Fighting Games General /fgg/

YATAGARASU SUCKS LMAOOOOO

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put jubei in CF

>>152645820
Don't be a pussy and Dodge

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gimme

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goober gear confirmed our official game

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>learn (new thing I need to do to improve)
>instantly forget it the second I get into a match
>remember after the match
>forget once the next one starts

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How do you guys do your SNK button layouts on modern sticks?

Like pic related: ABCD

Or in a square:

AB
CD

>>152647149
I use the second one but I'm trash at kof

>>152647149
A_C
_B_D

like a man

>>152647149
Does ABCD stand for anything? I mean if i'm used to the whole 1234 thing from Tekken would that transfer?

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Who the fuck thought Merkava was a good idea
>full screen normals and specials
>really good air mobility
>a dive kick that can be canceled into an air fireball or a throw
and worst of all
>a fucking ex dp that is not only safe on block, but also leads to a full combo on hit WITHOUT vorpal

>>152647149
pic related actually makes sense but most people are to used to to having punches and kicks in the same row

>>152647013
Lmfaooo that dodge tho

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>>152647278
A=LP
B=LK
C=HP
D=HK

at least for KOF

>>152647330
Just block

i just hit 0 lp

>>152647149
I have an 8 button stick and I jump with the lk button.

>>152647387
who do you play

>>152647149
I do KOF 13 layout

AC
BD

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Is there anyone more ours than Xian?

>>152647527
laura

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>>152647653

>>152647731
>3D
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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if i ever met a dizzy cosplayer irl it would be a miracle if i didnt rape her/him

>>152647731
Yeah but Xian is successful and handsome and good at games shit I guess Jiyuna really is our guy

>>152647751
>being autistic

lol?

What button layout do Koreans and Chinese use for kof

>>152647795
That's the point you fucking retard

>>152647761
caln down hawaiin man poster

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>>152647783
Are you saying Jiyuna is not handsome and good at games?

>>152647149
abc
d

patrician layout

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>>152647861
correct that is what im saying

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>>152647149
I use square but in a weird order

BC
AD

>>152647149

Square makes rolling easier for me

Why are people getting so offended by Biscuits saying you shouldn't play SF if you're not making money off it?

>>152648168
Because it triggers capcucks trying to convince themselves that they are actually having fun

>>152648168
He said that?

Holy shit goobers are a parody of themselves lmao. Literally no one more bitter than goofy goobers in the fgc

>>152648168
because telling people not to play a game because they're not making money in it is on part with saying you play a game to make money from it

>>152648168
who

>>152648289
His point is that the game is bad and the only reason to play it is if you are making money off it. He's not saying that you SHOULD play videogames for money.

>>152647149
I set it just like how i set sf, l m h punch on top and l m h kick on bottom. same for kof, just minus the mediums

>>152647807
who cares, it wont make you inherently better and they probably have different setups themselves

>>152648232
there's a guilty gear player on SA who has like 5 entire pages worth of posts in the SFV thread. he doesn't play the game, he doesn't play street fighter period and only posts there to cry about how much SFV sucks and how it's not fair that no one wants to play GG.

I've come to the conclusion that pretty much all GG fans are like that

>>152648232
Well, why is it that you're so offended?

>>152648168
because that's fucking retarded lmao? 99.9% of people that play ANY game don't make money from it

soo...99.9% of people shouldnt play games got it

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Eu lobby. want to try urien but all people so far shit on their pants when they seen him on character select screen and quit before match begins.

Ggs dawg

Balrog is really frustrating online, i lose probably 70% of those rounds to full screen rush punches lol

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>>152648221
but i'm having fun

>>152648232
He didnt say it in a bitter way, he said that if you are not something like a top 32 player you should play another game; can be GG, Tekken, KoF, whatever. He just thinks the game doesn't have enough depth and is not fun, so its only worth playing if you are making money off it. Daigo only carried on playing SF4 for the money as an example. Personally I like SFV and I wish it had a little more depth and was more fun though, then I would play it more often.

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>>152648562
>bronze ibuki from Finland on PC

pretty sure its not Urien's fault

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>>152648168
What I find hilarious is how he says don't play SFV if you aren't a top player yet says to play GG, implying that you'll be a top player at that either.

>>152648221
wow how dare someone like something i dont like

>>152648616
meant for: >>152648168

>>152648579
Yeah ggs. I think I got significantly better at dealing with alex's leap grab/stomp bullshit over the course of those games, thanks for the practice.

>>152648562
NA COMING TO FUCK UP YOUR LOBBY B GET RDY

>>152648649
>What I find hilarious is how he says don't play SFV if you aren't a top player yet says to play GG, implying that you'll be a top player at that either.
But that's clearly not his point. See >>152648616

>>152648639
then why they accept it on first place :^)

>>152648383
>>152648473
That's still a fucktarded thing to say even if it his opinion

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>>152648413
lmaoooo

that's what happens to your brain when you play nothing but dead animu kusoge

your brain just breaks

anyone want to play KI

also is it me or does naotora kinda sucks
fun combos though

>>152648616
But that's something only someone who is extremely bitter would say

Also, source on Daigo only playing SF4 for the money?

>>152648413
>there's a guilty gear player on SA who has like 5 entire pages worth of posts in the SFV thread
link?

>>152648698
Yeah its really not that scary, it just feels like it. I do it until they start jumping out, then I can work in the knee
I wish net code in this game was better though, but long sets get me salty when i cancel into clothesline because I see a hit indicator, only to find out they actually blocked it haha. Have to do a lot more reading and a lot less reacting online i guess

Thanks for the sets though dawg

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This might be a bit of a /g/ish question, but do peripherals need any sort of really basic drivers to be plug 'n' play ready? I "down"graded from 10 to 7 and had a few issue getting drivers, first for my router to access the internet to get the drivers for pretty much everything. I'm thinking this might be why my stick, along with my mouse's scroll wheel and microphone aren't working. Anyone have similar experiences or info?

>>152648958
ps4 sticks need drivers to work on microsoft platform

>>152648905
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3765346&perpage=40

>>152649058
fug
where get?

>>152649085
what stick do you have

>>152648910
Yeah it's pretty shitty that they thought such ass netcode was acceptable in 2016, especially when ggpo exists. I don't even try to react to stuff like foward dashes online.

>>152648649
How retarded are you? He never implied anything about being a top player in GG, what he meant was that SFV is not fun enough to play and invest significant time in if you are not a top player and that other games are more enjoyable. Even if you are a top GG player, you will not make a significant amount of money, GG is WAY too small for that. If you play GG or any other fighting game that isnt the current SF game then you are playing it for your own enjoyment, just for pure fun and/or wanting to be as competitive as possible, with your motivation not coming from possible earnings.

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How do you beat fireball spam?

I kept beating this guy easily until he went in to FIREBALL SPAM mode which didn't do anything but drag the game out and make it annoying as fuck.

What are you sposed to do?

>>152649107
RAP4

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>>152649074
Who's the GG player?

>>152649185
x360ce

though more recent models of it should have xinput support

>>152649176
SFV has the most neutered fireballs of any SF game apart from maybe 3. Almost every character, even ones who have fireballs themselves, have specific moves and/or v-skill to get around the fireballs game.

Do literally anything but walk into them.

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>>152649176

>>152649176
literally just jump fireballs have so much recovery in sf5 and other then that most characters have a million ways around them like sliding under or going through.

>>152649147
what if people actually do find sfv fun tho

>>152648649
He was saying if you switched to another game you would have more fun, and the only reason not to switch would be if you were good enough to compete at the highest level.

I think SFV is alright gameplay wise. Everything else about the game is shit.

>>152649205
His name is Zand

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3765346&userid=39050

>>152649434
Then they probably have poor taste in fighting games. Every other option is better right now.

It's not just SF5. Goobers get triggered by just about everything.

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/forums/topic/6540-why-does-the-fgc-like-stupid-shit-and-what-can-we-do-about-it-my-take-on-scene-growth/&page=1

>>152649176
>How do you beat fireball spam?
>didn't do anything but drag the game out and make it annoying as fuck.


What are you asking? Did you have trouble or not?

Yes it can be tedious, but did you have trouble beating him or were you merely annoyed?

>>152649434
>I think SFV is alright gameplay wise.

I see this and the exact opposite said about this game and will never get a clear answer.

>>152649318
"dont you know that SFV is so bad that you cant possibly enjoy it? theres no way, its just that bad"

thats the answer theyll give you

>>152649498
I went two rounds PERFECT KO on this nigger until the fireball spam, then I had difficulty getting near him.
I still won but it was just a fucking chore. I bet he felt like a God damn champ.

>>152649474
>The problem isn't that some games are more popular than others, but that people like fighting games for all the wrong reasons
lol

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hot diggedy dead

>>152649507
People have different opinions.

SFV is supposed to be a really boiled-down fighter that emphasizes neutral game and has minimal gimmicks and set-play. It also has slightly reduced execution barrier to emphasize decision-making rather than technical skill. It is exactly what they intended...

and it's kind of boring.

>>152649450
I only found like 2 posts from him on the ten first pages. Where's that autistic fit anon?

>>152647061
Does this mean bridget soon?

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>>152649474
The fact that GG will never, ever be popular and there is nothing they can do to change this is proof that there is a god

they will remain triggered until the day they die

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>>152649450
every time i get interested in guilty gear, shit like this just puts me off.

why do goobers get so disagreeable about everything? why not just live and let live?

>>152648413
so he is a GG version of hitbox shill?

>>152649474
>one (1) player of x game is autistic
stop the presses

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>>152649664
Click on the "?" and it will show you all his posts in that thread

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>>152649450
but he's a fightcade player??

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>>152649660
What if someone likes the neutral game and doesn't want to rely on or lose to gimmicks?

It's kind of what makes a fighting game so exploring that instead of slapping on tech is enjoyable to people

SFV sucks lmao

>>152649660
Doesn't that V-trigger stuff ruin that point tho?

>>152649474
>How the hell are you getting an elitist vibe from my post? I'm talking about elevating the people to the level where they can make their own informed decisions

>Games like SFIV of UMVC3 are made with comeback mechanics that are not only mechanics in the game. They are mechanics made to manage ego and attention.

>Day 1 Marvel: "OMG GUYZ I JUST DID A LOT OF DAMAGE WITH MAGIC SERIES! (Wonder what happens if I try to add in a few more hits here... Can I touch of death?)"
>Day 1 Guilty Gear: "What does this even do? I don't have any information on how to combo from this..."
especially lol at this one

>FGC, overall, is having a similar issue: most of their members became pussies who dun wanna learn shit

>>152647149
CD
AB
on pad, like ngcd pad

>>152649893
>SFV
>neutral game
Not with 8 frames and jab AAs.

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anyone doing kof14 trials yet? Robert's 3 and 4 are weird, I just can't connect his fireball into the super

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>>152649893
sfv still has tech it's just that they don't it to be like in sfiv

>>152650131
Shit like this and everything about Jiyuna is why I have no interest involving myself with GG

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>>152650194
i love footsies based characters

>>152649474
That thread is a classic

GG players are mentally ill

>>152649318
Some people will find anything fun, see: Hearthstone, LoL, Overwatch; that's not a very compelling argument. If you find SFV to be fun then keep playing it, fun is what matters, so long as more people play fighting games I'm happy. It's just his opinion that it's not fun, and I certainly feel like people are more vocal about SFV not being fun compared other games simply because if you play literally any other game its because you are having fun, SFV is in a way the default choice for fighting games this generation. I would introduce any new fighting game player to SF first even though I'm a goober.

>>152649474
Norvil is particularly retarded, he is the prime example of the goober boogeyman. One of the most annoying pieces of shit in the community. There are people who are salty about their games popularity in other communities, for example Quake players who hate CS because they call it a baby game and will do anything to get people from playing CS to play their sadlydead game.

>But the vast majority of people who "love mahvel" don't understand any of that stuff. Their understanding of the game is shallow, which means that their relationship with the game is shallow. In fact, their relationship with the game is so lacking that a lot of them would rather watch it than play it.

The most popular game will always go by this trend, if GG was the main game and was pulling current SFV numbers of players then you would have the same situation as this. Looking at other games, many people watch ecelebs farm creeps for 45 minutes in LoL instead of playing the game themselves. Just how super bronze players spend more time watching fgc streams and typing "hype footsies!!, epic read!!" in twitch chat instead of playing the game and getting better.

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>>152650167
you can beat light aa and 8f doesn't remove neutral it just makes it hard/impossible to whiff punish faster stuff but if you look at the framedata you can see that heavy buttons have a lot of recovery for a reason the game is built around 8f

i mean you literally have 2 players playing neutral and here you are using meme arrows in the face of hard evidence

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I want SFV to die so people can find the next meme game to tear to shred and constantly shit on people over. Literally no one talking about this game has nothing of worth to say it's either benign bullshit or a flurry of some of the worst shitpost I have every had the misfortune of reading in this general. It's the first time I've ever considered filtering something in this shithole.

If you call me a capcuck or a goober or a fan of any stupid other franchise you want to champion or shit on you are the definition of a subhumans. /fgg/ has made me damn near despise this genre

>>152650457
>5 jumps in 10 seconds
Yeah okay. I don't remember seeing this in SF4.

>>152650537
>/fgg/ has made me damn near despise this genre
then leave

>>152649893
As I said, people have different opinions. Obviously too much setplay is also boring, and too much execution gets you a game where both players are fighting the game more than each other. I think SFV is too far in the other direction and it results in really stale feeling gameplay. If the DLC characters so far are any indicator, the game will slowly become a more interesting clusterfuck. Every DLC character is more fun than the core cast.

>>152650537
If SFV dies then it's Smash that's taking up the mantle

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>>152650674
i'm okay with this. i don't even play fighting games anymore and this would probably be hilarious anyway.

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>>152650543
Yeah because SF4 had 10 jumps in 5 seconds

>>152650427
>people are more vocal about SFV not being fun compared other games
Because fuck all people play those games, so there is fuck all who look into or know a lot

If someone finds anything out about SFV it gets front page on every fgc site good or bad. You find something out about GG it might come up in a discord.

Plus people do try other games, at the launch of any new one people hype it up, but most don't stick and go back to street fighter. The reason SF is default is cause it's the game most people like

>>152650674
Not really. It'll go back to the old times of games being separated except it'll be real fighting games who have less recognition. Doesn't matter to me.

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>Kof goes live on PSN randomly at 11:00am Pst instead of midnight

The Fuck? What the actual fuck?

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>>152648168
nobody is offended, only anime players are autistic enough to think people only like SF 'cause its popular or play for the money then top it off with beggartry.

more people would probably play GG if people like biscuits weren't significant figures in the anime community. he speaks as good as Arturo dresses himself. anime players should learn social discernment from kike z. he knows how to speak like a fighting game snob and not sound like a sperglord, he also isn't a shitter at fighting games which is a plus.

>>152650829
#BurnToFight

>>152650597
Go fuck yourself

>>152650743
Show me a video of high level tournament play of SF4 where both players hop like it's super mario.

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>>152650194
fighting game stinks

>>152650841
But dont people unironically like Biscuits because Muh YO BISCUITS ON THE MIC and general coonery he does?

>>152650904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvRcyRqRGqE

>>152650829
alot of multiplayer games release at the same time across Earth now, so everyone can play together simultaneously

>>152647149
i do what's in the pic. mainly because some other anime games i play use a similar layout of those 4 buttons. like uniel, blazblue, and guilty gear (with d on the 3rd button in the bottom row). so it's easy to get accustomed to. weird thing is, i'm primarily a tekken player, so you'd think the square layout would make more sense. but i don't like it.

Any advice on the Karin/FANG matchup from Karin's point of view?

I think I just don't know the matchup but I get completely and utterly destroyed. It's not the obvious trap of "changing gameplan when you get poisoned". I know that's what usually gets people fucked. But, it's not even that. It's just like, a wall of frametraps and sideswitches. Everytime I try to do anything another attack comes out and catches me. So I just have to block. Then he throws me. Even if I tech it, the point is he's completely on the offensive and I'm just defending and taking chip damage until I lose.

So yeah, I suspect I'd have this problem with every character because I don't know FANG at all. Any advice on learning him/fighting him? Holes to take advantage of. Anything, really.

>>152650932
>yun mirror in vanilla AE
You're basically admitting that SF5 is broken shit right now.

>>152650919
I don't mind him when he commentates because I think he's funny but he really doesn't fit as a figurehead.

>Tekken 7 plays good AND looks good AND is coming to PC

What's gonna go wrong guys? There has to be a catch.

>>152651043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AdIzsah4QA

>>152651119
So did people already give up on kof taking over?

>>152651043
Only gonna involve myself enough to post the first video I found searching for seth and/or rufus gameplay

>>152650543
that webm was to show you that you can beat light aa, this is exactly why people only reply to goobers with kermits you're all so delusional that it's not worth replying to

>>152651119
>a catch
Every character plays like r mika.

You thought SFV had homogenized playstyles? Wait till you play Tekken lmao

>>152651119
I'll probably give Tekken a serious try for the first time. It really does look impressive.

My only gripe with Tekken is that the move list has like 200 moves.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZMU4wRCcNA

>runs 4K on a single 1080

Excellent PC port confirmed. I guess the fact that arcades are just PC's helped a ton with the optimization.

>>152650674
It would be Smash solely because it would be head lining evo at that point and smash fans would evolve to the next level

>>152651190
Lol its late don't shame me
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9ps1w1CFlhY

>>152651204
it's just a meme.

>>152650194
>>152650296
>>152650406
>>152650905
>>152651160
Look man I know you can't stand to see people make actual discussion instead of shitposting with you but just stop.

>>152651198
What?
I don't think you play tekken

>>152649893
What if someone finds the neutral game in SFV boring? Just because a game tries to be "neutral focused" doesnt mean that the neutral will automatically be fun. I'm sure that most people here do not find Samsho to be incredibly fun, despite it being the prime example of a neutral based game. Some enjoy the whiff punish nature of 3S neutral, some like the wackyness of Marvel neutral.

>>152650919
But people unironically like modern Excellent Adventures being a forced piece of shit, eating it up and dickriding Mike Ross and Gooteks. At least Biscuits is himself 100% of the time.

>>152650315
Jiyuna likes to shit on SF not because he is shilling anime but because he just finds it fun to take the piss and speaks his mind. Most GG players I know have no hate towards Capcom at all, they just dont give a shit about them.

>>152651204
170 of which you don't need to know to start playing the game and only become really valuable when you understand their place in the character and in which situations they can be used given the experience you accumulate from continuously playing that character.

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>>152651206
>that Lili

>>152651250
I played tekken revolution when it came out for consoles. King had like 193 moves iirc.

>GG review
>Half the review is shitting on SF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG1q66h3RvQ

>>152651204
Only 10 to 15ish are used for every character

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>>152651043
Why can't we have Lost Soul represent us? He's godlike at the game, plays best girl (and some Jack-O on the side to balance the based-ness) and is the chillest nigga on the planet. I've never seen him salty.

>>152651304
i'd bet literally half of those are his throws and throw extensions.

>>152651119
The netcode, ever watched the arcade matches? Every now and again the game pauses for a second because of desync. The cabs playing are in the same city or area.

I changed my stick from one usb port to the one right next to it and now my pc doesn't recognize it anymore, nor the previous port or the new one, what the fuck???


Now I'm reading that I have to buy a new PCI for new usb ports or what ever the fuck???? it worked yesterday and now I have to buy some new shit for it?


playstation SF arcade stick, using it in windows 10

>>152651304
And you won't being seeing most of them used. Those include grabs, grab extensions, parries, string extensions.

People overblow it.

>>152651159
At the end of the day KoF is $60 and only on PS4 with mediocre graphics and bad art direction to boot. The game is good but it's not taking over anything.

>>152651146
Watching sf4 footage after months of sfv is like everything is going fast forward.

>>152651282
>What if someone finds the neutral game in SFV boring
Then they can play other games, SF players aren't the ones saying you must play it if you aren't top 32 in GG

Please stop talking about Shit Flinger V

>>152651323
B A E
A
E

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>>152651328
GG players have a serious inferiority complex. Do they not understand that putting down another community won't get them players?

Who the fuck is going to play a game when the guy supporting the game spends 80% of his time shitting on the game he dislikes?

Fucking Christ man. If these faggots want people to play Xrd, they should show why Xrd is fun. It's not even fun making fun of them anymore. Quite a few of them seem seriously mentally ill.

>>152651204
>My only gripe with Tekken is that the move list has like 200 moves.

That's one of two reasons I haven't learned Ramlethal in GG. She looks fun, but her movelist is silly.

Also she feels really awkward to play sometimes. S and HS feel agonizingly slow when deployed.

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>catch some free time at work
>read the previous thread
>all those people stressing over their LP on SFV
>tfw got to 3k within a couple days of playing randomly
>tfw regularly shit on Ultra Gold/Platinum players in lobbies
>tfw I don't understand why people care about points so much
Points are just an indication of grind and relative ability. I don't think I'd be able to reach Platinum, ever, probably Super Gold at best, but it doesn't mean they are some kind of crazy good players, they are just people who can grind it, and some people are actually good to a certain point.

People in Ultra Bronze who happen to be good are simply people at the begining of their grind. A beginner, like a proper beginner, shouldn't be able to get out of Bronze. Not because Ultra Bronze players are good, but because even in Bronze, people have basic awareness. However, once they start learning, Gold is nothing but a simple step.

>>152651146
>two divekick characters
>using jump fireballs in neutral
>very few jump ins, and they get AA'ed too
>still less jumping than in 5

>>152650131
But GG has gatling and easy cancels, so what the fuck is that guy talking about.

For a baby level player getting some combos done in GG is so much easier than in something like SF, for example.

>>152647278
>I mean if i'm used to the whole 1234 thing from Tekken
American Tekken Notations were a mistake.

>>152651482
The guy also will dickride VF. He likes the new Duke Nukem and hates MGR. He can be entertaining but fuck he can be retarded.

>>152648616
>Daigo playing SF4 for money
This is not entirely true. Initially he kept playing because of the arcade ranking system.

>>152651490
Back in 1.0 SIgn they were quite fast but they overall in 1.1 nerfed her

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>>152651323
kawaii

Why don't Tekken annotations just use left-kick (LK) right-kick RK and LP and RP? Surely that's better than 1232134214512312?

>>152651482
Chill, it's a review, a meme one at that, of course he's gonna jab at SF5 for having a shit launch and problems it shouldn't have.

>>152651567
it's a bit easier to verbalize than saying "6 arr pee" or some shit. it also allows some easier/more clear combo notation, but only in specific cases.

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What a time to be alive.

In case you're noticing, yes. It's the same poster that wrote that notorious screen-post.

>>152651598
1.0 Ram was overpowered. 1.1 was shit. I think she's alright in 1.3 now.

>>152651620
saying that in real time sounds like a pain. number notations are easier since Tekken doesnt really use weird motions but instead buttons are mostly button presses.

>>152651328
damn thats some grade A cringe. i don't even factor in what fighting games I do or don't play, this guy just thinks he's a genius and you can tell

>lvl 50 player fights me
>they pick fulgore
>absolutely body them
>i dont even play this game
>salty switch to jago (seems like a trend)
>they just jump nonstop trying to go for zero pizza cutter cross up/pressure
>just anti airing and killing them with combos
>switch to thunder
>same strat with more dp
>finally counter the dp follow up and get a free combo
>player has disconnected

>>152651718
dude what

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>>152651718
Not this mentally tarded tranny again. NeoFag is a cesspool of SJW retardation that goes more dumber by the day as they ban anyone daring to poke holes in their idiotic agenda.

>>152650674
>actually community orientated
>thriving meta with new stuff still disocvered, just technical enough to be challenging but easy at the start
>more old FGC than marvel and sf these days
>always some drama or new meme to keep streamboars entertained
Smash is the future.

>>152651718
damn... i guess all tekken players are like that huh... wow

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>>152651718
You owe me some new sides

feminism is why gg isnt successful

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>>152651829
>even gg players get bullied by smash children

>>152650985
Except the game launches two days later in japan and three days later in Europe.

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>>152651119
The catch was the 2 years of waiting we home users have to endure while watching arcade monsters.

>>152651718
>power stone
>2d
Huh?

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Remember to preorder Tekken 7 and One Piece Burning Blood on PC coming September 2nd

>>152651952
pretty much this.

>>152651972
i hate paying $60 for a game though.

if i buy tekken like 3 months later, will it be too late?

does tekken fade away after a month like anime games?

>>152652007
considering tag 2, the worst selling tekken game, never really died even offline, no.

>>152651328
>comparing to the supposed best fighting game in the world is not valid for a review
>>152651380
Are all your usb slots the same usb version? I know from my laptops and that the driver has to install on every plug seperately.

>>152652007
People are still saying Tag 2 is alive. You will be fine.

>>152651620
They do everywhere but in america.
>>152651680
Forming the thought is part of verbalizing and the american tekken notation does the biggest work at confusing new and other fighting game players.

>>152652007
Tekken games don't die off. Pretty sure you can still find matches in Tekken 6. Tekken games don't really get hit by the same migration 2D fighting games do whenever a new game in the genre hits.

Is it even worth it to watch my own replays if I lose like half my matches?

>>152652007
ttt2 still has a player base and a bit of an offline scene 3 years later.

>>152651907
Did Xrd GFs really only get 5k viewers at CEO including Meleekids waiting for their Top 8?

>>152652224
Take this to /pol/

>>152652007
Tekken is probably the fighting game with the longest legs.

>>152652269
Learn what you did wrong

>>152652269
You're supposed to watch especially matches where you lose to see what went wrong and what you could have done.

>>152652269
yes
look at what you did wrong and how you could improve on it

please stop making fun of the gg community

>>152651354
Because he doesn't stream or make videos. You need to be an entertainer to be the face of the community. Just how Juicebox is one of the faces of American KoF.

>>152651418
Yes exactly, thats what I was saying in my post. To clarify; Biscuits never said you must play GG, he mentioned being a top 32 player because SFV is the default game and that there people do not look into other games because they are not seen as "relevant". People who play the most popular game find it harder to come to terms with the fact that they might not be having as much fun as they would perhaps like to, simply because there are so many players who seem to enjoy the game, so it must be good and the most popular for a reason right? This is not an issue with other games because they are the niche choice in an already niche genre. There is no reason to play GG, BlazBlue, Tekken and putting up with the small playerbase unless you are having fun. Just how people can actually eat up stuff like Heathstone esports just because it has a backed professional scene, some people play SF just because its the most "relevant" game and "the only one that matters". It's a perfectly understandable point of view, I was a little worried of picking up another game back in SF4 days.

>>152651482
I agree Norvil is a massive faggot but I think the shitting on SF comes from the fact that SF is the default game.This is a problem in most communities though; go on fightcade and 3S players will be shitting on SFV constantly, theres even a guy who goes by "sfvsucks". Most of the people who want people to carry on playing SF4 will just endlessly shit on SFV instead of explaining why SF4 is fun I agree that it's better to show why people should play your game by talking about it, instead of other games.

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>>152652238
HEALTHY NOT FAT

Jesus fucking christ, what happened with Ibukis battleoutfit?

>>152652427
This is definitely my favorite meme that people just aren't trying other games and that's why they don't play them

>>152651952
Wrong, the catch is no crossplay

>>152652269
Yes watching replays is the most valuable when you lose. It hurts a lot but do it and learn from it.

>>152652238
london?

>>152652491
she cut her hair

>>152652427
>people do not look into other games
That's fucking wrong though. Any time a new game is releasing everyone here and on other sites gets excited. Most dedicated fighting game players will have tried other fighting games

You've made the stupid assumption that the most popular thing isn't what people like, SF or Heathstone or whatever are big for a reason and it isn't just money cause people know they have no chance of getting that money.

People do try other games, most like SF more which is why it remains the most popular

>>152652573
6 months. There is still a possibility. Hell people still think KoF will have it.

>>152652060
mm I guess not

>>152652147
i agree. i prefer it the universal way, especially considering even other 3d games use the numpad notation, but there are some small benefits to the american notation.

>>152652573
Actually, the fact that Murray said explicitly that they're waiting for Sony to approve Xbone-PS4 play more or less confirms that crossplay is heavily being considered and is probably being done between PC-PS4 like Rocket League.

>>152652629
>sf
>big
A big sperm in a puddle of piss, but nothing compared to Smash. EVO is only alive because of Nintendo games.

>>152652427
The only people who don't try other fighters are casuals who play through arcade mode once or twice in that's it.

I have literally never met anyone in my locals or any big tourneys I've gone to that literally only played SF.

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>>152651418
>SF players aren't the ones saying you must play it if you aren't top 32 in GG
SF fans are only the ones shittalking every game in the genre that isn't capcoms newest game. They have been doing this since the 90s.

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>>152652427
sf wouldn't be the default game if other games were good, you have niche games (anime mashers, 3D games) and party games (KI, smash, marvel, skullgirls) and sf is the middle ground

this the objective truth, people don't want to play fighting games and the ones who do will pick sf or a party game

>>152652814
Nah mate the ones staying only on sf are the sfags.

Juri's Battle Costume is so much better than her default. It has that bit of her SFIV outfit nostalgia hit while still being true to her Taekwondo inspiration.

Too bad I can't buy Premium Costumes with Fight Money. I'm not going to give them money for a costume, especially considering what they did to this game.

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>>152652820
You don't even hear SF players anymore it's all shitting on SFV.

>>152652772
stop
>>152652817
no

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feels good to beat neighbor

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Is this the zika virus?

>>152653036
guile confirmed braindead

>>152653027
>lvl 500

Why does the pc SFV slightly freeze every 15 seconds. It was fine until the guile patch.

https://twitter.com/TSSAtma/status/767906702645747712

Apparently all characters are faster in the day 1 patch for kof xiv

sounds good

>>152653068
Round 1 mod.

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>>152653107
>no one here is shilling kof

>>152653107
did they release a patch to fix the graphics yet

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success breeds jealousy

>>152653148

No one cares about KoF anymore anon.

>>152653148
dumb frog poster

>>152653148
cross a busy road, frogger

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Anyone wanna play doa 5 on ps3 or xbone?

>>152652983
Someone who is a fan of something will be the loudest to critic.
Of course this doesn't apply to paid drones.

>>152653245
ill play if you give me honoka for ps3. id rather play nyo but vs helena is pointless

I'm going to buy a fucking battle costume and I'm going to roll for it.

0-2 Ken
3-5 R.Mika
7-8 Birdie
9 - Ibuki

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>>152653245
Why did you buy an Xbone if you're a DoA fan? The community is on PS4. Why not just get a PS4 used for like $200 if you can't find matches on PS3?

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>>152653179
ikr

>>152653391
lmao

>>152653179
THAT SHIT AIN'T SALES
THAT AIN'T MONEY NIGGA
WHERE ARE THE SALES
NO OF THESE SHITS WILL EVER BEAT AN NRS GAME
I CAN'T WAIT FOR THOSE INJUSTICE 2 SALES THEY'RE GOING TO BE SO FUCKING GOOD

kof xiv won

>>152653406
>doa
>community
I am pretty sure the community is in basements creating a botech armor out of their cum.

>>152653509
kusoge mechanics

>>152653179
Why did Xrd go down?

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>WAAAAAH WHY ARE PEOPLE STUPID AND WHY DO THEY PLAY SFV THEY SHOULD PLAY MY KUSOJ INSTEAD
>ask for games in half the games that are not SFV every day
>*crickets*

Ummmmmm..................

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>>152653107
>KOF13
>24f hop/33f jump

>KOF14
>31f hop/38f jump

Remember when kof cocksuckers like JohnXuandou and a few anons said KOF14 jumps were *exactly* the same as in 13 and that the game wasn't sluggish at all?

Holy fuck I am going to enjoy watching this game flop

>>152653357
I think honoka might be free for core fighters right now.

>>152653406
I got an xbone for ki and I would have gotten it for tomb raider had I known it was gonna be exclusive for a year at the time as well. I got a second xbone when they announced a tomb raider bundle.

>>152653417
>retail in 2016
lmao
>>152653456
sfv sold on par with capcom's plan, they knew the game wasn't finished and wouldn't appeal to casuals wait for ssfv ultimate arcade edition 2017 for casual dosh
>>152653586
gg players are too busy shitposting about other games, please excuse them

>>152653590
because nobody likes you?

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>>152653606
Did you miss the rest of the post?? They made everyone faster in the day one patch.

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>>152653590
>Italian

>it's another fighting game players shit on their fellow fighting game players
no wonder this community is dying

>>152653509
That stuff can be disabled right?

>>152653586
It's just 50 people.

>>152653586
Isn't revelator the new version of the game? I thought it sold like shit which means there are overall less players than there were in sign.

>>152653692
episode

>>152653736
Don't think so, or at least people didn't disable it in Injustice even if they could.

>>152653736
yeah, don't get hit into it

>>152653509

She, kof is here again. >>152653523

>>152653692
I hate hate hate everyone in these threads so fucking much. I hate all of you so much. I want you all to have bad lives and have bad things happen to you because you're bad people

>>152653681
And where did I deny that?

I'm talking about the braindead fanboys who were vehemently denying the game was sluggish for literally the entire past year

Kof14 could be patched into being the best Fg in the world and I still would not buy it and would still shit talk the game everywhere I go just so cocksucker delusional kof fans have nobody to play with

>>152653658
>defending capcom so hard
What for?

>>152653713
wonder woman? more like wonder if it's a man or a woman haha gotem

>>152653627
i guess i can do a ft10 or something. whats psn

>load doa5 after months
>leifang available
>practice stuff
>switch to trials to refresh execution
>free roster switched up at midnight

>>152653658
>sfv sold on par with capcom's plan
no it didn't

pathetic neogaf sales apologist

I swear to fucking god. Fuck Ryu. Dumbest fucking braindead character. 2k or 6k doesn't matter it's the same shit every time.

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>>152653816
Typical anonyderp desu senpai

>>152653509
Did they actually license that movie preroll for this game? Is that the actual Let's all go to the lobby or is that a recreation

>>152653816
>Kof14 could be patched into being the best Fg in the world and I still would not buy it and would still shit talk the game everywhere I go just so cocksucker delusional kof fans have nobody to play with

These are the type of people who post in these threads. Wow.

>>152651159

the netcode is fucking terrible like lmao

seeing snk apologists in stream is so sad to watch

>it's not that bad guys! it's just the servers!!! it's gonna be patched!

>>152653927
HBR and a handful of other kof fans spent all of 2016 up till now vehemently defending 14 and saying everyone who called the game sluggish was wrong/trolling

Now the proof comes out that the game was in fact considerably slower than 13 and that is only changing now with the day 1 patch

Braindead fanboys like that don't deserve a community.

>>152653826
capcom made many dumb decisions with sfv but valid criticism is lost in the middle of white noise shitposting from goobers, like people who ask for arcade mode or cry about 8f when the lobbies are barely functional and matchmaking is ass
>>152653864
according to their annual report it did, capcom did not expect the game to sell 4m in the first year they knew that the game was early access

>>152653834
Luvcheez.

>>152652496
>>152652629
People can try games and give up for the same reasons as I stated. They might not stick with it or think its worth putting time into a game like Melty Blood where you need to look for players in a discord and post your IP. SF is the biggest game for a reason, it has the biggest appeal. Other genres are more popular because they also have a wider appeal. It's not just the name that makes SF the biggest game, its gameplay is the easiest to appreciate on a basic level. SF in many ways defines the genre. Something like GG or Melty Blood does not define the genre, they are niche examples. I never stated that SF is only popular because people do not try other games, however I do think that this is a mentality that certainly does exist to a certain extent.

>>152652838
I can easily rephrase this to: "MOBAs wouldn't be the most popular genre if other genres were good, you have you have niche games (Street Fighter, RTS, Arena Shooters) and party games (TF2, Smash, Dark Souls PvP) and MOBAS are the middle ground"

Don't try and state that something is good just because its happens to be the most popular game. If fighting games are so good then why are they not more popular? If fighting games are so much better than smash then why did so called "party games" like Melee and Smash4 combined have slightly more entrants than SFV? SF4 was the default game and now that SFV is out most people I talk to say SF4 was not good despite being avid players when it was the main game. If you dont like Anime, KI or 3D games then don't bother with them, they do not pose a threat to SF in the slightest. Its ridiculous to state it is the "objective" truth that SF being more popular means it is superior. If you are going by that logic then a CSGO, LoL or Dota2 player would blow you the fuck out.

Just have fun with your fighting games, thats all that matters guys.

>>152654051

They expected it to sell 2.5mil in its first year, it won't reach that.

>>152654051
Fucking goobers man, holy shit, they can't give us a break with their crying on the unresponsive controls of the game. IT'S CALLED MAKING READS OKAY?! Oh Lord I hate every single one of them.

>>152654051
https://www.destructoid.com/street-fighter-v-sales-fall-short-of-capcom-s-expectation-360051.phtml

>netcode and lobbies are more important than 8f on inputlag
based onlineboar

When SFV was revealed everyone noticed the slower walkspeeds and much slower
hit/blockstun. Capcom fans immediately pointed it out and many asked for the game to be sped up.

When KOF14 was revealed KOF fans instead chose to damage control extremely hard and call anyone who said the game looked slower than past KOFs a troll.

Just further proof that kusoge players are mentally ill and should never be taken seriously

>king of dinosaurs got buffed

Burning in the inside

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>>152654117
what is she thinking about?

I HATE FIGHTING GAMES

>>152654206
hopefully getting fucking banned

>>152654183
This strawman tho

>>152654135
You can now qualify for Capcup through online, so online play is relevant. According to Capcom themselves their logic on giving the game 8f of input delay was to make online play better. They sacrificed most players expectations of local play in order to accommodate to the online players. Face it, SF is an online based game, you can't talk shit about "onlineboars" in this game.

>>152654183
SF has just as many delusional fanboys. See >>152654051
>>152653658

>>152654296
t. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNIHD-Fleu4

>>152654086
sent

I want Snkucks to leave

Sfv is shit why the fuck are you rat humans still talking about it?

>>152654398
everything else is shitter-er

>>152654398
cause capcucks are incapable of talking about or playing anything that isn't the most recent sleep fighter game, regardless of how awful it is

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>>152654398

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Anyone melty, kof 2002/UM, USF4 or even XRD PC

>>152654135
>>netcode and lobbies are more important than 8f on inputlag
Average player doesn't even fucking notice 8f.
Most fucking pros didn't say shit about it until it became the trendy thing to blame.

If a game wants to sell millions it has to sell to those dirty, filthy, casuals.

>>152654093
>"MOBAs wouldn't be the most popular genre if other genres were good, you have you have niche games (Street Fighter, RTS, Arena Shooters) and party games (TF2, Smash, Dark Souls PvP) and MOBAS are the middle ground"

and this would be absolutely true, stop excusing game developers who keep making the same games and don't try to innovate or fix design issues they had in their games since the 90s

any fighting game could be as popular as lol if it had good game design and mainstream appeal, no fighting game is trying to answer "why people don't want to play fighting games?" and it's fine but then you don't get to complain about popularity
>>152654123
8f in sfiv would be horrible, sfv is built around 8f it's a design decision you might like it or not but my point is that it's not a bug or technical issue they should fix
>>152654135
you're right I read year as in 2016 but it's fiscal year ending in march 2016 my bad

>>152654325
SFV was built from the ground up attempting to simulate local play online, which is why they went with their rollback netcode and the 8f of lag. Linking this video does not make any sense. The fact that you can qualify for Capcup through online means that Capcom themselves consider online play as relevant as local play. Those online spots could go to well known players instead of a possible literal who could qualify via online. Capcom also aimed for a much bigger audience this time, they way you achieve that is by focusing on online play.

I only play the most obscure fighters. I don't waste my time with mainstream trash like Jab Fighter 5 lol right guys? btw I need to let everyone know in every thread how superior I am for playing games OTHER than capcuck shit. remember 8f haha right guys?

>>152653752
PC Xrd sold more than Rev ps3+ps4.

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>>152654323
how is acknowledging the flaws of the game I play and criticizing capcom making me a delusional fanboy?
matter of fact I never see gg/kof players criticize snk/arcsys despite the flaws in their games

>>152654635
Well they fucking failed, with their one man netcode and all.

Stop
Talking
About
Shit
Fighter
V

>>152654561
>Average player doesn't even fucking notice 8f.
so? lmao? your average player doesn't play a fighting game further than the story mode

>>152654596
>>152654635
then it's probably the worst designed fighting game ever
literally crippling people just so the lowest common denominator can compete in online lag
and those people don't even qualify for the cup, they only win a spot at another regional, offline qualifier where they're going to get btfo for being the onlineboars that they are


fucking embarrassing posts

I can't people people are actually defending this, especially when capcom usa came out and said it was not a design decision at all

Tekken 7 please cum soon all over me.

>>152654842
>online is bad
lmao get a modern gaming router already to send data packages like the pros

>>152654842
>then it's probably the worst designed fighting game ever
then it's probably the worst opinion on fighting games ever

there is enough room in sfv to whiff punish and react to stuff while still rewarding reads and conditioning, capcom usa has nothing to say on design decisions they can't even get the release dates for characters right meanwhile framedata and woshige's interview shows that it's totally intentional

>>152654974
>there is enough room in sfv to whiff punish and react to stuff while still rewarding reads and conditioning
And that's why Nash is top tier.

>>152654974
what's your cfn I want to see you back your big talk up

>>152654842
>so? lmao? your average player doesn't play a fighting game further than the story mode
So. As long as they buy the game that's a sale.
Sales are what matter.

The fucking few thousand tournament players are minor fucking detail. Thousands of sales is fucking nothing and only way they matter is additional free pr for the game.

>>152654872
stop forcing this meme

>>152655039
>Sales are what matter.
based shill retard

>>152654635

????

He linked that because it's an online player getting fucking bopped. The implication being that being good online translates to dogshit offline.

>>152655018
nash's dash is pretty retarded and he's safe on everything hopefully he gets nerfed next patch
>>152655032
not an argument

>>152654206
Breast reduction surgery

>>152655134
>not an argument
oh so you're that no zoning guy who doesn't even play sfv, or any other fighting game for that matter, gotcha

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>>152655156

holy fuck why is skullgirls so slow why is it so hard to see what's happening and where is the neutral

>>152655195
Say it with me

"Kusoge"

>>152655195
>>152392504

>>152655125
Do you think Capcom makes Street Fighters out of good will?
Actually, they do. But there still are people, higher up, at Capcom who want money and if money doesn't hit the table, no more wasting time on Street Fighter.

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>>152655156

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>>152655113
FUCK YOU

>>152655193
Remember when Paul wasn't a joke character?
>>152655195
It's all but slow. YOu may get used to seeing stuff if yu play more, neutral is every single movement you see.

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Hope T7 goes the route of Tag 2 and gives different covers based on different regions. When i got TTT2 i got Jin and Hei for Murrican but since i am in Italy now they could have Cladio or someo other Euro.

>>152655326
>let's defend capcom because they make good sales (except not really) and not good games
>that sounds like a fucking amazing plan

>>152655195
>Neutral

It's an anime fg dude

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>>152655458
give best girls again please.

>>152655432
Paul was always goofy as shit.

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>>152655191
oh so you're (boogeyman*) who doesn't even play sfv or any fighting game for that matter, gotcha

* = replace boogeyman with skullgirls shill/discord/kappa/neofag//v/