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RNG Edition

Previous Pantokrator: >>151796105

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our work-in-progress wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Our pastebin
http://pastebin.com/uTZnjYwm

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
http://dom4archive.kermodebear.org/www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod.html

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is kill.


>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Maerlande or NuclearMonkee

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
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What nation would Clausewitz play?
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>>152048258
I had some difficulties with logistics and the army you're seeing is stranded for the time being, I'm working on rectifying the situation and committing my full forces on other side of the battlefield (since Chimori extends from one edge of the map to the other, I'm bordered by them on two sides).
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ok, good
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>I accidentally blinded half my sacreds
>t.Marignon
WHY
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>>152049248
I'd say EA xib. I haven't read him in depth, but I think he would appreciate the power projection potential.
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>>152049447
Think positive. They're immune to darkness now.
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>>152049447

This is why you put Antimagic up FIRST, numbnuts.
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Wewuzpantokratorz Mictlan, did you actually go quadbless? You absolute madman
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Ginnungagap

Get in here faggots.
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>>152049447
>>152050586
It was the sun relic that did it. That particular game had been going on for an absurdly long time with no conflict so my scripting got very haphazard.

That particular Herald was meant to be hitting another province by himself.

And while I have some attention, does the Ark do anything at all when deployed in battle or is it just a waste of 30 fire gems and 30 pearls with a cool description? I haven't seen it do anything yet.
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Mari & Man - you should probably talk to each other and decide who's moving where. I'd rather not see your doomstacks clashing.
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Are enraged units supposed to attack themselves?

Are snakes supposed to have arms and legs?
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>>152053981
You ever been so mad you bit yourself in the arm and leg you don't have?
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>>152053981
>EARTH
>SNAKE
>poisoned

kek
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Agartha, please.
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What if we did a meme PBEM game with 2 hour turn time?

Oeridia EA
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>>152054321
I'd join.
t. not Lambert
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>>152053981
are we pokemon now?
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>>152054313
?
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>>152054652
Game: AllMAGamesAreMemeGames
Turn number 21
Next turn due: 22:25 GMT on Wednesday August 17th

Abysia 2h file received
>Agartha Waiting for 2h file
Asphodel 2h file received
Shinuyama 2h file received
Bandar Log 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Machaka 2h file received
Man 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Vanarus 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Ys 2h file received
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>>152054321
How am I supposed to sleep?
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>>152054702
By letting me fireball you in the Titan of Love until you fall asleep dead.
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>>152054321
You'll get about 9 to 15 turns in before people need to sleep for 6-8 hours, assuming you're all on the same timezone and start at the same time.
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>>152055557
Yeah but everyone has to sleep sometime and if the game goes on for several days then everyone will have played an equal amount overall

Plus on a fuckhuge map like Oeridia 4 turns (8 hours) aren't enough to kill someone
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>>152054697
Agartha is played by that faggot Pan. Expect him to go AI soon too, as he said "it was nothing" when Ermor killed 40 of his sacreds.
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>>152055719
>wageslaves BTFO

t. wageslave
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>>152050586

Is there a way to tell what order the mages will cast their spells in a single turn?
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BANGEA PELASE NO REVELLERS, WHAT DO YOU WANT?
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>>152058269
Mages cast their spells in order shown on the army screen.
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>>152058270
:DDDD
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>>152055719
Like I wouldn't bring in a pseudo disciple team to play my one nation
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Wow I'm so popular this game.

Ulm how much do you want and how much can you sell me?
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>>152061117
Are you attacking Bandar?
is anyone attacking Bandar?
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>>152061795
Bandar is sitting on Van's capital with 300+ lil tiggers. Fuck if I'm gonna attack him alone.
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>>152062314
It's mostly Atavi archers. Although he is in the lead the war is not going as well as he thought.
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TC, don't do whatever retarded thing you're thinking of doing. I think we all know that the batmen are the real problem.
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>>152061795
He has a W9 bless. Most of it will be dead in a couple of turns, this is almost his entire army.
Attacking him is safe. He has only PD in almsot all his provinces.
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>>152062759
>trust me goy, it's safe to attack him!

If it were so, how come he's in your capital?
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>>152062314
>>152062759
Sorry quoted the wrong post
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>>152062876
Because I let him go there to take back a few provinces and join up with forces from another fort.

You can see he has no mage support he only has mages in his capital, his research is no doubt shit.

The only reason he got this far is because Ermor attacked me with everything he had, but he is busy now so i've gotten back all provines ermor took but one.
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>>152061795

Not really no, was considering it because it seems like that wouldn't be very hard for Abysia.

>>152062759

Thats looks really unimpressive desu.
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>>152063141
What looks unimpressive?
I just showed you his army, and that's his entire army except for a group of mercenaries and a few bandar warriors and tiger riders a few provinces away.
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>>152063075
You let him get to your capital? If he's so weak, then why do you want others to join in and take provinces you could be taking? Not only are you shady as fuck in your arguments, you are also an elf.
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>>152063542
I'm not saying he is weak, I am saying he is in the lead. Read what I've been saying.

I'm saying he's not as far ahead as he would like, anyone attacking him would surely put me in the lead though.
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>>152063348

That army, fairly sure a few mages could wreck those monkeys.
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>>152063657
It's funny that you STILL have some hope.
I am besieging both your forts, so this turn you have no income. And if you think that I have no more forces you are mistaken. You lost.
Let's have a grand fight and you go AI.

>>152061795
No need to listen for elven lies, Mari, I am winning this war. He is dead. But living have to cooperate to remove Ermor. Let's be good, please, be sane.
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>>152064105
This guy is my second or third favorite Russian dominions player. Listen to him.
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>>152063657
And why would someone want you back into the lead? I doubt that army is all he has, and of course you'd say he doesn't have much else because someone attacking him is in your interests.

TL:DR don't listen to a desperate elf that is on the ropes, he'll lie and trick to survive.
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>>152062759
>Tfw no border with the easy ape target
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>>152064064
yes I am not the monkeys and I am not saying that army is impressive I said most of it would be dead in a couple of turns.
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>>152064281
He only has one fort. That is all he has.
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Hey, Orange, you really should have replied first before attacking. I didn't know what your intentions were so I kept a small force stationed on the province. Anyway, if you're still interested in trading here's what you asked for. 10 heavy cav = 250 gold, 10 heavy inf = 100 gold and 1 turn of income from the province 150 gold.
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>>152065260
Sorry, I have 1 more in 80.
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>>152064105
You started the siege on both forts this turn, on my non-cap fort you just took a few mercs, they will die soon.
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>>152065364

Oh, and it's me, Grey, of course, if that wasn't clear.
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>>152065260
>1 spy
>no clue what's below that
>"dude trust me don't you trust elves?"

Sneaky sneaky knife eared kike.
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>>152065434
Ah, indeed, with no lab connected to 2 friendly provinces.
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>>152065364
Don't bully orange.
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>>152065821

I'm not bullying him, just wanted compensation for clearing his capring. I'm not a charity worker after all.
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>>152065967
No backtalking! Now stop bullying your brother, mister.
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>>152066107

Hey, if you love Orange so much, why don't you pay the 500 gold that I want for the province for him?
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>>152066202

Ah, correction 475, he already payed 25 of what I require.

Also, the province has some nice sacreds in case he took a bless. Doesn't seem he took an awake pretender so it should really help. 500 gold isn't all that much for what he'll get.
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>tfw when no one wants to fight the bully
I sacrificed myself for you all. I wanted to be friendly with the bats, but I decided to fight for the common good, in return everyone backstabs everyone to gain something from the chaos.

I'll never trust /vg/ again. At least Ashia is a bro.
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>>152066476

I wanted to help, I really did, but you can't expect me to fly halfway across the world while an evil opportunist eats my land and sits on my cap...
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>>152066476
>ever trusting /vg/
>ever attacking skeletons or bats first
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>>152066202
Fine, I will, but after that I'm going to send you to your room and have sex with you, young man!
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Are Ermor or Machaka here? If so, get in steam chat please.
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>>152066632
I know, bird people are alright.
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>>152066836

But we are not married and also you are a man! That is double haram!
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Orange, I'll move my troops away this turn, since you seem to have agreed to the deal. You'll still have to deal with 6 PD so bring a proper amount of troops.
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>>152067096
Hey kid wanna /ss/

>>152067262
Orange is too young to be accepting any deals! And you are too young to be offering any!
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>>152064281
I will not even only have as much land as I had when Bandar attacked me if I win the war with someone help, the person who helps me will have all of Bandar land, making him quite strong. If no one helps me Bandar will be a major player.

I fail to see the downside to attack an easy target.
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>>152067603
Sorry for the fucked up sentences I'm typing on my phone in bed before sleeping.

Anyway the only thing I will gain
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>>152067390

Please stop being lewd and confusing the situation more than it already is. I just want my sheckels.
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>>152067797
You'll get your allowance! And in return you won't tell daddy about what we do while he's away.
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>>152067891

I swear you must be that one one guy who was pretending to be that goat mom character from that meme vidya in one game I played about a year ago. You act just like he did. It was strange then and it's still strange now.
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>>152068127
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>>152068605
This shit right there. It's not cool.
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>>152068972
You don't need to be cool to be hip!
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>>152066476
I've noticed this about coalitions too. The winners are never, EVER the ones who actually contribute the most. It's always either the ones who sit back and build up while everyone is occupied or the guy they're supposed to be ganging up against who beats up the guys who got suckered into attacking them.
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>>152069210
It can of course be a legitimate tactic, but not this time.
The bats were the biggest player before eating another moderately big player and now they have mostly eaten me, probably no 2 in provinces. There is no way anyone but the bats can win soon even if they truly from a coalition were everyone helps.
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>>152069210
We stray closer and closer to Dominions: Cold War with every passing day. I think we need a mod that adds some sort of actually respectable MAD. Armageddon obviously doesn't cut it.
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>>152069651

Well, I guess we'll just have to try, as soon as the elves die that is. Suffer not the elf to live.
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>>152070098
I thought you managed to relieve the siege on each other's capitals. Maybe you could reconcile? Elves have territory one province away from Chimori and you of course can fly.
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>>152070346

I trust the Lambert about as far as I can throw him after all that's happened between us. I'm more than certain that he would spare not a second thought in backstabbing me as soon as he sees that my troops have flown the coop so to speak, especially considering you can't track the movement of his troops.
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>>152069210
ETBETD, I put the most into the coalition against elves, and managed to win.
Ofc, this is because my allies either fumbled a *lot* or were EA R'lyeh, while I made sure to embroil the other side of the map in a stalemate war that progressed literally nowhere fast.
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>>152070945
No, no, elves are very trustworthy. Just send your armies literally four turns travel away like a good goy, and I promise my glamoured armies will help out.
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http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=3050

Looks like this is taking off. We need a 3 man /domg/ team. Can we get sum1 on the phone?
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Game: MemeOfTheAges
Turn number 9
Next turn due: 16:54 GMT on Thursday August 18th

Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Asphodel Waiting for 2h file
Bandar Log 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Ermor 2h file received
Ashdod 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
T'ien Ch'i 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received


W-what happened to Marignon? are you sick? You never posted turn that early
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>>152058270
I WANT TO PARTY :DDDD
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>>152069210
It's basic diplomacy, you say you cool but by cool you mean you gonna chill while watching others do the dirty work. Unless there are free lands to acquire of course.
I personally try to do that as much as I can, even though that's scum-tier. Anything that can hamper those fakes gods is good to take.
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>>152069210
>>152071979
I guess it's a good thing real life is not a game of dominions otherwise peace wouldn't even be a word in the dictionary.
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>>152072724
Well, if life were any war game where the only means to victory was the brutal annihilation of all opponents, then yeah, there wouldn't be any peace.
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>>152072724
Honestly the strategies used by different countries over the ages aren't that different when it comes to power struggles and spreading your influence. It's just not until total annihilation (usually).
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>>152072724
>I guess it's a good thing real life is not a game of dominions

Life is exactly like that. The only thing that keeps peace between two people/nations is if there is threat of retribution should they act like a piece of shit towards the other. In life, retribution could mean getting shot or put into prison if you're an individual, or getting nuked if you're a nation, thus we have peace. The only thing that games like this differ in is the level of retribution is obviously far smaller and the fact that you are anonymous most of the time, and so does the true nature of humans show itself more often.
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>>152073208
>The only thing that games like this differ in is the level of retribution is obviously far smaller and the fact that you are anonymous most of the time, and so does the true nature of humans show itself more often.

And you know, the fact that real life doesn't have a "win condition" or "end-game" goal. You can live an entire life without ever getting into a fight, but Dom4 is a game so it has to end eventually.
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>>152073208
>The only thing that keeps peace between two people/nations is if there is threat of retribution should they act like a piece of shit towards the other.
Also shit like commerce, ya dingus.
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PAN AND CHINA COLLUDING

PAN IS RIGHT
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>>152074556

Life does have "win conditions". It's programmed into the biology of every living thing on this planet. And that's to acquire as much resources as possible and to reproduce as much as possible. Those who live meekly and never get into a conflict often don't acquire many resources or have many children. Those who risk their very well being and manage to luck out by fucking everyone over often become people like Donald Trump.

>>152074810

Everything in life works of the same basic principles that govern the lives of all animals on this planet. Even in commerce, we have the nations that lead (the alpha), the nations that follow (betas) and the nations that stand against that established order (omegas). Literally everything works this way if you just stop and think about it. And in general, it always involves one entity's superior strength over another. The nations of the world don't do whatever the US says because they like it that way, they do it because the US has much more power than they do and if they don't listen, then they could end up like those ME nations that the US loves to "liberate" ended up. The only nations that stand against the US and survive are those that can indeed enact retribution for aggression.
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>>152075379
>we have the nations that lead (the alpha), the nations that follow (betas) and the nations that stand against that established order (omegas)
Random sidenote, but the wolf experiment that established alphas and betas etc has been thoroughly debunked, and wolves in practice live and organize themselves as families rather than strength based hierarchies.
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>>152075690
Facts certainly aren't going to stand in the way of idiotic evo-psych nonsense.
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>>152075379
>Life does have "win conditions"
No it doesn't. It has a "purpose". Which is reproduction. Nothing more, nothing else. Any other win conditions you make up for yourself.

>The nations of the world don't do whatever the US says because they like it that way
The nations of the world don't do what the US says. They do what they find agreeable.

We have set aside things such as morals, things such as standards and dignity for human beings. We're long past the "might makes right" age, pic related. Flex your nuclear bombs as much as you want, you won't change japan's view on their own laws.

Also how did that Vietnam liberation end up?
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>>152075379
I was about to listen to what you say seriously, but then I saw your pants on head retarded "alpha/beta/omega" analogy.

And you don't even understand the terms you're using yourself.

>Omega (usually rendered ω) is an antonym used to refer to the lowest caste of the hierarchical society. Omega animals are subordinate to all others in the community, and are expected by others in the group to remain submissive to everyone. Omega animals may also be used as communal scapegoats or outlets for frustration, or given the lowest priority when distributing food

Definitely not "omegas are against the established order" definition .
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>>152075690

I never said anything about wolves, but in general superiority among one's own kind in the animal kingdom is established through strength and violence, even among herbivores, let along carnivores. If you don't like the terms "alpha", "beta", etc. then call it whatever you will, but the fact remains that that's just how things are.

>>152075967

>No it doesn't. It has a "purpose". Which is reproduction. Nothing more, nothing else. Any other win conditions you make up for yourself.

Semantics. If you've fulfilled your purpose, especially if you've done it you've gone above and beyond, could that not be considered "winning". And, no reproduction isn't the only purpose that is programmed into our brains. The gathering of resources and the endless needs are just as vital because reproduction is meaningless if you can't feed your offspring.

>We're long past the "might makes right" age, pic related.

No, we're not. We still have the same instincts programmed into our very cells that we had when we were wandering around the land, picking fruit from trees. The example you provide is a trivial thing, if the United States actually wanted something from Japan bad enough that it would threaten them with nuclear annihilation, then the Japanese would have no choice but to fall in line.

>>152076418

I've heard of many versions of the animal hierarchy theory, but I personally like the simplified version the most in which the alphas are the leaders, the betas the followers and the omegas the outcasts.
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Blog here?
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>>>/pol/
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THIS THREAD IS NOW SKELETON PROPERTY
HUMANS GO HOME AND DIE
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>>152081357
Wait humans come back we need your pitiful meat sacks to write more posts.
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>>152076956
>I never said anything about wolves, but in general superiority among one's own kind in the animal kingdom is established through strength and violence, even among herbivores, let along carnivores. If you don't like the terms "alpha", "beta", etc. then call it whatever you will, but the fact remains that that's just how things are.

I don't really want to go into the specifics of what you're arguing, I just wanted to make a note about the alpha/beta study.

Basically, that study involved mixing together different kinds of wolves which habitually lived in different ecosystems and keeping them in a controlled area which was different from their natural habitat. The resulting violence and pecking order dynamic that was then applied had been believed to be how wolves lived in the wild.

Observations of how wolves naturally lived, though, showed that they didn't arrange themselves violently. Their packs were primarily extended family units, that were 'led' by older wolves, rather than the most fit ones, and actual violence between adults was fairly rare. The controlled, prison-like structure imposed by the study and the intermingling of different kinds of wolves which didn't normally communicate with each other was why the wolves had fought within their pseudo-pack

t. huge nerd
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>>152083606
Thank you, pitiful meat sack.
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>>152051998
Hey Ginnungagap admin,could I please have my pretender deleted?
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Is it possible to make a commander dual wield a forged weapon with his default weapon or will it always just replace the old one?
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>>152084287
Will do, daddy-o
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>>152084343

It depends

Inherent weapons like a Naga's bite/gaze will remain. Swords and such will get replaced by equipment. Claws, I think, also replace.
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>>152084847
So even if it's a one handed weapon and he has nothing in his other hand, there's no way to keep the original one? I wonder if the same goes for shields.
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>>152084343
I think it replaces the old one, unless he has many arms. Not sure about ambidextrous guys, who may be into dual wielding from the start.
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>>152076956
I'd hardly call the difference between "purpose" and "win condition" semantic in nature.

I'm not particularly interested in getting into the "Alpha-Beta" cranial-measurements argument with you. Given that we're not talking about Cattle, but rather Humans, it should be obvious enough that the world is more complex than a simple ranking system. Specialization creates many "Alphas" in different situations. And when the situations change, so too does the one given the most "authority". Even the Hindu caste system, with its tens of thousands of castes, gave different circumstances where some casts were placed above others in regards to that subject.

This also applies to nations; Sure, the US presently has the most powerful military in the world, but the Chinese outnumber it in computer programmers 3:1, and in manufacturing generally. If China decided not to trade with the US any more, it would send shockwaves through the US (and, for that matter, China) that would quite possibly lead to a temporary economic collapse. Russia is almost as powerful as the US militarily, and has been making territorial grabs in various places in the past decade - against the (overt) wishes of the US Government. Nothing has happened. Why? Because the world is more complex than a simple "who is bestest" assessment. At any given moment, something could happen that turns the global Status Quo on its head.

If the US threatened Japan with a nuclear attack, then Russia or China might well do the same to the US...and the US would lose another potential staging ground against China. It would be a monumentally stupid thing to do. As such, it will not be done, no matter who wins this or the next ten elections.
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Magicka

Join this shit
Join that shit

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Ginnungagap

I need more pbems in my life
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>>152085026

I could see it getting done accidentally during a speech, depending on how the next one goes. But the US populous is demonstrating at least a moderate degree of sanity, to judge by the polls, so it'd still be incredibly unlikely.
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>>152085834
To be fair, it's not like the populous actually has much control over who wins elections.
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>>152083606
It's almost like people perform certain "experiments" specifically to get certain results. I wonder what one could possibly hope to gain through such activities.
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>>152085834
Eh, you have too much faith in the system. Which is kind of a funny statement, given that you just said that a president might declare war through a speech...

The "Prussian General Staff" of America wouldn't let that happen. They've got a much tighter grasp of this country than most realize.
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>>152086527
Not enough to stop Obama from arming ISIS, apparently.
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>>152086631
Lol.

I wish I could say that I thought that wasn't intentional.
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>>152086058

Well, yeah. But Trump's down to a single-digit lead in fucking TEXAS. He's also made a few spectacularly retarded decisions organizing campaign staff (an office in every state!), and pretty much the entirety of the Republican establishment is either trying to work out how to stop riding this goddamn tiger while paying lip service, or are openly opposing him.

It'd take a fucking miracle.
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>>152085687
This right here, join the fucking PBEMs you fucking wageslave normalfags REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>152086527

The original statement was threatening to nuke Japan, I'm fully aware it's not gonna be DONE, but he's already said he'd be entirely cool selling South Korea nukes and letting them and the north sort things out between themselves.
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>>152087318
Interesting that Trump keeps making terrible, support-eroding statements and decisions. It's almost like he is trying to get Killary "elected".
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>>152087729

No, he did that during the primaries as well.
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>>152087318
1. We Texans hate Hillary (recent poll shows that 60% of Texans support SECESSION if she gets elected.)
2. Every state is up for grabs because previous voter coalitions are eroding.
3. The loser Republicans who are opposing him are in a definite minority, and they're mostly Bush surrogates, and most major republicans support him.

AND
>>152087729
4. Read this and shut up. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-remarks-in-milwaukee-wisconsin
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>>152088150
You texans are fucking crazy, and always have been. You see the NW of your state? How it's straight lines? That's because upon joining the US you started invading other states until the federal government paid you not to.
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>see about the multi community game
>think it would be cool
>know a community that hasn't been invited yet
>(the Spanish speakers at Punta de Lanza)
>go to invite them
>take the trouble to write a post on Spanish, which I'm nowhere near as good at as English
>they tell me politely and in English that they don't give a single fuck about the game
O-oh...

I feel like such a tool
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>>152088150
>(recent poll shows that 60% of Texans support SECESSION if she gets elected.)
Aw man, can we not? Being a part of the United States is kind of a big deal even if you don't like the person in charge and people would call it "Texit" which is just a stupid name.
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>>152088421
Isn't there an Italian community as well? Was that one invited?
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>>152088421
>>152088150
That is quite an insult. You two should talk about what sort of structures could be erected in order to prevent contact with such unsavory people in the future...
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I want to play MA Ermor soley so I can name my pretender Hillary's Closet
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>>152089187
>Look at me, I know an epic political mey-mey
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>>152087601
>NK and SK in all out war
>NK/SK conflict is pushed back into the spotlight
>We get new Mercenaries game that doesn't suck
Could it happen?
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>>152085687
>http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Ginnungagap

Well seems Lanka is already taken but might as well ask anyway: how does one play Lanka? T3 is a given, and looking at the sacreds maybe E/W9N9 bless? Gonna need to tank some scales for that though.
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>>152088504
After what I just told you, what makes you think I want to put my poor tender self esteem on the line by interacting with people who speak a language I'm even less familiar with?
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>>152090204
That's the beauty of being anonymous, your self esteem isn't on the line.
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Also due to the number of people getting involved I'm forgoing the sepreation of /v/anhiem and /domg/, you shitters can send a single team to get swept by the others.

Also someone claim captianhood and message the admin email so I can start getting thisd thing rolling, Cool Story, you want to represent the russians?

[email protected] for reference
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If two commanders are adjacent and attack the province the other is in on the same turn, will they just bypass each other and attack the province they moved to or will they actually fight?
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>>152090836
The game will randomly determine which attack happens first.
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>>152090204
Well if you want you could post whatever you want to post as OP here and I'll translate it. Will be after I sleep though (so in about in ~8 hours).

>>152089943
B9 can also be great, make anyone thinking they'd spam evo against your undead chaff regret it (yes they can build MR but it gets expensive really quickly, so big mages might MR through but smaller ones are gonna drop like flies).
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>>152090420
>Cool Story, you want to represent the russians
Vava Grey represents the Russians.

>>152090420
>Also someone claim captianhood
I nominate Lambert
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>>152090836

It gets rolled. There are three possible outcomes: battle in province 1, battle in province 2, or the armies passing each other to attack each other's origin province.

The first two are much more likely, but I have seen the third happen. Apparently army size//speed affects the odds.
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>>152086271
Well, the funny thing is that this wolf study wasn't engineered to get the alpha/beta results (in fact, it's a large part of where that idea of wolf packs came from). It was just really poorly done because they assumed that if they just slammed a bunch of wolves into a place, that they'd act naturally.
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>>152089943
Lanka can go with quite a few blesses since their sacreds are pretty dang good
N9 is good for obvious reasons, you have a lot of sacreds with pretty high HP already and a lot of summons that can pull thug duty with it. Might also be useful for blood communions with raktapata's.
W9 is good just to make them killy as fuck, it's also a preferable expansion bless for Anusaras and makes them a good option compared to Palankashas. W9 Palankashas will murder 95% of what comes at you in the early game.
B9 isn't quite as good as it is on Xib or Mictlan, since Lanka's more about the mage summons than masses of sacred demons, but it's not as though any of your non sacred troops are worth recruiting.
Minor E is great given the amount of sacred mages you have.
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>>152091008
>>152091454

So let's say I have 2 commanders each controlling a small force. They are in two different provinces but they both share a border with a province occupied by an enemy commander with a large force. His large force would beat either of my small ones alone, but he would lose if I combined the two.
If I have both my commanders attack him, and he attacks one of mine, it is up to chance whether my commanders will join and beat him, or stay divided and lose one by one?
Do you know if the chances are in my favor in this situation or not?
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>>152091815
Kinda disagree on B9, it's not as good to make your shit killy, but it's good later in the game when you got blessed assholes among the undead chaff taking AoE evocations and BVing mages to death (unless the opponent spends a lot to MR up everybody).
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>>152091932
Your situation:
[A]->[B]-><-[C]
The end result would look like this:
[ ] - [A] - [BC] or [] - [ABC] - [] or [] - [AC] - [B]
The first one is much more likely because B is bigger than C in the scenario you described, but the second one has a small probability of happening. The third scenario almost never happens with armies of appreciable size.
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>>152091932
Best option is to move one small army to the other armies province, either they fight together against the big army or the big army takes the province your army just left.
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>>152091932

Generally your best bet is consolidating first. Movement into a friendly province ALWAYS occurs prior to movement into a hostile.
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>>152092287
So the smart move would be to move one of my commanders onto the other and either hope the province I converged on is the one he attacks, or attempt to fight AFTER safely joining them and sacrifice one province.
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>>152092618
Probably. Usually I've found that taking two of his provinces and losing one of mine is better
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>>152091582
The study was performed on wolves in a zoo. That quite obviously has very little baring on wild wolves - and that's coming from a non-bio-psychiatrist layman. For all we know, this Schenkel was told that one of these wolves was "a real bitch" before he even decided to conduct the study. Politics pervades all aspects of human society - including the scientific establishment.

The assumption that we're told was made is one that flies in the face of reason.
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Why didn't you guys tell me playing R'lyeh was so fun?

>endless cultists
>mind blasts and paralyzing everyone
>summoning deep one monstrosities

I'm still new to the game, is this how you do it?
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>>152094509
The fuck kind of scales are those

Why do you have so many unused gems

Are you playing SP?
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>>152094509
It's even more fun with summod
You can make MORE void gates
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what stops morvach?

I want general responses for
-early game
-mid game
-late game

ty
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>>152094782
That's really not a lot of unused gems, depending on research.
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>>152094782
I have no clue what I'm doing still, it's SP

>>152094902
I've got it generalized, should I be specializing in certain trees?
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And thus, the end of Helheim.

So, whose next on Sauro's chopping block?
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>>152095107
>should I be specializing in certain trees?
Yeah to an extent, I'm not really sure what though. That's a pretty complicated topic that I don't really know all that well. If you live long enough you'll eventually have everything researched but in an MP setting there's usually important breakpoints you want to hit in order to deploy useful battle magic as early as possible to turn the tide in your favor.
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>>152094897
Lots of things stop Morcach. Since you didn't include your nation, I'll pretend that you're Ulm

>-early game
The same thing you use for everything else - heavy infantry and arbalests. Arbalests in particular are great because they ignore their high def and punch through their high prot. Their AoE attack may be AP, but it's fairly low damage, so your infantry should be able to hold the line fairly well.

Earth Meld turns killing them from a tough fight to a trivial one, so get that up asap

>-mid game
Your go-to evo spells often are resisted by prot, and by now the morvarcs are probably flanking for kernou dudes. Luckily, you've got destruction and either more earth melds or maws to break their armor and keep them in place. Destruction + Evo or maws + arbalests will let you deal with large numbers fairly easily.

>-late game
You no longer care about them. If you got access to fog warriors, they can pop that well, but they're otherwise just very expensive cavalry. Your army of gold casts in particular will shut them down hard.
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Has anyone tried teleporting grandmothers onto land?
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WORRY
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>>152099890
They die but I'm not sure if their death wail does anything.
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>>152100875
It shouldn't. It's a combat effect. I was assuming a fish amulet and was more asking about their freespawn and what all they can do there
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>>152085687

>MA
>Ermor

No thanks I prefer having fun in my games.
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>>152103223
>he doesnt rush ermor
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>>152105679

>Getting a few provinces devoid of life, giving no money, supplies or resources

Gee you sure gained a lot from that.

Unless everyone fucks Ermor equally, they are just an unfun element to the game. Let them get to big and they get annoying as shit. Rush them early and whoever fights them are weakened for the rest of the game.
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>>152105826
its just the way of life lad
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>>152105923

Or you don't play with Ermor at all
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>>152106178
or dont be a little bitch about it I'm the one playing Pythium
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>>152106336

Nah I'll just not play in a game that allows unmoded Ermor, I like having fun in my games
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>>152106429
k
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>>152106854
MABUS
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>>152085687
I can't do the current summod verision
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>>152103223
Would you feel better if I told you this will be my first time playing Ermor?
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>>152108849
why not?
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>>152106429

We're playing with non-summod Ermor, it'll be interesting to see if he gets gangbanged quickly or not.
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>>152085687

I'll join up on Ginnugagap tomorrow when I get time to sit down and design a pretender.

Never played with summod or magic enhanced before, quick rundown on what they do?
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>>152114283
Summod makes balance changes to various nations, improving weak nations and nerfing strong nations. Magic expanded includes a bunch of new spells, including new generic lategame spells, like various pretender chassis summons, and more national spells.
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>>152088503
Texout sounds better
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10 focken teams.

Also, any of you more artisitc or autistic types interested in getting a custom flag mod going for the Clash?
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>>152085687
Might join Ginnungagap in a few hours. My current set of PBEMs is starting to finish.

>>152120408
What would a /domg/ flag look like? Tan/green/maroon colour scheme with a clover on top?
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>>152076956
>If you've fulfilled your purpose, especially if you've done it you've gone above and beyond, could that not be considered "winning"

So if you've already won, what's keeping you from killing yourself?
I mean you won, that's it, it doesn't get better than that does it?
Answer is simple though, spawning a baby into the world is hardly an achievement and man seeks more. That's why he invented entertainment, art and culture.


>And, no reproduction isn't the only purpose that is programmed into our brains. The gathering of resources and the endless needs are just as vital because reproduction is meaningless if you can't feed your offspring.

"Reproduction isn't everything, we also have stuff that helps with reproduction programmed".
And I wasn't talking just about humans, every single living being, whether a bacteria or plant exists solely to reproduce. Life is life's own purpose. And honestly judging people's worth based on the most primitive form of accomplishment only makes you look like a primitive yourself. Nikola Tesla had no children, but I'd hardly call him a bigger loser than Jamal with 5 kids he can barely feed and no job.
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I like your daily news R'lyeh, it gives me reason to keep going. Thanks.
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Someone tell me what roleplaying is like, especially in games like Ginnugagap.
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>>152124000
The Long John Silver strategy eh?
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>turn 14
>ermor already cast burden of time

This game got interesting quicker than expected. I know Asspoodle has been attacking skellingtons and now I imagine the gangbang will grow, though I'm not sure who else even shares borders with Ermor.

I ain't even mad, lizards just don't give a fuck.
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>>152124932
moves fast for a dead man
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>>152095548
That's frightening. Seriously is nobody going to try and kill Sauro? We all saw the graphs.
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Heads up to all the crafters out there, we've now went up one level in Earth and Nature, bringing us to
5 Nature
3 Water
3 Earth
2 Air
1 Fire
1 Death
1 Astral
1 Blood

This will also be officially announced next turn, but I figured some might want to be prepared and ask for the items one month earlier. As a secret tip, after 3 or 4 turns we might also get D3 so look forward to that

As a side note from now on we're also accepting any sort of gems for the base cost of Earth, Nature and Water items, so feel free to buy frost brands and vine shields with fire gems if that's your fancy.
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>>152125317
I've asked several of their neighbors, but Ulm is still trying to kill Vanheim with Snu Snu instead, Agartha has sent 0 replies, and Pan is . . . hesitant to fight them alone for obvious reasons. I haven't sent Ur any messages about it, as he's cooking up some monkey stew atm. Arco can only realistically take the Black Sea from them. I myself suffer from a lack of lungs, and while thralls are really good at killing humies and elves, they don't quite understand what to do against horses.
I don't know how many Sauro has swayed to their side, as they're extremely adept at diplomacy (a higher level than Malakal, at least).

Helheim is dead, and banter between Sauro and I (which can be summed as as hands off the UW, and I'll keep the tentacles off the land) reveals they'll be entirely removed in 2-3 turns, with AI Niefel not lasting much longer. They have declined to tell me whose next on the chopping block, but I suspect the answer is Agartha personally, but it might be Vanheim. Alone, either would be crushed in short order.
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>>152126034
Oooh, did you get the in game message I sent? I don't exactly need the item any time soon, but an eta would be amazing if possible.
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>>152126367
Production started immediately, the item shall be delivered as soon as its done Mr. Squidward.
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>2 thrones just 2 tiles away from each other
>one has 80 heavy infantry
>the other has 500 vine ogres

what the fug
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>>152126264
I am certain that I specified that I had no plans to fight anyone and wanted to instead focus on rebuilding my economy and finally getting around to site-searching. I have enjoyed and will continue to enjoy lasting peace with my neighbors for as long as I can find reason to do anything else other than attack them. It should be easy to do, as I have ample trade partners and I love dealing in gems more than troops.
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>>152127134
>attacks weak neighbor to get at AI and two thrones
>"I totes want peace guys"

Don't dally, because YOU'RE NEXT
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>>152127640
I mean, I know I'm not next. Being Underwater and all. Amazons know better than to enter my waves - or they will soon enough dare they try.

I promise support and aid to all honored allies against the great menace though. Just ask Fomoria and Pelagia, I help my friends and treat them well.
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>>152085687
>Ginnungagap
>Map: Urraparand
>Max Players: 12
Isn't that a bit sparse? People will get pretty big before fighting starts.
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Given the choice between an awesome pun on your pretender chassis and keeping the chassis secret what do you choose?
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>>152091258
>>152091815
>>152092058
So an N9 bless is a given, and if I wish to go dual bless, W9 would be more for early game and expansion, while B9 would make for a stronger midgame and lategame, correct? I guess minor E would be good all along as well.
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>>152132628

Go with the awesome pun for a pretender chassis, and then use a different chassis.
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>>152132628
Puns all the way.
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>>152126264
Still in a bad shape from the staling, I am in no position to help when bats attacked me out of the blue, so I'll have to deal with them first.
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>>152132628
if people get the pun they will all try to counterplay horrified by your awake assasin, which is probably more damaging that assasining a single opponent.
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Wew C'tis, you got me with that 50 PD.
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>>152134146
I told you I would ruin my chance of winning if it meant stopping you.
Expect 75 PD and my entire army next time you come.
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>>152134609
>not 100 PD

You're working with pan right?
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>>152135041
Of course
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live.
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>>152132078
I'm not good at judging that, I just go by the suggested player count in the map description.
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>>152132078
>>152137728
Urraparand is 12 land provinces per player. It is actually on the small side for 12 players, usually province count per player ranged from 11 (small, fast games) to 16 (long, big games).

So 130 to 190 is more or less fine for this game. I'm fine with Urraparand but if I were forced to criticize, I'd say it's a little small, usually I prefer games with around 13-14 provinces per player.
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>>152132680
I'm wondering this too, is it worth tanking your scales for a dual bless? T3 is mostly mandatory, which means you'll want some L to tame the events.You'll also want some growth to offset the popkill from hunting I guess. So something like Turmoil3Heat3Growth1Luck2Magic1? Then take 1 or 2 sloth since you will mostly rely on summons? Seems the sacreds with a doublebless will take down anything in groups of 4-6 anyway, you won't need many.
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>>152132680
>>152138761
I'd post what I did but would basically give away my strategy so I guess I'll do it further ahead in the game.
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Khanate of White I swear to Batman if you don't do a double turn I will remove you.
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>>152124932
Well, none of you assholes wanted to play my betting game, but I still have my awake god with astral and am nearly at ench 5.
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>>152124932
This is what you get for playing without Summod, I hope you learned your lesson and never play without Summod ever again.
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>>152124932
I doubt any of you will be able to gather enough pearls for a dispel, enjoy aging.
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>tell everyone I'm going to dispel BoT
>they all send me their pearls
>don't dispel
>keep the pearls
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>>152140501
DELETE THIS
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>>152140501
>he keeps the pearls then uses them to cast his own global
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>>152140501

>ever sending your pearls to a nation that isn't effected by BoT

Why do people do this?
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>>152140645
>thinking I won't do it just because BoT is affecting me as well

I hate the guts of every single player in all my games from the very first turn, I only act friendly because it's beneficial to me. If I can destroy the game for everyone, I will do so regardless of the situation as soon as I have the chance.
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>>152140804
>I hate the guts of every single player in all my games from the very first turn

This desu, I've been backstabbed too many times, I only have hatred for others in me now.
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>>152140804
>>152140963
>be friendly
>make friend with another nation early on
>help him in need
>together we defeat all other nations
>settle the game by sending all our troops to a final showdown

Frogs will never know this feel.
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>>152127923
I mean damn, I could have helped if you didn't mistake a death site for my scales. I'm probably going to go down in the next 4 turns or so, but c'est la vie.
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>>152139938
My bad! Llama was supposedly waiting on the Emirates so I took my time with it. I won't make that mistake again.
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As no-one else has volunteered or been volunteered for the position, I hereby claim the role of captain of the /domg/ team.

My decision based on my knowledge of people here and some dice rolls is that our team shall be made up of Coolstory, Malakal and Nicknight. Do not fail us.
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>>152143209
Surely Lambert should be in an the one with a pretender, he will surely help the team to his fullest capabilities.
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>>152143209
Except Nicknight is working for another community, Coolstory might be with the Russians? Malakal solo?
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>>152143352
Malakal will probably join the RPGcodex team.
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>>152143351
Lambo is a modder. Ergo, Mods team.
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>>152143209
Malakal might be working for RPGcodex forum.
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>>152144043
Suppose we decided on one well-known player who isn't playing in any other team and let them construct the rest of the team themselves?
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>>152144119
Where's sum1won when we need him?
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>>152114040
It's happening. I assume.
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>/domg/ comes up with the community clash idea and organizes the whole thing
>it's /domg/ who can't put together their own team
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Abysia 2h file received
Agartha 2h file received
Arcoscephale 2h file received
Bandar Log 2h file received
Caelum 2h file received
Jotunheim 2h file received
Nazca 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
>T'ien Ch'i Waiting for 2h file
>Ys Waiting for 2h file
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>>152145673
It's kind of hard to do when there are only a handful of named people here and they all got their names from other communities.
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>>152145919
Buckle up, you're gonna be waiting till my lunch break
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>>152145919
>>152146148
And he doesn't work until Sunday.
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I wish I could start playing this game but even at 30 hours I don't know what the fuck am I doing.
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Not a big fan of humblebragging since it tends to backfire but this is honestly pretty funny
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>>152148251
mage support desu
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>>152148251
what did mari even expect with that wizard assistance.
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>>152148251
>only 2 lion tribe warriors
How did he expect to win that?
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>>152148196
go multiplayer. AI does not teach you anything.
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>>152140121

>This is what you get for playing without Summod

Ermor's gonna be dead in a few turns because I'm raping him.

Ermor's OP without summod though, right? :^)
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>>152149720
Of course he's going to die. He should have used those gems for mages and priests.

Ermor is a OP when going tri-bless, not OP otherwise and underpowered with summod no matter what.
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Is maximum cancer Ermor (D10T3S3C3D3M3D3) viable?
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>>152150007
You won't even get any money for your first fort this way.
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>>152150007
Yes and it is by far the most fun way to play Ermor. Pick an awake Prince of Death or something, just take as much land as you can, ignore research for first ~12-15 turns, cancer up everything.
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>>152141391
>be friendly
>make friend with another nation early on
>help him in need
>together we defeat all other nations
>Thronerush before I ever actually have to fight anyone
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>>152150563
You are a really dumb dummy.
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HOL UP
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>>152150007
>M3
Turn that frown, upside down!
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MAKE A MODNAT GAME ALREADY REEEEEEEEEEEE
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Now Vanheim is dead. GG. I am greatful to everyone who were cooperative and neutral towards me during this crusade. We all can be friends. Except Ermor. He is bad.

Unfortunately I haven't been able to capture all the provinces in which he may be able to retreat. Vanheim secured one of them and all Vanjarls still alive there. But it doesn't matter, without army he is defeated. Let's have a round of applause to him before he goes AI.

Jokes aside, he was a good player, but being a bully with such a weak early-game strategy was a grave mistake.

Peace.
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>>152154954
I want to play vampire lizards.
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Is Ys here?
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Ur experience in nutshell
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>>152156580
Git gud
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>>152156681
Well, that's Marveni experience in nutshell, nothing much to do with Ur
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why dominions no lewd or porn?
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Join this shit

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Ginnungagap
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>>152145673
We're a melting pot. People from other communities come here because of the frequent blitzes.
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>>152158451
Isn't that map a bit small if we intend to play with full 12 players?
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>>152156580
>No Shamans at all
>Using Ur's garbage sacreds against Sauro's actually good sacreds

Nothing unusual happened here desu
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>>152158967
>Sauro's actually good sacreds
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>>152158967
Ur's sacreds are just slightly better normal troops for them with less upkeep
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Okay that does it REMOVE SKELETON REMOVE SKELETON JIA YOU PAN TAN QUO TING PANG HUAAAAA
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>>152158391
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>>152161232
its not really a problem :)
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>>152158391
The only lewd Dominions fanfiction in existance.

And it's not even any good.

http://pastebin.com/4MXnaFDL
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>>152161293
DELET THIS
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TELL ME ABOUT BANE
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>>152162664
Mememod or no mememod? Everything hinges on that.
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>>152162785
Doesn't matter for this battle, since those are freespawn
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>>152162785
WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK?
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IF I TAKE THAT PROPHET OFF WILL YOU DIE?
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>>152163464
>that shitty bless

he deserves to lose
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>>152163002
For the specific battle no but Ermor is completely useless in Summod.
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>>152162664
Congrats Mari. You are truly the hero we need but not the one we deserve.


Play your turn though.
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>>152161485

There's also that Kurgi porn.
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>>152155501

I am indeed, my good man.
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>>152156681

git gudder
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fucking nerds
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Live
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>>152071324
I just got back to Burgerland. If I have time to move into my apartment, I can participate.
>>
we should seriously think about who is going to be in the /domg/ + /v/anheim team(s?).

Lambert seems to be in too many PBEM to play, many of "our" major players betrayed our communities for their little forums.

If you feel fairly experienced you should think about stepping up and proposing yourself.
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>>152167279
Current team is Cirno, Eldritch and Kami.
So, at least we have a team guys?
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>>152167407
Oh fuck that.
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>He sunk an entire turn of his income into PD for this province
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>>152167407
>Cirno
why not the AIs play for us?
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Since none of the other communities want summod, why don't we pick bats and send Scrubgen Chimori?
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>>152167407
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0248pUAteWk

Congrats, we've organized a cross community game where we are gonna get cucked.
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>>152167608
>why don't we pick bats
>implying it's gonna be that easy
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>>152167616
Maybe we just wanna watch the gangbang and not participate.

Mostly because we're all too self-conscious to join in. I for one am way too bad.
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>>152167515
>20 exactly

Likely random event, stop trying so hard.
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>>152167913
events give 10pd
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>>152167608
>Sy - Today at 6:51 PM
>I'd play I guess

HE AGREES.
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>>152168173
Events add up.
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>>152168173
I once had a province with 50 PD from events and eunuchs.
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should we vote, as a community, for which people we want in the team, after they propose themselves?
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>>152168758
sure. I love rigging strawpolls
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>>152168758
Pan is always right.
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>>152167195
Also, do a 3 round submission draft or give each team 5-6 randomly selected nations to choose from.
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>>152169404
>>152169404
what about a bidding game?
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>>152169745
Not sure how that'd work.
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>>152170438
Pay real money to get good nations.
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>>152168214
I vote for sy
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Demiliches can Stygian Path around if you need to move them, right?
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>>152158967
This is the Ur in that game.

I ran my scorpion king into a province with 3 hidden air mages, and my prophet got killed by indie bats. I never had the money spare to build a lab and recruit shamans, and was invaded by Sauro just as I started to get things going.

I'm really shit, but at least there were somewhat mitigating circumstances.
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>>152163630
Hardly. It's definitely weaker, though.
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>>152172297
No, can't use stygian paths, gateway, or faery trod, pretty sure the only one they can use is teleport.
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>>152172501
>was invaded by Sauro

bad. ur invade me first!
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>>152172774

Son of a bitch.

Flying Carpet?
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>>152173151
Won't work.
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STOP LETTING THE THREAD DIE
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>>152175408
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ded thred
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>>152176801
>>152175408
Let me organise the fucking community clusterfuck you fucking morons
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>>152176801
Wasn't even page 10
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Centaur sage thugs

Yay/Nay?
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>>152177069
Your Pans make much better thugs.

Minotaurs would make good thugs as well if they didn't default to trampling shit.
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>>152177069
Maybe? Would have to see how well it did against higher levels of PD.
Also, nice 60 AP
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>>152177069
earthpower, iron skin, body ethereal, astral shield...

yeah, pretty good
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>>152177438
They do alright.
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>>152177069
>fatigue
>40

too high desu.
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>>152178496
>reinvig
>layered mitigation from ethereal, luck, astral shield, and vine shield
40 fatigue is fine with all that. They won't pass out from combat and they can survive a crit or two from PD given their reasonable HP pool and high chance to avoid hits entirely
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>>152177069
Consider using an N9 Shroud :^)
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>be Arcoscephale
>faggot claims throne of gaymen
>vine ogres and vine men attacks led by a single human commander
>spend 5 turns waiting for the 3 neighbouring forts to recruit a random S2 mages so i can mind burn the shit out of that without purchasing a real army ( i am at war elsewhere)
>get F2 W2 and E2 shit but no S2

fuck randoms. i wish mage recruitment could work cyclically.
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>>152179857
Shoulda commit with a newly recruited army.
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Is there anywhere that lists the point costs for each pretender gods chassis?
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>Be gay lizard
>Have sex with cuck Ermor human
>Tell him how to summon a skeleton to please his waifu
>One year later all Ermorians have been replaced by skeletons

Literally what is happening to Europe RIGHT NOW
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>>152185175
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/?page=unit&unittype=8
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>>152185364
Inspector doesn't show costs for autocalc'd gods.
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Sum1 + Sy + (You)?
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>>152187747
Actually we have coolstory, he turned the russians down.

We went from having 1 team to 2 teams in less than an hour.
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>>152167407
Ratepe is bretty okay.
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>>152187859
Fool! Don't say it in the thread! They still have my family.
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>>152187886
t. Ratepe
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>>152188089
Correct.
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So I know what the red and blue bars under units mean in battle, but I just saw a green bar show up for the first time. Anybody know what it is? I assume it's got something to do with poison because it happened during a foul vapors enchantment but I'd like to know more about what exactly it means/does if you guys didn't mind.
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>>152189087
Poison damage. Each turn the unit takes 1/10th of that in actual damage and the bar decreases by that amount.
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>>152189240
Ah I see, so if there is nothing continually increasing the poison then it will just deal damage proportional to the bar and then run out?
Also is there a way to see the actual number or am I stuck estimating based on the size of the bar?
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>>152189404
Yes, it will slowly bleed damage into the person, and you can work it out thorugh the combat log damage values but otherwise I don't think so.
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>>152167407
>Cirno
>Self-admittedly bad player
>Newbie who doesn't know shit about anything yet

Oh this should be good.
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>>152190353
That's basically /domg/ in a nutshell. This team is perfect.
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>>152190353
hahahahahah, Kami.
During a blitz not so long ago I managed to get him to goai after taking two 0PD provinces with harpies. I didn't ever border him. The rage is strong with this one.
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Is there a way to keep my mages from using extra gems? Even with conservative gem usage turned on they still often use more gems than are required for spells.
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>>152189798
Thanks friendo, that clears things up a bit.
On a side note, do you (or anyone else here for that matter) know of any mods or utilities that improve the combat log or at least put it into a searchable text format I can sift through?
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>>152191441
>they still often use more gems than are required for spells
nigga, do you even understand how gem usage works? they can use them because they need additional gems for bonus spell levels or fatigue reduction.
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>>152191693
I don't think so, sorry.
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>>152170438
Each team gets 100 credits. Pangea comes up.
Team 1 bids five credits, team two bids ten, so on. Winner has less credits to bid with for their next two slots. If you're out of credits you pick remaining slots after everyone else is full/out.
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>>152191725
I know about the bonus levels and fatigue reduction, I just thought that conservative magic gem usage would stop that as long as they already met the path requirement and weren't going above 100 fatigue.
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>>152191851
Congratulations, you've found how to make the draft stage last until we have grandkids
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>>152192154
It should stop that though. Can you screenshot what exactly your mages were casting and at what path levels?
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Evaluate your Dominions 4 player skill on the scale from 1 to 10.
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>>152192623
7
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>>152192623
I've won only 5 games, so I rate myself 5
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>>152192623
7-5-3 early-middle-late game. I can't be arsed scripting a tonne of mages to in the lategame my scripting is sloppy and often not well-thought through. The more repetitive scripting is needed the worse I get.
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>>152192623
10/10

I'm the strongest player in the world.
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>>152193391
This.
>tfw would likely be an objectively good player if I had the autism to test out and spend a lot of time on everything I do
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>>152193491
Fuck off Cirno.
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>>152192623
12/10
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6.6/10

That's what a 66% winrate would be, right guys?
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>>152124932
>turn 14
You have to be 18 or older to post here.
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>>152194367
He'll be 18 in 4 turns m8.
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>>152192623
6/10
I know the basics, most usual strats, what to watch out for against particular nations and so on.
So scrub tier basically.
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>>152194367
18 years is 216 turns (or 204, depending on how you count year 1)
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>>152194620
You don't start counting at zero. The first year is year one.
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>>152192623
Solid 5.
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>>152194504
>BoT already up
He'll be 19 tomorrow if he fails his MR check.
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>>152194620
He mentioned BoT is up. 4 months.
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>>152194740
That's how Koreans do birthdays too. So it'd be 18 in 204 turns.
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>>152194740
It's year one, but one year has elapsed only when it's complete. 216 turns.

Same as how the century written as 14XX is the 15th century.
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>>152192623
4/10, but above-par for /domg/.
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>>152192623
played for longer than 4 has been out and never won a game/10
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>>152158391
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>>152197049
Hi Point
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I'm so sad. Not a single Basalt King wanted to join my cause.
So many tears.
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>memegeddon got fucked up again

Fuck this shit.
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Anyone got a problem with the /domg/ team being sum1, sy, and coolstory?
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>>152200119
I think the team with Cirno better reflects the average skill level of /domg/
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>>152200049
Llamabeast has already been sent an email. Hopefully it will be sorted out, so bats will need to claim thrones to win as is proper.
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>>152200283
This. Community Clash is the ultimate memegame (seriously, it's a fucking 36 players game) and it doesn't make sense to send a serious team.
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Considering entering an EA game as Hinnom.

Do I go full just fuck my empire up with a N9E4 pretender, """"armies"""" of mega-sacred fuck-giants that will devour the world. A cancerous tumour that has to grow or implode upon itself.

Or the safer build with a blood pretender, build up armies of pretty cool middle-giants, and unleash the masters of civilization on the lategame.
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We should really send the biggest shitters this time so in next version we could blindside them by tryhard team.
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>>152200831
But who will you choose to send when there's such strong competition for the title of biggest shitter?
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I am unstoppable.
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>>152201953
Wizard Aid.
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>>152202007
I've got no reasearch and pretty much none of those guys are useful.
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>>152201953
Enchanter Assistance
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>>152202152
Lifelong protection won second battle apparently.
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>>152200772
Focusing on the avvites is probably the better strategy. The rephaites aren't worth dealing with the population eating shenanigans. Although, you can take a bless and then swap production to avvites after expansion is over, since N9E4 is still going to be useful for thugging and communions.
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>>152203306

The N9E4 strat seems like either you commit to it or its kinda a waste of points.

I'll use Rephites regardless, but I feel if you build a bless around them you need to use them the whole game.
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>>152203464
N9E4 isn't that expensive. Hinnom wants a lot of scales, but N9E4 is useful at practically every stage of a game even if you're not using sacred units.
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>>152203464
You dont' build bless around them just like you don't build N9E4 around Nifel giants (and they are noticeably worse than nifel giants). You can use them early on, but they lose power very very fast.
You build bless around kohens (cheapish thugs) baals (decent heavy thugs) and seir.
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>>152192258
Sure, oh and one more thing I forgot to mention. The mage casting it was a communion master. here's the spell with path and gem requirements and the caster's path and gem levels. Also the fatigue levels of all involved before and after casting.
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>>152203738

True, but you miss out on your endgame powerhouse of the Grigori, which you probably need to lead your armies to victory at the end.

Unless you manage to empower a blood mage to 7, but with how bad their blood hunters are, I wouldn't put my money on it.
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>>152204101
If you are ever in a position to summon more than a grigori or two you can afford to empower.
Odds are you are going to get B4 or A4B3 blood heroes and those bring you most of the necessary boosters with barely a minimal empowerment needed.

Grigori are also not a game defining powerhouse.
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>>152204101
With the heroes as mentioned and maybe some blood boosters plus rings you should be able to get close to it. Besides empowering in blood is arguably easier and less taxing than other paths if you have the blood economy running. Though choices anyway.
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>>152204314
>>152204623

Alright, I'll try out the E4N9 strategy then, you're probably right that I need the thugs to survive midgame, and E4N9 giants does make some mean thugs.

Could get better scales with the B7E4 guy. Best I'm able to reach is Dom6 O3P3H3G2M2M1 Imprisoned E4N9 Great White Bull.

Figured misfortune 2 could work since you have fortune teller mages as your main researchers, and they'll be on most places which are worth keeping.
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Let's play a small vanilla LA game on a fresh map.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=GulagOfFondMemories

Standard settings.
Thrones are placed in the centre.
Provinces are custom named.
Blood and/or Death nations are recommended in order to fully enjoy the Gulag experience.
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Would it be possible to speak with Agartha and Pan in the chat.

Ur as well, I'd like to arrange a special gift from my best benefactor, but I sadly am not sure what to get him.
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>>152207405
Joining as Arco.
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>>152187747
Can we draft Nickknight?
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>>152210393
he's betrayed us and joined spacebattles
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>>152110930
Won't open on my computer I've dropped two games cause of this and none can help me
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>Conserve gem usage
Just does not seem to do anything since the last patch. i've got mages burning gems casting horde of skeletons when they're D2, I've got E4 mages burning two gems per cast summoning earth elementals.
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>everyone turns around as soon as they see my provs

is it because i took d3/h3?
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>>152205390
Take Growth 3 and Prod 2 imo. You really don't need more than P1 for expansion and you don't need it at all afterwards, but the tiny bit of extra gold income is nice, as is the ability to get moar chariots or spearmen or whatever you need when you need it.

Also, expand with ponies, not sacreds, even with the bless. You can field the sacreds if the dude you're fighting can't kill them for whatever reason, but ponies expand flawlessly and the giants cost you more to keep.
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>>152067262

Ok, Done.

I'll start reparations next turn.
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How does storm castle work with friendly reinforcements from a neighboring province?
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>>152220534
Are you defending or storming?
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>>152220594
I have troops on an enemy fort, breached the walls. I want to storm the castle, but also use reinforcements from adjacent provinces. The enemy may also attack/reinforce, but I have no idea how this would work.
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>>152220673
Your reinforcements won't storm the castle in this turn, but they will fight enemy's army if it were to attack your sieging forces.
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>>152220534
>>152220673

First there is a movement phase.
The province outside of the castle counts as 'friendly' for the sieging faction. Reinforcements moving to the besieged castle fight units that have had a hostile move ordered to that province. Units ordered to 'break siege' fight alongside other units ordered to that province.

After the fight outside of the castle, the castle itself counts as a territory to retreat to. Units that tried to break siege might retreat to any neighboring friendly province, or they might retreat back inside of the castle.

After any battles outside of the castle occur, commanders ordered to 'storm' and any units under their control fight any units inside of the castle. Commanders from the attacking nation not ordered to storm do not fight inside of the castle, whether they were just given a different order or just moved to the province.
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>>152220804
Would my reinforcements join my sieging army (and his defending army) if HIS reinforcements attack me?
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>>152220942
Yes, assuming your sieging army gets attack during the regular movement phase.
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>>152220942
Yes. Movement phase occurs before combat phase, so all the moves complete before combat occurs.
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>>152220932
Perfect, thank you!
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so the AI understands declarations of war

will it understand offers of peace anyway?
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>>152221221
no
>>
I can't do my turn because I'm getting a "turn file is corrupted" error.

I've had the turn resent and tried again with the same error. Not sure what to do other than stale, and not sure the next turn will be any different.
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Does the Community Clash thing have any resources to check out atm? Wanna check out that shit as it happens
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>>152212963
Does that mean you've asked for and received help but it just didn't work? Or nobody has helped at all? I could try to figure it out if you told me exactly what's happenin.
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>>152225297
He's the missing barb sprite guy
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HERE COMES A NEW CHALLENGER
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>>152227582
Fuck Ancient Kraken's command grabs, honestly. There's no way to deal with them.
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>>152227778
You think that's OP? Just try killing a fucking Pillar or an obelisk without magic duel
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wew lad.

I hope Cirno can beat them
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>>152230101

Them's fighting words.
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>>152230101
>Show the inferiority of /domg/
>After poaching all of our best players.
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>>152230101
That proposal allows triple Sauro so they have no chance of beating us.
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How much is MA Man improved in Summod? Are there any units/spells that are more viable than its Vanilla version?
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>>152233205
source?
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Goblin Slayer manga
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>>152233435
Thanks
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>Norrping tries to backstab Eillenon while he's fighting bats
>bats fly to one of the provinces he attacked and they both massacre one another

heh

really though, someone has to do something about all these damn bats
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>>152233626
Norrping did something about 46 of them
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Ashia, I saw bats are using sets of 100 bats with only one commander apiece. Are you planning on giving them some 'logistical problems' of their own?
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C'tis I'm going to knock the Machakans off your fort. Don't bump into my army.
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>>152232335
See for yourself, I haven't played them but it seems they got a lot of changes.

https://github.com/sum1won/summod#man-tower-of-avalon
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>>152232335
Quite a lot I'd say. Wardens now have map movement 2 instead of 1, forts with magic 2 spawn Forest Glades which allow you to recruit knights of avalon outside your cap. Knights with enough experience become "renowned knights" with a title which gives them some bonuses/abilities. ("The Fearless" gets a shitton of morale for example) and other overall gold/resource per unit balances. Give them a try.
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>>152234634
Oh right forgot to mention forts in Forest regions, not just any forts.
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>>152233813
Too bad there was more than a thousand of them at last time we had some numbers (~500 sieging Amore and similar number attacking Cynothalu) and it might be 2k at this point. Since I haven't seen many mages flying about, presumably they've put their massive income into research and soon you'll be facing Fog Warriors and such like too.

I mean, what in the actual fuck are you doing, Norrping? At least fight Caesidh and Tashna that are locked out of this particular conflict (but fighting each other such that you can go stabby stabby on them), at this pace we might as well grant Chimori victory by concession.
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>>152235353
Goblins long to serve stronger monsters. It's in their nature.
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Hey Abysia, I want to fight bats too but that ain't happening if you block my path.

>>152209340
I'm here now but I imagine I'm a bit late.
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How's Scrubgen going? Have the bats won or did everyone finally band together?

>>152233205
>>152233626
>still backstabbing eachother

Fuck's sake.
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>>152236946
bats is ded, you really should be looking at the monster gobbling two caps to the west
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>>152048834
Did the camerman catch all that chimori?
7 A3 mages dead.
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>>152236946
i will remove bats from caves. i am good against bats!
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>>152209340
Buy him something from that recently opened shop I keep hearing about.
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>>152221398

Reinstall dominions after deleting the folder and everything inside.
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>>152238924
Speaking of shopping, how much do you take for a SDR ?
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>>152240272
5 blood slaves + 3 gems of any kind.(or 2 if you're an UW nation, or 1 if you're a special customer.)

...is what I've heard.
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>>152236946
With your reach you should really be trying to interfere with Sauromatia before they conquer us all.
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What bless does Sauro have? Asking for a friend.
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Are there any good guides to the late game out there?

I've only hit late game in blitzes before, and after a few hours of playing, everyone's too tired to do anything more than take thrones with doomstacks.
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>>152240976
Maybe your friend can ask himself. It would be good for his confidence.
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>>152242587
I'm a friend of the fist guy. So, what's Sauro's bless?
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>>152234634
I actually am trying them out now, just wanted to hear some opinions from people who aren't complete noobs like myself
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>>152242510
it depends

each metatype of nation plays differently, blood nations play nothing like astral late, and some, like Marveni and Man just don't play at all.
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>>152240976
>>152242587
>>152242662
He's at least Nature 4 and Astral 5.
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>>152242662
I could dig up a turn file and tell you but I literally cannot be fucked. Just fight them and find out yourself, given they're being advised by Cirno they'll probs be rainbow.
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Is there any counter to turn-1 RoS spam?
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>>152243236
The sword of being lucky.
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>>152243069
>Cirno and rainbows
Then it's probably something like this.
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>>152242920
I've noticed that Knights of Avalon are great for expansion against indies without mages. Like 5 knights can take on 50+ barbarians. Test it out in singleplayer.

Their HP and MR is shit though so don't try to use them to get thrones.
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>>152243340
So the counter to a strategy someone could use with just a few of the right mages is a unique sword you might not even be able to get at all.
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>>152243236
Protection items on commanders, high-prot troops. The battlefield-wide luck artifact sword helps, but doesn't fully counter it. Same with Gift of Health while on the defensive. If you have human mages in robes, you almost inevitably end up spending more gems on countering it then the cost of casting RoS and massed high-prot troops aren't an option for everyone.

Often the actual answer is "you don't" and it's quite possible the game comes down to working around it rather than countering it directly: exchanging provinces with raiders, assassinating enemy mages, triggering gem usage without armies present and trying to bait the enemy to engage your army while you have the defender's advantage etc.
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>>152243236

Turn0 shenanigans, mostly. So pretty much Luck sword or deploying sacred mages alongside your (N9/E9/Dx/B9) pretender so they're blessed when it hits.

Alternatively, ritual movement casters to bait gemuse (and/or drop your own battlefield-wide after tanking the RoS), which will be a separate battle before standard movement.

Or just armour on your casters. Although that one is expensive.
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>>152240774
Guess I'll have to pass then.

Speaking of RoS, can you forge some cheap helmets and hope to get a pass, assuming your mages are humans ?
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>>152243804
>>152243340
The Luck sword only works if it's a single cast. If it's RoS spam, it'll just absorb the first hit and the second/third/whatever will still wreck your mages.

Your only chance of beating RoS spam directly is to get up Army of Foo or Fog Warriors before the RoS comes, which is impossible if you're on the offensive.

Armoring your mages is never a real counter. At best it evens the playing field at a cost that's far greater than simply casting RoS, so it's a losing strategy unless you've got a good advantage elsewhere.

Trying to use magic phase movement thugs/SCs to trigger gem-use is your best bet, but this could also end up overly expensive if the enemy army has ways to deal with SCs and doesn't just rely on RoS alone.

Basically, the only real counters to a player who has the right mages to do RoS spam and who isn't an idiot, is either to kill him before he gets his RoS spam online, or to become much stronger than him so you can just keep throwing gold/gems at him and simply overwhelm him.
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>>152244089
To my understanding RoS doesn't target heads specifically but, same as most other attacks, has 20% chance of targeting the head. General protection would be more effective.
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>>152244153
>it'll just absorb the first hit
You're misremembering, anon. Sword autocasts WotF, which gives Luck, not Twist Fate. It's not a hard counter, obviously, but it's not like it doesn't work on subsequent casts at all. It's still 75% chance to not die.
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>>152244198
Oh I thought it was the head since it rains. Stones.
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>>152244089
>>152244198
Actually, someone tested that.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/259060/discussions/0/359543951729810849/?ctp=2#c360670708777551645
RoS is AoE damage, which means it doesn't target any specific body part. You should give your mages some armour instead of a helmet, since it boosts their overall protection much more.
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>>152244089
i've tested it once: armor >>>>>> helmets against RoS.
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>>152244659
>>152245378
Fuck this spell, real men cast earthquakes
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>>152244659
>Actually, someone tested that.
It doesn't even need to be specifically tested. AOE damage targets average protection consistently across all spells.
>>152244153
The luck sword doesn't absorb the first hit, it absorbs 75% of all deaths. Which can be enough to get the buffs up or still end up with your troops having morale rout even after first hit.
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>>152231973
The proposal allows double bats and MA Caelum.
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>>152246802
>Xibalba mixing with Caelum
>one prefers heat and uses cold-blooded troops
>the other prefers cold and uses ice armor troops
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>>152246802

Bats and Caelum don't play nicely together. Caelum wants cold 3. Bats want heat 3.
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>>152246696
Giving your mages a 75% chance to survive still isn't great if RoS is being spammed instead of just being cast once.
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>>152247145

It's at least 75% better than the alternative!
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>>152247063
>>152247112
>wants cold 3
Caelum likes cold 3 but there's no super strong reason to go for it unlike Atlantis. Your troops are still shit, you are a raid and magic heavy nation, fog warriors and not ice guard is what keeps your troops alive through midgame.
If Caelum was hard tied to cold 3 it would fall apart any time it needs to invade anyone heat positive but it's not the case.
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>>152221398
Can you try sending your turn to someone else, who's not in that particular game, and see if it works for them?
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>>152246802
there is absolutely no reason to have 2 Xibalba in a team: you can donate all your lands to xibalba anyway ( it just requires xibalba to have a commander in each province, thankfully xibalba is the quickest nation after pangea that can put a a commander in 20 provinces). or just donate gold to them early and later the land required for bloodhunting.

it's much much better to pick fucking TC and summon sacred shit with all the gems xibalba can't use effectively.National summons are a valuable asset in a disciple game.
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>>152248394
EA Xibalba is best xibalba and other China's dont get the same summons or basic sacreds as EA.
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>>152247868
There's the heavy income penalty from heat and increased encumbrance on your mages to worry about.
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>>152248468
Oh wait, for some reason I though you gotta pick one nation from each era.

I'm being weird, i think i've started that one set of 3 different era games sum1 run.

>>152248554
You could get perfect money scales for two xibalbas (instead of taking them with some heat 3 set up where they lose 10% each) at the price of imperfect scales for another nation + lower priced dump points.
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>>152248674
>i think i've started that
I've started to think about
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>>152248674

Xibalba REALLY needs at least Heat 2, though. All of it's stuff is cold blooded, which is completely crippling. Heat 2 means you avoid "but I can't fight in the winter" issues that you get with anything lower. (Although H1 is at least only 1/12 turns per year being fucked rather than the 3/12 neutral temp gets you)
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>when you accidentally yourself
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>>152242662
Sauro has an N9S6E4 bless iirc. Might have been E6.
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>>152236946
Ugh, your hours seem to line up with around 5:00 AM for me. I don't have work tomorrow, so I might be able to be around tonight so we can chat about things.
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>>152248674
Or you could just pick a nation that doesn't need Cold scales.

Caelum isn't even that great anyway, and if you give them a massive income penalty they only become worse. It's not like you need more fliers when you've already got 2 Xibalbas.
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EA Xibalba, LA Xibalba, LA Ragha.
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>>152251392
And if two nations per Age? And what would be the chance that the random choose EA and LA Xib in the same time.
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>>152251392
Actually, I'd be interested in seeing something like Xibalba as the Pretender with Ermor and Lemuria for Disciples.
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http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=GulagOfFondMemories
6 players, LA, vanilla.
Bogarus still not taken.
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>>152252573
Ermor and lemuria make awful disciples. Even not summod ermor. Besides temperature neutral nations make better pretenders.
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>>152252780
>Ermor and lemuria make awful disciples.
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>>152252835
Ermor at least has reanimate, so they're kind of like a really shitty Scelaria as a disciple.
Lemuria is just . . . a pick you take when your only other option is LA Pythium.
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>>152252995
>>152252780
Ermor and Lemuria make good disciples since they don't rely on income. And as a disciple, they don't get freespawn so they don't even need land. So basically they can funnel everything they have straight into Xibalba who now grows three times as fast as a result, and get straight up paid in gems. Sure, Ermor and Lemuria would miss out on their freespawn, but freespawn is little more than chaff and not their main strength. Imagine a Xibalba three times as big as a regular Xibalba, with an army of undead (and immortal) thugs and mages to support them.

Neither Ermor nor Lemuria give a shit about temperature, so it doesn't matter what the temperature of the pretender is at all. There isn't a single good reason to go with neutral temperature.

Before tribless Ermor became popular, they were used as a disciple quite often.
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>>152252780
>>152253318
ermor and lemuria would get next to no expansion parties since they can't recruit or get freespawns. and their capital has LESS income than other nations.
Eventually the death gem income and their unique summons can be interesting but funneling their mediocre cap gold into xibalba won't make up fast enough for their mediocre expansions and they wil end up with less lands.

i could tolerate non summod ermor disciple + EA xibalba + another normal nation, but both ermor and lemuria sounds retarded.

unless you find a way to expand very early with their death gem summons
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Okay, from the evening of the 25th of August till the 1st of September I won't have computer access. Now, here's the list of games I'm in and need extensions for:
ErrmorOp
KingOfBullies
NoBullying
WeWuzPantokrators
FistfullofDeathgems
Europa
Der_Gotter
MemeOfTheAges
AllMAgamesarememgames
ScrubGen
FattenedCalf
VirginDisciples
PeaceAndHarmony
Memegeddon

I'm sorry for this guys
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>>152253756
Dammit Lambert.
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>>152248674
>the price of imperfect scales for another nation
H3 on a C3 nation is a 30% income penalty. Even with every other money scale at max (unlikely if you're taking a decent bless for the bats) you'd be at a major income disadvantage.

That's pretty far past imperfect and nearing quadbless levels of bad scales.

>>152253613
>unless you find a way to expand very early with their death gem summons
Lemuria can do it, from what I've heard. Ethereal, fear, and decent prot make for a pretty good thug even without gear.

I'm not sure if Ermor can, but I wouldn't be surprised.
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>>152253907
>H3 on a C3 nation is a 30% income penalty.
Not to mention a huge fatigue penalty on your mages.
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>>152253756
>implying you're relevant in any of them
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>>152253756
>1 week extension

We should have a rule that if you are absent for more than 2 turns in a row and you know beforehand, it's up to you to find a suitable temporary sub for your games, failure to do so results in stales.
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>>152253756
Fuck I should take a vacation too.
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>>152253756

Go fuck yourself.
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>>152254605
Fuck off Modo.
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>>152253756
>i am sorry guys i am gonna have a 1 week vacation inside the magma chamber of a Volcano in Ghambia, i asked for it, but they have no wifi in there, so i am asking for an extension in 14 games, which, BTW, include ALL the games you, worthless peasant who can't afford luxury vacations and was hoping to play some videogames during summer, are in.
>have fun GGTHXBYE
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>>152254831
Actually it's a scottish island, but as >>152254281
said I will try to find some subs if people prefer.
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>>152253756
I will try to find subs for you in Der-Gotter and AllMAgamesarememegames. I'm not extending those for 1 week, but may do it for a day to get the sub for a week.
Memegeddon is still having . . . issues. And a week extension is much more palpable considering the base turn timer is 72 hours atm anyway.
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>>152255413
>implying a neet who can play 14 games at the same time would ever go on vacation
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I cannot help but notice that both Ulm and Bandar have two capitals already. I know all of you are busy killing Ermor and all. Just food for thought.
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>>152255413
Memegeddon can safely die. It's not like it isn't already decided anyway.
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>>152253756

If you're in Scrubgen, go post it in the Steam thread, otherwise you get no extension.
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>>152255824
And Vanarus almost killed Caelum. Cheers for all the successful nations!
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>>152255824

Ulm has two caps? Was he the one that ate TC?
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>>152253756
>>152256072
Yeah for a week-long extension I'd rather have confirmation, especially since you all already posted there for the nations anyway. If you can find a sub that'd be ideal, 1 week is a fucking long time, especially when you already knew you were going.

Will also prove it's an actual player in those games rather than someone being a memester.
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>>152255824
>pretending to be me
Wow, anon, you're such a great schemer.
Seriously though: before trying to impersonate someone, look up the name they use in the thread.
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>>152256054
It LIVES. Probably. Llamabeast seems to have managed to fix the problem though.
Everyone may continue with their bat loving as normal.
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>>152256523
>>152256089
Get in chat if possible m8s
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>>152242662
>Not w9
wew lad
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>>152255824
>>152256342
>>152256523
Yes Ulm was the one that ate TC and currently has two caps. He seems to be at war with Aspho right now.
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>>152256668
I'm in there, m8.
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>>152256342
Yup. I was totally outplayed. It was my first game tho, but im still happy with it. My next MP going much better thanks to that game
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Seems like this turn is non-corrupted and fine. Hope this shit doesn't happen again.
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>>152253907
>H3 on a C3 nation is a 30% income penalty
Justify H3.
H1 is good enough and that's 20%. H2 if you really want it to be perfect for bats which isn't even that important once ozelotl production gears up and given that bats cant handle prolonged combat early game with or without cold blooded penalties.
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>>152257891
Hey Ys, you told me not to worry about your troop movements and that you'd do a thing in 2-3 turns, and you didn't do that thing.

I am getting slightly paranoid you might be up to something.
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>>152257987
>he doesn't know that cold blooded suffers even in neutral scales.
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>>152258209
>trusting an elf

Enjoy your death.
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>>152258209

Well last turn I staled due to the error, or it would've happened already ;)

(I think the thing you're talking about already happened and you don't have scouts nearby)
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>tfw you are at war with 2 players and you suspect 3 more of being about to attack you
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>>152258792
#SpookLife
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>>152258849
But I'm not spooky at all
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>>152258346
When was the last time you played as bats and actually cared for neutral temp penalty in the provinces you fought? 1 fatigue on troops that cant take a hit doesn't matter.
Bats early on do not rely on prolonged combat and usually don't go for c'tisian styled slow battlefield grind tactics either.
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>>152258792
I know that feel.

>fighting 2 players and barely winning
>suddenly all your other neighbours go "oh shit he can beat 2 guys on his own let's gangbang him before he gets 2stronk!"
>lose the game like 5 turns later
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>>152256668
>>152257446
Okay, I am there now. Got disconnected, it seems.
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>>152257987
Heat 3 has less of an income penalty than H1, and more points than H2. H1 can have you dip into cold in winter, and leaves you more vulnerable to wolven winter.

Even if you disregard that and assume you 'only' have H1, that's still a massive 20% penalty. It's basically Turmoil 3 plus Sloth 3 before you take other scales into account. Taking another nation which likes hot (or at least neutral) temperature scales would give you much more income. Caelum doesn't bring enough to the table to justify taking it with that penalty, especially when you already have plenty of bats to flying raid everything.
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>>152259287
>Heat 3 has less of an income penalty than H1
Less of an income penalty for bats, I should say.

I also forgot to mention that cold blooded really hurts your mages, which are actually valuable in a sustained fight (unlike your non-summoned troops).
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>>152258792
>see guy at war with multiple other players
>attack him even though I didn't intend to before

MOM'S GONNA FREAK
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>>152259287
Yeah, if you're going with LMAO 2BATS, I'd rather take something beefier as the third option than just getting more fliers.

If you're going with one nation per era and you're taking EA and LA Xibalba, there are several MA nations who would love the easy blood access that Xibalba provides, like Ashdod, Mictlan or Bandar Log. And as it happens, all of those like Heat scales.
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>>152259784
>Not posting his cap circle of imminent death
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>>152253756
You absolute cunt.
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>massive anti-bat alliance
>everyone cooperating against the most powerful nation in the game
>Norrping decides to be a dumb cunt and starts raiding people who are fighting bats
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Just in case the other guy's extension isn't going to be granted, I need a 36 hour extension on the current turn, just so I can get home from my trip.
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>>152260461
Goblins have always been the minions and henchmen of the BBEG
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>>152260024
There's me on one side, Greeks on the other and bats are helping us too.
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http://lparchive.org/Dominions-3-(by-Lilli-et-al)/Update%20196/
How do you counter this tactic?
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>>152261292
Hilariously expensive to pull off (you only get one go at it before your mages inevitably get eaten by horrors). It's a good FUCK YOU tactic but there's usually more efficient ways to use mages. Although, looking at the sheer amount of crap that's being thrown about in that battle, a hellpower reverse communion seems like acceptable losses at that point.
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>>152261292
By playing Dominions 4. Reverse communions are gone. Lilli's LP is still a very good read though.
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Ys can you come to the steam chat..
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>>152225410
>>152225297
Yup so I've given up till a new version comes out
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>>152262474
Im away for a couple of hours
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>>152261292
Given the amount of shit that's being thrown into that fight? The only winning move is not to play.

I move my armies away from it, cast AC, and then spam Send Horror at whichever province the giant deathstack is in. If I absolutely have to end it with a punch up, I'd go for attrition tactics. Blood mages casting Infernal Prison and Claws of Kokytos. Vampires casting Disintegrate.

That said, Reverse Communions no longer function in Dom4.
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guys we seriously gotta think about what will be the teams for /v/anheim and /domg/.
so far it seems only cirno and a bunch of new players have proposed themselves.

We have no major good players left because they all seems to be playing for their small forums rather than for us, so if you have more than 15 PBEM played and you don't feel like a walking disaster in Dom4 you might be one of our best choices.Raise your voice.

and no: sending a memeteam of higly inexperienced players led by Cirno's sauromatia is not a good meme option because chances are some small forums will have strategies that are more stale and worst that what we will field; if we want to meme we'd rather meme with good players running something memetastic. Getting good and putting up a good fight would be a better idea.You don't want those assholes from invisonfree to laugh at us until the release of dominion 5, do you?
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>>152265509

>sending a memeteam of higly inexperienced players led by Cirno's sauromatia is not a good meme

Hey, it worked for /v/. Never forget.
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>>152265509
Is Sy/Sum1/cool not happening?
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>>152254931

Fucking yes. Get a sub lined up. You've the better part of a week, so shouldn't be a major issue to find someone and brief them in that time.

If you're Caelum I am going to be very annoyed.
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Question is, do you praise Kek?
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>>152265878
everyday on my 9gag page
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>>152265509
I have over 30 confirmed PBEMs and I haven't won a single one, or gotten close to, and I usually lose the moment someone attacks me. I also have anger issues and will go AI as soon as I lose any decent-sized battles, on top of that I am way too autistic so I'd never be able to work in a team and would likely get diarrhea from the stress of having to coordinate with the rest of the team.

That good?
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>>152265509

I guess I could put my name forward? It's been a while, but I've played a fair bit. Organized/hosted a couple of disciples games and participated in the WorldWarDongs and WorldWarEnd, back in the day.
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>>152265509
Honestly I think the best overall plan is to go full Miracle on Ice; get three players that aren't the best in our community but that can communicate, work together, and learn enough to actually be good.

Unfortunately, all or most of the people I've met and played Dominions with through /domg/ games are playing for other communities, won't represent /domg/, or are shits that don't really qualify.
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>>152266159
p-probably no. it's going to be an enraging and long game and a team need reliable people, no offense intended.

>>152266258
if "i've played a fair bit" is more than 15 PBEM total and you are not a "first war i go AI" kind of person then you might be among the best that proposed themselves so far since almost no one proposed himself.
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>Is Sy/Sum1/cool not happening?
What about this team?
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>>152268395
That's happening, and so is Cirno/Kami/Eld.
Because.
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One more for Ginugagap boys

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Ginnungagap
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>>152273570
>tiny map
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>>152273570
Aw, I was really hoping the game would start tomorrow so I could test out magic enchanted and see if my build is a good one.
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>>152273570
Don't fucking listen to >>152273908 just start as soon as we get 12.
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>>152273570
>75 magic site
>Lanka
>Hinnom
>picking bloodhunting nations with those settings
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>>152274053
>>152273908

I'm not the admin boys, just a player that wants it to start right fucking now
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>>152274237
>he hasn't read the manual

Can someone post laughingelves.jpg for me? It would've gone well with this.
>>
How is LA Midgard?
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>>152265619
Are you talking about tribes?
>>
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Magicka

New MA game with site occurrence jacked to maximum.

Map is fantomagoria and the mod is worthy heroes 5.5NN.

12 slots total, 8 people in

5 level 3 thrones, 3 to win.
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>>152274884
Bretty good, blood, t-strikes, stellar cascades, RoS in every province.
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>>152274716
Spoonfeed me

J-just the page number will be fine
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>>152275409
Blood slaves acquired scales with site frequency.
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>>152274716
>>152275409
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>>152274237
>>152274716
>>152275409
>>152275543
999 slave astral corruption coming right up.
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WHAT IS

OBJECTIVELY

UNIRONICALLY

THE SINGLE

VERY BEST

RECRUITABLE MAGE

IN THE ENTIRE GAME

OF DOMINOS PIZZA?
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>>152276019
The large three topping for $8.75 deal
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>>152276019
IT DEPENDS
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>>152276019
Sages

t. Ermor
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How do you make MA Atlantis work.
>>
>>152276295
Productivity 3
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>>152276019
Master Smith, Sages, Loremasters, Adepts of the Iron Order, or Onaquis depending on context
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>>152276295
Play on a map with lots of water.
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>>152275634
I was thinking of the two girls laughing, one of them covering their face, but this works too. Thank you.
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>>152276340
>Master Smith
>Good

?
>>
Arco, how's the price I offered for those water provinces?
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>>152276474
r u knew?
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>>152276019
EA this one

LA Magister Arcanes
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>>152276474
>Incredibly efficient Evo mage with huge forge bonus
>Not Good

?
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>>152276924
>no benis

Ruined.
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>>152276924
EA Panii aren't even that good, even within the context of their nation. MA Pan is much better because there's many more uses for massed Earth mages, especially after the Reveler nerf (you'd really rather have buffs up on turn 1 without having to cast Earthpower first)
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>>152277181
>EA Pan isn't good
>E3
>N5
>B3
>Not good
>>
>>152276019
Nagarishi.

Too bad they belong to a shit nation.
>>
>>152277450
what do naga do good?
>>
>>152277450
>mind duel
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>>152277410
You have like a 1% chance to ever see E3 on an EA Pan. Meanwhile MA Pan has a 50% of E3 with a tiny chance of E4 and it can reach just as high N as EA.

The only thing MA does worse is blood. but that's why you have Pandemoniacs who are better than EA Pans at blood anyway.
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>>152276019

Brides in waiting are all excellent no matter their random.

MA Abysia warlocks are 6 path mages that are not StR but unfortunately mainly SB.

Whatever cheap research mage, bonus points if its B or S.
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>>152277587
>mind dueling a nation whose mage corps will be like 90% Yogis and Gurus
Picture related.

>>152277579
Out of the box, they have a chance to reach W5, E5, S3 or N3.

S3 and N3 aren't that great, especially since Patala already has plenty of S and N, but W5 and E5 are both incredibly useful.

Plus, you get a couple of decent crosspath options.
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>>152277881
>MA Abysia Warlocks
>6 path mages

??????
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>>152278246
You're pretty shit at math, aren't you?
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>>152278396
I think he meant 5+1 = 6 in terms of total magic levels rather than paths
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>>152278396
The only have two paths natively, and have a chance of getting up to four paths.
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>>152278246

Three in B and two in S guaranteed is 5 and one random is 6???
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>>152278539
Three LEVELS in the PATH blood and two LEVELS in the PATH astral and one guaranteed LEVEL in a PATH which can be either astral, blood, fire or earth makes for three PATHS maximum.
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>>152276019
galderman
>>
>>152278678
Actually four max, if the 10% random kicks in right.
>>
>>152277410
N5/E3/B3 are with ~3.3% (N) or ~1.6% random (EB) and both N5 and B3 really don't do much that N4 and B2 do anyway (if you're outrageously lucky, you could cast Mother Oak straight away instead of taking a detour for thistle mace, but that's about it). Blood isn't a good path on them in general because Panii are obscenely expensive as blood hunters (even if you reduce upkeep with Transformation) and N doesn't offer any good crosspath options, while blood access cranks up their price a lot. So in practise you have 50% N4 casters (E1 is almost worthless) and 50% E2 casters (you have enough N4s to fill pretty much any potential niche you could come up with so the earth Panii aren't going to be using their nature prowess).

Don't get me wrong, EA Panii are good, but only because they are in a nation that can take advantage of their buffing potential (otherwise they'd be outrageously expensive for what they can accomplish on and off the battlefield) and unlike MA Panii, you pay a lot of extra for options you rarely get to use (MA Pan is cheaper while having better paths).
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>>152243354
Boy that build is oldhat.
This is the new Sauro meta.
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>>152278786
>He thinks the blood is for hunting

It's
For
CUMMUNIUNS
Fucknugget
>>
>>152281484
Oh boy, I sure can't wait to use two additional expensive StR mages to increase my E magic by one!
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>>152281484
And what are you going to do with Panii in communions (presumably as both masters and slaves in turbocommunions)? Never mind that it's a very expensive setup, what do you even plan on casting with them?
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>>152281971
>>152282245
You CUM ONION with NON-NATIVE ASTRAL TROOPS

Wew are you lads new or something

Like if you can't get a single astral recruit in any of your lands then you are shit at domino's
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>>152282347
Okay. and then what do you cast with them? An E2 with boots and earthpower has E4 in practice, which lets you cast weapons of sharpness or even army of x with an extra gem. Anything else (marble warriors, SoG, LoS, Maws) is available to that same E2 without boots (or without earthpower, if you want round 1 casts) meaning you can cast all the E spells you want.

Nature spells are even more readily available. Strength of Gaia gives you ubiquitous N5 (N6 with a thistle mace). Your storms of thorns or whatever already are high powered, and the scaling N isn't a huge deal for most other spells you want to cast.

Unless you're simply spamming out maws or want to use earth elementals in place of buffed revellers, you're also not particularly fatigue locked, since panii trivially get off all the buffs and battlefield spells you need to cast and any evo you might want to use has a low fatigue cost.
>>
>>152282347
>You CUM ONION
Can we have this guy as the official /domg/ representative to other communities please?
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>>152283056
>These spells which each cost a turn to cast allow me to do things on turn 5 you can do on turn 2!!!!!!!

WOW AWESOME YOU CAN CAST ONE (1) ((I)) (((UNO))) ((((EIN)))) ((((((((1)))))))) SCRIPTED SPELL FOR THE ENTIRE FIGHT AFTER YOUR ENEMY HAS ALREADY BUTTRAPED YOUR ENTIRE UNBUFFED ARMY WITH ACTUAL MAGIC

W E W I'M GONNA GO CUM ON YOUR MOM AFTER I CUM ON YOUR ONION AND DESTROY YOU IN EATING FUCKING DOMINO'S PIZZA

YOU ARE FUCKING DEMOLISHED KIDDO
>>
>>152283463
Turn 1: Earthpower
Turn 2: Spells

vs

Turn 1: Sabbath Master
Turn 2: Spells

u w0t
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>>152283056
Never mind that casting Sabbath Master is 1/5ths of script slots used, delays your spells by an extra turn (at that point now undisciplined revelers are certainly out of buff range), this exposes you to mages going offscript if anything happens to blood slaves, B1s in particular gain a lot of fatigue from casting Sabbath Master so communion might even decrease their endurance, indie mages you might recruit likely are less mobile than the rest of your army and you're quite likely to kill the communion slaves because astral indies don't have turbocommunion potential or appropriate paths.

Certainly, I've put Panii as both communion slaves and masters in the past but as far as I see it, that's a very very niche thing.
>>
>>152283601
>TURN 1 EARTHPOWER
>YOU NOW HAVE ONE EXTRA EARTH CONGRATULATIONS YOU COCKSUCKING KEKOLD

>TURN ONE SABBATH MASTER
>YOU NOW HAVE 4 EXTRA IN ALL FUCKING PATHS AND YOU GET INFINITE FUCKING FATIGUE FOR FREE SO YOU CAN FUCK ALL THE "TURN ONE EARTHPOWER ;_____;" BITCHES THAT YOUR SUPERSIZED CUM ONION MASTER DICK CAN HANDLE

W
E
W
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>>152283819
What spells are you casting with sabbath master that you can't cast after either e-power or gaia?
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>>152276924
FACT: Pan's are betas and Panic Apostates are alphas
>>
Who the fuck is Pan, anyway?
>>
>>152284147
I am.
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>>152284241
Fuck you
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>>152284147
Some guy. He initially made a fool of himself by surrendering to EA R'lyeh as Pan in one of the big meme games, so he's been called Pan since then. Also known as "The Undertale Shitter"
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>>152284272
What's the deal with the '...was right", meme, then?
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>>152284271
Fuck you!
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>>152284360
He made it and spams it. No one else posts them
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>>152283939
HOLY
FUCKING
SHIT

YOU ARE
TERRIBLE

AT THIS VIDEO GAME

I AM GOING
TO FUCKING
SUMMON

ASS RAPERS

TO FUCK. YOUR MOM
>>
>>152283819
Then all the slaves die to turn0 RoS.
>>
>>152284360
He's the ony one who posts that, claiming that he was right to give up and throw the game when everyone else was giving him shit about it.
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>>152284147
t. Pan

>>152284241
t. Pan

>>152284272
t. Pan

>>152284360
t. Pan

>>152284435
t. Pan

>>152284563
t. Pan
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>>152284450
Those are mostly rituals. Literally none of the combat spells in E or N are inaccessible to a pan with a booster item and spell.
>>
>>152284435
>>152284563
Rip. Was' hoping there was a good story behind it, not just autism.
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>>152284450
>communions
>to cast rituals

Stop memeing.
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>>152284705
>>
>>152284705
Sorry. We're autism general.
>>
>>152284852
>That dragon got me good, guys.
What was it a circus act or something?
>>
Is there any reason to build forts as asphodel if you're not in need of defense?
They don't get bonuses like extra/better freespawns on forts like lemuria or ermor do they?
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Um hello why are you guys shitposting about me (objectively the single greatest dominions player in this thread)?
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>>152285059
hiring mages?
>>
>>152285097
Shut up Rejakor.

Rejakor is Pan? That would be hilarious.
>>
>>152285397
He is not. Rejakor doesn't set himself AI. He just stales.
>>
>>152285124
I did have that in mind but I usually just summon the bulk of my mages since the popkill means my income can't support mass recruitment of mages that require upkeep, especially if I want to be recruiting more black centaurs and building more temples.
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>>152285397
Who is Rejakor and why should I care about some inferior player?

t. the REAL Pan (please standing up)
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>>152285573
>mages that require upkeep
Transformation.
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>>152285573
Asphodel expands EXTREMELY quickly, its popkill is lower than Ermor's, and it tends towards G3 for the freespawn. As a result, gold is relevant for longer and it can recruit more mages. The go-to strat is to use panic apostates and then have them cast transform to remove their income (and occasionally get a good thug chassis).
>>
>>152285763
>>152285732
>Transformation removes upkeep
I did not know this, thanks.
>>
>>152285635
>t. the REAL Pan
I can tell you're not him, because you're not spamming Undertale images.
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>>152285872
Usually. There's like one or two that still have upkeep
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>>152285902
You do not know how deep the rabbit hole goes, mortal. Turn back now and BOW before your Pantokratr.
>>
>>152285942
Does that mean it's also possible for 0 upkeep units to gain an upkeep cost upon transforming?
>>
>start in such a position that any conquest outside of the capring will require me taking a throne

FUCK, why me?
>>
>>152286031
In theory, yes.
>>
>>152285763
Is Asphodel popkill actually much lower or does it just seem that way because they usually take growth 3 which offsets it a bit? Or maybe a combination of both I guess, I know very little about the numbers involved.
Might go test it myself actually if you guys don't know but I get the feeling you do.
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>>152286031
yes
>>
Now that was some unfortunate decision making, i was supposed to have all the infos and fucked up my scouting.
i should also learn to keep a game jouurnal. i could have avoided that.
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>>152286384
It's a bit of both.
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>>152286384
It is lower then Ermor´s but not enough to be mitigated by G3
>>
If I play Lemuria in mp should I just expect everyone to gang up on me even if I mostly keep to myself and don't rush BOT?
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>>152288246
ofc
>>
>>152288246
If you're a Lemuria who plays nice and keeps the cancer to a minimum, other players will gang up on you and kick you from the game.

If you're a Lemuria who rushes BoT and spams cancer while hiding in his many forts, other players will ignore you for most of the game and then simply go AI because you're "making the game less fun".

See also: R'lyeh.
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>>152288901
Thanks for the advice, I guess I need to do a complete 180 on my Lemuria strategy. Goodbye diplomacy.
>>
>>152289441
For whatever it's worth I've had about 50% success rate on playing nice guy Ermor which is about a step up in cancer from Lemuria.
>>
IT BEGINS
>>
>read LP of Dom 3
>everyone within is said to be a pro player
>everyone within immediately starts overtaxing and blood sacrificing their nations

Is every god a dick or is it just necessary to survive?
>>
>>152289657
IT DEPENDS

But yeah overtaxing was a big thing in Dom3. I'm happy tax doesn't exist in Dom4 anymore.
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He's kinda right about Cirno.

Sy, Sum1won coolstory pls
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>>152290042
Literally the only reason I give a fuck about this game is that it's a highly fertile breeding ground for drama.

I don't like /domg/ as a whole being represented by a couple of random shitters, but given the circumstances, that's a price I'd gladly pay,
>>
>>152287125
What happened?
>>
>>152290415
Pretty sure sum1 was there like 20 years ago when dom2 was still a thing. And dom3mods shitters can't play anyway.
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>>152290042
You doubt my genius?
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>>152290590
If we sent Sy, sum1, and cool, then technically everyone on the domg team would also be a dom3mods player
>>
>>152290776
>>152290590
/domg/ is really just dom3mods+/v/anheim
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>>152290776
I literally have only 9 posts on dom3mods.
>>
Imagine being a Dom4 world champion.

I wonder if Rejakor is gonna participate.
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>>152291131
I am already the Dominions 4 world champion. Why even bother making this a competition when I already won ages ago?

t. Pan
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>>152275170
Never done a multiplayer game. How often do we do turns? And how do I install a mod to make it work for multiplayer?
>>
>>152293238
24 hour window unless people get shirty and need more time.

Do to users/<username>/appdata/roaming/dominions

And put mods into the "mod" folder, make it if it doesn't exist, ditto for maps. App data may be a hidden folder.
>>
>>152293238
PASTEBIN
>>
>>152293238
>How often do we do turns

almost universally every 24 hours, bumped to 36 and eventually 48 if the player request as it gets to lategame

>And how do I install a mod to make it work for multiplayer?

click on the mod link from llamaserver or google the exact mod name to download it. then open dominions 4, click on Game Tool, then Open User Data Directory. it should open a windows folder. inside it there should be a "mod" folder ( if not create it). place the downloaded files in the mod folder ( the files might have to be unzipped and the end result is that there should be a modname.DM file in the mod folder, plus eventual subfolders that contains sprites the mod uses).

On linux the mod folder can't be found that way and should just be in the regular game installation folder.
>>
>>152294018
>>152293812
>>152293618
Thanks
>>
>>152292409
>Tumblrtale

End yourself
>>
>>152292409
You should've died from your cancer.
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>>152292409
Fuck that made me cringe
Why do you do this to me
>>
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>>152292409
MOMMIE
>>
i have no idea what to do in this cat game

there's too many gems and options and shit given to me.

this is going to be a clusterfuckj
>>
Ok, who of you faggots are quadbless mictlan in the /tg/ Blood bowl secret league?
>>
>>152299104
>/tg/ Blood bowl secret league
What?
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>>152299458

/tg/ runs leagues of Blood Bowl on the FUMMBL client. Between seasons we play secret leagues, which is just a dumb league with non-standard overpowered races.

Someone named their team Quadbless Mictlan
>>
>>152299691
Damn, I haven't even thought about FUMBBL in ages. That brings back memories.


I just found out my old account even still exists. I used to be pretty decent.

https://fumbbl.com/~Aargh
>>
>>152300317
Oh Jesus, I just noticed that they disabled HTML styling of team pages apparently, and now my team pages look like absolute garbage.
>>
>>152274894

Yes, he's talking about Ascend. A glorious time indeed.
>>
>Take sloth 2 pretender
>Get a 2 land connection start with one being a throne
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>WeWuzPantokratorz
>turn 15
>0 stales
>>
>>152303272
Wait a few turns for Foul Air to happen.
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>Haven't played Dom4 in like a year
>Launch it
>Hear the music
>I am home again

I forgot how to play this motherfucker, Kailasa to get used to Communions with a decent bless sound like a good idea to git gud again?
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Time to play Guess How Much PD!
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>>152303663
>tfw I turned off the music about a week after I first played the game and haven't turned it off since

I honestly don't even remember what it was like.
>>
>>152303883
SANTA MARIA STRELA DO DIA
>>
>>152303795
12
>>
>>152303795
3
>>
>>152303795
1.
>>
>>152303795
6
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>>152304015
A winner is you.

The Mound King managed to get the killing blow while at 1 hp left.
>>
Enjoy your incredibly horrormarked god, Arco.

I am really not sure why you thought this was a good plan.
>>
>>152284272
>entire world's pop killed by genocide spam
>astral corruption
>utterdark

That was a fun game desu
>>
>>152304367
>71 tiger riders
good golly miss molly
w9?
>>
>>152304418
meant to quote >>152304160
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Ooh, can I play this.

Hey guys, guess the PD.

Also, TNN, while I understand raping Fomoria is fun and all, FIGHT ME. Leave my friends alone.
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Not ded
>>
>>152304418
>>152304540

Nope. Also went White Bull here. Mostly because it's ridiculously cheap and Bandar has sacred everything.

Honestly, I do outweigh his army there by a considerable margin, so I'm not exactly demonstrating a profound mastery of scripting here. But damn if the 5+ turns of every Communion Master in my army finishing their script and repeatedly Horror Marking his god, followed by it being eaten by tigers, does not make it worth it.
>>
How do you use asphodel mages?

I can expand very well with black centaurs but after that is over all I have is some nature mages with relatively weak death.

I can cast big death spells with using a lot of deaths gems or death gems + boosters but nature seem quite useless in combat.

What even is there? Polymorph? sleep cloud? mass protection?
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>>152304621
1pd.gif?
>>
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>>152306072
>>
>>152305514
Spam skeletons, cast relief/mass protection/serpents blessing/foul vapors/quagmire/darkness
You don't need that many big nature mages but more death mages are always handy.
Ultimately Asphodel is between Pan and Ermor and they can't really do troop buffing or mass death magic cancer that well.
>>
>>152305514
Nature has some ok buffs like mass protection, plus you can use stuff like Relief and Foul Vapors which are decent in large fights, but it's generally not very good in combat. Sleep Cloud and Storm of Thorns are your best bets for offensive spells, but they're usually not that great.

Death is better. Still not a brilliant combat path, but better than nature anyway. You've got Darkness and Rigor Mortis to support your plant zombies, Horde of Skeletons to drag out the fight (to give Rigor Mortis and Foul Vapours more time to do their thing), and the Evocation school has a couple of decent options for when you want something more blasty.

For everything else, you'll pretty much have to rely on indies or summons. Lamia Queen can get you into Blood, Faerie Court gets you into Air, Spectre can get you into Astral and Earth, etc. In lategame, Asphodel is a decent candidate for a Tart Factory since they're focused on N and D (for GoH and Tarts, respectively), which will give you full diversity anyway.
>>
>tfw PBEM manager doesnt work for me
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting some crazy good shit!
>>
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Okay squids, mind explaining what the fuck you are attacking me for or should I just go ahead and wipe your dominion off the face of the earth?
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>>152309656
That void gate made them go mad. Put them out of their misery.
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>>152310029
They think they can do shit like that and get away with it just because they're underwater.

But I don't play softball with faggots.
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>>152303663
Consider playing Sauro :^)
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New Bread where?
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>>152311493
After I overcast burden of time
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Oh, and for Agartha, I should be on later tonight so as to actually catch you.

Would also love to make contact with Yomi, Ur, and Ulm at some point.
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>>152314109
Squids, you seem wise. I accidentally killed a whole bunch of C'tis stuff when we both tried to attack Machaka at the same time. What happens now? Can C'tis and I still be friends?
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>>152314297
As long as you make sure to talk about any issues you may have.
Just try not to both die to the firemen though. Would be a shame to lose such upstanding friends.
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Is it necessary or recommended to create a prophet on the first turn?
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>>152314727
I'm gonna pull back and rally together a big army but purely for defence. At the same time I'm going to explain what happened and see if Africa can avoid more internal fighting.

Could you open the next thread with more graphs? Graphs are fun.
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>>152314816
yes
git gud
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>>152314816
I usually wait if I'm playing a nation with a second school of holy spell to use. Otherwise yes.
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>>152314816
Some people like to make a paladin prophet as Marignon. Also if you make a High Inquisitor your prophet you get H4.
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>>152314816
T1 prophet scoot is only way
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>>152314816
H3 can have a pretty major impact in expansion. Sermon of Courage will help prevent low-morale troops from routing and Smite will usually take out a handful of enemy troops over the course of the fight.

If you have a good bless, you can use your starting commander to expand (rather than having to recruit a priest) if you make him a prophet.

It also gives an extra temple effectively, which increases your dominion spread quite a bit early on.

>>152315298
>not using your scout to check provinces for exact enemy compositions and prophetizing your commander
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>>152315282
>>152315207
See this is what I was thinking,

but then I read this fucking post
>>152314996
and sent in my damn turn :(

I'm a total newbie
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>>152315767
Here's a helpful tip for the new.

You can resend your turn with modifications and overwrite your old one.
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>>152315767
You can redo turns if you send the turn file in again after making changes
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>>152304157
Manly.
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>>152315856
>>152315852
nice ty
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Is recruiting Ichtyd Shamans until I get one with the 10% chance of 1N a worthwhile endeavour? They're pretty worthless if they don't have it.
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>>152315282
>Also if you make a High Inquisitor your prophet you get H4.
Hardly necessary when you have communions. Fanaticism isn't amazing anyway.

What Marignon should really prophet is a grand master, for the teleportation.
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>>152316308
No. God no. No.
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>>152316487
I guess I'll be stuck magically sitesearching with my immobile N9 pretender for a while then.
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>>152316308
>>152316487
Well, actually, they're worth recruiting if you are a land nation and need to get a ton of W mages for your water elemental spam to fight a UW war. They can do that. Recruiting them for the N1 is a terrible choice, though.

>>152316565
You have no tribal N1 dudes?
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>>152316308
Ictyhid shamans are useful UW, and if you don't have native W access it's handy to have a few frozen heart casters in every army to deter SCs.

They're not great mages, but they're definitely not worthless.

>>152316565
N1 indies are the most common type. Are you sure you don't have any lying around?
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>>152316609
>no tribal N1 dudes
absolutely none, I suppose if I keep going for new land I'm bound to find some sooner or later. I have my own W mages though so they won't do much good there.
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>>152316709
Kill a man and take his N1 mages.
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7:58 PM - Cirno: you shouldnt play sauro
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20 quid Ulm is the last to submit his turn in Magicka
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>>152317535
Sauro is literally the worse nation in EA.
Even UW is better.
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