World of Warships Admiralty /wowsg/

dukeker has cruiser armor, beware

scharnhost has cruiser weapons, beware

bong CA will be CL, REJOICE!

>>152590819
I just bought dunkek

I dont care what she has, she's CUTE

>>152590819
her gun's honestly arern't as bad as I thought they would be. decently accurate. to bad 13mm is a meme caliber and can't do shit.

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>>152590636
https://discord.gg/FhvrzjR

/wowsg/ general Discord

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Warspite is so elephant!

>>152590870
actualy shes okay when played like a cruiser

same with scharnhost. except most German BBs have excellent armor and can't get penned.

and then there's the
>overpen on citadels
mechanic that maybe dukekerer might abuse

>>152591104
Is this where shitposting belongs now?

>>152591180
did any /wowsg/ get Warspite in the game that shall not be named?

>>152591246
>overpen on citadels mechanic
A boogeyman made up by butthurt baBBies who are mad their ships aren't click2win.

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>100mm dp guns on kekker
>127mm dp on most burger boats
>the utterly accurate and stabilized 128mm on german BBs
>they all have ranges under 7km and accuracy that would make them miss a battleship on the 5km mark
think about this for a minute

>>152590543
I still need more games in her, but she's very finicky. I feel like her damage output is a bit lacking. Scharn can mitigate her weaknesses by getting up close, but Dunk really can't.

The ship is agile enough to juke BB shots if you're aware enough, but what is killing me is how fragile she is to cruiser guns and how flammable she is. She has a lot of superstructure and a lot of deck space. HE will hit and do damage almost all the time, AP salvoes will do 4-digit damage. Tier 8 games will see you being eaten up by Hippers and Atagos.

>>152591335
With the memedal, yes.

>>152591345
honestly tho I see alote of BBs doing overpen damage that's absurdly high for overpen

the only conclusion I could take is that they did overpen on the citadel hitbox

>>152591554
but you can't OHKO them with ap?

are you using rudder shift time or damage control?

the way you speak of it makes it sounds a lot like a regular cruiser play. how agile it is compared to atagoy?

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>56% wr
Has Luger hit his skill plateau?

>>152592296
Yea pretty much.

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Breddy gud bode :DDD

Decent mobility, decent accuracy, good penetration, sexually arousing quadruple turrets, barbette 2 has motivational words. Nice bote.

>>152591335
What?

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>>152593186
also this is some ebin exp

Anyone got the stats for the Dunkerque?

Also how does it perform and as i am a poor EU player who gets things last when will the EU get it?

>>152593676
do you yuropoors not have access to the WG wiki?

>>152591945
I have yet to get citpenned, I think.

I am using rudder shift time, as I do in all my BBs and CAs.

I don't have an Atago, so I can't compare. But her rudder shift is like Scharn's, and her turning radius is better than Scharn's. The numbers don't really compare to cruiser numbers, but the combination of speed, fast (for BB) rudder, and decent turning radius makes her feel pretty easy to handle.

You can't play her like a cruiser, though. Her guns are surprisingly punchy at times, and she doesn't have the ROF to really allow for for cruiser (or uptiered Scharn)-like play.

Haven't quite figured out how to use her yet, quite honestly.

>>152594108
Normally the WG wiki is utter shite and is missing half the stats desu. I do not waste my time on it.

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>>152593676
With EM, Aim Systems Mod 1, and the rudder shift time mod.

It really is to bad dunkek is so mediocre. they clearly spent a fuckload of time modeling her. the shiny bits on her barrel tips are beutiful

>>152594936
Spot the shitter

>>152594834
>Roger Jackin' It

:^)

>>152594834
Thanks.

I got Warspite and Scharn so finding a problem on trying to pick this one up.

Even Bayern is better than Warspite and they have the big guns so they may just demolish Dunk.

>>152595072
post ur stats kid

WHY THE FUCK IS THE NATIONAL FLAGS ALL FUCKED UP IN THE MOD PACK!?!?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

RUSSIAN SHITTER NAVY FLAG DOESNT BELONG ON ARIZONA AND NEITHER DOES TAIWAN FLAG ON IOWA

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Nth for Dunk is not a meme.

Infinityth for Supertesters and Community Contributors are Godlike beings; the only humans that have risen to holy perfection for perfectly being completely wrong with any opinions they give.

Nth for the continued failure of supertesters so we get more ships this solid and this cheap.

>>152594936
>>152595442
I just citpenned a somewhat angled New Mexico from 15km with guns smaller than Kongo's

She's a gud, capable bote.

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>>152597171

>>152597034
What range are you playing her at?

>>152597063
Her guns are remarkably punchy. It was a nice surprise.

>>152597034
>Supertesters not knowing shit.

The sky is blue and water is wet.

>>152597063
Would you say you have to be an above average player to be good in her?

Cit hit an angled NM, not bad must have some good AP pen then.

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>>152597738
She's got weak armor, but she's zippy, decently accurate, and has a good punch. I'd say she's not idiot proof, but if you're a remotely decent player you should have a good time with her.

Her armor isn't so awful that something can simply look at you and you burst into treats, but certainly if you show too much side like some French whore, she's gonna have a bad time. As long as you stay properly angled against incoming fire, which should be easy since your entire main battery is forward, she's plenty enough durable. Still, you dont want to just point you bow at the enemy and creep towards them. She's not that durable. It's better to stay mobile like a cruiser in that regard.

>>152591226
>Tashkent
>great mobility
???

How long do you have to wait in queue in with the Dun-KEK anyway?

With everyone grinding away at the German BBs it certainly isn't instant.

>>152598827
Speed also counts as mobility??

>>152598827
>Tashkent
>bad mobility
u r bad

>>152599058
Pretty much instaqueue. The German BB hype is dying down a bit, and tier 6 always has a healthy player population.

>>152599064
Even VMF DDs can't outrun planes, you meme loving fuck.

>tfw you fall asleep at the wheel and a random torpedo hits your destroyer at the start of the match so you just let your ship flood out of shame

Its time to end it

>>152599504
But some can outrun plane torpedoes ))))))

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>>152599949
>plane torpedoes
>>152590924
>some 800WTR faggot in a Lexington routes 3 squads of DBs to you

>Scharnhorst closing with enemy New Mex
>Rams
He had the fucking good goy flag and all.

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>>152600529
I saw one do that last night. He had a good amount of HP too, and just blew it all on le ebin ram XDDD

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>Scientists set to explore sunken WWII-era aircraft carrier
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/08/22/deep-dive-scientists-set-to-explore-sunken-wwii-era-aircraft-carrier.html

They are gonna live stream the whole thing too! Anyone else hype to get up close and personal with this boat?

>>152600937
>Gee which CV is that, it looks like an Independence class
>Is Independence

heh

>>152600937
Which one is this one? An independence class?

>>152600937
>the 622-foot-long carrier was subject to nuclear blasts at Bikini Atoll
>Operation Crossroads
Uh, what about the radiation?

>>152601292
Oh, shit better warn those people living in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

>>152601292
You don't get fallout at all if you explode a nuke in the ocean anon

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What's the deal with this muzzle attachment? It's on all the M2s in the game.

>>152601752
That's not an M2 you fucking ape

>>152601459
>>152601434
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/02/bikini-atoll-nuclear-test-60-years

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/bikini-atoll-radiation-levels-remain-alarmingly-high

Also, Hiroshima and Nagasaki were each bombed once.

>>152601861
M2 mod.2 is what it's called in game.

>>152601752
IIRC, an attachment for the water cooling system.

>>152602059
well it quite clearly a lewis or vikers gun model. it must be a typo with the latest update

what ship?

>>152602408
Benson

>>152602059
>>152602320
It's a watercooling attachment for Navy M2s

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>>152601752
>Wargaming in charge of making models
They have the model of a vickers instead of a 50.cal

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>>152602408
>it must be a typo

No, it's just an M2 Browning with water cooling.

More pictures here:

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_50cal-M2_MG.php

The ones in the pictures don't have the handle, but watercooled M2s were a thing.

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>>152602408
Definitely a browning with a watercooling barrel

Why does Warspites 152mm secondaries do higher damage and has a higher chance of fire than the 150mm secondaries on German BB's?

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>>152602764
>>152602773
I stand corrected. This was my post >>152602614

and I though it was this with an incorrect name/ model

>>152602910
Because they don't fire AP.

>>152602942
Ugly as sin though, jesus.

Can't argue functionality over aesthetics can we ;)

>>152603139
;^)

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Reminder that this is what we could have had instead of the perma-snarl Chihuahuas

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>>152603418
Damn bruh alpha worgens were the best. But this isn't wowg retard.

>>152603418
agreed dunkek and the enite german line is garbo

>>152603418
yiff in hell furfag

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>weekend 200% win bonus
>5 losses in a row in my Fuso
>play today with measly 50% win bonus
>6th loss in a row

JUST.

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>>152603613
Fuck, I Ctrl-F'd "Wow and just clicked the first thing that popped up. Sorry folks

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>>152603924
You're one of those people who only read a thread to see how many (You)s you get arent (You)?

Well here's (You)r (You)s. Take them (You) whore.

>>152603418
Wait a minute this isn't a boat.

>Ship magazine is in the front
>get hit on the back by HE
>"DETONATION"
What a fun mechanic

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She really is such a pretty bote.

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>>152604548
All-front BBs are curvacious and attractive

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>>152604743
agreed

>>152604743
>>152605365
>male bow
>flat as fuck
>superstructure straight from uncanny valley
>interanl arrangement is as queer as only teh RN can make it
Yeah, no that ship is gay as fuck.

>>152605453
>>152604743
>>152604548

I think the superstructure is Britiish as hell. It just screams British and reminds me of Big Ben

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>>152604743
>>152605365
Hello sailor

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>>152605453
nah. go back to meme school my kid

>>152605551
holy shit, BB's have been teased?

>>152605702
Disregard, excitement got the better of me

;_;

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>>152605551
>Izumo

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>can't set fire to ships when they've blown DCP and its on CD episode

RNG never fails to make things absolutely hitler

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>putting rangefinders on rangefinders
>on rangefinders
For what purpose?

>>152605534
Nah, it's not bulky enough. Makes me think pagoda more than anything.

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I want off of this fucking shitty ride.

>>152605935
>set two fires with one salvo
>they immediately expire because someone else had set his bow on fire and it was almost out
>immediately set another 2 fires and he repairs them
>Then no fires ever again

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>i ran out of premium today
grinding these krautbbs will now, truly take forever

>>152605981
Backup? these turrets were designed in such a way they should work if two guns are knocked out. WG doesn't model it though because russian codes ))))))

>>152598378
Dispersion looks quite big and are you just ment to go forward since trying to WSAD while running away is kinda hard since you have to angle quite hard to shoot back.

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What would you consider the quintessential ship for each Nation?
Not nesesairaly the best ship in the tree, but the one that captures the spirit of it more than any other

Nip: Yamato. Big guns, big range, big damage

Clap: Cleveland or Baltimore. High gun arcs, decent HE and AAA stacked on AAA

KM: hard to say because the CAs and the BBs are so different but I would have to say the Hipper with its fantastic AP, which remains on both the CAs and BBs

Bong: Warspite. I don't say that because it's basically the only original ship in the RN, but because I believe that it will be a template for the RN. Great maneuverability and decent, accurate guns

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>>152606472
>that pic

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>>152607142

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>>152606472
>that fucking image
I can't breathe

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>>152606472
>back to defeat

story of my life

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Quick! Post your birth month and any anon that shares the same month you have to div together

>>152608228
September.

>>152608228
July

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I really want to like Dunkerque, but Bayern is just so much more comfy.

>>152608228
Where my November niggas at?

>>152608228
November

>>152608228
March

>>152608228
my birthday is in 6 days

>>152608749
Happy early birthday anon.

>>152608635
NA?

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>>152608589
Do you regret buying her? I kinda want to get her, but while I guess she's something unique to play, that unique playstyle doesn't seem to be all that great.

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>>152606472

>>152608331
GFicher, September too

Stats-chan I hope you're taking all this info down so we can figure out who has the most subhuman birth month

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>>152608474
>July
h-hey birth buddy

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>>152608749
Happy early birthday, anon.

>>152608951
I don't really regret buying her. She's relatively cheap, and she is way better than I was led to believe. (And on top of that, she is a really fine looking ship.) That said, I haven't really figured her out yet.

I guess Dunkerque is a bit unlucky in that there are SO MANY good tier 6 BBs. I'm sure you could make her perform like a fine ship, but at least I haven't gotten the type of consistency I can expect from, say, Bayern. (Pic related. It was my next game after my previous pic.)

>>152608228
april

>>152610530
>Happy early birthday, anon.

Do burgers do this shit unironicly? Its rude af desu

>>152610530
Bayern is the poors man Warspite

>>152608895
Yes.
>>152608749
Happy early birthday anon!

>>152610602
Happy early birthday, anon.

>>152610602
Happy early birthday friend

>>152608819
>>152610530
>>152610695
Thanks, I hope I get what I wanted

My own personal 9/11 on my bedroom

>>152602057
In a nutshell, the difference is the technology in the weapons that were tested. The weapons used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were quite different (and more primitive) than the thermonuclear devices tested at places like Bikini Atoll.

>>152611886
Ask /wtg/, they might send Turbo on a one way trip to America.

>>152608589
Bayern is shit.

>>152612156
Spud pls

How do I know when I'm doing gud as a destroyer? Because everyone else is dying suicidally and I can only do so much when I'm firing torpedoes off both sides like a madman while the only other ship alive on the team is battleship who decided hiding and flanking for the first ten minutes was a good idea.

I'm doing up a spreadsheet on Demolition Expert. I can only include one configuration of each tech tree ship. Should I include the CA or CL configuration of Mogami?

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>>152610404
H-hi anon who dis

>>152612791
CL, consider Atago the superior 8in nip cruiser

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>happiness but also pain

>>152613373
>also pain

did it HURTU?

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>>152612765
When you begin getting 60%+ WRs and top XP most of the time.

You should aim to stay alive until late game, avoid suiciding for quick torp kills. Cap bases. Keep tabs on where the enemy DDs are/could be, and actively seek them with the purpose of removing them. Support your allies by destroying the enemy destroyers, then you can focus on capping bases and annoying enemy ships. Capturing bases is oftentimes derided as cheap XP farming, but it wins games. If you get the choice between capturing a base or shadowing a BB in hopes of getting a torp hit, go for the base.

If there are no bases to capture and no DD's left to sink, annoy cruisers from max range. Only do this if you're confident your evasion skills are solid enough to not get hit severely, and always have at least a smoke available in case it goes wrong. You may ask why a cruiser and not a BB? You do more damage to them, and therefore more likely to kill him, and you stop him from setting your allies on fire. Plus, since XP is based on % of HP rather than raw HP, you get more XP for removing half of its HP than a quarter of BB HP.

>>152609896
MOA_WINGS, NA
add me whenever :^)

>>152613474

yes, because the Hak hoovered all the damage

>>152608589
Fuck I was in that game, my team couldn't do shit.

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>>152613474

Just Pain

>>152605981
Ones for the main guns, obvioulsy.
The next is for the DP guns against surface targets
The last one is the DP guns against air targets

IIRC. It does look pretty silly.

>>152606821
The dispersion isn't Warspite good, but it's pretty good. And on the salvos where they say "fuck you", the one or two shells taht actually comply have a good chance of doing some decent damage thanks to their stellar penetration.

Really, the penetration on these is amazing considering the caliber.

>>152612807
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akaneiro_ni_Somaru_Saka
There is incest involved.
Though all of you are sick fucks so I wouldn't be surprised if you all like it.

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>>152608228
February

>>152615525
What on fucking earth is bad about incest porn?

>>152608228
where are my June bugs

>>152615541
fuck i dont want to play today

you on NA?

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>>152615984
fuck I dont want to play either, let's just pretend this never happened

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>>152616268
oh okay thanks.

so hows life treatin ya

>>152615525
Legal Precedent for it in Australia

what with Birth control being so effective and sex between two consenting adults regardless of marital status is socially acceptable, the judge found in favour.

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>>152616390
OK I suppose

still getting over my dad's passing

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Team pls

>>152616721
Hotel serves pudding for breakfast.

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>>152616721
>Pudding
>When Graf exists

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>>152616721
Bitch please. Hotel serves pudding as breakfast.

>>152616574
im sorry to hear that anon, i hope you pick up your pace soon

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>going for ram
That guy spent all game sniping next to that rock.

>>152616574
Sorry to hear that.

>>152615312
So really the one unique thing about the ship apart from it having 8 guns all at the front is that is has stupidly high pen.

Would that mean it over pens too much, also do you get a higher rate of citadel hits?

>>152617710
I wish they'd redo ram damage. A glancing impact like that wouldn't cause the ship to just burst into treats.
>>152618142
Also its fast for the tier
Also it has the second longest range

>>152618542
Oh wait I actually payed attention and you died like a bitch nigga.

But still, ramming is dumb.

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Is it just me or Arlios videos have gotten a bit stale as of late?
Say what you will, sure they have always been lowbrow 9gag/reddit tier, etc. But they were honest, dumb fun. Rather short, with lots of captions, insert voiceovers/clips and memes edited in.

His latest one instead is 10 whole minutes long. And it's mostly long unedited clips, with very little edition job. Its all zoom-ins on ebin div chat, which is fine for a few times, but then it gets old and boring.
Maybe it's because he wants to put out more content more often, but the quality drop is showing. Get it together pls, Arlios. You're making me a bit sad.

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>>152618802
k y s

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Hotel: Literally, the QTest.

>>152618802
arlios is part of the reddit meme cancer group that all endlessly regurgitate the same memes use the exact same clips music ect. he literally can only solve his shit editing and unfunny memes by killing himself.

>jump in blyskurwa
>against 3 fletchers
everytime, fuck this MM

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I really like the wakatake.
D-does she have a ship girl?

>>152619460
>even the carrier hunts me
please.

>>152592296
tb.h im ashamed to be german after realizing he is a whiny spergy

hope his wimrate drops phamalamalam

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>>152618672
what... you don't like channeling all of your might into a single blow, that goes against all of the might of the enemy ship channeled into their contact point...
And wiping out enemies in ONE PAUUNCCHHH!!! ?

yeah, a rather dumb and easy option vs an actual quality mechanic to be sure.

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sup /wowsg/

Anyone interested in a Prinz camo smartphone case?
`

>>152621021
That ship is angled against me? No better option than to go touch tips and explode.

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>>152621731

>>152621731
He was super low on health. Might as well try to do a bit of damage as he went.

>>152621653
Maybe for GS7 edge

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>>152618802
>finally make it into an Arlios video
>explode
T-thanks

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>>152622646

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>>152622773
wew lad

I wonder if Dunqek can secondary meme. The 13cm's have good fire chance, but I'm not too familiar with their firing arcs.

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>>152621801
>implying botes aren't homosexual

>>152621731
oh, the ship was perfectly fine trying to go for the ram. No reason not to.

>>152621021
I Had been commenting on the somewhat ridiculousness of how Ramming is applied in this game. One ships max total HP applies to the other ships max total HP (Not current levels).. or at least usually, now and again glancings don't apply ram damage to one side.
Though that webm had the guy dying to shells before impact occurred.

>>152622646
>tfw did so well with Arlios that he probably never got any good results for his vids

feels pretty good :^)

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>>152623337
>not intentionally being shit to ensure YouTube fame

Reminder that the Independence is getting explored right now and it's actually pretty neat.

http://www.nautiluslive.org/

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>>152622962

>>152623521
Holy shit, it's in pretty good condition all things considering

>>152623521
Wow this is amazing.
>yes I'm inside now
>sexual noises
I wonder if these researchers are Wowsg regulars.
>>152623874
Idk if these are your webms but if you cut the size down to 720 or 480 you can get much longer clips

>>152623521
What question should we ask?

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I love this fucking thing. She's going to get stealth nerfed so hard after her sale is done.

So its official. Cruisers are a dead class. Absolutely positively fucking dead.

No point in progressing the line lads...nothing to see here move along.

Daily reminder if you look in the general direction of a BB you will get bitchslapped

> Every Cruiser who goes 1v1 a BB

https://youtu.be/Jlg7vqsyNz0?t=2

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Fuck.

>>152624493
agreed the whole you can just hunt dd's meme is ded, bong cl's will just be food.

>>152623521
F

>>152618802
>shoot at Blys
>kill invisible Nicholas
Goddamn.

Scharn is such a beast. :3

>>152624230
Ask what the most special place in the carrier was

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I'm proud of you greg

>>152625534
why the fuck is this game so screwy. cruisers were supposed to be medium tanks MEDIUM TANKS. why can't i just ez-skill my way to super unicam in them like in tanks reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Finished my spreadsheet investigating fire-starting performance and the effects of Demolition Expert. Points of note:
>Großer Kurfürst has the greatest alpha fire strike.
>Zao's fire-starting strength is in her alpha strike. For fires over time, she's on par with Hindenburg and significantly surpassed by Des Moines.
>USN DDs gain the most from DE by a significant margin.
>CL Mogami is a tremendous firestarter and gains more than any other cruiser from DE.
>Khabarovsk is finely balansed))))))))

Full spreadsheet available here (go to 'Firestarting' tab at the bottom): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JapnvYHgTRn1ndUlLD9eFiRMfeEc6Ufqf7RHVy4HEzk/edit?usp=sharing

If you spot any errors you can let me know here. In particular, I may be a gun or two off for the broadside weights of some casemated cruisers.

>>152612931

>>152623874
how the fuck do people make their BBs do such massive and consistent damage
I never do this shit in my warspite

>>152626772
>Pilot asks "Should we angle the sub about to try and see the tail?"
>One grunts out *Ooh, yes. Definitely, Yes please"

These guys ... love their botes, and planes.

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>>152626772
>>152627259
These are our people

>tfw can't watch entire stream

Really neat tho

>>152626716
Luck

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Grab caps, fuck cruisers.

>>152628431
>Consistent luck

I've heard of this. I think it's called skill

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>>152626716
>warspite
Well there's your problem. Try Playing literally any other BB.

How do I kill Kaiser with Derzki? The secondaries just fuck me up as soon as I'm in torp range.

>>152629129
you dont without an island for a 2km ambush.

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>>152626716
>>152628732
>warspite is bad

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>>152628351
I've been recording&Streaming since it started a few hours ago. I'll be uploading/streaming it till it ends (Pretty sure)
So it'll be available at a later date. No Worries.

>>152624286
>6 cits

How? I'm only doing half that damage per game.

>>152608228
August 4th here. Ty based Jake for buying me prem on my bday :3

>>152630459
>Aim shallowest impact angle
>Acquire citadel strikes

???? She's so easy to score citpens in.

boog pls. Why did you log off

AAAAAAAANNNNNND TAKE OFF!

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>They are going to do their own Catapult launch along the CV.

Oh ... yes... yes please

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>Scientist1:"This shows how deep she's embedded in the sea floor"
>DiveLead, a little over-excited:"She's in.. She's DEEP, DEEP IN"

One Sekrit hole in the bote found

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>>152618802
Is it just me or did you go from cancer to Cancer?

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what

>>152631620
>Spergs out at the very mention of Arlios

Must be nice having a personal stalker

>>152631935
Ocean bioluminescence

>>152631989
arlios should stop stalking/wowsg/ with his boring 9gag meme videos

Agreed friend.

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>>152631989
Lel.

>>152616574
That's sad to hear senpai. I lost my mother when I was 10 so I know what you're going through.

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>>152632429
The pain is unreal

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The fuck is this match making? I thought this wasnt supposed to happen anymore.

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>>152591104
>unironically using d*scord

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#outplayed

At least I got a flag!

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Another reminder that cruisers below t8 are fucking unplayable.

Fucking garbage ships that piss their pants at the sight of a bb shell.

Pro-tip of the day: Be a friend and dont let your div mate throw your game with a cruiser.

>>152633636
This is the result of your actions. Friends don't let friends gunbote bucky.

>>152630659
pls
>shoot broadside ships at 8km
>nothing

>>152633868
>what is the immunity zone

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>>152633432
I looked at the chat and it's just some retard from EU and Anumati trying to get people to shitpost about carriers, Wave and how much inferiority complex rerolls from SEA have.

>>152634042

"no"

>>152633868
>What is flat shell trajectory

>>152630019
Warspite is complete trash and I'm the best Warspite player in wowsg

>>152634815
cruiser like dispersion on BB guns? what's not to love?
desu, i find her incredibly fun

>>152635093
She's garbage, the worst and least fun BB at t6

>In May 1943 the French proposed to the USA that the incomplete Jean Bart be finished in a US yard as a combination anti-aircraft / carrier platform. Jean Bart had already given up her four 380 mm (14.96") guns to re-arm sister-ship Richelieu, so this proposal saw refitting her single main turret with four 340 mm (13.4") guns taken from the old battleship Lorraine together with cradles from the Métline coastal defense battery in Tunisia. All smaller caliber guns were to be removed and replaced with fifteen twin 5"/38 (12.7 cm) mountings and sixteen 40 mm Bofors quad mountings. Six aircraft of either US Avenger or British Barracuda torpedo bomber types along with US Hellcat or British Seafire fighters were to be carried. A second proposed reconstruction saw removal of all aircraft facilities and the secondary battery increased to seventeen twin 5"/38 (12.7 cm) mountings along with twenty 40 mm quads. This latter design also entailed using eight Mark 37 GFCS and twenty Mark 51 fire control systems. The USN decided that their resources would be much better spent turning out new ships - the guns and directors were the equivalent of about six Gearing class destroyers - rather than to use them to rearm an obsolescent foreign warship and so Jean Bart then languished until her postwar rebuild in France.

Oh baby premium Jean Bart with seventeen fucking dual 5"/38s WHEN???

>>152636248
>Battleship Atlanta
My body is ready.

>>152622398
hmm... maybe you can find an online custom case site to print this

Here's the file and stuffs
https://imgur.com/a/mbNR1

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>>152631536

>>152636248
>a St. Louis
>but with better armor
>and loads of AA
>traveling at 30 knots
A literal memeship.

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>Dunkerque was laid down in the Brest Navy Yard, on 24 December 1932

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recently came back to the game for german BBs, im free xping my way up to the t7 with the scharn and tirp while playing my old iowa(i quit before i ever even got t10) here's my harbor.

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Which would I hate myself less for getting, Atago or Scharnhorst?

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>>152638295
Atago

>>152638295
Tough call. Atago is a more traditional cruiser and a very solid one at that.

Scharnhorst on the other hand requires a unique, and interesting and fun, approach, but that means it's more likely you'll have no idea what youre doing ans will feel buyers remorse for not knowing what the fuck youre doing. But it can be a damn fun ship, they both can.

Atago is a sure bet, Scharn is a bit of a gamble.

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>>152638492
>that tiny poi

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>>152638696

Tiny poi you say?

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>>152638295
Atago can make around 400-500k with a good game with premium, around 80-100k dmg usually does the trick for me. Tirpitz makes the most dosh tho, I've seen people post like 1mil silver games before.

If you're looking to only buy one premium ever and you want to save the most amount of money possible, I'd recommend waiting for the World of Warships anniversary as I'd assume tech tree prems will go on sale. This obviously doesn't apply to Scharn because lmao artificial rarity.

>>152638492
>>152638587
Noted, thanks

>>152638952
I wanted tiny poi, not terrible grammar

>>152638295
Scharnhorst, she doesn't see T10s, and the power gap between a T7 and a T9 is far less than the gap between a T8 and a T10.

Also she makes only slightly less credits but is cheaper to repair, and because of the MM changes she is often top tier.

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>>152639032

Too bad.

>>152639182
And if you care, Scharnhorst just spits out Dreadnought, Fireproof, and CQE medals at you. Free flags, yo!

>>152638295
Things to consider beyond the characteristics of the ships themselves:
>T7 is very frequently high-tier and T8 is very frequently low-tier
You can have a bigger influence on the match as top-tier, but you earn greater rewards for shooting at higher tiered ships - a double-edged sword for both ships.
>One trains German captains, the other trains Japanese captains
It's nice to have a Premium for each nation you're grinding a line in.

I played Atago on the PT and she's good, but plays pretty much exactly like tech-tree vessels. Scharnhorst offers something unique and that appeals to me.

There's also the possibility of goying out and getting the Scharn bundle, then buying Atago with doubloons.

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Remember guys, winning in randoms is literally not important.

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>>152639182
>the power gap between a T7 and a T9 is far less than the gap between a T8 and a T10.

Like hell it is.

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>>152639797
>765 avg xp overall

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>>152639797

See that doesn't make sense.
I thought SEA was supposed to have a higher skill base. I'm not ragging on your stats but now I'm curious.
How do you have a higher WTR than me for the day if you did worse in every metric. I don't get it.
Nice job playing cruisers though.

>>152640132
I guess it's because everyone is more skilled on the server so you do less of everything overall. If everyone is good, then you can't do more damage, cap more base, get more kills etc.

>>152640132
WTR is all about expected values for botes, so SeaBad here played a premium t8 cruiser and did better than all the shitters who have played it while you played a battleship or something and didn't do as "well" comparatively, according to how WTR's formula works.

>>152640132
Maybe you play BB? I dunno, performance expectations probably adjust based on the ship type played. If you were in a T10 then I'd expect that you'd need to perform head and shoulders better than me to get a highter WTR, as a relative level.

>>152640132
>>152640273
best example I can use to explain is

>50k dmg in Atlanta gives 2k WTR
>50k dmg in Flint gives 900 WTR

the former has avg dmg server-wide dragged down by a bunch of dumb shitters, the latter is given to ranked faggots and they pull super high avg dmg in it

WTR is a flawed metric imo

>>152640417
Reward ships like that throw off the calculations, yeah, but fortunately, very few people have Flint, so it doesn't throw off the overall player calculations very much.

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>>152640273
>>152640417

So how would you go about fixing WTR or another system for it?

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>>152639575
>>152639378
>>152639182
Thanks for the info guys. I'll probably roll with Atago since I am grinding down the Jap line.

>>152640717

http://na.wows-numbers.com/personal/rating

Why don't we ever use this site?

>>152640717
Skill™ and StatPad™

>>152640717
WG needs to provide WT with reliable stats on capping so it can be factored in.

>>152640717
>le expected values face

idk I'm not a stats fag, I feel like stats metrics are for like 10-15% of the game population and the rest literally give zero fucks

>>152640847
keep in mind that Atago can train any class of ship captain, not just cruisers. Pretty nice of our Jewish overlords :^)

Why does the Konig feel so good?

It doesn't look special on paper

>>152639182
Explain how tier 7 can go up against tier 9.

>>152640717
>>152640132
>>152638952
Autism, who could this anun be.

>>152641076
I tried retraining my hatsu captain to buckey but it was fucking painful without EM and AFT.

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>>152641363
>AFT???
>he doesn't have Tachibana or Kamikaze

loling at ur life dude

>>152640896
It's a good site to track your personal performance, but as for their PR scoring system...
>nDmg = max(0, (rDmg - 0.4) / (1 - 0.4))
>nFrags = max(0, (rFrags - 0.1) / (1 - 0.1))
>nWins = max(0, (rWins - 0.7) / (1 - 0.7))
>PR = 700*nDMG + 300*nFrags + 150*nWins
That is completely fucking arbitrary. Why the heavy reliance on normalized damage?

>>152641234
>Explain how tier 7 can go up against tier 9.
By queuing up and getting matched against T9s.

>>152639889
>T10
>zao yamato moscow kebab hindenberg shima

>T9
ibuki izumo dm dons roon

hmm

>>152642368
>T7
>Naga Colo, Pensafuckingcola, Yorck

Youre fucking delusional if you think 7s have an easier time facing 9s than 8s do with 10s.

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>KM BBs are RU CL's hard counter
>play kirov
>get deleted
What a time to be alive

>>152642535
>cherrypicking the worst ships

Myoko, Schors, Scharn, Blyskawasaki Gneisaur etc can certainly do better against T9s than T8s can do against T10s

What do you have at T8? Tirpitz spam? Amagi? NC? Mogami? Sounds real useful against Yamatos, stealth firing zaos, and walls of skill

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Anons, I unironically like Eurobeat's videos

>early screenshots have bow anchor
>no bow anchor in-game
Did they seriously just forget it when it came time to sell it?

>>152642990
It's ok anon, we still love you regardless


Also is the Dunkermeme worth investing in? Was her bad label a lie?

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>>152643373
Forgot pic.

>>152641363
>painful without EM
You are meming wrong, my dude. You should be at a range where the additional turret speed is not that important.

>>152641632
>Not meming at all
Get with the program you square.

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Hah.

>>152644847
>Saving screenshots as jpegs
bruh

>>152645534
>saving lossless bantz

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Getting uptiered is great

>>152643397
dunkek is garbo. she gets memed against t8's constantly. she can'e even resist terpiz bow on i'st horrible

Is secondary build Scharn good?

Is there any reason to fire HE from a BB at another BB? noob here.

>>152626229
Haven't played for a while, but that's interesting for someone who took SE instead of DE for the US DDs. Should reconsider getting it once I get back to playing Warships.

>tfw October

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>>152646640
I dont even have manual secondaries and its already good.

>>152646687
if you know you're not going to be able to pen their armor, like against a bow no North Carolina or Tirpitz or something, if only to get some damage instead of none
but even then AP has a better chance of destroying their turrets

>tfw I'm considering getting the Scharnhorst despite the fact I've never played BBs, only DDs and CL/CAs.

>>152646975
I'm shitting all over the scharnhorst left and right, I'd suggest getting at least to T5 in one of the BB trees first before becoming the new Tirpitz shooting gallery.

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>be in bayern
>4 games in a row the cv/cvs target me only til i die
i've had enough.

>>152647196
Hmm, so which tree should I fuck around with? I remember trying out US BBs in CBT and they were alright, but I didn't do that great in them.

Was considering going down the German BB line, though. Would that be a solid choice for a first time baBBy?

>Soviet navy
>DD = mini CA
>CA = mini BB

BB = mini CV??
CV = mini DD??

>take Iowa for a cruise
>it ain't me starts playing

w w
e
w w

>>152647321
BB = Executor-class Star Dreadnought

>>152647302
Well if you wanna buy tirpitz or scharn then yea I'd probably go with kraut BB.

FWIW they seem to have good ROF and nice arcs, I haven't played them enough personally to be familiar with all their quirks. Seem to have excellent secondaries range and solid armour. Since you said you that you haven't played BB before I'll give you just one thing to think about;

BB is the one class in the game where your piloting matters the most. It's very easy to get citpenned by other BB, you will get people lighting you up like a BBQ and torps will fucking reqk you. They are the class I would perhaps suggest needs to swerve more than any other because while you have the HP to survive a lot of damage the catch22 here is that you're going to be taking a lot of damage by default, it's in your nature.

BB play completely differently from any other class and the #1 thing to learn straight away is when to advance and when to retreat. Try and stay at a range to your enemy where his arcs cannot plunge or directly citpen and maintain a range where you can either plunge or low-arc citpen. Against cruisers I'd suggest trying to kite because these idiots will always go for torps and in doing so expose delicious cits.

>>152647576
Well, looks like I'll be hitting the German BBs, then. And spend time learning how to swerve on a BB in the lower tiers.

>>152646791
To be honest, at most tiers DE is not the best choice for USN DDs, even considering the difference it makes.

>2-4, 5 (A-hull)
Your muzzle velocity is good at these tiers (the best on a DD of any tier in the case of T5), so AFT is viable. Crazy concealment is not so important at these tiers, so taking DE instead of a L5 skill is a viable course of action.

>5 (B-hull)
Considering its low muzzle velocity and good HP for its tier, this is the best candidate in the line for DE.

>6-10
AFT is a no-go due to the shit muzzle velocity. If you are the ultimate knife-fighter and can dispatch your DD counterparts without taking a scratch, DE is viable. Otherwise, SE is a must.

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>mfw I lose 5 games in a row where I got 80k+ damage

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>have 100+ AA Iowa
>no carriers EVER anymore

it's think it's time for a refit : /

>>152649814
>Refit Iowa
>Get CV matches only
You're asking for it

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>>152650071
They know. They fucking know.

>>152647302
>IJN
Long range, decent to great speed, relatively poor armour - a bit more flexible than other BBs. You're never out of the fight for long in one of these, but your speed can get you into tricky situations if you're not careful. T3 and T4 are sub-par ships, but the mid-tiers are great and almighty Yamato awaits at the end.

>USN
Medium range, low speed until T7, good armour, powerful AA. While the armour is a bit more forgiving than on IJN ship, sailing to the wrong position can put you out of the fight for longer. They were considered the best brawlers until the KM ships arrived. It's consistently strong line, though the TX isn't quite as awe-inspiring as the Yamato.

>KM
Short range, poor dispersion, decent speed, short-range optimised armour, powerful secondaries. Not much use until they can close the distance, at which point they become unstoppable. At higher tiers their secondaries and Hydroacoustic Search consumable means that DDs fear them rather than vice-versa.

>>152649814
Just div with someone in a carrier you mong.

>>152650174
Of course, it happens to me all the time.
>Play DD
>Get CVs every match
>Play CA
>No CVs ever

>>152649341
Ah, right, the arcs on US DDs...forgot about that. And since I can't knife fight without losing at least half of my health, I guess SE is still in.

>>152650232
Huh, I kinda like having to get up close, considering I can't hit shit at long range anyway.
Still gonna be painful as fuck trying to get that close.

Looks like I have to play KM BBs like oversized CAs, then.

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>BBs can't hunt DDs

What is this meme?

#Koniglife

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>It's euro time and reading the thread
>random shit posts but otherwise good discussion sans "how is [great bote]?" "Feces lmao"

I'm pleasantly surprised. I needed some good news and good discussion after checking out the forums.

>scharnhorst is terrible and is just an HE spammer
>isn't good at brawling sans torpedoes
>the dunk must be played like an Iowa or NC but firing mostly HE
>German battleships are shit and cannot penetrate anything
>German battleships are shit because of the terrible accuracy and inability to brawl because it can't bounce shots until the bisko
>Scharnhorst needs a buff for penetration and also desperately needs an armor buff with her sister

I am never going back there again. I posted an issue about the Dunkerque secondaries being bugged as well as being blocked from firing by the fucking boats at the front of the ship.

Many people think that's a design feature, the rear turret should bug out, the front ones not working or shooting forward like every other fucking ship. I'm glad I'm here to see you retards from the eu server shitpost. They're not ironic in the slightest bit over there.

>>152653319
>and also desperately needs an armor buff with her sister
I mean, I can at least see why people would be angry that their guns are garbage when they're sitting at the back of the map or something, that's supposed to happen when they play like an idiot, but how could anyone even possibly complain that they have no armor
you don't even have to do anything and it just bounces stuff for you, I cannot even begin to understand how they're managing to fuck that up

>konig firing at another konig
>he's straight broadside, I'm approaching at an angle
>he fires, 13K
>I fire just above his belt, 3K
>he fires again, 10K
>I fire just above his belt again, 4K

I swear to fucking god