Soon edition
Patch 5.9 (LIVE):
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/update-notes-059/
Patch 5.10(Soon™):
http://worldofwarships.asia/en/news/announcements/ver-0510-patchnotes/
Stat tracker/Stalk your favorite wowsg
http://warships.today
http://na.wows-numbers.com/
>Useful Information:
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>In-game chat channel
EU Channel: "Official /vg/ channel", password is "vidya"
NA Channel: Search for '/vg/' channel by Antibully ranger
SEA Channel: /vg/
NA: [KUMA]: http://na.wargaming.net/clans/1000021519
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EU: [NOFUN]: http://eu.wargaming.net/clans/500011239/
last thread: >>151883410
can someone gift me tirpitz?
I like this one more.
>>151965201
Me,
t. Snoozing_Mako
>>151965241
I like this one better too.
>>151964949
Will forever be the best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDPJuAxZaOo>anime didn't use game music
W H Y
GERMAN STEEL
Why are German BBs the most fun?
Konig Albert will be WoWS birthday present, screenshot this
>Love how raptor is all butthurt about the CBTreroll boogaymen. It's like he doesn't know CBT stats are available for everybody to see.
Not to mention the rerolls he trashes around still have superior stats in their original servers: For example, wave:
http://worldofwarships.eu/en/community/accounts/529706245-Wavecave/!/pvp/overview/
>67%
>There are people here RIGHT NOW who won't buy Konig Albert and keep Kaiser and Bayern
shaking my head to be honest
>>151966338
Why would anyone buy Koenig Albert when it will be the anniversary gift ship?
>>151965937
but anon I don't give a shit if you rerolled or played in CBTbut you have to admit my stats would be much better if I did too :^)
>>151966520
>He doesn't have disposable income to buy dupes of premiums
>>151966564
Go away pedophile
How many miles has wowsg traveled?
>>151966824
>>151966564
They certainly would be.And yet they would still be worse than the likes of wave, mako, abrach,anu, slay orbig spudAnd if you don't give a shit, why do you bring this up everytime you're called out for being legitimately bad? :^)
Anyways, a reroll applies to anyone who participated in CBT or created a new account in 2016 while only having sub 61% winrate on their main account.
>>151965937
Doesn't seem like a reroll to me. He has almost similar stats on both accs but more battles played on NA, both accs were also made a long time ago.
There are actual rerolls lurking here and this is not one of them, deal with it.
>>151965628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyPsn4fK5kc
JUST.
At least the memories will not die.
>>151967030
>Anu
Haha no, stomping beginners in a tryhard super unicum 3 man division below tier 6 won't make you good in a dying shit game owned by Slavs. Plus he is technically a reroll considering he played the game during CBT.
Now to the real questions, why is Anumati accusing new players on the forum with good stats to be Wave and why does he care so much rerolls considering he is one?
>>151967030
Except my recent stats are just as good or better than theirs :^)
rly makes u think
Warships Today should do SOMETHING
>>151967846
Tell us about that time when a girl gamer BTFO 'd you in your Benson and made you ragequit from the game for one (1) whole day.
>>151967846
>recent stats
>relevant
>>151967846
All your recents stats are in divisions. What's the matter, can't handle ships without getting carried around?
>>151968171
Recent stats are the only fucking stats that matter.
Who here is queueing T4 CV on Thursday for maximum clubbing?
>>151967967
Here is the thing. If you played DDs often, your WTR would be going down for a class like BB that while you are raising your averages, you are performing worse than the average player in your BB.
That could be an explanation.
>>151968475
I'm not Canadian, so clubbing seals isn't my national pastime
>>151968410
Yeah, if you have 25k games that cemented your record's ability to handily fluctuate with your skill growth. Recents are otherwise only an indictator of how well you can fucking statpad.
>>151968552
Maybe, just maybe is because of the ppl playing in the same ship as mine :^)
>>151968475
Jokes on you. Low tier German BBs have tight turning, and I'll be queuing in my Yubari with a 15-point AA captain and prem consumables.
#savetheseals
>>151968936
Dunno what to tell you then.
Sorry.
>>151968964
>go to club seals
>get clubbed by another clubber
Like pottery
>>151968138
>>151968171
>>151968352
Y'all seem pretty obsessed tbqh
>>151969284
You're the one who keeps bringing it up all the time.
It's as if you were embarassed that all of the better NA players are not even americans LMAO.
>>151969497
How many in /vg/ are actually American?
>>151969872
*/vg/ chat
>>151969497
>bringing it up
k
>tfw shitposters are so stupid they can't even tell who is posting
>>151969872
Difficult question. Lets begin with the ones that are not:
>THE CONFIRMED ILLEGAL ALIEN LIST:
>Abrach
>Luis_Almirante_Brown
>Rh3yncks
>SlayMad
>Snoozing_Mako
>Wavebave
ITT: people being reminded
>>151970932
Who does that leave?
Listen to your heart /wowsg/
>>151971064
Daily reminder that you will never DD as hard as Taffy 3
>>151970932
add me to the list:GFischer
>>151970932
>>151971821
cmon anon why you gotta start shit
>>151972149
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
>>151971821
>mfw #neutralbro
>mfw have a #carrybro buddy to haul my ass up everyday
>>151968821
If you have 25k fucking games then what do the first 5k, 10k, even 20k of those fucking games have to do with how good you are now? Nothing. Absolutely fucking nothing. They only serve to weigh down and obscure your stats by hiding them under thousands of games where you weren't as good as you are now.
Recent stats offer a balance between decent sample size relevance, something lifetime stats will never ever fucking do.
>>151972262
/NEUTRAL BROS/
UNITE
>>151971637
>THE CONFIRMED ILLEGAL ALIEN LIST:
>Abrach
>Luis_Almirante_Brown
>GFischer
>Rh3yncks
>SlayMad
>Snoozing_Mako
>Wavebave
Anyone else would like to confess?
>>151972416
>>151972262
Whats the max deviation for neutral bro? I assume true neutral is 1.000
>>151970932
>>151972428
Remember, its the NA server, not the US server. Abrach being from Mexico doesn't qualify as illegal immigrant.
Illegal immigrants have to be people who don't use the server closest to them.
>>151971821
Anyone with +65% winrate and more than 0.700 points should fucking kill themselves for being carried.
i would totally suck dasha's dickno homo
>>151972262
>have a #carrybro buddy to haul my ass up everyday
That is, by definition, not neutral.
If you are being "carried", then there is a third person in the div who is being carried harder so that it all averages out to be equal to a 3-man div consisting of 3 (You)s.
>>151972772
>Spotting/support XP for Torp Botes never.
>sit in exact same position for 15 minutes in standoff with other Scharn while killing everything that rounds the island
>he pushes and dies
this town ain't big enough for the both of us
>losing a turret 5 minutes into the match meme
perma primary weapon destruction is worse than detonations honestly
>>151973909
Scharnhorst: Bringing bow-on cancer down to tier 7
>>151974029
Detonations arent even that bad because theyre rare as fuck.
>>151974345
They could fix them instantly by giving you 5 s to flood your magazines with DCP, unless you're on low health already.
>>151974345
Unless a torp hits the front of you bow in your Scharnhorst
>>151972428
wow you can't just say that to me. call me "illegal" again and I'll call the fbi on you kiddster
>>151965892
>Didn't get the kill
Poor fella
>>151974345
Thats what I'm saying. Detonations while aggravating, you're not stuck having to sail around with a chunk of your damage output permanently removed to the duration of the match because some gopnik dev thought it would be a immersive and beneficial feature.
>>151975369
Honestly it should be that they get knocked out for progressively longer each time. Never permanently, but weakened more.
>>151975369
I would be ok if they were just knocked out for a whole minute without chance for repairs. I have knocked both frontal turrets on Yamato by deliberatedly aiming at them, and it has served me for some neat clutch wins. But it is bullshit when you're stuck with an useless turret for the entire match after a random shell knocks it right at the start.
>>151975069
ikr
>>151976387
a merchant vessel is about the only thing Scharn's guns can pen lmao
Why is NA a playground for other servers populations?
Why are americans so shit at this game that even retards like Raptor can achieve unicum stats?
Seriously, SEA and EU (probably even RU) are on a whole different level of skill, that's why i can't take seriously NA memesters.
>>151977013
We got 16 people in the chill af channel right now and can get divs of pretty much any tier going at any time. What about you, EU/SEA?
>>151976709
>not just burning everyone else down
>>151977013
>being this salty
top kek stay mad eurocuck
>>151972772
t. abrach the luggage
>>151977295
>>151977497
>dodging the argument
>16 players 3/4 of which are cancerous redditors
Well memed NA, the quality of your server is well reflected in your contributions to the thread (shitposting and namefagging).
>>151978063
the average education of the EU server is too far below me senpai I would never subject myself to your under educated stupidity tbqh. please kys
>>151977792
>mfw chain_chomp carries abrach every night.
>mfw abrach gets all the credit.
Fuck this gay earth.
>>151978298
yfw abrach gets cocky because of this and attempts to brag brag like he hot before retreating back inside his spaghetti shell
>>151978298
Does /wowsg/ still love Fubuki?
>>151978289
says the australian shitposter refugee who got on NA for ez pz sealclubbing
>>151978503
No, she's garbage, especially the shipslut.
>>151978063
>thinking he has an argument
>>151978886
Now that is just rude.
What's up with all this Abrach namedropping and apparent hate?
>>151978503
/wowsg/ never stopped loving the Bucky
>>151979082
Wave is shitposting about NA anons again.
>>151978728
australians have a long history on the na server senpai. besides EU has always been the confirmed worst players in just about every gen for years. be it tanks or ships. you're server is garbage. even a gang of disgusting plsgo's rape the top ten on eu like it's easy. EU IS TRASH TBQH
What's the relationship between NTR and PLSGO, anyways?
>>151979286
>/ss/
>>151978984
It's true m80, remember the great NA turkey shoot where NA "finest" got stomped by above average SEA players.
Also NA is full of broadside shitters and is lackluster in teamplay, ships rarely get focused on cause merricucks are into 1v1 fegit faggotry or just too busy ordering their McShitter.
>>151979480
sounds like you don't have an argument still just your fantasys.you wanna rub some cream on my penis kiddster
>>151979164
Sick false flag, too bad the general consensus is pic related and his beloved transgender friend """rape"""spammer. Good luck next time "anon"! Maybe one day Abrach or Wave will play with you when you stop being autismal about everything.?
>>151979174
Cuck, see >>151979480 for NA turkey shoot lmao
Based SEA
>>151979389
>/ss/
Uh. So who's the MILF and who's the shota?
>>151979621
Okay then.
>>151979286
NTR was PLSGO's parent clan so that NTR could have a place to stick tankers who couldn't meet the skill requirements for NTR, in theory. In practice its where the childishly autistic shits got stuck ONTOP of those who couldn't meet the NTR skill requirements. Containment reallyif you weren't grandfathered greenguard anyways :^)
>>151979174
Best NA players are not even from NA kys dislexic shitposter
Intel 5500 its good for this game?
>>151979480
>ignoring F22xRaptor making NA great again and deporting all illegals
I would liked a wot/wows for Latin America, specially when playing tonks @200ms. But I like the Bros that i've here.
>>151979174
Explain this cuck:
Why are Wave stats on NA much better than his EU ones?
Checkmate mako
>>151979965
>start argument about which server is best
>NA is proven to be the best objectively
>EU autists crying in their autism
>n-n-n-n-n--no that d-d-d-d-d-doesn't count
neck yourself you autistic loser.lLMAOing at your life rite now btw
>>151980120
Well then, this F22xRaptor guy has done a terrible job on deporting Abrach and Luis so far.
>>151979875
Why would a bunch of deleted posts (most likely made by you) be his? Do you have paranoia Anumati?
>>151980334
post proofs ))) cuck
>>151980276
>how do I reroll mama
>explain polands aim assist
nah, kys, aspie
>>151980456
Failed damage control.
>>151980354
All the refugees on NA (which coincidentally are NA best players) have better stats there than on their home server.
Coincidence?
>>151980492
onus is on you aspie. gb2 memeschool I hear they teach basics of argument there maybie you could learn something heh retard
>>151980650
>rerolls have better stats
wanna know how I know you're new here, retard
>>151980513
>reroll
>both profiles have 2.5k + matches with no particular fluctuations on the original one
It's irrelevant, neck yourself ausnigger aborigine
Can we go back to posting Fubuki instead of this shitposting?
>>151980919
wave and slays stats are litteraly classic reroll syndrome. kys you autistic new fag or learn how to read the charts, aspie
>>151980650
Wow, try arguing next time
>>151981020
I'm ok with that
>>151980829
>still spouting this meme
Is that what you keep saying to justify your inferior stats?
Sometimes I wonder why Anu has been going at it for a year.
>>151981230
Fubuki sure is popular.
>>151981230
Marks of Excellence on botes when?
>>151981251
>rerolls think they are aren't shitters
Guess we get to wait for clans to see how garbage you shitty rerolls are huh. till then keep cryin and i'll keep LMAOing at your life kiddster XD
>all this shitposting back and forth about stats just because you insinuated that F22xRaptor isn't top of the board, skill wise
>>151981501
>I have shittier stats
>mama it's rerolls fault
kys aborigine crack whore
>>151981501
Clans are coming soon, so it'll remain Kuma or we'll change the Name :3
>>151981516
>b-b-b-better start back beddaling now that I'm getting btfo
>I was m-m-merely pretending
>>151981669
>I didn't reroll for stats
nah
Intel 5500 its good for this game?
ITS GOOD?
>>151981442
Buki is fun, not good, but fun. You can set multiple builds for her and almost all are usefull
>get into wows
>the game is shit
>but I keep playing it
>the general is shit
>but I keep coming back
>>151981803
>Snoozing_Mako
>not a reroll or CBT nigger
Your stats dont lie nig
>>151981981
Seems my greatness is causing jealousy. It's ok I forgive you shitty reroll-chan
>>151981953
Is shit if you don't collaborate with something usefull. Also the game has based devs that hear the community not like the tonks one
>>151981953
Enjoy the ride
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/151883410
If you compare deleted posts to the shit posting here.
Its pretty much exactly the same.
Ban evasion is wrong.
>>151982297
agreed wave needs to buy himself some self control tbqh
>>151982297
Or here >>151981220
He just wont stop no matter what.
>>151981872
Turn off trees and clouds, you should be good.
What ships are keepers in every line Bros?
>mfw abrach and wave stopped posting on /wowsg/ a long time ago and Anumati is still going at it as usual
>>151982631
What line and nation specifically?
>>151982592
Thanks
>>151981452
Would be neat.
In fact, why are the ships' appearances so lacking customization? Even in WoT, you could slap decals on everything.
>>151982751
All nations, lines
>All these citadels
>such littile damage
>>151982683
But why shitpost over nothing and play victim all the time? Doesn't make sense.
>>151982957
wave stop anit-counter-counter-anti-shitposting while samefagging please. we're done time to talk about the new ship's you'll be bad in
>>151983149
Not wave or Anu friendo, just wanted to understand this mess, but then again who cares
Sometimes I wonder if Raptor is actually the Tioga060 of WoWs. I mean you could say Anumati or Wave are the the Tioga060's of wows, but thing about it. He's as self absorbed as Tioga060 was, his stats were carried into "good" as hard as Tioga060's were (and just as "not concerned about stats" too), and if there were clans in botes in the same fashion that they are in tanks....I'm pretty he would dick suck and politic his way around into the good clans the same way Tioga060 didthe real challenge of a question though.....who is the VonLuckner of WoWs
>>151982905
Yea, they seem to be lacking in customization arm. I figured the would do some type of MOE system for ships at some point
>>151982943
My list so far is:
Ijn:
>Tenryu
>Kuma
>Taco
>Myoko
>Mogami
>Zao
>Izokaze
>Mine/KamiR
>Buki
>Shima
>Kongo
>Fuso
>Rape
>Hotel
Burguers
>Clemson
>Farragut
>Benson
>Flercher
>Gearing
>NM
>NC
>Museum
)))))))))
>Kiev
>Udaloi
>Kebab
>>151983454
raptor shitposting skills are lackluster. Why not just try to actually get tioga in here. their new clan is gay cum niggers right? :^)
>>151983589
>Taco
>Rape
>Hotel
>Museum
>Kebab
What?
>>151982905
Because decals on ships really weren't a thing, and actual customizations like the Graf Spee's fake turret and funnel were ship specific so using effort and money to model something like that and only have it be for a single ship is a bit of a waste.
Honestly, permoflage is probably the closest we're going to get. Signal flags and flags don't really count since signals are tied to performance and minmaxing more than cosmetics and there's no practical reason to run anything other than the exp bonus flag.
>>151983589
>no Lolorado
>>151983748
>he doesn't understand the nicknames
>>151984002
pls explain
>>151984072
>Furutaka
>Nagato
>Yamato
>Iowa
>Khabarovsk
>>151983947
Nagato is more comfy than the Colo. Don't mind me I like the fat lady, but Nagato is better
>>151983297
There is no mess. EU player migrated to NA and played with anons but Anumati expected the EU player to invite him which infuriated and damaged Anumati's ego and here we are today. You are now aware of the fact he's been doing it since February/March.
There you go friend. I don't know who is mentioning Abrach but it's prolly Chain being edgy as usual.
>>151984375
See
>>151982297
The deleted posts say otherwise.
This shows
>>151979875
Something else entirely.
Your story has holes in it.
>>151984285
I find both to be okay honestly, the Colorado is much better then what she was in the CBT, and yet I see newer people to the game still bitch about her regardless of the buffs. Oh well, guess that means even more buffs then :^)
>>151984375
WOW you can't just talk about chain that way. he has a nice car a great job and awsome stats.
He's way better than that luggagelad abrach who gets carried by chain all the time.
Honestly I think people better start talking more about chain and how great of a player he is
>>151983745
I don't know what Tioga does these day, sure isn't tanks thats for sure.....you can't top looting the treasury of a top 5 clan and there's really no reason to stick around afterwards.
>>151984694
How exactly did that go down?
How did he get access to the treasuries of all 5 clans at once?
Or did 4 other clans fall for it after the first had gotten stolen from?
>>151984797
only otter. and he did it because he has a penis for a tongue
>>151984270
why
>>151984925
Why what? The nicknames? For the memes silly :3
>>151984925
>Furutaka = FuruTACO
>Nagato = Her secondaries RAPE
>Yamato = Comfiest shipIJN sailors called her hotel, after the Yamato Hotel Chain
>Iowa = She's sitting in Long Beach CA as a musuem
>Khabarovsk = Can grill kebabs after all the fires you start?
>>151984797
It wasn't 5 separate treasuries, it was just one...OTTER's. It happened because the Clan Commander/Allurai (pretty sure) was dumb enough to give Tioga Dep Com privileges which allowed him to make Vonluckner a treasurer and subsequently allowed the two to make off with about a 500k in gold collectively.
>>151985356
>>Nagato = Her secondaries RAPE
Oh come on anon, tell him the real reason :^)
>>151985356
>Her secondaries RAPE
If only, then the meme would die with the German BB line.
>>151985381
Oh, I misread and saw top 5 clans. Only one.
That's still a shit ton of gold, and I'm guessing completely by the rules as they had to be promoted to do that.
How much is that in USD?
Should I buy the Scharnhorst or Tirpitz
I wanna get something that has good armor and (good gun pen or damage)
>>151971821
I'm not even on the list and have been here since beta...
>>151985672
Neither me, I want to know the place i'm at :3. Gfischer
>>151985575
>How much is that in USD?
I figure about about $2000.
>>151985672
Are youIm_The_Seeker2ElysionNon NA?
>>151985845
Here ya go.Guess you went up a lot
>>151983836
>no practical reason to run anything other than the exp bonus flag.
I actually run the Kure, Hawaii and Alpha flags on a lot of ships just because I like how they look.The military month flag looks ugly.
>>151985973
>im not there
kinda glad tbqh
>>151982137
>collaborate with something useful
I'd fucking 3D-model all the italian ships myself in the most autistic level of detail if they'd give me the blueprints, but we all know RM won't be coming in less than a century.
>>151985973
Can you add me to the list?ZeroWolf01k
>>151985575
roughly 2k USD
>>151985637
p-please g-guys
Is the tirpitz good?
>>151986165
Here?
http://na.wargaming.net/clans/wot/1000021519/players/#players&offset=0&limit=25&order=-battles_count&timeframe=all&battle_type=default
>>151986420
You'll have to ask Stats-kun, but I think he is taking a vacation. He hasn't updated since June.
>>151985973
Its a little behind, I understand it can't always be completely up to date.
Looks like I've improved a bit and should play some more games solo.
>>151986051
I put my Alpha flag on every ship I own, I got the beta weekend and CBT flags but they don't do anything but look good.
>>151985575
The thing about Tioga is that he had actual social skills. He worked his way up through several clans before, gaining recognition, making friends and earning trust. By the time he got into OTTER, he was already known as a good caller, which let him get close with the clan leader, and eventually become a clan deputy.
Of course, as somebody with such social skills, he enjoyed stirring up things, causing drama and creating a myth about him. He was a constant thorn on /wotg/'s side and the greatest shitposter a WG general has ever known.
>>151986574
If I see him on I'll ask, thanks
>>151985973Sarpadeon
>>151986649
I run the CBT/Beta Weeekend flags on my russian ships, since they combine with the soviet theme.It's a shame I barely play russian ships tho
>>151986793
Until now :^)
>>151986793
I can remember some of his shitposting sprees on /wotg/
>>151986574
yes im there, guess i should shitpost my name as well
>>151986989
wave is nothing tbqh
>commander of KUMA is "SystemRename#####"
Wtf? Literally who?
>>151987423
someone who was likely named "xXxdickballs666sasukeismylovexXx"
>all this shitposting about stats
>just because raptor said
>feels good to be the best
Really makes you think
>>151987026
Eheh, i shitpost almost harder than "you know who" & his spammer friend but i never got banned, cause my shitposting is subtle and encourages others to shitpost.
Remember the various autispara outbreaks, the BOWNT falseflagging, Nelsonfag endless shitposting debates with anons, or even the renewed hatred of "you know who" for Wave?
>>151987550
nah raptor you're gay and unimportant.
>>151987423
>>151987482
looking into historic i can see imtheseeker had made alts to handle the clan
not sure why
kuma might be dead in stillwaters
>>151982631
I'm just going to refer to each ship by their tier. A lot of this is down to personal preference.
>IJN
>BB
5, 6, 7, X
>CL/CA
4, 5, (7, 8), X
>DD
2, 5, 8, (X if they ever undo the nerfs to her torps)
>USN
>BB
All decent at their tier, 3 probably not worth a port slot though
>CL/CA
3, 6, (7 because the MM for the next tier is terrible), X
>DD
4, (7, 8, 9)
>KM
>CA/CL
5
I've never played the blyat botes.
>>151986989
TBQH, not even rapespammer sprees back in 2015, when they were at full force all the time, could compare.
The shitposting /wowsg/ sees is more direct, relying on direct attacks, name calling and obvious bait. What Tioga did required more finesse and subtlety, not mere brute force. Dedication and perseverance, not just a bout of boredom.
We may never see shitposting the likes of it again.
Next patch in 3 weeks is gonna introduce basic clan functionality. Nothing special, just a form of team battles and a way to create/join clans. Idk what else they could be planning and they're running out of time for their "clans by 2016" promise
>>151987708
Probably to join another clan in wot.
Also, didn't his imtheseeker2 account get banned from the forums in wows?
>>151987550
This kind of shitposting is tangentially related to the game at least.
>>151987970
>Nothing special, just a form of team battles
THIS IS PRECISELY WHAT WE NEEDAnd rewards for Team Battles of course
I don't want our fellow /wowsg/'s to be scattered among 3 teams. The common pool a clan provides is what we need.
>>151987970
clan flags or possibly clan names on ships would be nice
>>151988092
WG Livestream sniping session when?
I miss getting free commander retrains/prem time simply by losing to WG's team and raptor submitting his vod
>>151987976
>related to the game
Is raptor the savior of Wowsg? Is he the hero we need right now? A dark knight, a watchful shitposter?
>>151986793
>>151987912
He's still around in Dota 2 and CS:GO
https://twitter.com/tioga060
>>151985637
PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION
IS THE SCHARNHORST AND TIRPITZ GOOD AND WHAT IS BETTER
>>151985637
>and (good gun pen or damage)
>Wants Scharnhorst
lel
>>151989106
I vote for Tirpitz.
>>151989241
I think he if knew the scharnhorst had bad pen, he wouldn't have asked about it's pen. Stop being a cunt to him
>>151989106
>im a blue lining babbie
derpitz. you will mildly underuse it
>i cannot into BB and im a excellent CA captain
scharnhost. poor range and turrets are oversized heavy cruiser equivalents
>>151989106
Let me google that for you
>>151986793
>>151987912
My guess is that, since there's no point in forcing the Tioga meme here, and sine the shitposting that is facing this general is actually comparable to the one that /wotg/ had to face back in the day, you're either him or one of the circlejerk that plastered every single thread with truckloads of shitposts, and you all moved from WoT to WoWS when the latter was released.
>>151989246
>>151989395
is the tirpitz good?
>>151989395
>poor range
20km is plenty.
>>151989775
>BB dispersion
>low HE damage
>lolnopen unless target is a special snowflake kind of retard to get on tier 7 and not know of angling
its a terrible idea only dampened by the fact scharn would shoot faster. so you would miss faster.
>>151989420
wow you sould like a real know it all kid. glad we have a smug le im above it all enlightened in my knowledge faggots in herekys
>>151990000
The fuck does this have to do with its max range you retard
>>151990000
>>151990000
wow, my autism meter is spiking
>>151990120
its babbies like you that will get hatehost and dukekerer buffed
keep up the good work!
>>151990018
By the way you've farted your last brain cells out in that post, it seems my guess was right after all.
>>151985973
>I am between Haruna and Jake
Feels good
>>151990431
Let them work anon... let them work :^)
>>151990443
>le spelling miske meme
We get it you have a massive inferiority complex and you impress it upon others by being a pedantic bitch. It's pathetic. We literally are all LMAOing at your pathetic life in the ts right now
are CVs permanently dead now?
>>151985973
Is that good or bad? ;_; >>151985845
>>151990834
>we get
>we literally are all
>posts anime
>>151989420
>since there's no point in forcing the Tioga meme here
Well, I was just replying to a curious anon.
>sine the shitposting that is facing this general is actually comparable to the one that /wotg/ had to face back in the day
Not entirely, as I have already pointed out. This is nothing.
>you're either him
No. I'm not a humongous faggot.
>one of the circlejerk
Neither. But as time goes on and the events grow distant, I've grown to understand it better and appreciate it in a way, nefarious as they may have been.
>moved from WoT to WoWS when the latter was released.
That you are right.
>>151991342
I don't know what you think you mean but you probably mean it.
So if I have a hardon for secondaries (almost got the izumo), should I just stop at the amagi and grind german BBs instead?
>>151991516
your other option is wait for RN ships so id say yes
>>151991565
Is dasha right though about german BB secondaries being good, or is that WG bullshit?
Why does wave even come to the /vg/ channel anymore if the only people he plays with are OP gaming faggots and a few super unicums on his friend list?
Scharnhorst or Tirpitz or Atlanta??
>>151991712
wave is a princess
>>151991449
>Well, I was just replying to a curious anon.
Odd way to do that.
>This is nothing.
Shitposting... Shitposting never changes.
>No. I'm not a humongous faggot.
And yet you write about him in a very passionate way. Too much passionate. Suspiciously passionate, if you ask me.
>>151991816
Atlanta if you know someone with a Sims or Flint
Yes hello can boog use his obesity to kill Abrach again please. Thank you
IS THE TIRPITZ GOOD?
>>151992039
Atlanta + Sims is better than Flint
>>151991712
Okay Anumati, shitpost about wave and abrach somewhere else you paranoid retard.
>>151991827holy shit it's so true
>>151992260
True enough but Flint still has 2min smoke so the differences are minimal
>>151992007
>Shitposting... Shitposting never changes.
Nefarious, indeed. That's always a constant. But its magnitude and refinement do.
>And yet you write about him in a very passionate way
Oh I just write like that.
But you're right. Such events are well past us, and there's no good reason to keep revisiting them. Lets us put an end to this discussion and go back to our usual mishappenings.
>>151992229
JUST BUY THE DAMN TIRPITZ SHITTER
>>151992406
IS IT A GOOD BATTLESHIP?
IS IT BETTER THAN THE SCHARNHORST?
>>151992326
hmmm, Sims have the same smoke...
>>151992395
>I just write like that
y-you baka
>>151992039
>My face when playing with GFischer's Flint in my Atlanta on Estuary
>>151992520
A N S W E R M Y F U C K I N G Q U E S T I O N
>>151989370
Are you happy with yourself, anon? This is what happens when you spoon feed obviously stupid questions.
Hotel: Literally, the QTest.
>>151992757
Both are good, so buy both, problem solved
Thank me later
>>151992109
I would like to second this tbqh
>>151992757
TIRPITZ IS T8 AND SCHARN IS T7.
OF COURSE TIRPITZ IS BETTER YOU SHITTER
>>151993187
IS THIS HOW BALANCE WORKS????
>>151993115
I live on food stamps. What the fuck kind of ship do you think I'm running here?
>>151993410
Sounds like a personal problem to me
>>151993410
Pretty much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXX8URSUWm0
>>151985973
>TFW stuck 5 points below average
I blame only playing 10 games all summer. Rural life might be comfy as fug but internet options are terrible. It's either Dial-Up or Satellite.
Frankly I'm totally cool with average stats, hell I got smug as fug for my WTR finally hitting 'Great' last month.
Maybe if my average tier wasn't4.8it'd be higher.
>>151993543
Need a bote version
>samefag, avatarfag and namefag posts stops when Anumati is asleep or in a battle
Pure coincidence, I'm sure of it.
SUMMONING CHAIN
>>151993798
>Destroyers are scissors, Battleships are rock, Cruisers are paper. Carriers are mushrooms. Paper beats rock, scissors beats paper. Scissors also happens to beat rock, until rock hits tier 5 and becomes an unstoppable killing machine that also beats paper. And would beat scissors, but it can't find scissors because scissors are invisible. So rock beats paper and avoids scissors, and that is called balance.
It almost works as is.
http://na.wows-numbers.com/ship/3763287856,Scharnhorst/?order=average_damage_dealt__desc#leaderboard
>Raptor and Jake
Tell me your secrets, I can only muster 73k
>>151993187
is it atleast a good tier 8 battleship?
>>151994623
Raptor is a BB guy
>>151994623
The secret is simplePlay at non-primetime NA times. There is bound to be less people, so MM will give you better matchups more often. Plus a lot of retired grandpas play at those times, which are more likely to be terrible at the game.
>>151994112
your wish is my command
>>151994623
>Battleship_Scharnhorst is #35
SHAME UPON FAMIRY
>>151994796
FUCKING ANSWER ME YOU CUNTS
IS THE TIRPITZ GOOD?
>>151994590
>>151995256
Yes. Make sure to rely on its armor. Mostly it's prow.
>>151995585
how are the guns penetration wise?
>>151995585
fuck I love this picETA on german botes?
>>151995651
Decent. Its been a long time since I've played Derpitz. Sorry I can't answer it in more detail. Hopefully someone shitposts in knee jerk response and answers your question good.
>>151994623
>mfw top 3 or higher in every category for Scharn
damn son thanks for pointing this out, feels good to be the best.
Hard to give advice for the scharn desu, it's a really strange ship. I guess the main thing is constantly swap between HE and AP and make sure you utilize your stupidly good torp arcs.
>>151994590
>It almost works as is.
I agree, but I'll give it a shot anyway:
>Destroyers are scissors, Battleships are rock, Cruisers are paper. Carriers are mushrooms. Paper beats rock, scissors beats paper. Scissors also happens to beat rock, until rock hits tier 5 and becomes an unstoppable killing machine that also beats paper. But still it can't beat scissors, also because it can't find scissors because scissors are invisible. So rock beats paper and avoids scissors. In the meantime mushrooms flip a coin and see whether they will be able to beat rock, papers, and scissors in the battle or they won't be able to even get near to them, and that is called balance.
>>151995769
This Thursday with the start of Gamescom. Something is happening tomorrow I think.
>>151995842
thank you. I may buy it
>>151996114
No problem. Please enjoy your ship.Also the kneejerk shitpost response is too fucking predictable.
Here wowsg, I will grace you with a TOP 3 Scharn player webm
>>151996081
they literally said that german bb's will be live tommorow
>>151996858
That shit happened to me last night
>>151994590
>BBs can avoid DDs
You've got it completely ass-backwards my man.
>>151996081
>german botes this week
my body is ready
>amagi goes ape shit as I fail to live up to his expectations early in the match
>He vents his anger by shooting me
>Bomb him
>Once he's dead I carry us to victory
>Get chat banned by his complaints
Worth it.
>>151997304
>My face when Gneisenau will be amazing and WoWSG will be cucked
>>151997002
>>151997304
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/update-notes-0510/
The update happens August 17; preparation begins at 03:00 PT/ 06:00 ET until 05:00 PT/ 08:00 ET.
German Battleships
There's a new line of German battleships stretching from tier III to tier X, including Nassau, Kaiser, König, Bayern, Gneisenau, Bismarck, Friedrich Der Groβe, and Groβer Kurfürst. Perfect for players that love close-quarters combat. Here's what makes them distinctive:
Inclined armored decks that make it harder to hit their citadels at close range
Efficient secondary armaments
Main guns feature a high rate of fire and quick turret traverse
Plenty of hit points
Well-protected hull sides thanks to generous armor
Huh, anon is right.
The German BBs release tomorrow on update 5.10 for the NA server.
Update starts in 8 in a half hours.
>tfw you get top XP but it was chain who carried the game to victory
>>151997665
>get close quarter with BB
>turrets blowing up like fireworks on 4th of July
>get close quarter with CA
>get torped to hell
>get close quarter with DD
>get torped to hell and back
>get close quarter with CV
>HOW THE HELL DID YOU MANAGE THAT?
Warslut is the healthiest.
>>151997665
>The German BBs release tomorrow on update 5.10 for the NA server.
>Update starts in 8 in a half hours.
FUCKING YES
>Mogami is T8
>Cleveland, improved successor to the class developed to counter Mogami, is T6
>Next two ships in the line pre-date Cleve
How would you untangle this mess if you were in charge, /wowsg/?
>>151998440
USN CL line
>>151998440
>When a new US cruiser branch is released, USS Cleveland will be moved to a higher tier, whereas USS Baltimore might be moved to a lower tier.
Like this I guess.
>>151998440
>When a new US cruiser branch is released, USS Cleveland will be moved to a higher tier, whereas USS Baltimore might be moved to a lower tier. When all this will happen is unknown.
So then we end up with a CA and CL line
CL: Omaha T5 -> Brooklyn T6 -> St Louis 1938 T7 -> Cleveland T8 -> Fargo T9 -> Worchester T10
Brooklyn and St Louis can get shit turret traverse or range or something to offset the extra turret.
CA: Omaha T5 -> Pensacola T6 -> New Orleans T7 -> Baltimore T8 -> Oregon City T9 -> Des Moines T10
>>151998956
why would you want a failed ship like the worchester at 10?
>>151998956
>Brooklyn and St L38
>Cleve and Fargo
>NO, Balti and OC
What would differentiate these?
>>151998440
End the CL line at Omaha, with pensa at T6 and Portland at T7.
>>151988368
>raptor submitting his vod
Literally the most useful Raptor was during Team Battles.ily Raptor
>>151999174
just a reminder the worchester had a slower fire rate than the des memes and was fairly innacurate because bad design
>>151999543
reminder that Kirov could hardly shoot 2 rounds per minute
>>151999174
Because WG doesn't model failures and construction faults. Many of their stats are based mostly on designed performance rather than performance in practice. See Ruskie 180mm reload times and Yamato TDS.
And the Worcester has already been modelled in game as a T10 for months.
>>151999190
NO and Balti are actually pretty distinct designs already.
Cleveland/Fargo and Balitmore/Oregon City would be differentiated same way as Ibuki is differentiated from Mogami: increased range, healpot, soft stat improvements, etc.
>>151999590
Gameplay balance will come before historical accuracy torvarisch)))))))))))
>>151999404
>wasted
>died immediately during the match
>still got shekels
>mfwily2
>>151999848
So what kinda rpm do you think they're gunna give her.
>>151999967
12 RPM is what the autoloaders were designed for.
>>151995954
>top 3 or higher in every category
NO YOU'RE NOT, EAT IT.
>>151994623
The secret is to statpad in div. Shameful, I know.
Also, there's an awful lot of AWFUL Scharnhorst captains out there, and it's like the Scharn has made BB captains completely lose what few ounces of skill they have. I'm guessing they heard that the guns have laughable AP with bad pen, so a lot of these idiots just sail broadside to you at 10km. Hell yeah, I'm gonna farm 8k salvos off of your dumb fat sides every 20 seconds.
The other secret is to bow-on meme like a gaylord until everything with torpedoes is dead. Then, you charge the closest and most isolated BB and torp him as you watch his 14" and 16" shells bounce harmlessly off your A E S T H E T I C bow.
>>151999910
I remember the weekend they stopped doing the stream. Everyone was ready at 8PM EST, waiting for the stream to begin. It didn't. Everyone lost interest in TBs cuz no doubloons.
Of course WG tried to salvage the mode by giving a token ESCL flag as a reward for winning but it wasn't enough to sate our appetite for gibmedats
>>152000284
fug
>>151995954
Congratulations. Enjoy your time in the spotlight as brief as it may be, while I still haven't gotten one :^)
>>152000164
well thats gunna be boring seeing as desmoins reloads nearly as fast with better everything, if we end up getting some of the RN 6in autloaders with 20rpm its going to be even more underwhelming
>>152000804good luck with that
>>151965892
>Why are pay-to-win German BBs the most fun?
fixed
>>152000810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujoT_3XUp5M
Next NA giveaway when?I honestly feel bad for EU and SEA, not having any rich as fug anons to get them botes.
>>152001004
>he didn't buy glorious GERMAN STEEL
>>152001141
if it does happen that dumb slut jake better give the best player in this gen, me mako a scharnhorst
>>152001324
How does riding the blue line make you good?
>>152001404
post ur stats kid
>>152001141
Jedispam and AT_barrage are the EU good goys
AT_barrage even has a second NA account with a bunch of premium ships
>>152001464
https://na.warships.today/player/1001205971/WARBEASTY
>>152001464
>>152001584
>>152001975
I swear to god if you post that commie again kid
>>152001324
>>152001464
>>152002135
>kid
Considering your grammar used in your typing you're either 16, or from the third-world.In either case, I'm sorry :^)
>>151987778
Kirov has mad range, Budy can get 4 kills, tier 3 Cruiser can beat a Louise with the right skill.
>>152002404
whatever you say kiddster :^)
>>151994590
Battleships are scissors, Destroyers are rock, Cruisers are paper. Carriers are mushrooms. Rock beats scissors, paper also happens to beat scissors. Paper beats rock, until rock hits tier 8 and becomes an unstoppable killing machine that also beats paper. And would beat scissors, but it can't hit scissors because scissors are cruising the blue line. So rock beats paper and ignores scissors, and that is called balance.
>>152002529
You know tovarish, proper grammar and punctuation goes a long way in establishing a sense of not being a shithead.Not that you'll ever not be a shithead of course.
>>152002783
ok dudester
>>151998956
This is exactly the problem with the CL line for the US. I agree with this lineup, yet I've always been against it, and the idea of moving the Cleve to T8. The problem is that inevitably the Brooklyn goes in at T6, and the ironic thing is that the complaints about the Cleve are WORSE with the Brook. Really the main difference between the Brook and the Cleve is that the Brook has no 5 inch, but does have an extra triple 6'' turret, which would, with the way secondaries work (or rather DONT work) in this game, actually makes the Brooklyn BETTER than the Cleve. If anything, it almost makes more sense to put the Cleve at T6 and the Brook at T7, despite the chrono problems, the balance of the Brook and Cleve make tiering a nightmare.
Hotel's thighs are the _______.
>3 full salvos of Aoba HE to a Scharnhorst
>all 18 shells hit
>0 damage
>0 fires
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>152005426
GERMAN
STEEL
>>152005469
>3 Flint salvos
>3 fires 10k damage
>>152005108
bees knees
>>152005108
I'm hoping this one appears on stores. AFAIK, it's a lottery thingy, so I hope it doesn't get too much markup in the aftermarket.
>>152005108
To put stockings on her
>>152005108
Hotel's thighs are meant for licking
This was painful tho.
>KM BBs are build for brawling
Who's ready for supersaturated T3 games?
I know i am
I just kinda wish the line was released with another line like RN CA/CLs so we wouldnt see whole teams of nassaus tomorrow
>>152007781
implying there wont be 2 CVs per game and like 4 Isokazes trying to harvest sweet sweet BB tears
>>152006673
what was the base exp
>>152007847
Honesly, i might use tomorrow as a chance to grind my DDs and wait a week before starting KM BBs
>>152007781
>Bismarck vs Iowa
Would it have even been a fair fight? Given Iowa's better FCS?
>>152007781
>this artist
so based
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/5411797
>>152008221
>starving ducks resort to cannibalism
>>152008137
Better guns as well
>>152008096
4053
>>152008570
wew lad
>>152008137
No. WG even compares the two in their Iowa history video
In fact, the Iowa's fist mission was to patrol the north sea and intercept the Tirpitz if she ever broke out
>>152008642
Thanks!
>>152008816
Mini-Hotel is for _______.
Why son't we make fun of greg anymore?
>>152009212
I thought he was killed
>>152008914hugs :3
>>152009212
solo wr doesnt matter lmao fuck you
>>152008914
Treasuring, protecting, and raising like a proper lady.
>>152008221
>sancucku
fuck off faggot at least use a proper booru
>>152009509
>actually implying sankaku is not the superior booru
Neck yourself.
>>152009602
Danbooru with BBB is the best.
>>152009652
"no"
>>152009715
I bet you don't even know what BBB is.
>>152009509
Sankaku is the booru for when Danbooru/Gelbooru used to place ads and timeouts.
Danbooru is the booru for translations.Danbooru is no longer annoying with ads, but I still use sankaku out of habit.Both are fine, even if Sankaku gets its content a bit later.
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/5496273
>You'll never maka a battleship ahegao with your virgin shota dick.
>>152009853
>those browsing settings
disgusting
>>152010196
>its too late for me to be the /ss/
don't remind me
>spoonfeeding and giving away hints to retards.
Come on, don't give newfags like anumati anything.
Newfags should lurk two years before posting ok kiddster
>>152009602
>being a disgusting normie
kysmm
>German BBs come out tomorrow
I can't wait. My Katori was getting hungry.
Кaкaя нaзывaeтcя этo cтpaнa ?
BEST BOTE SOON!
>>152012759
mein niggra
Anyone wanna do a t7 division with a Scharn buddy?
>>151999848
>NO and Balti are actually pretty distinct designs already.
In-game? The only things that the Balti seems to have over NO are the healpot and the final upgrade slot. Do they change the playstyle that much?
Goodnight /wowsg/~
Can't wait for tomorrow's patch!
>>152012759
But the best bote is already here
>>152013825
Keep telling yourself that
im only here to play carriers. do i grind americans or japs?
>>152015319
Japs
>>152015319
IJN are generally considered to be better.
>thread dies after NA goes to bed
Typical
>>152015319
US are superior if you are good enough
>>152015412
>>152015427
>>152015750
And if you play in CBT still.
>>152015543
I enjoy the peace and quiet.
>>152015543
Honestly I'm waiting for German Babbyships so my low cruisers can get games without having to face 4 Scharnhorsts
which nation has the FASTEST low tier destroyers?
i wanna go FAST
>>152017605
Soviets. In exchange you turn like a cruiser, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ym6sUNwt4
N-no homo.10/10 Would division again.
>>152017663
hmm ok not sure i dig that tradeoff, which destroyers turn fast and have good torps?
Anyone else put thought into the names and faces of there captains?
Its the little things...
>started playing game a few days ago
>playing the first jap cruiser that has torpedos
>ive killed like half a dozen ships as they came around the corners of islands with torpedos now
why is this game so much fun?
>>152018718
IJN -- best torps worst guns, IIRC pretty good turn on low tier
USN -- average torps, okay guns.
Vodka -- cruisers without citadels
>>152013053
Baltimore get suborbital arcs, and is actually tanky.
>>152020312
thanks family
why would i want guns on my destroyers anyway?
>>152020712
Because 6 guns with Demolition Expert (DE) and 20 RPM is a good firestarter
And Khaba has 55%+ recent WR not because of his torps
I haven't played Mogami since CBT. Are her 155mm still fun or did the nerf ruin her?
Are IJN still wroth it?
>>152021267
>Are IJN still wroth it?
Sure m8 they still have best HE to annoy the hell out of BB and Zao still maintains her cloacking devide.
And if you were talking about other classes, than Hotel is always worth it, and IJN CV are better than USN
>>152021519
Yeah, I meant IJN CA. I'm on FurryTaco but haven't had much desire to go above that.
>>152021971
Furrytaco is about as good as it gets. Matchmaking absolutely fucks the next 2 ships.
>>152021971
The Mogami is probably the low point of the entire line now, the 155s have been made as painful to use as possible and the 203's make it basically a Myoko with worse MM. As a whole though the line is really pretty good, there's no real turds in there these days and you really can't go too wrong compared to the other lines.
>>152022063
>Matchmaking absolutely fucks the next 2 ships.
It's fucked right now, I'm getting Scharns in my IV game. Fucking dumb, I thought they fixed this shit. But I guess no one plays this game because it's shit.
>>152022180
>Mogami is the low point
I remember when she was the most fun since you could switch between CL and CA. I loved her first guns because the reload was amazing and you could spam HE on everything. Sad to hear it's gone, it'll be missed.
>>152022401
Yeah, she's partially the reason why they're forcing the single gun choice on the gneisenau, with the stock guns she was horrifically OP and they had to hammer her with a bunch of nerfs to get rid of that, ultimately to the point where now she has two mediocre choices on a thoroughly mediocre ship that looks even worse thanks to the inevitable comparison to the Atato (which is what ultimately killed her for me).
>>152022303
>tfw don't have to deal with them because WG shows no indication of releasing them here any time soon
we don't even have fucking gamescom as an excuse to delay it
Des Moines
>entered service 1948
Zao
>year of design 1941
Hindenburg
>year of design 1940
Moskva
>year of design 1953
>>152023146
Is of balanse and fine))))))))))))))))))
>Gearing was the best DD in the world
>WG can't buff her 5inches without making Atlanta OP and secondaries ridiculous
>Gearing is forever gimped
Sad.
>>152024331
Good. USN DDs need to be nerfed into the ground.
German BBs in 3 hours desu
>>152024979
t. Japclap DD
>>152024331
I thought that was the Khabarovsk???
>>152024331
>best DD in the world
>never even saw any action
Yeah alright haha
>>152025582
t. whiny Ameriburger baBBy
>>152025667
>Khabarovsk
Never existed.
>>152025257
>My classes will start soon so no botes for me for like 7 hr
FUCK
>>152025725
>Fletcher was the best DD
>Gearing improved on everything the Fletcher was
Use your brain.
>>152026083
That statement does not necessarily support your claim
Examine your logic
>Bismarck has no torps
What is this shit?
>>152024979
and BBs afterwards
I've thought it's a common agreement that USA can't have nice things
>>152026128
There were other destroyers around the world to compare it to and Gearing beat them all.
>>152026205
But she has 7km secondaries, that's good enough, comrade
>>152026205
>>152027547
>Better AA than Tirpitz
>Died to a plane in history
Good work, WG.
>Be EU
>Gamescom started today
>STILL no info of Scharnhorsts release
Why do they hate my Shekels?
>>152028617
>be SEA
>nothing around that they could possibly be waiting to release it with
>STILL no info of Scharnhorsts release
What moron is deciding on these release dates?
>>152028765
Gee, I sure do wonder...
>>152028825
Don't the regional offices decide on the release dates for their servers though?
>>152028863
If thats the case, then you must really wonder who could be behind them.
ded
Tier VIII Premium Italian Littorio Class BB Roma when?
Bongs cruiser line (?)
>>152030693
And the whole world held it's breath.
>>152030693
Interesting to note that they're all light cruisers.
I like to chanel my inner pirate with some rum, so maybe my sight isn't the best but I swear to fucking god I just saw a russian battleshi[
What's this fuckery?
>>152030693
>>152030693
as someone who pretty much never paid any attention to the bongs is there anything really notable there?
>>152031064
If you're at T4 yeah there's one, it's pretty rare because they put it on sale once, realized it was hella OP and never put it on sale again.
>>152031064
Perphaps was Nikolai
>>152031056
Maybe a future design choice? Splitting the cruiser line into light and heavy cruisers.
>>152031135
The Royal Navy had a huge part in both world wars, lots of people were expecting the RN before the russian line, even the devs admit releasing the russian line was a bit of a mistake.
>>152031135
I saw it's like 10 times the last two days. If this is rare, I'm the queen of fucking england.
>>152030693
Oh and there's me royal navy. Sup, cunts? Fuck 'em up for king and country! God bless me. I'd tos a bottle of champagne at it but all I gots rum,.
>>152031103
I thought ur dead into your job
>>152031270
Yeah I'm well aware of that, but I don't know their ships well so I have no idea if any of those ones are particularly famous for whatever reason, that's what I'm curious about
>>152030693
Why does it look like the Minotaur is sporting more turrets than she actually had?
>>152031508
sekrit dokuments upgrade))))))))
>>152030693
Tier X
https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/4vek58/british_tier_x_minotaur_class_cruiser_design/?st=iryrlzx8&sh=67dbf455
>leddit
5 x 2 152mm guns with 15-20 RPM, arranged like mogami
>>152026205
Her secondaries get 10.5km range when upgraded.
>>152031584
>secondaries
>secondaries at range
>>152030693
What national peculiarity does it have?
>>152031584
For real? Holy fuck, screw japanese destroyers, I'm going for german, then. Zeit zu fucken shit up!
>>152031684
Which is why the Tirpitz is the best Bismarck.
>>152031754
It comes equipped with 200mm tea kettles.
>>152030693
>Hood will be a Battleship
I was hoping it would be a high tier cruiser.
>>152031565
So literally initial design draft of the Minotaur class and not the final version......kek. I could maybe get behind a t10 155mogami if Brit HE/gun handling isn't complete dogshit.
>20rpm 6in guns
>3 in secondaries with 90rpm
Seriously doubt WG would allow this
>>152031584
MUH
DICK
>>152031873
That's actually alright.
>>152030693
Something looks off with this line, are any of those even heavy cruisers?
>>152031754
The T10 looks like a mega Atlanta with twin quad torp tubes on each side and absurd amounts of 90rpm secondaries.
So maybe a high rate of fire, combined with good, short range torps and absurd secondaries?
>>152031910
>15" guns
I have no clue how you could possibly ever think it was going to be in the cruiser line
Like what made you even consider it?
>>152032226
not him, but i mean, it is a battlecruiser, and and it has shit for armor?
>>152032316
The Kongo and Amagiand the Iowa and North Carolinaare Battlecruisers.
>>152032316
any barrel above 200mm makes it bb designation
>>152032316
and bigger guns than most of the BBs in the game.
it flat out isn't anything remotely like WG's idea of a cruiser, they have very clearly shown that they're classing battlecrusiers as BBs
it's not like we have nothing to go off either, the Scharnhorst and Dunkek are BBs, and they're even closer to the high tier cruisers we have in the game than the Hood is.
>>152030693
Too much CLs.
>>152032475
Above 220mm you mean.
Otherwise all of the CAs in the game would be BBs because they all have 203's, and the Yorck has 210 while the Moskva gets 220.
>>152032060
we're looking at a full 6in CL cruiser line m8
>>152032584
it's a inch thing so that's about right
>>152032226
Because it will be a mid tier BB then because shit armor. I imagine 5 or 6, would rarely see Bismarck.
>>152032437
>kongo
ehh, debatable. it was built as a battlecruiser, but the rebuilds turned into a fast battleship. NC and Iowa are proper battleships, but they are focused on speed. dunno about amagi, since it was never actually built to the spec in the game
>>152032475
that would make most of the heavier cruisers in the game BBs, since they have 203mm (and one 210mm). or you maybe meant above that?
Stil raises a question about the Coureageous class, if that ever goes into the game, because those things had absolutely fucking no armor
>>152030693
>nothing but CL's
yeah glad I never cared about bongbotes, I'm not here to play an Atlanta for 10 tiers.
>>152032736
>never played a Atlanta
it's fun m8
ill enjoy grindam the bong line, it won't feel the same every other line did
only real shame is their armor. will be sad to see DDs hurting them with ap
>USN and Soviets have radar
So Britain will have radar too since it seems the allies get it.
>>152033125
Hopefully they will have smoke
>>152032702
>Because it will be a mid tier BB then because shit armor
And?
They'll throw it in T6 so historyfags can blow it up with the Bismark and we already have a number of 15" guns there already. There's really no issues that would make them change their entire design philosophy to shoehorn in a 1920's Battlecruiser with 15" guns into the cruiser line at T10.
>>152032878
What? I have an Atlanta and have fun in it (same with the Kutuzov for that matter), but I also have a bunch of 203 armed ships, and I know which ones I'd rather fight Yamato's in.
>>152031684
Since they did not nazi debuff Karslruhe and Konigsberg, I guess that the ssecondaries will have ok accuracy and firepower (after skill upgrades)
>anusmati has been asleep for hours
>shitposting nowhere to be seen
makes you think
>>152033187
Except I hate when I have tier 8s in my tier 6 games. If the MM is fixed like they keep saying it is, then I should never see Bismarck.
>>152031508
RNG determines number of turrets. Is of balance cyka
>>152033272
If you're tier 5/6/7, you always be bottom tier. WG fucked up when they "fixed" mm.
>>152033272
The game has -/+2 MM outside of the low tiers for better or worse, they're not changing that so that T6's can never see T8's no matter how much you don't like being bottom tier.
None of their fixes lately have been to change that so I don't know what you're on about, it's supposed to be about matching equal stuff for the role/tiers between the teams, not to make you never see anything two tiers above you.
>>152033197
Sure they'll be better than other secondaries, but they'll still have the same problem that limits other secondary builds, namely that you're investing stuff into guns that will now just miss all of their shots at even further ranges and still be inconsistent as fuck outside of point blank range.
If you killsteal 600 hp tergets with your carrier you are a mouthbreather and will enjoy regular bans and no support.
>>152033626
Why do you care about kills anyway?
http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/58989-odem-mortis-community-cup-omc-cup/
>1st Prize: 9x Prinz Eugen-chan
REFUGEES UNITE
Is the extra hp upgrade good or only on destroyers ?
>>152033736
I don't, but it is still unsportive and poor play.
>>152033794
only ever take it on DD
>>152033914
thanks, fellow seanon
>>152033736
Probably because they give a extra chunk of rewards independent of how much damage you actually did to get the kill.
Also he's probably more complaining about the fact that the CV could have just taken a massive chunk off someone else instead of doing 50 damage to someone that was going to die anyway, which mean he pretty much wasted that squadron of planes for a pretty long period of time.
>>152033794
Only on DDs.
I die inside every time I see some fucking dude in a Hotel/Monty with over 100k HP because he took the HP perk.
>>152033626
This so fucking much, it's what every carrier does after tier 8 to pad their WTR.
>>152033739
are you implying a /wtg/-refugee team?
>>152033794
Due to HE damage mechanic it is perfect for DD.
>>152033991
>/wtg/ refugees
I don't want those.
we're yuros have formed a refugee team ingame
>>152031565
>15-20 RPM
how can gearing even compete?
>>152034384
Gearing doesn't have a citadel.
>>152034384
by not having a citadel :^)
>>152030495
>WG
>Acknowledging the existence of Italy
>ever
>>152033739
>9 boats for a 12-15 man team
W-what
>>152034384
WG will probably give her detection range of Big Ben
>>152035152
Slightly-less-than-official word on the matter is that 'First line of Italian ships after the first line of French ships, both in 2017'
Expect the first Italan prem in the next six months.
NA, got a 720mb update, then a 1085 mb update? what is it?
>>152036131
Mate are you a fucking retard
>>152036131
The servers are not up yet anyway, so no hurry.
>>152036167
don't answer my question with an answer anon, i'm sitting here unable to play, what is in this update?
>>152036278
Literally kill yourself
delet this is offence
t. luis
>>152036364
Why is there a brick where the bridge should be
why can't bongs into aesthetics? I had to filter that picture of Belfast, was literally gonna make me puke if I had to look at it any longer
>>152036513
kill yourself kiddster
>Leningrad
>>152036780
you have to be some kind of degenerate to find that bridge attractive. I hope you don't reproduce
>ah yes this 800mb download is done, time to
>second download
REEEEEE
>>152036364
She was dead, But it was alright.
>>152026205
Best girl doesn't need a gimmick to rule the waves
IT'S UP
>>152037191
[Muffled Linkin Park song in the background]
>>152037191
>Prinz bleeding out and being left to die
DELETE THIS
>matchmaker shits itself
>>152037568
That's why I'm waiting. Or use free xp to skip ahead
I-I ate torpedo on purpose for the unsinkable medal.
H-Honest
>>152037568
Time for Umikaze
>>152037191
>Prinz ded while Bisko looks on
shouldn't it be the other way around?
>>152037568
Which server is that?
>>152037965
Not to mention the DDs Z1 and Z3. Read their history they sunk trying to save each other. It's kinda funny
>other servers have both the German BBs and the Scharnhorst
>we still have neither
christ sometimes I wish I didn't have all these ships so I could just leave SEA and move to one of the not shit servers
>>152037684
So this is why most of BB got fireproof so easily
>>152038121
EU will only get them tomorrow, calm your tits.
>>152038115
EU is cucked AGAIN
fucking reee
>>152038294
>>152038265
I don't get it, is there a real reason for these delays between servers?
>>152038081
No bully.
>>152038753
It's so eu have to wait
>>152038826
They're cute and helpful girls
>>152038846
NA is the only one of the 3 western servers that has gotten any of the new content.
>>152038826
FAAAAG
>>152038934
They are girls.
>>152039065
>"""""girls"""""
>Britain has nothing but CLs
Hear that? That's the sound of over pen
>>152039065
Mein Z1 Freund.
>>152039141
They clearly are.
>>152039171
Sounds more like citadels to me.
NASSAU IS CUTE
CUUUUUUUUUUUUTE!
>>152039240
>cruisers
Those are drawings of something resembling a girl.
>>152039289
Go fuck yourself with a rake you fucking NAutist.
>>152039289
140k more damage and Abru would shitpost about you too, be careful with how much damage you deal, mkay? Good.
And this is why I only play DDs.
>its a t10 go bow on and slug it out for the rest of the match episode
GR8 MEME! upvoted!
>back to the low tiers
>all these noobs not knowing how AP works and what a citadel is
>all those accusations of being a hacker
S E A L C L U B B I N G T I M E
>106
>>152039357
>I detect some butthurt in this sector Captain
>like T6 ships
>playing them seems pointless because I can't remember the last time I queued up and wasn't bottom tier in them
>it's only going to get even more ridiculous when they bring out the scharnhorst
epic
Love having to wait 15 minutes for every battle to finish haha
>>152040769
You have no idea how bad it is
>tfw already have enough free XP to just breeze down most of the German BB line to the few ships that might not be complete garbage
>>152041019
The Nassau is fine
>>152031056
That's because the British philosophy during the period had a huge deficiency in actual Heavy Cruiser designs. They almost flat out abandoned them. You were either a light cruiser for escort and patrol (especially against convoy raiders). Or you were a Battlecruiser because you could anything that any heavy cruiser but better and had the range to patrol the vast British empire.
Do note that a lot of the cruisers in the British tree are actually sub classes of a class.
>>152040387
>NA fags think this is a lot
>>152040186
And ? you were a noob too, just at a different point in time.
>>152039357
>>152041121
After playing through both T3s several times over and again recently I have no confidence that it's going to be anything but complete garbage.
The only ones I have any hope for are the T6/7/8
WG give Regia Marina
NAO
>>152041226
>implying I care for Bisko when I have her superior sister
>implying I'm not lusting after GK and Scharnhorst
tfw no one NA to play new german BBs with
>>152041302
Nao?
>>152041334
>lusting after GK
>>152041365
DESS
>>152039065
Why the fuck don't they wear trousers ffs it triggers me
>>152041334
How does it make you feel to know that I'm playing with German BBs RIGHT NOW luger?
>>152041336
>tfw no new german BBs to play with
Bismarck is cute!
CUTE!Though not as cute as Hotel, the literal QTEST.
>>152041493
I don't see you complaining about Bismarck.
>>152041549
Like I'm in some sick NTR doujin on Sadpanda
>>152041606
good taste desu
>>152041693
Don't worry Luger, I'll treat them right
>its a luger and NAutists samefag episode
Gr8
>>152041830
S-Sure.
>>152041924
How would you feel if I spent $60 American Dollars to jump straight into playing Bismarck?
>>152041493
Not familiar with Humikane, I see.
>>152042048
That's fine. Probably will do that myself. I'll mostly check out Tier V, VIII and X.
I have Tirpitz already so I probably won't keep her anyway.
>>152042048
tell me if thats worth it
those tier 5-7seems pretty promising tbqh
>>152042150
>won't keep her anyway
and you call yourself a German
>>152042150
>>152042215
Eh, I REALLY want to, but I think this line is gonna be crazy fun so probably just gonna grind it and free xp upgrades.
>>152042229
Why? I have her superior sister already. Plus, Prinz is on her way too, so I can sell my Hipper too.
The problem is that Bismarcks 3k doubloon camo doesn't turn her into a premium ship with which you can train captains. Secondaries are a meme anyway.
>>152041693
That's some particularly detailed cooking.
>Roleplaying in a slav bote game because there is a character called prinz eugen in another gook game
That's cute but also very autistic.
>>152041632
This one can be considered a dress, the others are just shirts without pants.
>>152042384
>Why?Love<3
is it possible to file a lawsuit against WG for racism towards Italy?
>>152042778
I'm still waiting for my one, true boatfu to be released.
>get shafted with no scharnhorst or German BBs because of weeb server
>getting nothing but bottom tier MM
>find out there's nothing I can do about my 1/350 hotel getting lost in the post
just
>>152042856
Graf is a qt too, butBisko is best girl
also
>playing CVs
>>152042982
I like playing IJN CVs. Shokaku is fun. I just wish the controls were tighter.
>>152030693
>No county class heavy cruisers
gg WG, gg
>>152042905
>find out there's nothing I can do about my 1/350 hotel getting lost in the post
What happened? The postal office confirmed the package is lost? No way to at least claim insurance and have the store send you another?
>>152030693
>All light cruisers
>not heavy cruisers
)))))))))))))))))))
IT FOR BALANCE
)))))
HMS HOOD AND ADMIRAL CLASS ARE BATTLSHIPS
))))))))
RENOWN CLASS IS BATTLESHIP
))))))))
These fucking slav apes. Why do all interesting Free to play games like War thunder and War gaming have slav chimp devs?
>>152039171
I overpen Cleveland for 15k :^)
>kaiser developed before könig
What did germans mean by this?
>>152043710
SEKAI ICHI
>>152043542
The whole line is stupid. I was expecting them to perhaps put the county-class CA at tier 7 and the town-class CL at tier 8 since it's comparable to the Kutuzov (at least HMS Belfast is). There are a couple of known CA designs that were considered in the late 1930s early 1940s that could have been used at tiers 9 and 10. But no, WG decided to shit the bed on this one. Probably because of all the complaints they got for using paper ships for most of the Russian cruisers.
>>152043980
Edinburgh is a Town class
>>152044150
I know. But it's strange they went for Edinburgh instead of her more famous sister ship Belfast, although she may be premium.
>>152044280
Belfast is already confirmed as a premium, hell someone posted the screenshot of it earlier in the thread.
>>152043980
So it's Ok when the germans and russians get paper ships, but not anyone else?
>>152044776
wtf this is clearly a forgery, you can tell from the perspective used that this is a fake!!11
>>152044776
Großer confirmed for tallest girl
>>152016707
Mate, you just have to get your secondaries into action. All the deficiencies of your air wing will be more than compensated for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcWaSMuJDYA
>>152022303
>It's fucked right now, I'm getting Scharns in my IV game.
Impossible. The max T4s can see is T5 (unless they're in a div with a T5).
>>152026205
Historically accurate.
>>152033272
>>152033383
Currently, there are two main brackets once you get past T4: T7 battles and TX battles. Playing T8 is horrible right now because you get put into TX games all the time - very rarely are T8s top tier.
>>152038924
>3 western servers
>>152040186
Only time I've ever been accused of hacks was when I took 20k off a Mogami with the first two salvoes from my NO.Mk1 Eyeball too stronk.
>>152043542
>>152043980
>>152044483
And here we see the predicted English butthurt.
>>152044483
I think WG may be trying to cut down on the number of paper ships they use. When RN BBs come in tier 10 and possibly tier 9 will be paper ships I recon. However, while it would seem that they can populate the British cruiser line without the use of paper ships (although Minotaur may be a paper design that was rejected for the final design of the class), I think it's a bad idea as it may leave the high tier cruisers rather noncompetitive without some major rigging
>>152043149
No idea, I didn't have tracking and it's been three and a half months since I ordered it.
I also didn't realize that I'd waited too long to see if it would turn up so ebay's 'your shit didn't turn up' thing already expired.
>>152045090
supreme aryan genetics
>>152044483
Teebs are the worse kind of boos. They always want to get the most OP stuff and cry when they get stomped in their rapemachines because they don't know how to use them.
>>152045173
Did you try contacting the vendor directly?
>>152045129
Well when they ignore an entire class of heavy cruisers (two if you include the Hawkins-class), what did you expect
>>152045173
oh
>>152045108
>EU/NA/SEA
RU is always a bit different with WG and China is just so far removed that it might as well be a completely different game.
>>152045441
>SEA
>western
>>152045294
Yes, I'm complaining about how bad they are, when they aren't even ingame. Calm down you jeb end
>>152045129
>it's ok that they completely skipped the main cruisers that the bongs used and instead swapped them with light cruisers
oke
>>152045530
>AU/NZ
>>152045167
Oh, and the Neptune is a paper design. Why then they didn't just go for the CA paper designs that are out there escapes me
All this screaming about "muh RN where" for years and there's still no pleasing them teaboos.
Whatever, they got their line, now gib my Pr. 23, WG.
>>152045853
Basically a Russian NC
>>152045853
That looks retarded as shit.
>>152045853
>fat short bow
>BIG HONKIN GUNS
>Thick armor
So a T10 New Mexico?
>>152045853
>still no pleasing them teaboos.
no wonder. the line is a joke
It misses their most used cruisers and replaces them with light cruisers that were barely used. Also, fuck off slavaboo. you already have enough paper shit with made up stats
>>152045853
>The failure of the Soviet armor plate industry to build cemented armor plates thicker than 230 millimeters (9.1 in) would have negated any advantages from the Sovetsky Soyuz class's thicker armor in combat.
>>152045950
Russian Iowa, more like. Given dev posts on the forums, it's practically guaranteed to go on T9 with Pr. 24 as the T10 Russian Montana.
>>152045853
>country with no navy manages to design a better looking BB than the bongs
>>152046115
"design" being the key word
Everything the slavs made looked good on paper. then when they make them they are dogshit
>>152046073
>It misses their most used cruisers and replaces them with light cruisers that were barely used.
Welcome to the CL/CA split. CAs go in a separate line and WG has repeatedly said this is the way it should've been done with Cleveland, for instance.
>Also, fuck off slavaboo. you already have enough paper shit with made up stats
Top kek m8. It's more real than whatever teaboos will get for their high tier BBs.
>>152046115
>bongs
>sense of style
Krauts are the most aesthetic so far, even though majority of their ships are trash.
>>152045638
>the main cruisers that the bongs used
But that is the point you fucking retard.
The 'main cruisers' they used were shit-tons of 6" armed light cruisers to protect muh empire.
The only 8" armed cruisers they had were a bunch of 1920s built Washington cruisers.
PLus some WW1 leftoevers with 7.5" guns, but it'S better for everyone if we just forget about those.
And then, in classic English fashion, they made a treaty and cucked themselves out of building tonnage and numbers for more heavy cruisers and kept shitting out light cruisers.
Japan, France and Italy just told them to fuck off, the US said 'whatever, we have so many shipyards we can build all the tonnage we need in two years flat anyway', but the English congratulated themselves on the brilliant diplomatic success anyway.
>mfw people still believe WG is going to split the BB and CL/CA lines into separate CL and CA lines and Battlecruiser lines
>>152046579
I love the feeling of being cucked due to expectations.
>>152046458
I wish I could go back in time and slap the admiralty in the face for their incompetence. At least increase the max cruiser displacement to 12,000 tons and increase the maximum tonnage of ships you can have. Also don't bother with second London treaty. Japan and Italy won't accept, which means the US won't accept so just accept that it's a bad idea.
>>152046283
>paper
>IT'S MORE REAL THAT ANYTHING YOU HAVE!!!1!
At least the bong navy aren't a bunch of illiterate apes that lose every naval battle that fought
>>152046458
there was not a single part of what you just said, that is even remotely correct.
The cruisers we're getting in the tree are light and AA cruisers used to protect retarded slav convoys in the arctic. the main cruisers the British used Were Renown, Admiral class and county class were the main combat role cruisers. You're literally talking out your ass
Advancing down a single line is so fucking slow when you need to wait for a battle to end Jesus Christ
>>152047040
>paper
Laid down and scrapped only due to the war breaking out. I bet you think CA and DD lines are 100% paper, too.
What the hell are those?
>>152047435
I'd guess they're for storing boats on while you're not using them
>>152046798
There was no plan in 1922 beyond 'well shit we can't keep building ships because we're flat out of money, let's try and trick everyone into a treaty'
The tonnage limits were a mix between 'this will cost us mothing' on Britain's part and 'let's keep things as cheap as possible' on the US' part.
Japan accepted more out of the same realization that struck Britain, they could literally not keep buiding at the same rate the US were going.
They fully realized that the US would reach Britain's two-power-standard before 1930, the fact that the US had broken into the code and was thus able to push down Japanese demands to the minimum they knew would be accepted turned out to rather meaningless in hindsight.
Italy didn't really give a fuck because they limits were not much beyond what their financial situation dictated, though France had to face the fact that they were a second-rate power from that point on.
Ultimately, the main reason why they accepted was that they could literally not afford to keep building at the rate they were going.
Japan could've gone on and finish the Tosas, Amagis and Kiis, but they realized that they'd essentially bankrupt themselves and the US would simpy keep building.
The US had the money and yard capacity to outbuild everyone, and part of the British plan was to limit this.
>>152047435
I believe those are battleship cannons, did you know they can rotate on their turret?
>>152047956
Fair enough. Although I would still push for a 12,000 ton max displacement on cruisers. Or design the county-class cruisers to use three triple 8" gun turrets instead of 4 double turrets. Could save some weight to add to the armour. Basically, my ideal design would be the 3 triple turrets and a London subclass design with 8 4" secondaries, and perhaps a bit more armour if there was room.
It's nice to share sometimes
>>152049010
what is this
I'm new to these threads, is Raptor entirely full of himself all the time or is it only recently?
>>152049372
He's addicted to webms.
>>152049372
Why don't you find out for yourself?
>>152049636
Stop that
>>152049372
The story of F22xRaptor - Courtesy of Luger-chan.
>>152049794
Holy shit and this is the guy who brags about being so good?
LMAO
>>152049372
>British cruisers are announced.
>Teeaboos mad because they didn't get the ship they wanted.
Is there no pleasing these autists?
>>152049794
>raptor blown the fuck out by a shitter in a mutsuki
>>152047040
>there was not a single part of what you just said, that is even remotely correct.
Please provide some sort of proof. Everything I wrote was factually correct.
>The cruisers we're getting in the tree are light and AA cruisers used to protect retarded slav convoys in the arctic.
Which was just about the main role of the RN.
Well,except the AA part.
Those are 6" armed, 'light' cruisers. Britain built dozens of them. They are THE RN cruiser of the interwar period and WW2.
>the main cruisers the British used Were Renown, Admiral class and county class were the main combat role cruisers. You're literally talking out your ass
'Admiral' class cruiser? Oh, you mean Hood, right? Well, that one is a battlecruiser, not an actual cruiser. And it sort of blew up when it ran into a battleship, like all those idiotic Fisher designs before it proved beyond doubt at Jutland. Not that proof beyond doubt ever stopped the RN from insisting on being completely retarded.
Refit and Repair fall into the same category. Luckily they ran away as designed whenever they saw an actual battleship, and thus avoided the usual fate of the battlecruiser.
One managed to die to an air strike within range of a friendly air base, a feature unheard of before and since, but hey, it was the RN.
The other one ran away from an Italian battleship once, and then did nothing until they scrapped her post-war.
The Counties (and Yorks) were actual cruisers. Treaty cruisers, if we want to be precise, later reclassified into heavy cruisers.
They'd fit into WoWS at t6 and t7.
But beyond that, there is not much you could fill the tree with. Hawkins for t4 or maybe t5, I guess, but there is just not much else.
>>152050084
What do you mean they never got what they wanted? Just curious. I mean the whole tree is basically CL.
>>152050336
Pretty much it stopped dead there. The only thing you could get as a CA was the 1940 design specifications and study.
>>152050336
you know a person is upset, when they bring up Bismarck vs hood
but they forget the Bismarck was sink by a biplane and a ship that was literally both backwards and from 1922
>Bismarck kills a cruiser
>wins
>BEST SHIP EVER
>Bismarck fights a ship of it's own category
>loses
>DELET THIS IT WAS JUST A STROKE OF LUCK
>BISMARCK NEVER SUNK ONLY SCUTTLED
Tell more more about such great battleships like the graf spee, scharnhorst and tirpitz. how did they all end up?
>>152049963
That's right. The same shitter who brags about his *RECENT* 1,394 blueshitter WTR.
>mfw he actually thinks he's on the same level as wave, slay, abrach, mako.
>mfw he "banters" abru, despite abru being an actual purple who carries his shit everyday
>>152050336
>Bismarck argument
yep, typical naziboo.
I bet you have a stroke when you see a picture of the HMS Rodney.
If the British navy was so bad, how did the germans get beaten by them so hard?
>>152050776
> >mfw he "banters" abru, despite abru being an actual purple who carries his shit everyday
That's objectively wrong. Abru gets carried by better players.
>>152050547
I mean, people in this thread were bitching endlessly about how they're weren't any British ships, but as soon as they are announced, they bitch about not getting the specific ship they wanted.
>>152048486
Like I said, there was no plan, no concept of 'let's make this treaty so that we can build some specific design later'
The treaty ws simply set up in a way that allowed Britain to keep the Hawkins class in service.
The 10,000 ton 8" designs all ended up as rather lacking in various ways because of this, and you can see in the emerging designs how everyone realized by the mid 30s that to make a good design you had to essentially ignore the treaty limits.
I fully agree that a somewhat more balanced (same armament, but armored agasint 8" hits)design would've required around 14,000 tons, with almost all of the additional tonnage going into protection.
>>152050117
we already know raptor has a torpedo magnet in his buttcheeks
a kuma could sink him
>its a RN vs KM shitlfinging episode
noone cares about your non-navies
who got a tier 5 destroyer and wants to play on NA right now?
>>152050891
"No".
https://na.warships.today/player/1004980543/AbrudolfLincler
>1529 recent WTR
>1437 overall WTR
>65% overall WR
I mean, he's not the best ever, but he's pretty good himself already. I was actually surprised when I went to check his stats, didn't expect him to have improved so much. Hats off to the lad,
Keep it up abru, and don't let anyone tell you off. Especially raptor. It's fine to div with lesser players, but don't let them push you around.
>>152050336
Repulse went down because of the idiot in charge of Force Z he was a BB admiral and didn't belive aircraft could threaten capital ships. Yes even after the FAA hit Taranto and
the IJN blitzed Pearl this asshat refused to recognise the threat and sailed the entire task force to it's death then refused to call for help even after he was attacked.
>tfw stuck at work and can't play shiny new german BBs.
>>152051381
>Not posting the softer dragon
smhtbqhfam
>>152051030
There were a series of 6 design studies from 1939 to 1940 for a new class of heavy cruiser in response to the Admiral Hipper.
First of which was the a pretty standard three triple 8 in turret with 8 inch belt and 3 inch armor.
The studies eventually evolved into a 22,000 ton design with twelve 9.2 inch guns and 7 inch belt armor to be effective against 8 inch shells up to around 10,800 yards . They initially planned to build 3 of them but decided it wasn't worth it.
Building two of the Vanguard class battleships was more cost effective so they went with that.
>Ocean port has whalesong now
This is pretty comfy.
Gah fuck!
>>152050849
>Bismarck argument
What argument?
>I bet you have a stroke when you see a picture of the HMS Rodney.
No, she has fine lines and a balanced look, far more aesthetic than any otheroil tanker.
Design-wise, the only critique I can come up with is her underwater protection. The troubles with her turrets are blown out of proportion.
>If the British navy was so bad, how did the germans get beaten by them so hard?
That haas a multitude of reasons.
The usual 'Hitler was retarded' is the prime reason, as with everything 4rd reich related. beyond that, there is the lack of coordination between Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine (as with everything 3rd Reich and aircraft related, the reason is 'Goering was retarded'), and obviously the simple size of the forces in question.
Given the numerical disposition in 1939, the real question is 'why didn't the RN just sail into Wilhelmshaven or Kiel to fuck shit up?', but in the end that is the same question that one could ask in 1914, and has the same answer.
But: I never said the RN was 'so bad', I said they were retarded.
They refused to fix systemic weaknesses that they recognized in WW1, they never subjected their own strategic decisions to thorough analysis.
The USN, and to somewhat lesser extent, the IJN in the 1920s, did this, and ended up with forces that were at least somewhat capable of performing their projected missions.
The RN, in contrast, ended up with a force that ultimately did not even have a projected mission beyond 'let's try and protect muh empire against ze evil commerce raiders', and proved tio be practically unable to perform this mission without immediate US help.
Just about the only thing that seved Britain was that the Kriegsmarine had even less of a coherent plan, and was not ready for any kind of war in 1939.
>>152052604
> The troubles with her turrets are blown out of proportion.
>spotters could actually follow the shells to the target. One 16-inch shell was tracked from the gun to where it hit the face of Bismarck's #2 turret Bruno and exploded, blowing out the back of the turret, with the resulting splinters killing most of the crew on the bridge.
heh you could say that :^)
>>152051720
I didn't know that britain planned to build more 8" cruisers.
With those designs, a heavy cruiser tree seems possible.
Since Wg said they wanted seperate CL and CA trees anyway, maybe we'll get those sometime.WG should've gone and made things like the Alaskas or B-65 design the top cruisers, that way we could have all the cool shit.
>>152051381
>1500 wtr 65% winrate
That's the smell of getting carried.
fuck off and give us the scharnhorst WG
>>152053207
>12 inch guns.
I doubt it WG's made it clear the 220mm on the Moskava are largest size a cruiser is going to have nvm a 356mm armed ship.
>>152053327
NO! What you really want is more gamescom stuff.
>>152052865
>one specific hit against a crippled target totally makes the guns great ;^)
Yeah, no.
Any word on the normalization changes? How much has that affected the gameplay?
>>152053369
>WG's made it clear the 220mm on the Moskava are largest size a cruiser is going to have
That's why I said 'WG should have'.
They didn't, and decided that the Soviet cruiser deserved the biggest guns because )))))))))))))))
>>152051381
>thinking any banter between abru and raptor is anything but love
idk where this meme came from
>>152053549
I dunno about you slut but I'm still a bit tore up from last night.
>>152053369
I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD TO GAMESCOM
JUST GIVE ME THE BOAT
>>152053549
>one hit
you're retarded
>>152053562
Cruisers now citadel other cruisers more regularly, because cruisers ttoally needed their survivability nerfed some more.
US cruisers can now citpen some BBs at range, which means the Baltimore and DM can completely shit over lower-tier BBs by parking bow-on at maxrange.
I have no Moskva, so I do not know how the balans))))) guns are affected.
>play Hotel
>set on fire 12 times over within the space of a few minutes
there is no more enjoyable gameplay than getting set on fire in 4 places 3 times over
why isn't Eu updating to get German ships?
>>152053294
I've never denied being carried by my strong aussie sensei
>>151964983
is she going to be a good cruiser?
>>152053694
No because the Alaska's have 12 inch guns AND the armor to withstand 12 inch fire so they are at best battlecruisers.
>>152054174
Mako isn't the one who carried you to 60%
KÖNING IS A BS
So why did german BB's get delayed?
>>152054530
Because GAMESCOM! GAMESCOM! GAMESCOM!
>>152054498
Is that good or bad
A Supertester's opinion on the German BBs.
T3: Best of the T3 BBs because of the fast reload + shell velocity. The only T3 I might consider keeping.
T4: meh
T5: meh
T6: Literally a German Warspite in gameplay, except the Bayern is better because of the insane armor and faster rotating turrets.
T7: meh, you only get 6 guns of which 4 are at the front, you have awful firepower for the tier, plus it loses 150 secondaries for 128s
T8: Secondary god, it loses the Tirpitz torpedoes but gains slightly more accurate main guns and INSANE secondaries, my favourite ship in the line
T9: It's OK
T10: garbage
>>152054631
REALLY BAD
>>152053986
>>152053820
I can only advise you to carefully read this.
http://navweaps.com/Weapons/WNBR_16-45_mk1.php
>>152054850
We're not arguing that it wasn't inaccurate. we're arguing with your retarded claim that it only landed 1 hit
You're moving the goalposts on your argument to maker you look correct. Fuck off
>>152054752
>T9: It's OK
So do t8+ german bbs get hydro still?
>>152054850
>here's what you where saying
>here's what I think you said
>>152055075
>>>/deutsch/
>>152049794
>>152049974
If Raptor ran sonar on the Zao, would he have this problem?
>>152051514
>Repulse went down because of the idiot in charge of Force Z he was a BB admiral and didn't belive aircraft could threaten capital ships.
No, it was because British intelligence reports on the capacity of both IJN and IJA planes underestimated their operational range. By said intelligence reports, Japan's bombers were physically incapable of reaching the PoW and Repulse unless they planned to pull a doolittle and bail out somewhere.
>>152055485
He would die to torp drops instead
oh shit RN is getting Minotaur as the 10. imagine 10 of these guns, oy vey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujoT_3XUp5M
hey /wowsg/ when do i use AP vs HE in cruisers? Right now im in the (((Kolberg)))
This is fine.
>>152052865
>Look ma I hit an opponent that was going 11 knots and couldn't turn to starboard at 14km maximum
wew lad
>>152056134
poor little south carolina guy
>>152056175
I was only memeing about >blown out of proportion. no need to get so bent my dude
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>>152053820
>>152053986
Most of these were done at 3km, though, and only demonstrates that the crew of the Rodney didn't have an extra copy of Chromosome 21.
>All the blogfags are just good goys
Wew
>>152055779
So should I run sonar or defensive fire?
>>152056568
>only demonstrates that the crew of the Rodney didn't have an extra copy of Chromosome 21
ahhh yes, I see
But the clearly SUPERIOR germans SUPER RACE still managed to get sunk by them. Fucking retard
>>152056493
>ill never die to torpedoes again
Well you picked a bad ship to play because you can't stop running into them and that thing's torpedo belt sucks.
>kolberg AP can't pen broadside kolberg at 1km
what the actual fuck
>>152056568
>that whole post
[CITATION NEEDED]
>>152055130
>let's claim he moved a goalpost instead of actualy reading teh relevant link
>let's keep believing 70 year old propaganda instead of looking at the facts
the eternal anglo at work again
>>152056954
>teh
>propaganda
Yep, facts are propaganda. germany actually won the war
Anything that says otherwise is propaganda
germany never had death camps, all propaganda etc.
>>152056864
It's a flammenwerfer if it's not werfing flammen you're doing it wrong.
>>152056954
>teh
kys you autistic manchild
>>152056105
Switch to AP when the opposing cruiser start to show their broadside.
But Kolberg shell is slow and inaccurate so you better spam HE.
>>152057086
>germany never had death camps
Let's stick to ships, you don't want to open that cam of worms
>>152054969
How do you interpret him citing one specific hit as me claiming only one hit landed?
Are you really that asshurt about Rodney that you feel attacked so easily?
Or are you just out of arguments and now try using anything that might distract from that?
It's OK. Rodney was an OK design. It required well over a decade of refits to unfuck the various troubles, but it HAS that decade.
And the 16" guns were certainly of a somewhat antiquated design even in 1922, but beyond that and the underwater protection, like I said, there is not much to critize.
>>152056105
In general:
HE - Pretty much all the time
AP - Whenever a cruiser is giving you his broadside at less than 10 km away.
Special cases - With german cruisers, you can try and shoot AP at ranges longer than 10km, as long as the ship is broadside. Even against battleships, because german AP is really good. Koenigsberg and Nuremberg can get good penetration damage on broadsided battleships.
Special case 2 - When you reach T7, Yorck reverses the trend for a moment. The AP its awful, but you get good HE, so you shoot HE pretty much all the time. When you reach T8, you go back to the standard german cruiser gameplay.
Is it just me or does the Nassau's AP seem under performing when used against itself?
>>152057401
No, I'm not ass hurt about the Rodney, why would I be? it shat on the Bismarck
But his claim that it was so inaccurate it only ever landed 1 hit was simply retarded.
>>152057086
>heh, he made a typo, therefore I do not have to lok at the facts
>heh, it's about germany, let's just cry NAZI and point out death camps
Jesus Christ, you are completely fucking retarded and unwilling or unable to discuss things after looking at established facts.
>>152057404
>Yorck AP is awful
only >10km
inside 10km, switch to AP
>>152057621
>my opinion
>facts
Get a grip you autist
>>152057528
Have people ever read an After Action report or Details of War Service report by any nation?
I mean during the battle against Bismarck.
>At 0901 hours RODNEY fired her fourth salvo, two shells missed and two were hits. At least one of the shells hit in the vicinity of Bruno turret completely disabling it and partially disabling Anton; also the explosion tore upwards through the bridge killing many on the bridge.
More than one hit,
>Randomly cit eneme gneis though the front with my gneis
I'm scared
>>152057528
>claim that it was so inaccurate it only ever landed 1 hit
I still do not see that claim anywhere, and shooting up a crippled wreck is a pretty sad achievement.
>>152057678
>my opinion
>it's actually a link to navweaps.com
Yeah, whatever m8. Keep believing what you learned in Sink the Bismarck.
>>152057765
bismark wasn't fully crippled and was firing back and scoring no hits on anything until she was engaged by kgv and rodney and had her turrets completely kocked. please get better educated my wehraboo friend :^)
>>152057765
>damage rudder
>crippled wreck
?????????????
Also, yeah. Remind me how it got crippled in the first place? Something with a lone swordfish?????
new thread
>>152058103
>>152058139
Too early.
>>152057896
so if the rodney never hit the Bismarck. how did it sink?
>>152056493
You WILL regret going full Triahx.
>100 hits, all HE
>3 fires
>15k damage
Why is Kolberg so bad?
Do the jerry cans ever stop being shit?
>>152058260
keep your autism in Shit thunder general please
>>152058212
Clearly the treacherous psycic powers of the Jewry
>>152057719
Of course I've read those reports, and a shit-ton of others. Mostly US ones, those are the easiest to get.
I just do not understand why some apparently asshurt Brits seem to explode into autistic shitposting whenever anything that might maybe perhaps somehow be construed as a slight criticism to any RN ship is mentioned.
There is simply no mentioning of 'LOL Rodney only ever landed one hit' in this whole thread, and they keep yammering about 'we hit Biscuit more than once and totally sank her right m80', then refuse to read what is probably the single most substantial source about ships of that period on the whole internet and call that 'an opinion'.
inb4 they claim they only pretended to be retarded, and call it all a clever ruse
>>152057404
The Molotov is another special case. Citpens cruisers and lighter BBs at near max range pretty reliably if they show broadside.
>>152058428
>If i pretend no one said it
>it never actually happened
Fuck off you retard and learn to read: >>152053549
>>152058446
you are Literally, the Retardiest
>>152058212
Are you retarded? Rodney hit Bismarck multiple times before the crew scuttled her.
>>152058428
You sound autistic. I'm going to break it down for your small penised wannabe german mind kiddster.
>bisco was sunk by concentrated fire of the bonger navy
>every other german ship was entirely sunk by the bonger forces
>crying muh americans gave supplies doesn't mean shit
>germans despite muh RN flawed navy got BTFO by the most skilled navy in the worl period
This is reality. not the fantasy your sub collegic mind invented ok autismo. :^))
>>152058703
no, according to the thread naziboos the rodney was super inaccurate and never landed a single hit
>>152058703
Nah uh never happened did you see my link http://www.navweaps.com/
>>152058703
>Rodney hit Bismarck multiple times
NO FUCK OFF YOU BONGABOO THE RODNEY WAS SHIT AND THE BISMARCK WAS SUPERIOR IN EVERY WAY. THE GERMANS SCUTTLED THE BISMARCK BECUASE THE BRITISH COULDN'T HIT IT AND FELT BAD OR THEM SO THEY SUCTTLED THE SHIP
MY OPINIONS ARE FACT. HAIL HITLER
>>152059156
>hail
FFS
>>152059156
>>152058961
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-016.htm
From your own source:
>During the action, Rodney expended 375 rounds of ammunition spread by gun as follows AL (36) AC (46) AR (22), BL (45), BC (44) BR (52), XL (44), XC (42), XR (44). In these, the first letter is the turret and the second identifies the left, center or right gun.
>Rodney and KGV both scored around 40 heavy hits each for a total of 80. The balance of the reported "300 - 400 hits" are 8 inch, 6 inch and 5.25 inch. KGV fired 660 5.25 inch shots, Rodney 716 6 inch, Norfolk, 527 8 inch and Dorsetshire 254 8 inch.
Just remember that USN > All
good grind boys
Nassau is the best tier 3 BB
Kaiser is the worst tier 4 BB
Konig is the worst tier 5 BB
>>152054752
>Bayern is better than Warspite
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>152043542
>>152032736
Can't draw the line between this and them separating the CL and CA cruiser lines? As expected of bongtards. Dumbass anglos.
>>152060498
Good goys blown the fuck out.
How can their wallets recover?
>>152060525
>Can't draw the line between this and them separating the CL and CA cruiser lines?
But that's wows description.
So what's the overall opinion on German BBs right now?