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/scg/edg/ Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous General #32

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Welcome to the merged generals of Elite: Dangerous and Star Citizen.
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>Elite: Dangerous information:
http://pastebin.com/ZT9GWmaC

Gamescom info:
https://community.elitedangerous.com/eventseason16
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/bilderstrecke/bilderstrecke_3298445.html?back=3298273
http://www.gamestar.hu/gamescom/elite-dangerous-horizons-2-2-guardians-update-gamescom-2016-frissites-ujdonsagok-215519.html
https://www.youtube.com/user/FrontierDevelopments/videos
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>Star Citizen information:
http://pastebin.com/NhBwT5Zk

Gamescom info:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15451-Gamescom-2016-Details
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GucYhhLwIxg

>2.5 LIVE btw
Referral code randomize:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WNKNAuruiI1p5XGPjtVi_uwi8wPmuEYawOKQuhRXfdw/edit#gid=953337098
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>Other games:
http://pastebin.com/cugkem8w

If it doesn't have a general, post it here; just don't get upset about sharing. If it DOES have a general, please go. We don't need your baggage.
Above is a pastebin of games you can play while waiting for SC and E:D to become playable.
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first for i kickstarted this game a dozen years ago and still haven't played it
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second for play it now faggot
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Gladiator update when
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xh for Best Ship; Destroyer of worlds, Crusher of M50s.soon
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>>153363125
Hopefully soon. I remember the ship feedback guy making a Gladiator thread a while ago.
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It is just not realistic for someone to purchase a Huge Multicannon, that is literally the size of a sidewinder, and have it installed on their Anaconda in a matter of seconds. These things should take time. There should be a time delay during which your ship does not have anything in that hardpoint. It will force players to commit to a given loadout and not change it too often. The actual time delay should be based on how long it takes to swap a Deck Gun on a US Navy Ship. Perhaps 10% of that time would be appropriate.

Similar thing should be done with thrusters, FSD, and other (smaller) hardpoints).

Letting players have instant outfitting just opens the door to a very slippery slope into the abyss of players abusing outfitting.

Let me know your thoughts.
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>>153363125
What's wrong with the Gladiator? Other than the stupid bubble turret. Rocket pods will be added later as an option for any ship that can fit them

>>153363172
That ship makes me moist
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>>153363172
>>153362684

The thing that makes M50 swarms work is that they can shoot energy weapons forever, but they're fast and have the smallest profile out of any jump capable ship thus far. The Blade is going to be a massive target, so you no longer have the advantage of SH gun convergence going around the hull.
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>>153363217
My only hopes is they fix the cockpit seating position and rethink the shitty chair lift entrance.

Just give me a damn ladder, which is simpler and about as twice as fast.

>>153363286
see above

oh and the thing is fucking SLOW AS FUCK.
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>>153363230
Its like I don't even know what websites I am on.
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>>153362956
>referral code randomizer
>every first page load results in STAR-P7ST-9HDJ being shown first

You faggots really allowing this? That's the code of the guy who made it, and he's got it set so it shows up first every time you open it for the first time. Just see for yourself, open it in a tab then close it and open it again, you'll have his code.
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>>153363230
I disagree, everything is standardized and setup to be inserted into standard component slots. At least for the Federation where everything is automated and run by AIs, ship modifications should be near instant where a giant robot arm pops out, swaps out the part the moment you select it from a menu.

Imperials on the other hand do everything with slaves, so it should take hours to have them hoist a new gun into place.
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>>153363286
>what's wrong with the gladiator

it doesn't have rocket pod options available.
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>>153363494
No, that's not my code, go to the master list, my code is first
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>>153363586


See >>153363286
>Rocket pods will be added later as an option for any ship that can fit them
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>>153363427
>My only hopes is they fix the cockpit seating position and rethink the shitty chair lift entrance.
I think that was mentioned in the thread by some dev. With the current setup the turret gunner can't exit as long as there's a pilot in the seat, which is something they want to get rid of.
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>>153363230

>lets slowdown an already slow game even more

Combat ships should have built in guns that can be swapped with other guns that do not need to be retracted or deployed. Non-combat ships should have hardpoints as they are now. Engineers should allow modifications to non-combat ships to add things like the alternate variants of Type-7s that people post here, so you can make a Type-7 FUCK YOU gunship that is basically an A-10. Hardpoints as they are right now are fucking dumb.

Let me know your thoughts.
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Brainstorm/creative time:

How would you make pvp/piracy fun and fair within the currently known SC/PU limitations and goals? I.e. minimize griefing, chore, maximise fun, rewards (for any party included in the gameplay mechanic). What would be the incentives, how would you combat either extreme piracy or extreme carebearing within the game concepts?

Optionally post a nice ship because pretty pictures.
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>>153363792
More piracy in a system = more/bigger missions for security forces

I really want an influence system where if a system is heavily infested with pirates, you can set up a 'pirate base' somewhere in the system.
Kinda like how Grimhex is hidden among the asteroid belt at Yela.

When one of those is present you could ramp up the security force payouts and have a 'community goal' type mission where you prepare to assault the base and drive the pirates out of the system.
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In the universe now. First time i've had time to play. Is there a way to travel faster? MY mustang is slow as shit and it's going to take days to reach these mission checkpoints.

Or si that the point
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>>153364003
>Shit like this happening without having to rely on the dev to implement it

Hngg
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>>153364003
How does that address griefing/extreme piracy?
Why a trader would visit this particular system if it's so infested with pvp (let's not assume pirate vs trader is going to be fair, because it isn't.)

What's the function of a pirate base? What's the mechanical purpose behind it?
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>>153363662
This will make me so hard.

It'd be even better if we could carry a size smaller rocket pack that has a shitload more rockets, but are of course weaker. I need this
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>>153363572 #
Unrealistic use of slaves, they could turn more profit in subterranean resorce extraction rather the the overhead from dock fees
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Nth for /sportswear/
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>>153363390
Do M50 swarms ACTUALLY work, is this a successful strategy in game or a theorycraft?
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Time to build a Raptor. I hope A system close to me has the DBS.
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>>153363172
>Best Ship
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And n+1th for good ragdolls
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>>153364226
You're still not even playing sata, scrub. :^)
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>>153364142
You can jump using quantum travel, but I have no idea what key it is on the new controls because I'm still using legacy. You can also go into cruise mode which accelerates your ship to faster speeds. It used to be the V key iirc

>>153364161
>Why a trader would visit this particular system

Not him, but a trader's only reason to visit some place is profits. So unless the profit isn't worth it, they wouldn't visit these systems. Based upon the other anon's idea, maybe stealth/escorts can play a role for traders to get to these systems. But as far as I'm concerned, not every place should be accessible to every role easily.
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>>153364330
Wrong.
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>>153364253
A group of 4 M50 pilots I combatted against in Squadron battles, who were seemingly organized, rekt me in my SH and fucked our team

It's not a fucking joke my dude. They are hard to hit since they're fast and tiny. I couldn't fucking fathom if 12+ of them banded together in the PU.
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>>153364367
Frig off Randy
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>>153364187
You mean rattlers? We already have those.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p99gfHEz3pc
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>>153364494
Not missiles, anon. Rocket pods. Click a button, they fly forward until they hit something. I hate missiles in SC because they rarely ever hit anything, but I wreck shit in my Mustang Delta with the pods it has. I use them as a dogfighting aid.
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>>153363390
>blade
>massive

It's smaller than a Gladius anon, you know it's intended to be the fastest and most manuverable ship right? And with the capacity to mount 3x S2 Vanduul dakka
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>>153364161
The idea is meant to be dynamic, so you have the 'main' pirate systems and from there pirates can grow their 'influence' into lower security systems via pirating and building these outposts.

The base is there as a dumping ground for pirates.
Where you sell your cargo/salvage. It''s basically a beating heart of piracy in a system without having to jump through JPs.

if there is a proper security response like in EVE in high security systems, there is no 'griefing'.
Going into low security systems IS consent to PvP and there will be mechanics to make being a 'pirate' more punishing.

In E:D it's just griefing because there are basically zero risks involved and 'security' is a joke.

as for traders, do they need to visit the area? I mean you could make profits substantially more if a station is in dire need of supplies due to piracy or perhaps the system is in a key spot that acts as a shortcut between high security systems.
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>>153364353
damn I never noticed, that is some pretty tasty ragdolling

I just hope they take out the pigeon head bobbing soon
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>>153364479
Neat.
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Did 2.5 break the lighting?

The Aeroview hangar is a fucking industrial tanning bed now and a tried to do a race track and was blinded by bloom
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Pirates fucked me up hard

Are there pacifist missions I can do first to upgrade my ship or is this an instance of git gud
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>>153364658
>S2 Vanduul

If S5 Vanduul is worse than S1 I wonder what S2 Vanduul does
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Anyone know what CIG intends to do with missiles eventually?
Right now they're useless because if you don't have any flare you're just fucked but that never happens anyway because you star with about ten gorillion of them so you basically never ever get hit.
I feel like if you fire your flare too soon it shouldn't do anything and if you do it too late the missile explosion will hit you anyway.
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Neutron Cannons a cute
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>>153364871
The tempest II's aren't too bad right now, but yes the marksman I IR missiles are shit
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>>153364378
>Based upon the other anon's idea, maybe stealth/escorts can play a role for traders to get to these systems.
That's a good idea, but on the other hand the profits would have to be even better to justify buying the escort.
Balancing around profit/risk/reward is actually quite difficult and easy to exploit though.
In the above scenario (very profitable route with piracy) most of the time either group (Pirates vs Escort) would bring overwhelming forces that would steamroll the opposition (i.e. try hard pvp group only for the kills; carebear org that escorts players for free because sunshine and magic) making the encounter pretty onesided (not every time, but I think you can see how quickly it would devolve, given how it usually plays out in mmo's). At least that what I think.

>>153364702
>if there is a proper security response like in EVE in high security systems, there is no 'griefing'.

Explain how it would work. AI?

>Going into low security systems IS consent to PvP and there will be mechanics to make being a 'pirate' more punishing.
Agree, that's a given. But what are the mechanics and how both parties can enjoy them, without feeling cheated most of the time?
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>>153365081
>not 2.5
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>>153364658
M50 and 350R are faster
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>>153365189
>Hard to balance

It woulds like it would get quickly balanced by bringing in large amounts of resources into the system, bringing in actual security and pushing out the pirates, which would then lower the profits back to a reasonable amount.

But then again, this is all speculation based on nothing.
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Anyone want a friend who has no idea what he's doing?
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>>153365081
Problem with 2.5 is now enemy debris instantly loses all velocity, and since neutron cannons only have 700m range, you end up killing yourself by crashing into your target
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>>153365430
Friend in what?
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>>153365332
So basically, a very fluid and responsive system that would change the profit ratio based on the current security/piracy of the system/route?
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>>153365472
star citizen
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>>153365430
You got me at "anyone want a friend".
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>>153365560
I do need a gunner for my freelancer, but I'm hoping for an NPC to do that job.
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Anyone knows a good system for smuggling?
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>>153365435
Circle straif at least. The only time I rub wreckage all over my face is when I get lazy and for get I am a space ship not a air plane.
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>>153365559
Yeah, pretty much how ED should have done it.

>Pirates take over and drive traders away
>System gets desperate and starts requesting smugglers to bring in supplies
>Eventually x threshold is met, either by independent traders or by corporations attempting to abuse the game mechanics
>system transitions back to what it was, prices drop, system cannot be exploited any longer

I should be a creative designer
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>>153365668
>>153365697

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/citizens/Samdusky

I assume you add me through here. I pledged back in 2012 and finally built a rig to run it last year, figured I'd get some hours in to check progress before I get busy again
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>>153365698
I used to do Robigo for long distance smuggling missions but it's long since been nerfed.
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>>153365967
I heard about that.
Empire took over or some shit.

Bit weird how every they get the change to create an interesting narrative, like increasing the size and power of the Robigo Cartel, they just nerf shit.
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>>153365323
Q&As say otherwise. Does your uncle work for CIG by any chance?
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>>153365867

They really need to introduce something like "Minor CGs" or just a way for certain systems to broadcast that they need player assistance. I know that they have a thing that say "these are some systems that are in war/famine/etc." but it's useless because finding which are near you or whatever is hopeless.
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>>153366130
>Empire

The empire took over and gave smuggling missions which also gave empire faction rank. I don't know how robigo is nerfed now though. people mentioned it's fine.
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>>153364483
Not until you actually learn how to play sata, you /sportswear/ poseur. And I'm not talking about those shitty hangar games but the big arena.
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>>153365189
Militia or the merchant guild basically need to partially subsidize and inflate ship escort pay in order to make both accepting escort jobs appealing to player pilots AND hiring escorts appealing to merchant players.

In a realism-focused system with pure player-to-player transactions to arrange for safety, an escort's job would have to be very unrewarding for the economy of it to work, which is stupid from a fun, balance and incentive perspective.
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>>153365698
Nul, Nyx, Cathcart, and maybe Stanton.
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>>153366182
It would be great if they introduced that, but then they would have to let players actually affect the game world first. And I'm certain that that is too much of an undertaking for FTroop. It's a shame we don't have a dynamic galaxy that reacts to changes in itself.
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>>153366356
Will check them out.
Thanks dude.
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>>153366356
I prefer to pick up some artifacts at hades, then blockade run straight to Banu Space to offload them. Between the collectors and Banu themselves, there's a good market to sell them there without leaving a trail.

MAXIMUM PROFIT
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>>153366367

One thing I thought about is adding a thing where the game would generate "CGs" of a sort where systems would generate missions that are higher paying or whatever. Kinda like it would generate a CG, but not on the scale of a CG, like kill ships or bring this certain product back, and scatter it around the bubble. I think it'd be nice just to add some flavor to the galaxy and so we'd have some better paying missions like the recent Empire CG one since missions are so worthless right now unless they're smuggling missions.
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>>153365867
One of the problems I find with ED is I don't really see the difference between an anarchy system and a high security core system. When carrying cargo I'm just as likely to be interdicted by a pirate in either. If being "Wanted" was a death warrant bringing in an endless stream of navy ships in high sec system it'd have some kind of meaning. I shouldn't be seeing "Wanted" ships trying to dock at high sec stations in the first place, let alone every 2 minutes. Smugglers yes.
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>>153365081
Best ship.
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Post shit to listen to while space trucking

http://youtu.be/rjqjSP7kOO4
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Can someone introduce me to factions and engineers in E:D? Should I join one?
What's the faction you fags are in?
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>>153366956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX5iyPJwRJE

If anyone knows more music like this I'd love recommendations
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>>153366956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WDRxtd-2dQ
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>>153366956
Generic stoner rock/metal, hard rock, heavy metal, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLMPA4xPFpg
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>>153366956
https://youtu.be/OAs6Y5jjXrA
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>>153367198
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuqZTQ_5gsppBogTG8qm5YNbDQyCJSw5s
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>>153366956
Tangentially related: Does anyone have that E:D followup review video that's just a trip to one destination, with some song playing throughout?
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>>153366297
>Militia or the merchant guild basically need to partially subsidize and inflate ship escort pay in order to make both accepting escort jobs appealing to player pilots AND hiring escorts appealing to merchant players.
That's sounds good. If we assume that the most desired concept and ultimate goal in SC is money (to buy ships, to upgrade ships, to fuel "power"/personal goals, to play the org game etc.) then subsidizing player-to-player contracts is a good idea. As you mentioned, it incentives player transactions and provides an established framework in-game (subsidies from guilds that the player character can join (not necessarily a merc group, but for example a bus driver group too for space truckers), bulletin/ad system etc.). It would be good to see something along these lines.
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>>153366356
Oh, I was talking about E:D.
my bad
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>>153367595
I know

I was just being ebin!
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Anyone have the version of this with the SC ships named also?
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Why devs didn't do anything for stopping the Seos/Robigo/Sothis exploit?

I started to play again during these days, and I wonder why Devs didn't do nothing to stop this ludicrous exploit, that allow ppl to amass rich missions and gain 10 times more than every other activities in the game.
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>>153367680
There's also a version out there with the ships correctly adjusted for size (idris, big SC ship, is like twice the length now) but I didn't save either
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>>153367680
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>>153367680
Are you sure these are correctly sized? Some of them look off.
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Guessing the AMD Omega Codes have expired so i missed out on a cheap upgrade to a great ship?
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>>153367721
I know you're being facetious but it's not that they should be nerfed, rather, other activities should be "buffed" and made more profitable.
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>>153367721
>gain 10 times more than every other activities in the game.
PAINITE DUPE EXPLOIT
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>>153367907
>>153367792

Correct, they're not. Someone needs to fix then. We need a hero.
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>>153367847
Do those big ships FEEL like you're flying big ships? Lookin at the Asp which I'm flying now versus the Corvette which is my dream ship
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>>153363792

>minimize griefing

Attacking other players should increase some sort of bounty to make your life in the verse harder, but if you manage to disable and enter someone elses ship and steal things it should be reward > risk if you can pull it off.

Hoarding up on guns and gooning down innocent players shouldn't be viable, leaving players alive instead of killing them should always be the objectively better option, unless you are RP'ing.

Think FTL where you get more by killing the enemy crew and dismantling the ship than just blowing it up. A pirate who goes for the minimum risk/lowest reward should be finacially unviable to discurage mindless CoD in space /dayZ-immakillthemall gameplay.

>combat either extreme piracy or extreme carebearing

pvp per area. if a carebear wants to get to the juicy trade routes, he has to go into more dangerous areas where outlaws are encouraged due to the opportunities for lawless playstyles. People who are anxious of pvp can stay in the easymode galaxies. Freelancer did a fairly good job in that regard.
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>>153367847
Thanks

>>153367792
>>153367907
Whoops, didn't know.
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>>153367721
>Seos/Robigo/Sothis exploit
I'm new, can someone explain?
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>>153368238
>Attacking other players should increase some sort of bounty to make your life in the verse harder, but if you manage to disable and enter someone elses ship and steal things it should be reward > risk if you can pull it off.

Great idea but that would be easily exploited by groups wanting to boost
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>>153368182
No. Not at all. The only time a ship feels big is when you'e docking at a starport and you scrape against the entrance because you don't know the ship's physical size thanks to the awkward placement of the cockpit.

>>153368294
He's ebin dadposting. These systems offer smuggling for 400+ LYs that give you good money. It takes a fucking hour just to make the trip with your cargo
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>>153368307
If the perma death is a thing.....maybe.

If you just endlessly respawn then yeah its no bueno. Also a rank of sorts could go a long way. People freshly spawned pulling nefarious schemes then getting ganked for bounty probly wont be worth much as someone that built an empire then went rogue.
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>>153368443
>thanks to the awkward placement of the cockpit.
I imagine that becomes a problem. I wonder how it'd feel with a rear cockpit.

>These systems offer smuggling for 400+ LYs
You misunderstood. I wanna know how to make lodsa mone. What do I bring to these places for the dosh?
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>>153368307

boost what, public enemy rate? Like you could farm your serial-killer perk?
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tfw melted the Blade
I'm really not sure what to think about it. I like the design and general idea behind it, but it was horribly overpriced and will most likely end up underperforming like the Scythe/Glaive.
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>>153368182
Freelancer feels a lot bigger than the Asp, simply because you can walk around in it and get the feel of the size. Yeah asp could fit a Freelancer in it's cargo bay, heck the Adder's hull is 4x as wide as a Freelancer, but you never feel like it's that big of a ship because all you see is the cockpit. I only noticed that the Hauler has windows on the sides implying the thing has room enough for crew cabins.
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>>153368659
>What do I bring

Asp E for Robigo. Apparently an Anaconda will work for Sothis/Ceos.

>Fucking captcha failed again

Goddammit Hiromoot
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>>153368887
Wait you can walk around in some ships?
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>>153368964
In Star Citizen
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>>153367398
Very nice, thanks

>>153368671
I mean, say you have a group of 20 people

If player #1 kills #2-#20 he accumulates a bounty. The bounty would have to be one that stacks as the streak rises, otherwise there really isn't an incentive for others to kill this "griefer."

Now, player #2 kills player #1 to reap bounty of a 19 kill streak. He then kills #3-#20 to build his own kill streak.

#3 then kills #2, then #1 and #4-20

etc
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Alright, I want to get into SC and i'm thinking of using joysticks but i'm woefully ignorant to the whole thing. The concept I had in my head was a setup that incorporates joysticks, m+k and maybe an Xbox control for good measure. I figure i'll have something for every situation ya know?

So should I go single joystick, double, joystick and throttle? Are there any DIY guides on an easy way to make a little setup for them or should I just plop them onto a desk?

I'm not rich by any means so keep that in mind but i'm willing to save cash from now until next year to get some decent stuff. It doesn't have to be luxury.
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>>153368987
fugg

>>153368938
>Asp E
Filled with what?
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Everything supposed to be in 3.0 seems too good to be true right now.

>Netcode full refactor implementation
>Planetary landings
>Microtech, Hurston + niggrigged Levski landing zones
>the full star system of Stanton

If they pull this off...
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>>153368803
Actually the Scythe and DoubleScythe are getting buffed eventually, with the Glaive meant to be better than the Super Hornet.

Blade will basically end up as better and rarer M50.
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>>153366956

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpmAD4gcLMo

Black Star boiii
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>>153368964
Star Citizen yes, Elite, no. They've actually modelled the buttons to lower ladders, open hatches. But you can't actually walk around ships.
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>>153369076
>Filled

Nothing. You just need to run some missions to get friendly with them because that's FTroop's new retarded system.
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>>153369076
Mission cargo from Robigo/Sothis.

You need cargo space and a fuel scoop, beyond that you'll need good engines and a cool running ships for smuggling for Robigo. You'll need larger cargo space for Sothis since it's not smuggling but takes up more space.
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Currently own the Mustang Alpha. Is it worth upgrading to an Aurora LN for ~$5 or are there periodic events/sales that I would be better off waiting for?
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>>153369165
Oh fuck, I just understood what you're talking about, they're just missions that pay a shitton, then?
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>>153369294
yeah
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>>153368887
The game does a fairly poor job of converying size to the pilot.
The anaconda, clipper and corvette are all about as big as an aircraft carrier for fuck sake but they feel small since you can't wander around the thing
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>>153369294
Yeah, smuggling missions to get slaves from Robigo to XYZ locations in the bubble. But again, you need to be friendly with them now.
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>>153369053
Buy two TM T.16000s


>>153369086
>3.0 comes around
>netcode implementation works perfectly
>better
>only limit now is hardware, but the servers support 175 players with more expected
>groups of 30 players banding together to hold onto processing stations
>buying unprocessed ore from random miners
>processing ore and producing basic components to sell
>all the while an idris is being sexually assaulted by four Polaris corvettes elsewhere
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>>153369053
Wait for that new Thrustmaster hotas to come out. Should be alright and affordable.
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>>153369443
I think they mentioned the servers might handle up to 1000 players with the new net codes.
A man can hope.
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>>153369018

That is true. A mechanic against that would be permadeath and inconvenience like reset-timer. Bascially, a group could spend their time more effective doing other stuff than that mindless grinding.

hard to pull of crimes should be more valuable in the long run than outright killing other players. Maybe a lower tier of outlaws where certain smuggling/piracy outpost might even refuse to serve killers. Kill-streaks should not be valuable at all.
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>>153369379
It's not even that you can't wander around them, they just seem tiny in general. I met up with a friend in his vulture, I was in my Cutter. He was recording and I checked out his video. I should have looked significantly bigger than him, since I got close enough to see cockpit to cockpit. My Cutter didn't look that much bigger. The sense of scale is way off in ED and I don't know why.
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>>153369379
Yeah, and the Eagle is bigger than many Star Citizen ships and feels tiny.
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>>153364330
>look, I posted my poverty space whip again!
We get it, you are proud of your crippling poverty.
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>>153369551
Did Dr Evil mention that?
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>>153369443
>>153369545

Are the throttles even worth it? I kinda like the look of them. Gives me a scifi vibe.
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>>153369706
netcode*
Fukken Swiftkey
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>>153369589
>>153369604
It's because there are very little small things to compare the ships to.
The best way to get a sense of the size is to either fly up to the cockpit and see the tinny tiny pilot inside or get in the SRV since it's comparable to modern vehicles in size.
For the most part everything in ED is huge, and when everything is huge nothing will be
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>>153363286
>retarded lift
>manned turret
>FUCKING SLOW?!
>165 fucking dollars

I love its design (beside that big tumor) but right now this ship is fucking sheeit
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>>153369581
Definitely
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>>153369108
Huh, I thought the Blade was just an overpriced Gladius. Sounds like a cool ship to capture/buy after launch, I'm always in the market for more speed.
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I wish different classes of ships got slightly different warp-in effects in ED.
Like as the mass increase the warp-in gets more and more aggressive, maybe even have a little bit of that storm stuff that capital class ships have show up for the biggest stuff.
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>>153369721
They're as good as Warthogs aslong as you don't care that they aren't metal, good quality plastic. Plus have twist function. Best joystick
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>>153369443
>all the while an idris is being sexually assaulted by four Polaris corvettes elsewhere
A man can dream though, a man can dream.
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>>153369721
Having a throttle is nice. But the key feature is having a boatload of d-pads on it for that new TM hotas.

That said does anyone know if the T.16000 or whatever the base for the hotas is has a dual stage trigger?
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>>153369981

>bigger ships being different than smaller ships

Go grief in another game.
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>>153369795
So what's the solution? More small ships?
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>>153370058
What was the old prediction from CR about number of Connies needed to take out an Idris?
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>>153370285
I know you're dadposting, but part of me knows that the dads would get pissy over a cosmetic difference.
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>>153370295
Doesn't, have to be ships, the station overhaul that adds parks and stuff should be helping in showing the scale, everyone knows how big a park is from a glace.
But having some station crew going about their business in the hangers would help
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>>153370348
>What was the old prediction from CR about number of Connies needed to take out an Idris?
Who cares? Connies suck, jack of all trades master of none.
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>>153370704
Because it allows a rough prediction of how many Corvettes it'll take to sexually touch a Idris, Faggot?
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>>153369053
Chris said we can open cargo crates and see the cargo in them...

So will sexbots be a thing or what?
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>>153369760
I was referring to the 1000 players in a cryengine game to be honest
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>>153371034
>Because it allows a rough prediction of how many Corvettes it'll take to sexually touch a Idris, Faggot?
>a civilian ship that is made to do everything but nothing well is a good measurement metric to use for a warship
And you are calling me a faggot?
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>>153369795
But what about that Vulture example I gave? When I checked out his perspective, my ship didn't seem that big.
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https://www.voiceattack.com/

Does anyone use this in SC? How good is it for controlling ships functions?

I watched a guys video a while ago and he had a qt computer girl voice taking care of ship functions with voice commands like it wasn't even a thing.
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>>153370696
So landing at a station and station crew start unloading/loading the ship with space forklifts or hooking up the ship to hoses? Maybe a 3rd person camera with "Docking Camera View" in the corner option when landed. No change to ship landing/takeoff speeds, just a cosmetic thing.
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>>153371036
hoogerbahts?
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>>153371184
That seems to be a issue with how close you can get to the other ship.
You tend to bounce of of a ships shields at a set distance relative to the ship size.
So the bigger the ship the further away you have to stay.
I think on my corvette the shield gap is like 100m, combined with the cockpit of whatever ship you're in becoming your 'head' it makes things look smaller than it really is.
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>>153371063
That's exactly what the netcode refactor is for, senpai.
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>>153371259

This, this is what I want from the game. I like the game as a trading/exploration game but the world feels so god damn sterile and empty that I can't bear to do it for more than an hour or two at a time. I just want more life added to the world instead of worthless, broken garbage like Engineers.
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Fastest way to earn a Corvette
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>>153371692
Go back in time to 2 days ago and do the narcotics CG where you could earn hundreds of millions of credits for a couple hours work.
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>>153371794
fuggggggg
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>>153371692
Grind sothis for cash until you have like 600 mil.
Donate like a mad cunt at 17 drac
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I wish SC will have mandatory first person perspective somewhere down the line.
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>>153371154
>CR stated the number of Constellations needed to take on an idris previously
>Constellation is clearly worse at combat than the Polaris
>Number of Polaris Corvettes needed to take on idris would be lower than Connie number
>what is reading comprehension

I reiterate; Are you a faggot?
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>>153371857
Not even kidding, it was pretty much a once in a lifetime opportunity in Elite.
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>>153372154
>still confused about why it isnt a good measurement metric
I understand that most of the game is theory crafting but this is just nonsensical as nothing about the polaris aside from its name and its intended size estimate have been released.

Also that is not how you use a semicolon you cretin.
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>>153369443
stop daydreaming

game will run still shitty
half of the stuff will be in but bugged and unfinished and that just mid 2017
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>>153372972
t. D. Smart
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>>153363172
That thing is effectively a vanduul starter ship that CIG had the balls to sell for 250 dollars. It will suffer from the same issues the gladius does where its speed and agility just isnt enough to justify its weak firepower and it will get obliterated by super hornets and sabres
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>>153372972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIn1_9YvGds
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>>153373074
>>153373176
>Hurr durr Derek Shart in Mart

3.0 sounds in theory like a breakthrough and wet fantasy (yes for me aswell) but come on guys. You cant believe this shit? It is just unbelieveable
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>>153373541
Roberts delivered what was promised for 2.0 and people said the exact same shit you're saying now. Fuck off.
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>>153373135
If you're getting "oblitereated" by SHs and Sabres in a Gladius then you need to GIT GUD.

You've got to boom and zoom, drop the shields and damage it then zoom off. You don't get hit if you're a good Gladius pilot.


tl;dr git gud
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>>153373541
>the game will never be anything more than a hangar and some ships you can walk around inside of
Dont you get tired of being so wrong?
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>>153373541
>>153372972

90 days until Derek Smart is taken to court by the police and can't gain any access to CIG's financial information.
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>>153366193
Robigo is completely empty. No missions at all.
Was it UA bombed?
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>>153373927
Ah, never mind. I switched to solo mode and there they are.

How do I get to cordial?
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So did the gamescom demo use the new netcode? Because if the framerate was like that even with new netcode it would be pretty disappoining.
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>>153373893

elaborate?
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>mfw this general is back
yes
who best ship here
I heard Elite is having an ARG right now or something? What's up with that?
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>>153370108
No, unfortunately, it doesn't have a dual stage trigger. In fact Id say the major weakness of the stick is that it lacks a well placed button for secondary fire.
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>>153374213

Bought instantly on reveal.

Comfy trader life, might even start RPing
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>>153362684
>dat cross section
the M50 will always be the hardest ship to hit in the game.
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>>153372123
It basically has that already since there's no ui elements in 3rd person. At most 3rd person is just for vanity cam and maybe something you quickly switch in and out to see around corners.
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>>153374213
its barely an ARG, just some morse code at its current worst. Just an ingame trail of breadcrumbs
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>>153374213
Perfect, was just about to post about the Merchantman.

Starfarer increased by about 53.8462% when it was finished, from $195 to $300 so we should increase a similar 50% price increase on the Merchantman from $250 to $375 when it's flight ready.

It's also the best ship.
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http://raylehnhoff.github.io/SCFSD/
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>>153373541
>Heh, it'll just be some shitty hangar where they sell ships and run!
>lmao, it'll stay as a dogfighting arena where they make money! It's dead!
>It's just a fake preview of a planet they bullshitted
>It's just a gas giant with some moons and stations!
>It's just a star system with a few places to walk around
>it's just another star system
>It's just a universe!

Every time.
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>>153364316
DBS is my favorite ship and the only one I've flown for the past few hundred hours. Go to LHS 20 if you want a discount.
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>>153363792
I hate some of CIG's shitty fucking design practices but this is one area where we really won't know how it will work until it's been playtested thoroughly. We are going to have to test the fuck out of this. can't wait
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>>153374665
Starfarer also used to be a mobile refueling base, it's now just a ship that has fuel scoops and can refuel itself. Also it's crews don't wear spacesuits because fuck surviving and shit.
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>>153374213
Looks like shit.
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>>153375229
>it's now just a ship that has fuel scoops and can refuel itself
The capability to refuel is still planned, they just didn't model and attach the refueling boom yet. I'm quite certain that was stated multiple times when the ship became hangar ready.
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I think Evocati and PTU is the best thing to happen to SC.

Thousands of dedicated backers get to help find and replicate bugs in the game they're funding to ensure the devs have the best time fixing them. We're essentially a tremendous, free QA team. It truly is wonderful. Main issue is the patcher, but even still I think It's all amazing for the development of SC.
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>>153375451
>dedicated backers get to help find and replicate bugs in the game they're funding
It's an Alpha, we're literally already doing that.
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>>153375229
The Starfarer refueling mechanics aren't in the game yet. It will be able to do that, eventually.
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>>153374665
>>153374392
>>153374213
>Max Crew:
>8 persons

what the actual fuck?
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>>153374665
The starfarer price increase was because of the huge fps stage sized interior they added. They won't maje an interior that complicated again, besides the idris. Also people weren't sitting on tons of starfarer upgrade tokens due to the original pricing. While the BMM had several 0 cost CCU options available. I don't expect the merchantman to go up more that 20 at the most. And more than likely most of the original feature scaled down like what happen to the vanguard and khartu-al.
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>>153374392
I remember melting everything I had back then and then missing the sale somehow maybe because one of the ships I had was too recent or something and then asking support to let me buy it because I liked it that much and realized I don't need like 3 ships
>>153374645
that sounds like what counts as an ARG these days, like what Blizzard is doing
>>153375229
and other old concept art for the MM has big guns on the front, would be nice if they hadn't scrapped that, though I doubt it, I wish the MM had something to differentiate itself from a Hull C
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>>153375707

More like max. 8 stations to man?
People can stand where they want as long as there's room. And it's not like the merchantman has a fucking military tactics installation.
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>>153375707
Never trust the stats page. Also, I think it will have some shitty NPC crew stations. tee bee ayche, if I was going to fly around and sell shit planetside, I'd hire a few armed guards and engineers.

>>153375742
>They won't maje an interior that complicated again, besides the idris.

>I'm just going to talk nonsense out of my ass about things I know absolutely nothing about
Please kill yourself.
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>>153374112
You need to do missions that are available to you. Only way. I really don't like their new system. Even worse than the last one.
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>>153375707
>>153375909
>>153374213


The reason the Merchantman has a 8 person crew is simply because Banu are twelve feet tall, so you need 4 people to hold the others up high enough to reach the interface and controls.

If you invest your money in some tall cargo crates, you can cut that crew requirement down by half.
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>>153374925
there's something about the DBS/E engines and overall shape that is extremley lewd
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>>153375952
The starfarer and the idris get big fancy interiors because they'll have SQ42 missions that use them. The BMM and simular ships won't get even a fraction of that time and effort spent on making their interiors.
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>>153374150
no
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>>153374698
really makes you ayylmaoo
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>>153375451
Will we ever get a secret evocati thread senpai
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>>153375970
Oh.
I actually sold all the discovery data I obtained during my journey. that got me to cordial with them
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>>153372123
I wish 3rd person was just limited to the copilot as part of their managing the ship.
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>>153376282
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>>153376501
>>153374579

I just don't want the peek-around-the-edges faggotry to be possible. At minimum: weapon drawn == 1st person locked.
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>>153376282
k
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>>153376282
>>
>have a nice, civil discussion with someone who's critical of SC but also seems reasonable
>look at their other posts
>HAHA ENJOYING UR $1000 JPGS SHITIZENS? LMAO 6 YEARS LATER AND ALL U HAVE IS A TECH DEMO LOL AT LEAST ROBERTS CAN AFFORD A YACHT NOW U SUCKERS GOT RIPPED OFF
why go full retard
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>>153363629
well he's right it is doing that, so you need to fix something
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>>153375886
Here's the photo you're talking about.
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>>153369281
Seconded.
Free fly player here.

Eyeing the lancer DUR, but it's a bit expensive. However, it's being redesigned currently. Can I expect a sale once the Freelancers are finished?
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>>153377165
eh, I was thinking of the 3d one where they are also shown to be concealed in the front

>mfw flying a Reliant for the first time and forgetting to retract the landing gear
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>>153377165
>guns the size of an aurora
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>>153377278

I would say that is 75% likely to happen.
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>>153364353
they have a neat approach here; when you die to getting shot specifically, there is a number of danned death animations that happen at random, but they don't make it to the floor. that spin and arm swing for example was premade, but once he gets that far the ragdoll takes over, so it's still unique.

I recall there were none in the 3.0 show though, maybe they just don't have any for space?
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>>153377278
>>153377481
There won't be a sale, Dur and Max are always available.
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>>153377278
Nothing in SC is ever 'on sale' if your definition of 'sale' is 'reduced cost'. Apart from some $20 Aurora packages at the last 2 Citizencons.
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>>153369281
>>153377278
Wait for citizencon. There is always a sale then.
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>>153377509

looks like the ragdoll froze in place after the animation.
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Wait what? one of these "incoming mission critical message" with a sane mission change? I'm so used to 0m0s.
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hail the emperor

bask in her glory
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>>153378497
I'm getting some imperial shielding to ship slaves from ceos. Apparently the UA bombing ended.
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>>153377853
You dont believe you can dock and click on the mission board (thats 10 to 15 seconds of load time) in under a minute?

You lack vision
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>>153377587
>>153377583
Yeah, I meant reduced cost.
There are "concept sales" in SC tho, so it's not like they never use the word.

But thanks for the info, I shall sit out till Oct 9! Hoping the actual Freelancer package won't get pricier in turn till then~
>>
lol these identical cargo boxes

https://youtu.be/9BTvqo3jzoc?t=417
>>
Why is Fdev so bad at actually adding versatile features that can be used in more than one way?
Why can I not deploy my SRV mid air for paratrooper style raids, or deploy it in an asteroid field and jump from rock to rock.
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>>153378497
Do all ships in that game have orange UI? It seems strange to me.
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>>153378981
You do know you can change your HUD colors right?
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Is that size 3 plasma shotgun thing any good?
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>>153378981
Yes, unless you adjust the colours manually in the config. Different UI's were a planned feature but like most of the things promised for launch we're still waiting.
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>>153378981
Yes. Worse still, they all have exact identical UI. You can technically change the colors by editing ini files, but it fucks up mission giver portraits and shit. Really sucks.
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>>153379154
Why did you pose your information as a question? One you already know the answer to because the post you're replying to clearly has not played the game?
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>>153374645
the most ARGy part so far was the diagram encoded in the audio file

and I guess the binary ascii in the gamescom videos
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>>153379216
What do you mean?

Aren't you enjoying your clouds?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=4m49s&v=iTBvpd3_Vqk
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>>153374213
crashed ayy ship

Also it seems to have ended. So i guess we're just waiting for the troop to patch the rest of the ayys in
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What should I start with upgrading on my new DBS?

Put two small beams and medium multis. Toying with the idea of just putting dumbfires in place of the beams though just to make it closer to the Raptor.

>>153379316
I assume they just took the lazy way out and went for some "universal system" explanation, but it's a shame it's just lazy and make most ships look the same.

Then again this happens with most games. Might just be my preference for clock factory cockpits too.
>>
Guys

I really want Spacelegs now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_kLXgo4FC8
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>>153379316

Could this be a reason that all ships feel the same size?
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o bby

>when your corvette is coated in federal composites, imperial navy shielding, incendiary guns, and you take it for a day trip into the thargoid home worlds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNkQMtZAMAw
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>>153380179

Why doesn't he walk into the ships interior?
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>>153380246
It doesn't help, same for the fact that the visible windscreen and dashboard is about the same size on most of them. At least some of the seats are offset on larger ships with dual controls.
>>
>>153380258
I actually didnt mind the soundtrack for the new Doom game.
>>
Landing on landing pads and getting out in a vacuum to go indoors in SC is stupid.

When are we getting docking collars and hangar bays?
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>>153380698
Isn't grimhex supposed to have a hanger bay thingy for when the pads are full?
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>>153380396
What ship interiors.
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>>153380698
Grimhex has non-functional hangar bays

They'll probably get to docking collars by 2018
>>
is SC still vaporware or did they actually make some amount of progress in the last two years?

I can't play it without signing the new shitty ToS, so i'm asking /SCG/
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>>153380179
Next season really needs to be spess legs. It would add so much to the sense of scale and immersion to be able to walk around stations and the inside of ships. Also I'd prefer the ability to walk around first so whenever the other seasons come out with more content I can explore that on foot.
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>>153381292
Wait for 3.0.
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>>153381292
>new shitty ToS
What is so shitty about it?
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>>153381292
3.0 footage is kind of it for now
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>>153381292
Of course. You can now play in a Universe with other players!

The game crashes a lot though, ships will randomly eject players who are not in seats/beds when traveling, ships will randomly explode when activating Quantum Travel and there are some progress saves don't happen when they should.
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>>153377631
the ragdoll ended when he was spun 180 but still upright. he appeared to freeze because that's just how he happened to land.
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>>153381292
>he thinks ToSs hold up in court ever
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>>153381351
Inability to ask for refunds
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>>153381798
>Inability to ask for refunds
>for donations on something that may or may not work out
Who cares? Who spends money they really need on this anyway, if you are so retarded that you spend your food money on video games then you deserve everything you get.
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>>153381351
I was a day 1 kickstarter backer, and my ToS from KS includes clauses for refunds if CIG missed milestones (2014 lol)

the new (june 2016) ToS does two things:
- removes the clauses for refunds
- removes all obligations / deadlines for a finished product, or milestones

So, i have my Kickstarter package that i can't play without relinquishing my rights to a refund.

I know from experience, that if you try to get a refund through CIG, they will do their absolute best to get you to make the mistake of signing the new Terms of Service.

Freelancer is in my top 10, so i really want to believe in SC, but i'm also a broke college student now and i could buy a textbook with that pledge money. I backed a game with a large but achievable scope asking $2m. The project has ballooned well beyond what i think ANY company could actually deliver.

FYI if you haven't accepted the june 2016 terms of service, you are 100% entitled to a refund. They will bullshit you though.
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>>153375451
>That pic
Who's dick I gotta suck to see that shit in game
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>>153381931
Dunno man, I just told you what that guy is upset about.

I spent only 30 bucks on this.
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>>153382010
>but i'm also a broke college student now and i could buy a textbook with that pledge money
What a poor choice, why even pledge if money is that tight?

>FYI if you haven't accepted the june 2016 terms of service, you are 100% entitled to a refund. They will bullshit you though.
I have more than enough income to waste some on this game, why would I care about a few hundred dollars I can earn back in one days worth of work?
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>>153381931
>Who spends money they really need on this anyway
Stupid people
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>>153382010
>I know from experience, that if you try to get a refund through CIG
so you've tried? yet you still 'want to believe'?

when did you have to agree to a new ToS anyway, I don't recall having to agree to anything new, also being an old 2012 backer
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lad that's bannable
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>>153381310
I agree. I'm not getting my hopes up though since we're almost 3/4 of a year into horizons and still the only thing we can do is land on baron, scaled up asteroids.
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>>153382010
Gosh, it sure is awful suspicious you just had all that text ready to dump, as well as not responding to anyone giving you suggestions. I mean, I'm just saying, you know.
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>>153381310
thought he was relaxing across from an empowered New Briton woman who is free to express herself from the thumbnail
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>>153382212
2012 was 4 years ago dipshit.
I pledged for a different game under a different agreement. CIG did not fulfill their obligations and i am absolutely justified to be angry, so suck my dick.

>>153382285
when you launch the SC client they prompt you with a public test user agreement, then the terms of service. if you just ok'd your way through it you're already fucked.

>>153382445
>shilling this hard
Remember, CIG is selling you a beautiful lie. Don't expect to actually get anything for your money.
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>>153382445
yeah, guy wants to play and is a true believer, for real guys, but he can't play because then he'd lose the ability to get his money back after :((( also did you guys know that you can get your money back as well and here's how? those moneygrubbing kikes at CIG who we all honestly want to succeed will try to jew you but if you really keep the screws to them you can get a full refund like so :^)
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>>153382576
>2012 was 4 years ago dipshit.
>I pledged for a different game under a different agreement. CIG did not fulfill their obligations and i am absolutely justified to be angry, so suck my dick.
>I cant plan well and I make very poor financial choices
>I should be able to do take backs in real life
This isnt a playground, you make choices and you live with them. I am sorry that you make bad choices and regret them but not all of us give a fuck or make choices like you do.
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>>153382576
>you're already fucked
>fucked
>I paid for a game I play a bunch and I have no recourse to take back my money should I get a brain injury and suddenly decide I hate it, I'm fucked!
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I really only wanted an update on the game but since there's so many shills in this thread i'm just gonna link this:

http://www.dereksmart.org/2016/07/star-citizen-the-refund-debacle/

There's a guide to getting your money back from these thieves.

Tl;Dr:
- Contact Andrew Wai from the LA department of consumer affairs. http://dcba.lacounty.gov/wps/portal/dca

LA Consumer affairs has jurisdiction over the CIG offices in the US, so they're the people best equipped for hassling CIG on your behalf

- File a formal complaint with the Federal Trade Commission.

- Initiate a chargeback through your bank or credit card provider. They will have a fuck of a time disputing the charges because they didn't actually deliver a product.

Please, keep shilling and i'll post this every day until you twats have an aneurysm.
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>>153382576
>>shilling this hard
>Remember, CIG is selling you a beautiful lie. Don't expect to actually get anything for your money.

Wow, you sure went from "man, I'm so hopeful about this game coming out, what should I do bros, do you know about refunds and ToS, such a poor broke college student" to "I hate Roberts so much I want to wear his wife's face as a mask" right quick. Thanks for making it obvious at least.
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>>153382968
Is this the birth of an epic new meme?
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Is it normal to have frequent half-second pauses during gameplay of SC 2.5? Or do I need to upgrade to the latest 1000 dollar video card now?
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>>153382713
ok dad
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>>153382576
>Don't expect to actually get anything for your money

I wish stupid millenials like you had to get a license before being allowed to spend food money on kickstarter because that's basically what it is and there are still morons trying to refund a 4 year old pledge.
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>>153382968
>I really only wanted an update on the game but since there's so many shills in this thread i'm just gonna link this:
>What I really came here to do was complain in a public forum about my poor life choices and my inability to do any form of long term planning
>on a side note, I really need this money from the refund to pay my mortgage before I am evicted
t. Derek Smart
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>mfw sc turns out to be fucking amazing and all of the people who jumped off the boat come to regret it and return, tail between their legs
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>>153382968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIn1_9YvGds
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>>153382968
It's probably more wise to outright not spend money on a game until you're content with what it is.

>>153383215
You always needed at least a 4gb GPU, though you can still play with a 2gb card.
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>>153382010
>i really want to believe in SC
>>153382968
>There's a guide to getting your money back from these thieves.
kek. zero to full retard in 11 minutes. I joked about you doing this here >>153382693 but I thought even goons could have more tact than this. I guess I was thinking of the EvE guys, not their poseurs.
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>>153383228
>why wont people agree with me that real life needs take backsies just like on my elementary school playground!
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>>153382147
Aegis ships are the sexiest in SC.
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>>153383432
ok mom
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>>153382968
>just dumps direct links to Derek Smart's bullshit when no one takes the bait

That's so pathetic, man. Thanks for the laugh.
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Who in particular is supposed to NOT shoot at you if you decide to fly around in a knockoff of a Vanduul ship? Even the Vanduul would be enraged to see it.
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>>153383290

It's already happening, google "anyone_know_if_cig_will_reverse_a_refund"
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>>153382968
>refund of $2550
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>>153383535
>how dare someone point out that I have the reasoning ability of a young child, I know what will show them, calling them mom or dad!
This is just sad.
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>>153383389
Oh so it's a VRAM thing? I guess that would make sense to pause then, cycling in assets that should actually be constantly loaded. Maybe I'll look at getting a 4GB card.
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>>153383580
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>Asking for Refunds when you can black market for profit

WEW

W E W
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>>153383702
Could also be general RAM issues.
I have 16gb myself, but I'm being told 32gb is recommended. I've seen the game use almost 8gb of RAM and my 660ti only manages to play well in the hangar, though generally playing is "okay".
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>>153383390
They quit EVE and play ArcheAge exclusively now.
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>>153383671
ok cucknle
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>>153383890
I heard 32 was like minimum

upgraded to 64, works fine
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>>153383890
Oh, well I have 16GB of RAM and a 660Ti with 2GB VRAM. I don't think you can even get a 660Ti with 4GB.
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>>153384008
>being so mad that people make better financial and career choices that you continue posting even though everyone knows that you are a child.
topkek

>>153383890
>I have 16gb myself, but I'm being told 32gb is recommended
Really, when did that happen?
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>>153383215
it's a server side problem they're working on, you'll notice the hangar, arccorp, and AC don't have this issue, nor does Yela asteroid field
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>>153384284
>>153383890

>tfw 8gb vram
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>>153384462
It runs nice on my 1070
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>>153384442
>Really, when did that happen?
Playing yesterday with a random small org, one of the guys said they had 32gb and it was a greater improvement over 16gb, let alone their old 8gb.
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>>153383890
>>153384284
What exactly is the 660Ti's upgrade path? It's in such a weird space. Like what's the card that is directly above it?
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>>153385103
At this point, anything from an 980 to the new 10X0 cards.
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>>153385103
Do they still make 660Ti"s the 1060/1070/1080 is the new thing.
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>>153385435
>>153385284
>>153385103
good that SC will need another few years, when those 10X0 cards will cost (much?) less
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>>153385103
just don't buy anything ending in 50, though if they put out a 1050 it'll probably run SC fine
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>>153385435
>Do they still make 660Ti"s
Doubtful, they likely still have some around though.
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I can't be the only one that hates the word "verse" right? It just seems so cheesy and cringy and it doesn't really shorten the word universe since it's spelled differently.

t. autismo
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>>153385435
You're wasting money getting a 660ti in this day.
They have been good, but you really need to consider a greater card.
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How do I fight in Frontier? Every time I try to travel outside the core systems I get intercepted and 360noscoped before I can even change heading.
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>>153385540
Star Citizen(2018):
Minimum: 1080Ti 16gb vram, Recommended 1280Ti 32GB vram
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>>153385786
I think all the literal dads at old CIG Austin gave it the cringe factor it has, though the forums don't help. gotta call it something though
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>>153385786
Agreed, it's horrible.
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>tfw no space gf

>>153385786
no it winds me up a bit too
i think it's from firefly... everyone likes to circlejerk about firefly
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>>153385540
by the time SC is close to being an actual complete/good/playable game we'll likely have affordable VR headsets
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>>153385965
Dare I ask what that image is from or for a story about it?
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>>153385786
yes it sounds shit

never going to say verse
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>>153386056
>VR isn't affordable now
this game is not for poor people anon
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>>153385786
Thanks for finally mentioning it

>"A lady in the 'verse? 'tis a fine thing to see!"
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Win 7
i7-4771, 3700 MHz
GTX 760
16GB (DDR3-1600)

How am I looking for SC? I can run ED fine. Gonna buy me a 315p tomorrow, please advise on my PC specs.
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>>153386332
That should be fine, you will likely need to set the graphics settings down to medium or low though.
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>>153386332
Youre fine, couldnt hurt to upgrade your card though.
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>>153379985
i like 3 multis and 1 med beam
theres also 4 rails or 2 small beams, 2 plasmas
or just go 4 multis
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>>153386332
You'll be able to play it, better than I can with my 660ti, but expect some performance issues.
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>>153386245
can't buy one when you've spent the money you do have on your PC/ship
VR will probably have better specs by then too
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>>153386425
That is not acceptable for such a beautiful game.

>>153386504
So my card the only issue? What should I buy to run it on max?
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>>153385965
>hambeast
>neckbeard
>that wanted poster

cringe/10
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>>153386578
>What should I buy to run it on max?
>Max
>In this day and age
Buy the newest graphics card, you bleedin' idiot.
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New loremaker's guide is up

Apparently he planet Baker 3 is slowing growing in size and no one is sure why
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>>153386715
>being rude
>2015+1

I want the cheapest card (still would be pretty expensive in comparison I guess) that can run it on max. I am sure someone here knows the answer to that.
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>>153386007
I'm annoyed they added actual flight seats for other crew, but didn't bother chaning where the consoles were for them. There's no way anyone can use that keyboard.
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>>153386876
Watching it as well

this guy is shit at describing. The others are so much better.
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>>153387047
Better than the girl

At least he doesn't fuck up every 5 seconds
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>>153386332
Those specs are fine. Play on Low graphics settings. I wouldn't personally jump in with a ship that costs you extra money - what if the game doesn't work to your satisfaction, or you just don't like it? No matter how low you start on the ship food chain you can just upgrade to a 315p at any later point for the exact difference in price it would have been to start with it.
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>>153387224
I am a sucker for space games, I like them all.

Any idea what's the cheapest of the expensive cards I need to run it on max?
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>Win 7 Pro
>GTX1060 6GB
>16BG of DDR4
>I7-6700
>480GB SSD
How bad am I going to fuck up for SC?
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>>153387402
No idea, but there will still be FPS issues and glitchy geometry no matter how high you go, because the game is not complete. It's better to just wait since you're not going to get optimal FIDELITY yet no matter what.
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>>153386885
>asking a two-faced question
You either want cheap, or you want the best.
You cannot have both.
Right now, the best are the 1000 series GTX cards and whatever the fuck is the new AMD card.
You want cheap, stick with your current 700 series card.
Don't compromise and get "this but cheaper", just get the newest card.
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>>153387610
>pro
>not ultimate

pleb
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>>153387734
That's not a two-faced question, it's a pretty simple request for something that wastes the least excess performance, but we seriously just do not know at this stage.
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>>153387610
>1060
Should have spent the extra on the 1080, you're going to have major issues.
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>>153387610
>not timing your upgrade for release
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>>153387734
How is it two faced?

I didn't say I wanted a cheap yet expensive card.

I said I wanted the cheapest of the expensive cards.

As in the best price for best SC performance. No need to buy a 2000 dollah card if a 800 dollah one can do the job, right?

Don't you get the difference? Don't trigger my autism...
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>>153387734
fucking idiot

>>153387914
>>153388000
he is prolly trolling
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>>153387610
>1060

Isn't that equal to or slightly better than the 970? I can get 60 FPS on low in AC. Haven't tried on any other settings in AC.
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>>153387947
>>153387960
May I explain my case in more details, I'm leaving a five year old laptop behind and getting a desktop. I know the GTX 1060 isn't going to be enough by the time of release but at least 3 gens of graphic cards will have been released by then
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>>153388194
1060 will most likely be enough for the game.
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When will we be able to join VS games with 20 people to fight off small fleets of enemies?
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>>153387734
not for such a minor performance increase you shouldn't
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>>153386578
Get a 1080 and be done with it.
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>>153381798
>Inability to ask for refunds.
>People still get refunds.
It's more like a "We reserve the right to deny refunds." You can still ask, people have been getting them.
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>>153385786
So change it. Use different lingo.

They can't FORCE us to use lore lingo if we don't want to. Chris may be super autismo and controlling about the game but he can't stop us from using our own terminology.

Maybe different parts of space populated by players will form their own different from others.
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>>153388571
>asking for refunds
>not selling for profit on leddit
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>>153388529
>mfw between 700 and 850 euro in my favourite supplier

All right, 1080 it is, gonna get the option for 12 installments, total price 1000 euro for the most expensive one, but I won't even notice 80-ish euro per month.

First time I'll buy a PC component with installments lel.
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>>153388957
You'll be sorry when next year the new gpu's architecture hits the market and SC will THEN be in actually playable (or "gone to hell, abandon ship") stage.
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>>153388957
>1000 euro
>For a 1080

What the fuck are you doing
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>>153388957
what exactly do you need it for?
it better not be for this shitty alpha with how much the price of the 1080 will eventually drop
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>TFW all I want to do is purge pre-spacefaring alien worlds and watch as they're civilizations burn beneath the falling ash.

Alien genocide when?
>>
SPESS PENGUINS
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>>153388957
Fucking madman, don't get the most expensive one.
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>>153389421
I always wondered why some aliens in movies want to destroy the Earth. Now I know. They were just blood thirsty.
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>>153389421
But the fair chance act exists to allow them to develop
So they can put up a fair fight
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>>153389436
>he bought an avenger
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>>153388957
>I'll just throw money on the issue, until it stops being an issue
Anon, what the fuck are you thinking?
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>>153389421
Aliens and everything with fur that can speak (fur fags too)
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>>153389306
There are new cards coming out every year, no point in waiting.

>>153389340
It's 850 + 150 Interest fopr the x12 installments a month

GTX 1080 GAMING X 8G

>>153389401
Just as a general upgrade, it's time I think.

>>153389550
I'm open for advice. I don't know anything about the 108o series.
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>>153389664
that usually works bruv
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>>153389723
>150 eurobucks of interest
>but I don't have 850 on hand or can't save it very quickly
>I'll take a loan from my favorite supplier :^)
AAAAAAA
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>>153389421
Anon, don't, I need those sub-sentients for my illegal fighting rings. Kill as many as you want, but keep a handful for high-price betting matches.
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>>153388957
>gonna get the option for 12 installments
>for a graphics card
goodest of goys
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>>153389723
Just out sheer curiosity, do you even have a good enough PSU for that 1080?
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>>153389723
dont forget to buy the retaliator good guy

>

X
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>>153389723
You could get a 1070 as a waiting card for half the price and slightly lower performances than the 1080 and then go crazy once the game releases with the latest card that'll be out by then.
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>>153389971
>but I don't have 850 on hand or can't save it very quickly

I can, but I don't want to.

>>153390020
oy vey!
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>>153390203
I spend lots of money on my hobbies too, but you know what I dont do, take out loans for them, because that is just retarded.
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>>153389421
You're only making the universe more boring.
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>>153390169
Ok finally advice instead of trolling still love all of you fuckers

>>153390308
it's not a loan mate, you pay an installment each month, dunno how you call that shit in English desu
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>>153389421
humans already did that like 200 years ago in SCverse. now we're in the state endorsed post-colonial guilt phase that comes with the decline of every empire
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>>153390416
>it's not a loan mate, you pay an installment each month
Anon, what the fuck you think a loan is? But yes >>153390169 is absolutely right. 1070 now, upgrade a year later if you're that kind of guy.
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>>153390416
>it isnt a loan
>you just pay monthly installments with interest tacked on
>not a loan
That is a loan.
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>>153390580
So we will watch the west crumble, just in space during the game?

I am honestly not sure if I want to be reminded that the world around me is collapsing when I am trying to play my video games for escapism.
>>
I understand that the Aurora is supposed to be bad, and should be, but is it actually possible to have FUN in one when the only thing to do is dogfight? Not even other players who obviously have good ships, just Vanduul. Feels kind of helpless.
>>
WHO'S READY TO REMOVE AYYLMAO BOYS?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5_oJ50stO4
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>>153390169
>>153390631
Why 1070 and not a 980?

>>153390631
>>153390632
Afaik a loan is when you take money and have to repay that with interest. I am paying with my own money each month for a year.

Surely there's a name for that, there is one in my language lol.
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>>153390416
If the 1070 is a 100 in terms of performances, the 1080 would be a 120 for almost double the price. I'm going for the 1060 because I'm a limp dicked bastard and I can't afford to put money in a GPU now when I need more important components than that for a desktop I'll upgrade in a few years.
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>>153390773
Rent a better dogfighter.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/electronic-access
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>>153390868
>It's 850 + 150 Interest fopr the x12 installments a month
That is a loan, you are getting a loan for a graphics card and trying to deny it like a retard.
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>>153390870
what's the 1060 on that - 80?
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>>153390868
They are almost the same price while the 1070 is slightly better than the 980 (more VRAM better clock speed etc).

>>153391004
I'd say 85 or 90 which is more than enough for most games in 1080p.
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>>153390960
Maybe there's some miscommunication and I can't express what I man properly.
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>>153389421
>>153390580
The founding of the empire in E:D boils down to:
The Federation sucks, let's go someplace else. Like a random direction into empty space.
Oh look, an earthlike planet. Shit, there's intelligent life there. Oh well, no turning back now, just fry them and take it.
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>>153390580
GALACTIC CIVIL WAR WHEN? My five Banu Merchantmen are ready and waiting to be convereted into Corvettes.


What side will you take when the Civil War starts, anons? Will you defend the homeworld for the Earth Empire, or fight for the weasily New Republic of Terra, or attempt to profit as a pirate or one of those swanky Independant Browncoats?
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>>153389602
>he didn't
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>>153391127
>Maybe there's some miscommunication and I can't express what I man properly.
No you expressed it fine, you are paying for the cost of the graphics card coupled with interest over the course of a year, that is the definition of a loan. Now stop trying to deny it.
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>>153390868
Anon PLEASE find someone responsible to spend your money for you, you are not fit for this.
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>spent the morning doing those timed settlement datapoint scan runs for three modified embedded firmware
>spent 2 hours last night getting three zirconium
>Tod "The Bastard" McQuinn gives you only shit rolls three times in a row
Fuck me.
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>>153391184
For Russia or Soviet Reunion
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>>153391184
Fuck empires.
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>>153391117
The price difference is between 10 and 30 USD with a 20% increase is frame rate from the 1070, seems fairly simple to me in regards which should be purchased.
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>>153390868
There are several terms in English for it, but they still refer to a type of loan.
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>>153390747
At least in games we can fight back.
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>>153390868
What do you think you're doing?

>product costs x
>you want product, don't have x
Option A:
>go to the loan shark get x money
>ok, but you have to pay me back x+y in 6 months, y being interest
>acquire product with money, pay off the loan shark
Option B:
>Take "installments" option at retailer
>take out a "loan" of x and immediately and exchange it on the product
>I loaned you x in the form of the product you wanted, but you need to pay me x+y, y being the interest
>You can do it by paying me a small monthly amount so you won't suffer much on a daily basis
I can't say it in more simple terms.
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>>153391268
>>153391592
We have another word for it. Cultural differences senpai.
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>>153390747
On the bright side, there's a notable split between the ambitious people of Terra hoping to form a sort of space hippie commune and the Empire and Earth proper who're just trying to stop fucking up and survive against the growing tide of hostile incursion. So there's an in-built "do you want to keep going down this road to ruin that's been tread before or do the right thing and try to survive as a culture and species" thing going on.

>>153391184
I hope no one here is one of those Terran scumbags, acting all high-and-mighty on their ivory towers pretending everything's all happy and shit while the Vanduul encroach into human systems. They whine and complain about the word "manned" not being inclusive enough when the UEE houses Tevarin but what do they care about the lost colonies and dead soldiers?
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>>153391630
>Cultural differences senpai.
>it isnt a loan because we use a different name for it
>nevermind the fact that I am paying monthly installments with interest
>it isnt a loan, I swear!
You make some really poor financial choices, how old are you, what do you do and what country in Eurabia are you from?
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>>153391630
Anon, I'm from fucking Europe, that's, in an essence, a fucking loan however you want to call it.
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>>153391427
It seems to vary from one benchmark to the other, I saw one saying the 980Ti was superior while the next one said the opposite. It seems to depend from game to game and between the manufacturers.
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>>153391878
>It seems to vary from one benchmark to the other, I saw one saying the 980Ti was superior while the next one said the opposite.
Got a link, I havent seen one that says the 980ti is better than it with any measurement metric.
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>>153391714
>>153391184
>>153391421

I'm going to let you all in on a secret. The Retribution isn't the only super dreadnough, it's just the first sucessfull one. There was another half-produced during the Messer-Era but it was unfinished and abandonded and now makes up the Spine of Spider. Should the Civil war start, then the Spine of Spider will rise for the Independents.
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>>153391735
>how old are you, what do you do and what country in Eurabia are you from?

32, real estate agent, the best one

>>153391775
I can see the logic behind it, but we call it differently.
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>>153391630
I wasn't joking when I said get someone else responsible to help you make financial decisions. Getting help is better than getting swindled.
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>>153392029
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>>153392107
>I can see the logic behind it, but we call it differently.
>the fact that we call it something else means that it is something else
I can put lipstick on a pig but that doesnt make it a beautiful woman. You are saying that not only can you put lipstick on a pig but that does indeed make it a beautiful woman.

You are your own worst enemy.
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>>153392107
But do you understand the fact that calling it differently, even though if it were a synonym (but not quite) doesn't change the fact it's simply a loan?
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>>153392274
Waaay too aggressive my man, you are taking the joy out of posting, stomping it and putting it back in as extreme cynicism.

>>153392304
I get your logic. The card would be the equivalent of taking a money loan since someone else has to give the value right away to the seller.
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>>153392504
>The card would be the equivalent of taking a money loan since someone else has to give the value right away to the seller.
Damn you, you win.
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>>153392274
>>153392304
Why are you bothering to reply to this guy? He is obviously too stupid or stubborn to ever really listen.
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>>153392223
Here you go anon, may I now return it?
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Who is hyped for 3.0 and Microtech?
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>>153392825
oh ya baby
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>>153392825
>Who is hyped for 3.0
At this point, everyone who is actively interested in SC.
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>>153392823
>GOOD TEVARIN IS DEAD TEVARIN
why am I laughing at this


>>153392825
really hope we get abanonded ice bases
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I think I figured out why the crashed Thargoid scout ship is underwhelming to me. One because it's been shown before and Because the planet it was discovered on is a random, irrelevant, barren rock that is accompanied by millions of other random, irrelevant, barren rocks.
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>>153392961
It reminds me of the Sophons in Endless Space, it's Apple the planet and I love it.
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>>153392825
Since Stanton is supposed to be City: The Planet Version and they want to roll it out in 3.0, what are your expectations?

I'm afraid it will be pretty mediocre and by this, it will set the "bar" for developed and undeveloped ports pretty low (i.e. it will only be smaller/simpler from this).
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>>153393124
I guess you just don't understand what an incredible ARG this is. Sorry you can't enjoy it, maybe you should try playing some call of duty instead, CMDR. o7
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>>153392825
yeah 2019 will be great
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>>153392770
Because I know disabled people and it makes me really uncomfortable to see someone's intelligence or inability to do certain types of reasoning get exploited by another person to take their money.
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>>153392825
I'm so excited
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>>153393378
ebin dad posting
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>>153392770
>>153393379
guys...>>153392504
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>>153393285
I just hope we get more well-lit areas. I understand it's a space game but it feels like too many interiors just get left dark for no good reason. People who lived and worked in these spaces wouldn't want that shit, not even in a pirate hole.
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>>153392825
>>153392961
>>153393285
>>153393379
>>153393562
>it's a station/landing zone/city
>just like any other
>same shops and shit, just different textures and lighting

>wow so excited
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>>153393379
Cheeky bastard.
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>>153393750
It's a full sized icey planet with it's own tileset, anon. But try harder when you shitpost next.
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>>153393750
>wow a station in a space game has landing zones
>wow stations in a space game with landing zones all provide similar services to ships and pilots who land there

>wow
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>>153393975
so why are you excited then fucker? it's the same shit
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>>153394048
Maybe because it's an ice planet with ice and snow, and it's on a planet?

When you travel do you complain all the gas stations are similar?
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Can you run a 1060 and a GTX760 in a SLI and would that have any benefits?

>lots of retarded question
>have an anime girl as thanks
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Anyone saved the better Banuposter image from the oldthreads? I only have this.
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>>153394507
>8
>not clover

fuck right off
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>>153394507
god I want to fucker her so bad

don't know shit about sli, sorry senpai
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>>153394507
>Can you run a 1060 and a GTX760 in a SLI and would that have any benefits?
Go back to your shitty jewish chan.
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>>153390868
You mean "financing"? Probably the wrong word in English but in taco language it's called "financiar", which is basically paying something within the span of several months instead of in one go.
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>>153394705
Better?
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>>153394507
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/469402/
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>>153394767
the fuck?
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>>153394842

Financing is the right word. It is the same as a loan, even if there is no interest.
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>>153394842
>Europe
>taco language

I don't even
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>>153394868
who's that nendo supposed to be
is it samus or something
why does vivian have two joysticks, where's the thrust control
why is the tower on the floor
why is there a nogaems on the tower
why is there a docking port for a mobile music player when there's a pc right there
why is there a speaker when she has a headset
why is the keyboard tiny
what happens if one of those clovers gets sucked into the tower
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>>153394892
Thank you based anon
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>>153395221
Here's your >
>>

Dual joysticks are the current meta for people who can actually fly well
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>>153395221
autismus maximums
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>>153395048
>what is spanish
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>>153394892
>spoon feeding the undeserving
why?
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>>153395369
but how do you accelerate or decelerate
I don't understand
>>153395474
me too thanks
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>>153395763
because he wants to help and be a good person actually contributing to the thread unlike you shitposter
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are there some places that always have a certain ship? I'm trying to find a Diamond Back explorer but it seems that such ships are not allowed in the shipyards where I am.
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>>153395904
>because he wants to help
Then direct him to google isntead of spoon feeding his extreme stupidity.
> be a good person actually contributing to the thread unlike you shitposter
>but someone asking a question that the graphics card box answers isnt a shitposter?
Okay fuckwit, whatever you say.
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>>153395951
As far as I'm aware stations seem to have the same ships pretty much forever unless something big happens to disturb the station, or of course new ones are added.

The wiki pages for the ship have a list of where that ship is known to be. It's not exhaustive but there should be something close enough to you.
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>>153395951
System ix has them at a discount
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>>153395951
http://inara.cz/galaxy-shipyard/31
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>>153395896
One joystick takes yaw and pitch, maybe roll, the other takes strafing. You can either accelerate and decelerate with the keyboard or buttons or hats on the joysticks, maybe even pedals if you're feeling sassy. There are a lot of buttons on joysticks, so it's just a matter of getting adjusted to where you set everything for maximum utility.
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>>153396185
>salty af
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>>153391714
but Earth is literally space Ontario now; the seat of government that is just a welfare state only propping itself up on the heavy taxation and exploitation of the rest of the Empire. Can they really be the defenders of Human culture and decency? Remember, Earth is supposed to be Rome while Terra is Constantinople. I don't recall any cuck popes in the HRE ever saying "sure, we'll open the gates! your Gaulic traditions will surely enrich us! :^)"
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>>153396632
>hurr durr at least I don't shitpost
>immediately shitposts

You are every bit as bad as him.
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>>153391392
where did you go to score those modified embedded firmwares famalam?
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>>153395896
you use two sticks so that you have control over six axis of movement. Namely three rotation (pitch, yaw, roll) and translation (forward/back, up/down, left/right)

it's works great when you need to be able to control those six directions at once.

like in space.

Acceleration can be handled either with the forward/back of the stick (and can be further assisted by using additonal programs to make the trottle only happen on the forward motion, making the back motion being strafe back, if you want, along with making some other button be a cruise control)
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>>153396760
I am neither the guy that asked for help nor the one that provided it, altho I agree with the latter

you = shitposter
I = shitposter, but at least I have a good heart

stay salty
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>>153396769
>modified embedded firmware
Surface datapoint or mission rewards.
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>>153397016
I'm the guy that asked for help and even I think you're a numptyfuck
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>>153396380
>>153396372
>>153396208
It seems I have a bit of a trek ahead of me since the closest shipyard seems to be 84 light years away.
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>>153396769
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/272951-Medium-Security-Settlement-List-and-Guide-for-Modified-Embedded-Firmware

Make sure you know the optimal path through the settlement before starting the first scan.

Good luck anon.
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>>153391546
what is this a picture of
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>>153396974
Why not get a stick that has movement in the vertical? Or you could rebind your pedals to be up and down and change the twist of the stick to be your rudder?
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>>153397239
Whatever could it be.
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>>153397103
You are not, because that was me, pic related

Disgusting impostor and shitposter
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>>153396743

>HRE

I think you mean ERE; eastern Roman empire.

Also
>"holy"
>""roman""
>"""empire"""
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>>153397351
>shitposter
>calling others a shitposter when reading your gpu box would have given you your answer
Dont throw rocks when your house is made of glass anon.
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>>153397253
>Why not get a stick that has movement in the vertical? Twist the stick to be your rudder
I'll just assume you didn't notice the "three axis movement" and "yaw"
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>>153397351
Nice photoshop bro, you even proved you did by moving it.
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>>153397467
get TOLD and REKT

>muuh glass house

you are still a bad human bean shitposter, the guy that helped is still awesome, kys
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>>153397351

You're going through such lengths to avoid being called a fuckdoll numpty that it's embarrasing.
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>>153393750
>wow every single planet in this game is exactly the same shape so original
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>>153397629
>I struggle with reading the boxes of things I own or basic google searches, luckily for me others are always around in my life to pick up my slack!
I am glad you are proud of being retarded, I wouldn't be, but then again I am not retarded, so maybe that has something to do with it.
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>>153397915
>I keep the boxes of things I bought years ago around
>they contain information if it would be possible to run them along with other tech that was not introduced at that time, basically time travel into the future stickers on your box

Retard
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>>153393285
terra's actual explorable groundside will probably be bigger than arccorp's. arccorp is supposed to be industrial park: the planet, and 99% of it should be the same boring shit you wouldn't care to see anyway.
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>>153398114
>they contain information if it would be possible to run them along with other tech that was not introduced at that time
>SLI works with different GPU chipsets
Any retard knows this isnt the case.
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>>153398368
My point still stands, 'tard. You are the cancer this general and I despise you irl.
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>>153394615
pretty good, never seen that one
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>>153398521
>My point still stands, 'tard. You are the cancer this general and I despise you irl.
>someone who struggles with reading and basic logic hates someone else
I dont care about you, just like I dont care about the ants I crush while walking on the sidewalk.
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my it's edgy in here
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>>153398665
You sure as hell cared enough so far, autismo.

>I'll crush you like an ant

lel
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>>153398572
Thanks anon, have this one in return.

trading pepes is so 2014
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>>153398665
>>153398787
>>153398368

You guys both realise that the other one isn't the anon asking for help, right? You're both people that jumped on shitting on him and now think you're still shitting on him because one of you thought a reply was aimed at them by the original "Can I crossfire two different GPU chips" anon
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>>153398981
I'm actually defending the anon who asked and the other one who helped, the autismo over there can't contain his faggotry.
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>>153394615
>>153398572
Any more of these?
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>>153399158
Then stop being a faggot shitting up the thread and go fight each other in the dueling ring, we'll place bets.
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>can't swap the front gun of the avenger
>can't put the avenger's gun on ANY other ship

why
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>>153399320
It's a Messer area mount, you can only apply strong earth-made messer weaponry to it


Atleast until Consolidated Outlands makes an unlicenced adapter.
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>>153364226
>am I not penguiny enough for the penguin club *honks*
>>
>Keep switching between this thread and others
>Keep having to scroll up to make sure I'm still in /scedg/ because of the shitposting going on
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Although buggy as fuck, Star Citizen can create some pretty insane moments when it works.
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>>153399158
>I'm just defending m'lady's honor!

Please tip your fedora somewhere else.
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>>153399658
I still have yet to see a starfarer in game, I am fairly sad about that.
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>>153399320

>Messer area mount

Just how complicated are they making fitting guns onto ships in this game? What happened to sizes and size-down adapters?
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>>153399871
It's all fun and games until you buy a 500 year old surplus ship


It's also a joke anon, they've got a plan for the Avenger but it isn't priority
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How much better is a bounty hunting python with engineers vs without?

Fas?
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>>153399658

This is the kind of foolery I want SC.
A large ship getting attacked, something important breaks and someone has to eva out to quickly patch a cable while under fire, suddenly a Merlin gets cheeky with it and tries to ride straight into the open cargo hold like Anakin in Episode one. All in real time.
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>>153400381
Engineers is effectively going from E to A all over again.
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>>153400398
This will happen with Capships, except the little cheeky merlin will be a boarderhopping Terrapin filled with space-Méhicós
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>>153395221
>why is the keyboard tiny
>>>/vg/mkg/
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>>153400557
Do better thrusters make that boat turn any better?
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Where you at, /scg/edg/?
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>>153401287
Better thrusters make everything perform better.
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>>153401343
What is that image of?
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>>153401287
Python turns like a FDL with g5 dirty drives.
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>>153401287
That's what thrusters are for, yes. If that's the upgrade you pick, that is.
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>>153401436
Star Citizen universe organised like a tube map
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>>153401343

Do we start in Sol? I want to hang in Nul, just a jump away from Vanduul fun zones and Centauri UEE fuckery.
I don't know why anyone would hang in Banu space, who the hell wants to live in palm rubbing space?
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>>153401687
You start off from a number of different worlds, depending on your starter hangar I think
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>>153401343
I can only pray they offer the hair styles in character customization.
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Not sure about Auto pilot. Would be interested in what folk who have been out to the rift, Sag A in a sidewinder, Buckyball Enduracne races have to say o the topic. Would it be a module like the docking computer?

So could I auto pilot toSag A or Jques in an Asp and then instantly have all my ships from the other side of the galaxy transported there? Sounds pretty awful. Might as well just have instant travel and play an arcade game.

NNope not like the sound of this... well quite unsre.

How about we just scrap suercruise and just clik on the galaxy map and choose where we want all outr stuff to be each time we log in. H,, I really don feel so good about auto pilot and instant ship transfer.
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>>153401687
I want to chill with the space turtles and take things slow, duuude.
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>>153401448
Sexy. Crap....almost want to get horizons on sale now
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>>153401906
>"Fill my cloaca with your filthy ape seed"
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>>153402272
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>>153401687
>Nul

Bretty gud choice. You want to live in the downed Bengal, right?

http://imgur.com/a/OPcaX

That whole side of the galaxy will be pretty sketchy with Vanduul raids though, not sure if worth it.
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>>153402272
Prophecy was shit.

What was this about anyway?
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>>153402514
I don't know, but it's just incredibly weird to see a guy hate on an amazing space series like Freespace, just because it probably took people away from Wing Commander.

I never played Wing Commander, it looks garbage. Same with Privateer. Freelancer was quite bad too, compared to Starlancer.

I guess fanboyism; the post.

>>153402418
You've called me Nick twice now, and I don't know why. I obviously missed the in-joke or the fantasy you made up.
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>>153402729
Privateer was super good.
Wing Commander was good up through 4. Prophecy was shit.
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>>153402729
Sure Nick.
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Privateer and Wing Commander are dated, ugly pieces of shit. Take off your nostalgia goggles dumbfucks.

The only good game was Freelancer.
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>>153402981
>Freelancer
>good
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>>153402981
Freelancer is as dated.

At least wing commander 1 and 2 as well as privateer have the retro artstyle that every indie dev and their mom are trying to recapture.
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>>153402981
>The only good game was Freelancer.
I thought Starlancer was much better, a pilot in a squadron flying off a carrier. I tried Freelancer and uninstalled it because of how bad the mouse control system was, I hated it. I forced myself to play it again so I could complete the campaign.

>>153402909
Explain this meme?
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4 panthers or 4 Mk3 Tarantulas on a sabre?

Using joystick. Pic Unrelated
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>ED and SC controls and movement are shit

>FUCK OFF RETARD IT'S A SIM, DEAL WITH IT, GIT GUD, AIM BETTER, FAG

>but anons, artificially decreasing the player's ability to steer through lag and slow rotation is not good gameplay
>neither is intentionally increasing travel times and making travel mechanics hard as fuck just to get you to spend more time in game
>both are cumbersome, extremely counter-productive and everything, but intuitive

>WE ARE TRYING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION HERE! SHUT THE FUCK UP! YOU WANT EVERYTHING ON EASY MODE, GO PLAY CALL OF DUTY, KID!

L I T E R A L L Y every thread when you try to talk reason here.
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>>153403427
>He thinks the forums are /elitestardangerouscitizengeneral/
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>>153402906
/g/912060/465f7250f2/
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>>153401343
Nyx is going to be a fucking warzone
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>>153403427
Who are you quoting? Nobody here has said anything remotely close to this form of argument since we merged afaik
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>>153403720
What makes you say that?
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>>153403824
Major Crossroads, not under UEE protection, and next to a Vanduul system

hopefully it will keep mercs like me employed running convoy duty
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>>153401343
I want to be a pirate, so I'll start out at Sol and make my way to Nul, Leir, or Nyx if I really feel like traveling.
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>>153403427
So let me get this right. Your idea of the ideal space game is one in which all ships turn as fast as you can move your mouse, thus being fuctionally identical in terms of maneuverability, and you teleport from station to station immediately, removing the possibility of piracy or really anything interesting happening along the way.

Fuck off.
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>>153403391
please respond, I can only afford 1 atm
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>>153404006
The main reason it will be a warzone is because it contains Delamar and Levsky, so it'll be freeboater/pirate mecca along with Cathcart, but unlike Carthcart, like you say it is a major nexus between multiple UEE systems. Griefers will naturally flock there, it will probably be where many of the newest ones originally spawn, but it's also unavoidable for major carebear trade routes, and like you say it's not UEE protected

It's going to be a fucking mess.
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>>153403427
>but anons,... but intuitive

>this whole fucking paragraph
Please tell me you're joking. Jesus christ kill yourself.
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Pretty impressive shit right dere, too bad the ship is absolute dogshit.
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>>153404182
Not at all. The way you jumped to the other extreme in the comparison, immediately, show your insecurity and that deep down you know I'm right, but your "loyalty" toward the game(s) prevents you from admitting it.

There is a middle ground where each ships turns according to its size/mass THAT IS NOT ARTIFICIALLY INFLATED X 100 TIMES

and

a warp time that is not measurement in dozens of minutes or AN EXTREMELY LONG AND HARD SUPERCRUISE MODE existing solely to extend your game time
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>>153403391
>>153404207
Panthers for DPS. Tarantulas if you have amazing aim and can land all of your shots.
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>>153401343
Why the fuck is the synthworld project in fucking CHRONOS of all possible places. It's near the vanduul frontier, you have to go through fucking NYX, and the prison colony system just to get to it, it's not near any major economic centres, completely cut off etc.

Wouldn't it make more sense to just make a new world orbiting or something? Or literally any system near Terra that doesn't have many planets, like Baker, Kiel, Hadrian, etc
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What's currently the best Size 2 Missile in 2.5?

Ignite II
Tempest II
Strikeforce II
Rattler II
Dominator II

???
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>>153404440
Reliant is pretty good if you are lucky enough to avoid the bugs that cripple the flight model.
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>>153404549
I actually expect the synthworld bullshit to be completely cut. It would require too much for such little potential.
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>>153404681
>two tiny laser peashooters
>slow and not very maneuverable
>that fucking vertical span when trying to maneuver near space stations
Honestly it's just bad, but it looks very cool.
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>>153404207
Wild geese mod starbridge is best stargbidge.
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>>153404519
Should be like Star Trek where it can take hours if not days or weeks to go between star systems.
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>>153404639
Tried the neutron cannon.
They sap power from shields and take several hits to destroy even Aurora.
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Does anyone here have fun in Star Citizen? Please be honest, this is anonymous.

Myself? Not really.

>spawn a ship
>someone rams it off the platform
>spend another 5 minutes going through the animation and running around to spawn a ship
>finally take off
>warp to a location
>get killed by some griefer

>do it all over again
>10 minutes later, you haven't died
>discover a broken constellation in the asteroid belt
>approach it
>get out of my ship to float over to it
>the cargo doors open
>float inside
>suddenly i fly off at 100km/h in to space
>no idea how i died
>no chat log or damage log to look at
>no killcam to see if anyone killed me
>can't respawn
>alt+tab out and end the game in task manager

I mean, other people make a living on youtube just streaming Star Citizen, and hype it up and say it's so cool and awesome, and they can run it without jittering.

And I just think 'is it me?'

Red pill me on the state of Star Citizen.
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>>153404267
>griefers

You mean pirates?
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>>153404796
The Kore has 2 1 ones and one size 3, that's bretty decent desu, it has the best shields in its size class by far (though they are not available yet due to the shield system not being implemented) and it actually has more armour than the aurora too. The Tana has the most daka of any ship it's size too.

It actually turns and moves really well, if you avoid the shitty bug.
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>>153404882
Yeah they could actually use a bit of a power bump but with two of them plus the Tigerstreik you can get some real good results if you can aim.
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>>153402729
>>153402514
Derek Smart tried (and failed) to acquire the FreeSpace license.
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>>153404907
I mean specifically the ones who destroy ship for shits and giggles. I mean obviously it'll have a lot of piracy for profit too, but I don't think it'll be unique in that regard.

Due to Levsky, it will likely be the best place to spawn with an aurora and go ramming is what I'm saying, or that kind of person will naturally gravitate there.
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>>153404902
There is literally nothing to do in SC right now.
There will be slightly less than nothing to do in 3.0
I'm not even bothering to reinstall it until the thing goes into actual alpha, maybe even beta.
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>>153404519
The only thing it shows is that your method of constructing a straw man and presenting its existence as your entire argument is unproductive and frankly retarded. If you have a better idea say it instead of just saying that your imaginary opponent is wrong.
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>>153404990
>Derek Smart tried (and failed) to acquire the FreeSpace license.
Well there's never going to be a Freespace 3 unless someone with funding who likes space games buys it and makes one.

I'd be 100% OK with DS buying Freespace rights and making a sequel.
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>>153404549
To be fair, it's supposed to be labeled as a fucking "horrendous mistake" in-game, and that sort of lends credence to the idea.
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>>153404882
I'll add that their actually dreadfully efficient against big ships.
I easily 1v1'd a Connie in my Avenger by circling it and shooting its engines off until it couldn't move anymore.
Pretty satisfying desu.
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>>153404902
>Does anyone here have fun in Star Citizen? Please be honest, this is anonymous.

Yeah, I've had loads of fun in the PU, though eventually I just got tired of the same two missions, dicking around and exploring/interacting with players in my ship is still super satisfying.

From

>Red pill me on the state of Star Citizen.

I assume you are just a worthless memer though.
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>>153404990
I can only imagine the abortion he would have released with the freespace name.

Actually wait, I bet he'd just slightly mod the original, plagiarize a fuckload of long released mods, and sell it for full price, hailing it as not $120 million better than star citizen.
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>>153404902
>Spawn ship
>Go to ship
>Look at weapon options, swap a couple things
>Fly off
>Get to Grim Hek
>People crashing into each other, shooting each other
>Go inside
>Pass a player
>/salute
>They salute back
>They run off outside
>Go down elevator
>Look at armours
>Don't swap this time
>Go back outside
>Get in Aurora
>Fly to Korea
>Blunder around get 6.5k credits
>Go back outside
>Fly away
>Game crashes
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>>153405176
>derek
>making a fun or even completed game

l o l
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>>153405183
Right, but this just takes it to a whole new level. Chronos might be the single worst UEE system they could have picked, not counting the ones actively raided by the Vanduul I guess.
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>see a player in a Type 6 get interdicted by an NPC pirate in a Viper
>go to the wake
>start shooting the pirate
>LOL BOUNTY FOR ASSAULT
>what
>literally scanned the pirate twice, once on SC, and saw the Wanted tag twice
>3 cops there start shooting me instantly
>they cant really hurt my shields
>just launch missiles at the pirate
>shields down
>Type 6 leaves
>highwake out
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>>153405176
Monkey's Paw, Anon.
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>>153405334
I'm talking about making a Freespace game. Not some stupid battlecruiser simulator. Surely he'd stay true to the aesthetics, lore and gameplay of Freespace.

Anyway, I just want the franchise revived, that's all.

>>153405268
Why do you have a fun time, and I just die in random bugs and by random people?

Can't be coincidence.

But, desu the closest thing I had to fun in Star Citizen was doing the P.I. secondary mission, and floating around the dead abandoned station looking for clues. It was quite cool, except I know if I'd have been killed it would have been annoying, and would have taken another 20 minutes to get back there, and that's not fun. I'm definitely going to use those PVP sliders.
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>>153405672
You're implying Derek was even competent with battlecruiser.
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>>153404207
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>>153405672
>PvP slider

hope they remove it. The chance of being attacked adds weight to peoples actions.
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>>153405835
>No toilet
HOW WILL WE TAKE OUR SPACE SHITS
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Why do the pirates fly around at 15 m/s? It makes fighting them so goddamn fucking annoying.
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>>153404902
>>>>>griefers
I got stuck afk above grmhex for like 15 minutes because netcode so I went to take a dump and I was still alive when I got back even though lots of people were coming and going. there are real issues with the game and you hardly mentioned any of them.

why haven't I got the teleportation bug yet? are people just mashing into bulkheads on purpose?
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>>153405962
I think their AI is another one of the legendary "dead ends" that Star Citizen is full of right now, they are not bothering to fix it as the whole thing is getting replaced in either 2.6 or 3.0
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>>153405782
I didn't mean to imply that. Just that the guy has enough money to hire a competent team to make another Freespace game.

>>153405915
>The chance of being attacked adds weight to peoples actions.
That's all well and good if you're the person sitting in some dark room camping people trying to explore and do missions. They're the one that has to sit through pointless, annoying and frankly boring animations of waking up in bed, running to terminals and paying fees to spawn their ships, and taking their time to fly millions of miles back to where you are, just to try and throw a grenade in to kill you, only to get killed again.

I'm sorry, but unless they have PVP sliders, I'm sticking to SP only. What possibly penalties can they put in the game to stop people ruining your play?
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>>153406207
>Derek
>money
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>>153405915
PvP slider is a misnomer though, always has been, but PvP is easier to type than Player encounter chance slider.
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>>153406207
Just stay in carebear UEE space, or maybe become a bounty hunter and make a living off these guys.
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>>153406306
So, my options are:
>play in an empty server, populated only by bots
or
>encounter dozens of other players who can ram me, kill me, steal all my stuff, with absolutely no consequence, other than maybe being chased by 'police' until they simply warp to another location
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>>153406497
>please don't make me play with other people I can't handle online games
>but I don't want to play only with bots either
so what the fuck do you want?
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>>153405930
look again, left of the 5
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>>153406497
The chance of being griefed is going to come down to how effective NPC police forces are.

I'd hope they're more reliable than E:D's police.

Like I'd hope that bounties gained in UEE space are carried throughout all UEE space, so to avoid punishment they'd have to jump to non UEE space. And hopefully jump points are patrolled so to get out they'd have to run a blockade.
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>>153399658
looks like a pre rendered scripted event
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>>153406497
The 'slider' never goes to pure bots or even close to pure bots.

By the way, you're getting paid in part for the risk you're taking, then complaining about the risk. I'll be camping those spots to slot people just for you
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What's the best huge weapon for conda?

By looking at ingame stats it seems the MC is kind of sweet, but what's it like in practice?
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>>153406621
>so what the fuck do you want?
The ability to play while minding my own business. You can do passive mode in GTAV.

Why not add a como rose feature where you aim at another player and request PVP or mission grouping or other stuff like that?
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>>153406802
MC is great.
Conda with 100% MC's eats shit up and is adequate dakka for an ork warboss.
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>>153405672
Because I expect to die to bugs and shitty players, but don't.
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>>153406903
Oh you're so precious, anon.
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>>153404598
Anyone?
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>>153406497
You are massively overestimating how many griefers there will be, look at the game right now where there is almost no reason not to grief, if anything it makes the game more interesting in that you get Grimhex, the only consequence is too many times and you get a bullseye on your back.

And still most people leave you completely alone.
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>>153407063
>Thick understructure
unf
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>>153404902
>be at Kareah roaming around waiting for criminals to kill them
>hear a ship approaching
>flies around the station for a bit
>shoots at my parked ship, blows it up
>wew rude
>see him approaching a landing pad through the window
>try to guess which airlock he'll use to enter the station
>wait him right outside the door
>shoot him when the door opens
>steal his ship and fly back to Port Olisar

I'm having quite a bit of fun although right now you kinda have to make your own fun because there's pretty much no content. 3.0 can't come too soon.

(video of my cool story : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJtdmUxOBgM )
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>>153406207
literal carebear spotted. Stay in Terra or Sol faggot.
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>>153406207
How does being a carebear feel?

Also why bother trying to play a multiplayer game at all if you dont like what other people do?
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>>153407526
>literal carebear spotted
No, I'm just someone who doesn't want forced PVP.

Nothing stopping CIG from implementing double rewards for people who play in PVP mode, because of the risk they take. Just like there's no reason to not have a passive mode where you can see other players but can only get killed by NPCs, unless you interact with other players and turn on PVP/mission matching.

But whatever, I don't care about your insults.
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>>153406903
>The ability to play while minding my own business. You can do passive mode in GTAV.
>Why not add a como rose feature where you aim at another player and request PVP or mission grouping or other stuff like that?
I am so thankful that people like you are ignored and maligned by the community.
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>>153406760
Honestly there's an easy way to make people think twice before griefing. It's to have some powerful interdiction tools that police NPC and Bounty Hunters can use, so that you can't just go around shooting people and warp out while 10 people are trying to get your ass.
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>>153407821
>I don't want forced PvP

Wrong game. You will be attacked at some point, and PVP will be in the game regardless of your carebear attitude. If you want to be safe in your little box go play E:D, the game that allows that. Also note that's the main reason the game is shit, but it's perfect for you :)
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>>153407921
I want escape from manhattan Freelancer shenanigans every time if I want to go pirate.
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>>153407909
One thing I learned about MMO communities over the years is that the people who are eager to appear like the most hardcore and skilled are often the ones to hate actual player interactions.

>YEAH IM GONNA KILL SO MANY NOOBS AND DRINK THEIR TEARS, OPEN WORLD PVP FTW

When really, you're going to get killed by other people, and you will likely uninstall the game in the first 2 weeks.
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>>153407821
>No, I'm just someone who doesn't want forced PVP.
>baaawww, why are there other players in an MMO that dont do exactly what I want to do?
Holy shit, I thought people like you were not real.
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>>153408061
Explain
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>>153408123
>>153408048
>>153407909
>>153407774
>>153407526
Honestly you can stop samefagging.
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>>153407063
It's still Tempest II's I think.

Also I think I had that transformer as a kid.
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>>153407821
>here, let's make the same shitty mistake that E:D did and kill our game!

I will never understand you people. Go back to RSI with your kin
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>>153408150
If you played freelancer, there's a point in the main story where you're branded a traitor because alien shenanigans. You have to escape Manhattan and then liberty space while the entire navy is after you.

You run a blockade against destroyers and fighter wings then escape into the badlands.
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>>153407921
Te problem there is pirates would have the same tools. It's a valid mechanic but it doesn't address this particular concern.
Really you just need a meaningful bounty system, so that freighters have to watch their ass for pirates, but pirates have to watch theirs for bounty hunters as a consequence.

As for carebear anon: Just stick to safer areas or fly with an escort.
Actually a system for hiring people to escort you might work. E:D has a very basic one where anyone in your wing who's with you when you sell cargo gets 5% of your profit. The problem there is that A: It's hard to justify flying escort when you could just be hauling yourself and B: There's no way to match up with people.
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>>153408473
Also you'd have to introduce weapons magically not hurting your wingmates in order for matching with randos to work, and not many people really want that.
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>>153407821
>Play online game set in the wild west of space
>Complain when you need to deal with other players or enemy npcs

Why do you faggots play these games? There are plenty of single player games for you fucks to enjoy. Do you also play FPS games and cry when someone shoots you?
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>>153408283
>let's make the same shitty mistake that E:D did
No CIG are making totally different mistakes.

Here's an example; allowing people to buy $2,500 space ships with dozens of crew gunners, and throwing them in to an open world PVP server with no drawbacks to literally ganking anyone, as long as the gunners can kill a few UEE police in avengers, and occasionally jumping to non-UEE space to avoid being boarded.

B-b-but they won't be allowed in to UEE space! Where will they be allowed to buy weapons from!?

Sorry, but there needs to be an option to turn off PVP, else it will die quickly and be a shit game.

>>153408658
>literally nothing stopping CIG from implementing passive mode, allowing both PVE and PVP players to play happily and switch between the 2 modes
>NO THEY SHOULD NOT DO THAT!
>THEY HAVE TO DO IT THE WAY THAT I WANT TO!
>GO BACK TO YOUR OTHER CAREBEAR GAME

See, I can make you look stupid too.
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>>153408473
>Te problem there is pirates would have the same tools.
Yes but that doesn't matter.
>be pirate
>locate some hauler with juicy cargo
>interdict it with tractor beam or whatever
>3 police ships show up and interdict you
>ur fugged, gotta fight them off, giving your prey an opportunity to save their skin
That'd be a reasonable system that doesn't fuck over criminals nor their potential victims.
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>>153408225
>only one person can disagree with me

kek, try again carebear.

>>153408256
Rattlers are better
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>>153408782
I'm going to enjoy your tears at release.
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>>153404549
>>153405183
>>153405394
It's a political project designed specifically to make people feel less guilty about colonialism during the Messer era. The lack of serious thought is the most realistic part of that whole project.
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>>153408782
>See I can make you look stupid too

I'm not the one making you look stupid, you are. You're the equivalent of a retard going into a gay bar and wondering why there are dicks out everywhere and crying to the management about it.
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>>153408782
>Sorry, but there needs to be an option to turn off PVP, else it will die quickly and be a shit game.
We could nip this problem in the bud and you could just never play the game to begin with, most people are actual faggots who cry when something negative happens to them.
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>>153408782
How is that a mistake if they haven't even made it yet? Capital ships are not in the game in any form yet and we have literally no information on how they will function, it's way too early to talk about this shit.
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>>153408985
>are
Aren't
kek
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>>153408782
You're crying here changes nothing about the game. see: >>153408048
ED is the game for you. Not SC. There will be PvP. End of story, bitch about it on RSI like your other carebear allies.
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>>153408658
>There are plenty of single player games for you fucks to enjoy
Actually no there aren't
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>>153409213
>Actually no there aren't
>So my solution is to try to ruin a multiplayer game!
Excellent, truly excellent.
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>>153409213
Actually yes there are. In fact, I made a lovely pastebin in the OP that you can use to find those games. I suggest doing it.
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>I'm going to enjoy your tears at release.
This game isn't worth crying over. I'd rather honestly uninstall and watch the game die and see all you flock to another /vg/ general and hype it up for 5 years before you get disappointed with that next game too.

>>153408934
>You're the equivalent of a retard going into a gay bar and wondering why there are dicks out everywhere
More like going to a normal bar, and wanting there to be no degenerates with their sexual organs hanging out, and one homo (you) telling me to go back to the hetero bar.

>>153409117
No, Star Citizen isn't for you. Because I said so. See how that works? Or doesn't, more accurately.
>>
can debris actually damage you in AC? I have never died from running into it
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>>153409213
There's links to them in the OP you retard. Go play your single player games and stay out of our multiplayer game.
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>>153409354
>I don't like the way things are right now and you do
>clearly this game is for me, not you.
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>>153409354
>Moe like going to a normal bar

No you fucking faggot. You're going into an environment which you don't want, and then demanding it change to meet your needs. You're literally the equivalent of a SJW. Kill yourself.
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>>153409354
>so autistic he wants to make a multiplayer game single player because of his anxiety
>takes his time to photoshop a picture of people disagreeing with him to make it seem like its only one person and not 8
Good post.
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>>153409354
You keep getting more retarded with every post.
Just end yourself already before you forget how to breathe and die painfully of asphyxiation.
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>>153409354
>gets btfo
>shoops evidence to try and damage control himself
Will you just leave already? Anons redirected you to single player games that do exactly what you want. Just fuck off from our multiplayer game because it will not be what you want it to be.
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>>153409354
You're already crying butch tears, though.

But no, the game isn't for you, anon. Chris has a vision, and that vision is unavoidable pvp. Fuck off to a game that caters to your shit taste instead.
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>>153408929
Is that the in lore explanation for why it's in bumfuck system in the nowhere nebula?
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>>153409480
How about we agree to disagree? You want there to be no option for half the MMO community to play the way they want, so that you (in the other half) can play the way YOU want.

And I can want there to be an option, to allow both halves (read: everyone in the MMO community) to be able to play the way that they want to.

See? You're unreasonable. MY WAY OR NO WAY, etc. It's very childish.

>>153409576
>he wants to make a multiplayer game single player
Maybe you didn't read it properly, or are using strawman arguments, I'm not sure. This isn't what I said.

>>153409625
k

>>153409669
>shoops evidence
I don't have photoshop.

>>153409692
>You're already crying
I'm not. You're defending a stupid design in a game which hasn't even been built yet.

>post yfw when you see PVP sliders introduced
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>>153409692
>Unavoidable

Well, it's not unavoidable, but most likely has to be dealt with in some manner. Going around, stealth, escort, etc.

But that faggot better not get his wishes and get a passive mode like GTAV. That's retarded shit, especially if that can be abused in the way he wants it to

>Passive mode to make shit loads of money with trading or smuggling
>Passive mode to contribute to changing a system from pirate

etc
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>>153409852
>You want
It isnt the anon though, it is Chris Roberts that wants this, either you accept it and play or you shuffle on fuckwit.
>This isn't what I said.
>I want a pvp slider that way I cannot be killed by other people in an MMO
What is the difference?

You really are an insufferable faggot.
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>>153409852
(You)
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>>153409940
Chris very recently reiterated that the pop slider still allowed players to find people with it turned to minimum easily.isn't going to change, guy is just being a little bitch.
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>>153405403
Hurray. Youve just found out korean grindfest is not persistent. Even the pirate respawns from sc to realspace.
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>>153409852
>Pvp sliders

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4UaUmJ8Ho8#t=6m31s

Also PVP sliders were never for avoiding it. It was to slightly reduce it.
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Why won't CIG make the Reliant red????
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>>153409852
Star Citizen is multiplayer. This will not change, so go to the pastebin in the OP for single player space games or play ED that caters perfectly to what you want.
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>>153408048

The main reason that E:D is shit is because the devs are lazy and use Solo as a crutch to not bother implementing non-pvp areas like every other MMO has.
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>>153410163
This is a bought asset, right?

They should like, put it in a museum somewhere on a planet, you know? Like a decommissioned shit, or unidentified alien craft manufacturer.
>>
>there are people still replying to the delusional carebear
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>>153410102

It was embarrassing, but at least it didnt end with the other guy getting rekt. So, mission accomplished. Awkwardly.
>>
best multipurpose for cargo and exploration?
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>>153409940
>But that faggot
Why do you people keep calling me a faggot? I'm not the one who brought up gay bars and having penises hanging out. Honestly, that's rather crude.

>>153410020
>Chris Roberts that wants this
Yes that's the problem, he's putting terrible ideas in to the game.

This anon had a good solution to a bad idea >>153407921
>Honestly there's an easy way to make people think twice before griefing. It's to have some powerful interdiction tools that police NPC and Bounty Hunters can use, so that you can't just go around shooting people and warp out while 10 people are trying to get your ass.

But it still puts you in a position to get ganked in the middle of something, and be forced to go through animations/fees/travel/landing/floating around, just to possibly get killed again. It's like playing ARMA but taking way longer to get back to the action.
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>>153410373
>Yes that's the problem, he's putting terrible ideas in to the game.
>but my ideas are better!
Jesus.
>But it still puts you in a position to get ganked in the middle of something, and be forced to go through animations/fees/travel/landing/floating around, just to possibly get killed again.
>bawwww why do other people play MMOs and why do they not do the same things I want to do!
Surely you are trolling, no one is this much of a faggot.
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>>153409940
Might come as a surprise anon, but you're going to die in the game to players. I'm sorry this triggers you so hard you're having a bitch fit over why Chris won't change his game to suit your desires, but it won't happen.

Thank god.
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>>153410373
>Why do you people keep calling me a faggot?

>Why do you people keep calling me a faggot?
>Why do you people keep calling me a faggot?
>Why do you people keep calling me a faggot?
>Why do you people keep calling me a faggot?
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>>153410186
>Star Citizen is multiplayer
Yes and so is GTAV. That game allows you to turn on passive mode, to avoid a cheater using a trainer from raining explosions on you and spawning tug boats on top of your car to grief you.

Simple solution that seems to make half the community quite angry. The open-world PVP / griefing half. Coincidence?

>i should be allowed to ram you off the landing pad xD
>my actions have weight to them!

Fun for the griefer, not anyone else.
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>>153409852
>post yfw when you see PVP sliders introduced
>He's so stupid he doesn't realize none of us have a problem with pvp sliders and they were never intended to remove pvp.

kek. I'd compare you to Derek but he at least exercises some brainpower in his shitposts.
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>>153410609
>Might come as a surprise anon

Are you retarded?

>>153410373
Because you're literally a faggot that would go to a gay bar and then complain it's full of gays, you fucking faggot.
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>>153410672
Go play Elite Dangerous that has exactly what you want.
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>>153410564
>but my ideas are better
It's true. I don't live in a mansion, have a boat, or get $120million in donations to make a semi-interesting game.

Forced PVP is terrible.
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>yfw the grand reveal of playerslider is just a mobi-glass atlas map app that displays the density of human players at jump points and avoiding players is all on you
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>>153410672
GTAV has a multiplayer mode. That is different from being a multiplayer game. The GTA series is and always has been primarily single-player. Hell it took them months to add multiplayer to V.
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>>153409852
The people that want to avoid PVP at all cost can play Squadron.
There will be no changes to how the world operate, matter of fact the game as it is right now, is fully centered around the fact that you can easily slip to be a wanted criminal.

Stick to single player.
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>>153410672
But there is already a game for you, it is called E:D, go play that and stop trying to shit up SC.

>Forced PVP is terrible.
Then dont play an MMO and stop posting in this thread.
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>>153410863
... that would actually be pretty cool.
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>>153410863
That's a good idea, actually.
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>>153410863
That would actually be cool desu.
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>>153410863
FUND IT
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>>153410901
>GTAV has a multiplayer mode. That is different from being a multiplayer game
GTAV is SQ42.
GTAV Online is Star Citizen.
Now we can be specific, and not anal about it.

GTAV Online has passive mode, and stops cheaters from killing you, and lets you go AFK, do whatever, roleplay, interact with NPCs, customize your stuff, all without having to go through unskippable nonsense and 15 minutes to get back to what you were doing.

GTAV Online is a superior game, Q.E.D.

>>153410827
>Go play Elite Dangerous that has exactly what you want.
I don't want to play E:D, it doesn't have anything I want. Except beam weapons and better fast travel and space stations and HUDs.

>>153410929
>Then dont play an MMO
see >>153409852
MY WAY OR NO WAY, etc. It's very childish.
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>>153410840
>Forced PVP

You're not forced to do anything. You can stay in high security and never have to deal with any players trying to kill you.
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>>153411201
>I don't want to play E:D, it doesn't have anything I want
Except safety from other players in a multiplayer game.

>MY WAY OR NO WAY, etc. It's very childish.
Better take it up with Chris Roberts then you enormous faggot.
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>>153410863
So it's not a fucking player slider, it's just a heat map
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>>153411392
>Better take it up with Chris Roberts then
He wouldn't even make it passed Sandi.
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>>153411309
But that's limiting people from experiencing the whole game.
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>FDev is too lazy to lay down any ground rules
>just let the players figure it out and call it "emergent gameplay"
>players end up just yelling at each other and threatening to use a Report button that doesnt actually do anything
>players start pulling the plug or hiding in solo
>game becomes empty and boring
>griefers at the engineer bases, the MMO equivilent of having PKers at the bank
>with no actual rules to fall back on, and no in-game measures of enforcing player-made rules, everyone just fucking hates and mistrusts each other for years

>THIS GAME ISNT LIKE EVE -dad
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Honestly I think the reason solo mode is so popular in E:D is just because the risk, between 5% of your ship's value and the full loss of any cargo you're carrying, is so much larger than any reward.
Trading runs? You're looking at a loss of 10m in a loaded T9 if you're destroyed versus MAYBE 800k/run on a decent route. Conflict zones? That's a joke. Again a rebuy in the millions for a few thousand.
Just think what a money sink a CZ would be if there were only players. Every time someone gains 50k someone else loses millions. The penalty system really seems to be designed for single-player, so I can't blame people who play in solo or Mobius.
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>>153411508
And? You're the one that made the decision to limit yourself because you want to avoid player interaction at all costs. You only have yourself to blame.
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>>153410906
Forgot my tag, sorry.

Expect PVP, if you do not like this aspect of our game, stick to the single player.
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>>153411608
>you want to avoid player interaction at all costs
No, that's what you are projecting on me. Drop the attitude, and be rational.
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>>153403391
>No free roam space game where you can burn Kharak
Sad Taiidani
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>>153409724
>https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/12790-4-Million-New-System-New-Ship-New-Goals
>Site of the infamous Synthworld Project. Chosen because it’s a sparse, vast, empty system. The planets Chronos I & II are dead worlds on an orbit very close to their sun. An ELE destroyed the planets on the outer half of the system, offering the perfect opportunity to design the Synthworld’s distance and orbit from the sun for optimal planetary conditions.

It's old lore, but that's the official reason it was chosen.
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>>153411679
>No, that's what you are projecting on me
>you are projecting my own words at me and it isnt what I said
You said you wanted completely safety from other players like GTAV, he isnt projecting anything aside from quoting your retarded ass.
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>there are people STILL replying to the salty carebear
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>>153411797
>it isnt what I said
It's not. You should go back up the thread and find where I said "want to avoid player interaction at all costs".
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>>153411679
>drop the attitude and be rational

As soon as you stop expecting the game to cater to your every whim.
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>>153411762
This should look dope when combined with PD tech.
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>>153411816
I am one of those people and the other thing I can do with my time right now is stare at my smoker as it does its job, so really this is a better use of my time.

>>153411872
>logical equivalence is a foreign idea to me.
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>>153410863
>yfw the grand reveal is a literal passive mode toggle and you realize carebears always win
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>A literal SJW expects the system to cater to his autism
>All of /scedg/ argues with him.
desu I understand. This is our surrogate outlet since we can't shit on every retarded SJW on the planet simultaneously.
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>>153411908
>As soon as you stop expecting the game to cater to your every whim.
Don't get me started on what else there is in the game that sucks.

But, seriously, there are 2 options;
>make EVERYONE who plays the game be able to play however they want to
>tell half the people to leave the community because you want to grief people
Seems like you're the irrational one quite frankly.

>>153412032
"want to avoid player interaction at all costs" is not equivalent to wanting a passive mode implemented to allow AFK, non-PVP and a bunch of other benefits, first and foremost being able to remove the ability of griefers to ruin fun.

They are not equivalent. Please be rational.
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>>153411578
Don't worry, I'm sure that space legs will fix everything.
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>>153412153
>Play however they want

You can, in high security. High security is designed for you. Have fun.
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>>153406760
>more reliable than E:D's police.
They really need to boost the difference in system security. High and capital system (Sol/Achenar) security should be mental. Big wings (6-8) of Deadly/Elite Vultures and Couriers. While low security is like 1 dinged up Eagle that they found behind the police station.
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>15 tons of platinum for 60ly at 250k
that's great, isn't it?
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>>153405915

>The chance of being attacked adds weight to peoples actions.

No it adds weight to the choice to never leave your ships other than at landing zones. You're never going to have the opportunity to kill carebears because they'll always fight you on their terms and never yours.

>>153406207

>That's all well and good if you're the person sitting in some dark room camping people trying to explore and do missions.

See that's exactly the thing. The only people who are going to bother doing missions where you go into derelict ships, empty stations, or any shit like that are the people with a small army of NPCs they they can send to swarm some camping faggot to death with.
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>>153412357
Don't forget
>Send out distress signal
>Police jump in
>Boost towards them, pirate on my tail
>Hold citizen and PREPARE FOR A ROUTINE SECURITY SCAN
>Citizen please we cannot address your concern if you do not SUBMIT TO A SECURITY SCAN
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>CM for Lavian Brandy

Fuck me how long does that stuff take to refresh?
You can only buy 6 at a time.
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>>153412153
Goddamn you are on insufferable faggot.
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>>153412246
>High security is designed for you
Yeah that's cool, but I'm still unable to experience half of the game because of a stupid design flaw. Allowing people to play passively when they choose to isn't a big deal. It won't take away from your experience, you can still play in active mode, and do whatever you want.

You people who don't want players to be able to choose are always so unreasonable. Like spoiled little children who won't share their toys with their friends, it's your way or no way, etc. Makes me think you're either a shill or a dev who is defending the design decision.
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>>153412183

I wonder if any of the game devs have gotten rekt for no reason by a random player. You think it'd open their eyes to the lack of balance?

Oh who am I kidding, though. Most of the time, when that happens, the guy that got killed goes on the forums and actually complains that the other guy didnt gape his asshole wide enough.
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>>153412515
check your fire ;)
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>>153412357
ED's police confuse me.

I attacked a wanted ship just like all of them, and then got a bounty for dealing damage to it.

As I attempted to get the hell out of dodge they all turned to me and blasted my ass to oblivion.
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>>153412647
>Yeah that's cool, but I'm still unable to experience half of the game because of a stupid design flaw.
Only to you, to others it is called a multiplayer game.
>design decision.
>to make a multiplayer game multiplayer
Your posts just get more and more retarded, keep posting.
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>>153412647
Anon, low security systems are dangerous. If you don't want to encounter damger, you should stay in high security systems. This is entirely your own choice.
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>>153412647
>but I'm still unable to experience half of the game because of a stupid design flaw

Again, that's your decision. You only have yourself to blame. I swear you must be one of those fuckers that plays games like War Thunder just to sight see, and then you wonder why your team is mad at you for doing nothing.
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>>153412153

Just play a private server with pvp off as someone will undoubtedly make one.

Just remember there are more ways to grief and ebintroll than direct pvp. Don't be shocked or too upset when you find jerk m8's who keep locking the big crew ships door and stranding each other on moons for sofunnah salt farming.
Or bumping ships into asteroids because while player on player ship collision won't deliver damage, the space rocks still might.
Or the bottom of the barrel of ebingriefing, opening the airlocks and jettison cargo in flight.

You can't stop jerks online, only choose to play or not play with other players.
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>>153412802
>multiplayer games must be open world pvp-oriented where you can ruin people's play time and then tell them to leave if they don't like it

Hmm, I thought the goons got bored of this game and left.
>>
Did Crysis control as badly as SC on foot?
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>>153412515

This is hilarious to read.
Tell me, when a ship is damaged and inoperable do they ask you've tried turning it off and on again?
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>>153412940
>low security systems are dangerous
Yes, because of NPCs. Not because of griefers.

>>153412960
I agree with this, I think there will be people entirely dedicated to griefing with annoying bugs and things that can't be stopped. If there is no killcam or damage log, it will be much worse.
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>>153412647
We are the spoiled children? When you're the one demanding CIG changes the game's core mechanics massively just to make you happy?
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>>153413018
Come to think of it, it feels as clunky as DayZ/ArmA.
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>>153413014
>A player organization has taken control of a pirate base
>Anon: Hmm, I am entitled to use that pirate base in low security, time to turn on passive mode and reap all the benefits that player group worked endlessly to gain so I'm going to turn on passive mode and get everything they worked for for free

Why do you keep posting?
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>>153411201
>Except beam weapons
Goddamn I love beam lasers in Elite. I don't think they're optimal (pulses are mostly better) but nothing beats dragging that cutting beam over someone's hull and seeing the glowing metal path left behind. It's like a lightsaber.
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>>153412542
Rare commodities never refresh as long as you have the maximum amount. They require you to fly out, sell them, and return for another allotment. It's dumb and grindy, just like everything else.
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>>153412719
The dad explanation is if you fire even a split second before your scanner confirms they are wanted then it's considered "firing on an innocent". Shit's retarded, I mean who reports this to the police? The pirate I hit? Why would anyone listen to him? My computer? I'd just turn that off.

Also all ED police are Judge Dredd and the punishment for every crime is death. Maybe that's because both Dredd and FDev are British.
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>>153413673
>>153412719
One of the worst gameplay designs is that aspect of the wanted system. Makes absolutely no sense that you need to scan the criminal first to shoot him, despite the fact that cops are already shooting at him.

The worst part is that this doesn't apply to NPCs. I shot a copy by mistake and got a wanted level. A bounty hunting NPC immediately started attacking me without scanning me.
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>>153413985
>despite the fact that cops are already shooting at him
But that's nothing to do with you. Civilians don't kill criminals, it's not your job.
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>>153414069
>Murder is okay if you scan them first
>Murder is not okay if you don't scan them, despite the cops trying to murder them

>But that's nothing to do with you

Did you conveniently ignore the second half of my post? Also none of the players are civilians. We're members of the pilot's federation.
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>>153414069

Cant you just admit the game is poorly programmed when it comes to bounties?
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>>153414304
>when you shoot random people in the street and then you discover they illegally downloaded an MP3 song so your murder was justified lawful killing
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>>153414440
>>153414304
maybe I'm just naive, but, maybe he was making a joke, anons?
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>>153414459
>This horrible analogy

Please hang yourself
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>>153414304
>We're members of the pilot's federation
So
>i can kill people who police are chasing
Hmm...
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>>153414612
>Hmm...

What's to hmm faggot? You can legally kill people who police are trying to kill if you wait ten seconds and utter The Braben's prayer.
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>>153414304
I don't think Pilot's Federation counts as a law enforcement or military branch, they're more of a space AAA.
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>>153414069
>Civilians don't kill criminals, it's not your job.
I want to join up with the System Security. It should be an option when the system is on Lockdown or something, they bring in extra guns. Each ship scan and criminal kill gets you extra money. Bonus points if we are giving the ability to yell "I AM THE LAW" at lawbreakers.
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>>153414584
JUST LIKE MY ANCAP MEMES :^))))))
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>>153414841
Considering you can have military rank as part of the Pilot's Federation, the whole thing kind of breaks down.
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>>153414879
>I want to join up with the System Security.
Joining UEE military in Star Citizen would also be cool. Enforcing peace between PVPers and doing patrols and missions from your captain at HQ.
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>>153414841
Members of the pilot's federation are legally allowed to murder. But only if they click their heels, sing howdy doody and wait for ten seconds. Also, I'm an Admiral and a goddamn Duke in both navies. You bet I'm part of the goddamn military.
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>>153415023
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>>153415096
Fuck that, I'd rather join Advocacy. Space FBI sounds more interesting.
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>>153415096
I'd love to be a bounty hunter for the UEE. That'd be dope.
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I wish I could plot a course directly to the exploration goal, fucking hell stuck beyond eravate right now
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TayUX_GSIPM

Aliens confirmed.

How will frontier fuck this up?
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rip my anus apart with your massive, salivating cock

>>153415696
>>153415696
>>153415696
>>153415696
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>>153415619
Autopilot?? Why even play the game?

You can just sit there and say to yourself I am triple Elite and have been to Sag A, Beaglepoint and even Tring without having to even power up my PC, I am so carbon neutral its unbelievable!
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>>153415297
I hate that these make me laugh every time.
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>>153410341
Dont be embarrassed that korean grindfest is poorly coded.

We should both be embarrassed that we bought this pile of shit.

Fuck you ftroop.
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>>153390580
I thought they were in the Post-Revolutionary War "Fuck you we do what we want" phase.

I'm pretty damn sure there's at least one "fuck, we didn't plan on you settling there and now we've gotta defend your ass" equivalent to Texas in Star Citizen.
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>>153391184
I'll probably just hang out at Magnus.
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>>153383890
>32GB of ram

they can't be serious?

Fuck, I have an m-itx board. it's only got 2 ram slots.
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