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First for best girl

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do i look cool or gay

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Reminder PC FC is going on at Demon ruins. Well, trying to

Pass dsg, signs here, if no one else shows up I guess I'll end it

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>>153405072
oops posted wrong pic sorry

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Do you need to have chosen a specific starting class to do bleed builds properly or can you respec and do them with any file (at the cost of a little efficiency, I imagine)?

>>153405230
I'm coming

>>153405226
Gay the cool kind

>>153405226
Little bit of both.

da3 covenants are the best

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I love bullying Kriemhild!

>>153405226
Cool

>>153405238
that's not nice, anon !

We don't like people lying here !

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>>153405072
you posted the wrong pic then, anon
np, I got your back

>>153405464
shave dude

Why the fuck is the Iron Keep in Scholar of the First Sin so fucking stupid?
It is literally just an overload of enemies coming out nonstop. It isnt even fun.
Fuck dude, why is all of Scholar like this? They literally just spam enemies everywhere. Base DaS2 is so much fucking superior.

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Anyone have any tips for my Quality Build? Should I keep Carthus Flame arc? Should I keep Hunters + Warriors rings for 45/45?

I have been jumping around with this build lately and I can't stick to a good point distribution, any pointers someone can give me?

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>>153405464

>>153405574
>Fuck dude, why is all of Scholar like this? They literally just spam enemies everywhere.
Why are you so retarded?

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>>153405464

>>153405574
>>153405574
Git gud faggot. If anything that area is too easy. Too many bonfires.

>>153405574
They tried fixing a shitty game by making it even more shit.
Just stop playing it my man.

>>153405574
I remember someone mentioning here once that the move speed of the knights in iron keep is actually tied to framerate, so they end up moving way faster than they're supposed to.

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rate my guy

>>153405345
Just use Monkey my dog.

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>>153405680

>>153405725
Armor too thin for the helmet, the legs and the axe.

>>153405693
I never said I was bad nor having trouble. I just said it is fucking annoying. Having to stop to fight 3 enemies every 5 feet I take in here.

>>153405725
What legs are those?
Strong bones and calcium there though

>>153405725
Because of all the proportions of the armor and your weapon he ends up looking like he's 4 feet tall.

>>153405445
How's Wolnir's? Heard it got buffed but I haven't used the damn thing since launch.

>>153405072
"Never killed her" club represent!

>>153405226

You look like you have no idea what's going on.

>Dancers Crown
>Winged Knight Armour
>Firelight Gauntlets
>Exile Leggings

And I'm at exactly 70% while still fast rolling with pretty gud fashion to boot

>>153405948
It's the best faith weapon. That might not sound like a huge acomplishment, but the current version of the sword is a really solid weapon.
Unfortunately, it's still inferior to the hollowslayer.

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>>153405445

>>153405345
knight for wa's, otherwise warrior is the best

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>>153406067
>being fat

The deacons robes look so cozy.
I want to sleep in them.

>>153406260

I'm mad af they don't drop their blue ones.

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>going through Irithyll Dungeon
>these fucking health sappers, man
>manage to do decently by sniping them with a Composite Bow or knocking them down with Cathedral Knight Greatsword R1's
>see two of them near a stairwell, snipe one and plunge attack the other
>don't see the third one, which aggros and starts running at me
>panic, run away while hitting it with arrows
>get cornered at end of hallway, drop to literally 1 HP, get killed by its poker

I don't think I've fucked up this hard since I aggroed the entire dragon army at Dragon Shrine.

>>153406145
Might have to give FAI build another shot.

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>>153405464

>>153406253
Probably just my opinion but I think a buff/skinny dude running at you wouldn't look as intimidating as a big guy with titties somehow running at you at the same speed

>me, yesterday, finishing NG+2
>"I'll just take my time with NG+3, then I'll have a short break until dlc drops"

>me, now
>have all weapons, all rings, all armor sets, all shields, 600+ of all consumables, all weapons +3 or higher, ready to face off with the Princes

Should I just go for NG+7 and not take any breaks?

>>153405226

nice helmet mouth slot, do you speak with a lisp and drool everywhere?

>>153406234
I want her to lick me with that tongue

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>>153406234
why is she so perfect
and why is there no art of her

I don't even like ENB, but this comic was the only other drawing of her besides the pic you posted I could find

>>153406319
They don't.
>tfw can't get Blue Cathedral Knight's gear either

>>153405445
>my magefu will never be mage buddies with Kriemhild

hold me

Why is that one deacon not hostile?
The one that drops the deep ring

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Why are there no good masks in any of the other games?

lmao
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/50dlwa/some_testing_on_greatswords_weapon_art_stance_r2/
Nice balance hackazaki

>>153406797
Maybe he's senile like some hollows fucked up by the deep?

>>153404991
Anyone got sliders for a strong looking black male?

I want to make a big guy and I want him to be big bald and black like the ones I have dreams about

>>153406871

spears are the same shit the damage type just says thrust but the R1 pokes do standard damage unless you just barely graze the enemy with the very tip

I'm not even sure what's balance and what's a bug any more

what's the edgiest character name that you've ever used?

>>153407148
R2s on spears are guaranteed thrust

Witch Crystal are we married now?

>>153405960
I don't even waifu Priscilla,but there's no reason to kill her for me since I like to keep the Panted World open for invasions.

Do chaos pyromancies scale? Do dark pyromancies scale? Do any pyromancies scale?

I'm enjoying my pyromancer, but I'm considering switching to dark sorceries. I need more information, but the wiki don't have much, really.

>>153407312
Probably xXxKr4wLiNgxXx.
It was a katana build.

>>153407312
Guts

>>153407429
do they scale with what?

>Already have an established Knight Set
>Make a new set for the starting Knight class
>Rename the old one to Nameless Knight instead of making that the name of your new armor

But why?

>>153407312
FIRE CLEANSES for my DS2 pyromancer.
I had a lot of fun with him, I would use immolation and spam warmup whenever i killed the host, but to this day I have no idea what i was thinking with that name.

>>153407312
"Dark Paladin Vor"
str character wearing dark crusader armor (cathedral knight helmet with creighton's shit) with some dark spells
doesn't exist anymore, was so shit that I deleted him

>>153407364
_No, that's creppy

I already have a FaP ring if you need it back though

>>153407616
You didn't delete him because we made fun of it, did you?

>>153407556
I don't know, but I do know I miss the Falconer set.

>>153407660

Awww :(

Also that was a spare anyway so don't mind it.

>>153407429
all of them scale with your pyrohand's spell buff, which scales with its upgrade level + your fth and int
>>153407693
nah, I tried playing with the finished build and couldn't handle how terrible he was
never shared him here before

>>153407312
Hope's End
Envoy of End
Death Seeker

>>153407548
Faith and or Intelligence, humanity, hollowing, anything. Talking about dark souls 3. I think I remember chaos scaling with humanity in DaS1, but there's no humanity anymore I guess.

>>153407556
Because they want the new Knight armor to be the loreless "default" knight armor and to signal that the old Knight armor is a relic from really long time ago.

Which is kinda funny since nobody other than the player character actually is shown wearing the DS3 Knight armor which is a shame since it's the best "default" Knight armor.

>>153407762
Oh well someone else had that look on here a few days ago and i made fun of him. I hoped it didnt make him delete it.

Can someone post that DaS3 MSPaint roll thing, wanna draw something but don't know what.

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>tfw just started katana build a few hours ago so you can't join in with the FC

Could the Chosen Undead survive in Racoon City after the outbreak? Let's also say he needs to survive both RE2 and RE3's campaign

FC at the Demon Ruins, PC. Place signs on the ledge overlooking the worm and the ODK entrance. Pass dsg as usual. Please come, Depression and Paddrick can only arouse me so much.

You can join Rosaria without Sirris going mental yeah?
You just can't offer tongues?

>>153408010
Its ok. Im at work right now so i am kind of in the same boat

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yo waddup!
IM LATE AGAIN

>>153407832
your pyro glove scales C/C with INT/FAI, so run a "quality" build with those stats to minmax. 40/40 INT/FAI is optimal

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>>153407712

>Still no Falconer Saber

>>153408047
Can't die, so technically they could survive anything.

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>>153408067
If you want me to advertise, you only need to ask.

Put signs anywhere near here, new stealth tech is being developed

>>153408047
So a bunch of hollows and like burkin/nemesis as bosses. Chosen Undead wouldn't even need to git gud.

>>153407712
I really liked their leggings

>>153408101
At least I'm enjoying myself, I've been trying to slog through the early game on my sorc build and I just cannot be fucking bothered. So at least I can learn how to use a cancer weapon in the mean time.

>>153408067
Did Tsorig take no damage on your end or was it just me?

>>153405602
>40 vig
with favor +2 and life +3 you'll hit 1801 hp at 39 vig, which is exactly one point more than three estus flask's worth, meaning you'll never need any more than that. Having any more HP than that is just asinine honestly, considering you're using points that could be placed elsewhere.

>+5 str/dex rings while already at 40
no

>20 vit
not nessecary in the least unless you're the sort to carry a bunch of weapons at once. Are you using the prisoner's chain? Don't. You're SL125 for fucks sake.

>SL 125
>Using knight for quality instead of making a hollowquality warrior
just start over my man, you can fit everything you need into SL100 if you just want quality, going to 120 means you're got 20 points overflowing and nowhere to put them but luck, which is better done with the warrior due to lower base vit, int, and att

but in all seriousness I would just not dedicate everything to quality. Try going to 15 faith/18 attunement for tears+replenishment. Also consider trying out the gargoyle lame-spear or the twin prince's homosword since you're going to have 9/9 int/fai anyway.

Flame arc is an alright buff since it lasts 90 seconds, especially for twinks due to the low investment and weightless casting tool, but most the people you go up against are going to be putting V8 on their weapons for free anyhow, so you're spending assets where they don't really need to be spent.

>>153408085
You can spend tongues on services, you just can't give them to her for faction rep.

>DaS2 Bandit Axe is a solid as fuck STR weapon with B scaling at max
>DaS3 Brigand Axe is a piece of shit

SAD

>>153408187
Make it slightly curved and there we have a Griffith cosplay weapon.

Reminder: DS3 has the least amount of enemy variety in the entire series.

Reminder: DS3 has the least amount of base bosses in the entire series.

Reminder: DS3 has some of the shortest areas in the entire series.

Reminder: DS3 is the most linear in the entire series.

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>>153408291
>at least i am enjoying myself
At least one of us is

why is the Executioners such a terrible covenant?

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It may be not as beautiful as the Syan's but the way it moves my fucking dick

>>153408494
Why would you just lie like that

>>153408513
aren't executioners the sunbros of bb? what's bad about them?

>>153408187
I really hope that set comes back in a dlc, it's one of my favorite designs from DaS2.

>>153408293
Happened for me too, that's why I BC'ed him out. Just wanted stuff for you to do while waiting

>>153408675
All of those are objective, factual, verifiable quantitative truths.

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I return.

Whew~~~

You reckon Siegward dies?
Or is just satisfied that he's finally laid his friend to rest,ditches his armor and bounces?

>>153408494
>all that
>still better than DaS2
Quality over quantity

>>153408223
Yeah but can CU kill Nemesis without using the Acid?

>>153407616
>having a vore fetish

When does the prisoners chain effectiveness start to drop off? IIRC it's somewhere around 60, right?

>>153408807
You can stand there and watch him kill himself dipshit

>>153408882
I mean, he was going to be an Aldrich Faithful

>>153408970
Siegward, not siegmeyer

>>153408698
That's the league, he's just being a vileblood.

Anyone have the star wars crossover one ?

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>>153408067
This pyro build is so fucking bad oh my god fuck this so much why can From not balance casting fucking gooks jesus christ I hate my fucking mind right now

If a 3-man polish company with a budget of 2 euros can make Witcher 2 look good and be so lengthy, why couldn't Fromsoftware do it? They certainly didn't spend their budget on combat and balance.

>>153409032
You think I meant him retard

If Yhorm isn't your last lord just stand around the boss room for five seconds and he dies

>>153408513
Because all the covenants are poorly implemented in BB outside of the Confederates.

>>153408698
No, they have a rivalry with the Vilebloods (the "invasion" covenant). All it does is make it so if a Vileblood and an Executioner try to co-op they end up PVPing instead. Cool idea, bad implementation. League Confederates are co-op.

>>153409153
he goes to sit down and does another toast, though, no?
and then when you reload the area he's gone and leaves his stuff

>>153409071

Yeah Pyro is hilariously ineffective in PvP without Black Serpent to complement it.

>>153409261
If you wait for a while he dies and you get souls

>>153409261
Stand
Around
You
Retard

He dies a minute or so after toasting you

>>153408970
>>153409153
Calm down you sperg. Jesus.
Sorry I didn't wait 5 minutes after killing Yhorm.

>>153409217
are they like dorkmoons then? or does it confine to "if we're in the same world we're enemigos no matter what"?

>>153408907
Don't fall for the memes, its always good.

Retards who couldn't pass high school math classes don't realize that the 15 extra levels also boosts your inherent physical defense on top of the HP gain, more than enough in making up for 10% damage increase AFTER the inherent physical defense does most of the work.

>>153409139
Because whether you want to believe it or not, there's a world of difference in the amount of funding actually involved. Nobody would be stupid enough to give fromsoft lots of money to make a game when they know that they can turn out something on the level of dark souls every 2 years with only peanuts. This is the story of most japanese companies. The entire appeal of their nation's industries is being cheaper than doing it yourself because asians have neither a sense of self nor feel entitled to human rights.

>>153408771
all I have to say to you then is quality>quantity

>>153409686
>>153408859

Too bad DS3 has neither

>>153409594
I mean, I was planning to stop at 70 anyway for the invasions, but that's good. While I'm asking actually what's the recommended weapon upgrade level to get good activity at that SL?

>>153409532
Yes, and since you don't have signs in BB, you never know when a vileblood/executioner might come.

>>153409528
>wait 1 minute instead of teleporting or going white rabbit on the fucking bonfire
Wow. It's soooooo fucking incomprehensible to the human mind. Fuck off with your questions that not only mean jack shit but take literally no effort to test

>>153407032
PLEASE HELP you shitters

>>153409821
Anything +7 or above puts you against +10. But +6 feels under-powered at that level. Pick your poison

I dislike it how in DaS2 and DaS3 dark magic has a purple coloration to it, I liked it's pure black look in DaS1 better, it made it really look like humanity magic

>>153409768

DaS1=BB>DaS3>DaS2SotFS=DeS

where is DaS3 for you then

>>153409837
that's lame, it should be a secondary function. like the executioners invading vilebloods and vilebloods being more prone to invading executioners or something similar.

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Need help on maneaters in Demon souls

Why people who use gotthards and ccs are always terrible and manage to lose to the most ridiculous joke weapon you're using on your current run?

I wonder where are the people who are good AND use these weapons.

>>153410021
Below DeS, above DaS2

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>absentmindedly fucking around in Firelink on new character I have a real bad habit of starting these games up and then doing absolutely nothing in the hub
>talk to Orbeck and buy some shit
>back out and go to leave
>forgot I had scrolls, go to give him those, asks if I forgot something
>ok, now time to leave
>forgot I had a bunch of consumable souls
>go buy more shit, leaving for real this time
>forgot to talk to him for gesture and ring
>asks if I forgot something then adds that it'd be just like me

>>153410118
Sure booting up the old turbo graphics 16

>>153409991
pursuers at least had purple. and every dark magic had a purple mass in the casting animation. but it should definitely be toned down quite a lot

>>153408494
>least amount of enemy variety
Poppycock. If you took Demon's/Dark 1 and Dark 3 they'd have roughly the same amount of variety.

>shortest areas. Untrue. The levels are possibly the most expansive yet, but having too many bonfires breaks them up into smaller segments which imo sucks.

>least amount of bosses.
Demon's has 18.
DS1 base has 20
DS3 has 19.

Is it just me or does every weapon feel completely bland in DaS3?

Everything seems to be some wishy-washy D/C scaling snooze fest with no decisiveness as to which stat should govern it. And with the heavy and sharp infusions, it's like there's no real difference between STR and DEX, except for a few special weapons.

>>153409884
I talked to him. I exhausted his dialogue and i left.
I'm really sorry it takes you 5 minutes to think about where to go next.

Calm down, sperg.

>>153410150
Go to bed Aldia

>>153410429
EL OH FUCKING EL

Learn to count imbecile

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/bosses
http://darksouls.wikidot.com/bosses

Delusional and retarded DS3 fanboys are the most worthless existence in humanity

>>153410429
>If you took Demon's/Dark 1 and Dark 3 they'd have roughly the same amount of variety

No they don't moron. You can literally count different enemy types (not including reskins) for DeS, DaS, DaS2, and DaS3 and you will see that DaS3 has the least.

>>153410492
>1 minute is 5 minutes
>le damage control despite being the retard
>>153410415
>le platform meme with PS3 exclusive

One of the worst generals

>>153410664
Take a fucking look at the Demon's Souls "boss" list. It lists the dragons and Primeval demons as bosses even though they're not.

>>153410457

The stat scaling of most weapons is annoying but I think it's the natural result of making a system where you can infuse anything to be anything. The problem more I think is how there isn't enough weapons for specific builds like STR/DEX/INT/FAI, especially the severe lack of innate elemental weapons compared to 2 that created more build options for INT/FAI users.

A more severe problem though is just how bland the movesets are for most everything save Straight Swords surprisingly. Look at the Greatswords like Wolnir's, the Greatsword of Judgement, and the Firelink Sword. They all have the exact same Bastard Sword R2s, it's ridiculous.

post yfw you encountered the skeleton army at the catacombs bridge for the first time

>>153410895
You frequently stand around for one whole minute doing nothing?
Feel bad for your caretaker if thats the case.

Simmer down spergio

>>153410664
Are you seriously counting the Primeval Demon(s), MiB and the dragons as boss fights?

I'm at 60 Int in DaS3, when should I stop leveling Faith?

>>153410664
I was completely correct with Demon's Souls. That list lists non-bosses. With DaS1 I forgot Priscilla and Firesage but I said DaS1 BASE which means without counting the DLC.

>>153411269
Why are you leveling FAI on an INT build?

how's lothric knight sword with lightning infusion in a pure faith build?

>>153411269
12 for immolation tinder and probably some other stuff

>>153411007

>a system where you can infuse anything to be anything

This was a mistake. Should have kept infusions as elemental/aux effect only.

>>153411439
It's not a mistake but but weapons should clearly be either STR/DEX with a few exceptions and Refined shouldn't be so strong.

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>>153409594
>>153408907
Firstly, no, the prisoners chain is not just as good at higher levels.

Secondly, you should be concerned with weight and equipload, not general SL (even though the +15 are going to change your effectiveness far more drastically if you're a lower level, for the same reason adding a cup of water to a half-filled glass is a far more obvious change than adding a cup of water to the ocean).

If you could allocate the 15 stat points the chain gives you as you please (for example, all on vigor or 10 vig/5 end) it would be a pretty good ring all around, but since 5 of the points you're adding go onto vitality, you're adding far fewer than 15 points worth of stats since vit is pretty much completely inferior to vig. If you use something like the hunters ring, you can just lower your dex 5 points then increase vigor 5 times without having to waste resource on vit.

In pic related you can see I'm able to make an identical build to my vit build, but with more health and more absorption by using a +5 ring instead (since I need to use a ring that's actually comparable if I want to argue that it's a waste of a slot). You only lose 10 points of defense out of at least of 137 (the chain build comes out to 147, not 150 as mugen claims).

I can assure you form experience that this will almost always be the case. If you have enough stats to add any +5 ring then shuffle the 5 stat points onto vig (i.e. the ability to subtract 5 points from int, fai, str, or dex), then lower your armor weight accordingly, you'll come out with equal or greater health and more absorption since lighter sets have far greater absorption/weight ratios.

the reason why the chain build has more than 5 vit added is because wearing more armor makes the chain's penalty smaller; if you're up past the absorption "cap" and take an absorption penalty, you get further from the cap, which in turn gives you more absorption and softens the penalty. Pic is mostly about vit

The paired weapon system should have applied to more than just paired weapons
Just ultras should have been only two-handable, with no option for an offhand. Instead, they should either have been able to alternate between stances with Y/triangle, changing their moveset, or accessed additional attacks with L1. This should have applied to all greataxes, all greathammers, some UGS, some greatswords, some curved GS and most halberds.

>>153408494
you notice how the people that actually enjoy DaS3 don't shit up the general with posts like this

it's only the little DaS2 fighting game rejects that do this

>>153409597
>witcher 2
>massive budget

Don't delude yourself m8

why vigor increases health while vitality increases equip load?

spanish version got this right making vitalidad aka vitality health pool and vigor the equip load thingy

if they fuck up this kind of stuff so bad
how can we trust the item descriptions?

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>FROM brought back Blessed and its HP regen
>it's literally the worst infusion outside of maybe Poison with no redeeming qualities unless used on a shield you don't plan on actually using as a shield

>>153411607
STR and DEX shouldn't have the option to convert a weapon from the other archetype into theirs. The whole point of the str/dex split instead of physical is that the weapons you use with each are different.

The problem wth quality being too goo isn't it being too damaging, but rather, that it can have access to every weapon with no waste of stats

>>153411123
>he doesn't shitpost on dsg after killing a boss
39 big laffs

>more irrelevant text
>more damage control

>>153411881
Because Miyazaki is a hack

>>153411969
Sperg.

>>153411881
It's DaS2's retarded naming system. Splitting END into END and VIT was pointless, the problem was clearly how strong DaS1's rings were.

>>153411645
Now go take damage using both builds and realize absorption is a joke compared to main defense

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that's all for me tonight GGs
pyro builds without Black serpent=Viable as fuck

>>153412217
I compared my vestiges to yours, are you not running sage ring?

>>153411694
>b-but its the DS2 fanboys

LMFAO delusional DS3 babies never fail to act retarded

>>153411645
>>153412167
I have 175 flat defense on my build and it isn't worth much

>>153412039
You say that, but do you know what one is lover boy?

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Is there a list somewhere of all the armor sets that have been in all 3 DaS games?

Want to go back to 1 and play through all 3 in a row as the same character.

>>153412284
It is. They talk shit about every game except maybe DaS1.

>>153412217

GG Paddrick, and thanks for hosting Witch Crystal. Shame more people didn't come but fun was had all the same.

>>153412334
You.
Also, me. Mostly you though

>>153412263
when I invade I use sage +2
I use Untrue dark ring in /dsg/ FCs because I'm a fucking trryhard and ruined DaS2 FCs :^)

>>153412360
DaS1 Knight
Elite Knight
Standard Armor
Black Leather set
Hunter's gear
Dark Armor

>>153411948
This.

Refined shouldn't exist. All it ever does is inflate the meta. BB's meta was screwed up because of Ludwigs Holy Blade, being a dual B/B STR/DEX scaler with like A in ARC so it buffed to even more of a monster. It meant that no matter how high the meta went, Ludwigs would just get better and better, so people stayed under 100 to keep it from being king.

Imo, refined, if it has to exist, should drop the base damage by a tonne, since it's now getting dual scaling goodness.

But that seems like a cop out, at the same time. If people invested into quality stats, they shouldn't just be met with the overall same damage as a pure dex or str.

I'd wager a special secret thing. Refined weapons use more stamina. They're now dual scaling monsters, but they consume more stamina per swing than a straight dex or str version would.

>>153412167
The main defense is barely different though, and you can gain it from leveling vigor. You're adding 10 to 137, that increase is less than a tenth of your base defense value, whereas your absorption is gaining another fifth of its value while your HP still goes up. Do something beyond making claims, anon.

>>153412313
You can literally test it like this:

Equip 4 pieces of armor, preferably rags. Take a hit from crossbow hollow at high wall.

Equip 3 pieces of Havels, leave one slot empty. Take a hit.

Check the damage difference.

>>153411881
This.

Vitality as "How Strong I am" makes no sense. Vitality means life, it more relates to your health.

"Vigor" means to do something with effort. I.e. lift heavy shit. It makes more sense for weight burden.

Fromsoft are stupid.

>>153412217
Pyro builds seemed alright before the serpent buff really
>>153412440
I enjoyed getting memed on, all this vit and a greathammer is suffering

Thanks for hosting host

>>153412632
>he thinks this is actually a valid means of testing
You're changing absorption and defense at the same time when you do that. You have no means of determining which one is more responsible for the increase in damage taken once a piece is removed in that scenario. Scientific method and all that. If you actually wanted to compare, you'd use armor with absorption as close to zero as possible, since all armor adds the same amount of defense (you just get defense for filling the slot).

crescent axe or winged knight halberd?

>>153412920

I hope you enjoy the embers at least.

>>153412928
Idiot. The the test is supposed to be High ABS vs High Def.

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This shit is so expensive fuck

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FC over, thanks for the few people who came, guess today was a busy day for too many people.
Eygon is a cool cosplay.
Sorry for the invaders and if you got annoyed at me because of the ring

>>153412559
Why not swap sage +2 for great swamp or witch? I can get not using the three as I use life + FaP because fashion myself, but magic without the speed is painful

>>153407032
>>153409960
seriously reply here, it's tough to make dark skinned characters in this game. they always look either too orange or too purple. and, for some reason, your characters skin is SUPER shiny, and you can't really tell with lighter skin tones, but its obvious on darker skin tones. so you end up looking like an oily oompa loompa (rip gene wilder)

this isn't a helpful reply Im just ranting I guess. from soft is racist.

>>153413057
Winged Knight Halberd

>>153413119
No free lunches

You're paying for those 5 levels, just later when each level costs more

Pay denbts early

>>153412606
>BB's meta was screwed up because of Ludwigs Holy Blade
LHB was barely a mid tier weapon never considered to be anything remotely good by cool kids.

>>153413076
I was actually running low, seems to be a repeating issue with mainly blue covenant characters for me. Happened in DaS1 too

Does the bkga 2hr1r2 true combi

>>153413123
You could always use a Saint Tree Bellvine in the offhand to increase your cast speed if you're dedicated pyro spells only, or comfortable soft switching/hard switching

>>153412583
Forgot Havel's Set.
And Saint set.

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>>153413194
Talking about free lunches

Rosaria needs to eat something look at her wrist she almost a skeleton

>>153413378
Onion as well. And Solaire.

>>153413079
I read the first slot as 4 pieces of havels, calm your nugs.

There are plenty of other reasons as to why that's a horrible means of testing. Absorption is a %decrease. That mean smaller attacks will be less affected by it. You're testing with a mere bolt in an earlygame area of all things. Or rather, you aren't testing at all, because you've likely never checked and aren't actually posting numbers.

>>153412606
>being a dual B/B STR/DEX scaler with like A in ARC so it buffed to even more of a monster
What are you talking about, ARC scaling does nothing unless you convert it to elemental in which case the B/B scaling would do nothing.

>>153413323
I use dark weapons too or would, if I bothered to farm more dark gems so that's a no go for me, I value the free hand more than the ring slot.

>>153413451
Why is solaire's set so awful looking in 3?

>>153413274
there was some talk about it maybe if you were perfectly hugging the person face to face.

I don't think it does though.

>>153413558
Maybe you're used to the colours being brighter?
The emblem and shoulders seem a lot darker in 3.

>>153413119
just pay souls to Velka's statue up until level 45, then buy purging stones from Yuria
doing it at the Firekeeper is really only worth if you want to get completely rid of hollowing

>>153413558
It always looked awful

>>153413475
There are multiple enemies including the giant axe wielders. So test yourself you fucking moronic faggot. I'm not spoonfeeding you information.

>>153413802
> I'm not spoonfeeding you information.
Yeah, just opinions.

>>153413135
There are sliders for a couple females nubian queens so I could use their skin sliders.

How do I save Horace? If I let him alive and bone out, then tell Anri about the lake, she'll save him?

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How do I keep this nigger on the ground? I'm staying in front of him close to his head but he's still flying up

>>153413794
>>153413749
>>153413558
>not wearing it in 3 now that the shoulder grass shit is a proper texture that flows
Heretics

>>153413848
Retards like you will continue making trash builds and continue complaining about losing.

>>153413941
He doesnt ever leave that pit
I totally missed him on my first playthrough though and after lord of hollows went back and found him
if that counts

>>153413274
No

perfectly timed staggered r1's perma stun lock though

>>153413949
He's flying up because you're in his shit you retard. He's getting away from you. You have to stay at a mid distance and then close in, not hug his chest.

>>153413941
If you tell Anri about the lake (optional) without killing Horace who is hollowed, Horace will kill her.

You can't save Horace, either kill him and tell her of the lake or do neither.

>>153413949
you really can't. protip though, when he's flying and does the lunge attack to land, when you see him doing that start to run towards where he's going to land, don't worry about dodging it. just get into position to start attacking him as soon as he lands.

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>>153414126
> Horace will kill her

>>153413972
Do you have any data which would suggest I lose? Oh wait, here's your next line:

>Haha yeah my data is that you're a huge moron, smell you later anon!

>>153414048
Well fuck, I'm not hugging his chest, I'm atleast a few feet away from his head, enough to bait a bite attack if he doesn't fuck off to the air

>>153414185
Welcome to Dark Souls, where the lore's made up and friendships don't matter.

>>153414126
Doesn't she get pissed when she sees his corpse?

>>153414352
that's fucked up, they were such a cute gay couple

What's with all the dislike for DaS2? Is it just a dislike because the former games set a higher standard? (Beaten 2, currently playing 1. Haven't played Demon Souls yet. Just curious as to what causes the hate towards DaS2.

>>153414359
There is no corpse

>can't infuse or buff Lothrics holy sword because that would make it too OP
Nice job "A" team and Miyazaki

>>153414456
Yeah, but something tells me Anri swongs both ways.

In more than one way.

>>153414185
He's hollowed from falling into the lake like a dopey retard

>>153414359
No, his body disappears like any Dark Souls enemy. She literally can't find the body. Just the weapons.

You get an extra item if you tell her of the lake, and if you kill Aldrich with her she goes hollow next to his grave.

>>153414185
>that pic
wut manga

Always miss dsg fcs.

Damnit.

>>153414474
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UScsme8didI

>>153414474
>Is it just a dislike because the former games set a higher standard?

yeah, is not a bad game, just a bad souls one

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>>153414641
>she leaves a prism stone by his grave

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>>153414740
Best manga

>base defense calculation is bugged on mugen

at sl242 with the same stat distribution it says i should have 212 defense wearing any four pieces of armor

i only have 170 defense

what gives?

i want to invade in the new forest dlc area as some sort of huntsman, any fashion ideas?

>>153414761
I'm sorry, I'll try to host friday or thursday if you want in, what time is good for you?

What END and VIG do you guys settle at for mid-range invasion builds? (around about the 60-70 area)

>>153414929
>Forest DLC"
Anon it's probably gonna be as much of a "forest" as huntsman's corpse was.

>>153414475
>body
speaking figuratively

I thought she stayed in the lake and aggro'd on you if you told her horace was down there after having killed him.

Here's a pic of the grave I think:
http://darksouls3.wdfiles.com/local--files/anri-of-astora/HoraceTombAnriBETTER.jpg

>go look at wiki
>looks completely different from what I last saw
I've never had to tell anri about horace at all or even kill the guy, I just meet her in both places then kill wolnir.

>>153414641
>if you kill Aldrich with her she goes hollow next to his grave.
Oh that's what I was thinking of, shit.

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I'm have more fun playing Dark Souls 2 then I do playing Dark Souls 3

>>153415273
I definately did. It was more fun to build a character in das2 than das3.

>>153415123
>>153414641
>extra item
The ring? You get that in Yorshka's church later if you don't tell her in the catacombs.

is the Cathedral of the Deep the GOAT souls level?

>>153413451
Was Solaire's set in DaS2? I don't think it was.

>>153415439
>ADP
>The fact that SM will eventually push them away

Playing around with weapons was more fun, but character building on its own just stressed me. The silver lining is that it got me to worry less about building properly, in a nihilistic "it'll all get fucked anyway" sort of sense.

>>153415273
>>153415439

This. I wasn't a big fan of DaS2, but at least it felt like it had variety. Everything feels the same in DaS3. Weapons are almost all based around quality, and you need FP for weapon arts even if you aren't a caster. Nothing feels distinct or different, the whole game is one big blob. At the end of the day, the only reason to build your character one way or another is purely for looks.

Anyone got any cute or lewd Lucatiels?

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>>153415273
me too bruddah. It's sincerely my favorite game in the series, despite being probably the most objectively flawed. I'm trying to get all achievements right now, and I'm almost done. all that's left is getting the ng++ wellager spells, and the last sunlight spear spell, which I'm just gonna grind the falconers for.

which game should I do the chievos for next? 1 or 3?

>>153415689
>when you aren't sure if the tabs are genuine or not

>>153414474
the base game of DaS2 has good parts but is overall very bland and boring. there's a lot of throwaway and unmemorable bosses (which every game has, but are highest in frequency in DaS2), and a lot of the areas are very inspired. there are also some encounters that, frankly are more like a parody of Dark Souls than anything else, and more reliant on trial-and-error than careful observation of the environment and being patient.

the DLCs are fantastic, though

there's also the fact that the DaS2 shitpost squad is constantly talking about their game being the best + shittalking the other games that agitates everyone else.

>>153415273
>start out deprived for fun
>punch my wya through tutorial
>find dagger
>dagger my way through FotFG
>find shortsword
>shortsword my way deeper into the fort
>find halberd
>halberd my way through last giant and pursuer
>use branch on straid
>grab PUGS
>PUGS way through the rest of bastille
>start new path
>switch weapon again
>and again
>and again
I think I went through about 50 different weapons through the course of my last DaS2 playthrough and never once two things with the completely same moveset.

For all its faults, that game did some things right.

>>153415798
they're just comedy podcasts homey, they're genuine.

>>153414761
What times are good for you, anon

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>>153415689
What do you want with Pate!?

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>>153415672
For you, big guy

>>153415646
>Everything feels the same in DaS3.
this is blatantly untrue. stop listening to the 'anything that isn't quality is shit' meme and actually make faith/pyro/magic characters.

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>Horace's armor was taken from an executioner he killed in the cathedral of the deep
>The executioner's greatsword can be found outside
>Gives a reward on kills like the ring of the evil eye, and has the same icon beneath your resourcebars as the ring
>Horace probably got this ring from the executioner and gave it to Anri as a personal gift
>Upon realizing he's dead or just giving up the search for him, she gives it to you
I thought I was supposed to feel proud upon cucking someone. I didn't want this.

>>153416059
I wanted to see what shield he used, might do a pate cosplay in 3 when I'm done with the achievements thing.

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>>153414929
>>153415031
Speaking of Forest's, I feel like we've never had a really good "Forest" themed area in Soulsborne. I would love something along the lines of Fangorn Forest. Imagine dense spiraling tree trunks and maybe some darkroot like structures.

>>153416143
Thanks!

If im mainly using fists what should I use as back up

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>switches mid fight to a curved greatsword
gee i wonder that move he's gonna use

>still no cute male level-up husbando

why?

>>153416442
More fists

>>153416442
for pvp? whatever you want to unzip when you start losing because you're using fists

>>153416612
ive been winning at least 70% of my fights

>>153416162

My first character was faith knight and my current character is a pyro.

>>153416470
cgs 2h running attack should be unparriable
all other cgs attacks should be parriable

ags 2h rolling attack should be unparriable again
ags 2h rolling attack should not be considered thrust damage, should not get bonus counter hit damage, and should not be affected by the leo ring

that is all

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>>153408653

>>153416485
Because that's gay anon, are you a faggot?

>>153416830
Was breaking your arm worth it?

>>153416849
it would be gay if the people that want this were male

i am male, but it would be nice if grils had eye-candy to look at too

>>153416690
Meaningless.

>>153416814
>ags 2h rolling attack should be unparriable again
it still is

>>153408653
>>153416830

I wish it had the original 1H R2 stab from DaS1 that sent niggas flying back like chumps.

who was more evil, p8 or cr8?

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>>153416485
>ywn have a qt level up bf who bullies you over your poor stat allocations

>>153416954
You know boys aren't allowed in /dsg/, right? It's a girls only club

What is it about Taurus Demon that makes his fight last way longer than Vordt? Is it the speed of the game or do bosses have way more resistance in DaS1?

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Is this fashion?

>>153416717
i don't know, I have a faith and pyro too and they play vastly different, even in PvE to some extent. not sure how you think they're just all the same.

>>153416954
>but it would be nice if grils had eye-candy to look at too
>Andre with all his manly man self over there doing man work with his everything exposed
>not a single topless girl in the game
>if you don't like beefcakes, you can always snuggle with orbeck
>if you're into kinky shit, hawkwood is over there
honestly, you're denying this yourself

>They don't know the real shit behind Horace and Anri

>Elite Knight (Oscar) in pre Dark Souls 1 trailers was hanging out with Black Iron Knight (later appears as Tarkus in the actual game), walks away and does the gesture

>Anri gives you this gesture

>Horace ditched her and ran ahead in the Catacombs, for some reason
>Black Iron Knight wearer invades here, called the "Knight Slayer"
>Anri makes it past fine, takes no grief from him, probably was never invaded by him, oddly
>Horace winds up in smoldering lake, where the actual physical form of this Black Iron Knight is also hiding

Horace went ahead because he knew Tsorig was waiting and wanted to deal with him. He managed to get both their asses stuck down in the smoldering lake.

>>153417154
Vordt, like most DaS3 bosses, repeatedly gives you openings to dump your entire stamina bar into him attacking. DaS1 bosses rarely do that unless they're gimmicks like Moonlight Butterfly.

>>153417224
legs are too thick

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Lads, I'm currently at Huntsman Copse in SotFS and am wondering WHAT DO. I killed mostly everything in the area, and defeated the dark soul after the spooky skeleton cave, kept walking past the waterfall and discovered a dead end.
Should I just traverse the bridge and fight that huge guardian looking dude towards the fog?

I already killed Last Sinner and Scorpioness lady girl thing

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>>153416849
but what if i'm a girl and want a level-up husbando with a nice voice, like pic related?

>>153416976
nah, the damage is still bugged but it's parriable nowadays

>>153417393
There's a path under the waterfall that's kinda hard to see, and a boss in there.

>>153416950
so many weird animations. like the parry on curved swords.

>>153417013
but that would make it a more fun greatsword, we can't have that

>>153417271
>forgetting eygon, the tsundere bully with a sexy voice

POOR
CHILD

>>153417518
kk, thanks kind Anon

>>153417224
a proper fuccboi

you should host fcs

>>153417460
>mfw Chester gets tsundere if you defeat him in the invasion

>>153417271
>>if you're into kinky shit, hawkwood is over there
>hawkwood
>kinky

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>>153414474
Personally:
Expectations vs reality
Soul Memory
Coming from Dark Souls 1's level and world design DaS2's was pisspoor/average
Lots of wink winks and nudge nudges towards 1 but little-to-no actual substance to them
Movement and gameplay feel like shit comparitively
There was a stat that gave more i-frames and made your Estus not unbearable slow to use
Incredibly unbalanced even for a Souls game
Could temporarily revive NPCs if you killed them
No full eye orbs
Lots of ridiculous shit like getting to the highest rank in the main invader covenant or 1000 invader kills for the Lingering Dragoncrest +2
Has the worst fanbase to deal with out of all the games

In my opinion Dark Souls 2 did a lot of the small shit right like being able to use multiple souls at once or changing things for NG+ or being able to have jump on L3 but completely fucked the important stuff. The fanbase is awful to deal with and will trash literally every other game and try to pin it on the other games' fanbases due to how much shit DaS2 got back in the day. The people that refused to admit that DaS2 did literally anything right were irritating but that's not a fucking excuse, DeSfags back when it was just DeS and DaS were more bearable. I honestly just don't even talk about DaS2 anymore except for when people post questions like this, not worth the hassle and it's beating a dead horse. Overall a lot of people don't think it's bad, just not a good Souls game. I disagree, it varies between mediocre to completely awful, basically Lords of the Fallen tier but it hurt rather than simply being a purchase I regret because it's a Souls game. I do appreciate all the small comforts and quality of life improvements it brought to the series though.

TL;DR It was a letdown/deflation of hype or mediocre/bad depending on who you ask.

>>153414984
>>153415913
Irregular work schedule. Can't say.

>>153417708

I was planning on it, when I get back into streaming. Still working on my first playthrough right now, PvP comes later.

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>>153417764
>tfw I have no face
>>153417794
Dudes into dragons and transforming, he's pretty weird

>>153417794
he's a scalyfag in denial, probably does scat and is into vore too, like all dragonfags

>>153417485
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWEaDeF_-E8
only the WRR1 one handed is parriable

having a hornet ring equipped should default all parries to the same recovery frames of parrying shields

>>153416830
oh I fought you and you kicked my ass.

>>153417285
>Horace went ahead because he knew Tsorig was waiting and wanted to deal with him.
But Tsorig can just invade you though. I mean he can be summoned to fight himself. On top of that, Anri makes it up past where Tsorig invades before you do, even though you still get invaded.

>>153417546
>forgetting Leonhard, the aloof distant guy who only has eyes for a girl much uglier than you

>>153418102
what did you use? I lost a lot tonight so I probably remember you

>>153418008
Wow. Awesome!

>>153417128
There are no girls, only cute pcfcbfs, back to /u/

>>153416830
best greatsword, best helm.

>>153416830
I never understood how people use greatswords well. When I actually do win with them, I feel like I'm just an R1 flytrap people run into, and that I only won because my opponent goofed or something, yet people like inferno and other people who record themselves can pressure people with the twin princes sword and evidently the BKS. I can do well with spears and CCS pretty consistently, and I don't feel like I make ultra weapons look any worse than anyone else does; what am I missing?

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>>153417764
…Oh, you!
You have quite some nerve. Or are you just thick?

>>153418146
oh fuck you're right
>ywn kill rosaria so leonhard has no choice but to pay attention to you

>>153417898
Are Fridays/weekeend better? Give me a timeframe and I promise I'll try

>>153414740
Reverse image search. Manga title is only two words.

I want to make a fat weaboo character and call it

Fedora of Astora

What armor looks like a better trench coat, Fallen Knight or Black Hand?

>>153418793
definitely gotthard's armor

>>153418618
>stealing her soul and blackmailing him as you cut every other finger

I just want to become the Yandere

>>153418793
Is Velka's school shooter coat in the game? If not, Black Hand armour, and I'm sure you know to use the Pharis Hat and give him a neck beard

>>153409217
>League Confederates are co-op.

The confederacy is based as fuck.

You get to be a racist and drive out the vermin of vile degenerates

>>153418793
Sage Hat
Winged knight armor
artorias leggings and gauntlets

>UGH, I DONT MEAAAAAN TO SEEM OVERBEARING BUT WOULD YOU PLEASE FIND ME SOME FUCKING SORCERIES ALREADY? I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY GIVEN ME TWO INVALUABLE SCROLLS DETAILING THE WORK OF THE SAGES AND ANCIENT OOLACILE BUT C'MOOOOOON. YOU PROMISED.

Fuck off Orbeck.

Is there any reason to use Onislayer Greatarrows over the regular Dragonslayer Greatarrows?

>>153417898
Well, I'm usually not working on Sun/Mon/Wed so if you're free and you want an FC, just post in the thread

>>153418793
Prayer is the tip fedora gesture, someone post webm

>tfw incorporate kicking into my knight cosplay
>sprinting into kick
>jumping attack into kick
>r1-kick>stance+R2 followup charge

i don't know why, but I feel like it gives my fighting a really strong style. even reverse backstepped into kick-r1 some guy

>>153416395
If you didnt like the snake forest on the first time in Bloodborne then you have bad taste.

>watch jojo's bizarre adventure after hearing about it here
>it's actually alright

fuck you /dsg/, you've turned me into a weeb

>>153419354
How quick is the running -> kick transition?

>>153419487
It's fairly slow, but people, on instinct, try to parry running attacks.

Parrying kicks is never a good idea; parry tool stability translates stamina damage. Parrying tools do not generally have this.

>>153419354
supposedly the Horsehoof Ring gives your kick a longer stun, enough stun to land some ultra r1's and a few other weapon class r2's

>>153419449
Watch a movie called Redline

>>153419340
Yeah, but the duel bow gesture looks way more autistic.

Not sure if I want to go with Washing Pole poking, or Onkiri and Ubadachi for the anime L2 art.

With Carthus Rouge, of course

>>153419449
Read the manga and the other one woth the elf posted here

>>153419019
Haven't you seen enough of these wretched beasts, freakish slugs, and mad doctors?

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Rate my fashion
No bully pls

At what level does Refined become better than Raw?

I feel like for SL100-120, the damage benefit is not worth the 40/40 str/dex investment, but I haven't experimented much either.

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>>153419449
You should read the manga too

>>153419836
Shit, just like mushroom people

>>153419672
>>153419354
>Example: https://youtu.be/H4TcFsMOdtA?t=493

>The stagger from a horsehoof kick is significantly longer than a normal kick, and it allows time for various slower attacks, such as ultra weapons or various weapon arts (spin to wins and charge), to land. The kick, however, does not cause instability status, so there isn't a damage bonus as there is with normal kick.

>UGS- 1h r1, 2h r1 will universally work. 1h r2 thrust types will not, but 2h r2 thrust types will. 1h r2 overhead types will, but 2h r2 horizontal sweep will not. BKGS 2h r2 works.

>GAxe- 1h r1, 2h r1, and 2h r2 will universally work. BKGA 2h r2 only works without warcry (same as BKGS). Yhorm's works with or without warcry, but the damage without warcry is higher.

>Great Hammer- 2h r1 universally works. Everything else, unfortunately, does not. Spin to win on the spike hammer works, but that's more of the spin to win category.

>Weapon arts- spin to win universally works and will connect on all hits (exception being ones that can be extended like winged knight axe and dancer blades). Charge universally works and will connect on all hits. Did not get to test wolf gs.