/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.

After being BTFO the steam group is begging the mods to delete us on /qa/
Pathetic

>>151961405
Fuck you

>>151961405
Classic 6 second reply OP

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HAIL

COME ON LETS PLAY MULTIPLAYER MY FELLOW /GSG/IITES

REPLY AND I SHALL HOST

MOST VOTES WINS

>(1) EU3
>(2) CK2
>(3) Victoria II (specify if you want mods)
>(4) Darkest Hour
>(5) Darkest Hour with Kaiserreich (Yes, it works)

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Why does Germany do this?

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It's amazing how sometimes women on the paintings from centuries past look modern. Take this for example, put her in modern clothes and you'd never think it was from 17th century.

>>151961583
Go fuck yourself.

>>151961736
it's how the AI reacts to massive revolt risk.

>>151961616
Not all are well established. Also, it's not like every vassal with a low opinion tries to gain independence or install a claimant of another dynasty. Most just want crown authority lowered.

>>151961747
Wrong board.

>>151961838
Oh, I see, ok. Thanks.

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Also 19th century prostitutes > 21st century prostitutes.

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forced memes are based and white

>>151961405
I LOVE this post

>>151961747
wtf is that child doing?

>>151961583
EU3 desu

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>>151961761
SO THE LEGENDS ARE TRUE GSG IS NOT A PLACE FOR VIDEOGAMES BUT A SHITPOSTING AND AUTISM SUPPORT GROUP

>>151961930
FAT SLAG IF I WANTED ONE OF THOSE ID GO HOME TO MY WIFE

>>151961876
Yes they are, I mean if the crown of england has been under Capet rule for centuries, a succession isn't a power vacuum, it's routine. Unless there's a crisis, there's no power vacuum during succession in a monarchy.

>>151961583
I would say darkest hour, but last time I tried a bag mp it crashed, and this has ruined all my motivation since then

>>151961583
3, HPM

>>151962105
is greekposting the fresh new meme lads?

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>>151961932
I agree

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>there will never be a migration era grand strategy game where you can carve out a homeland for your obscure tribe from the crumbling roman empire

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now im a child

>>151962097
ONE VOTE FOR EU£

>>151962194
ONE VOTE FOR DEPRESSION AND APATHY

>>151962213
ONE VOTE FOR LIQUORIA

How do I get people to go to colonial California as Texas?

Does HPM add any interesting shit to countries that wouldn't be enjoyable otherwise?

>>151962313
WtWSMS senpai

>>151962486
Yes, especially for Paraguay, Argentina and Netherlands

>>151961523
desu I kinda wish they do it, I'm fucking sick of this general. This has to be the shittiest general on /vg/, nobody ever discusses vidya here, there's at least one raid every day orchestrated by some assmad underage autist and nobody ever plays MP around here.

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maps 2/?
Let me know what you think of my maps.
And if you ahve requests let me know and I'll see if I can find it.
I personally like maps of areas you never really see or get to know. > see next post

>>151962128
>yes they are
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_monarchs

>>151962649
You're not posting vidya here either

>>151962649
Then leave you fucking retard

Daily reminder that Grand Strategy is the whitest, malest genre of games and that never before has a nigger, sandnigger, or girl pondered "should I use this money to build dreadnoughts to counter the UK or build railways to increase Spain's industrial power?"

>>151962540
The swmh map and cpr portraits have spoiled me too much. Dont know if i'd enjoy it

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>>151962682
These are cool, I'll post some from my own collection as well.

>>151962820
Mainly because girls are good enough to have both at the same timewhile niggers and sandniggers are too poor to actually play the game
:^)

>>151962324
3, HPM

>>151962682
AYYO HOL UP
Why is Cairo on a map of ANCIENT Egypt?

Threadly reminder that turks are whised and bate.

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>>151961583
WE HAVE 3 VOTES FOR MP

IS THIS ALL YOU CAN OFFER GSG?

>>151963063
Is he holding the kid's set

>>151963063
just host liqouriums with hpm senpai

>>151961583
3, HPM

>>151962758
t. reed's underage minion

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>>151963024
LIQUORIA GAINS AN OUTSTANDING VICTORY FOR ATHENIAN DEMOCRACY

THE PATRCIIVIVIS HAVE DECIDED

THE SERVER SHALL BE HOSTED SHORTLY PREPARE YOURSELVES WITH THE LATEST VERSION OF HPM

>>151963327
What checksum familia

>>151963063
HPM lad

>>151963327
alrighty

>>151963393
this

>>151963327
gib checksum NOW

>>151964014
How do I change my checksum?

>>151964092
>how do I change my checksum?
Wew lad, first day on /gsg/ huh?

>>151964014
Are you using any minimods?

>>151964014
>inb4 missed picture of greek

Lads, give me Russian names for new leaders after Stalin.

>>151964149
ebin

>>151962820
Pajeet here...

>>151964443
Google them yourself you retard.

>>151964443
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavrentiy_Beria

Bastard for a bastard.

>>151962313
Total War: Attila ;^)

>>151964014
I have SCOF and I'm pretty sure I haven't changed anything, what checksum do others have?

Ok, when does the game start?

>>151964635
>>151964014
SCOF here too

>>151964635
TCOF

>>151964635
I got SCOF too.

>>151964548
I don't want historical people, I just need random Russian names for the more radical choice desu, unless you think I should put real people for that.

>>151964594
I'll read that in the mean time, thanks.

>>151964635
just restart the game, it changes the checksum each time

>>151964443
Beria, Kruschev and his conspirators, all the major generals during WW2 or one one of the influential people that survived Stalin's purges.

Or Malenkov-Stalin's named successor.

>>151964821
t. >>151964092

>>151964635
>>151964670
>>151964712
Aye, SCOF here as well me mates

>>151964897
ok

I want to add the choice for the player to basically become more radical and focuse on taking back Russia, with natalist policies and faster industrialization and all of that, so wich one of these >>151964861 lads would fit this the most?

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HAHAH YES OF COURSE SCOF IS THE CHECKSUM

THE SERVER WILL COME SOON

I have VCJN, and I am not the host
>>151964935

>>151965135
Do flags change checksum? Maybe you installed the AFP

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SRLY ADOLF?!?
this shit is fucked

>>151965196
They don't.

>>151965240
NAZI ZOMBIES

>>151965196
I didn't, all vanilla exept for hpm

>>151965240
>GOY$
>with the most meme mod possible
>playing as gommies

>>>/r/paradoxplaza This way, please

>>151965281
when you put it that way its kinda make some sense

>>151965240
The modder decided to make the zombies fascist..

>>151965307
Well, then make sure you have the Wiz memepatch and the latest HPM from the OP

my checksum is vcjn and france has a teal coloured flag what the fuck has happened to my vicky oh god shit

>>151965512
>Wiz memepatch
? It wasnt mentioned anywhere

>>151962128
There is though, especially if the new Monarch is young, Vassals will want to see how strong a leader the new King is, this is less likely if he is older and has been active in politics longer but it can still happen.

>>151965572
well get it lad

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Ok, so Beria doesn't seem to fit unless I misunderstood this, and Kruschev did the de-stalinization thing. Was there anyone that was more radical or something? Or will i have to come up with a name?

>>151965572
Do you have 3.04 lad?

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Blue is non negotionable, but what other states should I take?

just start it already I'm waiting

also to anons having trouble, delete cache, make sure you have stock HPM, all dlc and memepatch

>>151965572
>being this new

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>>151965384
amazin butt blow

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>>151962682
>>151962894
Wow this one is awesome.
I like this one because Greenland is almost never on a map so you can see it well. And to tilt the map this way and put it in the middle, you see the world in a new perspective.

>>151965691
>more radical than Stalin
are you seriously retarded? there was no one who fits that description in the USSR.
why would Russia need a more radical person in this time period anyway? Stalin fucking up should encourage destalinization even more

>>151962682
Post GrossGermaniums

>>151965716
take the gulf for exclusive oil drilling rights

>>151965726
also you need to get into game and restart it once to fix checksum

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>>151965572
3.04 patch, to know if you have it, see if you have this in the decisions tab

>>151965696
>>151965728
Just downloaded it fags
I am ready, my sum is SCOF

>>151965863
Yes, more radical. I'll have to come up with a random name.

>>151966025
>he completely disregarded what I said about it not being realistic
worse than Grandi desu

How can i annex United Baltic duchy in hpm.

I took lativa and estland and formed baltic duchy as prussia. They have north german as main culture, but when I become North germany and later Germany, they are still a puppet.

>>151966025
Take someone from Stalin's government and then just say he become more radical.

Like Mosley in Kaiserreich :^)

>>151966025
What about Mao

when does it start my wonderful friend?

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>>151966025
Reed James is pretty radical

>>151966119
Justify a CB to conquer them

>>151965716
Take everythIng you drew plus Louisiana, Arkansas, and the rest of Oklahoma

>>151965716
Just take yellow, every other expanion should be in the US's direction

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>>151966094
Lad, It's obviously not that realistic, but I want to give the player 2 choices at the start of the game, they can pick to focus on taking back Russia, or focus on helping revolutions all around the world. Then after Stalin dies, they can pick if they want to go even more radical with either one of those.

>>151966214
What about Him?

>>151966231
:^)

>>151966402
>tfw based tripfag uses the meme you made

feels good desu

>>151966402
>Soviet Union in control of only lots of trees and snow
>exporting "the revolution"
WEW

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never again steamgroup but we SHOULD find a way or procedure for efficiently organizing MP itt

>>151966220
s-soon

just give me 5 mins lad loading v2 up now

may have had a bit of checksum trouble desu

>>151966532
>Siberia is not filled with resources

>>151966402
Have the leaders name turn into big brother after a certain number of social reforms or through event chains

>>151964594
>Starting in 1948, Abakumov initiated several investigations against these leaders, which culminated with the arrest in November 1951 of Rudolf Slánský, Bedřich Geminder, and others in Czechoslovakia. These men were generally accused of Zionism and cosmopolitanism, but, more specifically, of providing weapons to Israel. Beria was deeply disturbed by these charges, as large amounts of Czech arms had been sold to Israel on his direct orders.

>Jew in charge of USSR

>>151966608
It really isn't lad, at least what is there can't be extracted and refined without a lot of recources

>>151966556
>Greekposter reveals his true self
fag

>>151966608
>soldiers eat crude oil and coal

>>151966556
FAKE

>>151966780
Jews are white though.
http://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html

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I.P: 109.153.123.77

Checksum: (SCOF)

THE GODS HAVE BLESSED US WITH A GAME

If you get VCJN checksum like I did desu, just go into V2 > Properties > Betas and select the 3.04 beta.

SERVER IS HOSTED JOIN UP

>>151966556
got to steam - betas - select 3.0.4 - start up game with hpm - there you have it

>>151966823
>>151966792
B-b-but muh KGB, muh global revolution

I don't know, I really don't think It matters too much, the Soviets need something to do, and the Idea that Chinks and Indians could get influenced to be gommie to stop Imerialism isn't that far fetched, islamic gommunism can be a thing, and Latin America is pretty socialist IRL, so they only need a bit of guidance, and the US is a democracy, so they could be influenced pretty easily, or filled with gommie third world immigrants

>>151962894
its not big enough to see anything

So im finishing up a game of EU4 were I was the byzantine empire. I reconquered to Egypt to Slovenia got most of India and about 3/4s of the new world and im wondering. What would it mean to be Roman in the 19th century? With so many people in my game claiming to be roman I wonder if my empire would hold. Would people call themselves roman and make the empire nationalist focused or would people still call themselves Turkish or Greek. Would the idea stretch past Europe and the middle east? Would Indians call themselves romans? What about the new world ones?

>>151967126
You don't really get it HMG. A defeated (more like castrated USSR) like in your timeline would prove to the world that Communism is a big failure. What would likely happen instead would be a mixture of Nationalist, Reactionary, facist and NatSoc movements would take the place of the communist ones which happened IOTL. What would be somewhat cool in the mod is to implement events where Pan-Hispanic nationalists start gaining in Latin America, and it's the job of the American player to prepare/prevent the rise of a Nazi-allied South American superpower. Also, I heavily doubt the USSR would survive a defeat, especially its leadership

>>151967823
who gives a shit, just blob man.

>>151967838
Ok, I'll think about it and I'll see what other anons think, maybe I'll make it a bit more random, or I'll give the player a choice if they want communism still be strong, I don't know.

>>151968003
Thats what rulers did IRL.

>>151967316
I can see "Mackenzie" which is kinda cool since I recently finished watching Outlander
>>151967823
Depends on how much Roman nationalism is pushed. Also if your empire is that large and prosperous is see more Roman nationalists than foreign ones

>>151967823
It would depend on how good you were at administering and how hard you tried to assimilate instead of keeping auxiliaries.
At any rate it's unlikely they'd consider themselves completely Roman, instead you'd have shit like "Roman Indian", "Roman Egyptian", "Roman American" and shit like that. They'd be Roman first, of course, but they'd definitely have underlying identities. This would take back seat...as long as your empire remains stable and prosperous. If it doesn't, well, see WRE for more details on that.

>>151962313
Actually I think they should introduce Migration Era as the earliest start date for CK2 instead of making it a new game altogether. CK2 is already fucked and not really historically accurate even for Paradox standards and the beauty of Migration era is that it would be like custom game set up but much better! You could dynamically lead you tribe and draw the future borders of Europe and determine which tribe ended up where but all that in dynamic and, if they do their job right, realistic way.

It would be like EU4 random setup but not completely retarded and it would be a joy to actually export and play later on (fully Celtic Britain or Eastern Germanics fully killing and assimilating all Slavs or Slavs breaking through and settling on the territory of Germany or Hungarians that never made it into Central Europe or even Roman Empire that survived reduced to just Italy but survived etc etc) and the player would be able to control it. It would be brilliant.

>>151968054
Think about what? The fascist Hispanic superstate?

>>151968337
No, Communism. I think there should be a path to defeating the Axis, and that should be one of them. But I don't know, I'll see.

>>151968267
There'll be faggots whining about WRE being underpowered.

>>151968515
Why don't you like the nazi South America idea?

>>151968515
>Leftism is a path to defeating leftism
lad...

>>151962894
Got one of Poland/commonwealth? That would be badass.
>>151968265
In my game all my main land from Serbia to Egypt is stated and my core empire. Parts of India are culturally the same and the entire subcontinent is orthodox. The empire is stable. Still im kinda wondering how it would go especially given how the empire at this point is going on like 2.5k years old with Europe split between the French and Bohemians. World feels on the brink and im the third man everyone wants as an ally but I spend most of my time looking at India and Persia. Fuck I cant wait for the future when the games make new events based on the world around it.

>try when the world stopped making sense
>pretty much every culture other than roman is ctrl + v european and arab portraits
>one or two dynasty names per culture
in the bin it goes

>>151968906
what game

>>151969013
HOI 4 dumbass

>>151968769
(You)

>>151969046
thank

>>151968575
>WRE being underpowered.
That would be the point, though. You shouldn't be able to win as WRE the best you should be able to do is controlled collapse to ensure at least Italy and maybe little bit beyond (the last remnant of the WRE actually lived for few more decades after the collapse in what is today Croatia and Bosnia) and not some "oh we're going to beat back the barbarians and retake the entire empire!" nonsense.

>>151967838
That's a huge list of assumptions, it doesn't prove anything on it's own and the way that they lose (the only possible way is for the Germans to capture stalin but we're ignoring this) plays a big part.

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>>151968637
Yeah sure, why not, but only if the Soviets dont interfere before I started posting i was actually thinking of having the decision to integrate Latin America as the Latin Union, but I don't know how memey that Is. I'm doing the Soviet stuff now though, so not yet.

Also r8 my names.

>>151969208
This is the fucking Paradox fanbase we're on about.

Anyone have some better battle sounds for Vic II? The base game one is awful

>>151969354
Cool, thanks. Names look good too Latin Union is much too memey
>>151969345
>the way that they lose (the only possible way is for the Germans to capture stalin but we're ignoring this)
No, if the war was going too poorly (Moscow, and Leningrad fell) Soviet leadership would either kill/hand over Stalin for peace with Germany as Long as it meant they could maintain power in their rump state (wait a minute, thanks lad, this makes a lot more sense for keeping the SU around)

>>151967108
Rehosting due to Prussia crashing.

wew

>>151970024
cobra ruins everything

>>151970009
I know a Latin Union is pretty memey, but If Germans can have muh super Aryan übermensch then I think the Latins could also go like "wait, we wuz romans n shit, we need to fuck the Germans", If the Axis wins the Cold War/WW3

>>151970140
Latins are descendants of nordic germanic aryans tho

>tfw wanna play with gsg buddies
>tfw a filthy pirate

>>151970140
Waaait a minute. What's this "Latin Union" you're talking about? I thought your mod was centered around what the Nazi's had in mind after subduing the Soviets/Brits: a colossal "clash of titans" between Germany and the United States

>>151970637
Hey, Japan also exists, never forget about Japan

Yeah but if you want to play Italy or France, and you happen to win the Cold War/WW3, that's the way you can fight back Germany.

crashed

>>151970009
>>151970140
Wait, what? Germans really really really hated two countries in world war 2 - Poland and Soviet Union. Hell, to say they hated them was an understatement, they never even referred to Poland as Poland after the September 1939 campaign for the rest of the war. And Hitler seriously wanted to ally with US and the UK against SU.

There's no fucking way in all seven hells he was ever going to let either of those states live, even in rump form. They would be erased, most of the populace would be genocided and the rest enslaved to serve the German masters and it would be colonized and settled by the Germans and called something else.

Also if the Leningrad-Moscow-Stalingrad line fell the Soviet leadership would relocate further east to Siberia and continue the fight against the fascists. How successful would they be? I think quite successful in their relocation because it was extremely well known by 1942/3 that Germans wanted to murder or enslave all Russians.

>>151970870
Rehosting senpai

>>151970428
We're all filthy pirates here, como join us now that we're rehosting

>>151970956
In this timeline, the Germans were much more efficient at actually mass producing weapons, and there was less infighting in the leadership and all of that, and Hitler let the generals do what they tought was better. Also, the US didn't help the Soviets or the Brits, so it was also easier for the Germans. Obviously invading Siberia would be too hard, so they just tried to get peace with the Soviets. And yes, the Germans can gass everything in Poland and Russia if the player chooses to do so.

>>151971309
yea, you can play as funland

>>151971349
Efficiency isn't the problem, it's just it was an impossible invasion and it always would have been, without literal magic.

>>151971517
B-b-but slavs are sub-human anon how can you say that? I think that without american lend lease, better german leadership, and a little bit of luck, they could have won, if they let the soviets live in Siberia, but yeah, it would have been pretty impossible IRL, that's why this is a meme mod and not HPM

What can be the name for the radical "National Bolshevism"

>>151971349
I don't think you quite get it, Hitler wanted to do to Slavs what Americans did to indians but even more totally - completely genocide them, take their land, settle it with German colonists and make it as if no one besides Germans ever lived there.

>>151971517
Not really, Nazis came very close to actually winning the war even without making sure to destroy Britain first. And they could have made the situation even better for example by allying with China instead of Japan or with not allying with anyone in the Middle East since absolutely nothing came out of that parternship or actually working together against the Soviet Union (if Japan held off on China and/or launched even a shitty invasion of SU from the east that could have very well been the end for the USSR).

>>151971734
forgot the ebin flag AFPG made, the """"National Bolshevism"""" meme is supposed to fully focus the nation on taking back Russia, giving them crazy nativist policies, some factory efficiency, mobilization bonuses, and probably some meme revenge genocides.

>>151971734
It's still just stalinism nothing you say will make that not true. Listen to the people who actually know something about communist systems dammit man!

>>151971734
Super Radical National Bolshevism

>>151971734
Are you going to simulate the Vietnam War/Korean War?

>>151965080
>More radical
If you mean in the Commie sense, probably none, although Zhukov would probably be the most decent for militarizing the USSR.

Beria would be good for a Right wing shift.

Malenkov would be Stalin lite, not as autocratic but would still try to continue the cult of personality and his policies.

Khrushchev we all already know how he was.

>>151971841
>Nazis came very close to actually winning the war even without making sure to destroy Britain first.

No, The Russians were happy to drop moscow and go further east, the germans would never have the ability to maintain those lines.They'd have crumbled eventually no matter what happens.

>>151971734
Revanchist Bolshevism?

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>>151971875
>>151971734
And I literally forgot it again. Holy shit, I'll go get some coffee

>>151971841
Yes, you can gas Russians in this mod. It's one of the first things i made lad.

>>151971953
I don't know

>>151971892
Ok, but it needs a meme name.

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>>151971349
>HitlerMod
What's your mod about, lad? Cold War Nazi Germany memes?

>>151972030
Stalin refused to leave Moscow, there was a chance for Germans to catch him there.

Who knows what would happen then. Zhukov probably wasnt that influential to take the lead and rest of high command was systematically bullied into submission by Stalin.

>>151970839
Sounds good, but does the Latin meme come up if you're playing Germany?
>>151970956
After the Leningrad-Moscow-Stalingrad line fell it would be over, the Soviets would have nearly nothing left. And no, Hitler did not want to eradicate the Slavs, however he did want "muh lebensraum"

>>151972030
>No, The Russians were happy to drop moscow and go further east, the germans would never have the ability to maintain those lines.They'd have crumbled eventually no matter what happens.
Situation wasn't and wouldn't exactly be peachy on the Soviet side either. Soviet's unlimited manpower was a meme, by 1943 they had lost so many men they were running short and they stopped stupid executions and suicidal tactics and tried to be more conservative with their manpower. Also losing European Russia would mean losing all the manpower, resources, infrastructure and industry that was there. Yes, they could transport industry east but it's not like it'd be guaranteed they could transport anything, large percentage of the industry would probably fall in German's hands.

Plus the morale damage of losing the heartland and the homeland combined with manpower damage... I mean they could pull a Long march out of Stalin's hairy Georgian ass but even then. The nazis wouldn't have to immediately attack they could prepare a proper offensive, wait for spring and all that (most of the mud is in the west by the time you're at Moscow that problem is solved).

>>151972293
>Stalin refused to leave Moscow, there was a chance for Germans to catch him there.

Only if they somehow storm the city in less than one day, and that's complicated since basically most of the Red Army was in Moscow or the surrounding area and the streets were full of barricades and anti tank traps.

Hell, just look at how long it took the Germans to push the undermanned and unprepared Soviets in Stalingrad into a small corner in the shore of the Volga(from which they counter-attacked and crushed them).

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>>151972364
> Hitler did not want to eradicate the Slavs,
He actually did, either enslaved, deport east of the Urals or outright kill all Slavs in the new German Lebensraum.

>>151971517
>it's just it was an impossible invasion and it always would have been, without literal magic.
>M-muh glorious Commisars!
>b-but my babushka killed 50 Germans with her sniper ;_;
Hello Ivan
>>151971734
>but yeah, it would have been pretty impossible IRL
The three reasons you gave aren't really implausible at all, so no it wants to "pretty impossible"

>start up CKII
>play first time, half-assedly complete tutorial
>pick the small county of Schwyz, my liege is the Duke of Swabia
>kill one of my brothers, so that if I then kill my father I would become the Duke of Swabia myself
>cant kill my father because everyone hates me and I won't get backers
>put maximum speed and understand absolutely nothing of the dozen of events popping up
>dad eventually actually becomes the king of the Holy Roman Empire
>dies
>I am now the king of the HRE and still have no idea what has been going on

fugggg...?

>>151972494
>most of the Red Army was in Moscow or the surrounding area and the streets were full of barricades and anti tank traps.
Precisely. And if Germans took Moscow they would have gutted the Red Army. What would Soviet leadership make an army out of then, Siberian peasants that were all either gulag victims from the prosecutions in the 30s or fucking Mongols that gave no shits for the Soviet Union?

>>151972559
Sweden no!

>>151972364
>And no, Hitler did not want to eradicate the Slavs, however he did want "muh lebensraum"
Nope. Majority of Slavs were to be killed and the rest enslaved and either made a slave race or killed off. I think initially, if they won, in the heat of zealotry after the victory they'd want to kill all the ubermensch but later they'd realize they actually need labor force to work the 50x expanded German Reich.

>>151972681
> Precisely. And if Germans took Moscow they would have gutted the Red Army.
Good luck pushing the Commies then they outnumber you 3 to 1, you're low on ammo and fuel, your tanks are beginning to break down because they get stuck in the Russian mud and the Russians are as determined as ever to protect their capital.

>>151972494
Well im just saying.
There is really no other way Barbarossa would succeed anyway, they had to capture him then and there.
>>151972623
Maaate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3zFG14CqB8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_3R-Rkn_98

>>151972127
Yes, with genocide, meme unions and shit. I'll try to give it a lot of replayability
>>151971974
>Beria would be good for a Right wing shift.
I kind of like the sound of that but this >>151965691 is one of the first things i saw on wikipedia, care to explain a little bit?

Pleeease. I need a proper name for a meme ideology.

>>151972863
>Russian mud a
Russian mud is all before Moscow. If you've reached Moscow you've outrun the mud.

>>151972881
>There is really no other way Barbarossa would succeed anyway, they had to capture him then and there.
No, if the Italians hadn't fucked up the invasion of Greece Barbarossa wouldn't have been delayed by months and wouldn't have run into mud at crucial moments.

>>151972030
>Russians were happy to drop moscow
Not what history shows
>go further east
You're overestimating the Red Army's capabilities in 1941, if Leningrad-Moscow-Stalingrad fell, the Red Army wouldn't even be an organized fighting force anymore

>>151972815
>kill all the ubermensch
kill all the *Untermensch

>>151973083
>linked long explanation with information and numbers why earlier invasion wouldnt make a difference

>No, if the Italians hadn't fucked up the invasion of Greece Barbarossa wouldn't have been delayed by months and wouldn't have run into mud at crucial moments

Think we diverged a bit here laddie

>>151972881
That's why Barbarossa was such a shitty idea, they picked up a fight with a nation that was superior in almost everything except for the officer corps and small unit tactics.

>>151973052
Beria was the leader of the NKVD, he wasn't "electable" because he was a fucking asshole and a sneaky bastard, nobody trusted him.

But with the government collapsing he could pull up a few strings and take over.

>>151973083
Nope, you outran the Byelorussian marshes but the Autumn and Spring mud is gonna fuck up your trucks, tanks and horses.

There is a reason why the Russians even had a damn name for it, Rasputitsa.

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>>151973209
>Not what history shows
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_of_Moscow_(1812)

>>151973209
t. Hitler

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How should I handle the Soviets losing communism, if the player chooses pic related?

>>151973338
>they picked up a fight with a nation that was superior in almost everything except for the officer corps and small unit tactics.
lad, you've fallen for commie propaganda. Failure of the invasion of Barbarossa was mostly due to tactical errors made by Hitler not by some superiority of barely industrialized barely literate Soviet Union.

>>151973423
>Stalin is literally the general that participated in Napoleonic wars

What the fuck? Why is that even an argument.

>>151973423
Eh, at that time Moscow wasn't the capital and it wasn't the main hub of the rail system of the country.

Even then, I still doubt the Soviets would have surrendered or stopped fighting if Moscow fell(which is already a titanic task by itself).

Just look at what happened in Leningrad, Stalin grad and Smolensk, hell, they could have even held Kiev for a lot longer and taking out a lot more Germans if it wasn't because the German Armored Corps launched a surprise attack from the north.

>>151973541
If the soviets lose communism, there should be no soviets.

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>tfw no healthy German aryan boobs fed exclusively on German milk and cheese

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>>151973608
> lad, you've fallen for commie propaganda. Failure of the invasion of Barbarossa was mostly due to tactical errors made by Hitler not by some superiority of barely industrialized barely literate Soviet Union.

Pic related, ignore the Stalin apologism though.

And by the time WW2 began the Soviet Union was more literate than France.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Likbez

>>151973686
wew, I mean if there should be a revolution of if they would bring back the tsar, or if i should make an event changing them to a democracy/presidential dictatorship

Tbh, I don't really want to make another tag just for a one sided civil war.

>>151973338
Indeed, Beria was probably best choice for post Stalin USSR that got whooped.
You either give power to a sadistic Stalinist purger or well...if nobody is shit scared of the leader whole system would topple down under the strain of loss.
>>151973608
It shows Russians were quite keen into doing scorched earth tactic to big cities. USSR could even propaganda the sacking whole Moscow based on Napoleonic fire.
>>151973637
True.
If i do recall even during Napoleonic Wars Moscow was fucking huge city. Its like saying dunno...like Vienna wasnt important to Nazi Germany or something.

>>151973860
Eh, just make the Soviet Union stick around, but force it to pick the Nationalism path.

>>151974038
So, just turn them into Strasserists? via ai_chance and flags for events?

With what techs/dates does the Establish protectorate casus belli drop in infamy price?

>>151974154
Nope, Strasserism is still National Socialism.

Just force them through a flag to pick the Soviet/Russian Nationalism Path.

>>151974154
That could be one of the options, as in nationalistic socialism, other option would be turning them into a social democracy.

>>151974154
will Russia/Poland still be states or colonies?

>>151974357
>>151974154
Why not just turn them into modern day Sweden

>>151974154
Why not name it....Populist Bolshevism?

>>151974298
pls rply

>>151974536
But there's no white minority in Russia...

>>151974664
There won't be in Sweden for long either.

>>151974298
Berlin Conference, with the Nationalism and Imperialism tech, I think.

>>151974385
Poland starts as a puppet and European Russia starts as RKMs, the player gets an event of what they want to do at the start of the game. The 3 choices are:
Genocide basically everyone in the East (minus latvians and estonians, probably). This will trigger genocide events in the RKMs and Poland, and they will later get annexed. This is the long term option.
Genocide the Poles and integrate the Baltics, and establish small, Natsoc, collaborationist governments in Russia. This will (not done yet) trigger some events that will kill gommies, and you get to gas the Poles and annex the Balts later. This is the medium term option.
Lastly, you can choose to establish bigger, actually independant allies, that won't genocide any Russians, and you can gas and annex the Poles, and then focus on winning the Cold War/WW3. This is the short term option.

>>151974536
wew
>>151974590
That's a decent name. I think i'll give them 3 options, one to go more right wing (sort of strasserism, i guess, maybe), one to go more radical, but still gommie, and focus on taking back russia, and another one for internationalism, global revolution and meme unions.

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>>151962682

>>151974910
There should be migration modifiers to Soviet Siberia if the players chooses to genocide someone, to simulate people crossing the frontiers to save their hides.

Vote on the meme name.
http://poal.me/lewgm5
http://poal.me/lewgm5
http://poal.me/lewgm5

>>151974910
is there some kind of repopulation decision
that gives you immigration bonus for the nearly emty polish land?

>>151974910
> minus latvians and estonians

Only Estonians and Czechs, and even then not all of them, just some which were to be Germanized.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost#Phases_of_the_plan_and_its_implementation

The Wikipedia table should prove useful.

>>151975135
I will probably add that later, i tried to add something like that but I don't really know how the immigration and emmigration things work on pop_types, I'll ask HPM about it when he's here

>>151975186
Yes, you get immigration bonuses on all Polish cores, same for the RKMs, when you annex them, i'll probably add extra modifiers for cities or places like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamo%C5%9B%C4%87

>>151975153
Khozovism is the one that makes the most sense.
>National Bolshevism
It's too similar to national socialism, it wouldn't be chosen.
>Populist Bolshevism
Bolshevism is populist in itself
>Populist communism
The same
>Radical Communism
There are no degrees of communism, something is either communist or not.

>>151975153
Don't have Stalin be in power at the start. If he lost he'd be dead or exiled somewhere by now.

>>151975478
>exiled somewhere
Yes, to Siberia :^) Then who could I have, I thin it's fine to have Stalin, he'll die later anyways.

>>151974910
>>151975325
Those who are left are to be either enslaved or Germanized(if found to be Aryan enough).

>>151975625
>Enslaved
How the fuck do you want me to do that you fucking faggot
>Germanized
Yeah, the RKMs get a bit of assimilation bonuses when they've already killed a bunch of people.

>>151975592
Molotov maybe.

>>151975592
Stalin would have killed himself in Moscow in the case of losing the war, either that or he would have been killed by his own people a la Mussolini.

>>151975743
> How the fuck do you want me to do that you fucking faggot

Export the HPM serf pop?

If you can't really do it then just make the Germans deport or kill them as well.

>>151975743
Slave pops you baka

is that Vicky HPM MP game still up?

>>151975803
>>151975827
Ok, fuck it maybe I'll do that later, but for now having Stalin is fine, I don't want to remake the events, I want to actually make some progress. I need to release this some day, and I can't do it if I'm changing the same thing 15 times in a day

>>151975880
>>151975974
I don't know, It's not that important, slaves are kind of useless anyways, maybe I can make them work in factories

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>>151967108
Rehosting.

>>151976010
Yep. Year 1844.

>>151976010
Yeah, it's rehosting now

>>151976010
Yes, latest version of HPM, IP 109.153.123.77

Join now before we start again

>>151976057
Don't change Stalin, keeping him is fine since the premise of the mod itself is a fucking meme anyway.

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XDDDD

Oh, I was looking some of the genocide events (you get 3 decreasing non accepted pops, and increasing militancy, and the last one is SUPPOSED to assimilate whoever is left and add some pop growth bonuses, but assimilate = yes doesn't seem to work, even though it's in the wiki, does anyone know why this is? Is there ANY way to assimilate pops by event without using province modifiers? (wich i'm using anyways)

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What did I do wrong here that would cause this?

AFPG are you here yet?
When do you come back from university?

>>151976941
You probably forgot a "{" or "}" don't know their name somewhere, check your decision closely or run the validator.

>>151976958
Dude, take your gay shit away from this general.

>>151977101
HitlerLad I like you, while you're a freaking tripfag at least you're open to suggestions and friendly.

Please don't be Steamgruppe.

>>151977241
wew, i just need some flags lad

bigot

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>>151965087
That would actually be really good for hiding a giant futa dick.

>>151974910
Hitlermod guy, you're memeing as fuck right now. Your mod is gonna end up like Pavlos.

>>151978480
I never played that mod, what's wrong with it?

>want to form a nice comfy Christian nation in central Asia
>CK2 is so shit and there is literally no history to it

>>151965863
>>151966119
Actually, Stalin presented himself in party politics as a moderate candidate between the party right (Bukharin) and the party left (Trotsky). So it's totally realistic to have a more "radical" leader.

Is AARnon around? I would need something as a title of the Jerusalem AAR

>>151978810
Well, it's CK2, so you pretty much create history there.

>>/qa/629002
>>/qa/629002
>>/qa/629002
>>/qa/629002
>>/qa/629002
>>/qa/629002
>>/qa/629002

>>151979294
Well done, faggot

>>>/qa/629002

>>151972623
t. gruica

>>151978948
the le feminist satanism aar xD

>>>/qa/629002
>>>/qa/629002
>>>/qa/629002
>>>/qa/629002
>>>/qa/629002

>>151979506
>>151979294
This sound like an open invitation to shitpost, lads. Go forth and conquer and all that jazz.

>>151978619
I hope someone has some pics but it has events like Greece forming a "hellenic austria-hungary". Proving once again that even a nation can be a mary sue.

>>151979602
/qa/ is a shit board anyway

what is the biggest meme mod in the history of GS

>>151978930

meant for >>151965863 and >>151966025

>>151979667
wew, the mod only has a few memes, I'll ask here before adding anything too memey desu.

>>151979750
VisegradMod

>>151979750
HPM

>>151979750
GSG itself.

>>151979712
t. butthurt bronyfag that spams gr15 removals

>>151979975
what is gr15?

>>151979975
/qa/ is called the butthurt board for a reason you know

>>151979750
Napoopan

>>151979863
>VisegradMod
Did anything ever happen out of that?

>>151979750
I mean HPM. Don't get me wrong, I like it but it is also a giant meme.

>>151980062
t. newfag

>>151980143
seriously though, I'm curious

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>>151978480
>10000 years

Fucking Pavlosmod

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What are the actual perfect borders, lads?

>>151980641
Post editable map and I'll show you.

How the fuck do you set the target state for CBs when you script wars?

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>>151980641
>Free City of Wien
>doesn't have Wien

>>151981261
CB {

initial_trigger = some flag shit;

target = [state in however it's defined in game files]

}

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>>151981513
you mean this?

I'm trying different words atm

>>151981873
Yes. if the CHI_xxxx crap are provinces rather than states (though they should be states) look up state codes in the game files and try placing them there.

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>>151982135
yes, they're states

>>151982275
Well then that's that.

Have you guys every played in India? I feel it's bit easy and kinda boring. Not that many realms to interact with as well. You may get like 3-5 but as Europe you get england, scotland, ERE, HRE, the Spanish lords, etc. That'd really my main problem lack of interaction with other realms.

Thoughts?

>>151982832
get the suez canal mod

>>151981462
You should probably pay more attention to the balkans and ex-byzantine territory.

>>151982832
India is boring and unnecessary and only slows down the game. And apparently there are fucking reincarnation events possible to Hindu characters because CK2 wasn't enough of a meme game already.

Post music to form Germany to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Diu2N8TGKA

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Really makes you think

>>151982135
>>151982376
Hmm. Doesn't really work, I tried a few things, do you have any other ideas? Would the AI just add the CBs on it's own (since the Chinas already have cores on China)? I think I'll just ask HPM when he's back tbqhwy senpaitachi

>>151984110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkaZujSr6DM

>>151984110
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iqT0iFZifgw

>>151984110
>>151984391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AlEvy0fJto

>>151984391
Anyways, I'll go eat something. I'll be back in a few minutes.

>>151983156
What is it about?

>>151983351
That's the first I heard of it. Tried looking up videos on YouTube but nothing but I found the code for it. So it does exist. Playing from 769 becuase I wanted to try out the start date as well and I hate it. Takes forever to set first child inheritance law. Gavelkind a shit but am glad I am not in europe God what a cluster fuck

>>151984480
>implying it takes 10 hours to for grossgermaniums

heh pleb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm5GyjZGi9o

>>151984501
Are yu going to add in any cool shit to do with the space race? Too often overlooked in modern day shit IMO.

>>151984534
>That's the first I heard of it. Tried looking up videos on YouTub
I didn't know it existed either until the most recent CK2 dev diary

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-dev-diary-19-the-end-is-nigh.963090/
>As well as 2.6 making the Indian Reincarnation events work slightly better, RD includes a rare Reincarnation event which anyone can get, provided they have Fantasy Content turned on.

>>151984228
Poor Basques

>>151984790
>Basques
Screw Basques, bastards killed Roland.

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>>151984110
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3OdGqclnF4

>>151984608
>not listening to fukkireta for the whole 10 hours
I want newfag a to lurk before posting

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Do you agree that Rhodes was a true gsg player and likely a shitposter at his local forum?

>>151985025
>being a dirty gommie
>allowing gommies to unite Germany

as if

Romania or Argentina in HOI4?

>no meme responses please

>>151984680
>yu
Yes, but It's not really a priotity at all now, I'll just use what NWO has, I might change it later on.

>>151985350
Argentina. Turn communist and annex all of Uruguay, Chile and Brazil to form the great Southern Communist Union.

>>151976096
what time tomorrow is the next MP

>>151986052
this

>>151986052
Same time? We need a steamgroup to sort this out

>>151986189
Fuck off back to your discord

>>151986189
make a skype group or something, but please no steam group

>>151986376
t.powell
>>151986189
Fuck off back to your steamgroup

>>151986189
Fuck off Cobrah

>>151986189
Fuck off reed

>>151986505
>>151986189
I can make a discord and delete it after we are done

>>151986189
>Like we need more steam group shitters fucking up the thread

Leave to Reddit and never come back

>>151986189
Just set a date and a time you fucking retard

>>151986975
t. Carrot

>>151986376
>skype group
Why not discord group?

>>151986975
japan USA team is white and based

>>151986052
Alright for anyone in the recent Vic2 MP Game
I made a discord
https://discord.gg/CfkXR

>>151983156
Am a idiot that's pretty cool. But I was more talking about playing as a Raj rather then going there. >>151984739
What's this fantasy content?

>>151987143
Mate, literally 30% of my pops are Afro-American.

Give me some interesting things to do in EU4.

Some easy but entertaining goals and countries.

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> naval invasion of Greece, took Peloponnese and have to race to Thrace to help an ally there, but first must secure Athens
> the city is heavily fortified, strategic bombardment by a half thousand jet strategic bombers does absolutely nothing (by the way, is this a bug or am I doing something wrong? and how the hell did I get so many bombers, anyway? I certainly don't remember ordering even forty, much less forty dozen)
> have a few atomic bombs, decide to test them
> there are only four inferior infantry divisions guarding Athens, and they are inferior tech-wise
> they get the bomb
> and survive
> wat
> drop another bomb on them
> see now that their force dropped to some 5-15%
> they replenish most of it back in the few hours it takes for the next bomb to drop
> they never actually lose all of their force
> there are absolutely no other effects other than structural damage to buildings that fully recovers in a week
w h a t
t h e
f u ck

>>151987340
Nice meme,did you get it in funny junk?

>>151987816
Create Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere.
As Korea.

>>151988226
lol you saw it too?

>>151988564
>Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere.
What is that?

>>151988564
>>151987816
Why is EU4 so shit at simulating East Asia? Is it because East Asian societies were extremely stable and slow moving societies that also almost never changed their external borders but only their internal regimes that require very deep and interesting tall gameplay to make interesting and EU4 is shit at tall gameplay?

Basically, what I'm saying is, East Asia focused gsg when?

>>151988841
大東亜共栄圏。

>>151988841
>What is that?
>>./out/

>>151988916
> Why is EU4 so shit at simulating East Asia?
Because Europeans became the most perfect people in the world since 1399 and everyone else was stupid and boring then and remains so now.

t. Johan

>>151988841
>大東亜共栄圏
>大東亜共栄圏(だいとうあきょうえいけん、Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere)は、欧米諸国(特に大英帝国・アメリカ合衆国)の植民地支配から東アジア・東南アジアを解放し、東アジア・東南アジアに日本を盟主とする共存共栄の新たな国際秩序建設を目指した、第二次世界大戦における日本の構想である。

>>151988947
>>151988564
>As Korea

I said easy...

Ok, I'm pretty tired now, I'll see if I can wake up early tomorrow to keep working on this, if you see AFPG, ask him for a Strasserist Soviet Union flag, or at least A more right wing socialist USSR, maybe... hmm... a little bit nationalistic, i wonder what ideology that could be? :^) Good night /gsg/