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/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #347

Too Easy Edition

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The following players will have a boosted rate during the following weekend(s):

Aug. 26th - Aug. 27th: Kyoko, Cynthia, Linmay, Dynames, Ronald, Baltheon, Serestia

Sep. 2nd - Sep. 3rd: Kevin, Z077 Cashlove, Magnus, Kei, Lindberg, Shu, Jiho

Current events:
Video Sharing Event: 8/12 - 8/31
Let's make a Soccer Ball!: 8/18 - 9/1
Hot Summer Scouting Event: 8/18 - 9/2
Swimsuit Eve Purchase Event: 8/21 - 8/28
Elise Season Scouting: 8/14 - 8/28
Didi Rival Match: 8/21 - 9/4
Mider Rival Match: 8/14 - 8/28
Alice Match: NOW

More info can be found in-game

Previous Thread: >>152838426
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Was the alice match way too easy?

Then today must be a GREAT day to do a 10+1 draw /ssg/!
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Alice isn't as hard as I thought, I might beat her with 10% or 15% Enervation if im lucky with my 13k TA team. Thank goodness I get event points if I lose so I can use em for free stamina. Thank goodness for meta friend also..
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1st for alice everywhere in next league season
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How are you guys getting so many counterattacks against the Alice match? I didn't get a single one so far.
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>>152967606
I got a fiesta you damn com2us turtle ;_;
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>>152967606
fuck off turtle, my 13th fiesta in a row
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>>152967637
it's going to be terrible, get your sharrs ready now
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>>152967637
>hundreds of teams in galaxy
>only like one team using Alice

I refuse to believe no one had her before then.
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Who is ready for nerfs?
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>>152967824
Alice was a big surprise the first time and few had the players for her.
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Can you replay the story after beating the Alice match?
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>>152967494
I can't do it.
My friends aces can't do it.
I get pushed back, manage to make a long pass, shoot for minimal damage and proceed to get my ass beaten down to my backline again, but this time i don't even have spirit to long pass...

Fuck this, I'm not getting this chick
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I'm gonna enjoy this ass
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30 tickets
>2K crystals
>no legendary
FUCK THIS SHIT I DIDN'T EVEN GET NEW ARDOR QT INSTEAD I GOT 3 FUCKING DYNAMES AND OTHER LIGHT SHITS
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>>152967824
>>only like one team using Alice

I met a few WW/dark that made room for alice, same as some Dark/light (meta ace) teams.

She isn't like Elaine or victoria that will work on any team off color. She is a situational player. I don't think we will see her widely abused as there is no surefire cookie cutter lines for her yet.
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>everyone doing this easily
>I get absolutely destroyed
I don't get it...
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>stuck with a CM guin
Send help...
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>>152968245
>3 dynames
Congrats.
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Best stones for alice?
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Dat Muriel, didn't need her. Just drilled through with Khirel.
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>>152968127

Post your team.
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>>152968127
B-But muh event points!
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>>152968279
I just muscled my way. Used a friends Khirel for totem.
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>won with Hiro
Maybe they made it too easy.

Hope they also nerf Edward's and Guardenia's matches.
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>>152968348
Probably Fontus
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>>152968348
FTS has been incredible on her
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How could I beat Alice
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>>152968639
Use this. Kei was literally immortal and 2 frontpassers at mid helped me a lot.
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>>152968639
GK doesn't heal and has shit DR, you probably need a Beth friend in your backline to pen to frontline and something to keep healing your Kei.
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reminder that if you don't switch your gk and striker for your pvp team right before the reset you are literally worse than hitler
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>back when I attempted this I didn't have any of the cheese units and got rekt.

Man Vonchi was scary doing 6k crits like it was nothing.
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>>152968939
Hitler dindu nuffin
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>beat Alice within 10 rounds
Fuck what do I do with the crystals I saved up
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>>152969147
you know what you want to do
>>152967606
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>>152968639

You don't have enough healing, and your GK doesn't heal when attacked.

Your backline needs to be able to outlast them. Maybe try metatron in the back so she can heal more often, and also add a friend linmay in the back if you are still struggling.

Eventually you will break out of the back and the enemy team doesn't heal. The backline people will eventually push through to the front and make a path. Linmay should be the one advancing the ball when possible as she will revive the forward line when she hands the ball off.

Then you just keep shooting, reviving, and shooting. Ravian should fuck them up over time.

Try it a few times and eventually enervation will buff your team until you can brute force it.
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>>152969147
Waste your crystals trying to draw her Serestia so Alice can laugh at how pathetic she is.
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>>152968542
They didn't nerf anything you fucking idiot.

It's exactly the same as before only now we have 1+ year of new units and EEs and some mechanic changes.
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>>152968639
put choi in back so he can pen to the front for you.

put meta as a meat shield in back to help heal when shot at.
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>>152968560
>>152968626
What about the rest? Reflex/Pen/Reflex?
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>>152969319
Alright thanks anon, some Linmay ace here?
still BellPLS
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>people say to borrow a friends ace
>most of my friends still rank 50
Shiet
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god bless meta friends
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>>152969537
i'm using fts/red crit/blue crit damage/dark pen in her prism

red reflex with a blue crit should be fine too
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>>152969449
>>152968791
>>152968780
I'll try these too
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rip
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>>152969581

Ask here for a specific player that you need to borrow.

/ssg/ has traditionally helped loan aces for boss fights in the past. You may have better results at prime time though as it is still early and not enough people are around.
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>>152969569
added
good luck anon
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Thanks, Shu, take your flavour and go back to bench <3

(fuck, i forgot to abuse event points on her, lol)
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Can my team make it? help pls
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how do I do this match
I have Verister, should I place her in the back even though she's not invested in?
I also have invested Bora and Griffith if I should be using a non-striker friend
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>>152969861
use shu-virgil-linmay in back like this guy >>152969820
either borrow a vonchi or a reflex stealer so your uriel can shoot repeatedly.
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>>152969861
You can probably do it with that team. Only 2 slimes and Alice do damage.
If you don't let the ball get stuck in the back you should be alright. Bring a meta friend or something upfront to steal the ball.
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>>152969928
>put bell in back
>bell pen to front or forward pass
>victoria/meiran/lynia buffing ravian's reflex
>infinite steal
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>>152969987
True. Dont forget to place Linmay under striker (purple in prioriety)
Also borrow somebodys Metatron, my full team is there >>152968780
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>>152969928

Your TA is pretty low and even with a good friend you may have to suffer some losses to boost your enervation to make up for it (boosts stats after losses).

It is going to be a nasty fight for teams under 9k even in the best circumstances.
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>>152969928
If you can ensure your front can kill once the ball's in front then yeah. You can also try reflex fucking over the GK if you can get enough healing on Ravian to ensure she can keep stealing. With a low TA, you might need some enerv stacks though.
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>>152969584
HAIL METATRON! OUR MOTHER AND SAVIOR
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>>152970291
I have 9k with my normal team, but my lack of sharr and a real healer/CM makes it hard
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>>152970212
>>152969996
>>152969987
Thanks, will try.
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>>152970637
you don't need a sharr or even a mid.

If your back can survive, just borrow a vonchi and put him in the back. Let Vonchi carry the ball forward and shoot. Repeat.
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>>152969928
Find a vonchi friend with balmung or Teranox and use Verister ace at back. Long pass to Vonchi, wait til Alice uses her active, pen until 1v1 or shoot then hope to god you can reflex steal and bring it back to vonchi fast enough
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I need a Vonchi friend, is there anyone.
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>>152970291

Also a reminder on enervation. You don't see it right away. I know in the past the enemy debuff would stack only after every 10 losses.

Use an ST cost reduction manager while grinding enervation losses.
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Just realized that muriel has soul grave. I'm so glad I SPUd her while her match was up
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10.5k TA and beat it 2nd try.

Beth, Sharr, and friend vonchi bullied the fuck out of them.
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>>152970852
I also need a maxed vonchi friend, my front and mid lane get raped
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>>152970852
I need a Vonchi too please
daschonks
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guys, remove your pvp-teams pls, im stuck at 2150 :(
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>try the boss match
>can't get the ball out of my back
>draw
well atleast I made it to gold league today
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I hope all our new friends gets their Alice this time.

Good night /ssg/.
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I hate being a thundercuck, none of my invested players are useful for Alice at all.
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>>152967606
>GP fiesta
I trusted you turtleposter
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>>152971536
Do you not have Asslad, Bell, or Cynthia?
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>>152971712
I have Bell and Cynthia. Doesn't change that I have no healing on my team at all.
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>>152971507
>good night
But is 2 pm
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>>152968376
Pretty much this but Freyja is now EE, Luka and Veronica are 6*

I'm fucked.
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>>152967606
>3 fiesta and that new light faggot

This is the LAST time, you lying little fuck.
at least I got black ivy mileage
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>>152967606
>10+1

Nice meme.

>do 7 single draws
>lia
>cynthia
>linmay
>mileage uriel
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>>152972101
>single draw meme
Nice try, I disproved that months ago.
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I didn't knew there was that many newfriends on /ssg/
I thought this shit was the same 5 people while Jkun changed his IP for the rest of posters
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>>152972278
Have you not been here the past couple weeks?
Chockablock with newfriends.
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>>152970953

What screenshot is that "i'll painfully bully you" from?
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Should I place my friend's Meta on back left, back right, or back mid?
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>>152972418
It's when Metatron with skin uses her active
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>>152972418
Meta $kin.
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I got like 5 shots in with Sharr and the GK is still at about 9k health when the match times out. I just can't get enough penetrations in with my Bell.

Not having WoM is such a fucking hell, I am sorely tempted to just blow 600 ds to get one. FUCK.

Any advice on how I can get the ball to the frontline faster for more shots? Should I use MW instead of Bell?
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Second try. Could get her at first, probally, but made some retarded mistakes and didnt make it in time. Turtle was immortal, sammy carry hard.
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>TA hovering just under 10k
>only 600 crystals thanks to a fiesta urge
How bad will the damage be? Also does enervation actually go to 100%?
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>>152972613
Run 4 man front.
Borrow a friend's Ravian and cheese it.
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>>152967606
Is weird that I wanna fuck this little turtle?
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>>152972701
50% is cap and she isn't that hard dude.
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>>152971773
Should've picked up a freyja
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>>152972613
friend beth
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>alice was easy as shit
Will WG be this way too?
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>>152972754
Unfortunately I don't have a friend with Ravian or Vonchi.
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T-there will always be a next year r-right guys!?
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>>152972903
I'm sure there will.

IF the game is alive by then, right?
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>>152971712
>tfw my cynthia is getting bodied left right and center
>Kept being reminded by this fucking kid I run monothunder but doesn't have any thunder legendary

I wanna get off Alice wild ride
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>>152972813
Maybe, or maybe I should have gone with an element that's not complete garbage. Oh well.

It's going to take forever to build out of thunder.
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>>152971841

I'm not the guy to ask for thunder, but in general it is the same idea as other people's teams above: meta in the back row to heal. Do you have star tear stone on your GK to keep her healing as well?

Once you maximize your backline survivability your players will start to break out naturally. Your should be able to clear a path pretty easily, even you have to suicide charge with her, meta will just revive her.

Other people are getting results just with a borrowed backline vonchi.
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>>152972754
>have a shit 7150 TA team
>can still get her down to 3000hp with Ravian
I'm so close, I just need to get their stats down enough that I can get 2 or 3 more shots off
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>>152973006
I will keep supporting the game as long as I enjoy it.
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>>152972675
Great respect on lynbell but HOW aren't you using the greatest skin in the game?
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>>152972861
I can lend you my Ravian, anon.
Oochoo
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>>152972861
>Unfortunately I don't have a friend with Ravian or Vonchi.

Ask here for help and put your player name.

It is that one day a year where 4chan people are happy to help and it is ok to namedrop yourself when asking for help.
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>>152973105
My raklet does have star tears.
My meta doesn't have optimal stones though.

Will try this out. I don't have a Vonchi friend (pls someone add me ;_; Carmesim, Ravians welcome too i guess) but i could try a backline beth as well.
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>>152973142
Ravian OP. Why did I recall her ;_; I failed.

>>152973254
Fellow Soft mate, why don't I have you added?!
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>>152973006
dead game meme is dead
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Do people actually need a Ravian? I could put mine up but I can't tell if people are just memeing
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Yeon was fucking harder than Alice, but Yeon is trash and Alice isnt.
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>>152973343
My friend's list was full, but I've made room for you now
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Finally! Despite what the screen says, my MVP goes to both Linmay and Angela. Because there's not a chance in hell I am losing with those two in my backline. Special mention to a friend Metatron for stealing everything in the frontline.
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>>152973251
I tho alice match gonna be much harder so i didnt waste crystals. Gonna buy skins for lynbell and lilith right now. Also gonna wait for linmay skin, hes awesome too.
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Usually use Meta ace but I'll have ravian up for the weekend UnluckyKnight
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>>152973339
All I have is a Ravian but sent you a friend request in case you can't find a Vonchi friend. I cheesed it with a Metatron / Shura / Victoria / Ravian front so you can try with Lynia instead of Victoria if you don't have her and see how that goes.
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I have a Balmung Vonchi ace if you guys want, ign: Zenchi
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Reminder that Shu is the king of PVE, Isillo is da princess and Metatron is their mother.
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>>152973703
Lynn minmay linmay when?
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>Ravianfags coming out of the woodwork now that they might finally be useful for once
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>>152973991
>he thinks Ravian is bad
Good for Ravianfags that people like you exist
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>>152973991
>for once
Alright anon
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>>152973991
You're just salty you don't have your Alice yet.
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>out of ST
Welp
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>>152973552
>I could put mine up but I can't tell if people are just memeing

She is genuinely a good choice for this match.

Any striker can win this but lower TA people will be fighting the clock and spend most of the match grinding in the backline. They need effective strikers to end it fast or they will lose to the clock.
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>>152974220
You can buy more in the event shop. You are getting enough pts per loss to almost buy it once.
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>>152974220

>out of ST

During boss weekends players are expected to use crystal ST refreshes to keep spamming the match.

Fortunately Alice isn't too bad so people banked crystals for no reason, unless they are under 9k TA.
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>>152974326
>buy ST in event shop
Very helpful point, thanks.
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>>152974549

I forgot about that. 50 points for 50 ST and you can buy 10 times.

Alice loss gives you what? 25 to 40 event points?
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>>152974476
>had 2k ST banked up
>needed 90 total
Glad I didn't have to dip into my non-expiring ST in mail.
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>>152974653
25 to 50
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>>152974476
My team is 8,3k TA and used 1,2k crystals to beat her
with 55% enervate and Vonchi friend
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>>152974653
fairly certain I got 48 when I lost.
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>>152972838
I don't remember what her gimmick was apart from the 50% heal per hit on the GK
If the stats didn't change at all though everyone should be OHKOing just fine
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>>152974742
I have near the same TA, wish me luck bro
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>>152974789
Ah fuck! Now I realized I could have used her matches to farm event points first before winning.
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>>152974742
>Spending 1.2k crystals to get her
>When you could have just scouted or bought from the dshop
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Enervations works after 10 loses,right?
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>>152975297

Every 10 losses, yes.
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>>152975162
Well I got enough event points to get the 5-6* box, the tickets, the st, the gp boxes and the Sharr skin so...
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>>152974742
>1,2 k
This shit is not worth it, I'm out
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>>152967606
>Baltheon
Have they said that event skins are never coming back? He's not pretty enough for my waifu team.
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>>152975160
same boat, buddy, same boat.
Guess we gotta do it the hard way.
At least we'll get some gold out of it.
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>mum got an ee
>mum got an ee
>mum got an ee
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>>152975162
>special character
>scout
>buy
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>>152975442
Orses is your mom?
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>>152975351
Does it still count if you quit the match?
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>>152975691
yes
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>>152967606
I love you and your dysfunctional logic.
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>>152973927
>lynn minmay poster still posts
one day anon, one day.
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>>152975867
I paid once 110 bucks, got Duke with first 10+1, where is your God now, huh?
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>>152975384
Still a better use of crystal than gambling on the summons. At least you know what you are getting here.
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>>152976202
does the Black Tortoise count as a deity?
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>>152973927
the skin is music related.
at least you have that
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>>152976202
I don't love you or your dysfunctional logic.
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It was easier than expected.
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How should I set up for Alice? I have Kevin benched in favor of Muriel because I don't have a forward passers-by besides her
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What the fuck is going on with this match?
Last time it was almost impossible, now it's a cakewalk, even easier than some arena matches.
Is it that the powercreep has made this shit too soft, or in this whole year all of us have become just too good?
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>>152977226
If your backline survives and your bell/milky can penetrate to your front, you should have no problem.
Just use Kevin instead of Lynia.
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>>152977237
what was your TA a year before and what is it now?
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>>152977237
We became better, stones changes and character changes should also be taken into account.
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>>152977237

Most players were 8k to 11k rainbow messes back in June 2015 and they each had only 1-2 unique stones. They also didn't have powerful friend aces to help them.

The 12k-13k whales had an easy time with Alice, same as today. More people have caught up to that level is all.
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Can someone with Ravian ace add me?

Vedran207
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>use vitos
>time out
>use spare ravian
Only two tries, this shit is too easy.
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>>152978229
Vitos buffs when?
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>>152978363
He needs his base AS to be higher or replace him with his master.
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Hope you guys can help me out. This is my team.
I got my hands on a 6* Isillia. Should I get rid of Zibroi? Is she still usable as only light player in the team or does she need certain skills of other light players as support?

Also I need to get rid of Vitos, I've got enough strikers, but I had no luck with Baltheon so far. Any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance.
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>>152978857
>3 strikers

for what purpose
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Thankyou Voncheese.
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>>152979000
>Also I need to get rid of Vitos, I've got enough strikers, but I had no luck with Baltheon so far. Any other suggestions?

That's just what I got so far.
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>>152978857
>but I had no luck with Baltheon so far
>but three strikers seemed like a good idea

Is this bait?
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Is it worth getting the $5 30 day crystal pack to use em on Alice? I was so close to winning...
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>Beat Alice on auto
How much easier it was this time.
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>>152973813
Dude, thanks so much.
I managed to get it without spending any crystal!

I'm so fucking happy, I'm buying bell skin in your honor, Anon
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>>152978363
>Giving a buff to a hound on a leash
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>>152979127

The $5 crystal pack is good value anyway.
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>>152979275
Shut up Alice, at least he isn't giving himself for free to every one who enters your house.
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whether they fix her or not, i'm just glad she finally got one.
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>>152978857
What is exactly the problem? Can't KO the GK? Zibroi getting KOd? Timeout?

You probably should get a Duke or Beth friend to help pen from backline to frontline.
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>>152979531
She is still ugly as hell
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>>152979692
i still love her
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Shitposter-kun, you need to change the "wall" of good players again because I just surpassed it.
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>dynames EE already
>orses EE while still useless
Jesus fuck
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>>152979575
Thanks for the suggestion. I can put out damage but yeah, Zibroi is getting KO'd. Duke sounds like a good idea.

Also I was just wondering if it makes sense to replace Zibroi with Isillia as she seems to be able to take a hit or two.
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>>152979798
New wall is 2913.
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Bets
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Ardor/Light or Ardor/WW, lads? Thunderfag that's abandoning this sinking ship, here.
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>>152979947
If you can get Isillia with to at least 90CR counting all ehr passives and Beth ace to improve it to 120, maybe it's enough for her to not get critted and survive.
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>>152980000
garbage

checked
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>>152979127
The $5 is the best pack beside the beginner one. I always at least buy that a month.
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>>152980000
some 4* tier garbage.
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>Considered myself f2p
>Realize I've spend a good 200~300 dollary-doos on the game thus far
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>>152979302
>>152980163
I didn't need it apparently..
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>>152979171
Congrats anon!
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>>152980146
>>152980202
Funny enough I'm using him for Alice to knock off a large chunk of health
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>run kevin and virgil on my backline off color
>got alice
>don't know who should i replace
Guess Virgil since my Kevin has EBM and Alice works well for crit debuff fuckery?
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>>152980897
Alice teamwide debuff is good, but she also slows pretty well the position. If you aren't left with a healer but still get critted it might be troublesome
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which slimy should I be looking to pen through?
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BB should have made this match harder, now everyone will have Alice
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>all these NEW Alices
Did all of the oldfags quit?
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>>152981392
been penning straight through the middle with a friends vonchi pretty easily
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>>152981546
No, a lot of us didn't even get her back then
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>>152981546
Yup. It started after the censorship bullshit.
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>>152981546
Oldfags who got her aren't even posting or don't care, and oldfags who couldn't because of not having the proper team could now by sheer force of will considering how shit easy it is.
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>>152981431
>now everyone will have Alice

Not really a problem. Most teams don't have room for her on their teams.
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>everyone who couldn't get her before got her now (if they didnt quit yet)
Grats friends.
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>yfw ww/dark and ww/ardor gets further cancerous with Alice
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>>152982123
>WW/ardor
She'll probably get nerfed soon
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>>152982123
dark/ardor I mean
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>>152982167
Yeah, like Sharr... "SOON"
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>>152982162
>nope.jpg
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>>152979692
We all know they're saving the best art for her alternative skin. Maybe something like naked apron costume.
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sharr nerfs when

>>152982162
why
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>Ronald Twenty-eight grunted as he had to take hold of Milky Way's hair again to keep her gaping mouth from sliding off his dick
can jkun be more of a cuck?
>>
In who do I use my beelzebus next? I have maxed my Striker-
GK or Duke?
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>>152982162
fuck you buddy.
give her the beard
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>>152982996
If you like winning, your GK. Wait, who is your GK?
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>>152982996
I would do GK over Duke.
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>>152982162
I like her.
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heh
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>>152982925
>fan fiction
>meaning anything
>>
>>152983202
Isillia
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>>152983408
Replace Ronald with Kaidormu and it's as canon as Sage's sex change.
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>>152982753
>le OHKO Sharr strat works for Alice
Goddamn
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You can beat Alice anon, DO IT! Get a Vonchi or Beth friend with good stones. Use them in your backline if you get stuck there AND DO IT, GET TO THE FRONTLINE!

WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? DO IT, JUST DO IT! YOU CAN GET HER.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-sfG8BV8wU&index=1&list=FL_690y9MCL9ObMBnbS3RMnQ
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>>152983635
it took me 3-4 shots and i couldn't use elaine active
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>>152983635
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>>152983607
>reddit wrote it
Nope
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>>152983669
I'm waiting for someone to lend me his Vonchi ;_;
Nacrox74 please send help
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But this wasn't done by reddit, checkmate.
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How many levels the 6* kuma grants?
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>>152983902
65
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I really hope retards end up replacing their healer with Alice. Would make climbing a hell of a lot easier.
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>>152983861
What a nice girl, helping a cripple with his erection.
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>>152983902
64 levels

if your unit was lv1 he end up 65
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>>152983961
Shut up sl-
Wait..I actually agree with you for once.
Continue.
>>
>>152983861
did vonchi make the webm?
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I'm pretty close to giving up lads, I can't get out of the back with a friend's Duke and I have no Vonchi or Beth friends.
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>>152983810
sent
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>>152983861
>implying it wasn't
Theres a reason the quality is a lot lower
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>>152984198
use forward or long passers
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>>152984198
>not namedropping yourself with open spots in FL

>

>>152983669
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>>152983980
But there's no problem if both legs are still intact
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If anyone need a Vonchi ace for those 2 days of Alice, I have an open spot in my FL after removing some people that quit SS.

IGN: Keptron
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>>152984946
Fuck off, attention whore Brazilian whale. Go shank some people for SS money.
>>
>20% enervation
>in 1/40+ matches i've gotten the ball to the front to Vonchi
>accidentally shot instead of pen
not gonna make it
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>>152985276
its so easy, just use forward/long passers mid and bell/milky and similar players backline
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>>152985276
Even i beat alice you shitter and im barely ss
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Fucking yay.
Only took about 150 crystals and a lot of fucking with my team
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>>152985271
Anon pls don't chimpout.
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>>152985271
Nite don't bully /ssg/ friends
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>>152985794
its a BR, who cares
>>
>>152985851
they shitpost less than our few aussie and canadians of /ssg/
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>>152984946
You're my favorite poster.
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>>152985276
Literally the first try with my pvp team, why are you so shit?
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>>152985365
>>152985361

>>152969928
base Verister isn't fast enough and Bell cant hold out even with 2 stacks of unavoidable destiny, Miho's useless but I have no HP totem otherwise
even if I do manage to get the ball to Vonchi he can still be stolen from because their -reflex drops him from 2500 to below whatever the fuck they get
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>>152983445
Yeah, max her out next. Otherwise, you're just playing rocket tag, and whomever gets the ball to the front line, wins.
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>>152985271
shut up autist
>>
>>152985276

Post team if you haven't already.
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>>152984198
Post your team first so we can tell you how you're doing it wrong.
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>>152983810
Your friend list is full, make some space.
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>>152984198
use balmung bell
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>>152984946
Why not wear balmung/wom and 2 red crit damage stone?
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>>152986972
TB setup deals more dmg than MW setup. I don't have Balmung or 4* crit dmg.

If I had 2 4* crit dmg I'd run it with MW
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>>152986972
His Vonchi stones have god tier substats, that's why.
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>>152986740
this is the most effective team I have I think
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>>152987053
can I suck your dick?
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>>152986803
Done, sorry about that
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>had 1500 saved up
>only used 100
praise be.
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>>152987270
If you don't have enough crit totem to make him crit, I can switch off balmung for wom.
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>put duke in the backline
>get cooped every time he has the ball
Co-Op defense was a mistake
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>>152987543
>600 saved up
>used nothing
>took one try
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Used a Milky friend up top to bully unnecessarily. They never moved and it took 5 shots. Another walk in the park for za warudo.
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Fuck this whore and her slime whores. I don't care anymore.
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>>152987543
I had over 1k ST saved up thanks to the event and used 46.
Guess its swirly farming time.
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>>152973142
Finished with Isillia at 100-200 hp. My poor heart nearly gave out when co-op defense activated at the last shot but was Ravian able to finish her off with spawn
My friends Beth for MVP
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>>152987071
Yea the stats are pretty high for those stones.
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>>152987674
look for a vonchi buddy m8
he really trivialized the match for me.
match still takes a bit, but it's mostly him just penetrating to the front
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>i have unfinished business with serestia, if you know what i mean

What did she mean by this?
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we sure showed that cunt huh bruh?
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am I doomed?
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>>152988056
>zibroi is so useless he couldn't even stand this shitty match
Kill yourself ugly cunt.
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>>152988132
>showing cost of units and not the TA
If they are all max superb and max lv, maybe
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>>152988132
>Cost
Shit bait
>>
Stupid question but after Vonchi gets to the front I penetretaet again or I shoot?
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>>152988056
>alice calls him ugly
>he takes it and all that slime abuse
Best bro
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>>152988132
>not using old Sue art
kill yourself
beatrice should be fine though
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>>152988290
Rip and Tear
shoot
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>>152987197

That low TA isn't helping. What is your normal PVP team? Surely you have more players with superbs and +'s then what you have shown there.

Your backline simply won't survive like that and the mid and front can't carry it.
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>>152988378
not him but

new sue> old sue
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>>152974742
55%? So there is no enervation cap?
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>>152988290
Active shoot, you want to stack up those active too.
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>>152988479
kill yourself
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>>152988483

It used to cap at 50% I thought?
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>>152988594
It never had a cap
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>>152988565
you first cuck, fite me
>>
>>152987579
I don't really have crit totems other than elaine but she can't stack since mine is too slow so I would appreciate if you could change it
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>>152988594
Don't know about now, but I beat the Aslan match at 70%
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>>152988594
The only limit is your will, you can always get some good packs for more crystals.
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>>152988880
K.
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for some of the guys that have been here forever, how would you rate the superb boss matches in difficulty?
were any in particular tougher or easier, or was it all mostly the same?
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>>152988221
Better? I also have a shit ton of gatekeepers saved up cause I was saving for the future since im unsatisfied by my current team, but if I have to use them, so be it.
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>Can't place friend unit in the gk slot
How am I supposed to beat Alice when I get ohko'd
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>>152989343
>that TA
I can guess you don't have much unique stones or superb in your characters. You probably will need a good Vonchi friend to carry you penetrating the positions and shooting
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>>152976876
What stones do you run on Beatrice? And what support did you bring or did it not matter?
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>>152989340

Yeon gave me the most grief, but I am WW primarily. I didn't have developed dark or rainbow players to throw at him/her.
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>>152989340
edward > yeon > alice (when she first came out) > WG > aslan for me
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>>152989340
Aslan was a pain, mostly cause I had Kirin and don't really have all the crit damage increase units to buff him up to one shot.
>>
>>152989340
I think WG was the hardest, I believe she had a huge heal, she was only beatable by cheesing
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>>152989343
You can try a reflex frontline and use a Ravian friend to cheese it out
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>>152989514
Only Bea and Isillia have superbs on them and they have SHoT and PoL respectively since my only other unique is Encompassing Soul. I have plenty of other units besides the ones shown, but this team does the best at the back that I could find.

Like I said I also have plenty of gatekeepers. I just don't know that even with all the investments I could make if I'd be anywhere close to beating it.
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>>152990075
also thats with HP % cheesing, so you cant use that anymore , Aslan was OHKOable, Yeon just needed Bell, Edward wasn't that hard either from what I remember
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>>152990075
IT was 50% or 75% heal on shoot and GK high had DR
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>>152990175
Baltheon, Victoria, Elaine and Meiran are all good investment.

Meiran is a great unit for CoD and PvP if done correctly
>>
>get 5k GP achievement
>5* classic box
>get 10k GP achievement
>another 5* classic box
at least make it 5-6*, these take forever to finish
>>
Attacking gk AI when?
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>>152989243
Thanks friend without you I couldn't have made it
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>>152983669
This is a friend's team.
He started the game roughly a month ago, maybe less.

Can he do it?
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>>152991228
He is gonna get oneshotted
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>>152991228
>>
>>152991283
>>152991340

Just as I figured.
Glad I'm playing for a longer time, my 9k TA team managed to do it.

He would get oneshotted even with full innervate, right?
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>>152991468
If he gets a Vonchi friend he maybe could kill the GK before he explodes, but he should use Crystals in penguins matches instead of refreshes
>>
>>152989340
Aslan was surely the most gimmick of them all, with Valkia or Miho it was easy, otherwise very hard.
I don't remember having any difficulty with Edward, WG was hard though.

I couldn't do Alice first time around, since I didn't have cheesers at the time, and I skipped Yeon.
>>
>Z088 Beta
>Jean
>5* Kuma

Well shit.
>>
How is Vonchi cheese? I use a friend's in the backline and he got rekt when he got caught with the ball
>>
>12k TA getting dumpstered
I assume reflex stealing needs reflex buffs in frontline to work or Milky? I can't beat them in reflex with normal frontline.
>>
>TW duke with silla ace
literally need no one else mid, he can tank all the damage and throw back massive damage. there reflex debuff doesnt do shit to him.
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>>152992845
I won with that strategy
and 55% enervation
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>>152993408
how many cristals did you spend, anon?
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>>152993751
>>152974742
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Friendly reminder to lock your Alice.
You wouldn't want an accident to happen, would you?
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>>152993846
and meanwhile i got that enervate...
>>152975382
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>>152993062
Maxed MW alone is good enough. Elemental advantage is really strong.
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>>152993915
I like to live on the edge
>>
Can I get some Friends with aces that can help me with alice please?
DeMessi
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>>152992845
I'm >>152990958
I put my Vonchi friend on the left to kill the active shooter.
Basically I just penetrated with him to the frontline and shoot.
when the ball got to my backline, Sammy healed any damage Vonchi + Isillia suffered and repeat, Silla Ace.
I did it with no enervation and everyone was full health on my backline at the end of the Match
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>>152993915
First thing I did. No way am I accidentally using her for ST material, not that I would have any personal experiences with that
>>
>>152993846
tfw i got it with 5% enervate without spending a single crystal with a 9k team.

Thanks based ravianon
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>>152994212
You cant use special characters as ST material...
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>>152994378
Ah right, well one less thing to worry about then
>>
Why don't any of you cunts stream?
>>
Well, better luck next year for me I guess...
>>
So why does everyone do victoria/nera/linmay and not victoria/nera/meiran? Is it just not as reliable?
>>
>>152995363
Dont give up anon, you got this!
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>>152995868
Linmay gives a free forward pass and resurrects the line when attacked.
>>
>>152989340
Edward had the most well-designed superb boss fight, as everyone, even Uriel teams, could beat it, without it being too easy.
>>
>Will take 2 month to mspu +160 Alice
End me.
>>
>>152996346
>he didn't save his resources for her
Look at this loser.
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>>152995876
Nah it's ok by next year or the next super boss I'll definitely be SS or SSS
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>>152996346
>tfw have enough mats to max superb and +160 her but I cant use it on her
>>
>25% Enervation
>finally got alice

Thanks Keptron
>>
This shit is impossible with Irre. Stupid useless bitch! One day I'll scout Ripboi or ronald.
>>
Would I still need a crit resist totem for Isillia if I use Alice now?
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>>152997071
Better have at least 200 CR, son
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>summoner war stream
What the fuck?
>>
>>152997071
>he hasn't seen 300+ crit strikers
No. You're still in the children's league.
>>
>>152998115
When do I join the meme league?
>>
>>152998240
When your Isillia can't stand a single shot you'll be halfway through.
>>
who is honestly better at GK for alice BT cause she can take more dmg, or Isillia for the heal? my BT's teamwork isn't maxed tho
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>>152998369
BT is literally a better, cuter, more interesting Isillia.
>>
>>152998638
>nigger tortoise
>cuter
>more interesting
wrong
>>
>>152998347
But what if she already gets ohko?
>>
>>152998638
>WW
insta shit tier
>>
>>152998369
Isillia is obviously better for pve, especially against dark. What even gave you the idea that BT was better?
>>
What type of backline do you run with Angela?
>>
>>152998958
You need a cancerous Light backline at that point, that way you can at least put up a decent fight before you get OHKO.
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>>152998638
who would ever say no to breast tortoise?
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>>152998945
>nigger
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>>152999254
you can use a forward or long pass unit to bully light backlines
>>
Is colliseum of despair called like that because you fall into despair because you have to use the now absolutely useless Elizabeth?

has this "joke" been said before?
>>
>>152999890
probably not because it's a horrible joke what the fuck man.
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>Long/Forward passers still don't pass to the striker
What the fuck, BB
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> Alice fucking everywhere now Spirits

I'm going to hate this shit.
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>>152999890
I used to do that joke.
>friend asked me why cod is so hard
>told him to read cod's name again
KEK
>>
>>153000730
>Dark/Ardor and Dark/Ww teams become further cancer
how can we win
>>
>>153000825
Good frog.
>>
>>153000838
>>153000730
>Implying anyone will even use Alice
There's no spot for her.
>>
>>153001886
Yeah thats true, cause even my heart belongs to Uriel.
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>>153001886
Right anon. No spots for the only superb boss that is actual legendary tier.

Who needs to fuck a team in the ass with -45% Crit rate and reflex?

Who needs to fuck a line up with two strong debuff totems?

Not you. Obviously.

Badass
>>
Jkun's Milky is better than yours
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>>153002629
Yesterday I had a dream of Jkun cosplaying as Milky, trying to seduce me, in the end I fucked him in the ass while I was cosplaying as Vonchi, weird shit
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>>153002789
Die in a housefire
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>>153000305
they do, they just pass to the assist first if they have their active up and the bars to use it.

the ai for it is fantastic.
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>>153002015
I wish off color units didn't trigger me. She sounds scary.
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>>153002015
>Look at all these plebs ignoring her -20% crit rate and action speed and -reflex and -max HP in position debuffs
I may have just let out the most well kept secret, now everyone will use her.
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>>153001886
she's like silk, you put her on any team and it's an upgrade.
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>>153003129
I mentioned those debuffs anon.
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Why is Milky in some rival chains? What did she do to Bora, for example.
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>>153003737
Ah yes you did, apologies. Long day, too sleepy.
Her stats are shit, but totemwise she's too good not to have since she'll help screw up all the fast Elaine lines.

I need to decide who gets the 5 littres I'll have next CoT reset.
>Elaine at 3 superbs
>Alice
>Balth I'm gonna buy to boost CoD capabilities
Well shit.
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>Using Alice
>When you could use the far superior Black Ivy
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That's it. I give up. It's LITERALLY impossible for me to win against Alice. I don't have enough crystals to enervate till 50% and I don't think a Vonchi friend will help me, since I can't heal my GK and him in time because my action speed and reflex is so low.
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> Enough resources to instamax a unit
> Alice
> Still need a healer because I fucking hate that faggot Virgil so I need Freyja
> Nute EE never

I hate this game
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>>153004301
Here's a few things wrong with your setup:
>Shu at 1 superb
>Midline
>Linmay in mid instead of back
>0 Light units/attackers
If you have a friend Vonchi, he does that penetrator job really well too from what I hear.
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>>153004301
yes you can.

forget mid and front.

use linmay and shu to help heal in back.

let vonchi pen from back and shoot by himself.
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>>153004274
>not using both
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>>153004274
>ugly shit
>light shit
>not even as cute as her sister
No thanks. I'm not full of shit taste.
>>
Black Ivy
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>>153004747
Black Ivy EE when goddammit?
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>>153004747
kill yourself
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>light/dark with ivy and alice
>WW/dark
>ardor/dark

How come Dark is always enabling cancer? Dark nerfs when?
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>>153005012
Black Ivy EE where she's raped by slimes soon
>>
Reminder that Lightfags are cancer incarnate and they run Black Ivy + Alice for 45% slow
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>>153005435
>>light/dark with ivy and alice
you mean Meta?
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>>153005510
>OHKOtier GKs
not like they have a choice
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>>153005543
There's no need to even mention Meta anymore.
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>>153005701
nice try Isilliafag, nice try
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>>153005543
Meta's like the free space in bingo, she'll always be there
>>
Pls girl buffs
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>>153005785
Sage buffs when?
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>>153005773
Always there, in the middle, helping everyone out but you.
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>>153005510
what's wrong with this? :^)
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I did it lads. Vonchi friend at backline left cheesed them to oblivion
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>>153006272
>tfw gk doesnt heal enough
>healer doesnt have soul grave immunity
vonchis fucking op though, one more enervation stack and I can do it
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>he needed a striker for the Alice match
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You're all postig your Alice's, so let me post the cutest couple!
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>>153006571
Yes cause Uriel's been with me through the whole game.
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>>153003656
not really
Silk is like Kiki, and they shine because they're pretty good totems as well as being good selfsh units
Alice will fuck your own team with her sub-Duke-tier reflex and sub-Magnus damage capabilities if you're not careful enough
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>>153006749
Alice has really high power, pretty sure she can do decent damage
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>>153006635
that's not vonchiXmilky
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>>153006749
>dark slot
her reflex doesn't matter much
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>>153006749
>Alice will fuck your own team with her sub-Duke-tier reflex and sub-Magnus damage capabilities if you're not careful enough
Only a literal bronzie would run her without Fontus. Fontus Alice deal enough damage to make her cancer along her debuffs.
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B-best stones for Chitose
spoonfeed me pls.
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>>153006749
Shhh, let the Alicefags have their fun. They'll see the truth and regret their investment in her in a few months from now.
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>>153006749
>sub-Magnus damage capabilities
what?
>>
>alice ee and suddenly everyone uses her because she's practically a legend
>everyone has alice because match is a joke
>s-s-she's not that good! d-don't use her!
Fucking ardorfags falseflagging again.
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>>153007685
(You)
>>
>can't purchase crystals with D-Stones
>>
Dark should be removed from the game tb h
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>tfw getting tempted to max Alice instead of waiting for Renee cause shes not showing up
give me her already, Fred
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>shitter friend got alice in 3 tries
Reminder than if you lost more than 5 times then you have to be blacklisted from here.
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Reminder that Bell's skin is almost here so make sure to keep your savings intact in order to purchase it.
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>>153007606
pretty neat if you consider the fact that she doesn't even have buffs that increase her attack either good chains too
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>>153008904
>>153007606
Ready for her upcoming nerf?
>>
They blew it up! I've got 100% reduced action speed for the backline with alice but they still have some.
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>>153009049
who cares if shes nerfed? you cant go wrong with investing in a qt

>>153009097
pretty sure AS debuffs max at 50%
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>>153009049
sure i don't use her anymore anyway
>>
>scrambling for crystals like a meth addict
>scouting a clover would give me 30
>blow all my gold (400k) on scouts
>no clover
>realize I have 13 3* beelz ive been holding on to
>6* beelz wouldve finished the collection for 30 crystals
im a retard
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>>153009453
it's hard to think when you are in a panic
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>>153009242
>pretty sure AS debuffs max at 50%

Serestia active lowered my goalie to 0 reflex. With a metatron on the same line.
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>>153009049
yes, i'm expecting it
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>>153009242
Paralyze is the only thing that lowers it to 0 I think.

But 50% doesn't seem right but it could be

I know reflex can go to 0
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>>153009049
Doesn't matter, there are other cancerous players waiting in line to replace her.
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>>153009664
>>153009901
>AS
Where did it even say anything about reflex? Action speed debuffs are capped at 50%.
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>>153009664
reflex debuffs are different
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>>153009917
None that do what she can
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>>153006968
>>153006949
you're not even halfway into maxing CAR with just a Fontus
I'm not even saying she's weak, she's just not a character you can expect to work in any lineup because she's bad as a standalone player unlike Silk/Victoria who can adequately cover all stats at once and has a massive freedom for the rest of the line
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>he thinks Alice will help to stop WoM Willy and Sharr
Don't get rid of your Magnus just yet.
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What did this fuccboi mean by this?
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>>153011419
Even as a Loremaster, there is nothing to explain. It means what he says precisely.
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>>153011548
Sup bbygirl lets make a lore that involves me n' u
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>add someone from thread for help with alice
>they declined friend invite
o-okay...
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>>153012054
Fuck it senpai, I'll add you, don't know if I can help much though. Add me in a minute, I'll make space on my FL. IGN: YuukaChan
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>>153011419
>have this shota
>don't even use light
Guess he's just ST garbage.
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>>153012413
Wait til after his EE next week
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>>152967606

I got Serestia from it.

Didn't read this post, but thanks anyways, anon.
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>>153012054
This post made me feel sad.

Want a headpat?
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>Reflex/hp aces give a whopping 30% reflex/hp
>Atk/hp aces only give 30% atk/hp
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>>153014765
Uh..yeah.
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>>153014765
>wants to shitpost
>can't even do it properly
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>>153015278
Im guessing he wanted to bump the thread out of 9 but failed miserably
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>>153012054
what ace do you need?
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>>153015346
>2 replies
that's a smashing success buddy boy
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>>153015578
you
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i just got presty's clockwork. would angela be the best stone for this? not sure if i should stack recovery or with crit resist or what
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>>153015812
the best for angela is dense magma. until then use pome.
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my backline is far too weak for this
I have no spirit generation so I can't break out with a long pass
I want to die oh wait I am thanks alice
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>>153016225

Just follow this strategy and you should make up for the spirit generation issue, anon.
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>alice's stats vs magnus's stats
>anons said alice's stats were low
>alice still has higher total stats than magnus
>?????
magnus ee when
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>>153016431
Ardorfags are trying too hard to falseflag.
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>>153016431
hopefully soon, along with nerfs
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>>153016225
vonchi.
find a friend with one.
keep penetrating
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>>153016931
he dies
should I put him in front of their strikers?
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Pls help
Alice 2 stronk
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>>153016225
Get a good Beth friend or Vonchi to put in your backline
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>>153017123
She's not strong, you're garbage.
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>>153017123

Why are you using such a garbage goalie?

You have vonchi, this should be easy.
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>>153017123
>510 box storage
>6* Ronald with skin not lv upped
nigga, are you trying to ruse me?
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>>153016431
looks like they just swapped technique and power around + EE boost. I thought people here had hardons for technique more than power anyway, considering technique is the significant source of base crit rate / reflex / steal damage while power is just dribble (and recovery power for some reason)

pen power comparison should be with Meiran because they're in the same boat for roles
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>>153012413
>>153012623
this guy heals the entire team with a pass how is he garbage?
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>>153017626
people are desensitized to teamwide revives (ie. small heals) thanks to Meta CM
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>>153017123
Yeah I totally believe this is your team
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>>153017604

She'd be ridiculous if she had high technique, given how much reflex debuffs she gives to the line, anon.
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>>153017626
sammy does that too but she's not great , Dynames has no line buffs so he wont work well in the backline and his debuff isn't great
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>>153017626
black ivy does what he does better
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>>153017738
It is
I need help I have autism weed
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>>152979531
The fuck is wrong with her face AGAIN?
fucking cabbage.
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>>153017743
well yeah, but I kinda expected her to be better off than an average attacker

that said, she just has the stats of an attacker, now that I think about it
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>>152979531
I think she's cute idk
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>>153018379
Nothing is wrong with it

Would you fuck off already
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stats got a little silly after the level 70 thing
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>>153019058
sasuga light/ardorball
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Is a level 50 E Angela better than a 50 EE Zibroi for Alice?

Both at 0 SPUs, just scouted Angela today.
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wwcucks are trying too hard today
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>>153017123
Guys pls
I'm legit retarded
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>>153019552
when aren't they
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>Forget Liaspirits is /ssg/
>Just now remembered
>Unfriended someone from Liaspirits a week or two ago
oops
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>>153019043
Orses is my only player with any +'s outside striker, legends, or gk.
No, I will not fuck off.
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Fucking finally.
Had to stomp some clubmates to get it too.
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>jiho/duran/angela
Absolutely disgusting.
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Why is no-one talking about the hairy hobgoblin in the room?

What an atrocity.
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>>153017626
>he thinks teamwide recovery with a pass will be useful
>implying he'll get to pass
His best skill is his debuff. He doesn't need the DR on attack, and the recovery is fucking stupid, not needed, and doesn't give anything worth the investment for pvp.
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>silk/alice/kiki/jiho
How does this line look? I only need Jiho for it, but I think I should use Alice in midline.
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>>153017123
>Tarsila

Nice. Is she 99 luck?
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>enemy has angela with duran/death queen/kevin/virgil
>tfw using beatrice
pls buff beato
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>>153020260
I imagine neverending pain against usual midlines and Elaine
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>>153020260
Pretty good if you never want to break out
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Why did I only get 2 Didi drops today? This is terrible. I don't remember anything too good happening to me today that could have caused this.

And only 1 Leina today too.
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Ok I leveled up mike

What now
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>>153020659
Yeah but it's
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>>153021302
>Yeah but it's

I agree.
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with pen stone nerfed is it better to run something else on bell? im running SHOT/Blue Pen/Yellow Reflex/Dark crit dmg
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Can my crappy team win Alice match?
And yes i read about meta block the Black slime
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>>153022340

Looks like it.
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d-did jkun got alice too?
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>>153022340
If anyone has vonchi ace add me IGN:waifuzzz
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> ALICE FUCKING EVERYWHERE NOW SPIRITS

Ahahahahha kys bigball.
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>>153023625
I did >>152981431
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>>153023631
We already talked about this.
She's shit tier so no one will use her.
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>>153023784
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>>153018379
still better than her old art.
her body is actually banging this time.
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>>152979531
>mfw she's a cyberdemon
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Clearing inactive friends if anyone needs another Silk friend :^)
IGN: Kebabstay
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>>153020118
despite the neck, i like it better than her other skin.
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>>153020118
>base art is better than the skin
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>>153024947
well that was true with the other one as well honestly
that fucking face
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>Veronica, DQ, Linmay, Hiro, Leah, Sage and now Lucid all have music skins
Will you make a band with them?
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>>153025375
>Veronica
She is clearly a solo artist
>DQ
Not a skin
>Linmay
>Hiro
>Leah
>Lucid
They could be part of a band
>Sage
Lead singer
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>>153025529
DQ has to be included since she has a guitar in her base, E and EE.
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Might be slow poke but it turns out that when you reroll it only replaces what you have on one server. I been playing Galaxy Server this whole time to find out that everyone else is on Global. And when I switched, turns out that I had a Vonchi from when I tried out the game some months ago and decided not to play.
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>>153025921
is that even level 30 yet?
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>>153025921
You will get william.
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>>153026301
It's a rank 2, if that's what you mean.
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>>153026521
get it to level 30 and see what you get anon
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>>153025921
very good start, i'd stick with that account
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>>153025921
>Shura and Vonchi with decent GK
Make dark/light great again
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>>153025921
That's a very nice starting point.
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>>153026685
Did they give out the 7 free 6* Meras on this server?

If I stick with Vonchi here, I'll lose Meta and Duke on the other Server. And most importantly my 7* Ruen.
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>>153025823
Dairy Queen plays death metal.
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>>153026978
>Vonchi
>literally the most broken striker right now and will take you to galaxy
>7* Ruen
Obviously stick with you're waifu, Anon. E-sports isn't fun.
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>>153025921
Whoah mama.
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>>153019840
Fuck off, if she's not hypermaxed then we don't care what you think faggot.
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>>153028174
>literally two people here can comment on orses
Fuck off, huelord.
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Linmay and Keptron MVP
i'm so happy ;_;
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which ones did you get /ssg/?
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>>153029269
It's going to be one only if you don't fuck off soon.
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Dark 5* Superb Boss (Goalkeeper)

>Ace: Increase the action speed, crit chance and max HP of 4* or lower ally players by 30%.

>Active (Block): Reduces incoming damage by 45% and recover the HP and action bar of the team by 25%.
>Passive (Pride of the Underdog): Increase crit resistance by 6% and reduce damage taken by 2.5% for every 4* or lower ally player on the team.
>Passive (Never Give Up): Increase the max HP by 10% and the attack power by 10% of the team whenever a 4* or lower ally player is KO'd (Accumulates up to 5 times).
>Passive (The Bigger They Are...): When a player on your team attacks or is attacked, increase their inflicted damage by 20% and their counterattack resistance by 30% for every additional base star their opponent has over them (Only the opponent with the highest number of base stars is calculated).

not noautist
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>>153030201
It's shit.
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>>153030201
get a grip
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Can't beat saturday stone match with my AAA team
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>>153030475
ok
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>>153029996
just the skin
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>>153030621
When does ny team stop being shit?
>>
what happened to the morons who played Alice witha a mono ardor team? They dead yet?
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>>153030710
when you have 14k TA like based jkun
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>>153030158
Say that to me not online and see what happens, you literal false-flagger.
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>>153030475
use a friends vonchi :^)
>>
>>153030710
when you have at least 2 hypermaxed units
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>>153030746
berrypoop ohko'ed alice with sharr. there is no reason why mono ardor cannot clear this.
>>
Everyone still struggling find a healer to use preferably a Virgil or someone of the kind and then use a friends vonchi and put your friends vonchi on backline he's going to penetrate up and active shot. He should eventually kill the gk.
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>>153030914
>sharr is broken
STOP THE PRESSES
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>>153029996
>got the box first because of the chance at a legend
>bought 4 tickets out of rage
>bought the stamina to farm swirlies
i'll buy the skin next
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>>153030914
>no reason why mono ardor cannot clear this

Can't wait for Noautist to beat Alice match with his autistic ardor girl team.
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>>153031050
I didn't even know there was a box until now.

God damn it, I wish I had thrown the Alice match a jillion times to farm event points with 2k ST I had saved up.
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>>153030914
>ohko'ed
he didnt ohko he 2hkoed
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>>153031441
just farm 2k stamina worth of swirlies
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This is a no-good hound.
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>>153031538
>tfw
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>>153030767
Post location and let's do this, nigger.
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>>153031538
>>153030914
also he used a OHKO team, a regular ardor team would have a lot more trouble
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>>153031441
Pretty sure they intended it that way since some(new) people don't know you can scroll through that window and assume it's like the normal events. IIRC the box used to be right after the skin in the previous events but doing it this way reduces the amount of people knowing about the box and also increases likelihood of panic ST recharging when they find out late about the extra stuff. It's basically a noobtrap.
>>
>>153031725
>using shitti
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>>153032019
Was that the best you could come up with?
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>>153032293
she looks like a sjw
some fat and ugly tumblrite
>>
Worth drawing if 2 of the character I want are featured? What are the actual chances of drawing them?
>>
>>153032354
explains why reddit loves her so much
>>
>>153032354
>>153032464
This is an all time low
>>
>>153032408
I spent 25 tickets, 1 free draw and 2k crystals today trying to get ronald and serestia
I got kevin, cynthia, butcher, asakura, linmay and dynames
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>>153032532
>trying to get ronald
Why
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>>153032464
I thought the new tumblr was apocalypse forums?
>>
>>153032745
I want a dark gk so I can use lindberg and patricia
>>
>alice match also gives event points

I got a reason to play it now.
>>
can I put a tb on alice
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>>153032948
why not?

>>152972776
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>>153032825
Just use Zibroi then
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>>153031750
Wherever's halfway between the bay area and you works fine for me, you damn dirty ape.
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>>153033320
Delete this
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>>153031583
I am, and farming chains, but it is a massive hassle, comparatively.
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>>153034039
Bay area? I prefer to do this at a walmart instead of the bay, you fucking neanderthal.
>>
>>153033508
ronald enables a lot of chains for me though, plus I think he is cooler
>>
If ardor is good and ww is good why isn't ardor/ww good?
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>>153035365
no reflex ace
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>>153035365
Rly makes u think
>>
>>153035365
ww is not good though
>>
>>153035596
If ardor is good and ww is broken why isn't ardor/ww good?
>>
>start a new CoD run to get into comfy 80-8 club
>floor 15
>zero champions
For fuck's sake.

Also, why doesn't elizabeth's line buff activate on pass anymore? And since when?
>>
>>153036073
7 stars update fucked over colo helpers, they don't have any skills anymore, just dead weights now.
>>
>>153035365
no good ace, as its tied to either lucian or lia, and you want neither.
>>
>>153036237
Oh, wow.
Feel silly not to have noticed til now.
>>
>>153035365
Ardor/Light is barely usable without using Grapyl ace
>>
>can't crit against 90% of backlines
>shura won't even help
>every match is suffering
this is infuriating
>>
>>153038285
get better stones
>>
>>153038385
i'd need 15% crit on all my stones for it to make a difference
>>
>>153038081
>Says this
>When Milky Ace exists

Uh..anon?
>>
>>153038081
top kek
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>>153038556
not him but if i had a choice between the 2 i'd easily pick gaphyl's ace.

finding room for milky is a lot harder than finding room for gaphyl.
>>
>>153038450
what garbage striker are you using
>>
>>153038686
Because if one is better than the other, the other is now shit and barely usable, right?
>>
>>153038745
griffith
>>
>>153039142
griffith is all pen and raw damage
don't rely on crits
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>>153038780
milky front only works if you have vonchi or want to do a 4 man front. milky mid is a terrible idea. backline milky is a waste since you could run another totem
>>
>>153038780
running milky means you have to ditch an assist, running gaphyl has no downside.
>>
>>153039586
>>153039719
Not sure if you guys are retarded or just trying to downplay how broken Milky is.
>>
>>153040708
they just false flagging, milky features a lot in galaxy, most of the time paired with elaine in the front and sometimes used at the back to pen up the middle through metatron
>>
Is the Alice match possible with this team? I don't have much ST and crystals either.
>>
>>153040708
It's just discordfags trying on a new meme.
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>>153041701
that team would need a lot of enervation
>>
Anyone getting a white login screen on your mobile phone? no problems on emulator, only on phone
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Finally got Alice after enervation -10%
This was actually pretty hard due to co-op defense preventing 1v1's with the goalie
penning right side is easier than the left side

>>153042641
Are you using android? I just relogged into SS with my iPhone 5
>>
>>153042864
Yes, Im on android. After I put my login data, I see the "loading circle" and then a white screen with the hive logo on a blue bar on top. I tried to reinstall the game, clear cache and such. Touching the the Hive logo bring me to the "cafe screen" but nothing more.
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ww/ardor reflex ace when?

we want to abuse ardor too...
>>
Anyone with a maxed Vonchi that I can use for the match?
>>
>Just get a Vonchi and pen lmao

I don't get it? I tried that and Vonchi pens for like 1000+ dmg, taking him 4-5 pens to pen through the backline alone. He'll be dead by then.
>>
>>153043847
its so easy, you don't even need vonchi
>>
>>153043847
So what? He doesn't lose his stacks when he dies so it doesn't matter. The point is to do damage since they don't heal anyways.
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>still no Renee
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>>153043847
You need some kind of heal in the backline too like Linmay, Sammy (heal line on pass) and such so Vonchi stay healthy enough to pen (and shot) multiple times
>>
Can I have a hypermax vonchi friend please? Ign: needlyfe
>>
>>153042864
Who where you using as friend?
>>
>>153043847
if its penning u want then get a beth
>>
>>153043847
what kind of weak vonchi are you using?

a normal wom + 2 ardor crit damage vonchi should hit 2k+ on a pen easy.
>>
>>153043984
Thanks to the based Linmay anon I'm able to go to the front and strike multiple times with Ravian but eventually lose for time out.
Are there some Vonchi full max anons that could let me try with him to see if he can do a better job than Ravian?
BellPLS
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Thank god I finally finished this shit. Look like 8 tries. Was nerve-wracking not being able to beat it when everyone did it on the first try.

Thanks Oochoo, LEGEND!
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>>153044615
grats anon
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>>153044953
Thanks anon <3
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>>153044001
Silla ace for 4 man top
Without her ace the zombie setup doesn't work
>>
>Perial gives me a emp swirly drop
Best manager grill
>>
>>153047464
you misspelled marineco
>>
>>153047515
Marineco is garbage though

Stopped using her because she only gives 1 star stones now
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>>153047556
>tfw
someone got 4* ardor crit damage too
>>
>>153047665
They're just so rare now though

I use another manager instead now that gives a constant flow of FP, and more FP draws = more swirlies,, even got BHS and a littre. Feels better for now until I get a better scouter.
>>
HOLY SHIT Vonchi is broken.

5 penetrations with him and you're at the front. This match would have been much faster if I just got rid of the front line.
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>>153048062
everytime you use his active he gets stronger.

and his stacks doesn't disappear even when he died.

how FUN
>>
>>153048062
His ace also helps, 25% more damage done

He's just ridiculously broken
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>gk match drops pig
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

feels good man
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top memes
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How can I beat Alice?
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>>153051536
>bluestacks
>using 2* gk with raklet in bench
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>>153051536
Get a Vonchi friend and put all your healers in the back. Also get a real GK.

If in doubt, use some crystals.
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Vonchi bois where you at? Please add me if only just for today for alice match ign: imoutron

Also, what are the /ssg/ clubs? I was on snowball before I quit last time and now that I'm investing time and money again I might as well get back in one
>>
>>153051828
I just got Raklet after Thunder day, do I use her even off colour?
>>
>>153019517
Switch to angela.NOW
for e-sport
>>
So i've given up on alice, but im still collecting event point
How can i make my ST worth
Alice match (25~50)
Or rival matches(10~20)
>>
Should I scout Zadkiel?
>>
Hey everyone. Unless you're done with the summer event I suggest mashing quit to gain easy event points for the summer event. And when you're done with getting what you want, use the accumulated enervation to beat Alice.

BB IS GENEROUS. THEY GIVE US EASY ACCESS TO SUMMER EVENT ITEMS AND A SUPERB BOSS.

ALL HAIL BIG BALL.
>>
I beat it with my pvp team"

"Lol Ez with my 16000 TA team"

"I beat it on auto and I only have 9 Legendary players"

"I lost"

"I can't beat it"

And now for something completely different, since I took some time and wrote quite lengthy guide on:

how to beat Alice match with only around 8k TA team.

Without needing to spend any crystals, probably.

Without needing more than 1 Legendary.

Provided of course you have enough of the right 5* players and Valkyrja Beth or a friend with one.

You can read that wall of text of a guide here: http://pastebin.com/23MDeLqt.

Note: It took me total of 12 tries.

First 10 were with different Strategy and with a lot higher TA Team. (10500 TA)

The 2 attempts with This Strategy had TA of 8960 with around 1k TA not being used for anything.
>>
>redditposting
>>
>>153053002
no
>>
>>153053714
Don't be an ass
Zadkiel is really usefull
I have gotten 3*gatekeepers from her
>>
>>153053905
zadkiel is pretty cute
>>
>>153053002
Yes but not yet
>>
>>153053002
never ever scout scouters, the only one that pays off on a very very very long run may be marineco because of more chance of gatekeepers but that's it

scouters with draws like zadkiel will eventually pay back with 3* draws but there's no point in getting them
>>
>>153054056
Ingram is good too
>>
>>153053905
nice meme
>>
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>>153054196
Go on anon, im listening your shitpost
>>
Jean buffs next patch.
>>
>>153054367
>look it's worth it because this one in a million event happened to me
>>
>>153053259
Does quitting through menu even give points?
>>
>tfw my only healer is Linmay not EE and 10% heal isn't enough
>>
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>>153054410
>one in a million
This one was from last week
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>>153054515
>non ee'd linmay
>1 spu isillia
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>>153054056
You don't really have a choice now that managers have been pulled from friendship draw.
>>
need some help

well since the patch, i have been able to log in with facebook account on HIVE LOG IN, i would go to the hive log in but all i would see is blank like literately, i re-installed twice hoping it would fix the problem but it didnt. so i was wondering if i get some advice on what to do, i missing lots of play hours. Thank and have great day.
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What the fuck. Ive yet to draw one and this guy gets two in one?
>>
>>153054589
You gave me hope senpai
>>
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>>153052650
>>
Could Chitose not EE help backlane for Alice?
>>
>>153054701
He's getting banned like qtfruit.
>>
>>153054878
>Decreases the damage received from Dark and Thunder players within the position by 30%
The EE skills are good, but this is more than enough to help you.
>>
>>153054878
I used chitose and isillia.

All you need is her passive to lower dark damage and someone who can break out. Goalie with heals isn't needed but someone in the back needs to be able to heal. Sammy or Linmay are good choices.
>>
>>153054583
So you're saying it's 1 littre a week?
>>
>>153055065
Well... Not exactly, luck plays a mayor role in here.
You gotta have faith anon
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have you praised SS's true mascot today /ssg/?
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>>153054848
Keep autoing Alice with your 14k PVP team and you will eventually get her.
>>
>>153054627
That's a weird issue and you should probably go to HIve's website and send a support ticket about it.
In the meantime have you tried playing the game on another device or through an emulator like Bluestacks?
Do you still get the same issue?
>>
>>153055373
>faith
You worship Madoka or something?
>>
>>153055718
i worship haruhi
>>
>>153054627
I have the same problem for a few days now. Already tried basics, restart modem, restart device, reinstall app, reinstall stock/custom rom, etc.

No luck so I concluded this is server side.

Then, I just restored with an existing backup that was already logged in and fixed the problem. Alternatively, you can also install app+data from other devices that already has your account logged in.
>>
HORSES EE WILL BE GREAT
>>
>>153056595
>superuser shit
I bet you also use Lucky Patcher on SS.
>>
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Thanks, Silk! I did this.

Surprisingly, Silk grealty buffed Malcolm and Virgil, so they were never CARed.
What about Kei - he is a good boi too.
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>clubmated wanted to add me as a friend
>friends list is full 30/30
>delete one guy
>he immediately sent a new friend request to me
>accepted him back
i have nothing to worry about r-right?
this has happened twice already
>>
>>153043074
Is there anyone else who encountered this?
I can't login as well since it just shows a blank white screen without anything for me to input stuff into
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>>153057721
Fuck off cirnotan
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Post your pvp teams.
>>
>still can't beat alice
just kill me
my BT doesn't last long enough and I have no healer
>>
>>153052650
>>153054848
What is your TA/Team?

Don't give up on Alice so easy.
>>
>>153058170
>he did not prepare 999 ST and 1k crystals for worse case scenario

Your fault cuck.
>>
>>153058170
>I have no healer

Have a club member make a Sammy or Virgil into their ace. Combined with BT pass on heal it should be enough.

If you have a chitose or death queen even non EE their skill to block 30% of dark damage helps quite a bit.
>>
>>153058170
you have no sammy/linmay/virgil/lucian/shu?

that's sad anon
>>
>>153058362
>he dont have all them + fspu Isillo for sure
Thats really fucking bad.

Also reminder: Shu is the god of PVE
>>
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>>153058092
>>
>>153058526
You people with that many +160.

Jesus Christ
>>
>>153058362
>light
>ww
>light male
>male
>legend and worst legend
I've only built around thunder and ardor/dark, unless units came to me in draws I didn't want to scout those
>>153058351
im already using a vonchi friend and I can't beat it without him
>>
>>153058526
>retard still has his team in pvp slot, not allowing weak players into high league
You are worse than Hitler.
>>
>>153058573
>even noautist has a full +160 team
Its not all about winning e-sports.
>>
>>153058635
>You are worse than Hitler.
t-thanks. I look up to him.
>>
>>153058709
Yeah but you need loadsemone and swirlies.
>>
>>153058635
>high league
Easy win teams ain't enough if the shitters are not playing frequently enough.
>>
It's scientifically proven that sucking dick makes you better at SS
>>
>>153059316
you'd have to be a retard to be bad at SS
I would if it increased my luck though
>>
Crocell has any future?
got him from 1500 gp box
>>
>tfw lose with only 300hp GK ennemy
kill me, I'm at 34 try
>>
>>153060520
Just make Shu-Virgil-Isillia-Meta+friends meta deflane and win them.
>>
>>153060014
Maybe.

They really need to go and do an Attacker rework like they've done to goalies and utility strikers.

Right now you can count the viable attackers on your hands.

>Duke
>Lynia
>Khirel
>Shu [PVE]
>Yuri [PVE front/full Ardor Back]
>Vivid Fear
>Mikael [Full light backline but still ehh]
>Hildegard [Some PVE match strategy]
>Jheet [Dark midline but ehh]

Leaders and Defenders can do what the above can do better in some cases and offer more to the steam. Of course some of the above are special cases.

I really hope they look over attackers and make them worth putting on teams.
>>
>>153060817
>khirel
not even mono ww wants to use him
>>
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>>153060850
>Hasn't seen Khirel with a rolled dark slot and Fontus Tissue
>>
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>>153061125
did you just pulled a jkun?
>hurr durr just reroll his slot to dark
>>
>>153060817
>>153060850
Duke and Khirel have been fine since the Legendary rework.
All the S1 attackers are pretty shit/obsolete, even the ones with newer EEs. If you don't have a dark slot AND a totem then you're a liability as an non Legend attacker.
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>>153061301
>Khirel
>have a dark slot
>fine
>>
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>>153061284
Hope not. What did that faggot say?

I know its not cheap to roll Khirel but IF you get a dark slot on him he becomes the Terror of Death.
>>
>>153061596
why don't you reroll all existing attackers to have a dark slot then, ya dumb cuck?
>>
>>153060817
Jheet is OMFG with Earths Cry, trust me.
>>
>>153061709
Even if you do that they would not compare to Khirel.
>>
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Cant wait for her EE.
Meras, Littres and these elems are ready.
>>
>>153061596
>Fontus + Dark A.spd = 55% CAR
>Still gets CA when attacked
>0 inbuilt DR
>Can get rekt by all the Ardor fronts around

He is fine when penetrating, but otherwise you really rely on action bar rng and pray he doesn't get CA.
>>
>>153057724
>not having everyone in your club as your friend
>>
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>>153062252
that's not even possible
>>
>>153062410
Friend slots for crystals when?
>>
>>153062203
Anon don't be retarded.

>backline Khirel being attacked
>>
What's your favorite way of losing ssg?
My personal one is 1 hp defender try to steal from full hp striker with 99% action bar
>>
>>153063037
backline units getting countered by elaine
>>
>>153063037
thats your fault for putting a defender in front of the striker. My favorite is a low sub 200 hp defender penning into 2 full hp units
>>
>>153061464
Did you miss the "non-legend" part?
He has built in CAR and ardor slots + Atk/Crit buf and 50% DI. He doesn't need a dark slot.
>>
Anyone have a Vonchi friend I can borrow? IGN: Kokorone
>>
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>>153063037
Serestia using her active on my goalie to lower his reflex to literal 0 and then Ravian stealing it over and over.
>>
>>153062856
>being this bronze
>thinks no backline unit can ever get attacked
>meanwhile I have CA'd ballholding Khirel plenty of times to get me 1v1s
WWfags, everyone.
>>
>>153063037
Alice or Serestia using their active in my GK when the asshole is running Ravian with Balmung.
>>
>>153063337
>WWfags
we're right here >>153060850
>>
>>153063037
WoM william killing my entire backline before they even move
>>
>>153063337
>WWfags, everyone.
>guy is clearly not even a WWfag otherwise he would know this
Ardor/thunderfags everyone.
>>
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>>153063309
>and then Ravian cant steal even 1350 reflex difference
Fixed you. Kei FTW.
>>
>>153063735
Kei would be dead way before a steal was even needed
>>
>>153063856
>Bronze Kei would be dead way before a steal was even needed
FTFY
>>
>>153063337
Bronze must be nice
>>
new thread soon guys, someone do it before the cuck

how was alice to you guys? it was quite easy with hiro
>>
>>153064051
the cuck is asleep at this time
>>
>>153063037
Fagventor OHKOing my Isillia with Asslad active combo
>>
>>153063037
When Silk uses her active and my Jin has no spirit for active block. Then Sharr crits for 7500 and im fucking done.
>>
snowball op please
>>
>>153064641

New thread
>>
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>>153063037
#3. 1 HP Sammy/Veronica without TW reflex stealing/killing my attacking units 100% of the time in a match

#2. Coop Defense on a dead or low HP unit resulting in my unit colliding and losing the ball/dying

#1 Enemy Striker has been denied all match long until some chain of events leads to my GK taking a full active pass active shot ALONE.
>>
>>153063910
>bronze kei
Redundant, this is where he belongs.
>>
>>153063959
Post your galaxy team faggot. I want to see your ebin Khirel.
Or post all those awesome galaxy teams with Khirel on them.
>>
>>153063037
When my backline with at least 1500 reflex differential suicides against a William with his jewsus powers.
>>
>>153060850
MonoWW reporting in, I have khirel and doesn't use him.
>>
new thread when
i can't do it now
>>
>Alice loves Dale
good taste, best dark male.
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