/smtg/ - 真・女神転生 / Shin Megami Tensei General

Persona is the future of SMT.

SMT is for casuals.

>>153316814
All the Giten info is wrong, you should've updated the link.

Shin Megami Tensei If... when?

>>153316814

>MTII update

Thanks for the Shill op.

>>153317247
Could you post the link so the next anon that does the thread can include it?

>>153317743
I can't tell if that's an insult or not

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Who /spoilingP5on/v/and/pg/firstday/ here?

>>153317960

Wasn't an insult, lel. I was rushing to get home on time before the new OP was created so I could ask for the link to be updated, so I truly do appreciate the change.

>>153317274
november 2018

>>153317960
It's linked to the other OP.

>>153318158
Ah, okay No problem man

>>153318597
This is it, right?
http://pastebin.com/5qaYUwQi

>>153317043
That's why this OP is about glorious celtic god instead.

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Have you pre ordered your copy of apocalypse yet? you don't want to lose those cool bonus do you? I mean is not as cool of what japan got but hey!

>>153319984
First we need to come up with a way to stop the Fatlus tax.

>>153319984
physical 3DS games prices are going insane in my country, maybe i will go digital this time.

>>153317016
That makes sense. I decided what stat I would focus on by rolling though, to mix things up a bit. At least every fucking demon I kill seems to drop a item, so that's kinda cool.

>>153319984

Had it as part of the 20% off e3 deal but cancelled it.

I'll swipe it off Kijiji for poverty cash after a while. I still have to beat Journey and Nocturne/SMT4.

>>153319984
>shilling your garbage expansion by bringing up literally useless badges
Lol day 0 pirating undub lad. Feels good not supporting this piece of shit company.

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>>153322219
>this company is a piece of shit
>but I'm still going to play their games anyway

>>153323324
chaosfags everyone

>>153322194
This, but mine isn't cancelled. Yet.

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SMT x Narco novelas when

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So which pins are you going to wear out, smtg?

>>153332017
all of them because i am edgy

>>153332017
Peace

Mashibaboo

>>153332017
>3 pins
D E E P N E U T RA L

There's a big sale on PS2 classics on the PSN store right now. I'm thinking of buying both Digital Devil Sagas because I had trouble running Nocturne on my PC with PCSX2.
Is there any problem with these games? Nocturne on EU PSN has an awful bug that freezes the game on the cutscene right after you defeat kagutsuchi and forces a restart. I had to convert the save file and play it on PCXS2 to beat the game. Thankfully it was at the very end of the game and I only had to play the kagutsuchi and Lucifer boss fights, they looked like complete shit because I had to get it running smoothly.
If no one knows, is there a database of PSN games, listing any known bugs?

Is Apocalypse going to be good or a flop? As much as I like SMT, 4 is rather weak and only good for the meme.

>>153341254
There aren't any in the EU versions, it's the NA versions with problems. Buy them.

>>153343402
I did some research and apparently the games run like shit, they run at 80% speed, is this what you meant by problems exclusive to NA?

>>153318094
I hope you spoil it here too. It's only right to get the dumb faggots who will come here from /pg/ or /v/ thinking it's "safe".

>>153319984
I'm not buying it. Stop overpricing your games and you might have avoided this fate.

>>153341254
The save transfer feature doesn't work in the EU psn version of dds2. There were also a couple bugs during some the cutscenes but I don't remember the details.

>>153346916
I'll pick them up I guess. they are on sale for quite cheap.

>>153346964
I remember reading that there was a way to get the system transfer working but I its been awhile so I can't really remember.

RECARM

>>153351835
>not Samarecarm

Low level pleb.

>>153351920
>wasting MP this early in the day
Thread will just die again, maybe wait till later?

>>153351971
I've got three different mana recovery sources, I can go for days.

So, what does Mastema do in Final?

>>153319984
I'm getting it on the eshop so no. Physical copies of Atlus games on the 3DS are hard to get in Europe, and they're overpriced last time I checked.

I can play Nocturne without the candelabrum in the first playtrough but do it in the second without losing anything?

>>153353295
If you really think you can handle two full runs of nocturne like that.

Hoy.

Hoy.

>>153357247
>>153359612
Hooooy!

SMT x KOF

>>153361294
>>153357247
>>153359612
Hooooooooy.

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Hoy.

>>153353295
Only thing that carries over is the compendium. Any demons you recorded in it will be able to be summoned at any level, so if you have the money, you can summon a level 70 demon early on to easily flatten boss battles.

Word of advice, create a low level quad elemental demon and log it in the compendium as a custom demon before finishing your first playthrough. (Agidyne, Bufudyne, Zandyne, Ziodyne) along with Elemental boosts (Fire, Ice, Force, Elec).

You can use the Ma-dyne spells, but they eat up 25 MP vs the 10 MP cost.

Do not make that quad elemental demon a Pixie, because Pixie in general gets a huge boost in the Labyrinth of Amala once you reach a certain point.

Are these lv75 bosses in Shinjuku worth beating at level 20 in SMT4? They look sorta easy despite the level.

>have friend with Persona Q
>he bought it for the bonus content
>now he can't get it to boot past the "an error has occurred" message
How can that shit get fixed? He asked me, I didn't know, and when I googled it nothing came up.
And he's not a piratefag.

>>153375220
Physical or digital? Because I got physical and the same thing happened to me, only I just got a second copy.

>>153376107
physical
Well at least he has the goodies from his special edition, I guess. I would have just pirated it if I thought it was good.

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So are minibosses and bosses just straight up immune to status effects?

Playing SMT4 with a luck/agility only build, focused on support looking to make the game as hard as possible, but if random encounter demons are the only thing that get afflicted with status I'm gonna lose my shit at all the hours I've wasted so far.

Devil Survivor 3 on 09/01 direct screencap bitches.

>>153377580
You're better off waiting for the Apocalypse.

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>>153377580
>megaten
>rely on ailment skills ever

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>>153378116
I'm going to enjoy watching you be wrong.

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>>153378325
You'll enjoy it even more if I'll be right

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>>153378116
It's gonna be fucking nothing as usual.

>>153378116
I hope not
it'd probably be more DeSu2 Bullshit
I can only stomach so much shitty plot, even if it is paired with great gameplay

>>153378520
Usuka is worst girl.

>>153319984
>tfw forced to wait for european release so I can support the market and remind fatlus that we exist

>>153379235
but DeSu 2 is better than DeSu 1

About to play through Nocturne for the first time in years. I'd like to play through on Hard, and take it to the TDE, and then NG+. What are the optimum builds/skills again? I know I should be dumping stats into Phys.

>>153379235
Just play Overclocked
>>153379543
Not even good b8

>>153379707
>Just play Overclocked
I did, I played both

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>>153379543
I wish it was anon.

>>153379819
Then play it again.

>5 days if nothing
>huurr demon king contest
>become a demon lord and go kill God for your gay cousin because he's evil
Why this general pretends the first DeSu isn't just a garbage as the second one again?

Persona 4> Persona 4 arena>> Persona 4 ultimax>>>> Persona Q>>>>>>>>> My Shit>>>Persona 3>>>>The SMT series. Prove me wrong faggots.

>>153380280
>5 days of nothing
>huurr demon king contest
Oh yeah, that's why you fight both Beldr and Belial before day 5!

>become a demon lord and go kill God for your gay cousin because he's evil
No, he's Cain and he has a right to be mad at God for what happened to him. Whether it justifies what he does is up to your interpretation because you have a fucking choice to support him or not.

>>153380280
Demon king contest in the middle of the apocalypse is a pretty cool concept though.

>>153380280
So you'd rather an eva clone but with more fujoshit?

>>153380280
The same reason this general pretends that IV is bad or SJ music is good. This place reeks of teenagers retardation.

>>153380494
Fuck meant just Beldr. The contest is also mentioned several times before Day 5.

>>153380389
>Not the first post from this IP

You could just bump the thread with a fancy image, you know?

>>153380581
Calling everyone teenagers doesn't magically make you older anon.

>>153380581
But 4 is clearly the end of SMT

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>>153380389
I can't now you can fuck off.

>>153380705
But I wanna shitpost before I go to bed

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>>153380706
I fucking wish

>>153380737
Not yet, they will make 5 for PS4 recycling the demon models from persona 5.

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>>153381117
>implying V won't be NX exclusive

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>>153379235
>>153379543
>>153379707
DeSu2 is way better than DeSu1, how anyone can think otherwise is beyond me. The only, and literally only thing DeSu1 has over DeSu2 is the plot, and even then it's paced poorly.

In DeSu1, you're stuck with Atsuro and Yuzu for like 30 fuckin' hours. Furthermore, nothing really happens for the first 3 days, there's no need to spend 3 days to show us that Tokyo is becoming more and more of a mess.

The only 3 other party members you get before the route split is Keita, who is sullen and kind of boring after his arc is over, Midori who's a total retard and who has an awful voice, and the teacher who was never really that interesting because her arc was just "muh revenge ok I have nothing else to do now lemme join you guys".

The fact that Naoya is Cain and MC is Abel is a legitimately cool plot point but Naoya's route doesn't even go anywhere. HURRR I WANNA' KILL GOD 'CAUSE HE TORMENTS ME and you don't even fight God in his route, what the fuck? Gin is cool but the motivations to pick his path are pointless. The Shomonkai are nice and the twist with their worship is pretty good.

The King of Bel suff was so trash though, absolute pure shonenshit with the Bels having little to no personalities, I might as well be fighting cardboard boxes.

DeSu2's story isn't as strong but overall it's better paced, each day you fight a big bad. Each day you get new party members, you get more of a diverse cast of characters to pick from, there are more builds involved, the gameplay has been refined, the OST is leagues better than DeSu1, and the fact that you fight your comrades in the route split is pretty sweet. Io and Daichi are far better and more entertaining than Atsuro and Yuzu. You actually fight God in DeSu2, and Record Breaker's story expansion is better than the 8th day stuff in Overclocked. And there's no one in DeSu1 who is as amazing as Yamato is in DeSu2, Naoya doesn't even come close. WAY more demons too in DeSu2.

DeSu2 > DeSu1

>>153381479
>the OST is leagues better than DeSu1

Bullfucking shit.

>>153381479
>
The King of Bel suff was so trash though, absolute pure shonenshit with the Bels having little to no personalities, I might as well be fighting cardboard boxes.

And DeSu2 restarting the world with the power of friendship isn't?

>>153380494
>No, he's Cain and he has a right to be mad at God for what happened to him
Literally what the fuck.

>>153381618
I agree with that point.

The OST of DeSu1 is of very poor quality, I think only SJ is bellow it.

>>153381779
They're both shonenshit but I prefer DeSu2's shonenshit over DeSu1's

>>153381618
This, i dont even remember most of the OST of DeSu2 while i can tell by name the DeSu1 OST

>>153381779
This is the second fucking thread that I fucked up a greentext.

>>153380389
my opinion>yours

>>153381907
Wow you sure are retarded lad.

>>153381971
I won't lie, I kind of am.

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Hi, I'm just getting into smt and I've been playing nocturne for a couple hours, I love it so far, but the thing is I cannot into turn based strategy, I always drop jrpgs two thirds of the way in because I'm incapable of anything other than spamming debuffs and attacks, so I was wondering if you guys had any tips for late game smt?

>>153342158
Apocalypse will be much better than Iv. Unlike IV which has no plot, apocalypse's plot starts right away. And there's more going on.

>>153382209
Max Luck.

>>153382209
Grind and fuse? SMT is hard, but people meme it up to be harder than it really is. Nearly every SMT can be beat if you just grind and fuse good demons.

>>153382209
I don't know what your problem is exactly if you love the game, I guess late game will have harder bosses for you to change your strategy a bit?

>>153382209
Just keep doing what you're doing, and don't listen to >>153382308, max agility.

>>153382283
IV has a plot. The Adventure of Hoyboy and Friends.

>>153352224
Nothing. He's not in it at all, other than showing up as an illusion or whatever random enemy. I'm still not sure how that dungeon works, but I think the entities in it are not meant to be seen as real. Or at least aren't sentient yet.

>>153382209
Max vitality m8.

>get black card
>see the arms shop
>demonica
How do I get that much fucking money? I only just killed Lilith.

>>153382209
Max Magic stat

>>153381618
DeSu 1 OST sounds like it was made by a highschool rock band.

>>153382209
Max Strength pussy

>>153382529
fight black rider alot or hang out in that area, alot of tier 5 goods spawn there

>>153382529
Grind cash the hard way or buy the macca DLC.

>>153382619
You say like it's a bad thing.

>>153382209
Max everything.
Don't believe the memes. Look at someone's endgame build and go with that.
The OP is a lie.

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>>153382619

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>>153382529
DLCs

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>>153382798
I-it makes total sense to pay real money for levels. A-atlus would never try to jew us would they?

>>153382798
Exactly what happens in the DLC for exp and macca and app points?
How does it give you all the shit?

>>153383085
You kill mid-level mobs/mitamas for tons of expensive items/exp.tomes while wandering in one in-game location. Nothing else happens.

>>153382353
>grinding
literally anything bar the optional bosses is beatable with the right strategy and it's the saving grace of this series in a pool of oversimplified turn based jrpgs, why would you suggest that over "get a balanced team and think about a good strategy if you're having a hard time"?

>>153382209
Focus and punching everything

>decide to restart Nocturne on hard
>Preta crits me on first attack, killing me instantly
>this happens three more times

Just found my Soul H4X0RZ copy and am starting a newgame. What's the best build for Nemissa?

>>153384352
magic, endurance, and int, if I remember correctly.
She's your main build, the Hacker can only use a regular attack and the COMP.

>>153384760
Thanks.

>>153384760
I would value agility over endurance.

Nemissa is a good healer, so it is convenient that she gets to do an action before anyone else.

Is it worth it in SH to Up the difficulty or just play with it off? I'm at the second vision quest.

I'm kind of autistic and heard the game was a bit on the easy side so would rather play as much as I can with the hardest challenge. But if it's like Nocturne's Hard mode then I won't.

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>starting KMT
>Kill a demon
>this happen
what

>>153387239
Go ahead, it's worth it.

>>153381243
not if atlus like money

>>153387656
>Implying they want filthy gaijin sheckles

>>153319984
what do you even get?

>>153388371
if the nx is a home console is DOA

>>153388423
Different outfits for the protagonist, unique ones for Gamestop, Amazon, and Best Buy off the top of my head.

>>153388423
Pins.

>>153388569
>>153388675
Lame

>>153388438
But I like Dead Or Alive.

>>153388921
What are you talking about? Pins are awesome! Not to mention the EPIC clothes you get at your local retail of choice!

>>153382209
Increase either Strength or Magic as your key stat for damage. Vitality and Agility are always necessary.

Buffing and Debuffing are very key elements in SMT series. Always have a demon who has Dekaja and Dekunda, late game demons have an ability called Debilitate which reduces all enemy parameters, try and get one of them and pass on the skill to another so you can have a viable team going.

Get every Magatama to unlock a bonus dungeon where you will get a special one which resists nearly all damage.

Try and have a demon that acts like an Elemental Lightning Rod; AKA have a demon that can Null All 4 Elements so enemy turns can be eaten up with no problem.

Cover up all your demon's weaknesses. For example, if one demon is weak to Fire, you slap on Resist or Null Fire on it to prevent enemies from getting extra press turns.

Also, do not neglect demons who have Recarmdra, Nocturne is very lenient with that, it fully restores your team's HP and MP at the cost of the life of the Caster. Said demon can be revived with Recarm/Samarecarm but must be summoned again.

Try and get demons who can drain MP, it will refill their MP pool as well as make it easier to get an enemy to stop casting magic due to MP deficit.

>>153388569
The gothic lolita clothes aren't pre-order right?

>>153391758
Not seeing that, no.

>>153370612
The items they loot will only be useful for a certain quest much later in the game, which you absolutely will want to do as soon as you get it.

And if you're planning on doing them at lv20, you'll have to fuse or recruit demons who null/drain/repel the bosses' attacks, or prepare to get screwed over by the RNG.

>>153392449
I'll just put it on hold for now then, thanks.

>>153377580
Bosses and midbosses are immune to ailments in SMT.

You wanna play with ailments, go play EO.

>>153377580
> looking to make the game as hard as possible,
why? SMT4 isn't really a smart or deep enough game to carry that sort of difficulty.

>>153380389
Are Arena and Ultimax that good?

>>153380581
>pretends 4 is bad
>pretends
lol

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Someone told me that in SMTI, the gods that show up on the messian side are referred to as angels. Is this true?

>>153397446
>Are Arena and Ultimax that good?
I was just shitposting senpai.

>>153370612
I was close to beating a couple of those fags but you really are not grinded up enough to take them. And the rewards aren't worth doing now.

That said, I think their lairs have better XP monsters than you can fight in the next few zones and are somehow much easier despite being higher leveled so it may be worth knocking over a couple just for the app points.

>>153397783
One more thing, the map never, EVER gets more useful or easier to navigate.

So if you WANT to remember where these are to come back later, you're gonna need to basically write down directions from the nearest warp zone.

>>153397446
Ultimax is godawful. The only redeeming thing is that it is an okay fighter.

>>153397638
all the archangels appears, but i dont remember anyone referring them as gods

>>153400934
I meant whether people referred to the polytheistic gods as angels, not the angels as gods.

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Man what the hell.
>Playing DeSu Overclocked
>on the menu this kickass music plays when you're selecting events
>have this autistic asian roommate who's always dancing to shit, whenever he hears a tune he likes he dances
>comes into my room
>look up and already see him getting riled up
>whatever, just put it louder and wait for him to finish, it's entertaining at least
>suddenly kick flips my 3DS out of my hand and into the wall
>my 3DS and game are now fucking broken

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>>153401201

>>148875026
>>142788876
>>127585869

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>>153401201

>>153401353
God fucking damn it.

>>153401374
And you too, screw you both.

>>153401504
Are you finally gonna give up or am I gonna have to expose you once again in a month or two?

who did dis whats habbened?

>>153400105
Let me calibrate the definition of awful here. Are you talking awful as a meme cuz weebsona sucks or awful as in "P4 was good. P4DAN was even kinda good at times when it wasn't awful, but Ultimax really is shit."

And really there's more good fightans than I am ever going to play.

>>153405879
>You can't hate Persona because it's a meme
(You)

>>153406170
mad chaosnigger

>>153406464
Jokes on you faggozoid, I'm neutral.

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>>153406864
>mfw rused hard

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just melody my shit up

>>153408236
On /v/

>>153397638
Any deities that are aligned with Law will be on the Messian side. It sort of goes into the whole theme of YHVH transforming gods into demons and the worshippers of the gods of old are slain. Astaroth for example was Ishtar.

Some of the Gods side with YHVH for whatever reason they have, either out of fear or they naturally sided with him due to wanting power or something.

The other games do expand on it and explain a bit more about how it works. At the end of 2, YHVH explains that it's the will of the universe that will cause him to reconstitute as long as humans want him to return.

>>153408535
Thanks friend! :]]]]

>design the mantra system
>somehow expect a retard like me to be able to build a proper character from this

On top of not knowing what to invest time and Macca in, aside from common sense stuff, I either evel up very slowly or get a sick devouring combo on some enemies and an instant stomach ache. Fucking Digital Devil Saga.

No idea why I'm enjoying myself so much with this game.

>>153408923
>No idea why I'm enjoying myself so much with this game
Because it's fun.

>>153408923
DDS is boring.

>>153409324
"Repetitive" is the word you're looking for. But I'm not even ten hours in so the novelty hasn't worn off yet.

>>153409260
Which is weird given the level design, plot, characters, etc.

>>153375220
>>153376107
>>153376721
I guess I should be thankful mine seems to work fine.

>>153405879
Ultimax's story is a level of awful that hurts and angers me at the entirety of its squandered potential and shitty desire to create garbage new characters.

>>153401201
Never post this again, or show your face here.

>>153410167
>>153401353
>>153401374
Is there something I missed out on?

>level 54 Asherah can't 1 shot a level 1Lham Dearg on Master difficulty
Well shit.

man I'm replaying smt 1 & 2 on my cfw 3ds
truly probably the most comfortable console to play on

>>153414543
Is custom firmware a pain to install? I bought a 2DS for $40 a while back. I already have two 3DS XLs, so I was thinking of putting CFW on it.

>>153414812
2ds can't run snes games unfortunately
you need a n3ds for snes emulation
the process itself though is really easy and worth it
its rewarding in itself and it feels great to break through the various layers of security and after that you feel like you'd have unlocked godmode and can just do whatever the fuck you want with the console
they recently made the main guide to install cfw even easier so its not a pain at all but yeah if you are going in just for smt 1 and 2 the result would be disappointing
you could undub your smt4 though, or download if you don't own it already
https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki

>>153415195
If it's easy, I may as well do it. I already have a DSi XL with a Supercard DSTWO for playing SNES games, among other things. I just want it to play games uncensored, like Bravely Default.

I would never undub my SMTIV, or any game really.

He updated the guide from a supposed 4 hours to 1. I stopped at rednand. With Luma, that's good enough for me.

Died three steps away from leaving the 250,000 macca room in Nocturne. Someone sell me some luck incense please

Ronaldo eats his wheaties. Nearly oneshots most of my team. We were half dead when I beat him and I was about to pitch a fit when the boss appeared.

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Why nobody other than demifiend swallows magatama? It only works if lucifer put it in your mouth?

>>153419104
They either kill you slowly and painfully or make you the one and only Demi-Fiend. I don't think many humans would risk it...

Granted, there's only what? Six humans in the game.

Do chasing segments bother you guys? The guard in DDS2 and Dante in the 3rd Kalpa seriously stress me the fuck out.

>>153410156
Ouch.

>>153406170
Uh, up thread, people are shitting on DeSu Overclocked's plot. Let's not kid ourselves about memes

>>153419654
And like two other humans besides the demifiend become half demons.

why do they call Personas demons in SMT4 and DeSu2:RB?

>>153422147
Well SMT4 is the Dark Souls of Persona. It was an attempt to make the series more edgy. So instead of calling them personas, they changed it to demons. Simple.

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Idk if I posted it already, I think I just did it and forgot to put it here, I did a thing a month or to ago, enjoy

I'm making another one atm

https://imgur.com/a/i5eyl

nsfw

>>153424532
Did you make one for scathach?

>>153427121
im thinking about doing it but I have no idea what would fit her personality/lorewise

BDSM? GFD? idk man

>>153427741
Thighjobs.

>>153427857
I like the way you think

>>153427741
>>153427857
>tfw literally tell a girl I want the friendship of her thighs
>she laughs and asks what that even means
>explain the lore to her
>she gives me the friendship of her thighs later that night

Bitches love mythology.

>>153428765
Did you cum all over her?

>>153429097
I came inside her. Pulling out is no fun.

>>153429275
Absolute madman. Was she on the pill?

>>153429470
She had some copper thing shoved up in there that prevented her from getting pregnant for 5 years.

>>153430046
It may have to do with the fact that I'm a virgin, but that worries me cause I've never heard of such a thing.

Heat did nothing wrong

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>>153408669
None of that was what I was asking. I just want to know whether some of the gods on the messian side get referred to as angels.

>>153432252
IUDs are fun.

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Should we all jerk it again?

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Its been 3 years since i beat DS: Soul Hackers on easy bc it was my first MegaTen and didn't know the importance of buffing and debuffing is the game worth replaying? I didn't do any of the super bosses or anything past the final boss.

Also should i pass on the original DS?

https://youtu.be/iG9N1yjehmc

>>153436682
Erase this at once.

Hoy.

Hoy.