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"If you want a thing done well, do it yourself"

Previous thread: >>>>153161076


>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr (embed) (embed)

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv (embed) (embed)

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj (embed) (embed)

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX (embed) (embed)

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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FIRST FOR PURGE FILTH
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2nd for Bob's Burgers
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>>153410031
>tfw donning the cainhurst armor and knight uniform
Easily the most /fa/ hunters.
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>>153410031
third for end all filthy executioner scum
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>>153410208
>not five guys: burgers and eyes
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>>153410215
>He thinks the mullet looks good
>He thinks the collar looks good
>In a game about GOIN FAST, he wants to wear armor

I will admit the Knight Dress looks dope though.

>>153410270
>Vilebloods in charge of counting
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>>153410576
>he doesnt think the knights set is dank as fuck
>he doesnt like the cainhurt armor
>he doesnt like marias clothing
>he doesnt think the evelyn is the sexiest firearm in the game

unfashionable executioners please go
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>>153410576
>He thinks the gold pointy hat looks good

One of the worst looking things in the game desu.
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How do I make a 50 ARC Stake Driver character /bbg/?

Which class, which version of the weapon?
What stats besides 50 Arc and the weapon reqs?
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Nameless Beast comrade, you up for Yaharhar? Your name comes up as **** for me by the way
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>>153411101
that i am and you can call me quad-star
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>>153410725
Let's not forget they use wheels as a weapon. WHEELS,
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>>153411159
Excellent! We shall sally forth and REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>153410725
I never said anything about Maria's gear. That's different, she's a hunter, not Vileblood filth.

Besides, I don't usually wear full sets. I get that Fashionborne, mix and match.

>>153410851
With most things it really wouldn't look very good. But there's a kind of appeal to the group of fanatics what swing around giant wheels and hammers as their weapons, that they'd definitely be the ones to make it look good.
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>>153411173
hey fuck you, i hate executioner scum but the wheel is badass
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>>153411287
Nah fuck you executioner apologist
I like it too
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>>153411281
im also a fan of mix and matching, and vileblood fashion is fucking top for that. also marias armor was fashioned in cainhurst and is therefore vileblood by nature
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Gonna ask again since this is a fresh thread.
Anyone up for Laurence? I'll set a pass if anyone wants to come.
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>>153410851
>he doesn't like headbutting his enemies into submission with his pointy hat
Fucking vilebloods. What do they know?
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>>153411173
That's pretty fucking badass, anon.

They're so damn good that they don't even need conventional weapons. They'll just pound your ass with a goddamn wheel.

Seriously, what the fuck
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>>153411459
Sure thing, set it and I'll get ringing.
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>>153411101
that wheelchair ass motherfucker killed me in one shot at full hp. i forgot we were in ng+3
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>>153411173
Wheel is one of the best looking weapons tbqh famalamadingdongdalamygdala
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>>153411459
>>153411678
>25 minutes later
>Still nothing
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>all of this beast filled carnage

its been a blast boss but im afraid its time for me to play some ToV. i look forward to our next REEEEckening
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Next up, Nightmare of Memes

If a third person would like to tag along for the Memerealm, I am ringing with bbgex at the first Mensis lamp, Beastmode is purely optional but encouraged
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>>153410725
>Liking Maria's gear
I'll agree on everything else but that
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>>153413508
uh you never gave him a password
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>>153413969
Try reading next time.
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>>153413889
hold on famygdala
a 3rd is on the way
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>>153413839
Aaaaah no worries, my friend, it's been a blast!
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>>153414336
Aayyyy! There in a sec, forgot the lecture hall existed
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>>153414040
try not being a faggot next time
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>>153414667
Man, I was just trying to help an anon. He's the faggot for fucking off like that.
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>>153414507
alright i'm ringing at the lamp

Had to jam some better gems into the claws
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>>153414507
jesus
I'll be ringing at the room before the spoders
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man Yarharhar freaking sucks
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FUCKING GUTWORMS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>153415803
Beast Cutter R2's are perfect for them
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>>153414040
>>153414667
Original anon here. I am a faggot, yeah. I had to step away, my bad. I'm here for the rest of the night now, if you guys still want to try. I'll set pass if I get a response.
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>>153415803
Sincerely fuck those things.
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Back from dinner, will start ringing in Hamlet for some jolly co-operation (I'm also aiming for Brador's chestpiece).

>>153410208
I went to this exact place in Mississippi, and the burgers there were fucking delicious.
I also remember I had this video on my phone for almost a year and am only just now uploading it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke6uw8ATYmY&feature=youtu.be
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>>153417243
Forgot pw

bbgchief
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>>153415803
I'll ring at Micolash's fog
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>>153417243
Lighthouse Hut or Hamlet lamp?
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>>153417243
That video was exactly what I was hoping for
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>>153417762
fishing hamlet lamp
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>>153418003
ringing SRB
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James, you up for Memesis Part 2?
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I am genuinely fucking surprised we got invaded, I'm BL240 for God's sake
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At some point in the bloodborne design team
>Hey guys we've got the BEST LOOKING ARMOR IN THE GAME file all ready, where should we make it available
>Well we want our players to have fun and look cool so...right in the beginning of the game
>Uh...okay what do they have to do to get it
>Literally nothing, just buy it from the store
>Ah well see this armor is also one of the only armors that looks different based on gender
>Make them both the best looking then
>Oh wow okay, well at least we'll make sure the players have to work for the best dex weapon and the best strength weapon
>Ah, well, about that. Have it so that players can start with them

I mean I'm exaggerating a tad, the mask is kind of 5/10
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>>153418995
>yharnam hunter
>best set in the game
consider roping yourself my guy, very seriously
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>>153418712
FUCKING BACON REEEEEEE!

But yeah its after 250 where things start to really die out since you can meet the hardcaps on all of the stats at that time.

i see alot of white Spectres at BL 544 but not much co-op. as everyone can fight for themselves.
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>>153419132
Not him, but I like the Yharnam Hunter set a lot.

>>153418386
Were you Beak Mask? That was an NPC invasion. Also re-ringing at the hut.
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Question, dudes. Those three really tough hunters in Yahar'gul after the Yahar'gul chapel lamp post, I've killed them but I used a lot of vials so do they stay dead or if I peace out back to the dream will they respawn?
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>>153419761
nah
they don't repsawn
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>>153419891
Thanks, I thought not, but definitely a better safe than sorry scenario.
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James! Would you like to do Upper Cathedral Ward? I'm going for it, then I'll have cleared the entire base game in a day.
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>>153420228
sure thing
i'll be at lamp
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That woof wasn't kidding around, wow
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Killed Orphan with a viscral.

Thanks, Heedless.
Going for Laurence next.
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It's kinda dead in here.
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Anyone wanna help me take down the undead giant in the lower pthumeru 2nd level? He's kicking my ass. Password is bbg123

I'll ring the bell as soon as I post this
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>>153422374
Everyone's co-oping, can't post when you're playing, also it's a Tuesday night, not exactly the most lively of times
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>>153422374
What do you want, the game's over a year old and almost every discussion that could be had about it has happened. It's difficult to keep a thread alive when most posts are just people asking for help
There's also probably only like ~30 people who visit these threads with any regularity
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>>153422779
I still need help with Laurence ;_;
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>>153422779
>that girl
Why is his """daughter""" Lucius?
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>>153422374
have a fresh dunk
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James, I lied, I have one more boss - Paarl. If you're available, let me know!
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Who /twogames/ here? I'm killing shit in Bloodborne on my 60" and right next to it I'm simultaneously ruling my realm in Crusader Kings 2.
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Can someone explain how Kos Parasite gems work? The OP guide says it's a good idea to farm Isz Watchers, but I've been doing that and they only drop 27.2% physical triangle gems. Why would I want those when Kos Parasite only does Arc damage?
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>>153422383
iceman if you were from here, thanks for the help on that, you kicked ass
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>>153424027
>not establishing a liquor empire in our lord and savior Alex Grandi's glorious Historical Project Mod for Victoria 2

Looks like you need some more insight lad.
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>>153424450
Kek I bought the four game bundle of CK2, EU4, Vicky 2, and HOI3 during the summer sale but I haven't played Vicky yet. I take it that's your favorite? Definitely the dankest meme machine on /gsg/. God that is a fucking awful general. Can barely even get actual game discussion in there.
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Anyone feeling up for Logarius?
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>>153424708
At this point it's the only one I really enjoy playing at this point. HOI3 is actually too autistic for me, though it's not like I enjoy 4. EUIV got boring quick and CKII is either really fun or really boring, more often the latter. And even then, I barely play gsg anymore, it all just gets kind of samey after a while.

But I admit to frequenting /gsg/ to this day, just for the sake of watching the drama and shitposting unfold.

Anyways, reminder of Anon's lore theory.
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>>153424217
Isz Watchers will eventually drop an Arcane gem, they drop all kinds of gems but Physical is the most common. You could try FRC Ebrietas for Arcane Abyssals.
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>>153425252
CK2 is by far the one I've played the most of. I fucked with EU4 first but it didn't make sense to me. I think it will when I go back to it after CK2 but CK2 is where the basics "clicked" for me. I think it's great fun, and very interesting, but I can see why people call them autism simulators. They're not for everyone. Screenshots I've seen of HOI3 really do look like a bit much although I love WW2 shit so I'll eventually give it a go eventually.
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Fighting Orphan, pass is cockfag

Anyone wanna jam? Ringing at bossfog.
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>>153414902
oh i thought yu were the beckoner, sorry man. hes a faggot
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>>153423057
Password my man?
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>>153426183
Coming
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>>153427913
Cool, reringing now.
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Level 76 first play through

Should the Lower Pthumeru Chalice dungeon feel challenging for me? Because the bosses are kicking my ass and the dungeon itself isn't a breeze by any means.
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>>153428276
Lower Pthumeru's about where the dungeons start to get really tough, don't feel bad.

Just wait till Defiled.
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Reringing for Orphan, 2nd stage killed us.
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>trying to fight Amelia at level 12 with +1 axe
What level should I be instead?
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>>153428446
ringing. you need one more?
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>>153428860
Yeah
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>>153428841
level 1 fgt
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>>153424985
I can be!
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>>153427157
bbgstu.
ringing my the hunter's nightmare lamp.
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>>153428969
wow bro epic
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>>153429140
you made?
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>>153429052
Coming
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>>153428841
Try upgrading your axe, it should be +3 by now, there's a ton of bloodstone shards to be found in Cathedral Ward.

Also, find Alfred, he gives you three fire papers. He's in the Cathedral Ward, too, look around.
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Where can I get blood rocks?
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>>153428949
whelp i'm done lol
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>>153429742
Insight shop for 60
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>>153429641
Pulled it off with +2 and level 17
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Almost got him, damn.
By the way, Aulon. I'm sorry for not re-ringing earlier. I assumed that because you were much better than me and his health was low, you'd just wreck Orphan yourself. You killed him right?
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>>153429742
After you kill Wet-Nurse, you can buy them from the insight vendor for 60 insight
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>>153430085
Geez...
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>>153430207
I did,
>>153422269
(already killed Laurence)
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>>153430334
Nice. Alright. Thanks for your help.
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>>153431150
no problemo
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Redpill me on Chikage
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>>153434196
It's one of the best weapons, and only Execushitters will say otherwise.
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>>153434196
*unzips*
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>>153434196
Fucking killed me from 10 feet away
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>>153434271
I just got the 12 bloodtinge to equip it (and only for this reason - I'm strength/vit build) and the first thing I noticed was crazy health drain. How do you make that not suck?
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>>153434794
> STR build
> Chikage

No.

It's a BLT weapon, if you want to use it properly you need 50 BLT. The health drain sucks but it's mitigated by only having it in tricked mode when fighting (swap back and forth using transform attacks) and having a +5 health regen gem on your gun.
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>>153434794
Use the tricked form sparingly. The transformation attacks are some of the most powerful moves, you can get by on them alone. Secondly, make a bloodtinge build for the Chikage, the health drain is worth it when you're dishing out the damage you can do with a pure blt build. Also the tricked charge R2 is god-tier.
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>>153435075
Sorry I don't think I was clear. I got myself to 12 bloodtinge so I could fuck around with it. I didn't expect to use it effectively. I'm still on my first character so I'm trying to experiment a little with everything to get ideas for future characters.
>>153435101
I don't think I understand blood builds at this point but that sounds pretty interesting.
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>/bbg/ is dead
>no friends on Steam are online
>Dark Souls 3 is too shit to play more than 10 minutes
>woke up at 4pm; it's 1am now
>this is my last off-day
>I'll probably pass out at 6 in the morning and sleep the whole day away again
NOW THIS IS A NIGHTMARE
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>>153435928
>woke up at 4pm
I really fucking miss being young.I rarely sleep past 8am or so even on a weekend.
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>>153436276
I blame my constant night shifts, and lack of friends.

I just wake up an hour before my shift starts (usually 3:30pm to 5pm depending on the day) and get home around 11pm / 1am. I'm naturally still awake at that point, so I just play vidya or whatever until 4 or 6am rolls around. Then the cycle continues.
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>>153435413
Bloodtinge builds are fun. You're limited to only three weapons, the Chikage, Bloodletter, and Bowblade, and the Chikage is locked behind Logarus while the others are late in the DLC, but they're all great weapons. Your guns will actually do serious damage too, there's a webm floating around of a blt build shooting NG+ Cleric Beast to death.

They take a bit of time to get started, because the Evelyn, the best gun, is also behind Logarius, but once they do they're hella fun.
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>>153436703
Evelyn is before Logarious, it's in the library with all the ghost whores
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>>153436703
What other attributes do you use? Vitality as always I'm sure? Any decent weapons to get you through until you get the ones you're talking about?
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>you will never meme Hunters with Micolash all night long

Why live?
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>>153436969
repeating pistol
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>>153436950
No it's not. You're probably thinking of Executioner's Gloves.

>>153436969
You'll need a strength of 10 for the Chikage, and 14 for the Bloodletter. Chikage needs 14 skill, and Bowblade requires 15, so any investment into those stats will be to meet those baseline requirements. Otherwise, everything goes into Vitality and Bloodtinge, and once you get those both to 50, you put the rest into Endurance.

The starting weapons will be the best, but Logarius will still be a bitch if you rush straight to him via Cleric Beast-Gascoigne-Amelia-Witches, so I'd suggest asking here for help if you ever find yourself needing it. But once you beat Logarius and get the Chikage and Evelyn things get a lot easier.
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>>153437128
>Why live?
I haven't played Elder Scrolls 6 yet.
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So is anyone wanting to do coop?
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>>153437396
I've already killed all my bosses, but if you want co-op, I'll glady join.
Unless it's chalices.
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>>153437329
Yeah it is
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rtm_DnPfsgg
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>>153437537
I haven't beat Amygdala, Darkbeast Paarl or Mergo
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>>153437579
Wow, literally never saw that, thanks.
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>>153437654
I got you, friend. No worries. Gimme a pw and a lamp.
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>>153437654
>Darkbeast Paarl
Easy as fuck. Like I'm not especially good at this game but had no trouble with Paarl first try.
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>>153437718
Nightmare Frontier, pass is bbg
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>>153437756
When did you fight him, at what level? Paarl can be tough if you fight him early.
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Does anyone want to join me for Isz Pthumrian Elder?

I was in a Isz Glyph for something on layer 1 and just did the whole dungeon because why not? Got a rune and a +5 health regen gem. Now I'm on the final layer and boss is Elder.

This is a strength character so I have no need for Cold Gems, but I'm willing to savescum until I get Rock if any Arcane builds want to join me.

No idea what the glyph is, but pass is bbg

Side question, is it normal for a non-Sinister Dungeon to have Bell Maidans in single player? The third layer of this dungeon was fucking gigantic and had a bell maidan ringing the sinister bell in the farthest corner.
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Thank you for helping me beat Amygdala. Want to co op Mergo?
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>>153438670
Of course. Which lamp?
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>>153438704
Mergo Loft Middle. I also havent killed the Brain of Mensis.
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>>153438813
I'll ring my bell and we can kill both.
Be sure to use the Make Contact gesture in front of it for 30 sec to get the best Moon rune.
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>>153438319
Sure, I'll join. Need to farm Elder on this build anyway. Ringing at the SRRC now.
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>>153438870
I've dropped him but I don't know how to get to him
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Let me get down there before I ring. I am garbage at jumping out of the cage
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>>153439036
There's an elevator in that room with the bunch of masked retards and a couple giant fat retards with whips
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>>153439272
I made it to the bridge with the eyeball girl
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>>153439308
Go ahead and kill the Brain in your world, I'll do it in mine. I'll ring at the lamp when you're done.
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>>153438319
>>153438969
You still there my dude? Been sitting here for a while now.
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>>153438969
Ringing. The fog wall appeared for a little bit, but then it disapeared again.
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>>153439427
FUG
U
G

Should I ring again, or did you get a Rock?
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Ringing again for Elder
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>>153439397
I'm at Mergo Loft Lower, near the elevator.
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Having a little trouble with BSB would any good hunter care to help? Ringing at fog pass is bbg.
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>>153439876
Sorry

Ringing again.
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>>153440213
I meant middle, sorry
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>>153440330
Ringin
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>>153440237
Bumpin for help :(
I keep getting him into last phase by myself
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Wtf was that?

He flew in the air, turned around 180 mid flight like a balloon and landed on me.
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>>153440889
Elder does some weird targeting fuckery in coop sometimes. Shit sucks.
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What do I do after beating Mergo?
I know you can fight Germahn and the Moon Presence. I have 3 chords but do I only get one shot to use them?
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>>153441128
Yes.
There is a glitch where you can stay in your current NG after killing MP. Simply use a Hunter's Mark / Bold Hunter's Mark during its death animation.
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>>153440940
Got my rock, thanks for the help.

I hope you got something at least useable.
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Ayy, I got a Rock from that one. Did you get one too?
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>>153441425
Nah, it was a shithouse Gem, but at least I can +10 my Rosmarinus now. GG.
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>2:38 AM
Anyone else need co-op?
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>>153441710
What's the future like anon?
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>>153441796
Lonely
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>>153441280
Can you summon for Gerhman/ MP?
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>>153442115
Do you mean ring my Small Resonant Bell?
I don't wanna have to go into NG+.
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>>153442228
looks pretty good
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>>153442115
You can summon for Gehrman/MP, but the thing is the person you're summoning has to have started Gehrman's fight in their world. Its pretty unpopular though since most just go to NG+ afterwards.
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>>153442228
oooh it sings to me~
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>>153442228
It's fucking late, dude. Now I'm hungry as fuck.
Fuck you
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Do weapons carry over to NG+?
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>>153442587
No
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>>153442587
Nope
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>>153442587
Weapons in your inventory, yes.
Weapons in your messenger bath, no, but if you kill Gehrman, his attire and weapon will be for sale at the bath at the start of NG+.
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>>153442587
That's a negative, ghost rider

>>153442707
Stop lying
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>>153442587
Nope
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>Start fighting Gerhman
>He instakills me with his his grab
This is gonna be fun
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Reminder that Maria is best girl
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>>153443082
want help?
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Yeah no I'm done with Bloodborne
Fuck Gerhmen
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>>153443532
bk
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>>153443514
Please god
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>>153443637
Pw?
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>>153443867
bbg
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>>153443532
>he can't beat a crippled old man
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>>153442228
I NEED THIS
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>>153444038
Ringing
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>>153444302
Make it.
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>>153442587
nope, although they really should, it's kinda retarded that they don't, at the very least they should be all unlocked in the Messenger Shop
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Farewell, Herbet.
May you find your worth in becoming an Old One.

Io_

>accidentally posted in /dsg/
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I BEAT THE GAME FUCK YES
THANK YOU
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Dead general
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Anyone else feel like becoming an ayy lmao is not the best idea?
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>>153444842
Now platinum it.
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>Bold Hunter Mark glitch with MP actually worked
>still got MP's echoes
Fuck yeah. Chief is still around.

I just realized that the only boss I haven't fought yet is Logarius. Anybody down to go to Cainhurst with me? Password will be bbgchief; ring at the first Cainhurst lamp.
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>>153445851
I will Platinum BB if the Giants win the NFCE
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>>153446012
Nobody, eh?
I'll try again another time.
It's 4:30 am and I should really go to sleep.

Goodnight /bbg/!
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Morning, /bbg/. Anybody playing right now?
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Would these gems be good enough for PVP? I know they're not the absolute best I could get for a Parasite, but I've done a few matches and they seem alright. Is it worth it to keep going?
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>>153450086
No
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>>153446702
Well, I just got here myself. Only level 55 tho.

>>153449203
Yup, about to see how tough Cainhurst really is.
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>>153409803
i beat bb and its dlc when it was released, got the plat trophy and then kinda dropped the game to keep it somewhat fresh to replay.

I know my character is super high level from the chalice dungeons. Like 150-200 i cant remember.

Should i just start over with a new character or go on to NG+? i feel like i might be overleveled and it would just be cheeeesy
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>>153450086
Considering that all the BiS gems give you a +226 bonus damage, I'd say it's alright
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>>153443532
Literally just shoot him
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>>153443532
Easiest final(ish) Souls boss yet,
>wait for him to attack
>press Circle
>shoot
>visceral

Literally on every phase you can do this
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Anyone need help? Or wants to coop? please?
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>>153452035
Want to help me farm FRC Amy or Abhorrent beast?
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>>153442228
jesus fucking christ, this is way to much fat, it's a joke, right?

i mean, i'm a avid meat eater, but to much is to much, eat healthy guys, or you won't outrun that chalice madmen...
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>>153450869
i think you missed demon's souls, dark souls.

>demon's souls
>literally just a blob that talks
>dark souls
>R2+R1 to win
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>>153452302
Sure Amy first?
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>>153452514
Sure, it's Isz Amy, glyph: rpkipbdn
Pass: doll

On the third phase I'll go under it and attack it, drawing aggro and you can pelt it with hunter tools/cannon/bow blade if you have any.
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>>153452354
The idea is that you don't eat something like this every day. That's why it's appealing.
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>>153452629
Sweet I'll be there in a sec.
I'll spam executioners then.
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>>153452845
Sounds good, if you can't get good range, use blacksky or accursed brew
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>>153452902
Ok, do you mind helping me get through the dungeon as you know where the locks are and bosses will be much faster?
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>>153453039
I've no idea where the levers are, but I can help you with the bosses if you like. They're easy enough
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I like to make random dungeons and summon friends into them. Because It feels like we're playing an old party based WRPG.
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>>153453176
Too bad chalice materials are a pain to get
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>>153453417
SRRC fixes that.
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>>153453075
Just killed the brainsuck on second try set a pass and I'll start ringing m8
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>>153453586
Pass: doll
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>>153453613
Oh sorry you already said that. Ringing smallie at lamp now
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>>153453676
Did you get anything good from watchers? Also, have another person helping, so there will be 3 of us (he's got the L3 lamp open, so should be fast matchmaking)
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>>153453908
Think it was some lame tempering gem and a chunk.
Ok, I can ring at the fog now but am still ringing at lamp for quite a while now
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>>153452831
probably tastes like salt and cheese
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>>153454057
I'm ringing at the lamp too, taking an unusually long time
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>>153454084
I got a radiance oath rune equipped so I changed it to impurity now, not sure if it helps or not but maybe you are filthy vileblood
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>>153454084
>>153454057
I'm going to keep ringing, but just going to the bathroom
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>>153454078
The only thing that tastes like salt here is yourself.
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>>153454084
Oh that's driving me crazy, I can see your ghost waiting.
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>>153454213
I'm wearing milkweed rune
Executioner scum
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>>153454498
You are ringing the small resonant bell and not beckoning bell right?
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>>153454691
Yeah I am ringing a smallie. You summoned the other anon or is it just me? I never had a problem with connection before
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>>153454774
No, nobody can seem to connect to me right now, I've reset the console and everything. Password's on, NAT's open, set to worldwide.
I'll let you know if the other guy manages to get in
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>>153454774
>>153454835
Ok, the other guy's managed to reach me. Are you sure you have the password on?
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>>153454835
My settings are also set right, I'll try restart and wait.
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>>153454907
Restarted, ringing smallie at lamp L3 , pass set to "doll" (without quote marks) and set to worldwide now.
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BBG I no longer have to travel for work and want to beat bloodborne after having played a collected 100 hours between 2 characters. 70 + hours on my blind run character, and then just shy of 30 on a build me and my friend made for a speed run even though it was his blind run and I had never beaten ROM on my other save.

What tips hints and general shenanigans can you give me? I know blood is important. I have eyes wont say how many or where they are. Haven't bought the DLC yet but will as soon as I beat the game the first time. I also need to know which places are optional to complete the game.

please describe any place you name since I am not familiar with them. In my blind run I have beaten ROM and am in the dreamland place with the fuzzy electro guys. The place that an amygdala takes you when you have the kidney stone. Not sure where to go or what to do once I beat it but I think scary yharnam is past that door the amygdala grabbed me from.

The 26-30 hour run character we found a bunch of stuff so I know a little bit about places I haven't been to in my main save.
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What is the dividing factor between a hunter who became a beast and a crazy/blood drunk hunter?
I thought it was perhaps time or the amount of blood being thrown around but then we get to the old hunters: some of the oldest and blood drunkest hunters, and they're all (mostly) human
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>>153455103
Try ringing in the main area
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>>153455473
Oh I hope the other anin gets summoned quickly enough now.
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>>153455651
21.5%
+15 physical
up stamina cost

Damn, that's a good gem
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>>153456061
Sweet it was worth the wait then.
+18.6
phys +8
vs beast -10.5%

at least I think that's the gem I got I was too busy spinning the wheel and forgot to check it before pushing X

Shame I really had to go now we could do mine Amy. Maybe later?
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>>153456814
Would love to, if you want to send me a message on PSN I'll get back to you
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With nourishing gems, is +15 bolt/fire worthless?
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>>153457903
Yeah pretty much.

It gives your weapon a nice visual effect when you hit stuff though.
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>doing chalice dungeons (again) for new character
>50/50/25 build for HMS, because I'm a fag
>get to defiled hotdog
>do no damage
>die
>go get trusty saw cleaver, upgrade to +9, throw some random gems on there
>deal the same damage as HMS

I get that things have to have some resistance to arcane or MLGS makes this game a joke, but for real.
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>>153458423
Isn't it flat damage though? For wheel or HMLS, doesn't it increase its attack?
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>>153460864
Thats dumb. And the saw is easily the best starter
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>>153458561
If you're 50/50/25 with a +10 HMLS and are doing no damage to Watchdog of all things, you clearly forgot to put your gems in. I do tons of damage to hotdog with a HMS and an actual build without 50 in almost every stat.
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>>153462197
That was fucking beautiful. Takes me back to my DMC days. Is Ni-oh any good? I haven't played it yet.
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>>153462317
yee its good. right now its an 8/10 for me. It needs to fix somethings here and there. if they add some pvp it wil easily be a 9/10 for me. Also the beta is free to download so go ahead and try it out. the last day for beta is sept 6th i think
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>>153462473
That was a fucking brutally quick trap. I assume there's a way to dodge it if you know it's coming, but if you don't how the fuck do you not die there?
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Holy shit 40 vit at 50 BL makes story mode bosses way less frustrating.
Makes me regret being a fool struggling on my first pt at 25 vit.
Every new player should have 40 vit and 28/20 for min stats to use all weapons.
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>>153462630
there are multiple paths you cant take in the level. You can find one path that can lead behind the enemy as shown in this webm. but you are not guaranteed to survive
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>>153462969
can*
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>>153462197
>>153462330
>>153462473
>>153462969
Why does the combat feel bad
I can't shake the dynasty/gundam warrior attack feel.
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>>153463307
The combat feels fine to me .
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>>153462317
I personally don't really like it. It's feels like way of the samurai, dark souls and every tecmo koei game ever just mashed together
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>>153463371
even my fingers. ... you feel it too don't you?
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Anybody savescum farming I can piggyback with?
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Is nioh out?
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>>153466572
The beta is out
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>>153466572
>tfw you just can't get into Nioh
>tfw nothing will ever be like Bloodborne ever again
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>>153468925
You make this post every time. Get off it, dude.
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>>153469157
First time I've ever said that myself, anon.
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NG+ with an overpowered build I got the platinum with
-OR-
NG as a different build?

Help, /bbg/, which one is more fun?
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>>153469685
ng+ with an overpowered build. then take all the way to ng+7
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>>153469685
I'd say new build, because I did ng+ on a lvl 180 build and there wasn't any fun, since I already had all the items and no need to explore
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>>153469157
but some anons do feel that way,
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>>153469779
>>153469874
I'm at level 215 iirc, and the only chalice I thought was challenging was the one where your health is halved.
Idk if I'll play all the way to NG+7 but I guess I'll give NG+ with a weapon I haven't upgraded yet.

Used the wheel and the cleaver to plat.
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>playing the DLC for the first time
>see the infamous Rapehorse
>Beat his ass with Henriet and my 10+ Axe with Fire Paper and big Spin2Wins
>that nigger isn't so tough, he's not even the best Koopa Kid, and this OST isn't anything special either
>Reduce him to half health
>oh man he fell over even in the cutscene, I'm kicking his ASS
>wait why did he pick up his sword, he's talking
>is he a friend now
>why is the music ramping up
>oh shit I just got bodied in one hit

Fucking Ludwig man, jesus christ.

What's a better weapon, the Whirligig, Amygdalan arm or Saif Blade?
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>>153470478
whirligig +fire paper + beastblood pellet
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>>153470478
All those weapons are very different, but for PvE purposes the Whirligig Saw if you're a Strength/Arcane build. Saif is more for Skill and the Amy Arm is also a Strength weapon. Also:

>summoning for a boss first try
>summoning Henriett
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>>153471067
I didn't mean to summon it for the boss, just the area's obnoxiously powerful hunters. Then I walked in and everyone was begging me to save them from Ludwig, who I think is supposed to be the beast that the sole constable kills.
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>>153471243
You could blank out your summons whenever. But if you're gonna summon then slap on the Impurity rune and summon Valtr, he's a beast eater.
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>>153471485
All I was able to find is Radiance, which is pretty great, and Corruption. Where's Impurity?
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>>153471729
Forbidden Woods, Valtr gives it to you. He's right next to the lamp where you open the door.
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>>153470478
Whirligig is objectively the strongest and the tricked L2 cannot be beaten, the Amy Arm is fun as hell and has great range, Saif is stylish and fast, great for spamming R1.
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>>153472078
Oh fuck, was he always there? Have I run past this dude in my three different playhroughs and never seen him?
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>>153472202
You can, hes in the small building with the elevator to the right of the lamp. If you walk on one side of the column he can be easily missed
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>>153472983
And i just realized the other anon already explained this to you
No more 4channing on my phone i guess
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>>153472202
Yeah he's there the whole time, some people miss him if they're rushing to open the shortcut. Wear the Impurity rune and help other players kill bosses. You'll get Vermin as a reward and once you've crushed 5 you could talk to Valtr, reload the area and the see what happens. I won't spoil it but it's kinda cool when you summon him after that.
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>Ludwig's big dumb talking horseface just starts screaming and I accidentally hit him

Welp, damn. I got the Moonlight Greatsword, but I hope he didn't have more to say.
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>>153473805
After Ludwig killed the first 700 people down here, why did they keep sending more?

And how did Ludwig use the MLGS anyway? It was huge, unless his version was the small one the player picks up, and if so how did his get so big?
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>>153474069
The moonlight sword's implied to have a will and capabilities of its own.
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>>153474439
>The moonlight sword's implied to have a will and capabilities of its own.

Is it? I always thought it was a Pthumerian artifact that Ludwig heard some nameless alien creatures speak through. Also explains why it changes sizes.
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>And this is the research zone where experiments are carried out and it's not a decrepit mess filled with failed test subjects that have turned into monsters, with friendly staff instead of dead and/or horribly mutated into monstrosities

Seriously can we have ONE lab which isn't in a constant state of being raped by Cthulhu, please? It's Miyazaki's greatest mystery how Yharnam even managed to do enough blood research to advance as far as it has, when it seems as if the second Blood research begins the entire operation crumbles and devolves into Great Ones raping everyone's collective faces.
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>>153475620
You have to remember, we're seeing everything at it's worst. We're seeing Yharnam on the night of the Mensis Ritual, we're seeing Byrgenwerth long after it has been abandoned, we're seeing the Research Hall inside of an alien nightmare dimension. It wasn't always like this, but now it is, and that's what matters. People had lives in Yharnam, had jobs and families and routines.

It's also partly the game's Lovecraftian influence, in his stories, whenever we're shown some alien civilization, it's always either on the downfall or already dead. The people of The Mound, the Yithians, the Elder Things, it's all in decline or long destroyed.

Historically, whatever the Great Ones have been involved in never turns out well. The Pthumerians first made contact and now the ruins of their civilization are filled with undeads and monsters. Loran is nothing but beasts. And Yharnam's done for, too. So much for their sympathetic nature that they'll happily allow another civilization to commit the same mistakes as before.
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>>153476267
I thought Mensis collapsed around the time that they fucked up Kos(m)? What do you mean by Mensis Ritual?

Maybe Mensis beckoned Mergo and became Mother Brain, prompting Byrgenwerth to halt the Nightmare Moon phase by having Rom created using the tissue of a Great One to seal away that shit so Mergo's obviously evil nature couldn't escape into the outside world through Mensis's various mummy mediums like Micolash, but they failed to account for the fact that the 'good' Great Ones like Ebrietas and Kos were either locked up or murdered by their own hands, while bad ones like the Amygdalas and the Moon Presence and potentially the Doll were free to go for their agendas and spread their influence into stuff like the Beast Plague

I base this solely on the message that you get after you kill Rom, where it says "Ritual Secret Broken" like it was a lock keeping everything in place
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>>153477173
Byrgenwerth raided the Hamlet, Mensis and the Healing Church didn't when exist yet.

The ritual was what you heard in pre Blood Moon Yahar'gul, and was Mensis making contact with Mergo.
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>>153477173
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Good afternoon, /bbg/. What's on the agenda for today?
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>>153462852
I just pump everything into my weapon stats to 30, and then I start dumping points into VIT.
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>>153477173
The Healing Church as an organization is made of regular lay people, clergy folk, blood saints and the upper echelons, the Vatican, if you will. These are The School of Mensis and The Choir, rival factions within the Church doing their own spooky shit. The Choir is located in the Upper Cathedral Ward and Mensis is located in Yahar'gul, The Unseen Village.

First, there was Byrgenwerth, a place of learning which discovered the Pthumerian ruins and the Great Ones and the Old Blood and decided to try and evolve humanity past its meagre limitations. Probably after the Fishing Hamlet massacre (pure assumption) a Byrgenwerth member named Laurence broke from Byrgenwerth and founded the Healing Church to continue experimenting with blood, whereas Master Willem thought Insight alone would be sufficient for human evolution. Slowly but surely Byrgenwerth was abandoned as the Healing Church gained prominence in Yharnam. Byrgenwerth today is totally empty save for Willem who still sits before the Moonside Lake turning into a mushroom. He points you towards the lake because Mensis is part of the Church and fuck them.

The Mensis Ritual was the School of Mensis' big plan to beckon the Moon Presence with Mergo, as Great Ones desire surrogate children, and in fine Gothic and Lovecraftian fashion, it absolutely all falls to shit.

Mensis was using Rom to hide the effects of their ritual, when you kill Rom, the sky turns cosmic and the blood moon suddenly appears, and gives you direct access to their base of the operations in the Nightmare.

Also,
>good great ones
>evil great ones

Great Ones are beyond morality, they simply just are, their motivations and agendas for anything they do or want is totally alien to us, it's kind of the point of cosmic horror.
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What's the best way to farm FRC abhorrent beast? My pizza cutter L2 isn't stunning it
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>>153478030
Playing Far Cry Primal and probably going back to Bloodborne later on when I'm tired of Adam Jensen going unga bunga for the day
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>>153477698
So who discovered Ebrietas left behind in the labyrinth? The Church, I had thought. And founding members of Byrgenwerth, bigwigs like Laurence, went on to form Mensis, right? And Master/Provost Willem told him to fear the old blood while simultaneously not doing that at all himself. Laurence was also present during the Kosm thing, and Gerhman was around during that time as well, and Willem went on to look after Rom in the lake.

So my question is basically this: if the Kosm Incident, and the subsequent forming of the Healing Church and the institution of the Hunt in the wake of beasthood happened in the lifetime of characters like Willem, who was already an old-ass motherfucker, and Laurence and Gehrman, it can't have been any more than 20 years ago, at the latest. So why does the in-game lore treat it like it was millennia ago? Gerhman could've even hung out with Ludwig and other legendary figures like Henryk. And is Gerhman REALLY the very first Hunter ever? Or is he just the first 'Hunter' in the same way that the player is a Hunter, in that they've transcended mere beast-hunting and have become truly enlightened, which is what it means to be a Hunter? And just who is the 'Nightmare Newborn'? Mergo was clearly born a long time ago if a Pthumerian queen is his mother. It couldn't be anyone except the player given that every other baby was a miscarriage of a Great One. But Great Ones are said to inhabit dreams, not Nightmares. What makes it a Nightmare Newborn?

I don't know, man. I love this game but I really don't know.
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>>153478549
But the Mensis school were fucked up and turned into that rotten-ass brain, right? Mergo clearly didn't like what he saw and it resulted in the miscarriage of all their brains. How long ago was that? Because the Nightmare of Mensis feels like it's been around for a while, what with Micolash's real body being a mummy and all.

Great Ones can be broken into two categories: those who are sympathetic in spirit, as it's said, and those who are not. Rom can be excluded as she's a vacuous piece of shit, but Ebrietas definitely fits the bill as sympathetic. She willingly gave her precious healing blood to the church, was probably friends with Rom before her death as seen by her mourning the spider carcass, and is able to be called upon for the spell to defend her wielder. Compare this to any Amygdala or the Moon Presence, who are fucking assholes who just want to be pieces of shit all day. Amygdala gave Patches the body of a spider out of this very desire to be a fucker, for instance. Now, from a human perspective one is good and one is evil. I know the idea of objective morality sort of loses meaning when you're looking at a group of beings which are so much above us we may as well be dogs to them, but from the moral standpoint of the good of the human race and, in a smaller scale, Yharnam, Ebrietas is 'good' and every Amygdala aside from the few that just observe the player instead of fucking with him are 'evil'.
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>>153479639
Well, the Healing Church is a big organization, Mensis is one part of it. Mensis probably fucked off into the Nightmare to better do their spookiness, and that might very well have been a while ago, or they suffered the same fate as the people in Yahar'gul lining the walls. The actual scope of time in the game is probably the most vague thing, to be honest.

The Brain of Mensis appears to have been found or made BY Mensis in the Nightmare. It's a Great One, just all fucked up and rotten, whether a 'naturally' occurring Great One or some kind of ascended human, we don't know, all we know is it's a 'legitimate Great One'. Check out the Living String item description. It's essentially a giant Winter Lantern, and like them, it's body is composed of Messengers.

As for good and bad Great Ones, I just don't really buy into that concept. It's a very un-Lovecraftian concept and anathema to cosmic horror's ideals. Truth is, we really don't know the actual backstory behind all that transpired and trying to apply human morality to transdimensional aliens seems utterly futile. Did Ebrietas actually just lie down and give us blood, or insight? Did we take it? Is that carcass Rom or a previous Rom-like spider? The Amygdalae seem almost animalistic and serve to facilitate transportation into the Nightmare if you have the right ticket. They hang around and stare, or grab, or fire lasers like a defense system. Some may not even be actual Great Ones, since Rom and the Amys bleed red like humans.
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anyone up for a few hours of extended co op? will do anything but chalices


>>153478928
>>153479639
>>153482212
im not too good at responding to this shit but man is it interesting. thanks for taking the time
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>>153482212
The Brain is canonically Mensis, dawg. The cord Mergo drops states as much. And it's worth nothing that no human has ever successfully became a Great One before the Hunter, and we don't actually know how that's worked because they turned into a squid as opposed to making a meaningful transformation into something Great.

Ebrietas is a badass, man. If she doesn't want you to take her blood it does Frenzy instead of healing. Not to mention she's just generally pretty powerful. I doubt someone below Gerhman levels would put up a challenge for her, let alone be able to use her blood. And the fact that she mourned any Vacuous Spider means she had reason to, showing some relationship before they went brainless.

All Great Ones bleed red. The redder the blood, the stronger the being. Every mention of Paleblood refers to Doll in some way, and aside from the Celestial Emissary she's the only enemy that actually has white blood. I mean shit, Ebrietas's blood is deep red and the Moon Presence has what is essentially cherry syrup through his veins.
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>>153483502
The cord from Mergo only states that it granted Mensis the audience with her, resulting in stillbirth of their brains. Living string states that the brain is something they retrieved from the nightmare
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>tfw fighting Maria for the first time

It was like an even better Bloody Crow of Cainhurst fight, incredibly fun.

Will Gehrman be harder? Maria took me 2 tries but I had to drop my +9 HLMS for a +9 Saw Cleaver just to match her speed.

Since I'm nearing the end of my 100% first run, what should I do in my 2nd?

My 1st character is Strength + Arcane that went LHB > Logarius' Wheel > HLMS and followed glorious Alfred's teachings.

I think I may try the other side of the coin and do a skill / bloodtinge build and become a heretical Vileblood,
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>>153483704
nah gehrman is easier than maria, but hes still a good fight in the same vein as maria.

do it, wash yourself of your filthy executioner ways and bask in the glory of skill weapons
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>>153483670
The Brain was retrieved from the Nightmare, whatever that means in relation to the real world, but that doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't made there. Mensis's goal was, after all, to ascend. They retrieved the Brain from the Nightmare as they wanted, lined with eyes as they wanted, but the brain was rotten, as Mergo did to the Mensisians who made contact with him. It could be summarized then that Mensis recovering the brain was like taking their expedition team back. Especially since 'retrieve' is a word with the specific meaning of taking something back, and these games generally phrase things very carefully. I doubt the word retrieve would've been the one chosen if it wasn't what they meant.
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>>153483502
Living String's description states Mensis retrieved it from the Nightmare and that it is a 'legitimate Great One'. Mensis retrieved it, can't retrieve it if they ARE it. Also, examine its body, it's made of Messengers, just like Winter Lanterns and, curiously enough, the interiors of Crawlers in the poison swamps.

>If she doesn't want you to take her blood it does Frenzy instead of healing
>All Great Ones bleed red

She has a Frenzy attack, but she bleeds white when you attack her. By your logic, wouldn't this imply she's actually relatively weak? Or not a Great One at all?

>Every mention of Paleblood refers to Doll in some way

How so, exactly?

>aside from the Celestial Emissary she's the only enemy that actually has white blood

Brainsuckers have white blood, what's that supposed to mean?
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>>153484396
Doll has white blood too
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>>153484740
>>153484396
Wait never mind I can't read.
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>>153444387
Aw fuck. That sucks.

I wanted to a full playthrough with Gehrman's weapon.

I want to do an ayy lmao playthrough as well, but I'm not sure how tough the DLC is going to be if I tackle it ASAP to get Milkweed and Kos Parasite. I did it endgame my first playthrough.
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>>153485281
They are bullshitting you
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/New+Game+Plus
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>>153485646
Oh shit. Thank goodness.
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Is there a recommended guide for a SL4 run?
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>>153485779
Yeah. Don't get hit.
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>>153484396
>She has a Frenzy attack, but she bleeds white when you attack her.

Her frenzy attack is straight up shooting blood at you. It might be that imbuing her blood with whatever causes frenzy makes it go red, I don't know.

>By your logic, wouldn't this imply she's actually relatively weak? Or not a Great One at all?

I could argue that Ebrietas does seem quite weakened from what surely must've been her heyday, but it's better if I just say I'm wrong. Still, the Moon Presence is the greatest Great One that ever lived and his blood is beyond scarlet.

>How so, exactly?

"Seek paleblood to transcend the hunt" refers to the Doll leveling up hunters by infusing them with Blood Echoes so they can ascend above the role of just beast executioner.

"The Nameless Moon Presence beckoned by Laurence and his associates. Paleblood." could relate to the enemy named Moon Presence, but as I've stated that thing's blood isn't pale, so it can't actually be. In addition the Hunter's Dream isn't its creation, as it stays up even after its death. "Laurence and his associates" obviously refers to Gehrman, who begs Laurence in his sleep to come save him. In addition, Gehrman built the doll, yearning for a friend, and as you know Great Ones are sympathetic and often answer when called to. The description for the doll's tears says it'd be severely naive to cherish something like a doll's tears,and right at the end of the game you become a surrogate child for the doll. It can't be any more obvious that the Doll is what's meant by this note.

"Behold! A Paleblood sky!" and the note from Old Yharnam talking about the Red Moon are interesting, however. The latter implies that the Mensis Ritual has occurred before, which means the former isn't necessarily even for that cycle's so-called paleblood sky. And this... I have no idea about any of this. It doesn't even relate to the named Moon Presence.
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>>153486018
>Still, the Moon Presence is the greatest Great One that ever lived and his blood is beyond scarlet.

My only problem here is what about Oedon, the formless Great One who exists merely as a sound? I always thought Oedon WAS the echoes of blood, Oedon is the thing making you strong. You're not absorbing blood from fallen enemies, you're absorbing the echoes of blood, the sound it makes. Fuck, I don't know, but Oedon is a sound and doesn't have blood, where does that fit in?

Being the surrogate child for the Doll I will absolutely believe, I never thought of that before. But it doesn't quite explain just what Paleblood is in the end. Is it the Great Ones themselves? Their blood? The Doll? The Mensis Ritual? It seems to be left intentionally vague and answer-less, which I like to extent, but it is frustrating. I've always been of the opinion it just refers to, in some way, the Great Ones or something to do with them.
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Alright, /bbg/, I plan to do another playthrough of the game. This time, using the Kos Parasite.
Thing is, I've never done an Arcane build before. Or really, anything other than a Strength build before.

Anybody got any tips for an Arcanine build? What other weapons would you suggest besides the Kos Parasite?

Also, would it be easier to just carry the Kos Parasite onto NG+ or start a NG entirely and get the rune and weapon? My NG+ is a strength build, though, so it might be weird. Then again, NG will require me to go through the DLC to get what I want.
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>>153488246
Here's the guide in the OP.
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>>153487074
If the idea is that Great Ones warp existence itself with their being, like Mergo somehow being a newborn in the modern time despite having been born a very long time ago indeed and people turning into beasts when exposed to Great One blood, then Oedon's existence is perfectly justified. It seems like whatever Eldritch Truth you realize is what gives you your ascension, with merely having the epiphany not being enough. For instance, things designed to pump the eldritch truth into people like the Garden of Eyes and the Winter Lanterns, things that leak it and exude it from every pore, those aren't Great Ones. They know the truth, or at least some of it, but they're not there. But Rom and the Brain of Mensis are Great Ones that don't know the Eldritch Truth on account of being essentially braindead. They might have it in an instinctual level, but they can't grasp it any more than a human can. You need both the eldritch truth and the essence of a Great One's birth, and that seems to dictate what you become. Rom used the Orphan's cord, as far as we know, and became a tool that held the Nightmare in check and prevented reality from crumbling. The Brain, most likely, used Mergo's, and the result was for it to become a mindless weapon. For Oedon to become no less than a concept, a universal force, it had some serious fuckery behind its transformation. Or maybe Oedon is the reason Great Ones come about, and it's not a being but a phenomenon? An unwitting part of the ritual of beckoning a Great One with womb, no less conscious than the Vacuous Spider?
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For Voldemort build, should I use Doll Skirt or Harrowed Leggings? I hate that there's no super flow-y black gown for dudes.
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>>153489716
something something madman garb
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>>153489716
Nevermind, decided on Madman's leggings.
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Is there a single better reason to go Chalice Diving than the skeleton mask?
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>>153490125
Good gems, and fighting the Queen.
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>>153490125
Yes, a whole lot of them
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Quick question

Is it possible to find the crow hunter badge in a chalice dungeon? Another website said it was but gave no further info. I'm on my first play through blind and pretty sure I missed the Eileen NPC quest. I'm almost at Mergo so I'm pretty far through the main story.
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>>153490125
Gems, gems, gems...
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>>153490453
I'm fairly certain that if you at least started the questline, she'll show up in the Grand Cathedral and you can fight her for the badge. The Hunter of Hunters rune, however, can only be obtained by going through her questline in its entirety.
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>>153490594
I checked the Grand Cathedral and she wasn't there, unless I have to travel from a different lantern in order to trigger her. I honestly can't remember if I spoke to her back in Central Yharnam in the beginning of the game or not.

I'm only concerned with the badge right now, ultimately to get the weapons trophy.
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>>153490998
Try looking to the left right as you leave the Cathedral Ward. She should be there looking at the Amygdala.
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>>153491223
Already checked there and she wasn't. I'm going to try spawning at the Cathedral Ward lamp and running up to the Grand Cathedral and seeing if that triggers her.

Like I said I honestly can't remember if I spoke to her to initiate the quest line or not. It was awhile back.
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>>153491407
Have you checked her first spot?
Maybe check Gascoigne's lamp for her fight with Henryk.
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>>153491489
Yep I initially checked her first spot but she wasn't there. I also just ran from the Cath Ward to the Grand Cath and that didn't trigger her. I must have missed the quest completely.

Is there a way to find the badge in a chalice dungeon?

I plan on going NG+ eventually so worse comes to worse I'll just collect all weapons in that game.
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>>153491740
You can get the Uncanny and Lost versions of the Blade of Mercy in the dungeons, but I don't think that will count towards the trophy. Best to just go NG+. Sorry, man.
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This is definitely a dumb question but I'm new

If I have 4 sedatives held but 2 stored, how do I transfer them over? Normally for blood vials they transfer when I travel back to hunters dream but other items don't seem to behave the same.
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>>153492753
Got it. Thanks for the info.
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Why does /bbg/ not have a discord?
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>>153495895
You need to go to your storage and do it manually.
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once you get a blood rock from a root chalice does it respawn if you re-enter the glyph? id like to know before going through 3 layers of ass
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>>153496672
How do I access storage? Sorry if I sound dumb
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>>153497292
next to the workshop station where you can upgrade is a long treasure box, use that and hit r2 to pull things out of it
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>>153497292
No problem at all, friend. In the Hunters Dream your storage box is beside the place where you upgrade weapons. Make sure you're taking out and not putting in.
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>>153496347
You're in the know, right?
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Anyone want to help with bloodletting beast in lower phuterian? Password 3689. I'm right outside the door. Level 143, btw
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>>153497469
>>153497475
I've honest to god never even noticed that box there. Thanks a lot
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>>153498002
Ringing
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>>153410576
That weird purple box around the letters always triggers my OCD.
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>>153498607
Two sec, I went out
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>>153496682
One per chalice per character.
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>>153498607
Still there? Ringing now. Password 3689
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>>153498637
>mfw I made the original

I could never find a proper shade of grey in MS Paint, thank you for fixing this
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Where is the best location to farm twin blood stone shards? Non-chalice if possible.
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>>153499056
All you had to do was use the color select tool.
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>>153498607
Thanks, man!
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>>153499352
No problem
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>>153499260
I did but none of the shades were ever right
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>>153499161
Kill rom, run whatever chalices you need to do then buy them.
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>>153499161
a good place to farm is that first rake dude right after the first trap in forbidden woods, he dropped them regularly without any eye runes on

you can also purchase them after obtaining a certain badge in the upper cathedral ward, which if youre at the forbidden woods anyway you might as well just kill the next two bosses and go get that badge since its not that far from where you are
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>>153499161
enemies in Yahargul
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>>153499579
Why didn't you just set the textbox color to match the background using the color select tool?
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>>153500756
clearly he didnt know about the color dropper thing that just pulls the color off of whatever pixel its on
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Im bored and want to start a NG. Whats a fun build? Any good roleplay builds?
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>>153501514
I'm about to start a Voldemort build if you want to do a Harry one.
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>>153501514
Do the build that was literally based on me and my life
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>>153501929
>>153501929
O god yes, but what stats? What kind of weapon would Arry hoont with?
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>>153502401
Post build
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>>153490453
Where in the main game are you now?
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>>153501076
That's pretty much what I mean when I say color-select tool.
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>>153502567
Waste of Skin (for the memes)

50 Vit
20 end
12 strength (use for Tonitrus before you get parasite, it does extremely good damage in trick form with bolt gems)
8 skill
Base Bloodtinge
50 Arcane

You also get access to really good tools such as Beast roar, accursed Brew, Black Sky Eye, and Executioners Gloves

Wear the Knights garb and Gerhmans pants for the "Literally Me" fashion


you can probably find a better optimized Kos build online
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>>153502486
I'd say the Reiterpallasch to resemble his wand. That's what I'm using for Voldemort. I'm giving Harry more bright colored Tools and the Rosmarinus, while I'll have the Flamesprayer and darker shit (Madara's Whistle, Executioner's Glove, etc)
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>>153502486
>>153503284
Updated Harry's spells.
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>>153503245
nigga please.

>30 vit
>12 end
>10 str
>10 sk
>5 bl
>99 arc

level 117 but still. i can pretty much solo all bosses with the parasite and the hunter tools.

it's a bit overpowered desu, most hunter tools scale well past 50 arc, as does the parasite.
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>>153502486
And this will be mine.
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>>153499161
if you haven't killed Rom yet, then the two Bagmen next to the Hypogean Gaol lamp(which will also give you lots of regular bloodstone shards, and even the occasional Bolt Paper)
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>>153503657
You forgot
>Cruel Fate
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>>153500756
>>153501076
You lads kidding me? I need to get on this shit
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>>153503510
Wouldn't it be better to use Noble Scion than Cruel Fate if you are going ARC/blt?
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>>153504235
yep

>>153504397
what the hell? Arcane and bloodtinge?

U fkOn w0t m8?
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>>153504397
I'm not going ARC/BLT
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>>153504485
>>153504519
>Reiterpallasch
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>>153504519
If you are doing a Voldemort build you HAVE to use the Madras Whistle, giant snakes are one his defining character traits.
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>>153504620
>A SKL; B ARC; D BLT

>>153505240
I am, but I'm not dumping all my points into BLT for one Tool, and then have to grind for BLT gems.
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What did the Good Hunter need a blood transfusion for in the first place?

Did he get into an accident? Did he have a run-in with some beasts?
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>>153505719
>B ARC
Where the hell is this coming from? It has no Arc scaling.
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>>153505719
First of all the Rieterpallache's arc scaling Litterally never get used. You can convert it with elemental gems.

Secondly BLT gems are only hard to farm for if you are going full Korea and want 32.6%'s. 27% gems from the Watchers will work fine and are easier to get.

Getting decent Arc gems is a pain since it either terrible droprates or farming Layer 3 bosses which are annoying to kill. Skill and BLT are the easiest things to gem for, with alternative gems that are better (Thrust gems for Church Pick, offshapes for BLT) if you want them.
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>>153506335
I don't think you can convert Reiter with arc or elemental gems, because of the tricked form's blood damage.
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>just got a ps4+bb during a fortunate sale
>want to experience the full bb experience
>do not want to pay for sonybox life after having paid for xbox live for several years before realizing what a scam that shit is
Any tricks or do i need to pay?
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>>153507216
You need to pay, unfortunately. You're not missing out on anything that will take away from the core game, but coop and pvp are of course not possible.

Now shoo so you're not spoiled.
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>>153505908
Had some sort of illness, went to Yharnam for treatment
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>>153507414
K. Thanks.
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>>153507216
just pay for it, it's not that expensive and you get a couple free games each month for doing it, so I'd say it's worth it
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>>153506015
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Reiterpallasch
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>>153508061
Anon, all non-arc weapons have a "D" in arc scaling but that doesn't actually mean they do any arc damage.
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YOU ARE A FOOL, HARRY POTTER

>>153508224
The points I put into ARC are for the Tools
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What if there was a way you didn't have to kill a good and caring daddy?
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>>153490125
>Liking anything from the Bone Ash set
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POST YOUR GEHRMAN ART
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>>153509390
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>tfw you beat Defiled Amygdala in three tries.

Get fucking rekt, kiddo. I don't know why I was so scared of this thing, just hit the arms.
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Voldemort run is starting out alright.

About to fight Gascoigne if anybody wants to hop in.

Pw: tomriddl
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>>153512415
Do you mind me being over-leveled? I'm 55.
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>>153505719
You can get the min reqs for the Reiter sooner using Noble Scion rather than Cruel Fate for an Arc Build
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Would anyone be interested in doing an experiment with me?

> AIM
To get a fucking 28% Physical gem

> HYPOTHESIS
Yeah, maybe.

> MATARIALS
- a ps4
- Bloodborne
- a coop partner
- an FRC Isz Dungeon with Watchers as first boss
- a Laberyth rite keeper in the layer 1 main room
- Beast roar, a broken +1 Hunters Axe and other non-hurty ways of moving an enemy

> METHOD
Watchers drop rating 19 gems at best. Ritekeepers have a special aura ability which buffs nearby enemies with a red glow. This red glow gives boosted stats and causes all gems that are dropped to be +1 rarity. By using beast roar and a broken +1 Hunters axe my aim to have a cooperator push the rite keeper up against the fog wall of the bossroom while the host fights the Watchers. Kiting them over to the door. Hopefully the Ritekeeper does his buff ability (which does go through walls) and buffs the Watchers. This will hopefully cause them to drop 18-20 rating gems instead of 17-19. Once we have a 28% Tempering (or even better a 34% Adept) we will be hero's to the Bloodborne community.

> RESULTS
not yet

> CONCLUSION
hopefully good
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Is it just me or is The One Reborn REALLY fucking easy?
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>>153514397
One Reborn is really easy. A shame, because the atmosphere and OST are top-tier.
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>>153514735
Yeah I agree, they did an amazing fucking job setting that up, it just wasn't a challenging fight.
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>>153513676
Does no one want to make history?
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>>153513139
I don't mind much. I'm at the first Old Yharnam lamp. Being yer ringin'.
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>>153515089
Sorry anon, the lower chalices are 2hard4me and pve is still too fun to have any FRCs unlocked.

But godspeed, you'll find someone.
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>>153515128
Just got there
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I'm a clumsy sob, but I tried. Just give the word if you wanna keep going
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>>153515128
>>153515515
Sorry for the absence, was eating,
Going to the witches now. Ring your bells at the charnel lane bf.
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>>153517621
Got ya
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Ringadingin
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>>153517621
Can i join as well?
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Lets try that again
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>dog two-shots me
I AM NOT STRONG ENOUGH YET MY FRIENDS

RERING YOUR DARK MARKS
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>>153518878
We shouldn't have left ye. You wanna ring again?
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Is the AmygdalArm any good? Don't see it very often in PVP but it looks fun. Reminds me of OoK's yoyo afterbirth.
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Eddie, do you have all three Moon runes equipped? I was getting almost 3k from each mob you killed.

Ring your bells at the Ward, my beautiful Death Eaters.
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>>153519115
I have no idea but it's one of the DLC weapons I'm most looking forward to fucking around with.
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Dab City.

I have to be at work around 10, so I'm still good to play
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>>153519561
Ringing

And nope, Thats just how much the enemies tend to drop.
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>>153519115
It's not super strong, but it's very fun to use and has some really good range. The tricked charged R2 actually does three hits.
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>"Thank you, mister hunter. I love you as much as mum and dad, and granddad!"
Fucking adorable. Wait till she finds out mum and dad are dead.
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>>153519561
Ringing

>>153520051
You killed a good and caring daddy
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God damn it.
Reringing.
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>>153520051
Wait till you find out the pig in the sewers kills her too
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>>153520239
Cmon nig im already at vicar. Well sortof. Just opened the gate outside cathedral ward
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Ring your dark marks at the Forbidden Woods lamp, my Eaters.
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>>153520719
Lol I was there to see how many Vermin I've crushed
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Ring a linging
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>Harry Potter avatarfagging
Jesus Christ this thread has fallen far
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>>153522337
On the one side, the true He Who Shan't Be Named of this thread has finally fucked off.

On the other, now there's this autist.

Putting it into perspective that way, it doesn't seem nearly as bad.
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>>153522337
Well no one wanted to help me discover blood gems the likes of which were thought impossible. So instead we have this.

You chose your fate.
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>>153522497
I miss Lucifer, honestly. People getting triggered by him kept the thread active.

>>153522519
Kill yourself.
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>>153522650
>I miss Lucifer
end yourself
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>>153522650
>I miss Lucifer

Jesus Christ, I think you're the one that should consider suicide. We're separate from /dsg/ to get away from the shitposting.
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>Voldemort cosplay co-op fun is autsim

Okay Death Eaters.
I'm going to grab the summons so that I may finally obtain my [wand]. You many begin ringing your bells at the first Cainhurst lamp within the next few minutes.
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>>153522847
Harry Potter is autism.
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>>153522801
And look at how well that goes! These threads are nothing but shitposting and people asking for help.

There hasn't been a meaningful lore discussion since January.
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>>153522847
Aww shit Cainhurst. I've been completely neglecting Arcane, but I only need one more level to be able to use items.
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>>153522337
Barely, that king poster faggot fucked off, too. Someone's been co-oping with a meme character, who cares?
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>>153513676
Try reddit, not even being cheeky.
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>>153522950
>Meaningful lore discussion
Iosefka is a Vileblood, Yharnam is a nightmare, Eileen is the Wet Nurse, Doll is Oedon.
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I think the worst part of starting a new game with a build in mind is figuring out exactly how you're going to ration out your blood echoes towards your skills.

Fuck, I'm trying to balance between Arcane, Strength, Vitality, and Endurance and I'm tearing my hair out.
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>>153522950
Clearly you haven't been here for a few months, or you're just being a contrarian for the sake of activity which isn't really necessary, we're serving one game on one console here
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>>153523101
I've been here since December, I took a break for a week. It's been shit here for months.
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>>153523078
I never mind that so much, just once you have the numbers in mind, it doesn't matter terribly how you get there, you just need to get there
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>>153523078
50 vit 15 end 50/25 split between str and arc favoring whichever you prefer.

boom you have a good build.
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>>153523137
And you're improving the situation so much!
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>>153523301
Thanks, honey. I try.
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Eddie (I think I saw his ghost) and I are at Cainhurst
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>>153523359
No worries, love.
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>>153523746
Heading there now. Was trying to get the Madara's Whistle NPC to spawn but no luck.
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>>153523018
Yeah I post on /r/Bloodborne quite a bit, as do a lot of bbg regulars judging by that one guy who had a build stop at 98 and didn't want to say why and half the comments were people saying they knew why. im the autist who does page long maths equations when someone asks what gems are optimal, hoping (in vain) that they now won't have to ask again because they can work it out.

I managed to get the rite keeper to the door. With 2 people it will be easy to keep him there and (hopefully) buff the Watchers. I'll make a reddit thread soon, bbg ain't getting a mention in noble prize of Blood Gems acceptance speech though.
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Fugg
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ARGH!
SCREECHING WENCHES!

I'll ring at the library
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My goodness this thread has fallen on hard, hard times
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>the discord(superior to these shit threads) removed from the OP because of butthurt autismal cucks
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>all these newfags in the thread
>none of them come to the fcs
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>greentext
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>>153525421
>meme arrows
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>>153525386
The Discord was never in the OP.
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>>153525386
Fuck off, the discords full of traps who don't even FC anymore. Sooner that shit dies the better.
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Discord is shitting up the thread again posing as avatarfags
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Does anyone want to go through the Nightmare Frontier with me?
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>>153525265
>>153525386
>>153525392
>>153525421
>>>/dsg/
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>>153525525
If no one in the Discord FCs
And no one in the thread FCs
Then who am I fighting every week on Saturday?
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Anywhere else you want to go?

>>153525546
I suppose I could if the current person I've been helping no longer needs/wants help.
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is the online ded for this game?
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>>153525825
Far from it actually
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>>153525918
then why is nobody answering my beckoning bell ;_;
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>>153525674
just me on different builds
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>>153525825
yeah. I spent 2 hours waiting for a bell at the Ludwig fog at level 60
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>>153525739
nice.
i'll set pass to bbg123 and ring in a moment. I want a sure answer before going because you know
it's the nightmare frontier
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>>153525983
What level are you and what area are you in?
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>>153525392
>FC
>On Wednesday/Thursday

nigga what
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Excellent. I can now cast hunter tool spells.

Let us proceed to Byrgenwerth.
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>>153526104
Are you retarded? I was referring to Saturdays.
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>>153526104
they don't show on saturdays dingus dick
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>>153526076
28, blood starved beast. right in front of the church
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>>153526110
I'm going to help >>153526068 since I only have an hour before work. You have eddie, you should be okay.
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>>153526163
If you want randoms for BSB you're gonna have to ring at the lamp.
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What the fuck happened to this thread. It used to be like the old cozy Demon's Souls threads on /v/ and now it's nothing but avatar posting and PvE babies not participating in any fight clubs we have going. The online for the game may be alive but /bbg/ is truly a dead place.
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>>153526154
>>153526162
It's that other dude who wants FCs not me.

I'm too busy doing some farming to attend FCs anyway.
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>>153526163
if that was one of you niggas who helped me, thanks
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>>153526359
Also one of you fucks admitted to posting on the subreddit I mean fucking hell no wonder this place has fallen to what it has.
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>>153526068
I just got to the Frontier lamp. Sadly I just got invaded.
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Oookay, after an exchange of gestures the invader killed himself. So again, still ringing at the lamp.
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>>153526375
Farming for what? Gems?

What will you do after you get gems?
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>>153526359
>One guy "avatar posts" in relation to an ongoing cosplay-summon-run
>On a regular weekday (which were slow, even before)
>"bbg is ded. and it's everyone else's fault!"

As if that wasn't said a thusand times this year already
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>>153526607
Yep, it'll do that. Alright, I'm going to ring.
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Is this supposed to be /bbg/? How the fuck did it die?
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>>153526809
You're implying that these fucks in the thread turn up to FC's which were the main thing keeping this place alive.

>It will never go back to the times of comfy FRC spelunking with the lads
>It will never go back to the times of an fc with more than 4 people turning up a week

R I P
I
P
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>>153527067
>FC's
When do you guys do that shit again?
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>>153527209
Do you people just not read the OP anymore?
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>>153527209
6PM EST every Saturday
It's in the OP of every thread but of course no one reads the fucking OP
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Well that was just generally shameful.

I'll ring again.
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>>153527267
>anymore
I never did to begin with. It's tl;dr
>>153527283
Thank you but see above.
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>>153527478
>It's TL;DR
Senpai it's one of the shortest OP's around if you can't be bothered reading it at least fucking once why even bother coming here.
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>>153527552
Tbqhwy family, I just don't normally give the OP's of these threads any thought. That's all. I kinda forget they're even there.
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>>153527552
if it pisses you off so much why even respond, let him figure the fight clubs out on his own. spoon feeders like you are just newfag enablers
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Alright Eddie, it's just you and me.

Ringing at Unseen Village.
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>>153527659
The thing is that the FC needs newfags.
There are like 4 of us and 3 of us are 'tinge fags. We need some variety.
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>>153527659
Hold up so what do I do let the FC's die because people are blind to the OP and need to be fucking reminded or do you not enable the Newfags because Muh Skerit Club xddd
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>>153527659
>ebin troll man XD
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For the love of God if we can drive Lucy away, stop responding to Le Ded General Man, we know better than this
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>>153527668
sadly i can't
i gotta go real soon
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Emma? We're standing outside Amygdala's door.
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>>153527870
NNNYAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHH-
Alright. Thanks for the help, man. You rock.
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>>153527757
>>153527769
FC is doomed, anyone still in the fight clubs is probably pretty good at the game, so any newfags who just bought the game and come to the thread thinking "oh flght club, that sounds fun" are going to try it, get stomped like three times, and quit.
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So does giving the doll the hair ornament doing anything besides the unique dialogue? I hope for more every playthrough but nothing ;_;
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>>153528051
If gives you a tear stone which is 10/10 disrespect to pop over the top of someones corpse in PvP.
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>>153527978
There's usually like 3-4 regulars so if more newfags join than usual they can duke it out with eachother.
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>>153527978
Most of them aren't though. As long as you haven't been retarded with your build and have a basic understanding of pvp, you should get by okay.
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>>153527978
If they don't turn up they ain't gonna get any better at the game
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Thanks Emma/Eddie.
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>>153528170
>if they don't come to our ded fight club they'll never be able to git gud at the ded pvp
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>>153527978
You should probably give Souls players a little more credit than that desu. That kind of attitude wouldn't get a person past Gascoigne.
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>>153527978
>implying the regulars are good
We have an End build
A shitty Arc/Blt build
A shitty 40/40 Skl/Blt build
And a 'tinge fag whose only trick is to roll catch with the 'letter.

We're not some sekrit club masters over here family/
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>>153528329
>If they don't show up to a weekly event for an already dead general then the PvE babs you play with will just move off to another game
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>>153528329
Please just show up to our dead fight club

You can only stomach so many chikage mirrors before you want to put a silver bullet in your brain
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>>153528087
Oh yeah forgot about that. And thats hilarious. Sadly you could only do that once per playthrough
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So I'll post from my phone since my laptop is shitting itself.

Anyway, sorry for not being any help this time around, I need to get ready for work. If you want to play tomorrow, I'll be free though.
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>>153528413
You also have a shitstain that uses a reiter turtle
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>>153528413
>End build isn't described as shitty
BRING BACK Tony
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>>153528413
>End build
What the fuck does this even mean?
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>>153528252
Ed was the only real help to you. I died to a giant.
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>>153528786
I should just save the screenshot of his stats because it keeps coming up.

I'm sure someone else has it.
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>>153528786
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>>153528786
what do you think it means
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>>153528962
>9 Vitality

This is pretty fucking impressive actually but has he ever killed another player?
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>>153528650
Soon.
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>>153529068
He has and honestly that build would be horrifying in the hands of a better player. Infinite dodges and wheel dash spam isn't anything to laugh at.
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>>153529068
Yes, I have. I'll convert the webms tomorrow.

>>153528962
Never save my shit again.
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>>153529068
He has. They don't take him seriously so he occasionally gets one up and lands a kill.
He's also a dashr1 wheelfag but with that little vit, nobody cares
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>>153529181
2layte
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>>153529181
>Your shit
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>>153529384
How many screenshots have you taken with the HUD on and why is it all but like 3?
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My current stats are 35 Vit, 16 End, 39 Str, 25 Skill, 12 Blt, and 10 Arc.

I only did the last two so I could fuck off a little with weapons that had those as prereqs. Future points will be going into Vit and Str. Pls r8.
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>>153529421
Don't give enough of a shit to take it off most times
Also people are faggots who move constantly when you try to take their picture so you take what you can get
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>>153529516
Fine/10. Get vit and str to 50 each and you'll be looking good
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>>153522650
Hi, Lucifer
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>>153529760
Nice, thanks. I'm glad I asked /gsg/ about the caps. I'm sure without that knowledge my character would make a lot less sense.
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>>153529516
Endurance is painfully low
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>>153529983
15 is fine unless you're shit or using HMLS
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>>153530047
The meta has always been 50 END
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I love the idea of Alfred killing himself because it involves him trying to wheel himself to death
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>>153530130
l i t e r a l l y n e v e r
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>>153529983
>>153530047
I sometimes wish I had a little more but not as badly as I want more health and attack.
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>>153530281
l i t e r a l l y s i n c e d a y o n e y o u c u c k t i s t
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>>153530320
Just get endurance runes, they'll cover you just fine
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>>153530163
Kek!
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>>153530047
What's good END for HMLS?
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How many clawmarks does it take to one shot lets say a 120 with 50 vit?
Assume i have 50 skl and 27.2% gems.
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>>153530626
Lurking for an answer to this.
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>>153530626
Between zero and one. Viscerals usually oneshot in pvp with high skill, but it might depend on who's hosting/invading.
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>>153530626
zero for an invader, 1 for a host, 50 skill does a lot
webm is 25str/50skl with 3 27s
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>>153530937
>Healing in PVP
shitter
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>>153530991
>he can't heal parry
',:^)
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>>153531067
>Being so bad that you actually have to heal
get good
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>>153531114
>Just don't get hit

Epic
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>>153530991
I haven't done any PvP at all yet but is this general etiquette not to heal? Or is it just a /gsg/ thing for Fight Club? Like if some random faggot invades me should I not heal and expect that he won't either?
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>>153531162
Hey, if you're so bad you have to worry about death, it's okay. Just know that I'm going to parry your babby heal and humiliate you
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>>153531170
no healing is an fc rule for the same reason the health cut is a rule, the host will always heal more because of the hp advantage
I always expect people heal but I don't use the first vial because it's shameful desu
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>>153531240
Look forward to it.

Also look forward to you using deep respect and finding a perfectly flat ground to have a shitty respectable 1v1 on.

>Invade someone
>Expect them to have some honorable duel
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>>153531170
>/gsg/ thing
t. rob

But at least in fight clubs, healing is a no-go. If you're invading or get invaded, try to not, but if they do I say it's fine.
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>>153531287
Sounds reasonable.
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>>153520051
>>153520297
man I feel like a right ass for sending her to Iosefka's, but honestly between that and her getting eaten by a pig, the former felt slightly better(plus I wanted the Rune her as an Ayy-Lmao drops)

really wish they had an option that didn't result in terrible things happening to them, same with most of the other NPC's(RIP Gilbert)

>>153528051
I'd say the dialogue is more than worth it

>>153530163
well he also has a Kirkhammer, so more likely he used the sword from that(also I think he uses Throwing Knives too, so he might have used that instead), also RIP Alfred(why do most of the NPC's have to be so likable and then meet horrid ends?)
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>>153531352
Kek shit. I'm aware that there's at least one other /gsg/ autist in here so that must be Rob. I'm not Rob.
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>die to a dog because lolfuckyourhitbox
>die to a regular beast enemy on the way back to my bloodstain because lolcamera
>300k down the drain
Way to completely fucking kill my mood for playing this game.
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>>153531837
K
>>
so what would you guys say the hardest Hunter Fights(not counting Fight Clubs or outright bosses) are that you've encountered so far, for me it's the following three;

1.) Bloody Crow(still haven't beaten him)

2.) two Invaders I ran into when I first went to the Nightmare Frontier(managed to kill them)

3.) that Rifle Spear hunter to the right of the Grand Cathedral(the Tonritus hunter was really easy in comparison)


admittedly I'm only just past Rom and haven't really done much PVP outside of the Invaders I mentioned above
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>>153532267
>Rifle Spear hunter
Is that the fucking twat who keeps back dashing? He was a pain in the ass, dude.

The three of them in Yahar'gul are pretty hard. Not sure if you've gotten to them or not.
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>>153532267
those are basically the only npcs you fight until you get to the last area of the dlc and the invasions there are a joke
bloody crow is easily the hardest, but the trio in yahargul are super annoying to fight if the ai isn't shitting itself and the riflespear guy is constantly cannonng you
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>>153532267
Crowsteel would be top of the list for NPC hunter fights by far. The ganksquad can also be tough but they can technically be avoided plus they can be singled off and 1v1'd where they're a lot less threatening.
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>>153532267
>>153532451
I killed the Bloody Crow on the first try but I think I was a little bit over level. He was still fucking tough.
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>>153532560
Ganksquad?
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>>153531837
>kill Old One
>he releases his acid shit all over the arena just as he dies and it kills me
>get his Moon'd echoes
>die from a whiffed parry right before I could get back to the arena

OH MY FUCKING GOD IT KEEPS HAPPENING FUCKING KILL ME PLEASE GOD RELEASE ME FROM THIS UNENDING ANGUISH
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>>153532609
There's not really a right time to verse Crowsteel. People have beaten him at all sorts of levels. I just do it straight after Rom usually though to get the crow gear.

>>153532714
You'll find out soon enough
>>
I haven't played the game in a full year but want to finally get through the DLC in the next few weeks.

Problematically, I started NG+ on my favorite build and then stopped playing because everything was a boring health sponge.
I've tried everything I thought was fun, don't know anything about what's changed in the year or what DLC adds.

So go through NG+ and the DLC on my main or are there more interesting options now for new builds?

I like high-risk, high-reward playstyles, but haven't built around Ludwig's yet.
>>
So Emma Sheen here. It turns out I don't work tonight so I can bumble my way through some areas with people if they like.

Also I probably shouldn't have went for this character. The facr is easy bit there aren't any armor pieces resembling anything from the Universal Century.

I wanna do a Dark Knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail since I have the helmet for it.
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>>153533192
Voldemort here.
>>153531837
>>153532842


I'm gonna need some help through Nightmare.
I'll be ringing at the first lecture building lamp.
Pw's the same.
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>>153533192
>>153533314
Nevermind, I can't ring in the Lecture Building.
I'll ring at Nightmare of Mensis.
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>>153533192
>trying to cosplay a mecha space opera character in a gothic/cosmic horror game

You are my hero, senpai.
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>>153533486
Haven't gotten there yet senpai.

>>153533514
When I booted up the game for the first time I thought, 'why not recreate a character you like'. Emma was really easy to do the face for, but I very clearly didn't think things through.
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>>153532928
>You'll find out soon enough
I doubt they're called that in game so who? Is it the three in Yahar'gul?
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>>153533906
I assume he means them, but honestly these games tend to involve copious ganking anyway.
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>is bloodtinge still OP
>is skill still >>>>> strength
>is arcane still fucking garbage
>is NG+ still just massive HP pools or does it have new/actually difficult content
>is meta 150 or whatever
>are chalice dungeons still fucking grindfests for max gems that dont do shit on NG+
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>>153534961
> is BLT still OP
Yes
> is skill still >>> strength
No, DLC added more STR weapons that are god-tier and Heavy Gems got buffed so now you can turn any weapon into an S scaling STR weapon
> Is NG+ still just big HP pools
It was rebalanced over a year ago, no idea what they changed though. No different enemy layouts though, which sucks.
> is meta 150
No, unless you are a shitter who can't handle making sacrifices for a build. 98 is our meta, but anywhere between 80-120 is fine depending on where you want to PVP
> are Chalice's still grindfests for gems that don't do shit on NG+
Yes, grind is as bad as ever. But you get fuckloads of chunks and sometimes rocks while you do it now. And I don't know what you are smoking but chalice gems are overkill for ever the highest of NG cycles. If you get a set of 27%s before you start NG+ it will be horribly easy.
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>>153534961
Whoops forgot one

> is arcane still garbage
No, all spells got buffed for better damage and lowered bullet costs. Plus arcane gemmed weapons were always good and DLC added a dedicated Ayy-lmao weapon. Plus Cold gems got buffed like Heavy ones. So any weapon can now be S scaling in Arcane.
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>>153526779
Get more Gems!!!
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS!!!!!

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>summon a random
>he dies immediately

It's so very easy to get killed in this game
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>>153535824
>>153536029
Changes to STR and Arcane are good to know.
I have full 27% gems and remember NG+ just being a hassle, but that was a year ago.

I have a few incomplete builds and I'm not sure which one to pick up for the DLC or PvP if I like the game again.
Main is lvl 70, 30skill30str
one is at 87, 16 str, 34 skill, 25 bloodtinge
another is 84, I think 16/16 with 40 arcane

none are min/maxed obviously, mostly just trying out as many weapons/combinations that were available at the time.

I think the 30/30 was most fun, BLT good for PvP/katana but otherwise meh (except for cannon but that's been nerfed).

Hated the arcane playthrough.
Want to avoid grinding for gems but maybe tolerable if new items are fun.
>>
Holy shit man, Living Failures was way more intense than I thought it'd be. They look like the giants from Majora's Mask and are basically just shittier Celestial Emissaries, but that fight was fantastic. Not even Ludwig got my heart pumping as fast as they did the first time they cast Meteor and the entire arena became the Cosmos. I can't believe a multiple boss enemy was finally made as good as a single enemy boss.
>>
What's the difference between the Church Cannon and the normal Cannon? Which should I build towards?
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>>153529516
Get Arc to 15 for them Tools m8.
>>
Why does everyone else despise the Bloodborne in PvP so much? The gem grind is certainly a barrier for dedicated FCs, but in invasions you can do just fine without the best gems.

It's honestly the only PvP in the series where I feel like I'm doing more than spamming R1, roll+R1, or backstab fishing.
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>>153529907
/gsg/?
>>
>>153537074
Church Cannon from my understanding fires in an arc, costs slightly less in terms of Bullets(although both it and the cannon are way too expensive in that regard to be anything more than a gimmick in my opinion), and I think it does slightly less damage

>>153537117
I dislike the PvP because of how they ended up balancing player content around it(like the costs for the Cannons) instead of PvE
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Recently started to make a character who's got all their weapons at +10. Is it worth it for firearms? or is +9 fine?
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>>153537471
+10 isn't necessary for firearms unless you're running a bloodtinge build or if you really have nothing else to spend the blood rocks on.
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>>153537516
Okie dokie!

Decided to fully upgrade my character as best as I could as for future PVP or if anyone gets Bloodborne and wants my help.
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>>153531534
What the hell is /GSG/?
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>>153537762
Grand Strategy General.

Also known as the reason why quiet, comfy threads are superior to highly active ones.
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>>153536868
All the Arcane weapons are beyond fun. It's definitely worth the gem grind to be able to use them in PVP.
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>>153533192
You should've done Sayla Mass instead.

>>153536868
You don't like fun 99Arc Hunter Tool shenanigans?
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>>153537876
Are any of the weapons fast-paced? Similar to blades of mercy? Or something like the burial blade?

I could pick up the 16/28/40 arc character if arcane has changed that much. Sitting on +8 BoM, +8 Ludwigs, +10 Tonitrus but I'm sick of that fucking Tonitrus.

>>153538030
When I played, the hunter tools were garbage at 40 for the cast time to damage + bullet costs. Smacked things around with the lightning mace which got stale fast.

I wanted to be a cosmic space wizard assassin, but the weapons available and tool-balance was garbo back in the day. Are my dreams no longer just dreams?

also what is the Vit/End meta at level 98?

I'm annoyed the cannon was nerfed so hard. I went to 30 STR because of how much fun it was.
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>>153538187
The ayylmao weapon from the DLC is pretty quick, and the rune that goes along with it makes you into an ayylmao.

The Holy Moonlight Sword is also in the game now from the first DLC boss, entirely worth building Arcane for, probably one of the most fun weapons and one of the best weapons.
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>>153537291
> cannons were balanced for PVP

No. They wernt. Cannons need at max 2 shots to kill anyone in PVP. The bullet cost is irrelivemt. They need to cost as much as they do because From doesn't want you obliterating bosses with ranged attacks.

If you are the same guy who wanted cannon to cost 5 bullets: just think about how broken that would be. You'd be able to destroy Amy and Eribritas with 0 effort. In fact you still can, you just need to equip specific runes to do it. Cannons were never meant to be used on regular enemies. It's meant to be a last resort against "gigantic foes".

If you suggest "reduce cost but make them un-buffable": no that's not an answer either. What you are asking for isn't changed cannons, it's a mid-class of weapons that fit somewhere between repeating Pistol and Cannon. Which I agree is a niche that should be filled. A BLT equivilent of executioner gloves.
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>>153537853
So it' i-/pol/ mini?

>>153538187
>Are any of the weapons fast-paced? Similar to blades of mercy? Or something like the burial blade?
You can convert Rakuyo into an Arc weapon

>When I played, the hunter tools were garbage at 40 for the cast time to damage + bullet costs. Smacked things around with the lightning mace which got stale fast.
>40 Arc
Well there's your first problem
The first softcap is 25 then at 50, why'd you stop at 40 when all you needed to reach the 2nd softcap is just another 10pts?

Bullet costs can be mitigated by using the Oedon Writhe Rune since it gives you free bullets when to Visceral
Or Formless Oedon which ups your Bullet Cap

Vit is as high as you want
End is negligible because of Stamina runes
You can make due of base End using Cruel Fate alone
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>>153538187
Well, you can do respectable damage with your fists, so I guess that's pretty quick. The cosmic broccoli mode is pretty fast as well, and the Holy Moonlight Sword is about as fast as the transformed LHB.
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>>153538030
The Deikuns are all nutty anon.
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>>153538187
Hunter Tools scale weirdly. If you want them to be good as primary damage dealers you want 70 or even 99 Arcane.

Augur of Eribritis can party and backstab now as well, in addition to hitting with the same impact force as Hunters Axe spin2win, so it's really fucking good even if it does no damage. At 70 arc it does ~400 damage to Mericless Watchers.
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>>153538442
>/pol/ mini?
Yes, basically /int/-/pol/ but with added drama between various shitposting groups and modders.

>>153538361
>mid-class weapon
I've always wanted something like this. I was rather disappointed when I found there wasn't any sort of longer-ranged musket, not even the Piercing Rifle really fills that niche because the damage is still bad. Would be tough to balance but I could see it working.

But it'll never happen because Fromsoft has abandoned the dream.
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>>153538679
Peircing rifle should have cost 3 bullets and had a slightly slower reload, whilst having much higher BLT scaling (Evelyn tier) and triple the range it does now.
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>>153538851
That's pretty much what I was thinking, yes.
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>>153538352
>Moonlight Sword
that's all you needed to say, I'm going Arcane.

>>153538442
Don't know what Rakuyo is or how to convert weapons (if i recall, through gems like bolt attack).
I remember arcane not being viable because that gem slot was wasted

>40 arc
Left the build incomplete. Specifically I was looking for combinations for arcane or niche build possibilities. This was near launch so arcane wasn't even close to worth it when skill/BT was so much more effective in every way. At the time, arcane really didn't offer anything except the teslaballonastick or weapons with bolt attack (again, wasted gem slot).

>>153538673
>70 or 99
That much investment doesn't seem even close to viable. Is it?


In any case, I figure I'm rolling a new character given what I've got.

I'll build skill/Arcane, drop some endurance for STR to meet the bare minimum for Burial Blade if I can't get over not using it.

Fucking dungeons though.
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>>153539125
Burial isn't suitable for an Arc build even if it does have marginal Arc scaling

You can't even put Arc gems on it
Same with Blades of Mercy and Amygdala Arm

Rakuyo is like a super BoM but it's pure physical so it's convertible to an Arc weapon
Any Physical weapon that isn't split damage can be converted

If you really want to do an Arc build you can read the guide in the OP
Just remember to use Lost version of your weapons
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>>153538606
I wanna make a Char cosplay
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>>153539895
I want zeeks to go and stay go.
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>>153539820
I figured 40/40 on skill/arcane would mean getting good use out of the BB.
First to admit I don't know anything about efficient point distribution anymore, especially where arcane is concerned.

Let's say I want to build for Rakuyo, Moonlight Sword, and /most/ of the hunter tools, what should I aim for at level 98 total?

Guide was really helpful, thanks for the headsup.

also hey we figured out beasthood, that's awesome
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>>153539935
You could see Newtypes as the people who are blessed with insight.

None of them are what you'd call stable, much like the looneys who thirst for eyes.
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So I just got the wheel and I want to smash and bash and grind out impurity. This is normal right?
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>>153540331
I recommend doing Moonligh/Wheel at 25Str/50Arc and either 15 or 20End and get some Stamina runes

Vit can be anything you want
leave Bloodtinge alone
Start at Cruel Fate

For Gems use Nourishings

>>153540595
Yeah, pretty much
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Is there any chance the DLC goes on sale anytime soon? Has it ever?
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>>153540936
GOTY edition goes on sale often, buy that
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>>153540623
The skeleton wheel thing? Is that good now?
I never liked its moveset but it was a fun gimmick.

I'd like to try out the STR weapons but I don't know that I want 25 STR.
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>>153541540
Where the hell have you been since DLC? Under a rock or something?

You do know that there had been a ton of patches since BB's release right?
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Shit meant to post this.
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>>153541728
I played a ton when the game launched, then lost interest and was busy. When DLC came out I didn't know if I wanted to get back into it given my time constraints and where I was with my characters.

so yeah I haven't kept up with balance changes for over a year.
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>>153542001
Wow that's a lot of catching up to do then.

Balance changes are in the OP as well.
First line even.
Go read it now if you are still reading this.

Good luck
You're gonna need it
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>trying to help randoms with Rom
>get memed on by ice rain
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>>153542116
Yeah I've read a few patch notes while working the character creator, too much information.

If Arcane works now and the tools are actually useful, then all I want to know is if I can effectively do skill/arcane in PvP or if I'll get instagibbed by skill BT builds. I also want to play around with new STR weapons if they're fun. I might even overlevel and then minmax my next character.
>>
Anyone need some co-op?
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>>153542362
Main story or chalice?
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>>153542636
Executioner Gloves, Black Sky Eye and A Call Beyond can easily melt bosses with high Arc
Most arcane tools scale all the way to the 99 limit too

If you are doing Skill/Arc then use some Visceral Caryll Runes that heal and give you bullets for Tools
Namely the Blood Rapture and Oedon Writhe
You could just search the net on how to get the tier 3s
Best Skl weapon is said to be the Saif but Church Pick is also awesome especially with Thrust gems

Not much on Skl/Blt nowadays
Most are Str/BLT because of the Bloodletter which is a Mace weapon that transforms into a Giant Blood Morning Star

The only really hard thing to do is getting perfect gems but that's more like a tedious grind than actual challenge
Getting coop helps a lot

Shit I need sleep
I'm starting to see eyes
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>>153543553
Main story. I was just being an idjit is all.
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>>153543609
>bloodletter
That sounds fucking amazing.

Maybe I should just overlevel.
But then I'll lose interest in grinding out a new playthrough for PvP. Damn.
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Is anybody willing to savescum for me?
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About to fight the Orphan, if anyone wants to join in.

Password: tomriddl
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I am the edge.
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>>153544717
Ringing now.
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>>153544717
>>153544843
Actually never mind, my internet is shitting itself. Won't be any fun with 750 ping.
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>>153544825
Needs an oriental weapon

>>153544969
>doesn't want teleporting bosses
>>
About to run out of bullets and vials.
Somebody please come help at Orphan.
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>>153545645
I would but I literally bought the dlc like half an hour ago
>>
How many of you have played Nioh? The demo is great and actually revitalized my interest in bloodborne.
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>>153545980
It was ok, but not amazing.

Same as you, it just inspired me to play more Bloodborne.
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>>153546106
I thought the combat system had more depth than bloodborne's, which is saying something.
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>>153546575
You know how you can partially regain lost stamina in Nioh? I wonder how busted stamina rally would be in BB.
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>started a character from scratch and defeated all main-game and DLC bosses in one sitting
I can finally sleep...
Goodnight, /bbg/.
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>>153547332
Damn son. I move through these games at a glacial pace myself.

Also I learned upon getting to work last night, I wasn't expecting to be there, so that was neat.
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>>153547637
>expecting
I mean expected. So I actually had the night off.
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Hey /bbg/ i just got the red brooche from the little girls mother, but i feel like something bad's gonna happen if i give it. Help me /bbg/ ive grown attached to that little girl
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>>153547781
Sit in front of her house to save her from the scourge of beasts.
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>>153547781
Nah, she'll be okay.
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>>153547781
Why didn't you save the mother?
>>
what weapon should i use on a BLT build early on? i don't have the DLC yet, and i either want SKL/BLT or pure BLT
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>>153552427
Cane
>>
Anyone need a hand or wants to coop?
>>
>>153554401
>Anyone need a hand

I just fapped, sorry.
>>
>>153554401
Wanna take on NG+3 Paarl and Cainhurst? I should be on in about 20 minutes if you're still available
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>>153547781
DON'T GIVE IT TO THE KID
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>>153559447
Sure thing, let me know when you're ready
>>
Any advice on when to use the untricked axe? The full axe is such a fantastic crutch I almost never use it 1 handed and it feels wasteful
I realize being able to use my gun is a big part but i mostly use guns reflexively rather than deliberately so there's no chance to switch
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>>153560926
I think you just answered your own question. Untrick that shit when you're going to want to parry.
>>
>>153559867
I took a little longer than expected, sorry! I'll be ringing at Paarl's fog gate with bbgex
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>>153562401
Sorry mate, I'm off to play No Man's Sky. Good luck!
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>>153562401
I'll come along anon
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>>153562513
>No Man's Sky

Oh dear, good luck to you, too, anon
>>
>>153562606
Bless you, my friend, I'm a-ringin'
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>>153562606
Sorry, the blast always gets me
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>>153547781
Give it to her

She needs closure
She's too pure for this world anyway
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>arcane needs fucking ithyll gems to do jack shit
>chikage and bloodletter scale their blood damage off physical gems too and do a shitzillion damage out of the box
ITS NOT FAIR
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>>153563380
>implying the payoff isn't worth it
Tools can carry you through EVERYTHING
You don't even have to hit stuff with your stick

Just spam Ex. Gloves or BSE and use ACB to melt Bosses
If you have DLC Accursed Brew is pretty awesome too
>>
Thank you, Milo?

Would you be available for Cainhurst?
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>>153563591
tools are god tier with like 70 ARC but arc weapons shouldnt be such a pain in the dick to get working, especially the kosm parasite
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>>153563732
I'll be there in a sec
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>>153563732
Ringing whenever you're ready
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>>153563787
>>153564171
Getting there just now, sorry for the wait!
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>>153562401
Not me >>153562513 he's just memeing, sorry, I thought I'll finish a FRC with a friend but connection is super shitty and I am getting frustrated a bit and forgot about you sorry, glad other anons helped.
>>
>ps4 hit by the disc eject bug

Kill me.
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>>153564295
No worries, anon! We're nearly done, just have to kill Logarius. Nearly cleared the whole game in a night on this NG cycle, just had Paarl and Cainhurst left
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Lady Maria can read! Read!
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Aaaaaaah! Thank you, Milo!
>>
>>153564796
How can i avoid this? Do i just have to play with my fingers crossed?
>>
>>153563380
This game and DS3 bums me out so much. I remember killing Gwyn in 3 spells in my DS1 sorceror run. Why From? Why did you nerf my favorite stat so bad? Fuck you
>>
>>153567565
> killing Gwyn in 3 spells
There's you reason right there.
>>
>>153567565
>I can't cheese bosses anymore
>Why did they nerf it?!?!!?
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>>153563760
>stopping only at 70ARC
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>>153567820
>>153567762
I know it was OP back then but in borne and DS3 they didnt even try to make it viable
>>
>>153568093
But at least now, Arcane is super viable in Bloodborne. It wasn't at release, but Arc is great now.
>>
>>153568239
How?
>weapons that scale with arcane have no effecf on physical damage
>have to grind your ass off in chalices to make weapons viable when you can go through the whole game not touching chalices on another build
>20 quicksilver bullets isnt nearly enough to cast a decent amount of spells
Garbage
>>
>>153568093
70 ARC and 60 INT are my favorite builds.
>>
>>153566039
True Night of the Hunt, sounds like fun. Good luck with that executioners scum
>>
>>153564796
What

What is this?
>>
>>153568497
So basically because you have to get gems it's not viable.

Ignore blood bulleting and all the great DLC tools, also ignore making weapons bolt/fire.
>>
>>153568652
You'll know, sooner or later
>>
>>153568497
>20 quicksilver bullets isnt nearly enough to cast a decent amount of spells

Equip runes to give and get you more bullets
>>
>>153568665
Well ok i dont have the DLC yet so my opinions are with the base game
And yes i think thats a good point. If i can get the kirkhammer so early game and make a str build the game is easy mode. But the fact you have to do all this extra shit just to make arcane good isnt worth it
>>
>>153538851
Its already useful in 3vs1 ganks with 50 bt
Try it with ash and rush in to finish them off when you hit at least two.
Ill try and get a webm to show you guys.
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>>153568497
>weapons that scale with arcane have no effect on physical damage
Not seeing how this is a problem, really.

>have to grind your ass off in chalices to make weapons viable when you can go through the whole game not touching chalices on another build
I went through the entire game only touching Chalices once to get fire gems from Hotdog.

>20 quicksilver bullets isnt nearly enough to cast a decent amount of spells
Formless Oedon and blood bullets are both things you can do.

You really only have to go through dungeons if you're doing pvp, but everyone else does too.
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Purging Ain't free. The Castle Cainhurst gotta be litterd with the corpses of Vilebloods. Queen Annalise aka "Cuckqueen" is not my master. she is an unclean wench and probably ugly as well :DD. LOGARIUS and Wheel not Chikage and CROWSTEEL ok. Praise the good blood.

Someone edit the rest of the executioner set for me pls
>>
>>153568652
not completely sure myself...
A quick google later and...
i guess it has something to do with this.
http://venturebeat.com/2015/12/14/is-your-playstation-4-randomly-ejecting-discs-heres-a-few-fixes/
>>
>>153568695
>have mechanical eject buttons that I never use

Thank Jaysis
>>
>>153568497
,':^J
>>
>>153568816
You have to do extra shit to make any build good.
BLT is pretty meh until you get 50 BLT. If you're just talking about pure PvE then who cares, anything works as long as you're putting story gems you find lying around on your weapons. Vanilla NG isn't hard enough that you'd need to gem up any weapon fully with FRC gems.
>>
>>153569117
Because PvE is the comparisons ive been making between the souls games and borne.
>>
>>153569523
They had a particular play style in mind for bloodborne, which is why shields blow and while str and skl have slightly different feeling weapons, there is no heavy armor or poise
you can still get to the dlc and grab the 20% bolt gems from the fish people in the last area for 'base game' gems
or if you aren't retarded you can find the fire gem in the base game and do the first chalice dungeon when you're supposed to (around level 30) and get a guarenteed fire gem from the first boss
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I appear to have made quite the mess!
>>
Someone up to Darkbeast Paarl?
>>
New game +
Level 110
>>
>>153569874
mom's gonna freak bro
>>
>>153570619
Sure thing, what's the pass dude?
>>
>>153564796
Buy the game on psn? I bought it just in case when it was 20$
>>
Pass is paarl
new game plus
Ringing at the fog
>>
Hey /bbg/, name my Beast's Embrace build
>>
>>153571780
Beastly Bob
Awoo Aaron
>>
>>153571757
>>153571264
Forgot to reply. See you there friend, thanks
>>
>>153571951
Ringadingdong
>>
>>153571780
Furry Fred
>>
>>153571780
Beatsy Ally T.
>>
>>153572046
Shit just realised I have no Blood Vials, Iˇll be right back sorry famygdala
>>
>>153571780
REEEEEEEEEE

AAAEEERRGH

AWOOOOOOOOOO
>>
>>153572130
this is the best one
>>
>>153572139
Go for it my dude
>>
>>153572591
Only a few swings left my AWOOOOing friend but he got me. Ringing again?
>>
>>153572591
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE thanks a lot m8!
>>
>>153573306
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE glad to help!REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>153573306
>>153573330
Fucking kill yourselves.
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>>153573671
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I'm back in my ps4 quest to beat ebriatus. Ringing at fog wall, password is iuiuiu
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>>153574198
Jesus Christ, just realized I have no insight. Nevermind....
>>
>>153573727
Could you help me with Shadows of Yharnam now? Pass is shadow I'll ring at the snakedude shortcut.
REEEEEE
>>
>>153574337
Okay, ringing now. Same pass.
>>
>>153537107
Sup guys should I do what this anon suggests? Or just Str/Vit?
>>
>>153573671
REEEEEEEEEE
>>
>>153574895
>Shadows of Yharnam
>help

Is this a meme? Shadows was an absurdly easy boss to me, and I'm not even that great at the game. I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad necessarily, I mean we all find different shit hard, I'm just wondering.
>>
>>153575029
Be there in sec
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>>153574895
Oh shit, I didn't see this be along in a sec!
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>>153575268
No hard feelings. I am pretty new at this game and entered NG+ A bit too soon and have no good gems. Also I am a Str/Arc "build" and my viscerals do shit damage plus swinging with HMLS is too slow for those quick faggots.
Most importantly tho, the Beast Embrace dude is fun to play with I would eventually kill those fags and I want 5 vermin
>>
>>153575382
Thanks for the help.


Anyone need help or just want to do some co-op?
>>
>>153575268
They can overwhelm you very easily via fireball spam, flamethrower stunlock and katanabro's combos. Three boss enemies at once can be intimidating as fuck.
>>
>>153575525
Thanks beastbro and a fellow Confederate!

>>153576019
You want to run with me through Bob's Burgers?
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>>153576310
Bobs burgers?
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>>153576310
And defeat NG+ Rom. Pass is burger uf anyone is interested.
>>
>>153576514
Omw
>>
>>153576502
Bundeswehr
>>
>>153576502
Byrgenwerth, sorry
>>
>>153576502
Kek it's what we now call Burgerwerth.
>>
>>153576502
>Byrgenwerth
>Burger's Worth
>Burgertown
>Bob's Burgers
>Five Guys Burgers and Eyes

>>153576514
i'll join as well
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>>153576685
>>153576631
That makes perfect sense.

Ps4, right?
>>
>>153576685
>Five Guys Burgers and Eyes
Fucking brilliant
>>
>>153576615
>>153576685
Fuck sorry guys I had to go suddenly, thanks for the fun! And sorry for the nasty quit.
>>
>>153576514

>Session Lost
Oh MC.Willem's

>>153577036
Ah ok
that explains it
>>
>>153577036
It's all good, friend.
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>>153577252
Need a Five Guys co-op beastbuddy?
>>
>>153577183
>>153577252
Oh you guys are the best, maybe next time then.
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>>153576815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke6uw8ATYmY
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NEW THREAD

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