/kfg/ - Killing Floor General

first for kevo

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Post your main

3rd for missing the entire dialogue options.

4th for still not being able to get the frickin' server browser to work

is it true that trip have called in all their old voice actors to come back and record more lines of dialogue?
i think i remember hearing them mention it but i could be wrong

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Alright got a little something I need your opinion on here /kfg/.

For some reason or another I want to know what your thoughts are on these different aspects of the game, specifically anything to do with maps

Remember that all this is 100% anonymous so there is not reason not to be 100% honest about your choices. I expect some bias in your choices but you can select multiple options so nobody needs to be left out.

Greatly appreciate any feedback you can provide.

Poll 1:
http://www.strawpoll.me/11118887

Poll 2:
http://www.strawpoll.me/11119116

Poll 3:
http://www.strawpoll.me/11119128

If you have any additional questions or feedback on these please post in the thread so I can get a little bit more info on what else you might have to say or what's confusing you.

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>>153396048

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>>153396048
Attitude of Foster with the professionalism of Wilkes. All I ever wanted.


>>153396638
Voted

>>153396638
>No defense
Meh.

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>>153397013
I actually ran out of slots to include maps. I figured cube would cover the "Defense" style maps.

Thanks for letting me know you like that map though

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>SWAT

Are there any servers that don't allow this waste of a player slot?

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Never made anything in the workshop before

How hard would it be to make a jailhouse rock suit for Mr. Foster?

>>153397265
SWAT kills until Scrakes. Such an easy money-maker.

>>153397279
Texture replacements are fine and there are plenty of guides out there to help you out. There are even some in the OP as far as I'm aware

If you want to change his model it's nearly impossible. You can thank Tripwire for that

>>153397441
In TWI's defense, they're still figuring out how they want the game to be. They don't want people changing models and hitboxes in the erstwhile.

>>153397382
>Only useful for clearing trash
>There are already classes dedicated to this role

>>153397612
it's clear that TWI want SWAT to be a long-term tank capable of get in get out gameplay style.

Give it time.

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>>153398113
Then they should have left the beta up instead of letting level 0 swats ruin every game I'm in

>>153397612
Is Commando better at SWAT for this? I want to main a class up to 25 and Firebug apparently sucks ass for DPS on bosses. I wanna be semi-useful, I can't aim well enough for Sharpshooter and I like assault rifles and the like, and SMGs.

Please spoonfeed me.

>>153398189
Everything is better than SWAT.

Rarely one might accidentally throw a flashbang at a Scrake but that's about it.

>>153398174
Just accept the game is in beta until it's not. Which may be 2 years from now.

>>153398492
The game is out of EA in 2-3 months

>>153398189
Both are viable, you can be more trigger happy with SWAT but ultimately Commando is more reliable since it can one shot a lot of stuff with SCAR-H. SWAT I find better against crawlers because you can spam bullets at enemies feet and get rid most of them easily

>>153398617
It's TWI. RO2 may as well have been in beta for 3 years.

>>153398489
>>153398631
That sucks ass. I love the Kriss, it's a cool gun. I wish the perk it was associated with was better.

>>153392542
Add scripted shit to future maps.
-Husk lights an inaccessible basement on fire, smoking up best place
-Hey koolaid, fleshpound spawns behind a wall and breaks it down, opening up a new best place.
-The fragile ceiling breaks under the weight of three bloats, opening a new zed spawn point, making best place shit
-Elevator breaks
etc
Should probably happen as the last zeds spawning of a wave, to not catch people by surprise too much.

>>153398719
They should have just made SWAT a variant of Medic

>>153398719
One thing SWAT does very well is you can rush through corridors pretty well, a competent player can do this with Kekmando or Support too, not to mention Senic GS

>>153398942
Support with reload + DBS is basically DOOM 2

And it's amazing.

>>153398829
They've already tested dynamic maps with Black Forest. (Some walls of the cabin can be broken open with zeds)

For some reason though they've forgotten all about this. I fucking want dynamic maps.

have they added the fucking marksman yet?

>>153400084
Yes, and like KF1, you will spent 90% of the time with your arse being bitten off by Crawlers.

>Albino Crawlers

What have I done to deserve this hell

>>153400084
Sharpshooter has been in for almost 3 months now

how to make swat less shit

>revert mp7 damage nerf
>reduce mp5 clip size to 35 but increase its reserve ammo
>increase kriss damage to 35
>change passive damage buff to 10% + 1% per level
>add +1 max grenade capacity every 5 levels as a passive
>remove berzerker's night vision and put it on swat
>fix that level 5 skill that causes your armor to degrade twice as fast
>give 2% discount on armor / level
>make ammo not so fucking expensive

there u go decent perk

>>153400047
>Including that piss poor technical test as an example of "dynamic maps"

Community has outshined TWI by a landslide

Please see:
Nuked
Mall
Antarctic
Garage
MGS Sniper London

For a few examples of how to do dynamic maps well

>>153400189
that, I can deal with

good to know

>>153400302
last time I played they had just added the shitty pistol class

>>153400525
>Nuked
>Mall
>Antarctic
>Garage
more like
>/kfg/ has outshined TWI by a landslide

>>153400350
i vote for HAT to be changed to also halve the cost of armor, and for it to make it so 4 damage to armor and 1 to health instead of the normal 3-2

>>153400350
how to make swat less shit

>remove from game

>>153400525
All we can hope is that they learn FROM the community instead of trying to teach TO.

Let us pray.

>>153400350
how to make swat actually fun and not just another "shoot boolet" perk

>gib shield

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>>153400274
I like them. They force you to move around and stay together. The gas does seem to hang around a bit too long though, especially with how many of them they throw at you on Sui/HoE.
>mfw the Support on our team kept hitting albino crawlers with stay pellets and the whole area filled with toxic farts

>>153400804
Or give it parry bonuses? That'd be a great way to teach the mechanic to the crowd that most likely doesn't actually know it exists.

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Anyone else feel TWI has spread the perks too thin?

Already there's a lot of overlap with class purpose

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>>153400998
>special attack with smgs becomes a parry

good

>>153401036
They promised 10 perks before having any clear idea of how 10 perks could be used, could work together or could differentiate themselves from each other

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CURRENT PERK RANKINGS:

(0. Field Medic)
1. Support
2. Demolitions
3. Firebug
4. Commando
5. Berserker
6. Gunslinger
7. SWAT
8. Sharpshooter

like and subscribe if you agree

>>153384201
>vlad might be viable if you're really low level
I completely forgot this ting existed

why haven't they done something to make it useful

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>no riot shield

>>153401036
not really
they just keep overlapping niches instead of actually diversifying them to different roles

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>all these people bitching about SWAT
>can singlehandedly cover one side by himself unless spawns are a bitch and throw 5 fps at the same time
>can 1v1 scrakes and fps with no issues
>has a shitton of ammo
I seriously don't see why people get so buttmad over the swat, it sends more bullets flying that the commando.

absolute shitter downloading as we speak here.
what class should i learn?

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>>153400350
How to make SWAT less shit:
+20 +1% armour resistance every level
>2% discount on armour per level
>keep weapon on full auto
>replace toggle fire with a taser attachment under the SMG's
>taser works like an EMP only it hits one target and requires you to keep focused on the target but the duration is much longer
>somethingsomething shield

>>153401298
I like shotguns but I feel more like a man when I shoot pump shotguns. How do I make this work? I like support.

>>153400047
They tested making some things break, but not making anything that matters break to actually affect gameplay.

They also made it weak, one good hit and gone, while for it to be trusted for any time, it would have to hold for a few waves until something definitive, like a scripted event.

>>153401983
swat and firebug have basically the same role except firebug is better at performing that role. swat isn't bad, it just isn't the best choice, which doesn't really matter because you pick whichever perk you find more fun.

>>153401298
>3. Firebug
Whole list instantly discredited.

>>153401298
>anime
>support at top
You got my vote, post ID so we can play

>>153401983
because commando has zed time extensions and is therefore better, firebug can penetrate and do dot so hes better, sharp and support can actually deal with fp/scr effectively so theyre better, etc
nobody cares about your dakka if you arent actually contributing to the team

theres healing, trash clearing, priority target focusing, panic clears, etc, swat doesnt really do any of that specifically so they made him more powerful on average to compensate for not actually having a reason to exist which is stupid
everyone was always speculating on him being the "tank" side of kf1 medic but they didnt go full dick in that direction so hes just pointless

>>153402496
Do you like shooting things?
Commando or SWAT
Do you like sitting back while your team does all the work?
Medic
Are you like that, but like explosions too?
Demo
Are you a 1337 gamer sniper?
Sharpshooter
Are you annoying?
Firebug
Do you actually want to help the team but can't aim?
Beserker
t. Medic main

Yeah but I don't like being blind while shooting, with the firebug you kill trash like no ones bussiness but you bound at some point to fuck up and torch a fp or a scrake.
Meanwhile swat can just drop 1-2 flashbangs get in, magdump the fuckers and get out.
Which kinda makes the "Special Weapons And Tactics" more relevant

>>153400804
Why is SWAT all submachine guns? Where are the special weapons and tactics?

>>153402913
I meant it in a kind of "which class would you like to see most" kinda way, but thanks for that info.

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>special weapons and tactics
>specials weapons are a bunch of SMG's
>the tactics are throwing flashbangs and maybe sprinting into zeds if you actually took that perk
Really SWAT is just a fly swatter

Want to try out sharpshooter, its currently at level 1. how do I play sharpshooter?

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>>153401298
>cuckbug is at 3rd

>>153403425
Aim to the head, always.
Your weapons are either slow or have a lot of recoil so you are not that good against crowds of tiny zeds.

>>153403425
Either get 400xp a game with the railgun or play with the M14 exclusively.

You'll prefer the latter.

>>153403425
railgun and medick smg

>>153400990
Albino crawlers are fucking up the game, and doing nothing at the same time. If you have a good choke you're not going to fuck it all up just to stop 1 DPS, however the existence of this shit makes armor worthless unless you're way in the back as it's just a constant field of no armor.

HOW TO FIX SWAT

Fucking RIOT SHIELD

>buy from trader
>hold 'f' to deploy or remove (like night vision for commando / berserk)
>when deployed replaces iron sights for all weapons with guard
>with shield deployed 'v' replaced to shield bash that stumbles zeds
>100% durability, equivilant to 200 armor or more depending on tuning
>reload speed weapon switch speed lowered with shield out but can still use smgs, pistol, and knife

optional

>sprint into zeds with shield to knock down

>>153403753
I like it

Give a dynamicness to the game

>>153403054
because tripwire is bad at their own game and dont understand how roles other than "can kill everything" work in a team environment

>>153402913
>leaving out funslinger and memeport
baka

>>153403126
In most instances people will say medic because you keep the team alive, but actually playing its kind of shit and being forced into that role 24/7 isn't fun when everyone else is at it. As that anon says its down to preference? Do you like just spraying bullets? Making shots count? Like something different to your average bullet shooter?

>>153403779
I was expecting something like this all along, but instead we got generic SMG Commando

>tfw it finally clicks and you hipfire dualies for headshots all damn day

Still can't aim the eviscerator for shit though. Blades seem to fly a foot above the laser sight.

I fucking hate these lvl 1 players who start on hard and up thinking they can compensate for the perk doing no damage with skill alone. You're just dead weight, get out, reeeee!

/blog

>>153403126
I''d like more support and demo just fdor supplier. But a good player makes any class great

>>153405564
I'll make sure to do it more senpai.

>>153405564
>hard AND up
Literally fucking baby mode, doesn't even have all the full mechanics of the game yet. You don't need levels to do this.

>>153403753
or just pick them off as soon as they appear so the zeds take extra dot damage

>>153401036
I wish some weapons would be multiperk.
So m4+203 could also be for commando, then they could make riffle with shotgun under barrel for commando/support, under barrel flamethrower etc.

>>153407206
all weapons should be crossperk
>support gets perk bonuses with medic shotgun, vlad, trenchgun
>zerk gets perk bonuses with all perk knives and all weapon bashes
etc

>>153407360
Maybe it would be stupid with many weapons that are with games, but yeah, it could be done.
I really like your examples.

>>153407206
>>153407360
>tfw no secondary perk system

>>153407571
i dunno i think it'd work fine, it'd be great for diversifying the field
as support you'd therefore consider should i pick the AA12 and DBS/SG 500/med pistol, or should i pick the AA12 and DBS/med shotgun

>>153407360
So like KF1?

>>153407735
Still, there are many weapons in game that wouldn't work, like for instance AA-12, how would you mix that so it still make sense?

>>153407918
kf1 didn't have crossperk bonus like that
kf1 had sharp having a headshot bonus on all guns and commando having a reload bonus on all guns
what i mean is perks having on perk bonuses with all guns of their class, so support for shotguns, commando for ARs, SWAT for smgs, GS for pistols, sharp for rifles, zerk for melee

how do you fight scrake with zweihander

>>153408174
Masterfully.

>>153407360
It worked fine in KF1, and really promoted unique playstyles/loadouts. I have no idea why they abandoned it in KF2.

>>153408174
Parry>Forward attack to its head>Repeat 3 times for a dead Scrake

>>153408081
see >>153408090

>>153408631
Yup, make sense, would be great to see it in kf2.

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>>153396048
don't have main, change skin every game

>>153408259
yeah there's a number of really neat things you have to check the wiki about in kf1
like the flare revolver, it's arguably better than any of the pistols for sharp because of its 1.5x headshot multiplier, as opposed to the 1.1x on all other pistols
and since the bonus damage for sharp on perk headshot is 60%, and 50% for offperk guns, the flare revolvers actually outdamage any sidearm for sharp
of course the drawbacks are the lack of any other perk benefits, the cost, and the fact flares can be destroyed by sirens/aren't instantaneous
>>153408972
no idea why it isn't in already or anything like it, really annoying

>MUH RIOT SHIELD shitters
kys yourselves

>>153407360
the problem with this is a. it would either make sharp obscenely overpowered or make sharp weapons obscenely overpowered, and b. overlap would be even more obvious and certain perks would be basically direct downgrades from others due to the better one being able to use the weapons from the lesser even more effectively

I wish you could pin enemies to the wall with crossbow, or at least their heads.

>>153409614
well like i said here >>153408090 it's about perks getting on perk damage bonuses with all weapons of their class
here's the full list in case you were wondering:
Berserker: all perk knives, all weapon bashes
Commando: medic AR, AR part of m16
Support: medic shotgun, trench gun, vlad, (maybe grenade pistol)
Medic: nothing
Demolitions: pulv alt fire, all explosive grenades if we could swap grenades
Firebug: nothing right now, maybe the blower thrower from kf1 if they added it
Gunslinger: med pistol, (maybe grenade pistol)
SWAT: med SMG
i think that's all of them

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>>153409534
> kiss your sister yourself

>>153409534
(your)

>>153410184
fug i forgot sharp
Sharpshooter: nothing right now, maybe if any other perk gets a rifle then sharp would get bonuses from that
you could argue assault rifles because of the m14 but that'd be unbalanced

>>153409534
KyS!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>153409534
>not wanting a new mechanic that would make SWAT more unique than Commando
>SWAT isn't even a team player like Commando's stalker vision and zed time extensions
If you play SWAT and there isn't a Commando on the team, you're being selfish and want the squad to wipe.

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>>153410184
>akimbo med pistols for cumslinger

>>153410205
I mean if she's hot and all

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>>153410579
>tfw no hot sister or sister at all, no gf, no bf nothing

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>>153401298

>Firebug 3rd
>Gunslinger 6th
>Sharpshooter 8th

I strongly implore you to consider suicide.

>>153410521
>new mechanic
Slightly better/slightly worse version of holding block is not particularly exciting.
>SWAT isn't even a team player like Commando's stalker vision and zed time extensions
Neither is Demolitions, Firebug, or Berserker.
>If you play SWAT and there isn't a Commando on the team, you're being selfish and want the squad to wipe.
kys yourself too you coon

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>>153410521

>>153410818
>>153411009
SWAT shitters lmao

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>>153411258
I'll have a good time killing trash and assisting with taking down the big guys. Having fun.

In conclusion: ur gay lol.

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>>153411624
#roasted his asslmao

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Are there any chicken costumes yet?

>>153411624
>>153411735
>Donovan Neal SWAT players
xD

Where the fuck is N.E.E.T Justice/Enforcer helmets mod?

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>>153412074
I play Masterson but nice try Reddit!

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>Player with anime avatar
>He doesn't play medic

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>>153412369
I'm the hottest demo player this side of asia

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>>153412113
you mean this one right here?

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New SWAT/demo weapon WHEN

>>153412884
>Justice/Enforcer helmets

>>153412113

It was deleted from the workshop within hours. I have no idea why. I've still got the pastebin up but the instructions are a bit outdated:
http://pastebin.com/3XCgm8Jy

Instead of overwriting the base game files, just create a folder named Cosmetics in C:\Users\[YOURNAME]\Documents\My Games\KillingFloor2\KFGame\Published\BrewedPC\Packages\Characters and you won't need to reinstall it every few updates.

>>153413016
M32 WHEN

>>153413016
The M203 is already in the game.

>>153413094
Guess I wasn't familiar with all the cosmetics

>>153413108
thanks

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>can't use hats + doll mask
>can't use justice mask on ana
>can't use gas mask on rae
>this is ok though

TRIPWIRE aauguggAAUGGHRGHHG

1858 Revolver | Constitution or Junkyard Racer???

>>153413814
Neither, worst gun.

>>153413814
If you're gonna buy a skin at least get one for a gun that you're actually gonna use outside the first wave.

>>153413814
the "drop it so it vendors for more" skin

>>153413914
>>153413994
>bullying the revolver
RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>153413914
>>153413994
>>153414027
Desert Eagle | Emergency Issue?

>>153413914
>worst gun.
>when nailgun is still a thing

>>153414196
MAKE NAIL GUN GREAT AGAIN

>>153414196
nailgun is decent though
it's just on a perk that doesn't need it in most cases

>>153414196
What the fuck am I even supposed to with that thing?

>>153413407
I've seen Tripwire leave little stuff like that all over their textures. Like for example:
>C4
>battery is called "MP, MOAR POWA!"
>"9V BATTERY NOT FOR USE WITH BOMBS"
>on the side it says "THIS WRITING MEANS NOTHING BUT ITHOUGHT [sic] IT WOULD BE A NICE DETAIL TO ADD SOMETHING ON THE SIDE OF THE BATTERY"

>molotov flare
>white cap reads "CAUTION: THIS WILL BURN THE FLESH FROM YOUR BONES. PLEASE DON'T BE A TOSSER WITH THIS FLARE :)"
>red cap reads "YOUR FRIENDS ARE WANKERS. THEY WILL TRY TO GET YOU TO MAKE BAD CHOICES WITH THIS PRODUCT WHILE INTOXICATED. DON'T DO IT! IT WILL HURT. YOU WILL REGRET IT. THAT IS ALL."

>>153414196
The nailguns great though?

>>153414349
That's legitimately great.

>>153414349
I like little stuff like this

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>>153414349
Amazing

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>>153412369
>6 medics
>everything takes forever to kill but no one dies
>all while ERPing

>>153414130
the shit revolver
get 500s

>>153414925
There's nothing wrong with the revolvers, the m1911 is the real outcast

>>153415197
God that clip size is shit.

>>153415197
>30 damage vs 50 1911
>545 RoF (dual) vs 600
>12 shots vs 16
>No penetration vs 1 Penetration
>2.26s elite reload vs 1.84s
>same weight
1858s are shit, fuck off

>>153415197
the m1911 is GS's trash clearer
the revolver is fucking garbage, the only things it has better than the m1911 is the stumble power/hit power
may as well just use the 9mm even though it isn't as good as commando's or SWATs

>>153415197
1911s shit all over 1858
>depending on ReU just to 1headshot gorefasts with your slow 12 shot turd

Fucking Tripwire. The drop system is broken yet fucking again.

>>153416183
1 drop a day is fine for me.

>>153416183
Daily drop system? More like daily drop grenades at your feet system, hahaha, amiright?

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>>153415197
>There's nothing wrong with the revolvers, the m1911 is the real outcast

>>153415197
The m1911 are way more telegraphed than the revolvers so I can effectively cancel reload, meanwhile the revolvers are shit overall.
I rather use the 9mm and sell the revolvers on the first wave

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>>153415459
>clip

>>153416183
Is that why I got 3 Standard Ski Masks?

>>153416789
clip

Why is 1858 so shit? She ruined the entire wave.

>>153407360
>>zerk gets perk bonuses with all perk knives and all weapon bashes
That's exactly how it is now.

>>153417123
i wasn't sure if it applied to all yet, since in the past it's been really on and off

>>153416630
I want this skin

>>153410554
Dual med pistols would need to have only shooting benefits, not darting benefits, or else it would make medshotgun and medsmg even more of a joke than they are.

>>153417438
It's in the OP MEGA folder

>>153417438
in the op
>Maps and Mods by /kfg/
inside: -Anon's weapon skins and modded Soundtracks

I want Fred Durst to be a a playable character.

>>153417490
you just use them as guns but also can heal teammates, ofcourse not as good as medic

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>>153416630
>>153417438
<-- the history

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>there are swat players in this thread that don't squat nor battering ram

>>153418347
now I want THIS gun

>>153418380
>people aren't picking the meme option
Whats the downside?

>>153418380
>Battering ram
>not Rapid assault and using the Kriss as a mini A-10
Do you even fun

>>153415536
>>153416029

so /kfg/, how do we make the revolvers not shit?

>>153418347
Missing the 2nd part where he shot someone with it and it's being held as evidence

>>153418663
They're only there because spawning with a deagle would be too good. .500 already does the "powerful revolver' feel perfectly, there's no real need for the 1858s other than them being something to spawn with.

>>153418701
And this is why you don't trust autists on 4chins with weapons

>>153418558
When do you ever get zed time in a good situation to use the firerate on anything? Just be a real shitter and knock down a Hans or two

>>153418663
remove them entirely and just make GS spawn with 9mms
give swat a special automatic version of the 9mm if he picks backup

>>153418380
Battering ram is underwhelming as hell.
Good for a laugh, but it can't even consistently do that.
Half the time zeds are reacting to something else, so they're immune to knockdown at the time, and you get stopped dead in your tracks.

vlad fix

>now applies berzerker speed buff when held
>damage per nail increased to 35
>is now boosted by all berzerker damage buffs
>toggle fire mode removed
>primary fire (m1) is single shot
>special fire (m3) is shotgun mode
>primary fire counts as light attack, special as hard
>light attack skill increases reload speed

>>153419239
>>damage per nail increased to 35
i wouldn't boost the base damage if you're gunna make it improved by all zerker damage perks, considering zerk damage bonus adds up to something like 135%
>>toggle fire mode removed
but why
>>special fire (m3) is shotgun mode
what keybind is that by default, bash?

and i don't think it's about the vlad being bad, because it really isn't, it's just on a perk that doesn't need it whatsoever due to it being unnecessary, it'd be like having a SMG on commando

>>153418663
1858s are naturally stuck with their 12rd sum capacity and somewhat slow reloads.
The only big way to make that worthwhile is to up the damage. Make it 43dmg or so, so that onperk, it can start do some of the things that the 1911s, 50dmg, can do offperk.
2bodyshot clots, 1headshot gorefast heads, namely.
Their weight could also be lightened, 1single, 2dualies.

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is this viable for killing the boss? Trying to maximize damage over time

>>153418536
>squatting makes you move faster than walking
>decreases spread
>other option is to not to be grabbed, when you're already the biggest clot killer
>when do you ever need 200 armor

and

>"muh kill a line of zeds with kriss"
>when really it's "waste all your ammo on gabe's/gorefast's shitty block who's first on the line"
>instead of picking a get out of any situation card that can knock down anything and give your team time to reload/run/kill other zeds

>>153419661
>using a firebug to kill the boss
Unless it's hans and you are using the memewave gun you are going to get shit on

>>153419661
>heat wave
Does it even work on bosses? The range might be safer.

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>>153419661
>maximize damage
>with Firebug

>>153419668
>>when do you ever need 200 armor
that perk doesn't increase total armor, it just gives you 50 armor to start with
>>when really it's "waste all your ammo on gabe's/gorefast's shitty block who's first on the line"
how do you waste ammo when it's unlimited

>>153418840
They should be a balanced "something to spawn with", instead of the worst "something to spawn with" by far.

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>>153418701

>>153418856
Shooting someone isn't always bad.
And when cops need to look into something, that doesn't mean it's always already determined to have been bad.

>>153419668
Battering Ram is inconsistent, it will kill you sometimes when you try and to ram something and it won't work, because that zed was stumbling.

>>153419551
it's mouse3

like i typed out

>>153419668
Rapid Assault gives you unlimited ammo, you're not wasting anything, and Battering Ram is extremely inconsistent since Zeds can't be knocked down if they're in the middle of certain animations

>>153420139
There it is

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>>153419948
>that perk doesn't increase total armor, it just gives you 50 armor to start with
so it's even worse
>how do you waste ammo when it's unlimited
meant to write wasting time, by not killing anything

>>153419661
Ground fire instead, faster damage and that slowing would be more helpful I bet.

>>153418701
>>153420139
>buy evidence bag on ebay
>lay gun on it
>????
>fool autists on 4chin

>>153420419
>nofunallowed.jpg

>>153420345
>so it's even worse
definitely it's a total shit perk, no point using it after you spawn
>meant to write wasting time, by not killing anything
how would you not kill anything with the highest rof gun in the game, which has the highest base damage of any swat gun, with unlimited ammo
it's literally a minigun in zed time

>>153420419
C'mmon men, we are talking about people who would masturbate a deer only to get better bait

>>153420210
>>153420309
>>153419021
you move slightly to another direction, thus ignoring that one (1) zed

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It looks like a nice skin, too bad I got it battle-scarred

>>153420646
to the next zed, also probably reacting to something

>>153420646
Or just blast that fucker with your unlimited ammo SMG, and the guy next to it, and the Scrake behind them because fuck it
Even better with a Comm extending ZT

>>153419668
there are like twelve different things wrong with this post

>>153420552
does it somehow make your smgs more accurate? is there any way to make it useful when your mag is empty? do your smgs still penetrate anything? what does it kill that you couldn't kill in normal time or with better positioning?

>>153420717
how do you let 2 zeds next to you

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>>153420205
Yeah, but I still wouldnt trust anyone on here since it holds a lot of mentally damaged types, no offense to anyone here

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>mfw microwave gun

Demo feels like shit to play now. Tiny radius. Low damage on non-direct hits. Missing projectiles/explosions. Just fuck my shit up.

>>153421145
running to them to try to get some use out of my crap zed time skill choice

>>153421145
>does it somehow make your smgs more accurate?
why would this matter
just crouch and hold down m1
>is there any way to make it useful when your mag is empty?
if you're empty it's your own fault for not topping off
>do your smgs still penetrate anything?
even if they did the damage SMGs do is so pitiful that the falloff would make it mediocre at best
>what does it kill that you couldn't kill in normal time or with better positioning?
it shreds anything you can point at

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>>153415197

>the m1911s, a pair of nice little guns that offer solid value for money, are worse than the 18shitty8s

WHAT in the world?

>>153421180
>Yeah, but I still wouldnt trust anyone on here since it holds a lot of mentally damaged types
Somewhat like earth.

>>153421673
True enough

>>153421454
Frag-rounds M79ing crowds and left-skills RPGing big guys is still good, but they ruined everything else, because their stats system said demo was doing too much damage, when it was probably including overkill on trash or something stupid like that.

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when are the modders going to get off their lazy asses?

>>153422252
What do you mean?

>>153422252
>wanting the community to do TWI's job
Why don't you get off your lazy ass and try learning how to make maps, skins, and mutators instead of relying on others to do it for you?

>>153422621
the benefit of a capitalist economic system is specialization. In fact, whenever a country starts prospering, its labor market specializes.

I can go to my job that I've trained for to earn money, which can exchanged for goods and services. Currently, there is a lack of alternate zed models to be used. I wish to use my valuable capital to fund the creation of said models

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Should TWI add the 'realistic' magazine reloads that adds +1 in the chamber if you at least one bullet before you reload?

Kind of like in Battlefield or RO2

>>153423276
Sure why not, 1 round wouldn't really make a difference but it would be a neat little thing

>>153422786

Did you just get out of your Econ 101 class for the day?

>>153423617
that's right, I'm college educated

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>SWATfags on suicide watch
>yfw you don't main a deadweight class

>>153422786
>Currently, there is a lack of alternate zed models to be used
They exist, TWI just patched the game so they don't work with multiplayer

>>153424001
why do they hate fun so much?

>>153424098
because it would compete with the DLC market

>>153424098
>First custom zed model on workshop
>Visible stalker

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>join sui
>constantly getting raped in corners in evac point
maybe i'm just shit today
>get to boss
>patty
okay this won't be so bad two guys joined this wave so i can
>patty hits me
>takes away what is left of my armor (53) and 95% of my health

>>153422786
most of the community custom zeds in kf1 were pretty shit
the shiver and brute were really the only good ones, maybe the hellfire husk since it's different

>>153424412
The sicks would have been good if they weren't just faster bloats

bloat variant concept: belcher

heals nearby zeds by a percentage of their maxed health

a giant fart cloud follows around the constantly flatulating bloat

>>153423276
Yes. +1 capacities from the chamber would be appreciable without disrupting the game.
And it'll be funny to see twi get mixed up and treat aa12 like it's closed bolt.

Full RO style, keeping multiple partial mags instead of magically loaded mags from an ammo pool would be too much of a bother for KF2's pace, though.

>>153423276
Can't find the TW forum post but i'm pretty sure they said "it's too much work" and didn't want to bother with it.

>>153424789
B-but they're gun nuts!

>>153420661
>implying mint looks better than battlescarred

>>153424527
yeah they've also got a really high body health and low head health, pretty dumb
some of these look like total shit, like the bloat/FP hybrid with 3 bloat heads and a FP arm
too bad they didn't revamp the FP chaingunner
>>153424723
maybe but the stuff would have to be a different color

Skirmisher or Dreadnought for first Zerker perk?

>>153425454
skirmisher

dreadnaught if you're into heavy camping/zerkwalling with a medic

>>153420401
It's really not. It barely slows down the things you really need to slow the fuck down.

>>153425591
but the damage is pretty insane against hans

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should i level support or demo

>>153425454
skirmisher if you like dying

>>153426196
Support
They're both pretty good though

>>153426196
I find current support to be a lot more enjoyable than current demo, so I'd say go with that.

>>153426196
Support for winning
Demo for fun

>>153425454
Dread if your medic isn't a fucking idiot
Skirmisher if everyone in your team is a fucking idiot

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>>153426865
>Dreadnaught if your medic is a fucking idiot
>Skirmisher if you're a fucking idiot
ftfy

>>153426196

You're going to level every perk and like it mister.

>>153425454
skirmisher if you have berzerker rage for your level 25

literally cannot die of you kite and parry well

>>153426196
Demo because explosions are the next best thing to fire.

>>153427414
>demo
>easiest class
>second most obnoxious because it makes the screen shake
nah

>>153427116
>implying the movespeed and regen isn't worth it when the rest of your team dies and you have to finish off the wave
>implying your fat ass will survive as the last alive when there's no medic to pump darts into you
Wayne Rooney's smarter than you!

>>153427740
Violence, motherfuckers.

>>153427786
>dreadnought + zerk rage
>43 hp every zed time extension
>dying
wew laddew

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>join game
>desync under 100 ms because of shit netcode
>it never EVER resyncs and I'm cursed for the next minute until I die

>>153416486
Third day without for me.

>>153416841
Probably, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a regression.

>>153428249
>relying on an RNG extension for hp when you're the last alive
>when skirmisher and vampire exist
kek mate

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>>153427786
>substituting an additional 75 hp for 'm-muh movement speed and 2 hp regen' when you could have a medic and zed time for healing
>Not having 100% reliable parrying skills for extra tankiness

Nob off, you idiot.

>>153415197
>he uses the 1858s

Is that you, John Wayne? Is this me?

>>153429042
>relying
it's a bonus, when you've got 75 extra health you don't need constant heals

>>153429058
Lets be clear here, if you have total trust in your medic dread is a must for wallzerking, but if anyone dies before 6th-7th then the medic is either doing a bad job or everyone is retarded, which only proves that there could be a teamwipe.
Skirmisher is just better to kite and solo around the map if you can't trust your team.

where the fuck do i camp on infernal realms, i keep getting lost since everything looks the same besides the grinder area

>>153431863
There isn't a good place to camp on IR honestly, the map do have a few chokepoints but thats it, everything else is huge and full of tunnels.
Good to round everything up in one stop and then just keep moving.

>>153432005
that's what i was doing, just wanted to know if there was a good spot or not thanks

>>153428803

Please do not mock Benhout Afflecki al-Islam.

>>153432320
Can't fault the guy for just parroting shit that every other hollywood liberal is saying. If he says anything different his life is pretty much a whirlwind of shit for the next few months, and he doesn't need that shit.

posting some ideas for mystery perk's grenade

>Willie Pete grenade
>sticky grenade
>tear/nerve gas grenade
>stielhandgranate potato masher thing
>thermite grenade

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>>153433617
>holy grenade
>inb4 last class is exorcist

>>153396048
are you me

>>153433617
Tomahawk or throwing knife, just maybe

>>153434104
Stalker coming? Hatchet coming.

>>153434104
>last character will be a racist "not zerker" indian or something

Someone explain to me what is the point of the sharpshooters grenades?

>>153433617
a bouncing betty would be good

>>153434535
freeze shit so you can aim?

>>153434535
To "balance" him with a garbage grenade/no AoE option.

In practice, it's just a separate stun timer that you can run down.

>>153434612
but it only freezes trash
also why not just give you a regular grenade that would kill the shit rather than freeze it in place?

>>153434689
>only freezes trash
2 SS nades freeze a fp or scrake

>>153434754
I see

>>153433617
>MIRV grenade
>portable nuke
>smog grenade (intense slow, zeds glow through it)
>tesla grenade
>implosion grenade
>bear trap

>>153433617
Remote nade would be very useful. Or a bouncing betty like another anon said

>>153433617
how about a decoy

>>153435824
You already have 5 of those

>>153435883
ex dee

>>153433617
maybe whatever it is should get zerk's grenade, and zerk can get a new grenade that pulls massive threat

>>153433617

A grenade that briefly immobilizes enemies.

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>>153437019
That's pretty original, anon.

They should give the demo a grenade cluster that explodes so hard it makes everyone screen shake like a bitch

>>153433617
I was thinking of something kinda similar to L4D's pipe bomb, would be pretty cool to have a bait grenade

I don't know why people are complaining about Berserker. He is quite good in pub.
Skirmisher means you can kite for day.
Fleshpound is easy af to handle with Pulverizer.
The only real pain in the ass is fucking Scrake as he is resistant to most of your shit. But thanks to the meme knockdown power that TWI just added to Pulverizer. You can just spam M1, knock Scrake down, dodge, parry, spam M1 again and repeat until Scrake is dead.
In a competent team set up, get Dreadnaught and Parry instead of Skirmisher and Resistance. With Medic constantly pumping bonus resistance and damage, you are literally invincible and just spam M1 to victory.
The only real downside of Berserker is their level progression. The passive bonus sucks dick and you have to wait until level 10 to feel the difference. Passive damage resistance should increases from 3% per 5 level to 4% (max 20% resistance) and you should have 2% move speed per 5 level (max 10% move speed) and 2% attack speed per 5 level (max 10% attack speed). Also stop the goddamn screen glowing in Parry skill

>>153437626
They should give the demo a rapid fire grenade launcher that generates a lot of smoke and screen shake. I was thinking something like the M32 would fit pretty well.

>>153438141
>Along with the newly released M32 Grenade Launcher, we are launching with it our new experimental smoke system through partnership with NVIDIA and their latest fog technology! Try it out with your friends!

>>153437962
>parry over resistance

but why

tedious as fuck having to refresh the bonus every 10 seconds

>>153438324
The bonus damage of Parry is always on (not sure if a bug or intended)
Only pick it when you have a competent team with Medic pumping resistance into you for you to be alive. Taking down Scrake as Berserker is extremely painful. You have to parry. You have to do it quick and clean cuz unlike Fleshpound, once Scrake rages, it will rage forever. I prefer Parry cuz the bonus damage is sweet af.

>>153433617
Pocket sand

>microwave gun revamped and moved to tenth perk which also has a minigun and the ZED gun + portable turrets as its grenade
>husk cannon added as t4 for firebug
>>153438293


what happen

>>153439563
>husk cannon added as t4 for firebug
PLEASE
Microwave Gun has to be the stupidest shit they've added into the game.

>>153439905
>>153439563
Why haven't they just added more weapons for the tiers? KF1 had that.

>>153438324
>parrying is tedious
can shitters fuck off?

>>153440127
kf1 had way less than 4 per perk at release
sidegrades will be 2017 business

>>153440127
Saving them for DLC.

>>153400804
My thoughts exactly, a riot shield could be a potentially interesting item to add to them

>>153440315
>>153440312
didn't they say they wont do those gameplay related dlc packs anymore?

>>153440312

You're bullshitting. Medic had no guns, Commando only had the Bullpup, Firebug only had Flamethrower, Sharp had LAR and Crossbow, and Support had DBS, Shotgun and LAW.

>>153440554
Does that not agree with what he said?

>>153440554
>way less than

>>153440521
they said they're not currently working on it
and even if they did say that, they could still do free content (to get players [to get steam market bux])

>>153440554

Well done retard.

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>>153439905
Oh come on, the Dobson Gun was pretty great before Firebug got nerfed to shit.

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>>153440554
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1472629660490.webm

>>153442049
No it's stupid in every single way.
>firebug
>most powerful weapon doesn't have anything to do with fire
fuck you

>>153400350
Discounts are dumb.
Instead of more armor to buy but it's cheaper, it should be the same amount of armor to buy, but it lasts longer.

Rework heavy armor training so that you take regular health damage like if you had armor without the skill, but your armor only degrades half as much. This benefit would perfectly reverse the current detriment of HAT.

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>>153396048
Masterson has a nice face if you can disregard his hair.

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>>153442291
Ah, fuck you leatherman.

>try to sell something on the market
>have to wait two weeks before the item even appears for others
>have to go through a million verification steps for two cents
holy fucking shit this is worse than setting up a hotmail account

>>153401298
Wtf why are those animes shaking those bottles? Don't they know what happens when they do that?

>>153400350
really, nobody?
>clip

>>153443536
yes, nobody is as autistic as you

>>153432005
With more than six players, the dead-end big door / tiny door place gets good.
With six, sticking roughly around the place with big stairways seems popular and half decent.
Like many maps, with 2-3 players, it's just a clusterfuck.

>>153443702
i am

>>153445305
sorry

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me on the left

>>153445830
isn't there an ambulance in front of the bottom tunnel?

>>153446308
can you find all the mistakes?
there are ?? in total

>>153437962
People complain about Berserker because he's been through so many changes. He's been a peasant to God and back to peasant again multiple times. Now he's pretty sweet. A money bags tank.

>>153446504
Well I'm sure some item spots are missing. There should be no car in the middle of the street to the right. The vendor location at the bottom left corner is all wrong.
Not sure about the office indoor area because lmao who goes there.

>>153445830
A trader in the police station would have been perfect to get the entire map frequently visited.

>>153445383
I just spend too much time on /k/

>>153445830
L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
N

>>153437962
every one i have played with recently just fucks off, which is a pain for me as a medic