/4xg/ - Stellaris and 4X Games General

>>152534903
How the hell is this general dead already? Especially with Civ VI on the way?

It was a hell of a lot more active in 2014. Did BE really kill this place?

>>152535052
The trickle of info isn't enough to keep this general talking and not enough people are picking Civilization V up again just because of the info.

>>152535052

because Civ 6 isn't out for 60 more days, and EL and Stellaris are painfully shallow.

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>korea and brazil's continent almost completely overrun by barbs
>egypt and austria removed persia and atilla from the game
>rome has done literally nothing all game except beg and denounce everyone
should i go on a crusade and free persia, korea, brazil and atilla or kill the remaining leaders

bamp

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bump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_SlAzsXa7E

three dead in a row edition

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>>152537887
>vanilla UI

>>152534903
Couldn't they have chosen a nicer quote for Prora?

>>152543475
They were trying to make fascism sound bad.

Why is the ES/EL UI so good?

dido is best leaderfu

>>152543475

Anon, are you not aware of the current year?

>>152545231

Straight-Forward, minimal, meshes will with the art style.

Too bad the game is incredibly shallow and every faction plays out the same every game, if they were a AAA studio with fat resources EL may have been GOAT 4X game

>>152543705
>They were trying to make fascism sound bad

It's still better than having the Kremlin quote be from fucking Mohammed.
What the fuck were they smoking?

>>152534903
>we unironically died
Ahahaha~

>>152551105
its not like its first time. Still better than merging with /rtsg/ and /wgg/ tier of ded

>>152548837
Political correctness out the ass.

>>152551221
Why don't we merge with /rtsg/ anyway

>want to install CBP
>see that you need ALL DLC, including the bullshit civ and wonder DLCs

o-ok, nevermind then

>>152551264
They are permaded and we dont want them here. The same with wargames

>>152551706
>we don't want them here
>we
Who's this?

>>152551756
planefag

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sup fuccbois, time for more AuroraAAR.

Last time, the board decided to dedicate resources to asteroid mining to expand our access to raw material to build cool shit.

What they directors didn't consider is how massive freighters have to be, and therefore require huge engines.

So before anyone can go gallavanting off to start a Mercassium rush, first we have to make a freighter that can get the loot back home before the next century.

>>152551901
>331 km / s
Sounds like interspace alright

>>152551901
Great news! Finished another research lab and completed work on Electronic Warfare. Now we can be the biggest cunts in the universe.

The next step is finalizing the new engines for a freighter, and some shipyard work. A lot of shipyard work.

meanwhile, the surveyors Curiosity and Spirit are still out there finding plenty of material scattered on the asteroids in the solar system.

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>still no good trading empire game

Is Stellaris fun?

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>>152554513

>>152552631
Naturally Curiosity would be the survey ship to suffer a failure first. The crew recovered the engine at least.
Nobody seemed to happy about that, or how long they've been out. I think both survey ships are likely to have their deployment time raised a lot and given orders to have them come back before their time on task runs out.

Oh, and research completed on the Terraforming Module. Comin' for that red planet

I went ahead and read some stuff about the civilian/private sector. It's pretty interesting, it seems to operate like in Distant Worlds which I liked quite a lot.
I've also been reading into Orbital Hab modules. I'm thinking of putting one around Luna, then springing from there to Mars or Venus, whichever has better loot. However the plan is to colonize Mars in the future anyways.
And now I know how to make Commercial-grade engines. Huzzah, the private sector can do its own thing now.

>>152539565
>not using superior songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAEUrp2V4ss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev7HduZncYI

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>>152555421

>>152554754
jesus christ my brain needs a break from all these spreadsheets. my time in EvE did not prepare me for this. progress so far:

- Orbital Habitation module has been designed and will be built in orbit around Earth and towed to Luna--I need Ship-to-Ship tractors first of course.
- some new engines are in the works to give the navy and civvies more to work with
- some other shit, people got promoted
- I need a geo survey team and a boat to sail them around on. Probably going to use the Prospector design Curiosity and Spirit use I have a shipyard already tooled for it and then I can make another rover named ship

>>152556042
Jesus that game sounds fun but really hard.

>>152555421
amateur
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98

>>152556592
wow this is actually good

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So except Heroes of Annihilated Empire, any good fantasy RTS?

>>152558105
the warcraft games are ok, there is rise of legends too. A fantasy version of rise of nations, but I've never played it

>>152558105
I find the Spellforce games to be pretty decent (but their latest faction completly breaks the game)

>>152558190
Rise of Legends doesn't run very well on recent PCs because Microsoft is shit.

>>152558241
Doesn't it have RPG elements too?

>>152558297
>Doesn't it have RPG elements too?
Yeah but imo they mixed it pretty nicely (in 2 more than in 1) and in the freeplay mode you can choose between rts and rpg maps

who hyped for ES2?

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>>152558505
If we had more infos about it...

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RTS IS DEAD

>>152558543
DUDE DUST LMAO

All of my hatred, that presentation was an abortion

>>152558792
That was pretty good
Invoke interest by acting cute and invoke pity and protective instinct by bawling your eyes out

>>152558792
I'll make her really good at taking the D

>>152559018
That's what happen when you ask amateurs to show a game.

>>152559068
Well, she is cute.

Don't panic lads, we'll pick up again once VI is released.

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>>152558792

>>152559398
VI will be shit.

>>152560992
Source???

>>152561075
Check the pictures !!!!!!!!

>>152561075
Art style, Zatoichi.

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Is the Advanced Tactics Gold anon here?

>>152561075
Look at the pictures, it's pretty obvious.

Clash Battles is the same shit.

>>152562250
What the fuck is that.

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Heinlein Dev Diary 3

>>152562357
>embassies are gone
Dropped and uninstalled.

Why do Paradox insists on shitting up the game that much? Anything that is fun or easy to use is already removed or nerfed so much it's basically useless.

>>152562484
Embassies were removed in asimov

>>152563393
I'm asking for a refund.

>>152562357
That planet type square still needs work.
For clarity it should be a 3x3 of dry, temperate, wet, and hot, mild, cold. Basing two columns off of rainfall and the third off of temperature is arbitrary and makes zero logical sense.

>>152562484
Embassies have been gone for quite a while

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Can someone give me some opening move advice? Usually my games go like this.

>Found city and scout with warrior
>Go for pottery and writing for tech, whatever after that (depending on my luxury resources)
>Produce scout, scout, shrine, monument, Great Library
>Use GL's free tech to rush Drama
>For policies, start out with the first one from Tradition (+3 culture in capital), then go for liberty and get the free settler ASAP
The problem is that I'm always lagging behind with this strategy. By the time I get going the other civs have already plopped down three or so cities. After that I myself can only found three or four cities total before being locked in. I also don't have enough gold and production to keep up, nor can I create an army to defeat my enemies.

It was almost as if Spain would be the perfect solution to my problem. Almost...
>Start with Spain, same general strat as above
>Fighter finds Cero de Potosi rather quickly, earning me 500 gold
>Instantly buy a settler and settle near Cero de Potosi
>Working it earns me +20 gold (and +4 faith due to my pantheon)
>Make mad bank
>Manage to get three extra settlers in total, plop them down near good luxury resources
>Indonesia (to my south) tells me to stop settling everywhere, I tell 'em to fuck off (my plan is to conquer them later)
>As I'm considering producing some units (or buying them with faith due to my religion), at the same time Indonesia and Babylon (to my North) declare war on me
>WTF Babylon, I'm not even close to you
>I thought we wuz friends
>Ragequit

So even with Spain I suck. What the hell am I doing wrong?

>>152558105
Populous: The Beginning

>>152565640
>scouting with warrior
Use your scout cavalry.
>Go for pottery and writing
What?
>Produce scout, scout, shrine, monument
These are T3 buildings, how do you-
>For policies
Oh, you weren't speaking about Age of Empires 2. My bad.

>>152565640
>>For policies, start out with the first one from Tradition (+3 culture in capital), then go for liberty and get the free settler ASAP
This is retarded

>>152565645
Casting bees never got old

>>152565640
On higher difficulties you are always behind the AI. And friends don't let friends build the Great Library. If you intend on playing on higher difficulties then you should stop now. It's so unlikely that you will ever get it on higher difficulties that trying to build it is cheezy.

>>152565640
The AI expanding and "locking you in" is not a bad thing. They're just bringing their cities closer to you so you can more easily conquer them. Taking their cities levels the playing field since the AI can produce more than you.

Instead of relying on the GL as a crutch (it won't work on higher difficulties anyway), build some military units, rush for military techs and take your neighbors cities when they get too close. You'll probably want to start off defending your own territory after declaring war and when they run out of units you fuck them up. If you're still behind at this point, use spies to steal tech.

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>>152565967

>>152565640
>For policies, start out with the first one from Tradition (+3 culture in capital), then go for liberty and get the free settler ASAP
Let me emphasize how dumb it is to get a policty just for a flat culture bonus when getting any single policy increases the culture cost of all future policies. Focus on completing policy trees.

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>>152566060
>>152566401
I assumed getting +3 every turn early on would eventually overcome the opportunity cost. But I'll focus on completing trees instead then. Am I right to believe that there's no reason to not take liberty unless you're playing Venice?

>>152566273
>>152566319
So pretty much
>Skip the GL
>Produce military units instead
For tech that'd probably mean I should go straight for mathematics and ironworking, right? To get swordsmen and catapults?

Can you guys also explain why the GL is a bad wonder? It gives you a free tech, Great Scientist points and two slots for great works of writing. To my ignorant self it sounds like a great cultural victory wonder.

Also, does your disapproval mean that early wonders aren't worth it altogether, or is it just something specifically about the Great Library that sucks?

Star Ruler 2 is 75% off on GoG.

>>152566589
>Am I right to believe that there's no reason to not take liberty unless you're playing Venice?
How in your messed up logic does that make any sense? Liberty is for going wide (building a lot of low pop cities) and Venice literally cannot build settlers.

>>152566772
Read that again

>>152566772
>How in your messed up logic does that make any sense?
I said unless(!) you're playing Venice. I assumed there's no reason to not go for liberty because even if you're going tall, you're going to have at least 4 cities ideally (again, barring Venice). I assumed that early game getting a free settler, a free worker and a free Great Person on top of that is so powerful (on top of some smaller benefits) that none of the other early game policies can hold a candle to it. Or am I making a mistake here?

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>>152566589
>>152566772
My bad. Seemed like an unnecessary number of negative there though.

Anyway, Liberty is actually a pretty week tree. It also takes more skill to pull off. My advice to you is to either use the stronger Tradition tree or practice going wide using ECS (Endless City Sprawl) as the Mayan. There should be guides elsewhere. Once you pull that off successfully without crashing and burning you should be able to make good use of the Liberty tree.

>>152566589
Tradition is the correct choice in almost every game unless you're playing a city spammer like the Mayans. You might want to look up the 4 city tradition opening, it's pretty solid for most civs and it's flexible enough to handle early aggression.

GL is great. It's just that there will always be an AI civ that tries to build the GL and on immortal/deity it's almost impossible to beat them to the punch. So don't rely on it since it'll be gone on higher difficulties.

Stonehenge on the other hand is doable (not guaranteed though) if you rush calendar, chop some trees and have enough food/production in your starting area.

>>152566589
>>Skip the GL
Depends on the difficulty, in Prince getting GL and having a great game is easy.

>For tech that'd probably mean I should go straight for mathematics and ironworking, right? To get swordsmen and catapults?
If you want to go conquering that is. If your neighbours are peaceful and you don't want to conquer there is no need. Just get the tech to crossbowmen if you need defense from barbs

>>152567128
>>152567160
Thanks. I'll focus on the tradition opening for now, maybe some practice with maya spamming later. Can you guys explain why liberty is weak and tradition is strong though? Understanding the logic behind it migh thelp me.

>Stonehenge on the other hand is doable (not guaranteed though) if you rush calendar, chop some trees
>chop some trees
No offense, but where do I fit in the workers (in terms of production order) needed to chop those trees? Especially without liberty? Scout Scout Worker, meaning I miss out on religion early on?

>>152567331
It's not that liberty is especially weak, it's that going wide is usually a bad idea and liberty is there to help you go wide. The reason wide civs struggle in Civ 5 is that technology and social policies become more expensive the more cities you have. This can be overcome, especially if you're playing as the Mayans since their shrine replacement provides enough science to counter-act the science penalty from having a lot of cities. Additionally, the first free great person can be settled for an academy which is great for science in the long run.

Meanwhile, the tradition opening is usually limited to 4 cities since it's a sweet spot between having enough production and resources to get shit done while not suffering too many wide penalties. It also combos well with the policy tree giving free culture buildings and aqueducts in your first 4 cities. Additionally, building the national college is easier if you have fewer cities.

As for stonehenge, you can steal workers from city states and you'll probably want to skip/delay the second scout.

>>152567331
Liberty gets stronger on larger maps where you need to build more cities, when you have a shit start, and when you want to go wide early with some conquering. In a lot of those cases though you need to have an iota of skill already to pull off successfully. But generally though on standard maps tradition is just all around stronger. It grows your capital and a lot of times it's important to make sure you have a really great capital for bonus gold with city connections and especially if you want wonders.

More generally, Liberty is weak because going wide is week. With tradition on standard map size you shoot for 4 cities and you can usually get them before the AI expands too much. With Liberty you probably only get 5 or 6 cities which isn't much more and doesn't beat out the benefits of Tradition. Plus going wide adds on the difficulty by pissing off your neighbors.

>>152568291
>>152568307
Alright, thanks for all the advice!

>>152562250
>hexshit

>>152568709
Why don't you show your game, then?

>10
again

recommend me a fantasy 4x game that isn't endless legend, I already have that. Bonus points for elves

>>152572005
Fantasy wars?
Warlock - Master of the Arcane?
Master of Magic?

>>152572005

Age of Wonders?

>>152572110
>>152572219
thanks, I'll decide what to play by last digit
1-2: fantasy wars
3-4: Warlock
5-6: master of magic
7-8: Age of wonders
9: reroll

>>152572559
Hahahahaha.

>>152572559
reroll

>>152572658
age of wonders it is. Which game in the series is best?

>>152572756
The third, I guess.

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>>152572756
The third
The first two haven´t aged well

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>>152558105
ARMIES OF EXIGO

TZAR


btw new frog article about Endless Space 2 with screenshots of ES2 space and ground combat.
http://www.press-start.be/2016/08/gc16-endless-space-2/

>>152572756
I still like Shadow Magic the most.

>>152572774
>>152572931
>>152572986
the third one it is. Maybe I'll blog some if the thread is ded when I get it started

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>>152572756
Third.

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>>152572978
>Frog
>.be

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>>152572978
These games are neither on Steam nor GoG.

Also, about your article.
>Lumeris are a trade race made of four families, they can get more Dust than the others and can buy planets rather than colonizing them, they can also buy colony outposts, grow them out a bit and sell them.
I guess they're tall rather than wide.
>By pressing the space bar, you can change the display and have a "scanner view".
>Colonies seem to be the same, but you'll need to scan planets to get intel about their ressources.
>Combats are similar to Endless Space (can't interfere directly once it started), but you can set up a tactical plan. The guy compares it to Rugby Manager, I don't know if Gratuitous Space Battles wouldn't be a better example. How many ships, what kind of ship and what they're equipped with should greatly influence the battles.
The guy seems a bit doubtful about whether it'll be cosmetic or have a real impact.
>Three options about ground invasions : surrender and evacuate the planet, fight directly, or do guerilla, which seems to involve getting the population to fight.
>Overharvesting now is a thing and planets can run out of ressources (only local ressources, strategic ressources seems still infinite). You can either use these ressources to produce or to trade.
>Research system is similar to Endless Legends with 5 eras.
>You now have elections and a Senate, with each leader having his own agenda.

>>152573354

The thing is, III focused too much on non-wizard classes, which kind of misses the point of playing a fantasy game about wizards battling each other.

>>152573607
>French
>not froggy speak
Ta guelle, fils de pute.

>>152573607
>Belgium
>a country
choose one

>>152573748
>Ta guelle
Shut the fuck up, you have no idea how to write that word properly, you piece of shit.

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>>152572978
faggot
>>152573663
>writing this much to respond to a faggot

>>152573890
I'm just shortening the article to make it readable to the filthy peasants who don't speak superior French master race language.

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>>152573663
>fight directly, or do guerilla
We shall fight them in high-orbit, we shall fight them in the airspace, we shall fight them in the ruins of our cities! Capitol Prime will never surrender!

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In Civ V, what is the best build order/are the best starting circumstances for a quick military rush? By which I mean rapidly churning out enough units to conquer an enemy city without having to sacrifice too much on other fronts.

>>152574505
The article implies that it affects the population but keep the invading empire from capturing the planet for good.

Holy shit! Just reveal Rome already, Sid!

>>152575153
L-lewd.

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>>152574694
>>152574505
>>152573663
>Guerrilla
At beginning of invasion make choice to fight guerrilla style. Game crunches the numbers and sets how many of your current total population become guerrillas. Enemy invaders seize possession of plant. Huge debuffs in FIDS, chance of destroying infrastructure each turn, damaging fleets in orbit and invader troops garrison while the guerrilla war continues. Each turn turn the game crunches how many guerrillas the occupiers manage to kill, this always comes with civilian population casualties. War isn't over until liberation, death of all diehard guerrillas or extermination of all native population, whichever comes first.

Shit got real.

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Anyone here remember the game Battle Realms?

>>152575379
I'll make Space France with huge guerilla bonuses.

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>>152575153
:^)

Currently stomping the shit out of the Zulus as Ghandi.

I've knocked him down to his final city, it's a conquered city state with a great work in it.

Is there a way for me to liberate the city state and get the great work at the same time?

>>152575560
I have fond memories of that game, even if strategically, it wasn't that interesting.

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>>152575561
Vive la France!
https://youtu.be/S34cVkL6zCE

I'll make space Helghast.

>>152573672

All your leaders are still wizards, even if they're not called as such.

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4X and RTS is not enough to keep us alive. We adding City Builder to our portfolio?

>>152577829
What about proceduraly generated games like SpaceEngine?

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>tfw can't find where to download the 1.2.5 update
Fug

>>152578078
http://www82.zippyshare.com/v/avvzU6N0/file.html

Join to a private tracker or a specialized forum to avoid further problems.

For those who haven't seen it, here's the livestream where they accidentally leak all the leaders, their reaction is pretty hilarious.

Skip to 51:40
http://www.bilibili.com/video/av5892793/

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>>152579042
Thanks. I will.

>>152555421
So this is the power of West Germany... not bad.

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>>152579181
>dat whole website

Instead of a reaction image involving puking, here's the list of the leaked Civilization VI leaders. Just in case the video got deleted.

Keep in mind there was at least plus 1 on the list, but their streaming window (or what's that called) covered it.

>(Thanks for sharing, Anon!)

>>152581137
You're welcome m8.

>>152555421
Why does Temujin look like a tranny?

>>152579042
>specialized forum
like /4xg/?

>>152581815
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=230613736

>>152556592
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el93MIxAf-c

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These are the civ 5 mods I am playing with in my current game:

>Enhanced User Interface
forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=512263

>InfoAddict
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=79000477

>Unique Cultural Influence
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=330449372

>Unique Components Collection
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=743202441

Any suggestions for my next game?

>>152582073
Thanks :)

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>tfw you realize historic start Rome on Mediterranean map will be even more useless in Civ 6 because the Italian peninsula is so small and cities are now so big

>>152582193
NEPTUNIA

>>152556357
the thing I'm finding is that isn't necessarily difficult, but it has such a wide base of shit you need to know and figure out that the challenge is in putting all the pieces together in your head.
and doing math. being able to math big numbers on the fly is a good asset. which I lack

>>152575379
Is that like confirmed or a personal fantasy? if its a fanta sea post it on the forums, maybe they'll add it in.

>>152556042
Picking back up. One of humanity's brightest completed research into terraforming, so now we can give Mars the O.
A handful of Financial Centers are being completed in the next weeks which will benefit the private sector and put a tidy profit aside for the global corporations.

Still waiting on shipyards to finish expanding their capacity before we can produce tugs or freighters, but an orbital hab module can be built by industry down the well. So, that'll be queueueueued up next.

>>152577829

well we're only dead because RTS is literally dead and until ES2/Civ 6 comes out there's nothing really to talk about 4X wise

>>152583565
I refuse to accept the fact that RTS are dead.

>>152583689

well okay. doesn't change that it is. :)

>>152577829
/4xg/ , /rtsg/ , /cbg/ , /wgg/ and whatever you would call non-military/vehicular simulators united thread when?

>>152583689
not completely dead. they 'revive' in waves. I mean, dow 3 is coming out many years after dow 2, and even if it isnt exactly what people wanted, I still like what I see so far, from the very limited footage. theres also halo wars 2 out next year, as well as that cossacks game, or whatever its called. but as a whole, the rts genre is pretty fucking dead, with so many sequels turning out like shit (c&c, supreme commander, aoe 3 to an extent) and not enough good to back it up.

>>152584163
>not completely dead
>pretty fucking dead
man, I contradict myself a lot when I type. hopefully you get my point, at least.

>>152583417
I fucked up my rovers. It was Spirit and Opportunity that were twins, THEN Curiosity went to Mars. Guess I'll just have to build another survey ship.

Speaking of, Curiosity and Spirit returned to Earth for some R&R after over a year of exploration. They've surveyed a lot of rocks in the asteroid belt but I do need one of them to hit up Mars so I'll order that after a couple months rest.

And Earth's spaceport is nearly done, hurrah, next is the OMM. The directors should be pleased

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>>152584163

>tfw C&C is dead
>tfw CoH literally died

>>152584265
Noooo?

>>152584402
C&C was shit anyway.
>my infantry is outranged by the enemy turrets
>meanwhile the enemy infantry can shoot my turrets just fine

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>>152583417
>Is that like confirmed or a personal fantasy? if its a fanta sea post it on the forums, maybe they'll add it in.
Fantasy.

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>>152577829
>adding a dead genre to a dead general
Fitting. Oh well, at least Skylines is getting a disasters expansion. I'm hyped for that.

>>152584786
>emperor still isn't on GoG

>>152584786
I want a military themed city builder where you can build everything from a temporary defense line with foxholes and simple bunkers to magino-line styled fortifications.
Stronghold crusader sort of fills this niche, but for medieval castles instead

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>>152585214
Who holds the rights for it?

>>152585724
Stronghold was good. Where did they go wrong?

Also, I have Children if the Nile, it runs really poorly on my computer for some reason.

>>152585971
>it runs really poorly on my computer for some reason.
Pathfinding and task prioritization is broken. Past a certain size all cities breakdown because the NPCs can't perform their duties no matter how well you arrange the cities.

>>152585724
why do I get a feeling that most of these game are pretty bad?

>>152585724
>parks
>startopia
That ain't no park.

>>152586231
Because they're all old.

>>152584376
So, the board has designated two handfuls of very smart people as geology survey teams to accompany Curiosity and Spirit to a couple choice target planets. Should work out fine until we can build dedicated ships for the teams. which I have no idea how to use but I assume just dropping them off won't exactly work if there's nowhere to not-die

Meanwhile research has been puttering on, finishing one of the commercial engines requested and some other shiny things, like Terraforming rate 0.012.


>>152585724
>no Sim Safari
c'mon really? Even has Sim Isle which is fucking impossible to figure out.

>>152586231

many of them are /bargain bin/ core. I mean, who the fuck would buy car wash tycoon if it didn't go for 5$ and you got 2 other games with it?

>>152581873
Specialized for warez, not 4X games or RTSes.

>>152586231
Because you haven't played them at release.

Knights of Honor, is Tactics gamey? Is 9 feudal knights also gamey?

>>152586929
>Knights of Honor, is Tactics gamey
It's closer to Total War, but yeah. Haven't tried 9 feudal knights.

>>152584402
rip city of heroes

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>>152586518
Apparently I can just drop off the survey teams and bugger off until they finish.
So while they work, Spirit is going to survey the rest of Mars' satellites, and Curiosity will drop off its team on Luna before venturing off into the mass of asteroids to find something worth mining.

Research carries on. An additional lab is finishing in six months with two more producing over the year after that. Then, Orbital Hab Module.

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>>152585724
>Evil Genius.

Fucking fun game. I actually have been replaying it for a time now, and was making a game retexture to go with it. I might upload it to to the game's Nexus page.

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>>152584476
>C&C was shit anyway.
you are a piece of shit. red alert 2 aftermath is the best game on the planet

>>152587759
I got it recently, it's much more trdious than I though. Money takes a lot of time to be recovered, and you ALWAYS have people wandering in your base, even tourists. And building a hotel to keep them busy is expensive and eat some of your limited manpower.

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>>152587863
>red alert 2
meant just red alert

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>>152587863
>baaw how dare you disagree with me!!!

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>>152587872
There's a mod in Nexus to make it much less tedious. I've been trying it for a while now, and although I think it does some things right it still makes the game way to easy to win. I haven't felt once like I might lose at on moment.

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>>152588031
dont push me pal

>>152588197
those fucking super agents are annoying as hell

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>>152587872
>>152588197
You can also check on Evil Planet for other mods/retextures, but that place has been dead for years, even if it still hasn't 404'd somehow.

>>152588387
Which makes them even much sweeter when you finally can get rid of them.

The mod I'm using makes them less dangerous.

Too much in fact.

You can just send Social minions at them until they leave and as long as they don't get any heat you should be fine.

Why does Sid keep making barbarians civilizations? Who exactly do the barbarians represent if the Huns, the Celts, and the Shoshone are actual civilizations?

>>152588862
If I can get something that increase how much money I make, it's good.

>>152588993

;)

>>152588993
Epic meme my fellow /pol/ack

>>152588993
There are still no African factions.

>>152589012
Here: http://www.nexusmods.com/evilgenius/mods/7/?

It makes stealing cash last 10 seconds instead of the usual 60 (too quickly IMO), but it also makes a lot of other changes I might have tackled differently.

>>152588993
Hell if I know. The Goths?

>>152589197
You mean for Civ 6? I thought the Zulu were already confirmed?

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>>152589105
>the Huns are so much barbarians that it fucking says in the civipedia that the Huns have no actual cities, they just use city names from actual civilizations

>>152589197
>>152589576

i might be biting a hook here, but the confirmed token Kang civ is the Kongo w/ Afonso I (influential for making the Kongo a Christian nation, which influenced neighboring sub-saharan nations as well)

>>152589272
Thanks mate.

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>>152587589
I'm retarded and got my survey ships backwards in posting. Oh well. Point is they're both working hard.

Here's some catch-up of what's been going on around the system. With Opportunity completed, I can just throw it at Jupiter and it'll get scanning out there. I do have to make a refit to the class though to update deployment time to 2 years.

Earth is running out of Uridium, fast. Only 7.5 years of minerals remain so we have to get asteroid mining up and running. The comet Machholz has a decent deposit which will last until we find more, and its helpfully on its way back into the system. Thus the directors put out a design for a 7,500 ton asteroid miner which is just over the capacity of our largest shipyard. It should catch up in a couple weeks.

five fucking years to go for the second shipyard to finish its 10k tonnage addition

I've placed a Supply contract to Civ.Industry on Earth for 4 Terraforming Installations, which Mars has a matching demand. I think they'll figure out I want them to get to Mars, hopefully it'll work?

>>152590091
Holy cow.

So, you winning or what?

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>>152590091
WELP

>>152590207
well humanity hasn't collapsed and I haven't managed to get any officers killed, so, yeah I guess so

>>152590402
I don't really get it. You use contracts to build stuff?

Random VI info:

>Greeks have the Acropolis as a Theatre Square replacement
>Arabia has the Madrassa
>Romans have Baths instead of Aqueducts
>Kongo has a Swordsman replacement
>Norway has the Stave Church and the Longship
>India has the Stepwell UI and the War Elephant

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>>152590475
some stuff, I think. Like, I can order construction and research facilities using state resources and wealth. that's in this tab.

But I can also put a contract out to the private sector (which I have no direct control over) to fulfill something I need or want, like putting facilities on colonies.

then again I don't really have any idea what I'm doing

>>152591605

sauce?

Beware, Blogshit!

>Fail miserably at online dating.
>Just give up and go back to fapping and hugging a pillow while sleeping.

>Suddenly shitloads of time in my hands.
>Play Age of Wonders III
>No longer care about the previous issue.

Glorious.

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>>152578078
>>152579042
>last play in 1.0.3
>only No more sectors mod
>update
>see this

If I try to make a sector, the game freeze loading the menu, kek.

>>152591863
CivFanatics has been all over the Germany stream now the video's up; the tooltips for Technologies aren't set up right yet, so they just show everyone's uniques regardless of who you're playing as when you hover over them.

>>152591846
What are the differences between private buildings and public buildings? I only know of Distant Worlds.

>>152591940
>liking Age of Wonders 3
I'm jealous.

>>152591940
just started playing AoW3, I must say it's a nice change from civ and endless legend

those elves, mmm

>>152592298
Elves are for spanking.

Which Countries have the best music in Civ 5?

>>152592216
You don't like it or you just got bored of it after playing it enough?

>>152592298
Yeah. My thoughts exactly. Including the elves comment.

>>152593024
I couldn't get into it. The battles were annoying and not fun, and building stuff in the towns feel like I'm just adding a line of text rather than an improvement.

>Distant Worlds Universe is updating
OH BOY
WHERE THE PATCH NOTES AT

>>152593132
I'm just starting, so I can't make a proper judgement until later. But the feeling stays. I have so many games to play through I feel stupid for forgetting what made me happy while I was chasing girls online.

>>152593276
Well, my complains about Age of Wonders 3 are purely subjective.
I just couldn't get into it, despite it having fun undeads.

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>>152593409
>I just couldn't get into it, despite it having fun undeads.
Battles are bit weird with the
>1/100hp unit does 100% damage
and the best strategy being baiting the AI into making the first move due to the way the action points and retaliations work.

Still loving it.

>>152592216
I'm not sure private buildings really exist. I know that State ones are what I actually control which show up in the summary of planets. There's no listing that I can see of how much industrial capacity the private sector has so I might have to build a stockpile for the private industry to move.
or maybe I need to shovel more money into the private sector, I have n o i d e a.

>>152590091
The 3 survey ships have finished their refit, some research completed which means I can move some labs around. Tractor beams finish in a matter of months so I orbital colonies will be constructed to be towed into place, starting with Earth, Luna, then Mars.
shipyard soon, we're coming for all that asteroid loot.

>>152593239
DWU still gets updates?

>>152593803
4.4 MB, yeah.

>>152593582
It was like a deeper Heroes of Might and Magic system, yeah.

But sometimes it's bullshit.

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>>152585724
>Car Tycoon
I really need a working or remastered version of that game, was fun but pretty bugged.

Also,
>not Freight Tycoon

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>>152585724
>No Locomotion in transport
>No Anno 2070 in City
>No War For The Overworld Lair Building

>>152594543
War for the Overworld isn't really lair building (and it get boring quickly).
Anno 2070 is Uplay trash.

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>>152594643
>Anno 2070 is Uplay trash.
delete this!

>>152594902
I took a huge liquid shit yesterday. What was in my toilet bowl was better than Anno 2070.

Then I flushed and that clogged the toilets.

>>152594110
>I really need a working or remastered version of that game, was fun but pretty bugged.

Pick yer posion (both Early Access but still):

http://store.steampowered.com/app/285110/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/293760/

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>>152534903
Guys can someone help please, any linux users
are we still haven't major issues with mods (the case sensitive issue)?
I for one am pretty sure that better ui and some other enabled mods didn't actually work in game.

>http://pastebin.com/5ANRmRur
also whats up in general with mods,
no good overhaul balancing mods? anything good for going together with revolutions?
is the noquitters also worthwhile playing single?

>>152593803
The Martian survey team has completed their task, revealing nearly 600k tons of Duranium, about four times as much as Earth. Its definitely worth colonizing for that alone.

The surveyors have finished resting up, and are back out in space as ordered by the directors. A survey team was dropped at a nearby rock with some resources, with another being sent to another dwarf planet with much better potential for resources.

and some other stuff is going in the empire, Industry is about to be freed up from building research to make an orbital hab module, there's now a state-designed commercial grade asteroid miner and freighter with a tug to come after research is finished.

but my fucking shipyards are still too small

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>>152582437
It reflects the actual Roman empire pretty well, imo. They had big cities and expanded a lot, getting most of their wealth from wars, until they got too big and couldn't sustain themselves on war alone, collasping in the process.

Once again, your people call upon you to lead them to greatness. Will you create a civilization that will stand the test of time, or will you vanish in the sands of time?

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>>152562325
It's Decisive Campaigns: Case Blue
>>152568709
t. Map-painter pro

>>152596735
So ressources are limited in Aurora.

Can you use Dead Space's system and break planets in order to mine without having to colonize them?

>>152562357
>There is an old gamer's adage that says 'more player choice is always better.' We do not actually agree with this
Well, that certainly explains a lot.
Removing Alliances in favor of Federations only sounds like a bad idea to me, since part of the reason I was willing to form alliances was so that I didn't have to deal with the bullshit of Federation leadership changing hands every ten years.
Though the colonization thing seems like a step in the right direction; now having the Adaptive traits will actually be really helpful.
Any word on a new Win Condition, or is blobbing still the only way to progress?

>>152600138
>There is an old gamer's adage that says 'more player choice is always better.' We do not actually agree with this
What the fuck.

I'm getting Starbound flashbacks here, with the dev saying that 1.0 does not mean "finished.

>>152600387
To be fair, they go on to say something along the lines of "but in Stellaris, it happens to be true," but still, the fact that their default mindset is that limiting player agency is necessary is somewhat worrying, especially since the game's they make are supposed to be about tackling problems through different means.

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>>152593803
tracor beams are finished researching, and surveyors have revealed that 2010 TK7 is just a rock with some duranium on it. They're being moved to Eureka in an effort to find more resources there.

The asteroid mining project is slowly coming together, the last 500 tons to be added to 'Robertson & Ball' shipyard will finish in six months. The board is unsure of how the shipyard tooling process will handle building three or four different vessels from the same facility, but 'Eh, they'll figure it out' has been the final note.

>>152599630
Sort of. You can build automated mines and pick up the resources from those. or 'deliver' them another colony with a mass driver. you should probably have one on both ends You don't have to colonize every rock with people.

technically everything you build on another planet/moon/rock is a 'colony' in terms of game mechanics. the 'colony' is just a container to hold the stuff you put on it, but that's how it works internally. you do not have to put people on the rock to extract anything.


>>152600138
>>There is an old gamer's adage that says 'more player choice is always better.' We do not actually agree with this (...)
>pic related
Paradox what the fuck.

>>152586231
>>152586340
Congratulations - you kiddies are the problem.

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>>152600387
>>152600138
>>152601191
I haven't a clue behind the reasoning for that

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>>152601191
welp. first officer death, rest in pepperonis.

Lookit that Venus survey though. Too bad the planet fucking blows. Not much going on otherwise, just some minor micro moving geo teams around and waiting for things to finish.

>>152601105
I can see how they, as devs of GSG, have a certain need to somewhat restrict player options by adding a bunch of rules that keep things at least in shouting range of realism. (e.g., making the good old Chinese Militia Rush of 1938 in HoI impossible)

But for a 4X game, that mindset means trouble.
It should be about finding 9001 ways to equip ships, make alliances and become the UFP or be be xenophobic genocidal IoM, have lots of tiny vassals or annex everyone into a giant blob, etc.


But who am I kidding, they didn't even manage to remotely balance weapons and ship classes, and I haven't played the unmodded game since 1.1 anyway.

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>>152596493
I use Linux as well. Sadly I can help you, so fuck me.

>>152604268
can't*

I can't even help myself, see?

>>152604268
I see...
finally at least someone who also plays on linux
no mods for you?
I remember from some old days the case sensitive issue can sort of be sorted by lowering case of everything, and also some of the ref paths on the modinfo file
there was even discussion of a script that could get this going

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>>152602728
I'm retarded I can just build my tugs and shit at COMMERCIAL shipyards because they are COMMERCIAL designs.

this is why I drink

At least my naval yard finished its expansion just in time for me to stop being so fucking stupid.
Thankfully the board has kept me on, for usefulness more than capability.

Has Stellaris received any patches to make it less shit yet? I played it when it first came out and I got bored midgame.

>>152604845
I'm a very busy faggot, so I haven't played enough CiV to go beyond Vanilla.

However, I'm surprised it isn't in the pastebin. A script for lowering the case of everything shouldn't be that hard, but if it's already out there, there's no point in brewing it oneself.

Please, if you find it, make sure it is included in the CiV pastebin, senpai.

>>152605083
wait until 1.3, October I think.

Bloody Swedish holidays

Should I start endless legend or Age of wonders?

>>152596735
Have you been sure to use commercial shipyards for your surveyors and freighters? They're much faster to build and upgrade

>>152606369
freighters absolutely. I didn't for surveyors because I didn't know how to make commercial engines at the time.

but these are WAY faster. sure they chew up fuel like fucking crazy but its only 3 of them.

>>152604868
I keep having a 3078 error which then rolls into a million other database errors. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong anymore.

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So in Civ V, the best early game construction order is usually considered to be:
>scout
>shrine
>monument
>settler (if you have 2 pop)
And... then what? Seriously, what happens after that? I just can't figure out a good build order. I have a feeling I always have an army that's too small, production that's too low and a science output that's too low. In other words, I'm doing something very wrong.

So why is Petra getting buffed in Civ VI again

>>152601105
Fuck them. I liked having embassies. It was a really easy way to raise relationships and avoid getting stabbed in the back.

>>152601191

>>152607113
wlep. error only seems to happen on the production overview window and nowhere else, so, gonna hurry up and wait for it to crash later. and probably burn the save

In the meantime, Boxcar 001, the first commercial freighter under our control has been finished as well as OH Home 1, and two asteroid miners. Huzzah, time for mining!

>>152607452
the rest depends on your playstyle and environment I suppose.
Eg: Build archers/composite if you intend to attack someone. Or maybe you want to build a worker if there's no nearby city state to nick one from.

>>152607113
Hmm, ask here
http://aurora2.pentarch.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=5d8ce0e1fe56680e65a8e0f3767423a9&board=10.0

>fire Stellaris one last time after fiddling around in details
>make fanatic xenophile, spiritualist moose race, attractive trait and some shit
>choose the plus core systems government
>quickly set up planets to be pure specialized energy, mineral and science planets
>befriend fucking everyone, let them migrate, sky high happiness with special buildings
>let them migrate to my planet for perfect BLANDA UPP and use them to colonize new planets right away
>100% habitability and happiness galore
>in case diplomacy fails I always have battleships with tachyon lances
>never form a federation, just sprinkle guarantees around and join in wars to liberate and vassalize
>win when the entire galaxy is my dependancy even the xenophobe fallen empire
>machine consciousness shows up and dismantles all their pops right away, not even brobots want to fight my utopia where even the waifubots had rights
>my race barely had over 80 pops at the end of the game
>galaxy is engulfed in peace and happiness


This was something different.

>>152562484

Embassies were pretty stupid and gamebreaking. Embassying a violent neighbor early on practically prevented wars and you were free to build up your shit and colonize in peace. Now you actually have to hand over shit like star charts and sensor links if you want to be on someones good side and show your good intentions.

That said, diplomacy is an absolute ass in Stellaris and is in a dire need of a complete overhaul(like many other things) There is simply no trade, no interaction, no special options based on your ideology, no minor issues like regulating border colonies.

>>152609628

Also I forgot, removing the 4 empire requirement from federations is just bad. It had a certain gravity and weight, getting 3 others on board and forming a grand galactic alliance.

>>152609818
Haven't even seen one formed since before asimov

>>152609628
It's retarded. Embassies were nice and them being restricted to 3 active one meant you had to decide who you wanted to get close to.

>>152609971

Then they should have let a single embassy remain with a singficant influence cost -2-3 or so to represent the diplomatic focus of your entire foreign ministry. Embassies made the game way too easy and boring and they make no sense.

Whether or not you can use an embassy should be related to the ideologies of your empire and the target empire.

>>152608319
reading over a couple threads it's probably read/write permissions? so naturally I've shotgunned them open.
it might also have something to do with the production overview selecting a different tab in the F2 window when you swap tabs there. So checking industry queues opens Industry tab, researches changes F2 window to research etc.
it could also be a weird fluke, but it hasn't done it again yet. filing under problem solved until it isn't

Anyways, comet mining is a go. 2 miners are there, and mining is happening. Time to get a freighter set to automagically pick up the goods.

>>152610101
Yeah, let's make the game hard as fuck because it's already boring, so why not shit on realism and have it being annoying too?

>>152610514

Youre just obviously shitposting now.

>>152610514
The embassy system they had was far from realistic.

>>152607452
I've had the same problem for years, I barely finished any Civ sessions because of this. (In my defence, I've always played on huge maps with as much civ as possible). Which is not as crucial as it might sound, but still.

For me, the tides turned in mid-games as battles were pretty much unavoidable there. I always played Civs for the management / development side, so I weren't fond of these conflicts. I found them dull and too shallow.

What's the solution then? That there's no solution. Civ sessions have a typical dynamic, and you have to get used to them. The rest is nothing but technical details based on the actual situation. So just stop worrying.

>>152595980
I tested Automation few months ago, the bugs ruined the experience, but it's interesting. I didn't know about GearCity, i'll give it a try.
Thanks.

>>152610810
>embassies don't improve relations between two countries
Good to know.

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>>152610428
Well it picks up the goods. So frequently and quickly it burns through fuel way too fast. I could leave it to wait for a while, but fuck that I want it completely automated. I wonder if I could contract civvies to haul that material back.

Oh well, mass driver and automated mines is the better future-proof solution. This comet's going out past Jupiter eventually.

>>152611148
>real countries are limited to an arbitrary number of embassies
Good to know

>>152611148
>America is super friendly bff's with Russia
>what was the Iranian revolution and hostage crisis.

For embassies to really work in a fun way that enhances the game there needs to be more grand strat level simulation on the domestic front and civilian populations, racial tensions, etc. The way they seem to be pushing it is more towards the 4x side.

>>152611708
>Paradox doesn't want the game to be easy nor fun
Good to know.

>>152611637
Jesus I don't understand anything in this screen. Maybe because it's 1AM and I'm sleep deprived, but still.

>>152612107
>I want embassies because they make the game braindead easy
Good to know.

>>152611637
What do you download to give Aurora an actual ui?

>>152612271
>he'd rather play space jews rather than real diplomats
Good to know.

>>152612420
>he thinks slapping an embassy in another empire is playing a diplomat

>>152612297
Autism.

>>152612107
I don't think oraora has any UI mods.

in fact, the dev won't make mod support anyways, which I personally understand because VB6 is a cunt to work with. And he's in the middle of rewriting the game for C# so mod functionality is a ways off if he does add it in. which is unlikely

besides, you get used to it. eventually

>>152612593
>he thinks ambassadors just touch themselves and that relationships just improve magically

>>152612876
Wrong quotes, buddy.

>>152612876
You have images for the menus, mine is just text

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>2016
>Civ games still don't have different period attire for the rulers
Intolerable!

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any game where i can also win without using a single military force? like civ5?
i played quite a lot of this, more than 300 hours but now i wanna check out osme other stuff.
what to play? as i said, i dont want to focus on killing my enemy but rather winning with economy or diplomacy or anything else basically.

>>152613327
Certainly not Stellaris since they removed the embassies.

>>152612958
>he thinks ambassadors just touch themselves and that relationships just improve magically

No, apparently that's what you think by your idea that just slapping an embassy in another sovereign state automatically improves relations with them.

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>>152612876
what the fuck did your post have to do with mods jesus christ I need another coffee.

>>152612990
oh for
>pic?
I dunno, might be a version difference. I'm running 7.1

is this samefagging or you're giving attention to shitposters on purpose?

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>>152613031

>>152613704
7 is cute

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>>152534903
>Civilization V
>Starting out with the Tradition tree
Why would you even do this?

>Legalism
>By the time you get it, you only have two cities online
>You've already built a monument in your capital because at the start there's nothing else (other than the shrine) worth building
>That means you're spending policy points on ONE free monument

It only becomes worth it when you have four cities online and a few culture buildings unlocked, which might make it a good second policy tree but not a first one.

>>152613704
>>152614050
I want #1 to show me how much she knows about Dong culture

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what the FUCK is wrong with the AI in EL
like holy shit you just can't interact with these fucks at all
what the fuck kinda trigger was pulled that I can offer half the fucking natural resources of the entire planet for a SINGLE hyperium, and the AI won't fucking budge a micrometer on the disapproval of the deal. An AI that I literally never fucking went to war with and have spent more time at Peace then Cold War with.

What the fuck is going on?
It's a damn shame because this game had a lot of potential and great ideas but it never came to fruition.

>>152614343
you misunderstood the concept of a "small empire"
it doesn't mean you should build 4 cities as soon as possible you know
i've won many games with tradition and 2 cities

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>>152614591
You playing some outdated cracked version? What AI are you and what are they?

>>152614607
>you misunderstood the concept of a "small empire"
Not really. I just mean that if you take tradition as your first policy, legalism is worthless because at best it gives you 1 free monument and at worst it gives you nothing. I'm arguing that it's better to take something else and come back to legalism later.

>>152614591
>trying to get the AI to give up one single purple

you might as well kill them and take it.

>>152613704
>There isn't one for 1950s-1970s
>It isn't a loin cloth, a hat, and an AK-47
Missed opportunity.

>>152613704
I want 18 and 21 to take turns riding me and grinding my face.

>>152611637
Don't know if you already figured it out from earlier, but yes, civilian contracts are used to move installations that you build. They don't build them for you.

>>152614779

I'm playing legit all DLC version. Playing as Allayi hoping to trade Wild Walkers for Hyperium, when they wouldn't trade I decided to see if they would give me a single unit for everything I have and it wouldn't budge a bit. I don't man, I just don't know.

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>>152615363
I wasn't clear on it, thank you anon.

>
get back here you little shit I have to put mines on you

The board was a little slow on the draw for automated mines. But the comet does have a mass driver so it can deliver material from anywhere in the solar system.

Spirit came home for a refuel, and a whole mess of officers got purg--I mean removed from service as they hadn't done anything for over 6 years. Not really missing them, since I had nowhere to put them anyway.
Some production finished, and a new shipyard is on the way. First few years are a bit of a slog.

>>152615550
Get a few maxed out armies, then try to trade.

Alternatively, do shit like form friendships and alliances.

>>152616467
I think the Task Group window might be the worst interface I've ever used.

I can't just assign a ship from one task group to any another. An asteroid miner is stuck in the same TG as a survey ship, and I have no idea how to get it out without just deleting it. the naval organization tab is purely fluff as it doesn't let me override TG placement. the fleet window is utterly useless. and you can't moved ships between TGs from their ship window

what the actual fuck is this

>>152617685
You can select the ship you don't want in that TG and hit "Split TG," then you can rename the new TG

Yeah it's pretty bad though.

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>>152617685
apparently I have to enter SM mode to be able to move ships arbitrarily between TG's.

this would be equivalent to needing to elevate to godmode in like DWU to assign a ship to a new fleet

I...I need a drink.

>>152618054

>>152607801
All the wonders look to be things that you'd actually want to try for if you can realistically fit their build conditions into your infrastructure plan. I reckon it'll gel nicely with the district system.

But as literally every single person to have released footage of the prerelease game has said; caring about X giving you Y yields is the last thing to bother with.

3 MORE DAYS UNTIL THEY REVEAL TRAJAN! maybe

>>152622538
>Thursday
Why?

>>152623698
Why what?

>>152624334
Aren't reveals on Tuesday?

>>152624608
A new leader is revealed exactly every 8 days.

>>152614591
Well, for one thing, they're not idiots. If they've not got much of a supply of hyperium, they're going to be far more reluctant to give it away.
It's also possible their approval is low because they don't actually have any.

>>152613031
pretty sure one of the previous civ game had this feature, not sure if it was 3 of 4
also the palace growing "feature"

>>152628782
It was 3 with both the leader suits and the palace.
Itreally pisses me off when they take little features like that out in newer games. We're supposed to be improving in The Current Year, not becoming progressively less feature-full

>>152605223
here is one discussion from ages ago (I was the second poster)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=528742
as far as I can tell no script was made and we are still in the dark

to honest I think Civ5 was always a missed shot, can't remember an really awesome game that didn't get boring pretty quickly
looking forward to 6, as lots of things seems to recapture the feels of Civ4, yet lots of stuff seems to really make it a new game

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>>152615550
>Playing as Allayi hoping to trade Wild Walkers for Hyperium
You know you can just park your spooks on their Hyperium, or any Hyperium, and just steal it?

>>152629205
>>152628782
What was the palace feature?

>>152629685
There was just a screen with a palace on it.
I think you got to add new wings as you advanced through the eras.
It didn't DO anything, but it was fairly aesthetic.

>>152629205
what I said above >>152629517

I remember when 5 came out and literally half of the community dropped it instantly or kept working on 4
hopeful for 6, but still....
the thing Civ is in many ways like an glorified board game, lots of people want and try to play it as role play, a custom progression of history, but it just turns out to be a really complex chess maze
eg: reason grand strategy games from paradox (and perhaps endless legends) felt so good at first, it gives a more open experience, breathing room to play where you're not always focused on just win win win

>>152629685
basically once you've done enough Good Things or satisfied the RNG gods enough, you'd get a popup saying the people love you so much they want to expand your palace.

so you'd get taken to this interface which let you pick out an architectural style for your palace. it starts out as a cave and a couple slabs of rock but you build it up over time with these expansions into something resembling a palace.

you could mix-and-match architectural styles too. so you could have like, gothic palace with roman pillars out front with aztec side expansions. and top it off with some weeb shit.

it was neat. unfortunately didn't work with custom scenarios.

>>152629882
yeah it was basically useless, probably why got removed
also.... who here remembers the throne room?

>>152630069
i do
happiness let you upgrade features, right?

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Worth mention to the best Civ+Mod game you can play:
Legends of Revolutions (civ 4 uxp)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=319235

Star Ruler 2 at 6.25$ on Steam. Should I ? I know next to nothing of it.

I didn't like Stellaris. It's the same shit as CK2, only way to win militarly is exploit the game mechanics which I don't find fun at all.

>>152630556
>It's the same shit as CK2
This is the problem, it wasn't anything like CK2.
Stellaris could have been an amazing game if they made it CK2 in space, but they tried some half breed 4x/gs and it inhereted the worst traits of both parents.

And how is building a fleet exploiting game mechanics? That's all you need to do to win stellaris, build a fucking fleet.

>>152554513
Its pretty fun in the early game, then mid-game it gets really dull. There is no late game because no one is that much of a masochist.

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>>152630379
I have no clue,
> tfw you remember the throne
> you notice you been playin civ for almost 2 decades now
memefy!!!

>>152630939
Yeah, 1 fleet, 1 stack, same mechanics, same shallowness.

>>152631109
Because CK2 is a medieval incest and cuckoldry simulator, not a war game.

>>152631195
Yeah I agree, I love this part of the game and got tens if not hundred hours on the game. But as soon as wars start it's just a bore, and it happens more than often.

Even V2's simplistic war mechanics are light years ahead of either ck2/eu4/stellaris.

>>152630556
Anyway, anyone has any comment on SR2 ?

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>>152614798

City pop growth is everything in Civ V because Growth drives all else, which then drives science. the free aqueducts alone are worth it.

Tradition games are so easy, I've been getting into Piety lately and I gotta say it's a lot of fun. Feels trickier.

How often do you all get repeated crashes on the same turn in Civ V?

>>152630971
> Its pretty fun in the early game, then mid-game it gets really dull. There is no late game because no one is that much of a masochist
Strangely this is the opposite of Civ V, which I find quite dull until the industrial era at which point I start shotting out hammers and farms and everything becomes exciting because you actually have the resources to do stuff.

Whereas with Stellaris you also get resource explosion but there isn't anything interesting to do with it.

In all honesty - and I may sound like an 8-year-old here - I think a lot of the problem is graphics. In Civ V everything is vividly colourful and when you're scrolling around the map the different regions and nations are instantly recognisable. Whereas in Beyond Earth the map is all the same shade of washed-out blue, and in Stellaris you just have literally 1000 entirely interchangable solar systems where 90% of your screen is the same starfield every time.

Civ V LOOKS interesting. BERT and Stellaris do not.

>>152589197
so it's just like today :^)

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>chilling around in my empire exploring and researching
>suddenly despotic slavers declare war on me
>defend myself and the galaxy by wiping them out
>somehow I'M the bad guy

>>152633521
Nations care more about blobbing than morality.

>>152614343
>he thinks tradition is bad
Ahahahaha. No.