/simg/ - Simulation Games General

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9xkxwSwJBs

This is literally the greatest aviation video I've ever seen.

My slav nuts are literally quaking. Doesn't get much better than this.

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>>151593547
Holy shit this is good.

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>>151593547
Great video, tovarisch.

>>151592945#
I never understood that one myself.
Everyone only flies the FC3 version of Mig-29 and the SU and is all like
>OMG DCS IS SO REALSTIK JUS LAIK FLYAN THE REAL THANGG
I mean I don't care what you fly but at least admit that the russian planes that are being flown take less skill than war thunder.

>>151594565

bait

>>151594565
you need to step up your bait game senpai

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>this is unironically Russia's next MBT

nigga why

I mean it's kind of neat that it has an unmanned turret, but it's so fucking tall and it has angles on the turret face that would be weakened in a hull down position (and it looks like the Ruskies still haven't gotten past the no gun depression meme)

>>151593547
>2:21
is that footage of an F-15?

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>>151594997

Speaking of angles on turret faces, what the fuck is up with the turrets on all Leopard 2s starting with the A5 model? Wouldn't that wedge on the front serve as something of a shot trap?

And it extends so fucking far out I'm surprised we don't hear of more headless German tank drivers

>>151594997
>Russians
>Hull down

Write an angry letter to uralzavod, and tell them how you know better.

>>151595343
are shot traps even all that relevant still to modern MBTs?

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>>151595385

I'd never really considered Russian armored doctrine, yeah. What even is their strategy nowadays? I assume we're beyond the whole Fulda Gap Rush with thousands of shitty but expendable tanks thing.

And shit like pic related shows that ultimately even a sound tank design can be foiled by a shitty crew.

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The MiG-25PD was the latest version of the MiG-25 as an interceptor.

After a long night of research, we have finally figured out where the SPO was in the PD.

As you can see in this image, there is no SPO at all. We looked through every picture of the cockpit you could find. (The missing instrument is a clock)

There were cockpits that did have the SPO-10, even some with an SPO-15, but none of those had radar scopes. And because the MiG-25 has no hud, it means they are not interceptor variants. Most of them were R's and RB's.

Then there are the cockpits with a radar scope, but no SPO's to be seen.
How was it possible that the interceptor variants of the MiG-25 had no RWR at all??????

(1/2)

>>151595617
I'd say their doctrine is still pretty much the same, but now supported by more artillery and better protected tanks that can take hits.

And sitting still on the modern battlefield is a one way trip to a burning tin can, i mean just look at syria.

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>>151595735

(2/2)

The answer? This fucking image right here.

This might be the rarest fucking image on the internet.

The SPO-10 was literally bolted to the side of the cockpit.

Finally, the answer to "Are the Soviets dumb enough to not give their interceptors any sort of RWR at all?" is not quite. They were smart enough to bolt it on last second.

TL;DR MiG-25 FUCKING WHEN??????????

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>>151595885
The mig-25s """""""""HUD"""""" is attached from the top of the cockpit strut and hangs upside down.

>>151595805

Not really. A good battle position can give monstrous tactical advantages if leveraged properly- and one aspect of a good BP is the ability to go hull down within it and retain ability to fire at the enemy.

Modern tanks are too accurate to simply outrun their gunners, every modern MBT has a lead-computing FCS

>>151596034
>Modern tanks are too accurate to simply outrun their gunners, every modern MBT has a lead-computing FCS

And your point is?
A moving target will still be harder to hit then a stationary one, and the biggest threat to modern tanks is from ATGMs, which aren't that good at hitting moving tanks as they roll past houses and go up and down with the terrain.

>>151596275

A moving target has to maintain sightlines to the enemy to be able to shoot it, which means it's likely exposing itself quite a bit. Movement will also draw more attention to it, reducing the likelihood that it will get a shot off without being seen.

Going hull down covers all but the tank's best armor and severely reduces the tank's silhouette. Even better, if a tank is positioned so that it is completely hidden in a turret-down attitude so that the commander can still scan from the cupola but keep the tank hidden, he can find a target, drive the tank forward into a hull-down position for just long enough to fire on a target, then return to the turret-down position and relocate.

Just sayin', the ability to go hull-down is very important.

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>>151595885
>Finally, the answer to "Are the Soviets dumb enough to not give their interceptors any sort of RWR at all?" is not quite. They were smart enough to bolt it on last second.

>>151596514
Yeah, i getcha.

But then why can't he armata hull down?

It's about as tall as an Abrams, maybe slightly more, but only because of the cameras, the turret is unmanned, reducing the risk of crew getting hurt, and the gun has a bigger traverse range than previous Russian tanks because of the bigger turret.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPMDCJrRpT8

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>>151596647

It can, but Russian tanks are notorious for having shit gun depression (as in, travel under the horizon line). The Armata looks to be similar- the turret is mounted quite far back on the tank and the gun is quite low on the turret, meaning it will hit the front of the hull fairly early.

Compare to the Abrams with a more centrally-mounted turret and a gun mounted slightly higher on that turret.

Of course this is purely conjecture, the Armata may have stellar gun depression for all I know.

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>The Armata has a fucking radar
>The actual external shape of the turret is mostly just a cover to lower its RCS

stealth meme is becoming so prevalent even tanks are getting in on it

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>>151596803
They likely had to deal with the gun position, because the design required all the crew to be in the hull, and you wouldn't exactly put the crew behind the turret.

https://aw.my.com/us/news/general/vehicles-focus-t-14-armata
If this shit is to be trusted, it says +14/-7
And the abrams has -10, so not as good but i guess in desging they also said "BLYA turret is unmanned we can deal with a bit of loss in gun depression.

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Why do you play DCS? no bait
I like it for the AESTHETIC, despite it being a frustrating game.

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>>151597668

There is legitimately no better game for helicopters

I mean sure plenty of games have better ground damage modelling and more interesting vehicle selection but DCS has the best flight modelling for helos of any game I've ever played

>When you are trying to learn how to fly a tu-22m3, but the instructor is having none of your shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=clLvMRMrhbo

>>151598061
>Russians after a successful sortie
https://youtu.be/tRtKFTErdCk?t=249

>>151598147
go to 4:10 forgot linking to a certain time doesn't work on 4chan

>simg - russian circlejerk

This slavaboo shit is really starting to disgust me. I had no quarrel with you faggots in the past, but literally EVERY post in this thread is about a Russian plane.

The MiG-25 is a fucking ghetto plane.

>>151599267

baiting doesn't work if you can literally just scroll up to see it's false

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>>151599250
>>151599267

The mig-25 is literally a fast mig-21, who would've thought?

navy seals movie night when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS00wOAZNxg

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>>151599668

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Here are some tea planes to offset the slavaboos.

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>>151600383

>>151600383
Rest in piece, Jaguar sama

Sepecat Jaguar when?

Just a heads-up lads, Steel Beasts is selling time-limited licenses again it seems

Still wish they'd come down a bit on their unlimited licenses, especially considering you have to buy upgrades every major version, but w/e I guess there aren't any other tanksims worth a damn with modern tanks anymore

>>151599329
>if i call dissenting opinions bait i will win the argument
Why are there no bms ops anymore? Is it because you retarded kids can only fly your shitty FC3 planes?

ITT

A bunch of neet neckbeards telling world powers why their modern tank design is wrong

>>151601201
No helicopters.
Only f-16s.

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>>151601201

How good is the Universal Visiblity mod when it comes to spotting ground targets? I could find a Leopard 1a3 in the middile of the field with the su-25's Mercury pod on

>>151601339
F-16 is a good ass aircraft though

>>151601201
And here we see the retard bring it full circle. /simg/ shitposting is back to retarded BMS elitists shit talking DCS for seemingly no good reason.


kys

>>151602861
to each their own, I hate FBW aircraft, it's the reason I got rid of the Mirage, you just can't 'feel' the aircraft as well.

>>151603017
You are not claiming DCS takes more skill than BMS are you? You baka.

OKAY BEFORE THIS GETS OUT OF HAND AGAIN:

>DCS
Made by a business that depends on money. Therefore everything is piss easy so kids can buy modules with their moms credit card and have fun in peeveepee.

BMS
Not a business. Made for autists who enjoy flying.


There we go.

>>151603017
I can understand him shittalking FC3 honestly. Your post is a case of 'he doesn't like what I like'
>>151603102
The F-16 IS factually a more in depth and complicated aircraft then anything we have in DCS at the moment, so of course it's going to be harder then anything DCS has to offer. Also, the BMS multiplayer community has the best pilots virtual simulation has to offer, so there's that.

>>151603017
DCS F-16 would be easier than BMS, BMS has AIDS

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>bms ops happened yesterday and the day before yesterday
>taking the bait

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xopoшo!

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>>151595885
Fun fact, that image is not from a MiG-25PD, it's from a MiG-23M or ML like pic related. I've never seen an image of a 25 cockpit with the SPO-10. The Soviets didn't seem to think it needed one given it's role.

I read accounts of export models and a handful of late model MiG-25PDs from 1983 having ECM & SPO-15 installed but I've never seen a picture.

>>151603317
>I can understand him shittalking FC3 honestly. Your post is a case of 'he doesn't like what I like'

>Not liking what i don't like
>But not liking what i like is not ok

Wew lad.

Also BMS changes the sensitivity of the aircraft to joystick inputs when refueling to make it easier, also doesn't have damage modeling, also f-16 only.

>>151603409
Was it announced here? I haven't seen bms ops being announced anywhere.

>>151603835
>Also BMS changes the sensitivity of the aircraft to joystick inputs when refueling to make it easier
Literal lies.

>>151603782
Where's the radar on that thing?

>>151603835
>Not liking what i don't like
>But not liking what i like is not ok
I noticed that as well, but I don't want to give him any (you)s
Fucking retarded bait poster cant even keep his bait straight.

>>151603401
What a nice argument you have here, oh no wait it is just a load of shit.
This is why no one takes DCS fags serious.

>>151603401
Of course it would be easier. The whole point of dcs is to be easy so people think they are hot shit.
Just look at the people in this thread
>waow dood that kill was amazing my ballz are so round right now
>we da pvp kangz in our realstic fc3 plenes

>>151604004
>implying we would want you in bms ops after throwing your toys in the thread
no thanks

>>151604005
Radar on the MiG-23ML and onwards was projected on the HUD ala MiG-29.

>>151604085
It would be a realistic recreation of the plane not fucking final fantasy 7 with laser guided bombs

>>151604196
>My plane is more realistic than your plane.

cancer.

who's flying?

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>>151604292
>DCS is more realistic because MUH SEKRIT DOKUMENTS )))
Jesus you can't honestly be this fucking dense can you?

>>151604383
i can

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>>151604227
>>151604005
Scratch that, ALL MiG-23s M and onwards had the radar & IRST on the HUD.

The only that didn't was the MiG-23S which was a shitty pre-production variant with MiG-21 avionics.

I still think its unbelievable that Greg flies with a PS3 controller. How does he do it?

>>151604703
the kebab have very odd ways of flying

>>151604703
You could fly dcs with m/kb and it would still work fine. Same for all the other arcade games out there.

>>151604750
He flies BMS pretty damn fine too, though.

DCS is so good I could fly the space shuttle in it and it would allow me to get into the actual space shuttle and fly it

I couldnt fly a cessna in BMS because its so fucked up and buggy

>>151604794
exactly, all other arcade games

>>151604703
t.greg

>>151604847
He's alright with the ww2 aircraft and helicopters too though

>>151604703
He has it setup like an RC plane controller. Once you get used to it you can fly it just like normal.
I bet if he switched back to a normal stick he would feel a little awkward for a bit.

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@151604837

>>151604931
Newfag

>>151604952
It is actually a shitposting technique that originated in the /csgo/ threads.
Guess he hooked you.

>>151604794
>>151604873
This.>>151604893

>>151605769
What is harmless' steam name?

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>>151606415
ask him in teamspeak

>>151606519
Nice try Ivan, I won't enter your wicked realm.

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>>151606745
I'm WAT

>>151593547
ЦУM HOT

>>151593547
Shit that's some great footage.

>>151595535
I remember wondering the same thing, because modern MBTs seem to have really bad shot traps, but the explanation I recall is that it's just not relevant anymore. I think it was because modern kinetic rounds shatter if they don't penetrate or something and that they don't ricochet like the old WWII shells. Don't quote me on that though because I'm honestly not sure. Maybe the resident tankfags know, because I'm curious as well.

>>151597668
The main reason is honestly just because MP more accessible than BMS and I prefer playing MP games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgjFX8z0e8M

Check out this comfy late 70s F-15A cockpit and HUD footage over west germany

>>151603017
>back to retarded BMS elitists shit talking DCS
I very seriously doubt that any BMS players are doing the shit talking. It's just a bunch of shitposting and you should ignore it. Nobody I know that plays BMS doesn't also play DCS.

I'd rather have retarded muh slavaboo, frogposting, and BMS vs DCS shitposting than TS drama though. It's by far the lesser of two evils.

>>151609817
I'd say that modern penetrators fly too fast, and that they'll either bury them selves in the armor, or in can case of a glancing hit, they'll shatter purely from the speed, if they don't shatter, the ricochet will cause them to lose enough speed and/or come in at an angle that wont really do any damage to the tank.

But this is a completely uneducated opinion.

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>>151610330
You can actually hear the pilots blowing hot cum everywhere with how aesthetic they're being

Any reason why sometimes LGBs just don't guide in BMS?

I put the laser to combat mode and to arm, master arm on, TMS up for IR track on TGP, wait til it passes the loft cue then release at the second CCRP cue

half the time it flashes for lasing but there's no detonation, and this is level from 15,000 feet wtf m8

>>151612778
Don't you have to half press the trigger for laser?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMyq95XWDy0

robert mugabe sends his regards

>>151612778
I recall having a similar odd issue and it ended up being that I was skipping a step even though I think I was doing everything you said. I wish I could remember exactly what it was.

>>151612959
lasing occurs automatically everytime.

>>151612778
>>151613238
Shit, I just remembered what it was. I forgot to set the LASER ARM to ARM. It was really embarassing, but yeah that was the issue.

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Will we ever get pic related in DCS?

>>151616891
tomorrow

>>151616891
Listen I get it, it's an interesting plane.
But why would you rather have a meme plane that barely existed and was meant to fly intercontinentally fly in DCS where there's no nuclear employment and we are limited to the Caucasus.

>>151623350
I think that DCS should have everything

All they have to do is make the pilots zombies and call it zombie pilot simulator and it will get 1 million sales overnight like dayz did for arma

then they can scale up their staffing by 10,000 times and it will just be like CMANO with every plane and vehicle modeled with a world map

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B52 ops WHEN

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>>151626884
I'd love more big planes in DCS. I think having a B-52 and Tu-95 would be og af especially if there was multicrew. Sure it may not be as exciting as fighters but it would be pretty comf.

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>>151626884
NEVER EVER

>>151625569
Or they could go the bohemia route, the creator goes to climb mount everest, and the rest create a shitty unfinished piece of shit, that has stupidly implemented """""""future"""""""" equipment.

>>151627743
I have no idea what BIS was thinking with ArmA 3, the equipment looks like shit, the game's armour system was shit making 7.62mm the only viable round. They still haven't bothered with helping online run smoother either. Shitty fucking devs.

At least Operation Flashpoint could run with 100 players in PvP, I don't think ArmA3 could achieve that these days without trouble.

>>151628258
Base Arma is pretty shit
But modded arma is pretty okay, mods are literally the only thing that makes arma worth playing.

Overall Arma is still pretty shit though.

>>151628258
I don't know either. their future designs are completely horrible and unviable, they aren't even cool looking, they are just all around terrible.
Not to mention that their """""future"""" involves ww2 technology with a lot of hexagons.

When all they had to do was go and copy Ghost recon advanced war fighter and the previous ones for near future stuff.

That's just the art style, the coding side of it is absolutely horrific, hell even the DCS engine prior to EDGE was better optimized.

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>>151593547
nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=175&v=ca6ARA4V0v4

BMS OPS
GET IN DISCORD NOW

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>>151601083
if we're lucky maybe within this decade

>>151631383
OH MY GOD ALL THOSE FLANKLETS
YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE ME CUM.

>>151631789
Since when do we have a discord

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>>151631909
Razbam has it planned.

>>151632232
we dont

>>151632250
Thank fuck, I'd cry if VEAO ever got near it.

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>>151631909
The jaguar kind of looks like a samurai with those airbrakes

>It's a Jack gets mad at people going vertical episode

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How advanced is an F/A-18C compared to the vipers in falcon bms?

>>151635625
classified

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>>151628893
But the "future tech vehicles" are not future
Ifrit is the zil punisher
Hunter is pic related
A 164 is just a a10
And etc

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Anyone for BMS?

Get in TS and we'll get something fragged

>>151634372
don't violate your probation Greg we might have to get rid of you again

>>151632419
I don't have any VEAO products, what's wrong with it?

>>151637868
Basically they are the shittest dev.
They have 1 module, a trainer called the hawk.
The flight model has consistently been bad and only recently have they 'fixed' it. (It's still awful)
The texture work looks like it's out of FSX
They have a huge lineup of aircraft but they can't even get this simple little trainer right.
They consistently get defensive whenever anyone gives them criticism and they have a "Well like YOU could do better" attitude.
They tried milking even more cash out of the hawk with the PFM

Basically noone knows why they are still a 3rd party dev literally their one easy as fuck module is still a piece of shit after like 2 years.

>>151636857
Why not the discord?

>>151638365
Yeah i feel bad for the people that got the hawk

>>151638756
Discord is for fagets

BMS OPS COME TO TS

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>>151638756
We use teamspeak for OPS there is not discord.
If there was nobody would use it anyways.

>>151639367
TS is for furrys
:^)

>>151639694
which ts? the furshit one?

>>151640463
yes

>>151640504
No thanks

>>151640675
You realize we're never gonna switch, right?

>>151640675
the furries arent even here

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>>151640675
>implying anyone gives a fuck

>>151641394
only stimpak would do something that dumb
how the fuck do you do that?

>>151640783
t. cephaids

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i want to fly AV-8Bs against the chinese mainland circa late 80s

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http://www.matrixgames.com/products/640/details/Command.Live:.You.Brexit%2C.You.Fix.it!

Look at this shit

Some kuckold CMANO dev, probably a swede is venting his butthurt by making a whole fucking DLC about how Brexit will end the world via Russians invading Europe and the follow up DLC is going to be one called 'no brexit, no problem' where the Russians invade but you're way more powerful because britain didn't vote to leave some shitty anti-white commie state

do these people not realize the EU has nothing to do with defense

>>151635625
They should be very, very similar.

>>151646161
It's fucking stupid and I don't know what idiot came up with the idea. NATO is seperate from the EU for god's sake. Not even interested in that whale killing sim.

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>>151646161
>Some kuckold CMANO dev, probably a swede is venting his butthurt by making a whole fucking DLC about how Brexit will end the world via Russians invading Europe and the follow up DLC is going to be one called 'no brexit, no problem' where the Russians invade but you're way more powerful because britain didn't vote to leave some shitty anti-white commie state
As a bong i am kek'ing as high as i can that these cucks would go this far

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ASW ops WHEN

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>>151650590
N E V E R

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>>151650590
We could do dangerous waters. It has pvp, multi crew, and cool sonar pinging noises.
DW OPS WHEN????

>>151606415

new phone
who this

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>page 10
A more modern budget fighter aircraft WHEN

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FER DA HAWGGG

>>151657540
Literally give us cold war shit.

Dumb Euros want super duper MFDs and sensors out the ass but relevant people know that cold war shit is the dankest OG stuff.

>>151657653
FEAR DEH DAAAWWWWGGG

>>151657915

This.

In terms of age, we have the oldest Soviet fighter I'd want in the MiG-21, and the last 2 that we will ever get with the MiG-29 and Su-27

Just about anything in between those two I would fucking kill for right now.

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>you either get a radar
>or you get SPO
>cant find any pictures of a MiG-25 cockpit that has both

damn

>>151657915
oi m8 im a euro and i know this

it's just no taste shitters who only want 4th gen because they just want virtual kills not a sublime flying experience

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GIVE
US
FULL
FIDELITY
SLAV
PLANES
YOU
FUCKING
CUNTS
DO
YOU
NOT
LIKE
MONEY?!

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>>151667408
Alright I guess you're an alright euro.
Literally anything past like 1987 shouldn't be in this game, they should work towards cold war planes.

I want steam gauges not MFDs, fuck off with your screens you cunts.

>>151668974
The A-10A is 1977 so you do have a few MFDs to mess with

>>151669348
A-10A doesn't have MFDs silly

Just a big CRT to target your AGM-65s

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>>151669348
Yeah the A-10C is when they put the MFDs in and that wasn't until the early to mid 2000s when they upgraded A-10As Pic related is what the A-10As cockpit looks like.

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>>151668647
>"We've heard your grievances for more non-NATO aircraft, and for greater fidelity of the existing aircraft brought over from Flaming Cliffs 3."
>"Well, we wanted to keep our development of a full-fidelity Russian aircraft secret for a surprise, release, but we think the time has come."
>"Announcing from ED, the full-fidelity module for DCS: Yak-130!"

>>151670412
Cool now i can pretend to be a Su-27 while pretending to fly a plane.

>>151669578
>>151670191
Oh well sorry then we dont have any MFDs

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>>151670412
Don't play with my emotions like that you sadistic fuck.

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>Custard and Jack spend 3 minutes making fun of me for flying low with full burner in the F-5 after taking off
>they both get BODIED by MiG-21s exactly as predicted
>only F-5 left alive has to deal with shit missiles and 2v1
>Custard is so mad he bans me from TS
>mfw

>>151671340
Nobody likes you Raptor.

LNS nerfed the R-3R so that it sucks like it's supposed to. That's no question a good thing, but I miss my super missile.

>>151671340
>it's a Raptor takes 20 fucking minutes to start his plane, by which time the MiGs have arrived at the blue airbase.

he couldn't even autostart it mang, how is that possible

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>>151671442
>>151671586

>we need to fly low and fast and spread out
>haha no let's fly slow in formation
>blames someone else

>>151671718
>"what's a generator?"

>"I have to turn my fuel tanks on?"

>"fuel flow manfunction? what??"

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>>151671892
>damage control

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Raptor is literally worse than the furries.

How can one man be this annoying and autistic?

>>151672130
At least Furries can start the fucking plane you whiny retard

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>>151672179
>raptor is literally100% correct about everything
>being this salty about it

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>>151671442
>>151671586
>>151671892
>>151672179
>>151672357
Guys I think for our next MiG21 vs F5 sortie we should all take full loads and fly in a tight formation since it keeps working so well

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I wasn't even in the sortie and I can confirm that raptor is a autistic babby.

>>151673859
post more cute anime grills

>The dudes name is F22xRaptor
>people are surprised that he's autistic.

>>151675620
This Kek

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whatever senpai, next time I'm flying a MiG if you retards are too dumb to change tactics after getting fucking bodied not once

NOT TWICE

BUT THREE

TIMES

>>151673859
Next time we'll leave you on the fucking ground as you struggle with the easiest startup in the game

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>>151675620
basically this

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Sometime to light up the mood

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>both F-5s BTFO within 10 seconds of each other
>only survivor manages to survive for 5 minutes against two MiGs and gets cucked out of a kill due to 9Ps
>haha that guy is so autistic he should've been in formation with us so he could die immediately too
treat yourselves

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>>151676394
tfw someone posts one of your dank ass webms.

>>151677054
They are very good my friend)))))

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>>151676394
>>151677054
>>151677142
choppers r dum

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How does one git gud at this sim?

>>151677432
choppers body jets
>what more do you want

>>151676512

>fighting OG boys when they are in migs

what did you think was gonna happen

>>151677715
You Play It

>>151677715
I did

Most of the time I'm just oblivious to what's going on in the T-62 quick action mission and I quickly get removed by shit I can't see 80% of the time

>>151678023
meant for
>>151677865

>>151677715
reading something about real life tactics helps with their games since the ingame tutorials are almost non-existent

>>151593547
>god's plane so good slavs put it in their nostalgia jerkoff montage

>>151678156
>>151678023
one way i took to get better was to sit in the comm seat and just always keep watching for anything that moves after that i would check the map if my target was not a friend i would slug a HEAT and see if a bomb went off
>muh strats
if you want to really train look up a few RL books or do >>151678203

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Hello page 10 I am a /simg/

>>151682479
fucking hosed

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This evening's BMS Ops, shortly before being memed and leaving.

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>>151684262

BMS screen shots are fun because formation flying in that game is so fucking good.

I had so many awesome ones of like 8 of us, but i reformatted so I lost all the screenshots.

Formation flying in DCS is better now that the netcode is actually much better, but BMS will always be better.

>>151684380
Somebody explain to me why the netcode in BMS is so good and formation flying looks smooth and real as fuck.

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>>151677715

Use terrain to your advantage. Remember that, when unbuttoned from the commander's hatch, you can see targets that cannot see any part of your tank. Keep your vehicle in the low ground, try to keep hard cover (as in, hills and such) between the enemy and the hull of your tank. When fighting the enemy, keep your front armor presented to him- don't do any fancy angling shit like you might do with a WWII tank, your armor is at its best when you present the direct front of your vehicle to the enemy. The front armor of your turret can usually survive hits, even from sabot rounds- it's also worth noting that the T-62 has the best sabot round in the game, with the M60A1 you should really be concentrated on putting HEAT on target.

When attacking, if at all possible you should be sending infantry ahead of your armor. Infantry is much more difficult for enemy armor and AT weapons to engage and they can give you a rough idea of where enemies are and what threat they pose. Make your attack accordingly, and remember that tanks fight best in groups.

When firing from hull down position, unless the enemy is at extreme range or is being engaged by units closer to them than your own tank, it's best to fire once, retreat to full cover, then find a new firing position. I also recommend handling all gunnery yourself- the AI gunner is shit and the AI commander is better at finding range than you are. In the M60A1, you can override the gunner with the numrow 5 key and aim and fire with the same sight that you use to find range, you cannot do the same in the T-62 however.

>>151687984
Because they've had something like 20 years to git gud at it.

>>151687984
It uses like 10 times as much bandwidth as DCS.

>tfw no sim pilot bf to backseat slut for

MIG21 VS F-5 OBS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW

GET IN TS

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>>151690828
>tfw when no dood to ralph
>tfw when no devil dog dick inside me

>>151689980
I struggle to believe that; I can actually connect in BMS.

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When they say
>Okay the op is done
and you have the last 20 seconds to make your move.

Started up the Mig-15 for the first time and did a quick flight

Is the Mig-15 a good primer for the Mig-21? I'm waiting for the next sale

>>151677715
>>151688020

Should I get this game? I really enjoyed T-72 Balkans on Fire but that was a relatively simple game.

Looking at the gameplay of this the UI and controls look rediculously complicated, which dosen't quite make sense since the tanks modeled seem pretty basic.

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>>151700894
It's well known & documented that Slav game devs don't understand the concept of bridges.

>playing BoS on the Wings of Liberty server
>Wage a concentrated bombing war on Russian positions
>take out the last three Russian positions within 20 minutes due to unending bombs
>result: draw

t-thanks WoL

>>151699731

Go for it. The UI looks intimidating, but most of it is actually information stuff, or buttons you'll hardly ever use because simple hotkeys do it better.

The tanks modeled aren't that simple t b h. The M60A1 has a funky rangefinder that uses two mirrors, one fixed from the gunner's sight, one which can be turned to produce a combined image in the commander's gunsight extension- the amount the mirror is turned is fed to the ballistic computer to produce a range because maths and shit.

The T-62 meanwhile has a two-plane gun stabilizer and a ballin-ass gun. Really, the two tanks modelled are the first "modern" MBTs from the US and the USSR.

Any tips on how to avoid getting a soar neck when playing racing games (assetto corsa) with a racing wheel? How should I seat myself? I have a 27 inch monitor, what should the distance of the monitor to my eyes be? Etc. Any help much appreciated.

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VERY fast banana jet flying past at incredible hihg speed

>tfw there is a possibility it arrives in DCS in this decade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ltpi28rgSU

If you are one of those, who say that currently it looks like shitty FSX freeware, let's look at how the MiG-21 looked originally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mDcF5UXxqc

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How do you like your burgers?

I like mine char-broiled.

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Pop dat thang

Steel Beasts is neat, but I'm finding it kind of lame that you basically HAVE to play it as some sort of higher-level commander. There aren't a whole lot of singleplayer missions available with the game (there's a time-trial gunnery range you can play with most playable vehicles, an instant action infinite-wave-defense mission with most playable vehicles, and a single campaign set in the Yom Kippur War), and all the user-made ones I'm finding involve a large degree of strategic command stuff.

I'm much more interested in the tactical side of things- actually fighting as the commander of an individual tank or as the commander of a small group of tanks, so this is somewhat disappointing to me.

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boomp

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webms are neat

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Modernised (1980s+) B-52G/H fucking W H E N ?
never 'cause muh boring bomber gameplay, small maps, classified systems

>>151715815

the classified systems part is a big deal tho

the B-52 is still in active service and it's a nuclear-capable SAC-asset. We won't see that shit for a looooong time.

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>>151715986
I'd love to see a Desert Storm era B-52G. Would be good for '80s WW3 scenarios, too. No nukes needed, only conventional stuff. The "G" is out of service and the remaining "H" models are modernized way further. The ECM suite would be difficult to do, because of muh sekrit dokuments))) and because DCS doesn't model that aspect properly.

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Buenos dias, amigos.

Can someone enlighten me what differences are between the USN and Spanish legacy Hornets? So I know what features we are going to miss in the eventual DCS module.

Gracias.

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You know when you do a last minute pull up from a dive, why does it seem like a turning climb pulls you up faster than a level climb or am I seeing things

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT0J2qccUA4

>>151720843
Can the B-52 even actually drop dumb bombs on a modern army in the era of S-400s?

Cause in CMANO when used in modern scenarios with GPBs its generally just mopping up after SEAD and fighter sweeps has fucked the enemies air defense

>>151720949
Well, it is supposed to be part of a strike package/combined operations, not a world-destroying uberplen...

>era of S-400s
The B-52 had always the RCS of a medium sized moon. I don't know what the latest updates do, but supposedly the ECM is extremely strong in BUFFs. You turn it on, the enemy's entire radar screen gets filled with turbid mass. They can't lock you up.

>>151721267
>They can't lock you up
That's why all modern missiles have home on jammer mode. ECM just reduce the effective range.

>>151721267
>BUFFs with ECM approach AO
>"Tovarish Commandier why is moon on radar screen?"
>"Grigori that no moon"
>"xa oh blyad'"

Is this thread okay for Wargame discussion? That general died long ago.

>>151721750
Big missiles are also starting to incorporate dual seekers.

>>151721817
Well we did kill them, so I'm gonna say no

>>151715647
Pls more turret throwing. That's my fetish.

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I knew T-72s sucked but I didn't know they sucked THIS bad

I thought I'd been hit by an RPG but it turns out a rifle-caliber MG somehow penetrated my armor

>>151723101
Shot trap X D D D

>>151723101
Wait a minute, how could it destroy the tank?

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I will now baselessly compare Steel Beasts Pro PE V4.0 to Steel Armor: Blaze of War, because they're the only two good, recent-ish tanksims that cover modern-ish vehicles.

SB is pretty good, and t b h I think it's worth the price of buying a time-limited license every now and then (I think the permanent license only actually pays off over the course of years, and you have to buy upgrades for new major versions). The physics are still kinda crap though, the terrain resolution is pretty low (as in, the smoothness of slopes and such are all very jagged), and it lacks a lot of the nice game-related things that a game like SABOW has.

For example: In SABOW, crews will bail out if their vehicle is seriously damaged, or if their morale breaks. I haven't seen a single crewman bail out in SB. Steel Beasts DOES have better damage-states and effects, though; in SABOW, you can instantly tell if a tank is knocked out or bailed out by the fact that all of its crew hatches are opened, SB doesn't have a universal "destroyed" state like that however. Instead, if the tank isn't actively on fire or exploding... you just kind of have to watch the turret and be ready to put another sabot into it if it moves. SB does catastrophic kills better, too- I posted a screenshot of an M60A3 brewing up earlier which was cool as fuck, and with some tanks (only seen it on T-72s so far) you'll see a violent puff of smoke come out of the muzzle of the gun after the tank suffers a catastrophic hit to the turret (similar to this https://youtu.be/VvuwUxaJmlo?t=56 ((0:56))), usually followed by the rest of the ammo going up. Turrets get thrown like a motherfucker, too.

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>>151725189

SABOW is better as a game- just the dynamic campaign makes that true, but it has so many more little polish points to it, like the way your tracks actually bounce and wobble on the rollers, the way that your turret rings after taking a non-penetrating hit (SB doesn't really have an interior "you've been hit" sound), the way that you can ACTUALLY SEE THE AIRCRAFT THAT ARE PROVIDING AIR SUPPORT TO YOU WHAT THE ESIM I WANTED TO SEE AN F-16 ROLL IN AND DROP JDAMS

Steel Beasts has the better vehicle selection (you can drive the T-62 in SB, and a variant of the M60, though it has a laser rangefinder and a gun stabilizer), better selection of terrain, and a more robust strategic element- you can command vehicles and troops in much more detail than you can in SABOW.

Also SABOW is technically only a survey sim (no clicky buttons) but to be frank I only use the clickable interiors in SB if I don't know the keybind for something, and otherwise both games are pretty much equal in terms of systems fidelity- they both have ammunition, armor, and overall vehicle mobility performance modeled as realistically as anyone who wasn't actively involved in the design process of the vehicles modeled could tell. That being said, the SB devs openly state that a lot of ammunition and armor performance data is based on informed guesses, as even if they did have accurate data they couldn't release it to the public.

So basically, SABOW is to SB what BMS is to DCS. SABOW has a small number of vehicles very well rendered with a good singleplayer experience, whereas SB has a large number of vehicles missing just a bit of the polish of the other game and relies mostly on multiplayer for replayability.

is anyone else here not on the spectrum

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>>151726092

You're in a thread dedicated to video games designed to let us pretend like we're real armymans flying fighter jets and driving vroom vroom tanks

you're on the spectrum too, motherfucker

>>151722147
A damn shame. Tangentially related; any sims out there that specialise in experimental weapons that didn't see production? ie cheyenne attack helo, t-30 heavy tonk, etc

>>151726175
but I'm an actual armyman and fly real aircraft

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>>151726381

Then stop pretending while someone cucks your planefu and get back out there

>>151726381
You are still on the spectrum.

>>151726381
How do we know you're not just so damn autistic that you took the role play too far and deluded yourself into believing you're legit?
IT'S ALL IN YOUR HEAD

>>151729023
>can't post aestetic letters
I forgot 4chan disallowed fun, sorry. It supposed to be nippon wide letters OK baka?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4bjWBOzEIE

fifth gen marketing is 25.7% more effective than legacy marketing.

I don't get why we're bogeyman in blue flag seeing as the thread goes to shit without our involvement

>>151732995
They need us They need Da Bois

BMS ops

get in ts

>>151736681
>Turning left or right instead of doing a loop.

>>151737937
>i played a lot of war thunder, i know what im doing

the post

>>151738269
>Trying to get retards to be less retarded

jokes on me i guess.

>>151737937
>>151738269
>>151739491
It's arguably better to do a split-s, a loop can leave you stranded and give your opponent a free shot. Turning left or right burns too much energy. Split-s conserves both energy, and keeps your speed up.

>>151737937
>>151739491
>loop
>into the merge
>in the F-5

He did as much of a loop as the F-5 is capable of without putting a giant "shoot me" sign on the plane.

>do a sick loop/immelmann
>lose all speed, gain altitude
>'wow this altitude advantage would be super sweet if I was flying a Bf-109 against a Hurricane'
>eat a missile from the other guy

>>151734048
> missing BMS
> AGAIN
Motherfucker

>>151740074
we have your schedule senpai, never again will you ever play!

>>151739825
True enough, but he's pretty low there.

>>151740074
we were doing bms ops with the 2 of us for like an hour and a half getting blown the fuck out by stronk kors in SU-30's. hang out on teamspeak so i can inform you when we're flying
>>151740213
he had enough altitude

>>151739957
>lose all speed, gain altitude

That doesn't even happen in the su-25

>>151740317
If the opponent is competent he'll just plug you with an AIM-9, and by 'lose all speed' I mean slip under 300knots, which is a death sentence in the F-5.

>>151740454
>I mean slip under 300knots, which is a death sentence in the F-5

Actually it's a death sentence to any jet fighter

>>151740454
>>151740549
Not in the su-27.

But you will be pointing your nose towards him before he does.

I mean this is how i win against you knob ends every time i do anything with pass and then engage, just pull hard go into loop.

>>151740549
Well the F-5 just doesn't have the TW to make that kind of manoeuver without either going waaay 2slow OR performing the loop in such a lazy manner as to invite your opponent to get behind you and Ralph your Dude very, very hard.

>>151740765
going under 300 knots is suicide, even for the SU-27

>>151740947
No, you're pretty close to your maximum corner speed at 300knots, the corner speed is 600-700 in the su-27

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>>151740765
>Not in the Su-27.
>webm is of an F-5

>>151741075
600-700 kmh

>>151741075
>corner speed is 600-700
14 G figher jets when?

>>151741085
>Actually it's a death sentence to any jet fighter
>Not in the su-27

Issue?

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>>151721750
That's why contemporary B-52s have stand-off weapons, tovarisch. No danger, when you are targeting slavs from outside their engagement zone.)))))

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>>151741075
No it isn't, max instantaneous =/= corner speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvf92j8a0B0

>>151741342
That's a really funny looking em graph

>>151741415
Them Russians are a prophetic bunch.

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Any CMANO players here?

I'm wondering what the best way to ground an enemy airbase is.

I destroyed both runways of an airbase but fighters are still launching. Are they able to fly off 'runway-grade taxiways'?

Can you ground the airplanes by bombing all the fuel and ammo?

>>151743908
just
tomahawk
everything

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>>151745995

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>>151747171
Jesus fucking Christ

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Systems management is legit the part about DCS modules that gives me the biggest erection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSbPqin3L6E

Complex aircraft with plenty of systems when?

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So RAF Nimrod's used to carry AIM-9 Limas

How the fuck would they dogfight and WHAT would they use them on?

>>151750091
fear the nimraaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwd

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>flying MiG-21
>use rockets to take out the remaining Blue trucks on Guadata
>Red captures Guadata
>use superior MiG-21 speed to catch afterburning F-5 and kill with the 2 R-60s I was carrying
>get in a dogfight with another F-5 but have no more missiles
>clean MiG-21s fly like dreams so I gun him down
>leave combat at mach 1.2 and 1300kph because clean MiGs are fast as fuck
>make smooth landing and watch a 3 ship of MiG-21s take off while rearming
It is a good day.

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Your little slavboo nuts are gonna start quaking.
https://youtu.be/-LMBb_jPq3w