/evn/ - English Visual Novels

>>152534963
Isn't this from the same guy who did Cafe Memoria?

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>>152534963
Thank you anon. Have a tutturu~.

>>152534963
I'm mad because the sprite and side image don't match

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>>152535180
It's also the same guy who created this cancner.
A dev we should all envy.

>>152535247
this happens all the time in VNs with side images. Even professionally made Japanese ones. It's maddening. It's bad enough they insist on having the same character twice on the screen but at least have them match, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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>>152535247
It triggers me as well, but plenty of JVN have that same issue.
>>152535226
Thanks, have some more cancer.

>>152470742
> is the EVN scene actually as small as it seems or is there just a low concentration of developers to players?
It will seem smaller than it is if you only look on LSF or /evn/ — there's quite a few developers who primarily share outside these places, such as on Twitter or gamedev communities.

>>152477175
> Leaves and grasses are my biggest problem right now. It's not really a matter of making it but, rather, making it look 2D.
Depends on what kind of 2D style you want. If it's a heavily stylised look you want, consider that many artists don't actually draw/paint individual blades of grass, nor individual leaves (unless they're in the extreme foreground).

> How you make the AO affect the leaves might be a trade secret so I'd refrain from asking that.
In the recent country road BG I did there's no AO on the leaves. I rendered the AO pass for the full scene but didn't apply it. Instead I saved it separately, rendered an mask for the bike, and applied the AO to just the bike in Photoshop.

AO is just a rendering trick that doesn't take materials into account. Shadows will still work properly though. Blender Internal has an option you need to check called "receive transparent shadows" (or something like that.) The catch is you need to check this option on the material that's having an alpha masked material cast shadows onto it. Not the actual alpha masked material itself (although checking it on that is a good idea too!)

FWIW I used Blender Internal for the forest BG you linked above but I used Cycles for the recent country road BG.

> I know for a fact I used an edge split modifier there a while ago (see the above pics). It must've been gone the moment I joined it with the other objects for array purposes.
Yeah, if you select a bunch of objects one of them will be the 'active object' (it has a slightly lighter highlight than the others). When you join those objects together the resulting object will have all the modifiers of the active object.

when will evn's get their own shindol?

>>152536125
shindol is american, so all he'd have to do is create a vn himself

>>152536125
>>152536286

at least tag that shit so I can avoid it.

>warning: contains babyfucking and slut breaking but with extra seriousness

>>152535247
>>152535547
Are these perchance reused CG from a JVN?

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>>152536575
there's a single panel of xray of an 8month preggo whore. don't be a bitch

>>152536693
Yup, he did that with 2 different projects:
https://vndb.org/v12002
https://vndb.org/v12003

>>152536778
this
go to /lgbt/ fagface

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>>152535454
Eiyuu senki was the worst one I've seen yet. Only the side images had different expressions.

>>152534963
>two different faces
Why?

>>152537029
With having a huge a cast as that title did, I can understand cutting corners like that.

>>152537029
yeah that's the one I had in mind. Was playing through it recently and every time the dialogue came up all I could think about was how jarring the sprite expressions were because of it

>>152537029
Yumina does the same thing.
I can understand the double sprite thing, specially with widescreen textboxes that would be too long otherwise. It gives you the speaker quickly instead of relying in color-coded naming shit, or zooming in the sprites, which gets tiresome after a while. But at least they should make the expressions match.

We hadn't even hit limit yet and you managed to get someone to newthread? What alternate dimension is this?

>>152536778
>>152536940

glad im not fucked up like you fags. That shit made my boner go soft and killed it for me.

>>152537670
The one where EVNs are considered the real deal and JVNs are considered subpar imitations due their low production values.

>>152537991
if only
the only western evn company managing to comfortably (keyword) stay aloat are winged cloud, and even then people are starting to get real tired of their shtick, after what, the 11th iteration of the sakura series?

>>152538148
I'm more than comfortably afloat, thanks.

>>152538647
go to bed Hanako.

>>152538906
was going to respond with 'go to bed winterwolves'
then i remembered they're broke
kek

>>152539665
They are? What happened?

>>152540106
Just some of his tweets.

>>152540106
https://twitter.com/pcmacgames/status/767232303248576512

>>152541762
classic ww whining about his failing games.

inb4 polling 'why my game didn't sell well?'

>>152542691
The art is quite uggo. Loren had the luck of having the best artist and best writer working on it

Anyone knows of a not too common germanic name apt for a little girl?

>>152543939
Lisa?

Will my game about Taiwanese idols be popular? ;_;

>>152544402
Post?

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Shadman should draw CG for a VN

>>152544376
Hm, more widespread globally than I intended but cute nonetheless. I'll take it. Thanks m8.

>>152544402
I'll play anything with idols

>>152544402
If you need copy-posting help in renpy, I might be up to it. I like idols.

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Hey, /evn/, how do you like the design of one of our main heroines?

>>152546785
if this is an elaborate trolling attempt - 10/10
if this is serious, let me laugh even harder/10

>>152545181
nty

>>152546785
Go full mermaid and make it a monster gril evn

>>152547318
???

Will I be forever know as "no africa" dev?

>>152548141
Would you prefer "KKK dev"?

>>152547931
her eyes being so far apart from each other and her gaping mouth remind me of the 'am i kawaii uguu' meme. The dead fish hoodie looks awful. She has flippers for feet. The rest of the design is basic bitch as fuck:
-non flattering fivehead hairstyle
-a plain t-shirt
-plain shorts
-non-patterned thigh highs
-no shoes
It's forgettable at best, offensive at worst.

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>>152548301

>>152548536
May have found the root of the problem, instead of bothering to redraw the eyes/eyebrows/mouth, they simply took one and flipped it the other way.

>>152548275
No.

>>152548301
>>152548536
Thanks for the input. I told our artist, will come back with what they have next. We'll see how she looks then.

The only thing I won't compromise on is the fish hood, but otherwise I believe you're right that portions of her design need to be changed. That's why I'm coming here in this stage of her development.

>>152548141
Well get your bg artist to fix it then, you don't want your readers to think the story takes place in an alternate universe do you?

>>152550782
I'll probably need to replace all BGs if he doesn't echo back within the next few months.

>>152546785
Something is fishy about her.

Why is it that 90% of artists working for EVNs complete garbage?

Like, they're below the level of your avarage drawfag on /a/ or /i/

>>152553504
Good artists have patreons and plenty of one-off commissions, so they don't have to work on big projects

>>152553504
Garbage artists are cheaper/more willing to work for free.

>>152545181

>Pillow shading: the VN

>>152551338
You cant contact with him?

>>152554785
Yes.

>>152548301
>moe anime characters are a meme
Are you new?

>>152554785
>contract
Why would you ever trust your personal info to someone from the internet?

>>152554946
>reading comprehension

>>152554946
Two of the artists I've hired had me sign a contract, both only required my real name. They would get that much information from my payment anyway.

>>152555471
>only real name
What's the point then? There's millions of Ahmeds and Muhammads

Contracts are useless, no one's going to sue anyone lmao

>>152555574
Their contracts mostly stated what I can and cannot do with the artwork, they just needed my signature to confirm I understood. I don't really blame them, I had no presence in the dev community when I had hired them.

>>152555798
It would make it easier to ruin my reputation though, producing evidence that I understood the contract but still went against their wishes.

>>152554817
You should start looking for new BG artist right now. He's not coming back for sure.

>>152554817
>>152551338
>>152548141
>hire third worlders
>cry like a little bitch because they ditch you
you deserved it

>>152555471
>artist asking dev to sign contract

There's no way that is a third world artist.

>>152556602
OH gee, whom should I choose?
Proud first worlder, $100-150 for each sprite, $50 for each new pose, $10 for each emotion.
OR
Dirty third worlder, $50-70, all shit included.

>>152557140
you should choose the one who doesn't ditch you.
third worlders have no sense of work discipline or even common decency

>>152557526
>implying 1st world artist doesn't have the same problem

Straving third world artist > first world brat.

>>152557582
>shitty 3rd worlder confirmed.
just fuck off to any filthy hole you crawled from

>>152557648
All artist is scum, but dealing with 1st world brat and their antics is much much more infuriating.

>Thirdworlders are less likely to cause online drama
Any truth to this proposition?

If I use spaces in my filenames, will they cause trouble?! I can't find a clear explanation in the documentation, and I don't want to rename all my 600 images.

>>152561154
Renpy?

>>152561370
yes

>>152561432
Uh, seems like I have bad news...
Apparently, spaces make renpy unable to find the images. Maybe it's my instalation. It's outdated like two years. Try with a new version.
In case you have to change the case, don't do it manually. Google a simple script to rename files and tweak it. I'm sure there are thousands. It will take you 10 minutes to learn how to do it instead of wasting 2 hours doing boring ass renaming. And try if it works with mock files, in case anything goes wrong.

>>152562259
I'm glad I use underscores out of habit or I'd most likely have done that before

>>152545181
god no

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>>152562259
B-but they seem to work, and renpy doesn't give me any warning?!

>>152562470
Could be. As I say, my instalation is fucking prehistoric and it sounds like the kind of annoyance anyone would want to have fixed, so probably they did.

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>>152562613
a man can hope

>>152562470
>>152562613
>>152562665
Literal retards. One unable to press the button "update renpy," the other unable to make a small test of his game.
evn scene, ladies and gentlemen.

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>>152563118
shut the fuck up

>>152556602
He's from down south, senpai. My sprite artist is a from 'murica as well.

>>152563118
I don't even dev anymore, you absolute moron. Downloaded it a few years ago and dicked around a bit, that's it. I hope you are not a writer, because with those reasoning skills you'd make some QUALITY plots.

>>152563383
>I can't check if something works by entering two lines of code and pressing "launch project" button
>but I'll make a long elaborate post on 4chan and hope for a pat on the back
no anon, you're retard.

>>152563939
Okay, you are bored and have anything else to do than shitpost. Fine, I'll bite. Special ed kids like need some love too.

I thought it would work without problem, so just tried it. I'm not going through the bother of updating a program I don't use just to help an anon. Instead, I tried to give him the means to solve it for himself. Anyone beyond a mental age of 15 would have realized on the spot the anon woried about images is most likely an artist, that probably doesn't even have the program installed, since he is asking.

Is it going to die now?

>>152566512
We deserve to

Boobs or butts?

Anyone else following Missing Stars? I've been waiting around for a demo for like 3 years now.

>>152566693
I believe one of the developers posts in here.

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Still Alive. hopefully

>>152566817
>right pinky finger's intermediate phalange is longer than the distal

Oh god...

>>152567282
Let me correct that. All of the right hand's are. Oh god....

>>152537746
You don't have to fap when you read porn, you know. For instance, lots of people read Takotsuboya's stuff not to fap but to feel.

>>152566817
>no ulnar styloids
what the FUCK

Here we go with the ulnars again.

>>152566635
Why not both?

>>152567393
>I'm a great anime wannabe artist and I learn my anatomy and proportions from anime! Fuck studying real-life models! I'm drawing anime and great anime artists never study real-life!

>>152566817
She has a cute smile

>>152566635
I am an ass man.
I am an ass, man, too.

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>>152566817
Barely alive. Don't lose hope

>>152566635
Tits all the way

https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=61&p=425668#p425668

Oui

>>152539665
He's hardly broke, just comparing himself to indies with hit games who are a lot richer.

>>152570361
what is it

>>152570361
>A Plus would be if you can write the script in renpy format without coding.
>renpy format
what

>>152571464
with name "text" as opposed to more script-style Name: Text, I would assume

>>152571331
Somebody supposedly hiring a writer to do a yuri game. naturally they want to make a kickstarter. whether they actually have any money, who knows

>>152570361
that game they made previously looks abysmal

>>152571331
Someone's about to KS another yuri game.

REMOVE YURI

>>152572507
how will devs bandwagon tho?

>>152567282
>>152567372
I didn't notice it until you told me
Thanks a lot for pointing it out, anon
maybe this is what i got for doing too much two phalange fingers

I was riding the yuri wave before it was cool/profitable

>>152573838
But it's not cool/profitable anymore

>>152574159
Tell that to all the bandwagoners

>>152574235
They're in for a rude awakening

>>152574159
Says you. I will make yuri great again.

>>152574490
Needs more aggressive dommes and butches instead of all these delicate lady flowers

>>152575232
as long as they still look cute and not like badly passing trannies

>>152575232
clove pls go

my favorite genre is now a bandwagon for terrible newb opportunists?

feels bad

I feel like going to bed again 2 hours after waking up, is this brain cancer?

>>152577852
I hope you're not my artist

>>152577852
No, it's called being an adult. Try drinking strong green tea or yerba mate if you don't like coffee.

>>152578037
so do I
>>152578167
I knew I should have killed myself after kindergarten, thanks for the tea info though senpai

>>152577852
you're probably close to your period

>>152576816
I like bifauxnen/princely girls, and some people do complain that's too manly in anime terms, although they look nothing like real men.

>>152578775
No prob. I do the same, because coffee is too strong for me and it works like a charm.

Wake up

>>152582674
Mom, stop.

>>152582897
Clean your room

>>152585547
rape incoming?

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>>152585547
a - this is from the girl's POV and the guy is plotting something (and if this is some otomeshit, aren't the men supposed to be the focus)
b - this is from the guy's POV and he's a faceless self-insert about to engage in dickings (in which case this is acceptable)
c - this is from the viewer's POV and he's going to throw her towards the camera or something

>>152585547
The knees are absolutely horrible

>>152588073
can you do better?

what happens if a programmer steals your gui

>>152590590
you come here, you name and you shame

>>152590449
>there are people out there who actually think this is a valid argument

>>152590817
>name and shame
I only remember omniknight. /evn/ is a pussy.

>>152585547
her pinky finger looks really long for a finger, especially a woman's

>>152590849

I dunno, /evn/ seems flooded with armchair nodevs who are too afraid to post their own shit because they know what they make is no better and they too will be torn apart by armchair nodevs.

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>>152591298
I'm writing right now and I'm really good at it!

What's more important? Story or art?

>>152590849
It can be but only to the right question, which this isn't.
If you're describing a years-long project and the decisions and compromises you've to get to your final result, and then some kid pipes in with 'yeah but its still shit tho', then 'okay YOU make a game!' is a reasonable response.

Of course, when it comes to art, sometimes you ask "can you do better?" because you'd like to hire an artist who actually can do better

>>152548536
>>152546785
>>152548301
Do we hate cute girls now? Calling this offensive is a retarded over exaggeration.

>>152592032
>if you want sales
art
>if you want diginity
story

>>152592736
>that thing
>cute
what are you, the dev?

>>152592032
Both are important.

>>152590449
Yes, I can. The whole bottom body is absolutely horrible and broken. It's easy to see that the artist doesn't draw legs very often. The legs are also screwed up and twisted under an awkward angle - they don't link with the hips in an anatomically possible way. It seems that the artist didn't even draw the body silluette and matched it with clothes. It looks more like he drew a skirt and then 'let's put legs somewhere here".

>>152593552
It's generic, sure, but offensive is a silly over exaggeration. Hell if the mouth was closed and the eyes a bit smaller it'd be fine.

>>152594001
>>152593552
And I'll be honest, I've seen far worse art in evn's, this doesn't even register compared to a lot of horse shit you find. And I like the fish hat.

>>152585547
Her head's so big it's almost a caricature.

>>152594116
>>152594001
>generic
>I've seen far worse
Going from that to cute is a huge stretch.

>>152595008
The fish hoodie is cute. Her face is generic. Honestly it's not the clothing design that's the problem. A bit more detail and a change to the face and it'd be fine.

Yo, there's a difference between nitpicking and having that attitude.

My experience with getting critiqued by /evn/

>post art
>anons: fucking kill yourself faggot u suck
>I would like to know why you dislike the art, a proper critique is helpful
>anons: Here's why you suck...
>anons list details, some of which are useful, some actually red line it for you
>Thank you anons for helping!
>anons: no problem, come back any time.
>post new art
>anons: Oh, hello there previous drawfag, let's take a look at your art here...

it's harsh at first, but the critiquers here tend to chill out once you prove you're not a "Buh it's muh style" type of artist and they really like it if you post your art with new edits that show you listened to them.

that being said, I think some of the artists here really do have a good style despite others telling them to fix it, so to me, it's a subjective critique

>>152595215
>>152595263
It's just backlash and overreaction. A lot of it is harsh but at least somewhat useful. A lot of it is nodevs who hate devs, which is a mixed bag.

It's telling the difference that you need to learn.

>>152595619

If you wanna say "it's shit" say why in the same post. Otherwise, it looks flamey and this is someone who hasn't posted assets here yet.

>>152595894
>flamey
Seriously?

>>152596028
Rape?

>>152595263
/evn/ is unfortunately a small, generally unhelpful, and spiteful community. Most claim to be devs, most don't dev and lash out at those who do. It's a shitty vicious cycle because the more hostile the environment is to devs the less nodevs want to be devs.

>>152597052
You say unfortunately, yet you still remain here.

>>152597052
I actually prefer to get critiqued by /evn/ moreso than any other board/thread on 4chan. Compared to them, /evn/ has been more helpful to me.

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>>152597504
I will do my best to break you down and make you cry, followed by you trying to be better in the future

>>152597908
one day, i will be as godly as Sakimichan

>>152597908
See, other threads are both better at this and less asshats about it. /evn/ isn't even very knowledge and gives mostly opinion rather than evidence based critique. It's people arguing for personal taste a good 50% of the time. People here don't have a lot of technical knowledge and merely have their toes in the water of 3-4 pools.

>>152598037
Not to say she's shit, but I still can't wrap my head around how she got so wildly successful. I can think of a ton of artists at or above her skill level that people don't throw their life savings at. Was it just timing?

>>152598409
>other threads are both better at this and less asshats about it.

which ones? Don't tell me /ic/ or /co/'s webcomic thread.

>>152598597

One thing people overlook is that a lot of art appeals more to other artists, and most art appeals to a general audience. Sakimichan has general appeal, she's good at what she does but her fanbase doesn't care about how 'technical' something might be.

>>152598597
she got several things:

>timing, long time artist that has been around for a while when Deviantart was still popular
>fan art all day, every day
>one of the higher tier artists who can draw pretty damn well

some of her pieces are sloppy and she obviously drew them while being rushed and trying to move on to her next drawing, but damn, it still looks good.

>>152598884
/agdg/ for all its retardation is more knowledgeable and only a bit more cancerous.

Any evn with cute stuff?

>>152601526
That one evn with a dream bunny or some shit, I forgot

>>152601526
Not a single one, sorry.

>>152601526
mine.

>>152601526
define cute.

like what? G rated?

>>152601526
cute = loli, right?
strawberry vinegar, a little lily princess

>>152603284
why do people keep hiring that artist.

>>152603471
what other games did they work on besides that "inspired by Nitro-Chiral" game?

>>152599148
Does she draw fullbody artwork at all?

>>152605253
she only tends to do them for her m/m or f/f pictures to show off two characters going at it.

Otherwise, it's much easier for an artist to produce lots and lots of fan art by just doing torso shots.

>>152603589
sentimental trickster? that's another one.

This is the same as 7KPP.

>>152603471
>>152605896

well judging by their work, it seems like they finish what they've been assigned to do and stick around throughout the whole project. A rare trait in a artist.

>>152606168
If I didn't hate the style, then yeah, their record for actually getting shit done is a high recommendation

>>152607190
It would look better without that swirly stuff. Other than that it looks fine.

>>152607190
>no masturbate option

>>152607190
Take another look at the girl, she looks off.

>>152607570
It's from a long-dead project I dredged up on LSF partly to see if anyone knows what happened to her

Hello Fujo.

>>152597052
Yet you keep coming here, retard. Duck off, literally not a single person will miss you or know you're gone.
>boohoo they made fun of muh amateur Polynesian power point presentation, meanies, the lot of them

>>152610774
But will they fuck?

>>152610774
I like that textbox, it's interesting.
Was it pain in the ass to code it?

>>152611249
>Duck off
lel

>>152610774
This is one of the most pleasant looking GUIs I've seen in a evn. I like how the CG is center stage and the text box compliments it.

Also sauce?

>>152610774
His neck shadow looks weird, I thought it was a beard at first.

>>152614202
The shadows that run alongside our car:
https://loxrain.itch.io/shadows

i'm actually surprised it's a finished game.

>jp vn setting in america
>everyone is japanese
See, you guys aren't so different!

>>152616582
What

>>152617603
https://vndb.org/v19743

>>152607190
Isn't this School's Out? Is it back on dev yet?

I just got the worst idea for a plot ever.

>group of individuals forced into a contract via implants that will kill them if they disobey
>told that the game will be divided into detectives and murderers, each round having a different number of them
>murderers can not kill detectives
>detectives can kill murders
>capturing or killing a murderer guarantees you a spot on the detective side on the next round
>failing to kill someone as a murderer kills you
>more people are brought in each round to keep the number constant
>each side is given different resources/safe houses
>every morning murderers are told where every detective currently is, detectives don't know where murderers are
>main character starts as a detective

>>152620756
So edgy Mafia: the VN?

>>152620872
Essentially, yes.

I can already see three of the big moments.

>main character fails, is forced to be a murderer, friend also fails
>murderer during this time is in reversed role with MC as detective, can finally kill him
>friends grabs MC's knife and uses it to kill self, saving MC and making him a detective again

>moment where next round entity makes everyone who isn't the MC a murderer, and makes killing the MC a get out of jail free card

>murderer goes after MC's family
>MC's father ends up beating murderer to death himself

>MC drawn into massive conspiracy about why the fuck this is happens, turns out it's lovecraftian bullshit

> translating spanish
> editing spanish translation

somebody kill me please.

>>152622169
But /evn/ would lose one dev.

>>152622169
There, there. Everything will be daijoubu.

Everyone went to sleep?

>>152627562
About to eat lunch.

>>152619906
I have no idea what became of her, I just happened to be looking her up, noticed no updates in forever, and used that screenshot for a random post

The fuck, I slept until 8 pm am I dying?

>>152632202
>am I dying?
At what time did you go to sleep?

>>152632317
Around 6 AM.

>>152622053
>>152620756
Would this make the idea better or worse?

>everyone gets a power assigned in their first round. The power is based on whether they are a Detective or Murderer. The Murderer powers are all combat/stealth based. The detective powers are all hunting/tracking based.

>killing another player give you there power
>murderers can not kill detective, but they can kill each other
>detectives can kill each other or murderers
>there is a detective who immediately kills three other detectives

>>152632613
Well that just means you're nocturnal, and probably sleep-deprived if you slept for fourteen hours.

>>152632202
I went to bed at 12am and slept till 9:30pm
i know that feelio

>>152632613
wow, a fellow idiot

What are the major issues with tyrannobuilder again?

>>152595263
>some actually red line it for you
Extremely rare. There are only a handful of anons here who know how and/or bother to give a proper critique. Explaining the negatives while reinforcing the positives, all while maintaining an objective, unbiased stance, is a rare gift in /evn/. Bonus points if "shit" and "ulnar styloids" are nowhere to be found in the post.
Unless you're critiquing the SC2VN sequel, then ulnar styloids are fair game and bringing them up is highly encouraged.

Are sex scenes worth it?

>>152637346
Is that even a question?

>>152636276
It's riddled with odd bugs and crashes, for example on a game I tried out clicking too fast caused me to enter an infinite loop of text. If you want a good reason to never use it, look up NewWestGames shit.

The biggest problem with Tyrano I personally found is that it is fucking painful to build your game in. If your game is like 10 minutes long, maybe it isn't so bad. But otherwise everything you can do in renpy with a few lines of text will take you 2x as long in Tyrano. The only benefit is live2d support, but it will never be enough for me to use that trash.

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Shitty paint-over for no one but myself and maybe anyone else who gives a shit.

I love Auro's art, but the faces always seem off to me. I played with it a bit and here's what I found.

>Light sources are mismatched
The face shadow and the hair highlights are on the same side. Just changing it so the highlights match where the light is coming from on the face made it more cohesive.
>Face anatomy
Pretty obvious one for most people, but in words, her features are largely placed on a flat plane instead of a 3D sphere. Generally leads to long faces.
>Head
The above applies, but the head seemed to be in a different direction than the face. The face looks to the side, the head is straight on.
>Who gives a shit
Anyway, in case it'd help anyone, I tried to show what I meant in hopes that if anyone needs to critique something in the future, they have a reference for at least these problems.
>Your version looks worse/shitter/etc
Sorry dudes. If you like Auro's art as-is, perfect! But this is my POV on how to make faces a bit nicer.

>>152638849
hi nitpick anon

>>152639161
I only nitpick if I have something to show for it, that's my ninja way.

>>152638849
I think it looks far better than the original

the angle is much more convincing and things don't feel as squashed

>>152639408
its why I respect you more than all the other tryhards

>>152639408
only your own art is objectively worse than any of these artists you're trying to 'nitpick'

>>152638849
which one is yours and which one is hers?

>>152640414
Left's mine, the right is the original as seen >>152610774 .

>>152640604
yeah i like yours better.

Got an asset you'd like to post? I'd like to see.

>>152632202
>>152632613
>>152633901

I'm so glad I got out of that nasty habit. A steady day job helped me stay on track.

>>152641153
Not at the moment, sorry! I'm focusing on writing my own project and I do things like redlines/paintovers for another, which I can't show.

>>152641307
boy do I envy you

>tfw you want nitpick-anon to QA your art assets.

>i don't have any writing samples but please spill full details on this writing job to me

kys if you can't even manage a 1000 word sample laying around

>>152643154
>tfw when someone says this but doesn't post anything

>>152643295
Got nothing new senpai.

> https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=61&p=425776#p425776

look who

>>152644024
literally who? and what happened?

>>152643284
They actually contacted you without a sample? Is this a common thing?

I mean it took me two hours to write that stupid tomato story a few threads back, it was around 2k words not including the rough outline. It would have been another two for polish and editing. How can you be so lazy to not spend a few hours to have a sample, yet think you can write for someone else?

>>152644024
Good ole Omniknoght.

>>152644024
Did they finally ban his other identity after he tried to scam some money recently? I never got to see the thread since a mod hid it.

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>>152644274
>I mean it took me two hours to write that stupid tomato story a few threads back, it was around 2k words
>It would have been another two for polish and editing

>>152644569
It was a quick thing, lacked structure and direction. If I was going to use it as a sample I'd rewrite it a few more times.

>>152644024
>Omniknight
Look who's back.

>>152644698
My reaction was the opposite

How does it take you that long for 2k words

>>152644569
who the fuck takes just as long as their initial writing to edit and polish it?

>draw for 40 min
>its shit
>can't do 3d shapes to correctly apply facial features
>used to draw awesome and feel good

okay, i just need to keep shitting out bad drawings until the turd passes through, right?

>>152638849
>Pretty obvious one for most people, but in words, her features are largely placed on a flat plane instead of a 3D sphere. Generally leads to long faces.

personally, this issue is the bane of my drawing abilities. Something is always off about the faces I draw, and I'm pretty sure its because I can't seem to get in 3D mode.

Will post something tomorrow.

>>152645453
I like to do gesture drawings when I'm in a rut, so yeah. Shit out 30 sec turds over and over and you'll get through it.

>>152645639
I like forward to seeing it anon! I'll give feedback if you'd like as well.

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so how good an idea is this if i'm not sure how much of a scumbag I could be as an artist?:

>get aboard project as artist
>work out a deal with the creator
>not sure if I can stick around long term
>so I'll do the assets for free
>if I actually manage to stick around and finish the game with the assets
>then I ask to get paid for each asset

bad idea? shit idea?

>>152645859
thanks anon, much appreciated.

>>152645925
get out of here and never come back
better yet, remove yourself from this world

>>152644904
Okay, I lied. I just opened it and it was 1.2k words.

Anyway, the speed of the tomato story was most likely due to not giving a shit how good it was during initial draft, since it was only going to be posted under Anonymous and was in response to an anon who called me out.

I had done a rough but somewhat detailed outline, so I knew exactly what I wanted the MC to experience by the time he reached the ending, the outline for each scene paved the way to a fairly quick progression, as there was no guessing or thinking, just flowing into the next scene while playing it out in my head.

I do reach a similar rate on my actual stuff as well, but it doesn't save me much time. I spend an insane amount of time outlining and planning, to the point I believe it has been more of a hindrance on my project.

>>152645301
Do you mean it should take less or more time?

My process for editing and polishing something that I need to be proud of is a complete rewrite. I don't pick and choose, as when I start changing things I end up getting into a flow which will end up having me change everything beyond my edit. Which is why I only write for myself, as I'm sure this would frustrate anyone I work with.

>>152646008
It should take far less. It's insane.
>complete rewrite
If your initial work isn't even considered good enough by your own standards to be used as a rough framework to continue off of, stop writing.

>>152646121
It works for me, I'm still working under a strict outline.

>>152646121
I have a friend who rewrites the same sentence because of autism, even if it sound good for the reader. Some people just take it slow, it's fine.

>>152646452
>>152647017
Dear diary,
Today I learned that different methods work for different people, and I ought to be more tolerant of that.

>>152644274
>They actually contacted you without a sample? Is this a common thing?
it is VERY common. i honestly don't understand these people.
then there's the people who haven't written in years and asking for .05c per word. or the people who have never finished anything wanting .07c

>>152647616
>.05c
>.07c

I don't even understand what's that

>>152648287
>.05c per word
5% of cheese per word obviously

>>152647616
>>152648287
>>152648380

Okay, found it. Well, now it makes more sense.

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Animated bgs part 2.
I'm still working on some possible effects I could include. This one, aside from the lens flare, I think could be done in Ren'Py's ATL.

>>152648764
It looks really nice.

>>152648764
>Ren'Py
Good luck getting more than 2 fps.
at least you won't get motion sickness with 2fps

>>152648764
Damn, that actually looks pretty good. Can we see how it looks with a sprite on it? I can't tell if it would look strange having a static sprite on top. That lighting shift is really pretty though.

>>152648880
Thanks!

>>152649007
>Good luck getting more than 2 fps.
That's actually not this much of an issue. I've done some really complex (although, not as visually impressive) animations for Coming Out On Top, like a swimming fish, in a fishbowl, using only Ren'Py. There was no problems with framerate.
However, the RAM usage was insane. Plus, making anything complex within Ren'Py is not as much difficult as it is tedious.

>>152649012
Well, I'd have to re-render it with a sprite on top to show that, but I'll trust your wildest imagination to do the trick.

I think if there was some effects applied to the characters, it could look very dynamic as well.

Perhaps an animated background with sprites rendered with Live2D?

>>152648764
Is it even possible to insert animation in renpy? I remember reading something in the documentation that Py'Tom didn't implement this because not all codecs are available to use in commercial project without license or something. (not a problem for a developer, more like for him as a creator of the program).

>>152648764
Why not just do it in Unity at this point

>>152649594
I think I saw The Letter have an animated BG in it as well as Live2D sprites. They said they used Renpy but I don't know.

>>152649685
Is there even a good vn made from that though? Has anyone dared?

>>152649594
it doesn't like gifs

>>152649868
BLACK SANDS

>>152649404
>That's actually not this much of an issue. I've done some really complex (although, not as visually impressive) animations for Coming Out On Top, like a swimming fish, in a fishbowl, using only Ren'Py. There was no problems with framerate.
>However, the RAM usage was insane. Plus, making anything complex within Ren'Py is not as much difficult as it is tedious.

How? What's the process? I never saw anything helpful on forums.

>>152650080
An extremely long and tedious process of try and repeat.
https://youtu.be/r5IM6SeKPYw?t=2m42s
Generally, every moving part of the fish was a different .png file, that was animated separately, and then they were joined into one image definition moving from side to side.

http://traumendes-madchen.com/blog/?p=1395

I remember this piece though.

>>152650297
>>152650418
Thank you!

>>152650418
I've started animations with something similar. However, Ren'Py has a problem with rendering images moving at slow pace.
So, unless you want to have the clouds move really fast, the movement will be very choppy.

In your opinion, what's the most successful evn created? (excluding Katawa Shoujo) Not the one you like the most, but the one you aknowledge it's success even if you might not like it.

Finally finished my "different sprites in different resolutions wtf is the preferred scaling" calculator.

Progress?

>>152651984
Define "success"

>>152652264
Wide audience, interesting premise, decent art

>>152652010
Showww.
Btw, are you searching for a new BG guy yet?

>>152651984
Only thing that comes to my mind is Sunrider. I didn't like it, because the 'porn' was like one shower scene and after that I rage quit the game.

>>152652721
>rage quit
Are you 10 ?

>>152651984
Valhalla?

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>>152652721
>no porn
>rage quit

>>152652721
>>152652876

It was advertised as EROGE too. Nude scenes are not eroge, it's just ecchi.

>>152651984
obviously sakura spirit or huniepop if the latter counts.

>>152653256
trust me you dont want those sex scenes
they're worse than nasu

Post the screenshot of the newest thing you created with renpy, even if it was done long time ago.

>>152655535
How to make a decent sex scene? This shit is so difficult to write. I'm leaning torward no text at all, just a mix of cuscenes, maybe indication of moans or something like this.

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>>152655585

>>152655721
fade to black

>>152655721
Just describe your own sexual experiences.

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>>152656017
>your own sexual experiences
>evn devs

>>152656145
Now I'm worried about lewd jam

>>152656017
I don't think it's gonna work. I would have to name my game Masturbation Adventures.

Which evn could be considered a best seller?

>>152655779
I kinda like that textbox.

>>152657573
Then you really should reconsider writing sex scenes.

is there a LN game for android ?

>>152657841
mine, if you like cute boys

He slips his hands under her cotton vest and her body spasms and slackens and he cups her small, cold breasts in his hands and feels the hard pearls of her nipples, like tiny secrets, against the barked palms of his hands. He feels the gradual winding down of her dying heart and can see a bluish tinge blossoming on the skin of her skull through her thin, ironed hair.

He puts his hands under her knees and manoeuvres her carefully so that her bottom rests on the edge of the settee. He slips his fingers underneath the worn elastic of her panties that are strung across the points of her hips, slips them to her ankles and softly draws apart her knees and feels again a watery ardour in his eyes as he negotiates a button and a zipper. It is exactly as he imagined it - the hair, the lips, the hole - and he slips his hands under her wasted buttocks and enters her like a f*cking pile driver.

>>152658278
>and and and and
can't fap to this

Clyde was bellowing, with such force and exhilaration that Dan could finally relax. Clyde was spasming, grunting as he came, falling on top of him; the room was a furnace from the heat of the day...Dan pushed Clyde off him onto his back on the carpet, then straddled him, jerking his cock violently for only a couple of seconds, feverishly chasing that brief moment of light...

There were no more than a quarteracre of them, a long black rectangle set along the edge of the corn in which by the meagre starlight of late summer he could see the plump forms supine and dormant in spaced rows. He listened. In the distance a dog was yapping and in his keen ears the blind passage of gnats sounded incessantly. He knelt in the rich and steaming earth, his nostril filled with the winey smell of ruptured melons. To steal upon them where they lay, his hand on their warm ripe shapes, his pocketknife open. He lifted one, a pale jade underbelly turning up. He pulled it between his knees and sank the blade of the knife into its nether end. He shucked off the straps of his overalls. His pale shanks kneeling in a pool of denim.

>>152658278
>>152658419
>>152658647

I've pasted some of the scenes that are considered GOOD... there were much worse on the lists which were titled 'The best porn scenes of all time'. Fuck this, I'm sticking to cutscene slide show.

>>152658278
breasts are never cold.
It's, uh, a nice description of an imaginary action that has not much to do with reality.

With a bestial grunt he forces his way into her, embedding himself into the hot, clinging walls of her ass, feeling her entrance spasm around him is almost orgasmic. He tightens his grip on his base and hold still for a moment, thankful that the girl is too out of it to thrust back herself or she might have managed to shorten the ordeal by quite a bit. As it is, his little breather allows him to get himself back under control, his hand now moving up to grip at her ass, both hands now on her taut cheeks as he pulls her apart a little more, to get a good view of her entrance stretch wide around him. He gently presses forward, letting another little bit of his length enter her.

He can see her arms tense and pull toward her, and imagine her hands balled into fists as she grips at the cloth around them. Her head is leaned back, eyes screwed shut as slow trickles of tears work their way free. Her jaw is clenched tight, breath wheezing through her teeth as little flecks of spit occasionally flick out onto her lips and the couch, already damp with her drool. Her head tilts forward as she drinks in the sight of her penetrated hole, huffing angrily "You fucking rapist. You're fucking a school girl's ass, are you fucking happy?" panting between most words, she clenches her anus, her walls pulling tight around his head and the short length of shaft buried inside her.

>>152658905
>breasts are never cold.
Never touch zombie's breasts?

>>152658953
With a grunt he pulls one hand up off her ass, bringing it down on her with a slap, the shock traveling through her toned flesh giving him quite a pleasurable sensation, but also encouraging her to let up on his cock. A few more spanks, one hand holding her steady, the other speeding down onto her body, quickly cause her to relent, letting him shift deeper into her once more. "Okay, okay, just do me. Please, it hurts, just do it quick." she whines, though a shudder running up her spine indicates that pain was not, in fact, the only thing she was feeling as a result.

With a slow, inevitable progress he pushes deeper into her slick passage, hot walls clinging to each inch as he leans forward, slowly pressing in. She squeals, not just in discomfort at having her ass penetrated but also the shocking amount of pleasure it was also giving her, even as a succubus she suspected that it was somewhat unusual, embarrassing. She lets out an obvious moan of pleasure as she feels his rough pubic hair press up against her sensitive flesh, his entire length hilted within her.

>>152658905
I'm touching my nipples now, they are colder than the rest of the body.

>>152659036
That's...actually a bit better.

>>152659143
Call an ambulance.

>>152659269
http://anonkun.com/stories/filthy-smut-adventurebr/-JUVN8H2uGlPs3BwbDbA/home

>>152659429
mine are colder too.

>>152659516
>>152659143
I forgot that we are in a dead thread, now it makes sense.

>>152659697
I called my mom and she said her nipples are cold too.

>>152657603
LLTQ, Sakura Spirit

>>152659905
You have to check her nipples yourself to be sure.

>>152659976
LLQT? What's that acronym for? Google search gives me nothing

>>152658278
>the hair, the lips, the hole
well that's one of the most unerotic descriptions of vagina I've ever read

>>152660151
Long Live the Queen

>>152658278
>and he slips his hands under her wasted buttocks and enters her like a f*cking pile driver
I lost it

>>152660431
Thank you

http://store.steampowered.com/app/396650/

ace academy is out

>>152660967
Can I sex robots in that game?

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>>152660967
>http://store.steampowered.com/app/396650/
>English singers singing song with a japanese lyrics.

Why

>>152662506
>that manga
triggered

>>152660967
These male faces
Fuuuucking hell.

>>152660967
Why is it so popular?

>>152660967
I've seen those pictures in the thread today and yesterday

>>152662695
It was interesting

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>>152652646
Actively searching for another one but I need to finish commissioning the sprites first before moving back to BGs.

lol got banned, thank you ISP.

>>152665496
I wish you best of luck

>>152665041
I've never wanted an mc to die so badly before.

>>152667103
That's true, but it was one of the reason why I like it as a story.

don't you dare to die on me

>>152666536
Thanks. I hope we won't disappoint. lol.

>>152669198
Just in case we have pitchforks ready.

get up, damnit

>>152672174
Sorry.

>>152672174
I was humping /evn/ all night. Let me sleep, dammit.

>>152674046
does the thread have stds now

i am /evn/s midlife crisis

>>152675308
You're 23.