/xivg/ - Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward General

ilu vall

DRG or SMN??

>one post early
REEEEEE

>>152041332
DRG

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>that shitter that enters your niche market with very little or intermittent competition and drives the prices down by 80%

whats her name, anon

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>>152041213
How did SE fuck it all up?

>>152041471
"fukkboi"

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which face and skin color should I use if these ones are bad

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Yoshi p is on Odin

>>152041471
Whoever named their retainer AAAAA

>>152041519
By letting the game die?
There was a boost right after the expansion cause the game had something to do at least, then they started adding contents every 4 months again and they really expect people to sub and do nothing? So retarded.

>>152041519
The clusterfuck that is called 3.3 happened and it's grind bullshit.

>>152041519
3.0 happened.

>>152041471
yuffieaa

>>152041556
That looks fine actually, scale color close to your skin color looks much better than the alternative. Nice eyes too

>>152041519
3.0 removed content from the game instead of adding more.

>>152041556
black hime cut, be the best naaki you can be

>>152041638
Hehe

>>152041948
Not even Naaki likes being Naaki. That's why they're a bunch of chopsticks now.

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>>152041556
But face 3 a best! I'd say your skin looks a bit orange but that may just be the lighting/my monitor. Honestly I think you look fine. I'm not a fan of the face scales but that's because of the massive graphical and texture differences.

>>152041213
???

>>152032725
Was made and posted already, what's going on

>>152041698
3.0 and 3.1 were what killed the game.
3.3 is just an average patch which suffer the usual pace problem of every odd patch, but it's by no means worse than those.

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I think it's just proof positive that from Day 1 Square Enix was working on another franchise, I.E. FF15. There is evidence of cut corners from 3.0 onwards. To a new player you likely won't need to worry, the issue is the end game content is creating a very hostile environment for raiders and as a result there is the people who are skilled slowly looking down on the casual population, so much that there are players who are capable of rising to the raiding level but because there is no risk/reward employed players are not helping elevate their server population.
I try to push for it on Exodus, but given about 100 players who have cleared A8S despite the graph showing 50 it's a challenge because resources and time are spread thin.
3.4 should, ideally be a good patch, as well as 3.5, and 3.55. I think the main issue is they're trying to spread their resources too thin and designing wasteful content. (Lords of Verminion, Diadem(even though I like it for gathering), and so on)
So the long story is that the toxic players are becoming more toxic because of the game design, which is inherently forcing them to move to Tonberry/Gilgamesh/etc. One they address that problem and actually start building healthier raid populations we should see a resurgence. But given Legion, and depending on how WoW recovers it may show a bigger issue.
I think they just put too many eggs in one basket for 15 and now it's sink or swim time. If it does well, then more resources come back to 14, if it does poorly then I'd be worried then for the future of this franchise.

>>152042276
>3 hours ago
so at 700 posts?

>>152042451
>the end game content is creating a very hostile environment for raiders
Holy shit, this

I pug a lot, but damn if there isn't a massive gap in between the 1% top FCs and the "average raider" these days. It used to be smaller, until Gordias forcibly removed that community from the game.

Manifestos and raid finder are steps forward but we need more. Maybe relevant rewards for assisting other groups after your weekly clear, like a Mercenary thing that rewards tomes, gil, maybe something else good idk

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>>152042146
This is how skin looks outside

>>152042779
Your eyes are creepy

>>152042779
still too orange
remove the face scales first and foremost

>>152042779
ah yeah that's good!

I think you look fine, but I'm also super bias to 3. I'd say just get a proper glim glam and you're golden.

>>152042779
i believe dark hair would work better with the face scales

also you forgot your pants

>>152042779
Get some pants nerd

>>152042451
You're absolutely retarded and don't know how resource management works within a company.
FFXV did not pull any resources from the XIV development team or anything remotely close to it.

FFXIV houses a very small internal team within SE, sharing maybe only PR from SE. The cut corners and such are what the team sees as feasible with the given amount of resources they have. Remember that the bottom line of creating new content is to bring and retain players. You do not develop for the minority of your demographic.

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Say goodbye to this cat. She's having a sex change.

>>152042983
>FFXV makes a lot of money
>SE gives their XIV dev team more resources
It's not impossible, just a theory

>>152043128
Like you did irl?

>>152043128
to female?


this desperate for dick that you'll fanta to the dickmagnet catboy

>>152043179
L M A O

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>>152043179
To a male yes

>>152043147
Take a look at SE's fiscal reports. XIV is a cash machine. XV is a big gamble but has the security of an established franchise. It will guarantee large revenue but not profit like an mmo.

>>152043128
fanta to your elezen
she was very beautiful

>>152043128
It's not really that great of a cat.

>Shana responds to himself with his own phone episode again.

>>152043392
>retard talks about people who aren't even here episode again

>completed my anima weapon
>no longer in need for poetics or esos
>already all geared up in full lore for the only class I play
>fully melded in grade V materia
>cleared PotD and got my weapon
>now only log in for cactpot and GC hand-ins
>don't feel like doing anything else
shiet
patch when?

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>People still compare Heavensward content to ARR even though ARR had the unfair advantage of having 1.0s failure of a launch to build on
The only true problem in this game is the lack of PVP

>>152043747
Good. Riddance. Hopefully sooner than later.

>>152042759
That's because most of the players don't know how to properly use their classes, and there's no way to learn it.
The fact that pro FCs are made of elitists which will never help average players is stopping most of the groups to get really good.

>>152043797
HW has more varied content than ARR. People just love to pretend that the previous shit they took was the best shit in their lives.

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>>152043906
>>152043747
>>152043559
>Negotiating with terrorists
Stupid ones albeit

>>152043731
3.38 is next week.

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Where were you when Mateus didn't have a single A8S clear in August?

So the man cuts himself big whoop. What does he want a medal and a goblet to go with it?

>>152043539
OK shana

>>152044093
That's fair enough.
Egi-glamours when? I'm willing to re-learn SCH and/or SMN if it means I can go on adventures with carbuncle again.

>>152043747
>hairy and fat
ew

>>152044093
3.38 isn't a real patch, they're just letting casuals upgrade their 230 weapon.

>>152044315
Then contact a mod over IRC and get them to call an ambulance if you want. Otherwise fuck off and take this insane shit with you.

>>152044315
Do you really think this person would suddenly be fine if the shit they're campaigning about got fixed?
The problem isn't the discord or whatever the fuck it is they keep yammering about, the problem is they've gone coocoo.

>>152044315
they're harming themself actually. they need help, but that help isn't going to be "bending over to their demands", it's going to be "put them in a fucking hospital"

>>152044368
It's literally a patch though.
You're thinking of a content update, but that's not what was asked.

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>>152044057
Would i stop someone I care about from cutting themselves? You fucking bet.

THIS waste of oxygen? No. I'm not going to support some dumb fucking kid who gets mad he was removed from an internet chatroom for being a dumb fucking kid, then throws tantrums about it by legitimately carving into his own flesh like it's going to stop the internet bullies.

I hope this dumb bitch drinks bleach so I can laugh at the absurdity of someone killing themself over a discord channel (which you can freely create, by the way).

So no, you can defend your little bitch all you want, I will never, ever endorse them.

>>152044514
A mod can find them. If they kill themselves it's just as much on you as everyone else for not doing something when you could have.

>>152044672
how long is anyone in a hospital? until they're better, dipshit

>>152044623
He was obviously asking for new contents though, since he's done everything possible so far.

>>152044726
how does this even get fixed though
ive been in one of those wards before, all they do is fill you with medicine and abuse you

>>152044640
i guess things would be different if they shit on you instead of their bed

The person you people are replying to is just Amber talking about themselves in the third person. If you want them gone for good either force them to kill themselves or get a mod on IRC to trace their IP and call an ambulance for them.

>>152044858
I wouldn't let that mentally ill freak shit in the same building as me, are you mad. Not that that dumbshit knows when he has to go, he just lets it slide whenever judging by his pigsty.

>>152044640
based adaa

>>152044672
>>152044315
>>152044057
>>152043906
>>152043559
Please report them already.

>someone cutting themselves over e-drama
this
this is why you are the worst general
how do you even get here from video games

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reminder that this is the type of person ruining this general
not amber

>>152044992
reminder that this person talking about how they shit on others and trying to flaunt around their name as if it means something and never talking about the game is the person thats ruining this place
not amber

you can say it was peaceful before she was here but was it right

>>152045110
>>152045118
the people doing it dont play the game
they use their erp for attention in a place they can get it
anyone that doesnt agree is ran out

>>152045118
Fuck off fishfaggot

i want meria to be my gf

Jesus Christ.

>>152045110
what happened to jrpg general?

>>152045320
I want Haurchefant to be my gf(male)

>>152045315
this is the catalyst for mob mentality that runs in 4chan
first it was actual faggots, in the early days
thats why you say fishfaggot
there is no reason to be hateful but you're blinded by all of it here

>>152045340
it could have all been stopped but it wasnt
it will keep going on until someone steps up
the people antagonizing it dont even play the game

>>152045320
inb4 fake godspeed post

hahahah
hows your shit fucking derivative game doing
lmao what a community

*jumps into the ocean*

>>152045637
what did he mean by this

>>152045637
wtf I hate ffxiv now

>>152044640
Right now I'm betting it stupidly cuts an artery while carving some message into their flesh, then bleed out.

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This makes me sad. Amber, they don't matter, please stop hurting yourself.

Why is Aymeric the only kawaii Elezen in the game?

>>152045569
>person acts like an annoying shit
>gets called an annoying shit
faggot hugboxer get out

>>152045869
If we don't matter then why are we winning faggot?
I hope they kill themselves along with you

>>152045869
What did she do this time

anyone on Moogle that can invite a lonely noob to a FC?

>>152046253
>>152046054
>she

>>152046278
looks like a girl to me faggot

>>152046253
We need to go deeper

>>152046253
I'm sorry I bought shyv?

I think it's high time I leave this general for good. I've been here through pretty much every shitty turn, but this just takes the cake.

>>152046438
>I'm sorry I'm so boring Shyv
because shyv called her boring
or maybe it was a falseflag
it worked though

>>152046485
I'm entertained by all this, I'm not even disgusted at this point

Velvet is amongst us

Which c@girl would pee themselves the fastest if you viciously tickled their feet without mercy?

>>152046635
cringe

>>152046535
Nah shyv calls everyone outside his circlejerk boring.

>>152046635
go away paks.

>>152046182
You can apply to Donut. The pastebin is a bit outdated.

>>152046382
girls aren't that hairy dude

>>152047063
>has never seen a girl
you can count the hairs m8

>>152043128
I'll never forgive you.

>>152046382
>the cutting pic where he blacked out his penis
she

>>152046857
>Donut
>hardcore

I've had roughly a two year break I'm just looking for a noob friendly FC

>>152047271
>penis = girl
>futa = gay
Hello, 2004

>>152046182
Yes.
/tell Teorec Evrardoux

>>152047359
The FC description is a joke, we're exceptionally friendly.

>>152045967
Alph is cute!

>>152047359
They're not hardcore, few guys aside.
what's your name?

So, out of the 507,722 active accounts, only 225,457 actually cleared 3.3, which mean that half of the active subs are either new players or/and people who literally do not play much (or pertain only into activities such as RP/Crafting&Gathering).
Huge disappointment to realize the game only have 225kish players worldwide who can participate into endgame activities such as ex-trial and co, not to mention the ridiculous low amount of Midas S clears.
4.0 better be a real expansion and not a 2.X formula copy like they did for 3.X or you guys will start to experience bad times to play.

>>152047502
Phil Collins

I'll be back from work in about 1-2 hours.

>152047639
It was like 200 posts early, fuck off Amber

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what the hell is going on in here

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How much do fantasias sell for on Balmung?

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>>152047502

Who'd even be hardcore in that FC?

>>152047775
Something above and beyond autism

>>152047827
Post feet.

>>152047719
>tfw I get called amber

>>152047827
People do not advertise that but I would guess in the neighborhood of a million gil. Of course that's what wedding bands go for and they're $20 each, but I doubt anyone would sell you a fanta for 500k

*flips a coin*

I need to pump..a Miqote..

Post Collars

>>152048175
pst

Post a c@grill and explain why their feet are the best.

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>>152048227

>>152047861
Totori. it's hardcore or nothing.

>>152048227
This is the worst meme

>>152047894
What's in it for me?

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lf highlander or au ra male to use me as their cocksleeve, pst

>>152048372
Someone needs to modify the futa rant for collars

>>152048378
An imgur dump of things of great import to you.

>>152048383
Shyv would never say this! Imposter!

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>>152048464
lf highlander or au ra male to jerk off on my oiled squidfeet, pst

>>152047671
2.x formula isn't bad by itself, they just need to add MORE content per patch: 4 fights and 1 trial aren't enough, let alone 1 single trial for odd patches.

>>152048536
Damn it wasnt an impostor afterall

>>152048543
Please understand we lack the resources to deliver such content, but we do have new doze emotes!

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I want to shackle "The Squid" and tickle torture their oiled soles.

>>152048543
Yeah they should have never cut down on the content per patch like they did from 2.0 to HW.

>>152048536
Maybe if they were oiled cat toes, but not this.

>>152048701
>harambe is back
I'm out

>>152047671
To be fair, with MOST patches, it's really pretty normal for there to be a steep dropoff in the number of people who have cleared the current patch's story compared to the number of people who cleared the previous patch's story. For example, I know that I (and about 20-30 people in my FC) left the 3.2 story incomplete for the entirety of that patch, advancing only as far as we needed to go to unlock Antitower, and most of us didn't bother to finish it off until basically the weekend before 3.3 released.

There's an argument to be made that fewer people might have done that for 3.3 given how important the story was to it and how you needed to basically get to the end to fight Nidhogg, but nobody should be surprised at all if the number of clears basically jumps up by 20-30k as soon as 3.4 actually releases.

On the other hand, if you do take the 225k number as gospel, then with roughly 40k recorded A5S clears on FFLogs (and assuming that there isn't a gigantic discrepancy once you weigh duplicate FFLogs entries for alt classes versus people who don't upload public parses), then almost 20% of the game's active population is actively trying to raid Savage - that's a lot higher than I would have imagined, honestly.

>>152048702
While I do agree unsync ruined the game, how do you make primals and coil relevant again though, now that we have 10 more levels?

>>152048701
its too real, i regret my shitposting

A questionf ro summoners with a relic: how did you spread the stats on your 240? 120 crit, 115 det and 5 spell speed?

>>152048701
>harambe returns from the dead and wants to tickle all the white wiminz

>>152048840
they could just lazy-mode it and tune encounters for level 60 at current gear levels and i'd be content with it. i don't see much changing mechanics wise

>tfw glamming my first slutglam
kinda exciting desu

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>>152048359

>totori
>hardcore or nothing

Come on son, you had better targets to pick.

>>152048840
imo they should make level 60 savage modes for binding and final coils, with titles and glamour gear as drops. Strictly e-peen stuff.

>>152048978
But why would you even bother going through coil again, if you have cleared it already in 2.x?
At the same time if you're a new guy why would you choose to waste weeks on t9 when the rewards are useless and you need midas savage to get good gears? Obviously they can't have coils drop new equip, or 2.x players would clear them in one day.
The loot system itself is flawed, and it's due to the low number of fights we get on each even patch.

Would anyone here mind sharing a darker skin tone for female highlanders that works under the game natural lighting? Nearly everyone I have tried seems to come out really pale or far too ashy.

Best race/gender combo for a dragoon? Aesthetically speaking of course.

>>152049159
so another savage second coil which noone did?

no

>>152048010
Do you know if fantasias tradeable or do they have to gift it?

>>152048449
>>152047894

Why would someone cut themselves because of retards like this that only talk about literal shit and feet and piss all day?

>>152049361
cat girl

>>152049361
Melezen.

>>152049365
>How do you make primals and coil relevant again though

That's the only effective way you could do it.

>>152048701
I have no idea if you're actually memeing but seeing as you cropped a video of foot tickling porn that I've watched, you must be an enthusiast. You can contact me at dragoonlance.tumblr.com and use the "ask me anything" feature to send me a message or your IGN if you're on Balmung. I am a lee by the way, I'm sure that pleases you.

>>152043906
You need to go to the hospital.
Like now.
Call 911, and please go to the hospital.

>>152048840
People harp on this but I think it's kind of bullshit. BCoB, SCoB, and the EX primals from 2.0 through to 2.3 were 100%, every bit as irrelevant in 2.5 as they are now. An extra 10 levels and an Unsynced option didn't do anything to that content that hadn't already been done at level 50 - and the content that WAS made obsolete by Heavensward was just FCoB and the 2.4+ primals, which would have been just as irrelevant if Alexander had been a level 50 raid and the game had just continued on without an expansion pack.

Hell, if anything, those raids are MORE relevant now, because of the Aetherstone items needed to craft the Replica gear, people doing low-man clears of them, etc.


It's the nature of an MMO in a world where people have more than two or three options for which MMO to play. It isn't actually possible for all content to be "alive" forever, and the game would actually suffer a lot if it didn't focus the lens on whichever content happens to be newest and most current, because you need that critical mass of players all focused on it for it to have any life to it whatsoever (and there's already arguably a shortage of players raiding in Savage Alex; that probably would only get worse if they tried to disperse people out between Alex AND Coil, without making Coil any less dead in a meaningful way).

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>>152049423
>>152047894
oops

>>152049361
Male miqo'te.

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>>152049559
I've sent you a message!

>I am a lee by the way
I wouldn't have it any other way sister.

>>152048437
post it

Thinking about fantasia-ing to male elezen since I really like their face options. How do I get over being lank as fuck?

>>152049559
hahahahahaah holy shit

>>152049423
Gifted

>>152049601
>using a shitty mod instead of just using sandals

>>152049361
Catgirls look great, male elezen or Au Ra also look good.

>>152049729
Then proceed to be a shitter and stand in every AoE and die whenever you can.

>>152049501
No one will do it strictly for e-peen, people want loot, people make excuses like "oh yeah, I totally wanted to raid that, but my group didn't" instead. It'll be wasted resources on less than 1% of the population.

>>152049559
Holy shit

When can we put you and that femroe freak in a fucking concentration camp

>>152049361
Female Midlander

>>152049948
Well that's why you just make new content instead of trying to make coil relevant again. SE's problem is that their releasing less new stuff per patch than they did in 2.x and the game feels really sparse and bare right now because of how little there is to do after completing the one fight they give you.

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>>152049967

Soon I fucking hope.

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>>152049559
>>152049754
Oh my god.

>>152049581
People had to down t5, then t9 to enter t13, which was the end goal; that alone made them relevant.
As for primals people used to farm them for ponies, now everyone has them already and if they haven't it takes 10 minutes to run through them 10 times and get at least 1-2 ponies for a 4 men party.

What's funny is that they even made gordian useless now, even though it's the first major raid of 3.x. Way to go SE

>>152048701
What about B'nhaka? Would you do it to them IRL?

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>>152050395
I don't know who that is.

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>>152050365

>actually wanting to do gordias

>>152050565
I don't, I cleared it in 3.1.
It's still stupid they killed a 3.x content that fast, making the game even deader.

Is there any way to save your profile in terms of HUD placements and keybindings? I'm halftempted to make a secondary character but I wanna keep my options.

>>152050565
I mean I agree with what they're saying, though making gordias savage unneeded for midas savage unintentionally worked out for SE just because gordias is so fucking bad that no one wants to have to run it.

>>152050661
Gordias is a bad example because it's not fun. I could care less about them killing that off, it's trash.

>>152050119
Well, they're releasing less new stuff per patch because the game is basically staffed by a skeleton crew and don't have the resources to create new assets at a greater rate than they already have been.

However it's a pretty tried-and-true way to do more with less in game development to repurpose old assets, and make new content that only requires design and programming work rather than the creation of tons of new art (which tends to be where you eat through your budget), which they seem to be incredibly reluctant to do with any of the game's 'high-end' content (ie: Primal fights that have loot, progression-based raids).

It would shore up a HUGE part of what's missing from the game's content production if they went back to having three versions of every primal, as we did with Titan/Garuda/Ifrit, instead of only having two versions, the way it's been with every single other primal. Doing something similar with raids could also help them a lot.

>>152050740
Check your my games>ffxiv folder. maybe you can copy paste the .dat files there to a new character and it will work.

>>152050661
I was new in 2.1 and didn't get to BCoB gear levels until 2.2. When I got to that level I could queue for any turn and get a group in five minutes regardless of my class because people wanted to run it for gear. As soon as 3.2 hit, gordias queues died. granted i already had the gear this time around but i still wanted it for alts and as a 'break' when doing the unidentified grind.

>>152050829
It isn't really a bad example, though. Whether it's fun or not, they were that quick to invalidate it. If they keep it up, they'll be that quick to invalidate Midas.

>>152050460
you should do it to Mikha

>>152050460
where can I find you

I want you to tickle my feets

>>152050907
I would love to have three different versions of raids. There needs to be more midcore content in the game, and having a "middle difficulty" version of raids that is more similar to coil difficulty without being stupidly crazy like savage is would be a godsend.

>>152051010
I don't know that person either.
If you have pictures of both, I'd assess them.

>>152051105
I find you.

>>152050829
This

>le manipulator ebin fight
>kill two legs without having to do anything other than damage
>from third onwards it's all about doing the same while having three retards take care of the dumbest mechanic in gordias, doll feeding
>ignore nisi
>last phase is still doll garbage and three people have to die to cheese

only living liquid is good, rest of gordias is complete trash and an embarassment to this game

How do we save this game?
Is it already too late?

>>152050829
A3 is legit one of the best fight though, the rest is no worse than bcob.
>>152049581
The only way to make content last forever is to change the loot system: at the moment you raid savage to get the best gear available, which will be needed for... nothing at all.
On the next tier such gears won't be better than what others have, and it will be the same story all over again.
How do you fix this then? By changing the loot given in such raids.
What they should (but will never) do is introducing at least two tiers: one to get the bis, the other(s) for glamour and epeen.
What kind of glamour though? Coil savage already gave titles, and it was a complete failure, but that's only cause the only reward was a single title no one cares about.
The only way to make such hardcore fights interesting is to give A LOT of rewards, such as unique titles, mounts, furnitures and NEW gears instead of dyeable versions.
This way people would go through the first raid, which should have different gears from the normal version plus some small furnitures or minions as well, to get the bis and get ready for the real endgame raid.

>>152050365
That's a really thin definition of "relevant". If you managed to get into a group that was going to do the current tier, it was barely a formality for them to run you through the previous tier if you needed it. And if you didn't have a group for the current tier, then requiring a clear of the previous tier was straight-up counterproductive to the game's raiding community.

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>>152051180
Forgot my picture!

>>152051214
XV has to be a success same with the VII remake and the game will get more funding

>>152051357
>>152050460
>>152049754
>>152048701
#dicksout

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FEMROES!

>>152051435
You can fund good visuals and memey quests but you can't fund good ideas.

>>152050978
Yeah it sucks but that is the reality now. You have a lot of people who feel entitled to top tier loot and/or access to ALL storyline content regardless of effort, devs who get insulted when people call their raid masterpieces too easy, and a captive audience who just complains but doesn't vote with their wallets because the market is so dead they have nowhere else to go (plus the nature of these games, people already invested so much time, don't feel like they can be new in old games, etc). Perfect storm of shit. MMOs are a dead genre walking.

>>152051214
Increase the budget and hire new design staff for 4.0, announce the key design changes and get hopes up with a moderately sized ad campaign, deliver on the promises.

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>>152050395
>>152051010
Well, you can say you've piqued my interest. Do you have pictures on both of these people?

>>152051212
>>152051326
They nerfed A3S into the ground and the challenge that made it interesting is gone.

>>152051651
go away rape ape

>>152051532

Like this guy, huh? >>152051651

Femroe players everyone. Shrek and the tickle freak.

>>152051584
It's a shame, because the kind of MMO I'd want is one that can't survive with how the genre is right now. It'd be impossible for it to survive as things are, so no one will ever try

>>152051649
>Increase the budget and hire new design staff for 4.0
I doubt this may happen, seeing as FFXV got delayed and the FFVII remake is getting episodic releases. It'd be nice if it does, as we would see a lot more being put into this game with a bigger team.

Some key design changes would be nice, especially when announced--provided they're changes for the good of this game. As for delivering on their promises...they failed on doing that many times, including the whole add-on support thing.

>>152051109
Three versions of each current tier is really the only way for the devs to get out of the hole they've designed themselves into, without losing something significant.

The way the game has gone, the skill differential between top-tier players and average-to-good players - not even between 'top-tier' and 'shit' players, but 'top-tier' and the kind of people who were regularly clearing tiers of Coil before the catch-up patch - has skyrocketed, relative to the difference between a top-tier player and an average-to-good player at level 50.

If they continue doing what they have been, and design Savage Alexander so that it's challenging to the top-tier players, the raiding scene is just going to die a slow death, because that middle section of average raiders can't be bothered to put up with that kind of difficulty, and the top-tier section of players can only replenish itself by having people 'graduate' from the middle-class. Once they start losing the current crop of cutting-edge players (arguably already happening) there aren't really going to be many people replacing them, which will cause the raiding scene to basically slowly suffocate to death.

If they start designing Savage Alexander to be aimed at those 'average' raiders, then everybody who is used to playing at the current Savage level is going to find the new raids boring, and so is anybody who learns to play at that level. Interest in the endgame will dampen throughout the whole community if the consensus is that you can 'outgrow' the game just by learning to play well enough.

Their only real options at this point are to create a new, middle tier of difficulty (which they don't have the resources to do), or to simplify the game in 4.0 to the point where there isn't such a massive gap between top-tier and average players.

>janitor deletes my picture of fishface
wew

>sera refuses to talk in voip
>sera has never ever talked to people in this general
>yet somehow they believe that hes not a man

>>152052530
But in order to make the hardest content interesting you need to change the loot system, as I was saying.
They already made a midcore and hardcore version of the same raid, and in the end no one even bothered trying coil savage.

>>152052342
Speak for yourself please.

>>152052860
The biggest problem with Savage SCoB was that for some stupid fucking reason they decided that it should share a lockout with the regular raid.

There are a lot of reasons that people raid, most people who raid do it for some combination of a number of those reasons, and most raid groups are comprised of people who have varying priorities when it comes to which of those reasons are important. The shared lockout on Savage SCoB ruled itself out for everybody except a miniscule subsection of the raiding community that shared a hyper-specific attitude toward raiding that is not, realistically, ever going to be enough to sustain a viable community, in any game, in any genre, ever.

The idea of an ultra-hard raid, at the current tier, as an addition rather than an alternative to a moderately-tuned progression raid, is still effectively untested in this game.

>>152052914
>'our' only means 'all'
>not 'more than one'
>muh legion

Tanitsuki
please come back

>>152053502
>I'm speaking for everyone
>everyone

just fuck off

>>152052831
>>152053502
can someone post their discord

>>152053729
>>152053502

>>152052723
she's a turk and her dad will beat her and take her shit away if she speaks english

>>152053869
>trying to excuse your autism

>>152054074
>Mine
No you're just fucking blind

>>152049497
cute cat

>>152052029
>>152052831
>>152053502
Truly the cutest character posted here.

i want new wave ebins to leave

>>152054105
>convincing yourself you're not agreeing with their legionpost

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>>152051214
remove ps3 for muh grafix

>>152054405
lei is cute

>>152054354
There is only one source of legion posting in this thread right now

>>152054405
lei is so cute

>>152054492
the legion of hate and rude bred on this website?

I guess people were talking about the game too much for fishface.

>>152054571
"I speak for everyone"

>>152054405
let is the love of my life

>>152054571
>If I generalize people who disagree with me, it's easier to dismiss them!

I'm far from a hate filled person and I think Amber needs to go and stay go, preferably somewhere with medical facilities

>>152053559
The real problem with savage coil is its difficulty and the lack of noteworthy rewards, the lockout meant nothing.
It's the same problem as midas and midas savage: they're the same fights at the core, so people will be less interested in the harder version. If you want me to try both, you must give me a valid reason, and a single title isn't worth the time.

I'm capped on company seals. Is there anything I can do with them?

>>152054710
>the lockout meant nothing
Spoken by someone who wasn't good enough to do savage SCOB when it was released.

>>152054768
Ventures, gear for leveling alts, near-worthless mats you can sell for a slim profit.

>>152054618
>>152054681
>They're doing the same thing as their made up delusion
That's called projecting by the way
Something most people here suffer from when they samefag and show their true face

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>>152054768
buy some ventures

>>152054923
kiss some feets :3c

>>152054827
Nice argument oniichan, i completed t6 and a then t9 savage back in the days.

>>152054902
I don't remember speaking for everyone. I just remember someone being blind and quoting a post that directly conflicted with what they had just said three minutes after the other post was made. Your legionary bullshit drove you to be defensive over it

>>152054923
>>152054846
Im kinda new to the game so I don't really understand retainers. I already have like 300 ventures though from leve's

>>152054954
So you completed none of the difficult ones.

>>152054768
To chime in with >>152054846 you can also get grade 6 dark matter to repair your gear if you're Lv. 50+ on all of your crafters sans culinarian. It's what I do since I run dungeons frequently and don't want to rape my wallet with repair bills.

>>152055034
All I see is someone who uses buzzwords and obviously hasn't grasped society outside of the 10th grade
Holy shit
Please delete this place

>>152054710
It saddens me how utterly addicted mmo players are to the carrot-on-a-stick skinner box model where they NEED rewards for something otherwise they don't bother doing it. This is a video game and everything one does in it should be primarily for fun and enjoyment. That's what these devs and MMO devs in general should focus on in my opinion, making a variety of content that is fun and isn't a chore or a job to run. Unfortunately that's not what's profitable because of the nature of the audience.

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>>152054245
>replying to your own posts

fuck off A.A

>>152055118
>>152053502
>>152053729
Your grace got deleted, not the place

>>152055039
Can you send retainers out on ventures yet? I don't remember if you have to activate the feature through a quest but basically give them equipment and send them on ventures to get items. You can only give them jobs you know though, so if you're a lancer or an archer they can only be lancers or archers

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Some of you cats are alright.

Don't go to limsa lominsa tomorrow.

>>152055062
Because half the party was tired of t8 rng bullshit for a stupid title and eventually gave up.

>>152055183
Because janitors are so upset they can't do their jobs correctly apparently

>>152055062
t9 was the second hardest though

>>152055242
How many retainers should I even have? I'm using them as glorified banks right now.
I can send them on ventures but don't really get the point, they just come back with like 4 bat wings or something

>>152055245
Not good enough for the hard turns, I see. So your argument is worthless.

>>152055303
They're doing their jobs just fine. The game related discussion remains, while "I speak for everyone" does not

>>152055138
That's just the common mentality though.
I'm the first to admit everything we're doing is pointless hence you don't need a reason to do it, but you need to find seven other players who think the same, and as far as I know it's not an easy task.

>>152054902
I'm not projecting shit my man. Claiming anyone who dislikes amber is a "hate filled person", or in Amber's case, "someone from /pol/" is bullshit boogeyman thinking.

>>152055332
t. someone who never did it at release

>>152055372
>>152055412
how is what you're saying related to the game at all lmao
you could reply to screenshots like a normal person but you're TRIGGERED

>>152055356
Your argument is worthless for what we were talking though, but at least you tried.
as if you downed them

>>152055486
I beat t6s and t9s when they were relevant though and got t8s to sub 20%

>>152055352
You can only get 2 before you need to pay real world money for them. They are supposed to be used as extra storage, you send them on ventures and you get like one item in return, sometimes rare gear, a minion, house decorations, dye, stuff like that.
You'll eventually get to send them on exploration missions which take like 18 hours but they get a lot of exp from them and you usually get good stuff. Just level them up and keep giving them your old gear

>>152055395
I feel the same way, I just want to do everything for enjoyment, I only raid for fun because I like the challenge. However no one else in my static feels that way and treats it like a job that they have to do for loot. I wish we could somehow get rid of the mentality in MMOs that "bigger numbers are > everything else" and the sad fact that even if a trial or raid was the best designed content this game if it didn't have loot attached to it no one would run it.

>>152055138
There's a difference between "I need loot or I'm not doing it" and "I need to be in a group of eight people and every single one of them has to be looking for an obscene challenge that carries no loot reward, and if I'm not in a group where every single player thinks in absolute lockstep that way, I need to be willing to kick people from the group and deprive them of the raid they've been having fun with, or leave my current group and current friends behind to find a new group of eight people who are looking for an obscene challenge for no loot reward, and all of this is just a prerequisite to being able to even TRY doing this content".

>>152055501
>>152055118

>>152055518
Downed all four, my dude.

>>152055537
So you didn't clear the hard ones either, great job!

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>>152054405
I get more issues with Nvidia drivers than anything else

>>152055660
Cheers for the info

>>152055372
>They're doing their jobs just fine.
We haven't been discussing the game for at least thirty posts now.

>>152055731
See all the "coil/primal for down unsync" pf, see how many people bother with coil savage, see how no one does gordias anymore: that's the userbase, if something is outdated, they won't even try it. This fact will never change, and we have to deal with it.

>>152055818
ugly

>>152055731
If I do something just for fun how can I dickwave about my numbers and relevant clears

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>>152055175
who is this and why are you so angry

Alice is cutest cat nontheless

>>152055803
I d-downed them all trust me!
Even if you did, this still won't prove anything.
The lockout wasn't the reason people skipped savage, because no one cared about those fights even after fcob release.

>>152056050
I want Aranea to do dirty things to me.

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I want to woo and EB fishface but it isn't feasible. What do I do, /xivg/?

>>152056050
no bully a.a please

is it ok to wear the thav bustier again now that it's not so common?

>>152056163
kys, possibly

>>152056050
you two are super cute
best lizard and almost best moonie

someone said something about sentai mods breaking the game but it never broke mine, what mod is it that breaks the game?

>>152056163
talk to them probably

>>152055803
yes but I've seen the entire fight for t8s and I'm telling you that t9s was harder
where is your argument, the rng towers weren't that hard to deal with, you just had to act quickly on the mechanics and you had a macro to carry you if you weren't retarded

literally no one did savage scob because it was on the same lockout for the same rewards besides some titles

if it would have given different rewards like dyeable high allagan, or if it was on a different lockout then it would have been done probably a lot more

>>152056090
Nobody cared about those fights after FCoB's release because the motivation to do them was entirely challenge/prestige, both of which were pretty much gone once you had 130 gear instead of 110.

#lancia ayers #dragoon #ffxiv #final fantasy xiv #tomboy

>>152055736
That's why I mentioned "a variety of content". Honestly I love raiding, but it's admittedly an extremely niche interest that the game treats as way more important than it is. The numbers of savage clears reflect the lack of interest as well. I think the devs should make a wide selection of different ways to have fun in endgame other than having nothing but raiding, and the raiding portion of the game doesn't even need to change at all to implement it. Raiders can still get titles and big number gear from the hardest raids and it doesn't matter because that gear isn't even used for anything except making subsequent farming of the raid easier. Meanwhile there could be a ton of different things to do and different kinds of rewards for the people that don't enjoy raiding. I feel like i'm not articulating this well, but my basic point is that I think raiding should not be the focus of endgame and instead just one option in a variety of content to keep people having fun.

>>152056380
Savage coil was still a lot harder than final though, plus if you really care about the fight you can always just equip lower gears even after the lockout removal. Keep writing bullshit though, it's entertaining.

I want to EB beeby

>>152056090
>I d-downed them all trust me!
Right back at you. The lockout was the reason most groups didn't do it.

>>152056359
>I-I've seen the whole fight! I'm telling you even though I didn't clear it it's easier! I swear!
Sure thing, bub.

>literally no one did savage scob because it was on the same lockout for the same rewards besides some titles
This is literally my point.

>>152056262
who is best moon??

>>152056432
>I feel like i'm not articulating this well, but my basic point is that I think raiding should not be the focus of endgame and instead just one option in a variety of content to keep people having fun.
I've always wanted this, but unfortunately it's all that ends up being the case now. Raids end up as the endgame in almost every MMO, because most MMOs set those as the endgame goal. I don't think XIV is currently a game that could stand to break that, either.

Big, throbbing cocks.

>>152056732
ZETTAI

>>151990429
Did you still want to?..

>>152056732
purplec@

Amber

>>152056331
It's just not an option, I wouldn't know where to reach them.

>>152056732
the only good moonie is a dead moonie

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>>152056732

>>15205658
Me too anon.
Wanna EB each other to get over it?

/pet Y.Y

>>152057084
their steam is /id/ashenamethyst

>>152056732
Renko is the best moonie

>>152056732
AZURE GODDESS

>>152054405
lei, please be my gf, you're the love of my life, i want to marry you and share the rest of my life with you and have intercourse every night with passion and kissing each other while climaxing together and ejaculating inside.

>>152050460

SNU SNU

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This shit is fucking ridiculous

>tfw you wanna fuck amber and lick the blood of his legs
help

>>152056994
>>152057337
If they're the best then why did that other slut drop them???

>>152056791
That's because it's a theme park game. The point isn't to provide people with engaging, deep content, it's to provide cheap, superficial thrills and lots of shiny stuff. Sandboxes are too niche and nobody wants niche. They want a money-printing machine. That mmo history graphic from /v/ is fairly spot on.

>>152057216
Time to come see who woke up I guess.

>>152057505
you know the drill anon, help us help you by giving us some information

>>152057323
Dubious.

>>152057531
do you need help fucking them anon?

>>152057545
Probably because greencat was trying to date five people at once.

>>152057672
It's them
i don't have their discord though

>>152057726
I've heard a lot about this fiasco, but what happened exactly?

>>152057119
i love u elk

>>152057726
They're trying to get more than that, just look at the threads.

>>152057871
My understanding of the situation is that he cheated on Bruce and is literally a sociopath.

>>152057579
That's my issue, because unfortunately only themeparks actually thrive right now. There is basically no alternative, and a themepark game can't stop being one.

>>152057961
>tfw this is why brucie is so mad, he got cucked AGAIN

>>152056521
>Savage coil was still a lot harder than final though,
You're fooling yourself. Savage SCoB's challenge came primarily from two things: Heavy raid-wide damage that was extremely punishing to i110 levels of HP (but not at all hard to deal with if you had more), and maintaining sufficient DPS in i110 gear while also dealing with complex mechanics (which didn't stretch you in the slightest once you were in i130 gear).

Savage SCoB at i110 was more difficult than FCoB was at i110, but Savage SCoB at i130 was less difficult than either.

> plus if you really care about the fight you can always just equip lower gears even after the lockout removal

Which, again, is a huge hoop to jump through for most people who ditched their 110 gear during FCoB progression, and weren't particularly inclined to go back and farm up another full set - not to mention that most people doing it pre-2.4 were using VIT-melded accessories, which were a considerable expense both before and after FCoB came out.

You keep doing this stupid thing where you're making the argument that people either have to be willing to put up with a laundry list of completely unrelated, unnecessary bullshit and restrictions, all in service of finding The Truest Challenge, or the only alternative is that they're Skinner Box-addicted, casualbabby sheep who won't lift a finger without a loot carrot dangled in front of them.

There's no truth to that, and you screaming it louder and louder won't change the fact that there's a massive gulf between undertaking a challenge that presents itself to you, and undertaking a challenge that throws walls of bullshit at you and is actively hostile toward the idea of anybody attempting it in the first place.

>>152057723
sure

>>152057956
I think they're taking a break from e-dating and being unabashed about their lewdness at the moment.

>>152058176
If you truly think fcob was harder than savage scob with ilvl130, and people skipped the latter cause it was too easy with the new gears rather than it being useless then I have nothing else to tell you.

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a post made of literal s**t

>>152058350
That might be the best way to put it.

Poor purple.

>>152058234
name server and height?

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Gimme the latest ebin gossip or I'll blow your brains out!

With my gun!

how do I romance meria

>>152058506
only if you fuck my face with your gun

>>152058492
Lance Gravel
Balmung
6'8''

>>152058492
I'm from /bnsg/

>>152058506
>I'll blow your brains out!
Do you like au r-

>With my gun!
nevermind...

>>152058624
underrated post

Is it worth paying extra for the additional retainer slots? I want to get more into crafting but don't want to pay MB prices for materials and am too lazy to gather the timed stuff more than once. One of my retainers is already a BTN, the other a DoM class. I'm thinking of getting a MIN so I can send them out to gather shit while I do literally anything else.

>>152058506
Kinda, sorta cute.

>people would rather vaguely post about me and themselves rather than talk to me

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>>152058585
My sidearm's more than enough to take down a shitposter like you!

>>152058006
Yeah it's a shame, I don't really expect ffxiv to be able to do that kind of thing either. I do hope they change SOMETHING about their formula for 4.0 though, otherwise the game is going to feel even more stale than it currently does. Right now everything in the game works up to doing savage raiding; all endgame things like extreme primals or normal mode raids are to gear you up for completing the savage raids, making it the ultimate goal in endgame that most people never even see. I really hope they change that for 4.0, so that not everything in endgame is just a stepping stone for whatever raid is relevant but that some stuff is just its own thing as well.

>>152058775
Put your trip back on

>>152058629
Who are you....

>>152058484
Maybe he's realized that he wasn't really looking to have serious emotional attachments to people, it seems like he's enjoying being lewd with people.
I'll agree, I think it's for the best when the alternative is stringing along a slew of lonely individuals. And really there's nothing wrong with having erp buddies, as long as you're not lying to them about what your relationship is.

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Are PLDs fun?
Does anyone want to sponge bath my sweaty abs and thick, musky futa cock?

>>152058775
welcome to 4chan

>>152058006
There's a couple games on the horizon that might be good. I'm sure I will get lampooned with greentext for mentioning them, but check out Camelot Unchained and Crowfall if you haven't heard of either.