/civ4xg/ - Stellaris and 4X Games General

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>The Prethoryn swarm through the galaxy.
>Before the fall of our homeplanet right where the swarm arrived in the Galaxy, the combined might of our naval forces managed to hold them back long enough for a lone colony ship to flee the system, hoping to rebuilt our race in the far off stars.
>Establishing a new haven on the southern rim, we thought we would be safe while the Elysian Despotate fought them back.
>Even now, we build mighty battleships brimming with weapons shown to be effective against the scourge.
>One day we will push back our enemies like we did during the Crusade of Reclamation 124 years ago, though what we fought back then were mechanicum just like us.

Let us pray to the Omnissah that the holy forgeworld of Occulta Mechanicus is never found, while the galaxy is eaten around us.

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>>152985284
Fuck

>>152985284
dang

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That general shouldn't die.

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>30+ turn golden age ends
>+20% to gold and culture ends
>all cities suddenly gain a couple of points of unhappiness each
>go from slightly positive to -58 happiness
Fuck. I should have seen that coming.
Also, taking this city is a lot harder than it should be, since both the nigger and the whore refuse to give me open borders. (or even exchange embassies)

>>152985284

All de-infested planets become barren and useless. Good luck with that.

>>152987731
Why does China still own those two coastal tiles?

>>152989257
Because they say they do. And they'll build islands there to prove it.

>>152989257
Because they belong to Ulaangom instad of Tianjin. Really fucking annoying. At least once I have taken Viborg, I can just claim them with a Citadel.

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Oy vey!

>>152984812
If there's something I really like about Civ6 is that 'ancient map'-look the Fog Of War has.

>>152987731
Can't wait for Civ6 where borders are open by default.

So, Spain looks pretty awesome!

It's cool that they've incorporated Portugal's ability from Civ V. Spain has bonuses to Faith, Gold, naval combat, and Science. I'm really eager to play them.

So, I've heard that Greece might have two leaders -- does that imply that all civs will, or have I heard incorrectly?

>>152991084

as far as we know it's just Greece in Vanilla, with inevitably the rest coming via updates or more likely (((dlc)))

>>152991472
That seems weird.

The inclusion of 'leader abilities' makes me think that they would include more leaders per civ at launch.

It might just be a last-minute surprise.

>>152991084
>So, I've heard that Greece might have two leaders -- does that imply that all civs will, or have I heard incorrectly?

Two different civs afaik.

Sparta and Athens.

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>>152984812
So why shouldn't I play on quick speed when I'm going for non-domination victories?

>>152989967
>20000 gold gone in a turn

fuck whatever mods these are

>>152992293
Two different versions of Greece?

Why?

>>152992642
One could say the same thing when looking at the celts and england.
Why two different version of united kingdom?

Greece wasn't a country back then.
Neither was the united kingdom.

Modern greece covers the geographical area of Sparta and Athens today though.
Just like the UK covers the geographical area of England and the Boudican Celts.

>>152991084
>So, Spain looks pretty awesome!
It was weird to me that Spain only hit Civ V in a DLC pack.

In a list of the top ten most influential nations to have ever existed, Spain would rank... what? 3rd or 4th? They held dominion over most of Central and South America and had one of the largest empires the world has ever seen.

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>enemy CIV declares war on me
>fight back and take a SINGLE city
>all other players denounce me as a war monger
>Denmark is my only friend

I built some roads to his capital and the guy never bothered me again. Weird.

>>152992934
I suppose that's true, but I think that I'd prefer multiple leaders for the nations.

More options are better than fewer, yes?

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>special agent and 2 spy defensive buildings
>stone age retard still steals technology from that city

absolutely ebin

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>>152991472
>additional leader DLC
>additional Civs DLC
>additional leaders for additional Civs DLC

>>152993245
>but I think that I'd prefer multiple leaders for the nations.
Could be nice as a setup mechanic.

Even having a few different UUs to pick from and such, like slots.

Say you're america you have the leader slot that you have a few options for, you have the district slot where you have two options, and so on.

>More options are better than fewer, yes?
Not necessarily.
Quality over quantity, depth over width.

With too many options you might just feel overwhelmed and don't pick anything at all.

>i can't vote no against someone becoming a world leader

just got meme'd on by a rich AI who bought all the city states

>>152996507
Now you know what it feels like to be the DPRK.

Who recommended Thea earlier? I'm trying the demo and I'm getting my ass kicked.

How do I heal my people? I tried having them idling, they don't heal.

>>152996613
seeing how 3 of my cities were starving I'm certainly following in their footsteps

>>152996639
I think you have to move them to your village, perhaps you need a certain villager (healer) too

>>152997137
Nevermind, I found. I had to put her into idling and she regenerated. For the one in expeditions, they have to camp.

Finding ressources is a pain, though.

Hey guys, after playing about 40 hours of Stellaris on the first patch, I set it aside to wait until it gets fun.

Has it done so yet?

>>152997743
Not without mods

>>152997309
>Finding ressources is a pain, though.

yeah, that game has a tendency to put resources comically far away. I have to say though, the amount of play choices and the lore is really nice

>>152997954
Is there actually any good mods yet? I got probation from Paradox forums but it seems like the ones on the Workshop are all kind of shit, and the archive is just a bunch of numbers.

Tried playing my first Stellaris game the other day. Thought I was doing okay until I encountered eight other races in quick succession and they were all listed as overwhelmingly more powerful than I was. I made some dumb choices early on for my species, like being generally unlikable, so everyone hated me too. A few hours later I'd managed to equalize in the middle of the power scale somewhere, but that's about where I stayed since I was boxed in and couldn't expand without warring and the game basically stopped moving entirely for the next four hours.

Any recommendations or tips for good traits and flaws for the race? A good way to play so I don't fall behind the curve? Should I lower the number of races in the galaxy so the map isn't a cluttered, squashed mess of tiny empires?

>>152997982
Maybe. But so far I'm having problem finding each villagers are wounded, because the gathering/crafting screen doesn't say which one is wounded.

And expeditions are really shit at gathering ressources. Unless I'm playing wrong.

Are expeditions supposed to just murder shit, or going around and gathering rare shit?

>>152998180
The star trek one is kind of fun if you like that kind of thing

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>>152996507
'diplomatic' victory is actually economic victory ;^)

>>152998208
>And expeditions are really shit at gathering ressources. Unless I'm playing wrong.
are you using the right type of villager on the right resources, for example gathers on wood? Also if I'm not mistaken you can build tools that makes them gather more

>Are expeditions supposed to just murder shit, or going around and gathering rare shit?
depends, if there is a billion monsters spawning right outside the village you should clear the spawns so you can gather in relavtive peace. Otherwise I prefer to explore ruins and such

damn, very strong only costs 3 points now

>>152998434
all victories are basically hording production and money and branching into what you want

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>that one asshole civilization who is going culture as well so it takes you 50 turns in the end-game to get them wearing your blue jeans

>>152999216
Ha, so villagers are specialized.
Of course.

I'm playing the demo, which is basically early access, has the game really changed since? Because there are many flaws in the UI that I'm worried about. Like most of the stuff being unreadable because it doesn't scale to the small resolution.

>>153000237
what a waste of good repeating digits

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>>153000237
What's up with you faggots? You're in every thread on every goddamned board. Just linking stupid posts because of some numbers. You think someone cares? You think someone gives a damn about your autistic little ritual?

>>152993245
That's what we're getting. Multiple leaders have been confirmed, and even if they hadn't everything about the game implies it.

Firaxis have made questionable civ choices but two of the same nation as seperate slots would be bonkers even for them.

>>153000470
Yes.

>>153000470
Yes.

>>152999551
Sure, but buying city states is a direct result of having lots of gold.

And having most city states equals being elected as leader of the world.

>>152980927
which mods you running mate?

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Thinking of playing as space elves.

Then modifying my elves ot become the perfect leaders.

Also planting Dwarves and such that can be modified into perfect miners/soldiers and so on.

May not need unique baselines for all of the others.
Only Goblin is done so far, but it shares the baseline with Humans and Gnomes at least.


Total Racial Points can go up to 4.
So dwarves and elves technically have 1 trait point to spare.
Maybe charismatic for dwarves, to boost happiness of halfling farmers on the mining worlds.
Having 1 spare point is nice for changing world preference though.

>standard map
>22 civs and 12 city states
>try to play peaceful victory

always a good time

>>153001761
futuristic/modern (using the proper historical definition of modern aka 1500-today) fantasy is my fetish. Shame no (4x) game really does this well.
I just want my elven armor divisions

>>153002889
AoW3 dude.

>>153001425
Vox Populi, among others, but Vox Populi is probably the one you're interested in.
By the way, it turns out I missed one of his cities. Once I took that city he agreed to becoming my vassal.

>>153003064
fair enough, at least for early modern age/steampunkesque. I have to do a elf dreadnought game soon. A bit unoptimized perhaps but surely fun

>>153003064
Shame high tier units are too good.
I think the powerlevels between tiers would be more okay if you could have more units in each stack so you can overwhelm the stronger units.

Having a swarm of goblin musketeers with a few flame tanks was fun, less fun knowing that I could win much more easily if I just grabbed a stack of juggernauts.

>>153003313
My problem with the tiers is that you tech up way too quickly so there is no room for any t1 or even most t2.

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Something like this I think.
Shame when I genemod the main species(elves), they won't count as the main species anymore.
Otherwise I could use the "only main species as leaders" to keep the leader pool cleaner.

1 Spare points on non gobbos, so I can change world preference I guess.

I want mixed planets so nomadic is useful.
Ideally I'd colonize with a halfling ship.

Collectivist-Xenophile probably.
Collectivist so I can purge if necessary, xenophile for the happiness bonus on the mixed planets.

>get Star Ruler 2's expansion on Steam two days ago
>now it's on sales on GoG
Well, since I got SR2 for free, I probably shouldn't complain too much.

i would run a train on maria's pig body

>>153005340
Nobody like Maria.

>AI ask me to stop buying land near them
>tell them to fuck right off
>get punished later in the game for "not keeping my promise"

I didn't promise anything.

>>153006963
my dick can go for anything wearing a corset

Still with Thea, how do I increase my settlement's area of influence?
And as a rule of thumb, how many rations do I need to usually pick? It's one per person per turn, right?

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>>153009320
You rang?

Anyone here playing Supreme Commander could help me?

>>153011430
anything

>>153012254
What do you want to know?

Morroco's Kasbahs are overpowered. +1 food +1 money +1 production. I build them on almost every tile and I'm shitting out units.

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>>153012305
Oh, my.

Me gusta.

>>153012420
I can do okay in skirmish in Forged Alliance against normal and even hard AI, but the campaign kicks my ass.

>>153012645
The AI cheats in the campaign missions. You have to turtle hard.

>>153013009
I'm always rushed by time in the campaign. I start the first mission, okay. Then suddenly I have to pierce a blocus and assist civilians who are attacked before I had time to develop properly, and then I'm supposed to take down the enemy commander.

Seven Kingdoms 2 Anon here.
I'm going to bed, try to keep that thread alive, okay?

>>153013212
Campaign is heavily scripted. You can abuse this to build up before triggering the next step in a mission.

>>153013212
turtle hard, do not scout

scouting tends to trigger events
if all else fails, savescum like a motherfucker to find out how to trick the AI

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How useful do you think China's wall building ability is going to be? I mean, I like it on paper, but I just can't see myself building an empire-spanning wall, especially since it takes up valuable hexes. And I doubt the bonuses will make up for it either.

>>153015335
>it takes up hexes
>doesn't act like a road instead

it's already shit

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>don't get Notre Dame in time
>can't build new cities until I can get Order

If you're not too bothered about Civ 6's art direction, it seems to be shaping up into a pretty neat game. Big fan of improved city states, great people and governments.

I'll miss the gorgeous wonder artwork and pretty icons though. RIP.

>>153015335
>meme walls
>useful
good for tall turtle empires maybe

>>153016676
the art is shit but really such a small part of the game. The rest pretty hyped for.

Is there a negative penalty for telling "friends" that want all my money for free to fuck off?

>>153018320
Yes
You need to be genriss

>>153015831
Aristocracy and meritocracy gives global happiness.

>>153018320
uh you don't get to bring friends

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>AI CIV burning a city to the ground
>offer to buy it from them
>"there's no way for this deal to work"

>>153015335
MAKE
THE
MONGOLS
PAY
FOR
IT

>>153015335

I mean, can't you just build the wall at the hexes that are more than 3 moves away aka the ones that aren't workable? It seems like it would be quite strong for building tall and detracting your neighbors from wanting to target you.

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>>153022617
>chinks built a wall
>didn't even make the mongols pay for it
>got steamrolled by them anyway

>>153015335
>>153022617
>>153024227
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afnJbdT4t5g

>tfw if civ 6 isnt good ill probably lose all faith in firaxis ever giving a good product on release

>>153024738
Are you ready for toned down versions of the Civilization 5 expansion mechanics? That they'll improve on in DLC?

>>153015335
I want to know what it looks like if you build three in adjacent tiles instead of just two.

So how about them 4x eh?

>>152985284
>letting the scourge get that far
>not going full tachyon murder swarm
>not building a fuck load of fortresses with sub space snares and watch them warp right into a kill zne of 3+ fortresses of nothing but death and mines

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>be chilling out in my empire researching and shit
>suddenly fanatical purifiers declare war on me
>defend myself and protect my galaxy by wiping them out
>somehow I'M the bad guy

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>>153031450
>Same story every thread
I appreciate the bump, though.

so i heard that stellaris is as wide as a river but deep as a puddle. is that true?

>>153031957
it's not very wide either...

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Is it ok if we talk about the MoO remake here?

It's kind of impossible to have a decent thread about it on /v/ right now.

>>153031957
Music and graphism make it comfy
But at the end of the day all you do is macro up, build a big blob of spaceships and run a train on your neighbours

>>153033737
>robot tits
What is this game?

>>153033737
Sure, go ahead
Fuck those giant space creatures

>>153034238

The title is right there in the image you mong.

>>153034392

Aggravating ass space monsters are a staple of the old games. I would've been disappointed if they WEREN'T included.

It sure fucking sucks though when you start a game and all the nearby systems have an Eel or Dragon though. Shit can royally fuck over your expansion and make it nigh impossible to compete with some of the conquest focused races.

>>153034413
how's the 4x bro

with 4gb ram, 220 nvidia 1gb vcard,and i5 dual core 2.98,id be able to run civ6,or should i upgrade?

>>153034578
Depends on what you want out of it.

It's pretty simplified compared to other 4x games, but I don't consider that a bad thing.
Combat is automatic or real-time based on what you choose, and for some guys this is a deal breaker. The presentation though is top-tier since they were able to hire a bunch of big name voice actors for the faction leaders. Mark Hamill, Robert Englund and the guy who played Q in Star Trek all voice faction leaders. The GNN broadcasts are full voiced too. Oh, and Michael Dorn(Worf) does the narrating, but a good chunk of his stuff sounds pretty phoned in.

Don't feel bad about pirating it either, since Wargaming makes more than enough money of that shitfest that is World of Tanks.

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>>153034568
>royally fuck you over
well duh
but it makes it so much sweeter when you finally defeat it/them
Also is it normal for Humans to expand so rapidly?

>>153035246
just poke holes in their condoms, easy

>>153035246
All the races expand pretty fast. Dealing with the Bulrathi on hard or above can be a real fucking nightmare.

Nothing is more satisfying than going full genocider though and nuking their furfag colonies into oblivion.

>>153034842
You should've upgraded years ago.

If you can afford to hole away $500 or so, you can build an entirely new rig that will run circles around that setup.

Are Guradian Point Defense and Flak Cannon 2s worth using or nah? If so, how many is good to help cover a fleet?

>>153034842
CPU and ram is going to fuck you the most.

>>153035583
Thats what I am going to do when I get my first Battleship
genocide the egyptian furries
Also what tech is needed to change the gravity of a planet?

So if I like a basic ass 4X like Civ 5, what else would I enjoy?

>>153015831
>not going autocracy and getting +1 happiness for every arsenal barracks armory krepost castle and military academy

>>153037780
Those are usually the last things I build unless someone is going to give me the business.

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Are other factions always so whiny wwhen it comes to bioweapons?

>>152993602
the secret is to make your science center somewhere other than your capital

>>153038794
do ai only send spies to the capital?

>>153036763
Antigrav and/or Terraforming iirc.

>>153039117
nope, but I find they tend to go to the capital as a priority, your second city (regardless of size) as a second priority, third city third, etc. I've only ever had stuff stolen from my first few cities.

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>blitzkrieg 3

>>153035246
Since Starcraft, I see the term Terran everywhere.

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Do people prefer BNW culture victory conditions over Vanilla and GnK's?

>>153038569
They're all giant fucking hypocrites.

Each one of them will get pissy about spies, while simultaneously going out of their way to sabotage every colony you have.

Just go Terran/Klackon on exterminate them en masse.

The game is fun, but diplomacy is largely a waste of time.

>>153040037
I like it but if anyone else goes for culture it basically becomes a technology race anyways.

>>153040037
How the hell do you actually win one on higher difficulties?

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>>153024227

>The great wall we are familiar with isn't even the original, but rather a Ming era one
>And it still wasn't able to stop the mongols 2.0 electric manchuluu.

Chinese walls not very stronk.

If another Empire kills NPC ships am I cucked out of upgrade from salvage?

>>153034842
16gb ram is standard now, get with the times

>>153041527
16 gigs of ddr 2 right :^)

>Hills provide +25% CS when defending in Civ 5
>Forest/Jungles also provide +25% CS when defending
Can't check right now but do these bonuses stack when it comes to a hill with forest or jungle?

>>153040032
>SC invented Terran
it basically means human or earthling so you should fucking see it everywhere

>>153042492
I pick "things I never said" for 10$.

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Time to melt some ships

>>153043023
you know what to do

>>153043023
Is this game even good

>>153043571
kinda
pirate it if you want to try it

>>153041527
No game uses half of that

>>153043839
8 is common enough in modern games, 16 is uncommon, 32 is a meme

>>153043571

It's considerably better than Stellaris or Endless Space.

As a 4x game on it's own, it's passable but nothing revolutionary.

>>153043979
i mean i only play CIV 5 so I'm sure it's fine. how buggy is 1.0?

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>>153027907
I didn't have any of those things

>>153042492
Why aren't humans referred to as Solan or Solarian as much? I mean we're from the Sol system and seem to name lots of other space races from the system they're from.

>>153044110

A cpl crashes here and there depending on your system, but nothing major.

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>>152985284
And here I thought I fucked up.

Cool story though.

>>152987731
sea towns?

Best Military station setup for maximum defense/pain?

2 Fortresses, one with Bombers and snare and the other with Lances.

1 Fortress and 2 Defense stations, Fortress with snare and stations with lances.

I can't really tell for sure if the lances are in range or not though.

>>153046036
Snare?

Any fun spess 4x games apart from Stellaris out there?

>>153048271
DISTANT WORLDS

YOU CAN PLAY AS A PIRATE KING

A PIRAAAAAAAATE KING
IN SPAAAAAACE

>>153048271
Distant Worlds is the best and will continue to be the best. Paradox had a chance with Stellaris, but they squandered it.

friendly tip that Stardock's catalogue is on for up to 75% off on steam.

GalCiv 3 is down 66%. Anyone heard anything new about it? All I read/saw was that it was almost entirely GC2 with a new coat of paint but I was hoping someone here might have it to offer a different perspective.
looking at the review score its DLCs they're all mixed/negative so I have a feeling it bombed hard.

>>153048747
I have GalCiv2 but I never played it.

>>153048747
It pretty much is just galciv2 with a new coat of paint, doesn't really play any different from what I remember. Galaxy sizes can be a alot bigger I think

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>>153048747
>GalCiv 3 is down 66%. Anyone heard anything new about it?
Nothing good.

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>tfw no /wgg/

>>153049003
just post your wargames here friend

>>153048521
>>153048507
>$73.99
Guess i'm waiting for the next steam sale then

>>153048931
>just lock disobedient workers in a room with them
That's incredibly pettily evil. I like it.

>>153049151
http://pastebin.com/Q9vyjmYA

>>153049090
t.bh I'm just a red dragon newbie who wants someone to call their deck shit, I don't have a whole lot to contribute. I don't really get why /wgg/ is dead though, it's a fairly active game that requires a above average level of autism, and the player base is for the most part virulently racist, on paper it sounds like it would thrive here.

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>>153049250
>evil
Such a petty understanding of morality would never survive hard contact with xeno-filth.

>>153049280
I don't have any idea why the general died, maybe because the devs abandoned it in favour for their RTS (which I consider fair to discuss here as well), that it was somewhat unbalanced or some other reason. I spent most of my time jerking off to the models rather than playing the actual game since I for some reason got disconnected 5 minutes in every fucking match

>>153049395
>neutral is actually named pragmatic
I like that.

I should reinstall GalCiv2.

>>153049690
That's 3

>>153049690
That's 3.

>>153049745
I remember a similar system in the second.

>>153049759
I remember a similar system in the second.

>>153049825
It was called neutral in the second one

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>>153048808
really? It's actually alright. I have to play it again now that I have a better grasp of 4X but I had fun with it.

>>153048931
>>153048930
I figured. I remember Stardock explicitly stating they want even bigger galaxy sizes for whatever reason. Giant was already hard to manage, massive was just impossible to play.

Okay, let's check in on how the global corporations running Earth are doing.

Plenty of stuff as I recall from last posting. The third shipyard has been completed as well as some research centers, and humanity has finally started mining asteroids and comets. I've filled in some command roles that needed attending to.
Anyways. On to the eventual conquest of the stars.

>>153049870
Ha shit.

>>153049936
I tried it once, the UI was clunky and unpleasant and there was no tutorial. I quickly gave up, especially since I had DISTANT WORLDS at this time.

>>153048521
I dunno man, I tried to get into it but it felt like I was just kind of rubber-stamping my AI's suggestions more often than not and issuing broad orders to my fleet, didn't feel like there was a lot of compelling strategy involved.

>>153049640
>devs abandoned it
There's a new DLC coming out in a few days and more coming after, I wouldn't say they've abandoned it.

I too spend a disproportionate amount of time making decks and wanking over T-55s

>>153050247
>new DLC
source? I can't find anything

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Where should I settle after this city has finished razing?

Being next to the mountain would be nice for observatory, but then I won't get sri pada or be on the coast.

I'm tempted to settle one tile to the right of where the city is now.

>>153050480
http://www.eugensystems.com/the-votes-are-in-and-the-next-wargame-red-dragon-nation-pack-is/

*rubs hands*

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>>153050659
on the island

because island cities are aesthetic

>>153050795
huh, so Israel, Yugoslavia and Finland (as fucking redfor, ree). Neat

>>153045862
Uh, what? You're going to have to elaborate.

Any way in Stellaris to make a trait specific for one species only?

I.E, not gene modifyable at later stages, not something AI can randomly spawn with, etc etc. I've been having trouble accomplishing this.

I've been thinking about getting an SSD to improve Civ turn times in the later game.

Is it actually worth it? Does it shorten the load noticeably?

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>>153049986
yeah, I guess GC2 really didn't have a tutorial. The campaign sort of worked as one, barely.

>>153049936
So a few major things have happened. One shipyard has reached a slipway capacity of 100k which is quite impressive. The second commercial shipyard finished a second slipway and is now working on a third while at the same time constructing additional freighters.

Since Mass Drivers work exceptionally well with Automated Mines on comets, the board has decided to exploit this functionality. At the moment our industrial queue is overloaded with other facilities but when the time comes, a fleet of freighters can haul the mines over to be constructed and act as remote, always-on sources of resources.

In the meantime, various other empire activities have been going on, nothing of terrible note. Apparently an officer was diagnosed with terminal cancer.

he probably played world of tanks

>>153051109
Nope!

>>153043979
It sort of looks like a StarDrive 2 clone. Is this accurate?

>>153051109
Modding?

Look how Uplifted, Robot traits are written.
And reverse engineer them.

>>153051218
>spoiler

I was thinking about starting because they apparently addedswedish tanks

>>153051335
That's a fantastic idea. Holy fuck why didn't I think of robots. I'll give it a go and see if it works.

How the fuck do I even play Thea?

>>153051271
given the original master of orion was a pioneer of the sci-fi 4X genre, technically everything is a clone of MoO.

>>153051335
I personally love that about Paradox's games. I did it myself in HoI3 when I tried to make a decision to have Trotsky counter-revolutionaries overthrow Stalin's regime.

didn't get far. not for lack of trying--it worked. I just don't know a lot about the communist movements there to fill in the details so it was just a 'get rid of Stalin' button.
>>153051408
a couple Totally Neutral Guys tanks were added. pretty sure all are prem, fit right in the median of balance for medium tanks but with godlike gun depression. but check yourself I'm likely wrong as I haven't actively played in about four months.

>>153051516
you lose horribly as you get slightly better each time you lose until you win.
There is a reason the game is niched

>>153051647
No, I mean. I start with a basic expedition, but they're all fighters. How do I know if a scrub is good at gathering, crafting or killing? How the hell does the health system work? I had everyone at 0 health but nobody died.

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>Find Sol system
>Tomb World where Earth should be
>Coakroaches

Amazing, never seen this before

>>153051887
How come turkey took over earth anyway?

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>>153049151
>waiting for the next steam sale then

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>tfw i just noticed swordsman units look different depending on the civ

Neat.

>>153052456
FINALLY

>>153052456
This was found like the moment they released the first screenshots lad, you're way behind

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>we begged RTS players to come in when we were dying
>now that Civ6 is announced and we have stuff to talk about, idiots want the RTSfags to go away

>>153052456
Yeah, I'm really glad they're having different unit models for civs now. I've always enjoyed using the Ethnic Units mod for Civ 5.

>>153052094
>tfw Order of Ak-bar race of Turk-men from Tur-key declares war on you for not converting to their divine mandate

Roaches!

>>153052456
Less see if they did that for all units or only for early eras

>>153052702
That would explain why there are so few civs available.

>>153052667
They're newfags and/or shitposters

>>153052456
its just a shame that it only seems to extend to pikemen. knights have the same model for every civ, and so does anything beyond that, which is a damn shame. they could have been really creative.
its also not ~every~ unit in early eras, boats look the same, for example.
>>153052747
18 civs isnt a small amount, its the same as base civ 5.

>>153052809
I thought it was 2 leaders per civs, for a total of 9 nations? I misunderstood?

>>153052667
While we are at it, why don't we shitpost at anyone who plays 4x games that we don't personally approve of?

>>153052863
you misunderstood completely.
http://well-of-souls.com/civ/civ6_overview.html#civilizations

>>153052870
There are 4x we don't approve?

>>153052929
Oh, okay. I probably confused it with Sins or something.

>>153051887
It's the only earth I've found.

Always tomb world preference, always Adaptive.

I think their Presentient trait can differ though, what did you get?
I got Proles which was a shame considering you want good research for those who can live on tomb worlds.

>>153052952
>There are 4x we don't approve?
Of course. You have a favorite 4x game, right? Well every other 4x game that you don't like, have never played, or turned out worse than you expected is a game you can shitpost about whenever someone implies they are enjoying it.

>>153051887
HA, 10/10.

>>153052094
with its religion of peace of course :^)

>>153051218
A couple research labs are open, and after some deliberation and a bit of math, the director's have ordered research into stronger EM sensors. The outcome of better sensors increases would increase the range of every suite used on our ships by nearly a THIRD as opposed to increasing just the strength which would allot a mere ten percent increase.

Meanwhile, the rest of the empire putters along soundly. Yet another commercial shipyard is under construction in anticipation of a hopefully vast private network of freighters. It is an investment into the future.

>>153052667
>>we begged RTS players to come in when we were dying
"we"

>>153052870
>Civ5
Why aren't you playing the superior civ4 anon?

>>153053085
So I guess I hate all the Endless games. And the Sword of the Stars games.

>>153053108
>Civ 4
>not playing Civ 3

>>153053267
Perfect. You shitpost incessantly when anyone mentions Endless or Sowrd of the Stars games. The people who prefer those games will do that to other games. This general will die. And we can all be happy with ourselves for doing our duty.

>>153053034
I got irradiated, which is pretty shit considering they're tomb world preference to begin with. I guess it's better than a tech malus in exchange for a minerals buff I can use robots for anyway.

>>153052094
kek

>>153053515
>Civ: III babies
>not playing patrician Civ 2
You should just stop posting now.

How do you play Broken lords? Set all your population to dust from the start of the game or change them to dust as the time goes? Go wide early game, or have a few cities and then conquer all? Build any wonders? Prioritize only dust techs?

>>153052667
shut the fuck up rts is cool

>>153053556
Okay.

>>153053768
>playing Endless Legend
REEEEEEEEEE GET OUT NORMIE
You literally buy pop, and you can't get food, so put 75% of your pop in dust until you build enough improvements.

>>153053827
I'm so proud of you.

Now let's bitch about how this general is dying.

>>153053584
>I guess it's better than a tech malus in exchange for a minerals buff I can use robots for anyway.
Yeah that's true.

Ideally I think you'd want Natural Intellectuals for radroaches.
Basically three tiers for tomb world research roaches
>Natural Intellectuals
>Others
>Proles, Starborn


Starborn with Tomb World preference would be funny for different reasons though.
Slapping nomadic on them and let them spread everywhere.

>>153053954
Do we blame RTSfags for that too?

>>153054062
That sounds in order.

>>153051216
I don't see how a SSD would help with this. Unless I'm missing something here it seems unlikely that the late-game turn delay is caused by a I/O bottleneck with the hard drive.

>>152997309
Play it on smaller maps, restart until you have food and fuel in city range, prioritizeresearching and making good gathering tools first

Its also nice to end the turn in range of some easy to gather food or fuel and take it in one day.

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>>153054062
obviously. its always someone else's fault.

>>153053768
go max dust output for OP Lords. building and research don't matter if you can't put any people into them. hit up the dust improvements right away in your research path. try not to get into trouble, parrrrley minors if you can but if they give you a shit quest kill them.

personal experience anyways, your mileage may vary.

>>153053101
Macholz is on its return trip, so its time to place a few automated mines on the surface. Cargo Task Group has been augmented with additional freighters to cut down on the number of trips; each way one mine is delivered. It is a slow and steady process.


my hauling is augmented

>>153054548
Okay, I'll try that.

>>153054663
>playing that game
REEEEEEEE

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>still no empire borders for mac

>>153012631
>literally clash of clans

Whats the fastest way to get ai civs to want a surrender?
I have a superior army and nukes

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>>153034842
Before anyone asks, the trion 100 is my win7 ssd and the trion 150 the win10 containment ssd. both oem sticker lincenses for 20 yuros

>>153040527
exterminate the competitors, naturally :^)

>>153053961
>Starborn with Tomb World preference would be funny for different reasons though
Yeah, I've also bumped into 4 tomb worlds already so I might given them nomadic/rapid breeders for the glory of the Galactic Radroach Infestate.

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>>153055346
>containment for W10
you're doing god's work anon.

>>153054709
auREEra? auroREE? I think auroREE rolls a little better.

>>153054663
The director's had a 'brilliant' idea; why not re-organize the army, and train a few construction brigades to set the basics up on Mars first?
In hindsight it is an obvious solution, which I have put into motion. First it will require some Brigade HQs and research into Divisional HQs but that will come in time. Right now, there's still the issue of Uridium and Gallicite depleting in just over five years.
I expect asteroid mining with mass driver delivery will maintain our production for now.

However, my ambitions are set on Venus. A cruel world, but it can be tamed with time and effort.

>>153055707
>4 hiveworlds, spewing out endless roaches to infest and bring down the rest of the galaxy
It's like a satire or something

>>153055731
this was before the free upgrade period ended
>get cheap 7 license from some oem sticker shop
>activate and "upgrade" to 10
>leave it at that
now i'm literally settled for the moment a game i really want is only supporting UWP.
not that that's gonna happen anytime soon, everyone but microsoft-owned studios regularly shit on w10

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>>153055731
Interesting. Either Opportunity is on the far side of the system, or--
Welp. I guess that's why it can't find acceptable survey targets.

>>153055973
my laptop could've upgraded. I should've taken the freebie, but I'm not too upset by it.
it also went through 4 years of college, and 3 of virtualizing 2 servers on the regular. its basically dead.

>>153056228
>hale-bopp
This is my comet waifu

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>>153055057
kill their armies and fleets
nuke their cities

>>153056228
You can still upgrade for free.

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>>153056870
oh shiny. I might do that then if only to get experience with it.

>>153056228
Opportunity might not make it home. I will assemble a rescue ship immediately.

>>153057430
Why the fuck does it need fuel? It should just be drifting back into the gravity well.

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>>153057639
hand-wavey-engine reasons I guess. Aurora isn't really hard SF.

>>153057430
Likely running on fumes, Opportunity managed to get home safe. I have already begun production of tanker ships however. This will ease the expansion of the board's interest in the future.

>>153056228
>2016
>Not having Shoemaker-Levy as your cometfu
baka tbqph fampai

>>153058168
fuck was >>153056273
Also since when was shaking your head filtered?

>>153058275
I think it always was
baka desu senpai
Anyway Hale-bopp is a qt

>>153053768

you are THE wide faction, also you're more oriented at bum rushing people early then anyone else

>>153040546
They didn't siege the wall.

>>153053515
Civ 4 is categorically better than Civ 3.

>>153053630
Civ 2 is also good but I can't get into it any more, I've been too spoiled by modern stuff.

I like some 4x games. What are some good ones I haven't played?

>>153062602
Civ IV with Caveman 2 Cosmos

>>153062726
I said good ones!

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>>153062896
You're not a very nice person are you

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>>153063231
There there momma didn't mean to shout. She forget her boy is so thin skinned at times. Such a sensitive little boy.

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>>153063464
>implying I'm your son
But I want to be the lewd oneechan...

>>153063464
Pls no bully.

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>>153063581
We can play dress ups if you like dearest. Momma loves to roleplay.

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>>153063865
But I'm not into okaa-san shit.

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>>153063941
Don't be rude and respect your momma's wishes. So disobedient.

>>153060735
yeah. yeah it is. After trying Civ 4 again the other day, its much improved many mechanics.

I just hate everything about the UI and the art style.
Yeah it's early 3d but jesus fucking christ does it have to look like I'm playing an N64 title?
The UI is before 'UX' was really a thing so its understandable that's it would be clunky but it is really, really atrocious.

I know its false, but I do like to shitpost about Civ3 being better anyways

anyone play galactic civilizations 3? currently on sale on steam, wondering if its worth picking up? ive only ever played one other space 4x, endless space, and i enjoyed it quite a bit.

tfw MoO remake sucks dick and not qtpie feminine fag dicks but giant veiny smegma black dicks

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>>153052667
literally who is chasing away RTS? It's not happening.

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>>153053768
>Prioritize only dust techs?
Naturally.

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>>153058102
so I have a question about Aurora. I'm trying to get the civvies to move these facilities from Earth out.
I've subsidized the only private shipping industry quite a lot over the years but they haven't built a single ship.

Do I need to put construction brigades on Mars for them to actually move the parts there? Or am I retarded and still missing something?

>>153064563
check out replies around >>153048747

>>153056775
>that edit
i absolutely refuse to take part in this gandhi circlejerk. nuclear gandhi is literally the most plebbit meme of all, just a little worse than fucking rage comics.

haha guys
ghandi isn't a peacekeeper he's a nuclear warmonger
haha

Anyway, who MoO remake here?

>>153065609
Rage comics are literally 4chan stuff though.
>nuclear gandhi...plebbit meme
It's not. It's an official meme.

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>bonus attacking wounded units
>heal when killing an enemy unit
>produce a duplicate unit whenever you make light cavalry or horse archers
>horse archers don't require horses

what the fuck were they thinking? this game is going to be horribly unbalanced like civ 5 isn't it?

>>153065280
yeah i saw that right after i posted. guess ill wait for a stellaris sale or something

>>153065658
Is it good?

New to EL here:

If someone has infiltrated one of my cities, can he just keep decreasing my population? That seems like a shitty mechanic.

>>153067171
No, but it isn't bad either. It's mediocre and pretty atmospheric for how shallow it is.

>>153067472
Hits it pretty much one the head.
There is the stuff you would expect, not that much more though, everything feels pretty polished.

Game could turn out to be great imho (1-2 expansions down the line).

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So, which 4x lets me play as mechanicus?

>>153049271
>http://pastebin.com/Q9vyjmYA

So, uh ... is it just me, or is this link broken for real?

>>153065079
Last thread.

>>153065609
Rage comics were 4chan stuff before reddit made it a meme.

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Why cant i buy this tile

is there some cant buy near a city state rule ive been missing cause ive been able to before

>>153064143
you have such a mean son, motherplay is the best

breastfeeding during sex when

>>153065609
Nothing reddit about it, Gandhi went nuclear in civ 2 because of how aggression levels were programmed (he was so peaceful his aggression level went negative in the middle of the game, which caused it to actually overflow to the maximum possible amount, making him the most aggressive AI by far), and they just kept him like this afterwards.

>>153069067

Okay, that's: are the links on this link broken - should've been more specific.

>>152992340
its got nothing to do with victories, all the trade with ai deals and production times arent scaled properly for the change in time making it a joke

>>153069432
for reference, i got it in the end but had to buy the desert tile.

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>>153040032
>>153042492

More like coined by Starship Troopers (the 1959 novel). After that all militaristic human civilizations were Terran in scifi culture.

>>153070930
I don't remember the novel ever using that term.
I wonder if the translation removed it.

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>>153070930

Don't forget the terrans in The Original Star Trek, episode "Mirror, mirror" :P

>tfw you can rotate the game in civ 6

>>153072502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nMO2atf-RM&feature=youtu.be&t=1h48m51s
its old footage but someone just linked it on leddit at 1:48:51. seems you can hold right click to rotate the view, but it snaps back in place whenever you release.

>>153053034
I've seen Earth in WW2, the armies have unique names

>>153069608
>spoiler
The best.

>>153063464
>>153063865
>>153064143
>son
It's obviously a daughter and that's why she's so angry

>>153065906
Just be honorable and you won't have a problem.

>>153075601
But in multiplayer they'll be like Huns on steroids

>>153053630
>tfw i still have a cd with civ 1
but it's not that fun to play, civ 2 is better especially the ww2 scenario

>>153075930
IDK much about multiplayer, but I would imagine if she is your neighbor and if there is an attack penalty for horses against cities then just give all your units anti-mounted promotions and you should be good.

But yeah, it sounds like it could easily be balanced wrong and ruin multiplayer.

>Ghandi
>kill Zulus asap
>Ottomans mad
>kill Ottomans
>rest of world ok with it because the Ottomans were pricks
>begin steamrolling through nations with my moderately-sized but elite navy
>nations do nothing to stop me except denounce me
>arrive on their doorstep and shell the fuck out of their towns, conquer
>they never have any troops built to defend their borders

I hope that civ 6 fixes the shitty AI that is polarized between doing fuck all except wonder whoring and going hue hue i war u

>>153077912
>hue hue i war u
?

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>>153069432
guys why are you all playing in F10 mode, are you really that autistic?

Other question. Is it a great step from Immortal to deity? Is it possible to win on deity without meme strategies?

>>153077912
play on higher difficulty, they always have an army on 6+

>>153079162
It's a fine line - I'm on 6 at the minute, I find that if I go much higher then the AI gets ridiculous free resources.

>>153078202
Meaning that the AI is a warmonger.

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>>153065710

>>153079962
100% accurate

>>153069432

Thank God they're making the strategic view (or whatever it was called) better in Civ 6. Might actually use it a little.

>>153079541
>I find that if I go much higher then the AI gets ridiculous free resources.
Yeah that's one of the reasons I don't like the higher difficulties, just giving the ai a bunch of free shit doesn't feel like its making the game more challenging, just feels like the ai is cheating because it can.

>>153069872
>civ2
Try the original m8

>>153080612
Many games are like that. Just try Empire Earth.

What mods can I download that'll fix Stellaris?

Also when's heinliein supposed to drop?

>>153051887
I got this in my very first game as Terrans so there was a second Earth in the universe???

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>put 80 hours on stellaris straight from release and don't feel like playing again until all the updates are in
>don't want to start a new civ 5 game for fear of burning myself out
>civ 6 is still two months away
>mfw

>>153079005
Realtalk, is there ever any reason why you should ever conquer city-states? It just seems like shooting yourself in the foot.

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>playing modded Stellaris
>VOLTAGE starts playing
Aw yiss motherfucka.

>>153048931

>No hire the ghosts to work for you as scabs and strikebreakers.
> +10 pragmatic -15% approval +5 Manufacturing +5 spoopy

>>153086085
>ghosts in sci-fi
I'd like to see that.

>>153085438
What is this VOLTAGE you speak of?

>>153086953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN25-kChu1w

A song that seems to go very well with space.

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Is sins of a solar empire allowed here or is it too much of
>muh rts

>>153087474
Ragnarov 4lyfe

>>153087474
It's okay.

>>153087474
post away and let the >m-muh pure thread faggots whine

>>153087474
Well since this is also the refuge of the dead rts general it's fine on both the 4x and rts counts.

>>153087474
go ahead

>>153087474

Big fan of Sins, and I think it has enough 4x in it to qualify. Haven't played in years though.

>>153087474
I would like sins more if I could play past an hour before the fps starts dying since it has a 2 gb limit.

>>153067262
Increase your security and perform a roundup for them. You'll sacrifice output while you search but you can kill the spy. Alternately if it's an AI just get into peace with them.

>>153088021
There's a way to unlock that limit which some mods provide in their downloads so their mods can run.

Is the ECM jammer in the new MOO AoE or just one ship ability?

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>>153086324
>I'd like to see that.
You sure? Boo.

>>153087474
Sins 2 never.

>>153053768
first get citizens to industry, you switch to Dust once every citizen is worth something like 11 Dust Per Turn.
This is a rule of the thumb I read somewhere