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SVIPUL WASP edition

old thread: >>151650638
permalink: http://orph.link/eog

>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX during the trial?
If you have to ask, you can't do it.

>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then find the Career Agents & run all of their missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

>Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/ser9Acpg

>Focus Group Logs: https://focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/

Future:
>Winter: drilling platforms
>Fall: industrial arrays, barge visuals, AOE BOOST/LINK REWORK, Rorqual rework
>Oct 28: Eve Vegas
>Sep 12: CSM 11 first summit

Past:
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, damage/repping visuals, DX11 clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 26: AT prizes: covops cruor and covops armor logi ashimmu
>Jul 23: Goons moving to Delve, SMA alliance closes
>Jul 19: Broski enters QFC, Rote super salty
>Jul 18: Billboards submissions open
>Jul 07: AT 14 rule changes: 10 players, no cap-transfer, no jumpdessies, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event begins (shittiest one of the 3 so far), serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, tactical overlay vectors, new implants, legal drugs, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion give ECM immunity, mass fitting tool
>Jun 23: RIP SP dailies
>May 31: RIP old camera, new multi-use analyzers introduced
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)
>May 12: Name ships automatically with a saved fit name
>May 06: Eve Online 13th Anniversary
>Apr 27: Citadels & cap rebalance released. Tears, bugs, etc. RIP rolling yachts.
>Apr 21: https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/csm-11-election-results/
>Mar 09: Massive mod tiercides that broke a lot of fits.
>Feb 09: SP trading
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true)
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The mining barges redesign are dank as fug. Why does Proc/skiff have a second hislot tho?
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>>151844824
the turrets might go on the round things. in the middle but either way they do look pretty damn cool
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OFFICIAL LIST OF WORST TYPES OF PLAYERS IN EVE:

1. Nullsec botters/ratters/mission runners
2. Highsec botters/ratters/mission runners
3. Nullbabby napfest blobbers
4. Lowsec 'elite' link-alt slave set pvpers
5. 'hisec pvp'
6. Miners
7. Industrialists
8. Traders
9. Scammers

9001. Honorabru solo roamers

90001. Small gang NPC sov nullsec/lowsec

900001. C5-6 WH pvpers
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>>151844527
That's not an argument.
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>>151845234
Was that supposed to be meta?
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LFP fleet buffer
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What does this option "download everything" do? Wouldn't everything already be downloaded if I can boot up EVE?
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>>151846762
EVE can dynamically load content.
Make it download everything, a few details can bug out otherwise.
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>>151846762

Downloading everything helps if you think you are going into big fights because dynamic loading (the server downloads content as needed) can make you stuck in warp tunnels more often and crash when you jump into a heavily occupied server node.
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So did INRI kill the QFC?
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>>151849289
Yes. Now they gonna team up with goons.
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>>151849460

i love how everywhere goons go ends up a shithole
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Who #bestship here?

Also how the fuck does zkill calculate the snuggly is beyond me. Do people pve in dictors?
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caw
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>>151850590

gate camping is basically pve
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When did they add this?
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nice dead tread
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nice dead game
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>shield stratios
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>>151858716

nothing wrong with it
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>le ebin stunt fit amirite xDD
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>that one guy who is desperately baiting to keep /eog/ alive
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>baiting
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>We're also working on some exciting developments when it comes to PVE content in EVE...
>that I hope to be able to share with you soon
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>>151860956
Not to be a cynic or anything, but i bet it's more scope challenges bullshit
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>>151860956
incrusion nerf
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>>151858042
nice dead gif
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>guy
>he
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>>151861497

yeah they'll say the scope challenge shit was a success while the daily wasn't
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>>151862647
They said the daily was a success, but that wasn't the scope of implementation they'd have.
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>>151862827
>said the daily was a success

they said the exact opposite
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>>151844824
It looks like they're going to bonuses based entirely on the hull without tying the amount of strip miners into it. I like having only 1 miner on my skiff but meh. I imagine the skiff/proc is going to be nerfed given how strong they are now.
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>>151844824
For the neut
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>>151863241
Post it, then?

They said something like it got a lot more undocks, just not more logins. In any case, the point was that players were doing the daily.
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>>151864194
The intention was to get people logging in regularly when they weren't doing so before. It didn't achieve this.
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>>151865981
>The intention was to get people logging in regularly when they weren't doing so before
They never said this. For all we know, it was to improve sub retention.
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>have to log everyday
>great idea
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>>151866339
>have to
>implying
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>>151866148
>They never said this.

uh, yeah they did, it was to bring in new players to the game and keep people active

>>151866339

>have to
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>command ships
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>>151866483
Mai Waifu
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>not having to log in to get free sp for your alts
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>>151866454
>uh, yeah they did
Why would a bunch of 40M SP pilots log in to get 10k SP. It was for new players and maybe getting some extra undocks.
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>>151867187
>It was for new players and maybe getting some extra undocks.

which is exactly what i said
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>>151867279
Which they said was successful for the undocks and have yet to comment on fresh sub activity.

Trying to suggest it isn't a successful mechanic because it's not making SP millionaires log in is horseshit.
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>>151866483
>>151866595
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>>151867402

except they said it wasn't successful
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Daily SP rewards should make a return, but instead of a quest a day, everyone who is subbed gets 10k unallocated sp per day, but without ever needing to login nor undock.
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Everybody who doesn't log in once a day should get - SP. That would encourage people to login every day.
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>>151867624
Except, no.
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>>151868115
they said it was not
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>>151868347
Proofs where.
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>>151868515
yeah post proofs otherwise it is not an argument.
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>>151868659

Unfounded.
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>>151867645
You already get SP over time for being subbed.
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its like i'm really on /pol/
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>>151868659
>>151868515
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6539576
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>>151868898
>t. brutor
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>>151868939
"Our hope in releasing this feature was to gain insight on how direct, daily rewards might effect and improve engagement in EVE. I can't go into too much detail about results but I thought you guys might like to know a bit about what did happen after it launched. The biggest conclusions we can draw so far (though we are still gathering and analyzing data) are that recurring opportunities did have a significant effect on player activity in game."
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>>151869028
>"On the other hand, we saw very little change in login behavior, i.e. if you weren't planning to log on anyway, the 10,000 free SP boost wasn't really going to change your mind. "
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>>151869194
That wasn't a goal, as is already posted.

>>151867402
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>one argues that it was successful
>the other one that its not
>both haven't posted any proof and continue sperging in /eog/ while quoting irrelevant bullshit from CCP

Are you both from r/eve? Just curious.

Holy shit /eog/, hold me.
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>>151869560
You can be the little spoon
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>>151869336

except it was literally the exact goal
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>>151869712
>/eog/ shitposts
Come now.
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>>151869771
you mean like
>>151869560
this one
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>>151869336
why did they remove it, if the thing that it failed to do wasn't its goal
#checkmate
#riggityrekt
#balancelegion
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>>151869967

gotem
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>>151869560
CCP literally posts that it's "significantly effective".

>>151869967
You could say it's goal was to make players spend more money, but that doesn't make it a valid post or make sense. Why would they give 10k SP to veterans to log in?

>#balancelegion
Ayy.
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I think the fundamental disagreement here comes from the ultimate aims of the participants.

One participant wants to show that CCP are a garbage company that makes garbage decisions. To support this conclusion, he brings up a mechanic, points out a success that it had and a failure that it had, and claims that its goal was to accomplish what it was successful at. It follows that only a braindead retard (CCP) would remove something that was successful.

The other participant wants to show that CCP are a reasonable company that makes reasonable decisions. To support this conclusion, he brings up a mechanic, points out the success and the failure, and claims that the goal was to accomplish what it failed at. It follows that removing something that's unsuccessful is a reasonable thing to do and so CCP is reasonable.
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>>151870486
>to prove CCP is a reasonable company
>by providing miniscule rewards that no vet (the majority of the player base) would give a shit about
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>>151870229
>CCP literally posts that it's "significantly effective".

so they removed it
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>>151870486
To expand on this, just in case the implications aren't obvious -

Only CCP are able to claim what was and what was not a goal, meaning that only CCP are capable of determining if the concept was a success or a failure. Since there are no third-party checks (say, credible leaks of pre-implementation discussions), CCP is entirely capable of endorsing whichever version of events puts them in a more favorable light - so even if they did say something, there would be no reason to believe them one way or another.

To sum up, it is impossible to know without a shadow of a doubt if dailies "failed" or "succeeded", so there is hardly a need to discuss it further.

>>151870862
I can say my phone is significantly effective as a paperweight, but if I want it to make calls and it can't, I'm going to throw it away. As has already been mentioned in this thread, their use of "sigificantly effective" was in a conditional context.
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>she thinks CCP is a reasonable company
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>>151870862
When I first read that, I immediately figured in the realm of basically anything being "significantly effective". I'm sure plenty started doing it, but that percentage probably dropped intensely as players stopped giving a shit about such an insignificant reward and gameplay instigator.

That's probably why they removed it. Sitting in a 1.0 belt for 10s isn't what they're on about.
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>>151863968
>nerfing proc/skiff
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>yfw assault frigate rebalance will be +50 to hull
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>>151872112
Just merge them with ewar frigs.
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Just merge them with relevance.
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Just make them cheaper.

I can't actually attest to their effectiveness, so that might be an implausible design decision, but it's not as if they're more powerful than cruisers (which are less than half the price).
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>>151872392

maybe the navy ones sure
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>>151872728
Everything they can do, a svipul can do better.
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>I can't actually attest to their effectiveness
>wants to rebalance them anyhow

You and CCP have a lot in common, my friend.
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>>151872882
A svipul is 2.5x the cost.
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>>151872936
>nobody flies them ever
>but you should still know whether or not they're cost effective
I already know they aren't.
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>>151872953
Which is irrelevant when a svipul costs ~45 million. Which is what, half an hour of incursions, or a handful of missions?

Cost has nothing to do with balance at the best of times, when you're talking sub 50 mil, cost is less relevant that what fucking colour the ship is.
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where can i find combat without fucking my sec standing over and without jumping into a meatgrinder
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>>151873193
>Cost has nothing to do with balance at the best of times
Umm.. except nobody's going to fly a shitty ship if the price is unwarranted. Making something awful less expensive is a decent idea.

I'm not exactly sure they could balance frig, AF, T3D, and cruisers costs properly at this point.
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>>151873474

what do you mean
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>>151873474
I hear nullsec, but apparently Brave's moving and we don't know where yet.

There's probably a kills/day metric for systems somewhere.

>>151873502
* in line with their design philosophies.

..Which apparently include making frigs cost 15M.

Gotta let the newbies afford shit, CCP.
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Make AF work like the naga and co. Give them Cruiser sized guns and see how that works out.
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>>151873657

brave is a pretty bad choice atm

test or horde are probably your best best
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>test
m8
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>>151873502
If it's a shit ship, no-one's going to fly it if it costs 5 or 50 mil.
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>frigate with cruiser speed and frigate dps

wew lads, fantastic design
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short rang mjds
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>>151873904
Farming, not joining.
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>>151874107
Sure they will.

If the EVE community has too much ISK to fly cheap ships, that's not ship issue.
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>>151874021
You made me feel bad for being in TEST right now. Shit
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>>151874021

best meme

>>151874342

stainwagon then
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>>151874491
When did you last see a Cyclone used unironically?


If the ship is good, like a hurricane or a svipul, then people will fly it. If a ship is shit, like a cyclone or a wolf, nobody is going to touch it. The price is not a factor in this.
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>>151875053
Cyclone can be treated like a weaker sleip, and can fit 2 asb unlike its t2 brother
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>>151877302
>we (CO2)
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>>151874615
Can't wait for TEST to upset gigx so that we (CO2) can take your space.
It will happen. gigx is easily offended and your CEO likes to offend.
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>>151877302
But TEST have the balls to come to Delve. Do you, you backstabbing cunts?
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>>151875292
>Cyclone can be treated like a weaker sleip
hahahaha
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>>151877471

what would be the point, co2 isn't that big so they don't need the sov and we don't treat them like shit like goonfucks did
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>>151877514
My Corp does but the alliance doesn't schedule fleets there. I personally would love to go in their woth great numbers
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>>151877592
yes
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>>151877597
Tell us again how committing thousands of players for hours multiple times in 10% tidi is treating you traitors like shit?
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>>151877597
What is the point of having sov when you don't plan on expanding it? I don't really care about sov at all. I just want more big scale fights. It is way to peaceful in tribute right now
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>nullbear drama
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>>151878034
even worse, they bring it to /eog/. like anybody gives a shit what nullbabby napfest blobbers think.
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>>151878413
its at least better than pol memes, she and other crap.

still laughable how serious they take it.
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>/pol/ memes
>implying nullbears aren't the ultimate form of cucks
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>>151877769

lol, struck a nerve apparently

>>151877947

because with fozzie sov, defending shit you don't actively use is a god damn nightmare, there's really no reason to bite off more than you can chew
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>>151878034
>>151878692

lowsec blobbers assblasted
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>>151879240
guess again
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>>151879240
but you're the blobbers, that's why everyone mocks you.
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>>151879426

>implying there's anything more blobby than lowsec

please
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>>151879587
That's whats implied.
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>>151877672
Fleet cane is the weaker sleip. Cyclone is an aborted drake. It's the worst ship I had the unfortunate honor to fly.
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>>151877471
I'm not in TEST anymore :)
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>>151880585
>>151877471
Also ETANOL suck dicks
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>>151880501
>Fleet cane is the weaker sleip
where are the shield boost bonuses
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>>151880730
In the "weaker" part. I'm sure your epic ham cyclone will be a welcome addition to sleip fleets.
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>>151880868
You sure are misconstruing a lot
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>>151881189
Then don't talk about garbage ships. T2 cyclone is the claymore btw.
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>>151881343
>T2 cyclone is the claymore btw.
yes thank you captain obvious

at least the cykaclone is better than it.
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>tfw the sleipnir will never be pretty again
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>wanting the old model
Fuck off rolfos.
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>the shit taste brigade at it again
>defending flying triangles

Fuck off kreydis.
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I like both!
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>>151877769
Shhh. Everyone knows that CO2 are useless traitors.
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>>151882472
why do you take nullshit so seriously

it only makes you look salty
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>>151882589
I'm not. I just don't like traitors.I don't even live in nullsec.
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>>151883092
>traitors

sorry mittens you can't pick your friend's nose
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>>151872936
>wants to rebalance what is clearly awful and pointless

AF's haven't been touched since like 2009 and even after they were rebalanced they were in many ways weaker than T1 frigs.
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Yes?
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>>151892075

for what
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>>151892075
wheres your tank?
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>>151892347
40% resists, and frigs especially don't have 6k ehp with 500 DPS
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>>151892556
>40% resists
so?

You'd be better off with hull rigs, 5k really isn't that much for survival you might not gank the frigate in time especially if the frig has double your tank which if very much could.

dropping a mag stab for a bulkhead would increase your tank a lot and your general survivability would skyrocket
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>>151892775
>>151892556
Also other destroyers will eat you apart if they also have more tank than you. You aren't going to find a solo frig to engage a catalyst ever and you're more likely to attack other ships like destroyers
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>>151892775
>skyrocket
Not really. And the deeps are super reduced.
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>>151893303
>lose 50 DPS
>super reduced

You traded 16% dps for about 15% extra tank

That'll do you far better than a raw DPS tank. You best have extra tank its pretty imperative
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>>151893303
Try something like this, 9270 tank with over 350 cold. You're beating most frigs in the DPS and tank department and other destroyers will have to break your tank while you readily chew them through
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>>151893790
or if you're a diehard for light neutrons, this works really well too
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>>>/pol/85452439
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double rep, cap booster is so fucking op
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>>151894551
truly the epicest meme, my friendo
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>>151893790
Why the dps isn't like eft?
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>>151896074
pyfa is shit
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stabber cap is fuckery
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>undercutting on ammo by more than 0,01
biomass pls
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So I just fit a kiting corax and I'm dropping 1k volleys
i-is this normal? I thought the corax was shit
what is going on, how does this shitty destroyer have more burst than a caracal?
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>Squad commander's face when you roll up to the mining op in your festival launcher fitted drone mining Dragoon
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>>151844398
So which race is winning the meta right now? Who has the best/most useful ships?
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>>151899290
solocancer is minmatar or pirate
fleet blobfaggotry caldari
at a certain level it merges into an uniform t3c blob
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It is my sad duty to inform you that your accounts have been permanently banned from our server for making real life threats to another player. This is a serious violation of our END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT and Terms of Service.

Newbie explorator here, got banned on 8th day of trial.
Looks like my adventure with eve came to an end. It is sad that writing "im going to find your real life identity and make you pay" gets people banned, fuck this pussy society and political correctness.

Anyway the smug fuck killed me in null with 100kk loot in my heron and then bragged about it. Fuck that money i wasnt even mad because this is a game and i was flying in null sec. But he/she messaged me later to fuck with me, aint going to let that slide. Stalking machine is in full swing.
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>>151903157
its because it was trial and you had it coming
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>>151903157

>100kk
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Are you 13?
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>>151903339
26

i have anger issues, so what?
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I haven't played EVE since 2012. Played a bit of NMS and refunded it. Thinking about using that money to buy a six month EVE subscription. Good time to get back into it? My corp is probably dead though.
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>>151849289
The QFC basically begged us on ts to stop cloaky camping them, when we said no they kinda just gave up.

Join Broski.
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>>151903157
You should have turned up the whatchamajigger thingy that makes people pay to mail you to some retarded heights. That way He would have payed 100kk to mail you.

Also what is 100kk?
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>>151904676
Yes. They're dead. Join a pvp corp
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>>151906315
>>151904676
I'm mostly into PvE combat and mining. Are these doable solo if I'm not in nullsec? Don't know anybody who currently plays so I'll be by myself to start.

I'm guessing the game has fairly radically changed since I last played in 2012. If possible, could you please give me a brief rundown on major features that have changed, or point me to where I can see key features from major expansions since then?

The last major update I remember was switching to DX10 with I think it was called the "Trinity" update. The game got a fresh coat of paint and it looked great at the time. I played past that time but I don't remember what came after that.
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>>151906717
>Trinity
A lot.
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>>151906717
>pve
>solo
Might be better to buy a month instead of 6
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>>151906052
>Also what is 100kk?
You people are baiting, r-right?
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>>151906971
Why is that? Is PvE solo not viable even in secure space? I'd be milling around in relatively secure space for a while since I'm basically a newbie all over again.

I used to do missions and ratting with a buddy back in the day and with two of us it was no problem.
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>>151907426
its boring
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>>151906717

try to join one of the newbie corps for a nullsec group, it'll be the easiest way to get you back into the game
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>not joining All-Out
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,
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>>151902918
>minmatar
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>Thrasher
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ayy
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>>151911745
Gatecamping isn't solo.
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page ten.
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>>151914362
>>151912139
>>151911495
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>>151877471
quick question

in the even co2 and test duke it out if PL showed up would you say co2 would team up to fuck test or ???
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>>151878604
>she is a filthy brutor living in lawless uncivilized areas of space
kys
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>>151916801
I will live and die on the fury holes
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>she is also a furry
kys
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>>151917204
xd

a real memer
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do mi9ning laser upgrades count for strip miner too? or is pyfa fucking with me
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>>151915917
I don't know if I get your question right but Nah, we hate PL and try hitting them whenever possible and counter/bait hot drops but we won't attack any neighbor in case PL trys to slap their shit.
We probably would show up to smash some PL ships, though. If that's what you mean. No need to team up there since we're already blue to nearly anything besides PL, PH, goons.
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>your alliance flies with TEST now

I should leave, I really, really should leave.
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join half-empty

please
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How do I move shit out of null?
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>>151921253

If you have to ask then you already done goofed. Just make sure whatever you want to sell is worth more than the red-frog freight costs. You'd be talking about 300mil.
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>oneiros
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>>151918069
yeah they do
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>>151911878
>willingly flying one of the worst t1 cruisers
>>
>anything
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>>151896074
I have factor in reload time on to all my dps. While it's unlikely to hurt you in a solo battle those 5 second reloads do take out of your potential
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>>151928009
why not, beats flying svipuls
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>>151928638
>why not
Because it's one of the worst performing cruisers in the game that's why

Almost any other cruiser would be better
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>>151929436
thats the whole point of flying it, just because you can
>>
>flying
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>>151929856
fuck off kreydis
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Just got back into EVE for the first time since 2012. Currently doing the tutorial "opportunities" in a Megathron Navy.

>mfw I completely forgot how to play and have no idea what I'm doing
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>>151930662
Opportunities aren't tutorial, ignore and hide it.
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>>151929605
You asked why not, you didn't ask for reasons to fly this ship

The fact that it has wicked performance issues in terms of range, application and, dps are all reasons why not to do it
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>>151931357
it was a rhetorical question, holy fuck dude

the reasons you listed are exactly why to fly it
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>>151931229
seconding this - you really don't need opportunities, they are for new players who aren't going to be aware of the different gameplay *opportunities*.

and you're a liar your megathron is clearly not dual tanked enough for being a bad.
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>>151931659
>and you're a liar your megathron is clearly not dual tanked enough for being a bad.
This is what I appeared in when I logged in. It had me in 1.0 space with the tutorial opportunities telling me how to target enemies and what-not. My guns couldn't hit the little fuckers so I just wasted my cruise missiles on little tiny rats to complete the tutorial stuff.

No idea what I'm doing and idk what "dual tanked" even means.
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>>151932072
It means putting armour and shield tank on the same ship.
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>>151932072
Try refitting your ship to something like this. Just carry Lead and antimatter for ammo.
http://imgur.com/a/c3yJy
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Just end it already
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>le game needs millions of players argument
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>le
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>http://www.rusemen.com/
What did they mean by this?
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>>151933949
>Eve is dying
>Eve playerbase is declining
Wowe wat a le originale meemay
Seriously kill yourself
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>>151931229
Gotta agree with that. The opportunities suck ass and I'm glad I started when Aura was still in effect because that was the closest thing to a tutorial which this game has.
>>
>she thinks EVE dying is a meme
It's real. We are there.
>>
>pandemic horde
>>
>new player experience
>>
>Oracle
>>
>she
I dont like this meme.
>>
>old player entitlement
>>
>she thinks it's a meme
>>
>>151931527
>the bad attributes are reasons to use it

Aka you're fucking retarded
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>>151940192
>t.svipulfag
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>dual rep kiting omen
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>that one guy who doesn't fly bad ships
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>if you don't fly shit ships you must be a svipulfag
nice logic

>>151941378
haha fun whelp roam xD
>>
>guy
>>
>whelp roam

t.orthrusfag
>>
>fag
>>
brawling muninn
>>
Doomsdayed Orca
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>xD
>>
truly ebin
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>Moomin buff never
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>heavy assault ships
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>>151942229
>I'm poor
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Post Merlin fits
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>t2
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>>151942386
bulkheads
>>
Whenever I search for All-Out in the Corp search thing I never get any results. What the fug senpaitachi
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>>151942506
Search it under people and stuff
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>tfw no arty stabber fit
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>>151928009
How is that fit problematic to fly in any manner?
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>>151934608
Not stated.
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>>151942805
because it's not as good as the svipul
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>>151943454
It's also like half the price.
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https://suitonia.wordpress.com/2015/08/25/links-part-2-just-how-broken-are-links-maths-and-words-edition/

>>151942386
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>>151943679
Game design.

CCP is obviously incompetent.
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>>151942506
The public ingame channel is "doomed from the start"
Without quotation marks, with or without spaces.

You can ask about it there.
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>>151943679
PAY TO WIN
A
Y
T
O
W
I
N
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>Autism chariot
What do they mean by this?
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>>151944482
poorfag, go do overtime in your burger flipping job
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>>151944627
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>>151944785
poorfag
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>>151944524
Can't tell if memeing or new. I'll assume new.

An autism chariot is an overly blinged out spaceship that costs a shitload of money. They make for hilarious killmails.
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>>151944524
its a r/eve term
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>>151945231
Greedy devs.
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>>151920229
whats wrong with test
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>whats wrong with test
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Why is Dreddit always recruiting?
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>who are you quoting?

I made this meme
>>
>she thinks she made that meme
>she thinks she is a memer
>being a memer
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>>151949416
Who's Dreddit? Are they the 4chan guild?
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>memes
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>she wasn't there
>>
I'm.
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>>151950215
>t. falseflagging sergaljerk faggot brutor recruiter
>>
hey i want to bot like 10 accounts mining is this a good idea or a bad idea?
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>>151950598
>bot
Probably not fine.
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>>151950598
It's a splendid idea. You might want to form up with some /eog/ bros to form one of our famous mining fleets, friend.
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I also made a meme
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>post a shit image
>call it a meme
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>tfw you have a bunch of beta cucks orbiting around that 1 chick in your comms on every roam
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>>151951613
Does she have a penis?
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>she
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>>151951759
no idea, she sounds like shes in her late 30ies though
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>>151951613
>be girl
>get free stuff
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>>151951613
>t. beta orbiter cuck
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>>151952338
>t actual beta orbiter cuck
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>>151952501
>t. projecting beta orbiter faggot cuck
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>>151952615
>t. actual projecting beta orbiter faggot cuck
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>t.
shitty shitmeme, faggots
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>>151952823
>t. projecting beta orbiting faggot cuck implicator
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>>151953027
>t. kreydis

checkmate.
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>>151952985
>t. shitty shit memer faggot
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>no beta cuck to orbit you
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>>151953152
>t. real kreydis
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>>151953337
no m8, I already won. it's over.
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>she thinks she has won
>>
>she
>>
>she denies the truth
>>
>she
>>
Why is Reyni so cute
>>
Anyone else here mine for pleasure, not profit?

My industrialist skills are maximised but sometimes I just like to sit back, crack open a beer and drone mine in my Imicus.

I carry five mobile tractors in the hold, deploy them in a belt, start at one end and just go until all five are full. Hop in a Miasmos, empty the tractors and repeat. It's so fucking relaxing.
>>
Skillpoint injectors should be made available for sale at the New Eden Aurum store
>>
Artillery and autocannon projectiles should have travel time.
>>
Skillpoint extractors and injectors should be removed from EVE
>>
Yes, you are right. The "skill"points mechanic should be removed completely from the game.
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Skill points should have specializations penalties and there should be more of them.

>Yes, you are right.

I know.
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>something goes wrong on a roam
>fc gets upset and starts sperging at everyone

every time
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>anon starts sperging on /eog/
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join tengoo
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>notdog
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what do I put in a useless highslot on an exploration frigate?

I've got a probe launcher, a salvager and drones for combat but this last empty high slot makes me despair.
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>>151958090
cloak if you're leaving babby space
>>
https://my.mixtape.moe/khmshx.jpg
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>>151958423
I do not think the cloak will save my imicus but I have fitted one anyway. Thank you.
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http://imgur.com/a/BetVA
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How good is the Widow for 10/10 gurista ?
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>>151959405
Windows 10 is shit.
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x hard tackle
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>le funny meme
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>>151958858
Half the point of a cloak is to keep yourself safe while scanning, the other half is as an escape mechanism if you get jumped in a site.
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Communicating with rogue drones when? Rogue drone stations when? Rogue drone storyline arc when?
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>>151960730
Man I talk with rogue drones all the time, they're just real boring
>>
I haven't been in wormholes for months. Do the runaway drifters camp holes and other sites?
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Is your shipfu pure, /eog/?
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>update router and it gives me a new IP
>DDNS doesn't work because namecheap is holding an unscheduled maintenance
Just awful timing. Permalink will be down until Namecheap gets their shit together. I haven't had much luck lately.
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>>151961635
>remove colors
>call it skin
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>>151954221
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>>151954647
Like not from players?

Why would you like to purchase SP anyway? This is supposed to be a sandbox game.

>>151955837
Then what would new players have to look forward to except Skill Points: The Game?
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>>151965317
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>>151954449
yes. I make enough passive isk to plex everything but I mine for the hell of it. I just grab cheap ships and go, don't really care about min-maxing.
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>tfw never
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>>151965462
>Then what would new players have to look forward to except Skill Points: The Game?

The same things what they had to look forward to in the past, before these items were introduced into the game.
>>
>>151958858
cloke warp trick
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>>151966018
ccp makes so much fucking money from skill injectors they will never remove it.
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>>151965994
that slasher should be longer
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>>151966212
of course not, gotta keep those space kike shekels rolling, they will likely introduce even more p2w stuff with fewer players playing
>>
>>151966324
this is true, as the playerbase declines they'll add more "Incentives"
>>
>>151966324
well they need something to keep the shekels rolling since HS players are quitting en-masse and they make up 80% of the player base.

Would help if CCP wasn't always catering to the 20%, 100% of the time (I say this as a member of the 20%)
>>
>>151966453
This is also true, in the last, what, five years nothing has changed for high sec players but they've watched a huge list of new shit for nullbabs scroll past.
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>>151960513
>>151960553
It's funny because 95% of the fit can be had for 25% the price.
>>
>>151966453
the 80% is brain dead though, for the most time. They would rather spend their time mining, doing missions or incursions then do anything even remotely fun. At the same time they ask for highsec to be invulnerable to any sort of danger.

Ideally CCP should be the one coming up with ideas but everybody knows that's never going to happen.
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Warm memo that F2P games make more money than price-gouging games.
>>
Why can't we use Skill Extractors on other players?
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>>151966889
Candy crush must be the best game evar xD GOTAY
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>>151966938
the butthurt coming from this would be already worth it
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>>151966938
Use them on their corpses lol
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>>151966018
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>>151960513
>>151966682
>tackle
>2066 m/s
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>>151967040
Not a rebuttal.
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>heavy tackle
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>>151967175
>tfw prior to skill injectors more players were playing
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>>151967351
It wasn't. But ability to make money isn't relative to gameplay.
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>>151967276
>needing tackle for frigs, as if they're relevant
Just snipe them off the field.

>>151967382
Technically, prior to skill injectors both more and fewer players were playing, so that's not really defining.

>>151967497
It is in the idea that you can make whatever gameplay is best for recurring logins if the money source is fluid.
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>relevant
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>>151967720
>muh 3k ehp ship going 4k
>barely 150 DPS at 2k
>>
>r/eve
>frigs not relevant

is this the f1 nullbabby napfest blobber again
>>
>>151967902
>not DDing every frig in FW lowsec
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>my face when tackling caracals in my interceptor
>>
>it's a ham caracal
>>
Why are caracals the most flown solo ship?
>>
>>151968776
Because Caldari superior race
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>>151968776
because rapids are broken. it's like other cruisers but you don't need to think and it's really op
>>
>>151968776
U wot? It's the prime noob blobship.
>>
Yeah, but the DPS isn't great, and it's not particularly quick or anything.
>>
>>151969359
its paper dps is about on par or better than most cruisers when you factor in range, and its applied dps is ridiculously better

it's also not slow, since it's an attack cruiser and it shield tanks
>>
>be newbro in TEST
>Strat OP in Delve
>FC Welps fleet
>FC yells at me and says I have three days to find some one better than me and learn from them.
Being in Test is suffering.
>>
>>151971358
small gang > nullshit
>>
What's the best non-faction ship to hunt mission runners or other semi-AFK ships?
>>
>>151971358
What ship, and what did he not enjoy about your piloting?
>>
Why do you have to click on the overview target for hotkeys to function on something that's already highlighted?
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>>151971358
>FC yells at me and says I have three days to find some one better than me and learn from them.

Did you point out that such a person does not exist in test?
>>
>>151971358
Steal everything not nailed down and bail to PL like everyone in TEST with any talent did a long time ago.
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>>151972982
>PL
>talent
>>
>>151973229
m8 to be fair, the bar here is literally test, everybody seems like a superstar compared to them
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>>151973326
point well taken
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>Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.

I've been playing for about two and a half years now and I've been in two alliances and several corporations. I trade, mine, and do industry. Is it normal for me to not like being in a corp or alliance even after giving plenty of tries? It feels like for the reasons I play EVE, planning, and making isk, alliances and corps always just get in my way and make me not want to log in. I always get dragged into fleets, and wars, and general fuckery that is just a distraction from my fun in the game.

But based on everything I'm reading I'm having bad wrong fun. Please validate my loner jew nature...
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>>151973871
>loner jew
>not station trading
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>>151973871
Two words my Semitic friend.

Captive Market.
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>death to the frigate menace amirite guise XD
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>>151973987
>mfw people confusing frigates with svipuls, confessors, sabres and command destroyers
>>
>>151973987
To be fair, frigates are probably what I have the most fun in because they're so fucking cheap, and there's always the idea that you can lock down a huge, expensive ship.
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>>151974087
>lock down a huge, expensive ship.
>not instablapped by vindi
>>
>>151973971
I mean I know this is by far the best way to generate the most efficient isk in regards to profit margins but I absolutely hate flying in fleets, I hate being on coms, I hate checking slack constantly, I hate my leadership, I hate not being able to mine because we're constantly at war with everything.

>>151973946
I do station trade.
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>>151974168
>a frigate
>going up against any battleship with small drones
Is the combat-fit logistics cruiser still a thing?
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>>151974361
>I absolutely hate flying in fleets, I hate being on coms, I hate checking slack constantly, I hate my leadership, I hate not being able to mine because we're constantly at war with everything.

You hate it because there is SP. Without SP you would be doing elite solo pvp in your titan.
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>>151974361
So join a group that doesn't require you to do anything like that.

If you have multiple accounts, put a character in goons, a character in test, a character in horde, and keep your miners separate. then sell weapons to all sides at huge markups.
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>>151974361
The way out of a shitty attitude is ignoring shitty thoughts. You can only enjoy unity by rapporting with it
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>>151971358

>listening to pgl ever

he's easily one of the biggest idiots in the game, the rest of test isn't so bad though
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>>151974570
>
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>>151930662
>>151931229
>>151931659
heads up that the opportunities have been updated several times since they first came out (when they were terrible).

Now the opportunities are linear (not haphazard) and steer you through things in increasing complexity. They give you isk on completion, and each one is multistep (fly to the roid, target the roid, activate your laser, fill your cargo, fly back to station, unload your ore to item hangar, put ore on market). This is compared to the tutorial agents, which tell you things to do but not how to do them. On top of all this, the opportunities now point you to the tutorial agents when you get to the end of them - they aren't hidden under the F12 menu any longer.

I no longer recommend that newbies skip the opportunities.
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Mfw goons are the most try hard autist neckbeard group in the game.

Blowing up a legimate rage on reddit for some propaganda purpose. what was pgl meant to do, thank the captor pilots who didn't show up even when 8 of them joined his fleet. It's a video game in the end and everyone has their limits. The average goon autist (see Xenuria) doesn't seem to understand that.
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>>151942506
I'm too lazy to keep a corporation advert paid for, which is how you show up in the recruitment search. Like other people said, it works to search in the People and Places window.
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>>151976027
>try hard autist neckbeard

that also applies to pgl
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>>151976207
I've flown with him a couple of times and the dude was a bro, he's probably one of the least autistic players of this game.
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To be fair, I have no idea what that guy is even interested in from that post.

Is there literally anything a Punisher can engage?
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>>151974637
I'd rather just be my own boss.
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>>151976027
Xenuria is far from average.

Since Gevlon quit, I doubt there's a bigger autist in the game.
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Tfw benji just couldn't handle it anymore.
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>>151977743
I legit miss the little tard.
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>>151977743
/v/ bros is shit without benji to roast. Even if he never realised.
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>>151971956
Because fucking moronic CCP AJNSFERGSRJPBJIGERPBJRTBEJRIPGHJDJFHMKOFIHKD=Ã…FYTIOKHY=FGTY)UIJHKG)NYPYJ(G
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>>151977954
tru lmao xD
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>>151978129
Back d/c
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Why can't I sell this?
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>>151978686
has to be in item hangar
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I logged in for the first time since 2012 this morning. I have 5 PLEX somehow in a station 7 jumps away from my location. Should I use them to extend subscription time or sell them? That's a lot of ISK.

>>151978748
Oh I feel retarded. Thanks anon. Seems weird that you can reprocess items but you can't sell them from your ships cargo hold.
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@151978115
Would anon like a cup of cold water?
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>>151979142

how should we know what the fuck you want to do
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>>151979142
Sit on them for a little while, the price is increasing.
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>>151979385
>>151979314
Can PLEX be used for anything else or is it just a subscription extender?
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>>151979465
Yes.
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>>151979465
You can trade them for aurum I guess, but that's retarded.
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anon trade the plex for aurum I tell you it's a gold mine
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>>151979465

account time or sell for money
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>>151979465
Trust me, aurum is the best thing to do
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>>151979142
join tengoo
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>le ebin american hat xD
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>le
>ebin
>xD

r/eve please leave.
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>>151984512
Get out Redditfag
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>played eve for a month
>got bored and dropped for 6 months
>want to play again

What kinds of things can I do to make it more fun this time around?

I joined a newbie corp last time, but I always got blown apart on roams, and had to ask corp leaders for free ships because I ended up losing all my money on ships and then losing them.

How do I get good at PVP?
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>>151984885
Lose a lot of cheap or free ships, basically.

Treat every loss as a learning experience.
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>>151984885
I struggled with pvp for a long time aswell. You just have to find the ship or style of pvp which suits you best. You also gotta learn to pick the right targets for your engagements. I learned that the Deimos is my favourite ship to do pvp with. I also like to fly recons in small gangs or fleet ops. It all comes down to what you like to do and fly.
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>>151984952

But I don't know how to do PVP correctly in the first place.

I saw a youtube video about "spiralling" towards an enemy to make it harder for them to hit you, but it hasn't helped me do better.

Are there any tutorials or tips on how to do PVP better, so that I can practice them inside actual battles?
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>>151984885
>>151985140

>>151984952
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Also this
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>>151985202
Well the first step is learning how to fir your ship. Do you know how to fit any ships very well?
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>>151985421
Nope.

I was just using a corp-provided thrasher fit, and I don't remember the details about it.

I've never fit my own ship, though, outside of the agent tutorials.

Where should I go to learn more about fitting properly?
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>>151906717
>trinity

HOLY FUCK THE NOSTALGIA JESUS CHRIST
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>>151985202
There are a lot of youtube videos, but really, the best thing to do is to join a corp and learn directly from the vets.

Losing a silly amount of T1 ships is seriously the best way to learn.

As for fitting, get a hold of EFT or PYFA, and just mash buttons. Here's a slasher I used to use in FW.
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>Should SP be removed?
Clearly these dumb brutors missed a greater conundrum - should killboards and killmails be removed? The answer is a resounding yes.
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>>151985778
Well first of all before you go learning about fitting is to get your engineering skills to max. This really helps with actually fitting modules.

Once you've got them queued to level 5 each then you gotta learn how to fit certain ships. The ship tree shows what each factions ships exploit e.g. armour and drones for gallente or shield and missles for caldari etc...

Also send me a mail in game and I can talk teach you some stuff.
Pic related
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Don't waste your time with wormholes, join inri
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>>151986974
You talking about this me?
( >>151986437 )
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>>151987083
Talking to everyone brah
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>>151987154
Ive never really liked wormholes. Gonna have to pass broh
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>>151987250
I'm saying don't waste your time with wormhole groups like all-out or that other one. Join inri the superior nullsec pvpers.
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>>151986028
Btw im not online atm im in bed on my phone so I can talk tomorrow or somethin
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>>151982587
What is tengoo?
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>>151987361
I'm a lowsec edge-lord man. Too busy being a dual rep deimos bully to little FW cats.
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>>151987250
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>>151987383
the /eog/ wh corp, just shoot up a message to Maqari Kinraysuwa if you want in on the autism. no obligations friend, just a place to be till you find something better, might as well have company
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>>151987561
?
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>>151985202
>Are there any tutorials or tips on how to do PVP better
A). The ranged meta is always more efficient for target selection than brawling because you can get away if you are fast enough / maneuver properly. Brawling gets shit on by blobbing.

B). The simplest method of learning how to maneuver the ship properly is to not ever use the click commands (approach, orbit). The piloting AI is inefficient and even plausibly bugged (to stop the ship before switching directions), so double clicking directions is basically always the best idea. Agile brawling ships with dual webs and such can click orbit, but they still benefit from manual piloting to get into position.

C). Pick a niche, even a single ship fit, and train for that. Spreading SP through 4 frigate factions, cruisers, and whatever else takes literal years to make all of them decent. Furthermore, if ranged is going to be the main playstyle, that's probably only going to be a ship or two per class -- Slicer or Tristan in frigates, Stabber and Omen and maybe the Caracal in cruisers, then T2s/T3s (interceptors for fleets, etc.). It's possible to do ranged with less speed and agility, where the ship just sorta gets within firing range and backtracks while getting chased I guess, but the point is that SP is very specialized even per ship.

D). Making ISK is basically either PLEXing or sitting in FW complexes. There are a bunch of passive ISK-making ideas that can be done, like Planetary Interaction and market trading, or even getting a character into a niche and selling its extra SP. It's not immediately obvious how productive these can be per how little game knowledge players might have; and even market trading takes lots of capital for a decent return (not to mention how boring a lot of it is). Even more advanced newbie ISK, like 50M/hr, is some $1.50/hr vs. just PLEXing for 1.2B (literally hundreds of ships).

1/?
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>>151987561
Queerious
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>>151987656
>. Making ISK is basically either PLEXing or sitting in FW complexes
>Spreading SP through 4 frigate factions, cruisers, and whatever else takes literal years to make all of them decent

Wow fucking kill yourself.

Don't trust a word this person says.

I honestly can't tell if this is retardation or newbie griefing. There's a bunch of TERRIBLE info mixed in with some common sense ones.
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>>151986235
Nobody who actually enjoys the game gives a shit about KBs except as a measurement for moderation.
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>>151986235
>>151987931
SP though prevents newbies from enjoying the game, which is a shitty idea if the point is getting subs.
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>>151987591
>Maqari

That guy has the biggest I was bullied in school so now I take it out in people on mmos complex I have ever seen.
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>>151988075
Well its kind of hard to remove the sp system and make something which:
A: Is not a constant grind
Or
B:Something which isnt the passive SP system
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>nobody actually gives a shit about killboards
>all these autism about efficiency, """"solo""""/gang, and """"dangerous""""/snuggly shit
Really makes you think...
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>>151988232
>Well its kind of hard to remove the sp system and make something which:
>A: Is not a constant grind
>Or
>B:Something which isnt the passive SP system
There's no reason to "make" something at all.

From the forums:
"And replaced with what?" Nothing.

"You mean i can just get a new toon straight into a titan?" Yes.

"Why would i ever even bother playing.." Fun?

"..since now its pay to win" ISK = WIN?

"(PLEX buys as many ships as i want, i can just start new characters when i need more pilots)." Go fund a Mach-a-day habit on PLEX. I want to see the reddit post on that one.

"The skill system gives meaningful choice." No it doesn't.

"What i train has an opportunity cost." Not exactly. Most skills are 'train them, or you're an idiot.'

"Just being able to do everything RIGHT NOW CUS I WANT TO is a facebook game." The hell are you talking about? The entire model of cow clickers is preventing you from doing things.

"You will need your credit card for these free games." As opposed to EVE which doesn't require one?
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>>151986028
Thanks for the tips and fit! I'll go grab EFT

>>151986437
Sounds good, I'll talk to you after resubbing and reinstalling.
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>>151989040
I sorta miss that font.
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>>151987591
I see "Tengoo Reinstallation Service" and "Tengoo Uninstallation Service" when searching for the Tengoo corp.
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>>151989040
>"You mean i can just get a new toon straight into a titan?" Yes

This post is retarded and you are probably some fag who got salty cause he cant be fucked to wait a few days to fly his brand new Sleipnir.

Seriously go to a different site with your shit posts you fucking moron.
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>CCP Fozzy finally said, "Fuck it. Rise, you go to /eog/, because I don't feel like discussing SP anymore."

Pretty sure Rise used to post here.

>>151990154
Not an argument.
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>Rise
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>>151990071
It's Tengoo Uninstallation Service m8.
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>>151990215
You're not an argument either, you're a r/eve shill.
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>>151984885 here

I just resubbed.

All my wallet history is gone, can't see any of my previous market orders from 6 months back and other stuff.

>Transactions
"No transactions found"

>Journal
"No records found"

Nothing after hitting the load button, either.

Is this normal? Is history erased if you've been inactive?
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>>151990676
Spaghetti code.

>>151990674
Of course I'm not an argument. How does that make you feel?
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>>151990792
>How does that make you feel?

Like I won yet again, like every thread. But I'm glad you came out and finally admitted it.
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>>151990792
>Spaghetti code

W-what

So i'm fucked?
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>>151990947
That's probably not a set of records that would make the sub.

>>151990914
>no u
>>umm ok
>I win
"That's ludicrous" isn't a rebuttal.
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>>151984952
>Treat every loss as a learning experience.

But what if historically I learn very little from failure because I don't correct my mistakes unless they're undeniable causes of failure?

I might lose a ship 50 ties before I assume its the fit, or any other specific thing chalking it up to "well it didn't work out that time, but aybe it will next time"
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>>151992189
Not a rebuttal isn't a rebuttal either, friend.
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>>151992482
>asking for a rebuttal to a post without any substance
Sure it is.
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>>151992739
But that's what you're doing every thread. Posts without either substance, arguments or proof.
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I have all day
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>that guy who falls for the remove sp meme every thread
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there's no reason to remove sp until we remove local
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>new skins
>they're shit
>mfw
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>>151993619
and links
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>>151993619
Theres no reason to remove sp until we servers.
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>that one faggot who blames his lack of skill on local
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>local
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ecm is fine
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>>151993784
Sure, CCP.
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there's no reason to remove sp
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Start up a no-SP server for a month and watch the fucking subs.
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>>151994589
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>>151994629
>no economy
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>>151994767
Just copy over the server, duh.
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>>151994629
Yeah for a month.

See which server is more popular over 8 years. That server would be the "not real EVE" server and no one would give a fuck what happened there.
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>>151994925
Why would anybody go back to an SP server after establishing a bankroll without? Why would anybody choose to limit their gameplay for literally nothing?
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>mfw no sp infinite cap blobs for established alliances with the deepest IRL pockets, even worse than now with no skill injectors
>more highsec newbie mission runner and miner gank squads
>mfw even more alt dependent gameplay

wew lads
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>leave /eog/ for 3 months
>dogposting and will smithing is at an all time low
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>>151995152
It doesn't feel real, it doesn't require commitment, so the gains feel worth less than they would be otherwise.

Limiting your gameplay is a fundamental principle of a role playing game. If your choices aren't limited by the choices you make then your choices don't have any meaning.
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>>151995527
>more cap blobs
>actually equals more ISK distribution
>maybe they would actually put in more ISK sinks
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>>151994703
you are truly the wisest, dogposter #2
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>>151995670
Your limited by what you're not interested in. How is it roleplaying if you can't rapport with what the character can actually accomplish? SP doesn't make sense. It's an obvious monetization. There's no suspension of disbelief, which is abysmal for immersion.
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>>151995961
Protip: that's just the roleplay discussion. We're not even talking about figuring out if the game is fun, which happens within the first few sessions.
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>immersion
>not literally muh feels
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>>151996140
>how do I feel about the game?
>well, I can't do much very efficiently without subbing for 8 months

>not valid
>>
Feelings are not an argument.
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>>151996370
Calling them feelings is your projection. Call it whatever you like. Some would say it's simple logic.
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>>151996284
You could just not sub if it bothers you that much.

>>151996370
feelings are what make people play games, which eans there more relevant to the conversation than any amount of factual data.
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>>151996501
>You could just not sub if it bothers you that much.
It's not about "me". The minimal retention statistics and the CCP redesign trends we have are plenty of information.
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>feelings make people play games

you heard it on r/eve first folks
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>>151996875
>Hey, the economy is shit, but we should price gate gameplay
>>
m8s we all know what this is about, easy access to cap alts for established veterans of eve.
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>>151986437
I messaged you, thanks again for the advice
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>>151996629
I'd have to see what the game would look like if they just dropped sp suddenly in order to bring in new players. The only thing I do is trade and mine and all my skills are maxed for that so it wouldn't really affect me.

EVE is pretty crowded as it is though, its hard to find anywhere truly quiet and remote in the game.

>>151996875
The majority of choices people make in life are decided on an emotional level. There's no rule that says logic is the only relevant part of a conversation or arguement. The greeks outlined ethos, logos, and pathos as part of persuasion for a reason.

Arguments aren't about being right, they're about convincing someone you're right which is an entirely different thing. Honestly the far more important thing is convincing the audience of the arguement that you're right because the chances that you can convince someone arguing with you that you're right is completely non-existent. If you convince the audience though than it doesn't matter who is right or wrong, no one will listen to them, and people will listen to you.

Logic fags are just buttmad when they get trolled by people who argue with opinions because they can't handle it.
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how is it that with 7500 systems EVE is already crowded
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>>151997584
>EVE is pretty crowded as it is though
In what niche? Maybe the market is competitive, but there could be more hubs with no SP, not to mention you probably already have the rep grind for taxes complete.

Remote and quiet for what? Null is all blob shit. There are whole chains of systems that have absolutely no activity, especially with Fozzy Sov. I find fewer players in null than in FW space somehow, with null supposedly having more PvP.

I'd suggest the economy argument, because I truly find it interesting. Here's a poll.

http://www.strawpoll.me/11009914
>>
not
>>
>probing for information

ccp pls stop
>>
Fake Dror
>>
an
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>>151998347
I'm refering to mining in null. I'd prefer to never see anyone if I could help it. Instead we have neuts/war targets moving daily. Maybe I'm just in super active null or something.
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>small gang forms up
>somebody asks if he can bring a maller
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ardament

XD
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>XD
>>
she
>>
her
>>
>tfw no anime gf
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>eve is easy
>t. liar
>>
eve has never been easy
not even after 13 years and counting
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its pretty easy
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ur ez
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like your mother.
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ez

just like

deklin
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>she is an easy slut
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>she posting
fuck off reyni
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beats no sp posting so fuck off drorr
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>she thinks I am Reyni
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>>152002206
t. pwnd
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>>152002496
yes you were pwnd
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>>152003095
>t. gradeschooler
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>t.fag
>calling anyone a gradeschooler
>implying anyone below 30 plays eve
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>>152004095
I'm 24 dick.
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>>152004095
21
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>tfw now the true gradeschoolers are revealed
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>t.
>t.
>t.
>t.
SURE IS FUCKING REDDIT IN HERE
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>>152004364
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>21
>24
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>>152004365
>t. Redditor
>>
18/f/socal here
#baylife
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>>151990947
Wallet records only go back three months, it's normal
>>
Okay guys, noob coming through

What is the BEST newbie corp to join?

Do corps in this game give free stuff to new players who don't have a whole lot of isk?
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>covert logi ashimmu
BRAVO
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lol?
https://zkillboard.com/kill/55589393/
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>>152007452
umm E-uni I guess? Its too formal for my tastes though.
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>>151851246
Caw
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>>152007452

e-uni
brave
karmafleet
pandemic horde
brand newbros
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>>152008945
All of them are fucking garbage. Don't even go near them.
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>>>/trash/4746906
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>>152009196

not really
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>>152008535
Why? The DPS is fine.
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>>152009843
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>>151998315
Define "crowded".
Having a few people per system is hardly crowded as compared to high sec which much more closely fits the bill (or it would but missions mean that they can support nearly infinite population per mission giving system).

The only really crowded lowsec/nullsec systems are the pipes or HQ systems. Everywhere else by this point is a ghost town. Even jspace probably has a higher occupancy rate per system than low/null.
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proofs
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>>152010058
I ran in to a shield curse last night that had xtype large booster, 4x cap flux coil and a bunch of other crap in the mids. 3x small neuts and one medium. Apparently it wrecked face because he killed a gila and a phantasm without much trouble.
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You have been visited by the sleepy Garmur of shitty hole control.

Missed disruptions and exploded citadels will come to you ONLY if you post "Sleep tight lil Garmur" in THIS thread.
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why do i see so many exhumer mining Veldspar today ??
rge price is shitty as always
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>>152013621
the price*
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>>152013516
Die you fucking piece of shit garmur.
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>>151986437
Who the fuck are you?
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So I'm the oldfag that hasn't played since 2012. How do wormholes work?

Also, why the fuck won't my battleship railguns ever hit small craft like frigates? They miss every shot.
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>>152014043
More specifically they're 425mm Prototype Gauss Guns.
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>>152014043
>>152014294
Because of tracking. Give this a read. http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Gunnery_Guide
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just how much shit does 1 trillion isk buy
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I haven't played since 2012.
I have an ~18m sp toon specced pretty garbage (minmatar assfrigs, etc)
should i Bazaar it, or skill extract it?
by my (shitty) math, i think i'd make ~14b extracting it. but that seems way too high.
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>>152016641 elaborating

every couple of years i feel the pull back to eve but:
1. I'm west coast canada
2. I like small gang pvp
3. my ping is 300ms

which is tragic, because i loved eve.

although if anyone has creative ideas on what i should do with this toon, i'm open to suggestions.
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>>152016879
high latency is very forgiving in eve because of 1000ms server ticks

for small gangs, it points to wormholes.

For Canadians, it points to my corp, we have far too many.
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>making returns on station trading

It's tough with only 100mil ISK to work with, but watching that order close is a feeling like you don't even believe
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>>152014462
Wow I had no idea gunnery was this involved in EVE.

So basically to take out smaller craft while in a larger one like a battleship it's best to use missiles or drones right? Or should I just mount small weapons on my battleship even though it's kinda silly?
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>>152016641
>~18m sp toon
What is an sp toon?
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Rip the qfc
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REEE where is all the fucking ore REEEEEEEE i have to bookmark the last azure plagio and come back for a few houndred units because its all gone REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>tfw sniping the good ores from a belt
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>mining

You know what, fuck it you nerds just do your thing
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>CCP in charge of balancing barges and exhumers

lmbo
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>page 10
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>paying for minerals
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>2016 and not getting your minerals for free
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>2016
>not printing isk
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>>151994703
Anybody can post this dog pic without the shit in it?
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Whata s good BS for smartbomb ratting?
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>>152031847
Mach, fast, enough high slots etc.
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>>152031847
machariel or navy apoc
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>navy apoc
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Who's the guy that always bumps the thread at page 10.
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>>152032872
kevin
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>>152033659
He OPs and bumps? Wow. Thanks, Kevin!
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What happened to finding fair fights? Is there not solo without 8 muz sitting around aligned?
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>fair fight
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>that one guy who isn't a honorabru solo roamer
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>that fag who keeps ranting about internet honor and doesn't use everything he has to totally kill his opponent
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>that fag who blobs mindlessly, pretends to do solo with his link alt and is a general cancer on eve then rants about his zkill stats
>mfw he even posts on /eog/
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>>152036419
>fair fight
Ya know.. 1v1? Top belt? No links?
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CCP, your character creator would factually benefit from a redesign. This shit is wild.

Let's start with girls.

>can't make them actually have muscle in any manner
>the biggest their arms get is hanger size, neck even
>speaking of neck, it's totally unproportional. the guys sort of have this problem also, but for girls it's 10x more thin than both their head and their torso.

And overall, what the faces are trying to do isn't savvy. It's as if there's a default face with slight edits to be made, but the default face is some mangled mess with no chin.

Pick not relevant: something serviceable.
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shoes
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>>152037876
guitar neck, even*
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>>152038010
>biggest arm size
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>>152037876
>>152038010
>>152038126
truly ebin m8 friendo. Maybe you should stop modeling crack whores like the 15yo faggot you are
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>>152038195
>Damage control that doesn't even succeed at damage control because it makes the same point the other posts are
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>implying i damage controled
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>damage control
>implying he didn't point out your inability to create something serviceable with the tools available

git gud or get rekt, m8
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>>152038126
>>152038010
>>152037876
This is dreadful.
Never make another character again and use strictly auto-generated ones.
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>>152038126
The chin anatomy's all fucked up. It tries to make everything no-chin, even though there's already a huge backwards slant in the face from the nose to the chin.

There are barely any nose edits. It apparently can't be made longer to close the ginormous gap between the nose and the chin.

>>152038430
Here's a nice auto.

You guys should go eat your Wheaties. You're not you when you're hungry.
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>damage control
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>>152038754
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Ur a xenuria of chins. Shut the fuck up.
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Leave it to the shitters to criticize but have nothing to say
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>shit nobody cares about
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>>152039291
>not better than page 10
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>they think people care about dogposting

???
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>that one guy who can't create a good looking character in eve
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>non-plate rep t1 armour cruisers
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Is this ok?
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>>152039869
for what?
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>>152041016
Bombing anoms.
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For PvE should I get a Raven Navy Issue or Scorpion Navy Issue?

I'm leaning towards the Raven, but damn they are ugly! Not a single part on that ship is symmetrical.
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If I have a bunch of stuff stored in a corp citadel and I leave the corp what happens to my items in the citadel?
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Are you ready for citadel market monopol?
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How do I find PvE locations using the scanner? All I see is corp ads and Russian shit. I want to do some ratting in high sec space outside of missions.
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>>152046185
Something about this sentence makes no sense.

Are you looking for combat anoms? DEDs? lvl4 agents? Incursion locations?
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>>152046265
Combat anomalies. Honestly I'm okay with pretty much anything. Just getting back into the game after a very long hiatus and back when I used to play the only real PvE was missions and asteroid belt ratting.
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>>152046185
you're talking about your overview. the probe scanner is a different thing, and so is the directional scanner. combat anomalies appear on the probe scanner, it should be automatic
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>>152047008
Do the scanning tutorials.

Hit alt+p
The green sites can be warped to whenever
The red sites need to be scanned down.

In highsec, this whole thing is mostly worthless, barring faction drops from escalations (google for details if you want).
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>>152047761
>>>152047008
>Do the scanning tutorials.
>Hit alt+p
>The green sites can be warped to whenever
>The red sites need to be scanned down.
>In highsec, this whole thing is mostly worthless, barring faction drops from escalations (google for details if you want).

Yeah I'm doing this in high sec mostly just to learn how it all works.

Where do I start the scanning tutorials? Away from computer on mobile at the moment.
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>>151930662
babbys first mission boat fit
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>implying it's possible to do missions and not be a babby
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>>152048303
There should be a assistant NPC called AURA that will tell you what to do.
I haven't done this in so long I don't remember anymore, but it should be there somewhere.
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>Rhiload
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You just don't get it.
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What is there to do in high sec? Mining and ratting in 0.5 sec?
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>>152050628
Incursions.
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>>152050628
4/10 and 5/10
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>>152050628
Buying stuff with your alt so you can take it into your wormhole.
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>wormhole
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>any other space than wormhole
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Will I go to hell if I train Cloaking V?
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>not tp v
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Post waifus
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>the same fucking 5 guys posting the same tired memes and images over and over again
That's what you get for being a bit fat pile of AIDS I guess.
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>>152041082

You don't have enough smartbombs.
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>>152054461
thats right, either you post dog or you can fuck off back to r/eve
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>>152054496
>all 8 highs
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>>152054461
Fuck you. Get a dog up ya, you fucking coon.
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>played eve a few months back and used my one remote home station per year
>resubbed now, trying to get to corp's staging area
>gatecamps along the way
>my ibis can't deal

wat do lads?
i've been blown up at least 5 times in the last hour
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>>152055067
did you try asking your corp
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>>152055259
yeah

they said to use set their staging station as my remote home station and destroy my pod

i used that up last year, so it won't work.

then they just said to get there manually and pray for no gatecamps, but i'm running into interdictors and mobile warp disruptors in literally every single jump

should i just try again tomorrow?
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>small gang forms up
>somebody asks if he can bring a crusader
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>>152055472
Put a cloak and a microwarpdrive on a frigate, then fit as many nanos and speed rigs as you can. Break your gate cloak by clicking in a random direction that isn't towards the gate, immediately cloak and then hit your mwd. This should get you clear enough to slowboat out of the bubble.
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>>152055741
But, the gate I want to go through is gatecamped, so I can't even jump through to try that out.

when i warp to a gate, there is a bubble that stops me from moving towards the gate, and then i get blown up
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>>152056237
Get a corp mate to make a load of tactical bookmarks off the gates for you, you can just warp to the bookmarks and then slowboat to the gate while cloaked. This will take a long time.
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Dogola is best dog.
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Post some true Sasha wolfgirls
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>>152013516
Sleep tight lil Garmur
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>>152013516
Sleep tight lil Garmur

>mfw all the muh honor fags refusing to fly cool ships
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>flying fotm faggot tier ships
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>>152013516
>orbiting
>at 10km
boi you had best have dual props or you're gonna fucking explode faster than you can say "I'm being scrammed"
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and you're still gonna die anyway
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because Garmurs are fucking TRASH
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>it's balanced, look at all these losses from retards
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>Garmur buff never
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>>152056237
When you suspect a gate is bubbled or when there is neutrals in the system, warp to a different object near the gate, some gates have asteroid belts, planets, moons etc on the same cluster.
Once you are close enough to d-scan check if there is anchored bubbles.
If there is a large one you will get stored by it but from a different angle from where they are expecting you if they are shit and you might be able to burn to gate.
If no anchored bubble but you see a HIC or dictor, assume they bubbled it the moment you became visible on d-scan out entered system and they will most likey chase you through if you make it to the gate.
Keep in mind that if you waited from a different angle and they never saw you because of cloak, you can easily slow boat to gate because most campers are shit at the game and won't have cans placed towards every possible object in the system.

If no HICs or doctors and no anchored bubbles, go ahead and warp to gate.


If the gate had no close signatures, you will have to cap drain yourself.
Initiate warp to a random place and stop it immediately, keep doing it until you have no cap.
Once you have very little cap warp to far gate and you will most likey stop mid warp at a d-scannable range.
Make sure to stop the automatic re-warp.

Alternative is to have tactical bookmarks above and below gate, specially if it's a route you use a lot.
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>drooling retards sometimes lose their JF that means there is risk
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>>152004095
>Benji dallocuck
thank dog he's gone
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>>152034342
Kevin is the savior of dogs everywhere
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>>151959405
Blops tank less than t1 battleships.

Use a tengu.
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did they say when they're fixing links
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>>152066792
Never
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>>152064330
Thanks for the tips, but I have been blown up at least 10 times now, trying to get to the staging station. I barely had any ISK before, and now I almost have none. I don't want to waste any more ISK on ships and items. If I can't get there in a rookie ship, then fuck it.

I'll probably just wait until tomorrow to try again, and if that doesn't work, I'll just biomass this character and make a new one.
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>>152067032
Where are you trying to get to?
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>>152067197
My corp's staging area is 7RM-N0. It's just 7 fucking jumps from hi-sec, but there are gatecampers on EVERY SINGLE gate. The farthest I have gotten is 3 gates, and that was a couple hours ago.
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>>152067626
I assume you're coming up through EC-?

Don't do that. It used to be easy to get in through RQH, which you guys also hold. (Set a clone there, and repeat for every system you manage to get into, I assume horde still have citadels fucking everywhere)

Who's camping around there anyway? I thought you guys were still blue to literally everyone.
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>>152068601
Yeah, I was going through EC-

>RQH
I'll give that a shot, thanks for the tip.

I don't know who's camping there, didn't have the chance to see their alliance name.
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>>152068947
What's your character name, I'll pull it from zkill.
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>>152069068
Just checked myself, found these:

>Pure Blind Cartel
>Mordus Angels
>Archetype.
>Talu Shaya Empire
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>>152069068
https://zkillboard.com/character/96070905/
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>>152069524
Locals then.

Are you guys not blue to fucking everyone anymore? Are ~cracks forming?~
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>Amarr
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Could someone PLEASE explain to me, in language that a potato could understand, what exactly a "citadel" is, and why they are better/worse than POS's?
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>>152074643
a station for edgy kids to use for their special sekrit club that shoots back and insta undocks you
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>>152074772
lol, this mad
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>>152074951
no Iam currently inside one, can confirm what I just posted is correct
now fuck off my sekrit club station
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>>152074643
/eog/ always said a citadel was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get.
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>>152074643
Citadels are meant to eventually replace player owned stations and be easier for ccp to work with because they aren't made of spaghetti code. There aren't really any significant disadvantages to them beyond functionality, but they will eventually be able to do everything a pos can do now.

http://eve-guides.fr/index.php?article=132
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>>152074643
it's like a station but it can blow up, so it's kind of pointless at the moment because stations exist
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>>152075992
It's pointless for kspace casuals unless you want to get into trade hub taxing.
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>tfw eve has no dialogues
>tfw no interactive storyline
>tfw rogue drones will stay untouched forever
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>I live in a wormhole
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>>152079174
>Multiplayer game

>the singleplayer is shit

What the fuck did you expect?
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>>152079624
TORtanic has good singleplayer.
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>>152079174
>rogue drones will stay untouched forever
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>>152080027
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>>152081732
It has tho. Even if the rest of the game is meh.
>>
Join All-Out, we have the best memers xD.
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>>152080027
I guess. It's not exactly in the same vein as this terrible game though, is it.
>>
>>152082021
It really isn't, it's shit. All of it, the only thing that could be considered cool are lightsabers. Story, gameplay engine all of that is shit.
>>
>>152082176
Yeah, but you can have plot-focused mmo.

>>152082854
I mean the storytelling system from mass effect, not the story itself. I don't even play TOR lmao. God knows how that game is now.
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>>152055067
Google "Eve scout thera", find a wormhole entry near you and an entry near where you want to go and take a ship with a probe launcher and probes.

Alternatively google "eve gatecheck" and check your route for camps. Keep telling out to avoid camped systems until you get a clear route and then follow it.
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>tfw nobody lets you fly pic related
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>>152086904
Fly her anyway, she's your shipfu.
>>
>nobody lets you fly

do you need some sort of permission to fly whatever the fuck you want?
>>
no but it needs some support to be useful, and the support gets all uppity if you aren't flying fotm faggot shit
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>>152087226
More like
>our doctrine doesn't revolve around your ship, don't bring it to fleet, do it on your own time
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>>152087364
Make your ship fit the doctrine.

Be the Baltec1 of Typhoons.
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>>152087524
or this

go make a fleet around typhoons
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>>152087524
good advice, I will try harder to piss off my fc

>>152087678
>wanting other people to fly you're waifu
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>>152087743
If your FC gets pissy about a ship you've fit to keep up with his fleet and not slow anyone down, fuck him.
>>
>him
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>>152087839
>anon we're doing HML Cerbs
>well I wanna bring my typhoon
>don't bring a typhoon, grab a cerb
>hurr durr my typhoon can keep up
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>>152088023
RHML, shield tanked typhoon with a couple of hyperspacials?
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>>152088137
Doesn't have the range at all. HML cerbs can reach out to over 100km, a RHML typhoon doesn't even come close to that.
>>
>rapids

this isn't about being a proper faggot
>>
what if he brought a rohk instead, it's a proper waifu too
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>>152088565
why would you attempt to bring a rohk to a fucking HML cerb fleet

Cerbs can do almost 1700m/s with a MWD
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>>152088725
because its the space train.
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>>152089285
this space train isn't going anywhere
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>>152088184
Cruisephoon then. The point isn't to be particularly effective, the point is to have fun doing something stupid. Like the guy who brings megathrons to literally every fleet ever.
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>>152089403
>anon wtf just grab a cerb
>NO IVE HYPER OPTIMIZED THIOS SHIT TO PARTICIPATE
>anon just grab a cerb, here take this one you can borrow it
>NO I WANNA FLY MY CERB
>don't join my fleet then
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>>152089474
This isn't what happens. Dude brings a machariel on a proteus fleet, and nobody really cares. Magathron guy brings one to a fucking frigate fleet, and no-one really cares.

Unless your FC is incapable of understanding fun, I guess.
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a typhoon or other attack battleship can get up to sort of usable speeds. a rokh, and I think all the other combat bs other than the tempest and hyperion are too slow to pretend to be a really fat cruiser
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>>152089403
you sound like a fun m8, m8. I would invite you to my fleets, even if its just to piss of the muh killboards fags
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>>152089695
>anon just bring a cerb, thats what our fleet revolves around
>no I wanna have "fun" my way
>fine then don't join my fleet
>>
>fcs
>understanding fun

>mfw someone asks me to fly logi
>mfw they actually think I wouldn't rather just sit in station
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>mfw someone wants to bring a arty vagabond to the cerb fleet
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>>152089897
>jeez anon you're really worthless and all you are is an F1 monkey
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>>152090080
>mfw cerbfags mad they don't have a shield boost bonus
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>ask for a inty pilot
>x crusader
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>>152090745
>x crow

>x raptor
>>
crowfags are the worst. you can instantly tell if someone is a shitter if they fly a crow over a stiletto

>slow
>bad agility
>bad sig

>b-but if I gimp my fit so I'm even more shitty, I can apply 50 dps

also ares, never fly that either
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/eog/ what the fuck am I doing? How do I make this good for PvE? I have no idea what I'm doing...

[Drake]
[Empty Low slot] x3
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Cap Recharger I x3
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Recharger I
Large Shield Booster II

XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay x6
Salvager I


Hobgoblin II x5

Nova Heavy Missile x395
Mjolnir Heavy Missile x330
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>>152095878
download EFT
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inb4 that one pyfafag
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>active Drake
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>>152096109
What's EFT? I'm always so bad at outfitting ships I feel so retarded and useless in combat.
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>>152095878
First, get rid of the fucking active shield booster, unless something has changed suddenly those are still garbage on the Drake.

Next slap a shit load of shield extenders and those fancy smancy resist boosters (the active ones)

Lowslots are as many of those shield recharge thingies as you can fit and still actually turn on your mid slot modules and maybe some of those power diagnostics and a damage control.

Rigs need to be core defense purgers x3.
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>>152096470
eve fitting tool
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>>152096405
>beautiful, symmetrical, missile spewing battlecruiser destroying rats with ease
>offers tech II drones for support
How can you not love it Anon?
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>hams
>heavies
>destroying anything
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>>152096842
Is that just for saving and viewing fittings outside the game or does it suggest proper fittings for ships?
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>>152097176
You create an api and import your character. You can create and preview fitting just like it were in game and on your charachter. You can also import to and from the game.
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>>152097129
What are hams?

Also, what the hell is the difference in the auto targeting missiles and the "regular" missiles? They have identical stats except for a bit less damage.
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>>152097310
Sounds awesome I'll download now.

How do I git gud at actually putting together a good fitting though? The trouble is that I don't even know what I need.
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>>152097670
Trial and error. Make various fits and compare them. Or post them on /dog/ and ask.

Also make some shitposting fits.
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>>152097670
for a basic idea you can check the eve uni wiki, I believe they have some fits for most if not all ships there

do note that those fits are very basic, so take them with a grain of salt
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>>152097437
HAMs are heavy assault missiles and the auto targeting dont need a locked target they jusst go for their own targets which takes a bit microing away against drones and other small shit that doesnt really deserve full attention
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghoPrNaUBtY
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>>152097848
Anon why are you doing that
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>>152095878
Don't mix ammo.
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>>152097670
I know people here don't like Osmium but it's worth a check if you have absolutely no clue where to start.
So Google that and start looking, chances are someone made a half decent pve Drake fit.

Just don't use the page for actual fitting.
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>>152100062
I hope he does the damnation next
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>she watches zkillguides
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>Not played EVE in about a year and a half
>Play No Man's Sky, absolutely awful, but reminds me of the fun I had in EVE
>Want to start playing again
>At uni, only have a shit laptop and probably not enough time

Do you reckon I could get a cheap laptop/PC that could run it?
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>he fell for the no mans sky meme
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>he
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