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american neet edition

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/news/updates/22824/
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://d2armory.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page
Want to upgrade to the superior DotA clone?: http://www.dotabuff.com/learn/lol

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://yasp.co
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
livestreamer GUI: https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui

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>>152112701
first for drow is best waifu
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Post 'em
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>inb4 monkey king isnt a new hero and instead i a boss of a new game mode
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>152112658
>Vanguard
Did you mean abyssal?
And its not the same cause melees need a way of locking down heroes so basher becomes mandatory but at the same time it gives to little bonuses.

Vanguard being part of abyssal in the other hand is cancer
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nth for waifus
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>>152112862
I think we are getting a new gimmick mode or custom game with him.
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Don't post in threads early

Don't post in threads with troll OPs

dumb fucking retards
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Yooooooo dotards
It's my birthday I'm drunk
And I love you all
:)
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>>152112968
>missclick
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>>152112934
>troll OP
?
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EE staying with secret
still streaming on panda
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HOLY SHIT
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=36485
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I've always wanted to be Tresdin's squire. I always enjoy fantasizing about entering the fountain with her after a long battle and slowly removing her armor, starting at the helmet and making my way down to her boots. The embarrassment I feel doing this in front of other female heroes only adds to the allure of the situation. She sits down on a stool and commands me to kneel down and remove her boots one at a time. "Is that a boner?" Rylai says. Akasha licks her lips, Rylai giggles, and Shendelzare glares at me. I try to cover it up out of embarrassment, but Tresdin kicks my hands away. "You haven't finished yet." I don't understand because I had already removed her armor, but after she gives me a look I realize that she wants me to remove her shoes as well. I take off her shoes and reveal her gorgeous feet, surprisingly soft despite her being a strong warrior, and extremely sweaty. "Lick the sweat off my feet, squire," she commands me. I hesitate for a moment and look over to the other girls. They all start giggling at me and whispering. Then I feel Tresdin's foot forced into my mouth with the other one covering my nose. The smell and taste of her sweaty feet causes my raging boner to grow even more. "Alright, squire, stand up and remove your clothes." Although embarrassed, I take all my clothes off. Suddenly I feel my position swapped with that of Shendelzare. Now I'm lying beneath Akasha and Rylai, who had both taken their boots off, and were pressing their feet against my member. "No," Tresdin said, "He's mine." She runs over and gets on top of me. It's only now that I realize that she's holding Aghanim's Scepter, and I understand that nobody will be able to interfere with us. Her technique gets more and more intense until I am unable to hold back. I cum inside her pussy with the force of a hundred megacreeps. She gets off of me, and as I lay there quivering in pleasure she gets dressed and begins to chuckle. "Only 9 inches? Pathetic."
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>>152113102
he would no matter wheat, he said he can communicate with more fans that way
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>>152113162
>THREE
>SIX
>FOUR
>EIGHT
>FIVE
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>>152113162
nice meme dude
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>>152113195
he wouldn't, he makes money on panda due to sponsorship
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>>152113162
3 6 4 8 5
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>>152112883
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>Shirtless Envy stream
>SHIRTLESS
w-wa
h-have some decency envy-chan!!!
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>>152113426
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>>152113426
i mean he really was being offensive honestly, she should have to have her cosplay judged for others like a dog at a show
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>EE invoker
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quote me on this in reddit

EE and RTZ are having role swaps, artisan easily will go back to carry and EE will mid
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>>152113738
>EE will mid
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>>152113873
ee isn't w33 but im sure after a year of playing mid for secret he'll be good at it
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In all likelihood Envy's just still contractually bound to Panda.tv. Seeing as how he doesn't win tournies and doesn't get Twitch revenue anymore and has fuckall for sponsors, it's not worth paying to break contracts early.
Especially considering the Chinese are notorious for shitty contracts.
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>>152113582
Jesus christ sheever really is all legs
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>envy invoker
oh boy
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>>152114014
not true since Universe managed to get out of panda
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LMAO
EE donations still show up on panda! GO wild
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>>152114219
Then the reality is even worse than what we think.
envy is sticking with panda because he's a fucking weeaboo degenerate and likes it over twitch
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update: we somehow won despite wisp having 150 hours and never having played wisp
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>>152114334
Really forces you to fire up those neurons.
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>>152114446
made me remember about those EE/RTZ copypastas we used to see every day here
what went wrong lads
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whens the fucking patch la
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I dont know how you can watch EE stream.
hes absolute cancer to listen to and whines like a little bitch. i bet puppan and artour got sick of his shit.
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So is arc warden better as a middle, safe or off? I've played him like three times (admitedly only in co-op vs bot games) and went mid each time and I just feel like after I get bottle and like mana treads I just kinda stall. I can get lots of kills, sure, but its hard to feel like I have an impact when I dump everything I do to get like one kill because bots group up well for flux and can't really push.
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>>152114621
Weeb music is cozy to have in the background.
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>>152114689
but his music is fucking loud uncozy trash just like his taste in anime
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>>152114670
dont play against bots? playing against bots isn't dota
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>>152114689

not if i have to listen to ee whining intermittently

if you wanna listen to weeb music go find a playlist on youtube
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>>152114815
Well I'm not going to jump into a game when its my first like 10 matches in total and pick the new(est) champ.
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>>152114670
find 6k player that plays alot of arc warden
???
watch them play arc warden
???
learn how they play arc warden
???
still be bad at arc warden, but a little less clueless
???
stop playing bot matches
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>>152114908
don't pick arc warden if you're new to dota, just pick simple heroes like lich or something
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>EE buys rum travels before midas
er
what
do I just not get it?
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>>152114434
If any person in your game on either side has 150 hours, then the game can be won by either side and nothing anybody does really matters.
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>>152114908
>he actually started to play dota
>in 6.88
You are like a year off

I'd rather play battletoads desu those games were more fun than this abortion
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>EE trying to play mid heroes
So it's confirmed he is not going to EG then?
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>>152114908
don't pick heroes that control other units until you have 2000+ games. deadly serious.

don't play bot games as they teach you nothing but bad habits. you will just get thrown with other beginner shitters when you play, so play against beginner shitters.
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>>152115316
>EE is a shitter
what's so hard to understand?
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>>152115316

hes a mid player now

how you question him

he's been trash for a while
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EEs playing Invoker and he forgot to buy a Midas. Only realized it 20 minutes in. Why do you guys think he's good again?
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>>152114908
If you are new you will be matched with new people (and some smurfers), you won't ruin anyone's game.
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I have proof forced 50 does not exist (pic related)

Im not very good at this game but the last couple of days makes me wanna never touch dota ever again.
i should probably just quit the game so i don't ruin it for any more ppl.
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I need to breed Meepo
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>>152115818

>normal skill

honestly you need to off yourself
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Will best girl be buffed?
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>>152115818
if you have less than like 1000 hours of dota you are trash, you can only get less trash by playing more and paying attention to your mistakes. just ignore your team, they're low enough mmr they have no idea what they're doing
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>>152115998
She is already pretty strong, just nerf some people and she will be picked as an alternative.
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>>152115998
i hope so but why did you post lina?
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>>152115818
err anon last month i won 21 of 25 games and then i immediately lost 25 of 30 games.

forced 50 doesnt follow 4 game streaks or something.

You constantly pick heroes that are too hard for you to play and you pick the squishiest possible supports that die most easily and require best positioning to get anything done

EVERYONE WHO'S SHIT AT DOTA JUST PLAY VENGEFUL SPIRIT FOR LIKE 100 GAMES.

if you can't win games with VS in like 1k bracket then yes delete dota
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>>152114962
someone needs to start lifting.
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>>152115818
>positive KDA in 2 out of 15 games

I have intentional feeding streaks that look better than this.

your item choices are garbage and you play extremely easy to kill heroes despite the fact that you can't seem to stop dying. Did it ever occur to you to play a hero that's harder to kill?
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>>152115903
>tfw Russian CHAD is fucking her brains out while she wears her meepo cosplay
>all the while you're just browsing an online battle chess forum and doing nothing with your life
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>>152116323
i don't think you know what the words positive and kda mean anon
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>>152116085
2k+ hours. and i feel like im not learning anything by playing for everyone i play with and against is about as shitty at the game as i am
>>152116189
maybe i should play vengeful for 100 games then
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so clearly no one liked my item ideas like stalwart cuirass or masamune

wtf would be a better item?

one last idea

>new item, nimbus cape
>windlace+ cloak+ 500 recipe
>25 movespeed, 15 magic resistance
>passive phase

>new item, monkey lord bar
>mkb+ nimbus cape
>25 movespeed, 15 magic resistance, 70 attack and 15 attack speed
>phase and minibash
>new passive, true strike aura
>all allied units gained true strike in a 900 unit radius
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>>152116652
if you're not learning anything from your games you aren't paying enough attention to what you're doing wrong, that's just the long and short of it
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>>152116652
PSG here if you want to get better play with better people who will tell you exactly what to do

However, you aren't at that level yet. You feed nonstop, never kill anyone, and your basic itemization choices are ultra garbage.

The main thing for you to do is never touch heroes like anti-mage, crystal maiden or disruptor again. You should be playing heroes like Juggernaut, PA, Axe, Vengeful Spirit, Dragon Knight, etc...Easy tanky characters with stuns and big impact ults and shit.

To repeat myself, DO NOT PLAY HEROES THAT CONTROL OTHER UNITS EVER. healing ward is an exception as it now follows you automatically.
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>PSG here
post dismissed
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>PSG here if you want to get better
LMAO
stopped reading right there
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>>152116189
ive played shit like tinker, tusk, bounty and night stalker and have carried hard

ive lost most games as vengeful spirit

what now faggot
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>>152116824
it's not really true in the depths of dota where he is

he can't learn by observing other players in the game and everything they do is wrong 100% of the time. this hurt me for a long time

I got better by in order of importance
#1 manually learning as much as possible reading wikis and shit
#2 watching/reading well respected guides like chaq's guide to the mid lane
#3 playing with way better people
#4 watching pro/streams

This guy could go into a game right now, pick PA or Jugg or something, jungle until he has 5 items, and then win the game solo. Guaranteed. Did he learn anything whatsoever? No

Low players of dota don't even understand the concept of pushing/defending/taking/protecting objectives. To them it's just deathmatch and then one team gets wiped and loses becuase they can't respawn fast enough (buyback doesn't exist)
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>>152117001
it's really simple, just start paying attention to your mistakes rather than your team's
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>>152116805
>new item, sandmans dust
>consumable, stock item
>makes heroes in a small radius sleep for 5 sec
>takes 50% more dmg for first hit
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>EE playing invoker
HE IS STILL WITH TEAM SECRET GUYS
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>>152116532
positive kda is higher kills than deaths

only two of those games are games where he killed more than died

i dont think YOU know what it means anon
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>>152117001
3 of those heroes are 1k pubstompers and tinker is one where the enemy players dont know what your skills do so they stand there and get hit by missiles 1560 times in the game

venge is literally "i'm bad at dota: the hero" she is everything that newbs need. Stuns, tanky, moves semi fast, good armor, ranged, aura, has a fun ult that can introduce you to the idea of "making plays", and becomes semicarry.
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>>152116824
>>152116843
thx for helping tips
i really wanna get better because i think its a great game and sometimes even fun when i loose if i did good
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>>152117107
you want elder titan to be a purchasable item?
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>>152117172
kda literally says right there in the name anon
kills deaths assists
also it's (kills+assists)/deaths not -deaths
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why don't people jungle wisp?

spirits has a full damage output of 437 / 796 / 1155 / 1514 on creeps, all aoe damage. Won't always deal that much when some collisions miss but its easy to deal 300/600/900/1200+ per cast

then you've got a global ganking hero with 1000 nuke damage, you can just rush blink dagger / blademail and blink on top of people and dare them to hit you back
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>>152117218
>venge
>tanky

You can build her greedy and become a glass cannon semi carry, which ive done multiple times but my team cant fucking not try to solo niggas in jungle then get gang banged by a 4v1 and lose, but in NO way is she fucking tanky

the only tanky supports are initiators like tide or stun and slows like ogre
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How do people play Dota all day?
I wish I had that level of determination. I get fucking winded after just one game sometimes.
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>>152117134
Good. I don't want weebs spamming shit when EG are playing.
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>Go to chink streaming site to check out EE stream
>Immediately crashes my chrome every time I try to get to it
Classic chink quality
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>>152117330
>counting assists

theres your problem anon
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>tfw your golden days of dota are long dead
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>>152117491
>venge isn't tanky

stop following my posts if you're going to say incorrect shit. thanks. she is factually one of the tankiest supports and has more armor than most heroes in the game at most points in the game with her natural builds.

>tide is a support

fucking sub 1k trash dick riding my advice to 1k trash. go away.
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>>152117497
i always get stuck in 1 hour long farm fests in low skill an its the never ending game ~_~
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>>152117421
t. clown_kebab
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>>152117324
I don't ever want to see shit like a boots of travel disruptor again. Go ahead and explain to me why you didn't have tranquils or arcanes and instead were building a pipe
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>>152117497
don't call it kda if you're not going to count assists lad
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>>152117695
>~_~
don't ever reply to me again pls ty
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>>152117096
>#4 watching pro/streams
I wanna say this was my most important factor in starting to git gud. I joined Dota a little before TI3. With every tournament I watched, I felt like I started understanding bit by bit how the pro decision-making worked. While I mostly abandoned playing Dota between TI4 and TI6 (even though I still watched those tournaments) I've recently gotten back into it fully, and watching TI6 has now made me finally have a true impact in most of my games, even without having a ton of played games under my belt.

I always felt like I learned from watching others put something into practice. Tournaments were a great way to do that, even if it took some time, obviously, because I had to first crunch down the little things I observed in a hundred pro games before it finally just started clicking on me.
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>>152117671
>armor

doesnt mean shit when her hp iis shit, if youre telling me shes more likely to survive a team fight wheres focused first more foten than any other support, your fucking lying anon

>tide not a support

hes needs a blink, refreshor and maybe aghs. thats about it. hes not a core and has no skills that would allow him to carry, and instead has a skill that helps your allies get kills or restart the entire fight. how is he not a fucking support
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>>152117789
i cant remember exactly but i think it was something one of my teammates said that everybody needs them that game for alot of tps would be wasting money.
i should probably stop listening to teammates advice idk
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>>152118013
venge is in the upper quintile of strength gain in the game, and has the most of any true support except ogre.

stop typing.
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>Fear spamming supports in ranked

not this shit again
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Is map-hack a thing now?
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>>152118248
post proof
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>>152118013
>>tide not a support
>hes needs a blink, refreshor and maybe aghs. thats about it. hes not a core

Look at this shit. Fucking sub-PSGs trying to argue with me. You look like me from 3 years ago trying to argue with someone better when you have no fucking clue waht you're talking about

Yeah refresher aghs are core tide items and tide isn't a core. You're clearly fucking great at the game.

MEANWHILE, in the game of a player who itemizes based on the enemies they are facing

>>152118016
your teammates cannot play and most importantly maybe about 10% of them will ever get any better. Most people will stagnate at the level they are at or quit the game. Do not listen to *anything* they say.

Yes TP scrolls would cost too much money, so let's nerf our hero by not buying items he NEEDS and instead spending the equivalent of 40 tp scrolls on a recipe.

Are you mentally retarded? Could you not evaluate the failed logic of his statement yourself?
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>>152118186

Nah, ill keep typing, because your full of shit

Ive played venge before, and her hp reaches 2200. at level 25

1380 at 16

thats not tanky. at all
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>>152118323
Check the watch tab in the game you lazy fuck
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>>152118249
No. dota doesn't transmit player positions etc to you if you can't see them. it will never be possible
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>>152118248
he's literally playing Shadow Shaman in a game EE is streaming right now
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>>152118440

so explain to me fucker, if tide isnt a fucking support then what is he? and dont give me some shitty ass copout answer like "core", you better not have the gall to tell me hes a carry
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>>152118528
ya I'm not doing that

post ending in 7 decides what I do instead
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>>152118440
i didnt really think about it, it sounded good at the moment. i dont have any good excuses im just really bad i guess
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>>152118641
you're shit because you don't understand that support and carry are not the only things in dota 2, you can be a core and not a right clicking carry
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>>152118641
>heroes are either "carries" or "supports"

Yeah you're an actual, literal 1k trying to argue with me. This is hilarious. History repeats itself.

The question is, will you ever become as good as I am now? It took me a long time and a lot of people never believed I'd make it anywhere. I dunno if you are made of the same stuff and I sincerely doubt it.
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>>152118664
post your boypussy
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so correct batrider build is drums>arcane>forecestaff>blink right?
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>>152118664
check the watch tab
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>>152118697
don't listen to anything other players say. There will be smurfs in your game and you should listen to them, but you won't know the difference between a person stomping and a smurf for a long time.

Honestly the advice about muting all chat in game that you see constantly..Is good advice. Allows you to focus on your game. How many games have I decided to throw because some person talked shit about me even though what they said is wrong?
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>Ephey has an anime avatar
talk about shit taste
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>>152118838
if you have any kind of followup on your team just rush a blink, you aren't playing in ti6 and the enemy's team coordination isn't good enough to make blink not good
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Wraith King
>generic targetted stun
>passive
>passive
>passive

Drow
>generic slow on attacks
>aoe silence
>passive
>passive

When are these boring heroes getting reworked?
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>>152118838
if a hero buys core blink it isn't as a fourth item. ever.
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>>152118758
>>152118825

if youre not a carry, your a support (or a pusher)

you can talk semantics ll you want, but any hero that normally cant fight to kill on its own but instead requires the team to come and take advantage of that heroes spells is a fucking support

an initiator is a support
a ganker is a support
a disabler or lane support is a support

tide is a fucking support

>The question is, will you ever become as good as I am now

yeah im done with your narcissistic ass
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>>152119093
>the baller king
>boring
you're not building him properly
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>>152119131
you haven't yet realized that support and carry are just general classifications of roles heroes fill, not the gospel on what a hero can and can't do? holy shit you actually are too stupid to listent o any advice, I dunno why you bother asking
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>>152118248
isnt he a good support
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>>152118697
oh i dunno why i haven't brought this up and told you this more strongly already

follow the in game item guides. don't deviate from them much unless you see what you KNOW is a good opportunity to do so. Follow them religiously. You should not be deciding your own item builds because you do not understand the items at all or why they are built

It takes thousands of hours to become adequate at dota dude. Not good, adequate. There is more to learn than any other game that exists save for the most autistic single player strategy shit

Every single game, load up the "6.88 Hero (Support) Guide" or whatever and use that. Every hero has one. They are mostly right, the balance of the time, enough to help you immensely at your level.

Boots of travel are only ever a last item on supports. Ever.
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>>152119282
Fear is a good player in general
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>>152119131
>if youre not a carry, your a support (or a pusher)

why the fuck are people like this here right now? literal kids? and now he's trying to argue when he doesn't even understand the concept of a core, a support, or a carry

"ganker" and "disabler" aren't hero types in dota little friend those are labels used by the in-game hero pick screen and absolutely nothing else.

What's your MMR, little one? Do you have an MMR?
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>2k trashcans giving advice to 1k trashcans
>1k trashcans not even listening
this thread lmao
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>>152119265

theyre guidelines sure

but your not gonna tell me you build fucking crystallis on tide

once again, what does tide do?

He slows and reduces armor
he can tank damage
he can reduce enemies attack
he has a wide ass range ult

do any of these let him kill a farmed carry that isnt already low on hp?

do any of these help his team mates kill that same carry?

i shouldnt have to say anymore
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>>152119481
I'm not responding to your shitty bait anymore
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>>152119395
>"ganker" and "disabler" aren't hero types in dota little friend those are labels used by the in-game
>ignores that support and carry are also labels in game

yep, totally not cherry picking, not at all
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>>152117421
spirits deal 125/250/375/500 magic damage

what the fuck are you smoking
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>>152119626

nice argument m8, toitally won the discussion, i have been enlightened and now understand that tide is not a support, hes a "core", oh how youve changed my life, i can finally climb mmr now that i know the semantic difference between a support and a utility "core"
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>>152119481
>dota is literally only about late game agi carries 1v1ing each other

this is about the level of understanding i expected from you. Please use a name or a trip or don't post anymore thanks

>>152119437
I'm 3k and I'm honestly 4k in ability. There is probably nobody better here to give advice to 1k trashcans. I honestly got so much better and I know how and why.

You know, it's weird. The other night dota made me madder than I have ever been in my life and I hit my monitor with a hammer (full swing) and knocked it off the back of my desk.

Somehow, the monitor is completely undamaged without even a scratch, works fine, and now I'm playing the best dota of my life and have gained 3000 behavior score.

So if you get stuck in dota, remember to use violence to unclog your mind
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>>152119131
>a ganker is a support

Does this mean blessed beetle of surprise burst kill is a support?
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>support/carry meme
there are only cores and non-cores. no hero is static and it depends entirely on the hero composition and how their current role in the game.
Maybe you have a cm who manages to pick up a ton of kills and get a blink/bkb/hex by 30 minutes, that cm is now a core.
Maybe you have an offlane puck who has done quite poorly and just has brown boots and a blink, that puck is now a non-core.
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>>152119093
>A hero is boring if they don't have a flashy skillset
LoLreject spotted.
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>Phoenix aghs
>use it to try and save a core surrounded by three heroes
>die and get blamed

>don't use it, team dies
>get blamed

What do?
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>>152119783
he can be though he's mostly played as a core these days
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>>152119756

what the fuck about my post implies thats what i said

tide helps his team m8s get kills
getting kills is not beneficial for tide in terms of carrying power
tide needs items but that does not change that he supports his team with a slow, and an aoe stun

please explain to me how this is not getting into your thick skull
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>>152119131
this is some lol-meta tier shit you are spouting
the division is cores/supports, and some supports can be cores and some cores can be supports
ganker/disabler/initiator are just labels for what the hero does
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>>152119858
>A hero is boring if they only have one spell and spend the entire game right clicking things
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>>152119909
just stop dude. can tell you think you understand what you're talking about, can also tell you're <18 from your typing style. kids like you all write like you're on cell phones all the time.

i'm not going to engage you anymore if you're going to be a shitter at least be hilarious.
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>>152119641
He is saying the spirits deal that much to creeps when they continue revolving and don't explode when hitting a hero

He then confuses himself and forgets the part he said about it dealing that much to creeps and thinks each orb suddenly deals 300 damage to heroes
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>>152120016
can ee see the holograms?
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>>152119871
>>use it to try and save a core surrounded by three heroes
Did you time it correctly so the hero in question was nearing death with absolutely no chance of survival or even getting a kill? If so, stop listening to shitters. If not, stop using the ability incorrectly.

Also, I hope you used your Fire Spirits to slow the attack of those three enemy heroes before you Supernova'd
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>>152114179
whats not to love about that.
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>>152119871
>guy on my team builds aghs on legion as like second item
>STOP ATTACKING THEM!!!!! ONLY I CAN HURT THEM!!! STOP IT!!
>PEOPLE DO THIS EVERY FUCKING GAME WTF

they need to go ahead and just delete bad aghs from the game. the legion has got to be the worst one
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>>152114962
i recognize that place. its honeypot bay
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>>152119909
carries support their team by killing enemies
carries are now supports
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What is the latest clan inovation?
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>>152120008
>hurr durr ad homs yur shit XDDD!!!!111
>still cant explain in a coherent way why hes right and im wrong

yeah alright, if it helps you sleep at night broski
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>>152119874
Who can't be played as a support tho?

Support wraithking is even a thing and he can just right click down 90% of the heroes in the game
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>>152120092
I don't get the purpose of that Aghs either. If you need something that prevents you from taking damage from the enemy team so much, while at the same time knowing that you won't need your team's help to win the duel, you are likely to be farmed enough and with enough won duels that you could have bought a much more useful item.
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>>152120085
>lose a game with bad phoenix egg
>go back and replay the moment of my failure in 1/4 speed
>all my fire spirit aoes hit precisely 2-3 centimeters max away from the feet of enemy heroes
>scream "NOOOOOOOOOOO" very slowly in a super low pitched voice
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>>152120053
you can cast recast spirits and deal 1000 damage in 4 seconds with it to enemy heroes
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>>152120162
spectre cannot be played as a support
I've tried it and it doesn't work
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>>152120092
>Build (4) support Legion
>Blink in and duel enemy carry using blademail and having aghs
soak upwards of 2000 damage from enemy team while enemy carry kills himself in a 8 EIGHT second duel
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>>152120162
spectre
am
naix
timber
void
luna
drow
etc
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>>152120085
yes to both
guy tried to tp after he was raptured and then stunned

The best part is that they thought he could have escaped


>>152120092
Its the worst, no one should build it on legion
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>>152120160
>>still cant explain in a coherent way why hes right and im wrong

Everyone in your generation thinks every conflict ends in this. Some autistic going back and forth with objective figures until someone is mathematically the winner

You just got told by the entire d2g thread that you are 1k and don't understand the game at all but hey I didn't objectively beat your argument with numbers so it doesn't count to you :^)

Keep maintaining that attitude your whole life, as someone who carried it for over a decade I can tell you it will utterly destroy opportunities for you :^)
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>>152120092
But its a great item if you enjoy building tanky and then diving into the middle of 5 people and dueling their carry for 8 seconds while your team cleans up.

As long as you don't die its an 8 second BKB piercing disable that nothing in the game can stop once it has started.
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What went right?
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>>152120370
>blink in and duel enemy carry
>his team stands around watching, not using a single stun or disable on you
>your team wins the fight even though you are stuck in an autistic manbattle with the enemy carry
>and all it cost you was 4200 gold
wow ur right dude what a great item, I don't know why more pros don't build it :^)
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>>152120353
>raptured
meant to say ruptured

>>152120370
you're assuming that the enemy carry is already activated bkb prefight
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>>152120252
>>152120317
I was just talking about supporctre earlier today and I will prove it CAN work.

I'm trying to rationalize the item choice.
>stout tango 2 salve
>tranquils
>euls
>blademail? vanguard? depends on game, probably some tankish item then blademail every game
>pipe/radiance late depending on team needs

Pick ganky bursty heroes and go hunting every time smoke is up. Go to where a hero probably is nearby, haunt, initiate with euls. Blinks are pre-disabled.
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>>152120549
your build is retarded and if it works you must actually be sub 1k mmr
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>>152118998
>Kuroyukihime

What did she mean by this?
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>>152120442
LC didnt have blame mail and bought an aghs instead
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>>152120442
>1.5k tower damage furion
>1.4k tower damage meepo
>vlads meepo
>satanic clockwerk
>aghs LC
everything went wrong

>>152120549
yeah, it *can* work if your team wins the game for you
face it, supporctre contributes nothing
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>>152120370
>As long as you don't die its an 8 second BKB piercing disable that nothing in the game can stop once it has started.

Except Wyvern Outrider. Summer 2017 with Dragonhawk (Sissy)

His ultimate cyclones everyone on the screen (i can't fucking wait for that)
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>>152120162
>Who can't be played as a support tho?

Completely impossible:
Medusa, Slark, Spectre, Ursa, Troll Warlord, Faceless Void

You can do things in lane but you're fucking retarded if you think this is even remotely good:
Drow, DK, Huskar, Brew, Bristle, LC, Naix, Lycan, AM, PL, Sniper, TA, Luna, LD, Ember, BS, SF, Razer, PA, Clinkz, Brood, Weaver, TB, Arc, Storm, Tinker, DP, Invoker, OD

The fuck are you even smoking?
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>>152120528
If they stun you then they wasted their stun instead of using it in the teamfight

Your team wins because you just removed their carry from the fight
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>>152120671
>face it, supporctre contributes nothing

unkillable aura carrier late game, buys a single item and starts automatically doing more damage than like 3/4 of the heroes in the game can do under ideal circumstances

tanky aura carrying > this patch

If it works, even slightly, you end up having a farmed actual carry and then spectre who eventually caught up and has a radiance and auras. good luck.
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>>152120549
>supportcre
>lists a build that requires offlane levels of farm to even reach minimal effectiveness

Where are you getting this farm? You'll be bullied right out of lane from the start, you have shitty jungle, and a hero that jungles from level 1 isn't a support anyway.
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>>152120442
>Satanic Clockwerk
What the fuck. No, seriously, what the fuck.
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>>152119131
Support vs core is a matter of how much of your time, especially early game, is dedicated to farming and how much of that farm is spent on team items vs personal items. You can play any hero as a carry with varying degrees of success, the same is true of support. Characters that are almost always played as one or the other are done so because they perform better in that role than other heroes. These are all meta choices. Tidehunter is generally not considered a support, or at least a hard support, because he needs a certain level of farm to do what is generally considered his job and needs to spend a reasonable amount of time stacking and farming for himself to get his job done; this is a fact not true of "hard" supports. "Core", as opposed to carry, is a term for this kind of hero that, while they are not necessarily the main carry and are not they number 1 priority for farm on their team, they need to spend a considerably larger amount of time farming than supports to get the most out of them.
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>>152120756
>support weaver is bad

opinions discarded. literally betteromniknightdazzlewinterwyvern.
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>>152120890
the confidence with which you state your retarded ideas really only confirms how bad you are at the video game
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>>152120890
>unkillable aura carrier late game

this is false

>buys a single item and starts automatically doing more damage than like 3/4 of the heroes in the game can do under ideal circumstances

so is this

>>152120981

so is this
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>>152120292
>(4) support
>Ever affording Agh,blademail and blink.
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>>152120756

>troll warlord can't be played as a support.
Literally only 1 of his abilities gives a shit about his farm. You can build things like mana boots and medallion to give something like 60% DPS increase for allies.

It's pretty fucking weak for most of the game but its definitely more doable than some garbage like Tinker or PL.
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>>152120756
>doesn't play support huskar
I'm not going to defend it as sleeper OP or as ideal in the majority of situations, but holy shit it is funny as shit to play. Nobody zones offlaners better than a support huskar, guaranteed freefarm for your carry.

Just doesn't do much after that apart from nuke dudes, heal, and help the team get easy rosh.
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>>152121008
okay, might be false, but support weaver IS possible. he has two of the outright best support skills in the entire game (swarm and aghs lapse)

imagine a team with aghs wraith king and aghs weaver
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>>152120981
>betteromniknightdazzlewinterwyvern
those heroes don't need a 4200 gold item with shit stats to do anything wortwhile
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>>152120162
necrophos
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>>152119131
I can't believe people actually think this is how dota works lmao.

The labels you use don't even properly correlate to the massive umbrella that is the carry/support/core roles since they are just labels used to define what certain abilities of a specified hero can do.

The point of the carry/support/core role is to help your team win by utilizing the strengths of the hero in niche situations.

A hero's basic abilities help them define their strengths and weaknesses and this is further complimented with the attributes that the hero is given (movespeed, base damage, str/agi/int gain, etc). So how does this relate to carry/support/core role? Well hero abilities tend to be simple but they are far from one-dimensional. Having a lot of crowd control doesn't automatically make you a support and if you think that's the case go back to playing league of leukemia or smite or some shit.

This complexity allows you to utilize THE SAME STRENGTH of a hero in DIFFERENT WAYS.

You know what items are in dota 2 my friend? That's what blurs the boundaries between carry/support/core roles. A support in the early can probably become a carry in the late-game if given the right items (think support mirana or naga siren).

This is the type of shit that breeds that carry winter wyvern build. You know the aghs, bloodthorne, maelstrom shit? It's utilizing the strength of JUST ONE SKILL and completely changing how a hero is played.

Honestly it's baffling if you don't understand atleast this much about how this game works. Play overwatch my guy.
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If you will get to pick just one LoL champ to port to Dota, who will it be and why?
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>>152121261
Ahri. Because of waifu.
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>>152121079
You start woods.
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>>152121261
>implying I know what league chimps do
???
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>>152121261
all of them

then delete them
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>>152121132
>supports just need to not care about farm

This is a shit meme. Supports need to do something in lane, and TW doesn't do a fucking thing. He has disastrous base armor, so he can't trade harass even in ranged, he has average base damage, below average attack range, and bad stat growth for a support.
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>>152121350
then you aren't supporting are you
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>>152121261

Timbersaw

Oh...wait...
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>>152121449
He's supporting the enemy team.
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>>152112701
link to wallpaper?
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>>152121225
>team picks 4 cores the other day
>I think hard about my pick and choose AA becuase the enemy team has timber, alch, and another tanky ass hero
>things aren't going great for our team as the cores have all predictably failed and AA is a fucking horrible solo support
>our legion lays out the hard truth for us:
>"protect PA only PA matter thsi game nobody else do anything else"

I specifically chose a hero to make the most impact in the situation, and he didn't even have to basic knowledge to evaluate how huge I could be in the fights with exactly zero items.

Players at the low end of dota- like this guy- are concerned with the idea of "carry" more than absolutely anything else. To them, the objective of dota is to hit other players very fast while life stealing. This decides all games of dota; it is the ultimate objective of every game.

These are the guys who go on your offlane when you picked tide and start taking farm and exp because "you're support my lane"
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>>152118998
anime avatars are super bad. i like anime too but not even i would use a an anime avatar
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>>152121172

Still has awful base armor and will get demolished by a dual lane.

>>152121178
>support skills
>aghs lapse

Here's a hint: if you need an aghs for one of your skills to turn into a support skill, it's not a support skill.

Swarm is strictly worse than wave of terror anyway.
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>>152121261
The one with the biggest tits.
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>>152115998
idk what direction you can buff her in a way that overcomes rain drops. Just nerf rain drops. Fuck that item.
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>>152121642
>Swarm is strictly worse than wave of terror anyway.

?? not even close you are out of your mind..the bugs continue disabling blinks etc for several seconds and do damage..on top of reducing armor WAY more than wave
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>>152121434
>This is a shit meme. Supports need to do something in lane

Not in the age of iron talon, buddy. There won't even be anything to harass. Troll memelord could jungle before, now its even easier. His mana pool is shit but his spell mana costs are low, so arcanes literally lets him turn his team into Lycans globally whenever its off cooldown. He has a slow and a blind, which is more than something like Venomancer has. And a medallion pushes your armor to 9, and allows you to increase the DPS to a target by 90% with ult.

I mean in an era of Kunkka support, do you REALLY think that being able to trade harass matters anymore? No, because if the lane is remotely hard, the offlaner just jungles and you rarely if EVER get offensive trilanes.
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Will Valve ever release a new cute female hero? The game seriously lacks good waifus.
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>>152121728
>enemy not only doesn't take damage from spirit siphon through a single raindrop, DP gains no health

Tell me this isn't fucking bullshit. They shouldn't take damage but she should still gain health, or she should chew through the entire stack of raindrops in one cast

Spirit siphon has FUCKED UP interactions with raindrops and dp is BROKEN because of it because the spell counts as one instance of damage even though it should count as hundreds of instances
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>>152120442
>vlads meepo building into ac
getting triggrd here buddy
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>>152121731

And they're easily dodged and never last long enough to reduce armor beyond what Wave gives you instantly.

On top of which Venge has 3 other useful skills, all of which are useful without aghs, where Weaver has a skijll only marginally better than swap with aghs.

And, again, does fucking nothing in lane.
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>>152112701
>universe comes into my GF's restaurant today
>gf is pretty much the only person that recognizes him
>he goes to pay
>his gf says "naw I can pay I got this, it's not like you won this TI"
savage burns
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>>152121804
see >>152120746

qt female skywrath in high end regalia coming.

too bad she's like the most evil person out of the entire lore
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>>152121261
>lol


Wukong can be an interesting character. I would be so hype if they can put the monkey King in Dota.
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>>152121804
dota already has all the waifus it needs
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>>152121937
>And they're easily dodged

oh look, it's another person who doesn't know what the cast range on the swarm is and doesn't know how to use it. you don't stand in the middle of the lane under vision and throw it at them dummy.

please though, go look up the range of the swarm for me. you'll be glad you did
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>>152121762
>Not in the age of iron talon

Yeah go pick 2 weak supports and see what happens. You'll get dual laned and lose the game instantly because your carry wont get shit.

The age of iron talon exists because people pick good supports, not because the jungle is actually better than the offlane.

>He has a slow and a blind, which is more than something like Venomancer has.

Oh yeah, trading away a useful teamfight ult, hilarious lanepush, blink disables out the ass, and one of like the 4 best gem carriers in the game for a blind is a great fucking idea.
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>>152122136

Literally how is Troll Warlord support somehow so awful when support Kunkka is played?
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>>152122110
>cast it out of vision

oh no this really slow projectile has just appeared and i only have 13 fucking years to get out of its extremely obvious path, what do I do
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>arteezy: I'm 65 in Overwatch I'm pretty good, I said I need some time to be the best.
>Charlie: Is that why you got last place in TI.
BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH.
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>>152122201
>troll warlord has an ability to reposition enemies (the most powerful class of abilities in dota), a guaranteed aoe stun, and a 50% damage reduction to allies nukestun

what? kunkka was destined for this. the hero needs pos1 farm but can't carry, the design doesn't work
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>>152121762
A safelane where the enemy leaves to jungle is a won safelane, I don't understand dota at the moment. The reason TB was rolling cunts and getting rax at 15 minutes in the lead up to TI was this new craze of not even having an offlaner at all, just a fucking jungler and letting the other team have a freefarm lane. Talon is good, but its giving people an excuse to not lane at all in challenging situations when the role of the offlaner has always been to do as much as possible to disrupt the safelaner without feeding. Pros are getting so greedy with their offlaners and everytime the other team picks something like TB and it isn't contested they get steamrolled for it, What's that? You've got a vlads on void? That's great, you just lost bottom rax your dumbshits. Do pros even watch pro games?

Talon removed from game when? Its not because it OP, its because its turning people in to retards who wont lane.
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>>152122201
>Kunkka
>an incredible initiation spell with retarded range, a teamfight ult that makes your team literally immortal, a passive that gives you risk-free harass in lane at the cost of pushing a, and another initiation spell that you can cast from fucking miles away
>warlord
>an attack speed buff every once in a while

what a question
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>>152122229
holy shit anon think of pudge

do you see the hook before you get hooked anon? are you fast enough to dodge it? no because it comes out of the TREES

THE TREES FRIEND. THE BUGS COME FROM THE TREES USE THE TREES

weaver = vietcong hero, fights you and then disappears all over the place, attacks from the trees and runs the fuck away, is asian (shukuchi literally means ninja magic btw)
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>>152122412
>bugs move as fast as a hook
>bugs do even a tenth as much as a hook

nah, son
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>>152122201
I honestly can't believe pros weren't picking more offlane/jungle trolls this year given how well he combos with TB and illusions in general. Troll+TB is good enough a combo to make up for picking troll in the first place at the moment.
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>>152122343
Dude I've been playing offlane for a long time and with the current game you just simply can't offlane vs a lot of lane combos

you step up into exp range, you die. iron talon is a hacked-together solution to a serious problem that's requiring months of effort for them to figure out. They wanted a good meta at TI6, not one where offlane sits there and gets 0 last hits for 10 minutes and tries not to die.. I wouldn't be surprised if it were removed entirely one day.
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>>152122481
they dont need to move as fast as hook anon because they are a gigantic field 1200 units wide instead of a fucking 125 unit wide hook
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>>152122543
In the face of giving the other team a free lane, the better solution is to dual lane.
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>>152122412
too bad you're playing him as a support
>weaver = underlevelled vietcong hero, fights you for pitiful damage because he has no farm and then doesn't actually disappear because shukushi has a long cooldown at level 1 and weaver has a dogshit mana pool, attacks from the trees once and does no damage and doesn't run away because he has terrible base movespeed and dies because he has terrible armour
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>>152122543
>playing radiant offlane the other day
>step up to finally try get 1 last hit like 3 minutes into the game
>a fucking enigma that i thought was jungling was literally just hiding in the left side of the trees
>for THREE MINUTES
>just to stun me when i walked up

fuck that guy
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>>152122201
How is Kunkka support compared to TW support?

Kunkka has hard CC, slow, an amazing team fight ult and cheese with X Marks plays.

Only support I can think of being like a TW support is KotL, both being greedy before really starting to do stuff.
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>>152122646

So? If you're casting from out of vision people still have plenty of time to get out of range.
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>>152119871
>get blamed

That's what you do
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>>152122371

You are sidestepping it. Kunkka before level 2 has literally zero harass available to him. He needs levels before he can, and gets it from pulls. The tradeoff is mostly in bottle refilling shenanigans and his ultimate.

Troll has a bash, a 100 range salve cancelling slow, a 60% blind, and +6 armor on command at level 2. Unlike kunkka, he actually CAN jungle or pull quickly. You trade AoE rum buff for AOE damage amp.

Boots of mana gives troll warlord the ability to cast 4 of his spells. 60% AoE blinds only start to fall off the same reason X marks does, purging items like Eul's, Manta, or BKB. You get VERY easy Roshan control or can threaten Rosh very easily with ANY roster with troll on it.

I am not saying Troll Warlord is some "SLEEPER OP" support. My original point was that its much better than truly useless trash like >>152120756
Support Tinker, PL, or SF.
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>>152122709
Uhh no because dual laning means you then get two heroes who get no farm instead of one. the offlane has enough farm for one hero. That's the point of the way the map is configured
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When the fuck will Mirana go back to the dumpster?

LMAO 1200 single target nuke and 600 AOE damage on 10 seconds. Really balanced
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>phaseboots meepo
>120 damage
>speed boost for nets
>low health meepo can phase through other meepos
seems pretty gud
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>>152122853
>Kunkka before level 2 has literally zero harass available to him.

What is this "everyone skills the same thing at level 1" meme? In the fucking finals there was a game where Kunkka skilled tidebringer level 1.

>Troll has a bash

That he cant use, because he cannot go into melee range with his base armor.

>a 100 range salve cancelling slow, a 60% blind

And then he has to go back to base.

>Unlike kunkka, he actually CAN jungle or pull quickly

"pull quickly"? Great! we can push with our lanepulls instead of doing what we wanted to do!

>Boots of mana gives troll warlord the ability to cast 4 of his spells

4 spells holy fuck

>My original point was that its much better than truly useless trash

Maybe better than SF. Tinker has equally good harass in lane if you ignore mana costs like you're doing, same for PL.

The main point here is that playing any of them as supports is fucking stupid.
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>>152114908
Honestly playing against bots is stupid

>play on insane
>enemy bots group as 5 and push down mid at 14 minutes
>will die and just continue to keep pushing down mid
>your team will do the same


Bots are retarded
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>>152122873
aghs upgrades cant be op
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how the fuck you play blood? He just have an ult and thats it
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>>152123129
insane bots literally cheat...actually all levels of bots do but below insane it's bugs

bots on insane will be like "yeah i respawn NOW" and then show up across the map without teleporting
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>>152123158
Yea sure.

>>152123181
Play as a support and get a glimmer cape.
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>>152123181
dagon eblade
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>>152123129
o-oh. I mean considering teh kinds of people I've had show up in bot games (an axe that died to neutral jungle like 8 times then jsut kept running into middle to die to turret) are those the same people who show up in normal games?

Won't winning against those people just inflate any ranking I have and then throw me into rape town?

This is why I was playing bots to try to figure things out.
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>>152123115
>What is this "everyone skills the same thing at level 1" meme? In the fucking finals there was a game where Kunkka skilled tidebringer level 1.

Are you joking? That counts as lane harass but not whirling axes?

>That he cant use, because he cannot go into melee range with his base armor.
Troll in melee form has 8 base armor. That is higher than terrorblade.

>And then he has to go back to base.
And kunkka doesn't? They both can cast their spells the same numbers of time before being completely out of mana.

>4 spells holy fuck
Its more than Kunkka gets.

>Maybe better than SF. Tinker has equally good harass in lane if you ignore mana costs like you're doing, same for PL.
You are angrily agreeing with me.

>The main point here is that playing any of them as supports is fucking stupid.
I wasn't arguing to play Troll support, holy fucking shit. Learn to read.
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>>152123181
>Bloodlust yourself
>Bloodlust enemy
>Eblade
40+40+40% then just rofl dagon them
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>>152123324
>>152123393
That sounds fun, i actually can do it.
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>tfw no pure dota 2 waifus
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>>152121564
AA is a shit solo support, it's literally because you didn'ick a support that can do shit instead of fucking aa lmao
just pick sky or something to kill timber and the like
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>>152123368
>Won't winning against those people just inflate any ranking I have and then throw me into rape town?

how cute. just like girls thinking they're going to explode into a muscular monstrosity if they lift a weight once.
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>>152123556

>tatoos

RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>152123556
>pure
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>>152123556
>tatoo
>le quirky wall

Yea she sucks cock on a bidaily basis.
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>>152123565
bruh when my team first picks four cores (and i mean four hard carries not some assorted heroes with actual skills) I am picking the hero that requires the least effort possible not to abandon

and that hero is one who can sit in spawn and still not abandon. game was lost in like 10 minutes anyway, didn't matter
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>pick aggron stonebreak, the ogre magi
>press E on allies
>win

ummmmmmm.....dotards??????????
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>get 5 kills top
>get a kill mid
>get a kill bot
>also get 6 assists
>all by 13 minutes
>we should have no problem winning now
>carries still get outcarried

BOOGA
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>>152123393
>dagon veil eblade bloodseeker
come on you know you want to
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>>152123602
I don't think that analogy is close to what I'm thinking. If I play 20 games against people who do this doesn't that make a larger impact on a rating when I can go like 25/0/30 each game vs playing 20 games where I go like 5/10/18?
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>>152123725
>team too busy angrily typing at one another to play the game
>lose
haha holy shit why does everybody insist on doing this instead of just muting retards holy fuck
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>>152123818
yes, but you aren't ever going to go 25/0/30 or have high farm. and it stops counting after ~25 games, when your calibration period is over.

you're being told not to play bot games for a reason. those people are in bot games for a reason.

Why does every single beginning player want to argue about everything? I mean, really? Why do you come here and ask?
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>>152123709
at that point just pick support slardar and go full retard, you can't go half retard and expect to win
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>>152123556
>Ephey will never take your 25 MMR and emasculate you in all chat as she does
>tfw 3k
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>>152123556
>pure
>she is so corrupt her hair is starting to change color

If corruption threads over at /d/ have taught me anything its that next her hair will fully change color then her skin will turn dark and then she will turn into a succubus or grow a dick or maybe her skin will turn into latex.
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IT'S HAPPENING LADS, SEA DOTA TO WIN TI7
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>>152124195
damn fucking singapore service is like 3 years isnt it
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>>152123956
I'm not seeking to argue. All you had to say was something along the lines of "Even people like that don't show up in normal games, calibration is about 25 matches have fun" but instead I get told that I'm retarded for thinking playing with mouth breathers will inflate an arbitrary number and drop me in rape town due to how all I ever hear about people's MMR is how smurfs are fucking everywhere.

This is like when people ask how long they have to live with cancer and the doctor schedules them for an appointment in 5 days to tell them the answer.
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Best offlaner streamer? I can't stand watching Bulldog because of his downsyndrome and Universe streams very rarely.

I miss Bone7 streams.
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>>152123368
Dude just play unranked matches. You will get matched with other people of similar skill. Trust me its the only way to get good, bots are absolutely retarded

>play offlane void against bots with cm dual laning with me
>I chrono
>she does nothing, doesn't even ult

At least with real people the cm would've probably ulted or right clicked or used any of her fuckinf spells
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>>152124267
>other countries require military service even in times of peace
>US only has drafts during wartime, and even then we haven't needed one in 45 years
Why are other countries so shit?
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>>152123556
Them fucking fertile hips mang
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>>152124327
dota requires very thick skin or you will hate it. real talk. what you are getting here is about the most niceness you will ever experience from dota community

Calibration is a minimum of 25 matches and a maximum of 40, I have not been able to determine. During this period your unranked mmr (invisible) can swing by huge amounts, up to over 1000 per game.

after calibration your unranked MMR is set and then changes by 25 to 30 per game.

You do not have to worry about gaining extra MMR through calibration. Trust me. It looks at a lot of shit like your farming decisions and damage
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>>152124327
you will not learn dota playing against bots, you will learn some retarded pseudo-rpg
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>peruvian picks techies 4th
>other peruvian last picks medusa
Okay positive mental attitude, techies could work here.
>void goes bf into mjolnir
>satifying push at t3s
>dusa dives fountain before we've taken any racks
HAHA this is still winnable
>no bkbs on any cores
>60 mins
>clock afk pushing lanes clearly titled by our farm only never push dusa
>dusa feeds away rapiers
>void has built mkb aghs bfly despite the fact he hasn't landed a chrono in 20 minutes

Tell me, is techies an insta-abandon on US east?
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>>152124542
hips are higher than what you're looking at. what you're seeing is called saddlebags.
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>>152123393
My friends think I'm memeing them, but its literally the only thing he does better than anyone else.
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How to fix Secret?

>Puppey
>Arteezy
>Zai
>Miracle
>+1 good offlaner
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>>152124640
What? Those are her hips dude. I think you're thinking about her waist or some shit
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>>152124885
You got the money, you got your man
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>>152124885
>how to fix secret
>kidnapp good players and force them to play on your team against their will
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>>152124885
>>+1 good offlaner
Universe kek
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>>152116805
maybe make something that has unique effect and not old shit with bigger duration or aoe

your creativity is on par with 5 year old
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>>152124885
Puppey's ego is sincredibly inflated and rtz is overrated as fuck. All individual performances are. Just dissolve thos team already.
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>>152117107
>sandsman
More like bill cosby
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@152117096
@152116843
then how come you are still 2k

checkmate you fucking retard
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>>152124885
Go back in time to the lineup that would have won TI6 with pretty much zero difficulty
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W-would anyone want to play the game with me?
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>>152120756
>support lifestealer is bad

somebody post the webm
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>>152125167
not with s4 choking like he did
VP's lineup wasn't exactly playing amazingly at the time, DC, Wings and EG all played better than them. And teams like TNC and non-choking Liquid could probably match them.
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>>152124195
OH FK LA
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>>152125282
do you have a cute feminine penis?
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>>152125286
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pajkatt's girl is such a whore
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>>152125361
...the lineup I was talking about wasn't the s4 one bruh.

misery and w33 secret was one of the most smoothly functioning teams we have ever seen

"let's throw it all away for no reason"

dumb fucking turks and estonians. proving once and for all that only whites should be in charge of any decision

(estonian people are white but when you associate heavily with nonwhites like turks and EE you become nonwhite)
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>>152125370
I'm not sure what this has to do with playing dota
but it has been called cute before
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>>152125530
prove it
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New Item
>Dingle's Big Item
Daedalus, Basher, Shadow Blade plus a 100 gold recipe
Gives all existing bonuses and 100 of your main stat and 50 more damages
I have literally no idea how dota balance changes interact with each other and change the flow of the game, therefor there is nothing wrong with this item and I refuse to understand why this is overpowered. Also there should be more inventory slots
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Malcomx.jpg
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>>152125575
No thanks. I'm here to find someone to play dota with!
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https://twitter.com/EternaLEnVy1991/status/766153020807712768
dotards??????
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>>152125729
at least you know you are retarded
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Why can't girls be good at dota?
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>>152125795
things are ok :))))))))))))))))
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>>152125729
Nice man, I like it, rate mine.
>The Prophet's Golden Helm
>Aegis of the Immortal+HoTD+20k gold recipe
Grants no stats, just an active.
>Win the fucking game
You channel for 1 minute, then the enemy ancient is destroyed and you win the fukken game.
Flavour text:
>The helm of an ancient prophet. Those who follow his teachings are said to be undefeatable.
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>>152125517
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>>152125517
?

there are no turks on secret
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>>152126304
Nice dude! My enternet is being frick*n shitty so I made another epic item.
Dingle's Tiny Foot
>2 brown boots, 1 blade of attack, 1 +6 stat item and a point booster
Gives +25 stats and 35 dmg, along with 120 ms
Thansk too my 2 extra item slots, since six is just a relic of DotA and therefore should be updated, it's 2016 afterall, you can have Dingle's Tiny Foot and still carry a tp
Again, I do not understand item interactions and all my shitty faggot retard items I post in d2g are he*ken epic and certainly have no negative effects.
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>>152126548
d2g: the post

I hope "tidehunter is a support who builds refresher aghs core" guy comes back tomorrow
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>>152126594
oh yeah I forgot about kemal
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EG.EE
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EG EE FUCK
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>LC dueling people with full health
>LC dueling people in lasso
>LC dueling people with full health under enemy tower
>LC dueling people with full health in the middle of 3 of their allies

How do I stop them from losing this game for me?
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>>152126781
hi my name is gaben
i like to ruin good games
this time i will make hero specific quests so people will go full retard
let the $$$ flow
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EE to EG.
LMFAO
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>>152126764
>>152126743
Nice
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>>152121992
It's another "things that never happened" episode.
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>idiots believing it's real
EE IS NOT A TIER 1 PLAYER AND WILL NOT BE SIGNED TO A TIER 1 TEAM.

EE GOES TO DIGITALCHAOS WHICH IS NOW: MISERY ETERNALENVY W33 BULBA somebody

any t1 team that loses a support will take saksa for big salary. Moo is straight gone, proving he can be a phenom on one hero = salary.
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EG or Secret?

Which of the two are the more cancerous team?
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>>152125775
But how can you focus on dota if you can't stop think about dicks?
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>>152126979
>>152126764
>>152126743
[Citation needed]
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>>152127354
definitely secret

puppey has lost his touch
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i just read the leaked chat logs. 1437 is such a little bitch, holy shit. i guess since he sucks dick at dota, he needs to suck up to the people who can still play the game to try and remain relevant

also it's funny how you see people talking about the players as if they're amazing and whatnot (blitz' recent blog sucking up to kuro), then you read those conversations and see him being a manipulative little bitch
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NEW ITEM IN 6.89: STYGIAN BRAND

>Desolator (3500) + Demon Edge (2400) + Claymore (1400) = Stygian Brand (7300)
>+137 Damage

Passive: Cauterize
>Orb Effect
>Your attacks reduce enemy armor by 13 for 7 seconds and prevent all regeneration on affected units.
>Stops all life gain from any source


THE ITEM WE NEED TO SALVAGE THIS META
make PA viable once again
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>>152127521
>https:// twitter com/BuLbaDotA/status/766157754998325248
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>>152127354
>EG
>Mostly stable roster for 2 years, only a couple players swapping in and out, one guy because he had to go to school
>Win big
>Not a lot of drama despite having dramatic players

>Secret
>Roster stability is basically that one guy has been captain for a while and appears to have lost his touch drafting
>Haven't won anything but a major, immediately disassembling the winning team in what was, in historical perspective, the biggest mistake anyone has made in esports history
>Actively tried to attack their rival organization by purchasing players away right before the deadline-- absolute scumbag shit, the type of shit you'd expect from a subhuman ARAB MUSLIM TURK.

gee i wonder which organization represents a shit log and which doesnt

i was actually a fan until the w33 misery kick too.
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Meracle > Miracle
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>>152127604
Add in a recipe to make it cost more desu sandpie.
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>>152127390
That Doujin was amazing.
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>>152127681
>Actively tried to attack their rival organization by purchasing players away right before the deadline-

I'm pretty sure rtz and universe wanted to leave
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>>152127846
doesn't matter what the players wanted, it's scumbag shit to do and now it can never happen again because valve wisely set the rules up the way real sports have them
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>>152127617
>I believe everything I read on twitter

Every pro is trolling the fuck out of everyone right now
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>>152127969
>Aug 28, 2016
>all the trolling is over
>eternalenvy to: Kaipi
>"ha ha, i got everyone good"
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>EG.EE
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Yo why did no one mention Demons girlfriend is hot as fuck? Jimmy is slaying some prime pussy
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>>152127969
sorry man, im abit high so you can see how i was thinking this is legit.
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>>152128163
m8 everybody mentioned it during TI6
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>>152126781
The Booga is just too strong /d2g/

>LC duels at the worst possible times
>Omni never uses his ult in teamfights unless he is about to die
>he ether blows up before he can use it or he is the last one alive
>2 headed dragon of burning towers with 0 tower damage despite ignoring teamfights and splitpushing half the game
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>>152127828
Im going to need the source
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DELUSIONAL
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>>152128442
Floki? Is that you?
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>jimmy trying to play with ephey

YOU JUST KNOW
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>>152128495
LITTLE
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>kuro already trying to poach players

DLF
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>>152128442
how can a gyro on the winning team only have 600gpm, even your enemies are no good at the game. also 10 anonymous lol
this is some bottom tier fluff you posted right there, i think you need to take more control over the games you play if you're good enough
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>>152128603
are you serious dude

>>152128639
?
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>>152128716
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>>152128756
that is a basically meaningless twitter post
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Gulag, how do you get out of 2k
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>>152129031
Spam an OP hero. Literally the only way
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>EE TO REPLACE FEAR
>NOT RTZ
PEEEEEEEEEEEEETER
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>>152128480
(C85) [from SCRATCH (Johnny)] Rinko-mama ha Kawaii Otoko no Ko ga Osuki (Gundam Build Fighters)
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ROSTER SHUFFLE DRAMA I NEED MORE
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MEME
OF
THE
CENTURY
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>>152129031
this is the single best piece of dota 2 that exists. does anyone know if the game id is actually recorded anywhere, or if there's any way to resurrect it to make a better webm?

the fucking magnus, every time.
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>>152118013
This faggot loses everygame as tide dont listen to a 1k like him
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Do you think Dota is like Wreck it Ralph where at the end of the match everybody goes home and lives their lives.

And they all live at Valve HQ and hang out with the TF2 guys and console Gordon Freeman about not having any games for like 12 years.

I bet they do.
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>>152129031
Get better. Actually try.

You know there are a bunch of stuff you don't do, because you watch streams and e-sports. Start doing them.

Make sure you learn something new every game. Be consistent.
I'm not talking about items or skill builds, more small things, like, looking at the minimap constantly, use smokes, check enemy supports tps, check enemy inventories / mana whenever you see them, etc.

You can easily get out of 2k if you just try.
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>>152129031
there are 2 factors that determine if you can get out solo or not
1: you need to be better than 2k, if you are no better than 2k you cant get out of 2k
2: play heroes that can solo win, but also decent team-fight

farm, punish mistakes, objectives, don't do mistakes
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>>152129394
no each game played is a different universe

even when the ancient is destroyed I don't actually think that means the entity is destroyed entirely just the physical manifestation
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>>152129257
Nyx is out before magnus even appears in frame, yea he misses, but it didn't matter.
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Is weaver offlane hero or a safelane carry?
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Is monkey king coming in the patch with shitlord?
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>>152129449
How do you get out if you are support tho?

Where do all these pro support players come from if its impossible to escape 2K as support?

Do you have to spam carry until 5k and then you are allowed to play support or is 3k enough?
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>>152129257
well it can't possibly be watched ingame unless you still have a version of the source1 dota client. no source1 replays can be watched in source2, and i'm not sure about the situation with watching replays from an older map version on the current version's map. this means that even if you have source1 dota and a replay of the match, you may not be able to watch it still.
as for being recorded on youtube, i have no idea. judging from the green map, it has to be from earlier than 2013 or 2014, whichever patch around that time made the map less disgusting visually.
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>>152122509
They wanted to win is the thing
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>>152129502
>town portal expert
exactly because he missed it
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most hated iteam:

Makes you invisible until the duration ends, or until you attack or cast a spell. While Shadow Walk is active, you move faster and can move through units. If attacking to break the invisibility, you gain bonus damage on that attack.
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>>152129559
no
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>tfw try to meme with offlane kunkka
>doesnt work
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>>152129449
first pick lycan
safe lane/jungle/mid lane it doesn't matter
mute you're team
hit buildings
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>>152129502
thank you for the explanation, was needed and useful

>>152129582
you "aren't" anything as a player. You need to know how to play all roles or you don't belong above 2k. capische?
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>>152129665
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKbWrP6b3WY
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>>152129502
>forgot pic

>>152129556
Weaver is a meme-hero at the moment, but a decent carry if your team has none.

>>152129582
A guy on reddit a year back proved it was possible to get to 5k only supporting. It's a myth that you have to go mid and dominate to advance.
I made it to 4.3k by mainly supporting at one point.
I made one important observation, people in 3k knows the basics of how to gank and carry, though they have almost no idea of how to properly support. It's gotten easier now, with visible spawnboxes etc, but from what I've seen, it's the same.
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>>152121728
>reduce dmg of all spells except by 25%
>they now all deal pure dmg
>make Aghs do something else
fixed
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>>152129556
He is support

>able to move around quickly and avoid being killed better tham most supports
>sneaky invis skill to help place wards without enemy team knowing
>great early game harass
>armor reduction and vision skill
>his aghs makes it so you can save the carry from basically anything in the game as long as they don't die instantly

He is one of the best supports in the game
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How does new player clinkz good? I always want to just be a sack of shit and keep burning arrows on 24/7 but hard to get enough mana regen to do so. Suggested items shows orchid but I don't think that's a really good item for him? Or am I just retarded.
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>>152129782
>A guy on reddit a year back proved it was possible to get to 5k only supporting

A guy somewhere also won the lottery. Dota has something like 20 million active players. One guy getting to 5k supporting, 1000000 guys getting to 5k coreing.
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>>152120369
>1k trashcan gets mad and unwittingly broadcasts how much of a failure he is in the time honored classic of projecting

If you cant be funny just get a trip so your cancer can be ignored
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>>152129782
>>152129831
I played him yesterday and thought he was quite good. Especially once he has desolator
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guys, I have a strong sneaking suspicion that you're all a bunch of idiots
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>>152129856
Rush Rapier then buy Blink
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>>152129619
>iteam
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>>152129902
i really hope you're just being facetious and you didn't roll support weaver only to buy a desolator first
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>>152129831
>memeing on a conversation from like 2 pages ago in the same thread

Now this is shitposting

>>152129856
Abort. Absolutely not the right type of hero for a newer player. Clinkz is basically map awareness: the hero and you cannot use him effectively. You will get infinitely more out of any ranged hero who just hits harder by default.

On top of that, he's currently a shit hero. The basic design of the hero is broken and must be changed in the near future
>hey guys can you please fight near the jungle?
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>>152129619
If only there where 2 different item options to counter this

How about balanced RNG stun hammer that will never proc when you need it but the enemy has a 90% bash rate?
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>>152129882
That might be true, but you only need one to succeed to prove that it's possible, no?

The fact that there's so few means it's harder, but then you learn more in the process as well, if you can stick with it, I guess.

>>152129616
Maybe I just don't get the meme, but if he was far away, blinks -> forces into position -> tries the skewer, then anybody could miss, and it probably didn't matter, cause he was too far away in the first place.
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>>152130009
I went offlane not support
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>>152130074
"possible" and "plausible" are two different words anon, and when someone says the first they generally mean the second.

Somewhere out there is a guy who has played only support spectre, and is 6k, because the system accidentally wins him almost all of his games, because of luck because of poorly generated random numbers.

Is he good? Does it matter? It's monkeys and typewriters. Telling someone they "can" gain MMR as a support is meaningless, because they won't.

I gained 800 MMR in 6.83 playing overpowered cores. When I got past 3k my games were *easier* because people suddenly had an idea to play and weren't just doing random fucking things.
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>>152127729
7300 gold isn't a high enough cost for you?
the only other item that costs as much is memethorn at 7195 gold and dagon 5 at 7720 gold
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>>152127604
literally dazzle and AA ult
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>>152129582
i've said it before and i'll say it again, the best way to gain MMR is to control how your game goes yourself. the reason people pick mids to climb MMR when they know what they're doing is because they have control over potentially anywhere on the map. it starts with outplaying the enemy mid, and then you can gank. you're controlling the game by doing this.
now, if you pick bounty, you are free of the stress of having to last hit/deny and, provided your team has a support, you will be filling a niche role at about a position 4. this also relies on you having an offlaner, mid, and carry, which is usually easy enough.
bounty is enjoyable because he has huge control over the game - you have a stun nuke, a stealth, a slow, and a portable teamwide money making machine in your ultimate. simply by having a stealth, all enemy players are forced to be aware that you exist and play carefully, because you can arrive in any lane, any jungle, at any time to secure kills. you can harass junglers and absorb their gold and xp. you can annoy the midlaner into hiding under their tower. you can use the money you get from roaming and killing to buy wards for your team, to help you gank, to help you kill. you can pick off rotating supports before they can arrive for a gank, and you can disrupt their stacks and pulls and take the gold they wanted.
bounty is the most powerful hero in the game because of this, but i don't often see him picked. my winrate is absurd over a handful of games, playing solo and with 1-2 party members. as long as your teammates can recognise that you are coming to help them create an advantage in their lane (COMMUNICATE WITH THEM YOU FUCK), and their hero allows for trying for kills (almost every one in the game, no excuses), you have at best killed their enemy laners, balanced the lane, given your teammate gold and xp, secured yourself enough gold to buy your next little item, and gained slightly more xp towards your level 6.
watch bounty games & win
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>>152130298
Yeah that is not high enough. Preventing regeneration from any source is pretty crazy.
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>>152130010
>cursing the road
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>>152129909
why do you say that
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>>152125282
>>152125530
>>152126979
>>152127390
>>152128310
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFQQALduhzA
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>>152129817
>pure damage missiles

Yeah, really scales well to late game
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Roman Fominok @Resolut1on_ 3 h
@1437x lgd.1437 ?
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>>152130642
Not to mention its the strongest item in the game aside from rapier and the -13 armor will probably put the items effective damage over 200 and you don't drop it when you die.
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>>152122778
KotL doesn't really needs items to do anything though. He just needs his ult during teamfights, mana leak alone is a broke ass spell, chakra giving mana and cooldown reduction is also broke as fuck.

KotL himself has low damage output, but his utility, kill potential, saving potential and free mana makes him an extremely strong support, and 1 point into Q is actually super strong in the laning phase because it's a 200 damage nuke if he channels fully.

He's not someone you take with a weak laner, but put him with a Drow, an AM, anyone with low cooldown nukes, he becomes a lane dominator.
You can play him as a greedy support, and his Aghs is really good, but I play him as a hard support and frequently only get a force staff of euls before the game ends, but that's because KotL is a very strong roamer. He's fast, mana leak and chakra magic is broke as fuck, and he never needs to return to fountain once he gets tranquils.

He's constant map pressure so long as he's alive, although he's fairly mediocre at teamfights without his ult unless there's a lot of wombo to combo with, because Illuminate is strong as fuck so long as you actually have some way to make it hit. Enigma + KotL is absolutely ridiculous for the first 30 minutes because it's guaranteed illuminates on multiple people.
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>>152130010
Oh. Ok. Thanks.
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>>152130878
XD
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>>152130268
>Somewhere out there is a guy who has played only support spectre, and is 6k, because the system accidentally wins him almost all of his games, because of luck because of poorly generated random numbers.
>It's monkeys and typewriters
No. It's not the same.

>Telling someone they "can" gain MMR as a support is meaningless, because they won't.

You're mixing up arguments honestly.
You'd probably go further and say, it's like telling someone to play the lottery because someone won, and I'd say no, it's not the same at all.

You're talking about dota in statistics and percentages, ill try to answer using the same logic.
You can increase your skill at dota, which increases your odds againts opponents.

Sure if you have a 1 monkey on a typewriter the chance of getting hamlet is infinitesimal, or if you buy one lottery ticket the chance of winning is the same.

But in Dota you get to increase the amount of lottery tickets or monkeys with typewriters you have available, by increasing your skill..

This whole argument is fucking retarded honestly, and someone it spawned an entire strawman debate.

20kk < infinite.
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>>152131092
somehow*
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>>152131035
try weaver, he's fun to play and infuriates people who are learning.

when your swarm bugs hit people, you are doing HUGE DAMAGE with auto attacks, just remember that. players who are learning dota rarely even acknowledge when their armor is being reduced and they will run around letting you strike them to death and they won't even knock the bug off their butt.
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>>152131092
>You can increase your skill at dota, which increases your odds againts opponents.

except it doesn't until you reach a certain threshhold of outskilling the opponent, and playing lower-impact-late roles, or non-game-ending roles, or can't-farm roles, pushes that threshhold farther away.

If you're playing support, you are *decreasing* the amount of lottery tickets you're using, even if your skill has increased.
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>>152131206
>TFW Sandking Epicenters the entire tourney
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>>152131206
>being this mad

We get it, you ran out of seats.
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>>152130892
It does.
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>>152131281
>If you're playing support, you are *decreasing* the amount of lottery tickets you're using, even if your skill has increased.

Yea, this is true, and I'd agree that it's less useful to tell someone to support to 5k rather than going mid.

But the original question was what a 2k support player does to increase in mmr. He could continue to play support, and beat the odds, or learn to play mid..
But then the question changes to what would be the fastest for him... I guess actually learning 2k mid plays.
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ded thred

I offered Beesa some food to teach me to last hit earlier but he woudln't take it :( help guys
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>>152131637
>Zeus spamming pure damage chain lightning

pls no
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>>152131661
>If you're playing support, you are *decreasing* the amount of lottery tickets you're using, even if your skill has increased.
Wrong. If your team needs a support and you know it will cause issues if you don't assume the role, going carry worsens your odds.
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Watching BSJ trying to figure out how to remove the "activate windows" text. is pretty funny.

Why doesn't he just activate it I wonder.
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>>152131710
Did you miss the part where the dmg is reduced? All it does it get her spells to bypass BKB and Rain Drops and Magic Immunity. It's the buff Lina and Lesh both deserve, maybe have it tied to their Aghs idk.
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>>152131661
>2k mid roles
>farm creeps
>harass enemy heroes
>get to level 6
>gank and take towers
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Dotards?
>Dotard
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>>152131737
Absolutely true. However, it was implied that the 2k player had free pick between every role.

I guess the answer can boil down to:
>>152129449
>you need to be better than 2k, if you are no better than 2k you cant get out of 2k.
If you really want to go there.
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>>152131973
What is this
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>>152131737
It honestly doesn't at 2k. I've played 2k a lot and I really honestly think I'm about 4.0k now and the truth is this:

I can now pick any carry hero, just jungle, and then win the game by myself.

I can pick a support hero, and I might still go like 3-10-15 because the team cannot make use of any information or technique I give them as a support, any initiations or escapes I give them are also wasted.

2k isn't dota. Real dota doesn't really start until around 3.5k.
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>>152132047
this is the best evidence btw

at one point in this game I was 18-3 with lich. at like fucking 20 minutes into the game. I outleveled the mid storm spirit by FOUR LEVELS during lane phase.

Look at the rest of my teams items, farm, hero damage, tower damage.

Given EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD YOU COULD POSSIBLY EVER HAVE from a support, they responded by *doing nothing*, *farming nothing*, and *killing nobody*. We lost.

Conversely, I could have played lifestealer and jungled from minute 1, never leaving unitl 30 minutes into the game. Then I would've won in a single push, myself.

Players in 2k cannot make use of what supports give them because they do not understand how the game is won and lost.
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>>152130642
>>152130548
>>152130967
its effective damage is still probably about the same as daedalus but it costs 2k more and is an orb effect
you don't drop daedalus when you die either

it just fills a niche for straight damage item and anti-regen item, two things that don't exist much anymore now that mkb, bfury and abyssal got their +damage gimped

lets say you're a PA who wants to get the biggest stifling daggers you can for pickoffs and pokes. Desolator is the most efficient item, but you don't want to stack crits and minibash doesn't stack with crit
so the only option is... rapier?
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>>152132047
>2k shitter opinions
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>>152132047
dota is dota is dota. real dota is just your made up expectations
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>>152132224
>no bkbs against storm

Yea this is 2k alright.
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>>152132224
>half those builds
>those items
Yep..
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>>152132315
why buy a bkb when you can go 0-4-4 jungle jugg (even though there is no core on the safe lane) into brown boots aghs vanguard? no im not kidding whatsoever

he also, late game, 5 slutted jugg, would run up and spin against people. I wish I were fucking joking. He would run up and bladefury them to attack them instead of just hitting them with his 10k dps of items.

That was the game where i hit my monitor with a hammer
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>>152132408
why wouldnt you build a heart on sand king he's a str hero after all

i mean holy fuck this is just unranked and i cratered my unranked mmr to very low, but at some point the system should go "man this lich doesnt belong with these guys"

I think my unranked is like 1500 mmr now so its agony but im just playing it to raise behavior score. 3000 so far!
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>>152131661
you dont play support in 2k, those guys are fucking horrible

t: guy who plays in a team with 2,5k mmr
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>>152132493
>but at some point the system should go "man this lich doesnt belong with these guys"

Yea, we should have complete A.I.s managing abstract dota 2 mmr.
Dude, the mmr system is good, it's always been good, in every game forever it's been the same simple system. And it works.

You just need to play better. Sorry friendo.
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>>152132224
>>152132493
O wait i just noticed this is psg, hahaha
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>>152132587
Yes, it should have AIs managing it. I really hate people who go "it would be kinda hard to make something better, so let's never do that"

Your kind effectively could vanish from the planet and we would all benefit from it.

It ISN'T FUCKING HARD to design an AI that can do things like spot when a player knows they're in danger because there are no enemies on the map, and retreats to avoid being ganked. You absolutely can detect behaviors like that and it is not even challenging.

Some of you just don't understand the scale of computing power that we have in this era. It's fucking insignificant to run an AI analysis on games after they are over and give players plusses and minuses based on things they did.
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>>152132675
who else is here at american, australian, and european shitposting hours
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Who is better for offlane? Undying or centaur? Im thinking cent might be better because he can farm the hardcamp
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>>152132691
I said:
>complete A.I.s
That is, perfect A.I.s. but whatever.

Your entire paragraph is ignorant honestly. If it's so easy, why don't you do it? But before you do that, tell me your supposed easily designed algorithm for
>spot when a player knows they're in danger because there are no enemies on the map
and
>reward player for reacting properly
or
>punish player for not reacting properly
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>>152132924
Cent
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>>152132924
undying is a pretty fucking shit hero without aghs
centaur is a good hero even without aghs
hope this helps anon
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>tfw you did awful during your round of dota 2
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>>152133109
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>>152132941
I didn't say it was easy, I said it wasn't hard.

>produce something in realtime that would take people with math doctorates months

how about you do it? point is it can be done, and *should be done*, because humanity should strive to attack problems and improve things.

Running from a gank? that one's hard. But how about we start with a fucking AI that bans players who walk down mid or relocate into fountain? You can detect those fucking behaviors on a TI83 calculator

Sites like dotabuff already measure last hitting efficiency now, why can't dota integrate things like that into its algorithm? They could do such a better job.

the "New Path" update coming in the fall is going to be Valve's effort at doing this, except they're going the opposite direction: In search of better games, they are doing what CLQ suggested

They are adding a role/game finder where you have to pay to play and are subject to more scrutiny/reports from teammates. You will be banned from the mode permanently for bad behavior. This is "Team Finder MMR", so that's the "new path" you will set out on.
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>>152133224
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>it's a d2g thinks an undergraduate degree at a college or university equates to "studying medicine" episode
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I'm just gonna ask here since I feel like people might know, does anyone know a way to download twitch archived videos?
Twitch down can only do 15 mins, Twitchtools doesnt work anymore and i cant get Jdownloader to work for it
Obviously not my own videos
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>>152133293
come at me bruh i got high end reactions u aint even seen
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>>152130712

what do you think my chances of rubbing sheevers belly is? if i just ask her at an event in a back room or something?
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>people think you're amazing
>they don't realize they have higher MMR and are in VH
>constantly asking you for advice

How much longer can this charade last before they realize im garbage :(
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I don't built Shadow Blade on Slark. Am I retarded?
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>>152133727
>MMR matters

This is from a 7k game of dota.

clips.twitch /lizzarddota2/DistinctLobsterSwiftRage
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>>152133727
pretty sure they are just making fun of you anon
>lets ask the retard for some of his shitty tips, i need a laugh xD
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I don't built Blink Dagger on TA. Am I retarded?
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WHERES ALL THE FUCKING RESHUFFLE DRAMA AT
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>>152133902
In my pants.
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How should I play Morphling as a 2k shitter?
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>>152134054
don't pick heroes that control other units. You will pick morphling and misuse replicate, so you will do nothing with the hero's most important skill. how many times today do I have to tell 2k players not to use heroes that control other units? I mean really its basically the best advice i could give you to win games at 2k. don't intentionally shoot yousrelf in the foot when you already don't make the right decisions in game

play these heroes

Razor, Sniper, Luna, Viper, Weaver, Lina, Necrophos, Queen of Pain, Windrunner
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>>152134054
Mid, kill the enemy mid 100 times and win the game.
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Guess that hero, dotards?
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>highlight that I want offlane
>Say that I want offlane
>Someone still picks an offlaner

why is this a thing?
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>>152134054
either AGI shotgun = EBlade
or STR stun lord
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>>152134279
Arc Warden gone wrong
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>>152134279
Omni
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When does the compendium expire? Think well make it to the last lina quest and let our balls drop one last time?
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>>152134292
thats when I pick what I was going to pick anyway, and just buy a talon instead of a pms+tangos.
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Look at the heroes circled in blue

WHY IS THIS ALLOWED
ALL SHIT HEROES
ALL NEGATED BY TPS

why doesn't icefrog just fucking make tp scroll no longer a universal escape tool for only 50 gold. Simply say its canceled by taking hero damage within 1500 range, or delayed for 3 seconds
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how did people like miracle- and sumail become pros
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>>152134292
>highlight a lane position
>say you want it
>think this means it's yours

why is this a thing?

Anyway, Team Finder is coming.

Go ahead and screenshot this so I can have more PSG bragging rights in 3 months
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>>152134279
shadow shaman
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>>152134279
that's an agi carry. Can't tell which one.
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>>152134516
>lycan kills under 3 seconds
kills what?
towers?
himself?
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>EG is now officially team anime

uh dotatards?
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why is cm such a fucking SLUT
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>Lens of Sealing (6750 gold)
>Mystic Staff + Aether Lens + Recipe (750)
Passively increases spell damage by 10% and cast range of spells by 250.
+250 Mana, +25 Int, +8hp/s
Active, Mutes a target enemy unit for 4 seconds. 150 mana cost 450 (700) cast range. 20 second cooldown

Good? Bad? OP?
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fucking done with valve after they removed coaches from cs. friend of mine on steam was a coach for a big team and just lost his job, fucking life is ruined man. fuck dota too and fuck valve
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>>152134737
>badscythe
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>>152134516
>weaver
>cant kill in under 3 secs

git gud

>deso
>daedalus

literally all you need for anything not tanky

throw in an mkb and butterfly and anything that isnt a wellfed bristleback will go down like a bitch
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>>152134279
Tide.
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>>152134406
Getting warmer

>>152134569
>>152134362
Most of the tower damage I got was with the drow aura.

>>152134626
Nope.
I kinda thought the hero healing would give it away.
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>>152134861
I was going to say dazzle but he should have more hero healing with that much hero damage

it's a very intermediate amount of healing, hard to say without any other items. this one is just too hard, needs another item
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>>152134279
Oracle, I am 100% sure.
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>>152134651
Uh.... ?
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>>152134279
Skeleton King!
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>>152134975
oracle can't do taht much damage while only getting that much gpm

it's gotta be dazzle
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>new item
>vajra
>robe of the magi+staff of wizardry+600 recipe
>16 int 80% mana regen
>passive Quickcast, reduces spell cooldowns by 20 percent and reduces mana cost by 15 percent
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>>152134901
>>152134975
Maybe the rest of the team will give it away? I did all the warding if that means anything. Don't even try to guess the hero of the weirdo with the heart.
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>>152135173
broken.
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>>152134986
>every single dota palyer has an asian girlfriend even if they aren't asian
>every single person i know who works in IT/engineering other than me has an asian girlfriend or wife

seriously what the fuck is it? I really don't get it

ugly
nonwhite
horrible, backwards, insidious cultures that cling on to ancient customs during modern times
brown/purple pussy
no body, no tits no hips no ass generally
choice of brown/black hair and brown/black eyes

i mean seriously?.....why do nerds chase them? they offer nothing
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>>152135225
>passive Conservation reduces mana cost by 15%

there better?
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>>152135227
>brown/purple pussy
>why do nerds chase them? they offer nothing
>pussy
>offer nothing
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>>152135213
okay looks like we got a retard kunkka, a gyrocopter probably, heart guy (omniknight), agi carry..

winter wyvern?
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>>152135280
Now it's worthless.
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>>152135305
......you can also have sex with a white girl who has a pink vagina anon. and a non fucking flat dog face that doesnt require jawline surgery to look what we recognize as human

sorry to any asians in here but yall mongoloid as fuck. looking straight up less evolved. I mean my bad sorry but yall look like some apes rly i mean desu
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>>152135227
>ugly

Nigga theres ugly bitches of all races, you gotta find the qt3.14 ones

>nonwhite

white bitches are shit m8

>horrible, backwards, insidious cultures that cling on to ancient customs during modern times

you sound like a cuck for modern muh strong womyn

>discolored pussy

are you 12?

>tits hips ass

Once again, it varies by girl, but if you really want bitches with grabbables spilling all over, go get yourself a nigress, white bitches have no asses

>hair

blondes are shit to m8

>i mean seriously?.....why do nerds chase them

because they wont bitch about muh soggy knee when you come back from a hard ass day from work and ask for a goddamn sandwhich
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>>152135440
>white bitches have no asses
bruh my girlfriend is 5'11 155 pounds with a 42 inch waist. Look like white beyonce. Except without the ape face.
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>>152135339
active for 100 mana that applies passive in a 1200 radius to all allies
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Holy shit is Waga even unusually autistic even for a swede?
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>tfw you carry your shitstain team as Faceless Void
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>>152135516
>42 inch waist
I really, really, really meant to type 42 inch hips
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>>152135516
you got an exception to the rule. youre retarded if you dont know of the white bitch flat ass normalfag meme
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this kino increased my MMR by 500 points

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-erfXFv4yYw
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>>152135402
This is why all white people should be killed.
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So what is the INT version of Dragon Lance going to be? As in, stat efficient out the ass where heroes like Meepo benefit from heavily.
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>>152135606
it's a stupid fucking meme because guess what white girls discovered the gym

asses are made not born
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>>152135213
Just post the heroes
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Are there any tips or tricks on becoming a dotard?

If so what are those?
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>>152134569
>>152134626
>>152134406
>>152134362
>>152134819
>>152134901
>>152134975
>>152135067
>>152135213
Better luck next time dotards!
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>>152135660
Dragon Lance will be gutted next patch.
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>>152135738
so necro?

wheres your damn dagon
>>
>>152135738
b8
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>>152135738
yeah like i said dude it's impossible to do with the items you showed

there's just no way to determine whatsoever what hero it is. It's clearly someone who does healing and has a nuke. That's all we could tell.

guardian greaves and travels offers nothing to us because if you buy both of those and one other item it could be literally ANY other hero. fun to try though.
>>
fixed

>new item
>vajra
>robe of the magi+staff of wizardry+600 recipe
>16 int 80% mana regen
>passive Spell Amp, increase spell damage by 8%, stacks diminishingly with aether lense
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im a manlet
what should i do
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>>152135985
where high heels
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>tfw no good streams on
>tfw small dick
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>>152134632
lycan is pretty firmly in the "Kills you faster than you can TP away" category
have you seen what he does with just echo+sb?
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>>152135980
How about this

>Whip
>Unit Target
>Range: 350
>Whip any unit to increase its movement speed by 20% for 4 seconds, then slow its movement speed by 25% for 5 seconds
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>>152135818
Yeah I wouldn't have asked the thread if I thought it was guessable. Literally any item build is viable in my skill bracket making it even harder to guess.

>>152135784
Venomancer always brought everyone into scythe kill range, and I was already in my healslut groove, didn't need one.
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>>152136046
what hero is dis
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>>152136025

>bad empowering haste
>gg shit support slowed me down
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Forced 50 is fucking real.
In fact it applies to all matches played in Dota 2, not just the ladder.
How did it take us so long to realize it?
This is why teams that dominate rest of the season fail at TI.
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>>152136087
ane narumono by facedesk
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>>152136087
Pugna maybe, she gives the succ.
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>>152136020
what software and settings do you use to make your webums, mine don't look that good

i also don't zoom and pan mine though they're fullscreen
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>>152135660
atos
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>>152130712
>I will never breed Sheever
Feels so bad bros
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>>152136186

thanks for the fap anon

>checked mal
>ecchi horror romance supernatural
>horror

wait wut
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>>152136186
Facedesk is the scanlation group, the actual artist has a non-h manga too.
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>>152136253
theres a manga and a hentai
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>>152136025
How about this

>Grappling Hook
>Iron Talon (500) + Force Staff (2225) + Recipe (700)
>+40% (15%) damage to creeps
>+3 Armor
>+10 Int
>+5 HP/s regen

Active Ability: Lasso
Triple function ability depending on target.

>Self Target: forces forward 600 distance

>Ally or Enemy: attachs with a rope with 600 range, and you are pulled with the target if they move more than 600 range away from you for 6 seconds. Breaks if they move more than 1000 range away. Does not interfere with enemy movement at all, just pulls YOU to them. You can use the item a second time to break the rope

>Creep, Tree or Ward: same quell as iron talon. If used on enemy creep, both quells and lassos that target
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>>152136151
surprise it's actually in the fucking game

just not enabled
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>>152136297
oh right facedesk was what i remembered first
good thing im here or i'd be crucified
>>
how do you buff lc, d2g?
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>>152136303
gonna need source on that

no really
>>
>>152136452
release don quixote themed arcana
duel can now target towers
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>>152136452

she doesnt need any

shes a lock down hero that can man fight everything if shes sufficiently farmed so long as theres not many disables and stuns
>>
How the fuck did this guy get to 5k by spamming pudge?
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/122325774
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"Bow to me mortal!" Above you, the demon known as Underlord roars in his triumph over you, while stepping forward, his towering form blocking all light. What was once clean air is overwhelmed by his tainted musk, a heady scent that reminds you of burning wood as it drifts into your mind, clouding your judgement. The head of his cock slaps against your cheek as he grinds his length into you, and as his mast hardens, he roars "From now on, you are a toy for me."
His cock is akin to a horse's, its spongy head widening as he ruts it down over you, his length hardening and growing longer. Soon he's fully erect, rutting his entire length over your abdomen, smearing his musk into you, marking you as his all while pleasuring himself on your body. And as he grows more aroused, his thrusting quickens, soon making his overly large package slap against your head. The flesh of his ballsack is soft as a pillow, but with it so close you can hear it rumbling full of tainted cum, the orbs inside squelching as it packs his sack full of jism.
"This is your life now slave, and soon this cock will find a home inside of you!" With another roar of triumph, he slams his cock down, grinding his enomous length into you with a final rut. His incredibly large package covers your face, forcing you to breathe in his musk at its source, and to feel the throbbing of not just his package pumping out his thick cum, but the shuddering of his huge cock as he grinds down into you. Thump. Thump. Thump. Each burst from his length makes an audible landing when it hits the dirt, his jism even obvious from your trapped state being incredibly thick and packed with protein, perfect for feeding a slut with nothing but dick-juice. Slowly, the sack pressed down firmly onto your face softens, the demon's orgasm dying off, but as that happens he settles down on top of you. And with a yawn, the demonic lord goes to sleep, leaving you trapped under his superbly musky cock, unaware and uncaring about your erection.
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>>152136608
Obviously a good Pudge
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>>152136516
it was added in 6.83 i think, can't find it.
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>>152136452
>>152136597
but hey, if you really want a buff, increase her str gain so she has 2550 hp by level 25
maybe increase base armor by 2 as well
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>>152136608
>http://www.dotabuff.com/players/122325774
The same way you climb on any hero, consistently win more games than you lose. He's good enough at pudge to win games, what is there to understand?
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>>152136631
this shit is way too funny, better than the LC one for sure
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>>152136608
You overestimate 5k, I also got there by picking whatever the fuck.
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>>152136608
Pudge is a really good hero in hands of someone who knows whats he doing
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>>152136676
Pudge is a shit hero senpai
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>>152136608
hook enemy and win
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>>152136718
Pudge is ok if your team is winning the ward wars.
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>>152136718
And he's demonstrably good enough at pudge to win with him more often than he loses, how is this hard to understand?
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>>152136713

ive been playing him recently

i swear to god i miss every hook where im chasing bitches for any longer than 3 seconds. a sudden left or right turn right before i hook shot where previously they where going straight

are these niggas fucking psychic
>>
What is the objectively best role to main like an autist to grind MMR?

(t. 3.5k MMR)
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>>152136713
>playing on us east one day
>russian name
>picks pudge instantly
>oh fucking god seriously? didn't this end like 2 years ago?
>hooks like 3 fucking enemies in the entire game
>HOOKS EVERY TEAMMATE OUT OF TROUBLE EVERY TIME IN THE GAME
>REPEATEDLY
>LIKE 4000 FUCKING TIMES
>THIS PUDGE BETTER THAN A COMBINED OMNI DAZZLE WYVERN, NOBODY EVER DIES
>COMPLETELY SHIT STOMP THE ENEMY TEAM INTO DUST WITH OUR AWESOME GUARDIAN RUSSIAN PUDGE
>AGREE TO GIVE HIM 4 FUCKING COMMENDS FROM THE WHOLE TEAM
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>>152136794
They are just better than you
>>
>bulldong single handedly keeping dota alive on twitch
god bless him
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>>152136818
autistic push machine
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>>152136854
ive gotten crazy hooks and good play before

its just that those chase hooks always get me. fucking always. I dont get how pudges get those hooks
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>>152133828
>another stomp
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>>152136597
she doesnt do anything past 30 mins in a 5k+ game

subhuman mmr need not apply
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when will 3 solar crest huskar be good again lads
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>>152136995
when we can orb walk ghost scepter again
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>wow
>lol
>famous games of their decade
UHM?

dotardS?

defend this?

why cant u have good acronym?
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>>152136675
dogshit

shes really weak in teamfights
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>>152137029
fugg, how long ago was that changed
was that before or after huskar got it changed from attack speed/damage to attack speed/magic resist
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>>152136908
You just need to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
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Just so I know for when he gets rish picked every game in 5 days, what are some strong counters to underlord?
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>>152137102
is "uhh dotards??"
the best meme yet?
>>
>sleep
>wake up

uhh dotards?
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>>152137246
>>
>9 game loss streak
>win a game
>9 game loss streak again

what the fuck am I doing wrong?
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>>152137228
Necrolyte for starters.
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@152137102
>Dota is not an acronym
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>>152137380
you're tilting
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>>152137246
FREE.... DAMAGE?

THATS RIGHT FREE
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>it's a there are people on d2g who have never had sex episode
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>>152137389
undying
>>
PA nerf when?
>>
>>152137413
Why bother. Eventually when Im 28 some desperate cutie will want to marry me.
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>>152137389
>>
>>152136020
Mind if i steal this lycan build friend?
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>>152137389
7% would mean that hero has been played in at least 100 matches because 7 is a prime number

so FUCK OFF
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>>152137560
remember friend
echo phase shadow blade desolator bkb/basher
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>>152137604
got it boss, thanks senpai
>>
>wake up
>no shuffle

dotards?
>>
best illusions for sd to conjure?
>>
>>152137793
centaur with 6 hearts
>>
>>152137584
imprssive use of suppposedly useless shit we learned in school
>>
>>152137793
crit item holder
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>>152136020
NOOOOO
ayayaya

do not listen to this nebbish schmutzik and his nonsense kibitzing~
be good goyim and keep buying the vlads medallion and ac on lycan
yes yes good goy
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the guy with the knife is me
the guy on the ground is dota
fuck dota
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>>152138003
>hes a nigger
lol
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>>152138003
what the fuck is happening in that show now
>>
>>152138003
fuck that reminds me
I need to catch up on mister robotto-san

thanks anon
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>>152138053
are we doing this
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>>152138150
i dont have any more dildo pictures, sorry
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>>152137201
after, it was stronger because of it
you got like 96% magic resist and 40% magic weakness
also physical immunity and shit
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>people actually defend valve matchmaking
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>>152138674
>feed
>blog about it
>blame valve for being shit
Welcome to the gulag friend.
>>
>>152138674
maybe l2p (learn 2 play)
>>
>dota threads on /v/ are more alive than this
kill yourselves fags
>>
>>152138845
defend this dotards
>>
>>152138674
>SnY on naga siren
he deserved all those losses
>>
>>152138674
>dagon et
>15 deaths on jakiro
>midas warlock
>midas nyx
>that kda on sk
>picking enigma
>losing with scepter mirana
>iron talon shadow fiend
>sange&yasha is better than manta on naga
>quelling blade luna
>probably used bloodstone by mistake on zeus

Yeah, you pretty much deserve to be where you are.
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>>152138881
fuck you retard, suck a dicng dong ming mong ching chong.
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It's a shame what's become of our region, and the generation that came after me is even more lost than mine and in the end people can't distinguish black from white, because they live in their "autistic imaginary little world"

It's a shame to realize it what was once the strongest region has now become a dumpster, in which people don't even want to get along with each other because CIS is children and unprofessionalism.

And today, it's sickening to even talk to old friends/teammates

One gets the impression that the people I knew and who had been intelligent have been so degraded that it's fucking absurd, sorry but face that shit as it is.

It makes me feel sick, what i heard, this two years was the most disgusting in my life and i still keep hearing this bullshit

I hope, my words are wrong, but in real world these are facts, which i have to face. Go fuck yourselves all together

Until people in this dumpster realise what is true responsibility and what is professional attitude, there will be nothing here

t. Funn1k twitter
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>>152138724
>>152138841
this is iceiceice account and pic is from reddit
you guys got baited
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>>152139042
hahahah

t. solo gaymur
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>>152139059
i want to suck her nipples and then play with her boobs for hours. Then doggy fuck her till i premature ejaculate and leave her unsatisfied.
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>>152139059
who is that semen demon
>>
>>152139010
whats wrong with iron talon on shadow fiend or luna?
they're both top tier junglers in 6.88
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>>152139069
well maybe he should get good and win some games?
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>>152139162
Funn1k
>>
>>152138309
kek
>>
Guys, i hate cheering for communist. When will western team fuck the ching chong?
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>>152139172
>afk farm in jungle
>don't gang
>your team is struggling
>ffs you shits just hang on I almost have my yasha
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>>152139192
he said china mm is cancer so he will become the cancer
>>
Aghs+Mjollnir+Dragon lance drow or shadow blade>dragon lance> some other shit?

what gets me online earlier?
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>>152139414
well hes chinese so he will probably become some sort of cancer
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>>152139482
blink force pike.

don't be an idiot and build damage and not mobility on the hero who does the most damage of anyone in the game by default. All drow needs in fights is to survive. She pretty much automatically does all teh damage she needs and everyone building damage on her is wrong forever.
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Why the FUCK do my item hotkeys retain the default keys when I change them here?

Whenever I press V / X / Z / N etc. I use my items for no reason.
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>>152139569
>on the hero who does the most damage of anyone in the game by default
Chaos Knight says hello?

Hello?
>>
how am I supposed to practice/learn the game when im level 2 getting placed against people in all pick that are all 5k+ mmr where are all the level 2 rats like me that are shit at the game
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>Ichirukifags
>ashfags
>muh shipping
>muh pokemon league
>chinks win ti6
THE RIDE NEVER FUCKING ENDS
>>
>2k ally randoms arc warded
NotLikeThis
>>
Ash Ketchum confirmed for Digital Chaos.
>>
how do i build slardar for dmg
>>
>>152139857
rush a ring of repick
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>>152139725
Ash is a jobber. Just like Arteezy!
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>>152139842
I STAYED UP TILL 7 AM TO WATCH HIM JOB USING A WATER TYPE POKEMON TI A FUCKING CHARIZARD
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>>152139958
>>152139968
>>152139842
what are you guys watching
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>>152139857
boots,hotd,armlet,blink/shadowblade,mkb/crit,ac
swap hotd or armlet to a bkb if you absolutely need it
>>
>>152140075
The International Pokemon League 2016. Where Ash fucks up in the Finals!
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how do you play solo support vs invis and not be poor all game
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>>152140163
>>152139958
>>152139842
>>152139725
>pocket monsters
>in the 21st century
>>
have we talked about this yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhIVJdp4u48
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>>152140163
link?
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>>152140281
Doesn't stop /a/ and /vp/ from being literally set on fire.
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>>152140302
We never asked for this
>>
>>152140385
How appropriate, with a Charizard beating edgefrog

I swear the type chart is reversed here, Greninja shitstomps a Sceptile and then gets bodied by a Charizard. Everything is backwards.
>>
guys, you didn't hear this from me but

EG.Puppey and Secret.PPD


insiderbro out
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>>152140552
He doesn't even care about losing anymore. It's like he's become EE. Probably enjoys losing now.
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>>152140552
pls post link
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>>152121502
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>>152140610
>rtz.png
>>
>player has over 7500 hours played of dota 2
>6000 ranked matches
>still 2k
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>>152140924
>player has more than 2k hours
He already lost at life..
>>
>play cm
>get one/two shotted by everyone

why is cm so fragile and why does it feel so good to get dominated
>>
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/4ya8vv/more_burningrotk_casting_translations/

Tell me /d2g/ why are our casters so shit in comparison to translated chink banter
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>>152140924
>tfw don't even have 1k hours in the dota jew yet
Just kill my shit up.
>>
>>152141101


R:what do you think miracle is getting next?
B:Obviously skadi. (Clicks on miracle, sees skadi on quick buy) See, only a god knows the mind of another god and I'm closest to 9k's level.
R:I thought you're not even 8k mmr? Thought closest is IG.V.Yuno?
B:I'm talking about between the people currently sitting here.
R:There are only 2 of us sitting here.
B:Exactly

R:This Moo timbersaw didn't even think of using chain when he got glimpsed back.. caused them a rax
B:Wow, how come you're suddenly so smart when you're watching instead of playing?

My sides. I just want Dendi and Puppey to retire or some duo that played long together to retire and banter the fuck out of casts
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Why's he so fucking shit?
>>
roster change yet?
>>
>>152141101

R:Chat is asking B-god, what's it like to play with ROTK without soundproof booths? Let me tell you, happy/content as a teammate, shaking with fear as an opponent.
B:Nah, happier as opponent. Enemy solo offlaner is feeding.

MY FUCKING SIDES
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>>152141101
I want more bantz and less play-by-play casts
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>>152141221
he's good sniper

he has damage, but no escape. he's an easy gank, and there's plenty of heroes that completely shit on him
>>
Who is the Ash Ketchum of Dotards 2
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>>152129031
Ember spirit mid, that's how I got out of my 2k, nearly boogaproof.


You start with a wraith band, a tango and you go mid. You max flame guard and chains, you get bottle and every time rune is about to spawn you flame guard the creep wave. You can go aggressive on enemy when u are lvl 4, people won't see it coming. Then u get aquila for better push and qb and then you rush traves. Maybe gank with haste dd or invis, but otherwise your priority is travels. When you get them you turn into splitushing nigger, put remenant mid, tp to other lane, push untill enemy appears, remenant back to mid and push it. Rinse and repeat, unless they have lc or es with blink you are not dying, 0 cast time ult. Then you go BF or drum if you really need hp and your team is stomping. Then you get daedalus and ether blink if you are wining or second bf if you are defending. Also, if you have at least bf you are nightmare to def highround against as 2k wont get any sustain.
>>
>>152141286
fear
>>
>>152139143
haha i would would do that but keep fucking haha
>>
>>152141286
puppey
>>
>>152114670
get midas into necro, arc warden is super strong in mid so you will always be able to farm up midas and from there necro. double necro is retarded and probably the reason why he is not in cm yet. from necro u can chose to go for like mjollnir manta deadulus stuff you know. or you can be cool and go dagon e-blade
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>>152141558
i heard shadow blade is good
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um Dotards?
>>
>>152141558
necro is an old meme and real players go maelstrom/blink/sb first

it just offers splitpush, early tower damage and free gold to the enemy. does nothing after 35 mins usually. only get if you're balling and want to finish inside 30 mins
>>
when do I get my points for correct predictions and shit ?
>>
how the fuck did a water typed pokemon lose to a FIRE TYPE

how WEAK can you be???????????

its like AM losing to a leshrac
>>
>>152141690
memes. dam i miss rapier :D
>>
>>152141662
Hold on a second, i recognize that rabbit.
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How do we buff the worst hero in the entire game as confirmed by TI6?
>>
>>152141815
rapier was gay desu. I stopped using it in 80% of my games and my winrate didn't drop significantly

pretty much a clutch for bad arc players
>>
>>152141909
wolves now do seige damage
>>
>after months of only unranked games decide to play rankeds again
>first game
>enemy last picks huskar
>my mid zeus has 7 deaths pre 10min vs that huskar
>he thrones us at 18min

ye epic now i remember why i dont play rankeds at low 5k aka account buyer city
>>
Speaking as someone at 5.6k mmr, if you can't climb to at least 5k it's because you belong where you're at.

I've played on my friends 3.8k mmr account and at that level I can easily win 9 out of every 10 games by simply being better than everyone else in the game. There is no 'forced 50'. If you're good you will win. You don't even have to abuse FoTM META picks either. I was winning games on that account by doing garbage like Luna jungle.

If you're at 3k you have only yourself to blame.
>>
>>152141286
JIMMY """DeMoN" Ho

>Has considerable skill and charm
>Is a meme
>Fucks up a lot
>Just like Ash, Jimmy looked like he had a shot at TI with TNC, but gets kekd by DC anyway
>>
How do I go on gulagites? My life just keeps getting worse and worse
>>
>>152142031
Like what are you supposed to do at 5k+? I get constantly matched with and agianst 4ks because how matchmaking works. This just feels dumb and counter intuitive

Do I just try to build a proteam now and focus on competetive dota?
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>>152142031
I'll never understans account buying, seriously, the only person who cares about your MMR is yourself
>>
What decides low/normal/high skill on dotabuff? Just mmr?
>>
>>152142104
thanks for the post, captain obvious
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>>152141909
return the wolf crit
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>tfw STILL no roster changes

I'm getting desperate here senpaitachi, dunno how much long I can hold out for
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>>152115903
"It's not called being a whore, it's cosplay!"
>>
Necronomicon Archer and Warrior

Decreased/experience bounty from 100/150/200.on each level to 25/45/60

fixed?
>>
the merkel poster should be shitposting by now

do you think he finally khs after eg lost lol
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>>152142525
Welcome back to the everyone build necrobook meta, bane of supports everywhere.
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>>152127604
>make PA viable once again
is she not?
>>
>>152142609
?
that was way back when

now supports can get away with so much op shit but carries cant?
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>>152142256
Resolut1on is pretty much confirmed to move to NaVi
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSydm6saBbI

Reminder
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The cycle of Hinata is over, the Cycle of Orihime started yesterday.
Only bad things to come.
PS. I will be buffed next patch due to this
>>
>>152134516

>nightstalker

Just run from him. If he voids you, tp immediately and laugh.
>>
>>152143223
>run from him during night where he would be chasing you
>>
>want to enjoy some doto with pals
>enemies pick shit like slark,ember,timber always
>end up not having fun

this is why I just rather watch dota than play it
>>
>>152142720
>supports are op

love this meme

its funny actually, i remember how everyone went on about lion being OP and he was barely picked for TI6.
>>
>>152143319
>ember is broken
just stun him like lmao
>>
>>152143501
>supports are balanced
>>
>Arc warden
Just how the fuck do you stop this madman on lane? Its fucking impossible
>>
>>152138087
In a word?Kino.
>>
>>152143568
you stun him
>>
>>152143568
You stand next to your ally/summoned unit and he becomes a slightly tanky ranged creep
>>
>>152143568
dont let him hit level 6
>>
>>152142745
Is resolut1on the S1mple of dota 2?
>>
>>152129582
You can support, but there is a few catches:
1. If you can't farm you can't go over 2k

2. If you can't salvage team fights you can't go over 2k

3. You need to understand WHY your Carry ca never win the game, and then salvage that

4. If you can't gank or rotate with TP scrolls, you will never go over 2k

5. If you can't itemize, playing support is nearly impossible. Especially when its one of those games where getting a Mek is the least significant item choice

6. If you are playing hard support, you need to farm. A lot. Because otherwise you end up with no gold and no items. And without items, winning games is hard.
>>
>>152143883
Reso is the Reso of DOTA2.
>>
>>152131661
At 2k it might be faster to just pick a Jungler, and try for a Radiance rush.
>>
>no pokemon hero

uhhhh
dotards?
>>
>>152144098
winter wyvern is basically articuno
>>
>>152143568
ld

best counter

slark best for retards like u
>>
>>152144137
>wyvern is a bird
?
>>
Anyone else report all techies players? It makes me feel so good knowing im saving thousands of players of potential techie games.
>>
>>152144287
Techies is a 5k+ hero. He's legitimately good in the right hands.
>>
>>152144098
>Pokemon dota
STARRING
>URSAring
>NEED TO BREED articuno
>MOLTRES as phoenix
>Haunter as enigma
>Magneton/electrodes as Techies
>Gardevoir (male) as Templar Assassin
>Geodude/Graveler/Golem as Tiny
>>
>>152144363
Thats irrelevant. I am simply saving people of having to deal with a dota match that involves the hero techies, whether theyre good or bad.
>>
i just watched the barny + clq game and it just about describes how most games feel

basically kill me and fuck this game
>>
>>152144432
more like wasting a report
>>
>>152144098
Monkey King is practically infernape.
>>
pokeguys..

is exyz 38 sub out yet?
>>
>>152144363
techies is literally worthless after they nerfed everything, by far the shittiest hero in the entire game

t. person with 200 techies game and 60% win rate between 4-5k
>>
>LoL Fnatic
>Eurokeks

>DotA Fnatic
>Malayshits

Hmmm.. Dotards?
>>
>>152144643
is LoL still a thing
>>
>>152144643
>LoL NA scene
>In flames

>Dota NA scene
>In flames
>>
>>152144642
>the shittiest hero in the entire game

That would be Visage
>>
>>152144643
but dota fnatic is uk
>>
>>152144786
visage feeds far less gold and no experience and is able to at least deal some damage in a fight instantly
>>
>>152144642
>tfw we will never get 6.84 techies back

I miss my venge/cm/bane/shadow demon/any setup support + techies lanes
>>
>>152144684
It's dying, really
Overwatch is the next LoL
>>
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>>
>>152144905
Riot is comically incompetent. It's baffling really.
>>
>>152144975
Pretty much, I actually have no idea how they lasted so long
>>
>>152144870
>>152144870
mines are worth like what... 10 gold? And remote mines can be exploded when you know they're going to be killed anyway.

Killing 2 of visages birds is probably more gold than you get from killing mines in a typical techies games.
>>
>>152144905
Please let over meme die! It's been run over by Undertale faggots, Bronies and Furries ( which isn't mutually exclusive)
>>
>>152145054
compared to release dota 2 lol ran on anything, not because it was well optimized, but because there were like 2 particles in the whole game
>>
>>152144975
Same can be said about Blizzard desu.
>>
>>152145216
they just migrated to another mmo bandwagon game. These people need to be contained somewhere.
>>
>>152144642
>60% win rate
>good
I've no problem winning with the hero. He is just situational. Techies is a top tier meme pick when comboed with Tiny or Magnus.
>>
>>152145114
how often are you gonna have your birds die without resummoning them? for techies the question is how many red mines are you going to place?

>>152145513
i rounded down to be reasonable, but currently techies is by no means "situational", picking him even with magnus or tiny or tuskarr or earth spirit is still garbage
>>
>>152145770
2 birds dying over the course of a visage game is rather typical. Sometimes more, sometimes less, but being worth 100 gold each I'd wager that Visage gives away more gold than Techies does in most games.
>>
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>>152144643
>>
>about to hit 4k
>forced to play support
>never practice support
>lose as a result
the eternal struggle
>>
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Why aren't you playing Free Wins: The Champeen
>>
what if
>FREE courier at start
>tp scrolls now 25 gold
>wards 50
>>
>>152146214
>unranked
>>
>>152146214
>Unranked
I hate nonames so fucking much
>>
>>152146214
I don't have dota2 installed. I deleted it once I got frustrated at playing alone.
>>
Anyone got a picture of "The King" at TI?
>>
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>>152146214
>unranked
>>
>>152146214
i am so bad at micro i died to neutrals in my only Enigma game
twice
>>
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>>152146302
>>
>>152146214
i dont play this game anymore
>>
>>152146258
>>152146259
>>152146302
>rankedbabs coming out of the woodwork again
post your imaginary korean mmo number fuckboys
>>
>>152146214
Anon you fucked up
You could have gotten 500 MMR from that page alone
>>
>>152146214
>PLAYING
>>
>>152146225
honestly just the cour would be good
>>
Instead of free courier there should be a third courier upgrade.

Something like a fighter jet that could use items
>>
>>152146624
I don't play mobashit.
>>
>>152146225
can we have like sub 5k mmr filter

retarded shit fucking baddies keep posting this garbo
>>
>>152146225
I like the free courier idea, up the flying courier cost to 200 again and we're good.
>>
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>>152147193
>I don't play [mobashit]
>Still browses /d2g/
Are you a cuckold?
>>
>>152147259
I'm bored at work desu senpai
>>
>>152147217
>hurr durr we should balance the game around the top 10% x-DD--DDD
fuck off faggot
>>
>>152147329
t. baddie
>>
>>152147329
They actualy balance the game around 90 players, 90 players at TI.

You are retarded
>>
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>>152147259
I don't play neither, but I like fanarts.
And I am bored at work too.
>>
>>152147329
>implying 98% of the playerbase didn't play 1 game and quit, meaning that 1% which is 50% is above 5k mmr
>>
so whats underlord's best level one spell
>>
>>152147793
>>152147793
>>152147793
>>152147793

NEW MEMES
>>
>>152130015
Shut up w33
>>
Is Chen any good in pubs? I am really sick of just supporting but isn't Chen a jungler? A friend of mine said Chen is good in pro games because pros know how to band use of space provided by Chen. In pubs, people don't utilize this space so Chen just gets shit on.

Red pill me on Chen.
>>
>>152143923
>If u don't play dota while playing dota u will lose
Wew lad
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