/domg/ Dominions 4 General

>>152048834

Previous Pantokrator

Community Clash

/v/anheim team is Cirno and two noobs, /domg/ team is Sy, Sum1, and coolstory

2nd for reminder that Ermor is an unfun element and should never be allowed into games.

3rd for aboleth traps

>>152317681
>Sauro is literally the worse nation in EA.
>Even UW is better.
You have the best research in the game, every research mage can become a combat mage, and your troops are decent too.

Sauro may not be a strong nation, but I can definitely think of nations in EA which are worse.

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>>152320043
>using a thumbnail for the OP pic

>>152321869
Cirno Detected

>>152317632

>>152322102
>cirno thinks sauro is strong
Have you ever met him?

>>152320043
Who was Forester Bob?

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Reminder for the new thread that I wanted to talk to Agartha, and will try to make sure to be around.

Also, some new graphs by popular request. Abysia has managed to overtake Sauro in gem income, as they apparently found some new magic sites in Lankaland. Including Lanka.

>>152325845
I think your graph is broken.

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>>152325845
MS Paint pls no Bully.

>>152325976
This graph appears to be missing squids. Please fix tia

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>>152325976
Now that the issue with the graphs is fixed after some technical difficulties (that dumb bitch Basalt Queen I just hired fucking everything up. Really wanted a king, but they all just haaaaaaad to refuse to work for me) here's research.

Sauro's spiked again, presumably having finished up with most of Helheim. Everyone else continues to lag behind.

>when you halfass your turn after dragging it out for 4 days

Admitedly i have an excuse of being sick for 3.5 days of it and still being a bit out of it.
Sorry anyway folks, i know not all of you are enjoying it.
I mostly do but not on constant basis

>>152326120
This graph appears to be missing squids. Please fix tia

>>152326030
Okay, see the Research graph. Notice where Sauro is in relation to the top of the graph. Assuming Sauro is #1 in research (which is very likely, no matter how big squids are, cause Sauro) that should be about the locality of the top nation in graph location - that 4th graying bar.
Put squids there for gem income. It isn't hard to figure out a top nation's spot on the graphs, cause #1 always goes into the 4th gray bar slot, right at the bottom. This is also how we can be certain Sauro is winning research, even vs the squids (or, at best, squids are tying).

>>152325976
Why are the UW graphs hidden? I wonder, is it so we don't know if they go to war?

>>152326384
This is more an issue. Because Sauro is actually occupying the top spot currently, its fucking impossible to tell where the squids are other than "not more than Sauro".

>>152326406
So if that's always how it scales, then squids have almost double the gem income of the second place and an indeterminate amount of research?

>>152326406
So what you're saying is squids have 2x the gem income of the next highest person?

That's terrifying.

>>152326578
>>152326620
Probably.

Coalition when?

Is there any site that lists base costs for autocalced pretender gods? Mod inspector just gives the 10k figure that indicates autocalc.

>>152326578
Abysia - Top of 13th bar
Squids - Top of 20th bar (or bottom of 21st, close enough)

Cap sites at the current scaling seem to be just under a bar and a half roughly. Give or take, pita to eyeball. Which means a bar and a half = 7 gems, or each bar = 4.666 gems.
Or: R'lyeh gem income - roughly 93 gems
Abysia gem income - roughly 60 gems
Sauro gem income - roughly 51 gems

How close am I senpais?

>>152326957
Note that I'm pretty sure blood slaves from sites count as 'gems' so be sure to count those with your totals too.

>>152326676
>Coalition when?
Should have started one when he posted graphs with his own info cut off.

Literally every time that's happened the player in question has been leading by far.

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>>152326957
My gem income is actually only at a little over 30 atm. Also, here is Research from a couple days ago, now that we know about the static placement of #1.

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If a coalition vs EA squids starts, I'm going to call myself the winner of the meme war.

Daily reminder that All Yesterdays Squids were just as big and powerful as I am now, but still couldn't stop Agartha (a nation that can win games) from winning. Also, voice of tiamat helps so much with the gems.
And yeah, yeah, summod. But I respect the world enough to assume that they're not spooked about Polypal spawn on land.

That said, if you're not next to one of the great land threats, and go against me, I won't hold it against you much. But please don't let real nations snowball chasing after R'lyeh.

Especially when you hide behind the name of anon yourself. Full Research graph posted, because apparently sherlock fucking holmes happened to be around.

>>152327661
Ah, guess I was way fucking off then. If you're at a little over 30, that would put squids at a little under 60 most likely instead of 90ish.

>>152328003
Ayup, assuming "a little over 30" means 32, that would put R'lyeh at roughly 58 gems per turn.

>>152327878
>But I respect the world enough to assume that they're not spooked about Polypal spawn on land.
Less that, more mass aboleths on land due to ease of access to air breathing items. A shitload of big astral mages is actually reasonably scary.

>>152328132
Can't those just get magic dueled? I mean, if it's vs Sauro and what not.

>>152328106
not that low, 35 gems yo, mostly astral and death. I am trading for Fire gems btw, if anyone wants to sell.

>>152327878
So what I'm gathering is Agartha, Ulm, Pan, Ur, and anyone else around the area should shank Sauro really fucking fast.
While Pelagia/Oceania tag team R'lyeh with the help of the English elves and maybe Mictlan, who somehow beat the bat?

>>152328367
Magic duel is good against mages that have astral as a subpath.

>>152328478
If you have 35 (on the number) that would put R'lyeh at 63 (likely on the number, maybe with up to a variance of 2-3)

>>152328531
> >>152327878 (You)

How do I get the mod inspector to show base protection instead of aggregate protection?

>>152329149
mouse over it.

I've realized what this game lacks. Sling spells.
I cant catapult a weapon of doom towards the enemy even if i have every magic path avaialbe.

It would be a potent magic but limiting magic paths with some rare crosspaths would be good enough.

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Got updated graphs, Chimori hasn't taken a dent. I see several players that haven't committed their all, and that's not how you're supposed to play. There isn't time for reaching key research targets or combining your armies into a deathblob, just go with everything you've got NOW and worry about the rest later, because at this point Chimori's victory is most likely delayed their ability to claim thrones rather than to capture the provinces they're in and players currently fighting them are faltering so instead of 3vs1, you'll soon fight yourself with 1vs1 against 20 provinces larger Chimori.

>>152327878
>squids tops graphs
>diplomancing heavily
Just ignore him guys, I'm sure everything will turn out fine.

>>152333230
>>152332642

>>152333487
Those...aren't even from the game I was talking about?

>>152333613
You're Ashia, right?

>>152334109
Nope.

I'm in neither Der gotterdammrung nor scrubgen X.

>>152334276
Oh, sorry. Wrong post.

>>152332642
You're Ashia, right?

>>152334332
Yes

>>152334751
>Ashia
I just accidentally ate your spy this turn.

Is that why I'm not on there?

>>152334931
Probably

>>152334986
In comparison to the other guys, where did I sit?

I've been too busy losing provinces to indies to really get a good idea of what's going on.

>>152334751
Did you seeking arrow snipe the bats that were in your territory?

>>152335073
There's no hidden nations in those graphs, that's all the spy info I've got.

>>152335131
I tried to, but the arrow didn't find any targets, looks like it doesn't interact well with hidden units.

>>152335538
Huh. I feel bad for recommending it then.

live.

>>152325845
I'm here now, and will be for a few hours.

>>152332642
Bats are going to win, retards are backstabbing people fighting bats like idiots.

>>152339283
Eil was irrelevant anyways. Goblins can do more to fight bats with Eil's land.

LIVE.

Abysia 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Fomoria 2h file received
Hinnom 2h file received
Helheim 2h file received
Lanka 2h file received
Niefelheim 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Therodos 2h file received
>Yomi Waiting for 2h file

Does Chaos Power(1) scale past 3? As in, say I have 3 turmoil and 75 unrest, does that cap out at +3 for my troops or will that result in +6? If it does not cap out, when does it cap out? Can it just keep going? If I recall correctly, unrest does not cap out at 100.

>>152341574
Why doesn't Diminions have a revival spell? You won't lost all your grim just by having a one little positive spell.

>>152317681
glad I picked sauro for my first two pbems ever

>>152341761
it has life after death! and that death bolt that revives enemies as soulless!

>>152341735
It caps at 3 so that extra unrest isn't helping your units' stats. When it comes to the rebate, I'm not fully sure if that can exceed 3. You might want to experiment with that.

>>152341761
You can revive heroes from the hall of fame

as mummies

There are lots of other positive spells, though, like Gift of Health and Celestial Rainbow.

>>152342017
It's not a fucking positive for the slightest.

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>>152341761
It does.

>>152342105
>not wanting to serve your country as a magic wielding automaton after your death

What are you, some kind of hippy?

>>152341735
>>152342025
If it scaled, you could just jack up unrest to 200+ and enjoy your physically invincible troops.

What happens if you empower an Iron angel 11 times?

>>152344158
Illuminati won't ever try to hunt you down. Since they are not interested in imbeciles.

>>152344158
Why would you ever try it?

>>152344158

You will become meme, destroyer of games

>>152344526
Seems like a plus

>>152344587
In case you have a spare 300 gems for some reason?

>>152344649
perfect

>>152344649
He would need to empower it 20 times per patch to became ultimate memester tho

>>152344940

At that point its cheaper to get to S6 and wish for magic power.

>>152344940
>>152344973
>that anon talking about making a scaleable spells mod does it
>first game with it some memelord empowers his pretender to insane levels and spends a few hundred pearls wishing for magic power
>rapes everything

>>152344973
This way isn't meme enough

>>152345157
>that anon talking about making a scaleable spells mod

That's me, actively working on it, but Illwinter isn't making it easy. For example if I wanted a fireball to gain +1AoE per path level, it would go 2->3->4... which is a huge boost to it even at the standard level 2.
Basically the way it works is you get increment per level, and it counts the required levels. So for a flare a mage with F3 gets increment*3, instead of doing the more logical where the required path is the starting point and a F3 mage would get increment*0, a F4 increment*1, etc.

The idea was to make spells scale but it looks like I'll have to make higher path level variants (e.g. greater fireball with path req F5) that then scale. Even then however this example would mean the fireball would have a minimum AoE of 5. Shit's hard enough to balance already without the commands being arse.

>Hi. On trying to host Ginnungagap just now, Dominions crashed. This is not a LlamaServer issue, but rather Dominions itself crashed with a "Nagot gick fel" type error. The specific error was:

>Något gick fel!
>Unknown req_512 ()


>These errors are normally caused by a (generally inexplicable) problem with one of the players' 2h files. Therefore the LlamaServer moved all your 2h files away before hosting again. This is why you will receive a new turn file in which you've staled.

>There are two options from here. Either you can treat the stale turn as a random event and carry on with the game, or you can roll back the turn and try to host again. If you try the latter your game admin will have to do the rollback via the admin options on the LlamaServer website, and you will all have to do your turns again. Note that in this case it is _really important_ that you actually do redo your turn, rather than just sending in the same one again (which people sometimes seem to do because they don't believe me). If you just send in the same file, hosting will simply fail again.

>I hope you manage to get the game back on course, whichever option you go for.

What

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>>152346716
W-what

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>>152346716
>>152346805
>it's gone from the games list on Llama

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>Något gick fel!
>Något gick fel!
>Något gick fel!
>Något gick fel!
>Något gick fel!

Reveng eof Latus Ended?

GUESS WHAT TIME IT IS

LATUS 3, BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE RAGHA

>>152347000
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Latus_3_Big_Trouble_In_Little_Ragha

>>152347000
checked

>>152347072
>not even WH

Temple in cap ring, burds

>>152346716
Last time this happened it was because a mod hadn't uploaded to Llamaserver properly. Email Llama and see if he can fix it.

>>152347370
Mandatory mods added

Found me some Vanhere, time to find me an erf snek to slay

>>152347550
Maybe if your dominion wasn't cancer we wouldn't have to build temples to protect against it?

>>152347072
Uh anon, 2 players?

>>152347072
>>152347591
Uh yeah just noticed >>152347986 too, if that isn't an error remove me (R'lyeh), might join later (if it hasn't filled up) but would pick a different nation and wildly different pretender design.

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>>152347973
Looks fine to me, 3 luck and 3 turmoil what more would you want?

>>152348167
Oh, so you made an already cancerous dominion more cancerous by adding death. Well memed.

Turn time extended to 30 hours because its like turn 37 and we're well into the mid game now.

>>152348263
I thought D3 was standard?

>>152347072
I would quite like to join as Agartha once the players problem is straightened out.

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>"T-those shard guards were just eating my income! I t-totally wanted you to kill 40 of them!"
>recruiting more shard guards
>"I-i'm totally gonna attack you with a lot of sacreds! Y-you're gonna be sorry!"
>4 turns in and not even a single raid
Why are you such a cuckold, Agartha?

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I love the smell of fresh turns in the morning.

Best blood nation to disregard my national troops and just go full SUMMONED DEMONS?

>>152349447
Lanka?

>>152349447
Bogarus

>>152349236
>4 turns in and not even a single raid
Aw, that's sad.

I wanted to see his excuses when he lost again with his enc 0 sacreds.

>>152349475
Lanka's recruitable sacreds are pretty good, why would you disregard them?

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Any pro player care to explain what it means?

Ethereal being has 25% chance to be hit with normal damage. What does it make it with this trait, 10% or something?

>>152349638
It means it's mundane, non-magical, 'normal' damage. Ethereality has 75% chance to negate it.

>>152349447
Xibalba, probably.

Your national troops are still useful for raiding, but in any serious fight you don't need much more than ozelotl and mages.

Easiest way to set up a blood economy? (both nation/units/pretender wise and strategy wise)

>>152350884
the easiest way is to bloodhunt.

>>152350884
Short answer: be a blood nation like Mictlan, Xib, Lanka, whatever else, recruit a ton of your cheap B1 mages, craft dowsing rods, summon/recruit some patrollers, get them all to ~6000+ provinces, and start reaping.

Pretender doesn't matter if you're playing a pure blood nation, as you'll have plenty of bloodhunters and depends on whether you want a bless/boosters/sitesearching/SC. Sometimes you want to get a specific endgame with your pretender like storm demons.

Long answer: it depends.

>>152351085
Thanks man, i appreciate your help. Xibalba looks cool (batpeople and they are in every age), would they be fine? I see bats can't patrol well and their highest tier commander causes a fuckton of unrest. Also, i was thinking of an Imprisoned Pretender D8O3G3 B4A2 (Storm demons and nice scales), can it do?


Also, do i bloodhunt only in 6000+ provinces? Once it goes below that, do i keep raping or do i wait for the region to get populated again? Do i build forts on the most populated provinces? Any tips on mantaining and defending my blood network?

>>152351468
Anything above 5000 works. Below that you get a penalty to bloodhunting, but too far above it means it's a high-income province which means bloodhunting will cost you more gold than it does in other provinces. Between 5000 and 8000 is ideal.

As for Xibalba, they're one of the most OP nations in the game (especially EA), so you should be fine.

>>152351468
Patrol with indie commanders.

>>152351468
Xib wants a hefty dual bless for their sacred summons and freespawn. Storm Demons are redundant due to having flying everything, and having arguably better sacred demon summons.

>>152351468
>I see bats can't patrol well
That's actually not right, they're very good at patrolling. Even with the -1 penalty they patrol about as well as a standard human, and cost much less.

>their highest tier commander causes a fuckton of unrest
You want to bloodhunt with cheap B1 mages, not Onaqui.

>Also, do i bloodhunt only in 6000+ provinces?
5000+ is the number. You can bloodhunt in lower than that too, but I'd avoid lower than 3500-4000 unless you're desperate.

>Once it goes below that, do i keep raping or do i wait for the region to get populated again?
Population increases very slowly even with full growth scales, so you just switch to another province once you've bloodhunted one down past 5000.

>Do i build forts on the most populated provinces?
That's often a good idea, but not because of bloodhunting. Forts help protect your provinces, and you want your highest income provinces defended well. You generally don't want to bloodhunt your highest population provinces.

I'd call you a backstabbing kike, Ys, but it was kinda blatant what you were going to do by now.

>>152352773
>undead trusting elves

I can't breath

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Were indies upgraded at some point recently when I wasn't playing? Because I've been testing expansions with stuff I used to play as... and there's cloud mages and shit EVERYWHERE.

It feels like this was done to slow down expansion or something because what the fuck 2 Orb Lightning casters are in every other province.

I could just be unlucky as fuck too I guess

>>152353898
I didn't trust him though, knew he was going to attack, just that it makes 3 (maybe 4, seeing suspicious movements along a certain border) so pre-emptively attacking Ys would have been a bit overambitious.

>>152346716

Maybe it had something to do with that the admin had renamed the enhanced magic file to another name?

Anyway looks like admin fuckup to me.

>>152354230
Yeah, that's what I thought.

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>>152346716
REEEEEEEEEEEEE FIX THIS NOW I NEED MY TURN

>>152354230
>admin had renamed the enhanced magic file to another name?

What why?

>>152354230
>>152347560
>>152354326
>>152354637
Well it's not with the Llama version of Magic Enhanced that is uploaded, I uploaded that one and using it for MemeFastStaleHard and that's working just fine.

>>152354637

When I made my turn, it said that I lacked the enhanced magic mod, which the game thought should have been called something like magic_enhanced1.1proper.dm and ours were all called magic_enhanced1.1.dm

Talked to some other players in chat and we all just renamed our file to that.

>>152349236
Get in chat, Mrs. Skeltal.

>>152354872

Like I said in >>152354910 your version of magic_enhanced had a "proper" sufix on it. Are you sure you didn't use a self-modded version that was incorrect to the Llamaserver version?

I'm putting my gems on that is the problem.

>>152355128
Oh right I remember that issue now, but the thing is Llama must have done that itself when it saw two identical .dm uploaded to it, because I never renamed my .dm. In fact I found out about the "proper" issue because it wouldn't accept the .dm I already had, which was the very same one I uploaded, hence I had to add the suffix as well. It might otherwise have been that it wouldn't accept a duplicate .dm so I had to rename it but while possible I have no recollection of that. In any case I'm a 100% sure the actual .dm isn't modded, though the filename alone seems to be enough to trigger Dom4 so it might be enough to cause issues.

In any case I should probably email Llama and ask him to remove that if it's causing issues.

>>152354872
>>152354910
>>152355128
Unlikely to be the problem, when you try to load a turn with that it will tell you about the .dm name issue and not let you do anything. So if you submitted your turn, you renamed the .dm, and it seems to work in another game according to you, hence that mod is probably not at fault.

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>uploading gamebreaking mods to Llama

DEVILISH

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I have too much time on my hands

Do i spam Storm Demons or Frost Fiends? Also, which nation would benefit the most from these summons?

>>152358687
It depends. Do you have the ability to cast storm in battle? Are you fighting in a heat or cold dominion?

>>152352773
>>152354181

Hey buddy, if it makes you feel any better that message I sent was genuine (and not a pre-emptive ruse), I just had a change of heart since then.

>>152358784
I could feasibly do both (cold 3 btw), but i'm new to the whole blood magic stuff, so i don't know wich demon is best mass-summoned, can ice-fiends go underwater? If so, i'd pick them to invade an underwater asshole friend of mine.

>>152358687
Frost Fiends throw AoE cold. Use them in cold dominion, supported by cold-resistant melee troops.
Storm Demons are ethereal and throw AN lightning. They like having Storm support, obviously. Forge a Staff of Storms or have an A3+ mage with them.

>>152358687
Also, Frost Fiend default sprite is fucking disgusting. If you really don't know what to choose, pick Storm Demons, since they don't look like shit.

>>152358687
Storm Demons are generally better - ethereal to help mitigate their shit protection, lightning attacks ignore armor, and strong anywhere (especially with a storm up)

Frost fiends have cold auras, and AoE attacks.

Both are strong, though.

Shilling this PBEM because i'm in it and want it to actually start.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=GulagOfFondMemories

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Can Abysia actually win or am i handicapping myself?
I'd like to play as an Archdevil who invades the world with masses of summoned demons, and drowns the world in blood and flame. However, i read it's kind of a one-trick pony, and that it kinda sucks.
Can i git gud with them and show the world demons rule? Or is there another nation based on blood summon spams which does everything better than Abysia?

>>152346716
How about we just restart with the file named properly. My start was shit anyway.

>>152360486
Oh wait nevermind got my games mixed up, I'm half asleep. I'm still fine with just restarting even though I'm on my favorite part of the map

>>152360469
It depends.
EA Abysia has an absurdly good early game and THE single best expansion in the EA. They have a decent midgame and basically no late game unless you give them one through your pretender. Amazing in small games, but get worse the larger the map is.
MA Abysia has worse early game and expansion than EA, but a better midgame. Still no real lategame.
LA Abysia has the worst earlygame and expansion of the three ages, to the point of just being decent. However, they have a strong midgame and you don't have to work as hard to get them a lategame.

>>152360930
What would a good late-game pretender be then? I I'll go Imprisoned no doubt, but i was thinking on focusing on scales, but if Abysia lacks late-game then i guess i need more magic paths, which spells would make Abysia at least average in the late-game? (and which points in magic do you reccommend for such a pretender).

>>152361268
D5B4, maybe? On a chassis with full slots, of course. Lich Queen looks like the best possibility.

Primary purpose is to let you leverage your cap-only blood to break you into a proper blood economy via vampire lords. It also gives you access to tarts if you ever reach that point.

Fair warning, I've never tried this in a game.

>>152351468
it should take a tons of turn for a 5500 province to go under 5000 if you do it right.

for long term sustainable and cheap blood hunting you go for 2 mages with B1 or B2 + sanguine dowsin rod and one commander( or any cheap commander unit) patrolling with 35 summoned wolves. the exact number of wolves depends on your scales and exact blood hunt power and probably game settings too, but remember that unrest won't go to exactly 0 each turn due to the high variance RNG of it and that's ok as long as it hits 0 once every few turns and is quite often under 10.

>>152363517
Not only are you spreading unrest over tons of provinces (20 points of unrest is -30% income, which is a lot), you're not even preserving the population by letting the unrest decrease naturally.

Patrolling away your population isn't sustainable, nor is 30% of province income cheap.

>>152365779
None of that matters when you get literally hundreds of slaves per turn to buy armies of zero-upkeep demons with.

>>152365779
it's almost sustainable. if you have high free unrest decrease (order, dominion) you will eat population very slowly ( 100 pop every 5 turns or so).

what else do you suggest? turbohunting a big pop province?

>>152347000
>>152347072

Please do >>152348061 if it is intended to be a 1v1, else you just force me to go AI when it starts.

So is the admin contacting Llama or should we just make another game with the same settings?

I can't site search efficiently for shit, i'm so shit i'm tempted to create a rainbow pretender and use him to get all of the gems, stop me before i commit this madness.

>>152370394
What nation are you playing?

>>152370394
don't do it. it takes 2 turns to sitesearch one province which means that if you take it dormant you would still be sitesearching your "starting" 12 provinces when other imprisoned gods break out.It might be worth it for certain nations if you also get some crafting paths or use the god to cast a global.
can't you just use your mages + some summoned mages? what nation are you?

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=GulagOfFondMemories

LA game. Current nations are Ulm, Arcosephale and Lemuria (a.k.a. Unexpected Nation). 3 spaces left.

>>152372069
I'd like to play but I've only been in four multiplayer games thus far. Am I too noob for this?

>>152373316
The only way to learn is to play, honestly. Maybe ask thread, or in the steam group, for advice for a race/pretender/strategy to aim for if you don't want to strike out on your own, but I wouldn't worry too much either way.

I see a bug on the summod change to wound fend amulet. It's supposed to go from E1S1 in cost to S1 but in game I see S1S1 and it does cost 10 astral gems instead of 5.

As a gift from a friend of mine, here's a PBEM manager for llamaserver. Just slightly reduces the work involved.

https://github.com/Feldherren/dom4-python-llamaserver-helper

Requires python to run but says that there anyway.

>>152373693
it might be intentional but uncorrectly advertised, would have to hear sum1won for that.

>>152347684
>Vanheres
>Killing snek

Ayyy lsneko

>>152372069
Just joined as Midgard.

>>152373949
>Requires snake pretender to work

??????

Just woke up to this fuckin nonsense. The continuing with a stale option doesn't seem viable anyway because the game is gone from the llama server list.
Remaking with same settings and redownloading mods from llama to make sure it's all in order this time. Maybe it had something to do with me using the magic enhanced file we're using for MemeFastStaleHard.

>>152376020
Link? Use the MagicEnhanced1.1.dm file this time? I had to arbitrarily rename my mod file. Not sure if that's intentional. Maybe didn't help.

>revised my turn 3 times throughout the day
>most of it was diplomacy

This shit wasn't advertised, no one told me I'd have to put up with so much lying,double crossing and politics. I just wanted to kill elves and cast fun globals.

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>>152375979
I will admit it took me a second to get that.

>>152376020
there has been an issue with some versions of magicenhanced.
some contain a fix but have not been renamed, some has been renamed but don't contain a fix.

receiving turns with different version of magicenhanced but the same name causes crashes. you are all better not renaming anything but just redowloading the same 1.1 version off the llamaserver link

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>>152376342
Here ya go, straight from the mod description on llama.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-jNQgOwI-Q_cC1yakFQU3hnZ1E/view?pref=2&pli=1

If I want to catch an indie mage on the map, and he's got a bunch of guys with him, do I need a bunch of casters to spam the spell I want and hope or do I have to make several attacks to thin out the chaff and increase my chances ?

>>152377723
Preferably both
If it isn't a titan that you're trying to charm it's pretty hard to get rid of everything else though

>>152372069
>LA
>Lemuria

Always.

Hey you guys want to have fun? Sorry, Ghosts being afk for 90 turns again. Oh they are casting globals! Fun!

>>152378007
A bloo bloo bloo poor little meatbag

>>152377723
just remember that they will flee if they lose too match army.

>>152377985
>>152378728
Thanks, I might try, never did that before so I'm not sure about the result.

So I'm assuming the crossover of players from MemeFastStaleHard (myself included) caused the crash because of the mod file renaming we had to do for that game.
What I assume will make both games work fine is only using the renamed version when doing my turns for MemeFastStaleHard, and switching back to the unaltered version for GinnungagapReturns and everything else.
I'm sure there are people here who know more about mods and errors so let me know if this sounds dumb or you have a better solution.
Anyway, here is our remake so resend those pretenders and sorry for the inconvenience.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=GinnungagapReturns

Hey, R'lyeh, I'm deleting your pretender. Just look at the map, there's no water there. Like, at all.

>>152381065
I didn't even look at the map.
Sorry I'm dumb.

>>152360930
>They have a decent midgame and basically no late game unless you give them one through your pretender
You need a pretender to actually forge the contracts, but the nation itself is still good at supporting the strategy. And lite blood is more blood than most nations in EA.

>>152381731
You have to empower once in fire and multiple times in blood to get soul contract spam online.
The F empower hurts, but F gems aren't worth much.

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Hello Grey

Hello Burgundy

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Pssst scrubs, want some fresh Der Gott graphs ?
Frost Giants aren't quite done.

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>>152382102

Game: MemeOfTheAges
Turn number 14
Next turn due: 09:05 GMT on Sunday August 21st

Agartha 2h file received
>Arcoscephale Waiting for 2h file
Asphodel 2h file received
Bandar Log 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received

>>152382102
Frost giants decided to get my UW province somehow. They're gonna be done soon though.

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>>152382286

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>They take double the gold in losses
>Lose a hero and 15 slaves of summons
>And all their units cost more resources

>The City of Eillenon

>>152383189
>Meanwhile at Chimori

>>152383189
Those guards are 12 attacks per square, right? Why even bother with the sacreds when you've got them?

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>>152382650

>>152383469
They have no hp or prot and will be useless the second someone gets evo, would have lost a lot more to crossbows that fight at least massing sacreds the N bless hp bonus gives them a bit of staying power.

>>152382320
Damn that game is going fast. I think we are at like 1.5 turns per 24 hours right now.

Also,
Where are all the fucking EA games? I've been waiting to join one for a few weeks now, but so far i've seen like 2 MA, 2 LA and one Cataclysm in whatever age.
Not like 2 weeks is a long time, but i am surprised about EA being less popular than the other ages.

>>152383731
>That huge army size

This is just what I get for fighting 3 nations at once, even if one of them is stupid Niefel AI.

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>Purposefully delaying my turns to the final hour in which I can submit them to delay the game and make people lose interest for easy gains

>>152384503
Make one.

Serious question: Why wouldn't you trust an elf?

>>152384503
Did you miss Ginnungagap?

>>152385623
It's a memegame.

>>152385623
Apparently i did. Judging by this thread, it involved some mod fuckery so i will just believe i dodged a bullet on that one.

>>152385578
Dumb elfposter.

>>152385692
Most games are meme games here.

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>>152385886

>>152383189
Very impressive, backstabbing a nation that's already been killed by bats.

>>152385692
What is a memegame?

>>152388034

>What is a memegame?

A game that mainly consists of memes and meme accessories.

>>152388034

A game in which everyone goes "Lol but it's just a memegame I don't care lol" when they lose by making stupid scrub mistakes.

>>152388221
So, every game?

>>152388034
Aside from the other wonderful and accurate definitions already given, the one I most often see is a game whose base settings diverge greatly from standard settings.

>>152388497

Just about all of them, yes.

>>152373693
No I fucked up. Fixes will have to wait until I finish unpacking my furniture, since I want to sleep in a bed this week.

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>>152385140
D E L E T E T H I S !

what's the command to check the orders for a province your separate armies will arrive in?

>>152390739
'y'

Speaking of astonishingly useful hotkeys, 'A' will select all units in one line in the planning screen and 'P' will return all selected units to the garrison. The only unfortunate thing about this combo is that the keys are about as far apart as possible. Still, very handy as Ermor when I'm constantly rearranging the skeleton hordes I'm shuffling around.

Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
Berytos 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Fomoria 2h file received
>Hinnom Waiting for 2h file
Helheim 2h file received
Machaka 2h file received
Marverni 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Oceania 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
Pelagia 2h file received
R'lyeh 2h file received
Sauromatia 2h file received
Tir na n'Og 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Ur 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received
Yomi 2h file received

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Latus_3_Big_Trouble_In_Little_Ragha

now with deleted Ryleh and unlimited players

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>>152391121
You're not pressed by time though, so it's just convenient.

>>152391694
W-well I had asked to delete me only if it was going to be a 1v1, which it seems it isn't, but I just resent my pretender so it's no problem.

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WHICH PRETENDER'S DICK SMELLS THE BEST?

How meme is D3 LA R'lyeh from 1 to 10?

>>152392585
Literally the only way to play R'lyeh/10.

>tfw SP is so shit that I need to purchase this with my meager monies to have fun and play with other nerds

>>152391919
Sure, but I prefer my turns taking less that 2 hours just from fiddly troop management.

WHY ISNT PBEM MANAGER WORKING
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

What is the best summon spell to spam and make armies only made of that summon?
Storm Demons? BOARS?

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>Go to f-list
>See this

Pan stay away from my f-list.

>>152379902

Resubmit your pretenders you fucking slowpokes

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>152394410
ngl. I thought that if anyone from domg was on f-list, that it'd be Pan.

>>152394994
Does this mean I should put a dominions reference in my otherwise completely unrelated f-list entry?

What are some good dominions-themed fetishes?

>>152394410
>It's a human

Disgusting. I don't play humans, and I don't play with humans. Literally normie-tier faggotry.

t. Pan

>>152395114
Aboleth traps

>>152392927
SP is fun and wonderous for the first couple hours

Regardless this is the kind of game you should be supporting anyway.

>>152395114
Goblins on birds

>>152394262
Basically any Blood summon you go full production mode on

>>152395924
I know but
>no monies

>>152391694
Are the start positions pre-determined on this map for each nation?
My past experiences make me not want to start in the same spot i did last time.

>>152396489
NEET

So does Lanka's blood hunting improve with turmoil or unrest, or both? If the latter, does it cap out at 3 (like chaos power, 15 unrest each so caps out at 45)?

>>152396653
I'm not even in that game but holy shit, why didn't anyone kill R'lyeh yet?

>>152396653
You have gem income on there twice, and are missing Dominion and Research graphs.

>>152396810
Bro, Domg couldn't even gangbang fucking Xibalba in Oeridia when the bats were that ahead, you think they have the mental capacity to gangbang anything or anyone?

>>152396810
>>152397623
You have an example of that in Scrubgen right now.

>>152397623
What's the point of playing then? Just watching squids attacking all their neighbours one by one and inevitably winning the game while all other players do nothing?

Is this how /domg/ games are played?

>>152398029
>why would I attack the guy who's winning
>I might lose!
>I'll just vulture off everybody else and hope I can somehow win from second place

/domg/ is a community of people who would always take the longest sentence in the prisoner's dilemma. It's a mentality of "fuck you I got mine" without actually getting mine.

Which nation do i play if i want the best blood economy ever?

>>152398029
/domg/ does the following to counter big players:
>complain in thread anonymously
>wait and see if anyone attacks them
>if someone does, backstab that someone immediately
>if not, repeat step 1 until someone attacks

>>152398029
If you organize a coalition your best friend will promise to help you but attack you as soon as you attack the coalition target.

>>152397623
Bats got raped all game I think.

>>152396810
People don't really pay attention to EA R'lyeh, and getting UW to plow some aboleths with 4 nations being there already isn't a good plan. But squids got ahead in everything, and other UW guys haven't gone for the removal option apart from Atlantis, who lost.

>>152398029
>squids

At least we'll finally have something new, instead of it always being fucking bats.

>>152398939
Bats were not touched in Oeridia. No one ever attacked them at any point during the entire game, despite bats casting eyes of god himself and gloating how far ahead he was in everything.

>>152398029

The uniqueness is that /domg/ everyone is fucking anonymous. Other communities know which players are reputable, and which are known for breaking agreements, since you tended to get publicly called out for it.

>>152398939
Actually, I was simply helping friend Pelagia from the ruthless aggression of the deep ones. Atlantis made very certain that no one else at all was able to border me in the oceans at the outset of my attack on him.

>>152399149
I was talking Der Gott, where bats got a dragon on their cap turn 2 or 3 and never went really far despite killing it right away.

>>152400159
Oh. That bat. It was played by Modo, which means completely worthless. They could have been ignored all game, and they still wouldn't be an issue.

>>152400987
Still no Domscore graph.

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>>152401459

>>152395114
Bloodsports, virginity, rape, gore, frogs.

>>152394410
Poooost profile.

OH BOY OH BOY I SURE DO LOVE DOMINIONS

>>152405343
Rapist cub or rapebait vixen?

God dammit I fucking love pimping my generals with awesome stuff.

A shame they never use it.
Last time I tried making a thug, he took 50 dmg from a stalker and died like a bitch.

>>152406171
BOW
OF
WAR

>>152406362
ARMOR OF IRON
TOWER SHIELD
FIRE SWORD

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Deus vult.

>>152396776
Turmoil, not improved by unrest (unlike chaospower).

>>152406171
>I fucking love pimping my generals
>lewd

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Does anyone know how to fix or work around a "sprnnumber too high for this file" error?

The problem occurs every time I click on my capital's army set up. It hasn't occurred in similarly mage heavy forts. The only mods running are Enhanced Heroes 5.5NN and Sum 0.61; every mod file was temporarily removed from the directory and the error persisted. This problem first occurred on this turn (Turn ~30) and this was after I had my mages forge approximately ~15 magic items in the previous turn.

If you don't do your turns by the time I wake up you'll be fucking sorry.

i really like conquest of elysium 4 and how the different classes play off each other and the resources

my kokoro wish is that illwinter makes coe5 as a sort of dom4 clone and that it gets a big pbem community

>>152413653
I wish there was people to play some Coe4 games with im surprised this thread doesn't run a side game for it.

>>152414036
the tile movement on large maps makes the game unplayable for pbem at least to me

it needs provinces

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>CoE5
>CoE now has provinces, but within provinces there are various landmarks that you need to individually conquer
>Recruiting and income are reworked to be more steady and less in bulk, so progression feels far more natural and losing your first expansion army doesn't cost you the game
>Amount of units gets scaled up to the point where one unit in CoE4 would be five units in CoE5, to make battles larger and thus less RNG dependent
>Combat stays largely the same, only you can now script mages
>You are guaranteed some class-income specific buildings in your starting province

>>152413653
Coe4 needs to be more interactive and faster paced. The monsters are cool and the idea of using lots of thematic national monsters for the army is something Dom4 could maybe use more of, but it's too simple to be engaging for more than a few games.

>>152415016
>it's still a shit game at its core

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Newbie here.
Currently year 17 against 'mighty' AI's.

How do I kill pic related as EA Ermor? It managed to solo my Drakon pretender

>>152416128
Make a communion with augurs that spam Soul Slay or have a bunch of Augur Elders sling Banefire at it.

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You guys got any advanced/semi-advanced tips for formations, orders, and synergy between them?
I feel like I'm getting nowhere trying to figure out good tactics beyond the basics.

>>152416128
What the guy said, don't forget to put your mages inside a bunch of troops since he flies. You can actually pick any kind of fun spells you can cast and experiment in this case.

>>152417043
Yeah, but it's often very specific for what you're fighting.

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>>152416791
>>152417114
I have no idea how communions work.
Will try to get banefire thing with augers, thanks!

>>152417895
I think there are detailed guides for communions. Take a look at them, it's an important part of the battle magic side of the game, but it requires a bit of practice to get it right.

>>152417895
Here's a tip, any self buffs the master casts also get applied to the slaves. Give him some reinvigoration and your whole communion has less fatigue, or inner sun to turn them all into bombs!

>>152421393
Phoenix Pyre*

Inner Sun is the ritual version, which naturally can't apply to the slaves.

I posted a while back about making a custom nation mod, I basically want to make a mod with a couple dozen nations of my own design for a (hopefully) RP heavy dominions game.

The problem. I can't balance for shit or play for shit t b h. So, domg permitting, I'll post a lore outline of a nation and domg can flash some numbers that aren't too ridiculous.

Or will I just get bullied for being a pleb?

>>152423462
Post the nation mods, people can look at them and offer balance advice.

>>152424059
You don't need a /spoiler tag at the end of the post

>>152423462
We can try, but it's likely you'll get very varied answers and will need to pick the one that sounds most convincing.

I've seen /domg/ unable to agree on whether a single unit is OP or UP, let alone a whole nation.

>>152423462
>>152423462
DESU, you're basically asking domg to do the hard part of nation modding
that and coming up with actually interesting mechanics.

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>Amore dead to bats
>Cynothalu almost dead to bats
>Ashia failing against bats, getting raided
>Eillenon's army wiped out this turn by backstabbing goblin shitheads

I hope everyone still alive in this game realizes that this isn't a meme anymore, and the bats WILL win if we don't all attack them now.

I'm calling for a crusade to holocaust these bats and their scheming goblin underlings.

>>152416128
Wait, the AI is using SCs?

Even though it's terribly geared, that's still pretty neat.

>>152431216
>Expecting domg to gangbang anything ever that's winning
Lol, literally 0 chance. Just end the game, bats win.

>>152423462
Try to hit people up in the steam chat, that's where most of the resident modders usually lurk.

>>152430837
Sprites are the hardest part of modding.

>>152423335
Oh you're right, my mistake.
Hey now that I think about it I'm not sure if buffs on the caster also apply to slaves if they weren't self buffs, do you know if they do?

>>152415310
sum1 posted a mod idea for it to make this so, but I don't think he ever had a chance to implement it. It mostly involved halving the cost and doubling the movement speed of almost every unit in the game.

>>152415016
Where did you read this?

Again, C'tis I'm sorry about killing your guys if you check this.

And Pelagia and Oceania, it might not be any of my business but I can see that you both have decent stacks of soldiers around the base of Africa. What are your current thoughts on R'lyeh? Because at the moment my thoughts are that if we don't stop killing each other to focus on the bigger powers we're all going to die. I really hope you guys don't go to war.

>>152431871
they don't. Only caster-targeting buffs do that

ban was ride XDDD

Is it fine if I put mages right in the middle of an archer stack, or will they get shot by friendly fire?

blitz in chat. 4 lads in, will be starting soon

>>152435104
How do you people never stop doing those things? Don't you sleep? Eat? Do anything other than Dominions?

>>152433186
Would it be possible to talk to you in thread. Ignore the maniacs blitzing, I'm pretty sure they're robots at this point.

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>>152433186
It seems all that air has gone to your head, sailor.

R'lyeh has saved Pelagia and Oceania from Atlantis' mad ambitions and the bottom dweller's abominable Living Pillars. Without their timely entrance, Atlantis would have rolled over our armies and seized everything before marching onto land with their grotesque amphibious horrors. For that, even you land dwellers should be thanking them instead of trying to stab them in the back.

>>152435534
Shure. What do you have to say? Do you think that the interests of the coastal-jews and the squids could align?

>>152435573
Well, all right then. I forgot how early in the game everyone was terrified of Atlantis' Living Pillars.

>>152435272
Typically it's different people playing.

>>152435848
Unless they're subbing in for each other that doesn't answer my question. A blitz goes for hours. Who's got 5 hours straight to play Dominions?

>>152433186
I'm only using troops to patrol away potential assassins, since our company's crafters are not the best fighters.

So far there's no plans to go at war any time soon. I had no squabbles with Atlantis either, they never attacked me, so I'm not so sure about how much I was saved per say, but what happens between the other UW nations stays between them, Oceania shall remain neutral.

>>152435573

So much this, lets be honest, if anyone had to get big under the waves be glad it was me and not Atlantis, whose amphibious troop loadout makes some land nation jealous.
I have no designs on striking UW. Currently I'm trying to save friend Fomoria from the ambitions of the vile Tir na Nog, as shown earlier on the thread. I'm also interested in stopping snowballing blood powers - even ghetto ones like Sauro - from, well, snowballing.

>>152435664
I'm supposing you're coastal jews? I just noticed you had a new visitor in Africa, and wanted your opinion on that.

>>152436876
Yes, I consider myself the nation of coastal jews.

What do you mean by new visitor in Africa? The Bats in the canary islands will die soon and Abysia just seems to like holding those scraps on the edge without doing anything with them.

>>152437007
I was referring to Abysia, whose number 2 on gem income (and keep in mind, blood income isn't reported, so that could be anything, especially with 75% site frequency amping hunts). Abysia is also relevant on other graphs as well.

Bats at this point has less influence on the game than AI Niefelheim.

>>152437403
I haven't seen much of Abysia yet but C'tis tells me that he's doing well for himself thanks to his cave holdings. Definitely something to keep in mind but that's all for now. My most immediate concern is finishing off Machaka with C'tis cooperation and consolidating everything that I've got so far. And by consolidating I mean fort spam. It'll take longer than it should because I need to tear down Machaka's shit palisades and replace them with real fortifications.

>>152437570
Hey man, palisades are pretty legit when you fill them all with squid kids.

So is anyone planning on burning the eyes of the fag in DG?

>>152439547
I have 3 fire gems atm, so uh . . .

no.

>>152439547
I have a lot of fire gems but I'm only sitting on F3 right now. Arco doesn't really seem like an immediate threat to me. If anybody else is interested I might consider joining an Oedipus plot. I'd at least be willing to invest some fire gems.

who is bordering sauro? it's important.

>>152440221
At the moment: Ulm, Agartha, Ur, Pan, Arco (in the water only), AI Niefelheim, Vanheim, and myself.

Caelum is also technically adjacent . . . but only by the most technical of definitions.

>>152440495
thanks, do you also know who is playing as Sauro?

Game: AllMAGamesAreMemeGames
Turn number 25
Next turn due: 11:12 GMT on Sunday August 21st

Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Asphodel 2h file received
Shinuyama 2h file received
Bandar Log 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Machaka 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Vanarus 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
>Ys Waiting for 2h file

>>152440586
Aran, the same guy who played memegeddonII and memegeddonIII bats.

>>152441041
Aran Ryan or Samus Aran?

Hey Arco - is the price I offered for those water provinces good? I'd like to take the first one this turn.

>tfw had to do my turn in a rush and I'm not hopeful for the result

Oh, Agartha, if you happen to be on soon, I'm actually around this time. Managed to not fall asleep.

Are thugs viable to take out independents, or should I just pimp assassins as they're the only one with a chance to be useful in combat?

>>152445707
for 90% of the nations, for 90% of the builds thugs come way too late to take out indipendents. at turn 15 you are supposed to be left with only thrones to take.

depending on what is in the throne a weird thug might be viable.
for example a shock resistent thug might be able to kill most spring hawks into a T3 throne, even quite early.it's risky depending on the mages the throne hosts.
for them to take completely a throne you are probably talking quite late.
for nations with super heavy bless and encumbrance 0 commanders like ermor it might be possible to be able to thug out one province early on.
if you randomly find a frost brand with an elf-pony nation and have a decent bless you might take maybe one province with a thug, just when expansion is ending.

i always use assassins with a D1 skelespam trinket as Ctis. you should do it too, but unfortunately it takes a LOT of commanders turns to pull it off and by the time expansion is over you'll have captured maybe just 2 provinces this way. i do it for super hard provinces like all heavy cav and against SOME mages.

last time i tried to use assasins against a throne i was able to kill all but one good D2 mage and basically it was all fucking useless since the troops don't route if there is even just one commander.

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Sorry,Shinu, dude. I forgot that defensive battles invert the formation. But it's the thought that matters, right?

>>152446387
Urgh.
So pimping generals really is useless, huh.
I'll just focus on giving armour to my prophets and my pretender and keep the gems for alchemy and empowering.

>>152446589
>alchemy and empowering.
Thats not how you spell "Rituals and Combat Spells"

>>152446589
>So pimping generals really is useless, huh
there is an helmet that gives inspirational 2. that' useful.
armor or MR amulet makes commanders resilient to certain battlefield wide spells but sometimes it's better to just have multiple commanders in case one dies.

>>152446779
I don't like rituals and I never use wizards in battles.
I'd rather empower my mound kings, they don't age.

>>152446805
There's a helm with inspiration 2, a one-handed spear with inspiration 1, and a misc horn with inspiration 1. And they all stack.

If you have spare gems, you can use them to crank up the morale of your units quite a bit.

>>152446819
Eh, so i guess you are playing singleplayer then.
In that case, its alright, but dont expect being able to do shit in multiplayer.

>>152446581
kek, how does it look in battle?

>>152446819
>I don't like rituals and I never use wizards in battles.
You're not going to like Dominions very much.

>>152446819
>I don't like rituals and I never use wizards in battles.
So you only play singleplayer?

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>>152447008
Well, uhh, you can kinda read it.

>>152447006
>>152447021
No, I play multi.

I usually don't last long.

>>152447093
the backwards writing makes it better

>>152446589
Pimping generals is honestly how I play Lemuria's early game. 3 Lemur Centurions can clear almost any indy province, and quite a handful of nations have serious issues repelling a dozen or so of them, considering they're 0 enc, fear, ethereal, heavy armored, cold aura commanders.
If you can get a shield on them, they even become crazier. Frost brands are also fantastic.

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And thus Man said, let there be light.

And fire rained down from the sky.

Too bad I still lost

>>152447123
hi okofire. you shoulnd't post on 4chan if you are under 18 you know-