/scg/edg/ Star Citizen Elite Dangerous General, aka /dsgg/ Dead

>>153288009
they can be useful if the pilot has them in mind, but one thing they could do is gyroscopics; keeping the turret centered on the world as much as possible rather than turning with the ship.

also, some of them are just plain shit. I dropped into the connie bottom gun last night and it was atrocious. it only gives you a little disk of space to see and shoot below the ship, rather than actually covering it's lower hemisphere.

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1st 4 space hillary

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>Waifu edition

First for Aisling

Braben needs to do some fan service and post a picture with feet

>>153288287
>if the pilot has them in mind

This is why the turrets will generally be useless if they're manned. Every ship I've been in with competent pilots has demonstrated that they need to be constantly twisting and turning to properly fight. It usually left me staring off into the vacuum of space or just out of reach for the person we were fighting.

Only time I can see it working is if the larger ships lose all their maneuverability but gain massive armor and turrets to make up for it.

>>153288009
Apart from stabilization they really need to give players some incentive to sit in a turret for potentially hours apart from a pair of shitty S1 or S2 guns. Upgrade to quad guns, add countermeasure launchers or ECM gear to turrets etc.. There are more than enough possibilities, but CR seems quite set on his WW2 in spess.

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>>153288563
Turrets should just be relegated to large, slow ships, it seems like the only time they'd actually be useful.

>>153288438
I agree, we should space Hillary.

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no one got dubs so reposting

dubs tells me what ship to fly
nothing more than 169 million credits

>>153288563
what needs to happen is for pilots to have their ship in mind and change their playstyle. The retaliator is covered in turrets, correct? therefore it should focus on being as far from targets as possible and staying steady to allow as many guns to maintain focus as they can. where it's pointed is not particularly important until something needs to be torpedoed. so it should be max speed and not twisting or turning much ideally.
the connie which actually has pilot guns and missiles would be somewhere between this and the typical dogfighting duck n weave.

I think the current nerf of the connie's turning capability might be an attempt to shuffle people towards a more successful playstyle than trying to be a giant hornet.

some friends playing the other night said they had a blast fighting off multiple fighters with their connie turrets around grimhex, and they not only survived to escape but actually killed at least one.

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nth for RNG

>Be me
>Try open for the first time for shits n giggles
>Rolling in my modded Corvette
>Interdicted by some FAS that opens fire immediately
>Oho.. well combat time...
>A few pot shots and his shields go down, he fails at ramming and ends up at 70% hull
>Que rapidly receding FAS into the distance followed by high wake

Can anyone else figure out what this guy thought? Wasn't even carrying cargo (not that he checked.) I'm just trying to understand his decision making process at this point.

>>153288976
can't really blame people for calling this a cult 2bh

>>153289019
Where can I view prices?

>>153287929
>aka /dsgg/
dark souls general general

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>>153288475
My waifu can beat up your waifu.

fuck, I feel so dirty

>>153288475
feet are for walking

>>153289303
>what is google

>>153289045
>Turning capability

Does it have the ability to roll quickly? That's also an issue. For example, my experience manning a turret in a cutlass was terrible.

>>153289019
There are no dubs on /vg/ you dingus.

>>153289303
http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Ships

>>153289141
ive never actually won that thing

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>>153289974
The house always wins.

78mil

Enough for a decent python?

>>153290152
I have only won on shit that was unintentional. Got thermal cascade missiles and phasing sequence pulse when just trying to do recipes to unlock the next tier

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Best ship

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>>153290461
What do you want to do with it?

>>153289187
Literally the only interaction players can have with each other in Open is killing.

>>153290461
nowhere near

try 200

>>153290697

grind rank until I can get clipper

Probably do hauling missions out in the boonies for now. It doesn't need to be very buff except for the occasional npc

>>153290591
>Hoping I win a Cutlass so I can CCU it to freelancer for 10 bucks

Man, I didn't like the Freelancer at first but something about it has won me over.

>>153290738
Yeah true, I just thought that, based on his ship, he would have picked an objectively easier target.

>>153290697
>they actually built all this out
>you just can't get up and explore it
that looks like the most frustrating fucking thing imaginable. it actually looks like a pretty nice cockpit that would be really cool to hang out in. but you can only see it in your peripheral vision.

>>153288563
Not entirely true. I've played as a rear gunner for a Freelancer and positioning is not really an issue since I'm not very restricted in where I can shoot, which is everywhere but something directly below or below and in front of the ship, in which case the pilot needs to readjust so he can shoot anyway.

>>153290862
Not enough if the 47m includes the ship plus rebuy. Empire rank grinding can be done in a Hauler, really. You'd probably have to run away/combat log more often than you'd like with that kind of Python.

I got 300 bucks to spend
I'm loving elite dangerous, just got it, but I got no joystick or anything, what one should I get?

>>153290738

I met a dad in a python once and he tried RPing with me, was pretty cool, dude sounded like a 35 year old british lumberjack, no homo

>>153291000
I mentioned in another comment but I was top gunner for a cutlass and it was terrible. Also top gunner for a connie, also terrible. Having to rely on the pilot to be conscious of the turrets at all times is just bad design for a defensive mechanism.

>>153291191
>300

Save 50-100 more and wait for a warthog to go on sale if you absolute need HOTAS

>>153290738
>>153290930

Incorrect.

>Mining together boosts profits
>Undermining in a full group nets you four times the merits
>Conflict Zone fighting in a group makes shit loads of cash.

The only part of group play that's bad is bounty hunting.

What's the actual weapon hardpoints for an Aurora LN? It used to be 1-1-3-3, then it became 1-1-2-2, but the site now lists 2-2-2-2?

>>153290591
>>153290875
it's literally a space pickup truck with guns

what's not to like

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>cut a high FPS webm to show off the improved framerate during private-server hijinks
>watched the vid after and it was jerky and shit
>assumed it just didn't save right
>watched it again today and it's fine
>my computer just failed to play it well at the time because it was struggling with SC in the background

>>153291158
>47m
78m. Sothis has fried my brain.

>>153291158
>You'd probably have to run away/combat log more often than you'd like with that kind of Python.

Yeah thats what I thought. its 78 mil actually.

I was thinking 6A thrusters and a decent drive, guns, maybe a shield and leave the rest stock for now. Literally 2 days away from baron and now with all that dosh I'm itching for a new ship

>>153291386
Happens to me with Hearthstone

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>>153291386
I was disappointed when I went up that dead-end hallway too.

>>153291386
>my computer just failed to play it well at the time because it was struggling with SC in the background

Are you using a toaster?

>>153291386
I wish stopping and starting wasn't so ass in this
Looks like a fucking peacock

>>153291259
Large ships like the Connie aren't meant to be maneuvered against small targets. The idea of having manned turrets in different parts of the ship is that wherever the fighters are, you can always pick at them even without using the main cannons. The only thing CIG needed to do better was to place the turrets better so there aren't any major blindspots and the turrets' view overlapped as much as possible for concentrated fire..

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>>153291441
>maybe a shield
Naw, not after the Engineers update. Shields are a must just to absorb damage while you make a getaway. Getting pounded while charging FSD is absolutely nasty these days, what with all the new weaponry the NPCs are sporting.

I'd gather money for a bit before buying. It also feels a lot better to get into a decently-rated new ship from an older ship.

Remember space Chinadude for a discount on that Python hull, too.

>>153292218
>Aren't meant to be

Just because they aren't meant to be didn't stop them.

>>153288776
this

there is no use for manned turrets in ships like SH, Gladi, cutlass or Freelancer.

>>153292260

yeah I'll upgrade my Asp instead and grind dat rank before I buy the clipper

>>153292218
I'm still hoping they give the Constellation the ability to swap out the deathtrap fighter with a manned turret. That fighter slot is in the exact perfect spot for a turret to protect the ship's ass.

>>153292034
kek

I think the old stop/start thing Illfonic had so much trouble with will probably be in 2.6, so FPS will feel a lot smoother.

>>153291970
yes

>>153291259
oh fuck There's a BRRRT plane replica?
God damn I think I'll just hold out till next paycheck and get that shit

>>153291269
Get out of here with your logic and reason, Elite is literally single player.

>>153292478
I'd say they're useful on the freelancer since it's nice to be able to give a response to anyone trying to attack you from behind as you're hauling cargo or something. Whether you're going to try to fight or flight, having a counter to that massive blindspot is invaluable -especially when the ship itself isn't very maneuverable. It's pretty secondary on the cutlass and entirely a selling gimmick on the SH.

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>>153292829
>Some dude in my town had this listed for 100 bucks on ebay

I'm still mad

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>all this reasonable debate about Connie turrets ITT

Meanwhile, on RSI forums:
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/342113/connie-2-5-worthless-useless-defenseless-trash
>supposed to be the Millennium Falcon
>Superiority platform
>they should never inflict such a heavy handed nerf on an iconic ship
>Chris is gonna vomit

>>153292478

Remote control turrets would give the copilots of these ships something to actually do.

>>153293384
The RSI forums are a cesspool. I only visit them to read dev posts.

>>153288475
is there a reason empire people have blue hair?

how come you can't rent a freelancer? Can you fly one in AC?

>>153294028
Yes. I don't know why they don't let you...maybe renting is only for specialized combat/racing ships? But then again the Aurora, 300i etc. are also available and they're not specialized at all.

>>153291269
So trade bonus does work now? Is that the mining together?

I know one guy can fly cover for the miner....but i dont know how else group mining would work

>>153288475

>do the CG
>Aisling Duval ships errywhere

Absolutely disgusting.

>>153293870
decadence

Are there going to be planets that have ACTUAL INDOOR LIGHTS in the finished Star Citizen? The preview video of that one town was worrying.

>>153294715
what town?

the procedural tech is unfinished

arccorp and levski have lots of lights

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>>153293384
>Superiority platform
they haven't changed I see

>>153295065

They still don't understand that "space superiority" is a role and not a measure of excellence.

>>153295065
jesus christ that picrelated post, that cringe

FUGG :D:D:DXDXD

you can say he has atleast 2 connies

Rate ED idea

those who get to king or max fed rank should be able to stake out a claim on a system beyond the bubble for their respective faction - all but independent plus shitloads of stuff to do to keep the place running not die of famine, other players messing with your shit

that could easily be RNG based like fdev likes it and give you shit to do

>>153293860
Seems both forums are pretty bad.

>>153295065
>it is MEANT to excel at whatever
>,,,

No seriously what the fuck is
",,,"
supposed to be?

I keep seeing it and I don't know why
It doesn't matter how hard I try, I just can't understand it, it's so unreal that someone would think that's acceptable.

>>153295387
I'm half considering finding that thread and telling him what air superiority actually means.

>>153295065
Desu I agree with this. Let the Connie be a platform that can be modified to different roles. The only real issue is the only other ship we have in the connie size area (between freelancer and Caterpillar) is the retaliator and it's not as modular desu


Jack of all trades master of tone, it can't do multible roles at once when it's been modified to a role

What do I swap my Phoenix for in the sale

Already have a Carrack

>>153295815
But that's not what he's saying. He's saying the Constellation should win in combat against certain ships, even en masse, regardless of pilot ability... Which is horseshit.

He's also saying it should be the best exploration ship when modified, and the best cargo ship when modified, and the best combat ship when modified. That's absolutely counter to the entire idea of Star Citizen.

>>153294715
>>153294962
Microtech too

>>153295815
desu baka senpai

Just got ED and while it's taken me a little bit of time to get used to things I think I'd enjoy it, especially when I get a ship I actually like.

Any tips for not being so goddamn inaccurate in the highspeed mode? If I keep my engines slower I take forever to get anywhere. I mean like each second of the ETA counter taking about fifteen to tick down.

Also the docking has been a bit of a tit on me, lost me a bonus that would have tripled my pay for a job since apparently I can only land facing one direction.

>>153295815
>master of tone

I don't think spaceships have muscles or vocal cords...

>>153294715
that 'town' was an abandoned mine full of outlaws. it's dark on purpose. look at some Microtech or Terra concepts if it's too dark for yet, hell look at the revel & york hangar now

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If the avenger commercial isnt some sort of blues brothers parody Ill be very disappointed.

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>>153295387
People like these are the reason P2W shovelware is successful

>>153297023
Put your throttle at the very bottom of the blue indicator, but still inside it. You'll almost never miss.

>>153297023
>Inaccurate

You point at the target you want in supercruise, set acceleration to max. Find the 75% acceleration keybind. Assign that. When you get 7 seconds away you press that keybind.

>>153297023
Set your 1-4 keys to be 25% throttle increments. When you hit 6-7 seconds eta drop to 75% throttle.

>>153295065

This guy must be shitting himself now or he traded off his win ship already.

>>153296405
The flying meth lab/hospital

>>153289187

He just wants to send you to the insurance screen.

He's a shitter though. FAS is for ramming smaller ships, not vettes. You're supposed to dance around the bigger ships but he clearly fails at that.

>>153295065
I cant wait for the asspain to reverberate throughout the universe when some connie fag rolls up on an unmapped jump point just to get a warning saying his ship exceeds the estimated capacity of the point and is forced to watch as a freelancer and 315p roll up and jump right in.

>>153293384
Even though I hate the connie, I want it to fly better. If for no other reason than if the connie flies that badly, then the ship I'd actually want like the catapillar, carrack or merchantman would be even worse.

I really don't want the cutlass and freelancer to be largest ships I can actually tolerate flying in this game.

>>153297923
>Fly better

What do you mean by fly better?

>>153297923
I have a loaner connie, flew it for the first time last night

it's just fine, and flies exactly how I'd expect a ship of it's size to move, even after this 'nerf'. these shits are crying over absolutely nothing, the flight model just makes sense now, and they're upset they can no longer 360 missilescope gladii in their RV camper van.
I say this as someone who's only ship is a Caterpillar, and expecting it to be much slower; the Constellation is fine.

>>153297670

The painwave will be phenomenal when they get dunked by a heavy fighter that fit specifically for melting ships in the Connie size area.

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100th for pretty lights

>>153298563
that's cool and all but

>flickering displays and loading screens in 1000 years in the future

really dumb especially with mobiglass and the landing zone terminals

>>153298351
Not be a sluggish piece of shit that feels like it's a ship twice it's size

what are the AC power rankings for hornet, sabre, vanguard? is the gap big?

>>153298443

I don't play, how does it fly? By the model design with those swinging thrusters figure it picks up great forward speed and some yaw but terrible roll and x/y strafing.

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>>153299029
Sabre is absolutely retarded right now.
It's more tanky and has better armament than the Hornet while being faster (but admittedly a little less maneuverable) than the Avenger.

>>153298865
Anon, the place is half run down, decrepit and filled with trash. Not to mention maybe the screen was re-purposed judging by the missing letters used to spell Grim Hex.

>>153288475
Why aren't there Aisling and Arissa bobbleheads? Does Braben hate money?

>>153298510
right now a sabre or SH could easily solo a connie?

>we have to give a guy 6 million tons of weed for the next clue

I'm a little concerned.

>>153299347
Aisling onahole when?

>>153297923
since 2.5 came out I'm finding the cutlass is a lot of fun, the constellation is pure fucking suffering to fly as it handles like a starfarer now.

kind of a shame as I traded my cutlass in on a buccaneer and I have a feeling I just traded a decent ship on a fighter that's going to be nerfed before it even comes out

>>153299416

>you'll never bust a zero G nut on an Aisling bobblehead

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>tfw just found out Gene Wilder died

Why is 2016 so awful?

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>For what could have been.

>>153299236
Now that looks like something I should slap on my Avenger.

>>153299770

So many bits and pieces.
Did they scrap it all?

>>153299416

>dude weed lmao

I wonder what happens if someone UAbombs the shit out of the target station or initiates system lockdown. Thargoids never come?

>>153299770
>that turret animation
>those rear dorsal flaps
>integrated thruster ports

we got burned with the version in game currently

>>153300309

Only one way to find out.

>>153287929
anybody know a good system to grind out alliance bounties for Todd "the blaster" Mcuck?

>>153299109
It's slow as shit in all ways. It's a whole 5m/s faster than the giant space oil tanker that's twice it's size.

>>153299387
An aurora LN could solo a connie.

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>120 fps in empty hangar
>80 fps with two ships inside

will 3.0 be like this in the PU?

1440p btw

>>153300309

FDev would probably just reverse it or Mobius already has MAs lined up just in case since it's happened before.

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>>153299649
nigga was bobblin so hard he couldn't even get a shot off

>>153291297
it's 1,1,2,2 in-game right now

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THE WHEEL IN THE SKY KEEPS ON TURNIN

>>153301159
3.0 will resurrect Jesus

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Why couldn't this have been the rememer...

>>153299550
I half expect the cutlass remake to be worse than the current model... either in flight model or less firepower. They seem to be dumping/nerfing the early multirole ships and trying to divide the game up between combat only ships and low offense ultra-specialized profession ships.

>>153301331
t-they'll fix it someday right

No really have they finished whatever their design overhaul of hardpoints is yet?

>>153301487

Jesus already resurrected.

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>>153301159
>tfw 1440p with G-sync at 144hz

Even though I cap it at 60 it feels so damn good and 2.5 is actually playable for me now.

Can't wait for proper optimization.

>>153300116
Well turns out some of it just wasn't possible due to lack of internal space. Like the retractable turret and internal missile racks. The rest was that they just wanted to get it out the door as fast as possible so they effective just built the ship our of bits of the retaliator and sabre. Also one of the fuckers who made the Redeemer was involved with the mess.

>>153302112
It looks like the Hoplite has a different interior, so here's to hoping along with that ship comes a revamp so it doesn't just look like they slapped Retaliator bits in there with no regard for how it looked or worked.

>>153301651
Redeemer is already mothballed and taken out of development, im pretty sure its as dead as its going to get.

Is trading really profitable? It feels like bounty hunting was way productive.

>>153301159
>slideshow my way out of Olisar
>manage to jump to Yela
>buttery smooth the entire cruise
>framerate literally just stops as soon as I get close enough to GH to start seeing some tethers
>try to zero the throttle but can't tell if it's registering
>finally starts moving again, I can see fragments of my ship floating around, then fade to black
>I was like 30,000km away when it locked up
3.0 is going to make this game real and not just a concept for a lot of people. still wonder what the secret is that so many streamers are able to play apparently unhindered.

>>153299709
>David Bowie, Alan Rickman, Gene Wilder.

Didn't Christopher Lee die this year? On top of all of that my gf cheated on me. Fuck 2016.

>>153302358
way more*

>>153302263
Hard to say, that one concept image of the hoplite looks nothing like the current vanguard aft. But at the same time, I doubt they would have done more to the ship besides just slap a resized version of the idris' life pod in place of the normal vg lifeboat.

>>153301958
wow fuck you I'm still reading

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>>153298563
ye boi

>>153302676
>looks nothing like the current vanguard aft.
It's just a wider ramp. The rest is the same.

>>153301704
Not a Cutlassfag but I don't like that idea very much. From a game design perspective, it's better to have the everyman options be slightly above average if anything, because in every game it's always better to specialize.

If you play a roleplaying game, the dude with stats of 4-1-1 is going to be better off than his friends with 2-2-2 arrays, and the challenges of the game have to take the upper bound into account so the 2-2-2 guys wind up not being able to succeed at anything in practice. They get along better when they are 3-2-2 and 2-3-2, and it's not like 4-1-1 guy isn't still going to shine at his thing.

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>>153302318
It was initially one of the first ships that got my attention into SC as was the vanguard... What a shame.

>>153299109
roll isn't terrible, but it's noticable in how slow it is to stop rolling; when you let go it will keep rolling for a second before it can correct.

>>153302578
2015.

So far this year:

>David Bowie
>Prince
>Alan Rickman
>Ronnie Corbett
>Garry Shandling
>Anton Yelchin
>Victoria Wood
>Kenny Baker
>Muhammad Ali
>Caroline Aherne
>Terry Wogan
>Doris Roberts
>Gene Wilder

>>153302410
>Streamers

Could be just the stream. I've recorded 30 FPS video of the game before while I was running at about 22 FPS. Video turned out relatively smooth. I can't explain it.

>>153297167

Is the Avenger getting a commercial?

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>>153302676
It's possible that it's requirement in SQ42 is causing an early rework to happen. Maybe we'll find out in the next monthly report.

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>>153302578
>>153302978
Forgot Jerry Doyle.

>>153303000

Isn't it a really old retired craft? The only fitting ad would be some kind of public announcement from the navy/police on how they're selling out old gear along with the Avenger and other dated tech.

>>153302906
The whole thing was a nightmare model, they scapped it and tore the model apart for stock parts.

>>153302906
They've already sold the ship, it's just not going to be in SQ42. It will be reworked before the PU release (just don't expect it soon).

>>153303219
Bruh. Used ship dealership ad.

https://youtu.be/4sZuN0xXWLc

I want it.

>>153302981
basically shitty interlacing is why it looks smooth. You're taking something that is 15-25fps, then doubling up on half the frames giving you a video that is perceived to be smoother. You can do this with 24fps movies and 8-12 fps anime as well in order to get a "smoother" viewing experience.

>>153297167
Why would defunct derelict NPC ships from yesteryears get a commercial? That's like giving the Talons from Privateer a commercial, who fucking cares? They're outdated junkships because you need those in the game to fill with NPCs and make your players feel like skilled heroes for destroying at better than 50% odds.

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>>153303000
If they ever get back to doing commercials, the next one will supposedly to be a History Channel style doc about the Retaliator. Not sure what to expect after that.

>>153303354

>Mavis! Discount Ships! The UEE's favorite discount yard!

Grand idea.

>>153302578
I just wanna follow up and make sure you threw that whore out anon

>>153303475
Maybe it's like an old commercial? Like some sort of retro commercial.

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>>153303557
They should get Mike Rowe in for some VA in the commercials.

>>153303862
I havn't seen her since February.

>>153303994
>They're hiring even more celebrities? Fucking incompetent budget spending!

What is the Ford of SC?

>>153303475

On the Avenger hate topic,
just cause it's old shouldn't mean its junk really. Some machines are durable and can get the job done just as well as the "new stuff", it could just some some top brass who wants to look like he's working in his office will change things up just cause he can. This stuff happens today with nonsense like digital fatigue navy uniforms and I don't see it stopping in the space future.
And no I'm not an Avenger posting.

>>153303557
They should do an Attenborough doco about the aliens.

>>153304189
>What is the Ford of SC?
Aegis or Anvil maybe...?

Has anyone tried to reduce a ship's emissions with mods to reach a point where they're effectively in silent running without having to stop venting heat? It seems there are at least a few mods that decrease the heat generation of components and power draw of components to the point that one could smuggle without having to go into silent running or power down everything in the ship.

>>153304189
>>153304397
MISC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO7RxsZpcKc

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>>153303475
DELETE THIS

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I just got the 325a. Did I fuck up?

>>153303475
>not flying sleeper ships
>rusty and banged up on the outside
>brand new kit under the hood

>tfw you never tie Aisling Duval to a ship's seat with just enough fuel to carry her a few lightyears from a star then put the throttle to full and bail out

>>153304889
Too bad it just looks like some new penguin that only the lore tells us is old, I could really get behind a rustbucket design.

holy shit in elite dangerous if you decide to sell stuff mounted on your ship, it isn’t automatically RPG-markdowned, like!!!!!!! I just sold a couple of nice-enough but kinda heavy utility mounts off my boat for a NET PROFIT somewhere that didn’t have any such things in stock oh my GOD

THANK YOU……………

#AT LAST....................

>>153304716
Upgrade it to a 350r later or trade it back in for a 315p in my opinion

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>>153304716
Maybe rework will make it awesome.

>>153303219
>>153303000
>>153297167
>>153303475
Weren't the Avengers basically Big Brother's enforcers during the old Imperial regime?
bear with me here, but what about a Fallout-50's style ad about Human values and the Imperial way, just dripping with Messer era propaganda and cold war style jingoism and xenophobia.

>>153304716
Nah it's a hella solid ship right now in 2.5, the lack of proper cargo storage will be killer for it in 3.0 though.

>>153305094
If you really want to do that, give her a stripped down surplus fighter from an anarchy system, eject it mid-flight, then jump away. That'd work better, since you can even leave it fully fueled. What's she gonna do, activate an Imperial Fighter's FSD?

>>153299770
The Vanguard was the ship I had kept an eye on. Shame it got downgraded.

Chris Roberts will get my money eventually, just not today.

>>153304587
Oh yeah that's definitely Ford material right there.

So, I was playing Elite: Dangerous - Horizons in the past few days, and I found a planet, with a mountain in a crater. I figured I’d be “Crazy”, and land on the top of the Mountain, so I did.

I was there, landed a few minutes, dozens of lightyears from anywhere, and this twinkly piano piece began to play. Looking out, over the majesty of stars, sitting so Small and alone, I admit that I teared up a little. I did. I was overcome by it all.

It’s incredible that the life’s work of a Cambridge scholar, to create a believable simulation of our galaxy, has all but come true. And it’s only going to get more real. Imagine the next generation of Quantum computing, a Thousand times faster than modern Machines. Though most likely, some of that will be swallowed up by larger displays with Higher resolutions.

Still, The Stars My Destination.

>>153305376

>325c cargo and wing doors replaced with internal missile assembly.
Yes?

>300 gets a longer neck with an apartment module so as not to be upstaged but a freaking Mustang Beta.
Yes?

>>153305448
>there is STILL no easily-programmed cargo-based CTF mode, requiring only text notifications and a marker icon to fly to, which would give utility and non-Sabre/Hornet ships a role in the quick sim battles

>tfw only started playing ED 4 days ago
>thanks to that CG I have an Anaconda
>love seeing everyone so upset about it

I don't even fly it lol

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Where can I go now that CEOS has been UA bombed? I want a Federal Corvette asap.
>>153299709
Sorry Anon.

>>153305292
It used to be 10% markdown, but they got rid of that.

I don't think you can sell for a profit though. Module prices should be the same across the galaxy (maybe if you buy somewhere with a discount it works),

>>153305292
>Net profit

Well that's going to have to be removed

>>153305657
this shitty pasta reminds me, what's with the spoopy 'you're gonna fuckin die' music that starts playing when you boot up a constellation now? going from Olisar's pokemon starter town theme to the Aliens ambient music right outside is really jarring.

>>153305890

Are dads really upset about the rewards for that one?

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>>153305890
I was at 40M before the CG. This is the most I've ever had.. The top 50% reward was so nice.

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>>153304587
>You now remembered when retards cried about balance because the freelancer killed 2 cutlasses in a commercial

Probably the same fucking losers who say "Non-consensual pvp is griefing save me CIG."

>>153305763
>what is capture the core
having to actually get out and grab it would be a fun wrinkle though

does anyone want to gift me a ccu to go from gladius to buccaneer? ill send you pics of my nipples

>>153305890

But for sure I'll not be paying for season 3 if they implement this. And there are many other people saying the same on the officals. The devs are disrepecting the lifetime pass holdres, they are disrepecting the time people have put into the game, they are disrespecting the time people have spent getting decent ranges on their fighting ships. And if they go through with this I'm sure they'll pay a financial and reputational price for that.

Sure they may attract more casuals in the short term. But casuals don't keep buying £30 expansions every year, and paint jobs, and bobble heads. Casuals will be picking it up dirt cheap on sales, playing a bit then moving on. For a game with such a long term development fan annoying what looks like 70-75% of the player base is really not a smart move!

who is jelly of my Mustang Beta?

>>153287929
Are boners in space extreme? No gravity weighing down on them

>>153306303
what value are your hairy nipples

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>>153306303
ask leddit they fall for it every time
>>153306175
Yes.
>>153306426
Did you quote the wrong person?
>>153306503
tfw downgraded from aurora to mustang alpha

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>>153306175
Incredibly. The amount of butthurt from the last few days has been astounding. First that one thing being open only, now the CG.

>>153306554

well I like to imagine just about the cost of a ccu from gladius to buccaneer,

but it's up to the economy to decide really

>>153306582
I hope the devs ignore the forumdads and continue releasing nice things like the upcoming ship transfers and module storage. Hopefully more high paying CGs too.

>>153306612
eh, maybe if you were a qt trap but even then i'd rather see more than nipples 2bqh.

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>>153306708
Actually I should have used this image

>>153306572
He's quoting a butthurt forumdad upset about ship transfer.

>>153306208
Damn. I figured without a big trade ship I wouldn't be able to rank very highly so I just kept doing Sothis runs. Still I'm up to 50M now. Just a few more days and I might pick up a Fer de Lance.

>>153306527
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but apparently boners need gravity.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/natashaumer/sex-in-space
>Getting a boner in microgravity is hard. Gravity helps our blood flow to the lower parts of our body, so in space, blood rises to your head and chest, Anderson University physicist and astronomer John Millis, Ph.D., told BuzzFeed over email. You can thank gravity for that stiffy

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>>153306175
They are actually furious, I wish I was kidding.

Also that dumb CMDR Sticks said he was "looking into it" so obviously the Dads started gloating about "haha it's just a wrong value :) you won't get that money"


>What about people like myself who haven't logged in for a while and had no idea anything was happening at all?

>That's not right. Has to be a glitch.

>Or atleast i hope it is; its not good game design to have players go from a type 6 straight to an anaconda.

>EDIT: Downvotes are expected especially from the newer CMDRs, But it doesnt change the fact that its gamebreaking when you make other activities meaningless.

>Just like when you'd get downvoted for speaking against the infinite ammo glitch we had not long ago. Short term its fun, but when you wake up and see every type 6 go straight to an anaconda without progressing through the ships like the rest of us, is not really good game design. This is coming from an imperial pilot who wants this goal to triumph.

>>153302978
You forgot Steven Hill

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>>153306708

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>>153306708
Michael at least appears to give zero fucks what they think.

>>153306773
what is SDC

>Cool, and some people fly every evening for 3 weeks and they get less. If people get to keep this money and there wont be another opportunity like that, its just sick and unfair. Go on people who earned 300 millions for 2 hours of flying, downvote me as much as you want.

>Spent years on Elite. Traded, bounty hunted, and explored to amass credits. One trading mission in Morai made it all seem like wasted time.

>Yeah, I know I'll get downvoted to hell for this, but I think this CG was bullshit. Why even have credits in the game anymore?

>>153307134
Player group

>>153307132
As someone who's refrained from buying ED so far, He gives me a bit of confidence. I might check back in a few months to see what they release.

I really hate how many of the larger ships (freelancer, starfarer, connie, etc) all have forward facing guns for the pilot to use.

It just seems weird that anyone would ever consider trying to chase a target for a blast in something like this. We've never seen a sci-fi representation of larger ships with forward facing guns... they ALWAYS just have side turrets and missiles.

>>153306872
>rises
>when there is no up
>>>buzzfeed

>>153307132
What the forumdads fail to realize is that Frontier knows that they're going to pony up for 3.0 and more skins and bobbles regardless of what they do to the game because it's Elite. Sure they can rant and cry and stop playing for a week but they'll be back. The dads always come back.

>>153306985
What is this in response to? Someone asked for one of them to be fired on the forums due to ship transfer or the CG? I do the same about Sandro here but I'm not stupid enough to say that there

>>153305890
spoonfeed me anons, which CG are they mad about and how much money are we talking about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeDKTFNs3HI

Get the word out boys!
- CMDR Sundae

>>153306262
No I mean something that actually makes use of your cargo space, and the differences between cargo spaces.

Say your shitty non-combat ship can hold 1,000 units of junk in the trunk. You fly through the enemy checkpoint, surrounded by asteroids or whatever, and your ship now has 1,000 enemy flags in the trunk. You take that back to your base and you get a bunch of points. Someone in a way better fighting ship, one that would kick your ship's ass if you had no escort of your own, could fly through and only pick up 50 flags, which it could zip back to base and pick up a few points for too. That would be fun, give more ships more uses before the PU arrives, and would help test relative transport efficiency of ships a bit too.

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>>153306786
I made around 136M or more for a couple hours of my time.
>>153306786
Yeah I ignored it until yesterday.. Oh well.
>>153306915
I'd argue that getting past the slowest hump in the game is best for newer players. Aka the slow start to Elite.
>>153306985
wew
>>153307132
I-Is it finally over? Are we winning the war against forumdads? I wonder how sick they are of all the whining from forumdads.
>>153307529
kek

>>153307365
I don't. Large ships in most Sci-Fi have some variant of chaser weapons for when they're hauling ass behind something trying to run. Besides, it's fun when a ship that's not paying attention strays in front of a Starfarer and turns into a cloud of debris instantly. It forces you to pay more attention to where the fuck you're flying. Besides, when they took away pilot weapons we got the Retaliator, and just look at the state that's in.

>>153307529
I was in top 25% and made 223 Million in an Asp X

This upset the dad who sells fish over 200LYs away for 10 months to buy a condo, not fitting with how THEIR game should be played.

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>>153307389
The body is adapted for an environment with gravity so it pushes blood harder towards the head than it does towards the legs
Inverse goes for returning blood to the heart
So blood pools in the upper body

>>153306109
It means that you're gonna fuckin die. Pretty obvious.

>>153306915
That's cute, that dad actually thinks gameplay between small and big ships is significantly different.

I didn't do the CG, I'm doing Sothis runs. But having a good amount of money just makes me feel like I can fuck around and try things rather than trying to maximise money/hr.

>>153307363
That whole thread is dads complaining and Michael saying "calm the fuck down, the universe won't implode just cause you can move ships around".

>>153307365
>they ALWAYS just have side turrets
That would be the Retaliator. It is wildly considered the most worthless ship in SC so far.

i UA bombed sothis btw :)

it was me and my buddy jared leto

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Oh shit boys.

Spend that money quickly.

>>153307943
>>153307741

Ouch, what's wrong with the Tali? Is the shitty gunner accuracy really that bad?

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>>153307687
>>153307750
holy fuck and i'm still over here

and these people have kids?

>>153307365
Literally the most iconic ship of that size, the millennium falcon, has forward facing guns.

>>153308106

it's actually people complaining they didn't make enough, saying they were in a certain bracket but were then moved.

>>153288976
Is that Slim Diesel?
(Randy Vasquez Is his actual name iirc)

>>153308195
No rollback? Phew.

>>153308170
Rip anon. If only you were here for an hour or two, you'd have made 136M.
>>153308298
You can say that again. I was worried.

>>153288976
>Directed By Hideo Kojima

>>153306915

>you wont get that money

lel. I was only top 50% and got like 130mil.
I wouldnt be surprised if the Empire wanted to pay that much since they want to show up the Feds shitty CGs.

Theory, if they did rollback the CG rewards.

How would the dads react?
Gloating?

>>153308165
Since turrets really suck to use, the lack of forward facing, pilot-slaved weapons turns the ship into a sitting duck in almost all situations. The interior, in addition, is so poorly designed that if you want to get to an escape pod from one of the turrets when the ship's going up, the answer is "you don't." It's just a horrendous mess in every capacity you can think of.

>>153307790
no m8, it happens when you start a constellation, on the pad, or wherever you may be. it makes no sense and it's not combat music

>>153288976
>Space Pirates and Zombies will crossover with SC

>>153308537
Yes.

>>153308498
Same. I figured it was due to the Empire being rich.
>>153308537
Yeah..

>>153308610

Will they add space horrors in SC? Would be neat to fight off ohgodwhat xenos in derelict craft/stations.
Or from your own craft after hearing a random thunk against your hull.

>>153307658
Send a mail to Chris about it, that's actually a good idea.

>>153307687
Now this is what I call a community goal

>>153309098
There should be a chance that any derelicts you find will have some xenomorph-tier alium hiding in that will be more than 90% of players can even handle.

>>153307787
Science will find a way.

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Neat, this derelict Imp Eagle was missing a wing.

>>153306915
>If you work through all the ships in a matter of weeks you miss an awful lot of gameplay
What gameplay? Doing the exact same thing with a different cockpit in front of you does not constitute a qualitative change in gameplay.

>>153309098

no john

you are the space horrors

>>153309363
I'd rather they be rogue robots/drones. With a "this is why AI is illegal" motif.

>>153309381
Too bad that damage isn't actually modelled in game.

Imagine a FDL cleaving parts off of ships with a class 4 beam laser.

>>153309305
11,974 Contributors and people say Elite is dead.
>>153309629
please Fdev

>>153308537

Imagine how low the player numbers would drop if they did that.
People would never use a CG again.

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>>153309629
I still liked exploring the thing. Still pretty big for a "fighter", the thing has a big room just past the door that looks like bunks for 2-3 people.

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>not having a suit that matches your ship
Are you even trying, honestly?

>>153309773
This. Only dads and people who wanted to progress the story would do it. Mind you, that's why I did it too but I also wanted that nice payout. Even at the lower tiers it was nice.

>>153309849
The Avenger is so embarrassingly bad, it makes me lol every time I see it

>>153309297
Where? Also he probably won't read it, I never use the forums or anything.

>>153309297
They actually had something like this planned, but with the way the PU is coming along we probably won't ever see it, as we will get actual trading first

>>153309997
>Avenger
>bad
The only bad thing about it is the Suckerpunches, which you should replace with Tarantulas and then it's a really nice dogfighting ship

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>>153309098
there was a case of "space madness" where a bunch of space cows in a space ship killed everybody

>>153307132
Michael is pretty based.

What the dads don't realize is that even Braben wants basic quality of life features, and the game just happens to be developmentally in a place where they can start focusing on adding them. Braben never intended for the game to be a carbon copy of the original, he wants it to evolve past what its predecessors could do. This is all part of the 10 year plan the dads worship, but like petulant children they shove their fingers in their ears the instant Braben threatens THEIR vision of the game.

It's time people call out the dads on their hypocrisy.

>>153310162
I was more referring to the hideous design. In terms of function its just mediocre, not awful.

>>153310309

Actual livestock cows? How did they escape wherever they were contained to kill a ships crew, or did you mean a station?

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>>153310312

>>153309849
Anyone else look at that and wish they add a 50's inspired fishbowl helmet and silver spandex space suit?

>>153310162
I think he just means the design. It is a little silly with its short-looking exaggerated shape. Looks almost cartoony, like something you'd see in Advance Wars or Battalion Wars.

>>153310516
>hideous design
Get the fuck out senpai, Spess Penguin is the coolest ship there is.

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>>153310675
This desu

>>153309381
>Still glowing after it's been there for who knows how long.

>>153309629
All of my money but ED ships just aren't designed to have breakable parts like SC ships.

>>153310675

The avenger has the saddest history ever.

It was originally concept billed as "A Space A-10! Wow look at the big front gun if you like A-10s you're gonna love the Avenger!"

Then the Vanguard came out and everyone goes "Oh... it's like... it's more the A-10 than the Avenger. The Avenger is actually kinda shit I guess."

Then it got the interior revamp which made it fucking impossible to move around with any amount of quickness and it just became annoying as hell to use.

I won't even bother stealing an Avenger in Crusader because of how shitty it is to get in and out and just overall use.

>>153310309
>ywn fight a biomechanical virus that will fuse your flesh with your ship and turn your ship into a ship-size zombie
>ywn cut them loose
>tfw no homeworld cataclysm
>tfw no homeworld space sim

>>153310657

If they flatten the whole ships curvy shape down and straighten the wings to a flat level would more of you like it's design better? Though at that point it would just be a fancy current gen fighter plane imo.

>>153310627
I'm sure it will happen

So, I thought i'd give a go at Elite this week. Have around 30/40 hours clocked into it.
The reason I wanted to try it is because everybody was so excited the game cathered to different playstyles. So heres my expierence.

>Bounty Hunter
Flying towards recourse extraction sites and follow whoever whom is shooting whoem.

>Trader
Buy low, sell high. This one allright as at least it requires some thought.

>Exploring
Pressing the button of your discovery scanner and sell maps.

Look, I'm not looking for a global arc or storyline. I can entertain myself just fine without a real purpose, but is this really all there is to it? Even the ships look and feel similair. What am I missing here?

>>153310548
i'm trying to find the article now.

there's some giant derelict ship in lore in a bermuda triangle type are.

weird shit just happens there.

>>153299649
kek those airlocks really screw over pvp. I went there to try out my shotgun and got instakilled from behind

>>153310875
Yeah the interior is anti-comfy. You literally need go crawl and move through a narrow as fuck walkway, moving the camera either side is enough to make your character hit a wall (or the bed, the way it's so cramped and forced in)

>>153310787
Probably very recent since the debris is still near each other instead of floated away. Even 1mm/s would be several kilometers away after a day.

That said I jumped into a "recent combat aftermath" USS inside a planet's exclusion zone and found a dead Type-9 surrounded by canisters. The canisters started falling towards the planet as soon as I arrived.

>>153310875
>Then it got the interior revamp which made it fucking impossible to move around with any amount of quickness and it just became annoying as hell to use.
That one is true, they did shorten the animations while moving through it but it still takes too long to reach the cockpit.
Once you're in though, it's a crazy maneuverable ship with fairly good firepower once you replace the shitty laser cannons.

>>153310915
Yeah it wouldn't be too interesting without the swished warping. They were objectively right to try and diverge from "it's a plane" to make it interesting, it's just subjectively questionable the path they took.

>>153311017
You fail to see what this game is supposed to be all about

>>153311017
>What am I missing here?
Nothing. It gets shit ratings everywhere and this general mocks how empty the game is all the time

t. E:D victim

>>153311218
Bullshit

>>153311287
People clocked thousand hours into this game. You cant tell me theyve only been warping towards solar systems all this time can you?

>>153311202
Maybe animation speeds aboard ships will logarithmically improve the more time you spend inside a particular model.

>>153311017
>everybody was so excited the game cathered to different playstyles

This is a meme, it's never been 100% true as at least one profession always tends to lose out.

Trader also requires zero thought because the economy is entirely static. The most you see it fluctuate is when a bunch of people latch onto one route and it diminishes your margin until the numbers reset.

According to the dads, you need to make up your own story, that is tap into your inner autism and roleplay your original character.

>>153311416
if only you knew

>>153311439

I really like that idea from an immersion aspect, but I feel that it could seriously get in the way of gameplay.

If I'm a pirate and I sneak aboard an enemy ship, I'm going to be rushing as fast as possible. A door is a door, a ladder is a ladder. The slowdown hitch should come from the player knowledge of said ship.

Maybe I did an Ocean's Eleven kinda heist and researched the fuck out of the ship layout before I even attempted it.

how do i change my currency from USD to GBP? i want to take advantage of the syste

>>153311202

One or two threads ago I lurked in someone said they removed Avengers moving cockpit glass and ladder, did they really? Cause that's pretty shit.

If they go for a full interior redesign they should just drop the pizza oven of a bed and apply a Freelancer style side airlock door instead, though smaller and more compact.
And dump the whole crawl space idea, that's just bad.

>>153311565
Maybe collecting blueprints advances your progression as if you'd spent X time on a ship.
Maybe it's a waste of time to drum up maybes about a project swimming in scope-creep

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>>153310875
>concept billed
>billed
Enough penguin puns

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>>153310627
Hopefully they'll have a manufacturer with a sense of humour.

>>153311446
>>153311461

NMS was a disspointment, Elite is boring, SC doenst come out until 15 years from now and EVE is unbalanced as fuck.

IS IT REALLY TOO MUCH TO ASK TO JUST HAVE A GOOD SPACE GAME WITH ONLINE COMMUNITY, GOOD CONTROLS, MEANINGFUL EXPLORATION, FACTIONS, PLAYSTYLES, TRADING, DOGFIGHTS, RANDOM EVENTS, SHIPCLASSES, PROGRESSION AND IMMERSION?

Why even live at this point.

>>153311416

We dont call it "Euro Space Truck Sim" for no reason.

>>153311756
The moving canopy and ladder where removed a long time ago.
Now they made the animations going in and out of the crawl space a bit shorter, but it's still a hassle.
I hope the Avenger will get a new interior redesign honestly.

>>153311845
SC 3.0 alpha should have some shit to play and a better netcode, allegedly.

>>153311910
As someone with a lot of time logged in eurotruck it's not even close. Driving in eurotruck is just fun because the gameplay is being a good fucking driver and not letting stupid bongers fuck up your load because big ben seems to strike wimblybong every 30 seconds. Also there's something about going no GPS in a fresh truck and driving practically blind. Flying in E:D is boring shit because there is no actual gameplay within supercruise, it's just point your shit at your destination and tap your 75% hotkey when you hit 7 seconds eta.

>>153311756
They haven't exactly removed it, but currently you can only have one enter or exit animation from an object like the cockpit. You'll be able to exit straight out like you can in the Warlock once they're done making the different prompts a thing.

>>153311910
Fine, but nothing is going to happen if I start grinding ranks and get a better ship? Different missions, more possibilities anything like that?

>>153312136
Cockpit entry is still there. The warlock variant uses it since the EMP generator takes up the cargo hold. The engine can't handle multiple points of entry/exit yet, so you can't use it in the normal ship. Hopefully patch 3.0 fixes this. Also that the regular mustangs get a cockpit entrance option as well.

>>153311840
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBe1hwg7V-M

>>153312593

> The engine can't handle multiple points of entry/exit yet

Multi-crew ships beg to differ.

>>153312409
Do have any ideas on how to fix supercruise?
You can't remove it entirely but you can tweak numbers or change mechanics.

>>153312591
No, nothing at all like that. You'll be doing the exact same things in a sidewinder that you can do in a Corvette or Cutter.

>>153312606

>Connie loaded with 20 pirates attempt mass boarding of a Starfarer by jetpacking out while a dragonfly onlooker vidcards the carnage

>>153313043
Mini jumps to planets/stations/etc. Anything targetable in navigation.

>>153312979
I think you misunderstood. Multiple entry-exit points from the same seat.

>>153306208
>>153309305

Galnet news update: Senator Denton Patreus bankrupted by clerical error.

>>153313189
They've kind of shot themselves in the foot by making all the ships to flexible. Something like only bigger ships can mount synthesis/crafting modules, or AMFUs, or planetary vehicle hangers would have been an idea. Meanwhile only smaller ships can land on the bigger planets.

Actually thinking about it the first thing we've seen that some ships can do that other can't is launch fighters.

>>153305890
>>153306208
This is what CG's should be like, motivation to actually do the things. This is the first time I've seen a CG pay more than what could be gained by just trading or bounty hunting.

>>153313614
>Making all the ships too flexible

It's not only that they're flexible, it's that that is the depth of everything you can do in the game. And you're correct, ship launched fighters is the first thing that the big ships have exclusively.

>>153313443


Also still not true then. See: Gladius!

You can either access it from the ladder on the side, or if you are in zero-G, you can fly above it and pop open the canopy from the top

>>153313614

Not having turrets mountable on a sidewinder would have been a good start.

>>153295065
Even after all this time, I can still get mad at these retards on the forums. At least tell me he got BTFO in the thread later?

>>153313401
>Anything targetable in navigation.
What do you mean by this?

>Mini jumps to planets/stations/etc
They might do it to stars at least. Which helps for multiple star systems.

I'd like to change hyperspace out so that you come out at a fixed distance. Like 10 AU or so (should be safe, I don't think there are any stars bigger than that). That way different size stars would look obviously different. That far out of the gravity well you could ramp up SC speed faster. Having to travel down to the star would slow explorers down though. Maybe they would have to change to doing one long scoop instead of scooping at every star.

>>153313860
The engine can be programed to used different options based on situation, but it can not do actual choice.

What is the absolute best spacegame to play in 2016?

>>153298443
I've flown it before and after and while I actually like it better now I was accidentally drifting into asteroids a lot. takes a long time to stop or change vector. I didn't decouple though so that was probably a mistake.

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>>153314927
space engine

>>153314927
Kerbal Space Program
Alien:Isolation
Star Control 2

>>153314791
>What do you mean by this?

What I said. Go to your nav tab, anything you can select in it you can mini jump to. Planets, stations, asteroid belts, stars, conflict zones, whatever. I don't meant like IN the zone, like click and boom you're at the station, but something like 10ls out.

>>153315101
Does stuff move in space engine? Like does that massive typhoon looking thing rotate?

>>153315124

I've always wanted them to add a module that could do that. It'd be something for the noobs to work toward.

>>153313939
That's a good point, limiting turrets to only certain mounts would be good.

Maybe around Type 6 and bigger. Though the top mount on an Adder would be a good spot to allow one as well.

>>153314927
X Series

>>153315570
If it weren't for the fact that you can slap them on fighters and have them constantly firing while you pirouette around bulkier ships, they could have actually made them not-shit.