/4xg/ - Stellaris and 4X Games General

>>152794593
>New villages and new civilizations can pop up(if there are below 7 and the settings allow it).
Ha, this is an option in the second but I never bothered checking if there was a limit.

Same with the ressources, I always assumed new ressources spawned as the previous one were depleted, turns out it apparently doesn't.

>>152795869
>Ha, this is an option in the second but I never bothered checking if there was a limit.
Game has a hard limit on 7.
We had trouble getting a lan game going one time.
Since we were like 4 people in the game, but the game settings were on 6 AI civs.
So it crashed until we figured it out and lowered that number to 3.

I like it in theory, but too often a new civilization pops up, and they just surrender to an existing nation.

>I always assumed new ressources spawned as the previous one were depleted, turns out it apparently doesn't.
I think it works that way in the first one.
Not exactly, but around the time it depletes a new one pops up.

>>152795961
>Yeah you have gods as well.
>You need to kill an All High Frythan, and take the scroll of power for that.
>Then you can build your temple.
>Priests are villagers that you put to pray inside the temple.
Ha, in the second game, you spawn with your race's scroll and power and can build the temple immediately.
You usually don't because it's as expensive as a whore in Las Vegas.

>Just like that for researchers, miners and workers(war machines and turning raw materials into goods).
Yeah, except that you DON'T move peasants out of your town, they go there automatically and aren't displayed on the map.

Also, constructors can build all the buildings, military units (even the king) are restricted to camp, fort, and siege factory.

>You can place Constructors inside built buildings so they repair them.
You gradually pay to repair them, you can't send units in buildings. Except camps, forts and town. And sending a soldier in town means he retires.

>The greeks start with a shield
Ha, the only units who can use a shield in the second are the Ezpinez.

>>152796252
I'll have to experiment.

Oh boy, and excuse to boot up Seven Kingdoms 2 again! Jolly!

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>>152796381
>Yeah, except that you DON'T move peasants out of your town, they go there automatically and aren't displayed on the map.
Yeah, they don't move in the first one either.

Emaicheni in this pic has lines to all those structures, and is connected to them.
Those structures could all be empty, but villagers would automatically start working in those structures.
They would be listed in the structures as workers, but they exist in the village.

Forts are connected, but they draw villages in the same way.
Markets are connected, but they don't house any workers.

>you can't send units in buildings
You can send a villagers directly into one of these buildings, then they'd appear in the village, but they'd work in the building.

So if you get a hand on a great scientist, you can move it directly into the Scientist tower, but he'd live in the village.

>>152797150
Ha, I think I understand why I misunderstood you.

The thing is that you don't have "great" scientists, researchers, miners or what else. The only skill your units have is in combat and determines their HP and super-attacks.
Only the number of workers in the structure determines the outcome, not their skills.

>>152797330
>The thing is that you don't have "great" scientists, researchers, miners or what else. The only skill your units have is in combat and determines their HP and super-attacks.
Ah okay.

Yeah they all have a skill that can go up to 100.

A villager that starts in a scientists tower has 10, a villager Trained as a scientists gets 20.
But in the Inn you can find them all up to 100.

Usually I don't find it very important to buy great scientists though.
I'll do it mostly to just increase my pop then.
Getting a Soldier with 70+ Leadership in the inn is amazing though.
High leadership raises the combat skill of the soldiers in the fort quicker.
A fort is usually housed by a general and 9 soldiers training.

Combat skill sounds like it is the same.

Determines hp, and attacks/equipment.
200 hp at 100 combat skill.
I think you need like 20 for chinese to get bows. Maybe even 40 for normans to get their shields, even higher for vikings and samurai to get their super attacks, they're op though.

>Only the number of workers in the structure determines the outcome, not their skills.

The second spawn of mines tend to go out much quicker due to the miners having much higher skill.
Very tough to locate at that point, so I tend to set up a minor mining town and then move the goods to the main base where I have factories instead.

>>152798110
Shit, that makes the inn very interesting.

In the second game, you can either hire good soldiers (high combat), heroes (stats beyond the game's cap), items, or spies.

>A fort is usually housed by a general and 9 soldiers training.
I think it's doubled in the sequel, and the training is considerably slowed down.
But a few skirmishes and your general's leadership is usually maxed very quickly, and the soldiers' skill follow.
The formula for humans units is (combat skill) x 2 = MaxHP.

The fun part is that only the max HP are raised, the unit's HP stay the same, so they look like they're really hurt at the end of a fight.
Near mid/endgame you usually replace soldiers by siege machines anyway, but the soldiers are good to tank.

>>152798807
>Near mid/endgame you usually replace soldiers by siege machines anyway, but the soldiers are good to tank.
Yeah war machines are just too op in the first game as well.
100 combat japs are a lot harder to replace than ballistas too.
So I usually gimp myself and avoid war machines.


Max hp is raised faster while training than the hp is healed as well, so they look damage in 1 too.


What you find in the Inn is random btw.
So if you're looking for a Viking with good leadership it will of course not appear.

>>152799287
Of course. It's like when you have a Chinese neutral dangerously close to your border and you don't want to let the enemy capture it.

>>152795516
Sean Bean was a good choice for narration, as were the multiple tech quotes. It's the small things.

>>152800192
Shame the franchise dies after this.

>>152800353
Doesn't really matter, does it? V, hell even IV, is still going strong after all this time and I reckon VI will be a more enjoyable/fun experience all round from what we've seen. A few years of expansions and cashcowing via civ/leader dlc and we should have the basis of a game that will be active a long time.

>>152800353
unless thats a game of thrones joke
I dont see why civ will ever die unless they do something insanely retarded like W10 only, or f2p

>>152801347
Yeah it doesn't really matter.
It would be a shame, since I think new civ games offer new experiences, but I was still playing civ2 in 2010.


>>152801670
>unless thats a game of thrones joke
It's a sean bean joke

>>152801670
You don't know Sean Bean? Basically, if he's in a movie, and if he doesn't die, the movie is cursed to be shitty.

Example of a good movie where he dies : the Lord of the Rings.
Example of a shit movie where he survives : Silent Hill Revelations.

>>152802020
>>152802274
oh. my mistake.
maybe he'll get stabbed halfway through and get replaced by another narrator

>>152802381
I would love that.

I guess you could mod that in somewhat easily. Then after that just use civ4 or civ5 narration

>>152802381
>event : AI uprising
>Sean Bean get replaced by GladOS

So what Civs are for sure getting chooped for Civ 6, besides Mongolia which we know for sure.I want to do a Farewell to Arms playthru with just the civs that are going to be gone .

>>152802718
Why speculate? Isn't the whole list out already?
Maybe I misunderstood

>>152802718

vanilla civ list is already confirmed u fucking nerd

>>152803114
>>152802919
Where? You mean that picture that got leaked ?

>>152802718
http://well-of-souls.com/civ/civ6_overview.html#civilizations
the civ list is already leaked.
in terms of civs for dlc, no one knows. that whole 'we didnt put mongolia in because they raped people' is literally a meme thats spreading around. the producer doesnt say anything about mongolia in the video.

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>>152803215
Not him but Anon linked a video yesterday or the day before, and I saved and edited this. Due to the developer's video box covering the bottom of the in-game window, there might be plus 1 or 2 extra Civs on the list.

Reposting random tidbits from the Germany stream:

>Greeks have the Acropolis (Theatre Square replacement)
>Arabians have the Madrassa (Temple replacement)
>Norwegians have the Stave Church (Temple replacement) and Longship (Galleass replacement)
>Kongolese have the Shieldbearer (Swordsman replacement)
>Romans have the Bath (Aqueduct replacement)
>Indians have a Stepwell tile improvement

>>152805328
>>Romans have the Bath (Aqueduct replacement)

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looks like england wont be total shit after all.
>When you settle on a continent other than your home continent, receive a free melee unit.
which means that you'll probably have like 3 cities on your home continent followed by a shitload in other places.
>>152805530
I think this is hilarious
instead of fresh drinking water, the romans just use baths instead

>>152805328
I hope this is true, somehow

>>152805723
>not drinking your waifu's bath water
How can you say you love her if you don't do that?

>>152805791
why would it not be true? the civ fanatics people fucking tear through anything that pops up. they have pictures of everything. the current tech tree they have is glitched to show unique replacements for things, so if you hover over swordsmen, you'll also see what it replaces.

>>152805328
>Romans have the Bath (Aqueduct replacement)
What.
>Romans have this thing they're extremely famous for
>instead of this thing they're extremely famous for
WHY.
You know what would've made more sense? They get the Cloaca Maxima as an aqueduct replacement. Fully functioning sewers were pretty much the peak of roman sanitation architecture and would be a great fit.

>>152805992
Thx for making my dreams true, senpai

>>152806158
Presumably it's because Trajan is the leader (and Trajan baths are still famous to this day) and they couldn't think of any other civ to have an Aqueduct replacement. Nearly every district has a unique version at this point.

>>152805328
Fun fact about this: Norway gets their unique unit up in the Ancient era for some reason.

Bump. Also, I'm going to bed.

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>page 10
>again
Well, I guess we're dead for good.

>>152812314
it's the calm before the storm

>>152812383
What is that?

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>>152795516
Speaking as a denizen of the late /cbg/, I'm ok with letting the thread merge into this one.

>>152812535
Diversity.

>>152805328
>>152805530
I find the bath replacing the aqueduct ironic given how much aqueducts were associated with the Roman Empire.

>>152812631
Just checked, it's Endless Legend. Didn't even knew the Allayi had Light and Dark forms.

>>152812867
The forms change depending on season. The only reason you wouldn't know that if you have never get to the first winter.

>>152813261
Or maybe I never played with them.
Necrophages for life.

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Let's play a fun game. What civs do you think will be introduced with expansions and DLC?

>>152813330
Hopefully more europeans factions. I can't wait to see all the salty tears on CivFanatics' SJWs threads.

>>152813330
They must be steamed already,only one black and one mesoamerican civ so far

>>152813330
Persia and Mongols.

Also that >>152813456

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>>152813456
>New Centro/South America Civ
>New Spain
I just want this to happen to see the butthurt

>>152813456
>>152813330
There's barely any of Europe left; the four DLC packs they put out are going to have to cover the other continents simply out of necessity (calling that any DLC involving corporations will add a bunch of American civs).

>>152815502
why
And I'm pretty sure that the four DLC will mostly be Civ-adding, perhaps leader-adding, like the early DLC for Civ V. There will be expansion packs later on, that where the features will be introduced.

>>152815502
We still need the Dutch and Portuguese so they can pack in a colonize-the-new-world scenario.

There are lots of civs that have been in several installments of the series now, I see no reason why most of those can't come back.

>>152815629
>colonize-the-new-world scenario.
and that will trigger them even more

>>152816007
SJWs really don't seem to pay attention to the Dutch or Portuguese, or even the Spanish.

Stuff the Spanish did seem to get blamed on the USA for some reason.

>>152816007
>>152816220
Isn't the UI theme based on the Age of Exploration? There's no way all that stuff won't be in at some point.

>>152815629
>Dutch and Portuguese
They're already in the game :^)

Main players of European politics not currently featured:
>Portugal
>Netherlands
>Poland
>Austria
>Venice
>Something Papal

We know from the deluxe edition there will be four DLC packs, so maybe 1-2 Euro civs will come in each pack?

>>152817142
Will we ever see Italy?

http://well-of-souls.com/civ/civ6_overview.html#city-states
you can also look at these, and normally (at least in civ 5) they get some city states and turn them into civs

>>152817236
Unitied Italy will always be represented by Rome.

>>152817236
Probably not with Rome around, Venice is as close as we came.

>>152817142
Don't forget Denmark and Sweden.

>>152813330
Korea will get in at some point, South Korea is a huge gaming market.

Could we ever get Romania? Vlad is certainly a strong personality.

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>>152818242
>there will never be a game with Corneliu Zelea Codreanu leading Romania
goddamnit

>>152818242
I think Romania would be cool, but there would likely be lots of other civs to make it in first.

I would be surprised if most of the 43 civs from Civ V didn't make it in, unless Firaxis goes full Paradox with DLC and they need more historical candidates.

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>>152818402
>Corneliu Zelea Codreanu
This man is such a meme to me. I laugh my ass off everytime I see some tryhard /pol/tard with him as their avatar.

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>play 50 turns
>quit
>play 20 turns
>quit
>play 100 turns
>quit
>actually get into a game, chuggin' along, game session ends
>next boot up, new game
>repeat

>>152802274
National Treasure, your argument is invalid.

What are the odds of Prussia ever being more than a meme modded civ?

>>152820219
Bad, usually Germany takes their role, right now to Bismarck being a leader.

Most of modern Germany basically takes its stuff from Prussia anyway.

>>152817332
>Nan Madol
I almost think Pohnpei will be a civ just because of how random that is.

So, I only recently bought Stellaris. Is there any way to increase my odds of getting jump drive tech? Materialist, so psi tech is pretty much out of the question.

Also, is there extra dimensional weaponry two? I could have sworn I saw the card for it pop up once, but my game bugged out and I couldn't research it.

>>152823323
>so psi tech is pretty much out of the question.
Leaders have a chance to get a new skill upon level up.

So getting low level scientists and quickly leveling them up can increase your odds.


As for hte other jump drive tech, check the wikis technology page.
It has multipliers on it.

No extra dimensional weaponry 2 afaik, it's the weapon you get from unbidden right?

>>152823508

Yeah, the Unbidden weaponry. Tough bastards, they were.

Speaking of leveling up leaders, how exactly does that work?

Which wiki should I be using? When I Google it, it gives me a couple to choose from.

>>152823323
Jump Drive is at the end of the wormhole technology branch, so you can only get it if you picked wormhole travel at the start of the game.
Psi Jump Drive is at the end of the psi branch, so if you're materialist you're basically shit outta luck. It is 'technically possible' to luck out with scientist traits and thereby unlock it, but it requires the RNG gods to smile on you so many times in succession that it's not worth mentioning.

Basically if you're non-wormhole and materialist you're stuck in the slow lane all game.

As for extradimensional weaponry, I've never seen a second tier. Also I don't think non-repeating techs have second tiers anyway. I will just add though that you can scavenge it from Fallen Empires too, not just Unbidden.

>>152802274
Sharpe. So go fuck yourself.

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Bumping with OP pseudo-DLC wonder.

>playing ocean world lizard race
>neighboring system at the very has FOUR habitable planets
>all 17+ tiles and no filthy primitives to worry about

Is this what hitting the jackpot feels like?

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A fucking horse has more accolades than you ever will bump.

>>152833870
most of the wonders are op. this one isnt that op, though.
>+1 Amenity from entertainment for each adjacent Lake tile. +1 Food and +1 Production for each Lake tile in your empire. Must be built on a Lake tile adjacent to land.
now thats pretty fucking big. but lake tiles can be really hard to come by since lakes are landlocked patches of water (no bigger than 3-4 tiles) at least in civ 5. so unless they changed that, its not going to be a wonder to build your civ around, nor some super gamechanger.

>>152836913
it seems like it would be a wonder that depends on map type. If they bring back the Lakes map from Civ V, it'll be pretty wacky on that map, but less so on shit like Archipelago

Does anybody have a link to the civ 5 warmonger formula stuff Marbozir talks about in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEvqNdxHGMg at around 20 minutes in?

Have y'all heard of Proxima Centauri B? It may be habitable.

You can't unlock jump drive or psi jump drive by researching debris from destroyed ships, can you? Excluding fallen empire ships, of course.

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Purity > Supremacy > Harmony

>>152841397
INCLUDING fallen empire ships, no.

You can only ever scavenge weapons and shields/armour; not engines, computers, radius effects, anything like that.

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Off topic bump?

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>>152841848
> Beyond Earth

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>>152843918
>Don't talk about 4x games that I don't like in this dying 4x thread, I'd rather the thread die then you talk about 4x games that I don't like.

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>>152844030
You can talk about any 4x game that you want in here.
I'll just be here to always shit on the shitty ones.

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>>152844172
>implying you can't play more than one 4x game

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>>152844428
>Implying that I implied such a thing.

>>152844172
Why tho?

>>152844514
What you said was an obvious insult. You don't insult something unless you are trying to dissuade someone from doing it. You are telling someone to stop playing 4x games and to stop posting about 4x games.

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>shit out a bunch of mounted units early game
>kill all of a civilizations units but can only barely take their cities due to mounted against city penalty
>if I don't kill all my mounted units taking cities then I'll just be left with a tonne of units killing my treasury
>UI is a fucking boulder
I'm not going to like playing as this civ. Probably fun to have as a neighbor though.

>>152844860
To be clear, we aren't sure if there is a penalty for mounted units against cities yet.

BE isn't even that bad. It's not as good as BNW, but it's playable. It gets repetitive fairly quick though since whether you are warmongering or just trying to win an affinity victory you always progress down the same techs for affinity points.

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>>152844647
I just gave you my opinion. It's on you how you choose to interpretate my motives for doing so.

>>152844530
Because who doesn't.

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>>152845282
I doesn't.

>>152838059
bumping

I can't stand it, I know you planned it
But I'm gonna set it straight this watergate
But I can't stand rockin' when I'm in this place
Because I feel disgrace because you're all in my face
But make no mistakes and switch up my channel
I'm buddy rich when I fly off the handle
What could it be, it's a mirage
You're scheming on a thing - that's sabotage

hey yall im looking for some stellaris modding advice

so I'm using the codex (pirated) version of stellaris with the 1.2.4 update (also pirated ofc) and the game runs fine, but I can't seem to get any mods to work. When I went to the stellaris folder in Documents, there was no mod folder so I created one, but when I put the mods in there they don't show up in the mods list on the launcher so they can't be turned on. I'm using the mods from the archive in the op if it helps.

Anyone know whats going on or how to fix it?

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>>152841173
it's already inhabited by massive qts

>>152847406
This isn't some moon, anon. It's a planet. A planet 1.4 times the mass of Earth.

>>152802274
He didn't die in The Martian, and that movie was great, fucko.

>>152815502
>There's barely any of Europe left
You lack imagination. You can have the French, the Franks, the Gauls...

>>152819386
What's that?

>>152828023
>a movie
>Sharpe
Holy shit, you went full retard.

>>152849052
A movie with Nicholas Cage and Sean Bean where Bean doesn't die but the movie is nevertheless fairly enjoyable.

>>152849313
>Nicholas Cage
>good
Hmmm....

>>152820219
With meme magic, anything is possible
https://youtu.be/NVbH1BVXywY?t=102

>>152850735
>Ivan the Terrible
>Grozny
>Terrible
Every time. And then they ask why chechens terrorizing the west.

>>152849390
>he didn't like national treasure
you might just hate good things, anon

>>152849390
Are you implying the Ghost Rider movies aren't literally the finest recorded acting samples of our generation?

>>152852657
IM GAY
MY BALLS
ACHE
FOR
SPERMS
WILL
HAVE YOUR
CUNT

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>boot up Seven Kingdoms 2, think to myself "I'll just check if ressources repop once they ran out
>ended up destroying an Indian kingdom, waited for the Roman kingdom and the Exovum kwyzan to duke it out and arrived later to kill them both
>Exovum died like a bitch (hahahaha because they're wolves, geddit?)
>Romand kingdom survived longer, but his military from slaughtered and because I destroyed all their infrastructures and generals, they had massive revolts that eventually made them extinct
>Indian kingdom survived because I forgot about it, eventually accepted to sell his throne for 50 000€
>allied with the last Minotaurus kwyzan
>won
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Ha, it coulda gone better if I didn't forgot about my spy. He died as a roman, fighting the Exovum.
A true patriot.

Still about Seven Kingdoms 2, it's sad how retarded the AI is.
Maybe it's because I set it to not be too aggressive, but it's really easy. It will frenquently send its king to fight, and the AI kwyzans have trouble making new warriors, so each loss they have is definitive, until they run out of units.

>>152853109
>>152854740
Is it possible to play that game online?

Well that's fun.

Hadn't played Stellaris since launch patch.
Decided to try a new game updated.
Now when I loaded my home system isn't accessible.
When I enter it it's just empty, and I can't move anything from it.

>>152857757
Ah nevermind.
I opened up the wrong version.

Opened up 1.0 and loaded my 1.2.5 game.

>>152857839
HAHAHAHAHAHAH

Anybody has Plantoid DLC dl link?

Haven't played stellaris since release
You all said they'd fix it

Well, what's been fixed?
Anything major changes?
More importantly, have they added rally points for new ships?
Auto scanning debris for science vessels?

These two were my biggest issues desu
Thanks for replying

>>152859164
>You all said they'd fix it
I don't think anybody has said anything but the opposite.

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IT"S HAPPENING, Planet has been found! I repeat, Planet has been found!

http://www.space.com/33834-discovery-of-planet-proxima-b.html

Proceed to the seed ship in a calm and orderly fashion. May the Believers claim Chiron!

>>152859398
>>152841173

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>>152859398
NEPTUNE BLESS US
WE SHALL CONQUER AND PREVAIL

>>152859164
Swedes have been on vacation for the past two months, heinlein isnt even coming out until october, nothing has changed yet. Unlike most sane developers who push small changes between big updates paradox only pushes small changes if its a bug fix. All game changes are relegated to big updates that they only push out every 3 to 6 months.

>early game
>find anomaly in my space, shows presentients
>great, proles for future mining planets
>send a colony ship
>it uses a different path than the safe one used by previous science ship and gets shot down
>I save scum and use the autosave
>I don't get the anomaly, the presentient proles don't exist anymore
feck

>>152859164
>More importantly, have they added rally points for new ships?
there is a mod that does this
>Auto scanning debris for science vessels?
right click a system with debris, select 'research projects'

science ships can't be fully automatic AFAIK

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Come get a taste you fucking Unbidden
YOU HAVE TO GO BACK

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>>152862581
I can't see that going wrong. <sarcasm>

Why is Turb0's trnaslation so bad? Reading Kumo's adventure at first was fun, but now it's a pain in the ass.

>>152862581
fortresses are so fucking shit

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Somebody please >>152865041
>>152865041
>>152865041

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>>152865093
Yes they are, but I have found that they at least act as effective speedbumps for AI fleets. Because the shit combat mechanics oblige 100k fleets to drift slowly towards 4k fortresses until all the ones in range have been destroyed, cramming 30 of them in one system serves as a time-trap that'll lock down your opponent for literal years.

As an aside, have they changed how surveying works? I never find anomalies in foreign territory any more. It looks a lot like they 'solved' the "Trade Star Charts" problem by removing all the fun it was possible to trade away in the first place.

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>>152865326

> Traits
Charismatic (so other races like living with your species more than their own, causes them to migrate to your worlds)
> Ethos:
Xenophile (so you can build the Visitor's Center, encourages immigration)
Collectivist (lets you temporarily enslave badthink aliens to encourage them to convert to hippie-ism)
Spiritualist (decreases ethics drift so you people don't un-hippie-fy, also unlocks the government you need)
> Gub'mint
Transcendent Oligarchy (again, cuts down ethos divergence to keep your people from turning rayciss)

>Play Greece and go for diplomatic victory
>Everyone bullies Ethiopia and takes all their cities except for the capital (3 mongols, 2 dutch, 1 spain)
>Late game, about to get the win.
>Ethiopia keeps sending me their shitty prophets and converting my cities
>Tell him to stop
>Finally get tired and invade him, conquer his capital
>Hurr you warmonger we denounce nao
Why is this game so retarded sometimes?

>>152813330

I mean, guaranteed ones are Mongolia, Poland, and Persia, highly likely ones being Inca, Babylon, Byzantium, Huns, Austria/Austria-Hungary, Mali/Songhai

>>152866312
Because if you're ever at war with anybody and you take a single city you're literally Hitler.

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>>152866312
The AI will denounce you at some point no matter what.

Last game, I was best friends with China, trade, vote for their shit in congress, same ideology, denounce their enemies, etc.

Then, shortly before the modern era, they go LOL I DENOUNCE U for no fucking reason.

The diplo screen showed nothing but green, positive things and a nice fat THEY DENOUNCED YOU in red.

The only solution is pic related.

>>152866312
You invaded them at the wrong time, had you declared war when they were also at war you'd get relationship bonus instead

Also you wiped them out, this gives much more warmonger penalty than anything else

>>152813330
Persians, Ottomans, Poortugal, Dutch, Mongols, Zulu, Byzantines are all shoe-ins

would not be surprised to see Mayans, Incas, at least one North American Native civ, and at least one SE Asian/Oceania civ

>>152803513
>>152804349
>Gorgo
>Two Greeces, must have some literally who Spartan woman who never ruled because of some pseudohistorical meme film from 10 years ago
>No Persia
>but must have some leader whose sole accomplishment is possibly killing a Persian emperor
Is this some kind of joke?

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>>152866312
>not joining in on the bullying while it's still cool and making friends with the big kids so they can stop allahu akbars from ruining britain later on and you can rack up the jew gold
>not using adjustable mods to carefully rebalance the game to make the AI somewhat less retarded

>>152804349
the people who have me question marking are Isabella and Jadwiga, who weren't in the stream leak

maybe they're also DLC civs?

>>152867490
Look at the leaders.

They're all joke figures.

>>152864643
Because he speaks neither English nor Japanese fluently. Just grind past and you'll get to Raising the Dead, which is generically okay.

>>152867490
>no Persia
>no Turks
>no Mongols
>no Dutch
>no Portuguese
>but we have Scythia and Kongo

>>152868080
I'm at the Elf battle part and I really am forcing myself to keep reading.

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how the hell to i build a fleet large enough to protect against intergalactic invaders?

>>152868182
Oh
The Elf battle is the shittiest part of the story bar none even if it's necessary, just bear with it. I'm pretty sure Vampire takes the spotlight after and she's pretty cool.

>>152868351
Can't you just say what happens so that I can skip it? I only really care about Kumo and how she shapes the world.

>>152868481
Eh...
If you really need to just skip it entirely.

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TODAY IS THE DAY OF HAPPENINGS

Endless Legend closed beta for the next expansion has been announced!

DEEPEST, DANKEST SEA EXPANSION!

https://www.games2gether.com/endless-legend/blog/464-announcing-endless-legend-tempest-closed-beta-contest

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Why doesn't Firaxis just hire JFD (alongside Janboruta maybe)? He did massive effort to improve their game, his mods and (most of) his civs are outstanding. He added so much depth and made civ what we wanted it to be.

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>This expansion will introduce the Morgawr, an aquatic-based Major Faction specialized in naval warfare and manipulation of other creatures. Factions will now be able to fight for dominance of the oceans through the control of sea fortresses, although they will have to wrestle these from the grasp of the Fomorians, a new Minor Faction.

>>152869232
He just added a bunch of civs.
That is not very hard for any firafix employe to do.

>>152869232
because you dont hire modders. they want very specific things, rarely work well in teams, and dont work well under pressure.

>>152869232
>improve their game
Precisely why they wouldn't

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Naval Warfare: Naval battles for everyone! You will be able to battle on the seas. All seaborne units can instigate and reinforce sea battles. Exotic mechanics and tile effects spice up this new type of battle!

Ocean Control with Weather System: Arcane structures have emerged from beneath the waves: these Endless relics provide strategic and luxury resources as well as other bonuses to the empire able to control them. To do so, their mysterious guardians must be parlayed with or defeated in battle. The same guardians will patrol “wild” ocean regions, making them a lot less safe to cross without a convoy. Expect clouds, rain and storms to appear on your map.

Sea Fortresses and Minor Faction Fomorians: New generated ocean regions, including a Sea Fortress, offer strategic locations in the water for players to battle it out. Anywhere from zero to three fortresses are located in each ocean region, so expect more in oceans that are more strategically pivotal, between islands or continents.

>>152869232
Fuck off JFD.

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No one cares about sea expansion?

>>152869725
are those carriers? And are those resources on top of the fortress?

>>152869910
I stopped caring about Endless Legend when the enemy hero respawned immediately after I killed him.

>>152869479
>He just added a bunch of civs.
he did so much more

>>152869481
eh fair point

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>>152869989
Sea resources yes. And transport ships. I doubt they house airplanes.

>>152870043
Heroes never die. They respawn after a couple of turns or immediately if you have the Dust for it.

This looks like to be the last expansion for Endless Legend. After that they'll be working only on Endless Space 2 and two other mystery projects.

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>>152869910
it was a missing feature, seem cool enough
will pirate!

but right now playing pic rel

>>152869910
>necrophages ships are giant monsters
Thanks for the nightmares, the zergs in Starcraft weren't enough.

>>152869232
Because all modders are prima donna little bitches who want things to be done THEIR way and will leave and then trashtalk you if you don't do exactly as they want.
They're all entitled little faggots who think that because they can replace textures, they can do the concept arts guy's job and do the entire game by themselves, without having to test the balance, try to be original, or try to not rip from pop culture too much.

>>152870123
>>152870270

is that sum Thea?

>>152868617
>one construction ship
>4 science ship
How queer. How far are you in the game?

>>152870430
23 years.

Haven't used any frontier outposts yet, so extra construction ships haven't been needed really.

>>152870597
>23 years
So pretty early game, huh?

>>152870650
Yeah just corvettes, and rank 2 of a basic weapon.

My first game on launch I used a lot of frontier outposts and expanded slowly, now I did rapid expansion of large planets up to my core limit and avoided frontier outposts.
Now I think I will save influence up to near cap, maybe edict and build a few outposts.

>>152867490
The point isn't to have all the best-qualified Civs in the initial release, but to have a mix of the best-qualified and some stranger ones. This way the other best-qualifieds can be used to drive expansion packs.

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>>152868286
anybody?

>>152870123
>SERIOUS LOVE

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>>152868617
> Meme Aliens
Beware lad, they get stronk

>>152871325
Show leader
If it isn't a keksandra portrait I riot alone

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>>152871145
I got shrekt by them recently, but managed to turn it around over the course of about 20 years. Particle lances with bombardment computers are your friend. And they basically just swat anything smaller than cruisers like flies, so give that a miss.

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>>152871325
ALIENS GET OUT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>152871595
i've got tachyon lances, i just can't seem to deal with the sheer volume of them, it really is a scourge

>>152869232
I haven't seen a single case where getting a modder to a dev team was a good idea

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>>152872267
Oh wait, you said intergalactic, my recipe's for interdimensional.
Only time the Scourge ever appeared in my game it was back in 1.0 when the AI was bugged so they'd just sit on the edge of the galaxy sharting themselves and being no threat to anyone. I have no experience fighting them off.

>>152872420
The only example I know is Daikatana.

We all know how that turned out.

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wut

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>>152873006
Stop calling them barbarians, it's demeaning.

>>152873006
wot

>>152871145
1) battleships
2) lances
3) forget shields, use crystal hitpoint modules instead

>>152873103
>roman empire conquered by barbarians
pottery

So I decided to go for an Epic CBP game as the Brits
Is it normal to end the game with 7000+gpt, 3000 culture pt and 100+ happiness?

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>>152872936
Man, the planets still look like shit. Strangest thing is that they looked fantastic in ES1.

>>152873226
>forget shields, use crystal hitpoint modules instead
onlything i haven't done yet, i'll follow that advice and see how it goes.

in general are more hull points, armor, or shields better? if im getting rid of shield should i have something to help me ships heal automagically?

>>152795516
>Best girl
Why is Dido considered best girl?

>>152873313
Must be an oceanic planet.

>>152870356
yeah, the events and stories are amazing
really good for lore lovers
gonna get some map screenshots

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>>152873453
>>152873313

>>152873368
it's called having taste

>>152873620
>Liking lying snakes
>good taste

>>152873620
How illuminating.

>>152873556
Each time I see a screenshot of ES, I want to reinstall it because the UI is neat.

And each time I remember how bad the AI is and I don't.

>>152873006
>>152873103
how its even possible for barbs to conquer so much like this?
never had these problems while playing
eg: it was in civ4, I think the revolution mod, that allow barbs cities to spawn new minor civs

>>152873620
> its called having shittaste
there, fixed it

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>>152873786
>how its even possible for barbs to conquer so much like this?
It's one of the more aggressive Barbarians mods.
>>152873729
>And each time I remember how bad the AI is and I don't.
Let's hope their promises for improved AI in ES2 prove true.

>>152873924
I just want an AI that won't cheat constantly and rub it in my face.
>takes me 3 turns to make ONE ship
>takes the AI 3 turns to make an ENTIRE FLEET

>>152873494
I played it a bit but never manged to get too far into the game without losing

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who else think barbs in civ are bullshit?
they play like a civ but aren't actually a civ, the deal is if are left untouched in a continent, they just keep spawning an ocean of barbs units
but in reality barbarian tribes are not even friendly to each other,
they should have been minor barb civs instead, that with time could develop into civilized or something else...
essentially they have minor tribe civs instead of useless city-states... done

>>152874054
yeah, its kinda pretty good actually
is pretty comfy and adorable, all the while being unforgiving
but be true, how did you lose? didn't you just give up after some bad shit happened?

>>152870356
Thea?

>>152874459
ran out of villagers and got overunned after a bad call regarding one of those god quests, I'll admit it's very tempting to ragequit from time to time though.

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>>152874303
>go to australia in 1050 AD
>the fucking abbos have composite bows and forged armour and shoot in formations
>not just a bunch of naked black people throwing sticks at kangaroos
IMMERSION RUINED REEEE

>Arabs ruled by a Kurd
>French ruled by an Italian
>Egyptians ruled by a Macedonian
C U C K E D

>>152873712
>Liking lying snakes
Even the Romans admit that she was being more reasonable than Aeneas and that the only reason he isn't an irredeemable cunt is because the Gods will it so and he's Rome's ancestor.
Mind you this is a Carthaginian WOMAN they're praising over a Roman man so they should've taken any chance they had to shit on her, but they couldn't.

>>152875716
>French ruled by an Italian
If it's a Napoléon joke, I'll wage war on your ass and terraform is into a volcano.

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>>152875716
>Macedonian

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>>152875918
Catherine DE MEDICI you colossal ignorant.

>>152874303
In Civ IV if you turn on Barbarian World and use that one option to let them spawn into real civilizations, the way Barbarians act is basically like miniature tribes. The fact that they don't attack each other can be rationalized with the idea that they ARE, you just don't give enough of a shit about them to know that tribe A just got taken over by tribe B since it's still two tribes. If you leave them alone for long enough they eventually grow into new civilizations that weren't in the game at start. If you use the New World option it gets even better.

>>152874708
yeah unfortunately.... it all can got to shit really fast
I confess, I saved scum once, after nearly loosing everyone at once
>>152874604
Thea the Awakening

>>152876034
>catherine de medici
>leader of France
Qu'est ce que putain de quoi?

Last time I checked, we had KINGS in France.

>>152876150
She's a regent so for a short time she was reigning queen.
She is also, admittedly, influential domestically and somewhat internationally during a period of time that was important to France and Europe as a whole (and therefore important to the world since by that time Europe was on the fast track to surpass Asia as a whole)

>>152876039
I was pretty sure the barb spawn civ was an option for Revolution or one of those mods
gosh getting the feelings to miss Civ4, feeling like playing it again

but anyway, the issue was with them being left alone and just spawning units non stop, so when you reach them, its completely filled with units, where as lore wise, they should still have low numbers

>>152876292
My fucking ass.
Even Richelieu would be a better leader, and he was a cardinal, not even from the royal family.

>>152876292
More importantly, she's a woman, which is important for some reason.

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>>152876550
It would have been glorious.

>>152873342
Nanobot cloud on one of your BBs, maybe put a self-heal thing in one slot to help the bot cloud along.

The problem with armor is that most endgame weapons ignore most of it, the problem with shields is they cost shit-tons of energy.

Early game, you can still go with evasion and some shields (good against the amoeba nd crystals), once you get cruisers and BBs go with whatever suits your current enemy (look at their fleets).

It's a good idea to put some PD on everything. It won't save your shitty throwaway corvettes and destroyers, but it'll help.

>>152876642
This painting always looks like something out of Warhammer 40K or some similarly impossibly large-scale sci-fi rather than a real, physically comprehensible image.

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what went wrong?

>>152876642
Holy shit, I only ever saw Richelieu in that dress, I never saw him in armour.

He's majestic as fuck.
10/10 would take the arms for him.

>>152876550
Richelieu wasn't an actual leader though. He was influential but he wasn't even the explicit leader. Catherine gets the ticket because she was technically regent at a point so she was also queen regnant for a short while.

>>152876607
Right but that doesn't imply she wasn't at least somewhat influential. At any rate while she's a cop out she's not as bad as shit like Gorgo or Kongo.

>>152876470
Maybe? I forgot, I've only been playing C2C lately.

>>152873712
That's part of the appeal.
She's a very, very bad girl behind her prachy demeanor, and needs you to make her be a good girl.
She's Punic and likes to be punished is what I'm saying.

>>152876804
Yeah first time I saw that pic I was imagining them defending against fantastical sea giants or something.

>>152877184
Spankfag, please. Stay in /nepgen/.

>>152876810
consoles started ruining everything, 'mobile games' finished the job

>>152876932
Richelieu saved Louis XIV when he was just a lil lad and trained him to be one of the best king France had.

>>152877329
I was thinking some light bondage and forced orgasms, but okay.

>>152877454
He still isn't a defacto leader. Jeanne d'Arc literally handed Charles the crown on a silver platter to the point where the English wanted to prove she was a demon so they could have Charlie excommunicated for selling his soul to Satan.

>>152877554
Please stay.

>>152875868
I was referring to her ingame behaviour
I mean, she is always a lying snake in game, more than most AI's

>>152877554
Dido is for tender love, not bondage

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>>152876810
>tfw there are aspects of this game i enjoyed and think could be added to the rest of the Civ series
>tfw one of those is being added to Civ VI

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>>152872471
when u librate these pre space faring races and enlighten tp create an influence farm, only to fin d out that the first that reaches space age will terror bomb all the others

>>152876695
are strike craft worth it at all?

right now im really only concerned with the scourge, and so far the tachyon lances long range has been working beautifully

>>152876642
is that painting for real?
it really looks glorious

>>152795516
boudica is best girl desu

>>152878134
Henri Motte, Le Grand Siège de La Rochelle

>>152878394
I used to be a great fan of David, but Henri Motte looks okay too.

>>152876932
C2C?

and I think you forgot the point of who actually rules and what not...
most kings actually did very little ruling, chancellors and etc probably meant much more, why the council is so important
>things I learned in CK2

>>152878631
>C2C
Caveman 2 Cosmos.

>and I think you forgot the point of who actually rules and what not...
Not relevant, he was never a leader of his nation so he can't be chosen. Confucius is probably clear away the most influential guy in all of Asia but he can't be leader.

>>152877916
>Revolutions had extra aspects
???

>>152878874
ow, awesome, that little mod was pretty good as well (little I say and regret)
what were major points included with it?

>>152879001
Well it starts in 50k BC for one and your first priority technology is language, gathering (as in foraging for food) and persistence hunting.
It also makes religions unique, druidic traditions lets you build nature circles that give a massive boost to food for every resource nearby and Stonehenge provides unique bonuses (like pilgrimages) for druidic nations.

>>152879223
>Well it starts in 50k BC for one and your first priority technology is language
If you play on an earth map can you migrate over certain areas that are later just water?

Would be fun if a civ like game took animals into greater account.
Diseases, which animals are available for domestication.

Would be fun to migrate over the america, but then you make a note of not wiping out the megafauna.
Or you just block off other humans from migrating over to the americas so it's empty once people become real civs.

Any HoMM game worth it?
I have fond memories of the third, but it probably aged badly.
The fourth was fun with the caravans, but it removed undead and mixed them with demons.
The fifth was brutal as fuck.
The sixth has that gonnorhea Uplay.

>>152878024
Fighters kill missiles and other strike craft very well, bobmers deal a fuckton of damage if they get through.

But most of the time the AI uses PD now, which can reall blunt the bombers.

All in all, in the unmodded game, bombers will take too long to get to the targets.

If you use things like More Shipclassese, they become a lot more viable simply because the new ships survive long enough so that the lance duel takes long enough for them to get to their target, and the stations and ships have more hangar slots that allow adding them to the mix without gimping your lance braodside.

>>152879587
>If you play on an earth map can you migrate over certain areas that are later just water?
You can't because of the way the game is built, there are certain large animals that later just flat out disappear (Giant Ground sloths and Mammoths) if you don't catch and domesticate them in time.
That being said cities become more and more self-sufficient as the game goes on and become more or less independent of their tiles, by the time you're in the classical era the tiles provide like 10% of your hammer and commerce total if that.
Animals are a huge fucking deal, the first guy to rush a Great Hunter has a massive edge on everyone else - every animal killed gives food and hammers to the nearest city which is massive when turn-by-turn hammer yields are like 10 in early game an a single elephant provides that much
Capturing an animal lets you build special buildings like enclosures, farms, and breeding grounds not to mention the insanely useful Myth and Story buildings which provide Science and Education / Literacy respectively.
Diseases are huge too, if you don't build sewers and baths and shit your disease counter ticks up over time which gives special buildings with penalties to Health, then to Happiness, then to shit like hammers and commerce. There's also a crime counter that you can boost if you make Bandit units and stick them near enemy cities, high crime is disgustingly deadly. You also have air and water pollution that are usually not a problem until somewhere around renaissance.

>>152879618
>I have fond memories of the third, but it probably aged badly.
It actually didn't.

Homm2 is an improved homm1.
Homm3 is a different take on the formula from the previous 2 games.
Homm2 and Homm3 are both decent to come back to.
Homm2 is harder early-mid game, but I think it is easier to break late game.
Homm2 and homm3 have very different takes on balance.

In homm3 every unit can upgrade and each tier are comparable or not terribly far off from the other faction units in the same tier.
That is not the case in homm2.
Homm2s balance come from the knights having cheaper units, and can get their stuff earlier than the Warlock.

Homm3 is much easier to handle when it comes to money, since a capitol can support the dwelling cost of almost any town. Tower is a bit off among a few others, but easily fixed with some minor outside incomes.
while you can't even build all your dragons each week with just a Warlock town in homm2.

4th sucks. Unplayable mess.
Stay away from it, your memory of it is wrong.

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> Thea the Awakening
right, gonna post shit about the game
seems like very few people know about it
I found it pretty interesting and fun to play
its mainly survival and rpg, combined with strategy and exploration
here my settlement, in a comfy spot,
you have to set out expeditions to camp out and gather resources,

>>152880285
What about the fifth and the sith?
>inb4 you're actually writing it

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>>152880151
>(Giant Ground sloths and Mammoths) if you don't catch and domesticate them in time.
Oh but you can domesticate them if you seek out to do it and keep them to later eras?
That's pretty awesome.

>>152880376
Not him but 5th is fun, just slightly different
6th is garbage except for the succubi and ghost waifus I guess, also Anastasia is a qt.

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>>152880354

Wanted to start it next week. Seems pretty fun. Currently playing Eador.

>>152880376
I don't consider myself informed enough on them.

I didn't care about the factions enough to give them a chance.
Seemed to bland.
I've heard people say that homm5 is good with expansions though, comparable to homm3 which is what the games in the series weigh themselves against.

The water faction in homm6 was cool though, but homm6 simplified the resource system.

Different factions in the earlier games require different resources to different degrees.

You have Sulfur, Mercury, Crystals and Gems.
In homm6 there are just Blood Crystals.
For example In homm2 you can specifically deny the warlock Sulfur, so he can't get his Dragon Tower up.
If you need spells, you need a variety of them.

The blood crystal thing kinda turned me off from homm6.

haven't tried homm7, seemed okay, but I never looked at it once it was done.

>>152880570
I remember trying Eador and getting humiliatingly rekt.

>>152880354
Looks fun.

>>152880493
I remember 5th being fucking violent, with all ranged indies being rape machine taking 1/3 of your small troops, and the AI going straight for you once it detects you're weakened enough.

>>152880493
>Anastasia
I thought she died in the fifth game?

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Will you guys

>preorder Civ 6?
>buy it on release or wait for the sale?

btw. preorder gives bonus. again.

>>152880461
>Oh but you can domesticate them if you seek out to do it and keep them to later eras?
Well not always
Mammoths spawn from their resource, Mammoths, which are arctic-only and very rare, but they migrate around as Barbarians (animals are barbarians for this game) and you might find some if you live in temperate zones. If you catch them and live in a good place you can build Mammoth Hunter Camps and Mammoth trainers which let you build War Mammoths and all their other versions. Giant Ground Sloths can be trained as a better version of Spearmen that do extra damage, have +2 strength, a special upgrade line or two (Savage Beast, adds a fuckton of strength to attack rounds) and add a bunch of hammers to cities they're in but you have to hope you spawn on a continent with them - every landmass has a set of animals it will spawn and no others so you could possibly be on a landmass that just doesn't have any.

>>152880748
>I thought she died in the fifth game?
The necromancer girl? I forgot haven't played it in a long time. This is the one where she literally just becomes an undead though and it takes place like 1000 years before V so maybe.
VII is...not really a HoMM game? It doesn't feel 'right'?

>>152880749
I refuse to preorder. I don't care about the tiny trinkets they try to slap on to it.

I will pirate it.
If it is good I will probably buy it.
Many consider civ5 vanilla unplayable, but I pirated it and played it for a few weeks and deemed it worthy of my money.

>>152880748

Yeah, if you don't play the campaign on beginner (until you got the game knowledge) and built certain units/heroes first, you get literally destroyed.

>>152880749
I'll wait for all the add-ons and the eventual GOTY edition that includes them. Firaxis games are always bad until they fix it up with the expansions.

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>>152877876
I'm no BDSMfag, but a girl being lightly and tastefully kinbaku'd makes her all the more kissable and caressable for me.

>>152880886
>VII
Woah hey, there are only VI HoMM games.

>>152880937
I thought playing III and IV would be enough, but the ranged units are buffed in V.

>>152881000
WEW

>>152881046
Is VII considered that bad?

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>>152879818
10/10 would ask questions again. you've been very helpful anon

what tools do you guys use to take screenshots of non-steam games? The good old PrtSc only produces black screens

>>152881470
window mode

>>152881207
Wait, there's really a seventh game?

>>152881545
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Might_%26_Magic_Heroes_VII
It was...bad, to say the least.

>>152881470
I've been using Fraps since my GTA:SA days

New to 4x games, should I try age of Wonders 3 or Endless legend?

>>152881627
I didn't knew. I gave out after Uplay robbed me of my copy of VI because I forgot my mail adress.

Like they did with Assassin's Creed : Brotherhood.

>>152881695
>, should I try age of Wonders 3 or Endless legend?

yes

>>152881695
both are good, AoW3 if you want more traditional fantasy and endless legend if you want something a bit more refreshing

>>152881695
EL for fantasy civ5 with cool mechanics.
AoW3 for sweet tactical combat.

So how about Heinlein so far?

>>152881695
Yes.

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>>152879618
>Any HoMM game worth it?
3 modded is always good.
5 isn't terrible.

Age of Wonders 3 is great.

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>>152880354
the game lore is about ever lasting darkness engulfing the world, you begin to play when the sun rises again, eg: the awakening
the game has day/night cycles, lasting 18 turns, with partials in the middle (morning, afternoon...)
when night strikes, monsters get more aggressive, you can see basically shit, and events get dangerous...
since its very bad for traveling, I like to camp out gatherers on needed resources, and let them sit the whole night there, don't forget to bring in some protection,

>>152880570
and what about Eador? yet another game I haven't heard about
also, that's some weird ass hex map

>>152882845
>3
>modded
Huh? There are mods?

>>152880749
> buy it
yeah, go dreaming
1- pirate it
2- check if they haven't screwed up immensely
3- if its good, wait for major dlc
4- then wait for ridiculous 90% promotion
5- then maybe buy it, if its still worth while

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>>152880570
>Eador.
>spend 20h autistically grinding a shard till I maxed out my hero, skills, spells, items, units
>start next shard, progress reset
Rolled uninstall wizard.

>>152882856
How hard is it? I tried Faster Than Light and Darkest Dungeons and never had fun with them because of the whole permadeath shit.

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I just want to live peacefully. Why do they make me conquer them?

>>152881470
greenshot is a pretty good utility for capture,
tons of options

>>152880749
ill preorder, because I only buy 'safe' games that I know will be good, and this is one of them. I never preordered civ 5 or beyond earth for a reason.

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>>152881695
Both good, can't go wrong. Endless series will most likely be going on sale soon.

>>152803513
>Harald Hardråde
>not Harald Hårfagre

PISS

>>152883209
This game looks so ugly.

>>152883286
>females knight don't have chainmail bikini
THANK YOU

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>>152882984
>Huh? There are mods?
Are you for real? There are literally hundreds of mods. Some of them have the quality of a full priced game.

>>152883454
>Some of them have the quality of a full priced game.
pic related I assume?

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>>152881061
>WEW
What did he mean by this?

>>152883550
post more

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>>152883418
But there is chainmail bikini, if you're into that.

>>152883139
its not really that, at least for me still
the thing is its pretty unforgiving, like for example in rimworld
you get attached to your characters, and out of nowhere your favorite one dies or strays off following a seductive vampire
all in that, its pretty funny
all events are fully voiced and the art is simply amazing

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finally got CBT to work property. What am I in for?

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>>152883545
Nah, that's just a for fun.

Wake of Gods, Horn of the Abyss, ERA, those are just 3 of the big ones.

>>152883510
they will probably release 1 or 2 alternate leaders with the 'expansions' as well as a bunch of normal leaders. that is, if gorgo is an alt civ leader. we arent 110% sure yet.

as for if its good, no one knows. it LOOKS good gameplay wise, since its not deleting half the features from the previous game to add them in with dlc (this also means that civ 6 will probably have 1 diplomacy dlc and 2 ones featuring mechanics we dont even know about) it looks good. but the balancing might be shit, the optimization might be shit...theres still a lot of possibilities.

>>152883454
What the hell? I didn't know it had mods!

>>152883617
I'm not. Sexy girls distract me from the action.

>>152883721
>out of nowhere your favorite one dies
Not my kind of game, then.

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>Civ5
>start game with friends
>build wonder
>sometimes switches to loading screen when passing turns
>wonders randomly disappear and if you were building one it stops production
>it's right there in production options showing the remaining turns it would take to build it but it's faded out because i can only build one at a time despite this being the city it was being build it

Is there any way to fix this? It really takes the fun out of the game when your hard earned wonders just disappear, the only way to fight it seems to just never build any wonders at all.

On a related note, Tercio also disappear every time this happens. Production and time is spend, but the Tercio are fucking gone. I've tried building them over and over again just for it to load and suddenly they're all gone.

>>152881000
nice trips

>you will never tenderly love a tied up Dido
>you will never live your life with Dido in her comfy (I assume it is) palace from the leader screen
kill me

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>>152883902
>What the hell? I didn't know it had mods!
Tryhards bitch about balance but the mods are fun.

>>152883724
CBT?
>>152883902
try out before you dismiss it

>>152884089
>CBT?

community balance patch, a nice overhaul