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terrible OP, see you next thread

my build > your build

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>>153402159

have they released the patch notes yet

>>153402893
Has all the oxygen in your body been released yet?

>>153402529
All the things I mentioned are things they have claimed Jonathan is doing. Or been thanking Jonathan for.

Anon do you consider yourself a software developer?
Do you have a good estimate of what a single developer can do?

I say I have these things and it's not unreasonable. Its a lot of work certainly but it's not unbelievable or impossible. What makes me believe it is more the issues they are having than the claims they make. This is why icewall has gone unfixed, dominating blow is still just unplayable while bloodlines is in the game, we didn't get the prophecy lady in our hideout. These are all very small things to fix. But Jonathan is busy. That's the theory anyway.

>discordfags circlejerk time
im out

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>>153402159
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>>153349442
>free
>>153350297
>free
>>153355668
>free

>outfags complaining time
im in

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patch notes when

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are they bringing Rigwald back??

>>153403568
Ya are you gonna buy another level 80 rigwald kill this league ziz? You'll need to buy 30 this time one won't suffice.

>>153402773
where is the cuckcrow version

>>153402427
>In addition to that we just recently had multithreading being done.

I've always thought multithreading was part of PoE. It's crazy to think it took them all these years to add that.

>>153402159
worst support NA

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>>153403903
the engine was originally designed for the popular Never Obsolete home pc, which used a single core Celeron CPU

>>153403659
is rigwald good

>>153403659
is rigwald that a hard fight? i totally skipped talisman

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>the PoE comic completely ignored the Rigwald lore/backstory even if he was supposed to be active during the Purity Rebellion

>>153404202
No, he's easy but Ziz tried tanking the wolf barrage attack and died

>>153404309
: my power went out [x]
my game froze [x]
I couldn't see the bearers [x]
it was a lag spike [x]
it's bad game optimization [x]
my latency is really bad on this server [x]
I didn't expect to get one-shot [x]
my logout macro didn't work [x]
that shouldn't have stunlocked me [x]
I COULDNT MOVE MAN [x]

>>153404382
But you're still the most "skilled" player in the game don't worry Raiz you played back in the day bro you are the best pat yourself on the back and cheer up.

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>>153404301
thus is the inevitable fate of minor characters when you try to squeeze all the lore within 100 pages

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reminder that if your build don't/can't use wb with stacked attack speed, then it's SHIT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ6a3tBfI4Y

>>153405662
while i agree
the test is absolute bullshit because it completely ignores stuff like stacking massive ammounts of attack or movespeed

a bow build might according to the map move faster than a wb settup just because it doesnt get stuck on edges (abyss and shit)

wb will always be masterrace because of fortify so leapslam will probably always be a second

someone should test how much the animation fucks with massive attackspeed stacking because i was using leapslam on my hege eq char and it felt really fucking fast

>>153405662
Shield charge can beat whirl now with alchemists of adren quicksilver, onslaught, vaalhaste because it scales off IAS and movespeed it becomes really dumb if they nerf whirl again I will vaalspark with shieldcharge.

>>153406205
>alchemists of adren quicksilver
keep you shitcrow opinion to yourself

>>153406205
planing same build with same concerns/solutions
but i really dont want to use a quicksilver, i will miss rumis too much

>>153406365
why dont you just go back to farming dried lake with your perma ic juggernaut?

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>>153405662

>not specifying LW level and not using less duration support

retarded

>>153406365
Literally used on a level 100 char in proph hc by ar objectively the strongest quicksilver option.

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>>153343891
>fucking retarded
>>153347282
>retard
>>153348484
>retard
>>153351670
>retard
>>153352204
>retard
>>153352286
>retarded?
>>153352447
>retarded
>>153352898
>retarded
>>153356478
>fucking retarded
>>153357081
>fucking retard
>>153359228
>retarded
>>153361898
>retarded
>>153362628
>retarded?
>>153366810
>retard
>>153367657
>retard
>>153368003
>retard
>>153369532
>fucking retard
>>153377721
>retarded
>>153379375
>Retard
>>153382862
>retards
>>153387370
>retard
>>153389752
>retarded
>>153392870
>retard
>>153392976
>retard

>>153407680
thats new

>>153407680
discord called

they want their gojira buttplugs back

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>>153403223
ohayou aniki

>>153407680
retard

>>153407680
how many free (you)'s did you guys get? I got 2.

>>153407680
Mfw I get 0 (you) because this poster knows I am an elite HC player with many level 100s and love masturbating to witch feet.

why is fevered mind so expensive...

lmao did you read the patch notes? poe is finished

>>153407879
only alive people may post in this thread

>>153409512
obviously dumpass

do you think a ghost is posting in /poeg/ lmao

>>153409718
that anime girl isn't alive

>>153410087
she's alive in my heart

i hate every single one of you

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>>153409539

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1716228

>>153410475
POISON BTFO
BLOWN
THE
FUCK
OUT

>>153410649
>nerf from 10% to 8%
>double dipping yet not fixed
nah, its still the most OP shit around

ok who said intruders in black gave a bismuth flask

do we have an insider

Descriptions of damage ranges have been changed from "x-y" to "x to y" so that it's more clear when examining the ranges of mods that an Essence can add.

What kind of retard would have been confused by this previously?

>Zana got a new VA

FUCK

>open unique strongbox with 5+ tormented spirits and 3 rare monsters
>bunch of useless rares and not a single unique
nice game poetards

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>>153410475
>Immunity to debuffs has been reworked to be consistent. In all cases where a player gains immunity to a debuff, they now also have that debuff removed (as opposed to just not allowing further application).
TOLD YOU THEY'D BUFF GULPFINDER

Since we introduced trigger gems, players have been able to trigger their skills faster and faster with each update. The performance and gameplay consequences of this extreme skill spam have finally justified a redesign of how some trigger gems work.

For Cast on Critical Strike, Cast on Melee Kill, Mjölner, Null's Inclination and Cospri's Malice, only one skill can be triggered per trigger event. The damage of Cast on Critical Strike and Cast on Melee Kill has been increased, as described in "Active Skill Gem Balance" below.

C O C IS FINISHED

F
I
N
I
S
H
E
D

>>153410475
>no nerfs to my planned build
dicks out
what does channeled actually mean, wasn't flameblast already a channeled skill since you had to charge it?

>>153410475
Frost Walls created by you or your allies are now no longer considered enemies for the purposes of projectile collision detection (your projectiles will not collide with your own Frost Wall). This intentionally fixes the exploit case where a player stacks many Frost Walls around a boss and uses a skill like Piercing Lightning Arrow to trigger an excessive amount of hits.

WANDERFAGS AND BOWFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
LMFAO

The only thing that stink is poison nerf - it's still to o strong

Everything else is amazing

>Discharge now deals 35% less damage when triggered.
fucking based ggg thats 1:1 what I posted. I'm still going my cast on cast discharger

Vaalspark didn't get nerfed at all apart from a minor pierce nerf. CoC got triple penetrated nerfed harder than anything ive ever seen. I guess I am vaalsparking the entire league.

>>153411558
>Cospri's Malice
? Nothing on google, i havent been keeping up with new uniques tho, what this?

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>>153410475
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

A SINGLE CHANGE JUST FUCKING DESTROYED THE MOST BROKEN BUILD IN 3 LEAGUES

ENJOY SHITTING BLADEFALLS AT YOUR FEET, MINEKEKS

Wait so they buffed damage of melee skills? I didn't think melee needed anymore damage, I was hoping for utility or something :/

>>153411959
There's some spoilers and art posted of it on leddit, apparently it's the new unique developed by the same guy that made the broken as fuck +1 curse override hexproof poison hexed monsters chest.

coc is really fucking finnished. Wheres the use in running more than one spell now? Trigger equilibrium? Fun = Gone

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>Blade Vortex now has a stack limit of 20 (down from 50). It now deals 63% more damage at level 20. The number of hits per second causes substantial performance problems. The skill was also deemed too strong against bosses.

50 - 20*1.63 = 17.4
BV just lost 17.4 blades worth of damage at max stacks. This is a nerf of 34.8%.
I was planning a BV Necro for 2.4. Kill me. Just kill me now.

Blade Vortex now has a stack limit of 20 (down from 50). It now deals 63% more damage at level 20. The number of hits per second causes substantial performance problems. The skill was also deemed too strong against bosses.

So instead of fixing the performance issues they just nerfed it. Thanks GGG, I guess I'll forget about starting the league as BV.

mjolner and coc discharge S H I T on


holy FUCK im cumming

>>153410475
FOTM BUILD BTFO

destroyed:
[X] any CoC build
[X] CoC discharge (2 times)
[X] BF mines
[X] voidheart
[X] reach of the council
[X] LA/KB pierce (wanders on suicide watch)
[X] BV

>>153412374
>>153412413

It's still going to be good...

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>>153412164
Googled and only found some kinda shitty art, although i fuckin love mjolnir so maybe another casting weapon could be fun

>uniques have randomized stats

wtf? who made this game?

>>153412458
Endless Standard tears. GGG just pissed off 25% of their playerbase.

>>153412462
How is a nerf of more than 33% any good? it's garbage now.

>Zana, Master Cartographer has a new voice actor.

nooooooooooooooooooooo

>>153410475
>500ms delay
>only 1 spell triggers
For what purpose

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>Inquisitor wasn't nerfed at all
>my fucking face when

>>153412458
oh yeah also forgot
[X] juggernaut
[X] elementalist

>For Cast on Critical Strike, Cast on Melee Kill, Mjölner, Null's Inclination and Cospri's Malice, only one skill can be triggered per trigger event. The damage of Cast on Critical Strike and Cast on Melee Kill has been increased, as described in "Active Skill Gem Balance" below.
>Cast when Stunned now also triggers when blocking a hit that would stun.
CWS not listed in the trigger nerf, is 75/75 necro CI cws spam finally a thing?

>>153412490
All he said was "it's a sword". Don't even know if it's 2H or not, though it looks like it. It might be a weird graphic for a 1H sword but it's definitely not thrusting.

>>153412745
DELET THIS

>>153412682

ho noes! instead of 200k dps i will only have 120k :(((((((((((((((((((((((

>>153411985
Lmao dude, like just go traps and throw them haha

I'm gonna level as that, 2% dmg nerf on poison is laughable.

I'm pretty sad they took out some of the most fun interactions out.
Like frostwall could at least function as a wall where you'd get 5 hits instead of piercing and getting 5 for every wall.
And coc could have something like -10% dmg per spell supported and a negative multiplier.

Like this, its the softcore pandering that kills fun tohou builds.

Discharge nerf is awesome tho. Much appreciated. Also bladefall Mines btfo. Melee eeh it still looks good.

>>153412752
It was also listed in the trigger section along with mjolner and CoC so it casts something, was hoping there'd be more info tho

>>153412717
>Coc nerfed

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The damage bonus of the Less Duration support gem has been reduced. At level 1, it has been reduced from 20% to 10%. At level 20, it has been reduced from 29% to 19%.
33% nerfed, fuck me.

>>153412718
Why elementalist? It's a nerf to conflux, so it's only a nerf if you are a prolif build. Did I miss some other nerf to elementalist? As long as Primordial and Paragon are the same my build will still work.

Melee buffs my fucking ass. Shut the fuck up Chris you fucking faggot nigger.

>>153412794
>>153412745
How would this build deal with bosses that don't hit a ludicrous amount of times? Seems pretty shitty lmao

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>my poison roa build survived the patch notes

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melee will always be shit

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>Zana, Master Cartographer has a new voice actor.
Over the line. Fuck you, Chris.

>>153412868
>CoC is the only inquizmaster build
idiot

>>153411896
planing on doing the exact same thing

we lose 10% more dmg
i think we will make it
maybe just drop one attackspeed jewel for a damage one

>my super secret build was buffed
>it still can't do uber izaro

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>Blade Vortex now has a stack limit of 20 (down from 50). It now deals 63% more damage at level 20.
Oh wow, now you don't even have to be a caster to have full stacks of BV

CHRIS WILSON JUST TOOK THE LIFE SUPPORT OFF LMAO

>Poison now deals 8% of Physical and Chaos damage as Chaos Damage for 2 seconds (down from 10%). While we have future plans to fix Poison (addressing double dipping), this nerf brings it slightly more in line until we can make those changes.

rip

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>path of stopwatch

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>>153413062
>Inquisitor didn't get nerfed
>This thing hampers a bunch of inq builds
>but this other stuff didn't get nerfed
'

Braindead Juggernauts on suicide watch
Braindead Elementalists on suicide watch
Best patch ever

it's over, poe will never recover

how does poison work again?

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>shitters finally getting what was coming to them

nice patch

>Blade Vortex now has a stack limit of 20 (down from 50). It now deals 63% more damage at level 20.
uh you didn't need 50 stacks to kill shit, and 63% more damage is insane

>>153413331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfprRZQxWps

Shaper of Desolation now grants different Confluxes over a ten-second cycle: Chilling Conflux for three seconds, Shocking Conflux for three seconds, Igniting Conflux for three seconds and then all three together for one second. Each Conflux means that any damage causes that Status Ailment. Elemental Conflux was too powerful. The new version requires more strategy (and doesn't need a kill to get started).

>The new version requires more strategy
>requires more strategy
>more strategy
>strategy

What did they mean by this? lol my strategy is 10-stack flameblast and win the game, idiots.

>Added a channelled skill system. Incinerate, Flameblast and Wither are now channelled skills.
w-what? oh its just a label? so what the skilltree will now reflect that?

>>153411657
it's probably a tag now, like how attack, aoe, projectile etc works

>Essences work like chaos and alchs
So whats the point of chaos and alchs now?

>>153413419
hahahahhahahahah

>>153413474
its just a new way to manage mana cost (which also kills cast on cast incinerate builds)

think of D3 channeling

>>153413663
>all those people theorycrafting how to get it over 100 mana

>>153410475
Shit, I was running blade vortex, kind of nerfed.

>removing braindead builds

thank you chris

>>153410475
Looks good imo. Why did they buff Reave though?

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>>153413596
for the same thing they've been used for..maps

>>153413774
too many juggs running eq, now have fun reaving

Isn't that an indirect buff to BV though...? You need 30 fewer blades to hit max, and you can now add another damaging skill on top vs bosses while your 20 blades keep spinning

>>153413231
Let's be serious most inquisitors played vaal spark

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>melee "buffed"
>increase monster life

>>153413709
vaalspark is still great

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>kids think a 30% nerf to one of the most op skills automatically makes it shit

70% of a fuckton is still a fuckton nerds

>>153413231
what inquis build got nerfed?

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>yfw your build didn't get nerfed

>>153413901
its easier to play now, simpler to manage stacks. you do lose out on some damage but its still a top tier build

>>153412374
Explain that math, please.
I'm not sure what you're doing there.

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HAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT HAS THIS RETARD CHRIS WILSON DONE TO HIS GAME

>>153410475
So, is this the real thing?

>>153414189
Fixed it from the hands of shitters like you

man
every player that still likes to clear maps fast will now play vaal spark

how will i acquire my fucking sac harvests when the price will be 3 ex+ ?

>>153414013
>can no longer run OP build with 0 investment
>can no longer power through content letting your damage carry you

THATS what people are upset about. They'll actually have to invest and maybe fight atziri for 15 seconds longer.

And in those 15 seconds they will fuck up and die.

>>153413231
who the fuck plays inquis coc?

>>153414159
difference of new max stack vs old 50 stack = 17 blades (adjusted for new damage buff)

>>153414382
>>153412374
You don't need max stacks for BV retard.

>>153414467
im not that dude, merely telling that other dude what it meant, nigfag

>>153414159
Calculating the difference of DPS at maximum stacks, 50 right now and 20 in 2.4.

If a blade deals 1 damage now, your maximum dps is 50 * 1.
If a blade deals 1.63 damage in 2.4, your maximum dps is 20 * 1.63.

Thus the difference is 50 - 20*1.63, or 17.4 blades worth of damage.
17.4 * 100 / 50 = 34.8% nerf at maximum stacks.

>>153414467
>You don't need max stacks for BV retard.

But its still a nerf.

I mean, technically for leveling and early game its a pretty damn huge buff though, right?

>>153414467
You don't need it for trash, but the skill just lost a LOT of its burst power vs bosses, at which point you might have to ask yourself why you're using a melee spell over Bladefall.

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T-thanks

Ok guys thats it. Cast on Cast Inci probably is no longer possible with the channeling mechanic (maybe it is with a macro tho, i'd try that just to piss off ggg)

Going essence train fuck everything

>>153414728
it's okay, cleave got more damage
melee is fixed, thanks GGG

>>153414650
>I mean, technically for leveling and early game its a pretty damn huge buff though, right?
It's not a 63% damage buff across all levels, it can start much lower. Just like flame totem which is pretty garbage during leveling but gets better once you approach max level

>>153414798
What is this Cast on Cast thing? new unique or something? Havent seen anything

>>153414798
>Cast on Cast
What?

>>153414728
>nerf to ranged skills
>cries about melee
???

ok the ener charges were hit, but what did you expect, its not like only melee used that.

Yo, I'm a guy who just want to play for fun. Thinking of just making a new account and starting completely over mostly because I forgot my old account info and just want to summon a shit ton of skeletons and stuff. Is there an up to date passive tree build where I won't get ass rape by Piety, the Abomination? For whatever reason I could never really get pass that boss with a full on Necromancer build. Maybe I'm just stupid with it.

>>153414728
melee is more than 2 ascendancies, faggot
take your (You) and leave forever

>>153414975
can you read

>>153414565
ah, ok.
Thanks dude.

>>153414931
>>153414895
That new unique helmet kitava something2

>>153415080
yea the ranged skills that use melee weapons were nerfed namely lacerate and EQ.

>>153415035
just play srs and kill her in 3 seconds

Cast on Cast with Less Duration Blade Vortex, build tanky then stand on the boss and cast bv

>>153415301
Not as fun when there isn't like 20 skeletons in the room with me. Seriously though, actually using spells myself is the only way of killing it easily? Skeletons are just ass to it? That is kinda a bummer.

>>153414728
lion

>>153415490
Skeletons are crap at everything

>Bosses that had a reduced effect of curses on them now have a multiplier rather than a reduction. Over time, more and more curse effect has been made available to players. With the boss curse effect reduction being additive, the increased curse effect available to players overwhelmed it. Temporal Chains and Enfeeble arguably still trivialise most bosses.

>tfw this is actually a real patch note

>>153412374
The other way to look at it now you can reach the same power as ~33 blades in 2.3 with the cast time of only 20 blades in 2.4. If you used Echo before (10% less damage), it might not be needed anymore.

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>Ice Spear: 70% more damage.
Ice Spear inquisitor permafreeze- y/n?

>Cast when Stunned now also triggers when blocking a hit that would stun.

now this is interesting.

Want to know who the real winner of the CoC changes are? Trypanon With 110% Increased Attack Speed and Cyclone you will attack just under 2 times per second, this will trigger the CoC off cooldown since it now triggers 100% of the time when you deal a crit. So Just do Cyclone-CoC-BladeFall-ConcentratedEffect-LifeLeech-IncreasedCriticalStrikes

who going to farm perandus zana mod all day

>ice spear
>70% buff

well, now it has a whopping 700 base damage and practically ignores all resistance if you're an inquisitor.

still a bit wary of its clearing speed though, 5 shots that only pierce early on and has otherwise no aoe is kinda lame.

>>153415947
if you get at least 2 chests / run and cadiro once in a while: All day every day

>>153415871
>>153415962
sounds good with the new +1 proj ring tbhwyf

>>153416102

mm yeah with gmp and 2 of those rings you can actually clear quite decently i suppose.

losing 110% mana regen from both ring slot sucks though (in addition to the life/resists).

>>153415962
play as a perma freezer and you will be loved in parties

I'm just happy they addressed EQ, CoC and Frost Wall. Whatever new meta we get, those cancerous builds are now gone/on par with the rest.

>>153415962
I'm thinking
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAUBAPndi4ztYai5ApbAmpx7DFLSfAmqkm7Z_LxWwGYEs0VHogAy0fAf4XPr7po7fIOCmxEt7DgsnClPOtgFQmu35CInL0GWhX0abNWmkFWus9D1NukaOEyzJKoEBy0fIG4Wb4PblSBQMPrS42pVxsHzHRQ6WKKjjmR_xvemkycRlrb674gHHg5I-TeVLl3y44TXz_DVKgsN0RvISbGP-klRcFJjQzY96_WJ052qZJ3DCYw2bIzyHbmTVUtirGHitMUmlcLsFr8FtSpbjb959lFHQzbnVFLsJP3_3prgRZ1TUisKAx4fQQ==
maybe
leveling might be ruff

>>153416284
perma freezing is a thing of the past, back when people couldn't oneshot packs
nowadays you don't need freeze because most packs will die in one shot and you can't freeze most bosses

>>153416098
its 3 chests every time and a chance for cadiro once in a while

>>153416306


EQ is still gonna be top tier because they only lightly nerfed it, and somewhat nerfed Poison (for now).

They still need to stomp on that shit some more and make it trash.

>>153416371
this
the change to status ailments also killed permafreeze/shock builds

>>153416457
They nerfed Jugger charge generation too, no more full charges on hit(only 30% of the time now)

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>>153414060

>>153413203
uh, no

>5-10% damage increase on some skills
Melee is FIXED!!!

I'm still only gonna play Flameblast :(

>>153415630
I kinda like the fact I can walk casually in a room and there is a war going on while I just loot shit. Also exploding skeletons can be fun too. I guess I'll quit being a lazy shit and start casting spells then. If I'll be doing that I may as well make a real build and put Necromancer on hold for now.

I might just go boring Marauder and learn some useful red gems.

>>153416759
as they buff monster life in maps

>>153416759
Reave and Ice Crash are looking very good now, Melee Splash is also a lot better.

apology for poor english

when were you when CoC dies?

i was sat at hideout prepare maps when Chris ring

‘CoC is kill’

‘no’

>>153416938
actually laughed irl
thx anon

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I NEVER played a CoC build as I always considered it to be a cancerous playstyle/game design and I'm very happy GGG finally killed it. AMA

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>>153410475
goodnight /poeg/

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10% increase on skills literally no one uses
2 melee ascendancies nerfed
eq nerfed
hard to get end game damage increaser (voidheart) nerfed
monster have more life

MELEE FIXED

>>153417168
Time to finally play it and be a hipster contrarian.

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>>153417168
why do you hate other people having fun

>>153417306
smokie

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>>153417312
>Ancestral Warchief player's fw

>>153417312
Frost Wall fix halved the single target dps of LA babbies. Nerf to ranged is a indirect buff to melee

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>>153410475
that's it?

>>153417516
>halved
Much, much more than that. Will also need two six links and/or switch bow for single target now.

>>153415947
me
need a varunastra for my gladiator build

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>>153417656
this
not even new skills
what the fuck were they doing this whole time

>>153413709
>redditfags shitting on yotsuba with this god awful edit
Kill yourself for posting this here.

>>153417656
it will literally change everything about end game and meta game, see >>153412458
that's a few years of meta you can kiss good bye

>>153417168
what's you'r ign?

do you want to map with me?

>>153418095
I hate partying for the same reason I hate CoC faggots spamming 50 spells per second on the screen

>>153418203
you didn't answer either of my questions...

>>153417312
MORE, not increased.

Just wasted over a thousand fusings trying to get a 6 L.

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>Large-size hideouts can now hold seven Forsaken Masters rather than four.

>>153418420
realistically you only need zana elreon haku and vorici so whatever, it's nice having them all by medium size hideout though

CoC nerf bakedchicken and steyox on suicide watch.

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>Zana, Master Cartographer has a new voice actor.
>Zana, Master Cartographer has a new voice actor.
>Zana, Master Cartographer has a new voice actor.
>Zana, Master Cartographer has a new voice actor.

why

Is cold snap any good?

>>153418658
Racist to Russians ;^)

hit me with a sadpanda link

>>153418749
wow really makes you think

Holy shit at the CoC tears in the PoE patch notes post.

Fucking glorious.

>M-muh legacy Mjolners!

>>153411225
>THIS WAY, EXILE
r i p

>>153417516

just fucking use tornado shot.

pathfinder's +1 chain makes GMP ts clear insanely well, and tornado's ability to shotgun makes it rape bosses as well.

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So is anyone doing a melee build (non EQ) upon reading these patch notes?

>Want to try out Mine BF this league
>See notes
Oh well, back to Trap BF!

>>153418352
>>153417312
to continue tho, yeah melee hasn't changed much since casters and raned builds dont have to pay gem taxes (melee splash is a penalty, fortify is an increase rather than a more, etc etc) and can just toss in as many more multipliers as they can for shitloads of damage--which was the reason why EQ was so stronk, since it could benefit from reduced duration and conc effect's huge multipliers and didn't require melee splash or fortify to live (though fortify was fine as a sixth).

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>>153418658
Good. Hated her voice from the start.

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>>153410475
nice game desu

What does this patch mean if I want to play 2h sword double strike?

Is it possible to reliably self-freeze yet? I haven't played since pendarus, where I wanted to try a self-feezing build but couldn't. Have any new uniques/mechanics come with prophecy/essence that allow reliable self-freezing

>>153418967
is this a new meme?

this is the third time i saw this exact phrase posted today, up from zero.

>>153419385
>new

>>153418658
someone with an over the top (and still spotty) russian accent caricature with a bunch of russian players joining the main servers? gee i wonder.

>>153419225
does lightning strike count?

>>153419226

trap BF is like, 1/3rd as good vs bosses though..

Also raped the shit out of it's clearspeed, before you could lay like 10 traps as a saboteur and if even one enemy steps on it all ten bladefalls would smartly target an enemy.

now only 1 of them explodes near the enemy and the other 9 explode where they are (aka hitting nothing)./

BFtrap and mine is gonna suck ass.

>>153419314
Your build is in another league

>>153419225
2H crit Static Strike Inquisitor :^)

>>153419225
still going to keep using flicker strike, especially since i can actually level haku with it now.

planning on trying out frost blades, but it was decent before already.

>>153419309

what le fuck?

>>153418658
I'd imagine they had to add some shit relating to the atlas but couldn't source the pre existing; which is why i assumed they originally changed haku and shit.

>>153418630
they'll both go back to vaal spark, don't worry

>>153419594
Do you play Oro's elementalist or?

>>153411720
>fun mechanic that was mostly making subpar builds work on single target removed is good
kys my man I wanted to play KB in 2.4 ;_;

>ggg took this long to change how frost wall works
>finally did it and made EA useless

>>153419385
It's an /int/ meme popularized by /pol/fags recently. It's best to ignore it since nothing useful will be said by that poster anyways.

So what is the point of CoC now, if i read the notes right, it can only trigger once per attack and it doesn't cast all spells similtaneously; so it's astronomically nuked (not that i played it). The whole point was to trade up front damage for the ability to cast a shit ton of spells but now, you just have a more convoluted route to cast spells.

>>153415962
>haast will now rape you so hard, your future offspring will be frozen

As if that fucker needed a boost

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>>153420318
Trypanon anon

>>153419962
i have an oro's elementalist i'm levelling presently, and a massive crit/multi terminus est assassin.

getting down towards duelist while keeping up power charges (until i can get items to fix that) has been a right fucking bitch.

>>153420318
They should add it to the tree as a keystone desu.

Skills that are 5 linked are casted on critical

>>153420318
GGG really assfucked it and the only offender was discharge

now that elementalist, and therefore all spells are dead, I'm gonna play Pathfinder BV. What are the pre ToH, Vinktar, Rumi flasks? I'm assuming it's like a granite, stib, and whatever, but I'm trying to set this up on my own, and I know if I go look for shit I'm gonna try to optimize my tree up to it.

>>153420539
Good thing I bought 4 of those before the league ended

>>153420598
I've tried making a duelist but you can't run ele reflect maps no matter how much leech you have, does the Elementalist fare better?

>>153420539
>only way to do it is to go discharge
>with the nerf to the spell, despite the more buff to coc it will still do less damage than before

its over

>>153420686
GGG should've changed up discharge so it's channeled; hold the button to consume charges and release to explode, have it usable while moving. Would've been rad

Bring out the bear traps niggers

>>153421187
Nigger poster please go

So should I play D3 instead?

>>153420859
cant say yet, still levelling her up. though even with the 50% reflect reduction, she'll likely suffer from suddenly-explode-itis

>>153420890
discharge isnt the only CoC spell to use. shit like blade vortex, arc, a couple of ice spells, etc. were all fine too (though the BV nerf hurts).

>>153421309
yes. fuck your ass off our gen

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>Blade Vortex now has a stack limit of 20 (down from 50). It now deals 63% more damage at level 20. The number of hits per second causes substantial performance problems. The skill was also deemed too strong against bosses.

THEY NERFED MY'RE BUILD

>>153421318
yeah, I guess I overreacted a bit. but... BV seems kill as well now considering the new cooldown

Just getting into the game and I'm looking at builds but they're a bit hard to scan/understand unless you know the game already.

Can anyone help point me toward decent fire templar builds?

>>153421404

Don't be mean to me it was just a question

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>>153410475
>Zana, Master Cartographer has a new voice actor.

>>153421427
Just put less duration on it ;^)

>>153421543
flameblast

>>153421463
i plan on using CoC vortex (the cold one, not the knife one) personally. maybe on flicker or something so i can shit aoe degens everywhere

>>153421543
just play and figure it out

you can ask all day but you'll never get an answer, and not because we hate you(we do), but because the game is too complicated to explain easily

>>153421543
quad crit fire totem

>removed 2 of the most flashy and fun builds while not adding anything new
>removed wanderer single target thus removing 99.9% of them completely from the game
>nothing done to useless shitty melee skills
>double dipping untouched
>bows untouched
>scion not buffed

B R A V O GGG

>>153421543
grab gear that increases spell damage (wands, staves, etc). choose a fire spell of choice (flame blast, incinerate, flame totem, etc etc), pick up elemental, fire, spell damage, and anyhtin else that skill wants (some skills want more cast speed, some want more or less effect duration, etc etc) on the tree--as well as the all-important defenses and health/energy shield.

you should do passably well without needing to optimize until the later levels, by which point you will have learned more about how the game works and what you want, allowing your next character (or your current character respec if you have shitloads of currency) to handle exactly the way you want.

>>153421638
reminds me, they didnt nerf it and buff ice nova.

lol holy shit GGG, did you just forget that skill exists?

>>153421983
they haven't shown off the two New™ OP™ Channeling™ Skills™ yet, just noted which existing ones were changed to channeling as well.

>>153421909
>play after a one-year break
>they took out the mana lady

Their priorities are fucked

>>153422162
Unless you can move with those new skills while you channel like a fuckin laser beam that circles around you while you whirl they are trash.

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>>153410475

I'm so fucking glad its finally over.

The stupid fucking bullshit 1 button spam builds of CoC discharges and shit.

CoC literally ruined this game so fucking hard and I'm glad they've finally addressed that stacking literally nothing but crit and 4 CoC supports on your armor is not an ok way to play a game.

It's so fucking brain dead it shouldn't even be considered a build.

There is literally a guy on there bitching about how is CoC discharger with shield bash is no longer viable and he hates this game now.

Really?

You're going to hate this game because you can't perma AoE stun t13 packs all day and get free damage from support gems that literally do all the damage for you?

CoC ruined this game.

I'm glad they've taken it down to where it should be. A fucking support gem, not a build gem. Blade Vortex is fucking gone too, thank christ. Running around spamming skills JUST to get stacks of a skill that does damage around you while you left click the ground and watch furry porn on your second monitor is also fun to people?

I can't wait to see the builds that come out of this patch now. Maybe some actual god damn gameplay will happen for once in 4 leagues.

Someone play chain Rolling Flames Fireball and tell me what happens.

>>153421427
You're build blows frog faggot.

>>153422257
Uh I will just vaalspark all day nigger this changed literally nothing in fact vaalspark is my favorite build so I am happy

>>153422205
wow baka. stop being such a mysogynist asshole

>>153422278
But how will I deal with bosses/singke target?

>>153422257
>I can't wait to see the builds that come out of this patch now.
TRAP bladefall poison.

Earthquake still on top for melee.

Seriously

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>cast on crit nuked into oblivion
>bv shit now
>la/wanders won't kill bosses now
>muh reave buffed
>skill tree barely changed since 1.3

worst patch of all time

>>153422257
>There is literally a guy on there bitching about how is CoC discharger with shield bash is no longer viable and he hates this game now.
i bet that fag never played back in the day

anyone who did play pre-CoC knows how much more fun it was

>>153422396
The same way lightning arrow and kinetic blast do now ;)

>>153422053
which is hilarious, since chris specifically pointed out that they needed to address ice nova being straight worse than cyclone in that one ziggy podcast interview.

>>153422227
>a fuckin laser beam that circles around you while you whirl
stop. my penis can only become so erect.

they might be alright for bossing I guess, but I don't see them being any worse than pre-channeling flameblast (which was damn solid)

>>153422550
ummm... ?

>>153422278
Fireball only explodes once so chain is useless. Best setup is max aoe from tree, aoe gem and GMP.

>>153422345
Umm, didn't Spark got nerfed and made so the sparks disarm as SOON as leaving the screen?

Why would you ever play that?

I saw the 70% buff to ice spear which got me really excited. Then I realized it still deals less damage than frost bolt, and the secondary effect is completely useless because you're already so insanely overcapped on crit because of the 7% base crit chance.

I guess I'll just play the ice spear build I made but substitute in frostbolt...

>>153422716
can't splash them on frost walls to shotgun fuck bosses anymore tho. dead skill.

>>153422730
Literally bakedchicken shilling the thread to protect his vaalspark build.

What is the one build you would recommend to someone new to the game and wanted them to suffer?

>>153422671
Spoiler alert: You don't.

>>153422904
wild strike or elemental hit

>>153422730
Have you not seen the videos of it after those nerfs?

>>153422749
I guess it'd work best with two snakebites and chain. Less damage than frostbolt sure but being able to chain helps coverage. Meanwhile you can just stack less crit chance and go full multi to get in freezes.

>>153422904
Traditional summoner. Sounds awesome on paper but is complete aids to play.

>>153422904
Just make your own build should be fun for a newfag

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>>153422257
>Blade Vortex is fucking gone too

You guys think they'll "address" poison double dipping during the league or after?

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>perandus with zana this league
>tampon makes a comeback

>>153422904
Energy Shield build, most noobs don't know what chaos damage is :3

>>153422843
That shit didn't work half the time anyway. Just lead the boss to a wall or use flame surge, you'll be igniting them with fireball and stacking AoE anyway.

>>153423071
poison was literally designed to double dip, my dude. it's here to stay

>>153412857
>2% dmg nerf on poison is laughable.
You're not thinking about it correctly, it's a 2% damage nerf from 10% to 8% on the portion of damage it takes off of the hit of phys/chaos damage, thus the damage over time of your poison is 20% less. It's a 20% damage over time nerf of poison.

>>153423078
Crits are dead anon.

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Power siphon is such an underrated skill.
Might as well roll with it like I did in the good old days.

>>153422982
>>153422882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-6XlvT57mw
Looks underwhelming

>>153423071
Considering their difficulty with their own code I wouldn't expect it until 2.5.

>>153423262
>voltaxic

>>153423060
it's what, about 35% weaker overall (via the math that anon did upthread)? that's still a shitload of damage when optimized, and a good chunk of damage as a secondary skill as well.

the upside is that you dont need to invest as much into effect duration to hit the cap on them, so you can add more damage to compensate, i'd think.

>>153423262
This is bait shouldn't you be shitposting on reddit steyox? Instead of shilling that spark is bad with voltaxic spark videos.

>>153423049
That the best way to play honestly. Once you learn your shit and can min-max then you can't go back. Having a horrible character and learning why he is horrible is part of the fun imo. It isn't like a week of casual play can't get you back to where you were. Just a shame that most things until the final act barely test your build.

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>>153423162
it worked 100%

>Just lead the boss to a wall or use flame surge
l m a o

>>153423370
it's only weaker at max stacks

you don't normally run around with much more than 20-25 stacks. it is a lot worse for boss farming though

>>153422278
I was fucking with it in Merci Dried lakes with a setup that was almost as good as an actual build and it was awful. I tried pierce but the aoe is on the explosion so it doesn't really do anything. I think the best move for this is to prioritize the on hit explosion, but FB costs a ton of mana so you'll need to work on sustaining the cost while also not having extreme wave clear, but it should do an unreal amount of dmg to what it hits. Only problem is I don't know how you kill bosses now that Ice Wall is useless.

>>153423262
>>153422730
current record gorge i've seen so far is vaal spark with whirling blades to just zip through the level as the sparks kill everything onscreen as you pass.

>Earthquake damage nerfed
>Earthquake radius nerfed
>Less Duration support damage also nerfed
>But Ground Slam has 19% more damage now melee will totally be viable!
fucking idiots at GGG

>>153423442
>>153423334
>>153423580
Ok:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-6XlvT57mw
Still terrible

>>153423619
you appear to have simply linked the same video again.

>>153423619
Trying to protect the last t1 build left nice try link an inquis with whirl and not a dogshit player playing it like ziz someone who is good at vaalspark

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>all the shitcrows crying about their shitty shitcore builds being nerfed on lebbit lmoa

>>153423875
>cast on crit is a shitcore build
t. retard who never made it to 93+

>>153423845
>>153423849
Oh shit I meant to link this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jda7jlUy6og

I mean SURE you can make it "viable" but it's not like before like it was 1 cast = 2 screens, now it's like 4 casts = 1 screen.

>>153423993
CoC was a free build, retard

>>153423539
I played it back in talisman when fireballs would explode maybe every 1/5, the rest just flew right through the frost walls. If they fixed it since then I missed out.

>>153422904
Anything totems or RF

>>153423993
never reply to me again

>>153412458
>voidheart is a build

http://poeplanner.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

Planning a Tanky Crit Blade Vortex Scion, if I get my hands on a Kitava helmet I'll probably throw a Bladefall into the helmet for extra damage.

absolutely will not be clicking on that link

>>153412458
>tfw my DoT gladiator still hits close to 100 on both on a well rolled voidheart anyway

>>153423248
The major upside of power siphon has almost vanished because of how easy it has become to generate power charges.

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did they fix the SRS lag issue?

>>153424805
Yea SRS max amount has been reduced to 10 but given a 112% more damage boost to make up for it.

>>153417168
I'm still going to make a CoC build. You just need to pick an attack skill and a spell that can benefit from the same support gems and nodes; CoC + the spell become an augment for the damage of your normal attack instead of you just using a wimpy max AS attack still to trigger as many spells as possible.

>>153424187
I had all the balls explode when hitting frost wall on prophecy but now that frost wall is gone well...

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How big is 21 aoe radius?

im making a 7k life berserker with lots of armor and about 150-300k tooltip physical dps(depending on how many knives I want) plus 40% from blasphemy curse.

Is it big enough that I can just run around like an asshole and speed clear things?

actually i can lower the damage a bit and up the aoe radius to like 24 or 25.

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>Zana got a new voice actor
Good, sassy black Zana always felt out of place.

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>>153425058

>people actually like that Zana voice actor got changed

This is a new low for /poeg/

>>153425342
>liking zarya

>Autistically cherishing a few sound bytes from an annoying NPC

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>>153425058