/simg/ - Simulation Games General

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1st for soviet propaganda posters is best propaganda posters

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More like life support edition

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>cucking tonys thread
kill yourself

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>>151878796
2slow champ

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Reminder that tankfag pastebin is heavily work-in-progress and that edit suggestions, requests for clarification, links to documents that would be good to include, or outright contributing your own written sections are doing nothing but improving the state of the general

>>151878946
Looks damn good so far. I'd suggest including GrmlZGaming's SABOW videos on the pastebin

I like NATO gear and advocate its superiority so much and then go and fly slavshit.

Do I need medical assistance?

>>151880075
No you just like fun.

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So, does any variant of the T-72 modeled in Steel Beasts have a gunsight with magnification worth a fuck?

Engaging targets at range is a crapshoot with the like... 6x? magnification the optic gives you

How much would you pay for your dream DCS module to be made with perfection?

What would it be?

Why?

>>151882632
welcome to soviet tanks 101

nato always sees you first and you can only hope that he kills your other two comrades before you so you can see him

Thread is exceptionally dead today.

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>In 1982, one of the MiG-25PDS (reg. #7011) was fitted with ECM equipment to provide individual and collective protection from enemy radar- and IR-homing air-to-air and air-to ground missiles. The equipment comprised the Beryoza-LE radar warning receiver (RWR), Geranium ECM system and KDS-155 flare dispenser. The flight testing was completed in 1983. Later, another aircraft was converted for the same purpose. It was designated MiG-25PDSL (reg. #94). It was equipped with the Beryoza-LM RWR, Gardenia-1FU active ECM system mounted in the external pod, as well as chaff and flare dispenser. Its flight testing commenced in 1985.

MY DICK

>>151885753
>2 aircarft of super sekrit edition.

>>151882768

For plons, either Phantom or MiG-25
For choppers, Apache
For other, a T-72B

I'd pay like maybe double normal module price for any of those if they were done well.

>>151887528

Also I'd pay mucho pesos for some WWII armor. Like, at least one allied and one axis vehicle, a Sherman and a long-barrel panzer IV or some such

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>>151884646
Damn right

what the fuck /simg/?

>>151882768
>>151887528
Ditto on Phantom. I'd pay $100 for a pack with an early Vietnam variant where it still didn't have a gun, a later contemporary to the -21bis, and the F-4G. Wild Weasel is not optional.

MiG-23 (of any kind, really, but preferably one of the easier models to get ahold of obviously) would be neat as well, I just really like variable geometry wings and it's a shame that Leatherneck is going to find a way to break the only module that'll feature them.

Finally, F-16A. I know the chances of getting any kind of Falcon are low, but it'd be nice to have an early variant for a change of pace from BMS ops.

gee, I wonder if there's a certain couple of generations that I like..

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post your favorite cockpits

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>>151889370
ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING

>>151890139
>NEVER EVER

it hurts.

>>151889370
also is that the throttle that looks like a prostate massager there? Swedes, I swear to God.

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>>151889370
I just feel at home.

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I like the MiG-21.

>>151878785

Sauce for this video?

>>151891176
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dcc_1361587034

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>>151889370
It's not my favorite fighter in a general standing but man do I like the P-51C's cockpit.

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FAST
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>>151891485

Pretty cool, thanks

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/simg/ play list fag here

If you have any good aviation or military related songs that are good, add them to here.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLGfGalIdY7DatF5tBP4hSBMgXMlualFd&jct=MhW_d8KbpGe5JZ0AJPPwF1k9WnCAxw

Post and share your dank songs.

>>151896375
No fuck you. Every time you make one of these, you just delete everyone's contributions but your own.

Eat my ass. Go away.

>>151896581

??????????

I've only deleted one video and it was because it was some literal gay porn

but you can stay mad lmfao

>>151896581
>>151896790

btw the only reason it shows every song as added by me is because someone deleted everything in the playlist, so I had to make a new one with the backup I had.

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>>151896581

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When did they implement the new improved mig-29 model? No one told me about this.
Any word on the flight model?

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>>151897035

Its absolute sex.

I like just flying around and just drooling over how good it looks.

The thing I am most unironically hype for is the model update for the S, and the PFM for all of them.

I don't care that its going to stay FC3 forever, the PFM will make it even more my favorite plane.

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>tfw wanted to fly sukhoi after a long time
>fly sneaky with eos in the valleys
>GCI calls merged
>reply, "ok ty"
>adrenaline kicks in
>lock up first target on my 3'
>forget to toggle IFF, splash friendly
>get bullied on sidechat
fuuk

>>151897945
dumbass

>>151896790
>>151897000
Then what happened to the other 3 of these we've been through, shitass?

>>151898426

1: Not sure why you are so fucking triggered right now holy shit
2: Like I said, people fucked with them, so I've made new ones using my back up.

The current one is the one with the most songs before its been fucked with, so you can just relax my dude.

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>>151898536
I'm triggered because it's full of ACE COMBAT MUSIC

>>151897945

>toggle IFF

What? Don't all Flaming Cliffs planes have IFF always on?

>>151898740
I think he means his radar.

Reminder that FC3 babbies have literally no idea what they're doing behind the stick.

>>151898740
EOS = IRST
Doesn't tell you friend or foe so you have to toggle the radar on to id

>>151898740

Wait no my bad I didn't register 'eos' as IRST, I thought it was the name of some random shitter.

Yeah I guess you could call your radar IFF in that context

>>151898831
No bullying allowed here

>>151899063
>deep down the mighty mig is just a pathetic tube

>>151900887
It's pretty much just a big engine with some stubby wings and control surfaces slapped on.

It's like a fighter that an ork would build. I love it.

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So dead what the fuck

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BMS is actually fun once you learn how to bind shit and get good. Nothing is more exhilarating then having a squadron of MiG-29's show up on your RWR because you shot down a few 23's.

DCS dynamic campaign when.

>>151902743
>bandits to our 30 about 20m out
>set speed to WAAAAGH and close in

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>>151902743
>It's pretty much just a big engine with some stubby wings and control surfaces slapped on.
I recognize that design philosophy, the P-47 was quite literally built around the P&W R2800 and the accompanying ducting for the rear mounted turbo-supercharger.

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>>151910364
Behold the beast. There is supposed to also be some squared ducting running all the way along the bottom, which was responsible for it's egg shaped front profile.

>>151888893
I can't speak for other comrades of glorious thread, but for me it is that I'm always less active during the work week.

Flying plens is actually quite tiring for me, and after a whole weekend of doing it I tend towards taking a little break.

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>>151889370

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ded thred

>>151882632
nah that's realism

memes aside soviet tanks were objectively shit in basically every way compared to nato armor

I've started fucking around with BMS a bit, and I've gotten to the point where I can get an F-16 into the air without most of my navigation instruments completely fucked up or missing for some undiscovered reason. How is it dealing with the weapon systems?

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>>151912915
A2A is relatively simple

A2G is a little bit trickier

I suggest starting on A2G because it's a lot more forgiving. Also consider watching supanova's tutorials on BMS, they're on the planefag pastebin.

>>151888893
I've just been out for 6 weeks while most of my squad's been busy with work shit. I've been spending a lot of time dealing with getting my shit together and prepped for grad school, so haven't had much time either.

As of this past weekend my squad's lead is back and we're slowly working on getting the gang back together again, got on and did some weapons-cold 2v2 dogfight trainan against another group wrapping up a couple minutes ago. I flew like hot dog shit due to being sleep deprived and a bit drunk, but would've gotten a kill or two at least it looked like. Fucking Osas on the Basis server kept ruining it for us, though. We were supposed to be calling out when we saw smoke plumes coming from the ground, but it's hard to keep track of that shit during a dogfight obviously.

>>151910364
>>151910512
The P-47 is my favorite WW2 fighter, so I guess it makes a lot of sense that I dig the mig.

>>151913338
Okay, thanks. Getting the plane set up properly eluded me until I watched a tutorial, read the manual, and tried and failed a few times. Just wanted an idea of how deep the rabbit hole goes.

>>151913735
The F-16 is extremely straightforward compared to everything else when it comes to starting the plane up.

Same goes for the weapons and other systems. Being a multirole aircraft, the pilot wouldn't really have time for doing in depth shit like, say, setting up a weapon profile in the A-10C, so the way setting up weapons go is as straightforward as it can be to minimize pilot work when he's actually doing multirole shit, like throwing some bombs and then turning to face a fighter threat.

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NO ONE PLANE SHOULD HAVE ALL THAT SPEED

MACH'S TICKING I JUST COUNT THE HOURS

>>151913976
It was mostly getting the electronics set up right that got the better of me, since the only full fidelity plane I've flown before is the TF-51 in DCS. It was pretty fun to learn it, though, so I'm gonna keep at it.

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>>151914504

>>151914504
Look, if you had one shot, or one opportunity
To go faster than you ever wanted
Would you capture it or just let it stall?

Yo

His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy
There's vodka on his spacesuit already, Stolnaya and Cherry

He's nervous, but on the surface he looks calm and ready to go mach

But he keeps on forgetting what he wrote down,
The whole Party goes so loud
He opens his throttle, but the thrust won't come out
It's choking how, Nato's joking now!
The clock's run out, time's up over, bloah!

Snap back to reality, Oh there goes gravity
Oh, there goes Tactilly, he choked
He's so fast, but he won't give up that easy, no
He won't have it, he knows his whole Parties back's to these ropes

It don't matter, he's fast
He knows that but he's splashed
He's so stagnant, he knows
When he goes back to his Babushka, that's when it's
Back to the Yak again, yo
This whole rhapsody
He better go capture that mach number and hope it don't pass him

You better lose yourself in the mach, the moment
You own it, you better never let it go (go)
You only get one shot, do not let your engines blow
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime (yo)

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>>151916214

>never flew over USSR because Foxbats
>over a third of all built were lost in accidents
>never flew close to the USSR once the Foxhound showed up

meme plane

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>>151916471

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>>151916546

hi

>trying to fight in the T-72 with electrical power to the turret knocked out

never tapped the arrow keys so frantically in my life

too bad the documentation for emergency procedures in the T-72 is shit. I can't find the exact elevation required for the autoloader to work, so I just kind of have to put it about where it looks right and hope it works.

>>151916467

/SIMG/ SONG/RAP FUCKING WHEN????????

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>>151916471
>never flew over USSR because Foxbats
>never flew close to the USSR once the Foxhound showed up
nice bait 5/10

>>151916834

You're the one thats baiting my dude.

The SR-71 did not do overflights of the Soviet Union. You might be thinking of the U-2?

>>151916882
>harmtard

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>>151916467
Oh them? Yeah, I know them.

It's going to take a while... it happened a few threads ago... Did you know there are three kinds of planefag? Those who post planes, those who live for ops, and those who can shitpost an entire thread. Those are the three. And them? They were a virtual squadron called /Дa бoйз/, who flew in blueflag. These planefags were never bodied. *ops ops ops ops* Those are the planefags we seek. It was a cold and snowy day...

>>151916943

>craigu

>>151916834

Please find me one piece of evidence showing the SR71 flew over Soviet territory.

I'll wait.

By the way, they had spy satellites by this time, so good luck justifying the US risking WW3 just to wave their dicks.

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>>151916467

>>151915681

It's a fun plane to fly. It's even better to fly with friends

Listen out for BMS ops announcements in the thread. We're happy to help those new to the jet to get up and running.

Also 24/7 BMS server soon, fellow piltos

t. BMS host

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bodied

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>>151916948
"Oh them? Yeah, I know them. It's going to take a while... it happened a few threads ago... Did you know there are three kinds of planefag? Those who post planes, those who live for ops, and those who can shitpost an entire thread. Those are the three. And them? They were a virtual squadron called /Da Boiz/, who flew in blueflag. These planefags were never bodied. "Yo buddy, just look above you, there's not much difference between those simulators from up here", Those are the planefags we seek. It was a cold and snowy day..."

"There ops taking place over the airspace of blueflag"
"Who did they send us?"
"Da Boiz, we cannot allow blu to cap this airfield"
"I figured you'd say that, get in TS for ops"
"This is Chopper dave with Mi-8MTVs, I'll support you in any way I can"
"If you get shot down, respawn and fly SEAD"
"Roger that!"
"Blueflag was shrouded in mistery, everybody is a hero and a shitter, and no one knows who's the migger, and who's the flanker, or F-15C"
"Blu fags approaching, remove them to secure air superiority"
"They gotta nerf those 120s"
"It's time to fox some 27ERs"
"These are godsplane fighters, stay sharp"
"Godsplane, nothing special, ET takes care of things"
"There are no rules to air to air fights, you just have to take the enemy out"
"The fight is not ended until one side is completely capped"
"Why don't you accept it kid, this is war"
"R-27ERs?"
"Fire away coward!"
"DAVAAAY"

"We will survive, /Дa бoйз/"

>>151917170
Never said it did.
But if you think the foxbat is the reason why SR-71 never overflew Soviet territory then your incorrect. His statment about the foxhound is also incorrect but I wont entertain the shitposting slav circle jerk.

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>>151918132

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http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2874773&postcount=108

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2847554&postcount=930

Well, we can close the book on that.
Fucking kill me.

>>151917480
Save us from the teamspeak hell

>>151917480
Sounds like fun. I might try to join one once I get a bit more of the basics figured out.

>>151918596
I don't know what you were expecting.

I'm just glad we're getting new flight models.

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https://youtu.be/ZeBDI2qLRDY

MEME SHIT

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>>151920174
https://youtu.be/NnwqJmOL6I8
https://youtu.be/IikiPTgtwWY
delete

>>151919104

Fulcrum flight model in 2017.

>>151920957
>20XX

>>151890402
*dibs stahlhelm*

>Small/medium model elargement makes no difference

>Enlarged turns infantry into Mech-sized blobs at 10nm

When will scaling be fixed?

>>151917480
for sure senpai,most ppl you ask will always be happy to help out

on another note:

ANYONE PLANNING TO PLAY FALCON ONLINE WHEN IT LAUNCHES ON THE 21ST (iirc) NEEDS TO LEARN TO RAMP START THE PLANE

LEARN IT HERE
Falcon BMS 4.33 U1\Docs\Falcon BMS Manuals\TO-BMS1F-16CM-1.pdf
PAGE 145

How about $20 for my patreon campaign?

>>151923845
>Falcon Online

Also GET YOUR ASS ON THEIR TEAMSPEAK

>>151918714
The same people in the current TS would likely migrate to any other /simg/ one. It's not like you need to stay in there to socialise once ops are over.

I'll make an ops one if there's enough demand though

What's the preferred real world air combat altitude for modern jets? Do real air forces try and hug the ground all the time too, like the heroic pilots in DCS multiplayer?

>>151924552
Probably the point where you Eh is highest.

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The Huey is the most fun chopper to fly in DCS. Prove me wrong.

>>151916471
Yet flew over Lybia all day every day at speeds well above it's stated cruise.

>>151924552
High because energy

Low level memes is exactly that: A meme. Modern radar can see you even if you literally touch the grass because you go fast. You need to slow down to way past crashing speed to avoid detection.

I think lower threat deck is like 10,000 feet, below that is the death zone of manpads and AAA.

>>151924552
Largely depends on the target, munitions carried, other flights in the area, aircraft doing the sortie, threats etc.

For example, a target with a high SAM threat might be better attacked from down low with a popup or loft attack while a target with lots of AAA around could be safely attacked from altitude outside of the range of the guns.

>>151905656
Literally never

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>>151925885
It's slavboo delusion. I'd rather not give harmtard the (you). They never flew over the Soviet Union because they were afraid of SAM's and losing pilots just like the U-2. But here have this little Gem from a pretty interesting guy.
>Soviet pilot Viktor Belenko, who defected to Japan in a MiG-25 on Dec. 6, 1976, confirmed it in its “MiG Pilot” book.

“American reconnaissance planes, SR-71s, were prowling off the coast, staying outside Soviet airspace by photographing terrain hundreds of miles inland with side – angle cameras. They taunted and toyed with the MiG-25s sent up to intercept them, scooting up to altitudes the Soviet planes could not reach, and circling leisurely above them or dashing off at speeds the Russians could not match,” Belenko explained.

However, according to the Mig pilot, Russians tried to intercept and shoot down a Blackbrid, but they always failed this task: “[The Soviets] had a master plan to intercept an SR-71 by positioning a MiG-25 in front of it and one below it, and when the SR-71 passed they would fire missiles. But it never occurred. Soviet computers were very primitive, and there is no way that mission can be accomplished.”

“First of all, the SR-71 flies too high and too fast. The MiG-25 cannot reach it or catch it. Secondly…the missiles are useless above 27,000 meters [88,000 feet], and as you know, the SR-71 cruises much higher. But even if we could reach it, our missiles lack the velocity to overtake the SR-71 if they are fired in a tail chase. And if they are fired head-on, the guidance systems cannot adjust quickly enough to the high closing speed”.

>>151924552
In general, high up because it puts you out range of the really nasty stuff that you won't even see like MANPADS. Sometimes a mission calls for low level cowboy strikes, but as I understand it that's a minority of the actual combat missions that get flown.

If air to air is involved, radar has gotten so good that flying high is almost always preferable. The F-22 for example was designed with thrust vectoring in mind so that it could super cruise at very high altitude and sling AMRAAMs while still being maneuverable in the thin air. That thrust vectoring also makes for high maneuverability at air show speeds for air shoe maneuvers is a nice bonus.

>>151926074
>Modern radar can see you even if you literally touch the grass because you go fast.

Provided that terrain doesn't mask your approach, sure. You also have to consider the curvature of the earth. Radars can't see lower than the horizon due to the planet being in the way. While the horizon might seem very far away to a stationary observer, jets can cover the distance in a fairly quick time, giving the radar operator not an awful lot of time to react.

Still, with good SEAD and EWAR packages in support and precision munitions then why not bomb from 20k ft and stay out of AAA/Manpad range?

>>151918596
So we may get a PFM su-33?

Eh i can live with that.

>>151926550
Which is why they made the 31

Viktor's a pretty cool guy tho, shame he didn't believe in the power of the proletariat :^)

>>151926947
>Provided that terrain doesn't mask your approach, sure.
>Radars can't see lower than the horizon due to the planet being in the way.

Which is why modern AWACS fly very high and can cover half a continent with one plane positioned correctly
>Its pulse-Doppler radar (PD) has a range of more than 250 mi (400 km) for low-flying targets at its operating altitude, and the pulse (BTH) radar has a range of approximately 400 mi (650 km) for aircraft flying at medium to high altitude

That's for the E3, which they stopped producing in 1992. We're now 24 years later.

>>151927402

Yea, flying under air-based radar can be a bit tricky. Had assumed ground-based search and SAM fire-control radars

>>151927504
Low level is dead in modern battlefields. Iglas everywhere and shitty 50 cals on Toyotas that can ruin your day.

>>151927573

Depends who you're fighting. Low level 'show of force' against insurgents is very much alive and well.

I realise that's not dropping armaments on people but still a tactic used

>>151927269
Yeah to intercept low flying cruise missiles, F-111s and B-1Bs. The MiG-31 has a lower top speed and no increase in service ceiling over the MiG-25.

>>151927269
Yea I like the Foxhound. I'm glad it has such a nice model in DCS.
Here is some more interesting stuff.
>On January 31st, 1986, MiG-31 pilot Captain Mikhail Myagkiy achieved lock-on onto an SR-71 from a distance of 120km at an altitude of 52,000 feet. He did not engage the Blackbird though, because it had not violated Soviet airspace.
>June of 1986, six Soviet MiG-31's staged a coordinated "all angles" intercept of an SR-71 over the Barent's Sea, also locking onto it (but not firing on it for the same reason - it had not violated Soviet airspace). That particular intercept resulted in the USA cancelling Blackbird recon flights near/over the Soviet Union, because it showed that the Soviets had the capability to successfully target the spyplane, and it was believed their R-33 Amos long-range missile fired from the Foxhound could bring it down if fired in anger at it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeBu6mRDaro

What if Russia unveils a Mach 4 bomber?

>>151928275
It'll blow up on its own before it gets to do any actual harm.

>>151928051
Considering that the SR-71 ran operations out of Mildenhall all the way to 1990, that's bullshit.

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Tankfag pastebin received minor update. If you've read any good tank books, I'll add them to it.

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>ED announces a MiG-25 module
>it's the reconnaissance version
post yfw

>>151929054
Main battle tank by Niall Edworthy is pretty good. About a British tank regiment during gulf war 2

>play barham mission in SHIII
>try for multiple hours to sink the first BB in line using manual torpedo settings with the map tools
>try every fucking combination even though it's literally irrelevant because my torpedos are always one second too late
>say fuck it and just eyeball it without using the tools
>hit all four torpedos the first time
I don't know what the fuck is going on anymore.

>>151929054
Panzer Tactics: German Small-Unit Armor Tactics in World War II?

I'll crack my version and upload it later.

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>>151929262

Added.

>>151885753
>mig25
>literally a stolen version of the f15
are russians even able to come up with their own designs?

>>151929578
There's also Panzerstorm and Troop leader. Both opposite perspectives in ww2

>>151928319
this desu

>>151928496
This.
The 31 being the reason why the SR-71 went away is a meme. Just like all cool things in the US air force, it got tossed to the side so we could save moneis for dem programs. This is what happens when you let the chair force fly super sekrit recon planes. It would have flown longer if the CIA had used it.

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>>151929701
>>151929552

Also added.

If you can, include if the book is based on the author's own experience (i.e. it is a memoir) or not- not going to be super descriptive with the literature listing, but I personally find memoirs of the soldiers who actually did the fighting more informative than things written by people after the fact.

>>151929636
>slavboos false flagging with shitty bait after getting blown out
LMAO
M
A
O

Wew craig is going all out in the thread today.

>>151930006
>blown out
What?

>>151929992

No worries. Can confirm all three of the books I've mentioned (MBT, Panzerstorm and Troop Leader) are memoirs

>>151929992
Panzer Tactics is not a memoir. It's a break down on how Panzers are used, how orders are given and the like.

I suppose a handbook on how to fight with a tank platoon.

>>151929905
Ok it was developed for the CIA as the single seat A-12 first and then they got rid of it in 1968.

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Is CMANO a welcome game in here?

>>151929295
That's why you fire a spread with each torpedo set for a higher and or lower speed than your estimate.

>>151930627
yup

>>151930580
Okay I'm not sure what your getting at.....
I was trying to say that if maybe the CIA had operated the blackbird instead of the airforce it probably would have stuck around for a little longer. Considering they actually give a shit about expedited reconnaissance.

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>>151930819
Cool, thanks

>>151929578
Is that an ammo cookoff?

>in the distant future it will be possible to create servers with only carrier based fighters (Su-33 and Hornet) and no airfields
I'm kind of excited for that.

>>151930734
I just don't understand what went wrong or right I guess.
Based on my, apparently fucked up, input numbers that I got from using the tools on the navigation map I was essentially right on. Seeing them all miss by a second every single time felt like a curse.

>>151933380
>a squadron frags a flight at offtime, fires 100 Harpoons and ends Blue Flag on day one

Mig-21 is easy mode.

Any advice for silent hunter 5? I know the base game has issues but I don't wanna go full realism mods here.

>>151940686
go for full realism mod

>>151916882
According to Soviet radar operators the SR-71 flew over the Kola Peninsula and Novaya Zemlya, it was so fast that it could get 300-400 miles inland and turn around before enemy fighters could scramble and get into missile parameters

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>>151940728
Fuck that, where can I find SH3? Apparently SH5 doesn't even work anymore.

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>>151930627
>when ur irradiating millions to death in coastal cities with nuclear torps and depth charges and the commander says carry on but you hit a whale and he rings you up and tells you you'll be seeing the board of enquiry

>>151941383
steam

dead

>>151941186
B-b-but muh MiG-25
Muh MiG-31
it s-s-scared the sr-71 away, muh feelys told me so.

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>when your ship gets booped by Russian snoots.

>>151944553
t.harmtard

Ded y

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Imagine being on a ship that gets bombed or missiled or whatever FUCK

That's one of the most terrifying things I can think of. Not knowing if you're going to drown, burn or die of blast/shrapnel. Or being locked below deck by some sort of damage to doors.

This shit was half-expected for sailors in WW2, crazy shit man.

>>151947561
Worse, imagine seeing the flash and counting to 12.

>>151947561
This is honestly the main reason I don't wanna join the navy over the army or air force.

At least humans are designed to survive on land, and in the air, well you have a parachute so as long as that works you're sweet

>>151947561
There is a story about surviving sailors of a hit ship during WW2 and how sharks ate them one by one.

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>>151947561
Well during the Falklands War most of the deaths of the sinking of the ARA General Belgrano were pretty much instant or rather quick due to the second torpedo explosion ripping up through the decks. Some of which were rec areas that were filled with sailors relaxing while the ship sailed back to port.

323 people died but that's only 28% of the ships total crew.
Then you have to take into account that it's a WW2 light cruiser with a bunch of modern upgrades thrown on top.

Modern warships tend to have less crew and have much better materials, I don't think it's nearly as scary or as dangerous. In fact, on some ships, like an aircraft carrier, you are probably in the safest place in the world as you'd be surrounded by your supporting fleet.

I'd love to join the Navy, I work in an office that is in an old dockyard and I also live near by, I fucking love the maritime scene.

>>151947561
Imagine you are in a submarine. Way worse feeling knowing you are x thousand feet below water. On surface at least you know you can make your way out to float on the water.

>>151948176
In the book "The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors" by James D. Hornfischer there is a reference, that if you don't block/close your butthole somehow after you are in the water [after getting off a ship in a combat situation], then the pressure generated by depth charges could suck out your intestines through your anus for a really gruesome death.

>>151948176
That was the USS Indianapolis (CA-35), on it's way back from the Front after delievering Little Boy. The captain was mired and harassed so bad, he shot his brains out 23 years later next to a sailor doll he got from father.

>>151944553

You unironically thought SR71s were zooming all over the USSR until you got blown the fuck out and spent all night looking for proof and found none.

Just kill your self please.

>your proof is bull shit
>my one unsourced quote is a fact

What did craig mean by this?
Why does he claim he isn't the one shitting up the thread when it's so painfully obvious that's it's him?

>>151951910
>Entire thread shits on his planefu so now he's mad
How cute. LMAO.

>>151952672

>entire thread
You mean you?

>he went and saved a bunch of SR71 pictures just so he can shit on someone who likes the MiG25.

Why are natoboos so fucking pathetic lmfao.

I really enjoy it when people say slava/NATOboos btfo its really fun and never gets tired its like banter about sports teams but with airplanes in the seventies.

Somebody struck nerve. Jesus Christ.

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>>151953280

Sorry man, this plane has a habit of doing that.

Inflaming murican buttholes for almost 40 years now. What a legend.

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This made my day.
Thanks idiot.

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>he is STILL mad
>Not just ignoring MiG25 posts

baited
bodied

navier-stokes real time fighter sim when?

Yo for real.
Who want to play DW ops tonight? Pvp multi crew submarine vs P3.

>>151954934
>81 Beryoza RWR
>135 Port RWR antenna

god

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN

>>151952334
The fuck are you talking about. Is this TS drama?

>>151952334
>Call him out on it
>He denies it while giggling like a child

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX4kysFMXVA

is this /simg/ approved?

>>151956236
FEAR THE DOGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

>>151956236

>Afterburner noise is a sped up version of someone banging on a bin lid

Fucks sake, modders

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>>151956413
DCS devil DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWG story time

>Be playing on DCS just as su-27 releases.
>Flying about just screwing around
>DEVIL DAAAAAAAAAAAAWG has joined the server
>Joins su-27 crashes on take off
>Takes off after the 2nd attempt.
>THE DAAWG -"How do you do a cobra?"
>Based random anon -"press "S"
>30 seconds later
>DevildDog has crashed
>DevilDog disconnected from server
Never see him in DCS again.
>mfw

>>151956827

I don't have FC3, what does S do?

>I posted the Viktor Belenko quote in response to harmless
>He thinks it was craig
>Now is legit butthurt
>Not to mention he was wrong in his literal meme teir Russian conjecture about the 25 and 31
Toppest of keks.

>>151957418
>Harmless shits all over American and European aircraft
>Gets super duper buttmad when someone calls slav aircraft shit (which they are very much so)

>>151957642
He isn't very bright.
Scares me that he has control over aircraft.

>>151957015
Turns off the AoA limit so you can turn very fash but you can also staff even more

>>151957418
>>151957642
>>151957920
t.Totally not craig.

>>151958002
>Wow somebody doesn't like me
>It must be craig
Thanks for proving my point.>>151957920

>>151958002
Literally not Craig

foiled again Harmtard :^)

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>>151957418

Viktor is a traitor and therefore nothing he says is to be trusted.

Besides, I was talking about the random unsourced claim that SR71s were 400 miles into Soviet territory, not your well known quote.

besides this is all bait and bantz

>>151957642

I have literally never done that, except for your SR71 meme plane.


40 (FORTY) YEARS OF BUTT HURT

>he doesn't know when to stop
Give it a rest. Your not doing yourself any favors.

>>151958232
>Literally never done that
I mean you've proven to be full of shit with the claims of blackbirds over USSR airspace so yeah

>>151958232
>besides this is all bait and bantz
Kek every single time.
>People call slavboos out for being retarded in the thread
>It was just bantz guise.

>>151958585
>tfw he's becoming Greg tier

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>tfw when I can make people booty blasted and not even post in the thread
I'm a shitposting god.
Bow down to me.
I am shitposter, destroyer of assholes.

>>151928803

Suddenly this image makes so much sense.

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>>151959461
It was a shout out to my waifu cusTARD.
He holds me sometimes.
And then we play men of war.

>>151958232
I put down Belenko's """biography""" halfway through. The part where he realizes he knew/felt all along something was wrong with the soviet system after reading a bunch of Solzhenitsyn books the yankees brought him into this cell was VERY cringy and unrealistic IMO.

Pure yankee propaganda and I thought I'd read a good aviation book about an interesting episode of history.

good thing i didn't buy that book :^)

>>151959773
>I read the biography of a Russian defector and he said bad things about the Soviet Union that hurt my feelings so I completely dismissed it
You can't make this shit up.

>>151958232
>Besides, I was talking about the random unsourced claim that SR71s were 400 miles into Soviet territory, not your well known quote.
Nobody ever said that in this thread.
How dumb do you need to be to argue against a post that was never made?

>>151959767

>cusatard and craig sit in the TS all day and body harmtard in the thread all day.

What a life. I'm jealous.

t. harmless

>>151961167
>>151941186

?

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Yo harmless u get my leddit message?

Also Tony and harmless will u school me in the ways of the fishbed?

>>151961297
Hey buddy you okay?
How's suicide watch?

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I see now why some people may not want to play virtual plens with us

>>151961719

Yes it was comfy.
Yes we can fly sometime.

>>151961297
>Hes still going
Jesus dat booty blast.

>>151962095
I already do fly with simg and desu I dunno how much longer I'll continue

>>151963594

What are the alternates

>>151963851
abandon flight simming

>>151957982
It's more than just that. It turns off the slav vacuum tube computers that stabilize the plane and keep it flying mostly straight. When you turn it off it's sort of like turning off a fly by wire flight computer on an unstable plane.

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>>151963851
play with other friends ;)

>>151964326
Is this show any good?

>>151964326

I like the couple of people that actually fly with me in /simg/

The rest just idle in the TS and shit up the thread.

>>151964326
>tfw simg is my only option for playing flight sims

and I'm actually beginning to resent it

>>151964781

Same.
The thread is fucking garbage.
The TS is full of spergs and retards.

>>151963594
Okay then don't.
No need to be melodramatic.

>>151965249
I won't then. DCS ops are probably the most cancerous

>>151965438
Who are you?

>>151965535
I'd rather remain anonymous to save me getting memed on and becoming the new harmtard

>>151965787
It's real easy.
Don't shit up the thread with conjecture and then shit the thread up with buttblast and finger pointing when you get proven wrong.

>it's another TS is ruining this thread episode

>>151966340

So don't be craig/custard or harmless.

>>151966484
its at least an entire season at this point desu

>>151965787
>>151966340
Not like it matters who I am either way since the standard procedure in the thread is to use memes pertaining to those who've been named to disregard any argument or opinion

Dude memes lmao

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I'm sorry for shitting up the thread.

As a retarded slavboo welfare queen, I am physically and mentally incapable of not responding to obvious bait.

Can we go back to discussing simulators.

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>>151969031
>2.8

>page 10

>>151970619
Tage pen.

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>>151948176
>>151951276
Indianapolis is the most extreme example, but shark attacks on survivors wasn't uncommon at all, terrifyingly enough.
>>151950934
Phenomenal book. I still need to sit down and read the author's book about Guadalcanal.

>thread didn't die
god damnit

No.

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OPS when?!?!?!?!?!?
Also don't let it die.

>>151959767
You're rubbish at Men of War desu

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>>151976796

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>>151976164
Afaik /simg/ just had some huge afghan ops like a few days ago.

Most people are temporarily tired of huge ops for a few days I'd guess

Also I'm working on an MP campaign but it's sort of on hold since I need the VAs to send me the recordings before I proceed to finish some missions, so, soon™

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tfw you will never drop a toilet on gooks in Vietnam as a practical joke.

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>>151977847
The funniest part is the observer describing the aerodynamic behavior of the toilet afterwards

>>151977847

DCS World: Vietnam
Includes:
MiG-21
MiG-17
F-4
F-5
F-8
A-4

New Vietnam theater
Sea specific ground and naval units, including the feared SA-2.

[Spoiler]never ever[/spoiler]

>>151918348
rip chopper dave o7 ;_;

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>>151978306
>no A-1

get OUT.

NOW

>>151978306
Remove F-5 and add F-100/Mig-19

>>151959767
But you ain't playing anymore after we ravaged your butthole

>>151979324
The game ravaged my butthole.
That game shafts me every time.
>Shooting custards stug III like mad
>He one shots my tank
>Switch sides next round
>My stug III gets killed in one shot.
That game pissed me off.

>>151978130
Source?

>>151979684
http://www.eugeneleeslover.com/Humor/Toilet_bomb.html

>The flight was a Dixie Station strike (off South Vietnam) going to the Delta. When they arrived in the target area and CDR Stoddard was reading the ordnance list to the FAC, he ended with 'and one code name Sani-flush'.
>The FAC couldn't believe it and joined up to see it. It was dropped in a dive with LCDR Bacon flying tight wing position to film the drop. When it came off, it turned hole to the wind and almost struck his airplane.
>It made a great ready room movie. The FAC said that it whistled all the way down. The toilet was a damaged toilet, which was going to be thrown overboard.

>>151979619
Show me where the Comet touched you

>>151979619
Sure. It's the games fault. Fite me one on one when I get back

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>>151878173

For the tankfag pastebin maybe include a complete list of the fully modeled tanks (3D interiors)?

Finding which tanks are playable was already pretty confusing, but the new 4.0 release notes muddle things even further. So I know they added the BMP-2, but is the playable T-55 or Isreali Centurion fully modeled now?

>>151983839

Fuck I forgot to mention this is all in regards to Steel Beasts Pro PE.

>>151983839
>>151983969

I'll update it with that when I get home from work. The Shot'Kal or whatever it's called, the Israeli Centurion, doesn't have a 3D interior though, I know.

>>151984390
>Cheftian
>No 3D interior
W H E N

>>151984819

t b h the playable vehicle selection in SBPro is kind of limited

You have basically every major Abrams variant (including the IP model and the upgraded USMC model) up to the A2 SEP1 model, you have the Leopard 1A5 (Danish service model), you have the Leopard 2 up to the A5/2E. You also have the M60A3, which is actually a really fucking good tank for its age.

and then you have some versions of the T-72, none of which have the ATGM gun-launcher, and all of which are quite easily destroyed by any modern Western MBT from the front. You also have the T-62 (and maybe the T-55, don't remember if it's fully 3d or not) which are basically meme tanks because of their age.

The ruskies even kind of get fucked on the IFV side of things. the BMP is low and has ATGM launch capability, but no laser rangefinder and it's pretty easy to kill.

>>151985890
It's not a game made for Slavaboos.

>>151985890
Western armies and whatnot use SBPro for training, which explains the western vehicle selection being broader than the eastern.

>>151986021

It's not, but against M1s or Leopards in any numbers, the models of T-72 we have in the game require at least a 3:1 numbers advantage to have a chance at succeeding.

A playable T-80 or T-90 might assuage this a bit given that they're more modern tanks with actual thermal imaging systems and more modern FCS- they'd still be pretty fucking easy to kill given that they're just hopped up T-72s. Might reduce the required numbers advantage from 3:1 down to 2:1 or so.

>>151986350
As I said, it's not a game made for slavaboos. Stop complaining about the lack of playable Russian shit.

>>151986514

>most modern Western MBTs are from roughly the turn of the century

>most modern slavshit are early 80s-designs with ERA plastered all over them and laser rangefinders clumsily integrated


I'm not even a slavaboo I prefer driving the abrams and shit I'd just like to face some stiffer opposition

>>151987012
>russian defense industry literally freezes for 15 years
>why is everything from the 80's

>>151987012
Are there no American Civil War scenarios?

>>151987012
That's easily modded in. No need to make them playable.

We should honestly concider expulsions of these Russian lovers.

Be wary of the Eternal Russian. Do not forget what they did to Eastern Europe after ww2.

>>151987268

>modded in
herein we learn that you've never actually played SBpro and are legitimately just shitposting, there are already AI T-80s and T-90s in the game.

>>151987424
So what's your problem then? You should not expect abundance of Soviet/Russian stuff in games produced by western companies, and especially so European countries.

Can somebody post some bait for me please?

>>151988828
russian planes are shit

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>>151988828

>>151988990
REEEEEE

>>151989047
eh, RE

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gods plane

>>151984390

Thanks man.

Is the M1IP functionally identical to the M1A1 in Steel Beasts? Also did they add the IR searchlight for the T-72 yet?

I'm thinking of renewing my license but I also feel like holding out and see what the tanking is like in Squad first.

>>151991580
>in Squad
Seems like you'll be holding out for quite a while then

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>>151991381

Got to work ATC for some F-35C's that stopped by.

I think they look way better than the A's. The A's gear looks like fucking stilts. Really ugly.

>mfw I could see their bad ass future helmets with binocs from the tower

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>>151991957
The F-35 might be an actual meme plane as far as the US military goes but compared to the rest of the world it still blows them out of the water before they even know what's happening.

>b-but muh f-16 duels
If something has merged WVR to an F-35 then the pilot and everyone he's talking to already fucked up a while ago.

It's eerie how quiet they are.

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>>151994220
My favorite thing is how everybody who actually gets their hands on the bird to fly it and use it absolutely adores it and loves how capable it is

>>151994472
yeah im sure all those active duty airmen and lockmart test pilots have no reason to lie whatsoever

>>151995687
Yep, I'm sure they passed up on the opportunity to get an honest comparison to the capabilities of other aircraft from the people who flew them just so they could get a tiny bit of good press on their program that is already going into service.

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Can I get redpilled on the F-4?

Was it a good plane? A good idea but poor implementation? A bad idea? Right plane, wrong place?

>>151998496
>A good idea but poor implementation

This

>>151987268
>Eastern Europe

As an eastern european.

Fuck the poles, and fuck the baltics.

Bunch of nazi loving faggots, the Russians were too kind.

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>>151998496
Missiles of the era were EXTREMELY unreliable, as in one in four would fall right off the rail without igniting and their tracking was sketchy at best, and that's all the F-4 was armed with for A2A. When they finally supplemented it with a a gun-pod, before they had one built into the airframe, it was always fairly inaccurate, and went further off-bore the more G's the plane pulled, so the method was to use it's rate of fire to put a wall of rounds roughly in front of the target.

All of those kinks and angles in the airframe? Those are all bandaids for poor aerodynamics. It had monstrous power, mostly as a symptom of having to carry it's own weight, and while it maneuvered barely enough to defend itself the only thing it really had going for it was it's speed, dive and zoom capability. It also guzzled fuel like a mother fucker, but hey it was the 60's. As said by it's own pilots the F-4 is a very big, very powerful bus.

It's cockpit is both large and somehow tight, the dash and HUD feel like they're brushing the bridge of your nose.

Still want one, and my dick can't even handle the thought of a 5-BRRRRRT Phantom.

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>>151999493
unf

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>>151999493
>>151999661

Thanks senpai, I'm still learning about planes and the F-4 seems to get a lot of disparate and polarizing accounts.

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what are some good DCS youtubers? I like GrmlZGaming's stuff as it tends to be well edited and to the point while still being entertaining, anything similar out there to his videos?

>>152000482
Ralfi is the best all around and is /simg/'s favorite youtuber

>>152000482

Bunyap's videos are slow and boring as shit but I love the sound of his voice. Very calming. I watch his channel for his DCS news videos.

>>152000616
Magz is a close second.

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>>151999950
Keep in mind that the F-4 was designed to fly far & fast to shoot down Soviet bombers, it was never meant to dogfight because the thinking at the time was that missile technology made such combat obsolete. It's pilots weren't even trained on fighter maneuvering & tactics, which was why they had such terrible losses over Vietnam in the beginning. Those experiences are literally the reason why Top Gun was created and why every American fighter since then has had a gun.

It was big and heavy, but it could also egress practically at will and nothing even had a chance of outrunning it until the Mig-25 ten years later.

After maturing both the plane and the tactics it became an excellent multi-role fighter, it's still the only aircraft ever used simultaneously as the mainstay of all 3 of the USA's armed forces branches. A ton of NATO countries used it like they do with the F-16 and F/A-18 today.

Also fun fact, the land speed record set (and still held) today buy the Thrust SSC was powered by a Phantom's J79 engines.

>>152000482
Pickinthatbanjo has some great videos on some neat things you can do in DCS, systems & tactics, tutorials, and has a silky smooth southern voice that's like thick chocolate mousse with a glass of iced tea.

>>152000920
>>151999493

Like the MiG-21, the F-4 Phantom like a plane an ork would build, but even faster.

why isn't it a module yet, holy shit.

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>>152000920
Did the US have any dedicated air superiority fighters at that time?

It's my understanding that planes like the F-105, which were designed to be fast penetration bombers, got co-opted to other roles. Was it the same for the F-4, where it got pressed into service fighting migs for air superiority when it was never meant to do so? Or did designers believe that such a missile platform was the way to secure air superiority ?

The F4 has such an odd shape, with angles which I've never seen duplicated. I'd be interested to know how this band-aids the aerodynamics.

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>>152001602
Oh god that's a model, I'm an artard

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>MiG-29 PFM not expected in 2016

wow

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>people will always hate your planefu because a bunch of lazy bananamen/spics won't fix the damage model

>>152002497
I just goes to show you that french things shouldn't be added in any game ever.

because baguetteaboos are worse than natoboos, slavaboos, and weebs combined

>>152001602
It was designed as an air to air fighter, but the military did indeed have such confidence in missiles that they didn't even consider dogfighting would ever happen, so it was a massive shock when they discovered that missiles were not only unreliable but could be defeated, and their pilots had no idea what to do when their missiles failed. There's still a running joke today that goes they're called miss-iles, not hit-iles. Aero-fixes like those are deigned to counteract specific flight problems mostly with high AoA; For example the reason why the wings are canted near the ends is because wind tunnel testing showed that there was high roll instability in flight, solving which required that the wings have a 5 degree dihedral instead of being flat. But to save having to redesign the entire center section, they just bent the outward quarters enough to average 5 degrees across the span's length. The notches in the wings counteracted pitch-up during high AoA. It has a long keel because the tail had to be kept short to fight Carrier requirements, and as such it had poor directional stability due to the smaller tail, hence why it's tailplanes are angled to that triangle in the rear.

The AoA issues coming from fouled air moving over the tail surfaces are a lot of the reason why fighters have a high mounted wing, and it's especially important on carrier aircraft due to the high AoA landings & takeoffs.

>>152002690
I don't even like other French planes that much.

I just like delta-meme.

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>>152002690
va te faire foutre!

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>Eventually

>>152003969
anyone else think the Hornet's profile is goddamn hideous?

I still love it, but she ain't a pretty bird.

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>>152002690
The Gazelle's not bad. The flight model has been improved a good bit (though it's still lacking "light on the skids") and the systems modelling is well done, as far as I can tell

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>>152004175
I'd posit that the A-10 is uglier

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>>152004175
I think it depends on the angle, it's about 50/50.

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Side note, the C-17 is still fun. It handles like an easier-to-fly 747

>>152002413
what else do you expect from lazy slavs?

>>152004503
A lot of it is perspective, yeah. The photos of it I gag at are usually the ones taken from rear/side-aspect and on the same level or a bit below the plane.

Shots from the front, even if at a diagonal angle, make it look a lot better, especially if the camera's situated a bit above the plane.

>>152004479
I was mostly talking about fighters, but yeah, the A-10's kind of bad as well. I understand why the tailplane and its engines are the way that they are, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

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>>152004175
looks pretty damn aesthetic to me desu

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fronts are always best

>>152000482
You named the only DCS Youtuber I watch anymore.

>>151999661
>Morning sir, what ordinance would you like for today's sortie?
>Gunpods
>Alright we'll put one of those on, what else do you need?
>I already told you. gunpods.
>but sir
>GUNPODS!
>y...yes, sir.

>>152003203
thanks for the read, answers my questions

how did you learn this stuff?

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Not enough slav planes in this here thread.

>>152005904
simple, he designed it

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>>152005405

[never ever's internally]

>>152006256
are those bombs? on a mig25? whhhy?