/scg/edg/ Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous General #35

>>153584576

When you're far enough out in the middle of nowhere chances are pretty good the only steady stream of resources are the kind you strip off of dead space ships.

Xth for desert planet with giant sandworms that force you to walk over scrap and hardground only

>>153586702
like that level in jedi academy

>>153586789
Ah good times. God tier game

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>>153586268
>The Fuel Rats already exist. To be fair I can see how deep-space rescue missions would be fun if you like exploration and want more organic objectives.
I'd get a Starfarer if refueling/repairing stranded ships were a thing. Would get to see the insides of a larger variety of ships than if I was just doing combat or trade related stuff. On the other hand, would depend on how expensive it'd be to replace the ship.

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How powerful would man portable railgun be? S1 equivalent or less?

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Best ship.

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So is it worth it to download SC now?
I haven't been following it too closely but it looks like there's progression and stuff to do now.

>>153587763
>So is it worth it to download SC now?
Nah the netcode is still a shit for now

Check back l8r m8r

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>>153586574

>>153587851
Cool. Also I remember they had said something about Avenger reworking I think, is that still a thing or am I crazy?

>that new ATV
>that guy with the heavy Russian accent whose name is Gary Sanchez
You can't make this shit up

>>153587940
>the life of a 2013 grounded spaceman

And using the ramp to climb onto the Freelancer's roof

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>With that mandate were the seeds lain for the purging of female descendants from the Duval line forever. Indeed, genetic measures began only two decades later to ensure that no female would be heir to the empire.
What went wrong?

>>153588359
Tranny rights, Aisling Duval was born male.

>>153587437
ground vehicles are gonna be hell to balance if they actually let us run close support
>>153588096
to be honest I expect most of the ships to be reworked

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>Find the ED thread on RSI forums
>Even there are dads are complaining that player killers need to be banned

Jesus fucking christ

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>it's a nobody knows where to post episodic content installment

>>153589136
link b0ss

>>153589319
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/305822/katamari-mega-thread-elite-dangerous/p1433

>>153589192
the other thread was on page 8 or 9 last I checked. Who the fuck revived it?

>>153587437
I'm no expert but I think I've got a decent understanding of the physics involved, and my guess would be less powerful than conventional weapons of similar size.
Railguns require a huge power source and a long track.
Superconductors would make them a bit better by increasing the current, but you'd need an Iron Man style fusion generator to power the thing and you still probably couldn't use an explosive shell (pretty much everything goes off with that kind of G-force, which is why the Navy uses solid metal projectiles), meaning you've got the armor piercing part but not the important part wherre the shell then explodes inside. You're not gonna get the Navy's mach 5 muzzle velocities with a two-foot rail, so rocket launchers would likely pack more of a punch at that scale.

>>153589136
tbqhwyf the game would be much better off if 90% of people in SDC were perma banned from Open.

>>153589410
some namefag keeps bumping it

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What's everybody's setup looking like?

>>153588359
Arissa was born out of an affair and her claim only became legitimate when her mother married the Emperor later, and Aisling's father was declared unfit for the throne, so his line was discredited until Hengist died without a clear heir.

>>153589136
It's probably still better than the SC thread on the FDev forums.

>>153589541
I did laugh when half the SDC members were banned from E:D after someone complained, the posts on the cheatengine forum was hillarious. They were whining about not using cheats in open or "I haven't cheated in a whole week, this is unfair!". Apparently Fdev has been cracking down on them.

>>153589541
If they don't cheat, they don't deserve a fucking banning. Killing people that think they're in a safe space isn't cheating.

>>153589778
Oh, the one that keeps getting locked constantly because all people do is meme post about scams and derek smart?

>>153590075
>If they don't cheat, they don't deserve a fucking banning.
But they did.

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holy fucking shit

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>>153589727
>that belly

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Goddamn, the vision is real.

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>>153590181
>implying you'll get a good roll with that MEF
>implying anyone has ever gotten a good roll on G5 OCed MCs no matter how many rolls they do
>implying zirconium even exists on the planets it says it does
>implying I'm not sliding a glock between my teeth as we speak

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These are lovely paint jobs but who would pay 5$ for a paint job on a Type-6, it's a temporary thing players buy before they can buy an Asp.

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>>153590557
>implying each and every one of those won't go towards a favor'd incendiary across my fer de lance and cutter, literally just shitting out a full arsenal of experimental weapons by bringing the materials to immediately increase your rank back up to five with each expenditure and doing it six or seven times on the spot

one more drop and i'm done. one more drop and there's room for rerolls and even consideration of lasers if i could get a decent PD on the cutter from the dweller.

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Re...taliayyy...?

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>>153590239
all the more to love

>>153590313
will pirates/scavengers be able to move those huge cargo containers? The little boxes you can lift, sure, but didn't they say the big ones could be autoplaced? The audio fucked up in the video and I couldn't tell

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>>153589192
>tfw no sexbots

You think Chris would really put them in the game, jokes aside?

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BARFK BARFK

>>153590887
so do we know how big a the cargo units are?

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>>153590874
Yeah I'm just fucking with you. Good luck anon, hope you get rolls worth spending favour on.

I eventually got four G5 MCs with 90%+ damage rolls which I favoured for experimental effects but I'm still salty at my six hour zirconium hunt.

2.7% my ass, Braben.

>>153590887
Is it weird this gives me a boner? Hauling cargo is going to be radical.

>>153591289
generic slaves maybe

>>153591302
meters

>>153591292
I would love to have like a pet lizard parrot or monkey ferret.

>>153591302
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14684-Hull-B

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>>153591302
from what we know 1 unit is the small case picked up from the 3.0 demo. satrfarer- Cargo Capacity 3321

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>>153591292
rip Paddington, you will never be forgotten

>>153591665
they really should update all the ships with how much cargo space they have.

maybe they'll do that when 3.0 comes out.
but probably not.

>>153591302
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/14677-Cargo-Interaction

>>153591665
I was a bit surprised from the video. It looks like you can really pack things in there. So does it come down to space or weight? Because I could technically start stuffing those little square crates from the 3.0 demo into bunks and showers and stuff right? I could just stack them around my bedroom.

>>153591824
pretty much. the only wiegh issue your going to run in to is it will add the the ships weight/flight dynamics.

>>153591824
The idea is that the moment you start flying hard anything that isn't mag-locked to defined cargo areas is going to start bouncing around and decapitating people.

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>>153591289
Pleasure Borgs were an illegal commodity in Erins game, Privateer 2, so maybe.

>The world's oldest profession has transmogrified itself into one of the world's most lucrative industries. A mid-range pleasure borg can provide any service available from a traditional professional, and when it's not working it can be turned off, disassembled and kept in a convenient, semi-portable carton - incidental upkeep is significantly less, by comparison.

>>153591995
>>153592029
I just remembered smuggling will be a thing too so secret smuggling compartments.

I think I might play a smuggler.

>>153592157
>literally objectifying women

>>153591353
> six hour zirconium hunt
Just find a barnacle that drops zirconium.

>>153592579
I mean, technically they are objects. And it doesn't hurt anyone because they aren't sentient right?

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>>153592579
I know, it's great.

>>153592579
>literally womanifyng objects

>>153592157
Now I'm wondering if they were illegal because straw feminists cried about science disenfranchising their vaginas or if it's because the government realized birth rates would plummet when every man had access to low-maintenance sex machines.

>>153592970
>womanly literafying objects

>>153591079
>>153591665
Have we seen cloth physics anywhere before? I don't remember

>>153593425
Probably illegal for the same reason Weed is illegal today, it's a great way for a government to make money.

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I for one and glad Chris has an autism boner for IMMERSIVE! HOLISTIC! LIVING UNIVERSE!'s.

I don't mean to fanboy but dammit, just when I think it's impossible they show off some crazy shit.

What's the fastest way to make monies with an Asp Explorer since Sothis/Ceos is patched out

>>153593998
It was patched out?

>>153594075
no
I literally just finished a Sothis run

>>153593674
But the U.S. doesn't make any money by making it illegal, the private prisons do. The government itself is losing a ton of potential revenue for keeping it from being legalized and regulated.

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>>153594196
I'm talking about the sweet, sweet bribe money from the private prison lobbyists.

>>153594554
Thats not the government, its individuals working for the government.

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>>153594151
I'm on a sothis/ceos run right now.

Does anyone want modular terminals? I have 3 extras.

>>153592679
Nope, apparently it makes you consider real women even more as objects... for some reason.

Basically, image of sexy lady that a real woman isn't somehow profiting from = sexist.

>>153594196
The war on drugs is hugely profitable for state and local government, as well as law enforcement.

>>153594196
don't forget kickbacks from the tobacco, textile and drug companies.

Should FDEV remove rebuy from the game? Every time you die you'll lose everything and start in a free Sidewinder.

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>>153594196
Can't argue with a 100% conviction rate

>>153595096
The addition of a hardcore mode? Sure.

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>>153593425

>>153594907
I figured out why women would be against sexbots.

You might be thinking, sexbots. Everyone can benefit from that. They'd make male and female ones. But men can get everything they need out of one and still be self sufficient. Women can't have the male sexbot work for them and make money. Also they can't arbitrarily hurt their feelings and break their hearts on a sadistic whim.

Fucking bitch. I loved you and you did that to me fufhdhdfhgdf!!11!!

>>153594907

>image of sexy lady that a real woman isn't somehow profiting from = sexist.

Anon pls. Real life posters and images of women get shit on consistently even though the women involved makes profit from them

Basically, image of a sexy lady = sexist (when it suits me)

also

SPACE LEGS WHEN

>>153595096
Should RSI remove insurance from the game? Every time you die you'll lose everything and start in a free Aurora.

>>153595214
wtf we told you about 3dpd

>>153594728
>bio-waste
>al-saud city
why yes I do

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>>153595389
I learned my lesson the hard way. Nothing can break my heart now that it's cold and dead.

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>>153595214

>>153595096
There's a thread on the gulag with that title. Total shitstorm.

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>>153595214
>I loved you and you did that to me
I didn't come here to remember
>it will never be like before shit went downhill

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>>153595570
Give your heart to a dude. Fucking women is for fags.

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>>153595214
>>153595720
you will never regain your mana

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>>153591289
If he does, even if it's just descriptions of the cargo, I hope the sex bots come in every shape imaginable. I want to secret societies like Eyes Wide Shut that partake in the most obscene acts imaginable, made legal because of programmable robots that come in every type of shape imaginable.

Even if it's just fluff, it would make the world just that much deeper.

>>153595894
I never understand the ancient alien people.

Why in the fuck would advanced space faring aliens help us build stone statues and triangle buildings instead of advanced super structures?

If modern humans were around back then then what was stopping them from teaching us enough to know to be up to the point we are today five thousand years ago?

>>153595987
He said before that we could open cargo crates and see what's inside, or take it out. Unless the inside of the sexbot crates is just a cardboard refrigerator box.

https://youtu.be/E99QhmFe_cE

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Goddamn I wanted to discuss sexy robutts in muh space games not hurt normie feelings.

>>153596098
I guess they're just dicks who can't resist fucking with people

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>>153596339
Waifufagging is just as bad as normie feels. Post spaceships.

>>153596339
>hurt
>normie
you don't know what a normie is do you

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>>153596461

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>>153596461
The real issue is that there are people that don't own a Freelancer.

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>>153595987
>fly near dormant 890 jump
>attach probe to check if anyone's home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoZJdil0_HI
>get the fuck out of there

>>153592029
>Freelancer
>Lock doors to both cargo bays
>Get to destination
>Cargo smoothie pours out rear door

>>153596682

Stole a Freelancer yesterday, it is absolutely gorgeous. If the Cutlass is done to that standard then I will definitely be happy.

>>153590887
>all that fucking cargo

The Starfarer really is Serenity isn't it

How do we remake No Man's Sky properly?

>>153596849
I can't wait to see the Freelancer Max when they're done reworking it. Dat ass is killing me.

>>153597028
To be honest the cargo hold on the Starfarer looks almost just like the Serenitys. It's even a pretty big ship around the same size.

And you can replace those fuel tanks for even more cargo space.

>>153597068
I don't get the weird bait of bringing this game up
Is it a /v/ thing?

>>153597028
What is it with people and comparing ships to that meme series?

No, its not the fucking Serenity

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>>153590647
Might be nice bundled with Asp skins?

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>>153596682
Why go for a tug and barge when you can own the container ship?

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>>153597167
it's a space game

>>153597068
Wait for Braben's Vision to be complete.

Which do you guys think will happen first, SC releasing or ED actually being feature complete?

>>153597206
Why does it trigger assholes so easily?

It's almost like kids think it's cool to get angry over it or something. Like they think it makes them look cool on an anonymous Chinese girl cartoon forum.

>>153597226
Well he could want to take the jump shortcuts

>>153597303
not really lol

>>153597068 It's been done.

>>153597226
I can appreciate the raw hauling ability but

>exposed cargo

It’s like they want spacenigs to grab your spacebananas right off the back of your ship.

>>153595479
>why yes I do
If you're serious about the modular terminals, I can drop them off at any system you like. Got a suicide hauler I use for one-shot missions.

>>153596645
Not sure why they said Anvil Terrapin during the ATV today but showed off what looked to be the Aegis Terrapin

>>153597316
ed will be feature complete sometime around the launch of star citizen 3

>>153597334
The show got popular
Popular must be bad :^)

>>153597492
Because originally (when it was supposed to be a starter ship) it was made by Aegis. At some point it switched manufacturers.

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>>153597068
give it a fucking functional map at least
>>153597226
why go for a container ship when you can go for this
>>153597492
remember back when people were confused if the Idris is a RSI or Aegis ship

>>153597551
I always thought it was pretty comfy. Did it get far too much undue praise? Sure. But it wasn't bad.

Starting to think these spergs might be some kind of hipster.

>>153597632
>Sperging
>Triggered

Please, use more buzzwords to deflect off someone calling out a stupid, overplayed comparison that doesn't fit.

>>153597551
The show got cancelled.
Cancelled must be good ;^}

Nah I'm fucking with you I liked it.

>>153597148
>>153597028
I'm not a fan of the large rear fuel tanks, or that it's a tanker ship. I don't want to be pigeon-holed into being a fuel rat. Unless there's an actual mission system for refueling ships for starfarer captains, I'd rather wait for a "starfarer - cargo" variant.

>>153597226
I get that in SC we're kinda just handwaving some of the big blocky ships just crusing through planetary atmospheres and gravity, but what the hell is a laden Hull D gonna do on a planet? That fucker ain't landing. Is it gonna detach the cargo and carpet bomb a location with shit?

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>>153597607
>>153597607

I saw this WIP and assumed it was a second version of the Terrapin aside from the revealed Anvil Terrapin. I guess pic related never existed or was just fan work?

>>153597895

The larger Hull series are not designed to enter atmosphere. They will have to dock with large stations which pass the cargo on to shuttles.

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>>153597772

>>153597895
A Hull D that is carrying cargo won't go into atmosphere

>>153597906
>v1
>work in progress
I wonder...

>>153597740
Your comment reminds me of Serenity. Really similar.

>>153597740
There's nothing wrong with having an opinion anon, I just think it's awfully weird how it only takes one small mention to draw out someone like you, flailing their arms and foaming at the mouth right away.

Take a chill pill.

>>153597836
Yeah, i'm not a fan of the whole fuel tanker thing either but I love the ship. Unless fuel is easier and more profitable than hauling cargo then I want the cargo variant.

>>153597906

That was the original plan when it was a small Aegis ship. It is now a slightly larger Anvil ship, but still has the same name and roughly the same idea of being defensive.

>>153598096
>YOU ARE SILLY: the post

Nothing "foaming at the mouth" about it, friend.

Just pointing out that the comparison is stupid. Also an opinion. (though an objectively more correct one)

>>153598107
I'm gonna miss the Aegis Asp that never was.

>>153597148
Same sort of size, shape, cargo hold in exactly the same place that looks the same with the walkways above it, I even think the dining era is a similar part, yeah they are really similar. Just pants on head retarded it doesn't have cabins with all that ridiculous amount of space.

>>153597206
It's a popular space series, obviously one of the inspirations for some of the game, the devs have confirmed, etc. I'm not a big fan of it but I really like the ship itself.

Really, the whole appeal of SC for many people is reliving their favourite sci fi shows/films etc in a game form for the first time.

>>153597895
The Hull C is the largest one that lands. D sells to stations, all big planets will have ones like Port Olisar or a Corvalex Shipping Hub, etc, in a close orbit. Or smaller ships can transport the cargo down to the surface.

>>153598464

I imagine that they will do Aegis (and Drake, and other) starter ships at some point.

>>153598096
The two big thing for the starfarer is that it's a scripted mission set ship so it'll get a lot of attention in interior detailing and that it was shown off during that preview so people fell in love with it.

It's 4 times the size of a Constellation and 12 times that of a Freelancer. Big ship but I'd rather have a Reclaimer if I'm going to end up in a big ship.

>>153598745
Avenger is the Aegis starter.

>tfw no new outlands ship

>>153597836
There will be a mission system for that, yeah.

Don't forget how fucking essential fuel is, even right now ships run out of it pretty quickly, Starfarers will constantly be in work.

I completely agree though, I'd rather just have all that area replaced with the fuel tanks changeable for more internal storage, ala the Freelancer.

>>153598978

I want CNOU medium fighter that is set up like a militia patrol/scout ship. Buccaneer is kind of close but not having an interior would suck for the really long range stuff.

>>153598867
For me I need a ship to meet at least a few criteria.

It has to haul cargo, it has to be big, roomy and comfy inside so I can live in it for long periods, and it has to give me the right scifi space vibe which, I guess I would describe as similar to the Millennium Falcon or (god forgive me) the Serenity.

>>153597906
Interdasting. It looks like the Narcissus (the escape shuttle from the first Alien movie).

>>153598978
>>153599247

Ben mentioned on Ban's days with batgirl a few episodes ago that we should expect "Consolated Outlands to expand into the market with a ship to rival the constellation".

What can we expect? A lighter, faster, but more delicate Constellation with more guns but less cargo and armour? The same comparison between the Mustang Alpha and the Aurora.

>20-man servers
Is star citizen just a glorified early access survival game?
Hell even rust can manage up to several hundred.

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>>153597906
>>153599514
Huh, it really does.

>>153599570
>"Consolated Outlands to expand into the market with a ship to rival the constellation".

Hnnng, that's exactly the size of ship we need more of imo, the Millennium Falcon sweetspot.

>>153599640
Star Citizen is aiming for 100 with the new netcode on a universely connected instance based server, as you move from one instance to the next you seamlessly transition.

100 is a realistic number right now, 1,000 player servers is unrealistic but not impossible.

>>153599640
>Is star citizen just a glorified early access survival game?
Well yeah, that's why I'm not touching it until release.

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Anyone notice that the boxes in the 2nd cargo area in the freelancer seem too big for the doors?

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>>153599290
Sounds like the Carrack or Constellation would be more for you, though the Carrack has the same problem as the Starfarer of not being able to be easily manned by a single person.

>>153599570
If CNOU decided to make a ship with a Beta's interior design but the size of the Constellation they would make fuckin' BANK.

>>153599820
>implying it will ever get released

>>153599640
>>153599820
>>153599893
But you're still going to come in here and shitpost, yeah? Genius.

>>153599154
>There will be a mission system for that, yeah.
I'm wondering how much work there'll be put into that, just move to target ship, refuel, recieve money, get next mission to do the same?

While fuel is important I'm not seeing Starfarers doing well in risky systems where fuel is rare, considering the whole "get the Starfarer's black box because they went into a dangerous system" thing. And in safe systems you can just dock to get fuel.

>>153599290
Constellation feels like a Millennium falcon to me with it's big open front window and everything being on the same floor.

>>153600048
I was merely pretending

>>153599867
They're meant to go through the airlock above, sonny

Even if this isn't the case it's not a issue because ingame you simply wouldn't be able to put the cargo there.

>>153600048
1. This is a merged general.
2. Doesn't mean I can't keep up with news.

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>>153591292
>yfw you make a business of hunting down rare, exotic and protected species from across the galaxy to sell to wealthy clients as pets.

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Do you think breaking crates open with live animals could make a ship have an infestation? Like tribbles from Star Trek or those frog things from KotOR.

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I'm stranded in space with no fuel wat do

>>153601159
Self destruct. Right panel, functions, very bottom.

Do not give the fuel rats the satisfaction of saving you.

>Ursa Rover has proper working suspension
>ship landing gear does not

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>153601123
Goddamn Gizka.

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>>153601123
There has to be spook monsters at least

>>153601469
I want to sneak into people's ships on landing pads, and infest them with vermin. I just want to spend my entire time performing minor acts of space dickery.

>>153601938
>small lizard rats that chew components
>you don't realize why systems are shutting down unless you spot them

>>153601123
>Do you think breaking crates open with live animals could make a ship have an infestation? Like tribbles from Star Trek or those frog things from KotOR.
Gizka?

>you will never have a monmusu crew
Suffering

>>153601938
>filling admirals ship with a hundred tiny creatures that constantly squeek

watching atv 2.32 again.
The Caterpillar is huge af.

How much did they sell it for?

>>153602498
$245. Will most likely be $360ish (+50%) when flight ready

>>153601159
You can call the fuel rats, nobody will know.

>>153602761
He will know.

>>153603035
Will Starfarer owners be hated in SC?

>>153590075
Cheating is pretty much the SDC culture so those who don't are probably rare

>>153603104
Nah, there's nothing inherently wrong with calling for fuel, it's the way dads do it, with RPing and acting like they're such amazing people for doing it for free, when the only reason they do it for free is because money can't change hands between players, which is only because the same dads that rat whine that having such a feature would lead to RMT and Chinese goldsellers.

In SC it'll just be a profession like any other.

>>153603104
Why would they be?

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>>153590169
>>153603234

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>>153603535
>it's the way dads do it, with RPing and acting like they're such amazing people for doing it for free, when the only reason they do it for free is because money can't change hands between players, which is only because the same dads that rat whine that having such a feature would lead to RMT and Chinese goldsellers.
I disagree with literally everything you've said. Since I'm a fuel rat, I've done hundreds of rescues, I've never RP'ed, I do it because I've done everything else and got a billion+ in the bank and at this point I like meeting other players, I've lobbied for markets and ways to exchange hands in the forums, I'm the one who keeps saying in these threads that E:D needs player marketplaces while you keep complaining about these "dads", the source of all your evils.

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Just consider this a bullshit fake post and discuss it 100% hypothetically and scroll down to the tl;dr.

So a few months back (not going to say how long) I got to have a tour of Manchester studio, and got to see a early sketch by Ryan Church (yes, he's doing it) of a couple variations of then-inprogress Polaris and we (people in the tour group) got to see a few of the designs they were working with.

What's this got to do with pic related? It's a quick sketch I did from memory about a week after, of the design he said they were "going forward with from here". Sorry for the shitty MS paint drawing but all I really saw was the general profile drawn among a bunch of rejected profiles. I think it's mooostly accurate, the turrets were a bit smaller (but different sizes, similar shape) and I couldn't (and still can't) remember for the life of me if it had a set of two engine pods at the back or three. Also the bridge was more blocky, but I had dificulty getting it across while keeping the general profile of it. It was sketched as long-glass planes, longer than the Constellation's glass and more like that of the Javelin, it might be dificult to tell but the glass went all the way up to the top of the front of the ship and stopped before the "dip" area on the top near the front.

What do you think of the general profile and turret layout?

>>153603720
Themselves, Cheatengine forums

>>153603557
Because fuel dads.

https://twitter.com/emomobile/status/771473799027920896

Is this a forum dad

>>153604680

He's clearly breaking UEE child labour laws there.

Children aren't allowed to leave their protective education sacks until they reach eighteen years of age.

>>153604416
If you're not doing it for payment, you're doing it for RP reasons.

Sorry, theres no middle ground on this.

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>>153604680
Somehow it's worse than the furries and pap mask roleplayer
I've never seen anything like it

>>153605006
>Worse than furries
>Nuclear family with a shared interest that aren't obese fucks

Yeah, no

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>>153604416
>using myself and only myself as a benchmark for fuel rats, I have determined that you are 100% wrong
>even though my benchmark does not take into account literally every other fuel rat, the majority of whom are dads that RP, act sanctimonious, and constantly call for people who pop them to be banned from open play

Congratulations, you're not a dad, you're a moron.

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>>153604680
Horrible

>>153604941
What RP reasons do you think I play videogames for?

Also, what are you RPing right now?

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>>153599867
Are we going to have to lash and secure the cargo? Work in logistics and wondering how far Chris' fidelity autism goes.

>>153605069
I've seen so many furries it doesn't phase me anymore though
The family looking normal otherwise makes it so fucking weird, like a family holding dakimakuras

>>153604941
Bullshit. Nobody explores for the shitty payout it gives, they just find enjoyment in things that don't involve watching numbers go up. Hell once in a while I like to just take an SRV down and cruise around for the fun of it. Not for money, not for RP, just because I like the feel of going full throttle in low G.

>>153605146
I assume the maglocks are as simple as flipping a switch.
>Pirates board your freelancer
>Disable maglock
>Start pulling a couple high G maneuvers

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>>153605146
Just magic magnet zones

>>153596728

I hope some cool org does stuff like this. Takes a ship out into the middle of fuck nowhere, but leaves enough hints that a handful of people can find their way out.

The Jump has a massive fighter escort, but they let you in, assuming anyone with the location has permission. And whenever anyone boards the station, the players on board pull some Eyes Wide Shut shit, not acknowledging the interlopers, and just trying to freak them the fuck out.

And if you try to tell anyone about it, everyone involved denies any accountability, but every now and then you find yourself running from a fighter or two that seem interested in you for no reason.

>>153605089
Can other people see these dads or do they only appear to you? Because you're not describing what I've witnessed in the past year. Are you able to understand that I actually interact with other fuel rats and therefore your "lel majority of fuel rats did 9/11" sounds completely retarded?

>>153591665
>>153591079
That Mad Max planet made me moist. I honestly never knew I wanted to explore a sand planet full of starship wrecks until that footage

>>153605475
Well there will be 'upper class' elites hanging out in Jumps and Phoenixes

But it will be streamer girls and youtubers being catered to by their fans

So not really that

>>153605738

Why can't the people with taste become the rich fucks?

If we're going to have an untouchable overclass, can't they at least be cool and inscrutable and mysterious? I don't just want rich bydlo.

What's the difference between an exploration ship and a combat ship and which one is the cheapest

>>153605392
>>153605301
Thank fuck.

>>153605894
Might wanna specify a game there bud.

>>153605838
>I don't just want rich bydlo.

It's gonna be so satisfying to blast them the fuck away tho.

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>>153605526
>wildly exaggerating my statements because you're so defensive of fuel dads you actually feel victimized by my text

Why don't you just accept you're drank the carebear koolaid already and go touch dicks with your fuel rat butt buddies, instead of wasting your time posting somewhere you clearly hate?

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>>153590887

Did they say "cargo automatically populates in your ship?" Is that the first iteration? IIRC the design intent is that you need to play tetris with a carts and hover slats, not magic pop in. Doesn't look like the lock in mechanic works either. Seems odd when Grabby hands is supposed to be in to.

>>153606071
Shibas are literally the cutest dog.

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>>153605838
Lad eyes wide shut is a documentary

>>153606112
They said cargo handling for merchants would be quick and without tedium. Salvage and Pirated would get to interact more physically with cargo.

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>>153605617

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>>153606019

I would gladly join an org that is entirely dedicated to ganking youtube yachts.

We can call ourselves something vaguely communist, and pretend to be revolutionaries striking against bourgeois oppression.

>>153605970
eleet danjerusrus

I'd like to go around and pretend I'm star trek

I'd need (correct me if I'm wrong)
- big fuel tank
- bestest FSD
- lowest mass possible
- fuel scoop
- discovery scanner
- surface scanner
- fuel limpets so I can refuel stranded people

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>he's not an edgy pirate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbvzHcJi1l8&list=PLpdRrmiqbfWPV6OwkPtaX4cMWgszSIlnX&index=6

>>153606221
Makes sense. At the port you've got ground crews and robots to handle that garbage.

>>153606290
I really need to play that game.

>>153606290
I wonder how far will they go with weather system. I hope we eventually get hurricanes and storms and shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr6wdTPGFmI

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>>153606317
- an >asp

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>>153606429

>he's not an edgy space communist

https://youtu.be/rHomETco0MI?t=9

>>153606317
Diamondback-->Asp-->Anaconda

>>153606071
Same reason you don't accept being a meme shitposter, what makes you think I clearly hate it here? Been here since /edg/ started so I obviously enjoy something and unfortunately for you it turns out I love tearing into retards who buy into memes to try and fit in.

>>153606317
>fuel limpets so I can refuel stranded people
Is it just me or are fuel limpets a stupid sounding idea. It feels like a stand in cause there is no ship-to-ship docking.

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What utility should I put on a mining ship?

double shield booster or chaff/ecm stuff?

I plan on putting full cargo racks instead of shields

>>153606663
>he's not edgy space isis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3YmmPM5ohw

What's a good medium sized ship that can carry a good amount of cargo, but also has enough hard points to reasonably defend itself?

Right now I'm looking at the Federal Dropship or Assault ship since they, visually, look the most interesting.

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>>153606907
I've suggested docking clamp "weapons" that fit into hardpoints and allow ships to grab other ships with telescopic arms. Repair arms, refueling arms, and plain old grabbing arms to latch onto ships for rescue/piracy/salvage.

Repair drones "limpets" would make sense though.

And I would love ship to ship docking too.

>>153606907
Limpets are overall stupid outside of hatchbreakers.
Ftroop just had to use them because they have no systems in place capable of carrying out those functions.
>Tractor beam never
>Mining scanner never
>Refueling attachment never
>We have to put limpets in our cargo and get pulled out of frameshift because MUH BIG HAUL

>>153606559
DoK is really pretty and somehow the lonely feeling in Homeworld 1 and DoK is almost comfy.

>>153606638
Possible spoilers, but dat paint-stripping sandstorm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqMw8mq9Hvo

>>153607185
Assault ship has no cargo capacity if you fit if for combat.
Dropship can get good cargo capacity with a combat fit though. It's a reasonable all rounder, it's downsides are poor shields for its size and relatively average jump range.

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>>153606706
>appealing to seniority

That's really pathetic, Anon. I've been here since the beginning, too. And there's just as much proof of either of us being old fags, and it doesn't matter.

Either way, you're not tearing into anything, you're just getting more and more butthurt with each post. You're frothing at the mouth over an inane post about fuel dads being obnoxious, and you've done far more than I ever could to prove that post right. Only a dad would get this mad over nothing. Just accept it and move on.

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I think missiles need to be massively overhauled.

One idea being that you could replace a weapon hardpoint with a laser designator, allowing you to have SACLOS missiles that had great accuracy, if you keep tracking the target within a narrow cone.

>>153607185
Ideally the Python, arguably Clipper.
At lower price points: Cobra, Asp, FAS/FDS all do it reasonably well for the cost.

>>153607523
Clipper aint medium.

>>153607185
> What's a good medium sized ship that can carry a good amount of cargo, but also has enough hard points to reasonably defend itself?
Python, the largest medium ship there with a lot of firepower, unfortunately it's got a small FSD and is relatively slow in realspace.

Alternatives that land on medium pads:
Asp: +range +cargo -firepower -awful engine noise
Fer de lance: -range +firepower -cargo
Keelback: No.
DbX: +range -internalspace/cargo meh firepower

>>153607502
They should just give us dumb fires and make homing deliberately shit instead of pissing around and making them eventually shit

>>153607658
It's sad what happened to the keelback.
They try to make a militarized type 6 and just make something with no role that nobody wants to fly.

>>153607761
How about you take your hot opinions

and revaluate how shit they are

>>153607585
Neither is the Cobra, I apparently forgot about that part of the question halfway through reading it.

>>153607658
I'm using a Diamondback Explorer right now, and I like it well enough, I just wish it had more firepower to it, the Federal ships look like to have the same kind of set up as it, which is why I'm interested in it.

If I really had my way though, the Type-7 Transport would have all medium or a mix of medium and large hard points, because I fucking LOVE the look of that thing.

Why has nobody pointed out yet how fucking comfy that crashed improvised Starfarer home is
Holy shit

>>153607213
Admit it, you just want to get Outlaw Star in Elite somehow. not a bad thing

>>153607289
I think they work for cargo recovery as well. Prospector limpets make sense, but I think a two-stage thing where first you do quick ground radar scan (quick, in Elite, haha), and then if it looks good you hit it with a prospector limpet that does like a mini seismic scan or something and tells you exactly where to shoot for maximum minerals.

>>153607796
It was an awful feeling. "Oh, neat, this might be fun!" to "Oh no, God damn it fdev, why?" in record time.

>>153607836
Muh WW2 is going to be CIGs requirement, so missiles won't be allowed to .

Space flaming cliffs would be cool, but that ain't happening here

>>153607869
If you're using the Explorer for the jump range the Federal ships are not what you're looking for. Next step would be an ASP, after that there's not much with range, cargo and firepower other than the Anaconda.

>>153607458
Thanks for the projection.

>>153608058
>Muh WW2

Yeah, apart from all the shit that makes it nothing like WW2 already.

>>153607973
The crashed on a deserted planet and have to make your ship into a comfy home subgenre of the open world survival genre is criminally underrepresented in gaming.

>>153608179
They're sticking stubbornly to their manned turrets and guns even though the physics are all wrong

>>153608084
>If you're using the Explorer for the jump range
I am not. I'm mostly using it for the looks, storage, and that large hardpoint (upon which I have a multicannon that just seems to shred ships.

>>153607869
Asp is the only fedship-ish thing that has good jump range, but it doesn't have the firepower. Python has the firepower and cargo space but not the range and speed. Imp Clipper might be what you want since it has speed, cargo, firepower but not range and it's not a medium ship.

In short you need to pick 3 out of size, speed, range, cargo, and firepower. There's no ship that does all 5.

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I want to kiss mici!

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>>153608383

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>>153608383
Don't stick your dick in crazy.

>>153608271
The physics of turrets?

The fuck?

>>153608383
I'm sorry for all of the awful things that your tastes in women will get you in the future.

>>153607994
I do love outlaw star, but I also love the idea of giant robotic arms and can just imagine a diamondback explorer's huge weapon mount opening up and unfolding a 200 meter long telescopic arm. Or a clamp. or something. Just want to grab spaceships and I don't think elite has artificial gravity or tractor beams. Maybe somekind of grapple gun that shoots a magnetic harpoon?

>>153608527
>>153608635
Sometimes you just have to swim with sharks and safari with lions to get your rocks off

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>>153608358
I don't really care about speed or jump range that much, the more the better but I don't feel like I need to be able to skip past ten systems in a jump or anything. It's mostly all about looks. If the type-7 had good hardpoints I'd be all over that like a hoho on a ham sandwich.
Still, the Python looks alright, for a triangle. But I think I'll get a Dropship first. If I get the rank before I make enough for a Python, anyway.

Should I just bum around near Sol doing all the missions I can for everyone to get rank, or is there a tried and tested faster way?

>>153599879
I don't mind multi crew ships. Two, three, even four or five people crew? Sounds reasonably comfy.

>>153608567
Physics (of flight) are all wrong (for WW2 feel)

>>153609185
Make up your mind nigga.

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>>153607658
>Keelback: No.
>>153607796
>It's sad what happened to the keelback.
It should have great roll, and vertical thrust (making planetary landing easier) due to those extra thrusters. It should probably have Class 5 thrusters, then it's speed will be similar to the Type 6. The Asp Scout loses a thruster class due to it's shitty single centerline engine so the Keelback should gain one due to it's higher performance looking engines and side thrusters.

Also I don't think 2 medium hardpoints are worth the module bays it loses.

Keelback with C5 Thrusters
https://coriolis.io/outfit/keelback/0patfFal4des9f4--1717---03030144002h.Iw18UA==.Aw18UA==

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Mining when?

I'm still confused regarding what they were thinking when they designed the Prospector.

>>153609447
>I'm still confused regarding what they were thinking when they designed the Prospector.

That 'gamers' are anti-social as fuck?

>>153609447
They have slowly realized making a ship before the mechanic is stupid.

Mining will mainly be hand tools for quite a while

>>153599570
Before that, Ben first mentioned it being Freelancer-sized, but a Constellation competitor would make more sense to let CNOU become the rival of RSI; competing directly with the Aurora and the Connie.

Drake Interplanetary seems more like the competitor for MISC, and Aegis fights Anvil over military contracts.

>>153609668
By the looks of it, absolutely no-one can really compete with MISC when it comes to cargo.

I think it'd be nice to see a Crusader cargo hauler, considering that is one company players are naturally more invested in than any other, they should have more than just one ship.

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>>153609135
Type-7 is a large simply because it's 0.5 meters too tall to fit in medium pads.

Dropship is a solid choice, FAS is a gunship who's job is to be a blob of armor with guns in front. It won't have the greatest shields but it will have thousands of armor points.

Python is a great tramp freighter, lots of cargo space and weapons but it's very expensive to equip with all the shields+shield cells it needs if you want it to be a combatant. Also I think it's one of the nicer triangles, that's been stepped on to make it a pancake. It's profile is small for such a "large" ship.

I've been doing sothis-ceos missions for money and fed rank, draconis 17 is apparently the place to go for fed rank if you want to spend money to gain it through charity donations.

Speaking of triangles, what do you think of the vulture?

>>153609668
Didn't CIG say something about a competitor snatching the Aurora from RSI while they began to focus on the larger military ships for the UEE, or was that just that one dude with the blurry lego picture?

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Do we know which company built Retribution? Anvil?

>>153610053
All of them. It's a cooperative project iirc.

>>153610053
Looks kinda RSI to me

>>153610053
The Retribution is too huge to be a single company. RSI builds the Bengal so the Retribution has a lot of that design influence on the exterior, but the parts are a mish-mash of a lot of the Human manufacturing companies.

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>being an edgy pirate
>not a roguish smuggler and thief

>adventuring with a bunch of well meaning forum kids
>on the search for some alien artifact
>make em laugh, get in real good
>screw them over, steal the artifact and leave them stranded
>"Thanks a lot guys, couldn't have done it without you... oh someone should come along eventually. See you around!" and fly off to sell it

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>>153610053
Core Aerospace?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zfnAtb6MZQ

Dual Universe seems to be coming along pretty well.

>>153610354
It's just the same as building several bengals. Also the more companies you involve, the more people know about the apparently TOP SEKRET PROJECT

>>153610493
That and Hellion look tight tbqhf

>>153610572
Not necessarily. Compartmentalization of design tasks means that a company might be building a goddamn gargantuan shield generator and trucking is out to Saturn on military cargo haulers, but they won't know what it's for. So you get RSI and Anvil working on the rigging and legwork while a bunch of independent contractors work on the little bits and bobs that can be done without too much suspicion.

I mean, are you going to ask why the UEE military needs twenty-five capital-sized life support systems? Or turret-mount capable idris-sized mass drivers? They ask for that shit all the time, why would you start caring now?

>>153610493
I think it'd be better if they just made a separate ship editor with normal interface and allow you to upload your ship into the game. This seems too cumbersome to use, at least in this implementation.

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Listening to a Braben interview, where he mentions fighting in the atmosphere of a gas giant (don't believe his lies and all that, but you have to admit that, like Chris, he's so fucking enthusiastic about it all).

>Enemy hits your thrusters
>MODULE MALFUNCTION: THRUSTERS OFFLINE
>[DIRECT] [Carlos Spicyweiner] : Hahaha
>Hydrogen wind rushing past
>It's slowly getting darker
>The hull is creaking as the pressure builds
>It's pitch black outside now
>WARNING: TEMPERATURE CRITICAL
>WARNING: EXCEEDING CRUSH DEPTH
>Cracks begin to spread across the canopy
>Rebuy Screen

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>>153610356
I hope we get this emote for those moments.

>>153609608
Are you talking about the ship that needs a cargo ship to pick up after it and fighter to guard it at all times because CIG doesn't wants mining to be effective solo

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>>153611074
I need this. In both games.

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>>153608741

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>>153611123
This anon get's it. Sometimes being a smarmy wise ass is more fun that a straight up pirate.

>>153611074
Yeah I can see how they'll be able to put combat in gas giants once they got clouds working but what'd be the point? What would there be to fight for inside a gas giant.

>>153609963
>Speaking of triangles, what do you think of the vulture?

It's an armored hornet.

iirc it has armor hardness that rivals even large ships, so it takes reduced hull damage from small weapons and most mediums.

>>153610356
This anon gets it.

>>153612019
Resources, there could be a Bespin cloud city-like refinery of some unobtanium that pirates can raid. Or the opposite, a hidden pirate base that bounty hunters can attack.

>>153612019
I mean you could have aerostat stations in the atmosphere. Or a bounty hiding in there somewhere. Maybe some weird chemistry goes on deeper down and they extract it somehow.

>>153601938
Don't forget to finance that with marketable pets that hunt down those vermin. (slowly mind you, wouldn't want the vermin to completely disappear.

>>153612239
Was wondering because if jump range and cargo capacity are a secondary consideration and firepower is a priority, hard to beat a vulture.

I've never seen anyone use a vulture as a trader though but I have heard of a few crazy people who used vultures to explore.

>come into a signal area for a mission
>there's three pirates waiting for me
>have to leave or die
>signal is gone now.

Shit, will it ever show back up or am I SOL?

>>153613358
Scan the nav beacon again? Fire an advance discovery scanner? If a new signal doesn't show up then yes.

>>153605146
not very far considering a pilot can pull enough g's to black out while his crew walk around like nothing is fucking happening

>>153613781
You're a cruel person

>>153607502
they should just do this for turrets as well. a single sighting bubble could have turret fire control for a hemisphere of the ship. so long as your sighter keeps focused in on his target, telemetry would be relayed to the appropriate turrets

>>153613781
Knowing nothing about E:D, is this the way the ship really works, or is this just your VISION?

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>>153613781
>ENHANCED COOLING SYSTEM
>vents

It's kinda funny how both small and medium dedicated freighters are outclassed by the Asp X.

Freighters in ED are practically useless.

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>>153589541
>>153589858
>>153590075
>>153590169
>>153603234

Reminder that if you ignore a player the game will put you in a different instance, unless its not possible (ie being winged with someone who don't have them ignored)

Also Nyxi is a tranny, so if you get interdicted by him be sure to use male pronouns

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>>153610356
>get left for dead on some rock by some conman
>no ship, no relay in this system to pick up your suits SOS, no hope
>you're fucked
>almost out of suit air, some haggard prick in a junker Terrapin thought you were free salvage and picks up your signal and gives you a lift
>insurance company would be happy to replace your ship if you travel all the way back to Terra and wait the requisite-
>fuck that, that asshole is laughing his way to the bank with your payday right fucking now
>shove the rest of your pocket credits into the Terrapin pilots hands and ask him to help you track down your target
>contacts his reclusive buddy in a Herald at the edge of the system, he picked up relevant com chatter from your former ship at a nearby "independent" station
>you're on the trail, leaving behind a trail of witnesses, contacts, and accomplices: tricked, beaten, or intimidated at the end of your gun barrel
>track him down to Spider, about to cash in
>catch him in a port cantina, drinking away your money
>sit down at his table, pistol drawn, the fucker is just lounging back even with a gun in his face
>says he doesn't have your money, but promises to pay you later
>feel uneasy for some reason

>>153614306
This is nothing at all how ED works. This is just wishes of what Engineers would have been instead of the garbage it is.

>>153589727
fuck, i wish

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>>153589727

Dual Sticks>Hotas so much, best thing ever once you get used to it.

>>153614638
I'm sure everything will be fine

>>153614970
I wonder how much the thrustmaster HOTAS will cost. I already have a tf.16000000000 so I might get it so i can try dual stick and hotas. If it's not much more.

>>153608527
delete your soul

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I'm going to be disappointed if I don't see War Boy natives on this planet.

>>153615131
>The T.16000M FCS HOTAS will be available in September, at a suggested retail price of $129.99.

>>153614501

You need a lot of internals for general-purpose functionality. This immediately makes general-purpose ships great freighters, simply because of how cargo is handled in the game.

The one down side is that general-purpose ships are very expensive to buy and fit out compared to their specialized counterparts.

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>>153614638
You seem tense pal. Just groove to the music and relax.

>>153589727
I really want to make this, but i dont want to fuck up the built-in desk in my apartment

>>153615409
Will they sell the stick separately? I'm thinking about buying dual sticks.

>>153615773
they already sell the stick seperately

>>153614638
I hope we can sit at tables and pull our guns out under the table.

>>153615920
Isn't that a updated stick?

>>153616003
oh. yeah.

>>153615349
Shit like this shows the virtue of SC's approach to ship design. You can keep reusing these assets for new things, think how much they've got out of the thing already.