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/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #339

Choika Edition

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The following players will have a boosted rate during the following weekend(s):

Aug. 12th - Aug. 13th: Bora, MX82 Vann, Saramir, Elua, Verister, Jin, Duran

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>>151899007
>tfw first thread made and you fuck up
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Sharr is B A L A N C E D
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Looking for like 6 more referrals.
Ign:Lcmex
Thank you in advance
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best assist
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>>151899007
>choika
Golden
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>>151899678
i got you senpai
reminder to always falseflag that sharr is balanced
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I need more of this
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>>151899434
Shhh anon.
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>>151899835
jkun pls stop defiling this thread
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>>151899158
It's alright anon, happens to the best of us.
Ill give you a headpat
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still on 40 referrals ,i need some help
Ign: Grandmg
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>>151900118
T-thanks senpai
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Aside from spending dickstones for ST, is PoME still the best unique for Jin?
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>>151900169
got you too senpai
reminder to thank /ssg/'s lord and savior jakenkun
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>>151900390
Star's Tear and Dense Magma look good too
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>>151900169
i'll get you in a few hours, i have 5 referrals left to give before i fuck off from this event forever
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>>151900169
>still on 41 referrals
>don't care anymore
Fuck you BB, this is by far the worst event ever.
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>having trouble against Angela
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>>151900612
Anyone can do it with the 2 most broken players in the game.
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>>151900610
Where did you get this?
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>>151900169
Cute Milky. I already got you a few days ago though senpai good luck
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>>151900734
I dont use Silk or vonchi though
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>>151900169
To celebrate my first thread
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>>151900612
>milky
>elaine
Literally, anyone can do that with those two there.
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>>151900889
then dont complain about angela
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>>151900789
I said two most broken units in the game you retarded maple syrup tim hortons moose faggot.
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>>151900531
>send out my auto referral the moment the event resets
>get like 30 referrals a day

I finished this event last week.
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>>151900953
>milky and elaine allow people to win easily
>d-don't complain on angela!
Not everyone use those two cancers, retard.
But thanks for admitting they are broken.
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>>151900963
I know, thats why I said I dont use Vonchi or Silk
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>>151901054
>But thanks for admitting they are broken.
but he doesn't? he is the one always defending Milky and Elaine
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>>151900965
>did the same
>43 now
This is bullshit.
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Don't reply to the retard twink.
When will you learn
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>>151901054
if its so easy to beat angela with just milky/elaine then why dont you use them? you do want to win, dont you?
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>jkun was the retarded ardor apologist all along
Now I can see why there was no good arguments and only shitposting.
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>>151901180
We must bully him before he starts to violate someone else's waifu. You wouldn't want him to cum on Loli ravian next, would you?
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>>151901180
Thats the thing we never learn
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>>151901235
Nah people these days still use passers

LMAO
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>>151901235
>encouraging bandwagoning
>implying everyone has them maxed
>implying anyone has the resources to bandwagon
You are scum
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I'm trying to run Linmay and Elaine on front, which stones should I use?
SC Elaine, and EBM Linmay?
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I've been watching some leddit videos and I found this:
https://youtu.be/MeLy-3FJZZQ
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>>151901334
Not him, but he uses Nari he'd be better off with Linmay front for Inspiring and AB on pass/when hit
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>>151901751
but linmay is an ugly whore while Nari is a qt
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>>151901727
>Silk keeps stealing and breaking through
N E R F S W H E N
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>>151901910
As much as I hate WW, Linmay is the only one I will never call a slut. Unlike that Neraanon
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>700k gold
please show up in scout renee
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>>151902081
Go Away
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Any idea what is causing so much negative DR here?

No EBM or enemy debuffs active, besides that one speed debuff. It was a pretty basic milky way backline.
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>>151901727
>tfw Irru too busy sitting around jerking his twink dick to shoot
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>>151901727
>top bracket with 5 silk aces
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>>151902209
post the enemy team
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>>151902163
>no Renee
why is fred doing this
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Anyone think another round of Legend balancing will be coming soon?
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>>151902825

I can't match is long over.

BT with Khirel + someone using a speed debuff totem is all I recall.

I had a match just now with EBM opponent and beatrice was only at -5% DR. Beatrice is usually around 15% or so.

Periodically my line loses 30-40% DR. No totem effect shows up on screen and i cannot explain it. Suddenly a virgil with 550 dribble will hit Linmay for 2200 damage and I notice my DR is very, very negative.

I want to know what is causing it.
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>>151903020
>nerf Shu for Action bar shittalk
yeah sure
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Why is Shoe still shit?
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>>151903020
no just asslad balancing
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>>151903150
did you shoot at khirel?
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>>151902209

Is this an actual bug? What can cause negative DR without appearing onscreen as a debuff?
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>>151903375
>did you shoot at khirel?

Ahh fuck, thats it! I always think that applies on pen or steal attempt only. Khirel debuffs DR on shots as well.

Thank you.
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>she finally shows up
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The game is telling me to go Ardor/Light.
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>>151903823
2/3 of those are solid. Anael unfortunately isn't as good.
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>choi/meta/victoria midline
HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO PASS THAT SHIT?
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>>151903990
>using ww units
your fault wwcucks
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>>151904043
>ardor is so broken it's my fault i picked ww to play
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>>151900169
>10 more referrals than my club mate
Feels good and bad
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Light/Ardor cucks are the worst.
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>>151904043

>Implying any color besides dark can deal with Choi/meta/Victoria line
>implying Dale or any other dark midlien player could survive a TB victoria hit
>implying anyone ever runs a dark midline

There is no natural counter. Metatron is the only weak point. You need a better metatron to kill their metatron.
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>>151904282
>CG changed his ace to Milky a while abck to make it look like theres more Milky aces
whats your point?
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>>151904527
One of the loudest arguments ardor/light has against silk is the quantity of silk aces in galaxy
Considering that, it's a moot point. Another "argument" to the trash.
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So who is going to get the legendary GK?
Light or Dark?
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>>151904821
hopefully dark gets a male legend, if light got a legendary gk then isillia would probably never be buffed
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>>151904821
>None elements has both Legendary striker and Legendary GK
Dark
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>>151905020
If you think about it, in a very distant future every element should have 1 legendary for each role.
I don't see any problem.
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>>151904282
I think I'm going to delete my Milky after reading this. Wow.
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>>151905190
>Shu is ardor legendary CM
>forever
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>>151905020
Honestly, both may get it as there are a lot less legendary GKs than any other type.
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>>151905190
>an entire team of legends
>all on color
that's a scary thought.
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>tfw you love silla but she doesn't love you back
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Did you guys notice how WWcucks went from "Silk is balanced" to "Sharr is OP"
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>>151900412
>>151900448
>>151900759
>>151900880
Thanks!
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If anyone still needs some I have 10 unused referrals today.
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>>151905260
>>151906023
I think he was talking about type of player like assist or leader.
Which makes sense as it wouldn't be a good idea having two legendary GK in a same color.
Though by the end you may have a team with over half of on color legends which will be hell for non-whale players,
but anyway the game will die before we get to that moment so we shouldn't think deeply about it.
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>>151906023
who needs a team of legends when you have
>angela, better than jin
>sharr, on par with william/vonchi
>victoria, rapes everything not a duke/beth
>silk, adds CR more than anyone else
>elaine, stronger than baltheon/silla/luka combined into one
>virgil, literally better than 90% of existing legends
>alice, the big sister of serestia
ok I'm out of non legends to list.

Feel free to add more.
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>Hi anon! My daddy is at work. Maybe you should come by and play some video games with me?
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>>151906180
that's just how it is.
for everyone, not just ww.
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>>151906682
>>sharr, on par with william/vonchi
>>elaine, stronger than baltheon/silla/luka combined into one
ha
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>>151906801
you're right. sharr is stronger than william and vonchi.
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>>151906741
>accept offer
>orses constantly insulting me
>pajheet hogging the controller
>zibroi tries to rape me
I'd rather have Vitos fuck me.
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>>151907007
>>151906741
>Playing 2v2 Smash bros with Lynbell vs Jheet & Ravian
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>>151907007
>go to ravian's house
>balth won't shut up about his vow
>lynbell nowhere to be seen but you smell something nasty
>meta kills you
Just stick to ardor houses.
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>>151906241
>that expression
M-my dick
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>>151907296
>Playing 2v2 Smash bros with Lynbell vs Jheet & Ravian
>can't concentrate on the game because lynbell keeps playing around with your controller with her dirty socks
>she keeps looking at you as if waiting for a reaction
lynbell please i just want to win. stop distracting me.
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taking draw requests it probably won't be done today though
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>It's another 'You lost because Silk & Virgil used their actives' episode
When will this torture finally end. I preferred the William era compared to this shit.
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>>151907640
ardor houses would probably have the generic highschool harem scenes
sounds good though
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>>151907765
draw milky riding on a shanti like a deer
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>>151907765
Milky and Elaine bullying __Silk___
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>>151907765
Uriel as a hobo asking for change
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>>151907765
draw shanti riding on a milky like a whore
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>>151903940
Her totem is outdated.
When they nerfed the CAR on her totem they should have given her a third stat and buffed the value on her attack or the third stat.
I'm sure she's the only 5* left with a 25% totem that is only 2 stats.
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>>151907715
>she leans her body close to you
>her unbathed body stench overpowering you
>she whispers into your ear
>H-hey anon, want to watch my boy's love hentai with me?
WHAT DO YOU DO
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>one shot my way through colo
>suddenly colo 41
Despair
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> WW/Thunder (mostly) With Nute because fuck you
> Planned on working on faggot Kevin because retardation
> Saramir pops up in scouts, if I nab her I'd be ready to use her really fucking soon

Which route should I take, the really fucking useful faggot or the perfection that is Saramir?

>>151899678
I got you, fampai
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>>151907997
Continue playing and bust ravian's ass til she feels it in the morning.
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>>151908153
saramir is not that good.

kevin on the other hand can be used in any formation and useful on some pve contents where you use bell/duke/choi fronts.

do waifus.
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>>151907765
Vann x Karpila comic
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>>151908442
>not asslad
wew
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>>151908287
>

Sarmair had great potential to be good but her EE was a massive dissapoitnment. She could have become the WW equivalent to Alice but instead she became the WW equivalent to a lump of shit.
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>>151908574
I would have used Saramir if they changed her overwhelming. BB seems to hate stacking WW passives.

>jin - saramir = overwhelming 2
>linmay - meiran = inspiring 2
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>>151908287
>>151908574
You're actually complaining about Saramir's EE?
Maybe these other shitters are right and you WW fucks are truly the worst.
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>>151907007
are you a girl?
anyways, zibroi isn't like that
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>>151908287
I'm not too bothered but that faggot is too fucking good. She's not terrible passive wise, fucking magnificent tiddy wise.

I'll jerk off and think about it after
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>>151908761

>Gain a debuff totem that lowers the enemys pass effect in the position, but only after the enemy makes a pass and takes a shot on the net

In what world do you consider that a good EE upgrade?
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I made it to champs for the first time.
Praise me, /ssg/!
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>>151908883
Is it really wrong that we hope for once WW gets a game changing EE like Milky, Elaine, Victoria, Lynia, Lucian or Angela?

oh wait there is silk.
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>>151908791
this, zibroi is a romantic. He'll wine and dine you and kiss you (after you're both married and financially secure).
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>>151908883
>but only after the enemy makes a pass and takes a shot on the net
no one uses IC now so its not guaranteed they'll pull off an active pass with the first shot
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>>151908883
> IC nerf ;_;
> Not-OHKO meta
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>>151908761
I agree complaining about saramir ee when she's still good is stupid, I might have to put ww last on the ratings of worst fanbase
thunder > light > dark > shit > ww > ardor
Current thunderfags have been good lately while darkfags went down.
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>>151908883
That's only an issue if she's on the backline and you aren't faster than you're opponent. Considering WW has the fastest backline or any line in the game you're just complaining about being garbage.

It also procs if she's attaked so in the event that Saramir doesn't get to go before your opponent shoots she can still get the debuff on if she's in the line of fire and dies or if the ball moves off the line before her turn.
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>>151909091
>> shit > ww > ardor
but thats wrong
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>>151909026

it is still a defensive skill that activates after you take an unprotected ball to the face.

Putting her on the backline comes at an enormous cost. No one has room for her. They struggle to find room for Khirel or Miho as is.

Saramir had a chance to be developed as a midline player instead but got a pass debuff that is wasted there.
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>>151908963
Good job anon!
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>>151908963
post proof
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>>151909180
But it is, ww has always been under shit while ardor was at mid area but recently ardor plummet to last place because of how shit they were acting though in their defense it might be one person samefagging.
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>>151909091
> thunder not being terrible

As a ww/thunder fag that surprises me a little

> shit>ww

Sounds about right

> ww > Ardor

Why though?
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How high is this Baltheon reflex for an average pvp match?
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>>151909254
Post praise!
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>be monoww
>only lose to ravian and uriel
Nerfs when?
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>>151909514
grats anon
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>>151909128
>A longpasser that has issues when placed where they're supposed to be useful in.

This is some assbackwards shit. In no circumstance will the skill ever proc against the enemy frontline before any shot is taken.
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>>151909514
Congrats.
Did you actually win the tourny you were in to get into Champs?
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patch notes when
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>>151909514
Post team so we can take notes on your struggle to champs
grats anon, and lets hope I can get to mid-champs this season
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>>151909521
>losing to uriel
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>>151909687
That Australian whore takes 3 shots before my defender revives.
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>>151909569
Long passers are just bad in general in the game right now.
Asseklad is probably he best and she is a legend.
Verister is better in mid as is Lia and Light is laughable.
Saramir already has Overwhelming II which does plenty on it's own. Her 3rd passive was always just a supplement if she gets a turn.
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>>151909428

Usually you don't need to run more than one reflex stone on baltheon. No one besides kiki is a threat to him reflex wise, and after one steal attempt he is usually too hurt to keep stealing after that.
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>be in the top galaxy ladder
>almost no thunder teams in sight (only one or two out of 100)
where did they go? i want my free wins
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>>151909857
>Saramir already has Overwhelming II which does plenty on it's own

Only if you run BT. Saramir is wasted on Jin.
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>>151909894
>around 1-2% of teams are thunder now
>metatron is on 90% of teams

this METAgame is awful
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>>151909598
No, I lost in the finals, but it gave me enough points to get to champs.

>>151909684
N-no laughing please.
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>>151910080
yikes
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>>151910080
so this is the power of memes
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>>151909969
If you run JIn and you're determined to have her you can just run her mid.
The fact that WW has so many fuckers with Inspiring, Overwhelming and Honorable Vow II is disgusting.

You should consider checking you're privilege.

>>151910036
>Thunder midline having trouble with Meta after stone, TW and Meta nerfs
That's not why you don't see them in high Galaxy. Thunder GK may not be as bad as Light but they aren't hard to kill by any stretch of imagination. Thunder is so damn offense oriented that they just don't do enough for their GKs on a mono or primarily thunder team.
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>>151910190
What matters is that he's able to cash in those crystals to further improve his team
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>>151910247
>you can just run her mid

I tried running Saramir with metatron and meiran but she has below average speed and reflex. My win rate plummeted.
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>>151910080
Why Gerard?
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>>151910080
>rudiel cm
why did you steal my idea?
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>>151910410
With that line I highly doubt Saramir was the problem. Who exactly is supposed to penetrate out of mid in that setup?
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>>151910419
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>>151910503
anyone on the opposite side of victoria
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>>151910503

Meiran pens with 1300 dribble. She will OHKO most players without silla ace, except Duke or beth. Ardor players can fuck her up obviously.

WW has very few midline players at the moment. You are better off just using meiran/meta/victoria. Saramir has no business there.
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>>151910513
Disgusting desu
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>>151910419
It took too long for Alice to return, so I gave up on her. Gerrard looks pretty cool with his new art and gives the line loads of crit
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>>151910080
>based mad dog
Good taste, I made it to champs with a couple of shit players too. We both have a lot of +160 players yet we're struggling to hit champs, you have my full praise anon.
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>>151910545
I find that hard to believe.

>>151910697
I don't check Meiran's often but I haven't been blasted by one like that. Even then she can get mowed down by other players too and has that pussy AI so if she gets bopped she'll just twiddle her thumbs.

>>151910767
If you believe Saber's lying ass then Alice is soon, but we're going on over a month of soon so fuck that noise.
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>>151910080
+160ing half those players was a mistake
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>>151910080
Based anon. Not cutting cookies.
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>>151910921
Don't worry, you'll be able to buy Alice with 900 d stones soon.
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>>151910921
>Even then she can get mowed down by other players too

Meiran is surprisingly durable. Beth and bell cannot reliably pen through her, but choi obviously can. Bell can get through with superplay if the second attack isn't stopped by reflex.
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>>151910857
Thanks, anon! And thanks, /ssg/! Good luck with your future climbing endeavors!
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t-thanks!
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Base Nera is the only good Nera. Shrine Maiden Nera second best.
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>>151911376
I hope you die in a fire
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>only receive 7 points from winning tournament in champs
Only 40 more times and I'll make it to galaxy!
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>>151911667
fuck off furfag
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Is it worth it to use bosses in your final team because of the boss stats or whatever? Should you look to replace them at some point?
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>>151912063
Final destination is to make your team with only legends.
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>>151912063
>final team
no.

you can use bosses temporarily since they're quite easy to be fully superbed. but overall none of the bosses are that useful.
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who /onlyhave7legends/ here?
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>>151912510
>only have 4 legends
>2 males
>no s2
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>>151912023
I get around +14 usually, maybe your score is bad
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>>151912656
I will never understand BB's logic behind the scoring system. In diamond I was getting 27+ and then single digits in champs.
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New player, will arena become impossible if I level up fast trying to farm bosses and rivals? What other sources of GP will I have then?
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>>151912510
a-at least i'm using all of them
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>>151912510
i'll join the club someday
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>>151912510
just need Jiho and i have all relevant legends
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>>151913289
>New player, will arena become impossible if I level up fast trying to farm bosses and rivals?

The old guide is very out of date. They used to say "don't level too fast" but fuck that.

You need to field a full team and strive towards finishing some of the easier and intermediate CoT matches, plus the rival matches (which also let you build your 4* COT team needed for winning the 2* challenges).

A half assed team can also get you some littres in PvP in league play. Try climbing silver and push for gold league.

There is no need to hold back anymore. Constantly push your team and aim for one more CoT win, or one more CoD floor.
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>>151912510
>tfw drew Khirel TWICE because I wont waste a precious Littre on such trash
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>>151913810
you still need balth, duke, khirel, jiho and duran
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>>151913597
Hello berry
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>>151914391
>using guys
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Haven't played the game since a few weeks after Alsan first showed up, so I'm looking for some advice to shore up my team since my team is dated. I assume Beatrice is bad from checking around and I need Irru, scouted Mihoo today as well and have Angela, BT and most S1 / S2 ardor / ww players to fill up gaps. Also sitting on a huge chunk of dstones so wondering which legend would be better to buy between Duran or Jiho, my dick wants Jiho.
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>>151913880
dont listen to this faggot, he just wants to keep his arena global record
at low levels especially if you rolled a legend you can keep up an endless winning streak with your shoddy team. stock up on tons of GP while you can because between now and by the time you have one full EElv50/60 team getting it is not easy
unless of course you spend all your newcomer crystals on draws
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>>151914612

And how many littres and other prizes will be miss out on because he his holding back his team to farm GP?

Only unemployed autists can keep long chains alive. It just isn't viable for normal players to pull them off if they plan to ever work or sleep.
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Patch fucking when?
Can`t wait to buy skins for my favorite ardor girls
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>>151915038
Sharrs is gonna be an event skin I think
wish Elaines was the event skin
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>>151914898
>gks arent scoutable
he wouldnt ask if he wasnt unemployed, anyone with a job can easily afford the conveniently priced crystal packages and special deals, which will also give a fuckton of gp
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>tfw i dreamt that i got a felix

i dont even want him
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>didi next week
god bless
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>>151914603
aslan doesn't buff lucian since he's not a defender type anymore. EE victoria now since it's ardor elemental day atm, then get silk EE'd for the stackable triple line buff skill. miho is average now that dark AS stones got their CAR nerfed and her innate reflexes/attack power are dog shit

lucian is pretty dated in a time where starting with the ball reduces your starting spirit bar to 50% and utility strikers will bully lucian after his active block is used up. angela is tough with a backline that pampers her survivability, but she's also a pretty selfish GK doesn't make your backline better. with BT, she helps her backline penetrate out easier but she's obviously not as durable unless you can invest in a lot of CR for her

you can get duran to replace aslan but it's better to follow your dick, always
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>>151907897
i wanted to do something with more effort but I should sleep
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>>151915895
>purchase
>not a rental
10/10
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>>151915895
B A S E D
I'll make this the next edition if I can
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>>151915895
fantastic work, anon
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>>151915895
>only used twice
I thought we all agreed Silk is pure every 3 minutes.
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>>151916076
she was used twice in the last 2 minutes
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>>151915895
>implying milky wouldn't be the one getting sold
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>>151916145
oh now it makes sense. what a good slut
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>>151915221
both are fine for me
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>tfw have all the materials to hypermax a player
>don't know who to choose

Quite the struggle.
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>>151916601
You're waifu, of course.
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>>151917287
not everyone's waifu is from a video game or children's cartoon anon
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Black Ivy
>>
is
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CUTE
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Daily reminder that Milky a shit. SHIT.
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>>151918581
>remember to send out referrals
>open up 5* box
y-you too
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>>151913880
>>151914612
>>151914898
>>151915276
It's mostly lack of littres holding me back in CoD/CoT at this point (and 4* team) since I just lack stats, though team cost is a bitch too. I'm past rank 40 so arena is not a surefire thing any more, lost a 427 streak to an oversight, asslad active into one shot, normally I just dodge tough teams but I still need to be able to beat 1/6 to reset, and being ahead makes finishing fast easy, so nightly sessions don't take too long.

I'm worried I'll regret passing up bosses and rivals though, maybe I should just get 1 now and superb with littres later if I need them. Arena gives so much gold I could probably go scouting for GKs but I use it on stones for now.
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>>151919284
>>151918581
>>151918012
EE when
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Isillia buffs when?
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>>151920624
>leventor not even using red crit damage stones
git gud noob
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>>151920624
Leventor buffs when?
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Black Ivy EE when?
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>Bora can get 350%+ crit/critdmg
>still goes unused in favor of Sharr/William
buffs when
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>>151922502
why bother stacking buffs when you can end the game with 2 shots using sharr?
>>
NO
CHANGES
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>>151922502
What stones do you use on Bora, anon?
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>>151923698
Balmung, crit, 2x crit damage
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>151820572
You're right, anon. I'm sorry.

Here is my BT without the Arena Buff.
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>>151925521
>>151820572
Oops.
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>>151899158
I think you did pretty ok, anon.
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EDEN EE WHEN?
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>>151899696
F I R M E S T
I
R
M
E
S
T
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>mffw I got 100 referrals w/o being a threadceleb/namefag/begger and completely slacked on doling out 100

Serves me right, desu.
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>>151925951
>mffw I misspelled "beggar" despite thinking "i definitely did it with an 'a'" exactly 3 times before posting
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N O A L O V E
>Erica can't tank 37 Blade
>Elise infinite always get CAd and die
>If Lina survives Blade she is more reliable than Yuri for breaking out
>Enemy backline moves thrice before Noa can shoot without an active pass
Thanks, BB. Fuck you too.
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>>151922502
You do not want her bandwagoned, anon.
It's really not pleasant.
I still make sure to use your people's weird bora ace at least 2x daily because I admire you.
You're what urielfags were when they were pure.
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>>151926204
>all these randam ardor girl names
Based noautist. Purest of us all.
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>>151926386
but my ace is Bell who whores herself for FP
Bora is mine and nobody else can use her
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>>151926549
respectable as well.
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>>151926386
Bora has already started being bandwagoned. I've seen at least 6 different people using her so far. The only pure striker left is Jean.
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played the game daily since it was launched ( with the exception of a 2 months hiatus ), thousands of crystals spent, millions of gold drained. The result was a single legend draw of Leventor who i had no need of, and 3 legends in scout of which 2 were dupes of legends which i had bought using DS...
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>>151926719
You're right.

Reminder that you're a fucking cad if you didn't use your striker before update.
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>>151926885
>buying legends
>when they can be scouted
dstones are for rerolling stones and stone slots
and double gold when circumstances allow
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>>151927028
>buying 2x gold for happy hour events
Truly slavish.
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>>151926204
CoD Luka is hax. Base + 100% chance to reflex steal.
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Is it worth it evolving these Boss minions into players or should I just use them?
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>>151927132
no
weekend matches during an event that gives out 100+ ST a day so you can stockpile 999 with another 1k in the mail
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>>151926885
There is a seperate pool for legends doe : ^ )

It's about 0.05% :,D

It's alright, I didn't need a Metatron anyways ;u;

Not when the true Dark Queen Alice should be blessing us with her presence (hopefully) sometime before Christmas.
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Tfw people on the Chinese forum rated Lucian below Raklet .-. (after Angela Jin BT)
How should one build Lucian now that crit resistance isn't as good since most frontlines can stack higher crit nowadays? Is it worth it to replace Kiki with someone with more damage reduction like Kevin when I have khirel as line breaker?
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BB should buff Silla.
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who should I lv60 first?
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For those of you in Galaxy League. How long did it take to climb from champions to Galaxy? Theres about 13 days left, just got to champions and Im curious if I can hit GL at this rate. Im a lil worried, but I've never hit GL ever and I've started since the beginning of the global launch, so I thot it was about time I have to try and get what might be expected of me :/

So basically, can i make it to Galaxy in 13days?
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>>151927950
>>151927409
there's no reason to redditpost anon, thread's doing fine
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>>151927950
It took me about 2-3 weeks from Bronze to Galaxy, and that's with the low point gained per tourney wins as its the beginning of the season, i did refill the battle balls a few times though.

If you can win regularly and seeing that its the second half of the season now ( more points per tourney win ) you should be able to get there in less than 10 days if you play at a steady pace (i.e 40 points gain per day ).
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>5th 10+1 GP fiesta in a row
The mileage will probably be a Celus. The 150 mileage also draws from the 50 mileage pool too, so why fucking bother?
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Sigh pretty much loss to every Vonchi match up. ilfe is hard.

He is just way too fast with a lot of dmg. Usually one shot kill my meat shield . then 2nd shot will be a 1v1.

Also I rotated b/w DQ and Magnus for elemental totem. So no light one.

Guess I have to add Neura to the rotation.
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Do you guys also get the retry connection thing at the end of a fairly long match (20+ in game minutes)? I was wondering if it's just the shitty italian connection that's doing that for me
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>>151928372
Thats why i loved having Virgil :p

Maybe you need to switch to Angela sooner? but im not sure she's so much better than Lucian there :(
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>>151910080
>buying the inferior FIVE HUNDRED crystal skin for isillia
mistake
>>
need 21 more referrals and I think most have already gotten their 100 referrals made already. if ever you see this and feel generous please refer me: "Shielapots" (Global). send me your id if you're in the same boat too so I can refer back
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>>151927667
Renee, Vic, Yuri, DQ
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If anyone needs a friend, I have one open space, my friend ace is a level 70 Jay constantly unless requested otherwise. YuukaChan
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>watching random H
>suddenly noa shows up
I'm ok with this
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>>151930563
>ERPFAGGOT

no thanks
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>>151930831
and nothing of value was lost.
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>>151930563
sent
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>>151930651
What a whore.
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>>151930651
does she get fucked?
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>>151930651
source?
looks like Queen Bee though and I hate their lack of animation
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>>151931227
>>151931250
Wouldn't know.
I just found it on sankaku
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>>151931250
A quick google search got me the keyword Misuzu
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>need one 5* ele
>keep getting 4*
I swear this shit has such a desire sensor
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>>151931597
Just search on sankaku, mizusu: ieni kono or someshit like that
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>>151931941
Noa must be starring the 2nd episode.
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>>151930651
>MC on SS
>MC on a random H
coincidence? I think not.
>>
>9

Its too early to die
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FREYJA EE WILL SAVE THUNDAHH
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>>151934606
there is nothing wrong with thunder
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>>151934661
It's currently second to ardor and that's not okay.
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Got Vann, Blade and Griffith on my Galaxy account. Which is the best one in the long run? I feel like Blade is good but Vann seems like he'd have nice potential once he gets an EE. Griffith has the elemental damage against WW and high pen but I don't think she can crit with all the stacking crit right now. Anyone have any experience with these strikers?
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>>151935285
Vann's a dude and Blade is an ugly Reason
are you too retarded to figure it out
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>>151935285

>asking /ssg/ of all places for advice

Follow your dick anon.

I use Griffith. She's such a qt.
Also Vann's EE would probably be game-breaking
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>>151935285
Griffith > Blade. Used both for a long time. Blade gets dumpstered by any backline that's not trash. Griffith is the same but at least she doesn't suicide into Khirels and Kikis like a retard. Also doesn't need to crit that much, 4th passive and earth's cry is enough.

Look, this is what happens with Blade. She shoots, recovers action bar, tries to steal, dies. If she didn't die, ball goes over to defender on her opposite side, and the defender penetrates through blade because blade only dealt 1k damage to them, because fucking magnus is everywhere. The next time blade gets the ball, the enemy already has full action bar thanks to goddamn metatron, and the ball gets reflex stolen from her because the backline has 1k reflex over her. Repeat 8 times, because that's how many shots you need to take.

Don't use Blade. If anyone wants to argue otherwise please do so. I'm also curious about how to turn her into something other than a bad joke.

Dunno about Vann. Wahuh made it with him, but without Jin and Khirel I doubt things would go smoothly.
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>>151935285
Bone + Trail + EA is enough to crit everytime.
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>>151935285

Use whatever you want anon, you could literally make galaxy with anyone there.

Personally I use Blade, at least 90%+ over the last year. Only thing I really bitch about these days other than about my shitty shitty luck isn't Blade related.
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How does stone slot rerolling work? Prior I assumed that if you spend 150 ds for a slot, you get to keep that color permanently and can switch to it from any other owned stone slots free of charge. I reverted a slot to it's original color to try out another build and it made me have to reroll with ds again when I wanted to go back to the other build, what is this bs??
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>fontus bora
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>>151936787
kek, rip
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>>151936787
only now did you find out how bullshit it is?
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>>151936787
I guess you answered your own question. Once you go back to original colour you loss it?

Otherwise you can just pay 4X150=600 Dstone and have a permanent slot which can use any spirit stone in the game?
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>balmung hilde with VF in the line
It's like a non retarded Shu
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>>151936154
>Trail + EA
It's like you don't want your players to win exchanges with real uniques. Trail also limits positioning and it's secondary effect is garbage. I guess only worth it in some kind of mad allin team as poor mans Jiho.
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tfw no balmung
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how does the defense stat work? I assume it works in a way that defense = pseudo%DR based on enemies attack? or is it just directly subtracted from attack
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>tfw no blue pass stones
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>>151936787
>not asking or confirming how shit works beforehand
>only now that he realized he fucked up
You deserved it anon.
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>>151937684
It's just DR that affects co-op defense and you can very easily google for how it works

It should be scrapped along with co-op defense since DR is far more intuitive to calculate anyway
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>>151937069
It's not like your whole team is suddenly gimped by using these uniques; they're not complete dogshit.
The unit holding Trail is helping the vertical line to crit and break through easier, and this includes herself.
While EA is weaker, you can assign it to a unit that can make use of the action speed well such as a stacking buff/debuffer.
Only 2 units are occupied for these, the rest can still use whatever unique that suits their purpose. Just don't do something stupid like putting the support uniques on your most relied penetrator, and you'll come out better than before.

Strikers win the game, and Griffith can hit hard when she crits. The extra pen from Bone helps immensely. I'm in champs, for what it's worth.
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>>151938072
> Wise Man's, ever
> "I'm in champs for what it's worth"
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>>151938072
>champs
>>
>meme arrows
look mum i proved my point XD
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>>151938510
the fuck do you expect, shitter
anything below 2900 and you might as well say you're new to the game, or better yet dont mention it at all
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>>151938669
look mum i posted it again XD
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>galaxy
>an achievement

When will this meme end?
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i finally did it first time champs.
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>>151939452
Good for you anon.

I'm hundred points away and still getting my ass wrecked.
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>>151938762
yeah sure ok anon
you poor attempts at dissuasion don't change the fact that your thoughts and opinions are worthless
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>>151938276
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>>151940330
yeah sure ok anon
your attempt at forcing a stupid meme over and over again just solidifies the fact that you're incapable of producing a coherent thought. your posts are truly pathetic, rivaled only by your miserable life.
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Any one else think 5% for a blue ball is complete bullshit? 55 draws for one random useless 5 star is garbage
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>>151941191
It's all RNG, mate.

Some people just randomly shit out a Jiho after one random draw.

But yeah, drop rates over here are sad.

That's why the gold sink known as scout exists ;u;

We all know we're not supposed to sink gold into scout, yet we all do it anyways.

AtLeastIHave
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>sss teams on silver league
shiet
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>>151941094
maybe not to to 2900, but it is a fact that any team can make it to galaxy with all lv60mspu+160
at mid to high galaxy you can talk, because it's at that point you'll have to actually vary your composition
or you could talk without needlessly throwing your pathetic rank around
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>>151941191
It's always been bullshit since the beginning of the game.

>>151941509
>maybe not to to 2900, but it is a fact that any team can make it to galaxy with all lv60mspu+160

[citation needed]
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>>151941509
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>>151939452
Congrats on making it and winning that tournamentThundercunt
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>>151941724
>[citation needed]
let me tell you about jkun...
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>>151941871
Chaun, the legend
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>>151941973
you do realize he was the town idiot for being stuck in diamond for the longest time with a GOOD team with 12kTA, right?
>>
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>>151942504
>GOOD team
now this is why you will never get to 2900.
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>>151941871
incredible what photoshop can do for a person
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>>151942576
>metabell elaine milky team is """any""" team
alright jkun
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>>151942749
>metabell
>pre buff elaine
>pre EE milky.
keep embarrassing yourself sub 2900 shitter
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>>151942749
metabell is garbage
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>>151942576
>>151942878
Elaine got buffed halfway into the last season. Enough time to take every advantage of her. You'd also need to argue Elaine wasn't good before the buffs.

I don't think your entire team needs to be amazing to get to 2900+, anyway, at least not in the last season.
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>>151943183
>posting some shit KR server team that can't even get to their equivalent of 2900+
You're clueless you sub 2900 shitter.
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check-in event 28 is due today on my account - got a Ravian btw.
I feel like taking a 21 day break.
Will there be any scout event (with skin rewards) on this period? Could I make it in time 21 days later?
Maybe I wait and get the skin before taking the break. I'm really saturated on SS nowadays...
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>>151943409
check again tomorrow when the patch notes are released.

btw there won't be any sharr/elaine/victoria/angela/choi/red crit damage stone nerfs so don't get your hopes up.
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>>151943384
Not to be smug, but I hit ~2950 with Nerua instead of Mira in there last season in Global.
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>>151943151
Bell buffs when? She's badChoi now.

Her last passive should gain up to 3 stacks again and trigger on being attacked so she doesn't get blown up when she doesn't have the ball.
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>friend changes his Beth ace to Malcom
wew
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>>151943489
I don't really care about e-sports right now because I'm still a gold shitter. I've been playing for months though and it's good fun, I like grinding.
It's just that I don't feel like wasting my time on SS for a while, I'd rather do nothing. My weekends getting busy due to becoming an society functional human being aren't helping my drive to play either.
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>>151943508
>~2950
>last season
sure you did :^)
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>>151943928
Eh, I just fell down after losing 30 points in a single tourney and I flat-out gave up after that. It happened a day before the season ended, so I'd say it still counts.
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>>151944054
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Who the heck kept track of this, anyway? It couldn't have been easy to go through every name, especially when I forgot to put myself up in the new friendlist and I couldn't have been known to anyone except by occasional mentions.
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What backline is stronger?
>Tipical Angela backline
>Tipical BT backline
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>>151944229
No one. Discord made a meme out of it and now it's just a shitpost-level meme.

They didn't checked the friends list but instead just look up the players on /ssg/ clubs.

It's discord rankings. Not part of /ssg/.
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>>151944257
>Angela
>weak to dark joke strikers
>BT
>weak to OP as fuck ardor strikers
I use Angela
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>>151944257
>Tipical
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>>151944415
>discord made a meme out of it

You mean Jcuck ruined what was once a fun meme by taking it and turning it into a serious thing.
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>>151944415
That's some hard work for a simple meme, unless there was some automated process involved in going through those 300+ people.
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>>151944942
All you need is autism. No hard work required.
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>>151944942
It's called autism, anon.
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>>151944257
What's the typical Angela backline?
You have Kevin and DQ, but who else?
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Hell yes! Got the Dense Magma my Angela needed. Awesome luck for once.
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>>151945253
mbellanon?
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>>151945404
yes?
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What other stones for Angela? Green DR, Dark HP, then Blue Def in prism?

>>151945404
yeah
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When the fuck are they nerfing Silk?
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>>151943928
>>151944183
What was the score at the 100th place anyway?
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>>151945732
After they nerf sharr.
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>>151945732
at the same time as magnus ee. duran, magnus, and silk will be nerfed to ww only :^)

>>151945846
2849
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>>151945872
>sharr is OP
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>>151945961
>silk is op
>somehow sharr isn't
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>>151945951
Whoa, really? From some of the recent posts, I thought a large number of people were hitting 2900 or something. I guess I can still be fairly happy with my final score.
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I quit after ravian and jewnose nerfs in s2 while sharr was OP and now I came back and sharr is still OP but my girls all have more clothes on wtf happened??? My hildegard is all armored and shit I didn't want this

Is there an uncensoring hack or what?
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>>151947227
nice false flagging wwcuck
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>>151947227
More clothes is good, protects against weather, and pervy men.
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I'm in the middle of reworking my team, should I consider replacing my MSPU Beatrice with Sharr and upgrade Sharr using the growth event gatekeepers? Or should I use those gatekeepers to improve my other chars.
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>>151947423
But I have a sharr

I have so many questions though because it looks like shit got changed. Is Silla ace still good? Should I run renee over balth now as my frontline passer?
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Which Dark striker is better/ easier to build around?
Ravian or Lucid
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>>151947735
Vitos.
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>>151947707
you're going to want full teams of each monoelement in the far, far future for CoT, so it's probably wiser just to stick with Beatrice until then.
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>>151947830
>vitos
But I want a cute striker
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>>151947707
Striker is priority so yea

Follow your heart when it comes to choosing striker
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>>151947735
I'd say Lucid is easier. She just needs to shoot and then shoot again, getting fat passes help as it enhances her main strength in receiving pass.
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>>151948010
>>151948065
It just feel like Beatrice will hit a wall sooner or later, so I was just thinking whether its a worthy investment to start building Sharr up now.

>Renee and that stone in scout
Game seems to be telling me something.
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>>151948029
>Vitos-chan
>not cute
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>>151948398
then go for it and switch to sharr, either is fine, either can reach high league
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>>151948398
>renee
>ardor crit stone
explode
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>>151948431
no memes pls
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>>151948581
I didnt think of this, I should start buying ardor crits in scout.
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What front line for Bora?
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>>151947558
This is the kind of people that run virgin, angela, sharr, elaine, milky, ww backlines and all the cancer they can get their hands on.

Literally worse than hitler.
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>>151943384
>not recognizing a /ssg/ 2900+ crew by team compo and saying all this shit
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>>151948930
Man you lewdfags are so ridiculous. All that drama just because you're desperate to see naked girls. How about using danbooru if you need that so badly? It has no place in a game about soccer in space.
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>>151947707
Don't use Linmay and Meiran in the same line. Their reflex/crit totems have the same name, so they won't stack.
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>>151949412
I'm still waiting for that uncensored apk you said was coming to global, Fred. You're not getting a single one of my shekels until it happens.
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>>151948902
Renee or Nari/Elaine/Bora.

I've seen people sticking Choi up there too.
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>>151949234
That isn't a 2900+ team comp you shitter
Brute force 2700 at best
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>>151949860
You're not getting shit. Fuck off.
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>>151949860
>making shit up
Just go to pixiv and leave this game if you care that much faggot.
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DEAD GAME
QUIT THIS GARBAGE IF YOU ARENT 3000+
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Cutest penetrator
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>>151950262
fuck off sub 3100 shitter
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DEAD GAME
PLAY SOMETHING BETTER LIKE PGO
YOU MIGHT EVEN LOSE YOUR VIRGINITY

UNLESS YOURE CALLED JKUN
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>>151950262
>implying he is 3000+
>implying he isn't sub 2000
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>>151949645
I know that they stack, but at the moment, best I could give those two is their evo plus maybe one of them special trained to 6*. So I was thinking that either Linmay or Meiran can use Inspiring while the other spread on their other skill.

But if it isn't the best choice, which of those two should be sent to which lane then?
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>>151951220
Use Meiran mid and Linmay front. Dump Yuri, critting is more important than attack for beatrice, and reflex will help nera. Plus, revives the line.when attacked/pass
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>>151949975
>it's literally a team that got into 2900+
>"that's not 2900+"
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>>151951220
Do what >>151951416 said and put Lia back on your team as CM.
You should also look into raising your Angela
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>>151950682
>losing your virginity
>good
Better to stay away from women desu, they meddle. Sex isn't even worth it. Bros b4 hoes.
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>>151951684
It didn't get in

Stop with your shitty know nothing arguments you clueless shit
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>>151951416
>>151951714
Alright, would do. Angela's a bit on the backburner at the moment since Lucian is MSPU and holding his weight to boot, but I'll take note of that.
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>>151949975
I guess there's no way to prove if I really used that team so you can easily choose not to believe me, but that was indeed the team that allowed me to break 2947.

Also mind >>151943508 because Mira is crossed out since Nerua is supposed to be there. Mira's for the Club team.
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>>151952292
Remember to use Kevin along with Angela. Angela has an affection chain with him, so it's like Jin and Kiki. Besides, Kevin himself is like a rainbow Nerua, and if you get EBM for him he'll be a beast.
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I'm saving my virginity for Silla.
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>>151952306
I faced your team. It looked nothing like that you lying shit
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>>151952538
that's nice but she isn't saving hers for anyone
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>>151952538
>you will never rub your dick between those juicy thighs and cum all over her bikini panties
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>>151952902
She saving for me though as well.
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Lost super league to a Lev one shotting my Kei for the 7th times today, never gonna make it to galaxy. However it did finally award me this stone, I guess it's okay. Fuck farming hell match man, I've got 200 red stone from there, none of which are this fucking stone.
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>>151952869
Was it the Sue CM with Lia replacing Nerua that I put there as a joke after I stopped playing?
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>>151952902
I fucking love art with Anael and Hiro
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>>151953437
Irrelevant together
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>mfw it's solo shoot time
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>>151953597
Hiro is still fine with the addition of balmung.
Anael finally got pushed off my team with the nerf of IC and her totem.
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>>151953882
>anael totem nerf
???
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>>151954436
A little while ago they nerfed CAR on all totems and reduced the cap because they thought having 100% CAR in a game with 3k reflex WW and Thunder lines was a problem.
So Anael's semi trash 25% ATK/CAR totem got nerfed to 25%/20 ATK/CAR. THat shit's garbage.
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Best skin
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whats making uriel so good right now? I thought Vonchi was still the best and only viable of the light strikers
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>>151955135
Shhh anon.
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>>151955135
>good now
>now
>implying there were changes made
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>>151955135
Uriel isn't good right now though
She is in dire need of change
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Would FTS or AS be better for Silk?
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>>151955135
Uriel hasn't killed you by herself for a looooon time now.
The point of an Uriel team is that she enables her team to overwhelm you.

All the Light strikers are ok right now with the right frontline, they're just nothing special.

>>151955623
She's difficult to change without making her a massive problem.
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>>151955135
>now
She can almost get full ab on shoot while giving a free Beth active to the team with every shoot.
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>>151955682
AS is good for stacking, but Silk is quite suicidal. Fontus is good specially if yours has low reflex, EC is also good and you may use battalion if you want her tanky.
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Guys stop talking about Uriel pls.
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No changes
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>>151956479
But she has the best skin
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>>151956947
Thats true, I just dont want more people to bandwagon on my waifu and turn her into used goods like Sharr
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>>151956479
I'm pretty sure i know who this is. Your front rocks.
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>>151957148
But Sharr is a whore, Uriel isn't.
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>>151957638
As it should be, gotta keep it that way.
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>>151955623
>t. locketpanda
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>>151957638
>>151957148
Sharr is the 2nd purest striker, Uriel is a whore
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>>151957382
If I am who you think I am, T-thanks
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>>151957841
She is a very hot volleyball player though
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>>151957841
>Sharr, pure
>mfw
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>>151943183
would this still work out in the current season?
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>no elaine
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>>151957841
>Sharr
>any positive adjective
Wrong
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>>151959196
It would
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>>151959551
isn't BT pretty tough to keep using though?
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>Ravian
>Deals damage to the enemies within the position by 15% of their remaining HP

>Lucian
>Recovers 15% HP of the allies within the position

Mmhmm...
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>>151959998
>there are actives that heal half HP and AB
>there are no actives that take away either of them to any degree
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>>151959962
BT is like the 3rd best GK or maybe even 2nd best now
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>>151959998

Remember when Ravian did 20% of MAX to the entire enemy team?

That needs to fucking come back.

Fuck this healing meta.

Whoever designed Virgil should be eaten by starving wolves.
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>>151960473
Fuck off, that ravian was broken
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>>151960473
Fuck you
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>>151960514
>btw i use sharr
>btw sharr's fine
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>>151960473
>he needs gravity to win games
Look at this shitter.
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>>151960561
Sharr isn't completely broken like the old ravian was
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>>151960561
At least you have to invest into Sharr. Pre-nerf Ravian just needed enough skill points in Gravity Down and you could win games like that even with barely any other investment in her
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Silla ace still good or can I bench her for a better totem?
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>>151960685
Old sharr was just as, if not more broken than old Ravian. Except old sharr is exactly the same as current sharr.
>>
here we go again
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>>151960802
No she wasn't >>151960724
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>>151960753
Depends on your team.
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Why don't they just let Gravity Down deal 20% of max hp to the line again? Why did they nerf her to 15% of current hp?

Ravian doesn't deserve this bullying.
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>>151960914
>>151960724
Yeah, the same matches I could win with striker Ustiel. Literally bronze.
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>sharr is as broken as pre nerf ravian
>ravianfags making shit up
Yeah, I remember when Sharrs crippled my team with a couple shots rendering the rest of the game redundant since no one but the striker would attack, and it was impossible to reach the striker without forward pass.
Remember when Sharr did this?
btw i'm a wwfag
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Ravianfags are retarded
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>jingk/alice/ebm kevin backline
>my shanti has only 35 crit when she was able to attack
I never thought this could be possible
Now I want Alice much more than before
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>Sharrfags falseflagging again
Your broken whore is just as retarded now as she was back then. Stop trying to pin the blame on whoever it is you're trying to pin the blame on now and face the facts.
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>>151960753
silla ace is still one of the most popular aces, but with strikers like Vonchi she doesn't dominate everything anymore.

>>151961159
They don't want her to negate Angela and Silla.
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>>151961426
The fact is, Sharr is as good as william, a legendary, but worse since she doesn't need to crit on this crit meta.
Still, if you compare her to pre nerf ravian, the literal ultimate cancer this game faced, you're a retard. She was on a whole other tier of brokeness Sharr will never reach.
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poor ravianfags being falseflagged by retarded WWcucks
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>>151961159
Dark can't have a single nice thing. It's against ardorball law.
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>>151961613
Then why was sharr complained about as much as Ravian back then?
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>>151961637
>btw i'm an ardorfag falseflagging as a wwfag falseflagging as a ravianfag
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Are ravianfags trying to be worse than urielfags?
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>>151961840
Because she was pure unadulterated damage in quantities that were too ridiculous against all types of backlines, while Ravian was above that.
Not to mention, again, pre buff william was the ultimate meme striker, and her being better than a legend by such a margin was a reason to complain.
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>>151915436
Season 2 never.
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>>151961645
Except dark just got what they needed most, scoutable totems and a good scoutable assist
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>>151961613
>Sharr is as good as william
only against WW goalies
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>>151961512
>They don't want her to negate Angela
>They don't want her to negate the gk of the element she's strong against.
Ffs, Ravian doesn't even have a good matchup vs Lucian. He heals his entire line of Ravian's piddly GD damage and recovers a billion spirit thanks to Ravian's spawn.

>>151961645
IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>151962048
Sharr is straight up better than William against WW and Dark GKs. She's equal to him against every other striker.
This is assuming William crits and she doesn't. She's fucking disgusting.
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>>151961613
While I agree Ravian was cancer back then you'rr wrong on a few points

Ravian AND Sharr were both equally cancer back then for two different reasons.

Ravian would shoot ONE time and cripple entire teams due to how the AI worked. Back then she would take 20% from your MAX HP with every shot to the whole fucking team. No matter if she was at 0 superbs or 5 superbs.

Sharr on the other hand back then with how DI worked before they patched it would blow up goalies thanks to Elaine being on another level of ridiculousness when she came out. This was also when EBM stacked.

For those who didn't play back then Elaine did all the buffs she has now with 50% DI for half a bar of spirit. Combine that with EBM stacking.
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>>151961996
And nowadays Sharr is exactly the same while Ravian isn't even a shadow of her former self.
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>>151962242
Good Ravians can destroy Lucian since he sucks and she can do well against Angela

>>151962250
>equal
William is better, WoM William is retarded
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Looks like wwniggercucks are still complaining how Sharr is stopping their free ride to galaxy with their OP backlines.
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>>151962343
>You need Sharr another player and one or more of a specific unique at +15
>vs just having the player
>this is somehow equal

Shut the fuck up forever. kys.
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>>151962343
Elaine wasn't the only reason Sharr was good, Silluka was really strong too, and it came first
They were not equally cancer though
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>>151962449
>Sharr is exactly the same

Wrong.

Sharr used to have 50% DI Elaine, EBM stacking and DI used to allow her to go into the negative.

Doesn't work like that anymore. Sharr is also a shadow of her former self.

Besides the new ardor crit damage stones making her power scale a bit too high right now.

But that isn't just Sharr benefiting from those stones. They really need to tone those stones down and make the secondary effect only work on a crit

Ravian is actually in the best place she's been since her broken ass days.
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>>151962729
This, if anything Sharr needs a buff, if it wasn't for the red crit stones she would be trash
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>>151962250
the deal breaker isn't just damage for William, it's also the AB recovery

people who thought Shanti was good for getting 1:1 potshot chances aren't ready to see the all new WoM willy
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>>151962689
SillaLuka was AFTER Elaine got nerfed and Sharr was still strong but no where near as strong as the EBM/Elaine days.
>>151962665
Doesn't fucking matter what she needed. She was still retarded. You could argue Ravian needed her team to be strong enough to carry the fucking ball back into her hands.

That is like saying William wasn't broken before because he needed Silla/Luka, and IC and his mid line to bring the ball forward.
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Everyone stop talking about gameplay, mister wwniggerbabbywhorecuckwhinerjewfalsheflaggerfaggot and he won't accept any sort of implication that his precious, precious element of ardor is anything but literally worse than dark and desperately needing insane buffs to even stand a chance against the tyrannical reign of that buttrice who dared crit his precious angela for 100 damage and the BT who survived his sharr's normal shot with victoria pass with 5 HP.
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>>151962562
>op backlines
>a single character destroys them
>they're still op while that character isn't
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>wwfags
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>>151962827
No you retard. Don't take my post out of context.

Sharr is fine as she is. The red crit damage stones giving strikers an extra 36% DI is too much.
>>
Best stone setup for Black Ivy?
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>>151962729
Sharr herself wasn't touched. And that's the major underlying problem here. No matter how many times you nerf her inderectly, without a direct nerf anything that would help other strikers just a bit would make sharr completely fucking ridiculous again.
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>>151963164
>ardorfags resort to meme because they have no arguments
Like clockwork.
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>>151963173
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought 2 sources of 18% DI each were not the same as 36% DI.
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>>151963479
Sharr does not need to be touched, she herself is fine, indirect nerfs are enough for her, its because of those she goes from from irrelevant to relevant and back to irrelevant again
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>>151963784
Nobody would want to touch Sharr anyway, she's that damn ugly.
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>>151902103
Linmay is the one exception, despite slootoos.
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>>151963797
This is my thread though

>>151963864
Sharr is a qt
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>>151963726

They are multplicative, so it is higher than 36%. damage increase. It is why access to additional sources of DI make Sharr scale out of control.
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>>151963692
>i posted it again! XD
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>>151963797
>9 (You)s in one post
T-thanks anon, I don't know how to feel
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>>151964016
>memeing without arguments again
Thanks for proving my point once again.
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>>151963479
She doesn't need a nerf.

She was fine before the fucking 36% DI stones were introduced.

Those stones are ridiculous
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>ardorfags continue resorting to "n-no, y-you're wrong!" and more memes
It's like they geniunely believe that by throwing shit around like the monkeys that they are, they'll help their free ticket to galaxy stay untouched.
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>>151963921
>It is why access to additional sources of DI make Sharr scale out of control
If you assume Sharr is roughly equal to others before the additional DI then then they'll be also equal to each other post-additional DI

the argument should be on how well she works even without the additional DI sources
>>
>Sharr
>free ticket to galaxy
Stupid bronzies
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>WWcucks continue resorting to "n-no, y-you're wrong!" and more memes
It's like they geniunely believe that by throwing shit around like the monkeys that they are, they'll get back their free ticket to galaxy.
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>>151964169
Sure, nerf the stones. Three months down the line, jewball releases a new source of DI and sharr will be broken again, who gets nerfed one month later. Two months after that, some other form of DI is introduced and sharr is once again, broken beyond belief.
See the problem here? Here's a hint, it's 5 letters long, starts with "sh" and ends with "arr"
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>>151964320
Additional DI is making a whole mess of strikers be far stronger than before

Not to mention most cannot use double DI stones.

William WoM is stupid and toss in those DI stones to make him more stupid

Vonchi can use the DI stones too with WoM or otherwise depending on his line.

Most strikers cannot make use of those stone without crippling themselves in some way.
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>>151964482
Answer this then >>151962928
protip: you can't.
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>>151964320
Oh, in that case we should also compare strikers to how well they work without active pass sources.
Wow, Lucid is horribly weak and desperately needs major buffs.
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>>151962928
>a single character destroys them
>a character that has elemental advantage over them
>that is supposed to do high amounts of damage
>if you don't have that single character you automatically lose
Nice try wwcucks but you are just crying because Sharr is not hitting your OP backline for 200 like every other striker in the game.
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>>151910080
Approved.
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>>151964704
that's literally nothing like what I just said
Lucid directly benefits more than others from getting high pass
Sharr does NOT directly benefit *more than others* from getting additional DI, unless she suddenly gets an entire fucking stat called "increase DI effects"
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Ranking of element from most OP to least OP

Ardnor > Light > Thunder > *Power gap* > WW > Dark

When will the bullying end?
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>>151964989
>t. Im a WWfag
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>>151915895
Bahahahahahah. Excellent work, anon.
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>>151964742
>Elaine is the player that decides which player wins
>not broken
Sure retard, I guess people doesn't even need to worry about Vonchis if they don't run Elaine.
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>>151964742
>he literally hasn't faced good hiros, lucids, griffiths, or latios
>he fell for the "duuh invincible ww backline" meme
>implying any other character with elemental advantage can do what sharr does to ww and dark, the element she's supposed to be weak against
You really are trying to stick to the "it's wws fault all the time" argument, don't you?
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>>151964973
Refer to >>151963921
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>>151964973
players with DI in their skills benefit more from the DI stones than others because of how DI stacks

>>151962928
>a single character
no one does that
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>>151965228
>>151965306
holy shit how did you guys even pass middle school
>"assume Sharr is equal to other strikers before additional DI sources"
>Sharr does 100 damage + her 50% DI gives her 150 damage
>Some other striker does 150 damage
>Give them both 50% DI
>Sharr now has 125% DI, does 225 damage
>The other striker does 1.5x of 150, which is 225
I bet you fucks are same retards that keep saying "DI is less effective against high DR (not even in comparison to pen, but simply that X% DI doesn't really mean X% DI)"
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>>151964973

But she does?

She has a unique 1.5x damage multiplier and another built in 1.2x multiplier from her innate DI.

Theses damage multiplier stacks multiplicatively with crit damage, unlike traditional strikers that solely rely on crit damage and dribble to amplify damage.

It is why she scale faster than other strikers, when given even more multipliers.
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>>151965508
>proving my point further >>151963692
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Why did they nerf all my waifus

Anael buff WHEN
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#WhirlwindLifesMatter
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>>151965634
>waifus
>s
Anael does need buffs though
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>>151965526
>Theses damage multiplier stacks multiplicatively with crit damage
That's pretty irrelevant when you're assuming equal damage before throwing on extra DI.
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>>151965508
>DI doesn't benefit sharr more than other strikers
>sharrfags argument is that DI stones benefit her more than other strikers
???
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>>151965686
>lifes
WWcucks really are retarded
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>>151948767
Correct.
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>>151965872
DINDU NUFFIN
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>>151948398
>renee
die
when will I get her
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>people complaining about the most obviously broken player of all time
>ignoring the other OP player
The real problem here is Kirin. When will he get the nerfs he deserves?
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>>151966053
he's whirlwind so he's fine
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>>151966053
Just revert the retarded fucking CAR changes. There, Kirin is fixed.
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>>151966192
what CAR changes? Kirin needs a direct nerf
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>When will Sharr be nerfed?
After
William
Leventor
Voinchi
Silk
Virgil
Kiki
Duran
Meta
Elaine
Victoria
Bell
Choi
Serestia
Jiho
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>>151965508

Sharr does 100 damage.
She has 50% built in crit damage
She has 50% extra damage to GK
She has 20% DI
100 * 1.5 * 1.5 * 1.2 = 270
Give her 2 Ardor Crit Damage stone, now she has 94% crit damage and two more sources of 18% DI.
100 * 1.94 * 1.5 * 1.2 * 1.18 * 1.18 = 486

William does 100 damage
He only have 100% more built in crit damage on top of the innate 50%.
100 * 2.5 = 250
Give him 2 ardor crit damage and now he has 194% crit damage and two sources of 18% DI.
100 * 2.94 * 1.18 * 1.18 = 409

Going from 270 to 486 is a 80% increase for Sharr.

Going from 250 to 409 is a 63.6% increase for William.

See how one is scaling faster than the other? This doesn't take account into their dribble modifiers, but that is not needed to demonstrate how Sharr scale faster than other strikers.
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>Ravian discussion brushed aside for Sharr discussion

I thought the bullying thing was a meme.
We all agree Ravian needs buffs though, right?
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>>151966268
>Bell
she's already pretty bad outside of thunder teams so no, she needs buffs instead
>Jiho
she's not that strong

>>151966381
no, fuck off
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>>151966242
FTS CAR value nerf, dark AS CAR value nerf, CAR cap reduced to 90% from 100%, Yuri, Nerua, Anael, DQ CAR totems nerfed.
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>WWcucks were falseflagging as ravianfags to start another sharr discussion
wow
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>>151966268
>Serestia
fuck off, she need buffs if anything, fucking free boss is better than her
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>>151966046
You blew it, pal.
I even warned you and you blew it.
fat BoS Nari is better anyway
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>i can't actually argue with maths, time to memepost!
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>>151966572
Are you fucking kidding?

Literally half of Galaxy teams right now. Most common S2 legend by far.
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>>151966367
>See how one is scaling faster than the other?
Cool, but that's not the argument of how DI is special for Sharr.

your example:
>take away the DI effects from the crit stones for a moment
>Sharr does 100*1.5*1.94*1.2 = 349.2 damage
>William does 100*2.94 = 294 damage
Then you apply DI and end up with your result, but you're STARTING OFF with a situation where Sharr's doing more damage anyway, so Sharr is doing more damage after the DI too. This has nothing to do with whether or not Sharr is scaling better off of DI.
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>>151966367
You forgot Sharr's 25% additional DI on Dark and WW GK
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>>151966537
>FTS
they'd have to change it back to giving just dribble instead of AP then
>dark AS
they can't change that back, dark AS has to be weaker than dark pen, and raising dark pen's CAR would make it broken
>CAR cap reduced
if people could hit 100% it would be too strong especially fucking khirel
>CAR totems nerfed
didn't they just lose like 5-10%?
if anything they just need to let us get CAR from substats
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>>151966426
>Bell
>needs buff
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>>151966870

I am starting off with Sharr doing more. I also demonstrated that Sharr also got a higher net increase in damage from the addition of 2 Ardor Crit Damage.

The exact value of the damage is not the point here, but the percentage increase in damage Sharr and William got out of those Ardor Crit Damage stones is what is important.

The main culprit isn't really the DI, but that Sharr has a built in 1.5x multiplier, that isn't lumped together with Crit Damage multiplier and it is an unique ability that can be covered through totems or even stones.
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>>151967101
she is pretty weak, in the midline everyone breaks through her easily and then she becomes useless cause she's a fucking leader
>>
>orses will never be your mom
>orses will never give you referrals
>orses will never make /ssg/ good
>orses will never get an EE
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>>151967202

>that can be covered

can't*
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>>151966951
>adding an RNG check makes it balanced
You can't seriously believe this, right?
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>>151967210
She's not weak, that's how you deal with leaders.
They won't do anything if there is a certain HP differential.
Bell is still one of the fastest units in the game and has excellent stats, totems and passives. She should and wlll be fucking other people more than she gets fucked unless you're line is bad.
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>>151967202
>I am starting off with Sharr doing more
You're talking in the wrong argument, then, because when you give an example where Sharr is doing more damage even if you were using a common crit damage stone, you're returning to this:
>the argument should be on how well she works even without the additional DI sources
If she's broken after the red crit stones then she's just as fucking broken before the red crit stones
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>>151966572
Please keep this up.
I'm at ~860 dstones and Serestia-DX on top of dark legendary qt tentacle gk would be the sweetest thing.
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>people still try to argue with jkun and ardorfags
it's like throwing shit at the fan and having it all spilled over you
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>ravianfags bitching about buffs right after she got buffed
fuck off
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>>151967732
>jkun
I haven't said anything about sharr for a while now though

>>151966679
I need the crit damage for Sharr in PvE though
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>>151967202
>Sharr has a built in 1.5x multiplier, that isn't lumped together with Crit Damage multiplier

It actually is.
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Finally no more did you mean Miho in google.
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>>151967732
>ill post the same meme over and over again
you are really mad huh
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>>151967867
>needs crit for pve
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>>151966367
>>151968060
Since I was curious about how her extra gk damage stacked I tested it against 1-1 ardor gk.
It is indeed additive with crit damage.
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>>151967732
do we even have ardorfags here? i don't recall anyone using monoardor around here besides the noa guy, who doesn't even use the players we're all bitching about
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>>151968429
you do need crit for PvE, especially the floor with alice or kevin but I said crit damage
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>>151967732
Please stop wasting your time, don't reply to ardorbabies. WW-Thunder-Dark alliance when?
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>>151968550
our ardorfags are with mixed teams:

dark/ardor
light/ardor

but it's mostly our light/ardor anons shitposting
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>>151968504
Well, that clears up the confusion on whether it's the elemental advantage that went into the crit damage, of if it's a skill-sourced elemental advantage.

That's actually pretty trashy for the likes of Shanti/Griff who need that skill to kill the two most strongest GK colours so far.
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>>151968570
>needs crit damage
>when he has sharr
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>>151968903
without crit damage she wont OHKO retard
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>>151968903
not everyone is capable of actually making good use of Sharr

at least in /ssg/
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>>151968903
>needs 2/3 of his team
>when he has WW backline
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>>151968623
This.
>ardor bullies ww/dark
>light bullies light and dark
>both are the most broken element in the game
>they constantly deny it and derail the attention
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>>151968623
>ww-thunder-dark alliance
I see you, you fucking bandwagoner.
Don't ever talk to us or our dark qt's again.
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pls giv refs Aza3l12
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>>151969048
>>ardor bullies ww/dark
>>light bullies light and dark
???
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>>151968958
>>151968903
>equip 2 red crit
>cheese PvE with DI + crit dmg
>cheese PvP with DI+ crit dmg if she crits
brainless striker ... and people said old ravian was cancer
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>>151966192
Just change his fucking paralysis. There, Kirin is fixed
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dark/ww and light/ardor are metaphorically miles ahead of any other element.
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>>151969126
have you actually used her? no jacob or meiran stacks/active , no good assist or no strategy and you wont OHKO colo 40+
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>>151969072
Man, this event was an ass to finish
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>>151969317
Nigga no one is talking about PvE
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>>151969206
>dark/ww
>only units needed from dark are legends
>ww needs all it's legends to be good
>ardor can work without legends and the S2 that made them broken are now available in scouts
>light only needs one to destroy everything
>together they're practically invincible
Yeah, no.
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>>151969390
are you fucking retarded? >>151967867
fuck off WWcucks
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>>151969317
>40+
>most people have to hard work to get to 40 without OHKOing
disgusting
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>>151969206
>dark/ww

You mean MonoWW feat. Metatron?
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>>151969529
a lot of power strikers can OHKO floors below 40, its not hard
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>>151969475
That's fucking Jkun's post and he's the only one that posted about his own sharr you dumbshit.
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Ardor OP list
>choi
>victoria
>elaine
>gaphyl
Ardor strong list
>sharr
>william
>lucian
>angela
>kevin
>dq

WW OP list
>duran
WW strong list
>silk
>jin
>shanti
>bt
>kiki
>magnus
>meiran

Can we just blacklist ardorfags and wwfags?
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>>151969689
>magnus at all
Are you literally thunder?
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>>151969475
>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but this post literally 15 minutes ago that nobody paid attention to!
>f-f-f-fucking d-dumb wwniggerbabbywhorejewfalseflagmonkeyjewbitchsharruglyniggerjewniggers!
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>>151969689
I think this list is quite accurate. But ...

>Gaphyl should be in strong list
>Sharr and William in OP
>Shanti in OP list and probably Kiki
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>>151969687
>>151969813
then look at >>151969126
>>cheese PvE with DI + crit dmg
fuck off retard, the original point was about Sharr needing crit damage in PvE, not PvP

>>151969689
>gaphyl
he' still not OP since he has shit stats
>BT isnt OP
>Silk isnt OP when Elaine is
>Khirel isn't even on either list
fuck off
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>>151969689
>victoria is OP but silk isn't
>>
thunder op list
>griffith
Thunder strong list.
>lynia
>leventor(maybe)
>luka
>cynthia
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>co-op defense procceeds against me for the 4th time just trying to penetrate
>literally not one time
I fucking hate this shitty mechanic. This, the infamous elemental advantage reflex and the shitty AI are the bane of my existence.
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>>151969868
>Kiki is OP
I hate this meme.
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>>151969689
>angela only "strong"
>btw I use angela
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>>151969813
wew lad and ardorfags are the ones spouting memes everywhere
>>
I shameless run Vonchi and other "op" units in my team without a regret.
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>>151969952

Me too.

She's only OP if she has Earth's Cry. Otherwise she's above average at most.
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>>151969952
but anon kiki is like the single strongest backline unit that can wreck entire teams.
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>>151969915
>bt op
>he still thinks silk is op
>khirel
>duran is op even though he has shit stats too and gaphyl suddenly doesn't fit because of his shit stats.
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>>151970002
good for you anon, you should always use players that give you the highest chance of winning even though he's male
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>>151969915
>consider BT OP
>but doesn't say the same about Angela
without a doubt run lots of ardor units
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>>151970002

Fuck off Keptron.
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>>151970061
>he literally believes this
>>
>throw a bunch of ardor and ww units in a list
>watch as both those cucks reply to you and start fighting with each other
#3 STRIKES AGAIN
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>>151970002
Excellent, don't let waifushitters and muhelementfags poison you.
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>>151969931
you forgot these players in the strong list
>Bell
>Veronica
>Blade
>Vann
>Freyja
>Nikita
>Jury(A B O S S)
>Ass
Leventor and Cynthia are OP

>>151970072
BT is a top 3 GK, if Elaine is OP Silk is too, Khirel is still really strong, Duran has good stats

>>151970145
its easier to beat angela lines than BT lines cause of BT's huge pass/line buff and WW's bullshit
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>>151969532

Don't forget Baltheon and/or Shura.
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>>151970181
Don't namedrop me anon, I am too cute for this thread
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Seriously guys I'm getting fucking triggered by this "ww isn't OP" trend
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>>151970358
me too, I think I'll just play something else and ignore the thread
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>people running Elaine,Victoria because they are just too good to skip
>people running Silk and Kiki because they are just too good to skip
this is when you notice that something is wrong, 5* units being more relevant than 6*
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>>151970358
dindu nuffin
>>
official elemental rankings
1. WW has silk ace and free passes amazing backlines and thier stacking strikers work great with that, only major weakness is getting the legends.
2. ardor, great defensive tools equally great offensive and dark is irrelevant so no elemental weakness either. weakness is none.
3. Light, great healing and powerful atb manipulation, weakness is lack of synergy among units.
4. thunder, great reflexes and strong crit, irrelevance in current meta.
5. dark lol.
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>>151970280
Nice bias, faggot.
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>>151970657
thunder bullies light still so they're relevant, Dark is actually pretty good now but everyone still thinks they suck so no one is gonna run it
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>>151970553
Yeah cause one is legendary and the others aren't
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>>151970657
Official elemental rankings not made by a sub 2900 shitter
1. Light
2. Ardor
3. WW
4. Dark
5. Thunder
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>>151970280
>literal 3 shots is top gk
>he thinks elaine and silk are two sides of the same coin
>implying khirel isn't only on teams for his totem
>implying duran isn't good only for totems and

>it's easier to beat angela
>she heals for every unit attackes prior to the shot
>has her own silla ace
>has dq and kevin, can use yuri there for more hp and being uncounterable
>ww's bullshit unspecified
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>>151970657
>weakness is none
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>>151970657
If dark had a good backline, they'd be at the top there.
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>>151970358
BB could've prevented the mass WW bandwagoning by giving Milky her EE earlier. Now we are stuck with a bunch of delusional apologists.
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>>151970280
This is her gimmick you cuck, Lucian can heal the entire backline, Angela heal from any dmg in the backline, Isillia buffs DR of the backline temporarily and Jin debuffs enemy frontline etc

>>151970657
>dark lol.
>not mentioning Dark has great synergy with all it's mixed ace teams
Biggest problem of an Ardor team would be the need of Fontus
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>>151970657
>ardor has no weakness, has good offensive and defense
>ww is still stronger because of silk
>>
How to /balance/ whirlwind?
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>>151971049
Nerf Sharr and Shanti
Nerf Silk and Victoria
Nerf Elaine and Nera

done, nobody can cry anymore
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>>151970940
>lots of wwfags using beatrice or silla ace because no good unit with reflex ace but silk un ee'd
>silk gets ee
>wwfags using beatrice, silla or other aces change to her
>for some reason this is bandwagoning
>>151971049
It's balanced. Ardorfags are trying to make it seem as if ww is stronger than them so they get free wins.
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>Ravian doesn't need buffs
Explain.
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>>151970940
They couldn't care less. As long as people are constantly trying to get current OP players they get money. Why do you think it takes too long to balance things and after they nerf what people complain about they immediately break somebody else?
>>
reflex is cancer and so are reflex ace

Victoria in mid made this cancer worst than ever
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>>151971170
>50%+ of all pvp is WW
>this is what balanced looks like.
>>
Shu buffs when?

>Mind Bind changed from +10%HP/Def to the team to +20% HP/Reflex to the team
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>>151971284
Which is why everyone hated thunder.

>35% REFLEX and 35% hp with Nerua ace

>>151971261
She doesn't.
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>>151971145
t. thunderfag
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>>151970856
>3 shots
maybe if your BT is shit
Elaine is needed because of how much CR Silk gives so if one is OP, the other is too, Khirel is one of the strongest penetrators, he can get the ball to the frontline pretty easily, Duran can get good reflexes so he has that too, I never mentioned Duran in my first post though
Angela backlines aren't very tanky so they die fast and lose the ball easily even with all the CAR they have, Angela has low HP in away matches so 1-2 heals before a shot isn't a lot for her
WW's bullshit is Silk and Kiki shitting on everyone

>>151971009
>This is her gimmick you cuck
so she gives as much DR as Isillia but can give it at any point in the match unlike isillia who only gives it until the unit who has the buff dies or 20 minutes pass and she also buffs AP and she passes for as much as assists do, if thats not a broken "gimmick" what is?
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how fun would it be if they gutted reflex?
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>>151971429
well the hate worked thunder was pushed out of the game
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>>151971504
>if thats not a broken "gimmick" what is?
Most GKs give a pass good enough for the backline to penetrate to mid, I don't even see what is your point.
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>>151971532
pretty boring, RNG steals gives you a chance of winning against teams that are better, with no RNG steals you'll just lose
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>>151971405

>20% reflex
>not 20% CAR

A 20% team wide CAR totem will instantly turn him into a top tier legend.
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>>151971363
>lots of people use x player as ace
>t-that player MUST be broken!
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>>151971532
Nothing would change since the ball holder relies on reflex to remain with the ball regardless of the amount. That or it would be based on the steal and damage stats.
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>>151971748
but they dont give enough for a frontline player to suicide on someone holding the ball or nearly die trying to steal like with BT
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>>151971756
>>151971885
At least the generic VictoriaMeta mids would change
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>>151971860
>I decide what is broken
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>>151971504
>implying elaine is silk's counterpart
>implying silk gives anything more than cr
>ignoring elaine giving cr, damage, rec pass and decreasing resistance and defense of the goalie while getting huge reflex and good DR when attacked
>implying khirel is used as a penetrator when most people use him on midline
>implying angela backlines are bad when they get like 500 damage crit constantly
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>Not having a 75%+ CAR team
What's your excuse, /ssg/?
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>>151972135
don't reply to canadians
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>Despite multiple major updates, the game is still the same stack as much reflex to win
Why bother releasing patches when they don't even target the real problem?
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>>151972052
>that non-sequitur
>i-i don't have a retour, so i'll make shit up! that'll work!
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>>151972157
>implying I run dark/ww team
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>>151972157
Show me your 75% CAR team then fampai :^)
Unless of course, you're lying, but you wouldn't do that to me, right?
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>>151972135
>ignoring silk's ace
>ignoring silk's stacking reflex and ap
>ignoring silk's retarded full heals every 3 minutes
bruh
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>>151972135
>>implying silk gives anything more than cr
reflexes and AP
>>ignoring elaine giving cr, damage, rec pass and decreasing resistance and defense of the goalie while getting huge reflex and good DR when attacked
didn't you just ignore that Silk has a reflex/HP ace and also gives AP/reflexes with an action or when attacked and heals/revives herself every 3 minutes?
if you're using khirel on the mid then thats your problem, but I still see him in the backline a lot
>500 damage crit
maybe for the first two shots, after that its easy to kill her
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>>151972409
>ignoring silk's retarded full heals every 3 minutes
don't worry your light/ardor team will have elua healing in TWO MINUTES after she gets her EE
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Time to hit galaxy
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>>151972607
refer to >>151972292
>>
Who will be the next FotM once Silk, Elaine, and Virgil are gutted?
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>>151972756
>implying elua skillset is bad
>implying that 2 min heal is bad at all
while she may not buff exactly like silk, she has really good totems
>>
Should I get Elua while it isn't considered bandwagoning?

I would have her and Silk in my backline, each would cover striker shooting spots
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>>151972868
Freyja
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>>151972409
>>151972534
>milky does the same but better since she doesn't need the recovery because she never dies
>implying anyone ever complains about the reflex/ap totem
Literally, only thing people complains about silk is CR and recovery.
Her reflex and ap are even more relevant considering Milky, Veronica, Shura, Elaine and Ravian being everywhere, but not her main strenght since after a couple minutes it'll be irrelevant since no one in backline will attack.
Meanwhile, what Elaine gives is always relevant for the frontline, because it all helps the striker to kill the GK on two shots. Silk only delays the enemy from killing the GK for a couple shots, and her revival is for that same purpose.
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>>151973104

Elua has potential but until her EE comes out she won't be anywhere.
I got full teamwork on mine though so I'm ready.
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>>151973246
>Milky
>never dies
she's dies a lot
Silk can buff the whole team's reflexes/ap when she breaks through so its not irrelevant, it helps the backline a lot too
you just sound retarded saying all that
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>>151959365
>have elaine
>dropped her because i wanted to go full dark
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>>151973246
>milky
>never dies

nigga what?
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>>151973246
and people say WWcucks aren't the worst
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>>151973246
>but not her main strenght since after a couple minutes it'll be irrelevant since no one in backline will attack.
yeah right, your typical kiki/magnus has shitloads of HP and will most likely be using EC to minimize the damage done, so they'll be trying to steal and penetrate unless you fuck them up from the get-go so that your frontline will be at full hp to abuse the AI, which all becomes moot if their miho/virgil heals them back up

>milky does the same but better since she doesn't need the recovery because she never dies
???
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>>151973669
>>151973862
>reflex meta
>natural dr
>wom
>gives attack
>implying she'll die anytime soon
>>151973787
>not arguing
As usual
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>>151973297
I have that ticket where I can select any 5*, I haven't done it yet because I fear one of her totem might become Light only
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>>151973908
>>natural dr
when she attacks, she'll still be easily knocked out when someone else attacks her and even on attacks she can take a lot of damage from good lines
>WoM
irrelevant since she'll be blocking/passing most of the time in the frontline
are all WWcucks this retarded?
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>>151973908
even if Milky dies she can still grab the ball from low hp units because of her DR, maybe only Khirel in backline holding the ball explode her but he surely is getting CAd

because his CAR buff is only while attack

if anyone ever says milky isn't a great unit, it's clearly someone pretending to be stupid
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>>151974086
Say that to this retard >>151974081
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>>151971049
remove silk's active, replace it with a dispel ability that gets rid of spirit stone stacks/buffs on the enemy team and debuffs on yours.

give every element a character like this and then silk's stacking cr and alice's cancer debuffs become a lot more manageable. light's can be virgil :^)
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>>151973913
That ticket is super valuable. Trust me when I say that you will never want to use it on a Light unit the way the game has been going for the last 2 years.
Elua's totem probably wont go full Light because it's not a teamwide and if they actually wanted her to help Light they would make it 3 stats @ 25% and unrestricted so you can use non-Light units on the backline.
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>>151974165
I didn't say milky is bad retard
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>>151971049
revert starting spirit changes and give nera an in-line totem to replace her third passive
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>>151974303
I guess I will wait for another unit then
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Enough shitposting and falseflagging. Let's change the subject: post your team only if it isn't cookie-cutter tier.
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>>151974694
epic meme
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>>151974694
>Cookie-cutter tier
Explain.
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>>151969931
>Griffith OP
You're k-kidding, right?
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>>151974397

Make nera active pass cost only 0.5 and lower the spirit it generates slightly to make up for it.
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>>151974694
No i dont want to get bullied
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>>151974849
off yourself
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>>151974694
Will replace Khirel for Victoria, just need to ST her
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>>151972868
Black Ivy after EE
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>>151974849
No one cares Neraanon
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>>151975210
Good team anon
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>>151975252
black ivy + alice + silk

have fun never critting again
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>>151974694
100% snowflake
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>>151974694

Off color units triggers me. Ravian is the cutest striker
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>>151975430
You can only say that about Anael, Nari and Ustiel though
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>>151975210

Doesn't your midline get badly bullied? Does your Khirel use IC to get a chance to move?
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>>151975367
Not really, I don't know if I should go for a 4man mid including Lia or Rakshasa and using Khirel in back without Virgil or Kevin. That's how it works, isn't it?
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>>151975518
>replying to him
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>>151975525
I use Khirel in front of passers, Dukes or Beths to ensure pen, and Meiran in front of the player with lowest reflex/weakest
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>>151975467
Irru is cuter

>>151975518
barely anyone uses Irru and Ivy and Isillia isn't a cookie player
I used Milky, Elaine and Chitose before it was cool
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>>151974694
replacing snail soon
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>>151974694

>>151910080
At least I didn't get bullied too hard.
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J E A N B U F F S F U C K I N G W H E N
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Can we exile Jkun from this general?
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>>151974694
Forgot my image the first time.
I sub Sharr in vs Thunder and WW.

This is probably the strongest Light backline you can make right now and it still doesn't feel all that strong but it can stop/stall enemy frontlines if you don't get fucked.
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>>151974694
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>>151975893
no
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>>151975927
shut up jcuck
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>>151975893
You and I can try, anon. But there's always at least one faggot around to suck his cock and give him (You)s on top of it all.
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>>151975860
Wouldn't Shura be amazing for your frontline?
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>>151975691

But if you win the flip doesn't your midline get shredded assuming your nera passes to khirel? He stands there waiting for his turn forever and even a low reflex player can steal from him.
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Yes, but only if you report him retards
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>>151974694
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>>151976069
Meiran has more speed than him, so generally ball gets to her, and when he gets the ball (rarely) he gets a free pen unless it's agains an ardor midline or silla ace.
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You people with full +160

Do you just farm the swirly match and then roll at 80%?

How much gold had this cost you?
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>>151975909
>>151975860
>>151975467
>>151975430
I think I am very sure who are those people :^)
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>>151976328

It is very painful.
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>>151976328
It's very expensive, you need managers for that but I forgot them.

I normally just drops beelzebubs, 5* swirlies and black hole swirlies
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Fucking rabbits are evading me in fp draws and scouts, i just want to unleash Elaine and climb to first place in galaxy.
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>>151976371
>he doesn't know who I am
A relief. I can shitpost freely :^)
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>>151976503
Just to make sure.

This is the weekend swirly match? Not that crystal match?
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>>151976328
I go up to 95%, almost never failed
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>>151976328
>80%
XCom has taught me to not roll any percentage under 90.

It's cost me millions.
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>>151976328
>>151976503
>>151976568
>>151976627
>>151976646
>>151976660
>using swirlies at all
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>>151976606
I used a 4 superb lv60 Elaine to get in Galaxy anon
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>>151976606
>yesterday i got one farming elementals for my elaine
Good enough.
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>>151976646
>>151976660
Any special managers you used or just Perial and luck teams?
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>>151976627
the one that comes for an hour every weekday and weekend matches
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>>151976052
that was my original plan but as i played league i noticed that even with 80% more crit i still wouldn't be able to crit against the better silk lines.

my current plan is to farm enough d stones for choi and focus on raw damage since uriel doesn't need to crit to succeed.
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>>151976616
Go suck some dick Altaris.
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>>151976328
>and then roll at 80%?
you'll spend the same gold overall as long as you don't hit over 100%
go wild
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>people with points in Bell's active

Why. Just stop this. At what point do you look at Bell's active and say 'Wow, this sure looks like it's worth spending a bar and a half on!'?
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>>151976803
>not mentioning nacho23
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>>151976803
>not even close
I'm not on the list btw. Good luck discovering me.
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>>151976732
>btw I dont have a +160 team
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>>151976868
I don't knowman I just look at her tits
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>>151976868
>not debuffing the entire team AP
>specially when most backline lacks AP
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>>151976786
That makes sense and is a good strat since You will never kill them before they get stacked up without a solo shot.
Getting a Solo shot vs some of those backlines is impossible since you'll be cockblocked till some fucker revives.
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>>151977095
>1.5bars for a debuff that will go away when someone is knocked out
its fucking useless
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>>151976738
>>151976758
I have +160 and lvl70 ready for her, i just need some rabbits. She's gonna get nerfed right after i dump my load on her right?
>>
>50% crit resist
>to everyone on the team
nice game, retards.
>>
recommend me a game to play as I wait for my ST to refill familias
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>>151976786
What made you opt for that kind of backline?
Isn't it a little too weak if your opponent gets to shoot at you first?
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>>151977334
Realistically: only her Limit Response II should get nerfed, if BB actually nerf her within reason she is still a good buffer.
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>>151976896
Go suck some dick altaris
stop posting here.
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>>151977594
No.
They nerfed her active which was retarded on release.
They over nerfed her passives which they reverted to make her more relevant.
Limit response i supposed to be good because she is usually in a condition that reduces her reflex. Elaine hyper stacking reflex gets way less out of it than one without because of the new cap.
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>>151976868
I think it's worth something when she pens through and uses it so she gets full AB.
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>>151977829
>hey over nerfed her passives which they reverted to make her more relevant.
it was 75% before wasn't it? its still nerfed but its good the way it is
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>>151977829
>They over nerfed her passives which they reverted to make her more relevant.
They buffed her active and buffs, just stop. I hope they destroy her because of greedy people like you.
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>>151977952
It was 50% before for HALF a bar.

Elaine got her passives reverted back to how they were on release now.
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Weird, I just a met a silla with well over 2k dribble (1850 dribble before a pass came to her).

Sharr/baltheon/Silla/someone

Kiki, magnus, and khirel all instantly exploded when trying to pen or steal from her. She had low reflex but inflicted massive damage while sitting there at 1hp holding the ball.

I am trying to remember who the 4th person was.
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>>151978117
I'm talking about her passives anon, not her active, it gave up to 75% AP and crit
http://soccerspirits.wikia.com/wiki/July_29th_Summer_Season_Huge_Update_Patch_Notes
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>>151978290
Balth+Silla buffs position AP, if there is another AP buff that's why. Otherwise he could be running PoL to boost her pass it takes ehr AP to give to the striker right?
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>>151977952
75% was the skill before her EE.

>>151977986
Look at her original skills, them after her first nerf and them now.

Her first passive went from 3 stacks at 25% to 3 stacks at 15% and is now 2 stacks of 25%. The duration has always been 5 minutes which is pretty short but in a way that makes the skill balanced.

Her second passive was 15% Atk and pass effect which got nerfed and reverted back to normal. Stacks 3 times and lasts 10 minutes.

Limit repsonse wasn't and should not be touched since many elements have some piece of shit with 2-3k reflex in front of the GK.

>>151978290
Silla and Balth give attack and Silla has some high bases.
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>>151977526
Japan Soccer Spirits
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>>151978290
>1850 dribble before a pass came to her
That's not possible without absolutely massive AP boosts, anon.
I'm talking over 500%+ of bonuses here.
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>>151978489
>Otherwise he could be running PoL

I suspect it was POL yea. It was always on.

I rarely see her past 1500 though, even with bell on her line. Silla over 2k is pretty nasty.
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>>151977526
Clash Royale.
Then drop this garbage.
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>>151976868
I don't have any healers so I find I never lack spirit for anything except the occasional longpass.
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>>151977526
Mobius Final Fantasy
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>>151976868
Since the patch Leaders use their actives even at 1 point.
Bell is notorious for this, thus if she's gonna spend the spirit anyway you might as well get as much as you can out of it.
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>>151977572
unless you go all out with units like duran and silk it's very hard for isillia to take multiple shots from a good striker and live. i could give her an hp totem like mikael or mariel but she'd still die in 2 hits without an active heal going off against most strikers regardless. using a different gk isn't really an option because her line buff is too strong for a backline like this that's focused on repeatedly stealing the ball.

the 2 slows, the action speed buff and action bar steal from chitose, and the action bar restoration from uriel, beth, meta, and the active heals let's you stop the enemy team from getting a second shot off most of the time. if they do get a second shot off i normally have a lot of alice and black ivy stacks up by then to have a decent amount of crit resist.
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>>151979212
>Since the patch Leaders use their actives even at 1 point.
>Bell is notorious for this,

You're full of shit. I've literally not had her use it even once in months, since I wised up and removed the points I put in it.
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>>151979251
Very very true. You need a miracle or cancer to save Isillia.
I'm curious then, how much HP does your Isillia actually have in a match?
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>>151979212
my Bell has never used her active at 1/5 and I almost always have a full spirit bar after the first few minutes
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>>151979373
>>151979549

All my friends, people here and elsewhere have complained about it.
Consider yourselves lucky.
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>>151979542
she starts off slightly above 2900 and ends up around 3300 by the time ivy's buff is fully stacked.

there have been some games recently where the first combo will leave her sub 500 hp but by the time they get to shoot again she's healed back to full so it works out.
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>>151979764
I've been using her for over half a year, I'm not "lucky" , I haven't ever seen anyone here complain about it
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>>151979764

Your 'friends' are retarded and have put points into it. You don't put 'one point' into it, you put ZERO points into it. At 1/5 the AI won't use the skill no matter what.
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>>151979998
Actually they do use skills at 1 point.
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NEW

/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #340
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Hello, my name is Lia.
I ridicule Kirin's paralyze because i heal +700hp when someone bounces against my muscular chest.
I will not explode on Elaine or any other trap laid before me.
My longpasses are really useful now since they recover ab.
I also debuff enemies speed and give my teammates chance to act first.
My pass also increases teammates speed making sure they act first in front.

<3 Lia
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>>151980135
I'm retarded
>>151980098
>>151980098
>>151980098
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>>151979883
2900? How in the fuck with just Meta Ace and Chitose?

>>151979929
>>151979998
They put points in because their Bells were using it.
I've seen it vs Bells I've fought too and my other leaders, like Milky, use their actives at the base 1/5. Hell before the patch Sammy used to fucking kill me with forward passing at the start of a match and draining my spirit.
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