/kfg/ - Killing Floor General

1st for Stalker lewds!

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2nd for scary scully

The best parts of this update isn't SWAT; it's the buffed Demo and Support.

>No updates to the PvP mode in the latest update.

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>>152943560
It's likely because nobody cares.

>>152943560
You'd think for an official gamemode that took a ton of development time they'd at least try to fix it.

>>152942953
>it's a "watch the medic clutch the wave 2 scrake with a pistol and a scavenged T1" thread

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>>152943812
>It's a "New thread, for a new update, yet we're back to being dead again" thread.

how is swat?

I'm at work so I don't quite understand. Is the beta over and switched to the live game now?

Didn't realise 3/4 Commando guns were getting new sounds
I like them all generally, but the Scar's two firing modes now sound like completely different guns

how do I launch the superperk training map?

>>152944818
dead

>End up killing a boss on suicidal and get level 25
>Go to change my skill
>774/0 Experience

Why does it do this?

>>152945154
Every single weapon with semi auto and full auto sound like two different guns. TWI are such gun nuts they put multiple guns in your guns.

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wew lad

Haven't played for maybe half a year, heard about the SWAT update, is the game fun now? I heard about resistance patch and everything being awful.

>>152946705
the resistance patch was pretty much completely reverted about a week after it came out

>>152946705
It's... actually fun

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What do your skill preferences look like /kfg/?

Is the KF1-styled Stalker/Scrake working with this update??

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>>152947465
>not using napalm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BC_Drff9sk

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>>152947465

Did they ever fix toxic rounds doing no damage?

>>152945385
It's silly and just looks incredibly lazy (especially paired with how the xp bar displays) but I have about 1400/0 XP on Sharp which I kind of like for the time being, feels like it's Limit Broken.

>>152944616

We had a big spurt of activity when it first came out, but now we're back to ded.

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Is it just me or is the server browser absolute shit?
I remember having a lot of problems with the KF1 browser too.

>>152945008

Yep.

How long will it take Tripwire to nerf the Support and Demo into being useless again?

>daily drop
>Victorian USB, holy shit I didn't know about this one yet
>decide to open it since TWI just put a nice update live and unfucked their shit ever so much, plus mainly I want to appease the itch to gamble
>M4 skin
It looks great, but man. Anything else in that crate would have been better.

>>152949685
So there really are shitters who spend money on this retarded gambling scheme. That shit's going f2p, fast.

>>152950062
People may not have done it in a while (and understandably so) but don't pretend it's anything new here.

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>>152950062
>he doesn't know a good chunk of /kfg/ actually open crates

So is there any reason at all for there to be more than 1 medic?
I feel any other perk, even firebug, would help out a lot more with at least damaging zeds.
Does everyone want to be the "epic comeback as the last one alive" guy?
There wouldn't need to be a kite fest with 1 guy alive if pubs worked like a team and could control their side of the map while calling out sc and fps.

>>152949685
Its tempting to get that USB because the skins are sexy as fuck, but being sold for 2 bucks on the market? Fuck that shit.

whats the most useful class?

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>>152949057
Yes it is
>scroll-bar on the LEFT side

>BugSplat reporting not working
Ebin job, Tripwire, just when my game crashes for joining a server as Firebug

>>152950642
In my honest opiniono
doctor > womando > backpacker/angry melee > bomber/sniper > cowboy > shields (oh wait) > firebad

Tripwire's shit is still down? How the fuck
And how can they just leave it like that while pushing out a major update, they even bothered to make an update page so at least someone is awake from the PR angle.

>>152950642
Firebug for morale purposes

>>152950062
>going f2p when you can keep selling the game and market shit at the same time
Nah, it won't go f2p for now

>>152951125
>such a detriment to the team that everyone else feels better about themeselves
I like it

>>152948148

>Ranger over Assassin

Go on home, British soldier, go on home.

is gunslinger useful?

how about demo?

>>152951703
>is gunslinger useful?
Yes.
>how about demo?
Probably?

>>152951942
how is gunslinger useful

he's like a worst commando / swat

>>152951703
>is gunslinger useful?

One of the best classes around

>how about demo?

Meh if you play without glitch abusing, fun if you can make hans dies from fall damage.

>>152952002
Gunslinger is better in more capable hands than SWAT. SWAT is a perk that works for most players, but because of its low damage and high rate of fire it can only be so effective.
GS might not have stuns, but it can still effectively take out Scrakes and FPs with its big guns. Unless the SWAT player has near-aimbot levels of accuracy, he can't do the same.

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>>152952002
>he's like a worst commando / swat

>>152951703
>is gunslinger useful?
Solid all-arounder perk, toting mobility, high damage, and has the capacity to take care of the big zeds at higher perk levels. Also has some nice auxiliary effects now through skills.

>how about demo
Easily powerful perk capitalizing on clearing crowds, and also has the capacity to shit on the big zeds with enough finesse. Lower on self-defense.

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>>152952002

MEDIC>SUPPORT>DEMO / GUNSLINGER> EVERYTHING ELSE

>>152951703
Demo is 10\10, fp destroyer, scrake destroyer, trash mob destroyer

Only downside is that if a crawler steps on your toes you're in trouble

https://twitter.com/MSamenfink/status/769121623857324032
Scully at 1:40

>>152952109
Does no one use the nail bomb anymore? Gunslinger has stun, but it requires some precision work getting the grenade aligned under the big guy.

>>152951152
They know going f2p is going to bring much more gamble money than selling the game ever will. Keeping the game behind a paywall is stalling their economy.

> Suicidal Usage Rate
1. Medic (57.4%)
2. Commando (53.9%)
3. SWAT (52.4%)
4. Support (52.3%)
5. Berserker (51.6%)
6. Firebug (51.5%)
7. Gunslinger (50.9%)
8. Demolitionist (49.8%)
9. Sharpshooter (48.7%)

Perks are surprisingly balanced for once.

>>152952432
Interesting stuff, hows it looking over on HoE?

>tfw you hit rank 25 with a perk and don't touch it again because you feel like you're 'wasting xp'

I hope they bring out that prestige system soon™

>>152952378
Is it dosh he's carrying inside his jacket?

>>152952665
I don't know, I'm just pulling stats from a set of suicidal serves I run.

Suicidal Winrates
1. Medic (7.1%)
2. Gunslinger (6.1%)
3. Berserker (5.9%)
4. Demolitionist (5.8%)
5. Support (5.4%)
6. Sharpshooter (5.0%)
7. Commando (4.1%)
8. SWAT (2.7%)
9. Firebug (2.5%)

>>152952738
Oh right, I figured there were official statistics being whipped out again

So, nuke. Does it matter what weapon I using to trigger the megumin or is it always the same damage and radius?

>>152952415
Nail bomb doesn't stun the big guys anymore I think also leg shot still feels kinda wonky.

Zeds should take damage from hitting walls and the ground at high velocity.

Playing the stumble/reload speed and explosive radius Demo is fun, but not as satisfying if the enemies that go flying don't take the extra damage from hitting walls and shit. It would be a nice bonus to counter the -50% damage that the explosive radius bonus has.

>>152952871
pretty sure the weapon matters.

you get the best result with the RPG

>>152952738
Those are really low winrates

Do people really suck that bad at this game?

>>152952378
Holy shit I was not expecting that. Thank you for the life and joy.

>>152952973
Yes we do ;_;

how do i level fast guys

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>>152952973
>>152953279
not me

>>152952353
>play demo for the first time today on hard
>scrake comes
>someone stuns it
>walk up to it and shoot it in the head pointblank with my RPG
>it dies

I've seen people do it in webms but I've never done it myself before, it feels so satisfying

I still feel like I'm broke as fuck all the time though but at least I can kill shit now

>>152953365
also the passive reactive armor is a lifesaver

>>152952871
Any Demo explosive will trigger it, but they have to detonate during the zed time. Only the HX25 projectiles can 'queue' the effect. The skill itself adds damage and radius modifiers to the explosion, which are of course linked to the weapon's stats. The DoT is garbage again so don't worry about that.

>>152953463
It's just too bad a clot fart after it's been triggered can kill you.

>>152952963
>you get the best result with C4
Fixed ya

how do i into demo?

is nuke even that good anymore?
I've been thinking of trying mad bomber, but it doesn't seem to work when you're already reloading

When i try to buy a key it doesnt work,it just wont buy anything neither from kf2 store,neither from the cache UI.

Bug?

>>152953628
* Blow all your HX25 ammo on the first round
* Sell it and buy a stack of C4
* Use that and kite around trash to get a bunch of kills in one boom
* Get the RPG-7 by wave 5

The assault rifle and M79 are a meme
* Don't blow rockets on scrakes, get assist dosh for stunning them with dynamite
* Carry your team against fleshpounds

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Killing Floor nees its own profile system like what Dota 2 has so that you can see your records.Maybe have achievements that ive items and stuff like TF2.

It could have stuff like:
>overall stats like damage, zed kills (overall and individual zeds), dosh earned, play-time, etc
>same stats for each perk
>career self-heal and career player heal
>favorite character and weapon visible, showing a preview with your character and weapon with the cosmetics equipped on them in a little window
>map stats like a list of maps you've played with play-time and waves completed on them (could be used to see if someone got max level legitimately or by boosting)
>weapon stats from most to least kills and what type of zeds they're used on

This would be pretty cool to have, as it'd feel like you're actually creating a sort of record of your achievements while at Horzine. Also, anything else that could go up there?

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I haven't played this PoS since release

is the game good now

Anyone else notice two clips fall out of the MP5 when you reload it from empty?

>>152952973

/kfg/ can generally sleepwalk through Sui, but you have to remember that /kfg/ doesn't represent the average pubbie.

>>152953948
Yes. There's no reason to play the original over this now, unless you have a toaster.

>>152953791
Wew lad, what a great original idea you have there!
Truly only the sharpest minds such as dota players can figure out an idea of this calibre.

Way to go, champ! Don't waste time here, you have to inform reddit and the TWI forums of this revolution you're bringing to video games.

>>152953628
go swat or something on first round because the HX25 is garbage

go for the m79 on round two with as much ammo as you can carry. Use it exactly as you would expect it to be used; at groups. It's detonating range is closer than you'd expect.

the C4 is not a primary weapon; only buy it if you already have the m79. It works fine as an early-wave scrake/FP repellant, or if it's the boss wave and you dont need the splash damage.

as soon as big dudes start spawning, sell the c4 and get an RPG. Now would be a good time to flick towards the damage skills in the perk menu.

The RPG has a smaller blast radius, so you should use the m79 on groups of trash; the RPG is overkill.

The m16 is good if you keep getting fucked up by crawlers, but it's explosion radius is smaller than the m79, so ideally you should use that instead.
Preferably you should be holed up somewhere in a chokepoint, while swats/commandos/medics/supports keep dudes off your back.

point blanc shots with the RPG (and to a much lesser extend, the nade launchers) to a scrake's head will instantly decap it in 1 to 2 hits, depending on difficulty/players (usually 1)

a good combo is bash+rpg+bash+m203 for 6P HoE

for fleshpounds, just keep spamming rockets until it explodes.

demo or support lads?

>>152954082
With that level of weak sarcasm, you'd probably fit in better at Reddit than I would.

>>152954175
yes

>>152953628
>sell shitty pistol round 2
>buy m79
>use that until you have enough dosh to buy an rpg to go with it

m16 ain't worth the cost, unless for some reason you're by yourself, use m79 over it

>>152954175
Do you have a sharpshooter?

If yes, support. If no, demo.

>>152954175
Demo so you can rob kills

>>152954219
Oh yeah, I forgot reddit invented sarcasm. It's as weak as your dumb ass post, that shit's been suggested to hell and back on every kf2 related website for over a year. Get out of my /kfg/ you fucking normie.

You guys still play Killing Floor 1?

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>>152953961
what's worse is that the MP5's cocking handle doesn't move back and fourth when the gun is firing, it just stays completely static...

..But wait Anon, it gets better!

even after you reload on a empty mag, the cocking handle is still in the exact same fucking spot and despite the hand animations suggesting that you're locking the cocking handle and slapping it down to chamber a round... well... you guessed it

it. still. stays. fucking. static.

Does the epic farming map still work with the latest update? Gotta get new perks to at least level 10 :^)

Also,
>they've butchered the MP5
just

>>152954427
>being this much of a sperg
>>>/r9k/

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>tfw an RPG round barely misses FP head because it needed to teleport 6ft into the air to get over a pebble
When will they remove this god-awful fucking teleportation shit that ZEDs do to get over obstacles?

>>152954541
also forgot to mention that the only time the cocking handle actually moves is when you're doing the reload animation on a full mag.

>>152953628
Use the HX25 until you got the money for the rpg

>>152954674
Just play the game and you'll level up.

I... I don't understand... Y'all be acting all pumped up and discovering swat n shit...

Didn't you niggers play the beta? What the fuck are you assholes doing? Everyone I know has been a level 25 swat for a while now, it's all fucking ancient news.

>>152954823
I play on Sui/HoE. Not playing level 0 perks on them, anon. C'mon now. What do you think I am, one of those feeding pubs that ruin servers?

>>152954768
No you're a sperg
>>/b/

>>152954829
>he actually plays the "beta"

>>152952875
Got up to test it just for you, still works on big guys after update. Like I mentioned though, it has the fairly mean caveat of needing to be right under the target (or it just comes up to 98%, 99% stunned). It can be worked around in frantic scenarios with 2 approximated grenades or, if you're daring enough, pick up a LAR to ensure stuns.

Of course, between bash and Skullcracker GS really doesn't need stun now.

>>152954867
Play hard then.

>SWAT
>its medic without heals but gets to crouch run
>Wtf tripwire

>>152955321
Geuss I just can't throw grenades then and yeah with the 30% slowdown stuns get kinda irrelevant considering you should be going for headshot's anyway.

>>152955459
>medic
>its commando without zed time extensions but with healing
>Wtf tripwire

>>152955631
No fault to you necessarily, I spent a lot of time myself after the nail bomb was changed trying to perfect the grenade roll. For instance, it bounces slightly to the right and farther than you're aiming for. Because of the distance and timing, I find it easier to spot the hit on FP than Scrake because of his faster walk speed.

>>152955654
name one reson to pick swag over medic
there is none

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>>152954479
I still do but game seem dead atm. KF2 hype finally killed it.
Being an elitist douche with over 4k KF1 hours don't help either. All I see are newbies that cheese the game with no-brainer tactics then wipe at the end.

No one plays HoE anymore, because mobs are very protective of each other and if you try to score mass kills in a blink it makes you pay back for it in an unpredictable way.
Also, old trolls of the community doesn't like it when newbies are trying to finish a HoE game for the sake of having an achievement and stall or clutch the game for their own amusement.

Rack em up or Bone Breaker for level 10 GS perk?

Question.
What do you think is better for support:
-tactical reload
-bigger mags

>>152956690
Can you aim?

>>152956813
Tac Reload is an always grab personally, senpai. Especially there.

>>152956813

Depends on your weapons. Tact Reload with M4 and base shotgun is a must. But I roll AA-12 and Double Barrel with Larger mags and do fine.

No double-XP weekend for this perk?

>>152956876
nope

so bone breaker?

>>152957091
>Double Barrel with Larger mags
Sawn-off still got 2 rounds with this perk though.

>>152957316

Yeah but that sweet sweet AA-12 ammo increase is worth it.

>>152957316
Aw are you fucken serious
I was looking forward to my three-shot double-barrel shotgun

best skill build for demo please

>>152956690
i don't like rack em up because the constant pressure to get perfect headshots or else you lose your damage multiplier makes you either unintentionally miss or outright refuse to shoot at zeds because they might move in a weird way or the shot might not register or firbugs might exist on the same server as you. which will usually end badly.

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>>152956813
they're both viable-ish

tactical reload if you wanna go around both barrel assblasting literally everything from the face through the anus with the boomstick, but for that to actually work you gotta get:

-tactical reload
-salvo
-tight choke
-concussion if solo, supplier if with teammates
-barrage


otherwise if you wanna mainly use the AA12 with the M4 Benelli:

-extended mags
-same as above
-same as above
-same as above
-same as above

with that setup, you'll be using your AA12 mainly to chew through zeds and especially during zed time, you'll be able to melt the heads of fleshpounds and scrakes.

for either setups you could always try swapping out tight choke for AP shot if you wanna kill zeds through zeds.

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http://www.mediafire.com/download/2dfc459b89h1t43/KF2_Initial_D_Eurobeat_Pack.zip
readme includes everything, song names, and what in-game songs they replace.
They're already labeled to be used in-game so you can copy-paste into the common\killingfloor2\KFGame\BrewedPC\WwiseAudio\Windows folder.
If you want a meme song like running in the 90s to play in the main menu or boss waves just change the track ID associated with the song name from the readme.
Only had an issue once when a song didn't play during the trader time correctly, otherwise it works fine.
You can test them out offline with cheats in the lobby menu, in-game, and with 'spawnai hans' or pat and 'nexttrack'.
>ywn drift in KF2

>tfw you're being a nice little firebug burning all the trash but your support doesn't kill the scrake and you die

Grrr

fragmentation rounds seems like a shit skill

maybe if it didn't have the damage penalty it would be good

>>152957690
See the thing about REU is that it boosts your damage where it matters. You don't actually need any boosts when shooting trash as your damage is already sufficient for that. In fact, the new REU gives leniency to bodyshotting trash or straight-up missing after scoring some counters – both of which being the main fears of the old mechanics.

>>152957690

You seem to be remembering the old REU.
The new REU on GS isn't like that at all.

>>152958240
isnt that perk still broken

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>>152957995

>KF2_Initial_D_Eurobeat_Pack.zip

You actually fucking did it.

>>152957691
Thanks for longposting.
I love aa12 at full auto with bunch of zeds in front of me, but those faster animations are so eye candy.

>>152957691
>tight choke
?

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>when you launch a nuke on wave one and make over 250 with one HX25 shot

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>>152958884

>>152957643
I've got a lot of time played with demo, play regularly on suicidal and have gotten my victory with it in HoE. I'll give a run down for each skill.

Level 5
[.] Bombardier - Bigger damage sounds great right? It's really not worth it for what it's competing against, unless you exclusively use C4 and dynamite.
[X] Shock Trooper - You reload faster with 4 out of 5 weapons. Demo weapons also have unique stumbles meaning you won't interrupt the tempo of your team as much.

Level 10
[X] High Impact Rounds - Since you didn't take Bombardier, you might as well take this. The ammo penalty is offset by what you get naturally.
[.] Extra Rounds - I still have ammo to spare even with High Impact Rounds so unless you spam at a Scrake this isn't needed. Also makes it cost more to auto-fill.

Level 15
[X] Sonic Resistant Rounds - Absolutely essential for how much these bitches scream.
[.] Fragmentation Rounds - This sounds like it COULD be useful, but it has a downside, why do you want to gimp yourself?

Level 20
[.] Armor Piercing Rounds - This is a really gimmicky skill that lets you take out Scrakes with point-blank rockets.
[X] Concussive Rounds - Going back to Shock Trooper, you have unique stumbles with your weapons. You want to capitalize on that.

Level 25
[X] Destroyer of Worlds - Triggers on practically every explosive and deals poison damage over time. You can stand in it and make trash panic instead of attacking you.
[.] Mad Bomber - This can actually fuck you over immensely. Blunt damage is more preferable than explosions in your face.

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>>152958830
Songs are just so good it got me pumped up and figured i'd do it myself and post it if anyone else wanted it.

>>152959076
extra reload speed is nice, but I don't really see myself needing it; 25% extra damage seems too good to give up.

same deal with extra rounds

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>>152958859
no problemo

>>152959076
i'll give this a try

Can you use SAM to max your levels like in KF1.

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>>152959204

>Throat singing

PRAISE TENGRI

The vampire skill now works with the katana but they didn't mention it in the patch notes.

Does the level 20 light attack skill work yet?

>>152958773
I dunno but it seems bad on paper anyway

what is commando / swat good for? only trash?

>>152946610
>not SAMing versus achievements

>>152960982
i'll probably SAM the versus achievements when the game goes live

>>152960895
Anti-gribbly is certainly their specialty. Pop pop poppin heads all day

>>152961168
>>152960982
You can start Versus games in solo via console, you know. Just start a map on super perk training with the versus gamemode and get EZ achievements.

what is the purpose of berserker?

>>152962190
Meatshield

>>152960895
when the fleshpound (etc) comes, you get all the critters around them so your team doesnt get overwhelmed. Everyone has to take out the trash but you are a dedicated trashman. Do not waste entire bullpup mags on Sirens, Bloats etc. unless its absolutely necessary. Someone else needs to put their penis inside of them. Fuck crawlers and clots and gorefasts all day.

Also, whether you have a varmint rifle or an ak or a scar, you are pretty good at your job. So you can get an AK and just coast giving DOSH to anyone who needs it.

Commandos should have the highest kill count, if you dont then you fucked up.

>>152958773
nope, they fixed it

its in the patchnotes somewhere

it's generally fine for trash

>>152962983
I'll have to give it a try next time I'm on then.

>obnoxiously large maps

who ever thinks this is a good idea?

>>152963565
dude mountain pass lmao

>>152963665
Best map

>>152959069
But why?

>>152963870
Seconded. Large and/or open maps are good. Most of KF2 is "hurrrdurrr in your face hahah dude zed teleports! XD" cancer.

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>>152963975
Mostly if you want your pellets to be more reliable in hitting single targets like scrakes and fleshpounds, especially at a distance so no need to get within dicks reach to have pellets contact.

Your other option is extra penetration which is nice, very rarely does it feel it'll take full effect but it kind of solidifies clearing slightly spread out groups in a shot or two. Really all its asking is "do you want tighter pellets or not?" and extra penetration is basically the "i'll keep the normal spread" option.
Not the original guy but I still prefer the default spread, its nice that the boomstick keeps its wide and with pride in case zeds come from multiple directions to surround you

>install patch
>lag out the ass
>can't reload with R
>can't melee
What the fuck

>>152966183
KFInput.ini is read-only

Why is the latest patch 5.9gb? Reading the patch notes, doesn't look like a 5.9gb patch at all.

>>152966358
Okay, and why does it break that? Most controls work, but not those. Why? They're not even different from the default ones!

>>152966793
>New map, new weapons, new perk, new cosmetics, new audio, etc
Gee I wonder

>>152967448
Isn't the game itself like 5gb? LOL

>>152967042
Because when TW makes changes that affect the KFInput and it can't it causes uninteded results.
It's best to have your KFInput backed up to a seperate folder and copy the settings after it's made the changes.

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>>152967542
No chance pal
Why is it so big, fuck the unreal engine

>>152967673
Jesus christ, 32gb?! Fuck me. Seems very inefficient.

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>still can't open USB or crate
Fuck you, I want to open this victorian USB you gave me

is kf 2 worth buying?
came out awhile ago and its still in Early access

>>152967542
Not the first time I've seen this meme and I don't get it. It was like 18gb on EA release.

>>152968070
I remember them saying 10 class in finished game, we have 9.
So we are probably one big update away from "full".

>>152968070
There's only 1 Perk left and the game will be out of EA, and yes it's pretty good now

>>152968070
it's a complete and fun game. I think its been a year since KF2 has had as many weapons/maps/classes as kf1 did at release.

>>152968070
comes out in november 18th

>no team deathmatch
wth, i hate tripwire now

Did they already say what Dragon will be about?

>>152969535
Martial Artist was scrapped, nobody knows what the 10th Perk will be now

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>wave 9 HOE
>COLLAPSING IN ON YOURSELF

Why do my settings and character skins keep resetting to default after every patch? Is there a way to stop it?

Support
Double-barrel Boomstick

what did they mean by this?

>>152971078
Nope, you just need to slap those cosmets back on

>>152971121
That its the greatest class and weapon?

>backup kfinput.ini
>change it to over from patch
>doesn't revert
Fuck me.

>>152971380
okay

>>152956813
tac reload for sure.

>>152968076
they've added stuff

also, custom maps take up a lotta space

>>152963565
could be cool if done right, I'm not a fan of the ones like cube where it's literally just a big box though

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>scrake walking towards team
>playing demo since it got buffed
>want to blunt RPG it to the dome
>walk right up to it with barely any space between us
>shoot the head
>RPG blows up in my face and I die
RRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>have lvl 25 commando
>still haven't beaten a map on suicidal with it

I can't tell if the achievement bugged out or something but I could have sworn I've beaten a suicidal map as commando, I've even done it on hell on earth

actually I feel like if you beat a map on HoE you should automatically unlock the achievements for the lower ones, I really don't feel like playing normal on all these perks I need the achievements for

>>152963565
>KF-Farm
>a flat map with a few buildings and crops scattered everywhere
>it's also dark so you can't see how shitty it really is
tripwire lmao

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>>152954541
>MP5's cocking handle doesn't move back and fourth when the gun is firing, it just stays completely static...
>>152954806
>the only time the cocking handle actually moves is when you're doing the reload animation on a full mag.
>what is a non-reciprocating charging handle

>>152973414
what is that picture of?

>>152973694
a man and his many watermelons

>>152972834
You can always launch a short solo game.

>>152960982
>>152961168
Why would you want to falsely display that you think vs was worth playing?

>>152972834
>actually I feel like if you beat a map on HoE you should automatically unlock the achievements for the lower ones,
Not just HoE, sui should skip normal and hard, and hard should skip normal.

>>152973910
true but I'm still not looking forward to it

>>152974884
yeah that's what I wanted to get at

>>152949057
It took them a few years to add a column for what wave the server was on for KF1, so if you think something in the KF2 server browser could use a quick improvement, don't get too hopeful.

Quick question. Some of my keys aren't working in-game. Such as grenade and reload (G and R respectively) however everything else seemingly works, such as crouch, sprint, jump, changing weapons.

Only happened since latest update.

>>152956813
Reloads before AA12, then big mags.
Those extra ten shots to dump in one zed time are nice.

>>152975880
>>152966358

>>152975880
means one of your .ini's is in read only

>>152976075
>>152976070
Ahhh, fuck. That would be it. Thanks, anons!

>>152975880
Happened for me too.
Problem was I set KFInput.ini to read only.

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>spectating someone in first-person doesn't show their weapons
>can't see you're own legs when you look down even thought there's a working mutator for it
>still no m32
>no endless or objective modes
>no VS updates/balancing to make it fun
>can't play higher than normal 4 waves for VS
>game is supposed to be finished in 3 months
>have to stay tuned for the 10th perk and whatever else TWI have up their sleeve

>>152976254
When I fixed it, I just deleted it and let the game replace it.
LookUpScale and LookRightScale being different as default was weird, this was a good reminder to equalize them.

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>>152976541

>Caring about VS in the first place.

>>152976735
Give us a kiss while you're still warm.

>>152976735

Not this shit again, Stalker.

>>152976663
>took 2 months to develop
>completely ignoring an official gamemode that will most likely be a big selling point of the full release for PS4 and new PC players
>implying sonybronies and pcucks won't ask how to git gud at pvp

>MP5RAS can be fired in full auto or 3-round burst
>fire selector clearly shows full auto and semi auto
"""GUN""" """""NUTS"""""

How do you get the new Horzine armour? It's also in KF1 IIRC but can't recall the name.

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>>152977460

>Competitive KF2 VS mode tournaments NEVER.

>>152978448
It was Wilkes, and you just need to get the game during EA
Update page says they'll sell a different version later on though

>>152978613
Mhm, it isn't in-game for me. I bought KF2 as soon as it came out. Or I'm fucking blind or something.

>>152978613

Basically, buy the game before November 18th and you'll have it.

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>>152978498

>>152978738
get this gay shit....out of here

>>152977961
AU-TISM

>>152978738
>24/7 Containment Station versus
Every time

>>152978676
Did you check your inventory just to make sure? It's an outfit for all characters, not a character itself

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So what's the general consensus on the latest update?
Personally, I think its by far the best incarnation of the game yet. Probably going to be a lot of fun once there isn't four level 0 swats in every server like there always fucking is after every content patch.

Only real neat-pick that I have is that the new zed behaviors made stalkers the most dangerous god damn enemies in the game by far which seems a bit strange, but that can probably be mitigated by just having a Commando in the squad.

is there literally any reason to choose increased stumble power perks?

I'm willing to buy the game for a friend and we intend to play by ourselves like we did on kf1, but it's just so weird.
Choosing "friends only" the game just looks for some random empty server and seize the server for ouselves? that doesn't look right
Also the tutorials on creating dedicated servers are a year old and really messy, are there some quickier ways out there already?

>>152947873
i know i'm 9hours late but
>fraps

>>152979146
To be a dick.

>>152977961
>>MP5RAS
Why'd they specify the ras when it's only used for a grip, but they piled tactical crap on everything else without mention?

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>>152978927

It's really good. SWAT's not bad (though I think it needs a rework to really shine), but the real winners are Demo and Support.

I like the new Stalker a lot. She's now a real threat and is unique instead of being "Invisible Clot with boobs". Makes Commando feel even more useful.

>>152979146
To make your life easier, and when I say "your" life I meant you alone, teammates don't need to benefit from it

>>152979551
Yeah detriment to teammates is the goal of coop shooters so stumbles are great and twi is great for adding lots of them.

>>152979537
>>152978927
My only problem with Stalkers is how many of them spawn together sometimes, I've had squads of like 8 Stalkers all flipping around and teleporting when I try to kite

How do I opt out of the beta? My KF2 is still in (preview) mode even though I downloaded the new update and checked to make sure I wasn't in the beta branch in the steam options

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>set gorefast on fire
>he starts blocking his head

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>>152979893
or is he dabbing because he's LIT?

>>152979893
believe it or not, covering his head reduces ALL damage he takes, not just projectile headshots

>>152979893
>gorefast raises arm to block
>my m79 doesn't explode him to bits

>>152978842
OH, shit. Some characters can use them. Thanks.

About time we get some armour.

>>152980286
Should be all characters, even though oisten's beard looks like shit with either piece.

>>152980387
The medieval guy can't use them.

>>152979852
That's better than 5 husks.

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>>152979893

>Gorefast walks through albino Crawler gas.
>Blocks head.

So why do the SWAT SMGs sound so hilariously weak?

>>152980448
Yeah but nobody cares about him, he has his own armour

>>152979852
>>152979537
>>152978927
what did they do to stalkers?

>>152980658
because they are SMGs

>>152980671
No matter. Back to based Foster. Was only using Mr.ShitMedievalGameGuy for the armour.

>>152980658
To fit what they are, instead of overlapping with commando too much.

>>152980682
>Only Zed that can still teleport
>Very hard to see unless you have your FX on Ultra settings
>Tries to dodge your shots just like Crawlers

>>152980892
get DBS or SMG and spray

>>152980789
They sound far worse in-game. I feel as if weapon sounds overall are better in KF1.

>>152980883
Most weapons (especially bullet weapons) sound poor. Realistically-speaking and feel-wise.

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>>152980682

They dodge a lot, are fast, the game tends to spawn a lot of them, and are a bitch to headshot once they start attacking.

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>>152981251
then there's only one solution.

This shit is randomly not responding on start up now!

>>152981010
Lots of the sounds feel pretty bad, but I think SWAT and Comm having exaggerated difference is good for gameplay.

"Realistically-speaking" for gun firing sounds is kinda bullshit anyways, since you can't and shouldn't instantly deafen players that set their volume reasonably, so it's always gonna be some kind of change from what a 13" barrel 308 inside a small concrete room would actually sound like. A consistent method of it being unrealistic is the best that could be hoped for.

>>152981982
>>152981010
They all sound pretty nice to me.

>albino crawler heads poke towards players
>shotgun blasts that tear apart their whole body make them not spray gas because the head was hit some milliseconds before the rest

>>152981010
you can't make a firearm sound "realistic" it's impossible

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>>152980454
git gud

>>152982880
Probably the dumbest post in this thread.

Even if that was true (kek) the guns sound and feel weak. Some games get it right. Others don't.

>no emotional flute in the OP
https://mega.nz/#!K8d0WRLK!jUe7gnE8jWEs6_lsskiUCBbNMVp4X_qwZPwmikUqSrc

>>152983147
you can't record a gunshot dummy

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>>152983428

>>152980170
>>152979893
>>152980248
based TWI

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>>152980682
>1 shot left in pump action
>shoot stalker
>fucking dodges it
>just knife the bitch instead

>>152983318
it's in the MEGA, though I am thinking of putting up a v2 soon with patched up delays

>>152983428
you can, it's just such a dynamic sound it requires multiple microphones and high end equipment, and even then you don't get the full feeling of it
and when it's being sent through a $20 Chinese headset, the end user will never notice

Anyone know how to get these guns to work in game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF-GWIKeISY
There must be a command somewhere for it.

On a similar note, is there a download for those RO2 guns that were ported?

>>152983147
How does a gun sound 'feel weak'?
It's just a gun sound, unless you have the exact same model gun and you're shooting it without hearing protection, how would you know?

>>152983147
i totally disagree, the gunplay is one of the few things tripwire got right from day 1

what do albino clots do

>>152983114
>emp pussy
How about a siren with them?

>>152983809
Sounds like a pee-shooter.

>>152983837
Gun SOUND, not play. No wonder why there's so many shit-posts, people can't read.

>>152983318
It's in the MEGA folder

>>152983891
you also said "and feel weak", so excuse me faggot.

>>152983891
>Sounds like a pee-shooter.
SMGs are pee-shooters, of course they feel weak.
Literally the weakest weapon type in the game.
If you want to feel strong, play support.

>>152983857
>Rally-boosted ZED takes less damage, inflict more damage and (for certain ZEDs on certain difficulties) able to sprint regardless from its pre-set settings. Rally boost has duration of 10 seconds. Additionally Rally instigators has their own damage multipliers (take less and do more damage for boost duration).

From the pastebin

>>152983857
battle-cry to rage nearby trash and fill the screen with holographic bracelets

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>>152984135

>Literally the weakest weapon type in the game.

>He hasn't killed a Scrake with the Kriss and a Flashbang.

>>152983858
you throw an EMP from further away
or you parry and tank the damage

>>152947465
>concussive over AP
literally why

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Okay tell me why gs recoil in zed time with fanfare is so huge,crosshair jumps like mad.

I literally can't headshot distant zeds

>>152984385

Gotta get dem clutch stumbles. :')

>>152983891
Apparently you can't read your own posts, because you said
>the guns sound and feel weak
>and feel weak
which suggests how the game PLAYS, you fucking retard.

>>152984215
>10 seconds

does tripwire honestly think that any zed ever gets to live for that long?

>>152984594
Sound is a feel.

kfgoobers THIS retarded.

>>152984287
>He hasn't killed a Scrake with the Kriss and a Flashbang on Solo Normal.
FTFY

>>152984779
Flashbang Kriss can decap 6p HoE Scrakes though, launch the testmap and try it yourself

>>152984385
its good for rounds 1-4 when there aren't scrakes to decap

can also be fun to absolutely fling a fleshpound across the map

>>152984705
considering it makes every zed (beside bosses, FP, scrake, and i think stalker) sprint the whole way it can mean anything can come up faster to rape your face
especially crawlers with their absurd dps output if they get close enough to hit

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>>152977961

>>152984872
>I can do it in a testmap, so that means I can do it while surrounded by dozens of other zeds in-game too!
No chance, pal.

>>152985108

I've seen it done in regular maps.

>>152985108
how shit are you to not know the basics of big zed elimination

>>152985108
>Implying the flashbang doesn't stuns the Zeds around the Scrake too
>Not having teammates clean trash while you take the Scrake out
>Not funneling Zeds behind the Scrake
>Not aggroing the Scrake and bringing it to an open space while teammates cover you

Nice to see you don't even play this game
>inb4 b but pubs

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>>152984914
>100 hp
>def boosts on parry
>run past the corner
>2 husks
>husks insta uses flame
>get burnt in 1 second

Couldn't even get to bash them

>>152985303
>>Not having teammates clean trash while you take the Scrake out
That's Support's job, YOU'RE the one that's supposed to clear the trash.

>>152985402
bash isn't even reliable anymore for interrupting
best course of action against husks is to just target the backpack since its health pool is smaller than the head health and it takes 1.5x damage

how much does this game improve on kf one?
Really tempted to buy it seeing as its on discount currently but If I remember right people said it sucked when it first came out.

>>152985689
it's like KF1 but faster basically
it doesn't have the same crusty-ass 2000's graphical style

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>>152985576
It works with katana bash which interrupts them and stops flame attack instantly.

Also I am doing it as any other perk when I run and if there is a bloat in front of me blocking my way, simply bashing him stops him from vomiting on you for few seconds. Very usefull for kiting.

>>152985453
>moving goalposts
It's still a very possible and reliable strategy whenever you like it or not.

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>>152986090
well it isn't as consistent as before, where any bash from any weapon resulted in a stumble
the way they rescaled bash damage is hilariously stupid

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>tfw temporarily not totally fucking ded

>>152989165
>mostly people leveling SWAT on superperktrainer just to drop the game again until the next perk

>>152989317
Can't blame them 2bh, swat is just 4 smgs: the class. Don't really feel any burning need to play it after couple few times

SWAT shield when.
I'm not even sure how it would work and be viable

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>>152989317
>how did you get SWAT to lvl24 in 2 days? srsly dude? get a girlfriend :DDD lol u maddd nigga :D :D :D :D

>>152990160
Same. It was really fun at first but unless they new weapons or change some skills around I don't see much of a reason to pick it over other perks.

I liked swat. It's fragile even with the armor thing, but the smgs are nice and kill quickly. Very nice headshooter for mid-range, while commando is great for long-range.

I'm still adapting and dying a bit, though

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>>152942953
>tfw I bought this shirt from twi
>fell for the shilling

Now that the patch is out is there any point in staying on the preview mode or does that only limit who I end up with?

>>152990760
>anon wishing for his abuse fantasy to finally come true

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>new class
>FUCKING SWAT HOLY SHIT
>"here's your smg lol"

th-thanks TWI

>>152992185
Enjoy your p90!

>>152991576
The preview is over. Check the betas page on the game properties and restart Steam, that should reset the name on your library.

>>152992185
Kriss is pretty fun desu

With or without skills in consideration, whats some of the best classes for starting a new game with for the first 1-2 rounds? Like something that starts you with armor or a really good trash clearing weapon with high ammo.

>>152993002
SWAT, you spawn with 100 armor, MP7 is pretty good for the first wave and you can sell the 2nd 9mm you get for even more dosh

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>>152993002
>Like something that starts you with armor or a really good trash clearing weapon with high ammo.
how about both, and dualies?

>>152984575
>>152984875
I haven't been able to find any stumbles/stuns/KDs that work with the skill, as opposed to without, though

What does picking it actually do?

>>152992185
yoshiro said they experimented with a shield but it would be something they would have to do post-release, so probably 2019 or so

I want to rim demo-girl

swat skills are fucking boring and looks like a mish mash of two other perk but with only 2-3 perks really only related to SWAT

>>152952973
le 3 fleshpounds hiding behind 2 scrakes face

game conductor fucks your over by giving you wave 2 scrakes and not letting up

>>152994005

Even the special SWAT skills, like Heavy Armor Training, kinda suck.

>>152993509
>NOT ENOUGH DEV DAYS, STAY TUNED
Typical Yoshiro

>>152994571
in their defense, a shield would be an entirely new mechanic that wouldn't be easily balanced.

>>152973414
>what is a non-reciprocating charging handle

I thought a MP5 would work like a G3 since I used a G3 as a conscript... i feel ashamed now.

but I still think it's cheesy when you're doing the empty mag full reload that the charging handle stays static but the hand animations suggest you're slapping it down.

https://youtu.be/Xq8uyB091Dw?t=1m26s for reference

OP here from >>152996025
>charging handle stays static but the hand animations suggest you're slapping it down.

I'm fucking retarded. On the empty mag reload, the charging handle is pulled back then fourth.

I'm just going to stop now as I'm making myself look more and more like a idiot.

There is a glitch for all weapons, though, where part of the empty status remains active after you get more ammo, that may have been what you saw.

>>152996025
>>152996934
The non tactical full reload animation consists of the charging handle being locked back, changing the mag then slapping the charging handle forward.

The tactical reload is where the mag is changed and the charging handle is cocked back then forward really quickly.

>>152994774
>bash is in the game
>armor is in the game

easy

>use with pistols
>raise shield
>100% armor is displayed, chipping away when enemies hit it
>bash button uses shield, guaranteed zed stumble but uses a bit of armor

>>152997364
also, repair shield after round

>>152997364
>bash button uses shield, guaranteed zed stumble but uses a bit of armor
So it's worse than a normal stumble?

>>152997364
That and maybe some neat way to charge through packs of zed and make them stumble or fall down.

>>152993914

I want to rim a Stalker.

>>152997719
I bet battering ram is a leftover from their halfassed quick attempt at a shield.

Anons, is shooting RPGs at an already-raged Scrake a good idea? I've seen a lot of Demos do it in Suicidal.

>>152998104
Unless you want him alive yes

>>152997364
bash and damage reduction with limited firepower, okay.

so why would I take a shield over a rifle or a berserker with block/parry?

the problem is making it mechanically viable, otherwise you get shit like welding which everyone laughed at for a year and a half until they gave up and said "fuck it, doors break but now you can repair the doors back" Or you know, like the eviscerator which is a solid weapon but nobody picks it up because it doesn't mesh with the mechanics of the class that has it.

Why would I take a shield+9mm when I can take a 100 round smg and mow down an entire horde then melee bash whatever big thing is still standing and reload while a commando/sharp/gunslinger deals with it?

>>152942953
the fuck? swats been out for awhile now. that's not news.