/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

French Civilisation > German Kultur

Reapers due soon

>>152565736
This

>>152565736
Both are shit in the current year desu

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Daily reminder that La Plata is the rightfull capital of Argentina and the United Provinces

>>152565836
>founded a mere 134 years ago
>rightful capital of anything
I've slept in beds older than that shit.

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>annex Greenland as Belgium
>it gets +80k Wallonoan and Flemish pops, making it +90% of my cultures
>all Danes left decades ago
>primary Greenland's culture is still Danish while Flemish and Wallon isn't even accepted

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>>152565908
It's not cheating if I call it a minimod :^)

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>>152565836
Stop shitposting and finish your mod

Couldn't find the Hide Argentinian Threads pic in my folder so this has to do for now

>>152565836
>>152565953
And I forgot to add
>rightfull capital of Argentina and the United Provinces
>didn't even exist when the United Provinces were a thing

>>152565985
That's why you alter the savefile.

>>152565836
>founded a mere 134 years ago
>rightful capital of anything
I've slept with slags older than that shit

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>>152566015
Here friendo

>>152566005
>giving yourself free cores in wallonia, luxembourg, rheinland and flanders and giving yourself 200% assimilation as well as removing cores
>not cheating
It's still cheating, it's a cheating minimod. What's the point though, if you are going to cheat just change so you start with these provinces and they are full of your pops.

>>152566131
I'm aware that it's cheating lad. I also cheated to raise France's life rating to be closer to Germany's

I already owned all of the land, the core changing stuff is to increase assimilation

>>152566205
What's the point of any of this if you are going to cheat? Just change so you start the game with all this shit.

>>152566256
Fun

>>152566294
How is removing any challenge fun?

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r8 my post-Scramble world

also what should be my next targets? I'm aiming at finishing Guyana, Fiji, Tahiti, Guam, Taiwan. what else?

>>152566126
Alex is brazilian, know your meme.

>>152566338
>playing as GP
>a challenge
The only "challenge" this game was annexing the land, which I did within the first 20 years before I messed with anything

>>152566339
That's actually a pretty good africa
>getting Greenland and Iceland
For what purpose

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>>152565985
Greenland probably should get one of those decisions to organize or reorganize the country like exists for the African colonies you can make.

>>152565836
Play Fatherland already for fuck's sake and then drop your project or at least redo it so it isn't so bland. NWOII is shit, and your concepts suck when they've already been done, much better than yours will.

>>152566339
Is that Swedish Ethiopia or Ethiopian Sweden?

>>152566460
this might've been one of the pictures I screencapped myself oneday

The lady looks really like a spooky ghostie

>>152565736
>German Kultur
More like """"""""Kultur"""""""" me lad

>>152566425
Exactly, it's already easy enough, how removing any chances of having to fight for your land in the future or rebellions of minorities fun?

>>152566205
Might as well make an event that turns all non-primary culture POPs turn into French ones in all provinces you own and fires every month.

>>152566505
Because my goal of making the Low Countries French isn't possible without cheating

>>152566339
>all tha black shit
why

>>152566563
You could genocide and encourage immigration.

That's like saying that your goal of making a WC as luxembourg isn't possible without cheating so you made a decision where you inherit all countries.

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What should be my end game goals? Im gonna start upgrading my military pretty soon, Im still only at the 2nd tech row

>>152566641
>making a decision to assimilate 500k pops is equivalent to a decision that annexes every country
If you play this game for a challenge, and not to roleplay as whatever country you're playing, then more power to you. That's not how I like to play

>>152566719
>a decisions that forcefully assimilates a bunch of pops, only for you, and that removes a bunch of cores, only for you, because you think it's too hard to do it without cheating
It''s the same thing.

>not to roleplay
What's the point of roleplaying if you are cheating, you are roleplaying as wizard or as god?

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>>152565804
>current year isn't 1904
>you will never watch the marathon of the St. Louis Olympics

>>152566339
Take away Siam's right to call itself uncolonized

>>152566719
>replying to shitposters

>>152566778
The French are basically gods

>>152566715
Tunis and the Levant, don't actually form the Arab Union.

>>152566816
That's not what shitposting is.

>>152566842
So you are roleplaying as if you were a god? Ok.

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>>152566715
Germany pls dont bully
Thankfully Russia joined my side

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How do I maximize fun as France?

>>152567215
Why are you defending the Turks

>>152567215
>Russia
Pray their armies aren't in Siberia

>>152567215
That industry looks low for that population

>>152567428
Assimilation minimod :^)

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>tfw too smart for grand strategy

>>152567564
I have a cheat event that gives like +3k% assimilation rate desu. Sometimes I use it, feels satisfying

>>152567524
Give him a break, he's playing an unciv. The time he takes to catch up and all.

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>>152567428
Invade America.

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

>>152567428
import an euiv franceblob and then focus solely on industrializing and assimilation without any further land grabs

>>152567428
Don't cheat and don't fuck Germany early, try to deal with them after they formed.

>>152567432
Because they are my sphereling, and I dont want Germany to release some shitty unciv in my sphere.

>>152567524
9th biggest total pop, 8th in industry, looks fine to me

>>152567658
post it!

What the fuck is this cancer

>>152567863
Not him but it's quite easy to do it yourself if you want to cheat

>>152567770
How does cultures even work in EU4 import games? When you assimilate a province in EU4, are everyone in that province the assimilated culture in V2?

>>152567804
Aren't most of the populous nations unciv though? And AI is really shit at industry, I think you should have more with that population, but probably you haven't researched all industry techs yet, playing Egypt and all

>>152567880
Some autist trying to force shitposting drama really hard
report and ignore

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>>152567880
By the way he types and the expressions he uses, it's the guy who reported the archive still butthurt as fuck. So discord/steam group.
Don't give him ttention, mods will soon ban him for spamming anyway.

>>152568007
kek archive guy got cucked hard

>>152567924
It's really hard to get your literacy up and catch up in tech, Egypt starts with slavery too. Not even him but it's not that easy to catch up.

>>152567924
>Aren't most of the populous nations unciv though?
That's just China. It just takes a long time to get european level in craftsmen number.

>>152567924
>When you assimilate a province in EU4, are everyone in that province the assimilated culture in V2?
no, the longer you've controlled and culture swapped a province in euiv the more of your pops will be in that province proportionally when you import but some of the original peoples will remain

>>152568145
To be fair India, Indonesia, Persia and Egypt are more populous than the average civ.

Will reapers due fix ck2?

>>152568145
>It just takes a long time to get european level in craftsmen number.
Depends on literacy and other stuff. For Japan isn't really that hard.

>>152568248
i'm not from reddit anon

are we being raided

>>152568353
yes

>thinking his sage works when people who are actually discussing grand strategies are bumping this thread every minute

>>152568353
Its just one guy

>>152568407
He just want to shitposr, report and ignore it

>>152568353
No, check the IPs
don't post about him, just seriously report and ignore

So how's the GP shit for EU4 will work?

>>152568495
Iirc is only for the nation that's first in score
Didn't they write a DD about it?

He's literally replying to himself now

>>152568495
>>152568608
Yeah, here it is.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-9th-of-june-2016.944664/

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Based mods

>>152568317
Maybe

>>152568801
It's kinda funny how butthurt someone can get to literally start flipping on the thread.

>>152568954
bugger off

>>152568987
Even more funny is that the ban works on this guy. I'm inclined to believing he's a literal child afraid of even touching his router.

What unciv/weak starting nation should I play in HPM? I've done Egypt, Brazil, Hyderabad, Qing, Japan, Persia and Vietnam. I'm thinking maybe something like the Ottomans, West Africa (Massina?) or Portugal.

>>152569339
Matabele
Bukhara-Turkestan
VIetnam

>>152569339
Indonesia

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10/10 America

>>152569409
Yucatan is rightful Confederate clay

>>152569339
Sikh Empire
Boer States
Mexico
Ethiopia
Massina > Toucoleour Empire
Bosnia
Cuba
Mongolia

>>152569409
>New England w/o RI CT or MA

>>152569665
Are you okay lad, what the fuck are you talking about

>>152569710
my guess is dota 2

>>152569674
Sorry m8 but I dont speak american

>>152569665
Wrong thread

>>152569781
>>152569743
>>152569710
>not banning slardar when you pick prussia

simply epic

>getting triggered by someone else cheating in a single player game
autism levels are reaching critical

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>>152569750
The New England Confederation is pic related + VT (conquered by a hit squad from the green mountains and nh right after the revolutionary war

>>152569924
>new york not part of new england
epic

>>152569851
who are you quoting

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>>152569972
New York is definitely not part of New England, historically because it was Dutch, but now because it is a nanny state that is despised by New Englanders, especially the northern States

>>152569979
your mom

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Guess who ruined Spain and the USA? Time for the UK to try their unique form of communism now.

>>152569972
It's New Amsterdam

>>152570070
What exactly is unique form?

>>152570126
It's one that has never been tried before

Is there any way to convert muslims in vic2?

>>152570563
make them work in liquor factories

>>152570603
kek

>>152570126
Globalist Neo-Marxism aka "we now totally have a reason to blob everywhere"

>>152570059
can upstate be a part of New England?
please?

>finally start playing ck2 after months of not playing
>update everything and get all the new dlcs
>all this unrecognizable shit
>all my vassals are now a bunch of cunts
>shattered retreat bullshit from eu4
>people in india and africa making coalitions against me
Jesus christ wtf did they do to this game?

>>152571314
In 3 days lad, you'll be able to remove those features.

>>152571354
Oh thank jesus fucking christ

What are fun but not very hard non-western nations in HPM?

>>152571402
>he doesn't want to give women full rights in the year of our lord 1268

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>>152571769
Japan

>>152571354
How? I thought reaper's due was mostly about ebola.

>>152571769
Persia definitely

>>152571861
Thanks family

>>152571850
Nah, the free-update adds an option menu when you start a new game where you can choose which feature you want to use, and how they work.

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>>152565672
which grand strategy features the best playable representation of muslims?

>>152571974
So they can't just admit they fucked up and act like somebody liked it, at least it's something

>>152572000
Ck2, bunch of degenerates being couped by another bunch.

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>>152572000
Stellaris

>>152572000
t. terrorist

>>152572000
CK2

>>152572045
Here you go for the full details: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-the-rules-of-the-game.923570/

"Communist" dictatorships are actually kind of neat in HPM.

>when your government is overthrown, you instantly get a ton of good social reforms including healthcare
>can get further social reforms at any time
>capitalists and landowners will be demoted back to farmers/labourers or killed right away, meaning that the poor strata will be richer as all of the RGO/factory income will be distributed to them (and any clerks)
>impossible to get new capitalists and landowners who only really exist to consume/be taxed anyway
>get access to several decisions that give you modifiers which reduce militancy, bringing stability to your country
>usually has good, non-cuck military policies such as pro-military or jingoism, unlike their cucked socialist cousin
>planned economy, while not as good as capitalism, will still allow you to get more than 6 factories in every state and focus on important endgame stuff that capitalists don't tend to build such as aeroplanes, tanks, electric gear, fuel etc.
>full citizenship gives you a bonus to assimilation
>can genocide

Arguably just as good as fascist dictatorships or even better.

>>152572247
>gender equality disables achievements
>Meneth on suicide watch

Thanks for linking to it.
I think this is a retarded way of dealing with it. Just make the game historical and let modders do the rest, but whatever, good on them I guess.

>>152572482
t. /leftypol/

>>152572482
wtf i love communism now

>>152572552
Not an argument.

Im new to the grand strategy scene, just started with HOI 4 but its completely fucking broken, although i did have a lot of fun.

I want a game with much more depth politically where i can subvert, colonise, genocide etc.. whats the best thing for me? thanks boyos

>>152572783
Victor(ia) 2

>>152572830
He should play something easier if he just started tho

>>152572783
eu4 obviously

>>152572923
Dont pretend that V2 is hard m8

Why do primary culture libtards get so mad when you genocide your non-accepted cultures? It's not affecting them in any meaningful way.

This isn't historical either.

>>152572923
i managed on HOI 4 easily if thats similair

>>152573018
Are you retarded?

>>152573018
>liberals getting mad at genocide isn't historical/doesn't make sense

>>152572998
Not for experienced player obviously, but when you play it for first time, you should know at least the basics of these games.

>>152572783
Victoria 2, and watch some YouTube tutorials if you really don't get how it works.

The best nation to learn as is probably Japan, it gives you

>experience with Westernisation
>experience with building your economy
>experience with diplomacy
>experience with both naval and land warfare
>decent enough experience with colonisation if you're quick enough

>>152573097
Not a SINGLE country has had any significant rebellions organized by their primary culture (hundreds of thousands, up to a million rebels at a time perhaps) because their government had killed off their minorities, you idiot.

Don't pretend that shit ever happened because it didn't.

Can we implement a national health service in CK2 769 with Reaper's Due?

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>>152573018
>why are left wing people getting mad at genocide

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>>152573018
>This isn't historical either.

>>152573221
Even building hospitals in that year is pretty urealistic.

>>152573291
>hospitals didn't exist in 769

wew

>>152573291
I don't think you can build them before the 1000s

R-Right?

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>>152573201

>>152573378

You can.

Source: Current stream on twitch.

>>152573201
Not actual rebellions, but during the 19th centuries there were loads of protests against governments senselessly killing people of other cultures.

For example:
>Domestic uproar against the treatment of Native Americans by the Feds
>International uproar against the treatment of the Boer by the Brits

>>152573379
Not an argument.

>>152573291
It would be better if you could build them only at churches

>>152573438
>19th centuries

Not sure why I thought there were multiple centuries

>>152573291
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hospital#Medieval_Europe

>>152572482
Yea, good luck building industry manually or being at the bottom of rating.

>>152572482
Reminder that reddit unironically support communism irl because of how it works in Victoria 2

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>>152573573
>The primary function of medieval hospitals was to worship to God.

>>152573246
>>152573231
>>152573127
name ONE example of it happening in history. Liberals of primary culture chimping out genocide of non-accepted cultures.

Why did Germany even waste time with Namibia, let alone try to genocide them?
Was it going to become a proper resettlement colony if they didn't lose them in WW1?

>>152573438
Giving your primary culture pops up to 7 militancy every time you genocide your minorities just ends up causing constant large-scale rebellions all the time, a scenario that had literally never happened IRL.

Protests can't even compare to millions and millions of your primary culture pops openly rebelling against the government.

A protest in that era can involve how many people? Hundreds, thousands? Tens of thousands? How many of them are actually fighting against the government, violenty occupying any provinces and causing massive damage as they try to overthrow your government? Now compare that to up to a million well-armed rebels with good leadership who will literally fight to the last man.

HPM is just an idiot for thinking that such a mechanic is good. Only minority cultures should get any significant militancy if you genocide them, primary culture liberals should probably only get like 2 at most (not 7) because otherwise you end up with ridiculous scenarios that make zero sense.

>>152573794
>>152573438

>>152573794
>my special time of libtardism isn't cucked
top cuck

>>152569665
t.Gage

>>152573862
>causing massive damage
Wat? They only make you lose the current on going constructions on the state, you don't lose anything else.

>>152573842
Look lad, its not like genocides were an everyday affair. Where it happened liberals couldn't even say anything. You don't get an automatic rebellion either, stop pretending to be retarded and pretending liberals shouldn't care about this.

>>152573729
Reddit supports communism because it as supposedly a tolerant utopia where nobody will have to work.

Left-wingers don't play Victoria. Only people with strong conservative leanings who understand the value of hard work and realize there are natural inequalities play Victoria.

>>152573945
What is the war torn modifier, which reduces population growth significantly for about a year, along with other debuffs such as lesser RGO and factory throughput?

>>152573842
When german see not german, he has to kill. That's just how his brain works.

>>152573862
>liberals care about slavery
>us decides to genocide instead
>OK now we don't care about human life
Stop crying that you can't have a liberal paradise that doesn't care about this shit

>>152573869
>Not actual rebellions
>NOT
>ACTUAL
>REBELLIONS

SHOW ME ONE INSTANCE WHERE LIBERALS GOT UP IN ARMS TO FIGHT THE GOVERMENT

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Does More Music Mod work with 1.1.0?

>>152573951
My post isn't part of the militancy of accepted pops when genocide occurs though, I'm literally just wondering what they wanted with Namibia. It's even dangerous to go after it, a far away colony with already ridiculously low population density and avoiding a land connection between Walvis Bay and the proper South African dominion.

Is Vicky actually more complex than Civ?
At least Civ makes a completely pacifist playthrough viable.

>>152574249
t. stan
>Romania
>civilized

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>>152574003
lad...

>>152574305
You can reach number 1 GP without invading anybody in Victoria II.

>>152574305
So does Victoria. You may be thinking about EU4.

>>152574475
Do it as Sikkim

>>152569370
>>152569392
>>152569647
How do;

> Matabele
> Bukhara
> Indonesia
> Bosnia
> Mongolia

work?

>>152574113
Ok
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdezeb_holodomor-peasants-uprising_news

>>152574569
based drumph poster

>get enough upper house support to get a new social reform
>enact better pensions because I believe that it would help my country's populace
>my pops start getting seriously mad, rebels are getting weapons and organizing in huge numbers to overthrow the government
>find out that it's because people wanted better safety regulations instead of better pensions
>oh well, I'll have to wait for half a year to get that
>too late, there's a 400k rebel stack in my capital now, and tens of thousands of rebels everywhere else
>can't rush the new reform that would calm them down yet
>half a million of my pops end up dying within months
>all of this because I got the wrong social reform

t-thanks johan

>>152574569
Absolutely based

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>>152574308
t.Girlfucker420

>>152574519
>>152574475
It's boring though. Try playing as a small nation like Switzerland. You will be playing on speed 5 all the time, just researching and building factories.
Civ gives you far more things to do.

>>152574569
MGGA

>>152574664
np ;)

>>152574574
>holodomor
>genocide
>not a failure of a shit economic system

>>152574731
t. blob pro

If you don't know how to play tall, that's your fault, not the game's.

>>152574831
t. commie

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>>152574413
>we all know communism is the only tried and true system

>human nature just dictates capitalism will never work

>>152574831
>>not a failure of a shit economic system
>not the intentional starvation of counter revolutionaries by the Soviet elite

>>152574831
>holodmor
>not genocide

>also known as the Terror-Famine and Famine-Genocide in Ukraine
>was a man-made famine
>the Holodomor has been recognized by the independent Ukraine[11] and 14 other countries as a genocide of the Ukrainian people carried out by the Soviet Union

>>152574664
If your millitancy is that high you have no buisness passing social reforms. Meme stupid things get stupid prizes. Enjoy your welfare state.
>>152574569
Make /gsg/ Great Again!!!

>>152574843
>If you don't have fun clicking a button every 10 minutes you don't know how to play

>>152575167
Cause we are all with 'her' (R&I)

>>152575286
Wew

>>152574871
>>152574929
>>152574908

Morons, even historians agree that Holodomor was not a real genocide.
But I'm sure you have a very nice /pol/ graphic to prove otherwise
Just fuck you.

>>152575167
Probably he deleted it

AARnon, compiler fag here.

I've run into some problems when I tried to upload the images to imgur. First, for some reason, when I try to upload 150 images, which was the max amount I could upload at the same time, the whole thing crashes. Now I can upload just a max of 50 images per gallery. This isn't critical though, I can just make more galleries.

The worst problem is that no image is uploaded at all, it says "an error ocurred while uploading your image". Do you or anybody know a way to make it work? Or another site I can upload the images with the text?

>>152574265
>I destroy the African tribes with streams of blood... Only following this cleansing can something new emerge, which will remain.
A German officer said this on the Herero genocide so yeah, it'd probably become a resettlement colony.
Why did the Germans treat the Tanganyikan natives so much better than their other colonies by the way?

anyone here playing BICE v8.52?

I have only about 100 air units for Barbarossa, 600k troops in HG Nord, 1100k HG Mitte and 1100k in HG Süd.
Am I going to make it against 10-15 million Soviets?

Reserve of various quality troops in West about 500k (garrisons + random troops)

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Ok, USA.

>>152577093
HPM is based.

>>152576779
Axis seem to be doing well in this game. Also what flag is that?

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>>152576478
will it be enough?

>>152577093
reddit is based

>>152577636
Save game and find out.

>>152577636
What is this railroaded micromanagement-hell unnecesary bullshit??

Gentlemen, any guide to make Distant Worlds undifficult?

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I wanna conquer Indonesia, Malaysia and Indonesia as Japan, who do I start with: Shogun or Emperor?

>>152577936
What's the point of that

>>152577938
How the hell do you even make these meme maps

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>>152577524
Not really, this is the map now. I just found it funny how the US began warning the Reich as they were being pushed back on all fronts, and had a few million angry ruskies marching on Berlin. But Italy were doing rather well for themselves, tho.

Also, United Cantons – glorious communist Switzerland.

>>152577938
Shogun in HPM is the most powerful one because he can conquer foreign provinces.

Emperor playthroughs are literally sit there for 20 years and wait for an event.

If you can westernize quickly as Shogun there is literally no downside.

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>>152577795
the one true Hearts of Iron game where the game was designed according to the wishes of the fans. (not according to market strategists)

>>152566445
Control of the North Sea

>>152566474
:^)

>>152566792
they're civilized, i'll give it a try if i my infamy is low enough

is hitlermod done yet?

>>152578047
I don't make them, I just use it to grab you attention

>>152578127
That's a convincing speech. So which uncivs should I get first?

>>152578001
To make it undifficult.

>>152578387
Play Stellaris then and fuck off to the appropiate general >>152555304

>>152578514
Any guide to make it more difficult then?

>>152578313
Probably Indochina like Vietnam and such to minimize western expansion into your future playground.

If Spain or Netherlands don't have allies you can MAYBE steal some of there stuff, I've never tried it.

I don't know how hard Qing are to fight against as another unciv but if you can get them to go into a reactionary spiral then you can just fight them every 5 years.

>>152578613
Download better AI mod.

>>152578619
France gets events in HPM to expand into Vietnam so the more westerners you can deny the better.

Once you westernize Spain and the Dutch are piss easy to defeat if they don't have a ton of allies.

>>152579304
what are you goals

>>152579329
I can't talk about them sorry.

has HOI4 been fixed yet?

Ngl by now all I want is a NWO mod that is actually balanced politically and economically, more interactive and has decent, not half assed reforms.
Why don't we edit NWO to make it better instead of rushing for a ebin nazi mod? For starters, city and monument provinces should all be tiny, there should be less RGOs, there should be a shopkeeper POP, monument provinces should have a "Tourism" RGO which would be just a slightly less OP version of gold mines, reforms should be far more detailed and so on.

>>152579776
Based

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srsly

How do you westernize in Vicky? Are you supposed to fight a lot to raise your westernization mana? Or just sit on speed 5 and promote intellectuals?

>>152580085
You're not supposed to play as uncivs

>>152579949
honestly the cost for one unciv to annex another should be way lower, to think that Europeans would give a shit if Mongo annexes Congo, or even be aware that such a war happened in the first place, is ridiculous.

>>152580085
get the war techs that let you get more mana on conquest and then conquer but also raise literacy because that will help when you need to industrialize and get strong

>>152580140
I know but if I am forced to, what do I do?

>>152580289
Okay thanks.

>>152580292
Pick an unciv with as few state as possible so you can actually increase your literacy

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>>152580264
i want to get the Philippines for 16.5 infamy, should I go now that they don't have ally or wait to see if they fall to Carlists unstoppably?

also
>japan starts with no tech to get rps when yo uconquer shit
>22 infamy to conquer unciv OPM where the yuros don't even have maps

>>152580510
I'm trying to play as Persia

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What do you think guys? It's in HPM.

Should I take anything else? Trying to recreate Napoleons empire, plus the French colonies he gave to the USA

1/3

>>152580602
persia has lots of neat flavour

>>152577938
Reminder that if you start out as the Shogunate you can typically westernize in 10-20 years and unite the country peacefully if you research State and Government before the Boshin War.

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>>152580547
>y*nks can take neither banter nor reality
What a surprise

>>152580652
How much did you save scum to have this little infamy?

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That's the USA fighting the UK

Anything else I should take?

2/3

>>152580652
Get Haïti and free Poland. Maybe have a puppet Italy/NGF? Puppet Naples and palce Murat back on the throne. Conquer Egypt and build Suez so that Nappy can be proud.

>>152580687
you mean university reform?

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Not so sure of this.

Does it look right?

3/3

>>152580986
you know you could have just played Napoleon's Legacy right?

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>>152580652
>>152580820
>>152580986

>>152580837
I plan to free Poland. Already have Haiti, check photo 3

Naples is a great power can't really puppet them yet, have to wait for Japan or China to become one.

I have Egypt in my Sphere will build the Sue when I can. Should I annex more of it?

>pick Austria
>France ally the UK
>Russia refuse to ally me
Uh how am I supposed to beat the Prussia

>>152580780
Saved

>>152581074
Haven't heard of it

>>152581119
why?

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>>152581317
This is the starting position of the mod

>>152579949

i would restart desu senpai

>>152581482
Nice!

Will check it out thanks!

know where I can get it from?

>>152581571
It's has been added to the OP
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

Is Napoleon's not being worked on anymore (again)?

>>152581770
No the modder died

>>152581876
So should I take it or not?

>>152581935
Sure, it's a good mod, it just won't be updated in the future.

>>152579949
Could be worse

>playing Bukhara
>maybe I should get sea access
>fabricate on OPM Makran (population: 35k)
>21.9 infamy

I can just imagine the GPs frothing at the mouth at the thought of the poor people of Makran suffering under foreign oppression and the collapse of the balance of power while cutting up African in the most unaesthetic ways possible.

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>>152582138
>Turkestan
>sea access
Bet you're the type of person who does the same with Czechoslovakia as well

>>152582138
Infamy should be depending on the continent, France invading and annexing one of the German minors should be a huge issue, but no one should give a fuck about some Asian or Latin American shitholes killing each other.

>>152582435
That's a retarded idea.

>>152582435
It should be just like agressive expansion in EU4, depending on distance and also above some magical value nations should enter coalitions against you, considering coalitions make more sense in this time era than in 1500.

>>152582435
>but no one should give a fuck about some Asian or Latin American shitholes killing each other.
ah yes the absolute state of neo/gsg/ intellectuals

>>152582561
It makes historical sense though. No one gives a shit about Africa, Asia or Latin America.

>>152582879
It doesn't.
They do.

It's the beginning of globalization. The UK and France dicked in almost every war or conflict in south america and they did the same in Asia. Boxer War, the second opium war, Perry's intervention in Japan. The great game.
Honestly, you are retarded.

Do we know if Reaper's Due will be usable or not with old saves ?

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>attack Soviets with 100 planes
>they respond with 500 planes

And there goes the German air superiority
it's overrated anyway

>>152582412
Hey, gotta reduce those import costs.

Besides, Makran just pisses me off.

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oohhh, i get it: the territories I got from army reform + conquering isn't worth the rp I would have with great literacy? so why isn't Imperial Japan the fastest?

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>>152583154
LITERALLY WHAT'S THE POINT OF THIS SHIT, A FEW MEME ILLNESS EVENTS AND NOTHING MORE, EVERY INTERESTING ASPECT IS IN THE FREE PATCH YOU FUCKING KEK, HOLY SHIT KILL YOURSELF.

>>152582718
If you play as the USA and try to enact Manifest Destiny manually, that is, using the acquire state casus belli, you incur in a lot of infamy, maybe forcing the Great Powers to intervene, but if you use the decision you incur in zero infamy, and the great powers don't give a fuck even though both situations have the same result, the game already gives you decisions to bypass the arbitrary infamy mechanic.
>>152583039
Spheres of influence and the ability the GP have to intervene in wars near their frontiers already simulate that, infamy is supposed to simulate contention wars against European powers, like Germany getting too gross, not against Argentina for having annexed Chile for example.

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>>152582879
The only times this makes sense is when you're a landlocked African/Asian nation with no westernized powers neighbouring you.
Latin America has always been a huge consumer of British and French goods and there were also obvious American interest in keeping their neighbours in check, and LA wasn't ever nignog tier either.
When it comes to Asia, you must be retarded if you think the UK would allow Persia to expand up to modern day Pakistan and completely block them from being part of the Great Game as all of Central Asia would technically be shared between an unciv and Russia. They'd keep their eyes out for everyone in Asia: Siam expanding on the Johor peninsula, Japan interferring in China violently before Meiji and so on. Oman was even divided by the UK shortly before the game started, the Trucial States are a ln artificial nation created by the British
For Sub-Saharan Africa, it sort of makes sense, but the UK and Portugal would definitely not let Zulu become a huge nation by expanding in modern day Mozambique and inner South Africa. Ever.
So you only have a point for Turkestan before Russia and the UK knocks on their door and West Sub-Saharan Africa, not counting Nigeria after the Lagos seize and Ghana/Ashanti, which the British always had an interest on. Even in these exceptions, Great Powers can't declare containment wars against landlocked uncivs they don't share a border with, so in Turkestan's and most of West Africa's case, it'd be just tribal coalitions, which is perfectly reasonable.

>>152583184
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_South_America#British_and_French_interventions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chincha_Islands_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_intervention_in_Mexico
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_crisis_of_1895
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Pacific#Domestic_policies_until_the_Fall_of_Lima
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Just to cite a few.

Asia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formosa_Expedition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_expedition_to_Korea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Campaign_against_Korea,_1866
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kabul_(1842)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivory_Coast_Expedition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Opium_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_Rebellion

Africa and ME:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Expedition_to_Abyssinia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatari%E2%80%93Bahraini_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos_Colony
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trucial_States#The_1820_treaty

The problem with you /pol/tards is that, besides having the a teenager knowledge of history, you keep drinking your kool-aid and believing in boogeymen.
Trade was going all around the word and the GPs where keen on protecting and expanding their trade, so what happened in a lot of countries was directly related to their interests.

>>152583928
>already simulate that,
They didn't intervene only in wars in spherelings.

>infamy is supposed to simulate contention wars against European powers
Infamy is supposed to simulate how much you fuck up that other countries want yo fuck you up. Uncivs already get a 80% bonus to speed because they don't attract as much attention as civs.

>>152583039
Only when it served their purposes. The Great Game between Russia and Britain was to keep the other from gaining too much influence with the Central Asians (Britain wanted to protect India, Russia wanted to protect their central-southern underbelly). The Boxer War was punitive, as the Boxers did sort of seize the foreign embassies and cause a diplomatic crisis that had to be answered (lest the involved nations lose face).

The UK and France did not involve themselves with "all " South American wars (War of the Pacific, Uruguayan War, War of the Triple Alliance, etc.). You're thinking more of the USA.

Perry's trip to Japan was to open up more markets for the US to sell to, among other reasons. That wasn't a conflict (Boshin War was a bit later).

Spheres of influence sum up the whole thing of intervention, infamy is just a bit ridiculous. There were no "containment wars" against any perceived "uncivs" during the period and it's doubtful that the GPs would've cared if a couple of OPMs got annexed or not (I find it ridiculous that Prussia seizing Bohemia incurs less infamy than Vietnam conquering Indonesian OPMs).

>>152584215
>The problem with you /pol/tards is that, besides having the a teenager knowledge of history, you keep drinking your kool-aid and believing in boogeymen.
It was most likely a falseflag mate, there are lots of people like him. When somebody says something they disagree with they just spur out shit like SJW, reddit etc, just a part of shitposters. Started rather recently

>>152584029
>>152584215
>wasting time with retarded shitposters

>>152584375
>Started rather recently
Not really, Radical Bronyslavia did it all the time. Ironically, many of those who were in the group were redditors as well.

>>152584215
>he actually took the obvious bait and wasted that much time on making up a serious reply

lmao what a literal autist, are you german by chance?

>>152584285
I didn't say they involved themselves in all wars, I said they did it in most. If not directly blockading something by influencing governments.
If you think GPs didn't care about these places you honestly don't know 19th century history very well.

The US actually interfered less in SA until the late 19th - early 20th century than the UK and France.

>Perry's trip to Japan was to open up more markets for the US to sell to
Yes, that's the whole point. Most interventions where either for prestige or money reasons. If you think they didn't care about making money, you are also retarded.

>Spheres of influence sum up the whole thing of intervention,
No, it doesn't. Japan wasn't in the US sphere.

>There were no "containment wars" against any perceived "uncivs" during the period
There were no containment wars against anyone in the period.

> (I find it ridiculous that Prussia seizing Bohemia incurs less infamy than Vietnam conquering Indonesian OPMs).
It doesn't. An unciv justifies 80% faster, getting full infamy is hard. You can annex full states and have 1-2 infamy. But pretending the GPs would ignore the rise of a big empire in Asia which could challenge their economic interests just because "it's in Asia" is retarded.

>>152584408
I wonder why I'm replying too.

>>152584798
>I was merely pretending
Classic.

>>152584798
>it was merely an act

>>152584910
It's the standard response of retards
>gets proven wrong
>I was merely pretending

>>152584824
>>152584910
>being unironically this buttblustered because you realised you wasted your time like an idiot

>>152584824
>But pretending the GPs would ignore the rise of a big empire in Asia which could challenge their economic interests just because "it's in Asia" is retarded.

Ah, no, I'm not saying "do away with infamy." I just think that it should scale a bit more depending on population, provinces in the state, etc. etc. And maybe also depending on the conquering nation's size and number of cores. Of course the GPs had a vested interest in intervening in conflicts (money and markets, after all) but having flat amount per CB is still a bit jarring (since that means the infamy for conquering Sindh= infamy for conquering Makran when Sindh is significantly bigger and more populated).

>It doesn't. An unciv justifies 80% faster, getting full infamy is hard. You can annex full states and have 1-2 infamy.
But the potential to get fucked is still there. If you get caught halfway (within two months), you still take more infamy than most regular CBs. And, no matter how you slice it, OPMs like Makran or Lanfang or the like weren't that significant in the bigger picture.

>>152585426
>I just think that it should scale a bit more depending on population, provinces in the state, etc. etc
The only thing should escalate to is how isolated you are. Since justifying CBs represents your ability to create an "incident" that justifies aggression, if you are in the middle of the jungle in sub-saharan africa no one should know if that happens. Luckily there are few to no case where that applies - it would arguably only apply to central asia but they were already raiding and enslaving russians which brought upon them the attention of at least a GP.

> (since that means the infamy for conquering Sindh= infamy for conquering Makran when Sindh is significantly bigger and more populated).
Infamy was never a measure of how valuable whatever shit you are conquering is and making it that way would be a nightmare. Besides value is relative. For Turkestan, Makran is pretty valuable as a port and sea access to a country is invaluable. A coaling station can also be very valuable even if it's an island with basically no economical value, which is what led the UK to try and take Socotra.
Justifying CBs is a measure of how convincing is your ploy for a war, regardless of what you are planning, with the exception maybe of the scope, so justifying a reason to puppet isn't the same thing as conquest.

>But the potential to get fucked is still there.
It's way less likely but yes, it's still there. If China was preparing an incident to conquer Japan and it was caught red handed doing it, there would be a big potential for international repercussions.
If Bukhara was doing the same with Kokand, Russia would also keep an eye out to use it as an excuse to annex them.

>If you get caught halfway (within two months), you still take more infamy than most regular CBs.
If you get caught halfway you get roughly the same thing as getting a state.

>>152576097
I have no idea, since the imgur update a couple weeks ago it's been ass. I've had to reupload albums where there were only 3 images and it failed, because it wouldn't create an album if only one image didn't upload properly.

I don't know of any alternate sites, unfortunately; hopefully another anon can help out if you continue having trouble.

>>152588168
>ban evading

>>152588312
I didn't get banned

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Prussian generals are fucking scary. Gonna form SGF and genocide my slavs.

>>152588363
Why would you even get banned? What did you do?

epic meme lads, really made me think

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So i'm thinking about getting EUIV while it's on sale. What are some of the must have dlcs for it?

>>152588168
>>152588292
>>152588385
>>152588443
>>152588658
>>152588727
>>152588772
>>152588864
what game?

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>>152589483

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FINISH YOU'RE MOD
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>>152565672
Can you run the pirated mods for CKII in the hastebin on a normal, functioning Steam version? Or will you get caught out?

>>152589682
Yes

>>152589664
>YOU'RE MOD

No, you are.

>>152589682
DO NOT DO THIS, YOUR GAME WILL BE LOCKED OFF, IT HAPPENED TO ME WITH CONCLAVE A FEW MONTHS BACK.

Your account might be closed too according to what I've read on forums, but it didn't happen to me thankfully.

>>152589765
Y-yes to being caught out, or yes to it working?

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What should I pass /gsg/? Health care or school system?

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>>152589664
MEANT FOR >>152588787

>>152589927
>>152589850
This desu

>>152575351
Source?
Holodomor was a genocide against counter-revolutionaires and People's Republic of Ukraine separatists. Do you know why Donbass chimped out? Because this region suffered the most from Holodomor and because of that government settled empty houses with Russians, and they were a majority there.

>>152589927
Expect a SWAT team and barricade your door.

>>152589850
Fuck. I just want my friend to get all the dumb graphical facepacks. I've already whaled pretty much every DLC for this game

>>152589934
Child labour

>>152589934
Are you an idiot? Always, ALWAYS GET THE HEALTHCARE REFORMS FIRST.

>>152589934
transportation

>>152589934
School system for assimilation bonus.

>>152589934
Working hours

>>152590081
Why though it seems to give me good bonuses.

>>152590128
Yeah but my education is kinda shit also assimilation bonuses.

>>152590128
why?

>>152589934
No draft

>>152590247
Then you just max your education spending, get 4% clergymen in every state and get the Darwinism invention in the 50s.

There's absolutely no excuse to not rush the healthcare reforms and the safety regulation reforms ASAP if you want to stay as a competitive GP. Do not EVER go for anything else first. Especially in 1847 when socialism hasn't been unlocked yet, having +0,02% pop growth from the first healthcare reform that early on is a massive advantage.

>>152590587
>Never RP!
t. 100% taxes and tariffs pro

How the dicks do I find CK2+?

Is the shitty steamgroup https://steamcommunity.com/groups/ck2plus up to date? Because it looks dead as shit, and I can't find the mod anywhere else.

>>152590587
W-what does safety regulation does anon? Also when did HPM change all these fucking reforms I don't remember them being like this last time I played.

>>152590587
Why the safety regulations my lad and up to which level? The highest?

>>152590697
Yeah, no RP my ass. By the mid to late game I can typically maintain a good welfare state with little to no taxes for poor/middle strata pops, often with plenty of negative tariffs too. Along with a military large enough to be #1 for most of the game.

>>152590724
>>152590758
The last safety regulations reform is extremely important as it gives you +0,01% pop growth. Get it after you get all the healthcare reforms.

>>152591006
Why the negative tariffs though? Just to make your pops more content?

>>152591231
As you get more inventions, the demand of goods for your pops increases significantly. Even if you have 0% taxes for your poor and middle strata, you'll notice that they'll have it hard to fulfill most of their everyday needs, regardless if they're working in a profitable factory/RGO or not.

Having negative tariffs makes goods more affordable for everyone in your country. Most of the world market works depending if pops can actually afford what they want so it basically also encourages industry.

Anyone got any DL links of some Victoria 2 mods besides the ones in the OP?

>>152590704
Stop your victoriautism and answer me REEEEEE

>>152591481
Well, I'm not keen on subsidizing my competitor's industry.

>>152591612
literally in the OP.

>>152592113
You can just overtake them easily anyway. Getting ~7000 industry score by 1935 is not hard if you're not playing as a pathetic meme country or using laissez faire, only the UK might get close to that and you can bet that their industry won't be efficient at all.

>>152592307
Thanks, anon. I did look, just missed it.

>>152591586
The ones in the archive

>>152589092
Art of War, Common Sense, Cossacks maybe.
Why don't you just get the dlc for free

>>152575351
>>152590024
Never forget the 600 gorillion Ukranians starved to death in the Holodomor you evil Russians!