/civ4xg/ - Civilization, mStellaris and 4X Games General

Thea is okay.

>>153255350
>>153255134
Thea is okay edition

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>>153255134
>mStellaris
Mmmkay.

>>153255134
fourth for guessing

witches are good right?

>>153255134
>>153255564
*tips*

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>>153255605
shit forgot pic

>>153255765
yeah witches one of the better classes

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>>153255134
>mStellaris

>>153255884
Heinlein update is pretty good looking with the new Fallen. Hope the dlc won´t be to expensive ,,,

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>>153255564
REMOVE AEON
go back2 ur aliens u dam green dykes

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what do you guys think about the new look for the leaders in CVI?

bit cartoony imo

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>>153255990
only 7.99€
but is worth 20€!

buy now, most valued customer!

>>153256346
fucking triforce

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Anon who was playing Alpha Centauri from last thread here

>>153196724

It is year 2300. Game started on 2101, so we're 199 turns into the game.

I'm playing as University. I control the continent I started on. Early on we made the Peacekeepers to the north bend the knee, and become our diplomatic servant on a leash. The Hive was wiped out by the Spartans. We've allied with the Morganites due to our inclinations towards Free Market economics. The Believers have been getting their shit kicked in by the Spartans, after The Hive was taken down. The Gaians have been relatively untouched by anyone else, and so have thrived more than the other AI's, in the continent next door - we're currently engaged in a Vendetta by them, of their own doing.

All that said, however, University has maintained a steady lead on every aspect of the game this time. I started learning the basics on how I should exploit my formers, and how to use Supply Crawlers at a basic level. I also learned more about balancing funds betweern Econ, Psych, and Lab. It's at 30/30/40 right now and it seems to be working out great. Helps a lot managing the drones. Have been grabbing a bunch of the useful Secret Projects, and I have fairly nice main cities with a few secondary ones that are either for prototype building mostly, or coastal.

About 50 turns ago we first got acccess to the Needle Jets. Holy shit, they're a tide turner. Since I started experiencing major troubles at home with indigenous lifeforms, I got the idea of prototyping jets with 1/1/12 but with bonus Psi Attack. I keep two at every base and the results have been majestic. I really love this prototyping mechanic.

Since we're in a Pact with Lal and Morgan, we almost have the votes to be elected Supreme Leader in the council, but not quite. Need 2/3. So I guess I'm gonna keep riding the tech lead and see where it takes me. Probably a Transcendence victory but we'll see. Really excited.

Soon: War with Deidre and maybe Miriam.

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>>153256496
A little close up

Any suggestions from other AC players? I'm pretty new, so I'm playing on Talent difficulty (~Normal)

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>>153256686
And the diplomatic situation

Anyone here played Distant Worlds? How does it compare to the barely functional Stellaris?

I'm itching for some galactic genocide, but fun one.

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>>153255605
>>153255765
Witches indeed one of the better classes, but I'm mildly disappointed with their low Magic value. I have 6 of them (including an Orc Witch and a Baba Yaga) and only 1 has higher Magic than 5. (They're between level 6 and 9.)

Inventor, however, surprised me in a positive way. She might be a little fragile without additional protection, but she's really versatile and can easily be a jack-of-all-trades with a few trinkets and whatnot.

>>153256324
Cybrans 5ever.

>lasers
>engineering station
>lasers
>monkeylord, SupCom's poster unit
>laser
>T1 gunship
>laser

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>>153256965
Yes.

It's ugly as fuck with a windows UI and 2D graphisms but it's fucking deep as fuck and the music is awesome.

AND YOU CAN PLAY AS A SPACE PIRATE
TUUUUUUUBES

>>153256346
I don't understand why everyone complains about it being cartoony. Civ has always been cartoony, Civ V is the odd one out and had the most realistic-looking leaderheads in the series.

That's not to say that I wouldn't prefer them to keep the same style as they had in V, but it's silly to give them flak for doing what they've been doing for almost every single previous Civ game.

>>153256346

I don't know what all the hubbub about it is, I prefer the new art style as it has a clear defined direction. Civ 5 I felt the Leader Models were really just caught between cartoon and realism and ended up stuck in the uncanny valley. I think a more cartoonish is style is more appropriate for Civ anyways.

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>>153256965
It's extremely expensive because it has 3-4 expansions, it's extremely fun because of the way economy is handled, and it's easy to mod.

And you can play as a space pirates and name all your ships after famous tuuuuuuuuuuuuuuubes

>>153256346
Why is it that the China leader looks like a WW2 propaganda stereotype but the Japan leader looks like a oriental white guy?

>>153257782
I like the CiVI's artstyle. It's gorgeous and colorful.

>>153257949
i thought the japan dude looked more korean

>>153255134
I've been meaning to give a huge earth map with real start locations a go for years now but I never got around to it. Maybe one last game before VI comes out. On that note, would be nice if they increased the amount of AI characters for VI, as well as making the AI better and more efficient in general.

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>try out CBP
>building walls literally makes a city immortal if you don't have trebuchets

>>153257373
mein neger

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Thoughts?

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>>153256965
It's in my opinion way better than Stellaris.
First, research isn't random.
Second, you research by building stations, but you don't have a lead scientist monopolizing all the research by himself.
Third, you can also build resort station that can give you so many brouzoufs you don't know what to do with them.
Fourth, you can add research laboratories on frigate, put some advanced sensor on them, and use them to spy on your neighbour while research how to make stuff deader (that requires some tweaking with the fuel).
Fifth, unlike Star Ruler, a ship going out of fuel won't kill it. It'll be just fucking slow.

>>153258398
Damn right, son.

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>>153258285
git gud faggot

>>153258420
>these sea monsters
CATHULHU CONFIRMED

>>153256346
I like it. I hate Barbarossa's animation though.

>xcom troopers
how is this allowed

Which RTS have the best coop play?

>mfw you can't train your units in your allies' buildings in Battle Realms
>sending out ressources has a tribute in AoE2 limiting how many ressources you can send before dying
>most of the other games just treat the ally as someone you don't have to kill

>>153258695
To suggest that XCOM's good end isn't that good and that mankind ends up fighting each other once the ayyyys are out.

>>153258526

>literally 3000 BC
>AI shits out walls
>defenseless city is now outhealing 3 archers

xd

>>153258856
I dont know how the ayys lasted so long against 110 strength 49 tile movement cheapass troops

>>153258695
>>153258856
>>153259128
I wish there was a mod that once the game had advanced a certain length of turns it would switch barbarians with aliens and barbarian encampments with alien bases.

They would be extremely hard to deal with because of their speed and attack points, but xcom troops got a huge bonus when fighting them.

>>153258146
It's not bad, I just feel that it's a step down compared to V. Most of it is because they got rid of having detailed backgrounds and opted to just having the leader model imposed over a static image. They lost so much personality compared to the leaders in V:

>Montezuma's aggressive yelling over a sacrifical altar surrounded by a jeering crowd
>Alexander and Genghis both greeting you by horseback
>Theodora's smug flirting from her reclining couch
>Harald Bluetooth looking down on you from his longboat
>Attilla glaring at you from his throne, surrounded by the spoils of his conquests
>Pedro's impatient stare from behind his office desk

All of this shit and more was amazing and I'm really disappointed to see that it won't be in VI.

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>probably over 2000 hours in Civ 5 easily
>getting a bit repetitive these days
>been modding it a bit but nothing really game-changing
>notice there's Civ 5 recommended mods in the OP
>install like 10 of them on top of the 8 or so I already have
>play one of the Civs I've never played and try playing differently
>game feels somewhat fresh again
this must be what it's like to peel a mouldy carrot and coat it in ketchup

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>>153259447

>this must be what it's like to peel a mouldy carrot and coat it in ketchup

>>153259447
>implying the civs are really differents
Woah, I get a legionary unit until of a swordman.


Sooo different.

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>>153256847
>>153256686
>>153256496
>tfw /civ4xg/ doesn't care about Alpha Centauri anymore, one of the best 4X games of all time

What went wrong?

>>153259697
That's what the mods are for

What will Gilgamesh look like in Civ 6?
His nasu appearance or some bearded arab

>>153259447
Install Alpha Centauri >>153167662

>>153259718
>/civ4xg/ doesn't care about Alpha Centauri anymore,
not true

>>153259718
Just because we're not commenting doesn't mean we don't care.
I don't see the point in quoting you just to say "epic xDDD" or "cool".

>>153259784
All civs just feel the same in Civ. At least SMAC had a story.

>>153258420

I'm excited to play it. Don't know how long it will keep me playing though.

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how do you think when researching buildings? The well seems too reliant on RNG to be useful, and I don't know what buildings are after it. The smithy seems alright, the baracks seem OK, the herbalists hut actually looks really good now that I look at it

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>>153259817
Bearded arab, probably. Pic related, this is how he looked like in Civ IV and I don't see a reason to believe he'd look much different except in terms of artstyle.

>unironically believing weebshit would ever make it anywhere near this game

>>153259817
Google "F/ST Gilgamesh". Then imagine the opposite : a strong muscular man instead of that wimpy faggot.

>>153260068
The real question is : do cabbage field really spawn babies?

>>153259879
>All civs just feel the same in Civ. At least SMAC had a story.
Yeah I know, in the base game they're not really all that different from each other compared to SMAC and stuff, that's why about 5 of the mods actually make it so they feel a lot more different and play differently. That's the entire point I was trying to make, I applied a dozen different mods at the same time to make the game actually feel fresh again. At least temporarily.

>>153259825
I already did that a couple of days ago, I'm playing it on and off. Still kind of getting into it, just gotta adjust 17 years back.

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>>153259817

obligatory

>>153260110
>The real question is : do cabbage field really spawn babies?

I think so, they attract babies like some other buildings attract elves or humans AKA they sometimes spawn with only a HUD noticfication

>>153260072
Holy shit that's one sick beard. My respect : top tier.

have they released the system requirements for C6?

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>>153260072
>>153260287
For further reference, here's a statue depicting Gilgamesh which is also the image Firaxis are using for him on their leader table that was leaked some time ago.

>>153260615
>getting his leg clawed by a baby lion
>stoic as fuck
>that sick beard

>>153260615
Leon and snake symbolize something?

>>153260798
That he's a badass.

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where did it all go so wrong?

>>153260798
They symbolize shit man I don't fucking know, I'm not a history professor. I just hit up google for the image.

>>153260798
Snake is wisdom, Lion is might.

>>153260068
What game is this?

>>153261279
thea: the awakening

>>153261279
Check the filename my man

>>153261279
Thea.

>>153261370
>>153261398
Thanks.
>>153261372
My bad. Just saw the date and stopped reading.

>>153261279
Thea.

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So what does /civ4xg/ think of the upcoming Endless Space 2?

And by endless space 2, I mean massive space fish tits.

>>153262747
>reused AI
Already lost interest for it.

>>153262747
It looks fucking awful.

Guys, I want Stellaris to be good.

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>Endless has a shit space game coming out
>Civ has a hyped up terrestrial game coming out
Well that was quite the reversal.

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>>153263052
Too bad.

>>153263052
We know. You ask like every day if Stellaris is good yet. The answer is no. The answer will always be no.

>>153263052

Wait for stellaris 2.

>implying they'll get the ai functional even then

>>153263292
Dunno, the AI in CK2 is pretty brutal.

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Seriously guys, I don't know why my AoWIII mods aren't working.

They are on the UserContent folder, the launcher detects them, they are enabled, yet the game does nothing with them.
The changes simply don't appear in-game, even though everything else seems to be fine.

What the fuck am I doing wrong and how do I fix it?

Is there a single space 4x game that does ground combat well?

>>153263468
What mods have you got enabled? They might be conflicting.

What RTS game have the best politics ?

Im NOT interested in army or war i just want to roleplay as Donald Trump and be a dick to everyone

Guys, I want BERT to be good.

>>153263805
I try running a single mod and not even that will work.

For example; I try using Triumphant Heroes (which only adds some custom-made heroes) all by itself. I place the .taf in UserContent and the Launcher detects it and puts it on the list, as well as placing the .taf inside a folder with some .acp and a .xml files, yet when I run the game none of these heroes appear.

I also try running Age of Wardrome, yet I still can't choose whatever clothing I want when creating/editing custom heroes.

It's pretty frustrating, since I can't find anything on the internet that points to other people having this same problem.

I'm kinda glad that Civ6 doesn't really have a ton of hype around it as much as just a sort of quiet, cautious optimism, I think it'll be good for the game's reception.

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>>153264013
>RTS
>i just want to roleplay as Donald Trump and be a dick to everyone

Don't know about having the best politics, but Rise of Nations always seemed to me like one of the greatest RTS out there, along with AoE.

>>153265130
The diplomacy in Rise of Nations is pathetic.

>>153264050
What is it with BE health? Huge swathes of the game remain uncolonized because health is so hard to get up. Each city has positive health but the global health after a little warring and expansion is like -40.

Does BERT fix that?

I got the civ 4 bundle ages ago and I can't seem to find an answer to my question anywhere else but having problems getting Civ 4 Beyond the Sword to boot while all other expansions boot up fine, BTS just jumps to the Steam Store front page. Attempts to get it to run don't produce any sort of error message either.

>>153265214
Well, no RTS has good diplomacy so what the fuck do you want?They are twitch games aimed at spamming units and out-microing your opponents on the battlefield,not diplomacy sims.

>>153266247
Not him, just saying.

Even Star Ruler 2 has a more complex political system than Rise of Nations.

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>>153264458
>>153263805
Guess I'm just gonna have to kill myself and hope than I can play modded AoW3 in my next life.

>>153265963
in BERT health is too easy to get and there is too much land to settle and too little competition for the best spots. the 4 health per deal trait can give you an easy 20 health really early, and paean can mostly erase unhealth going into the mid and lategame. even without those you can nearly erase unhealth early on with a few of the prosperity virtues.

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>>153260798
>Leon

That he's a Professional.

>>153260110
>do cabbage field really spawn babies?

Spawn is not the best expression. Crafting materials not only influence the quality of a building, but certain ones have bonuses to attract specific creatures (e.g. Sandstone / Clay = Beasts, Gold = Dwarfs, Enchanted Bone = Demons, Dark Wood = Goblins, etc.)

Every turn there's a possibility that somebody join your town - you can influence this through planned building. The Cabbage Field has +1 Attract Children (and might +1 Attract Human) even with the worse materials, but you can easily pump it up or customize to your liking.

>>153260068
Keep in mind, you "only" has 10 slots. I prefer buildings that unlock extra classes, minus the Archery (Hunter) and Manger (+10 skill to children-turned-to-Gatherers, +Beast attraction). Blessed Tree Symbol / Blessed Paths is useful but there's better options, it's mostly extra comfort.

>>153267945
>getting far into a game of thea

literally how? Just keep powering through?

>>153268232
is Thea that hard?

>>153263707
bump

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The dev diary for those too lazy to go to paracux site.

>>153268864
Of course they decided that the feature to make Fallen Empires actually interesting is DLC.

Why the fuck do people let Paradox get away with this shit?

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>>153268232
I'm 239 comfy turns in without any problems on Normal. Just finished my hardest fight, lost my first man against a bunch of Shades. I haven't even bothered with crafting that much (which, as I see now, can be powerful), only got it into lately as I almost ran out of building slots. What was your problem?

>>153269132
I find it challenging mostly because the wandering monsters making it risky to gather, knowing what to gather, knowing when you are powerful enough to reasonably complete a quest, how you advance and get better stuff in general. I mean you can research a material, but how do you get a party out and gather it without everyone dying?
Also how do I balance parties so I'm ready for all sorts of encounters?

I still find the game to be good though, just for the record

>>153269052
I'm going to politely disagree with you somewhat on the grounds that awoken fallen is a free feature, but I do agree it seems a bit incongruous to put the War in Heaven behind a paywall.
Unless, of course, there are gonna be more features in that update.

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>>153268864

>paywalls
>you will torrent it anyway

>>153269734
First of all, make sure to pick a suitable Deity (mine is Veles), Warrior as unit focus at start (new players tend to live 2× longer with this) and make sure to get the most out of your starting environment. Always consider first what's near and available (e.g. you have constant resupply).

As for risks, skulls above enemy's meant to represent difficulty: 1 / 2 starts are a walk in the park and even 3 is usually a safe win. Actually going out either to discover or gather is extremely rewarding, I barely spent any training points to materials / items until I had 9 unlocked buildings.

Why? Because loot got me covered in every way. Weapons, armour, crafting materials etc. My discovery party consists 3 Warriors / 1 Medic / 2 Intellectual / Hex types. My Gathering parties (who tend to stay near Ostoya) follow a similar pattern, only fill these roles much more loosely.

When it comes to quests, I suggest saving right before entering a building. Usually, you can come back 3 times to a house / dungeon etc., though the MQ tend to have 1-shot locations. Certain tasks need specific parties (e.g. to cure a Baba Yaga you need a lot of Hex), but that's rare.

Honestly, once you understand the how the card game works (especially that alternative methods are always preferred, the worst that can happen is that you have to fight). For me, it was also important to not rush the game and have a healthy supply of everything but it's not mandatory.

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>>153272004
Shit, meant to say in the last line: once you understand how card game works, it'll be a lot easier to feel your limits and build up a strategy. Also, here's my starting location: I believe I was lucky, as I have several valuable materials close to my town. I have dedicated parties to them.

We're living on Mushrooms and Wood since day 0. Then as it was in 1-turn reach, I started using Clay / String to build shit and Fish / Seaweed / Fruit (all were unlocked by default) to diversify both my crafting options and food supply. Wicker was the first I unlocked if I recall correctly.

There's also a Granite / Iron deposit up North (couldn't fit in the pic): the first was useful as an alternative to Clay but since I needed access to another metal I unlocked Gold and started mining as you can see. During this period , Leathers (esp. Scaled) from loot served me pretty well.

Next step was switching to Elven Wood for extra options then lately Ancient Wood as a base of superior weapons b/c it's extra poison damage. All of these because they were relatively close, so I can always resupply. Meanwhile extra materials from loot were fantastic to craft single items.

>>153256965
Best 4x I ever played.
I wish I could say otherwise, but the facts are here.

>tfw killing pulsar crystallines even though I'm done with the tech just to deny others the tech

>>153266150
Anyone?

Also, if you could fix what's wrong with Stellaris, what would you do and why?

>>153275915
>Anyone?
No idea I'm afraid.

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is there anyone who's played new MoO that can explain how pic related isn't underpowered? As far as I can tell the driving force of the game is:
>Make population -> make colony ships -> secure production/science lead -> win
but they fail the first step hard

So, Rome revealed tomorrow. maybe

>>153275915
Oh boi I was just waiting for an opportunity to vent

Space combat should be more refined than death ball vs death ball, especially more control over the fleets, like why can't I tell my ships to fly away when they are faster than the enemy fleets? I actually would like to be able to micromanage battles... Imagine if you could destroy jumpdrives and weapon system and then board + capture ships.

Planetary sieges should offer an orbital bombardment which just wipes out every POP on the planet over time. Literally a genocide, but only for xenophobe/militaristic. Should have a chance to block tiles with nuclear wasteland. Should be able to surrender planets which are under siege to avoid damaging them, like cities open the gates to invading armies IRL

Economy is extremely simple with just credits and minerals. I wish there were more resources that actually matter (crystals for laser/shields, nuclear material for nukes, generic minerals for constructing ships and buildings, some consumer goods which will boost/decrease happiness based on how many you have, etc). Food should not be as big a deal and surplus food should boost happiness on the planet or 50% of the surplus should be distributed to other plants.

The AI just needs to get better. Sector management AI, everything the AI empires are doing etc.

More meaningful diplomacy, like espionage. E.g. finding out the enemys ships config before you go to war so you can change your ships to counter them, stealing research, getting vision over their units, support rebel movements, etc.. Better trade deals and research agreements.

War demands and peace negotiation should be reworked. Should be a mix of EU4 and Hoi4 peace conference.

More internal politics, especially multiple species empires should be able to set policies for every species.

More freedom with the ship designer. Ships should just have a size = amount of module slots and you can put in engines, power gen, weapons, shield, armor, sensors, aruas

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>>153279065
Muh Hardrada

>>153279235
-40 IF has ethic: Fanatic Xenophobe AND NOT{is in the same phenotype as: Your Empire }

-20 IF has ethic: Fanatic Xenophobe AND is in the same phenotype as: Your Empire AND NOT{is the same species as: Your Empire } AND NOT{is subspecies of: Your Empire }

Basically mammals don't hate other mammals as much as everyone else?

>>153279481
>I wish there were more resources that actually matter (crystals for laser/shields, nuclear material for nukes, generic minerals for constructing ships and buildings, some consumer goods which will boost/decrease happiness based on how many you have, etc)
Yeah this is something that would improve the game a lot I think.

Would help trade a lot.
Like how you can sell a lot of more basic minerals for crystals so you can build lasers.
Simply having Mineral X, Mineral Y, would make it better imo, but you can do much better than that.

I'd possibly want something like production from civ5.
So you can have a mining world, but then you have a different manufactoring world which actually produces the stuff.

>>153272004
>>153274330
nice, thanks. I'll try to get something going

>>153280058
Ahh.
I understand.

>Basically mammals don't hate other mammals as much as everyone else?
calling them mammals bothers me

Awakened Empires sound pretty neato.

>Only place to discuss city building games now is Reddit
Don't you fucks ever abandon me like /cbg/ did..

>>153282825
>city building games
You mean Skylines? Because that's the only one worth playing these days.

Even if the memory management is fucking awful and Unity is shit.

>>153282825
There are the occasional /v/ threads for city building games.

>>153255350
>>153255462
>we thea now
glad I saw you messages on previous thread
missed opportunity on new bread edition
how is the game?

>>153281670
I like how fallen empires no longer prevent playstyles. But I'm not sure about the whole idea where they had Fallen Empires not doing anything at all. Whenever they talk about the development process surrounding the game it creates this mysteriously disorganised, rushed atmosphere. Wiz seems really passionate for the games, and even if you think his direction is bad its better than the boring-bad that other project leads try and push.

He still suffers from that "EU4/CK2/HoI4 had this mechanic so it should be in!." mindset that usually ruins gameplay.

>>153282825
honestly, considering this general is dying I don't think there is anything wrong with posting some skylines or SC4 or hell even banished or stronghold

>>153284405
The idea of them making requests/demands of you is really neat and sounds like it's going to be loads of up.

I'm just still butthurt that I can't build ringworlds. They really need to add more end-game tech, like buildable ring worlds, stuff like Dyson swarms and Death Stars, etc.

It feels like right now you can build mining/research stations and build shit on planets, but you can't really making any changes to the galaxy itself, and it feels unsatisfying.

>>153260110
yeah I've kinda had that cabbage field forever (literally 100 turns) and only came to see a new babby in my last couple of turns

>>153260068
good question I kinda forgot what is below.... google
there is the meeting hall which allows for Sage class
the building after palisade allows for extended range on the village
and the one after barracks allows for rangers, which is pretty good too

>>153267945
Its also worth to rebuild buldings if you have the materials
by far the hardest part of the game is gathering research points

btw have you guys ever ran against the really OP creatures?
my group met a three red skull wraith, nearly got slaughtered
350 health, 50 damage

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Curiously, Cleopatra isn't speaking Coptic in Civ VI- she's speaking Middle Egyptian. Most accurately, she'd be speaking Demotic, but it's at least a step up from Arabic?

Maybe they already have an alternate leader planned for Egypt.

>>153269132
I'm around turn 200 as well
but I have to say, I must have noobed it out big time
Think I only lost one guy, that was a big warrior
how many skulls was that hardest challenge?

I find the hardest point is to gather research points and holy crap that super strong 5 skulls monster appearing around
a big portion of the game I spent in stale-mate barely able to do anything

I'm Fanatic Pacifist-Materialist.

Do I colonize with Fanatic Pacifist-Materialist, or Fanatic Pacifist-Materialist-Xenophile?
Is there a detriment to pops that have your exact ethos, but then another ethics?

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>>153284886
>350 health, 50 damage

>>153285537
Any divergence from your empire's exact ethos is bad.

>>153255134
>Civilization general
>most civilized general with actual discussion
there's a joke here somewhere

>>153286625
There's no extra divergence though.

They have all of my ethics already.
And they have another ethic.

>>153286867
That is divergence from your ethics. Xenoneutral pops have different opinions that Xenophile pops. This is bad because your empire is Xenoneutral.

>>153280346
another anon here
lets see if I can push out some tips:

gathering is most effectively got the first character in line only, the following ones only contribute 50% (same for crafting)
for that reason I prefer to send out small groups of 3~4 people to gather resources... **IF** the area is safe, depending on your gatheres and equipment they could easily protect weaker creatures
so what I ended up doing in early game is clear out my village surroundings, nests and whatnot, this makes it mostly safe
then I walk and explore during day and camping the whole night gathering resources, this is mostly safe early game until the big monsters start to appear

its always useful to craft and build stuff, research points are the most valuable thing in game, after your characters of course...
always try to craft meals, as they are more cost efficient and lighter to carry, always try for variety too, the food variety bonus are huge
crafting of jewelry and special items is pretty good too, specially because those are rare to find loot, they give pretty varied bonus and also valuable research when crafting

the tower building is pretty useful, specially with good materials, as that sight range goes through the night as well, other buildings are useful too, some seem to carry their bonuses to everyone, not only the village

so for your main explorer party, always try to be varied with people, I carry my warrior, hunters, medic, sage, and even some gatherers to help out,
like the other anon said, challenges besides fight are usually the way to go (though I think fight gives more loot), and that is, considering if you have the right people for the challenge in question
once difficulty rises (I think it tops at turn 100), the big monsters start to appear... and yeah >>153285594 they are horrific

>>153284779
the galaxy is very small. Just about every other species is Humans-with-a-mask. Every other planet is a different US State instead of something alien. Even robots don't even go on barren planets. That said, I like the idea that fallen empires will be so advanced that you'll never really be able to catch up in 300-500 years of playtime, but tech is so boring and unambitious.

>>153262747
thicc

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>>153284886
>>153285489
What I found interesting is that before the fight I mentioned @ >>153269132 the skulls were yellow instead of white. So colour must be the other indicator (white - easy, yellow - medium, red - hard) next to the number of skulls.

>worth to rebuild buldings if you have the materials

Yeah, it's a bummer there's no up-to-date Wiki(a) to see what do you need for different results. Even the devs' own Wiki (at their official site) is totally unreliable, so your best bet is to try to figure out the best outcome from what you have in stock.

>I find the hardest point is to gather research points

As I said, I only relied on buildings at early stages. Now that I have a few weapon / armour options unlocked (simply because I ran out of slots), I see that Research Points can be reliable acquired though crafting too. High-end stuff often gets 15-20 (!) RP to the table per item.

>>153287580
> until the big monsters start to appear

BTW I haven't figured out what triggers the appearance of higher level creatures. My tip is beaten enemies - I found a 3-skull nest in an area, destroyed it, then in the next turn another 3-skull nest AND a 5-skull Raider Lair appeared in a few tiles away from it. I'm sure they weren't there before.

>>153286656
We'll have to raise our population to research it.

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>>153286656
is this the meme your looking for?

>>153286625
Not necessarily.
E.g, say I was playing a fanatic collectivist militarist, and I happen to get a collectivist militarist materialist pop. I could use them to settle a colony which focuses entirely on science, since they would generate more science.

>>153256496
>not playing on the large map of Planet

On the small map, one faction always gets screwed by spawning on that tiny landmass in the north, that Morgan has in your pic.

>>153256686

Build more crawlers. Your map should be nothing but crawlers and boreholes.

>>153263707

Master of Orion 2.

>>153263707
Solar Conquest on wc3

>>153276349

In earlier MoOs, they ignored pollution and could make use of planets no-one else can use, specifically toxic planets.

Is Seven Kingdoms a 4X game?

>>153285154
>Curiously, Cleopatra isn't speaking Coptic in Civ VI

Why on earth would she speak Coptic? You know she was Greek, right?

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>>153290082
like I've said before
I think the difficulty scales to maximum at 100, when bosses can start to appear

have you noticed those goddamn tremors all the time?
yeah they're Giants, and I've seen their lair, five white skulls

I seriously doubt I could ever beat anything stronger than a 4 skull, and its not like we have an army of folks to spare

>>153298381
Barely.

The x'es are very shallow, and if you really want to call an rts like that a 4x you'd have a hard time claiming many other rts'es aren't 4x.

>>153300682
Oh, okay. I just wanted to ask if there are games similar to that one, but with more stuff and there is no RTS thread on /vg/ nor /v/.

I just have a desire to play sandboxy RTSs/4Xs, while I can look at little people doing their work in city.

>>153301245
Settlers I guess
Nothing else comes to mind atm

>>153285154
>Egyptological pronunciation
I want to kill.

>>153298616
>By contrast, Cleopatra did learn to speak Egyptian and represented herself as the reincarnation of the Egyptian goddess Isis.

>Cleopatra was also renowned for her intellect. Plutarch writes that she could speak at least nine languages and rarely had need of an interpreter.

>>153298616
You want Obama to speak Nigerian because he was born in Nigeria or Trump to speak Russian because he is a Russian sleeper agent?

>>153301517
Well, I played Settlers 4 and Cultures 4, fun games, indeed, but guess I crave for something new for me.

anyone enjoying the new Master of Orion?

Isn't Endless Space 2 going into early access tomorrow?

>>153302298
Maybe Banished? Although that's straying more into city building.

I attempted to play BERT again, it's just so mediocre such wasted potential

>>153301912

She might have been able to speak it but why would she use it address foreign rulers / envoys? Greek was her native language and the language of her court.

>>153303217

Yes, it's pretty good. Needs me some Elerians to be a true successor to MoO2, tho.

>>153303217
I tried it, it seemed really shallow

>>153308212

It shines in MP.

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surprisingly civil conversation in Master Of Orion multiplayer, thanks Steel.

>>153306005
IDK about you, but the relatively hard science fiction setting gives me a raging boner. But yeah, replayability is ridiculously low. Play each affinity once and everything feels the same from that point.

>>153260615
it looks like firaxis is basing the leader models more or less directly off of the images they used on their bingo sheet, so this is probably our gilg

>>153284779
> I'm just still butthurt that I can't build ringworlds. They really need to add more end-game tech, like buildable ring worlds, stuff like Dyson swarms and Death Stars, etc.

I actually don't want these things to be buildable desu.
Stellaris already suffers too much from all star systems being generic, and there being no real reason to go to war other than 'muh 40% win condition'. Partly because there's no such thing as 'a really juicy system that you want to control for strategic purposes'.
The only exceptions to this are maybe strategic-resource systems if you don't already have one of that kind (although the bonuses aren't actually that good), and ringworld systems that are just nice to take for meme purposes.
Now if you let me BUILD ringworlds, I have even *fewer* reasons to ever DoW anyone for territory-control reasons.

As an aside I kinda dislike the idea for flavour reasons too. I like there to be giant, awe-inspiring "How did they do this, we can't comprehend it with our current technology" stuff in the galaxy even in 2500 when you hit the top of the game's tech tree. Fallen Empires are supposed to be millions of years old, aren't they? Seems kinda dumb that you could get on senpai's level in just 300 years.

>>153268864
>respectfully disagree
I keep finding that retarded.

>>153283604
A little hard because it's a bit inintuitive.

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>>153268864
Neat.

Don't really care what you faggots say, I'll be doing the honest thing and paying for any DLCs that catchy fancy if the price is right. Torrentfags are criminal scum causing the pennypinching actions of these companies, not the other way around.

>>153313273
(You)

>>153259447
>not even EUI

>>153268864
>Jingoistic Reclaimers have Thralls
Do they cover your homeworld under a unbreakable shield too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VNul2QETPE

>>153314093
Nigga please. I know what I'm doing.

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>>153313273

>>153314139
What the fuck is an Ur-Quan?

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>>153314993
an ayy

>>153315474
I want to burn that thing with a flamethrower and sever its tentacles one with one with a chainsaw sword. Possibly while yelling "FOR THE EMPRAH".

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Post more Alpha Centauri please, I want screens and memes. Anything you got.

>>153317397
http://lparchive.org/Galactic-Civilizations-II/

Here. A guy uses the leaders from SMAC to represent the various factions in his Senate.
Well, except that he turns the corsair guy in a janitor.

>>153313383
>>153314532

Stealing is wrong, no matter how overpriced you think it is.

>>153317794
You're the reason the gaming industry is dead.

>>153317794
Copyright was a mistake.

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>>153317794
who could it be

>>153317794
>Stealing
Don't use words you don't understand

>>153314532
148 euros?
what the absolute fuck

>>153317787
>GalCiv
>human's power is "super diplomat"
I want a game where humans are feared.

>>153318259
Right, if anything, humans are probably one of the more barbaric and hot-headed species in the galaxy, tbqh.

>>153318398
Maybe not barbaric, but I don't see them as super diplomats.

>feel like being a space empire
>stellaris sounds too bad
>distant worlds sounds like it might be okay
>open game
>click first tutorial
>read first tutorial window
>click next
>read second tutorial window
>begin building spaceport
>a ship comes by and demands currency
>fuck you my planet can probably fight off one ship based on my knowledge of 10 seconds of ruling this world
>they blow my 25% constructed spaceport up
okay friend I'll just try that again

also what the fuck is up with this windows ass looking UI, making a custom UI is literally, LITERALLY, one of the easiest things to do when making a game

>>153310402
The setting feels wasted on it

>>153318040
worst mankind bullshit ever

>>153318239
CK2
145 Euros
http://store.steampowered.com/sub/51212

For EU4 they do not offer a complete collection but if you buy each DLC it adds up to 222 Euros

There is absolutely no reason to release mediocre, buggy, half finished games and then put the necessary gameplay updates in DLCs

Stellaris will be the same which is both good and bad news. Good news because 2 years from now and after severals DLCs the game will probably be a lot better.

>>153317794
>>153313273
nice moving goalposts. the thing that caused pennypinching from companies is the fact that they started doing shittier and shittier things over time. time corrupts anything. companies started bringing out shittier and shittier launches because they could just patch it in later. no harm, no foul. the average consumer wouldnt give a shit anyways. same goes with microtransactions. it used to be that people had expansion packs. (pirating wasn't as much back then, but there was still a lot of it) but then companies realized that they could bring out less and less, calling it 'dlc' instead, but people would still buy the shit out of it just because its new content.

>>153314532
Is that the Harkonnen mentat from Dune 2000?
Jesus, the last time I played that game was like 20 years ago, why do I remember this shit but not a single thing from the Chinese class I went to yesterday?

>>153318040
Copyright was fine, the mistake was in not severely restricting it from the start which allowed it to balloon into a retarded concept that allowed inane shit like copyrighting specific words.

>>153319751
>>153318239
>not just buying steam keys off g2a for ridiculously, suspiciously low prices
I was going to buy Civ 5 and all the DLC for 67% off and it was still 80 bucks, it cost 18 bucks on g2a

>>153320431
>g2a

>>153320431
>suspiciously low prices
thats because they buy everything using stolen credit cards, like every other key site outside of gog. I still buy from them sometimes if its a game I dont care about, but I dont want to buy something I really want to play for hundreds of hours and have it taken away from me by steam

>>153319751
>>153320431
I don't understand why people don't just pirate these old games when they are still so expensive.

>>153320431
>using g2a
Enjoy your key not working because it was bought using a stolen credit card

Just buy the base game and pirate all the DLCs, at least with Paradox games

>>153319238
Don't even bother with the tutorials, if you want to learn distant worlds and want to learn how to play it right, watch this guy
https://www.youtube.com/user/LarryMonte2011

>>153320943
some people have friends they want to play games with and the steam workshop makes modding games very fucking easy

>>153320814
>>153321084
If you can provide some sort of actual citation on that, I'd be willing to believe you, but based on what I've read it's a small number of people doing the stolen credit card thing, not the entire fucking site. Like you would expect with a massive, underregulated marketplace, people are going to try to do dodgy things.

>>153319238
Protip : pay.

Space pirates are a bane at early-midgame.

>>153320431
g2a is objectively worse than pirating

>>153324728
[citation still needed]

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>tfw eternally at war with arabia
>negotiate peace
>both agree
>click done
>still at war

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>>153325186
So my path it seems has been set for me.

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guize...

yep, that's me

>>153325873
>>153325186
your dank mods broke the game

>>153326704
only got cbp. I think it's because arabia and england are friends and england DoW'd me soon after I DoW'd arabia so it's caused some bug

>>153320384
>copyright was fine
the idea was to protect the inventor of something for the first 5 years
where are we now?
by all rights everything produced by humans should be allowed by all humans
and don't even tell me copyright got this way to protect the content creators,
nowadays its pretty much just to fill up the copyright holders coffers
its pure leech greed

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Have any of you guys play this?
>Civilization Call to Power

apparently is what civilization could have been without Sid Meier
I thought it would be bad, but looking from reviews it actually seems pretty amazing
they even had a sequel that was made open-source and heavily improved by the community

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I just realized that somehow, despite having like 2000 hours in this game, I've NEVER seen this guy before. I've played as him, but I've literally never seen this cool ass motherfucker on his longboat. Damn, what a fucking cool guy.

>>153327445
>by all rights everything produced by humans should be allowed by all humans
smells an awful lot like fucking commies in here

>>153327837
It's alright. However I don't see the point of playing it now except for nostalgia value. Overall it is much more shallow than what you would be used to in modern 4x games. It is pretty much Civ for babbies.

>>153327837
It was my first Civ and I haven't played it for like 15 years, but I remember it being amazing.

It has a space layer that's better than BERT in literally every way despite coming out in the previous millenium.

>>153328687
Um... not really? The space layer can have cities but there is no combat. You could launch space marines from the ground into space and have them drop-pod somewhere but that is really it. It was kind of underwhelming.

>>153318040
No anon, YOU were the mistake.

>>153328084
>Commies are evil and everywhere
Smells an awful lot like McCarthy here We'll ignore that he was partially right
Besides, ultimately communism is about the means of production and dissolution of classes. It was probably Marx' biggest mistake to call the end of private ownership of means of production (factories) the end of "private property".His biggest mistake linguistically at least

>playing multiplayer
>someone randomed spain
>they take one with nature on turn 12
at what point do you banic?

>>153329009
it seems like a reall y major oversight to really similar feature but like 15 years difference between games
>>153328124
it also seems to have a proper army feature, no stacks of death unlimited range cities(?)
hell even praised community patch that heavily improves AI

I'm talking about the second here, I really think its worth an shot
even other anon was playing SMAC

>>153329009
> Um... not really? The space layer can have cities but there is no combat. You could launch space marines from the ground into space and have them drop-pod somewhere but that is really it. It was kind of underwhelming
What you describe is still substantially better than BERT's, which has no combat but also no cities, no transport ability, and indeed no unit movement of any kind.

>>153329263
but ownership is one of mankind biggest delusions, ownership implies something that cannot be taken from you
and by all means everything could be taken from you, even your body

that copyright delusion and monetary economy, have the be the biggest reasons why mankind isn't evolving into something bigger
instead its just burying deeper into its own grave

>>153329630
Putin please.

>>153329406
You do know there's a spiffy satellite that lets you teleport your units right? The space layer in BERT is indeed underwhelming but I could never see the space layer being a thing when there is ground and sea already. I mean, for one, putting resources or tile effects into space sounds pretty stupid.

In any case, satellite coverage around every Firaxite tile plus the teleporter has allowed me to pull off some silly victories by putting LEV destroyers within striking distance of a rival planetary wonder. It's very niche, yes, but when you have the resources to abuse it, ooooh boy....

>>153329406
there are satellites that target units though
as well as ones that teleport

>>153330021
>Putin
>Even remotely leftwing
But all baiting aside, we probably should take our political discussions somewhere else than vidya general. Or if we're going to stick to vidya general, perhaps go to /gsg/ :^)

>>153330279
> You do know there's a spiffy satellite that lets you teleport your units right

I actually did forget that.
Which is ironic because I use it to snipe planetary wonders the exact same way you described.

>>153329630
things don't have to be absolute to be real

I own this desk because I went to a store and paid for it with the currency of the nation I legally reside in, it was lawfully given to me by the people who work for the store in exchange for this money, I keep it in my house, I use it, and no-one else attempts to claim that it is theirs or take it from me, as I would object to this. Sure, someone could break into my house and try to take it from me, but that's what is known as "theft", something which is against the law of the country which I live in and basically every single society that has ever existed. As I "own" the desk, it is my property. The government which governs the land and enforces the laws, such as not stealing other people's legal property, would then, hopefully, enforce the law and force the person who stole my desk to return the desk, and then they would be punished for breaking the law of the land. This then provides incentive for other people to not steal my shit, because if they get caught then they get punished. Hence, I own my desk.

Someone in Canada could see a picture of my desk and claim to own it. There is literally nothing stopping them from doing so, but as very, very few people would support them in this claim, and they have virtually no way of enforcing this claim, they don't have ownership of my desk. Perhaps to them they do, but that is irrelevant, because they are delusional. If, however, they were to fly over here, come into my house, kill me, take my desk, and go live in a cave with my desk, the desk has become theirs, in a sense, as they now possess it. However, the law doesn't recognize this as legal ownership, and the nation has the backing of tens of millions of people who have a vast amount of power compared to one guy in a cave. Ownership does NOT imply something cannot be taken from you, that's a ridiculous claim.

have they released the system requirements for C6?

>>153332602
no, games normally dont until close to release. probably wont be much more than civ 5 though.

>>153332602
What, are you expecting the poly count to be through the roof?

Even a toaster can play Civ5 on dx9 mode with low settings.

>>153330627
but you forget something, you own your desk, you own your desk, and you own the computer on it
however the very same government who protects your right to own it, can it take it away, if lets say, you fail to pay their taxes
this basically makes every government a crooked mafia that you have to pay for protection

where in real terms, you have ownership of the things you use, your clothes, the desk, the PC, the food, etc
when you're not using these anymore, it makes no sense what so ever to own it anymore

on the subject of govs, really think about it
lords gathered into kingdoms to protect their lordships, thus came nations, with the heritage of the same old crooked ownership that made no sense
.... well... too sleepy can't think straight anymore

>>153327445
Right. As I said, copyright was fine, where the original architects failed was in not limiting it so that it couldnt balloon into this monstrosity we have now. I feel the urge to kill someone whenever I hear of that someone copyrighting a word. As lawyers should all be sent into the sun for filling the legal system with bullshit, the copyright system should be dismantled and retooled to actually fulfill a purpose for the betterment and advancement of man and not this jewish clusterfuck for the sake of greed we have now, and anyone who "owns" a word should be exiled to fucking greenland.

Has Stellaris become a good game yet?

>>153334453
No.
Heinlein looks like a step in the right direction, but it's not coming until October and even then it's only a step.

>>153334453
it will be good in like a year when theres 100$ worth of dlc out.

>>153334453
>>153334632
Take it from someone who plays Pdox games regularly. Stellaris isn't going to be good until we're several DLC's down the road. This is the way every single las one of their games has worked, with maybe the exception of EU2, CK1, and Vicky1, which each only need one or two expansions to be decent. Since EU3, Pdox games are shitty, buggy, messes, with loads of potential but little substance. After a few years I think Stellaris will be a real gem, but having to wait to get there sucks.

>>153333375
>this basically makes every government a crooked mafia that you have to pay for protection
Not really, taxing people living in a nation together under common laws and principles and co-operating for mutual benefit, in order to have money to spend on benefiting the entire nation and all the people in it isn't really the same as a criminal organization deciding that they're going to force you to give them 200 bucks a week or they'll smash your store up, purely for their own profit. Governments aren't perfect, but the alternative is worse. I'd rather not have my ownership of property depend on whether someone looks at my stuff and decides he wants it, and he has a bigger stick than me so he takes it. And yes, all ownership has to be backed up by power, the different is that with a government, people agree to play by certain rules, because co-operation between humans is what gets us stuff like civilization, science, houses, not dying, stuff like that.

What's the comfiest 4x game?

>>153318398
>incoming contacts, Emperor Ayylbert
>Hail them.
>they won't accept comms-positive ID! Its-oh shit
>Comms officer, get a hold of yourself.
>Apologies, Emporer, but the contacts- well- it's the Humans
>Gods have mercy on us

>>153335151
>like civilization, science, houses, not dying...

Keks were had.

>>153336303
Depends.
Since most 4X are about expanding, it's difficult to find a comfy one.

>>153336303
Banished is the only comfy game I know.

>>153318259
warhammer 40k, if fear even exists in the game

>>153315769
Guess what they want to do to you as well

>>153338832
I would say does. Fluff states that the majority of the scores of alien races (sadly not represented by models) that side with the Tau do more so out of fear/hate of the Imperium than a genuine appreciation of the Greater Good, at least at first.

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3 Days off from work, Time to be productive

>>153255134
Is quick fine for science/culture victories? I feel anything above default speed would be wasting my time.

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Looks like I'm FINALLY getting the hang of it. Sending a gatherer with the warrior really helped, I have a lot of iron and coal.
Going full screen and being able to read the villagers' stats really help. I don't know why, but the game worked in a small 1024x768 window.

I have too many craftsmen. Can I just build 50 smithies?

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>load my game
>this happened somehow

>>153340292
open borders

You just can't move out for that turn because you have 1/5 movement left.

>>153340520
huh had no idea i can just clip through cities

>>153340604
Cities act like Roads/Canals as long as there isnt another unit garrisoned. You can move through city states and cities with open borders but cannot end your turn in them

>>153340604
cities on the coast allow boats to go through them

will there ever be a jew civ?
the lack of diversity is triggering me.

>>153340906
venice

>>153340292
That tiny Earth map is so cute.

>>153341013
tiny australia is adorable

>>153341495
Too bad it discriminates.

What Civ would be the most suited to having workers double as (pissweak) warriors?

I reckon it would be an interesting mechanic, though perhaps broken depending on their strength.

>>153341868
The Romans.
Their legionaries doubled as craftsmen, and could easily build a fort in an afternoon.

>>153341868
I could see that working. They could start with like, 5 strength, so they're basically scouts but without the ability to scout. They could become stronger as you got key technologies, like bronze working could increase their strength to 7, iron working could put it up to 9, when you get gunpowder maybe up to 13 or something, 18 with rifling, etc. Course I put like 10 seconds of thought into that so that's probably not actually balanced, but you know what I mean. They could be slightly more expensive than normal workers too, and become more expensive when they get upgraded maybe. It would certainly be a nice civ bonus to not have your workers get captured by a 90% dead squad of spearmen when they could just be carrying around guns and at least have a chance to run one hex back into town.

>>153339891
gonna need more than 3 days mate

>>153340292
>cartharge not settled one tile northwest
this triggers me

>>153339891
>Marathon

Jesus/Allah/Buddha, dude.

>>153340292
the fuck is CARNIVAL in the goldenage spot at the top mean?

>>153343362
It's the HUE's special ability

>>153343581
ah, fuck pedro

>>153343362
+100% tourism during a golden age

>>153340906
Just like in real life, the jew makes the game, the civs merely play it

Except Skeven Kingdoms 2, is there any "slow" RTS that I can play?
I'm really bad under pressure, so quicky games like Starcraft aren't my log of wood.

>>153344417
>skaven kingdoms 2
I got really excited for a second there

>>153344579
Oh, sorry.

Then again, there's Majesty 2. It's shit compared to the first one, but the expansion allows you to play with monsters, so you can have spearsratmen. Spearratmen.

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What's your superior Stellaris empire ethics?

>Hegemonic Imperialists conquering the stars

>Democratic Crusaders bringing the light of civilization and equality to the galaxy

>Federation Builders forming a peaceful co-existence with others as they all sing kumbeyah

>Religious Zealots bringing the WORD OF GOD to the heathen alien

>Xenophobic Purists taking on the weighty task of cleansing the galaxy of the cosmic mistake that is alien life

>>153344726
Militaristic Zealot trying to play nice, but attacking other religious fuckwits.

Can anyone recommend a good Stellaris game recorded on youtube?

I wish to learn to not suck at the game while doing something else

>>153344980
>good
>Stellaris
Pick one.

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>random spain
>only one natural wonder on the map

>>153346562
pranked

>>153344726
>Isolationist explorers: Survey the galaxy, but stay out of alien affairs

>>153344980
There are no "good" stellaris playthroughs because stellaris is too simple. There are plenty of meme playthroughs that you wont learn anything from though.

>>153344980
What do you want to learn?

>>153340082
What game?

>>153347827
Thea : The Awankeninge or something like that.
Definitely Thea : The something.

>>153347925
Thanks.

Can someone help me out, i downloaded a pirated copy of stellaris and i can't find a way to update the version that i have, anyone know how to do it?

>>153348143
No can do.
If you pirate it, you can't patch it, you have to redownload an updated version.

>>153348251
bummer, thanks anyway m8.

>>153344726
hegemonic imperial xenophobic puritan

>>153348556
And give up on playing Multiplayer.

Paradox is pretty cool with piracy compared to other studios, but don't expect patches or multiplayers. That's pretty much all.

No giant scorpions to fuck your ass, no jolly roger eyepatch, and the game launches properly.

>>153348251
wtf yes you can. I've patched mine each time you fucking lying kike

>>153348996
Cool fake story.

>>153348143
there should be xdelta3 patches on cs.rin.ru

>>153349364
kek, well works for me
>download vanilla codex stellaris
>download each codex patch when they become available
>install each patch
If you can't manage that then yeah I guess wait for a patched version of the game a download that.

Need me some fresh VI content, 2 months to go, the hype isn't sustainable.

>spawn next to shaka
>quit game

Early game warmongering AI on higher difficulties are insane. They'll have 40 units, 8 cities, positive gold and happiness, be ahead of you in tech and the only thing you can do about it will cripple you in the long run.

Best case scenario, you pull a military win out of your ass and keep pushing until Rome stonewalls you and you win a diplomacy victory in the atomic era while Woozy is building spaceship parts.

I think army bonuses might be too focused under society tech in stellaris.

Think it would fit if you had mech and tank techs under engineering.
Maybe a Shield attachment from physics research. Lasguns from physics.


First I'd probably want a rework for planet combat though.

>>153350125
What kind of moron are you?

>>153350248
And now name calling.
Pathetic, truly pathetic. I hope school will resume soon so we're rid of you.

>>153350125
kek
>this passive aggressive memery
stay stupid friend :^)

>>153350327
>And now name calling.
It's not name calling, it's a serious question.
What kind?

>>153350357
>>153350420
>samefagging after he got rekt
Yawn.

>inb4 ms paint "proving" he's not samefagging

>>153350327
>>153350447
that wasn't me and I was name calling you from the start for being a lying kike. Tried to tell you how to patch pirated stellaris and all I get is
>lelele cool fake story
>nice blog lololo XD
and you call other people childish. kek, the hypocrisy is real :^)

>153350721
Yawn.
You don't even deserve a (You), samefag.

>>153350174
yeah i think making planetary combat not garbage would be the more important first step before spreading it between techs

>>153349801
>turn 70
>scout on the other side of the continent finds India
>conquering Greece with some elephants and spearmen and catapults and shit
>has like 5 cities of his own already
>"Hello my friend let's trade embassies :^)"
fuck off Gandhi I'm not telling you where I live you sick fuck

>>153350962
How do you make it not garbage?

Combat screen for the planet is the planets surface, then you can select units and move them around the map?

>>153279481
So much this.

How do we get the paraducks to notice this?

>>153351343
screencap post and mail it to johan
I guess wiz, but johan is more fun

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I sure am glad the entire game appears to be automated, I have absolutely no fucking clue what I'm doing here

>>153351318
you can't make it all that involved, is one issue, since stellaris is real time. spending a lot of time microing a single planet means you aren't focused on the rest of things(or you're having to slow the game down)

i do think that something incorporating the planet's surface would be best just from an IMMULSION perspective. maybe risk-like, where you can put a stack of whatever size in each tile and every 'turn' the stack deals its damage split between all populated adjacent tiles, slightly reduced per tile to promote flanks?

if one stack kills another stack, half of the units in the first move to the target tile. if a stack has no enemies next to it, it moves towards the nearest enemy stack. the biggest planets are what, 5x5? so pathfinding shouldn't be all that complex. you control the initial deployments but not subsequent movement

>>153352316
>you can't make it all that involved, is one issue, since stellaris is real time.
You'd just be moving them like you move your fleets.

>>153352438
>literally just make it a smaller version of space combat
that would actually be pretty cool
the issue there is that i'm not sure the planet's surface exists in that sense, unless you'd just use the tiles

>>153352559
>the issue there is that i'm not sure the planet's surface exists in that sense, unless you'd just use the tiles
Yeah not sure how you could mod that in a satisfying way.

Maybe a weird way you could mod it is where you landing an army on a planet, spawns a "fleet" in a hidden empty star system(could just paint the background grassgreen even) where the defending force also spawns.
Not sure how you can work terrain and such in.

There are nebulas with slower movement, but that's the galaxy map, not the star map.

Reworked construction ship could function as a combat engineer, then you have a few "planets" you can attach defensive stations too. The planets could be named strategic hill or whatever.

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>>153353210
The burd people listened to their LeMay.

So you should always go autocracy as russia right?

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>>153353978
>Russia
>Autocracy

>>153353978
>not going dirty commie ideology as dirty commie russian
better in hell-ow than yellow

>>153353978
I guess you get the most synergy there, but not necessarily always no.

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>>153353978
>not freedom
Democracy is coming for you!

>>153353978
>not winning before ideologies as russia
Catherine would punish you anon

>>153354339
>Catherine would punish you anon
Given her dialogue, I don' think that she is the one doing the punishing.

>>153352285
Play on full manual. Really. Automation will just confuse you.
This guide is written obnoxiously but it got me into the game:
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3508583

>>153354339
>not waiting till you get uranium as russia
With autocracy thats 4 times the nukes

>>153268864
>paradox releases beta version of game (even included pre-ordering)
>you need to pay for dlc to just reach the 1.0 version
i got all my paradox titles for free. call the cops, i don't give a fuck.

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>>153354705
gee I dunno about that one chief I might just play SotS like a babby to get my fix

>>153355118
It's worth it my man. Just take it slow while following the guide for a game or two then start over knowing what is actually going on.