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We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, August 16th:
1792 – Maximilien de Robespierre presents the petition of the Commune of Paris to the Legislative Assembly, which demanded the formation of a revolutionary tribunal.
1869 – Battle of Acosta Ñu: A Paraguayan battalion made up of children is massacred by the Brazilian Army during the Paraguayan War.
1942 – World War II: The two-person crew of the U.S. naval blimp L-8 disappears without a trace on a routine anti-submarine patrol over the Pacific Ocean.

>News
EU4 DD11/08
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-11th-of-august-2016.962333/

CK2 DD 18: Optimization and Modding
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-18-optimization-and-modding.962057/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive
https://mega.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!TVA2RByJ!tuh0k4SR5gXPLtmxsMd4KZ0at9gY5s5_oV70ui8A4B0

>>[EU4] - Expensive Warfare Mod 1.0
http://pastebin.com/gThqFi54

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.5.5 - 29/07/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V8
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

>>[V2] - 7 Years v4.1
http://pastebin.com/fMCvXaAA

Old Thread >>151867000
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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Reminder
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>>151901728
Based
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>unhpm admitted being underage with his trip on
>he literally banned himself from 4chan for 4 years and won't be able to identify himself
wew
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New eu4 dlc when
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croatia is white and based
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>>151901964
Probably 3 months
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>>151902008
t. gruica
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Is Croanon unHPM?
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>>151902008
t gruica
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We can no longer sit idly by as Grandi purges his competition.

This will be the end of the Grandi Youth.
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Poland is Iranic, white and based
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>>151902087
no, he isn't
croanon is venathian, unrelated though also edgy
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Can't wait for reapers due desu
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>>151902216
It really doesn't look like it adds much though being able to disable meme events is nice
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>>151902264
The performance shit is what I'm looking forward to.
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who will be the next victim of the Grandi Youth
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>steamgroup and their members try to doxx HPM and keep shitposting about him
>they are the ones being memed one right now
Fees like justice lads.
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>>151902216
>paid shill posting this in every new thread
Can you just fuck off back to the paradox forums?
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>>151902323
Well that too but I don't believe it will be as good as they promise.
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>>151902441
>everyone is a shill
Nice conspiracy
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>>151902441
Not even him but I'm looking forward to that dlc too.
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>>151902520
>what is viral marketing
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Why won't these Samurais regenerate? The economy slider for land units says I'm buying wool for them.
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>>151902656
This doesn't look like viral marketing to me.
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>>151902520
>>151902617
>we are totally not shills guise :D p-pls buy
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>>151902656
>what is taking about games
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>>151902716
no supplies are reaching them, they need that bar on full green/orange
takes a few months for that to happen
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>>151902756
>being this much of a nut case
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>>151902827
Would moving them back to Japan help?
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>>151902901
No, you are missing something they need.
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reight my ohioblob
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>>151902967
>usa
0/10
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>>151902967
The whole map is a fucking mess.
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>>151902967
aaaaaand its shit
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>>151902967
What's your religion?
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>>151903141
This.
Iowa looks better.
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>>151903210
rust cultist, can't form the religion's titular title though
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>>151903324
What's a rust cultist?
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>>151903324
That doesn't tell much.
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>>151903413
>>151903469
>they never played rust cultists
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>>151903517
Yes, I never did. They worship rust?
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>>151903413
weird midwestern wackos who worship pre-apocalypse technology, best part of playing them is their huge attrition penalties to non rust cultists like vanilla pagans and their ability to scavange for cool stuff even though they're forced to use gavelkind
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>>151903576
Why wouldn't others be as to do that?
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>>151903576
too bad you almost never find anything good.
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>>151903685
true, i usually end up empty handed or with trinkets that are worth like 25 gold, but i did find my gun in there
>>151903660
i guess they just don't care/are scared of it
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>>151903780
>but i did find my gun in there
How do guns work?
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>>151903980
This thread also has report and ignore as the first post.
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>>151903980
That thread is pure shitposting
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>>151903936
it's a trait that gives you 3 martial, increased combat skill and morale damage, and 1+ prestige every month. sometimes you get a chance to use it in battle, i've killed a couple of people with them once
once you die your heir can inherit it, they have a higher chance of keeping it if their intrigue/martial is high enough, so your gun can be passed down for essentially forever if you're lucky
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Is After the End fun? Any new mechanics or is it just CK2 in the US?
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>>151904073
>implying you're not Alex and you didn't just post a bunch of "on-topic" shit in this thread while replying to yourself so the janny who is also you will delete the thread you don't have control of
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>>151904174
I heard it's at least well done, never played it personally.
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>>151904209
Are you going to say that I did all the shitposting in the other thread too?
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>>151902937
How do I get it then? Supposedly all I need is wool but it says I'm buying it right now. Sitting here with 0 infamy is driving me crazy.
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>>151904163
That sounds nice, why would it give prestige though?
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>>151904390
Being the only guy with a gun would be pretty prestigious I guess
Not even him
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>>151904362
Your pops consume wool too, try increasing tariffs/taxes.
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>>151904390
well it's been hundreds of years since the vague calamity that sent north america back to the medieval age where armies fight with bows and swords again, presumably firearms would be extremely rare since the knowledge to create and maintain them has been completely lost.
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>>151904559
I don't really think that's how humanity's knowledge works.
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What's a fun unciv in v2 that isn't japan?
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>>151904710
Bukhara to Turkestan can be pretty fun but it's hard and depends a lot on luck.
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>>151904672
yeah i don't think it's very realistic either, but it's for the sake of gameplay since anything besides medieval warfare would be hard to model in ck2
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>>151904710
>fun
>liq2
pick one
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>>151904710
Russia
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>>151904806
No, anything up to Victorian Era would still work fine. Just replace the skirmish and melee stages with bombardment and push stages.
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>>151904806
Yeah there wouldn't be any melee phase in anything modern.
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>>151904710
Persia
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>>151904810
Its the most gs for me, sorry you don't like video games anymore.
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>>151904923
Yeah this, Persia is pretty fun too and if you are playing HPM it has a lot of flavor.
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>>151904908
Can you remove phases?
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What's a fun formable nation in v2 that isn't Germany?
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>>151904908
are battle phases able to be modded?
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>>151904926
At least play anything other than HPM, lad
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>>151905052
>>151905037
I assume you can mod their names and pictures? I don't think you can actually remove phases altogether but giving units the same stats for all phases would basically do so.
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>>151905042
Turkestan, Pakistan, Arab Union
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>>151905104
I like HPM, why should I play something else? I tried pdm and didn't like it.
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>>151904497
I've literally had both at max since day 1
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>>151905171
NNM if you don't want anything that screws with the economy or other mechanics too much.
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>>151905247
but does it have genocide?
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>>151905247
Already did before, too bland for me. Dunno why you care so much for what mods I use.
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>>151905286
No, but you can try to put in vickymod's genocide.
Not robmod's, of course.
Or just install pre-rob vickymod/
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>>151905180
I don't know then, you are probably not getting enough for your troops. Maybe there's a war sucking it all. Try building some new troops that need and see what happens.

>>151905286
NNM doesn't have genocide.
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>>151905345
How is my post shilling for grandi? >>151905180
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>>151905446
>replying to shitposters
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>>151905446
Its just shitposting lad
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>>151904163
didn't kill this dude unfortunately
there's two events where you have a 25% chance to kill the enemy like this one, and one where you kill them 100% and get the title "thunderhand"
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>>151905540
>>151905549
>>151905446
t. grandi
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>>151905619
>only 25%
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>>151905619
That's cool. Wouldn't some firearms actually fit in late game ck2?
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>>151905619
>machinist
I assume this guy is the priest?
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>>151905881
Could be a general, pretty sure he's a baron tier title.
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>>151905945
>>151905881
>>151905763
nobody talks like that you fucking rat
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>>151905763
>The earliest surviving firearm in Europe was found in Otepää, Estonia and it dates to at least as early 1396.[22]

I guess
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this should be interesting
>>151905685
yeah that second event is much rarer, only had it happen once for me
>>151905763
that'd be cool, like hand cannons?
t. medieval 2 pro
>>151905881
actually the equivelent of burghers
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>this thread
Why
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>>151905435
I've also been trying to build new troops for a very long time.

I guess I'll just wait until westernization before I continue my conquests.
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>>151906045
Reforming on what?
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How the fuck do you play timurida in eu4?
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>>151906083
>>151906045
jesus christ shut the fuck up you autist. we know its you talking to yourself so that your ebin thread gets the posts xD
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>>151906143
Raise autonomy
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>>151906124
basically reformed pagans like vanilla
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>>151906083
Then that's the problem, no wool access.
HPM did make it very abundant on the latest patch but it had severe problems in earlier patches, try updating to the latest one if you aren't playing it.
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>>151906213
Bit that fucking sucks.
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>>151901524
>>151901524
>>151901524
>>151901524
True and Honest thread without one autist replying to himself
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>>151906224
So they are an unorganized religion? I never read a canticle for leibowitz.
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wew what a mess
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>>151906390
Better than your independent realm mapmode desu
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Did paradox say anything about hoi4 dlc or that promised patch?
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>>151906665
They just came back from vacation, probably a month until they release a patch.
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>>151906728
Fucking lazy swedes. Is there at least a good hoi4 mod out?
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>>151906857
August storm
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>>151906293
It's the best way of doing it.
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does anyone know off the top of their head if HPM changed any province borders between 3.5.3 and 3.5.5?
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>>151907057
Don't think so
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>>151907057
The ones in Turkemenistan.
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Fucking faggot fuck.
Late game CK2 is literally unplayable thanks to all the lag.
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>>151907128
Why did he remove them?
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>>151907173
Lay off the toaster.
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>>151907186
He reshaped them I think
Not even that guy
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>>151907128
You're right, now they look goofy

thanks though, do you know if that's all?
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>>151907378
Sorry, I don't know if that's all. Just remember him talking about it
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>tfw no good map mods for ck2
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>>151907221
My PC isn't a toaster, it's not my fault the optimization is worse than the original stalker.
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I WAS AT 97 WARSCORE AND THE WAR ENDED INCONCLUSIVELY FUCK THAT SHITTY FEATURE 1000 WEALTH DOWN THE DRAIN THANKS PARADOX
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>>151907519
>what is SWMH
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>>151907661
I said good
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>>151907616
Someone died
shit happens
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>>151907456
He doesn't have a changelog then does he? I don't see one in the mod folder
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>>151907739
because hes a cartoon character
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>>151907731
He has one in his pastebin
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Should I play as a Komnenos Byzantine Emperor in HIP or as Egypt in HPM?
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>>151907905
Egypt in HPM
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>>151907905
Depends, the Byzantine shit isn't a challenge. Egypt might be more of a challenge but maybe you aren't looking for that.
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>only one person spamming

You can do better than this Steamgruppe
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>>151907905
Play Bukhara in hpm.
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>>151907727
SWMH is good though
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>>151907847
oh of course, thanks!
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>>151908096
>random wastelands
No
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How do you learn hoi3?
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>>151904073
You had to tell him.
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>>151908326
There's a bunch of manuals in the archive.
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>>151908570
I ain't reading all that shit
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>>151908649
If you have attention problems go and play HoI4 then
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>>151908649
Then search for a good youtuber or something
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>>151908701
Rude
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R8 my central europe.
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>>151908868
Germany owns Baltic's but not A-L
Its trash
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>>151908838
>the general
We don't really participate in that, it's mostly a few fags.
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>>151908838
>shitposts and raids our thread
>claim we are doing it as a whole
>to try and get it deleted
wew
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I prefer reed desu
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>>151909131
Seems like the same shit that happened last time
Every time a shitposter is kicked out his buddies come out and raid the thread
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>>151908868
>cropping
>77 unread newspapers
>banat
>germany
>kebab not entirely removed 2/10
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>>>/int/63531355
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>>151908868
>kebab
I'm not taking part in the shitposting here but never use that term again
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CK2 MP when
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Rate these borders
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>americans are asleep
>thread gets shat up with scat porn
remind me why eurocucks are allowed to exist
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>>151909791
>gif
Why would I open that lad
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>>151909864
It's nothing bad, just my Germany, I accidentally converted it to a gif and then deleted the .bmp before realizing my mistake
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>>151909848
Its 6 am in Europe lad, this is the time the american niggers come to shit on the thread
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MMM big skull monster give BABBY PLEASURE
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>>151909976
>>151909974
>>151909873
>>151909724
>>151909601
>>151909556
>>151909475
>>151909424
>>151909289
>>151909243
>>151909157
>>151909086
>>151909065
>>151908996
>>151908836
>>151908714
>>151908689
>>151908556
>>151908545
>>151908316
>>151908186
>>151907996
>>151907786
>>151907592
>>151907463
>>151905345
>>151902909
Could you fuckin not
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nice thread you fucking troglodytes
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>>151905619
wot mod?
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>>151910396
That's After the End
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is there any place I can pick up a copy of After the End with the northern part of south america but for 2.4.5? I refuse to play with all the garbage conclave added
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>>151909791
>cheating
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As I said
Both threads are garbage
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>>151910696
Maybe the git repository has old versions?

Honestly, conclave isn't really that bad.
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Thinks mods.
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>>151910696
here is one for 2.4.2 but it should be fine for 2.4.5
http://www.mediafire.com/download/494r8i92dnplt8o/After+the+End+0.6.1.zip
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>>151910886
really makes you thank
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>>151910882
t. johan
shattered retreats alone are enough of a reason not to play conclave
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>>151910696
>not liking conclave
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>>151910964
Disable it in defines.lua
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>>151911002
>liking conclave
HELLO JOHAN
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>>151910901
does this have colombia and venezuela?
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>>151911049
Conclave isn't really that bad, most people got pissed at the anti-blobbing stuff.
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>>151911145
no idea I got it from reddit as I remember the dev releasing some of his versions there.
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>>151911187
>papal-abbasid coalition
>shattered retreat
>bribes mean nothing
)))))))))
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>>151910964
Not him but can't you mod it out
I mean seriously who the fuck plays vanilla anyway

>>151911187
No, Shattered Retreat, autoalliances, and opinion modifier (negative AND positive) nerfs were annoying too.
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>>151911285
the coalitions are only within the same religious group
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>>151911317
>Update to the next patch just to mod out its features
What's the purpose
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>>151911358
not when it was released
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>>151911374
It adds other shit though besides Shattered Retreat
Personally I kind of like the council although fuck the Realm Peace button, there should just be a law for (tribal) kings to be able to take sides in internal wars.
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>>151911469
Enforcing realm peace is actually good though, it stops retarded borders.
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>>151911026
how?
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>>151911558
5 secs on google
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/44davl/how_to_disable_shattered_retreat/

Or just download a mod for it
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>>151911317
>Shattered Retreat, autoalliances, and opinion modifier
You can mod out this stuff, I'm not bothered by autoaliance of opinion modifiers.
The patch was mostly good.
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>[V2] - Make Liquor Great Again for HPM 0.3.5.5 by Liquorlad*°
>This minimod reverts liquor production, consumption, and price values back to vanilla.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o42kc4rjg24rtiv/makeliquorgreatagain.rar?dl=0

>[V2] - Legacy of Slovenia v1.01*°
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>>[V2] - unHPM v1.5*°
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx

>>[V2] - Robmod v2.5°
http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

>>[V2] - Visegradmod v3.2°
http://pastebin.com/C8swKB9t

>> Updated Waggle Pastebin*°
http://pastebin.com/33A7wXdB

* The R&I may sperg out if you download this
° Talex and his Grandi Youth may harass you if you download this

Remember to disregard Talex-aligned shitposters.
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>>151912025
Hey you didn't add my thingy
Was it not good enough
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>>151912157
We saw your steam group attempt at getting us deleted lad.
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rate my germaniums pls
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>>151912074
I'm sorry lad, but I didn't have enough time to test your mod. Would you upload some pics proving that it does what you said?
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Fuck the HoI4 AI is bad, any mod that improves it?
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>>151912732
huh?
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>>151912767
Its hard coded lad, no mods can do it
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>>151911525
Yeah but it makes no sense. I'd like the ability to simply intervene instead.

>>151912024
Well yeah I know you can mod it out, but people are criticizing the patch for what it delivered, not what it has potential for. Also you can't mod out autoalliances from what I can tell.

>>151912272
>>151912405
Can't you people STAY banned?
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>>151911708
will it work with other mods? I've been trying it with after the end but it refuses to work
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>>151912953
>Yeah but it makes no sense. I'd like the ability to simply intervene instead.
It does though, you are the ruler and you are telling people to quit it.
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>>151912613
How about this
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>>151913020
And you can only do this once every 10 years for 5 years at a time? What?
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>>151913015
It should work with any mods.
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>>151913073
It still needs some constraints so it isn't extremely annoying for a player vassal.
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>>151913215
This.
Imagine the AI fucking with your wars every year.
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>>151912157
>Steamgroup is crying to mods to get us deleted after getting BTFO'd
wew
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>thinking you can get /gsg/ deleted

what is dead may never die
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>>151914184
They probably want us to move to 8gag since cobra is a janny there
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Reminder that Radical Yugoslavia and the Grandi Youth are children threadlings trying to latch onto the MEMEBLOC™ memes
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>>151914269
we'll never move because their board is shit and dead
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>>151913523
>>151913215
That's why I said it didn't make sense though. I personally would've preferred a law for kings to be able to simply side with a certain vassal, esp. one of your dynasty or a Friend.
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>>151914335
That's why they want to kill us, to get us to move there
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I didn't have the time to work on the mod these last few days, so nothing new to report really. Still need to deal with a better way to track who sent missionaries where and who killed the missionaries of who too.
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>>151913117
I've been trying to get it to work, but now when I delete files in my mod folder as soon as I start the game it crashes, then spawns the files back
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so Radical Yugoslavia isn't the only steam group? how can i join the others
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>>151914432
Fuck off Alex, all day was horrible here again because of you
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>>151914360
Not him but I don't think kings waged war against their own vassals unless it was treason, that isn't part of the feudal contract.
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>>151914507
t. rob
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>>151914432

delete your account
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>>151914432
> Still need to deal with a better way to track who sent missionaries where and who killed the missionaries of who too.
And I still need to deal with that before moving on educating princes.
That will probably work with you choosing a country based on their NV (order, liberty, equality, productivity) and the results would be based off that. A prince sent to a country with order NV could bring back a military reform, one to a liberal country could try to reform the economy, for example.
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>>151914710
There are no accounts in 4chan lad
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>>151914770
the joke

your head
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>>151914828
Jokes are supposed to be funny
Making sense is good too
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>>151914873

>If I'm too dumb to understand a joke it's not funny
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>>151915028
>new IP
>third time posting it here
At least try to make it look like it's not being coordinated.
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>>151915028
honestly this shitty general really needs to be deleted for a few months

don't think i've actually seen it this bad before, it needs a nice reset
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>>151915105
i actually saw it on page 1 while browsing /qa/ and wanted to see if you guys knew
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Why did the thread just repost itself? It happened in the /owg/ just a few minutes ago too?
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>switch over to Russia
>see this
wew
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>>151915449
It's a bug and it didn't happen for me.
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>>151915506

bravo HPM!
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>>151915449
It usually happens during massive delete or ban waves.

Your talking about the "undefined" shit right?
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>>151915569
yes
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>>151915506
what I'm supposed to be seeing here
why did you swtich to russia
who were you playing as
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>>151915449
>>151915569
actualy it means two threads just got merged

search /gsg/ in the catalog and click on the thread without the infopic, the undefined shit shows up
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>>151916091
actually no it doesn't try replying to it

i just replied with "what the fuck" and the thread reappeared

its like the mods tried to merge or delete the thread and fucked up
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>have too many held duchies so everyone hates me
>council doesn't let me give them away

what the fuck
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>>151916179
>he fell for the conclave meme
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How does one play Qing in HPM without killing themselves?
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>>151916252
By gitting gud
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>>151916223
I wasn't getting the hate for the first couple hundred years. Now it's really bugging me. They just seem illogical. I want to revoke a county to prevent it from becoming part of the Byzantines when the owner dies, but I guess that's fucking tyrannical. That and having no idea how to keep the council satisfied at all. In my first kingdom they literally bullied me until I gave them all the powers they could have and I couldn't do shit. Luckily I was able to destroy that title later. I wish it was more of a give and take thing, maybe slightly weighted towards the council as the years go by, but right now it seems like its impossible to scale back any of the power those fuckers have.
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>>151914537
Maybe Tribal kings could?
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>>151916316
teach me senpai
cuz atm it's sit afk for till 90s, stabilize, catch up, the warlord meme happens and u are left literally with 1province
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>>151916363

You have to use favors, anon.
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>>151916456
I think you're actually supposed to just play as whichever clique you like best at that point
Unless you're adamant about uniting china under the qing monarchy and having them lead it into the modern age, which is a cool thought but weird and doing it probably should be quite difficult
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>>151916045
I forgot why I switched over, but literally all of its factories from the past 3 years are clothes factories.
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alexei grandes
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>>151916495
None of them want my money
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>>151916678
lmao this
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>>151916624
the ai probably conisders it pretty important, kinda like when they build a car factory in every state
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>>151913065
Show me pics from the trade window lad.
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>>151916737

No, you have to promise them favors for favors. There's a diplomatic option for it.
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How often do you name stuff in your grand strategies, /gsg/?
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>>151917914
Depends who I'm playing as and if I know shit-all about their naming conventions.
If I don't I'll just name them generic stuff like "Alpine Patrol" / "Channel Guard" / "Imperial Fleet" / "Western Border Guard".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN2JUMrCFe0

The initial round of gunfire killed only the Tsar, the Empress and two male servants, and wounded Grand Duchess Maria, Dr Botkin and the Empress' maidservant, Demidova. At that point the gunmen had to leave the room because of smoke and toxic fumes from their guns and plaster dust their bullets had released from the walls. After allowing the haze to clear for several minutes, the gunmen returned. Dr Botkin was killed, and a gunman named Ermakov repeatedly tried to shoot Tsarevich Alexei, but failed because jewels sewn into the boy's clothes shielded him. Ermakov tried to stab Alexei with a bayonet but failed again, and finally Yurovsky fired two shots into the boy's head. Yurovsky and Ermakov approached Olga and Tatiana, who were crouched against the room's rear wall, clinging to each other and screaming for their mother. Ermakov stabbed both young women with his 8-inch bayonet, but had difficulty penetrating their torsos because of the jewels that had been sewn into their chemises. The sisters tried to stand, but Tatiana was killed instantly when Yurovsky shot her in the back of her head. A moment later, Olga too died when Ermakov shot her in the jaw.
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>>151918048
>Ermakov stabbed both young women with his 8-inch bayonet, but had difficulty penetrating
:^)
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>>151917914
Not often at all.
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>>151917914
Always in Vicky 2 and EU games.
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>>151909624
t. kebab
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bump
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>>151920468
ded thred
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>>151917914
What are you playing as? Israel?
Why not David's Legacy instead of Solomon? David was more of a warmonger
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>>151921427
Pretty sure he's playing as Ethiopia.
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AFPG where's my SS Germany flag reee I won't be posting for most of today so, If anyone sees Him please let me know when I'm back
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>>151918048
weird i was just listening to that exact song

also rip nicky :_:
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>>151917914
whenever the merge units changes my cool sounding grossgermanium prussian names

too bad only 1 war against russians and maaaaybe one against bongs left till its over

slightly unrelated
tell me why the AI only protects its southern english shores, i took my inferior fleet, landed my armies on northern scotland and conquered half of britain before the AI even responded
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>>151922551
That's pretty autistic.
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>>151922610
t. memeth/rob mad he got driven away while based modders like HPM and Hitlermod can stay
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>>151923020
>autistic
where do you think you are
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>>151922551
Because Wiz is a good AI programmer
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>>151923128
Oh, i forgot you fags were raging autists who care about the shapes of colors and lines in a video game.

I'll be going back to my superior general, /twg/.
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https://youtu.be/Io8dEKCMmek

This is now a German supremacist thread
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>>151923197
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>>151923197
it was good before the last expansion
i remember bong armies marching in europe, actually invading with sizeable armies
now all it did was sit around LONDON with its 200k
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>>151923248
>now
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>>151921683
What's the difference? They're both fuck ugly
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>>151923128
I know lad, I know. But there's normal autisitc and renaming everything autistic, that's what I was talking about.
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>>151912025
Hey, in unHPM has "Unemployment Benefits" been renamed "Autism Bux" or "Tendies". Because if not, you totally should.
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>>151923237
REEEEEE TOTAL WAR ISNT EVEN GS JUST FUCK OFF THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING AUTISM
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>>151918048
>but communism is for the greater good goyim
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>>151923358
reminder that Alex Grandi is an alcoholic who cant get away from liquor
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>>151923197
t. Wiz
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>>151923020
i started doing it when i was playing sweden
finska armee sounds alot more better than 7th army

i also recruit so my regiments arent just from 1 province and try to be historically accurate
>cavalry must be polish territories
even if theres zero advantage from it
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>>151923495
what if the real alex found his pictures being posted on an autism simulator general
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>>151923495
Those Grandi eyes tho
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>>151923558
he'd probably lie that it's not him and come up with shitty excuses
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>>151923495
t. 0us12
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Favourite /gsg/ approved GSG personalities GO
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>>151923915
Podcat
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>>151901915
Am i banned?
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>>151924094
>ban evading with your trip on
Not very smart.
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>>151923495
>>151923578
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>>151924121
I dont think that i even got banned
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>>151924164
You admitted being a 14 year old.
That's a certain ban.
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>>151923915
>>151924068
Fuck off, Arumba is the one and only true ruler of /gsg/
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>>151924196
I know
and i am suprised just as you
Was something interesting posted about me in the last thread after i left
How it looks like its just some guy spending 4+ hours looking through shitposts and calling me a liar
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>>151924281
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What did he mean by this?
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>>151924435
johan schooling pedophiles
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>>151924281
Go back to funny junk/9gag/reddit underaged faggot
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>Bavaria is GP while Prussia and Russia are secondary powers for 95% of the played years.
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>>151924196
unHPM is actually 14 years old? I'll need proof of this
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>>151924094
>>151924164
based unHPM standing up to the Grandi Youth
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The blob train has no breaks. Should I try to go commie
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>>151925651
Yea
And you should try to get yunnan or to turn the other indochina nations into commies
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>>151925651
How long did it take for you to westernize?
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>>151926036
Took me a while. Here's a screenshot from right after I westernized.
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>>151926126
What happened to british siam
how did they get released
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>>151914721
Hey HPM, hope you're going well.. I sent you a bunch of fixes and changes and new flavor the other day. I made some more and corrected the bugs out. Pick and tweak, as usual:
https://mega.nz/#!PdhS1ZjI!SYudOM2pW3Ge-7pim9j1eQeRuC3hZV05rsCHzXCq3tY

Simple changelog:
- Changed the APOC decision & event.
- Scrapping the PCR and Kevah events for now.
- Reused an event to change capital when you westernize as Persia.
- Edited flavour for Persia that led to bugged or unconvenient output.
- Changed some province names in Central Asia to pre-Russian era.
- Made a decision for Russia to organize Central Asia.
- Made a decision to get uncolonized Bereket if you own the rest of Turkmenia.
- Changed the POPs and OOB of Persia to be more historical.
- Made the Trip to Europe an unciv event not unique to Persia.
- Changed how Amir Kabir and the Dar al'Funun work.
- Event for the 1847 Erzurum Treaty.
- Event for the Allahdad.
- Added flavour event for Ludwig II of Bavaria.
- Added flavour decision for the construction of Neuschwanstein.
- Race Riot province event for the US.
- Events for the Südtirol-Trentino Compromise - as one anon requested.
- Did a small event for Landell de Moura - as one anon requested.
- Decisions to claim and rename Artois as the Netherlands - as one anon requested.
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>>151914721
Spanish Flu global event when
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>>151924435
This post has more respectfully disagrees everytime I see it
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>>151927414
[ ] Agree
[ ] Helpful
[x] Respectfully cucked
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Daily reminder that MEIOU in Texas will save EU4 and the Grand Strategy genre

APOLOGIZE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfxtOzN-2t8
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>>151928024
There are newfags that will seriously think M&T is bringing population to EU series
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>>151928107
Fuck off mana pro
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>>151928107
But that's what the video is about
>>
Jesus christ.
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>>151928562
was Japanese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shing%C5%8D,_Aomori
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>>151928612
Really makes you think..
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>>151928107
That's exactly what they're doing you retarded faggot.
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How to fix gsg?
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>>151928963
Less railroaded discussion
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>>151928963
you have to get people to actually play grand strategy games somehow.
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>>151929679
I can host a vicky 2 game.
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>>151929726
I'd like to play MP but I have a feeling there wouldn't be any RP and autists here would just blob as much as they can
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>>151929813
shameless blob = kickban
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW3yaI8i7ss

t.urkslayer
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Can I rename provinces in Vic2?
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I know it sounds retarded but can we ACTUALLY report and ignore shitposting?
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>>151930075
You can with events and editing the savegame
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>>151930447
The previous thread was full of unhpm screenshot shitposts, which arent related to /gsg/ or any video games in general
I lost any respect towards R&I, you are the real shitposter here
>>
Which Komnenian should I play at 1066 in HIP lads (actually going to stick with it this time)

1: Alexios of Bucellarians
2: Isaakios of Paphlagonia
3: Manuel of Cappadocia

They're all right next to each other in Western Anatalian Duchies for reference
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Should i do it? do i even have enough time left to do it?
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I don't get it. I don't fucking get it.

Step 1. Create a Steamgroup
Step 2. Advertise it on the site by hosting a MP game
Step 3. Make the MP game a pleasant experience so that more people are interested to join it
Step 4. Occasionally exchange some interesting content and/or guides.

This is literally fucking it. It's the easiest fucking thing there is and you autists have destroyed this board because you can't do it.

Who the fuck is Alex Grandi? Who the fuck is Cobra? Who are the radical Yugoslavians? Why do you expect me to know anything about them? Who the fuck is unHPM, unHMM, flagposter and why do they act like celebrities? Why are entire threads devoted to them? Why even good threads have atleast 33% content of trip/sg drama? WHY DO YOU CANCER UP /VG/ WITH MULTIPLE THREADS AND THREAD WARS???

FUCK
YOU

AUTISM
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>>151932426
yes
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>>151932426
Enough time lad.
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>>151933008
There's a major flaw in your plan, it relies on the fact that the people that go on /gsg/ arent complete social autists.
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ok guys. in eu4, how can i disable estates and territory cores. both of them are unimmersive and blatantly annoying, especially that territory thing that makes me fucking do math each time a conquer a new province to see if it's worth coring or not.

note that i don't want the reformed diplomacy favor system to be disabled. which by the way it fucking sucks, since your allies will not declare war on common rivals if they do not have a common land border with them, unless you have favors (gee hungary sorry, we don't owe you any favors, good luck against the fucking ottomans).
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>>151933898
Just core everything
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>>151933008
>Occasionally exchange some interesting content and/or guides
What about all those other things you shitposted all over the site. Rad Yugoslavia, Alex Grandi and Cobra is some new, shitty memes, you've been shitposting with simpson porn and yohan for ages before that. Fuck you for catching me on your bait, will report now, should've just ignored it.
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>>151934008
I think the guy you replied to is from /gsg/mp group, not Turk's group
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>>151933008
I agree. We should create a steamgruppe called Moderate Yugoslavia.

Moderate Yugoslavia is a steamgruppe of peace.
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>autistis think that radical yugoslavia is a meme they created

It's what all of gsg thought when they saw it, laughed, then moved on. How autistic do you have to be to beat a dead horse so hard.
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I am in a crippling debt and the revolutionaries overthrew the emperor and i am now a Federal Republic but i think its worth it
>Byzantine France
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>>151933898
It would be easier to dow nload a version of EU4 before those DLCs
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>>151935737
>not owning all of Anatolia and the Levant

Justinian would be ashamed
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>>151935737
t. /r/eu4
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i dismantled france, what now?
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i have no idea if this will work
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>>151935880
Why are you missing that one province in the Levant?
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>>151935954
>United Baltic
diamonds
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>>151928107
That's literally what they're doing though.
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>>151935954
Why does Russia not own ukraine.
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>>151928024
>civ-like """"""""""population"""""""""""
nah fuck off cunt eu4 is still shit and will always be shit
>>
How should i produce my units in DH? Serial or Parallel?
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>>151935817
Unless i want some Hot Russian and Persian cocks inside my holdings that will have to wait
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>>151936208
>peasant class
>middle class merchants / scholars / inventors
>upper class
>urban population weighting
>population based outputs and research time
>nonstatic trade centers
>le civ population xD
Nigger
>>
Dude what if trade always went one way and all trade in the entire world ended in venice

>you're hired

Anybody want to play Eu3 MP?
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>>151936305
Both. For example I often queue up something like 6 X 99 infantry and stop it when I think I have enough.
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How to go full development in Meiou ?
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>>151936208
Stop talking and APOLOGIZE
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>>151936438
I'm probably too shit

>>151936567
Pass development edicts
Centralization policies
Build public baths and universities
Stay at peace
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>>151936657
Does colonizing stuff slow down the development process ?
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>>151936783
I don't think so, development just happens slowly.
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>>151936858
Also, should I exterminate cultural and religious minorities ?
>>
Anon, plz upload this mod http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=703916652
Downloader isn't working.
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>>151936923
Cultural takes far too fucking long and you can't do it manually anyway
Religious is probably worth it, you won't have enough money to be building things in provinces left and right anyway
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>>151936657
What he said,also keep manpower high and hire advisors that increase development.
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>>151935954
air force investment pays off

>>151936141
because i took it in ww1
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>>151937442
Who is that hottie ruling the USSR?
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>>151937092
What advisors?
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>>151937954
The ones that have bonus to development
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>>151937442
Fucking stacks
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I blobbed as Russia....quite a lot.

Should I take Inner Mongolia?
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>>151937808
Kerensky
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>>151938642
Post a screen and then we can pass the judgement.
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>>151938749
I don't know how......
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>>151938897
Taking a screenshot or uploading the image?
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Does the Ck2 to Eu4 converter just not work anymore? I try exporting my save and it says it works but then no mod file shows up in my eu4 launcher
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>>151939246
>using converters

Do it manually senpai
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>>151939318
how
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>>151937442
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>>151939395
Edit all province files to create the world as it was at the end of CK2
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>>151939508
t. NEET pro
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The pic is 8mb, what do i do?

Needs to be 4
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>>151939703
Make it a .jpg
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>>151939703
jpg, friendo
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>Bosnian Flag
10/10
Bavaria formed Czechoslovakia at the start of the game for some reason
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>>151939246
I converted CK2 2.4.5 save to EU4 1.17.1 yesterday, it worked, but all names fucked up.
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>>151939741
>>151939774

How?
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>>151940080
>open in paint
>save as .jaypeeg
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>>151940009
>Just fuck my Europe up
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>>151940019
the 2.5.2.2 Patch resolves that problem
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Here is Asia. I was a proletarian dictatorship for 20 years changed because I got bored of extending factories every 5 seconds.

Yes I cheated to become a republic, couldn't handle being a communist shithole any longer.
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>>151940437
Also should I take West Bengal?
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Oh God what are you doing Brazil
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>>151940556
India is rightfully Russian.
t. great game
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>>151940437
>muh warm water ports
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Here's Europe.

Funny thing after I, Italy and Yugo, started cucking Austria they went full retard.

Communist revolutions followed by fascists/reactonary revolutions. They went back and forth for about 10 years.

about 70% of their country is fascist now.
Same with Hungary, buy I have my army there to protect the republic.
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>>151940437
>I got bored of extending factories every 5 seconds
Is gommunism really that good for industry?
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>tfw getting rid of all of my clippers to get dreadnoughts
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>>151940723
How much should I take?
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>>151940009
Oh, fuck, I think I'm going to be sick...
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>>151940757
Yeah, that why i did it.

Heard a story of Russian monarchs wanting to conquer Persia, so I did it.
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>>151940437
Release Stan's and take that piece of Mongolia, please! And no, don't take fucking Bengal.
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>>151941225
Why should I release the stans
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>>151940840
post nationalities
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>>151941371
of europe or asia?

I didn't genocide anyone
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>>151941338
Because it looks like shit
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Oh and speaking of nationalities.

Something weird happened in Vilnus. The population is over 60% Askhenzi jews.

It's the only place it happened and I have no clue why.
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>>151939468
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>>151941495
your population screen lad
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>>151935957
I released Israël who released Palestine. It's the vassal of a vassal and it sucks.
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>>151940575
>>151940915

How is it to play Indonesia?
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>>151941834
oh, here it is.

my first game in HPM, so i might be a little bad.
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>>151942023
It's fun. Hard to form, and you're missing some of the RGOs like coal, but you can still industrialize pretty well and you have a lot of pops
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Should Grand Strategy General be renamed to Autistic Underage Children's Daycare General?
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>>151942245
We've been good except for the simpsons / naked dude spam up the thread. And your post, I guess.
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>>151942070
>30% russian
0/10
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>>151942351
>animeposter judging anyone
Come join me on 9gag.
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>>151909791
>-940mil
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>>151942410
How can I increase this without genocide?
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>>151926665
Thanks a lot!


>>151926946
The flu events are already set up in a way to try to simulate that.
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>>151942782
Would it make sense for there to be a decision to accept the Philippine culture in Indonesia, or to allow the Philippines to form Indonesia?
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>>151942956
Considering Indonesia is a sunni tag and well, the colonial differences between these two that have an implication in their culture, I don't think it would. They are unrelated to each other.
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>>151902471
last time they said a patch would make the game run faster, it ended up being slower because they added India at the same time.

This time I think they might really have improved things though, considering what I've heard about multi-threading support and stricter culling of NPC:s.
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>>151943061
I don't see how it makes any less sense than allowing a country to form Malaysia and Indonesia in one game
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>>151943139
Their ""tests"" if you trust that they didn't outright lie show a marked improvement.
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>>151943326
Why would Paradox lie? They're awesome
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>>151943401
I don't think they'd lie outright, but honestly they have some real old guard coders who are better visionaries than programmers and designers.
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>>151943293
That doesn't make much sense either, I will do something about it in the future. Though granted, Johore and the sultanates are sunni, not catholic like the Philippines, and they share a culture (malay) while the Philippines doesn't share anything.
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>>151943538
Well from what we were told it should be fine, the idea behind it is solid unless they managed to fuck up and use a while loop or some shit to do that
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>>151943559
While you're doing so, you should also add a decision to organize the Philippines. If you release them in 1900, they're a primitive nation, and that doesn't really make sense
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>>151909791
>encourage farmers
For what purpose you fucking retard?
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>>151943401
>They're awesome
Hello rreddit
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>>151943726
He wants more farmers
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>>151943559
Hey HPM man, what is your opinion on the steady decline of gsg?
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>>151943823
>less shitposting and more games discussion is decline

sup reeddit
>>
Reminder that unHPM and the steamgruppen are literal underage retards and they want /gsg/ to die so that reddit can take over.
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>>151943715
I know, I know. I have a few problems with how civilizing work (like the released nation having full techs and inventions) but I will do it.
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>>151943912
Seems to be they want to delete /gsg/ because shit is hitting the fan for them.
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>>151943912
There is no steamgruppe rad yugu is dead
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>>151944204
>he thinks rad yugo was the only steamgruppe out there
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>>151944031
Hey HPM, here is the population data for Japan I compiled the other day.

http://pastebin.com/JQstkiRn

The main thing I found out is that some of the initial pop numbers are likely wrong.
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>>151944271
Yeah, beacuse turdslayer and le kojak and rob are doing so much shit
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>>151944271
They're newfags.
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>>151944031
Lad do you know PLC tag still exists in your mod or did you not notice it? Removing Byzantium but letting them stay doesn't make much sense to me but I don't know much about PLC. Also the conditions to form them was weird IIRC, I remember trying to do that as Lithuania and it requires you to directly own Warsaw and Krakow, you can't form it if Poland is in your sphere and is your friend or whatever, you have to war them and take them
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>>151944332
they came here yesterday when Gruica was getting BTFO though.
they were there when Reed got BTFO as well.
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What would be a good name for an Anglo-French nation?
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>>151944480
This
They raid this general every time one of the shitposters gets BTFO
What a coincidence huh
Gruica is also part of their steamgroup btw
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>>151944480
>Gruica
Who?
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>>151944301
>7139
holy shit
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>>151944626
Dual Monarchy
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>>151944642
unHPM's real name.
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>>151944626
Kingdom of France
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turkslayer is cute could someone link his jewbook profile.
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>>151944738
I am a staunch Hillary supporter.
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>install MemeIOU
>1 day in-game now takes 1 game in real life

damn...
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>>151944794
>>151944626
>>151944690
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>>151944301
Thanks a lot!
Stuff like Karafuto and Hokkaido though it's a little more complicated since the growth was related to migration.

>>151944410
I'm aware of that. I don't really consider it equivalent to Byzantium since it died 41 years before the game start but after the lithuanian national awakening it also doesn't make sense. Until I decide what to do with it I'm just leaving it in.
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>>151944642
A 14 year old Croatian neo Nazi that thinks he's german. Frequently uses reedit, 9gag, 8gag and funny junk, spams the thread and posts /gsg/ stuff in funny junk along with meme compilations.
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>>151945145
so what
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>>151945145
>reedit
a daring synthesis
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>>151945145
Wasn't unHPM Australian?
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>>151945267
So this site isn't for underages, especially for funny junk, 9gagger, reddit scum.
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>>151945267
>so what
>he sees no problem with underagers shitting up the thread
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>>151945397
then just report and ignore
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>>151945392
No. How the fuck can you even think that? He can barely speak English.
>>
Independent /gsg/ game maker dude, are you here?
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>>151945474
I do, thanks, but the mods missed the fact he's underage and literally admitted thst with his trip on
>>
what does unhpm actually do?
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>>151945606
fairly certain he was memeing lad, until I see hard evidence I'm not buying it. Dig deeper.
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>>151945735
memes
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>>151945509
thanks :)
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>>151945736
There isn't "I'm just being ironic" to evade bans with this shit, mods will ban you if you admit you are underaged
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>>151945947
but they haven't banned anything though
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oh geez oh man what did I miss last night?
too busy getting high from Salvia
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>>151946002
Perhaps nobody reported it? I'm usually too lazy to report posts, I pretty much never do it
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>>151946002
Allegedly
Which is why we need to bring to their attention so we can get rid of underages
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I. do i make Kurdistan?
II. should Memel go to Lithuania
III. should Germany got Austria?
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>>151946182
yes
no
no
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>>151946086
You missed some good fun at the expense of another shitposter
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>>151946182
no
yes
yes
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>>151946182
no
yes
yes
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>>151946182
>kurdistan
Make Assyria you muslim loving cuck
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>>151946349
r&i getting aggressive
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>>151946349
>>151946086
pic related
don't cross him on the street or he will 'punc' you in the face
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>>151946182
I. All national peoples should have a homeland.

II. Memel should go to whomever is the majority there.

III. Germany and Austria should be unifed as Germany.
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>>151946182
Yes
Maybe
Maybe
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>>151946456
kurds are based and white, unlike t*rks
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>>151946182
no
no
yes
also make a Armenia out of Turkey
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>>151944992
>Until I decide what to do with it I'm just leaving it in.
What about some Miedzymorze federation tag ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium
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>>151946530
>Reed and Gruica both underaged
wew
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>>151946456
Is that even possible in HPM?
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>>151946774
>>151946530

>people who constantly and incessantly shitpost are underaged
what a surprise, no wonder they are banned from 4chan
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>>151946530
Jesus Christ even more pathetic than rees
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>>151946692
That doesn't seem any more likely since it also involves creating a multicultural state out of a bunch of nationalities that want self rule.

>>151946775
Assyria is a tag, yes.
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>>151946949
He's even more pathetic than Reed, I mean
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2015 never forget. The fall of Germany.
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>>151946986
>Assyria is a tag, yes.
why
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>>151947089
Really made me hmm
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>>151946986
I'm also in favor of removing the PLC. You can always do a poll.
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>>151947168
trigger warning: nigger music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF2ayWcJfxo
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>>151946582
>assyrians
>turks
take the arab dick out of your mouth
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>>151947117
It's from NNM, I assume it's mainly to stop the christian population in those areas from assimilating and to represent some of the nationalist desire for self rule.
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>>151940203
Eh, fuck conclave.
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>yung yohan is white
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>>151947303
I liked the ideas of making the council more realistic and making deep gameplay more interesting and making it harder to hold unrealistically massive empire but 1) they didn't really succeed at that and 2) why the fuck did they import bunch of shitty mechanics from EU4 that no one asked for or wanted?
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>>151944992
Hey, I think it would be neet if on acquisition of a colony it asked uou what you wanted to do with it, with settlement (only for Madagascar. South Africa, East Africa and Algeria, alternatively for everything on your continent if you're playing as Japan or South Africa and want to settle Namibia.), Resource gathering (ship a dozen or so primary culture bureaucrats there) or leave them be as long as they remain loyal (-.5 militancy)
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>>151947295
Fair enough, I guess. But shouldn't it at least have another name? Assyria sounds too memey
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>>151946986
HPM, would it be possible to have farmers and labourers in completely filled RGOs migrate or demote to craftsmen faster?
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>>151947390
wat u mean?
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>>151947420
The one thing I liked about the Council desu was that it was fun to read the reasons why they gave a shit.
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>>151947434
https://en..wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_homeland#Early_modern_period

>>151946986
Any chance of you making soldiers capital only?
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>>151947568
>The one thing I liked about the Council desu was that it was fun to read the reasons why they gave a shit.
I liked their impotent rage when I took away all over their land for myself and my family rendering them powerless and then appointed random people from my family instead of "powerful" nobles (that were mostly mayors and shit like that) and then they'd get super upset over it but unable to do anything because of my high intrigue and awesome spymaster.
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>>151946986
Please add the RGO size reduction to techs that increase mining and farming efficiency back.
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>>151947295
Can you not add an event or anything revolving around Rattachism? It was a legitimate movement during the time period and doesn't deserve to be ignored. If you eon't want France to get free cores to blob, fair enough, but the movement needs to be acknowledged.
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>Portugal
>NV is productivity
"Historical" Project Mod
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>>151945498
>He can barely speak English.
So he's Australian?
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>>151947859
Just get a fair seductress on the throne, you don't even need to fuck anyone to enjoy dat +45 opinion bonus from existing.
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>>151947915
What NV would you propose?
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Is this event present in the vanilla game?
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>>151947915
>Germany
>NV is not ""equality""
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>>151947923
Reddit tier joke, man.
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>>151948008
tribalism
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>>151948058
t. bogan
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>>151948008
Equality, since Portuguese are fond of their Moor brethren.
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>>151948101
See >>151948058
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>>151948046
Are you memeing or stupid? Equality was never really part of German society and they never even really asked for it. Germans were always all about order through hierarchy.
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>>151948040
no
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>>151948162
see >>151948058
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>>151948178
You're confusing Prussian culture with German culture, Prussia isn't German culturally.
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>>151948040
>Teutonic Order having colonies

wew smhfam
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>>151948252
see >>151948058
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>>151948256
>Prussia isn't German culturally.
Prussia is extremely German culturally considering the original Baltic Prussians got genocided and replaced by German settlers.

And are southern Germans more pro equality than the northerners? If anything, looking at Germanics as a whole, it is generally the northern ones that are heavily for equality since Scandis were dirty hippies even in the Middle ages.

And southern Germans are what, Swabians, Bavarians and Austrians? Frankly none of them seem were pro-equality to me.
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>>151948162
>>151948252
>>151948413
see >>151948178
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>>151948565
that doesn't even make sense at all, but thanks for the (You)s
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>>151948423
Prussia doesn't exist anymore
>>
Reminder that Germany should be divided into 4 cultures that are totally distinct from one another:
North German
Prussian
Rhenish/West German
South German
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>persians
>intelligent """"people""""

pick one and just one
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>>151948649
Sure it does it's just under different administration now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast

this triggers the German
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>>151948639
damn you sure got me... but at least you gave me a (You) back
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>>151948668
please map this out in vic2
where are the swiss?
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>>151947295
Hey HPM, I don't know if this is already the case, so apologies if it is. But I know the Arab Union gets cores over pretty much all their land, but I was wondering if they also got cores on the Arab majority Khuzestan province of Southwest Iran.

On another, seperate issue, I feel cores should be based on ethnicity for ethnic union states like Germany, Italy, Turkey, The Arabs, etcetera. It doesn't make sense that a 100% German Krakow wouldn't be considered an integral part of the German nation.
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>>151947429
I couldn't really make out well what you are doing, but I kinda get the spirit. I thought about doing colonial policies and I actually think it can be a good idea, but maybe it's something that would be better implemented with NFs so it isn't universal. Problem is, the AI wouldn't use it in that case. Never made any decisions about this stuff though.

>>151947434
It's the name they use and all, so there isn't.

>>151947493
I had this in an earlier patch but it was interfering with migration. Right now migration is faster for those cases though I'm also considering reverting it as the balance between colonial migration, external migration, internal migration and demoting is delicate.
It does make sense though and it contributes to stopping problems with huge communist/socialist rebellions.

>>151947636
I thought about it and suggested a long time ago, got rejected by most people. So, no plans to do it.

>>151947879
That's an old AHD thing and it would potentially fuck stuff up with massive rebellions. They removed in HOD for a reason.

>>151947892
Rattachism is mainly a modern phenomenon, with the movement appearing in the 20th century out of a radicalized part of the Walloon movement, which itself is a direct consequence of policies enacted in the 1880's in Belgium. During the time frame, most calls for union came from radical liberals or the bourgeoisie that feared an independent Belgium would have no world market, and wanted it either be part of Netherlands or France.
Unless you can bring something about rattachism being relevant in the 19th century, I won't do it.

There's still the problem of French irredentism but that's a little more complicated since any eastward expansion is kinda difficult because of the whole Napoleon thing. Besides, France is one of the natural GPs and I prefer to leave them without irredentism as it's already pretty easy to do it without anything helping you.
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>>151948836
>where are the swiss?
...obviously South German. Though >>151948668
I'm not convinced there's German West German culture, I'd stick to dividing Germans into North, South and Prussians. West Germanics are Dutch and Flemish.
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>>151947295
>I assume it's mainly to stop the christian population in those areas from assimilating and to represent some of the nationalist desire for self rule.
Does Vicky 2 have any way of setting up different assimilation rates for different populations possibly even different assimilation rates for the same populations in different provinces? So in one province/state/country the population might be extremely unlikely to assimilate (such as Christians in the middle east) while in another they might be perfectly willing to assimilate (such as Poles in Germany).
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>>151948980
>Swiss culture is the same as German culture
t. Gruica
>>
>>151948680
t. Alexander Doropopolopolopodopolopodoplopodpolopolopolodopolopodopolus
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>>151949161
> the population might be extremely unlikely to assimilate (such as Christians in the middle east) while in another they might be perfectly willing to assimilate (such as Poles in Germany).

But exactly the opposite of that happened
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>>151948980
West German culture is perhaps not apparent today, but it certainly is during Vic2's time frame. The Rhineland region was the first part of Germany to become heavily industrialized and urbanized, creating a wide culture shift between the West German bourgeoisie and the rest of Agrarian Germany. The Rhineland was overwhelmingly liberal, and later socialist, compared to the rest of Germany. To consider the Rhineland area "North German," putting them on the same cultural level as Mecklenburgers or Pomeranians, is ridiculous.
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>>151949292
>Swiss are special snowflake Germans

t. Schweizer
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>>151947295
Hey HPM, gotta few issues to report

The Sangihe and Talaud islands are part of the Mindanao region in game when they were never part of the Spanish Philippines and should be held by the Dutch.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangihe_Islands
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talaud_Islands_Regency

Sweden can still enact the decision to abandon Finland even if they take back Finland, I've seen them decore their own provinces because just their consciousness was too high.

The German decision to rename north Papua requires them to hold Bougainsville, which isn't part of the NNG state.
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>>151949161
>Poles
>Perfectly willing to assimilate into Germany
The fuck are you on about, all germanization efforts in the Polish provinces were total failures.
>>
>>151949398
>Prussians, South Germans and North Germans can be special snowflakes
>Swiss people, which have literally never been part of Germany, cannot
>>
pls /gsg/ help a fellow autistic pirate by giving him a link to the Vic2-HOI4 converter.
>inb4 GOY4
I know it's irredeemable shit, but i wanna see how much shittier it can become.
>>
>>151949496
>The fuck are you on about, all germanization efforts in the Polish provinces were total failures.
Over 2/3rds of modern day Polish territory were ethnically German, both Macklenburgers and Pomerenians used to be Polish ethnicities before they were assimilated into Germans as was most of modern Poland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostsiedlung

When they started Polish-German borders were similar to much later East and West German borders and by the time they were done most of Poland was German.
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>>151949569
>implying anyone here actually bought goy4
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>>151949650
Map to illustrate the point. Only the leftmost darkest orange used to be German in the 700AD
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>>151949650
>Slavs in Germany just assimilated and they weren't butchered by the thousands and forced to assimilate
Also, you're talking about a very different time period not included in Victoria 2.
>>
>>151948963
I still maintain that if Belgium was split between the French and Dutch speaking peoples that constitute it there would be almost no opposition.
>>
>>151948963
At which point are you going to start working on that 1815 start date? I'm not asking for a date or a timeframe, just curious on what you want to finish before you start on it.
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>>151949939
>I still maintain that if Belgium was split between the French and Dutch speaking peoples that constitute it there would be almost no opposition.
The reason Belgium was united and kept united was to counter the French power. And by the time Germans became far bigger threat than the French it was a bit too late to dissolve it.
>>
>>151949650
>Over 2/3rds of modern day Polish territory were ethnically German
Well geez I wonder what happened
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_from_Poland_during_and_after_World_War_II
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>>151948668
There's 5, you forgot Dutch/Flemish
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>>151950062
Why would the French support a revolution against them?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_Revolution
>>
>>151948963
Hey, HPM!
I don't know how busy you are, but could you consider and even chain for this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Slovenia
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>>151950235
>Dutch people are German
well memed my Kaiser
>>
>>151950235
There's 6, you forget French/Picard/Walloon
>>
>>151950373
we see you Cobra
>>
>>151937041
Pleaseeeee :3
>>
Please come back dedalus, I miss you.
>>
>>151950235
>>151950472
There's 8 you forget Czech/Moravian
>>
>>151950621
Who?
>>
>>151950886
Reed James and Quinn Benson
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>>151950787
t. dedalus
>>
>>151950413
>>151950472
>>151950883
t. Geert Wilders
>>
>>151951034
Who? I genuinely wanted to ask HPM that.
>>
>>151950883
There's 9 you forgot Slovene/Croat
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>>151950235
Erm... guys?
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>>151951406
>tfw Gruica became the pope
>>
>>151951406
There's 10, we forgot Lombard
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>>151951517
Who the fuck is "Gruice"? I swear you don't come here for a month and immediately you don't know a thing.

I thought HPMlad was the only namefag in the threads besides steam grouppe shitposters?
>>
>>151951564
There's 11, you forgot French/Frankish.
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>>151951406
Back in EU4's time, Dutch was a German culture without a doubt, however they've been drifting away ever since the formation of the Dutch state to the point where they can only be considered "Germanic"
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>>151951649
see >>151950472
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>>151951614
It's unHPM's real name. He got exposed yesterday for being a 9gagger, funnyjunker and redditor and posting shit from here to funnyjunk.
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>>151951614
See >>151945145
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>>151951649
No I didn't
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>>151951792
If Hitler won would he incorporate Dutch like he wanted Chechen too?
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HPM, I know you have pan Arabism represented, but why don't you have anything about pan turkism, particularly after the fall of the Ottoman Empire when Atatürk and the young turks looked for an endeavour to restore national pride and bolster their position on the world stage.
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>>151951864
>>151951792
Oh, so he's pointless meme cancer. Great, just what the general needed.
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>>151951943
>Turks
>people

T*rks are roaches that swarm about Europe threatening to break in and break all our shit up.
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>>151951941
No, he would fulfil Willy's dream of a grossburgundiums
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>>151951943
>Poland, Ukraine filled with Turks
>none in Germany
Not even memeing here, I actually don't understand what this map is trying to represent.
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>>151951943
Mate having divided nation is a nightmare.

Just check out what happened to Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Speaking of stuff i didnt know Azerbeijani were Turks. Theyre not semi Greek like Georgian?
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>>151951792
In other words, he was doxxed incompetently by the Grandi Youth who found no real information but that he uses funnyjunk which somehow magically also meant he's a 9gagger and redditor
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>>151952281
Most maps still haven't been updated to account for retarded levels of immigration in the last 20 years. For example maps about eye or hair color or prevalence of white skin are still decades behind.

It will be funny when maps and data finally start reflecting the real situation and all the normies get shocked at the effects of >muh it's racist to resist immigration.
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>>151952303
Persian corridor m8
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>>151952429
>funnyjunk which somehow magically also meant he's a 9gagger and redditor
To be fair funnyjunk is worse than both of those.
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>>151952429
His 9gag and reddit account was posted here and it was proven that he unironically still posts on these websites lad.
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>>151952436
>be Serbia
>such low standard Immigrants dont want to stick around
If only Albanians didnt exist everything would be cool.
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>>151952303
It wouldn't need to be disunited, just link it around the Caspian.
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>>151952582
I don't even know what funnyjunk is desu
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>>151952614
>If only Albanians didnt exist everything would be cool.
If lot of people didn't exist everything would be cool. If you take out Muslims and immigrants out of Western European stats the crime rates, murder rates, rape rates, assault rates are basically non existent. They do happen just extremely rarely and every once a decade or less you have a guy like Fritzl not once a fucking week.
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>>151952703
a website for redditors that like to pretend they go to 4chan
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While we're at it, can we just post some cool maps?
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>>151952429
No one doxxed him lad, they just posted his cancer shit then he doxxed himself like the teenager retard he is
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>>151952854
So just like /gsg/ uh?
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>>151952703
I only encounter it when I'm looking through google images since they're often the host of ton of pictures. From what I've seen it's like reddit but dummer though probably less self righteous (because only tumblr is more self righteous than reddit).
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>>151952829
Well now that you mention it if alot of things happened it wouldve been different.

30 years war + Habsburgs could split Europe in two instead.
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>>151952882
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>>151952882
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>>151952998
top kek
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>>151953063
>gained from oman
>jask
>bandar abbas
HPM needs to add these. Gross Omaniums will rise.
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Nani?
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>>151952912
kinda
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>>151952829
>tfw European criminals used to be master rusemen rather than islamic terrorists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Voigt
>He had purchased parts of used captain's uniforms from different shops and tested their effect on soldiers. He had resigned from the shoe factory ten days previously. He took the uniform out of baggage storage, put it on and went to the local army barracks, stopped four grenadiers and a sergeant on their way back to barracks and told them to come with him. Indoctrinated to obey officers without question, they followed. He dismissed the commanding sergeant to report to his superiors and later commandeered six more soldiers from a shooting range. Then he took a train to Köpenick, east of Berlin, occupied the local city hall with his soldiers and told them to cover all exits. He told the local police to "care for law and order" and to "prevent calls to Berlin for one hour" at the local post office.

He had the treasurer von Wiltberg and mayor Georg Langerhans arrested, supposedly for suspicions of crooked bookkeeping, and confiscated 4002 marks and 37 pfennigs - with a receipt, of course (he signed it with his former jail director's name). Then he commandeered two carriages and told the grenadiers to take the arrested men to the Neue Wache in Berlin for interrogation. He told the remaining guards to stand in their places for half an hour and then left for the train station. He later changed into civilian clothes and disappeared.

Voigt was arrested on 26 October and on 1 December sentenced to four years in prison for forgery, impersonating an officer and wrongful imprisonment. However, much of the public opinion was on his side. German Kaiser Wilhelm II pardoned him on August 16, 1908. There are some claims that even the Kaiser had been amused by the incident, referring to him as an amiable scoundrel, and being pleased with the authority and feelings of reverence that his military obviously commanded in the general population.[1]
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>>151952882
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>>151953220
It wasn't really gained from Oman: it was lended to Oman by Persia and it just went back to them during the dynastic troubles in Oman.
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>>151953284
>German South America
>not colonizing Canada and New England
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>>151952882
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>>151952969
>Well now that you mention it if alot of things happened it wouldve been different.
True dat. Best case for Europe would have been quick German victory in World War One on the Western Front.

Which isn't some pipe dream, only reason German advanced got stopped is because of the so called Miracle on Marne in early September 1914. If Germans won in Marne and took Paris by ~15th of September 1914 the rest of France would have easily fallen by late September. Britain would be isolated, Germany would have broken the economic blockade and gained a ton of bases on the Atlantic coast for their navy (which was bigger than the Royal Navy in 1914) and they could have focused all their efforts on Russia which would have fallen by mid to late 1915. With some decent diplomacy to keep the Americans out of the war Brits would have been forced to sign some sort of armistice, perhaps if the British isles themselves were in danger of being invaded, and Germany would have established dominance from France to Kamchatka.

Afterwards we would have avoided the 20s and 30s which were realistically build up to another war and would have gone instead to Cold War but slightly less cold state between three superpowers: US, rapidly declining UK and Germany. Germany would establish its own cultural and media sphere across Europe and Asia and Africa and the American dominance of the media and film industry never would have happened so much of the world would be indoctrinated in German culture and would speak German language. Also because Nazis would have never happened they never would've derped and killed or driven away all their best scientists so technological progress would have been even greater .
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>>151953585
This is why
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>>151953813
what about Canada
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>>151952882
Note this map is pre-invasion and several years of mass immigration behind real numbers.
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>>151954025
>Russia is the least European
what a surprise
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>>151953806
And what about KuK?
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>>151953770
what did you mean by this?
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>>151954025
You do realise how small the numbers of people moving is compared to the actual populations right?

At most we're talking single percentage points and that's assuming outlandish amounts of movement.
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>>151948836
>Swiss
The swiss are pretty unique, so swiss german probably makes more sense than calling them South German, considering Niederlandisch/Dutch makes more sense for the Flemish Frisians and lowlanders
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>>151954025
>85.0%
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>>151954247
Even a drop of foreign blood pollutes the purity of the entire race
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>>151954025
Poland and czechia are based
slovenia and croatia too
but I don't think Albania/Greece should count as "European Origin"

>>151954130
That's only because all of their steppelands are inhabited by turkics
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>>151954140
They probably would have collapsed. Honestly I think Kaiserreich models what would have happened to them the most realistically - they would've gotten territory but they were already on the verge of collapse and sooner or later there was going to be a rebellion that they wouldn't be able to put down and the Germans would have to be called and Germans would just integrate them even further in their economic dominance project (Germany had a plan to create a European Union sort of system in 1914).
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>>151954025
lmao all countries above 95% are not even european
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>>151954247
>literally millions entering Europe a year
>implying a shift of 1% a YEAR is insignificant
>not even counting the children of immigrants either
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>>151954130
Russia still has a ton of Mongols that they never bothered to get rid of during their empire phase. So now they have Tatarstan that's 99% Muslim and Tatar and Chechnya and ton of Kazakhs and shit like that.
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>>151907173
>playing to "win"
>trying to play 700~1500 campaign
>not just setting a goal and ending when you've met the goal or doing silly stuff in CK2 for fun
u wot
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>>151953967
Its not claimed but there are not many rich regions,also Portugal is spreading protestantism in South America and i want to stop it.
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>>151954420
>finland, iceland, portugal not european
lad... you're right
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>>151952998
>tsunami and source at top

At least remove that.
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>>151948903
No, they don't get it.

That's a bit more complicated. Cores are a mix of historical claims and ethnicity, so if Cairo gets 50%+ german immigrants it isn't historically considered part of Germany.

>>151949161
Technically, but it would be need to be done on a case-by-case basis. Cores already represent that pretty well though.

>>151949434
>The Sangihe and Talaud islands are part of the Mindanao region in game when they were never part of the Spanish Philippines and should be held by the Dutch.
Seems they are part of the wrong province, Davao.

I will fix it, thanks a lot!

>Sweden can still enact the decision to abandon Finland even if they take back Finland, I've seen them decore their own provinces because just their consciousness was too high.
The AI defaults to not doing it if they own any Finnish core though, so if they are doing it there's something wrong.

>The German decision to rename north Papua requires them to hold Bougainsville, which isn't part of the NNG state.
It's a vanilla problem, thanks, it's fixed!

>>151949939
Well I respect your opinion, but that really wasn't the case during the era and the GPs were very wary of napoleonic ambitions.

>>151950010
I usually have a work plan set in my head but that doesn't include any dates. It was originally planned to be one of the last things to do, though I might work in it sooner rather than later as stuff changes order when I get more interested in something.

>>151950373
I'm not sure I get it, what would it do?

>>151951943
Well there's a huge cultural divide, only an ethnic one links them. Besides there's Turkestan already.
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>>151954326
>That's only because all of their steppelands are inhabited by turkics
And Moscow and St. Petersburg (the only cities worth living in).
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Can someone point me in the directions of a basic guide on trade in eu4?
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>>151954247
You do realize two people become 4 who then become 8 who then become 16 and so on?

Immigrants are now reaching numbers where their exponential growth and much much higher birth rates will threaten to overtake majorities in most of the countries with mass immigration scheme.

Also >>151954325 fuck off Europe is for Europeans.
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>>151954659
blob in trade nodes that steer trade to your capital node
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>>151954420
>based polan
>not European

bitch please, they're who you have to thank Muslim savages didn't penetrate into Europe in 1683. And Croats and other south Slavs fought against Muslim invaders for as long as they were in Europe.
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>>151954656
>No, they don't get it.
Well they should. It's Arab majority and considered part of gross arabiums.
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>>151954659
EU4 isn't allowed in this general. It's clearly a 4x game: eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, anneX
Try the 4x general.
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>>151954656
HPM you werent here for ages!
Check out accepted cultures for India BTW.
You missed a few imo.

Also check out Johor army and one next to it.
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>>151954915
>It's clearly a 4x game: eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, anneX
I thought it was racist shitposting generral?
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>>151954480
You're making several faulty assumptions, firstly that there is a 100% acceptance rate. Which is complete nonsense as acceptance from some places is near 0. I a million people come to the WHOLE OF EUROPE per year (lets not forget that a large chunk of the movement is coming from european balkan countries so they're not so much moving into europe as around it) and then factor in that for every 300k accepted 100k are rejected. The number slims more and more when you put it under scrutiny.
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>>151954896
>sudan
>arab
uh
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>>151955084
t. Ahmed the "German"
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>>151955051
This forum is for English-speaking people only.
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>>151955091
He has preserved the integrity of his Caucasoid genetics.
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>>151955084
>from some places is near 0.
That's literally only in Eastern Europe. Even Denmark, with toughest immigration laws in political Western Europe accepts way too many immigrants and asylum seekers.

And Germany doesn't even send back the ones that rape. There were two stories recently that really illustrated what the situation is - one is that one of the Cologne rapists that had also participated in some burglaries gets to stay in Germany and the other is that Merkel is strongarming German companies into accepting immigrant workers.

That's what that is, it's pure unbridled greed of the elite class that have betrayed European people and decided to replace us with people that they can pay fuck of a lot less combined with some naive or outright self hating faggots among the elites that hate that they're white and European and want white Europeans to disappear.

European elite needs to be purged, is what I'm saying.
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>>151954732
Is this literally middle school? because that's the level of critical thought you're applying to your projection. Factor in people moving back home, changes over time in trends as the younger generations assimilate (right now yes there is a bit of a trend of isolation, which mainly comes from the degree of antagonism there is towards many of them) And that's literally just off the top of my head, I could sit down and poke more and more holes in this. The US will experience a major demographics shift towards Hispanics far before Europe.
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>>151955504
>>151955084
>>151954480
>>151954247
In which game?
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>>151954962
Sorry, I'm too busy with work lately.

I will check these things out, thanks.

I need to go now, so have a good evening.
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>>151955084
>I a million people come to the WHOLE OF EUROPE per year
That's the same shit that feminists always pull - if the numbers for US/EU don't support their argument then the numbers suddenly become about "women around the world".

Similarly people are saying "oh Muslims will only be 10% or only 15% of the ENTIRE EU population" which means close to or 50% in multiple single EU countries. That from a demographic that didn't fucking EXIST in Europe 20 years ago.
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>>151955626
Vic2 with the NWO mod
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>>151955504
Two whole stories.

Are you going to provide me with something more substantial than tabloids?

And I'm talking about countries of ORIGIN, not destination, if you aren't from a country that is literally war torn you don't have good odds of getting in, even afghans struggle.
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The French population only grew by 8.6% between 1871 and 1911, while Germany's grew by 60% and Britain's by 54%. Ferdinand Foch joked that the only way for France to permanently improve its relationship with Germany was to castrate 20 million Germans.If the population of France had grown between 1815 and 2000 at the same rate as that of Germany during the same time period, France's population would have been 110 million in 2000.

Why did this happen?
Also id assume France has much much higher ingame growth for game purposes.
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>>151955740
Fuck off, Alex.
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>>151955781
>And I'm talking about countries of ORIGIN, not destination, if you aren't from a country that is literally war torn you don't have good odds of getting in, even afghans struggle.
Are you literally retarded? 80% of "Syrian" refugees aren't Syrian and even those that are stop being refugees when they burn their documents and forcefully enter Europe.

And the stories are to illustrate the general point, there are enough stories of Muslim abuse, violence, crime and rape in Austria that they're actually electing Far Right moron only because he loudly hates Muslims. It's THAT bad.
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>>151955906
France, always being at the cutting edge of Western culture, entered the modern phase of lowered birthrates and collapse of the traditional family before the rest of Europe. This is actually represented in-game, most French provinces have liferatings of like 32 as opposed to the standard 35.
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>>151955761
and?

and secondly that isn't necessarily true at all. (it theoretically could be which is the only reason I don't dismiss it) what you'll see is populations reach around 5% in some places while there is literally a war engulfing several Muslim countries. There is always a large voluntary return when the situation cools down.
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>>151956118
Did you forget about this? >>151954025
France has 15% non-French population according to this map, and that's using 2014 data, missing the insane increase of immigration over the last 2 years. Modern-day London is less than 50% British, and most large British cities have huge Muslim and Hindu populations.
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>>151956118
>and?
And it's an invasion of Europe by hostile foreign invaders that want to replace European culture with their shit one. If we weren't ruled by total cucks we'd be fighting being replaced by Muslim savages.

> reach around 5% in some places while there is literally a war engulfing several Muslim countries
I don't give a fuck about Muslims killing Muslims or Americans killing Muslims or Muslims killing Americans. Only thing that should matter for Europeans and European politicians is Europe and the best thing for Europe is to end all immigration from the Middle East and to throw out majority of those that are already there. Since they love claiming they're Syria they can just dump them there.
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>>151956115
I dont think HPM ever tried to simulate 60% growth in 40 years though.

Thats basically... 0.1% per month or something?
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>>151956002
No people FEEL like it's that bad. Partly because of over sensationalism by irresponsible tabloids.

And what you're saying is just divorced from reality, you WANT to keep your records because without them you're not going to get anywhere. If we reject around half of everyone that applies for asylum from afghanistan which is a conflict zone with major problems do you think we're just going to say "yeah brah it's cool"

The acceptance rate from places like syria is high, but not from everywhere.
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>>151956417
Again, look at the fucking game dude, most of Germany's provinces have 40 liferating to simulate that growth.
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>>151956432
>And what you're saying is just divorced from reality, you WANT to keep your records because without them you're not going to get anywhere
So you admit you haven't followed the news for the last ~2 years and don't know a thing about 2 million documentless "Syrians" that burned their documents so they couldn't be traced back to their countries refusing to listen to EU's instructions and forcefully breaking out of Greece and into Europe proper?

Are you literally fucking retarded or brain dead or uninformed or what? Please don't tell me you have the right to vote?
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>>151956378
You signed those treaties and agreed to play on the global stage. You don't get to go "oh but we might have to do something other than enjoy the benefits now!"

>Modern-day London is less than 50% British

Because of the huge amount of Europeans that live in London because of it's status as a financial centre? white British may be in the 40s but white overall is near 60. You underestimate the sheer number of people who live in london because their company wants people in their london offices.
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>>151956760
>You signed those treaties and agreed to play on the global stage. You don't get to go "oh but we might have to do something other than enjoy the benefits now!"
So, according to you, governments don't get to control their borders, control who enters and exists a country and control who stays in the country?
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>>151956705
No, document-less refugees is not a fucking plague, stop drinking the bullshit kool-aid, the undocumented ones don't get to just settle, they're by and large stuck in a legal limbo in turkey. I'm sure some have managed to get in illegally, because there will always be some people that do. But your figure does not show up on any credible source outside of 2 million in turkey.
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>>151956527
Thats actually around 0.25% pet month now that you mention it. I wonder what was i thinking. Are British provinces like this too?

Oh right, how come French never tried to get some Natalism around?
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>>151956857
They do, and they made the decision by agreeing to these international conventions and treaties, you don't get to go "NAH MAN TAKE-BACKSIES BRAH"
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Fuck off to >>>/pol/
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>>151957041
Lad... Turkey is European and White...
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>>151955740
Hey HPM, how did you make scottish culture spread? I can't find the files, and when i tried using assimilate = yes, it didn't work, I cant find any other effects on the wiki.
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>>151957310
>>151957303
>>151957173
t. plague upon Europe
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>>151956115
>(((modern phase of lowered birthrates and collapse of the traditional family)))
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>>151953806
>its not unrealistic to think the schlieffan plan could work
I mean, its not impossible, but the problem was it depended on an easy walk through Belgium they didnt get and a rail system that ran like clockwork which is difficult to find when you are being shelled/sabotaged.
The Marne was the turning point but they even "lost" the race to the sea.
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>>151957394
France did have super weird birth rate, though. They were the second most populous country in Europe in 1789 behind only Russian Empire with 29 million people (even modern France has only 66 million) but then when the rest of Western Europe was experiencing ridiculous population explosion (Britain's population increased 4x during the 19th and early 20th century) France's population stagnated and there was barely any growth.

But then after the post WW2 baby boom when rest of Europe was experiencing huge slowdown in population growth France was growing again and now it's set to overtake Germany as the most populous country in the EU in the next few decades.
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>>151957694
>kill everyone in wars and revolution
>why did the birth rate slow down
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>>151906857
I'm working on this alt-history "Napoleon won" mod, it's coming along nicely, not done yet though

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=698650453
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>>151955781
>Even Afghans struggle
This is true enough in Britain and Denmark, but Germany's open door policy let over 1 and a half million immigrants into the shengen area and half closing them now isnt solving the problem, there are swimming pools in Germany with segregated male and female swimming times because immigrants dont understand look but dont touch, Im not that guy but there really are too many immigrants coming into Europe at the moment.
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>>151957846
I mean, that's the reason why (French raised 2.5 million strong army in 1793, first time in the west that army stronger than million men was raised since Roman times) but the weird part is that there was no post war boom or anything like that. You'd expect birthrate to explode after the Napoleonic wars especially once the Industrial Revolution really kicked in there were improvements in medicine.
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>>151957896
>modding for GOY$

why
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>>151957896
>"Kingdom" of Louisiana
>"Kingdom" of America
how?
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>>151958017
>>"Kingdom" of America
George Washington should have betrayed the revolution and proclaimed himself king and America a kingdom. It would've made US a lot cooler.
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>>151953806
If the Franz Ferdinand wouldn't be shot and Austro-Hungairan fucks would have agreed on some sort of federation, we maybe wouldn't have WWI and rise of communism and fascism all together
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>>151958017
The real reason is so America isn't a superpower

I posted some backstory in the forum to explain it though

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/apr%C3%A8s-moi-le-d%C3%A9luge.941600/
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>>151957981
That isn't always the case and they spent a long ass time killing people, not only in the army.
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>>151958185
>Error
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>>151958107
It wouldn't have even been a betrayal, the revolution was about taxation without representation, as long as there was still a parliament with seats and representatives it would have been exactly the same only it would be a king instead of a president.
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>>151958107
The whole purpose of the American Revolution was to get rid of the King
>>151958185
>on the forum
>sharing the mod with paradox shills
>thinks I bought that cashgrab
kek
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>>151957409
I remember reading an argument that in part it was their neutrality with Netherlands that hampered German ability to supply troops in Belgium/Northern France, due to the limited number of rail lines they had access to.
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>>151958178
Yes but someone needed to counter the growing American power. Quick German victory and establishment of German superpower has the advantage that it counters and likely beats rising American superpower.

Also there are a lot of historians that think that if World War 1 never happened all of the great industrialized European empires would have rocked with massive millions strong communist and socialist revolutions.
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>>151958314
an American king would represent the interests of America instead of Britain
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>>151958314
>>151958236

Alright, here you go

http://pastebin.com/CyU3kM0u
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>>151958178
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1905_Russian_Revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Constitution_of_1906

Gommies were always going to gommie.
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>>151958185
>You must be logged-in to do that.
nice backstory lad
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>>151958314
>The whole purpose of the American Revolution was to get rid of the King
was to get rid of BRITISH king, American king would have been fine and George Washington was exceedingly popular.
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>>151954656
For United Slovenia, maybe make an event chain for that, when Slovenian population in K.u.K. has conscious over a certain amount or something like that?
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>>151958457
Hell the Decembrists were pretty much proto-socialists. Almost like socialism is a basic part of human nature and the dictatorship of the proletariat is inevitable.
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Any good eu4 mods ?
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>>151933008
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/gsgmp
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>>151933008
/gsg/mp is based and white
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>>151958965
Why is it by invite ?
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>>151959059
To preserve the purity of the white race.
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>>151958890
VEF
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>>151959271
hahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>151958965
Sounds intriguing, how do I join?
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>>151959221
Great,more teenagers.
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>>151959396
teenagers are white
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>>151959396
teenagers are based
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I took all of ireland in CK2 and now I'm fucking bored. Also all of my vassals hate me (my heir) now for 0 reason.

Back to HoI3
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>>151959713
Sup Reed
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>>151959765
nm, you?
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>>151954656
>comparing a city right on the edge of the border to Germany with a non-coastal city on another continent
C'mon HPM, find a better analogy or admit you're wrong
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>>151959730
I find the short reign shit for CK2 to be a bit stupid
everyone hates the new king for no fucking reason
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>>151960825
I actually agree. I can see why in pagan cultures (the new king hasn't yet officially killed anyone as a king) but in Christian feudalism? Shit just doesn't make sense. It doesn't mean they'd have to love the new king for being a new king but they'd be neutral about that particular aspect of it, it itself would carry no positive or negative.

But it's just another example of gameplay over realism in Ck2, a game where Byzantium is feudal and called Byzantium.
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http://cyorir.com/Vic2Industry/Vic2Industry.html
Please forgive me. I went on to Reddit.
Have a large breasted redhead as a gift.
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>>151961065
>http://cyorir.com/Vic2Industry/Vic2Industry.html
what the fuck is this lad
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>>151961007
Calling it the roman empire would be even worse seeing as everyone but the arabs called it the greek empire and naming greek culture "roman" would be retarded

It only makes sense for christians if there's a succession of short reigns
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>>151958890
EU4 is a 4x game, discussion of it isn't allowed here
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>>151960825
There's a power vacuum after each succession. It makes perfect sense that vassals would use the new rulers inexperience and lack of respect to increase their own power.
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SO HOL UP
YOU BE SAYIN
WE WUZ
INCAS AND SHIT?
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>>151961271
>>151961271
How
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COME ON LETS PLAY MULTIPLAYER MY FELLOW /GSG/IITES

REPLY AND I SHALL HOST

MOST VOTES WINS

>(1) EU3
>(2) CK2
>(3) Victoria II (specify if you want mods)
>(4) Darkest Hour
>(5) Darkest Hour with Kaiserreich
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>>151961250
Some would. Others would back the king up more than usual though - some old timers and dynasty members for sure. Or late kings friends/debters.
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>>151961393
>>151961393
>>151961393
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>>151961065
>The focus of the early game should be on securing access to these resources. For Great Power starts, it's best to try to take these resources from other Great Powers. A United Kingdom player might open with a war to take Picardie. A Russia player might start by taking Schlesien. A Prussian player might start by taking Bohemia. A French player might try to take Granada. All of these opening moves will provide you with resources necessary for industrialization, while denying them to your nearest competitors.

This is epic dude
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>>151961250
No there isn't, there's a power vacuum if a crisis happen, how the fuck an well established monarchy with hundreds of years reigning leaves a power vacuum during a succession?
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>>151961343
Go fuck yourself
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>>151952882
>>151952882
Hey man I love maps and collect them aswell. I have some aesthetic as fuck maps.
1/?
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>>151961791
go to the next thread you meme
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>>151961343
>151961343
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hpm
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Anyone have a better battle sound for Victoria II? The base game one is terrible
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