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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生 / Shin Megami Tensei General

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>SMTIV Final/SMTIV Apocalypse information
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D

Participate in the new /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy

>running Giten Megami Tensei in windowed mode with Chiitrans:
http://pastebin.com/T6KkHxW7

Last Thread:
>>152570416
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All Lawfags must be purged
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Purge Naoyafags and their meme route let's make DeSu great again.
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>>152942474
Naoya's route has the cover and is the popular one, stay mad faggot.
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>>152906726
>Danu will remain a benevolent goddess for thousands of years.
>remain

>>152918246
>Massacre and Bonds really doesn't align with either chaos or law.
>It's just Good/Evil basically.
Yes, in that order.

>>152920381
The neutrals wouldn't be neutral though because demons are backing them up. It's always the humans doing these things, the one responsible for activating the Reactor in the Law ending is Flynn/Nanashi same with the other endings, so if anything either all endings are not neutral or all endings are neutral.
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>>152942474
Mastema pls leave
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>>152942260
why he didnt juat edit his paste idk

fixed ver i guess

>running Giten Megami Tensei in windowed mode with Chiitrans:
http://pastebin.com/V2VS2pqg
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http://www.miicharacters.com/?_form=searchform&terms=persona&search=Find+Miis&searchfields%5B%5D=n&searchfields%5B%5D=t
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>>152943884
>OMG all the persona characters are LITERALLY ME! XD
Who thought this was a good idea?
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>>152943884
The Igor and Persona 2 ones were good.
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i still wanna make smt tomodachi island, but its so much work
http://tomodachi.wikia.com/wiki/Personality
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>>152319864
Bunny, expensive Frost, janky old P4 ones, and Aegis are all you get.

If you want robot waifus, go for the Parform master race.
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>>152942569
Demons are always backing you up. Unless you do endings with no demonic assistance in the story at all and no demons are EVER in your party.

That's not even possible unless you live in Majin Tensei II where they do exactly that. Humans for humans sealing the three worlds off from each other forever.

And the Neutral Hero and Law/Chaos Heroine kill themselves ro ma,e it possible.
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>>152942652
Ugh

http://pastebin.com/5qaYUwQi
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>>152945151
>tfw nendoroidfag

I don't like how they didn't bother with P3 and P4 protag nendos.

I stopped collecting figma because of crazy prices and ridiculous schedule slips but might make an exception for P3 protag.
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>>152942260
Could someone give the complete SMT 4 save to me? The one some anon here did.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t8AtV0Oov8
>you will never hang out with your digital friends in the digital world
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>>152942260
Anyone >>152902807 ?
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>>152942652
>>152945686
I don't have a pastebin account, so it was easier for me to just create a new paste. Sorry for the trouble.
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>>152953617
>targeting the delicious brown thigh
good aim
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>>152942171
>And the walls kept crumbling down in the city that we loved
Tokyo
>great coulds roll over the hills bringing darkness from above
Demons swarming

>But if you close your eyes does it feel like nothing's changed at all
Humans still being the worst dicks despite adversity is a recurring theme

>does it almost feel like you've been here before?
Every mainline SMT and half spinoffs is in Tokyo with similar thematics.
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>>152957319
kek
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So, I had an idea yesterday for a new SMT. Hear me out.

Nocturne 2.
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Nocturne, DDS 1 and 2 are on sale on PSN right now. Does DDS 2 run like shit too?
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>>152958742
DDS1 runs shitty, 2 is fine except some very intense attack animations (I only ever had a problem with one, enemy exclusive one)
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>>152957519
Since SMTIV is basically a reboot of I and Final is kinda reboot of II... hmmm
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>>152942552
I don't think the cover is meant to be Naoya route. He has a red cape there, rather than black (or white for Amane).
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>>152960421
Imagine a game about leading Lucifer's army to Heaven to fight YHVH, climbing your way up higher and higher and just laying waste to everything.
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Are you ready for Apocalypse? Just three more days, bros!
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>>152953468
It's not here.

I don't know if anyone has it.
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>>152961801
Pretty hype. Can't wait for the reactions and disappointment (of True SMT Fans™).
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>>152960992
YHVH =/= Great Will
>>152961801
What are you talking about, baka?
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>>152958742
Europe PSN? Can't find anything here.
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>>152962297
Yes.
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>>152961801
>Just three more days, bros!
What?
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>>152962338
Well, this sucks.

Catherine is on sale on US PSN right now, so who knows, maybe next week we will get one too.
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>>152953468
The voices are there in the downloads pastebin: https://mega.nz/#F!31NhAaRI!mForkyMX0HgcVKRu57NWHA
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>>152962013
>>152962171
>>152962617
Oh, I meant that after years of planning I finally created a COMP.

Look forward to it guys.
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>>152963761
SMT GO confirmed?
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>>152965568
YeNO
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>>152965898
Hardin you don't make the games.
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Podst demonfu
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Who wants to join my dudebro atheist club?
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>>152970174
Fuck off memer you're just as bad as the christfags.
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hee ho?
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>>152973416
Cute Frost
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/smtg/ creates an anime picked up by Trigger.

How would you do it
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>>152969143
>not posting best version
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>>152974479
I'd force them to make Inferno Cop 2, fuck Megaten.
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>>152975087
>they didn't use this design

THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU ATLUS
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So persona is really the future of SMT...

Woah
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>>152969143
Literally best Titty monster of Final
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>>152975087
>They dropped this
For what purpose?
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>>152977635
Botflies is the first thing that comes to mind.
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>>152977951
It wasn't accurate to muh mythology.
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Wake up.
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>>152969143
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>>152969143
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>>152969143
How can others even compete?
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>>152981518
Her body is nice but the burka is a huge turnoff.
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I just picked up Soul Hackers, what do I need to know going in
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>>152978915
And then there would be many faggots among the fanbase crying about it.
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>>152983540
The pastebin tips
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>>152983234
Fuck you for stealing my post and my demonfu.
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Behold the tit cow.
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>>152984708
MUH
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Pixie a cute! CUTE!
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>>152983560
Is there really a fanbase that care about mythology? Even Kaneko wasn't really accurate on certain demons. I don't remember Satan being described as a titty monster in the bible.
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>>152984906
dat man haircut tho
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>>152985008
That's the best partand also my fetish.
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let's see how good you're at DeSu

What is the correct skills that should be fused into this demon?
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>>152985295
But I only played Overclocked.
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>>152985295
Berserk
Bufudyne

Phys Boost.
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>>152985295
>playing desu
>ever
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>>152984975
Satan is still one of his best designs imo. And it's still sort of approriate, what with having six of everything.
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>>152985846
Playing the first one/Overclocked is fine.

I avoid the 2nd like the plague.
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>>152986054
Loving this meme being supported by people who only played DeSu and SMT IV on their 3DS
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>>152986173
Buddy, i've played Soul Hackers, Nocturne, SJ and currently on Digital Devil Saga.
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Have no fear, best girl of IV is here!
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>>152986330
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>>152978072
She's supposed to be a multiboobed fertility goddess trying to get nips to procreate.
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>>152985846
>>152986054
>nemissa will never take your v-card away
why live
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>decided to visit /pg/
>what does Anne butthole smell like?
>i want to lick Makoto cunny
>i want to smell Futaba feet
>i wanto to Haru to sit on my face
>i want to fuck ____
>no discussion of the game itself, ever

What the fuck is wrong with those people? Holy shit.
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>>152986576
kaneko really liked bowie did he?
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>>152986919
It's their version of Hoy.
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>>152986592
Nice argument
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>>152986924
I thought Lucifer was supposed to be David Bowie while Lilith is Gozer from the original ghost busters.
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>>152986719
Makes sense.
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>>152986919
What should they discuss? The game isn't out yet
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>>152986919
On the topic of /pg/, what the fuck is it with them talking about Anne & doing lewd things to her & something about colored men.
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>>152988357
They're probably swedish.
>>152988134
Previous entries in the series?
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>>152988357
>talking about Anne & doing lewd things to her
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>>152989193
Never Ever
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>>152989615
The helmet isn't smiling.
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>>152989730
Look closer
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>>152989842
It's not smiling, that's just a pointless ravine in the helmet. The real mouth of the helmet is below it.
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>>152990082
It looks like a smiley though.
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>>152986784
>Get into the match-making quiz at the begging of the game
>Got Nemissa answering honestly
I feel accomplished

Quick Everyone, name your top 3 human SMT girls:

Nemissa, Fumi, Sera
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>>152969143
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>>152990789
>Nemissa
>human
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>>152991320
In the body we see her, yes she's human.
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>>152991383
>In the body we see her, yes she's human.
Then this can be legit as well.
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>>152969143
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>>152990789
Heroine
Argilla
Isabaeu
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>>152990789
Amane, Miyako, Zelenin
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>>152969143
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Hey /smtg/ I'm going through soul hackers for the first time and I just got past the astro museum before I read the tips and tricks I put all of the MCs points into STR. Can I still have a viable MC by the end of the game if I pump the rest of my points into LU and AG?

>I fell for the "wurld of STR" meme
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>>152987216
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>>152992698
Just focus on Vit and Ag for a while and you should be good. MC is never gonna be great in Soul Hackers unfortunately, but I wouldn't say your far enough to be screwed or anything.
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>>152992386
I said waifu not hasubando.
>>152992928
Well meme'd my friend
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>>152993319
Okay then.
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>>152993530
Female protagonist for SMT V, screencap.
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>>152993683
More importantly when will we finally get a transgender protagonist?
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>>152993109
>>152992698
I should have also added that the main goal is making the Mc able to tank a hit and I meant En, not Vit. You probably don't want to neglect luck, but En is far more important if you've pumped everything in str so far.
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>>152990789
Nemissa, Sera, Beth
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>>152984975
If people can shitpost because they think that the main cast of SMT IV look like Power Rangers, you sure as hell can tell that someone would bitch over the mermaid looking like a schoolgirl that paid a visit to Hot Topic.

And what we got is already hot and subtle.
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>>152969143
>>152991751

>>152990789
Argilla
Rei Reiho
Tae Asakura
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>>152993530
Hot.
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>>152994151
>If people can shitpost because they think that the main cast of SMT IV look like Power Rangers
You mean Final or what?
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>>152992698
>>152993109
My favorite build in SH is LUCK and VIT, because luck already gives you a reasonable amount of agility every time you dump 3 points into luck or so. And obviously you will want your MC to survive any hit.

STR is really not that useful because Hacker can only ever do a simple attack command. And at most you can give him a magic sword which is still not so great (anyone could try to prove me wrong though).

You could reset since you are very early in the game, but it is not such a fuck up either if you decide to carry on. Just make sure to have 10 MA by the endgame if you want to equip the Hacker's ultimate gear.
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>>152994812
Vanilla IV.

But you're better off not knowing the context of why I brought it up.
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>>152992698
Started it a couple of days ago and put like 7 lvls into Ma before realizing that he can't actually cast shit. Imagine my pain.
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>>152994359
Why can't we have more women like Rei or Nemissa anymore?

I'm bored of only getting dumb teenager waifus in the games.
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>>152994151
>If people can shitpost because they think that the main cast of SMT IV look like Power Rangers
Nobody ever said that.
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>>152995257
Because get with the times, grandpa. 90s are deader than dead, nobody wants your bitches in edgy business suits and heels, we want pantsu and cuteness.
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>>152995538
At least I have KoF to fill that niche.

But it's still not the same.
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>>152946938
I don't even want to think about figmas. I've pretty much given up on Nendos due to my losing appeal. I just want the Black Rock Shooter ones.
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>>152953617
If you just keep making new ones, there's no point in adding it to OP. Hopefully whoever makes the next one changes to the most recent.
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>>152988357
>>152989183
Pretty sure they used to join in with tumblr land crying about An being transgender originally.
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>>152999076
Wait really? Please tell me you're joking.
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>mfw playing Devil Summoner after starting with IV

holy fuck this is so much more confusing

demons never want to negotiate and they all hate that I fused an angel
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>>152999076
I need context on this
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>>152999076
No. The meme is that the receding hairline girl is a tranny.
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>>152999587
I'm not joking that it was a thing. But I guess they've moved on to another girl. >>153000507
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>>153000507
What receding hairline girl? I've been following it for a while and I don't remember that character.
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>>153000971
I think its the one that isn't Futaba
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>>153001263
Haru?
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>>153001331
Yes
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>>153000971
The girl with the fedora the milady persona, it started because someone on /pg/ posted a screenshot of this https://www.reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/4spysm/persona_5_theory_is_haru_transgender_xpost/
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Word of Advice, in SMT if using the Orden Patch, if you had hundreds of thousands of Yen before you left Kongokai by exploiting the item shop glitch before defeating Thor, it will be converted into Bundles of Yen. See the old man at one of Shinjuku's Bars to convert it into Macca to free up space.
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>>153001476
>Leddit
It all makes sense now.
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>>153001476
THEORY: Haru from Persona 5 is either intersex or transgender


We’ve preivously seen a lot of symbolism of personal frustrations and stories within the characters Persona designs, and I’m suspecting Haru may be no different.

Looking at her Persona, we see two features IMMEDIATELY. One is the frill around her waist, where her torso emerges. The multilayered, frilled teardrop has obvious yonic symbolism, complete with the dagger hanging from the tip as a sort of mock clitoris. We also have the cannons emerging from the “mouth” on Milady’s dress, an obvious phallic detail.

Second note: The Phantom’s as ideal selves. There seems to be some amount of wish fulfillment in the designs of the Phantoms. Yusuke shows his full artistic theatricality, Anne is a publicly sexual being, Makoto fully expresses her agression….and Haru has visible breasts. I’m serious, I know it sounds odd, but look at her day clothes vs. thief clothes. They’re suddenly there.

Third Point: Everyone’s an outcast. We have at least three confirmed outcast archetypes in the cast. Anne is biracial (a big point of “otherness” in Japan), Ryuji is a Yankii, and Futaba is a Hikikomori. If we keep up this pattern (assuming that perhaps Yusuke’s Inari and kabuki symbolism might indicate gay/bi, and Pope Joan indicates a “working woman” plotline for Makoto), then an Intersex/Transgender Haru would make a certain amount of sense.

Feel free to reply with thoughts or critique, but try to keep it respectful considering the sensitive topics. Thank you for reading!
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>>153001476
What did Persona do to earn the tumblrista crowd?
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>>153003376
Kanji
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>>153003376
As with most things, you blame Persona 4.

>>153003502
And Naoto.
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>>152999791
>fusing an angel
What the fuck is wrong with you!? You asshole.
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>>153003542
Persona 4 was a conservative game. Did the tumblristas missed the part where the IT suddenly stopped rebelling against the status quo around Level 8 or 9 of their S.Links?
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>>153003502
>>153003542
This is why we need edge.

It drives these crowds away.
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>>153003994
They fight to make their mental illnesses part of the status quo.
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>>153003994
They only watch the anime and LPs.
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>>153004491
Don't all the LPs do endurance runs anyways? they would still need to know the S.Links.
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Does anyone have that webm of Nyx Avatar getting healed by Aigis?
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>>153004194
But then you'll have newfags trying to "call you out." It happens all the time, especially at /v/ and /b/.
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>>153006180
Didn't that happen with Yukari more though?
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>>153005171
Even in places like these, anons still can't make up their minds in whether Kanji is gay or not.

I can only imagine that in tumblr that debate and sentiment are much more intense.
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>>153006364
Yea but there is one Aigis one I see a lot since it happened to some guy on stream and he rage quit.
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/smtg/ persona general sub general
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>>153006962
Then stop being a passive bitch and post something more interesting to discuss.
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So, was Inanna right to be pissed at Danu?
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Why was he the only good chaos hero?
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Did Flynn get screwed out of everything in Final?
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Am I gay?
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>>153005171
That doesn't stop headcanons.
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Persona is the future of SMT.
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>>153008758
Someone already posted that
>>152976634
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>>153008495
Yes.

You cannot escape your hunger, warrior of purgatory.
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>>153009267
Post hunger.
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Bead Chain
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>>153012004
ded
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Mazionga
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Tarukaja
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Look who came in the mail today.
Satan should be coming tomorrow
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When can you get the skill "extra charge", the one that doubles your damage during extra turns? Which demons have it?

pic related
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>>153016686
Gouto falls over if you look at him funny.
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>>152942260
Can somebody share the graph where it shows the various smt/persona games and where to get started?
I had it once but ive been through the last 2 threads and it hadnt been shared
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>>153018242
Read the OP.
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>"I'm not actually death"
Is it too late to get a refund? This is the biggest letdown since MGS2.
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>>153016770
I don't remember when you get it, but I'd guess one of the 8th days, probably Amane since you fight more humans there.

It's not on any demons as far as I know, I remember trying to get one with it but never finding any.
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>>153018439
What game?
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>>153019375
Persona 4.
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>>152942260
Eriko a best.
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>>153022679
An angelic bringer of victory!
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Elly is a lawfag
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>>153024814
As all good girls are.
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>>153022679
>>153024520
why are ponytails so superior bros
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>>153016686
>Satan should be coming tomorrow.

I hope you have lots of this.
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What happens with the gaians and the messians in the bonds ending, smtg? Do they all drop their religion? Or does danu somehow become the god OF their religions.

Honestly, the bonds ending is what neutral should have always been like. Actually have real gods as representatives. Pity it had to be the same game as they shafted every other ending.
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>>152995257
because assertive women are lesbians nowadays.
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>>153016686
>>153025517
and he doesn't mean hotglue, he means that Satan figure tends to come with broken wings
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>>153024990
stop trying to be mary, dammit
you were better as you were...
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>>153027528
I know. Hoping it doesn't come too banged up.
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>>152995257
Because it's not 90s anime any more. Nobody respects the rule of cool or wants the exotic. We couldn't have fruity gay hackers, high energy Thai food dealers, mystic Indian vision quests, swarthy fortune tellers, etc. For several reasons we rejected the grandiose joy of pulp, and if we can't create worlds like that, we aren't going to get minx-like dangerous yet playful women or lantern jawed manly men worthy of them.
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All this Erikoposting makes me want to play P1 again. Rolling for my build.
0-3 - world of lck
3-6 - world of str
6-9 - world of dex
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>>153029040
Have fun.
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>>153029415
Thanks, anon. With some good luck, I should have a great time.
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>>153027528
te va a pegar tu abuelita wey
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>>153028976
You made me realize another reason why I like SH so much.
The world has this great combination of a cyberpunk-ish urban environment with an exotic touch thanks to the game taking place in a big city, and that there is some ancient mysticism hiding underneath all of it.

It would be great to have more Devil Summoner games.
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>>153030319
I remember that anon.

He comes from a family of well educated christianfags who are ok with having that figurine chilling out with the rest of the religious figures.
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>>153030319
English translation?
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>>153030853
Oh, my mother is not really ok with it, she just knows she cannot stop me.
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>>153030962
I love the pleasure of being cummed inside.
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>>153031082
post pics?
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>>153031070
YOU CAN'T CONTROL YOUR HUNGER

But fuck you for lying to me on the internet.
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>>153030962
>your grandmother is gonna punch you in the dick
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>>153031126
That's me on the right.
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>>153031192
I didn't really lie, it's just that things have changed. She joined a small religious group based around reading the rosary every day. She's a psychologist so she has drawn a lot of new clients from it. The side effect is that she's now more theological about stuff. She has blamed my misfortune on that Satan figure recently, actually, to which I just reply "that's not something someone with university studies should be saying".
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>>153031082
>>153031193
MUH
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>>152986924
a lot of people liked Bowie
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>>153031358
Did you tell her that satan is law aligned?
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>>152976634
I'm just really glad P5 is digging around in it's roots a bit more.

Demon negotiation is the bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbomb
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>>153030319
>abuelita
que língua horrorosa
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>>153031605
multiple times. I even told her that "satan" doesn't even refer to the devil, but rather it's just a title that means "adversary" and that it can mean many different figures. She forgets in 30 minutes, so nowadays I just go "it's just a video game character".
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>>153031740
That's why you shouldn't have said satan to begin with. You should have said "jewish angel of judgement."
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>>153031853
But it's fun to see her reactions. I am known to challenge religious people with religion, the local monthly Jehovah's witness skips my house because of me.
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How do I beat this fucker when I'm neutral?
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>>153031943
>But it's fun to see her reactions. I am known to challenge religious people with religion
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>>153032054
Christfag detected
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>>153032054
I'm actually catholic, it's just amazing how little about Catholicism some seem to know about while calling themselves devout believers, and how people lose the sense to religion in their attempts to follow it properly.
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>>153032183
>only christfags hate fedoras.

You can't be older than 16.
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>>153031987
Fire/whatever it's weak to. Demons of the same alignment as you or each other. Have them know moves that Ourobouros is weak to. Have a demon that nulls/reflects the move it uses the most/is most deadly. Have a demon that is difficult to kill and has a party-wide healing skill like Mediarama/rahan/Salvation. Use a ring that will benefit you in the fight.
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>>153032247
Are you a lawfag or a chaosfag?
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>>153032334
Neutralfag. I like both Law and Chaos too much.

But if given the choice of only Law or Chaos, I'd definitely go Law.
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>>153032248
You seem to have never gone on /pol/ before.
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>>153032507
And that's a... bad thing?
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>>153032554
Implying incorrect implications is.
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>>153032247
Catholicism is a hebrewfied mix of native european beliefs you can hardly dismiss it's beliefs by going back to its semitic roots.
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>>153032247
Yeah, that's true, a lot of people blindly follow religion and only gain information about their beliefs through osmosis. It's a shame too, since religion is so interesting if you really read into it. As for why people cast harsh judgements while not fully understanding their beliefs themselves, I think it's either a form of virtue signaling or an attempt at soothing their conscience and convincing themselves that they are good people.
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>>153032635
I don't go that far most of the time. I just challenge the concepts. For instance, the Jeovah's Witnesses every single time said that "we should prepare for the end of our lives and judgement of god" to which I argued if it was worth it to believe in a version of god that constantly subjected you to fear and punishment as opposed to one that offered forgiveness and salvation. I also added that if my current lifestyle sends me to hell then I am completely accept it for it should be my fair judgement. I live a honest lifestyle not believing what they do and if that sends me to hell by their standards then their god is just as flawed as any human being.

Likewise, many people do not seem to know the hierarchy of angels while talking about them, and if you read many books about "angelology" they also have it very differently to what is in the book of Enoch which you fucks here convinced me to read, which was the one thing that sent me down the road of actually reading the bible. I swear SMT has only brought me closer to my religion than anything else.

I am just disturbed at how Catholicism is such a peaceful, beautiful religion that teaches many things that are very close to proper ethics and axiological values and with an awesome mythology, and then there are people who abuse it and misread it to justify their own moral or/and push it on others.
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>>153033306
Why not also read about buddhism? You can employ many of the techniques and philosophies while also still being catholic.
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>>153033306
>teaches many things that are very close to proper ethics
>putting your penis near a man's asshole means you deserve infinite punishment because it violates its "natural end" which is to only ejaculate in vaginas when married. Nevermind that it ejaculates on its own at random times whether or not you make it, and this has nothing to do with nature. Just an assumption that things that things can do they need to do all of at once... but only aesthetically.
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>>153033510
Because I study medicine, I no longer have as much time to read about fun stuff anymore... if I want to keep playing video games anyways. Don't worry, though, my university gave us an Ethics course and I have a teacher that is a doctor with military training. Fucker will make me read the goddamn Quran.

>>153033653
That's the old testament, and even then it makes sense. Back in the dessert of the Mediterranean, with a low child suitability rates and barbaric nations ready for war on every border, you had to make sure your able men do not start preferring boipussy over actual pussy. We need to keep the workload strong. That's also why it's banned to eat pork, because they can cause horrible diseases (read up cycticercosis)
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>>153033870
>That's the old testament,

No its not you retard. Its official catholic teaching, which according to catholic concepts of "infallibility" can never change. In fact, the old testament was MORE lenient in terms of what sex you were allowed. The punishments were just harsher.
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>>153033653
As an apatheist, even I find homosexuality gross.
But I would argue there isn't much reason to persecute homos,
seeing as how they're literally population control for now.
>>153033870
Wow, that's legitimately interesting, do you have any passages? It's interesting from a christfag's perspective.
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>>152985883
Not according to retards like Stealing Knowledge because muh 666 is related to the Beast of Revelations who isn't a servant of YHVH and one that serves YHVH isn't conceivable in his eyes.

I mean I like old Titty Monster Satan over Red Dragon Satan but all Satans serve YHVH except in DeSu2 where he's fallen and YHVH is a nobody replaced with countless Alien YHVHs.
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>>153033990
Ahh, details. My point was that it is understandable an understandable practice, it had a purpose beyond just ideology or them being dicks. Times are changing, and so is religion along it's people. Soon you'll be able to put your dick in gay and less people will bat an eye. Hopefully it never becomes seen as normal, though.

>>153034086
Of the Quran, not yet as that's later in the semester. Currently we're going through the beginning of civilization through agriculture.
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>>152960992
Devil Children did that actually.

Gates of Heaven, followed by Grass Fields ruled by Jesus Pope, then giant fucking gemstones floating in space that angels live on, with a city as the second highest peak, and finished with the Eternity Palace.
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>>153034261
Of all the possible boards to troll, why are you trolling smtg?
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>>153033990
>>153034316
Buttblasted homo confirmed. But honestly, not all catholics believe in infallibility, that's just the retarded ones. Not christfag anon btw.
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>>153034316
if only the whole site had philosophical trolling, rather than just resorting to calling everyone "cuck".
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>>153034381
You're not really "allowed" not to. I mean, sure, you can not do so anyways, but at that point why pretend what you're doing is catholicism.
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>>153034261
No I meant the bible.
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>>153034412
This isn't really philosophical trolling. Its weird long comments that don't say anything other than weird fetishization of Catholicism.
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>>153034530
Now I understand >>153032248 completely,
you're either a ledditor or a dumblrina.
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>>153034640
Who are you even trying to troll though? I don't get what's going on.
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>>153033653
look at the 80's and how high the STD infection rate of unprotected anal sex is and will find the reason why most societies were so against male homosexual practices
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>>153034721
That wasn't christfag.
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>>153033653
>having sex while not being married is wrong
>marriage is between a man and a women
>therefore having gay sex is wrong
It's not that hard to grasp my dude. Besides, why can't everyone just try to be celibate and focus on worshiping the Lord instead of focusing on Earthly affairs? If you can't handle that, then you need to step up your game imo.

>>153034261
Make sure to have a Quranic encyclopedia with you when you read it. Unlike the Bible, they don't put notes that tell you what certain things mean, you need to figure it out yourself. This one is pretty good, I used it myself when I was reading it.

http://www.ebooks.rahnuma.org/religion/Quran/Encyclopedia_of_Quran.pdf
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>>153034470
Hmm, I don't recall anything in particular that struck me. Matthew, the whole thing, perhaps.
It's been a while since I last gave it a read, let me check tomorrow if I recall something in particular.
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>>153035015
Just remember to post if you do.
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>>153033306
>there are people who abuse it and misread it to justify their own moral or/and push it on others.
sounds like you are talking about real christians
mr. no true scotsman
>>153034086
>apatheist
Arent you a unique little snowflake atheist
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>>153035151
You do know that saying apatheist is just saying "I don't give a fuck if god exists or not." You'd have a point if you said agnostic though. Stupid homosexual.
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>why can't everyone just try to be celibate and focus on worshiping the Lord instead of focusing on Earthly affairs
because homosexual subculture is rooted on promiscuity and decadent hellenistic glorification of sex. No shit homosexuals would rather make a scene than live a celibate life.
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Who the fuck is brigading.
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>>153035430
No one. You're just autistic.
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>>153035151
>someone clearly going against what their faith professes
>someone calls them out on that
>another person claims that's a no true scotsman fallacy
If someone visits Scotland, and they pretend to live there, calling them out on not being a scotsman is not a fallacy.
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>>153035151
I focus on the idea, not on the people.

>>153035358
while that's a harsh way to put it, I do believe homosexuality as a culture is rotten because it's based around turning a sexual preference into a lifestyle. That's little different from furries, thinking about it.
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pero que autismo mas grande, caballero
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>>153035662
This is trumpland we speak america.
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>>153035740
>Implying it isn't happening already.
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If I summon a demon out of the compendium will I still get a D-source?
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>>153035151
>calling someone a mr. no true scotsman while strawmanning this hard
Try again kid
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>>152942260
So which game do you guys recommend for an smt beginner? Which one is worth the pirate?
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>>153035334
I'll break it down real simple for the shortbus kids
if you dont even onsider the question if god exists
then you by definition would not believe in him
pretty simple huh

also agnosticism focuses on a question of knowledge not belief therefore you could be an agnotic christian or atheist

3/10 I can tell you are trying to comprehend
If you can escape being underage banned for a a few more years
and grow out of your edginess
maybe then we can have a real conversation
>>153035539
>talks about not caring if he goes to hell or not and how god is only about forgiveness and not punishment
Claims to be a true christian kek
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>>153036640
The only thing I'm trying to comprehend is the levels of your stupidity. All your replies are nothing but fallacies, homosexuality and autism. Your dad seriously needs to beat the stupidity out of you. Not acknowledging something is not the same thing as disbelieving. As an example, think of your middle school years.
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>>153036570
Nocturne, Devil Survivor OC or SMT IV.
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>>153036570
Actually read the OP.
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>>153036570
Tell me your three favourite JRPGs (different franchises)
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>>153031943
go away beadman jr
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>>153037798
INB4 Persona
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>>153037798
I liked the mana series, valkyrie profile and romancing saga to name a few
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>>153036974
posts rational thought out arguments
get a reply of FKIN AUTISTIC FAGGOT
7/10 I kekd hard m8

>your replies are nothing but fallacies
citation needed, also which fallacies?
you really shouldnt use words you dont know the meaning of

>Not acknowledging something is not the same thing as disbelieving. As an example, think of your middle school years.
Tell me more abou your childhood m8 lel
active disbelief is not required to be an atheist
If someone lived their whole entire life alone on an island and no one ever told them what god was they would still be an atheist
the only way to not be an atheist is to be a theist
your attempts to be a special snowflake fencesitter
only convinve the intellectually unsophisticated and make you look like the edgy teenager you are

inb4
>IM RIGHT, CUZ UR STUPID
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>>153037798
Fire Memblem, Shit Megami Tensei, Odins Sphere
still not as good as western RPGs
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>>153039014
Atheist
ˈāTHēəst
Noun
"A person who disbelieves or lacks belief
in the the existence of gods."
Was it that hard?
>Citation needed also, which fallacies?
Not 8 posts up you literally pulled the "No True Scotsman fallacy, and again 23-24 posts up.
Also
>posts rational thought out arguments
Kek.
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>>153039383
You might be memeing, but I think the same way.
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>>153039457
>A person who disbelieves or lacks belief
>lacks belief
now tell me do apatheists have a belief in god or not
If they dont, guess what that means they lack belief thus making them atheists
thank you for proving my earlier assertion that
"the only way to not be an atheist is to be a theist"
Checkmate atheist, I am glad that you have come around to me and the dictionaries way of thinking

PS calling someone out for a true scotsman fallacy does not mean you have committed one
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why arent you playing it
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>>153040343
shut up esl memer
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>>153040343
Apatheists lack an opinion on the subject, so it's unfair to force one to make a decision when the entire point is that they don't consider the age old question "is god real" very important.
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>>153041386
Because I've never heard of it.
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>>153041554
Me neither, till this week. If you aren't on 11 update, you should look into playing it. The beginning bit felt MT to me.
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>>153041686
Where can I play?
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>>153041793
Shit I went full autist I meant to say can a EOP play this game? I looked it up and it only referred to the jap release.
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>>153041860
There's a fantranslation. I got it on 3dsiso, but it's also on nicoblog (where I first heard of it)
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>>153041939
K I'll check it out.
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>>153041386
Sorry, check /hbg/ for the correct firmware if you need it. This is mostly to people who have been letting their 3DS collect dust. I got a 2ds since it comes with low firmware.

If you don't have cfw on your 3DS, here's the intro which I fell in love with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDcK0ZoFQQo

The protagonist (and player character) is a new player of the "Beyond the Labyrinth" online RPG, which is styled as an 8-bit dungeon crawler from a first-person perspective. The player is joined by three other players—"Pokira" (ポキーラ), a polite male; "Nerikeshi" (ねりけし), a wise-cracking male; and "LiLy", a sensitive and curious female—all of whom communicate with each other via the game's chat feature. In the world of the Labyrinth, the group encounters an unnamed girl (女の子 On'nanoko?) (voiced by Haruka Tomatsu), who fell into the maze-like structure by accident and is looking for a way out. The two parties decide to cooperate to escape the Labyrinth.[8]
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>>153041464
Que?
>>153041486
No one is being forced to make a decision everyone already is an atheist or a theist

if you have a belief in god you are a theist
if you do not believe in god you are an atheist

since apatheists by their own admission do not have an active belief in any god they are by definition atheists
Its pretty simple but apatheists and some agnostics want to pretend they found some mystical 3rd option which doesnt exist

they dont have a factual logical argument look at >>153039457
He literally stumped himself and couldnt recognise it till i pointed it out due to his cognitive dissonance
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>>153043374
>No one is being forced to make a decision everyone already is an atheist or a theist
You literally contradicted yourself in the first sentence.
Apathy
ˈapəTHē
lack of interest, enthusiasm, or concern.
Theism
ˈTHēˌizəm
belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in one god as creator of the universe, intervening in it and sustaining a personal relation to his creatures.
Why is thinking so hard for you?
Second thought, don't answer. I'm gonna do what everyone else has been doing and stop feeding you (You)s.
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It's literally just a video game guys c'mon
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>>153044189
>Just a video game
B-but anon, it's the only thing I have left.
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been playing a bunch of Strange Journey (my second SMT after P4) and im trying out the first smt. What should i know going in?
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>>153045039
Press Turn wasn't around then.
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>>153043374
its done, anon ate shit really hard
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>>153045039
When your pet dog joins your party, you'll want to fuse it with a demon as soon as possible.
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>>152976634
>I'm not this place's shadow, ho!
>I'm a resident of the sea of the human mind, ho!
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>>153043834
Your interest or lack thereof is not entirely irrelevant to the question of whether or not you have a belief. While atheism doesn't automatically follow from apatheism, it's easy to infer your words that you lack a belief in god, and in most cases when people identify as apatheist you'll find that that's the case, since the only practical usage of the term is to let de facto atheist fence sitters camouflage themselves, either because they dislike the implications of being labeled an atheist, or because they're trying to be unique snowflakes.

Calling yourself apatheist is retarded on multiple levels, first off if someone asks you whether you believe in god, being apathic is not an answer, since by your own admission interest and belief have nothing to do with each other. More importantly though only a real simpleton would genuinely have no interest in the question of god. If god exists and you don't know about it then you lose out on heavenly reward. If god doesn't exist and you think he does then you'll waste your time for no good reason.
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>>153041386
because it was garbage
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Lads, I just got to the Brutes Base in DDS, and I am sorely underleveled. Is there any side stuff I can go do in the meantime, otherwise I'm gonna go grind in the underground tunnel.
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>>153031987
>be chaos
>finally beat him
>choose his answer not realizing it changed your aliment to neutral
>save
>realize you have to beat him twice
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>>153054750
I don't think so. If there is, make sure you can leave through the front gate, so you don't have to do that underwater tunnel stuff again. If you're underleveled, don't run away from anymore fights unless you're absolutely positive you're going to get a game over if you keep fighting. If you fight almost every fight, there should be little to no need to grind in SMT games in general (exception being extra bosses).
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Mahama
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>>152975087
Ahh come on, the pun was universal.
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Gayfags are truly the scum of the earth.
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>>153048660
To be fair, the modern atheist on the internet is incredibly loathsome and as a result, a simple statement of "I don't believe in God or gods" becomes "I wish to prove God or gods don't exist." with all the applicable baggage of an autistic, smug, argumentative, and petulant Neil DeGrasse Tyson-esque science cult.

If people want to escape the atheist brand, blame atheists.
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>>153067610
>"I wish to prove God or gods don't exist."
Which is nonsense since it's the one who claims that something exists that needs to prove it, not the other way around.
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>>153069162
That's nonsense itself though. You don't get to petulantly declare that God or gods don't exist if the proof doesn't meet youre standards.
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>>153069162
>Which is nonsense since it's the one who claims that something exists that needs to prove it, not the other way around.
Prove that.
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videogames
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>>153069772
I know you're just having a giggle but you can't you ask someone to prove something without implicitly invoking burden of proof yourself. It goes without saying that people should back up the shit they spout, and anyone that makes claims they can't back up is a retard. I won't go as far as to say you need to be able to prove everything, since absolute proof is often a monumental task, but people are skeptical by nature, if you accept claims for no good reason then there's something wrong with your mind, and by extension you should provide sufficient reason if you want people to believe in something.
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>>152960469
>red eyes
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>>153069582
>>153069772
What proof? A book that could have been written by anyone for any purpose? By that logic, you can claim that Slender Man and Flying Spaghetti Monster exist, since maybe the "proof" of their existence is good enough for you.

Faith in it's self is belief in something that can't be explicitly proven. If there was a proof it wouldn't be faith anymore.
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>>153039538
Shit taste.
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>>153001476
>r/Megaten
Every time
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>>153033653
>putting your penis near a man's asshole
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So I beat Ouroboros
Then I beat her four fuckboys
and now what the fuck Waves of Death
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What game does this demon show up in?
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>>153076957
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Rastaman
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>>153077045
>Devil Summoner

Dammit.
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So is Law the canon route for SMT1?

Because I just started playing SMT2 and Tokyo has been rebuilt as a lawfag city.
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>>153076957
His bag is cute.
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>>153077173
Neutral is canon for SMT1.
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>>153077173
Neutral leads in to Shin Megami Tensei II. Law leads in to Shin Megami Tensei 20XX

http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Shin_Megami_Tensei:_20XX
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>>153079298
>Shin Megami Tensei 20XX

I had absolutely no idea this existed.
I want to play it.
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>>153077142
>all those demons that only appeared on devil summoner

why
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hee ho?
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HOW THE HELL DOES ALIGNMENT WORK
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>>153084348
alignments are spooks
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>>153081230
The fact that devil summoner depicts rastafarians as zombie men who decapitate people and keep their heads in a paper bag is probably one of the reasons it hasn't been localised.
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>>153084442
stirner will be chaos, desu
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Does anyone have some sweet SMT phone wallpapers? Or at least some wallpapers easily converted to phone wallpapers? I'm currently using that black and white drawing of the white asking Flynn to bring oblivion but I'm not too thrilled with it as a wallpaper.
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>>153086272
i use this one
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>>153086887
That's just cute, anon. CUTE!

I'm gonna give pic related a crop and see how it turns out. I generally like dark colors and more minimalism things for wallpapers so it should be fine.
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>>153086272
I just use this.
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>>153087814
I can dig it.

For any that care, the size/ratio of the Demifiend picture is all fucked up and making it into a wallpaper is more trouble than it's worth.
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>>153086272
Behold casualries! For this is the ultimate MT picture.
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>>153087960
I use a picture of Serph, Sera and Heat, but I won't post it here because that's spoilers for the novels. It's a fanart from pixiv.
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>>153088632
>no SMT1 protags
It's shit.
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>>153088750
It's the one where they become homo dads and adopt Sera. That is a very cute picture.
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>>153088750
>>153088750
Just spoiler the image silly billy.

>>153088632
>>153088632
Pretty cool.
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>>153088926
Yeah, that's the one.
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>>153088778
It has Hero and he is all you need.
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>>153089008
I'm on mobile so maybe it won't work, but here you go.
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>>153088632
Poor Space Marine.
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>>153033653
Well if your dick ejaculates at random times, then it's not your fault.

Your body also cannibalizes itself in certain circumstances. But that doesn't justify you forcing yourself to those circumstances or cutting a part of your body to eat it.

Religions only condemn voluntary acts.
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>>153089296
2cute4me
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>>153089296
Worked just fine. Not my thing, but is that really how the novels end? That's somehow weirder than the game's ending.
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>>153089736
That's my guess, I found other fanarts depicting the same scene and the artists commented on the novels' epilogue in the descriptions. Some English speaking fans who read the books in Japanese commented on how it was implied too iirc. I also know that at least Serph was japanese in his previous life and his name was Shin Minase or something.
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>>153088632
Help complete the list because I'm missing like 4. From top to bottom, left to right

M! If..., Hibiki Kuze, Tamaki Uchida

Hero, Aleph

Kyouji, Soul Hackers Protag

Yu, Earing, P3MC, Tatsuya

Serph, Nakajima and Yumiko, ???

???, ??? ,???, Dark Hero?

Kazuya, Demi-fiend, Kuzunoha
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>>153091541
>Serph, Nakajima, Yumiko, ???
MT2 protag I think.

>???, ???, ???, Dark Hero?
NINE for the first one? Or is NINE the middle two?
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I'm about to beat MT2 and move on to SMT and I was wondering if there were any versions other than the SNES. It seems like the jump from the party list to the 2 x 3 grid world be a nice shake up. And before you recommend iOS, is sooner try to grab the Mercury pillar irl.
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>>153092514
There's a ps1 version I believe but I don;t think there's a translation.Dunno of any good links to it either.
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>>153091541
>???, ??? ,???, Dark Hero?
Kei from Maken X, NINE (Male), NINE (Female), No idea.
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>>153092514
SMT I has like a dozen versions
sega CD and PS1 versions are the best IIRC

only the SNES one has a fan translation because we're all lazy
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>>153092932
The one on the right is Atsuya from Majin Tensei.
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Hoy.
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>>153096647
Hoy
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>>153096985
You blow.
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>>153097143
I'll blow you, that's for sure.
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>>153092940
What's wrong with the GBA version?
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Is there any reason aside from convenience to get the PSP version of Devil Summoner over the Saturn one? I haven't heard of it having any improvements like the Persona or Soul Hackers ports.
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>>153098043
>Devil Summoner was also ported to the PSP, with reduced difficulty and other minor conveniences. According to sources, Atlus was interesting in translating the title, but was apparently blocked by Sony America for not having enough new content added.
It seems like they are almost exactly the same.
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Look who arrived! And with no damage except the tip of the middle wing.
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>>153100952

No nipples. 0/10.
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>>153101462
Would still fug it though.
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>>153101462
Didn't even notice. Maybe I can paint them on
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I'm about to buy Nocturne for my PS2, What can I expect aside a bigger challenge that SMT IV?
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>>153102773
A video game.
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>>153102773
Dante from the Devil May Cry™ series.
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>>153102773
It's pretty good. Play on hard mode the first time through.
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>>153103951
>Play on hard mode the first time through.
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>>153104393
Hard is the only fun way to play the game. The gap in difficulty between normal and hard is too big.
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>>153097143
>>153097763
>>153096985
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>>153092514
>PCE CD
Almost identical to the original SFC version.
Some sprites were updated or uncensored, there are 4 new endgame demons, half of the cutscenes look very cool, and some of the music sounds great in FM.
However, the scrolling is choppy, there is less color, and the other half of the cutscens are epilepsy-inducing.

>Mega CD
Probably the most unique version.
Lots of new demons were added, and many old demons' sprites were redrawn based on Kaneko's official artwork. New cutscenes are GORGEOUS, and 2/3 of the final dungeon was completely re-made. There's also a Library option, which is similar to Debisama's Compendium disc, where you can view demons' stats and spritework. The music remixes are good, for the most part.
However, the scrolling is slow as shit, even when it's set on Quick, the overworld map is confusing as fuck, and the encounter rate is EVEN HIGHER than in the original. Some of the added features are pointless (like when you face a group of demons, every member of the group is shown on screen, but only one of them is animated), and re-textured dungeons can be a little confusing. Also, load times.

>PS
Probably the best version.
Smooth scrolling, improved player-friendly UI, difficulty select option.
The only downside is that they didn't add any new content, or updated some of the sprites from PCE/MCD versions. Some people say that the music sounds worse, compared to the original SFC, but it's a matter of preference.

>GBA
Something inbetween SFC and PS versions. The smooth scrolling is gone, but the overworld map was updated, and Visionary Items were added.
It's biggest problem is that the sound quality is terrible.

>iOS
GBA version with PS music, basically.

>RPG Maker VX remake
I haven't played it yet, but from what I've seen, it was completely re-balanced, and there are lots of new content, including new events, new routes, new partners, new demons, etc.

tl;dr:
PS > iOS > SFC > MCD > PCE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to19bV1NSQs
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Is the brigade over?
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What is a world without kaneko?
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>>152981518
Good taste
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>>153111932
A world of Kamen Rider.
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>>153113940
Why does nothing in Iv have limbs actually attached to their bodies.
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>>153113940
>Japanese National Defense Divinities are Kamen Riders
You know that actually makes a certain degree of sense.
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>>153114190
SMT4 takes place in the Rayman timeline.
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Sorry for the wait niggas,

Build 5 goin' be out by tonight.
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>>153116943
OH SHIT
HOLY FUCK
what is this
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>>153117913

Translation of DDS2 on Famicom.

Forgot to say, I'll be uploading a patch for it this time to have it playable.
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>>153118126
noice
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>>153087814
This is Persona 3, right?
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>>153119168
yeah
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>>153119514
Cool, saved
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>>153116943
Great! Even some people over /vr/ were waiting for it.
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I'm looking to start SMT2, any tips? The pastebins have jack shit
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>>153123484
10 int
get 10 int later on, but dont rush for it
dont keep demons out at the beginning
only dark demons drop mag
make sure to get a full set of gear around the area before fighting red bear w/e
to heal, you have to move left or right to select like in a shop, not just click a
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>>153124793
>get 10 mag later on, but dont rush for it

sorry, sleepy
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>>153124793
>>153124897
thanks anon
go to sleep!
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why is momunofu such a good demon in nocturne
he helped me make it through thor and Dante like nothing
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>>153125113
its only 10, i just had a big dinner
if you play tonight ill be around a bit more to help

i forgot to say, do every single vr level and beat it. its tedious but worth it. especially before the arena
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>>153114871
It makes no sense since the NDD are owned by the local drug dealing Yakuza.
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What's your favorite SMT Music? This is mine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVazqaACfT4
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>>153127760
What shit emulator is producing that? That's not how Toxic Landfill sounded when I played it.
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>>153129849
You sure? The GBA and DS soundchips are notoriously horrible sounding.
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>>153132642
The gothlip looks terribad.
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>>153133165
i tried
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>>153133191
No you didn't Masayuki, now redraw everything right this time.
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>>153091002
Sounds weird but interesting, especially if this was actually a plan for the game at one point in development.
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>>153135595
What's the name of the novel?
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>>153100952
Very nice
Where did you acquire? how much?
this is now a buyfag thread
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>>152942260
I have only played shin megami tensei 1 aand 2 and a little bit of the persona fighting game at a friends house
but one thing that always confused me was the difference between megami tensei, shin megami tensei, devil survivor, devil summoner, and digital devil saga
I know some take place in the same universe and others dont and that there are gameplay differences between each one
however I have looked online to figure out what the differences were and never could find a good explanation
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>>153136308
Quantum Devil Saga
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>>153137659
I'll oversimplify it for you: everything that isn't simply "Shin Megami Tensei" or "Megami Tensei" is a spinoff. Again, this is merely an oversimplification.
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>>153137812
but could you specify the difference in gameplay between the spinoffs
I know that there are some SMT spinoffs that are not in the numbered series but retain the SMT title and gameplay
What im interested in is what separates the non SMT atlas games from the SMT ones in terms of game mechanics
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>>153138195
every game as their own thing, they almost all share the demon negotation-fusion.
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>>153137717
QDS VOL. 2 FUCKING WHEN?
I already know when, I just can't bring myself to stop posting it
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>>153138330
DELET THIS
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>>153138558
NOT UNTIL YOU GIVE ME THE BOOK, BENTO
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>>153138598
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Y'all awake?

Megami Tensei 2 build 5 is up, download link is here:

>http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php?build=5

There's a fair amount to play from this (I hope).

If the OP could change the MT2 link to the above one, that'd be even better.

Anything to criticize or praise as well, be sure to do it on http://www.dmanufacture.com/d-dds2.php in case I miss it on /smtg/.

Hope you enjoy it.


Going to upload it on rhdn too I guess, but it'll probably take 2 days to approve, so grab it off my site now if you'd like.
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>>153139823

Forgot to mention, for any hardwarefags, it'll work using an Everdrive on an NES/Famicom as well (as tested by myself).
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>>153136832
It's all cheap, minus probably eBay. I imagine it's because it gets damaged so easily.
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>>153138195
>>153138296
>every game as their own thing

Kind of like Final Fantasy. Tactics is a spin off, akin to Devil Survivor. I dunno what games you play, but I feel FF is a good place to try and make a comparison. The "Megami Tensei" (we just call it SMT cause that's how it was branded and no one gives a fuck about MT but me and 5 other people) series is just much larger in spin offs.

Play by release date, and don't overthink it.
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>>153138330
If you know then tell me.
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What ng+ rewards should I get in desu overclocked?
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>>153139823
This is a real minor thing but it annoys me how you used speed as a stat name when the rest of the stats are shortened like vit and str.
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Mazio
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Paraladi
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Die for me!
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Recarmdra
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Megidoladyne.
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Anon who had problems with DDS here, I think I understand what's going on. For context, I was playing DDS1 on my PS2 and I couldn't do anything after the boss fight against the colonel dude (right before the last dungeon is available) because of scratches on the disc.

I bought a new copy of the game some days ago and it didn't have any scratch on it. I played a bit and I'm in the middle of the final dungeon. Out of curiosity I check the disc and surprise: there are scratches on the disc. It looks like it comes from the PS2 itself, so I don't know what to do. I feel stupid for never noticing this earlier, and now I'm scared I bought a new copy for nothing. The PS2 looks clean though, at least the part where I'm supposed to put the disc. Dammit I'm so upset about this.
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>>153149031
If it's a fat PS2, you could just slap a hard drive onto it and play your games off that.

That's what I did, and now I never have to worry about discs.
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I am curious about something, I am playing SMT with the orden patch and want to complete the Law Baptism, but the high priest says unless I wish it fully, it wouldn't be right to.

Does that mean I have to max out my law alignment, or be highly aligned? The protagonist was Level 65 exactly when I spoke to Law Hero after killing Echidna. Did that goose up the whole thing due to flag conflicts? And if so, is it the same for the Gaian side as well in the Orden Patch?
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>>153149031
Same here, because of this i'm playing DDS in a emulator
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>>153149395
It's a slim PS2. I'm not very used to it, I got it recently. I tried playing with my first copy and it works just fine somehow. The scratches are in the smae places on both discs so I guess I should be fine actually, but maybe I won't be able to replay it fully since I got stuck right before an unskippable cutscene and it could be the case for the second disc now that there are scratches on it too. Almost makes me want to never get physical copies of games ever again, unless it's for cartidges.
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I'm not really sure what's the optimal Almighty moveset in DeSu2 is, can someone help me out?

Would it be most beneficial to pick Megidolaon and Drain? Is Holy Dance more reliable than Megidolaon? Should I bother with drain?
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>>153151409
I can't do that because my computer is complete shit, but I'll definitely do that once I get a new one someday. I have two copies of the game, it wouldn't even count as piracy anyway.
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>>153151667
Depends on what you want

Holy Dance is better against bosses, Megido/dolan is better for wiping out teams, although Megidolaon is extremely MP heavy, I suppose this is why drain exists but still Megido just might be worth it because of it's less-expensive nature
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>that feel when pixie casts megidolaon on your team but fails because it costs more than her mp
Darned pranks nearly gave me a heart attack.
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>>153150534
Yeah, tried it with the Gaian, you can get baptised, but you can't open the doors due to the patch itself.
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>>153144773

One of the few things I forgot to change before submitting the patch, welp.
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Oh, look. It's Decarabia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAeSi7gx4lo
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Alright, I just finished Devil Survivor Overclocked. Got the Haru + Gin ending.

About to start DS2: Record Breaker. Anyone have any general tips beyond the pastebin?
I think this time around I'm gonna do free fights until I crack all the skills I don't have. I think that's the way to go, time consuming and methodical but worthwhile. Because later on in DS1 I found myself wanting for certain skills like Prayer and Samarecarm.
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Playing SMTIV here for the first time.
Can I just dump all incenses on MC or do I get fucked when I NG+?

>>153157156
If you're not following a guide or are playing blind, try to get party members to Fate 2 asap to crack more skills. It allows that member to crack the skill MC has set and vice versa.

Some skills from the street pass add-on can't ever be obtained on Demons otherwise, so use them wisely.
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>>153158651
>Some skills from the street pass add-on can't ever be obtained on Demons otherwise
>street pass skills

RIP add-on skills. I d-didn't want to have them anyway...
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>>153158887
My bad I mistyped, it's a Spotpass thing, not Streetpass, so you can get them anytime as long as they're still distributing it.

Or did you already get them or something?
You'll only be missing on Hidden Strength and Excharge if so, I think.

Though Excharge is really damn good with Double Extra.
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>>153157156
>Alright, I just finished Devil Survivor Overclocked. Got the Haru + Gin ending.
Make sure to go back and play the other endings on NG+ at some point. Yuzu's route with 8th Day is probably the closest you'll get to something they'd use in an anime. Naoya's route is really good, and Amane's is the one time that Law isn't completely shit.
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>>153106749
>Encounter rates higher than the original SNES
Jesus christ, how horrifying.
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>>153151667
Holy Dance, Drain, Healing Spell

The set is specially powerful once you get Magic Yin, and Drain begins to kill stuff.
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>>153136832
Got it off of amazon. It was under $20. Yeah, Satan is probably the cheapest SMT figure out there, most likely due to what >>153140435 said. I can link you the seller if you want me to.
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Guys I formatted my 3ds and forgot about my saves, has anyone got a Soul Hackers EU save when they've just entered the factory, a SMT 4 EU save that is NG+ or just started the neutral path/is doing the neutral path and an SMT one (snes) save at the start of the psychodiver's soul dungeon?
I know these are pretty specific but i'd really appreciate it.
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>>153162841
Link please. It's official right?
Anyone else got good links to official SMT merch?
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>>153163292
Yes, it's official. Here the link I used: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00G4DULCY/
It actually costs $20.21

I also bought a Raidou figure for about $43 here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BMGUGDW/

Good quality, but apparently the cape causes issues with standing the figure up without it falling down, so you're limited to a few poses if you want it to stay up without having to buy a stand for it. I think I posted the box I got earlier in the thread, I can take a picture of it out of the box but in the plastic casing if you want.

There's other merch if you search only on amazon (I know there's an Alice + Jack Frost figure, and another Raidou one that costs $130+ but is extremely good quality).
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>>153149031

At least DDS is cheap.

Just sell your copies as "Untested."

People will see it works, upboat you, and you're golden.

Sell your PS2 as untested as well.

Then get a new PS2, easy.

Personally, I got one of those 20 gig PS3s, luckily at 3.55 so I've modded it. It's because it's 95% hardware emulation as I've read, and it's capable of outputting in 480p whereas PS2 is stuck at 480i. The 480p does help with making it look nice on my CRT.
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>>153157156
Nearly every dialogue choice in DeSu2 matters for scoring friendship and upping fate levels. So don't pick the autistic options. it gets pretty obvious who likes what sort of responses (Daichi likes it when you don't bust his balls. Io likes it when you're nice to her. Joe likes you playing along with his faggotry. Yamato likes you being all business enough to play along with his tinpot Aizen routine...)

>>153159793
>>153158887
I think for this, the only relevant thing is the "New Game+" Addon for fusion, which when used during a fusion allows you to add some high level cracked skills to the fused monster (The name is misleading). There is no way to get two cracked skills on a monster otherwise.

These guys know the skill names better than me, but just hold onto that fusion item until you crack the relevant skill then stick it on something that you can store in your compendium like an element and you're good.

And either youtube or replay the other Overclocked endings. They are all really good. I think Amane and Gin are my favorites.
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>tfw your cute japanese girl (male) penpal who you talk about rpgs and how she loves SJ don't respond anymore

I DONT WANT TO FIGHT THIS LOVE
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>>153165248
My brother of african descent good to know there's people with good taste among the crowd of Naoya's shills
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>>153144413
Depends on what you want to do. Keep cracked skills is absolutely mandatory. Beyond that, anything goes.

The most power you can get is probably remove XP limit and remove fusion level limit. If you want to steamroll the game, carry over a demon or two.

Fallen Star is not a good pick. You are gonna need a bit more than just one run through the game to get enough demons with Holy Dance and Samerecarm to take down that ultra-boss.
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>>153168363
>male
Why don't you just say "boy" and "he"?
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>>153168363
does he look like pic related he's wearing a wig anon?
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I just finished DDS 1 using a emulator and i plan to play 2, the emulation is fine as well?
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>>153170145
For that sweet attention that all degenerates crave for.
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>>153157156
Do the free fights, make sure you build enough strength and speed crack Assassinate, Multi-strike, and what not. Try to get Io's fate to level 4 on the Septentrione Arc.
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Why do Nips love Ghost Slimer Navarre?
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>>153175964
He's Navarre but cute mascot-esque and not insufferable
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>>153175964
ghost ASS
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Is there any character in Final who's hated by Nips?
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>fusing almost perfect halphas for all needs
>fusion accident intensifies
>its fucking Botis full of garbage skills
>haha shit like this happens lmao
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>>153170945
y-y-yes but with black hair
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>>153172993
Yes.
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>picking the default name options in SMT2 tilts you heavily towards law

fuuuuuuuuuck
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So for SMTI and SMTII should I just emulate or is it worth buying the snes cartridges? This guide image talks about a fan translation was the first game never properly localized? What's the best way to play the first two games?
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>>153182509
they're games from the 90s that involve summoning demons and killing god, of course they were never localised.

There's links to the patched versions of the games in the pastebin, just download them and use a SNES emulator.
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>>153182509
Well, if you want to play an official release of SMT1 in English, there is an iOS version of the game that got officially localized. If you don't have an iOS device, then just play the fan translation. SMT2 never got localized, so you need a fan translation to play that one.
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>>153182397
Just type in their names instead. It only gives you law points if you don't type them in yourself.
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>>153182509
If you have an iOS device, you can download the first Shin Megami Tensei. It got an official release. Otherwise, emulate the SNES version. SMTII never got officially localized, but there is a fan translation.
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>>153183710
>>153184090
This is what I get for not having auto thread updater.
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>you'll never read the tokyo revelation manga
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Decided to finally get into proper SMT. Haven't played Nocturne yet but I want to give Digital Devil Saga a shot first.

Any hot tipz, /smt/?
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>>153184628
is this yaoi
>>153185862
Play SJ instead
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>>153186491
Already did. Haven't gotten really far in it, because I had to return a borrowed DS, unfortunately.
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>>153006180
It was DSP
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>>153186589
Now that it's settled, any thing I should know about MT2? The Tips and Tricks pastebin doesn't say anything.
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Holy shit there's a bunch of SMT IV music in the new Jontron

What does it mean, /smtg/?
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>>153188959
You need 7 Int to progress after a certain point, and, I believe, 20/25 int if you want to wield the best sword/armor in the endgame.

Max Partner's Int asp and watch her one-shot the early bosses.

If you're having trouble with the Arena, recruit Kerberos. He is a lvl 40 demon and can be found inside the Devil Busters game (you gotta find a new way to play it).
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>>153185862
DDS is a good starting point. Nocturne is the weird one of the series, I'm not entirely sure why people always recommend it first.
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>>153188959
>>153190040
Also, I forgot: if you need money to buy new armor, go play the cassino games. Use savestates if you want; armor is important and farming macca can be very painful.
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>>153189578
Isn't there an entire board dedicated to your e-celeb garbage
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>>153184628
Does anyone have scans of the Japanese version of this? The version from the OP is in Chinese.
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>>153184628
Is this the one with the literally Chaos fag who gets BTFO by a based Gagyson?

>>153186491
Kinda. The Hero is straight, but the villain is a literal homo.
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>>153186491
>is this yaoi

Something even better.
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Sorry if I'm going crazy, but is the song in the background here from an SMT game? I feel like it's from SMT IV.

https://youtu.be/subQrEPKytA?t=1m58s
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>>153195841
Not only you're posting e-celeb garbage, you also didn't even bother to read the thread.
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>>153195841
There's a lot of SMT IV songs in the background, yeah.
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>>153195841
There's one about 40 seconds in, that remix of the SMTI opening used for IV's title screen.
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>>153195841
yes because muh demon summoning with computors and shiet
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>>153191414
/v/?
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>>153149395
>fat PS2, you could just slap a hard drive onto it and play your games off that.

Link to how, so I can go buy a damn fatty
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>>153151720
>I have two copies of the game, it wouldn't even count as piracy anyway.

That's not how it works.

Steal what you want, but don't kid yourself.
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>>153089305
Isn't there a Persona version of this?
Or am I imagining things?
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>>153182509
Don't waste your money on repros that will probably die, you fucking faggot.
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>>153201183
Not only is the game a decade old, he actually bought the game before. Fuck off Fatlus.
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>>153201737
Whatever helps you sleep at night, retard.
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>>153202498
Stop being jews and go back to working on SMT V.
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I'm having a hard time with Vasuki in DDS. I do great damage, but it always hits my team with Panic and that's almost an instant lose, since I can't both recover my party AND null ice if more than one person gets hit. No other boss has given me this much trouble, is there something I can do to circumvent this?
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>>153072321
Does law even care about humans (unclean ones) or do they only care about keeping a small portion ignorant for the sake of peace
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>>153205562
Both. It depends on who you ask.
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>>153189578
A possible smt game review?
only in my dreams
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>Total Progress ›› 80%

In 2013, I thought that joke was hella fucking dank.
Now it's sad.
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>>153189578
The new Jontron what?
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>>153086272
Currently using this one
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>>153195841
Yeah, the classic SMT1/3/4 Arcade track starts at 2:43
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Could someone please give me a good reason for why a reasonable human being that cares about humanity would side with Walter/Lilith at the mid-game path split? Why would anyone think that releasing demonic apocalypse (again) on city where people are already contemplating suicide or turning themselves into demons out of desperation would be good idea under any circumstances?
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>>153208434
muh wurld of str
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>>153208434
Why would a reasonable human who cares about humanity genocide an entire city?

Neutral is blatantly the good path in IV.
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>>153208434
because is METAL AS FUCK
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>>153207173
Review of a film adaptation of a Christian propaganda comic
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>>153186589
tfw this lucifer looks way more badass than any that have come since.
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>>153208564
That wasn't the question. Their point was that even a neutral character would at the split realistically side with johnathan. Since neutral people have reason to want to get rid of the black samurai, and can worry about the angels later. They have no reason to let out demons.
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>>153209786
No, a neutral character would say fuck both, they're both bad ideas. That's the fucking point of neutral. The angels gave plenty of evidence of being awful at that point as well.
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>>153209919
I'm not sure where you're going with this. Lilith actively plans on getting someone to let out demons, and is turning people into demons. A neutral character would still want to stop her. They would also want to stop the angels. But they wouldn't by any means side with walter. They have reason to side with johnathan at the split, even if the reason is not his reason.
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>>153200993
http://psx-scene.com/forums/f153/unofficial-fhdb-1-93-noobie-package-obt-119562/

And a video guide if you don't want to read.

I've got all the PS2 Megaten games loaded on my hard drive, it's great.
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>>153210083
Demons up to that point proved they could be negotiated with, even if they're sometimes awful. Angels can't be negotiated with.
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>>153210172
Well that's embarrassing, I forgot the video link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOd_1DYsIQg
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>>153210209
There's already demons there though. Letting out more enemies has no benefit at all. Especially since itll kick the angels into high gear when if you didn't do so you might have had more time to make a plan to fight them, since they wouldn't be in as big a hurry.
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>>153202793
Actually, we just deleted SMT5. Please look forward to a launch of the original games made with PERSONA4 characters and assets. We will be changing the endings to fit with the PERSONA universe as well.
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>>153210751
You brought this upon us.
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>>153210751
The sad part of this reply is that it's probably true.
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>>153208434
Because SMT4's plot is utter fucking trash.

I guess technically at that point you're deciding whether you think stopping gangsters from squeezing the brains of children dry to feed demons is worse than an evil bookslut who was responsible for the demonizing and death of your best bro and hometown. The opening of a hellmouth into Tokyo is just what you're told after you side with her.

But it's still fucking retarded.

Like all of SMT4's shit-ass plot.
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>>153208434
Demons in IV has been shown to be much more reasonable than the human cast despite being jerks. As long as no one goes out of their way to agitate them, they shouldn't cause a ruckus.
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>>153211347
>The opening of a hellmouth into Tokyo is just what you're told after you side with her
While that's true, and I know the game doesn't give you the option, you would think a Neutralfag would at that point change their mind about who they are helping.
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>>153212004
>Demons in IV has been shown to be much more reasonable than the human cast despite being jerks. As long as no one goes out of their way to agitate them, they shouldn't cause a ruckus.
This is the absolute most fucking stupid thing ever and I don't know whether you are retarded or Atlus is being retarded.

WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT OF DEMONS IF THEY ARE MORE REASONABLE THAN HUMANS

WHY EVEN CALL THEM DEMONS

WE ARENT RUNNING A STORY WHERE HUMANS ARE THE REAL EVIL LIKE SOME GAY ZOMBIE MOVIE

THE NAME DEMON USED TO FUCKING MEAN SOMETHING

FUCK THIS IS SO FUCKING STUPID IT HURTS TO READ IT.
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>>153212004
Are you ignoring that they casually consider killing people to be okay? The only reason its not more common is because of the red pills. Which is just killing people with a step removed. Demons aren't even remotely coherent in IV. Even the ring of gaia doesn't get along with them half the time. Which should tell you something about what is going on.
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>>153212047
A lawfag wasn't told he would be purging Tokyo and killing Isabeau until after Walter invites Merkabah in, so it's not like this game's terrible story gives two shits about bait and switch bullshit.
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>>153212423
Sure, but since the game doesn't give you the option to change your mind, it means your character is Ok with what is going to happen and its your "job" as the roleplayer to think up the reason why.
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>>153212702
Easy. The reason why is Atlus wrote a shitty plot.
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>>153212252
But IV is the same game where human are treated as livestock to manufacture red pills for a Yakuza. Off the top of my head, only Hope, Nozomi, Skins, Fujiwara, K, and Isabeau are the "reasonable" characters.

>>153212357
The red pills weren't necessary to keep demons in check. They could be easily be controlled by apps, gauntlets, and cellphones. Tayama was more concerned with securing power for himself than the people in Tokyo.
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>>153214153
Don't be stupid. The game mechanics of the demons who are with you are not implied to be something that would be easy to spread. Yeah, its implied that more could be done, but not like you could casually solve the problem. Why would tayama not have more cell phones if it was that easy? If he controlled all the demons, he'd be even more powerful. And wouldn't have to stay inside all the time no less.
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Fuck SMT4, I want to see what Flynn's previous incarnation was doing. That sounds like a better game to me.
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Nocturnebabies sure are active tonight
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>>153214554
According to Final, he was a counter demon force agent who summoned Masakado by beheading himself.
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>>153212252
Demons always varied in terms of jerkassery dumbass. Some are bad, some are okay.

Same as the angels. Some tend to be reasonable, like Gabriel (until IV fucked it up) and some are nearly worse than God, like Metatron.
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>>153214740
Speaking of metatron, what's with his role in apocalypse. From what I understand, you fight merkabah and lucifer who turn out to be satan. and all the other angels are like props that are phantasms that are just manifestations of yhvh's power in his realm. Other than metatron, who is real for some reason? What does metatron say when you fight him.
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>>153214873
*when you're in his realm that is. Not all the angels in the universe proper.
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When is Atlus going to make a game based on Feudal Japan? That Krishna short story felt like it should've been it's own game.
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>>153215165
Why bother? IV already was mixing a little bit of the east with feudal western societies. It would be redundant to do it again.
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>>153215762
So we can have a proper one where you fight Nobunaga and his horde of Western demons in his attempt to conquer all of Japan.
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>>153216386
Sounds like cancer. We need to mix things up more. Lets have a smt in another country.
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>>153216486
>what is Strange Journey
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>>153216559
A piece of shit. Honestly, atlus needs to just revamp its entire team. I could describe sjs entire plot in like a minute without even shortening.
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>>153216667
>he thinks sj is shit
Opinion disregarded.
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>>153217353
cry more, bitchboi.
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>>153208434
Going back to Tokyo doesn't inherently mean that you are gonna side with Lilith and go full out chaos, it's just that you may want to make sure that Hoyman is ok, and maybe if you want to learn more about Lilith's point of view.
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Is there finally a clean image of the "key image" for SMT IV A/Final? I wanted to make another one of those walls with the title on a black background and the image on the right.
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>>153218045
I know, but the game forces you to do those things anyway. That's one thing I don't like about SMT4, you often get roped into decisions you don't want to make. Having only Law, Neutral, and Chaos endings are fine, but at least give us some more nuanced choices before the alignment lock.
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I returned Soul Hackers, am I trash? It wasn't too hard, it was just boring
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>>153218732
SMT isn't really about the plot though. It's more meant to be an excuse to go fight big bad monsters.
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>>153218045
Lilith literally killed your family. Her point of view is that rather than actually do anything about the class system, she dicked around in the most roundabout way possible, so that only the few who could master demonic power survived her shenanigans enough to use it. There's no way to spin her as well intentioned.
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>>153218993
You are trash but it is about as easy as every SMT.

It IS a relic though and you have to enjoy that era of game design to like it. Me, I was giddy at every wonderfully pulpy reveal.
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>>153218993
Soul hackers is the shittiest smt game. I don't blame you.
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>>153219437
>>153218993
>t. Millennials.
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>>153219698
I'm probably older than most people here. Old enough to not pretend to like rpgs with bad plots and no gameplay.
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Is it just me, or is Persona 1, and especially P2 IS easier than P2 EP?

Maybe it's because the PSP remakes somehow made them easier, but P2 EP on ps1 feels more challenging, and of course cumbersome due to it's age.
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>>153219817
What's your age? Also
>no gameplay
Nigger what? What is gameplay to you?
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>>153219860
Yes to all accounts. P1 and P2 IS you can mostly get by with the handout Persona. P2 EP requires you to fuse and get better Persona in order to progress.

>>153219817
>no gameplay
16 isn't old anon-kun.
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>>153220014
25

And something that's not boring. Lets all be honest. Rpgs in many cases struggle to have something that really counts as real gameplay. Its really more the edgy teens who are willing to pretend to enjoy them when they're not good. Or older people with autism.
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>>153220265
You didn't answer my second question. Just because turn based RPG's don't appeal to you, doesn't mean turn based battles aren't gameplay.
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>>153220265
To be honest, the only RPG that really doesn't is EO.
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>>153220421
I didn't say them not appealing to me meant they weren't gameplay. I said that they often struggle to count as cohesive gameplay in general. Especially with simple systems, where the "gameplay" is basically a formality for going through the story. Sure, sometimes its fun even like that. And sometimes its balanced enough to count. But not always. and if its a boring game, with uninteresting battles, its tenuous.
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>>153219817
Same reason I don't like SMT4 all that much.
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>>153220592
Jesus fucking Christ answer the fucking question. I'll even retype it for you: What is real gameplay to you?
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>>153220720
If you don't intuitively grasp the answer, no explanation is going to make sense to you. Gameplay has to involve some actual meaningful actions on the part of the player that creates some kind of challenge in a way that takes skill to overcome. Games where the battles are mainly you either are or aren't high enough level, with only a slim realm where its about skill barely count as having gameplay.
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>>153220847
>Gameplay has to involve some actual meaningful actions on the part of the player that creates some kind of challenge in a way that takes skill to overcome.

>Games where the battles are mainly you either are or aren't high enough level, with only a slim realm where its about skill barely count as having gameplay.

Thank you. Should've said that the first time. And while I do see your point, victory by grinding pretty much smt in general with few exceptions, so I have to ask: what are you doing in this general?
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>>153220847
If you have to grind to win in an SMT game, you fucking blow.
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>>153221220
>>153106393
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>>153221147
If the game as a whole is good enough, and fun to go through, you can overlook at times aspects where the gameplay is tenuous or barely existent. And some games have more real gameplay than others. since my original point was about soul hackers not being worth it, what the takeaway is is that the entire experience is lacking in ways that isn't picking up the slack for the already questionable gameplay. Some of the games have much better plots / experience / etc. Soul hackers lacks a lot of this, and so is less worth playing.

>>153221220
I didn't say you do. The person who responded to me did.
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>>153220847
>needing to grind
>in a SMT game
>in Soul Hackers
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>>153221376
But if the gameplay sucks and the actual story and/or characters are good, why not read a book or play a visual novel?
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>>153221220
Nice meme, but we all know grinding in SMT equates to mag or demon problems.
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>>153221468
Agreed. SMT is generally one of the more casual RPGs out there. Grinding is completely unnecessary. lol at this nerd saying SMT is too hard for him.
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>>153221556
The sad answer is most VNs or books are far worse.

You could make the same argument "why play a VN when you could read a book" anyway.
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>>153221746
Wouldn't he be a normie? Nerds tend to know what they're doing.
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>>153221847
Books are not interactive and most VNs probably don't have the kind of story you would care about.
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>>153221669
If you fucked up so bad that you NEED to grind mag or have demon issues then you suck anon.
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>>153221847
>Most VNs are far worse

You got me there. Though I've only ever played about 3 VNs, and 2 of them were eroge, so I'm not the best for testing the authenticity of this statement.

>You could make the same argument "why play a VN when you could read a book" anyway.

Well the thing with Visual Novels is that they're overglorified comics. And to me, comics are just books with too much pictures.

>>153221956

I point you to DIY books and Interactive novels.
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>>153222223
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>>153221556
I'm not sure what your point is. Most megaten games (pretty much all?) do not come in book form. So its not like there's an option. And even if the gameplay is only token, it would be a stretch to say watching a lets play on youtube is as good as actually playing it. You can like the experiences of certain games, without thinking that the gameplay is inherently requiring enough skill to itself be considered challenging in a meaningful accomplishment way. I think most of the games are overall good enough that the gameplay even when its token gameplay is entertaining. With soul hackers I think there's just not enough for it to stay engrossing.
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>>153222438
I was actually talking about just visual novels in general. I admit, I did read into your remark about VNs a bit too much.
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>>153222223
There are very, very few gamebooks I've played that had a plot worth remembering, and oddly enough all of those were digital only.

All still better than SMT4's plot though... well, most of them.

>>153222438
I can understand this but I'm playing Soul Hackers and loving every ridiculously cheesy second of it. The plot has been nothing so far but the classic 90s anime and classic RPG feel are spot on so far.
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>>153222591
I don't think I said anything about VNs? You might eb confusing me with the other poster.
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>>153222082
go play some real shin megumi tennis games, you nocturnalfaggot
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>>153222674
Oh I was replying to >>153221847, so most likely.
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>>153222602
Arguing is so fun amirite?
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>>152969143
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Hey /smtg/, how reliable is the smt wikia? Would you consider some parts of it to be biased or incorrect?
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>>153224591
For most of the translated/fan-translated stuff it's okay, but for any untranslated/obscure or even some lesser known fan-translated stuff it's kind of iffy.

I use it for the stats and demon lists. It's laughably incomplete in regards to story stuff.
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>>153225010
What pages are incomplete?
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>>153225362
I hope you realize how dumb this question is.

Also everything related to anime is fucked, iirc
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>>153225582
I haven't used the wikia in a long time, and even then it was reference for what I would name an MC. So I wouldn't really know what questions would be dumb or not.
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>>153209881
It's the ears and the lips.
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>>153214554
He chased Krishna who was killing Christians in Japan and then defeated him in a shounen battle by killing himself to prove Krishna he wasn't really a destroyer and that he could be saved by a puny human.
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>>153209881
He looks like the Green Goblin
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>>153208564
Nuking a city is hardly unbelievable americans have done it for the 'greater good' before m8. The law route is extra shitty on IV but people on this general have hang-ups with the only realistic thing it portrays.
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>>153229234
>law route on Iv
>bad

Filth, pls. The only thing bad about the law route is that before you actually get to it, some of the things they try to give you law points for are poorly expressed.
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>>153229450
Not him but see
>>152942570
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>>153229884
But you literally fight against mastema on the law route. Why would he be shilling for his own death?
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So I want to get into this series but I have a question

I never liked turn based games because it doesnt require skill at all, well traditional skill and most of "difficult" battles can be won by just using items or buying your win or just a bunch of arbitrary shit like hoping your enemy dont use X move, or hoping you crit

Then when you lose, you have to play through like 2 hours of gameplay to get another shot at rolling the dice

Or you have to grind for hours just to progress through the game and overall is not fun at all

Should I give this series a try?
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>>153230440
Yes.
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>>153229978
Oh. I wouldn't know, I didn't play SMT IV I was just shitposting. But I plan on it once Apocalypse gets released.
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>>153230440
You sound like a huge faggot.

Just try it and see if you like it already.
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>>153230517
alright, does this series not do any of that stuff?

I dont want to be at the mercy of RNG when in most games I personally get better as a person to progress
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>>153229450
I'm a major law fag and I disliked the law route on IV mostly because the people in Mikado had shown to be just as worthless as the Tokyo denizens but the angels are willing to overlook it while giving no second chances to the people in Tokyo. Completely different from SMT II where a bunch of corrupt messians on the center got btfo by not being amongst the chosen to ride the megido arc and even some Mutants were chosen.
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>>153230440
>battles can be won by just using items
Items will only help you so much in these games
>hoping your enemy dont use x move
You'll be hoping they don't use a lot of moves
>lose, have to play through like 2 hours of gameplay
Only if you don't save
>grind for hours
>having to grind in a megaten game
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>>153230701
>I dont want to be at the mercy of RNG when in most games I personally get better as a person to progress

Well according to this thread SMT 4 is not your game then.
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>>153230695
I dont know if I should even bother yet, I'm playing earthbound right now and even though I am enjoying it, it suffers from the same issues

>>153230801
I was going to start with Persona 3 according to the guide

>>153230779
So I dont have to grind in this game? What makes one person better than the other in these games other than knowledge?
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>>153230979
You don't grind in the traditional sense but you will be wasting hours talking to demons and fusing which is not that different from grinding desu.
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>>153230979
>Persona 3

Have fun playing it 2 hours after you start pressing X
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>>153230979
>>153231123
Don't listen to this shitposter, talking to demons and fusing them takes literally minutes.
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Ordered SMT 4 as my first mainline SMT after I beat Persona 3 that took me 4 years. I'm looking forward to seeing the bullshit Masakado can do.
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>>153231220
That's assuming they don't go all RNG on you, which can range from often to rare.
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>>153231220
>takes literally minutes.
Only if you are a casualry bitch that fuse shitty demons
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>>153230979
As long as you don't just run past all the enemies in Persona 3, you won't have to grind, though I'd recommend getting to level 70 at least since you're new.
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>>153230769
What. The point isn't that people in mikado deserved it more. Its that they purified certain people. But they ran out of time, and needed to nuke tokyo now since there was no more time to save people from it and the demonic taint was too high. Obviously they were saving people from tokyo since that's where mikado's original residents were from, and they were working until they got sealed. You dying at the end is to show you that its not about who is "better" but about who saving is for the greater good and when.
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>>153231451
Okay then, I'm going to trust you and play P3P, I have tried Persona 4 at some point in time playing the game normally, not skipping enemies

then randomly a huge creature came and wrecked my shit, like there was no difficulty scaling at all and just fucked my ass up wasting like 3 hours

didnt seem fun at all, it was if I can recall, a red-ish castle and something about rescuing this red headed girl from the TV

The only turn based game I completed was pokemon years ago, but that's probably because of the show at the time or something
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>>153231804
>P3P
Just to let you know, there's no 3D world to walk around in.
It's pretty much a visual novel/point and click.
The only 3D part are the dungeons.

P3P's upside is you can fully control your party and play as a girl, other than that, it's not as good as FES.
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>>153231531
They haven't "purified" anyone. They kidnaped children and took them out of Tokyo before they got exposed to modern culture they also changed them so they would turn into demons if they tried to go against the machinations of Mikado.
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>>153232243
I'll a least try it

also what is the point to psychically striking your enemies? it seems like you would want to keep using the demon powers or whatever yeah?

like why is it in the game?
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>>153232510
Yes they did. The entire setup of mikado was such that if left to itself it would continue indefinitely. You can haggle about the definition of pure if you want, but the point is that they did something to make a perfect system to the mikado residents and didn't really have time to dick around with tokyo anymore now that demons were out.
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>>153232519
Some enemies (but very few) are weak to physical attacks, plus your weapons do pretty good damage.

Also, using Persona skills cost HP/SP, and the better they are, the more it'll cost.
Oh, and you can make weapons later on that do elemental damage.
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>>153232958
thanks for the info, makes sense
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>>153230440
You might like EO a bit better than this. It is far more skill-intensive than any other RPG I've seen.

SMT4 especially is a fucking slot machine of random chance, but other SMT games like Persona and Devil Survivor are better balanced.
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>>153231804
Wait a minute, if P4 kicked your shit in and caused you to lose progress, this is an issue.

I can't think of a single time in P4 where you aren't warned a boss is behind the next door. And I thought P4 was pretty generous with escape items, where you could always save in the TV studio lobby...

If you got your shit pushed in in the castle, you're going to have a bad time in a lot of other RPGs until we figure out the root cause.

Also don't forget Persona is like 90% social link gameplay, 10% RPG. It's really not focused on the RPG stuff at all.

>>153232519
Physical attacks are there for thematic reasons mostly. In most Fatlus RPGs it's rare that attacking straight up is ever smart but there are situations where it's handy, like if you don't have a good spell, are out of mana, or the enemy is a cakewalk and can be sped through.
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>>153235303
It's more about why is this early boss kicking my shit in? I dont grind in games like these and I explore and kill and much as possible so it wouldnt make sense for the boss to kill me in one hit

>>153233753
I'll check it out
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>>153235623
FYI, EO is tough as balls. Every buff, debuff, power, etc matters, and usually one party member's full time job is keeping everyone else from dying, and sometimes a second is needed to assist by fucking up the monsters.

But it is has far stronger game mechanics than most RPGs. EO4 would be a good starting point.

That said, monsters tend to be so strong, and your engine so important, that they can wipe you or cripple you if you get jump attacked. That's about the biggest annoying RNG factor, though you can fix the dice on that if you have a class with a skill that reduces the chance of that, but those skill points might be better used elsewhere...

I guess it's possible it was the reaper that got you in P4... P4 does have that faggot random ass fucker.
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>>153235879
Isn't reaper only NG+ or something in P4?

I bet he died on Yukiko boss or something.
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>>153235879
I see, sounds interesting,

>reaper

I dont remember it looking like that, it looks like this

I did eventually beat it, but I didnt think it was fun hoping he didnt kill me with a OHK move
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>>153237002
No, the Reaper is a guy in a long coat with rattling chains who tends to shoot his pistols randomly.
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Hoy.
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>>153237002
If you get pissed off that early in P4, I dunno what to tell you. It's not even a boss.
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P5 releasing in 2 weeks, and while I don't wanna get spoiled I DESPERATELY need that fucking music- how do I get a hold of it asap ?
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>>153191694
Anyone?
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>>153183710
Is it true that you have to play SMT2 either in Japanese or Spanish? Why?
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>>153208434
Look at things from a Casulary's perspective. Throughout their lives their lives are dictated by the Luxorers. A world where your own standing based solely on your own strength and merit is alluring enough to anyone who lived under the heels of those in power.

Why do you think Issachar chose to read the Literature which was forbidden by those in power. They feared that their own power would be undermined if people learned to doubt what they are indoctrinating their own lower class with.

This shit is common in most religions that forbid reading anything outside their own scriptures.
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>>153224113
Your tastes are good
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>>153254175
>A world where your own standing based solely on your own strength and merit is alluring enough to anyone who lived under the heels of those in power.
But releasing demons on Tokyo/Mikado wouldn't change that, instead of the Luxorors/Tayama the humans would get enslaved by the actively malicious demons. Humans can't coexist as equals with the demons, we are no match for them. The Ring of Gaia are training their bodies to physical perfection and even they can barely match some weak demons.

I am not saying you should do nothing about the shitty status quo. Dismantle the Ashura-kai and the Ring of Gaia, redistribute the cell phones to the Hunter Association, give them the NDD mediums, Think up a plan of attack on the angels. But, really, releasing the demons helps no one but the demons.
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>>153256835
While I can sympathize with what you are saying, it should be mentioned that we have the advantage of hindsight, the characters have not.

From the moment you make the decision to support someone, you have two fairly balanced sides to the whole issue.

You either slay Lilith, who IS responsible for turning people into demons, but is trying to lessen the grip the Monastery/Ashura-Kai has on the Casualries/rest of Tokyos populace.

The whole open the Expanse/Destroy Tokyo comes in later, when you already made the decision to help your respective side. And for me, if I would have the choice between getting eaten by a demon, or wasting away in the underground and wait for Tayama's men to abduct and feed me to the demons ANYWAY, I'd go for the former.

Besides, your "solution" does not really answer why you would support the Angels, only that you would go down the Neutral option, which is not a choice during that portion of the game. The Ring of Gaea and the Ashura-Kai have been in a stalemate for while now, with no apparent shift towards one or the other way, they have access to WAY stronger demons (The NDDs as an example), and Tayama has a monopoly on other summoning methods.

So, opening the Expanse would be a way (if a radical one) to destabilize the stalemate swiftly between all sides. Would there be chaos?
Oh yes, but without someone holding every method to control demons, the situation is not completely hopeless.
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>>153258602
>The whole open the Expanse/Destroy Tokyo comes in later, when you already made the decision to help your respective side.
Yes, which is why Neutral character would never side with Walter in the first place, since opening the gate makes no sense if you are neutral, and the game doesn't give you a choice in the matter.

>if I would have the choice between getting eaten by a demon, or wasting away in the underground and wait for Tayama's men to abduct and feed me to the demons ANYWAY, I'd go for the former.
But you are the MC, you are not powerless, your option are a lot more open then that.

>Besides, your "solution" does not really answer why you would support the Angels
I am not supporting the Angels. Just because I go with Jonathan doesn't mean I agree with his reasoning. I am helping humanity by killing a very dangerous demon. It just so happens that we want the same thing for now. (and that the only other option is retarded)

>So, opening the Expanse would be a way (if a radical one) to destabilize the stalemate swiftly between all sides.
Walter and Jonathan solo the Ashura-Kai and Ring of Gaia respectively if you don't side with them, which means you could do the same thing. Releasing the demons is unnecessary to break the stalemate when you can just solo both sides of the conflict.
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In DeSu2 I'm trying to get the "Remove Passive" fusion enhancement.

Is there any strategic way to get this or do I just have to pray to RNG that I get it?
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>>153260975
There's some sort of add-on "wheel" that cycles through the add-ons available at that day.

So if you got a remove Passive thing, you'd have to get all other add-ons available at that day to get another.

Also, you can only keep one of each add-on, so you can't farm a infinite spawn story mission to stack 6 of whatever.
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ONE
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I CAN'T HEAR YOU
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>>152969143
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>>153267391
NOW HEAR ME SCREAM
THE VOICE OF TRUE EVIL
THE CHILLING SONG
YOUR HEART IS CRAVING, SAY MORE
GET READY SING
IT'S PARTY TIME IN HELL
THE SONG OF DEATH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxzuFKhJcDU
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>>152977635
>her stomach is literally one gigantic boob
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>>152993930
Play Digital Devil Saga 2
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>>153269508
They're genderless. And not in the meme kind of way either.
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>>153269936
Oh alright
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Hoy.
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>>153258602
>Besides, your "solution" does not really answer why you would support the Angels, only that you would go down the Neutral option, which is not a choice during that portion of the game.

Their point is that killing Lilith is something that even neutral characters would want to do. The fact that the angels also want to is neither here nor there. Breaking a stalemate between two sides by creating an even stronger side that is openly crazy is a terrible idea. At least the stalemate gives neutral the ope they can slowly shittle both sides down. Letting demons unambiguously take over is a bad idea.
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>>153276410
Who's the authour?
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>>153277414
*Artist.
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>Going for Daichi restoration path
>Get everyone to join me back
>Didn't get the restoration ending
>Apparently I had to say "We'll restore the world"

WHERE THE FUCK IS THIS DIALOGUE OPTION AD WHY WASN'T IT MENTIONED IN https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tUvLiPi9FU-U6QmPDuMF8DyJQTRQ5yiPbqQcurdePPI/edit FUCK
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Hoy.
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>Replaying Nocturne because I never managed to beat it
>Decide to get different demons than usual, the ones I previously deemed "bad"
My eyes have been opened.
Suddenly I've got demons with practically infinite mana (either mana aid or mana drain) and strong spells/status effects while only being at Ikebukuro.
This makes me feel like an idiot, because I didn't even consider using the demons that gives all the good stuff in the past.

Have you lads ever had an experience like this with any of the SMT games?
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>>153283105
All the time bb.
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>>153280868
Oh wow I got the Triumphant achievement even if I didn't pick the ending, because the title is tied to getting everyone to rank 4, sweet
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>>153283105
That happened to me a week ago while playing Nocturne. I switched out my Kushinada and Baihu for Amaterasu and Girimehkala and the game has been a cakewalk. The only time I died afterwards was when Mithra used mamudo on the first turn. Fucked him up once I switched to an anti-death magatama.
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>>153283105
>avoid using physical attacks on first playthrough because I was told they were bad
>currently doing over 3k damage on criticals with shitty mid-damage phys skills after casting tarukaja a couple of times
>thats like 7-10 times as much a -Dyne spell would do on a endgame persona with high magic attack
Maxing Luck isn't really giving me as many criticals as I thought it would though, unfortunately.
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>>153229234
When you only know of two entire cities in existence, it gets a little more unbelievable mate. Nuking two cities in an entire country can be justified. Nuking your only other half? Not as easy.

It's not about ending a war, quickly, either. It's just straight up genocide.
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>>153283105
In SMT4 I never used the -karn skills because I thought they would be a waste of turns in case the enemies use the wrong abilities. And I didn't download the apps to make demon negotiation until the endgame. I corrected my mistakes in my second playthrough but I kept my high level and skills from my second playthrough so it wasn't as challenging. I'll do a reincarnation playthrough to get the neutral ending someday.
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If he's really so powerful then how come he's just a giant statue?
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>>153175236
>Try to get Io's fate to level 4 on the Septentrione Arc.
I swear I only had fate 3 and she lived;
it's probably more complex than just getting to fate rank 4 to have her not die
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>>153249961
English fan translation version is bugged a bit, I have no idea how bad

and if you're gonna learn Jap to play the first 2 games play them on PSX, not SNES
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>>153290945
You just have to be near 4, not actually at 4
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>>153290945
>>153292574
You also have to do that one event where you comfort her, I think. The game straight up tells you to do it, though, so it's hard to miss.
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>>153288740
God fucking damnit.
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Fucking hell, just lost my DeSu 2 Record Breaker copy at school today.

Any kind anon want to send me a replacement?
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>>153294373
Give me a Soma
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>>153294373
You've lost your save data anyhow, so you're doomed.
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>>153294373
Sent.
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>>153294529
Fuck you nigger, I'm not walking all the way to get a Soma only for you to tell me to go back and get another one.

>>153294563
Nah, I had barely started to play it.

>>153294572
Thanks, anon.
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SMT x Trauma Center
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>>153294712
Mudo

>>153295081
Vaughn a qt
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>>153295081
>>153295249
Dr. Hugh Jackman and Dr. Halle Berry
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>>153295619
Was Soejima the artist for both Valerie and Vaughn? They're very attractive

Has anyone here beaten a Trauma Center game? I only got up to that operation where you have to give that Mexican kid a new liver in UTK 2 That PGS operation in Chapter 2 and that one with the fever in Chapter 1 made me drop the game multiple times
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>>153296141
I've beaten every one and I love the series to death.

Trauma Team is MUCH easier than all the others and it is chock full of utter batshit cheese like "AND THEN THE TWO DOCTORS KICK DOWN THE DOOR AT THE SECRET NINJA CLAN MEETING..."
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>>153295081
I always felt like Trauma Center x Ace Attorney was such an obvious logical next step.
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>>153296561
Trauma Center works at cross purposes with AA. Without deaths, Phoenix has no job.
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>>153297950
This was a good game

Except the endoscopy, I never want to see that trash again
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>>153298273
>endoscopy
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>>153249961
No, but if you know spanish you should play that one instead of English.
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>>153286429
>maxing luck
>when you can just use pixie
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>>153294180
This game hates me.

This is also the first time I've gone through this area with Zio spells.
Those Eligor fights are a lot easier thanks to that, god damn.
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>>153295081
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What things are always kept in SMTIV's NG+?

Just wanna know cause if Incense boosts don't stay I'll dump them all on a demon to carry over, but otherwise those go all to MC.
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>>153298576
Not sure I understand this post
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Will I get anything in SMT4F for having SMT4 data?
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>>153301273
Yes.
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>>153300803
Always carried over = Streetpass demon, compendium, Demon/Flynn Skill Slots.

That's it.

Streetpass demon cannot be used during the final battle because it's stuck in streetpass.
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>>153301346
What do I get? Is it worth rushing the Chaos ending to have all the endings?
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>>153301660
Every ending gets a streetpass title appropriate for the ending, a 20 point card, and I think an XP book.
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Is the new thread creator around?
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>>153301660
I think it is a couple of those tomes that give you level boosts. It isn't super significant, but if you clear with multiple endings you get more of them.
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>>153301992
The point cards are more interesting sounding.

>>153301660
You get the disappointment of having played SMT4 that many times.
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>>153299847
>maxing any stat in Persona
>when you can just equip a persona that has a high value in that stat
I don't really see your point.
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>>153301906
why can't it be (You)?
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>>153303263

because I'm just a kid and life is a Naitomea
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>Vita hacked
>no megatens on it
Fuck
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>>153300803
>Just wanna know cause if Incense boosts don't stay I'll dump them all on a demon to carry over, but otherwise those go all to MC.

I beat SMT IV recently, and my MC's stats remained the same as they were pre-NG+, so I think incenses do carry over.
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>>153301906
Just wait until the thread hits 750.
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>>153303693
>pirating megaten

Filth
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>>153304698
How do you think most of us are getting SMT4A lol
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>153304810
>that post
>pirating niche games
>lol
no (You)s 4 u
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>>153304698
>paying for inferior dubbed and censored product
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Probably a stupid question but how will I be able to claim bonuses for playing and finishing IV in IV Apocalypse if the former is physical and the latter is digital? Will I be unable to?
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>>153304810
To be fair I pirated TMS#FE and I liked it so much I bought it. If 4A turns out to be close to as good, I may pick it up too.
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>>153305336
I'm pretty sure you can get a physical version of IV Apocalypse
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>>153305726
I can, yes, but I don't want to. I lean more towards digital nowadays, especially for games that don't come with anything cool like IV did on release.

So, is it possible or am I fucked?
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>>153305074
>SMT4A is censored

nigga what
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>>153305074
>inferior dub
correct
>censored
no nigger, no
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>>153305074
>assuming every game is censored so that you can pirate everything without guilt
What the next step in your master plan?
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Mahama
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>>153305073
>muh piracy is wrong
lawfags
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>>153308631
Anon you fucked up your greentext, but thank you for the info. Guess I'll just have to wait and see.
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>>153308693
I know, it's weird. I even formatted it before my wifi told me to off myself.
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>>153308147
Mamudoon
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Hoy.
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Peace at least
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>>153305074
I really liked the SMT4 dub
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Thread is near 750. Is the new OP creator around? Just have a request if you would.
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Fuck, I hope it's not too late.

The MTII link is outdated in the OP. Could you update it with

>http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php?build=5

This build is downloadable and playable as well.
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>>153315075
What is it?
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>>153315443
Kill yourself.
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>>153315487
I was going to make the new thread anyway, so I didn't want to leave anything out. Anyone can make the thread, so even if I didn't, someone could include what the anon wanted
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New thread:
>>153316814
>>153316814
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>>153302903
Pixie maxes it. So you'd know if luck was worth it or not without comitting.
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