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Let the will of Molag Bal be denied!

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> It's a "tank keeps trying to aggro the last boss despite the boss being immune to taunts" pledge
> It's a "tank don't change to dps for the final fight" pledge
> It's a "dps ignores the dwemer spheres" pledge
> It's a "dps don't have any AoE damage for the Grubull fight" pledge
> It's a "4 hours or 15 minutes depending on how retarded people are" pledge
And an obligatory shitty healer on top of that. Sometimes I don't even know why I do dungeons with pugs

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>>153546241
>It's a "healer's actually a dps" random
>It's a "tank never uses taunt" random
Don't forget about those classics man.

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So will it be an unwritten rule that most duels till take place in Fighters guild halls?

>>153547518
Come on anon, they'll be in the streets. Fighter guild ones would be boring.

>>153547518
it won't, but it should be

>>153547518
I hope they won't allow duels within city limits

>>153547518
Where would even be the best place to duel? Atop ayyleid ruins?

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>>153548656
>Where would even be the best place to duel?
RIGHT HERE, BABY!!!

>>153548791
At least it's best faction.

What enchant do I want on my destro fire staff as magicka dd? Someone ingame said prismatic onslaught, since so many enemies in dungeons are undead or daedra. that shit expensive though. Right now I have absorb magicka, simply because that's what I had on hand and to help sustain a bit. Am I good or should I switch it out for something like fire?

>>153549362
You're good until you can make/buy an onslaught. Might wanna up the grade though.

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>>153547518

If only this pit didn't have NPCs, it would be perfect.

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You're pretty good.

(not me)

>>153547046
Yea but those are universals and are to be expected in most dungeons. The ones I listed are stuff I'm expecting today when veteran Darkshade Caverns are on the menu.

>>153551352
> Not holding the mini crossbow
Wasted opportunity

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ABSOLUTELY, COMPLETELY DEAD!

When this thread dies again at 240 posts, don't bother making a new one. ESO on /vg/ is DEAD. IT'S TIME TO LET IT GO!

Consider this a bump, I guess

how much is lich crown in divines? I got it from a dolmen, but it's blue and my MM got no data on it. Neither does anyone I've asked in game. Nor can I find any lich crowns for sale on guild stores. I heard lich divines pieces are pretty expensive though

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The Yin and Yang. Life and death. The dark and the bright. The sky and the earth.

The waifu and the anti-waifu.

>>153555019
For a blue cp160 lich crown I got sales data ranging from 5-15k with an average of 10k and most sales are around 10k. For a purple one I got a range of 20-25k with 20k as the average.

If you can, upgrade it to purple and try to sell for 20k.

>>153558170
you're kidding me. just 20k? I might as well fucking deconstruct it

>>153558483
Then just give it away to someone

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Is there an addon for UI that lets you keep the default look, but fuck around with it extensively? Currently I use Azurah, which is pretty good, as far making the layout, but it's lacking in individual frame customisation.

I used to use AUI and the LUI, but I feel the best when playing this setup. Plus both of those add unecessary shit I have no use for. AUI especially is very unstable for some reason, and I've had to reinstall it several times before.

I'd like to be able to adjust width and legth of default bars, as well as set different colours for them. Azurah CAN adjust size, but you lose resolution and you can only make them proportionally larger.

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>>153556125

They're both ugly

>>153556125
I DO hope that the old dunmer is your waifu. The other one friendszones you pretty hard.

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>>153562332
desu neither

>>153556125
Is that hair from the hair pack? I may have to spend some crowns. I have three characters I'd like to adjust.

>>153562332
You don't have a chance with the dunmer. She pets pussy pretty fierce

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>>153570108
>tfw you realise TG story was actually about lesbians and getting friendzoned

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So, I have a friend who chose bosmer, but they want to be a (NB) healer, ultimately.

How much are they shooting themselves in the foot for choosing a "non-optimal" race for such a thing? Aren't there soft caps in the game anyway, so they'll be almost as good as a High Elf anyway? Or is it a guaranteed reroll/race change?

>>153570586
What? Maybe the Dres' part but you never had a chance. Now Naryu, she's the dark elf to go for

>>153570785
>How much are they shooting themselves in the foot for choosing a "non-optimal" race
depends on how much they care about min/maxing and if they ever plan to do vet trials

>Aren't there soft caps in the game
not anymore

>is it a guaranteed reroll/race change?
again, depends on how much they care about this sort of thing. bosmer offers absolutely nothing for magicka, or for healers. it's a bad choice, but not one that would be impossible to play as. they will never be "the best" healer though.

>>153570785
Only if you're a min maxer

Scroll run if anyone's interested in what actually happens in Cyrodil, it's fun.

https://youtu.be/kCOf1QK7Cd8

>>153570785
They shoot themselves in the foot more by going healer (nb)

>>153571410

Couldn't they make up the lack of Magicka by sacrificing a bit of health? Not that that is a "solution" or anything but it could help the healing output side of it.

>>153572185
With what? Equilibrium?

>>153572379
Nah, because even I know that an Altmer doing the same thing would still be better, of course.

I'm saying making up that 10% extra magicka via attributes and enchants to magicka over health.

At least if you're at a health disadvantage, it can be assisted by just having a good tank. Also, in a way, having slightly less health could make Spell Absorbtion from The Lady champion tree proc more.

Again not trying to justify an inferior choice, just trying to suggest there are ways to cope with it.

>>153572940
Anon it's kind of expected to go with magicka enchants over health. There are certainly ways to cope with it. Just like in the previous thread there was the anon being a sorc in heavy armor. Who was thankfully a dps.

>>153572185
>make up the lack of Magicka by sacrificing a bit of health

and right here's the problem. yes. you could. but on a proper magicka race, you wouldn't need to sacrifice health. you could not only go full magicka enchants, but you'd get more out of them because of a +magicka passive

>>153572940

Well, the stamina regen of bosmer could help with dodge rolling and breaking CC.

Other than that, the benefits to bosmer as a spell caster end there.

>>153573690
This. That said, those are not too shabby things to have in a game that's a lot about movement.

>>153572940
>At least if you're at a health disadvantage, it can be assisted by just having a good tank

This isn't really the case. There's a certain threshold of health you need to meet for endgame content, in order to avoid getting 1shot constantly. It's roughly 17k for dps and heals in PvE. If you absolutely know what you're doing, if you know the mechanics of every boss by heart, if you know for sure that you can avoid lethal damage, you can make do with less than that. A good tank won't help you here, because no matter how good he is, certain boss mechanics will still hit you unless you yourself know how to avoid them.

So, if you have good environmental awareness >>153573690 got it right. Bosmer passives could benefit actively avoiding damage.

Even so, if you know all the shit mentioned above and have awareness, playing with magicka race is still going to be better in the end.

>>153570785
honestly it don't matter at all, they are going nb healer, they are fucked anyway.

>>153570785
If he absolutely wants to play bosmer, tell him to go with stamblade meta

if he absolutely wants to play magicka NB healer, tell him to pick either breton better for pvp, high elf better for general pve or dunmer better for PvE DD necropotence build

>>153574204
>>153574523


I'll probably just tell her if the character in question wants to even attempt vet trials, to pick up a race change and switch to dunmer, but if the character is just going to be healing/DPSing dungeons, it should be fine.

>>153575270
You should amend that to vet dungeons. She would probably struggle in normal trials

if I upgrade item quality, does it also upgrade enchant quality? I have this one item on gold, and it also has a gold enchant, but I don't recall putting one on it. Maybe I forgot.

>>153576027
Probably, for the enchant already on it.

>>153576027

I think that only applies to equipment drops. Crafted gear stays the same

Why do people love to go into ques as anything but what they actually are? Especially those that are above 200?

>18k Hp
>23k stam
>2.4k weapon damage
before food buffs
is this good for vets?

>>153577870
Yes, now let's hope you pay attention to aoes. Stam could probably use a touch more though.

>>153577870
You should aim to have at least 18k health with food buff so drop some HP and put it into stam

>>153578862
>with food buffs
So that's what? 13/14k hp?

I don't like the mechanics for the abilities that grant you passives while slotted. In my opinion, you should be granted the passive so long as it's on either of your weapon bars, not just the one you're currently using. Magelight is the biggest culprit of this as it's just about required on any magicka character and on both bars, effectively taking up two spell slots.

>>153576872
If it's in normal dungeons then it's probably due to how easy the dungeons are at that level.

>>153581973
I could understand that for not using say an sns or a resto staff if they have actual abilities that can make up for it. What I don't get is going in with absolutely no taunt or heal slotted so when the boss goes to someone that isn't the tank it can be salvaged or when there's been burst.
Obviously this would be more okay with a group of friends that can sustain themselves.

>>153582431
It's usually isn't a problem when you put together teams through zone. When you got 3dd and 1h who are geared and with a decent amount of CP, tanks are simply not needed at normal dungeons, because of how fast everything dies. Doing this shit through random queue can be a hit or miss, since you can be teamed up with lvl 12 players and then it won't work.

Hello guys I am not sure how long this post will be but it might turn into a rant, no promises or anything so you've been warned if you decide to read it.

You should never ever choose a race because you will benefit from the passives. Choose the race you actually find interesting and enjoyable for you both lore and appearence-wise. However if you don't give a damn about lore or looks this post isn't exactly for you. Racial passives are ignoreable basically. Even if you want to be the best at what you do, you can't play an "unoptimized" race for that build. 10% might sound good but remember that your stats will never see 50k as their base value. 10% is mostly irrelevant for anything below 100k. I chose 10% in my argument because it is more or less the modifier most races get with their passives. For the sake of being objective about this let me tell you that stat recovery passives impact your character more than base stat passives, damage passives too. Khajit are excluded because they are the only race that gets any sort of critical % bonus, which is still fairly irrelevant unless you go full crit set and if you have a full crit set the bonus you get at max rank of khajit crit bonus, which is 8% won't do you much good considering you will have a good crit base anyway.

This is all irrelevant until you hit max level and when you do you are dependent on gear and glyphs for stats, damage bonuses and crit modifier along with your mundus stone. Bonuses you get from your racials doesn't impact your end game stats a whole lot, stat wise you'll get something between 3000-4500 which is not a whole lot if you chose the race you did instead of the race you found interesting because of passives.

Basically if you want to do magicka templar bosmer or breton stamsorc, yeah go for it. Endgame impact on your character will be minimal.

>>153579595
Can't remember off the top of my head, I think it's around there

>>153583225
>You should never ever choose a race because you will benefit from the passives

stopped reading right there

>>153583225
The other guy's explanation was better

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>>153583225
>stat wise you'll get something between 3000-4500 which is not a whole

You should never choose any race but Altmer.

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I mean, at least this discourse is keeping the thread alive.

But seriously though, I seriously doubt missing 10% of a stat will disqualify you from doing veteren dungeons even. Vet Trials, maybe.

>>153583950
Hit or miss with vet dungeons. The reason why it's so valued, which you forgot in your post, is how deeps is calculated. A racial bonus to it will eek them out in damage in the end compared to one who isn't, unless they're like a tank.

>>153583225
so much about this post is just plain wrong. anon, you severely underestimate just how big of an impact racials are. if you don't care about min/maxing, then OF COURSE you shouldn't care about picking an optimal race. chances are you won't pick an optimal build either. if you do care, however, then the correct race is very important. take a DD for example. picking a redguard for stam build, means you will have much better sustain and more consistent damage output. picking a khajiit for a stam dd every good endgame stam build is a crit build means your damage will be boosted by several k at endgame. that's HUGE.

>>153583670
let's say you got 4500 bonus resource for either of your ability resources. 4500 means you can cast a skill two or if it is a low resource spell three times but that is your base stat. Stat recovery is more relevant than your base stat after you hit 25k with your stats. Let's say you have 40k magicka with gear and racial passivesd but 800-850 magicka recovery your base stat is irrelevant because you can't utilize your magicka properly because you aren't regenerating it fast enough to enjoy your bonus 4500k. By extension any bonus passive to your stats affect you in a very minimal way because stat recovery is way more relevant than raw stat bonuses.

>>153583950
>discourse
Leave

>>153584501
The size of your resource pool doesn't just contribute to how many abilities you can cast. It directly affects the damage of your abilities.

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>>153584668

But anon, the thread is barely staying afloat.

I agree with >>153583950
It's been my personal experience playing a NB healer that the base game vet dungeons are pretty easy in the end. You don't need min-maxed characters, you just need four people with normal builds who know the mechanics. I haven't done any DLC content and I hear the vICP and vWGT are harder so perhaps there it may make a difference though I suspect knowledge of the mechanics is the main requirement and dps/heal/tanking performance needs to be good but not maximal.

>>153584085
I can understand some people kicking non min-maxed players from their group simply because they can't accept the run lasting 20 minutes instead of 15min. But are the dps races in DLC dungeons so hard you'd need your 2 dds to be min-maxed without which you'd expect to barely manage to succeed?

>>153585515
I said hit or miss for a reason, for vet it's more about knowing what you're doing and that comes with experience. If you really wanna get into dps races then it's speedruns or trials where it begins to matter. Minmaxing for vet dungeons would just lessen the burden for those new to them. Slightly

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>>153585515
>It's been my personal experience playing a NB healer that the base game vet dungeons are pretty easy in the end. You don't need min-maxed characters, you just need four people with normal builds who know the mechanics.

Smartest thing said this debate.

>>153584201
I think you are over estimating racial passives, I personally think stat recovery bonuses more important like I stated in my above comment. Still the bonus you get to your damage are from your gear.

You gave redguard as an example so here we go.

Increases Stamina Recovery by 9%

Increases Max Stamina by 10%

Your melee attacks restore 3% of your Max Stamina.
This effect can occur once every 3 seconds

All those numbers look good but considering spell costs it is affecting you very little, sure it is better than having no racial passives supporting your build but is not that "much" better. I mean I can't really make one argument that would blanket the whole situation but go ahead and check your stats and your racial bonuses and google it, google will you percentages if you what is lmao percent of xx thousand and then compare the bonuses you get with your spell cost.

This will give you an idea about how stat bonuses from racials affect your sustainability. You are right about racial damage bonuses, something only altmer and dunmer get and it is around maximum 4% for altmer and 7% fire 3% other elementals for dunmer and what is that like for altmer if they hit 35k dps (which is what most people get at max) 1040 damage bonus. Which is pretty much the same number for dunmer too. Khajit and Bosmer get stealh damage bonuses and numbers will still be around 1-2k and that is not viable for non nightblades in boss fights and monster group clearing.

>tfw in AD and went with Imperial for a stam build because the other races' passives were so crappy it barely made a difference but then they got buffed
Sticking with my imperial anyway, fuck Mer filth

>>153586147
see >>153584791

>>153586648
Yeah I put 35k dps there as an overall example for dps to avoid doing a lot of math to get the pretty much same outcome.

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I think the takeaway here is if you're trying to build a serious build, don't use something farfetched like a race with stam passives for a magicka build.

I think we're all getting bored of this subject.

>>153587092
The takeaway is that one anon can't seem to grasp basic game mechanics and thinks that +10% resource passive equals only about +1k to dps

>>153586147
>>153584501
please make a recovery build and post your dps results so we can all have a good laugh

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>>153587294

Hope you're not implying that I'm that anon

>>153587092
The takeaway is that one anon thinks he knows the mechanics better than everyone else while blatantly forgetting something real important.

Oh look, it's the "are racials a big deal" discussion again.

Deltia settled this some time ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awwoMBb5ti4

They matter. Quite a bit.

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That's a terrible thumbnail

>>153588054
So are Deltia and Alcast the most informative channels?

>>153589237
Alcast is the one you want for the most effective builds. Deltia has some good insights in to the game, but he seems a bit out of touch as far as the newer content goes.

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All this talk ab out racial passives got me realizing that Nords fucking suck.

Yeah, sure, If you got all races in a room naked and punched them all until they died, nord would still be standing but other than that, they have nothing.

>>153590687
Yeah they do, outside of being a stamtank, and Orcs should've had berserk in some capacity. Especially since redguards got AR.

>>153583709
Thalmor worst race! Worst stealth archer

fuck, just realized it's not easy to get coooking ingredients anymore

>>153592073

spread your filthy lies elsewhere, hussie

>>153594195
You know it to be true, mer. Accept it.

orcs stink

>>153593667

For what level range of cooking?

>>153595562
>said no elves or dark elves ever

>>153595827
does it matter? it's all pretty much the same
but cp 160 ofc

>>153592073
Thalmor isn't a race, you brainless reachman.

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>>153596637
Not with that attitude.

>>153596637
I won't believe your lies mer

>>153593667
How is it not easy? You get 80 ingredients every day from each character that you have with three points in the provisioning hireling passive. Ingredients can be bought from guild stores at less then 6g each which allows you to make profit by cooking and vendoring 4g or 5g value green foods.

>>153599402
Just how much food does the provision hireling give you? Five things?

>>153582431
>What I don't get is going in with absolutely no taunt or heal slotted so when the boss goes to someone that isn't the tank it can be salvaged or when there's been burst.

Oh, I thought you just meant stuff like someone being a DW in medium armour and only using the Undaunted taunt. Yea what you say is complete and utter bullshit.

Do we have an ETA on when they're going to be done with their shenanigans on the PTS and allow us to try the One Tamriel on it? It's been offline for pretty much the whole day.

I rolled a breton sorc. I liked the whole blood magic theme and focused on dark magic and summoning and I have only really used resto staves. I played mostly solo or with a bro or two, sticking to the main story so I am not up on the dungeon group dynamics. I also went vamp cause I got a bite for free and it fit the personality that my character evolved. The problem I have now is that I'm back in school and its hard to find time to play with friends. I just hit 50 (champ 17) and I am interested in doing pledges.

>is breton vamp sorc healer a good combo?

or

>should I try to dps with summons and a resto staff?

and

>do I need to cure vamp to be viable in vet pledges?

>>153602742
If you're going dps you need to level destruct staff. It's like miles better than resto staff. Vamp sorc healer is fine, just use the resto staff and do cc to help. Stay away from fire tho

>>153587092
The takeaway is that's no reason to ever not play an Argonian
> Increased swimming speed, allowing you to PvP on a completely other level since other people simply can't follow you nor escape you
> 9% extra health for when someone does something retarded and you need extra survivability
> FREE tripots

>>153602924

I use the aoe cc in the dark magic tree (I forget the name) but I have the dps evolution. Think I should switch it for the slow?

>>153602742
Yes
Under absolutely no circumstances should you try to dps with summons and a resto staff
No

>>153602742
>>is breton vamp sorc healer a good combo?
decent

>>dps with summons and a resto staff?
what the fuck, anon

>>do I need to cure vamp to be viable in vet pledges?
no. fire damage might hurt in certain pledges if you're a klutz. but you can always just feed to get to stage 1 and suffer no penalties but also have no bonuses

>>153603091
Don't forget the extra magicka and healing done/received.
>>153603184
No shatter prison is fine. The other one that breaks if it's damage is tricky unless you got the dot version on. What you want if you're dpsing is to drop the pets in favor of liquid lightning or it's other form, and elemental blockade. Along with like pulsar or elemental ring. Oh and velocious curse.

>>153603492

I dont actually want to dps, I would prefer to be a healer. I was just asking because I would rather be a gimpy dps than be a gimpy healer.

>>153603963
You'd be a much better healer than since you wouldn't have to open up another tree. Still though, Clannfear/scamp's useless, twilight's only good as matriarch while being a healer. You could probably get fire rune from mage's to supplement your dark magic cc. Empowered ward might serve you better since it can buff allies' mag recovery. Still most everything you'll be using is from the resto staff. Mist form though that's a decent one along with bat ultimate.

>tfw got engine guardain helm with divines but it's heavy armour and not medium

>>153583225
>between 3000-4500 which is not a whole lot
go into any pug nSO raid or IC/SotH pledge group or even a half decent trading guild and tell them that you don't have any enchants on 4/5 pieces of your armour, like not even white or green enchant but nothing at all and see what response you get. Seriously you may as well take a fresh 160cp that still in mix and match blue quest gear.

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I have a magicka build, 3 blocks and I waste all my stam to block. Any tips to make this grind easier?

>>153606239
Know what to block. Also start blocking the knife throw blademasters do.

>>153604272

bat ult over absorption field as a healer?

I run
>mutagen
>blessing of restoration
>healing ward
>shatter prison
>crystal shards
>absorption field

when I play with my friends and it seems to work pretty good.

>I use clanfear as a meat shield when soloing
>I only really use sommoning for this and the passives
>all my bonus healing gear effects the clanfear heal
>that fucker never dies

I usually cc, let the purple lizard do its thing, drop more cc, heal, hit them with heavy attacks and crystal shards when proc'd.

>I use all my vamp skills when I solo because my dude is super goth

I use poison mist, I don't even remember the other choice.

>>153606691
Bat ult as your second ult or just one to use as if you wanna toss out off-dps. Absorption field's much better.

>>153606691
Sounds decent enough for a healer load out. You could try swapping out shards for twilight matriarch

What is a good healer load out? Just going off the staff and things shared between classes anyway?

I want to play around with a crit build. I have a lvl38 magDK at my disposal.
I'm thinking about going 5 willows and 3 twilights. I'm going to run magelight because I don't have inferno yet.

Is there anything I should do differently or anything else I should be doing?

>>153612469
Don't get involved with set builds until champ 100. You outpace gear too quickly unless you have a friend that can craft you stuff. If you feel like you absolutely must look into dw for crit sets with 2pc bonus.

>>153612597
I can craft Willows and Twilight's myself, so it's no more trouble than the Seducer-Magnus I'm running now.
This character actually has decent dual-wield skill since he used to be stam. Should I ditch the staff and go dw daggers for the passive?

>>153613848
The problem with crafted sets isn't if you can craft, it's that when you hit champ you really outpace what you can make pretty damn frequently unless you're on top of it.
You should have both to rely on the destruct staff skills. I'm not sure if daggers would help crit, though if it does then it wouldn't be a bad idea.

>>153611873
All healers utilize the restoration staff as their primary source of healing, outside of Templar which can rely on (almost) their own healing tree alone.

From my understanding of healers: Templars are burst healers, Nightblades are HoT healers, Dragonknight utilizes shields, and Sorc has CC and a healing pet that has an aoe heal.

>>153616245
So would that mean Nb's a proactive healer? Or is resto staff the proactive healing tree while the rest are moderate degrees of reactive?

>>153616971
The goal of NB is trying to keep all your hots going all at the same time. Refreshing Path, Funnel Health, Sap Essense, and Mutagen are your core spells, while Healing Ward and Blessing are your backup emergency heals.

Three of those abilities also do damage while healing your teammates, so you can provide a level of DPS while healing quite easily.

>>153617812
Interesting, well now I'm kind of glad I went with templar

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Shard of Aetherius fall and anoint us with your blessing!

Newfag to ESO.
How's leveling in this game? How long does it take to reach lategame?

>>153623909
Decent, it helps if you're something of a collector since clearing a zone nets you a bunch of experience usually. Reaching 160 after 50 isn't that hard, at first. It's like 1 ~90 is pretty fast but 100~160 takes a bit more time unless you're doing dungeons back to back. 531 takes a bit of time.

>>153617812
What's templar's goal as a healer? Just be proactive and toss 'em out when needed?

Is the game load times being weird for anyone else on consoles? Specifically ps4?

Wake up

Fix your shit servers Zeni

Guys what's a good time waster to do while maintenance is happening?

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>>153623909
Doesn't take long honestly, but I would take your time the first time around and take it all in. This game easily is the comfiest MMO that encourages exploration and actually has interesting NPCs to just talk to.

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>>153623739

Get your yellow elf ass out of here

>>153626460
Shards, shards everywhere.

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>The green pact of the bosmers prevent them from eating vegetation
>Bosmer builds only allow for vegitable food buffs.

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>>153637431
Deal with it.

>>153634807
time waster is when you play the game. during maintenance is your time to do something actually productive.

also, what maintenance? THERE ISN'T A MAINTENANCE TODAY, IS THERE?!

>>153638596
It was just for na

>>153623909
>How long does it take to reach lategame?
On your first character, it can take a while, especially if you actually explore, listen to quests and don't just rush everything, but it doesn't exactly take long. I do often see in game chat shit like "why is leveling so sloooow lol? xD"

It's fucking not. If you think ESO is slow you don't know what slow means.

>>153639053

It's not slow, but it's certainly laid back.

Why is it that people constantly forget about cutting sphere in darkshade for the pledges?

>>153600702
Always two stacks of 20 of two normal ingredients and occasionally a third stack of three of either frost mirriam or bervez juice. You get it every 12 hours so twice a day for a total of 80 ingredients.

>>153641097
Tunnel vision. And a lot of people don't know when or where they spawn from.

>>153641693
Goddamn that's nice, I guess it's time to level provisioning and pull twenty some points out of my ass to fill it out.

>>153641772
Really? Arrows are on the map as well as compass indicating where.

>>153641772
cutting sphere is the miniboss, I think you're confused

Best build to go an Argonian?

>>153644649
Healer. It's a toss up, though I think magblade was kind of the class for them with their kit.

>>153644649
Anything with magic

Anyone know where I can find presets for CBBE?

I really can't be fucked spending a significant amount of time making characters.

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>>153644689
>>153645725


Going templar, probably going to heal, maybe a bit of magic DPS (if that's a thing)

ty

>>153645815
>tfw no CBBE in ELDER SCROLLS ONLINE, ANON, ONLINE, YOU'RE IN THE WRONG THREAD

>>153645820
Yeah mag dps is a thing.

>>153646438

I think he meant magic dps with templars.

>>153646609
That doesn't nullify my confirmation.

So I checked my Cadwell's Almanac and there are multiple quests that have already been completed, even though I haven't even started the quests yet

Is this just a UI bug or glitch?

This is on an alt however, I've done silver on another character already

>>153646648
Disregard this post

SO I am a huge a fan of the eldar scrolls series and have considered trying this game out, but I heard some negative things about it. But since there are still people playing it, perhaps it is not so bad. Is there some kind of trial for this game? And if I start the game, do you have any tips for beginners?

People say that "oh you can do everything" but the matter of fact is that the game's balance is like a pyramide, at least in PvE dps, where you've a fuckton of shitty options and one single build that's above everyone else.

Tanks have variety. Healers have variety, even if the current meta have made templars so far above everyone else not because they're great healers but because they can give everyone stamina (unless you have the master's restoration staff but I've never ever seen anyone with it). But dps have bow + dw + one or two class skills.

>>153649119
Yeah pretty much, if you want more options for builds you have go pvp.

>>153649119
The thing about dealing damage is that the goal is to have the highest sustained damage possible. In PvE it's always going to be a single build above all else, as far as raw dps is concerned. You could have a million different weapon skills and a million different abilities, and in the end, one particular combination of them will result in the highest damage. That's simply how it is. But what most players seem to forget is that you don't actually need to do 50k dps. If you do just 20k, that's enough for 99% of the content in the game. And that can easily be achieved by a lot of different, more interesting builds.

If you choose to play the cookie cutter alcast builds, because they are "the best" they are the best as far as raw damage goes, then that's on you, really.

>>153650415
>20k dmg
I literally hit like 25k-30K dps on my fucking tank, it's jokes, one time this guy was telling me I was pulling 40k dps on his readout at one point.

>>153649089
Be prepared to use Addons, because Zenimax tried to copypaste Skyrim's UI onto a MMO, and it worked disastrously. When leveling, consider wearing one of each armor type (light, heavy, medium) so that you level all three at once, giving you more options to build for once you hit 50. You're going to be investing all of your points into Magicka, or into Stamina (unless you're a tank, then I have no clue).

>>153651213
>on his readout
what addon lets you see the dps of other people?

>>153651213
20k single target on a tank build self-buffed? Yea I call bullshit on this.

>>153651213
aoe doesn't count

>>153651498
>(unless you're a tank, then I have no clue).
It's the same, except you'll be having heavy armour with health enchantments on everything.

>>153649089

A lot of the "bad" things about this game are barely there anymore, this game just had a bad launch (and is still suffering from it, as evident by you saying you heard people say it was bad).

This game is way more "elder scrolls" than MMO than it was at launch, and the end stuff is pretty fun to do.

Can someone explain why gap closing into keeps is such a big deal and bannable offense?

It will most likely only be one person that does it and there will be multiple people on top of the walls seiging so can't people just get good and take that person out?

I'm just playing the devil's advocate, I honestly have little experience in PvP

>>153653759
because you aren't supposed to be able to do that, and ZoS considers that an exploit. yet they still fail to fix it.

Every single time I'm near a wall and I see some guy taking potshots I have to fight the urge to not jump at him. It's horrible.

>>153654317
But a perma ban is a little excessive? I can understand a temp ban but for something like this that can be countered by good play and has been in the game for a while is weird.

I also have another question since it seems you PvP a lot. At outposts at the top there is the grate thing you can stand on and drop oil or use projectiles and shit like that. I've gotten hit by templar's javelins and then fall through the grate to the ground. Is that an exploit?

I decided to make my first tank. Dragonknight, Imperial because I have imperial edition and none of my characters are imperial, so it's about fucking time to put it to use and then I realised I don't know shit about CP distribution for tanks. Or sets. Or anything. Help.

>>153651653
>>153651820
>brb let me set up these goalposts over here
Idk this is what people have told me, I never actually checked what I've got and I don't how you can see others dps. I'm a fucking tank I don't try to max out dps unless the group is good and can keep me alive and buffed up themselves. Hell even when that is I'll probably just take off vigour and igneous weapons then run another 2 dot, my real rotation is generating as much ult as possible while also keeping all the resist debuffs up. Light att > low slash > bash cancel does like 8k+ damage, that if nothing crits and when it's does crit I'll have trap + warhorn up while breath, claw and caltrop are hitting as well.

>>153654954
>I don't how you can see others dps
you can't, that's the thing. whoever "told" you that was either lying or an idiot

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>>153654954
> Assuming you're using the community standard for measuring dps when talking about how big your dps is somehow moving the goalpost
You're right about you not knowing.

>>153654954
anon, unless you show proof nobody will believe you do 40k on a tank

>inb4 I don't care if you believe me or notwell I don't

>>153651628
>what addon lets you see the dps of other people?

I believe they use Recount addon. I did give a try, really don't know how to set it, it's pretty confusing.

>>153656027
that doesn't answer my question, because Recount, and every other dps meter out there only shows your own stats, and not those of other group members

>>153654317
What's the skills used to do this? NB and DK can do this with their class skill and anyone can do it by using 2H, is that correct? What about DK pulling people out of the keep to the ground, is that bannable too?

>>153656973
You nailed it.

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There is absolutely nothing attractive about dunmer. They look malformed.

>>153646609
everything is dps

>>153656973
>>153663865

>using skills as intended is a bannable offense!

i just learned about this too, i've been gap closing npcs in pve solo content just to save myself the walk to the stairs lmao

>Twin Blade and Blunt
>Each sword increases the damage done by 1.5%

This passive applies to spell damage too?

>>153670898
yea

>>153671939
Thanks.

>>153669803
that's not the same. you can use it in PvE where you can. but you can't use it in PvP to jump up the walls of keeps. you aren't supposed to be able to do that, but due to a bug it's possible. so doing it is considered exploiting a bug, and that is what'll get you banned if you're reported

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PTS PATCH NOTES v2.6.0

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/288585/pts-patch-notes-v2-6-0

>>153674254
>All set drops from the overland are now bind-on-equip.
>All set drops from dungeons and Trials are bind-on-pickup.
>Dungeon bosses and mini bosses will now drop a set piece 100% of the time.
Brah.

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>>153674603

I am ready to make money on selling set pieces.

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>>153674254
>Craglorn
>The main story quests are now balanced for one player, and the remaining group content can be completed with as little as two players.

well I'll take it, I guess

how do we fix 2h dps so it's not absolutely crushed by dual wielding?

>>153674905

I'm not the biggest pro on the game since I'm still leveling, but I thought the idea was 2h was supposed to be AoE, and DW was single target, sans the abilities that do otherwise.

>>153674905
no idea because if you buff it then you'll break pvp.

>>153675063
that would be good design. of course ZoS made DW not only the best choice for single target, but also AoE.

>>153674254
That anon who wanted a house in one of the starting zone islands is going to buzzing.

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>Treasure Chests gained from defeating a Dark Anchor have a 100% chance to drop a ring or amulet set piece form the zone they are located in.

>Treasure chests found from a Treasure Map have a guaranteed chance to drop one random set piece that can drop in that zone.

>>153674254

>only 3 new motifs

I need moooore

>>153674821
>>153674603
Unless I'm reading this wrong, all dungeon and trials set are going to be BoP, so shit like ebon, warlock, salvation, etc are going to skyrocket like fucking mad because after patch you won't be able to buy ebon anymore unless you're in the group when it drops and the person want to sell it you...right?

That pretty fucking retard, trial farmers are going to be dead, like once everyone in your regular raid group has got the gear it literally going to be GG this legendary tier ebon ring which was worth like 150k+ gold last patch is ayy lmao 50 gold vendor trash.

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>>153676571
>tfw I've been destroying/not taking any maps I find except cyro because they were fucking useless

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>>153677871

>So have I

>>153677871
>>153677989
panic buy all them cheap ass currently worthless treasure map now while they are still like 50g on guild traders?

>>153675063
Dw has the superior aoe ability tho
but doesn't really matter since bow has the best

>>153678087
But you don't know what kind of set each zone will drop. And there is 30 new sets coming up.

>>153678647
your choice but I guarantee you'll make money, hell you don't even need to use the maps to find chests, just buy the maps now and then sell them on patch day.

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>Treasure maps found in any zone may now direct you to any overland zone.

Magic High Elf Templar with Resto Stuff and Dual Wielding... I want to be a hybrid of healer and dps for PvP. Yes or no?

>>153678087
>>153679000

shalom, rabbi. good advice

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>>153680178
>magicplar altmer with dw and resto
>healer with off dps or dps with off heals
Fine
>for pvp
There's your problem.

>>153680394
>>153679000


What are some good ones to look for? Or are ALL maps going to shoot up, even lowby ones?

>>153680178
swap DW for S&B get in 5/1/1 heavy with malubeth and you're good

>>153680726
All maps, though the Reaper's march, Bangkorai, and Rift ones will probably be higher than normal. Same with Orsinium and dlc areas.

>>153680394
You better hurry up because I'm currently buying up all Craglorn maps in EU PC.

>>153674254
These natch potes are fucking awesome PogChamp

>>153674254
Maybe they'll realize their mistake with the set drops and undo it but keep everything else.

>>153680403
why is PvP the problem?

>>153683002
Magic is garbage in it. You'd probably do well with what >>153680779 though.

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>You may now pick up Crafting Writs from Writ Boards outside your home alliance.
Note: Deliveries sites are still determined by your original alliance.

Whats the fucking point

>>153683918
Well you were dropping them off in wrothgar or crag anyway, unless for some reason you were doing lower tiers than that. The point is Rawl'kha is best writ place as you loop around without having to enter any buildings while picking up writs and doing them right there and it a circle which brings you right back to the wayshire to port to wroth or whatever, currently only AD can pick up writs in Rawl'kha but none of this matter since they killed off the writs last patch, so it not worth doing the highest tier of equipment based writs.

>>153684716
>it not worth doing the highest tier of equipment based writs.
Por Que?

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>>153683918
> 2h ultimate
> Does a fuckton of damage
> Ignores spell and physical resistance
> Takes the shit it ignores and gives it to you for 8 seconds
> Fucking refunds the ultimate you spent if you kill something with it

I don't know how to react to this. Like what the actual fuck. Meanwhile the destruction staff ultimate looks like utter shit.

can you have food and drink buffs at the same time or is still only one

>>153685334
Only one but they're introducing more fusion food where you get some parts as if they're food and some parts as if they're drinks. We already have some in the game but there will be more.

>>153685175
Blacksmithing, clothier and woodworking highest tier writs since last patch cost so much in material requirements that you make more money just selling the ingots/wood/cloth that you would of used.

>>153685312
Please tell me you're fucking joking?
GOD DAMN IT WROBEL! YOU STUPID FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT!

>>153685312
any links to ultimate info?

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>>153685312
there is no way this is real

please tell me this isn't real

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>>153685682
>>153685837

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/288639/official-discussion-thread-for-weapon-ultimates/p2

If we don't have Anti-mage from Dota 2 as the OP in the next general I'm gonna flip because Wrobel really fucking hate magicka.

>>153685312
I will legit quit ESO if this is the actual 2h ultimate

Hold on faggots I'm in the PTS server. I'm going to drop pictures from the monster mask and shit. Anyone want to see anything specific?

>>153686374
Just find some cool shit, there a 5pc set gives 8k+ health and 4%+ healing received.

also
>have 20mb/s download on steam
>most torrent give like 5mb+
>900kb/s on launcher
alright...

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I have no words, anons. No words.

Wrobel must be eliminated, or there will be no future for magicka.

>>153686148
FUCKING GOD DAMN IT WROBEL. STOP CATERING TO MINIGAMERS

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>tfw DW stamblade

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>>153687114
>>153687151
AHHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH

WTF IS THIS WROBEL!
WTF IS THIS!

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>>153687618
Whoa... so this... is the power... of Wrobel... being in charge of balancing

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This will take some time and I can't be bothered compiling them into a single picture.

>>153687940
Can ya show stormfist and iceheart?

>>153687114
>>153687618
So uh.. what reason is there to play magicka DD, again?

>>153687752
>>153687618
AHAHHHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCjN0AauyXY

The fucking 2h ult criting for almost 90k damage and then being entire cost is completely refunded, so you can spam it if the you kill the monster/player!

REALLY WROBEL, REALLY!

GG WROBEL G FUCKING G 60k Dots and 90K crits

We done here lads, this shit make it to live, it's over.

>>153688112
Range in pve, that's about it currently since bow still isn't that great in pve.

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>>153688021
Hold on, I was retarded. Have a look and see if it's here. I think I got the rest here.

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>>153688190
I'm scared, anons.

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>>153688190
Say after me!
WORKING
AS INTENDED

>>153688391
Huh I think they changed stormfist to stamina unless I'm misremembering what was found about it being magic.

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>>153687114
What fucking drugs is Wrobel taking?!

>>153688810
Seems it deals both, an aoe dot magicka followed with a physical burst. I can't find one called Iceheart.

>>153689226
That I remember, I mean the stam recovery. Though again I could be misremembering. Odd about iceheart if it's not there.

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Some of the sets

> Medusa sets give you passively minor force
> Another one gives you passively minor vitality
> Robes of the Hist reduces all cc for 20% and provides you with 1930 health/sec while cc (on a lv.50 character with no points in anything)
> Skooma smuggler gives you major expidition for 30 sec after drinking a potion
> Ysgramor gives you 386 spell damage to your cold damage attacks

And Wrobels way to say FUCK YOU

Sword Singer gives you 386 weapon damage to your 2h abilities

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brb respeccing everything to stam

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You seem to be able to duel everywhere and once you do a big-ass banner will get on the ground before the duel that everyone can see. If you get too far away from the starting duelling area you give up.

What a burst of activity that caused.

I actually enjoy the swagger from the "assassin" personality
Digging that edge tbf

>>153692775
Since it's Zenimax it's to be expected that they're going to mix really great stuff with a lot of decisions that's absolutely retarded. Such as the 2h ultimate.

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Odd question, but how significant is a difference of 172 armor at CP 160?

>>153693116
>Such as the 2h ultimate
2h ultimate is absolutely ridiculous. But what's the biggest problem is that every stam weapon got a really powerful ult even snb, for non-tanks, while what destro and resto got was just... what the fuck. Why don't they just fucking remove destro tree entirely, because, honestly, what's the fucking point.

desu I'm happy with these weapon ultimates. I'm already rocking 2h/bow in PvP so this just means I won't have to change shit while getting even more OP.

Wrobel doing god's work

>>153693303
I'm not sure I understand your question
Does your set only offer 170 odd points of your attribute at the level and you want to know what it looks like at 160?
Or are you thinking armor values go to 170?

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>>153693404
Aoes for the magic classes that don't have any good ones. Instead of getting rid of it, they could do the smart thing and start buffing magic so that both resource builds are at an even level.
Jokes that's not happening wtih Wrobel around. Wrobel the man who got bullied by wizards.

>>153693404
Agreed, mag sorcs (who already have the lowest average dps in the game) have it for spamming force crush and some people want wall of elements but otherwise it's useless. I was expecting that destro staff would get a really strong magicka version of the fighters guild ultimate since people miss it but nope let's have another aoe dot with no burst damage that's just a rebranded meteor.

>>153693712

As in the armor stat, like how cp 160 heavy chest armor has 2772.

I'm asking if a difference of 172 armor points between all slotted gear is worth fretting over.

>>153694029
>like how cp 160 heavy chest armor has 2772
do you have anything less than cp160 gear? if so, then. because that's what I got from your phrasing. if so, then yes, it matters a lot, but it's not the armor rating, it's the rest of the set stats

>>153694029
The armor rating is pretty unimportant. If the other piece boosts character stats or is in a set that will, use it instead. Slap on a glyph if you're worried.

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All the new sets datamined.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/289142/data-mining-all-new-sets#latest

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oh boy, does this mean I won't have to run inner light on both bars?

>>153695890
Nope, you want that empowered remember :^)

>>153694827
Medusa and Treasure hunter's looks nice for mag

>>153695890
Probably, I can see myself running it with head+shoulder+jewellery.

So are the previous stam sets still viable or have the new overland ones just ruined whatever was the old cookie cutter stuff?

This PTS patch is fucking retarded, completely lost the will to even play on live, they just gone "have it it all, have it all, ALL!" No thinking behind any sort of balance, half the set are fucking retard strong like maybe on their own they ain't bad but this fucking "yeah all set get weapons and jewellery" has already showed it going to create stupidly OP synergy between shit and don't get me fucking started on the weapon ults all but destro are most broken shit I've ever heard of been put into a game. Then this BoP on all dungeon and trail sets, like yeah let redo all this PvE content for everyone to do then than make it fucking redundant in the same fucking patch.

>>153698079
too early to tell, but I'm sure most will still be viable, or at least could be used in combination with the new ones. some of these new stam sets though.. pretty good.

and magicka sets are 99% shit, exactly nobody is surprised

>>153698079
Probably but expect some really fucking cancer coming out from these new sets.

I mean you'll be able to get a 10 set bonus fairly easy giving you 800 more weapon damage to your 2h shit.

I like how in the time of one thread, people were talking about 2h being garbage, and now we're saying it's fucking retarded good.

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>>153699172
fuck it, I'm going back to my vicious death nightblade. they want cancer in PvP, I'll fucking give them cancer. YOU DID THIS, ZOS! YOU FORCED ME TO DO THIS! I DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE THIS WAY! THIS IS THE FUTURE YOU CHOSE!

>>153699314
we're talking about 2h in PvP. it was never shit there. and we didn't have weapon ults before. it's still shit in PvE probably

>>153699314
>I don't know context
Anon bow/2h is great in pvp but it's still middling to bad in pve. Guess which one Zeni cares about.

>>153699475
I'm going to switch out my maelstorm bow with a 2h because you'll be able to take out adds like crazy with the ultimate. Get them bellow 80k hp and you'll instantly kill them FOR FREE.

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>lightning staff got stealth nerfed so it doesn't aoe during the channel
Say it ain't so guys, say it ain't so.

>>153699831
and do shit dps against bosses. ok.

>>153699950
oh who fucking cares. magicka is already completely outperformed by stamina. what's one more nerf to mag, while stam gets buffed with every patch, RIGHT?

>>153700141
Fuck you Wrobel

AHAHAH There a set that heal you for 7k every time you use an ult so you can just spam overload on and off to just spam heal yourself.

>>153700410
well I guess that's one way to make magsorc not useless...

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Guys, I don't want to play anymore...

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>>153700736

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>>153701025
That set combined with this set is cancer incarnated.

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>>153700736

>>153701025
>>153701357
the fuck are you doing. go to sleep

>>153694275

little late to respond but thanks. Though, for the record, anyone know the math for how armor reduces damage in the first place?

The build for a stam Night blade I'm looking at has a total armor value of 11629, but I am trying to figure out if I can get away with 11113 for laziness/impatience sake and maybe even for cosmetic reasons

>>153701645
I think he's gone insane with fury over what happened.

>>153702893
wouldn't blame him desu

>>153703896
I wouldn't either.

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So you can buy horse armor

>>153705823
Por que?

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>>153705894
Cashing in on the nostalgia.

>>153705823
pretty sure that's a seperete mount

>>153705823
1 crown

what?

>>153706698
PTS

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I'm about ready to make a deal with Vile to bring hybrids back.

>copying live client to pts
>asking it to do a repair
lets hope this works, don't wanna have to download 40gb+ at 500kb/s

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Uh...

WTF

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>>153709468
This one's worse

AAAAAAAHHHHH I'M SO FUCKING HYPED FOR THIS

>>153708510
TELL ME IF THIS SHIT WORKS. I HAVE SHIT TIER INTERNET THAT DISCONNECTS INTERMITTENTLY AND DON'T WANT TO DOWNLOAD THE WHOLE PTS

>>153709468
there one for health as well, but one of them is healing received, already seen 80k+ hp malubeth builds.

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>>153709468
>>153709658
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA

THEY CAN NOT BE FUCKING SERIOUS

>>153709841
Cause you know how valued magtanks are

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>>153709841
This one's not bad

>>153709664
google: Installing PTS/American clients without re-downloading client.

First link, just trying to get past error 209, if you fuck up it delete the folder that you just copy-pasted.

>>153685475
Soups?

>>153710419
cheers mate

will try this out later

>>153711583
Got past 209 now, verifying and repairing now, just copyed everything in my EU client folder, guess if just same for you but your client folder if your US.

>>153712092
Nice, do you know what the remaining amount you have to download is? Is it just ~3GB for the new patch?

>>153712191
Don't know yet, still holding my fingers that it don't just fuck up again and tell me to do full download but I assume yeh, it should be patched up all the way to client which is SotH.

>>153712424
Aight cool

Keep us posted

>>153712618
Err. Went through the verify and then was like repairing pls downloading 35gb, so I was like rip cancel > restart launcher and it only gave me the option to update PTS and now it downloading like 180mb, idk think I've fucked it but I'll let the install and see what happens.

>>153713408
Okay now it's downloading a 8gb patch, might of done actually done it.

>>153714089
Ye hopefully it works

Or it might just be downloading each DLC individually

Do dunmer make alright healers? Was thinking about turning my dunmer into a DK healer and as a vampire

>>153715618
They're okay in the sense that they have a magic passive and would protect your flame resist somewhat.

Is there any point in playing magic outside of healing, novelty, or liking the kit better?

>>153716645
ranged dps

>>153716645
nah, nope, no.
Come October magicka is real fucking dead, like dead dead, fucking holocaust'ed.

>>153716796
Like worse than pre-gorillion buff stamina back when it was magick that was favored?

>>153717404
Wasn't around back then but the gap that was made between stam and mag with the last 2-3 updates just went bigger. There new 5pc that gives 5.7k stam that not counting enchants or robust on them pieces, also destro ult is complete trash while bow got an ult that does 40k+ dot dmg and a 2h ult that crits for 88k+ dmg in pve and refunds the entire ult cost if you kill with it so you can just keep spamming it if you keep 1 hitting with it, that same ult also ignores all physical resist and also give you all your opponent's physical resist for next 8 seconds so if you hit up a 33k resist tank with it in pvp you now get 33k resist plus what ever you already have for 8 seconds.

>>153717974
So worse

>>153717974
Balance definitely took a backseat with developing the new weapon ultimates. The concepts of a few of them are really neat, but don't seem as effective as they could be.

fuck the launcher this fucking download speed, I could open a fucking torrent and get 10mb/s on like under 5 seeds

Fuck civilizans ability to see to the end of a darkened room

If only there was a way to get mino motiff that wasn't a daily.

Will there ever be a decent looking femorc npc that we can flirt with like Naryu?

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No fucking wonder they threw out the patch as early as they did, they probably had no idea how to balance it and know they've gotten tunnelvision and need the community to come in and tell them like it is.

>>153732237
I can't wait for them to ignore all the criticisms and feedback.

>>153702675

Since thread is sleeping again, can I get some clarification on the second part of this post?