/wowsg/ - World of Warships Admiral

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Why are wehraboos sop but angry all the time?

first for /wtg/-refugees

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Reminder that NA is the best server

>>152058249
Something along the lines of
>Rodney was inaccurate. Only superior German guns were accurate
>Bismarck was never penetrated
>all facts are propaganda
>Bismarck was only ever scuttled

Then more obligatory naziboos saying retarded shit then pretending they never said it.

>>152058251
Tfw you were part of the first wave, long before KOTS was announced.

>>152058249

>>152058741
Ok Mako.
You're not British but keep pretending you are.

>>152059018
don't you every fucking mumble at me again luger, my kid

>>152058559
>one post saying that a specific hit doesn't make a gun great
>this is interpreted as claim that Rodney only ever hit Bismarck with a single shell
Honestly, I have no clue how you can arrive at that conclusion.

If any of the asshurt British shitposters had cared to read teh navweaps link, they might have understood what that post was implying, b ut they went into full damage control mode and started chanting 'wehraboo'.

>>152059175
>teh
>my opinions are facts
>Germans were far superior in every aspect
this place has more naziboos that /wtg/

>its a repeat of the RN vs KM shitflinging constest

>Muh naziboo
>Muh bong
>Neverending euro autism

To be fair, both your populations deserve to get replaced by muslims

t burger

Kreigsmarine was a mistake.

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>>152059175
>teh

>>152058785
>Rodney was inaccurate.
This was actually shown to be an accurate statement with a link to navweaps.

>Only superior German guns were accurate
Where did anyone say anything about German guns?

>all facts are propaganda
The only actual fact I saw was the navweaps link, but it figures that the Brits would call that propaganda.
Probably because it's from an American website, those rebellios colonial rascals.

>Bismarck was only ever scuttled
Which is something that had been confirmed by the people who were on board of that ship, but maybe that doesn't count for some other funny reason.

>>152059598
the feeling is mutual. i hope yellowstone wipes you off this planet

So, opinion on the new BB line?

>>152059706
:^) >>152058741

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>>152058103
do you think the Neptune will be good?

>>152059303
>my opinions
>navweaps link
Are you retarded?

>>152059749
We do at least have a chance it won't happen in the next 50 years :^)

>>152059706
Britcucks are eternally butthurt that the Germans skill secured their kill.

>>152059764

Everything but the t10 is good.

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>falling for Nelsonposter's bait

Why do you guys keep doing this?

>>152059303
Nah uh never happened did you see my link http://www.navweaps.com/

>>152059706
>Why do you call me a naziboo
>it is true the Bismarck was scuttled. it was never damaged from the fight

When you write, spell and act like a retard; people stop caring. It's also sad that you spend your time trying to E-defend the HONOUR of the kreigsmarine because you can't accept the fact the Bismarck was sunk by an older ship. Just stop replying or go find some Wehraboo forum to jerk it on privately because to be honest; most people on here don't give a fuck about what you say

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>>152059903
t. jose

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>>152059749
>literally the only hope the rest of the world has for a chance to come close to America is if half of it literally explodes
>mfw

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>>152059706
The Bismarck would've sunk anyway, the scuttling just hurried it along.

>>152060034
honestly this

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>>152059303
>>152059686
You made a grammar error I see, I no longer have to come up with an argument yay!

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>>152059824
>muh superior RN skill, proven at trafalgar
>we sunk the biscuit n shit
>US supplies were meaningless
are you for real

>>152060034
where did he say it was never damage from the fight? do you have some problems with your eyes?

>>152059968
>>152059764
T7 is okay, T8 is pretty good, T9 is passable, T10 can be shot from spawn on island

everything in between is mediocre or hard to use

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>>152059970
the irony is this started without me. small dicked wehraboos are this autistic and will argue over me making an unrelated funpost

>>152059706
>rodney was inaccurate

Read you own fucking source

>During the action, Rodney expended 375 rounds of ammunition spread by gun as follows AL (36) AC (46) AR (22), BL (45), BC (44) BR (52), XL (44), XC (42), XR (44). In these, the first letter is the turret and the second identifies the left, center or right gun.

>Rodney and KGV both scored around 40 heavy hits each for a total of 80. The balance of the reported "300 - 400 hits" are 8 inch, 6 inch and 5.25 inch. KGV fired 660 5.25 inch shots, Rodney 716 6 inch, Norfolk, 527 8 inch and Dorsetshire 254 8 inch.

YES VERY INACCURATE. VERY VERY INACCURATE

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USN > all

>>152060209
you dont have any rights to begin with nelsonposter. naziboos are actually above you

>>152060180
>9gag image
wanna know how I know you're a pathetic wehraboo :^)

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>>152060179
>Typo
>A grammar error

>>152060335
sounds like some of you sluts need to post ur stats kid

>mfw i recognize this hypershitposting from /wtg/
FUCK OFF TRIAHX

Naziboos

>"READ MY SOURCE IT PROVES YOU WRONG"
>read the actual sources
>rodney landed most of the shots it fired
>"NO READ MY SOURCE THE RODNEY NEVER LANDED A SINGLE HIT"
?????????????

No wonder Germans can't win wars if they are this retarded

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>>152058785
>Rodney was Inaccurate
i dont know about that, but i do know they couldn't elevate her guns past 30 degrees because the shockwave would blow out all the windows in the superstructure

>Bismarck was never penetrated
i dont remember reading up on any confirmed hits by the Price of Wales or the Rodney. i do remember a swordfish torpedo smacking the Bismarck's rudder and forcing the crew to scuttle

>all facts are propaganda
thats the nice thing about history, imo
nothing is concrete. maybe one day we'll find the diary of a Rodney gunner who claims to have hit the bismarck, maybe not. But all historical truths are open to debate

>Bismarck was only ever scuttled
what would you call it?

>>152060463
Namedrop op succeeded.
ts aspies out.

>>152060203
>hard to use
This is why raptor skipped it then

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>>152060463

Ho ho~
Explain further~

>>152060496
>the bismarck was scuttled because of rudder damage
>not because it had no functioning turrets
>no bridge
>hundreds of holes in it's sides
>was on fire
>holes in it's dead

yeah, I'm sure it was scuttled only because of rudder damage. Next you'll be saying that it could have sailed to port if it wanted to

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Refer Nelsonfag as Snoozing_Mako for that is who he is.

>>152060602
>scottish teeb
>autism
>has down syndrom
>believes in chemtrails
>sucks in every game he plays

>>152060741
go back to /wtg/ you autist holy fuck

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>>152060741

Thanks.

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>>152060496
>out all the windows in the superstructure
nah that was fixed pretty early on rodney with metal plates welded ender the windows that brocked upward blast. that was also only if firing as far backward as the guns could traverse
>i do remember a swordfish torpedo smacking the Bismarck's rudder and forcing the crew to scuttle
unfortunately for your recolection rodey also hit bisco with a torpedo and several shells below the water line. also the swordfish hit alone wasn't enough
>what would you call it?
considrering most historians agree that the vast majority of her crew was dead and she was sinking and would have sunk within 2 or so hours in deep water. I would call her um...sunk

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>mfw /wtg/ shitposters have displaced anu as the boogeyman of choice

>>152060848
NO THE BISMARCK WASN'T EVEN DAMAGE FROM THE FIGHT IT COULD HAVE SAILED BACK TO GERMANY IF IT WANTED

THE GERMANS ONLY SUNK IT BECAUSE THEY FELT BAD FOR THE BRITISH

>>152060496

Prince of Wales hit Bisko before Furious' bombers made their run

Ark Royal's bombers were the ones who hit her rudder later on and left her easy prey for Rodney and KGV

>>152060829
kys triahx

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>>152060664
"Bismarck was sunk by the combined effects of shellfire, torpedo hits and deliberate scuttling" - Wikipedia, Last Battle of the battleship Bismarck

huh, guess i was wrong about the whole scuttled only because of rudder damage bit

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>>152060496
>Despite the technical faults in the main battery, Prince of Wales scored three hits on Bismarck in the engagement. The first struck her in the forecastle above the waterline but low enough to allow the crashing waves to enter the hull. The second shell struck below the armoured belt and exploded on contact with the torpedo bulkhead completely flooding a turbo-generator room and partially flooding an adjacent boiler room.[65] The third shell passed through one of the boats carried aboard the ship and then went through the floatplane catapult without exploding.[66]

You do realize pretending to be a retard still makes you a retard.

>>152060829
/wtg/ is already here
you can't stop the us
you will sit back and allow /wtg/ inflitration, /wtg/ indoctrination, /wtg/ subversion and the international /wtg/ conspiracy
soon, you'll be just like us

>>152060943
We have come full circle then

>>152060943
Autistmati is still blaming his downs syndrome on whatever scapegoat/boogeyman he can find though.

>>152061054
yeah

it kind of had no turrets, a bridge and massing hundreds of pieces of it's side

>>152060034
>people stop caring
Apparently not.

The British become too upset whenever facts are shown that chalenge their opinion, and can't actually discuss without chanting 'wehraboo' whenever they would have to admit that the RN was mostly a shitshow in the 20th century, specifically following WW1 and in the interwar years.

I don't have to defend anything, nor is any of this meant to defend anything, and it was the (presumably) British who dragged the 'it sunk the Bismarck' argument into the other thread and started shouting 'but we won agaisnt the evil kreigsmarine'.

I don't give a fuck, Bismarck was a rather badly designed ship without a clear mission or purpose, and beating the Kriegsmarine was nothing that anyone should even have to write home about.

But the British really appear to be like the Russians in this regard: They will believe whatever their own propaganda has been shoting off teh rooftops for the past 70 years, and it has to be true, and anyone who threatesns this opinion must obviously be a nazi and wehraboo etc.

It's baffling, really.

But I get the hint. You go on believing what you learned in Sink the Bismarck, and I'll go on reading after action reports.

Why is Mako in love with Nelson so much he will shitpost about it?

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Still my favorite damage report pic tbqh

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>>152061153
IF ONLY WE HAD SOME KIND OF WALL LIKE STRUCTURE TO KEEP THEM OUT, THIS NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED

>>152061178
Who will he blame next? Crab people?

>>152061182
>it was a shitshow

Yes, it was so bad it beat the kreigsmarine. If the RN was a shitshow, what does that make the kreigsmarine?

>>152061181
i thought the crew placed charges on her keel to make sure she sunk because the engineers weren't sure if she would sink before the RN got to her

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>>152061245
All shitposting aside, it's impressive that given all that damage she sustained she managed to stayed afloat for as long as she did.

>>152058103
Why is Cleveland so much worse than the Ruski and IJN cruiser of the same tier ? Shouldnt it be tier 5 ?

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>>152061551
>Cleveland
>bad
what

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>>152061546
agreed it has always been interesting how long german ships float with their sterns blown off

>>152061474
idk about that

but she was defanetly sinking

>>152061551
Because she used to be the single most overpowered ship in the tier before and after hers. She's still a little bitch to fight with all the fucking fires she causes.

>>152061664
>defanetly
Shiet anon, get it together.

>be Kolberg
>hit something with HE shell
>80% 0 damage shatter
>5% 0 damage bounce
>15% 200 damage simple pen
>1% infinite damage detonation
Precision German engineering

>>152060316
The point was that they mixed guns with different rifling for some reason, but whatever.

Also, Bismarck was moving at 14 kots and could not maneuver during that action.
The number of hits scored is hardly surprising, especially when you consider the range to which Rodney closed.

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Will there be a German CV line, or just a few premiums?

What would be their schtick?

>>152061857
I just go full yolo and charge them at the start of the game with the intent to torp/ram.

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>>152061993
w h e n

>>152061608
Good luck causing any fires when you are already sunk by shelling from beyond your gun range.
Especially when you are the primary target exactly because of your arsonism.

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>Koning
>Begining to undestand the how the lady works
>Trying to cap B
>2 Torp Bombers
>only 2 torps hits
>DETONATION

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>>152061993
Next CV line would probably be the French or the British.

Maybe their planes are fast and can reposition quicker than the others?

>>152062097
>Posting inferior Japcrap
wewlad

>>152061948
>the first argument was about how the rodney couldn't hit it
>now we are back tracking to how the bismarck was going slow and couldn't move

Back peddling: the post

>>152061993
what planes could they possibly invent for a German carrier line?

>>152061993
Not before Ruski carriers with extra planes above the napkin design, tovarisch.

god damn gniesaenaus second hull is a shit. who thought this was ok

>>152061993
Graf is going in Soon™

>>152062038
I'd do that but it's only 8 games or so to get the 3k XP I need. I'm not that suicidal yet.

>>152062304
>German non-premium boats having a chance in Wows
It's a double miracle that the Nassau is decent.

>>152062337
The Karls is worse. Use the same tactics.

>>152060487
What acctually happened:
>Rodney's guns were not without trouble according to this link
>NO IT SUNK THE BISCUIT
>Well yeah but that was not the point, the guns had decades of trouble, and were not performing all that well compared to the other 16" guns
>BUT IT SUNK THE BISCUIT YOU NAZI WE WON WW2 AND SHIT

>>152061948
>they mixed guns with different rifling for some reason
Man, reading the navweaps page on her guns reads like a shipwreck report. The sheer amount of teething problems with her is reminiscent more of Germany's rushed tank designs.

Good thing videogames exist and those teething problems don't exist. I still expect her to probably have lower accuracy as an homage to her historical performance, though.

>>152062304
>105mm 9% firechance
>128mm 5% firechance
JUST

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>>152061993
>What would be their schtick?
Secondaries and survivability

>>152062470
this was not the argument. Are you fucking retarded?

>>152062304
does Scharn get to keep the 150mm secondaries or are they all 128mm as well?

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>Konig
>Bayern

>Konig
>Bayern

>Konig
>Bayern

>>152062498
>homage
I'm sure that's exactly what patriotic Ruski devs will call it.

>>152062515
But how do the 12.8cm's perform in the AA role? I have high hopes for them.
>>152062532
>German CVs getting high HP, healthpots, and 10km base range secondaries but with shitty planes

What could possibly go wrong?????

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>>152062243
Why are you so salty, chink?

>>152062621
scharn gets the 150mm and the 105's which are better in everyway than the 128's. also gneis litteraly needs the hull upgrade to not be gimped

>>152062568
Then what was the arguement?

All I read was some guy exploding into autism after sombody dared 'criticize' Nelson's guns with a navweaps link.

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>>152062719
Says the chink getting mad about someone posting an image on a image board.

>>152062498
Shhhh, don't tell that to the Brits.

They'll explode into even more autism.

>>152062715
the gneis gets 136 far DPS on 128mm mounts, buffed to 149-150 with BFT. This can be further buffed to 300 with manual AA, but the choice between AFT and manual AA is gonna be very difficult to make in my opinion. Hiryu has low hp torpedo bombers so 150dps on your far mounts might be serviceable, but if you encounter any Shocucks or Lexis you'd be boned.

>>152062728
this is bullshit

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>>152063098
But I'm not salty at all.

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>>152063205
Neither am I.

>>152063463
>>152063098
>>152062243
is that some weirdass KanColle ripoff?

>>152063161
>the choice between AFT and manual AA is gonna be very difficult to make in my opinion
?????????

Why not both?

>>152062103
And by the way, IJN cruisers have a better chance at setting fires.

>turn trees on
>fps in the 20s
ayyyyyyyy

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I'm okay with the events that are unfolding currently.

>>152063584
China strikes again.

Anyone play Gneis yet? How's the accuracy?

>>152063664
Manual AA is useless if there's no carriers in a battle or you have a good CV ally that quickly sinks the enemy CV.
It's also useless when the planes don't come your way.

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>>152063584
Then I guess you're just going to contintue to post your shit designs :^)
>>152063584
Essentially yes, it's one of the more popular ones called Zhan Jian Shao Nyu (Warship girls).

>>152063941
It's still more useful than manual secondaries or concealment. Literally why would you not take it? There's enough CVs to make it at least somewhat useful.

>>152064141
>not taking manual secondaries on a ship line that can get up to 10.5km range at tier 8
why

>>152063923
they're fine its still german so its BLANSE but better than tirpitz. honestly the gun count is the worst part in regards to accuracy, but atleast you can pun bb's unlike scharnhorst

>>152064615
Scharnhorst just HE's them while torpedo beating a dozen DD's until it can torp the BB.

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>>152064578
I wouldn't

>>152064757
>Scharnhorst just HE's them
>With that dispersion
Wew 1 HE shell every 20s. Scharn sure showed them.

>>152064757
yea but with gneis you can actually cit them or just normal pen them for like 13k every 26. also I somehow managed to cit another gneis though the front at like 10k so thats um...intresting

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>mfw shitposting stops whenever anusmati is in battle or asleep

>>152064856
frankly shcarn and gneisau secondaries can do the work on a secondary specific build, but that requires the tier 5 skill and im not autistic enought to play that much or buy a bote just for this.

nassau is so slow, goddam. i forgot how much i liked kawaiichi because its secondaries would eat dumb CAs alive.

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>>152064842
That wasn't the question.

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>>152063584
I prefer it because there's a lot more variety to the ships and the designs are more than generic skimpy shit with some ship stuff on the side, and I don't have to use a VPN just to play a dumb flash game, and English translation soon. Plus I enjoy pissing people off by posting it.
>>152064034
>Complains about shit designs
>Posts kancolle
wew lad
Nice quoting(((((((

>>152065114
nah gneis's secondarries are garbage compared to scharn. litteraly no point untill bisco

>>152065114
>CAs at t3
>anything getting within 8km of a kawachi
Are you sure you remember correctly?

>>152065198
>guns in the same mounting trained to separate elevations

triggered

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>>152065198
Your pictures only prove how right I am about those shit designs :^)

>>152065267
we were all noobs back then.

i sure caught some surprises with very few shell hits on DDs before i died a horrible death.

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>gross's 128mm's have 5% fire chance too
WHY

>>152065198
I guess?
The deigns are okayish id say but the planes and the gun turret designs are upsetting
does it have the USS midway though

>>152064578
make fun of """her""" small airwing

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>>152065451
Funny, I was thinking the same thing <:^)

>>152060203
Flamu says the T10 is good tho.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1NHH755FKc

>>152064141
>More useful than concealment
Give it a go on the next PT. I used to think the same as you.

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>>152065997
>"""her"""
What did she mean by this?
>>152066062
>n-no u
pathetic, just like chinkcolle designs.

Does anyone know of an easy way to populate a spreadsheet with a certain parameter of every fully-upgraded tech-tree ship (specifically HP)?

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>Bismarck clubbing T10s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6sXIoYOnps

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>>152065582
No, but the Essex is and she has an eagle of freedom.

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>>152058249
>>152060209
Have some more Nelson-class photos Nelsonbro

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>people thought tirpitz would be better than best girl Bisko
>mfw

>>152066702
Ever notice how they try to not to show the rather unfortunate superstructure?

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>>152066590
>Not posting best CV

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H-here I go!

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>>152066861
>cuck has to justify his lack of torps

>>152067054

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So the RN cruiser meme is going to be fast firing 6in guns and meme torps? will they get smoke

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>>152067054
As in when they're getting photos of the guns? Or in general? If the former its for obvious reasons if its the latter then kek

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>>152067062
why does it look like Iowa in a DD outfit with a flight deck strapped on her back

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>>152067142
Torpedoes are a crutch

>>152067417
And yet they kill you so much.

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>>152066560
>Horst Wessel Lied
>not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-sgfSTINck
smhtbqhfam

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>>152067479
Because they're fucking cheap and require no skill

>>152067526
not this while >>152067479

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfPSZECLl3s

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>>152067402
Aren't blonds the stereotypical American girl?

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>>152067581
Is raptor into Bisko NTR doujins?

>There are people who defend DD bullshit

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>>152067526
desu senpai most german music is really shitty

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Vague British tree speculation
(Ignored DDs cos I know literally nothing about them, don't know much about carriers either senpai but oh whale)

>>152067417

says the man who takes them like a total slut

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>>152067402
She was drawn up before the Iowa was.

Why is the Atago so fucking bad

Since most of you are NA and get pandered to like a chinese panda bear which is pregnant how is the Scharnhorst?

>>152067829
What bullshit?

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>>152067829
Lowest damage in all T10?

>>152067953
Lion was hardly a concept they had already started construction. Also just for reference its hard to build ships when you are getting blitz'd RIP

>>152068101

>Why doesn't my Destroyer do as much damage as a Carrier or BB?
>Nerf!

>>152068115
>>152067953
Also failed to list Malta as concept

>>152068101
>low damage in tier 10
>this means they are bad at every tier

>>152068089
Firing their guns at >5km and never being spotted
>smoke
>>>>>smoke

>>152067829

>There are people that defend the Derpitz/Atagoy.

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>>152067953
>N3 is brit BB TX

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>>152068230
>>152068115
Fair enough true but I don't think the actual tree layout isn't too far fetched

>>152068379
>Atago
>uptiered myogi with a health pack that only give 5000 health
>good

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>>152068480
>>Atago
>>uptiered myogi

>>152068435
It cant be the L3 that would be too simple, WG have to screw us somehow

>German battleships simultaneously stole both AA and brawling from tier 3-7 USN BB's

kek

>>152068565
I think he meant Myoko.

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>>152068439
>The Ministry of Aviation (German: Reichsluftfahrtministerium), abbreviated RLM, was a government department during the period of Nazi Germany (1933–45).

>Red Letter Media (stylized as RedLetterMedia) is a film/video production company operated by independent filmmaker Mike Stoklasa

>RLM
>RLM
Coincidence?

>>152067953
Vanguard is a fast battleship not a battlecruiser nvm a CA.

>>152068565
Myoko*

>>152068210
>>152068274
>BaBBies

>>152068274
It is how it is though, depending on the ship sail away or go balls to wall and sail at the bastards.

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>>152068704
I know.

>>152067953
>No Admiral class battleship
Hood premium only? No plz

>>152068841
>BB
I enjoy suffering. So I play cruisers

>>152068274
Do you play like that guy in the Zao webms? The key to avoiding torps is to predict when they are coming.

>>152068647
>Anything coming close to Texas in AA at tier V

Nice try Naziboo, but these colors don't run.

>>152068758
Mein Gott
>>152068761
I know but I had nothing to go there apart from possibly Renown-class which would get rekt at such a tier and fast-battleship is the closest thing to Battlecruiser outside of Hood that can be at such a tier, and I know its not a CA the tree is supposed to branch from CA to BC

>>152068480

Aww, I know it hurts you but yes, your crutch of a T8 CA is PTW.

>>152068935
>CAsuals
Why are you having problems with DDs in smoke? Aren't cruisers supposed to have sonar or radar?
I play DDs and BBs

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>>152068480

>>152068101
Yeah i remember top tier gameplay almost dying when we had every T10 game with 5+ Shima's all sailing in groups and spamming undodgeable skilless torp walls while never
being detected once unless you were lucky and had a CV who actually scouted. So you'll forgive me for not giving a fuck if team invisifire isn't raking in the damage.

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>>152068935
WG would never pass up the opportunity to monetize hood, sorry tovarish

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>>152067968
Should've listened to chat

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>>152068584
seeing the Warspite and what WG has shown us of the RN line, i believe the RN TX BB will be the Lion or some WG concept

WG jerks off thinking of National peculiarities and the RN BB peculiarity will be the 15in guns and speed
as you go down the line, the 15in guns will be powerful, slow cannons with great accuracy, but poor range, up until T7 (where the nelson and her 16in guns will be) then back to 15in on the KGV and the Vanguard, where the 15in will transition to decently fast firing guns that still pack a punch, but they will retain their low range and low dispersion. this will be supplemented by the speed of the KGV and the Vanguard, Turrets and ship. then, for the Tree finale, the Lion will retain the reload, dispersion, and speed of the 15in gun, but with more alpha and greater range given by the 16in gun.

The Brit BBs will be 2nd line ships that use their speed to get into position, Alpha and their dispersion to punish BBs and CAs that get too comfortable showing their side. Unfortionally, they will play a bit like KM BBs, but the two nation's navel doctrine was fairly similar (minus the use of subs)

>>152069683
lel lion cucks. That thing will be the T9 at best.

>>152067953

fuck I hope they split off the BC line and don't bastardize the BB line with them

>>152069057
You've got a line going from a heavy cruiser to a heavily armored battleship then a thin skinned BC followed by a design so retarded that the only thing worse the RN tried was peroxide propelled submarines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Explorer_(submarine)

That's not a line it's a clusterfuck of massively different playstyles.

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>>152069762
>lets build a national tree around small, fast ships with great guns, then once they hit TX, we'll change the meta completely and hit them with a huge, bulky ship with the 18in guns

>>152070095
>Let's build a national tree around giant light cruisers, then once they hit TX, we'll change it into a gigantic heavy cruiser with huge 22cm guns

?????

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God I love the Bismarck

>>152069567
So will hood be op? She's better armored than iowa

>>152070261
but the Moskva plays almost exactly like the rest of the line. the N3 would have a playstyle completely out of left field compared to the rest of the (speculatory) line

>>152070360
Being better armoured than the Iowa is not really an accomplishment.

>>152070270
>Swordfish this
>IJN Carrier with no swordfishes.

0/10

boog pls

Post pictures of you being broke.

>>152070504
>likely t7
>better armored than ioway
>8 15in guns
>6 torpedo tubes 3 to each side
>31 knots
sounds fun tbqh

>>152070485
Keep thinking that, Lion cucks. Your tears will be delicious when N3 comes out.

>>152070485
It's worse that T10 it has 20inch guns (WG has said no to any 20 inch guns already) and a 35kt speed oh and it has a puny 11 inch belt and 4 inch deck so expect any CA to pen all
day everyday and it's 1000ft+ size means you'd have to be blind to miss it.

>>152069851
Heavy cruisers to battle cruisers has always been discussed, the only out of place bit is vanguard (at least it's fast) as I can't put renown or hood there

>>152070979
I'm confused are you talking about the n3?

>>152071129
>>152071186
THIS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Incomparable on that messed up CA/BB/BC line.

>>152070845
No underwater torpedo tubes allowed tovarish.

>>152071186
Not him but I assume he's talking about HMS Incomparible

>>152064939
Makes you really think.

>>152071365
she has 2 x 2's above water goyim, also apparently bongers are getting the ability to single fire toprs on their cl's or dd's for some reason

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>>152070881
>picking a pub napkin design over a design that had keels laid
gg no re

>>152071664
>Putting a ship better suited to T9 in the quagmire that is T10
>WG NOT using a napkin design that would be right at home in T10

Sure thing, deluded Lion cucks.

>>152071664
don't worry goy lion will be great at t9. if you want a shity bong montana at t10 with the 1945 lion you should kys. N# is just much more fun sounding. she's short stacked and t h i c c

FUCKING UNIVERSITY, I AM FUCKING LATE IN THE GERMAN HYPE

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Fun ship.

>>152064578
I wouldnt. I would escort her.

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>>152071826
it would fit right at home being torped 24/7 with its terrible maneuverability, spotting range, and huge size

>a T10 BB needs to have at least 12 16in guns or 18in guns
has it occurred to you that BBs have secondary battle characteristics such as maneuverability and visibility? Or maybe the size of the ship?

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>>152071894
>>152071826
>samefagging

>>152072379
Poor deluded Lioncuck thinks he's seen N3's in game stats.

She will be buffed in minor ways, just like Montana's buffs. WG isnt going to pass up the opportunity to put a big gunned ship like her in the Brit BB line and you fucking know it.

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>>152070564

>my checking acct right now as I hopefully wait for a fucking paycheck

can't continue on my kebab grind because of this shit and I really don't have interest in german BB's at this time outside maybe buyin a scharnhorst

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>>152072584

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>>152065198

>>152069241
>sonar
it does nothing. I want my defensive fire back.

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>WoWs is updating
>already farmed the credits, 3k xp, free xp and captain to start my grind to get my shipfu Bismarck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZDJUTYDiq8
I am ready

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Oh my god. She's so beautiful.

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>Nassau
>Turn away from enemy fleet
>Shells goes into my stern
>Detonate

wew

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>>152067953
>No Premium Agincourt
With the right buffs, it would make a fine T10 instead)))))))))

>>152072815
Why would WG even want to?
They have shown their willingness to break from the Only big guns at T10 meta with the großer kurfürst
Besides, why would YOU even want another T10 BB that handles like a beached whale?
I want a T10 BB where I can run circles around torpedos instead of relying on my armor to tank the damage.

>>152073235
REPTAR
HOW GOOD IS BISMARCK

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>>152072815
>15in belt internally angled at 20degrees
>decent tps better than hoods atleast
>9 457mm guns
>8in deck
>16 6in guns
>only 250 meters long
How could anyone not want her.

>>152073340
>They have shown their willingness to break from the Only big guns at T10 meta with the großer kurfürst

>has the option to mount the same or bigger guns than Montana
Are you really this retarded, lioncuck?

>>152073340
>handles like a beached whale
she's going to be slow but will have warspite handling trust me my dad is a wargaming

>>152069317

Even back then Shimas were doing 50% of Yamato's average damage.

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>>152073476
>Großer Kurfürst gun upgrade
>420mm
>16.5in
>Bigger

>Cuck
>Cuck
>Cuck
Go back to your containment board, kid

>>152073823
>non sequiter
>no argument
not an argument

>>152073682
>She
That thing doesn't even deserve to be called a she
If the Yamato is a finely crafted sword, then the N3 is a wooden club

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>>152073386
:^)

>>152073960
SECOND TO NONE

>>152073823
Yes lioncuck, 16.5 is, in fact, bigger than 16.

I know it must be hard you for your cucked mind to handle this shocking concept, but please try anyways.

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>>152073917
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy

Good job

>>152073413
18 inch guns

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8fVvphU9E4&feature=youtu.be&t=1m3s

B I S M A R C K

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>tfw everyone wants to division
>tfw you can't help everyone but forced limits on people in divisions
I will do my best guys.. just give it time if you are solo suffering.

>>152074154
>still no argument
>more non sequesters
>add hominmid
>argument add wikifidelis
>argument to nausea
nice try kid but I went to the best law school in Australia you can't out argue me

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ROYAL NAVY CRUISERS TREE CONFIRMED ON ASIA SERVER

T10 IS MINOTAUR

>>152074513
Only a couple of hours late m9

>>152074513
So now that we are getting the USS Worchester but english and with guns that are better in every way with torps, can murilards stop begging for a usn line split

>>152074630
searched thread and saw no discussion

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>>152074125
>.5in on every barrel
>4 less barrels
Oh yea, big firepower upgrade over the Montana
Face it, the Großer kurfürst's battle prowess comes from its turtle shell armor, secondaries, and it's speed
NOT its main armament
This clearly shows that a battleship can still be at T10 without having 18in guns

>>152074513
>T10 has 9 6in guns in three triple turrets

How the hell will that even be competitive at that tier?

>>152074787
>Großer kurfürst's battle prowess comes from its turtle shell armor, secondaries, and it's speed
hahahahahahahaha

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No

>>152074787
But L3 doesn't have enough armour to make for just 9 16inch guns at tier X, when tier VII has that

>>152074854
If it's got enough range and RPM, it could work as a fire starter.

>>152074854
>The third group of Minotaurs, the Tigers, were being built from quite early in their evolution with a different main battery consisting of three triple MK 24 6 inch turrets, which were DP, elevating to 60 degrees, and which automatically tracked and followed targets under 274/275 radar control.

maybe it will be an AA meme machine

>>152074787
>4 less barrels

>4x3 42cm is 4 barrels less than 4x3 16

How the FUCK do you figure that? Are you actually this retarded? Christ, you lioncucks really are deluded.

>>152074675
There will be a USN CA line split, WG has even said this, can you not into Q&A?

>>152072846
What do you work at?

>>152074787
nah. if they adding another 12 barreled 16in BB at t10 would be to much it's getting boring and WG knows it

>>152074918
Its definitely not from its maneuverability or firepower

>>152074919
It would have guns with cruiser like dispersion and cruiser like speed and handling, but with a battleship silhouette, although shorter

>>152074918
Flamu pls

>>152075149
The gun upgrade reduces the amount of guns per turret to 2
The 420mm upgrade makes the Kurfürst a 4x2 layout

>>152075336
Oops

Meant for >>152074787

>>152075217
Adding another 9 barreled 18in platform would?

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>>152075368
nah ur a cunt

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>>152075368
You can't trick us, lioncuck. We all have access to the client.

>>152075521
we have two 4x3 16in styles why would we waste our time when we could actually have fun with a beauty like n3 instead of a literal lion clone with an extra turret and uptired when a second to none is available and would work

>>152075584
>>152075616
You really think someone would go on the internet and tell lies?

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>faragut is bad they said
>US DDs suck they said

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FRIENDLY REMINDER THAT LION'S 16" GUNS WERE COMPARABLE IN PERFORMANCE TO COLORADO'S 16" GUNS

I'm sure the T10 BBs will be quaking in their boots at the prospect of a 9 gun colorado.

Invite to Johans aim assist plz?

>>152075812
>Things no one has said since the great buffening of USN torps and the great nerfening of IJN torps
>Also the buff to turret HP

>>152075829
>lion
>1030kg shells
>n3
>1360kg shells
seems like an easy choice as to which is better suited for t10. especcially when the very light weight outbored 420mm's were 1220kg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8fVvphU9E4
>tfw detonations will never look like this

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>>152075584
>>152075616
Face it, the Lion is the superior T10 candidate
You just want another 18in platform even though it would be nothing like the rest of the line and complete shit when stacked up to the Yamato

>>152075812
what happened to "i will never play non axis ships" :^)

>>152076081
>3x3 16" guns firing cute little lightweight shells
>T10 material

kek

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>>152075752
>Beauty

>>152076081
the 457mm guns on n3 would be in between the montana and yamato's tho. they are 100kg's lighter. The reason I want N3 is due to her armor and shortness as well as secondaries. She seems like a fun brawling shit instead of another fast BB

>>152076018
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNBR_18-45_mk2.htm

She could easily be given the 1920 1500kg shells.

>>152076324
its not about her being fast, its about her being maneuverable
a T10 BB that wont have to take Midway torp drops on the nose because i could turn inside a drop

>>152076081
>entire line is relatively slow up until kgv
>even then kgv and lion are slower than their t8 and t9 fast bb counter parts
>english bb's all have thick belt armor and decent secondaries
>all turn well
N3 seems to fit better and will be shorter than the 1945 lion plan
>>152076494
Problem is those were meant for the bl mk1 18in guns N3 had the mk2's guess they could skookum it up if they wanted to
>>152076525
thing is the lion with 12 16in gus you are advocating is longer with estimates of atleast 830ft+ in lentgh. that woul certainly give it worse turning than the n3

>>152076169
Welp, i played ranked and got tired of getting memed on by Mahans

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>Bismarck average damage: 115k
SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!

>>152077418
why the fuck do you get to play german bbs already?

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>>152077617

>>152062038
>Kolberg
>Torps
Does the Kolberg B hull upgrade give you torps but not tell you when you mouse over?

Tier 6 destroyers on NA who want free wins, get on

>>152077418
so this is where you go when you arent shitting up DCS

Does Scharn get +/-1 MM?

>It's a Lionfag, ex-Nelsonfag spergs out episode

>>152076034
>be RN
>explode
LMAO

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PSA: If you're planning to buy 6 months or 1 year of premium account soon, that chance is tomorrow. 15% off the usual GOLD price due to WoT Summer event.

The catch is, it only mentions gold price. So you won't be able to use your current doubloons. However there is a chance WG will also apply the discount on the doubloon price, as they've done on past sales.

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>>152079539
>cheering cuckfu

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>>152076034

>krauts successfully deterring a swordfish attack

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1 bong

>>152079810
>Bismarck having good AA
>Bismarck shooting down a plane

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2 bong

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3 bong

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4 bong

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5 bong

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>>152080327
>>152080618
>>152080815
>>152081062

>Single barrel

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6 bong

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>>152079028
>teebs jumping to each other's throats

And nothing of value was lost desu

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7 bong

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8 bong

>>152081705
>>152081483
Im guessing that the top tiers will have very good torpedoes, but not many of them