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Dueling Network/Yu-Gi-Oh! General #2268
Last thread: >>151699224
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Before asking to be spoonfed, try the following:
● Read the cards.
● Lurk and read the archives
● Read the cards please
● READ THE OP
● Google your Deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event.
● Most games have single rounds or a best of three match; matches are encouraged as they teach you to make use of your side deck for tournament play.
● Remember to playtest and try suggestions before you trash them even if someone recommends a weird tech choice. You don't know everything.
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>Draw a Rock
>Reptile-type
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Xth for Arc-V
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meme decks
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How can I play Evil HEROs the correct way?
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BANLIST WHEN
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>>151797638
Eh, it's kinda interchangeable which you want to use.
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6th for 5ds
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>>151797809
Everyone would meme about if for a month, then forget about it.
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>>151798293
Do not give him attention. He only wants to derail the thread.
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>Try to watch random duel on DevPro
>5 duels
>5 rage quit
>All of them ended before the end of the 3rd turn
I miss watching good games.
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>come back from hiatus
>see this

Someone post the Kazuki Takahashi image
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>>151798701
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>>151798783
THANK YOU KAZ SENSEI
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>>151798783
THANK YOU KAZ SENSEI
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>>151798783
THANK YOU MAX SENSEI
pls just give me back towers and scout
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>>151797946

Kill all your friends.
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Why did Konami make like 40 Genex cards
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>>151797916
Why hasn't anyone in the OCG made some kind of neo Dino Rabbit deck ft Bahamut and friends?
I mean with 3 Rescue Rabbit and Unexpected Dai it seems like it would work
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>>151798971
>MAX SENSEI
No anon, you just have doomed your favorite deck.
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Things KoA discuss while making the banlist
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Serious question.

How would people react to an announcement of new Cloudian support? Would you all laugh it off? Or would some of you actually get excited for Cloudians to be potentially good?
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https://www.strawpoll.me/10874669
Reminder that there are only 6 days left to try and predict what deck is going to take Worlds 2016! So far we have had 131 "unique" voters and Blue-Eyes have 36% (47) of the total vote followed (not) closely by Monarchs and the Wild Card taking in 10% (13) of the total vote each. Will /dng/ finally call something right? Or will the one dude voting for Nekroz get all of the (You)s? Will we see some major backpedalling? Who the FUCK knows, but what I do know is that Worlds is this coming Saturday and it's being held in Orlando Florida. Votes will be finalized as soon as the official stream begins so if you have yet to vote, what the fuck are you waiting for you fucking retard
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>>151799474
>not voting for ruri raptos
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>>151799282
If you don't go first you're pretty much screwed since the good decks are able to disrupt your plays. If you go first, or second, and win you still have to play against that deck going first game 2 with a side deck as well as game 3 with them siding in hand traps up the ass. That's what I think is stopping the deck but that's with very little thought and the OCG gets weird at times so it could do well
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>>151799715
What's Raid Raptors best play?
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>>151799884
*teleports behind you*
*summons Ultimate Falcon*
Pssh, nothing personnel, kid
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>>151799715
You may as well vote for Tellars.
They do practically the same thing but they're more consistent.
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>>151799962
But do Tellars have a Towers Bird.0?
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>>151799884
Turbo into ulti falcon and stun
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>>151800046
No, but Raptors aren't Qlis and can't Turbo out Ultimate and straight up win.
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>>151799928
*twin twisters your backrow*
*summons Za Rightning*
I'm making it personell...chump
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>>151799928
>>151800046
>>151800085
Reminder that Ruri will BTFO Shun next week.
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>>151800046
Nope, they have outs to Ultimate Falcon and an even better Towers instead.
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>>151800170
*effect veilers the lightning*
What now scrub
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>>151798783
thank you kaz sensei

pls add more support for zombies and rock-types
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>>151800170
>*summons Za Rightning*

JAAADDGE
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>>151800170
*effect veilers your Lightning*
You can't make it personnell if I don't let you... faggo.
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Why are so many people from /tg/ shitters at this game
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>>151799715
>that fucking QUALITY
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>>151799474
Since Lightning is AFK thanks to Euros and Kaijus are AFK since MUH EXCLUSIVES is there anything stopping Chaos MAX turbo from winning?
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>>151800551
>>151800471
mind drain ;)
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>>151800635
How good you are at a card game that you barely play?
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>>151800635
90% of /tg/ can wipe the floor with /dng/, Paco
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>>151800702
Oh fuck I never considered that. I definitely think there will be a few people running this version of Blue-Eyes. Honestly I will be satisfied if this or the regular Blue-Eyes variants win.
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Tellars are going to take Worlds twice in a row
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>>151800702
The fact that the deck bricks harder than monarchs without Pantheism and Stormforth
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>>151800702
>is there anything stopping Chaos MAX turbo from winning?
Santa Claws mained at 3?
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>>151800845
Infernitys will win
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So what kind of extra deck are you supposed to use for Qliphoths if any
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Guys
What if EXODIA wins worlds
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>>151801143
Infinity
Nova
Your Ghost Reaper targets
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>>151801097
Alive Magician Infernity HEROs. Make it happen
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>>151801163
That's impossible considering it barely had any consistency to start with and with Tewart taking away all the good generic draw power, it's basically just a brick waiting to hit you in the face.
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>>151801467
Didn't that one American take Exodia.dek to Worlds during Dinorabbit format?
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>>151801561
What an absolute madman
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>>151801561
My African American brother Jarel getting 5th place with Exodia Stall.
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>>151801561
https://roadoftheking.wordpress.com/2012/08/10/yu-gi-oh-world-championship-2012-4/
>3 Upstart Goblin
It's ded mang.
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>>151801639
He tried to chain a trap that he just set to Royal Decree that was flipped during the End Phase of his turn
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>AI attacks me directly through Swift Scarecrow

PERCYYYYYY
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>>151801732
>Sangan
>Upstart
>One Day of Peace
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>not playing Cupidity in Exodia
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>>151801561
>Dinorabbit format
You know OCG didn't have Tour Guide and Dolkka, right?
Dino Rabbit was rogue without TCG exclusives, and was not used during worlds.
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Buy desires now or wait and see if price drops
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Post Worlds 2016 format decklists
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>>151802784
What the fuck do you even play at Worlds?
Everything is dead.
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>>151802902
You do not have the mindset of a champion. You are a scrub.
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>>151802902
D R A G O N S

R

A

G

O

N

S
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>>151802784
why is mezuki at 2?
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>>151802784
>Dystopia banned

For what purpose? Shouldn't he be like the Kaiju and whatever else, and just excluded from the list as illegal? Or is he ACTUALLY banned?
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>>151803272
cause that's how it is in nipland
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>>151803069
Way to dodge the question with ebin buzzwords.
>Shaddolls are dead
>Nekroz is dead
>Monarchs are dead
>Burning Abyss is dead
>Pendulums are dead
>HERO is dead
There is literally no good deck to play at Worlds unless you're going set 5 pass helmet stun shit like last year.
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>>151803390
Then do it again this year
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>>151802784
>Za Raitunin banned

I don't appreciate 5000 beatstick busting a load in my face but what the fuck is this shit list
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>>151803390
>Pendulums
>Dead
Not Abductor.dek :^)))
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>>151803481
Blame the euros
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>>151803481
the eternal yuropeon strikes again
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>>151803476
>>151803524
Thanks for the (You)s
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>in NGE only one of Asuka/Rei is good, the other one is trash
>in YGO Asuka and Rei are both great
how does komoney do it?
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If monster reborn went to 3 literally no meta deck would run it.
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>>151804428
they focus on the opposite shipping side
can someone hmu with the protags shouting for their partners
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>be playing metalfoes
>activate desires
>banish literally all of my metalfoes spell/traps except 1 counter i had in hand
>this makes all my scales useless and means i literally cannot fusion summon because i banished my 1 copy of fusion and my 1 copy of full metalfusion

Do nips really run 3 desires in their metalmeme builds? i'm thinking of dropping it to 2 or even testing out the deck without desires all together
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>>151804757
Nice meme.
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>>151805186
Are you searching before or after you use Desires?
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>>151805186
haha, joke is on us, he is only pretending to be retarded
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>>151805186
>be playing Metalfoes
>go second to Domain Monarch
>he opens the Domain
>think it's ok since I have Cosmic Cyclone to remove it.
>Erebus rips it from my hand and I'm stuck with Metalfoes which can't do shit to Erebus since no ED.
Monarchs banned when?
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I need some help with my Hero deck. If only stratos wasnt banned this deck would be tier 1.
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>>151806104
Run Treatoad and Bahamut Shark
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>>151806153
Is that from the new packs coming out?
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>>151806153
How will a bunch of shit frogs going to help hero decks lmao
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>>151805423
I had no card i could blew up in hand, bricked pretty badly but my "salvation" was desires
>>151805817
Soon brother, just a few more weeks
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>>151806329
Treatoad is from Invasion of Venom, the set after TDIL so we won't have it in the TCG for a bit
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>>151806840
Then don't blame Desires for your shitty ratios faglord
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>>151807115
What are some """"optimal""" ratios? the ratios for the ocg builds i've seen are all over the place
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>>151803390
Trains.
Chain burn
Metalphosis
Rainbow Neos turbo
Dragons
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>>151807887
>Trains
>playable at Worlds
Kek.
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>>151807887
>Rainbow Neos turbo
Is this still a thing?
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>>151807887
>Illegal
>dies to Denko
>Illegal
>Meme deck and Shadow Mist at 1 and Stratos b&
>Dead with Blaster.
So no good decks
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>>151808694
>>Dead with Blaster.
>doesn't know about D R A G O N S 2.0
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>>151808812
and that is?
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>>151809396
Blue-Eyes
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>>151809428
Can't even beat Mermails.
Worse than Kozmo/10.
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>>151809680
Nice meme
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>>151809708
It's a horrible meme, apologize.
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>>151803390
>>151807887
What about D/D/D?
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>>151811493
You're kidding, right?
>No Lamia
>No synchro
>No Genghis
>No Beowulf
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>>151811493
Unfortunately, due to Tewart's shitty Star Wars/Wizard of Oz fanfiction, D/D/D will not be viable for another 5 months. But do not worry friend, our time will arrive shortly, and we'll put an end to the cancer of the meta
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>>151811836
>Tunnel vision into unbreakable board.dek
>not cancerous
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>>151812241
>utilizes every resource available to it to establish its own board, having a combination of cards take play in order to forge said board
>cancer

Maybe you just can't accept the fact that D/D/D takes more skill than any of the helmet decks that are topping
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>>151806153
This is what I use
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>>151812503
Meant to reply to >>151806104
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>>151812450
Why did you post a blank picture? Am I supposed to see something there?
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>>151812503
You think you're paying enough life points there, buddy?
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>>151815152
No
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>>151812503
This deck is pretty disgusting desu, i hate modern """"""""""""hero""""""""""" decks
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>>151815298
Me too desu
I wish I could play HERO beat instead of Dark Law Treatoad gg ;)
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>>151815205
A Hero Lives, Instant Fusion, Cosmic Cyclone, and Strike at 3, 1x Soul Charge and Warning are a good start. But maybe you should side in Wall of Revealing Light just in case you need to get those pesky lifepoints out of the way that much faster.
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>>151815681
I still go full pet deck mode and play HERO beat, it's pretty fun but obviously not as good as regular masked hero which it's just darklaw.stun at this point.

Hopefully next list we get stratos back, literally no reason to keep him locked.
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>>151816194
Dark Law.dek would still be better than dated trash like HERO beat.

You can only use bad cards like Alius for so long.
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what are the card ratios for kaiju.dek?
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>>151816751
there are none, you dont make an actual kaiju deck
you use them to get rid of your opp's stuff
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>>151816915
So 3 gameciel and 3 kumongous?
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>>151816751
Three of Genex Ally Chemistrer and R-Genex Overseer, two or three Genex Neutron
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literally me
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>>151817032

You run two Gamera in side
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what sort of things would you do with this 15 year old?
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>>151819096
Card games?
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>>151819096
I definitely wouldn't fuck her. That would be gay.
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Long ago, when the pyramids were still young, Egyptian kings played a game of great and terrible power. But these Shadow Games erupted into a war that threatened to destroy the entire world until a brave and powerful pharaoh locked the magic away, imprisoning it within the mystical Millennium Items. Now, 5000 years later, a boy named Yugi unlocks the secret of the Millennium Puzzle. He is infused with ancient magical energies, for destiny has chosen him to defend the world from the return of the Shadow Games just as the brave pharaoh did 5000 years ago
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>>151819519
i dont think millenium world had any reference to shadow games, just "we killed kul elna for the items in order to win a war and our sins unleased zorc since bakura wanted revenge for kul elna"

unless that was just the dub raping things
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>>151819701
that is: the dub raping things worse than i thought

the awful edits they did to zorc's dragon dick still make me laugh
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>>151819096
Get cucked by her brother
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>>151819701
It's from the manga. The pre-DM era was all about different games being played as shadow games. These games show the weakness of the guy who lost them. Ya know, this part where Yugi places a burning lighter on the hand of a criminal which would burn him down when he does an action. And where he tasers a bunch of thugs to death.
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>https://yugiohblog.konami.com/articles/?p=7485
>One wand can only be used to cast one spell at a time, so other magic can’t be used while “Lightsword” is active. This had led some witches to carry multiple wands as a means of using simple mobility spells while maintaining “Lightsword”. Particularly powerful witches have been known to be able to maintain two instances of “Lightsword” at the same time, provided they also carried two wands. In one case, a witch was found to be carrying four wands, one strapped to each arm and each leg. She promptly vanished and hasn’t been seen since.

Why did they set up all this cool ass lore and never have it amount to anything? What the fresh fuck?
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>tfw robo Blue-Eyes isn't playable at all
I'm sad, guys
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>>151821460
>In one case, a witch was found to be carrying four wands, one strapped to each arm and each leg. She promptly vanished and hasn’t been seen since.

Tewart roasting Grievous lmao
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Do we know what's going to be in the D/D/D structure deck yet? If I want to build D/D/D, what should I buy now in preparation for their coming?
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>>151821582
>we could've had waifu grievous
why
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>>151802784
Why are Magicians Robe and the zombie-Scapegoat thing forbidden?
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>>151821648
Just wait for the Extra Pack.
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>>151821892
>no new kaijus
>no new UA
it's not fair
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>>151821474
>Draw a Machine
>Dragon-type
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>tfw haven't lost a match in two weeks
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>>151821648
We need waifu Sheev too.
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>>151822060
>tfw haven't lost an argument in two weeks
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>>151819096
_______________________________________________________________________________hold her hand
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KoA read my posts! make gem knights great again!
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Is Instant Fusion just a meme? Why would you run Instant Fusions, Synchro Fusionist and other Fusion searchers just to play Norden? He's not even good.
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Ok, so I just downloaded YGOpro. How the fuck do you run this? There's no FAQ or anything to be found. How do you run a deck for starters?
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>>151823145
(You)
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>>151823281
You use the Deck Edit function?
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>>151822038
>Draw a Machine
>Call it whatever type you feel like

That honesty seems to be Konami art direction these days. Utopia looks like its a freaking Gundam, all the RaidRaptors look like they are satellites or something.
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>>151823428
I thought the point of RR was that they were all bomber planes styled after birds (except for the satellites, which are for orbital bombardment).
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rank 10 trains?
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>>151823861
Rank 8 Galaxys?
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>>151824005
rank 2 frogs?
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>>151823861
here you go.

>>151824005
who even cares about them.

>>151824128
see
>>151822680
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>>151822680
>tfw meme burger techs that can't even summon the unquestionably best card in the extra
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>>151824328
>not having dna surgery and quillbolt at 3, with 34 draw cards to turbo out treatoad
what are you, a casul?
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Synchrons will win Worlds
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post more meme builds
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>>151824612
I wish.
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>>151797837
Looks like a dick
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>>151824612
>>151824659
Do Synchrons even stand a remote chance against the meta decks?
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>>151824207
Thiscactually looks pretty decent minus the exodd thing.
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Can anyone post a good Lunalight decklist? I wanna use the best qt in the game.
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>tfw you don't want your favourite deck to win worlds to get hit.
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>>151824894
why?
it recycles everything and its level 10.
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>>151824962
the metalpho variant is more optimal imo
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>>151824962
>good
>Lunalight decklist
Lmao
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>tfw retards actually think a +1 is worth banishing 10 cards from your deck
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>>151825376
I know right

It's way more than worth throw that shit into the forbidden list
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>>151824962
All the lunalight cards
Polymerization
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>>151824615
>>151797916
I'm trying to build a Black Luster deck that focuses on Super Soldier's effects and effects that come with the kid knights, namely destroying monsters by battle. I'm looking for help narrowing down the deck closer to 40 cards and hopefully making room for some staples like titty twister and solemn brigade.

Some immediate problems that might jump out are that I'm not using the OG Black Luster Solider, his ritual spell, or preprep. In order to force battles as the theme of this build using Savage Colosseum and Final Attack Orders, I can't have the 9 cards that running him would take. Scrubbed Raid is to stall and/or wipe the opponent's monsters out on their turn with Colosseum. I was thinking of trying to fit in Light of Intervention that way I would force only face up attack monsters from my opponent to ram themselves against Super Solider, but currently I don't have room for it. Anti-magic arrows are more for my turn when I go to attack.
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sup fags
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>>151824962
>>151822708
>>151819701
there is not enough good and not gay art for this game
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I've seen a ton of memers use desires as the first card on the first turn even when their hand has combo potential and that's just crazy to me. Like i was facing a D/D deck, guy had a hand for a lovely board, put decides that desires would be the first card he uses. I just don't get it.
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>>151826117
Add 2 DESIRES, it will justify you running 44 card deck.
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>>151824726
They're playable and didn't get slaughtered by the banlist, so it's possible.
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>>151826117
Take one of each Kuriboh out, that is the worst build I have ever witnessed. Have you even played with this at all? You're going to brick 9.5 times out of 10.
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>>151826117
Why is BLS support so bad?
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>>151826616
I once played a build not dissimilar to his when the support first came out because I didn't know any better. Though bricking is a problem, a bigger one is the fact that even if you shit out a Super Soldier with four effects it can get fucked over by a vanilla Mirror Force and you may as well scoop.
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>>151826789
Then don't bother. It doesn't what effects you grant it if it isn't unaffected by everything. You wait for the Raging Tempest news and pray that shit archetype gets good support.
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>>151826789
Envoy is the same but he's still a game winner when you draw it, most of the time.
Rarely anyone run battle trap anyway. Not even the mirror force.
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>>151826541
You really think that should be the first change to make? Not try and reduce the number of cards first?

>>151826616
I did playtest it. That's why I'm asking for help. There might be people who have ran better Black Luster builds and could tell me if I need to cut copies of things like Gaia or Kuriboh. The only reason I am hesitant to cut Kuriboh like you suggest is because all the ritual spells require exact levels, which seems like it would lead to even deader hands if I'm stuck with Gaia and no Kuriboh.

>>151826679
I have no idea. Super Solider has to be sent to grave to get his death effect and has no protection. It's just a slightly better Envoy of the Beginning but requires going more minus to set up.

>>151826789
That's what anti-magic arrows are hopefully there to prevent.
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What should I use for Ghost Reaper targets in Qlis?
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>>151826931
I was mostly just making a point of how risky relying on BLS is in general. Since battle traps and stuff like Fiendish Chain have been phased out since way back then, you can just replace that statement with Solemns and it'd be the same thing.
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>>151827002
Stop being god awful at this game if you need to resort to Reaper.
>>151826951
Don't run the spells that need exactly levels then.
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>>151827145
Qlis run fuck all in the Extra Deck, why shouldn't I use Ghost Reaper?
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>>151827145
Did you read any of the cards? Super Solider's ritual spells require exact levels only.
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>>151824962
i want to fuck that cat!
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>>151827145
>Stop being god awful at this game if you need to resort to Reaper.
are you fucking retarded?
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>>151827329
He's a trip, and a "new" one at that. Why listen to anything he says?
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>>151827293
Iktfb

Am I a furry if I fapped to her? I've never fapped to anything like that before, but I couldn't resist when I saw her
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>>151827510
Depends if you fapped to her because you like delicious brown anime girls or if it's because you like her paws and cat ears.
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>>151827630
Brown girls desu
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>accidentally fuck up a Level Eater while taking the Maxx C challenge
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Is Dueling Book for real?
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How are my pulls /dng/?
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>>151828735
We can hope.
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>>151828738
Better off buying singles/10
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>>151828738
do you remember which packs you got the secrets from?
want to know if the box can be mapped
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>>151829276
Only vaguely. The 3rd and the 8th packs from the right hand side of the box, or thereabouts. Definitely the right hand side in any case.

>>151829216
I keep hearing this but what's actually the reason behind it?
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Are Metalfoes even viable in the TCG right now?
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>>151829471
0 tops.
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>>151826117
Ignore Super Soldier, he's super shit.
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Post cards that are the reasons others stay banned. I'll start : Cyber Stein
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>>151829276
You cant, the secrets are all over the place and in different ratios. The only correlation is that the ultras and secrets are always next to one another inside the box.
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Anyone have any Panther Dancer wallpapers? She's cute
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>>151829589
Like this you mean anon? I know Super Solider sucks, but I like I said in my post, to keep the theme or goal of the deck "Black Luster kills everything by battle whether they want it or not" (requires my other field spell and traps) I don't have room to run the original Black Luster along with Super Solider like I originally wanted, so I'd have to do one or the other. Unless you or other people have ideas on ratios or other solutions to help me do everything I want.
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>>151829436
>I keep hearing this but what's actually the reason behind it?
This set is utter shit my man. most cards in that screenshot are worth near nothing. I get the joy of opening packs but somethings it's just a better value to buy singles.
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>>151830357
Just wait for INOV and for subterror/spyral to all skyrocket, just like kozmos did
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>>151830357
I guess I can understand that. I'm not really interested in selling off my cards though nor do I really have a good venue to do so in anyway - the cost of buying one box per set doesn't really set me back much.

I'll keep it in mind in the future though.
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>>151830290
Why aren't you running RoTA? You might also consider Armageddon Knight and the djinn that prevents targetin, and maybe zephyros to reuse gateway to chaos.
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>>151825220
>>151825574
Are those the only builds? Kinda disappointing. Isn't it possible to mix them with other Beast-Warriors?
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>>151829589
>>151830290
>>151826117

>>151830709
I had tried in a previous build to run RoTA, Foolish, and 141 and to tech in things like Glow-Up and Jet to make Crystal Wing and such but didn't find it helping. I could try again, but with only 2 targets for RoTA it didn't seem worth it unless I ran something like Armageddon Knight. I didn't think about the ritual dijinns, so thank you! The only problem with Demolisher is it is level 3, which would be a bit harder to use than sticking to 4, 7,1. Even if I stick to the normal Luster and his ritual so I don't need to be exact, I'd be wasting more monsters to make it. I could try subbing out Sphere Kuriboh for Disserere of Rituals and maybe not need anti-magic arrows? I'm not sure yet what would be better. Zephryos is a good idea, but unfortunately Gateway is restricted to once per turn so it gets useless rather quickly even though I want to open with one.
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>>151829941
>Not Exterio

LWfA is pretty cool though, is there any good recent fusion support that would help me build a deck around turboing this shit out?
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>>151832051
Cloudians
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gem knights will win worlds!
lord kek wills it!
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>>151832494
>beating a goldfish with a perfect hand
Wow so amazing
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>>151821814
Few hours late, but they're technically Dark Illusion cards and so are banned with the rest of Dark Illusion. I think they're pointed out specifically because you could get them in the SHVI special editions.
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>>151830357
>tfw I got a box for $20 from a friend that buys cases
>cosmic cyclone broke even for me and I traded it of instantly
>sold the subterrors for 8 each and just bought them back for 3.
feels good when almost absolute shit pulls still makes a profit.
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>>151832494
>OTK Yang Zings
>Yang Zings didn't open Jiaotu
Literally any deck can beat Yang Zings if they don't open Jiaotu.
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What should I run for Regionals in the new season, Deskbots or Synchrons?
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>>151830778
the only beast warrior deck that doesn't completely suck ass is 3 axis fire fist and they have 0 synergy with lunalighs
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>>151835758
Cloudians
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>>151835758
Synchrons *might* snag you an invite if you're lucky.
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>>151835942
How's this?
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I'd build it to go first.
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>>151800702

Floodgate trap hole
Swords of concealing light
Players being not shit.
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>>151836361
Meant for >>151836286, bc I'm apparently a braindead mouthbreather.

I'd drop Raigeki, Maxx, Veiler, Warning, Explorer, a Jet, and maybe a Doppel/Quillbolt or two to make room for Resonators, more consistency cards, and maybe an E-Tele engine or a Lightsworn Snow engine? Also, you need to get an Omega, a Coral Dragon, and a Junk Gardna. All three are pretty important to 'interactive' Synchro spam. I play the Dark no-fun-allowed build, though, so my experience with this version is limited.
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>>151837024
And where the hell is your Trish?
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https://en.yugiohcardmarket.eu/Products/Singles/Dragons+of+Legend%3A+Unleashed/Galaxy-Eyes+Cipher+Dragon

This fucker...
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>>151837368
https://en.yugiohcardmarket.eu/?mainPage=browseUserProducts&idCategory=5&idUser=1023536&editMode=&cardName=&idExpansion=1713&idRarity=&idLanguage=&condition_uneq=&condition=&isSigned=0&isFirstEd=0&comments=&minPrice=&maxPrice=

This absolute motherfucker
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So how do you build Aromages?
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>>151837532
With your dick
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OK, so I know Lunalights aren't good with current stuff, but what if all cards were unbanned? I'm currently testing a Lunalight/Shaddoll deck, but I'm summoning more Shaddolls than Lunalights.

Can anyone help out? It doesn't have to be only with Shaddolls and I don't care about banned cards since I just wanna dick around online. Idk what other OP cards/engines/decks would work.

So yeah, give me ideas for Lunalight unbanned.
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>>151819096
LOOK AT THAT FUCKING CHIN
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>>151829436
It's because you get a guaranteed foil per pack that all the cards value go down. Pot of Desires should be a $100 card if this was a normal booster set but it's easier to pull so more people pull it and the market is flooded with those cards lowering the price since supply > demand.
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>>151836286
Get Omega, Coral Dragon, Trishula, and Junk Gardna.
Add in some resonators, like Synkron and Red. Keep Veiler in your side deck. Drop one of your Formulas. What's the thing between Accel and Tatsunoko?
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>>151839214
Herald
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>>151837532
Jasmine turbo
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>>151840509
No Card of Demise Aroma Stun?
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>Still no V-Jump spoilers
Today is the day, right /dng/?
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>>151831274
>>151830709
>>151830290
>>151829589
>>151826117
What do you all think of this? I put one Super Soldier and his ritual so I have more targets for Manju and so his ritual spell can SS a Luster if I need to. The logic behind it is similar to running one of Buster Blader's quickplay fusion spells.

I'm still not completely satisfied, since I'd rather run max copies of Manju and Charging, but to have room for the Super Soldier stuff and enough copies of the djinns to make running them relevant, I had to cut them to two.
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>>151835758
Deskbot is basically dead if you don't have 003 or 004 in hand
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>>151840810
No, you can have your video explaining Hyper Training and be happy
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>>151802784
Why the fuck is magician of faith banned?
It seems rather underwhelming
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>>151841732
She is the fastest way to get a spell back to your hand. Few cards do that
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>>151841790
Isn't she a flip effect though?
Seems like the game has so many ways of canceling flips and effects at this point.
It just seems slow to me?
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>>151841930
She is a flip effect, yes. What other cards have a 1 for 1 spell recycle effect? What other cards put spells in your hand quickly?
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>>151838091
p-pls? I just want to fuck shit up with my petdeck
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>>151842037
It's a great card, but many players can't see why at first glance. The problem with Magician of Faith is twofold; she only works well in slower formats and her power is directly tied to whatever Spells are legal in the format. This is why in super-slow Goat Control format she was amazing, as resolving Duo, PoG, Graceful or Metamorphosis a second time almost guaranteed victory.

What power spells do we have now? Pantheism banishes itself and can be recycled by Edea. Return of the Dragon Lords banishes itself, and you'd rather use your Normal on a Sage. Pot of Desires loses its lustre after its first activation; the banishing cost makes it too costly to use more than maybe twice.
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>>151842706
With Tatorei, it can pull off 1 Raigeki per turn (considering you protect it). Shit like this was the reason people played Diamond Dude turbo. Except that this time, you don't need to run a 1400 Atk monster and have access to the whole flip toolbox.
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Are there any archetypes that have multiple play styles? Not necessarily at the same time, but being adjustable so that they can adopt various play styles?
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>>151843968
D/D/D
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Music to listen to whilst playing fusion decks? More specifically Shaddolls
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>>151843183
That requires you to run tarotrei and with it a whole other slew of problems. And 1 raigeki per turn hasnt been impressive since Volcanics did it way better.
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you niggs on the train stream right?
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>>151845178
Obviously Master of Puppets
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>>151845178

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r17h9kQbpBg
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>>151821474
I love him.

Her really needed to be a little more considering the cost of summoning.

But back then they were afraid of making him...powerful.
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>>151843968
Blue-Eyes
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has anyone thought of running beatrice in gem knights to send gk fusion?
it's too bad that the only lvl6 gk fusions suck and require named vanillas
are there any good generic lvl6 monsters that let you make fast r6 plays?
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So this is what I'm messing around with atm. Should I switch out shaddolls for another engine/deck? I want to make Lunalights OP as fuck, so any cards are welcome.
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>kaiju train dolls
blue eyes arent going to stand a chance
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>>151846643
post list
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>>151846298
filter the card choices for banned cards only to show up. then see what you can add. no pot of greed?
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>>151846643
>the deck that ran over a whole family, AKA a traveler, a lady and a dog.
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>>151846643
I was thinking about this since last night
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>>151846287
Malicious
E-tele + Risebell
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>>151846741
r8 and h8
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>>151847698
BLUE EYES IS KILL HAHAHAHAHAHA
YOU LOST /dng/
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>>151847698
>That much reliance on the ED
Enjoy getting fucked to death by Monarchs
I don't know why you fucks give a shit about Blue-eyes so much, it's just another petdeck.
Just play Monarchs like everybody else and actually win instead of discussing petdecks all the time
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>>151848485
>Domain lock
Kaiju ;)
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>>151848573
You think that's enough to break it?
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>>151848738
Ummm.... Kaiju? o_O
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>>151848485
>Monarchs
>Having a good Blue-eyes matchup
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Does super poly not work on generic fusions like metalfoes? I tried it and it discarded but then went to the grave. Next turn I used it and it worked. I only had Lunalight Panther Dancer on the field + a metalfoe.
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>>151848864
Not good enough.
You can Kaiju until the cows come home but Monarchs easily recover from it and even generate more advantage than your shitty petdeck does
>>151848964
Literally Stormforth and Erebus
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>>151848964
Monarchs have a fantastic BEWD matchup.
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>>151849068
Good luck generating advantage when Pantheism gets hit and your deck is unplayable :^)

Also how are you gonna keep the domain lock up when Blue-eyes is spamming 3k beaters.
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>>151848485

>composite course drop outs
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>>151849298
Stormforth
do you not get that Monarchs have a good BEWD matchup
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>>151849298
>3k beaters
Domain makes them 3.6k when they attack. But I'm not him and I know BEWD has a great match-up, they can just Ka Domain away.
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>>151849068
>still get to summon Jizu
>punch over shitty monarch
>make dora, pass
gg
You can generate this dick as trains punch you to death in 2 turns
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>>151849340
>tfw I'm fusion scum and I enjoy it
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>>151849475
So basically your entire deck loses to BEWD if they open Alternative and Gospel seeing as you can't use Stormforth twice in the same turn.
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>>151849068
It doesn't matter how fast they recover from getting Kaju'd. Because Monarchs can't get over Dora without using Stormfront.
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>>151849803
They need to stormforth dora three times to get rid of it you mean.
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LunaDoll Anon from before. Fuck, I've found my deck boys.

I don't give a fuck if it ain't legal
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>>151849298
The day Pantheism gets hit is when Tewart limits Dante and that's never happening or he would have done it 2 years ago.
Just use Stormforth and tribute the 3K beaters like always.
>>151849340
The extra deck is for scrubs, we never used it in the beginning and Monarchs are taking us back to the good old days.
>>151849495
Escalation into Erebus, spin Jizu.
Problem solved.
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>>151849942
If you're going to play in unlimited format there are decks that are way more fun than that
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>>151849758
How many tops do blue eyes have now with monarch at full power? Okay then. Imaginary match ups where you draw your perfect out don't count when we have direct results that deck is constantly gettkng shit on in the tcg. When the banlist strikes then that garbage deck that loses to abc can have a celebration.
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>>151849742
Fusion is merely a tool, a stepping stone to fuel the power of Synchro and Xyz
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>>151849758
How do you turn 1 Alt into a win?
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>>151850021
>we never used it in the beginning
>Composite course drop outs
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>>151850140
But I wanted to play Lunalights

>>151850173
>implying Synchro and Xyz scum can defeat the masterrace
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>>151850220
Nobody ever used poly.
It was all Cyber Stein and Metamorphosis in the old days
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>>151850438
And scientist and future fusion.
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>>151850438
>never used it
>but now we used it
Monarch scrubs already backpedaling
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>>151846643
Literally Lava Golem like everybody else uses against Trains.
They're even worse in the TCG with 1 Skill Drain and Monarchs are everywhere so Shaddoll Fusion is dead as fuck.
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>>151850558
>running lava golem
>ever
>trains leaving anything on board besides 1 dora before killing you
el oh el
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>>151850021
>implying you're going to waste your searches on Escalation
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>>151850531
>2016
>actually using poly
How badly does your shitty petdeck get destroyed by Mermails?
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>>151850795
you said they never used the extra, but now you claim they did.
GG monarch shitter
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What should I put in the side deck?
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>>151850795
>>151850438

I just posted poly as a catch all card for fusion.
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>>151850875
What does the side matter when you can't actually play your deck?
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>>151850871
Where did I say Monarchs use the extra?
I think you need to go back to school to read, kid.
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Requesting the ABC compilation picture of topping deck lists. Want to see the hand traps that are used.
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>>151851069
>monarch players can't even follow simple conversation
no wonder they can only play helmet
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>>151850734
>Dora
>enough to kill any body
Train fags can't be this retarded
Everything floats more than Trains can destroy and the second Dora goes to attack mode, it's getting run over.
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>>151850914
someone posted my oc :3
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>>151851249
>can't appreciate the skill of Monarchs
>calls them Helmet
Petdeck shitters are worst.
I love forcing you scrubs to scoop by T3.
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>>151851049
>he doesn't play unlimited

Pleb spotted
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>>151851728
>unlimited
wew lad
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>>151851237
Just use ygodr yourself, retard.
You don't have to check more than 3 tournaments to realize how they run ABC.
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>>151851310
>BA
>running over dora
kek
Name one thing that can run over dora without getting popped by Derricrane
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>>151851798
What's the matter Anon? It's fun af and right now the TCG meta is horseshit.
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>>151851862
Dark Requiem.
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the next meta.

fear it.
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>>151852929
remember when dogma deep draw turbo was a playable deck
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>>151852062
>chain dora to rank up magic
>attack over it next turn
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>>151852929
>REEE
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>>151852929
>REEE
ok that was clever
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>>151846643
Trains aren't going to do shit in the TCG.
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>>151849340
>tfw you double major in fusion and pendulum
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>>151848485
>it's just another petdeck.

Already topped in ARG and will win worlds as well as start topping in YCS. Meanwhile banlist will make Monarchs the new petdeck in town.
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Should I?
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>>151854752
>buying cardboard
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>>151854752
unless you need multiple things in it then no
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>>151854752
No. Just save your money for ABC. Monarchs are going to hit soon, OEM is pretty much irrelevant and could get hit even more, and Synchrons are irrelevant.
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>>151853634
>chains Fog Blade
gg.
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>>151855231
>chain Twin Twisters
heh. nothin personnel..... kid
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>>151855231
>now you can't attack it
>get your Requiem kaiju'd next turn
PK players everyone
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>play deck with banned cards like pot of greed, future fusion
>retards that can't read join duel
>they start having a shitfit when I use said cards

Why did they join in the first place?
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Why does ABC get such retarded floating power?
>ABC Dragon Dildo tags out into A B and C
>they plus
>attack over them, literally a free scapegoat
>they can just banish all 3 from grave next turn to summon ABC again
what retard designed this shit
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>>151852929
What is the point of this even?
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>>151855764
just use System Down and watch them insta scoop
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>>151855703
>play with anime cards
>keep drawing until i get exodia
>even if I pissed off rngesus and got 4 pieces in hand and the last is at the bottom of the deck, stupid broken anime cards can make it work
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>>151855892
siegfried and his pet crystal dragon.
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>>151855764
>what retard designed this shit

Welcome to Konmai. The worst thing that ever happened to YGO.
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>>151855149
But I don't find ABC fun
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>>151855948
>draw the unsearchable out to deal with 1 monster they can set up again with ease
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>>151855764
Use System Down, Ghost Reaper +Dragon Buster, or Vanity's.
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>>151856084
you'll take the mecha dragon D and like it!
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>>151855963
>not using Card of Desperation then using 3 Blade Graveyard, then using Dark Factory to pick the rest
Heh.
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>>151855948
System Down does fuckall since they'll just tag out and equip the green fucker on yellow or blue and have all three monsters available again. Kill the fucking field first is what I'm saying.
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>>151855764
You shouldn't be surprised when Konami fails at card design for the bajillionth time.
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>>151856572
>they chain tag out to System Down
>all ABC pieces get banished before field effect activated
???
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Why did Konami make cards like Super Poly and Future Fusion just to fucking ban them and make them useless to people?

FF is so fucking fun and I think it could come back to 1 along with super poly. Fusion and Ritual decks just get shat on.
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>>151855479
Break Sword to pop Fog Blade and Dora
/Dng/ everybody, doesnt even know meta decks
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>>151856985
Because they want you to play R4NK.
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>>151856985
>FF goes to one
>infernoids become T1
one or more means as much as you damn well please.
resolving 1 FF for tierra will mill your entire infernoid monster line-up in a single move.
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>>151856985

Chou yuuogou isn't banned in OCG land.

Tcg sucks.
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>>151856985
You can tell the same thing to all other banned card.

Now you know how stupid you are.
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>>151857179
>implying there are no outs to tierra

Shitty r4nk decks can just lighning over it. For the grave you can just run imperial iron wall.

>>151857294
>now you know how stupid you are

I bet you're one of those fags that thinks Construct and Towers needs to stay banned.
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>>151857371
Towers and Construct are fine, Future Fusion opens up the door for max degenracy.
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>>151857059
>implying you didnt blow a breaksword to make the dark rebellion
Now enjoy getting pierced for game, kiddo
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>>151857059
For that, you need Fog Blade in field, Rebellion, most likely from Break Sword created with 2 PK, then another Break Sword.

-4 to get over Dora. Not a bad deal I say.

>>151857371
>I bet you're one of those fags that thinks Construct and Towers needs to stay banned.
No. I'm the one saying that Pot of Greed, Giant Trunade, Painful Coice, and Last Will should be banned.
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>>151856941
They'll tag out the moment the turn starts, by the time you get to play System down it's too late.
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>>151857371
>implying it even matters whether or not tierra gets summoned
the point isnt that you get out tierra, its that future fusion mills your entire monster line-up at once.
you can send every single infernoid in your deck to the graveyard where they can be used.

pretty much every noid deck would be 3 ofs every monster with triple left arm offering to search FF and triple avidity and the one BFADD.
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>>151857371
Tierra herself is fucking irrelevant, it's the fact that you milled your whole fucking deck into the yard that matters.
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>>151857529
>max degeneracy
It doesn't though. Most decks don't even run fusion cards, and remember it's at 1, so decks won't even be going into it that often. The same could be said about raigeki, since it wipes the opp's board, but that came back to 1.

>>151857676
All those cards do need to stay banned, but FF and SP can definitely come back. How many decks actually run fusions?

>>151857828
>>151857828
You'd have shit like Necrovalley and Iron wall tho.
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>>151857797
>they tag out before they banish something with ABC
>use System Down anyway, and banish other 2 pieces that isn't equipped from field spell
I thought ABC is for disruption on opponent's turn via target banishing. Without it, they just have many monster on field, which even Volcanic can handle just fine.
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>>151858039
and i'd have shit like twin twister.

how are you going to use necrovalley and iron wall when i go first?
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>>151858170
You tag out the moment your opponent's turn starts, you don't care if they die since they all float and even if they end up in the yard they work for another ABC on your turn.
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>>151858039
Raigeki came back because powercreep.
FF can't because FGD. And Tierra I guess. Full field and hand sweep is pretty fucking powerful.

SP is at 1 in OCG, and most likely a game winner with shit like Starve Venom and Metal Fusion.

And how did Necrovalley and Iron Wall stop FF from summoning Tierra anyway.
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Budget build thoughts.

Mostly on the side. I'm pretty comfortable with the main.
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>>151858294
Stop acting as if FF would destroy every deck. I know it's powerful but it's easily counterable and all your argument has been is how noids will be broken. That's literally 1(one) deck.

Also, the chances of drawing FF turn 1 are extremely low, even if you run left arm offering. You'd have a higher chance of losing FF with Avidity. 3 TT vs 6 grave lock down cards, possibly 9 if you use terraforming.

>>151858602
FGD? Also, I meant from using Noids effs in the grave. To prevent Tierra you just pop FF. I know Raigeki came back dut to power creep, but I think FF could too. Seriously, all you people have mentioned is 1 deck that would be OP.
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>>151858509
>tagging out when opponent's turn start
Take off your helmet please. ABC is not just an OTK tool.
Also, have you read System Down?
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>Destruction removal is shit
>Make deck full of bounce effects, shuffle effects, summon negation effects
>Opponent flips Vanity's Emptiness
>Realize I have no outs
Ban when?
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>>151823281
Common sense.

>>151823026
>make gem-knights great

>>151849340
>composite students majoring in surrendering
Kek'd
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Give me a good Starve Venom deck.
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>>151859136
It's shit unless you use SuperPoly
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>>151858875
System down does fuckall against a blue or yellow equipped with green which is why you tag out in the standby phase
>but what if they clean your board and then use system down
You still get two cards from the two greens and one thing back from the yard from yellow before they can even use system down.
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>>151858039
>How many decks actually run fusions?
Decks would start using them if either Future Fusion or Super Poly were legal, that's the point. The latter is already used in OCG as basically a side-deck option, and it's the only reason that Neo Ultimate has ever seen any play there (before people either switched to Twin Burst or gave up the idea entirely); the former is just asking for Dragon and Machine decks to dump all the shit they want, your barely-searchable outs be damned.
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HOLY SHIT IT'S OUT
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/
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>>151859367
That's not how you photoshop, dingus.
Konami releases the whole list of limited cards, not just the changes.
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>>151859367
>wavering eyes coming back to 3
too obvious, try again tomorrow
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>>151858859
>FGD?
You know, the fusion with the highest attack beside Dragon Master Knight.
The mill potential from FF is so fucking powerful. Too powerful to let it off the banlist.
Just splash a Metal and you can make FF into "Mill 2 monster you like from the deck".
If Foolish ever goes to 3, then we can talk.
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>>151858859
remembuh me?
imagine what decks like blue eyes would do if they could mill shit like 2 ancient stones, 1 legend stone, 1 arkbrave, and 1 dragon spirit
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>>151859367
Why is debris dragon semi?
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>>151859367
>thinking Tewart would allow 3 Stratos and 3 Shadow Mist to exist
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>>151859584
quickdraw plant ptsd probably
black rose used to be at 1 you know
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What are some outs for Towers? I need to know before he comes back.
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>>151858859
>Stop acting as if FF would destroy every deck.
i've literally only mentioned infernoids.

you could run 5 headed dragon or NBEUD in blue-eyes, easy access to fusion dante in BA, D/D/Ds would get a huge boost from FF, HEROes would get a consistency boost, shaddolls could use it, red-eyes could use it, metalfoes could abuse it, CyDra could use it.

no, not all of those decks would be T1 with FF, but most of them would get a massive boost from it.

>3 TT vs 6 grave lock down cards, possibly 9 if you use terraforming.
what deck is trying to be that grave negation heavy?

>losing FF with Avidity
you're thinking of reasoning.
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>>151859747
Utopia Lightning
Any level/rank 10 monster with a destruction effect
Last Strix into Ultimate Falcon into Seven Sins

Those are just the first to come to mind
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>>151858859
>m-muh floodgates

literally never stopped crazy aggro decks from dominating, see EMEM and anto-spell fragrance and Dragon Rulers and all those floodgates you just listed

You would hardly ever need to resolve anything other than 1 FF to win yourself the game since that's a free Hope Harbringer Photon Bounzer + any relevant rank 7 or 5 followed by an OTK with Lilith next turn, and even if they somehow power through all that you have Tierra to hand eat together with a couple N'tss pops. You could easily run dumb turbo shit like Into The Void (searchable though not great t1) and Magical Mallet to see FF T1 over 80% of the time.
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>>151859264
>use System Down
>now they only have 1 monster on field, equipped with yellow
Then you can OTK. And they have minimal disruption on you, since they decide to tag out on standby phase.
From there, the most they can do is block three attack, and that's only if you didn't remove the last monster with other means.
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>>151860592
i'm glad you realized your mistake
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>>151859347
>>151859528
>>151859852
>>151859998
I still think they should try it for a format. It would change up the meta and you just know Konami would introduce another even more OP set to put it to shame.

But yeah, I see your points with Blue-Eyes and shit.

I just wanna play Fusion
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>>151860774
I'm usually RUM'd to the gums un my defense.
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>>151861106
Maybe they will bring FF that banish instead.
I mean, no deck goes plus from banishing lots of stuff, right?
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>>151861106
Snatch Steal was unbanned for a format
It was awful
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>>151861395
Maybe if you were a shitter. And now there is twin twisters and cosmic cyclone and a million other ways to hit s/t
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Why are the singles for Unleashed, especially the Ultra Rares so expensive. Fuck those greedy bastards!
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>>151861343
That would be a pretty good errata. Would be pretty decent in Shiranui together with Dragonecro.
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>>151861982
Because the set isn't out yet and they always overcharge for presales, you shitter.
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>>151861395
Now there's kaiju and Stormforth which are arguably worse.
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>>151861343
>banishment
congrats, you made ritual beasts and shiranui tier 0
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>>151862248
>shitter

All right, who invited Reddit over here?
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>>151862485
>shitter is a Reddit term
You're trying too hard to spot Reddit.
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>>151851550
Dude, Monarchs are pretty fucking helmet. Tell me ONE decision that Monarchs have to make that isn't given to you by the deck.
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>>151862407
>shiranui tier 0

you overestimate the deck way too much, a single unsearchable power card wouldn't do anything
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>>151861923
There's million ways to hit S/T and Domain Monarch still topped.
There's million ways to hit S/T and Kozmo still topped.
There's million ways to hit S/T and Pendulum Mashup still topped.
Snatch steal is game winner the moment you get it and you know it. I don't think even DD can escape it since it's not targeted by card effect.

No Change of Heart variant that's usable the turn you draw into it should be allowed in the game. And Snatch Steal effectively don't even have cost anyway.
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>>151861106
tierra is a strong play by itself.
adding FF in the mix will be worse.

second turn against the AI, they went first.
it never ends well for your opponent when you can use 10 mats.
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>>151862203
>errata
No. Fuck no. Errata completely remove the possibility of FF coming out the same as before. Just make new card with FF's that banish.

>>151862407
>Ritual Beast
Read the Fusion monster.
>Shiranui
Shiranui deck isn't that good anyway.
They need setup for this to be good, or it just become, "Target and Destroy 2 face-up card on the field". Might be good for setup, but it won't push them into t1 or something. Mostly because Draconecro is strictly 2 Zombie only.
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>>151863442
What the fuck are you on about 'no errata' you cuck? There's absolutely zero chance of FF coming back as is, so it's either an errata or a new card.

It will never come back.
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>>151863442
>Errata completely remove the possibility of FF coming out the same as before. Just make new card with FF's that banish.

It will never ever come out same as before, just accept it.

They would have to ban half the cards in the game for FF to come back without an errata.
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>>151862407
What if they banish facedown or have their effects negated
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>>151862808
If you're not running target protection then you're shit
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>>151863803
>>151863870
If TER and Raigeki can come back, then maybe FF can come back too.
In the far off future, maybe, after powercreep, but until then, just leave it for Traditional or something.
And you're essentially making a different card anyway. Sangan, CED, and that one Synchro is only adding restriction. Errata FF into banish? No fucking way.
Now if you're talking about FF errata'd into making the material can't be played for 5 turn or something, I can see konami doing that. And you're gonna hate them for that anyway.
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>>151864480
>TER
metamorphosis is banned, and never coming off, the only other ways to summon are with IF, which lock you out of your BP, or by fusion summoning it normally which no man has ever done because its fucking stupid.

it had no reason to stay on the ban list.
>>
Why is this general alive

Isn't DN dead
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>not playing yugioh waifu simulator
>wasting time with the autism known as TCG
Faggots
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>>151864905
We use ygopro now.
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29445698
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>>151865380
>now
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>>151864905
And nothing of value was lost.
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buster blader for machine type when?
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>Banlist is confirmed to remain the same through YCS Rimini and YCS Toronto
I guess
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>>151866008
Machine King?
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>>151865214
>tfw TF3 is literally just grinding for days since they couldn't be arsed to implement a story
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>>151798783
THANK YOU KAZ SENSEI

Saffira, or Hieratic, support.
>>
Give me a waifudeck that can actually beat meta
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>>151864667
are you confusing instant fusion with soul charge
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>>151864480
>If TER and Raigeki can come back, then maybe FF can come back too.

TER and Raigeki are not broken engine pieces like FF, you can't pull off 1 card FTKs with them.

Same reason Rescue Cat will never come off the list.
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>>151864667
>IF
>lock you out of BP
Heh.
I'm waiting for a day when we get FF/Premature Burial/Ultimate Offering unbanned and we just had the same reaction as TER unbanned.
Premature Burial might be unbanned in the near future if they errata it with CotH's "When this card leaves the field, destroy that target".
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>>151866727
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>>151866727
blue eyes
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>>151866749
read TER, then read IF.
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>>151866983
TER isn't instant fusion, TER is TER
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>>151866796
>1 card FF FTK
Does it involves Brionac?
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>>151867064
>IF
the fusion monster special summoned by this effect cannot attack.
>TER
other monsters cannot change their battle positions or attack.

IF makes TER unable to attack.
TER makes everything else unable to attack.
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Would a card with this effect get banned?
>This card cannot be negated. Banish face down every card on your field, graveyard, and in your hand. Activate one magic or trap card from your deck, or summon any one monster from your deck ignoring the summoning conditions. You cannot conduct your battle phase this turn.
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>>151866187
great, now we need a fusion version of machine king
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>>151867303
>Activate one magic or trap card from your deck
>Activate one magic
>magic
it'll get put on the lawsuit list.
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>>151867257
therefore, TER locks things besides itself out of attacking while it's alive

IF doesn't stop your battle phase
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>>151867303
Why would anyone care if it doesn't exist
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Can you use Honest on a face-up defense position monster? I assume you can, I'm just asking.
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>>151867303
ecks dee rofl hehe
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>>151867424
Alright, one pokemon or magic card.
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>>151867473
On an opponents? Sure.
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>>151867473
If your opponent attacks your def position monster, sure. I don't see the point, though ,except to throw a light monster into your graveyard.
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For XYZ Wonder, do I have to use up all monsters on my side or can I decide how much I use as XYZ material?
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>>151798783
THANK YOU KAZ SENSEI

Can you give us REAL XYZ - Dragon Cannon support? The trap was cute but I want to run the OG unions.
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>>151867717
No, I mean a face-up defense position monster I control, when my opponent's monster attacks.
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>>151867964
Inverse Universe
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>>151856985
Deskbot FTK literally
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>>151824962
a good Lunalight decklist? I wanna use the best qt in the game.
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>>151867964
Okay, follow up Question.

Are their any Traps,Monsters, or Quick-Play Spells, that change the Battle Position of any 1 monster, besides Book of Moon?
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>>151856985
FF literary allows you to send every machine to the grave. Or 5 dragons. Or every Worm. And it allows you to pull off some other degeneracy.
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>>151868936
Well, book of eclipse switches EVERY monster to face down defense for turn, and it's quickplay
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>>151869143
>send every machine to the grave
For what? Deck thinning? Is there even a machine monster with good grave effect? Crystron?
Worm is shit. FGD is a good point though.
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>>151868936
Final Attack Orders, Light of Intervention
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>>151870189
Bagturtle has a good grave effect.
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>>151869143
>>151857179
>>151867189
>>151866796
>>151864480
>>151861343
>>151857179
>>151859528
>>151859852
>>151857828
Since when were Fire Fists this broken?
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>>151870302
Bad joke, didn't laugh.
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>>151870302
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>>151870291
>Bagturtle
?
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>>151870519
Or just turtle... I guess I confused it with bagworm.
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>>151870875
>once per duel
Hardly even worth it to dump.
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>>151870189
An exodia deck with machines, draw cards, and triple FuFu. It'd top entire planets, my friend.
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>>151871480
that's what your mom said when she had you in a public bathroom
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>>151856985
>>151857371
why does dng attract shit players like moths to a flame?
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>>151871965
I don't know, why do you post here?
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>>151872032
was that damage control?
embarrassing desu
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>avatarfagging in a general
pathetic desu
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>>151871847
Then you brick with the machine. Bad idea.
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>>151872134
>>151871965
>Avatarfags
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>>151871965
It's a good thing, really. At least they'll die and makes the world a better place.
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>>151872134
You're representing yourself as MegaCapitalNigger the character. Yet you have the audacity to call others stupid.
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>>151871965
>>151872134
Gem knights suck
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Help a nigga out here i downloaded ygopro for android but i can;t get the images to show up after i extract them to a folder in obb

what do i need to do?
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>>151872642
>>151872891
>>151872893
thanks for the (you)s boys
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>>151873185
see >>151872134
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>>151870495
Hey stop stealing my MEME you fucking degenerate.

also Chaos Max Dragon a BEST.
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>>151872642
>tripfags
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>>151873185
Why does she hold pararell world fusion?
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>>151873604

Don't be a drop out boy
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>>151873135
someone pls
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>>151873604
>he failed fusion study
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GIVE ME YOUR BEST GEMKNIGHT BUILDS
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>>151867303
Summon Sophia
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You can use pre-errata cards in an official duel right? You just have to make sure that you follow the new errata for that card?
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>>151873764
>drop out boy
You mean a Slifer Slacker
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>>151874654
Pretty sure that falls under the foreign card rule.
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>>151874654
Yes

>>151874597
Summon horakthy
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>>151874778
>We fucked up that card
>Yes, you paid for it, but you still can't use it without a errata'd copy.
That would be a dick move.
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>>151874778
What's the foreign card rule?
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>>151875106
It's mostly for rarity whores
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>>151875170
You can use a foreign (TCG) card, so long as you have an English copy of it on hand to show to the other player or judge.
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What's his deck named?
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>>151875305
I still don't understand why it's just someone's OC that has nothing to do with the archetype.
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>>151875295
Does a printout of the card count?
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>>151875295
That's an old rule, nowadays you can show them the cards effect on the yugioh wiki if the judge has an ipad on them.
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>>151875305
The Demon Slayer, but you can just call it your prom date you ugly sack of shit.
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>>151875489
You mean you can do that if the judge doesn't give a shit.
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>>151875587
FUCK YOU
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>>151875305
Dark law's fuckboi
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Julia Hedberg who works in Konami has just posted on Zodiac that the current banlist will be in effect until after YCS Rimini and YCS Toronto (27-28 August).

So if we get the list released it will most likely be after these two events
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>>151874175
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>>151875980
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>>151876118
thanks bud
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>>151875980
>Have to live with this shitty banlist until AT LEAST the fucking 29th
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>>151875980
I jsut want my towers back...
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>>151875561
Holy fuck, I like that first list.
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>>151870189
Deskbot base, chimeratech overdragon
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>>151875980
>Julia (((Hedberg)))
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>>151875980
>>151876492
>>151876823
>>151876917
What are you faggots so upset about? This literally only matters if you're playing at YCS Rimini or Toronto.
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Was Julia ever a duelist or did she just judge her whole life?
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Deskbot 010 that gets 500Atk for each banished monster when?
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>>151877549
When future fusion returns
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How do I into d/d/d
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>>151877402
Because if you play online with banned cards you either get bitched out by people who didn't read even if it's not broken, or you get people with perfect exodia OTK wielding 3 pots of greed, 3 days of peace, etc.
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>>151877402
I want the banlist now.
I want Towers off so I can can use something stronger than Stealth as my and Construct off so I can start playing Shaddolls again.
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>>151877284
Chimeratech Overdragon won't makes a dent in meta even with FF. FF summon is too slow and too disruptable.
Deskbot base, well that's another good point. Goddamnit.
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When will KoJ takeover and fire these cucks and unify the banlists
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Is magic drain good to main?
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Reveal 1 Fusion Monster in your Extra Deck and Banish, from your Main Deck, the Fusion Materials that are listed on that Fusion Monster. During your 2nd Standby Phase after this card's activation, Special Summon the revealed Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck and equip it with this card, but you cannot conduct your Battle Phase or activate effects for the rest of this turn. (This Special Summon is treated as a Fusion Summon.) You cannot Special summon during the turn this card is activated. When this card leaves the field, destroy that target. When that target is destroyed, destroy this card.

could it come back?
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>>151878659
Whenever the fans start complaining about it enough for KoJ to care, so never since TCG players are a bunch of cucks.
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>>151878961
MST :^)
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>>151875980
No, she said that any list that happens will not be in effect there. What will probably happen is what happened last year: It'll be announced before that weekend, then take effect AFTERWARDS. Those will probably be the last 2 events on the current list.
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>>151878961
>activate effects for the rest of this turn.
>You cannot Special summon during the turn this card is activated.

to 3
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Were Crystal Beasts ever good?
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>>151878451
I was thinking about the combo ff send everything activate base, activate overload fusion, but yeah is not much probably such a good hand, only can search ff with left arm offering
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>>151878961
Select 5 cards from your Deck and show them to your opponent. Your opponent selects 1 card among them. Add that card to your hand and banish the remaining cards.

Could it come back?
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>>151879442
/dng/ can't into basic English I don't know why you're trying
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>>151879909
Just trying to stop feeding that guy (You)s.
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>>151879495
Yeah they almost took Worlds once
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>>151879442
>No, she said that any list that happens will not be in effect there.

Did you even read the post you're replying to? That guy said the new list won't be in effect for those two tournaments.
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>>151878961
>>151879552
Shiranui tier 1
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>>151880195
He said, and I quote, "So if we get the list released it will most likely be after these two events."

I'm trying to say that what will happen will probably be like what happens a lot, that the list will be dropped right before that weekend, but won't take into effect until after. I.E. the last November list was posted on the 29th of October, but came into effect the 9th of November.
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OK i figured out the picture problem but i'm missing some, any help?
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>there are people in this thread that believe that Monarchs take skill
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>>151880482
>caring about skill
Hi pojo. 90% of yugioh's meta decks were 123, abc(see what I did there)
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>>151880482
>There are people who call a deck unskilled because it shits on their pet decks
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>>151880482
>tfw D/D/D required skill
>tfw now it's turned into a helmet spam siegfried crystal wing.dek
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>>151880958
B-but m-muh keikaku xD
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>>151881096
Why are you shitposting?
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>>151881172
He's telling the truth. A lot of dddoubt players think that the deck is the most complex deck ever when in reality it's just flowchart.dek
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>>151880958
Fuck, how's that? I just wanted to pick them up expecting something versatile.
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>>151880958
d/d/ds aren't helmet because they have a variety of options open to them
whereas monarchs, a rue helmet deck, only have on play: activate pantheism, draw, search, normal edea, domain lock
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>>151881427
>abc
>activate field spell, summon gadget, set all the stun, pass
>DDD
>can make hundreds of different complex boards with every card in the deck an individual unique tool as a means to that end, no two hands are alike, has to think and proactively make moves on the opponent
>anywhere comparable in skill level
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>>151881470
It's flowchart.dek if you go first. If you have to work around Solemns and your Contracts/Ragnaroks getting Twin Twistered or the like while going second or if your first hand can only shit out one Trishula on turn 1 or something, there's a ton more variety involved for both players.

It's still not as versatile as some people want to herald it as even in that situation, but people discrediting it entirely as some kind of helmet deck are wrong too.
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>>151881569
>>151881470
They have a lot of options but why risks going for the contributed plays when you can get siegfried and crystal wing in lots of different ways
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>>151881667
>>151881667
>Let me choose the most simple play the deck has to prove why the decks can't be compared
lol
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>>151882015
Name a complex ABC play. Ill wait.
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>>151880464
Pls someone help how do i get the missing pictures
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What do you think Konami will hit in the banlist?
>Ban: Ehther, Dante, Dark Destroyer
>Limit: Pend Sorc, Tincan, Beatrice
>Semi: Terraforming, Magical Abductor, Monkeyboard
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>>151881857
So it's better in that regard to most other decks, but nothing outstanding because there are a few obvious combos to play. Alright then.
I'll keep looking into them, they seem pretty neat and I'm mostly a shitter so something with a bit more depth is welcome.
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>>151882434
Limit Kozmotwon its a self replacing card
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>>151882434
They're not going to ban Dark Destroyer, only cards that should be hit in the deck are Kozmotown to 1, Tincan to 1 and Dark Destroyer to 1 or 2
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>>151882586
The retarded thing is that they can trigger it themselves through Sliprider or the landwalker thing
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>>151882434
>semi: terraforming

why? ;_;
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>>151882672
>'THEY AREN'T GONNA BAN DARK DESTROYER'
Consider the following:
El Shaddoll Construct
Shurit
Towers
Wavering Eyes
:^)))
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>>151882434
>Semi: Terraforming
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>>151882672
Dark Destroyer is the only reason the deck is good
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>>151882751
admit it, terraforming is basically the next rota. Way too generic and helps way too many decks do busted shit consistently.

Planet pathfinder is balanced, terraforming is not.
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>>151882785
You know what none of those cards are/were? TCG exclusive.
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>>151882785
It was either Construct or Shadoll fusion, they made the right choice
Towers and Wavering eyes deserved it bro
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>>151882859
it's a double-edged sword

on one hand, it can hit meta decks, on the other it can hit petdecks ;_;

just like tour guide i guess
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>>151882996
>towers
>deserved

Maybe then, but certainly not now. That and Construct shoul come back. Towers at 1, Scout at 2, Construct at 3.
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>>151882859
>terraforming is basically the next rota

No it isn't. If decks are abusing ROTA, then the decks that abuse it are the ones to get hit. Terraforming isn't as overpowered as people make it out to be. And even then if you're running triple Terraforming in your deck, then there's obviously a consistency problem. It's going to stay as is.

>>151882785
All of those cards listed do more than one effect while summoned/brought to the field. Dark Destroyer only acts as a 3000 ATK beatstick most of the time. It's only going to get limited.

Screencap this.
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>>151882751
>>151882819
This is what I think Konami will do, not what I would do. Remember, Konami are retarded.
>>151882865
Yeah, but you know what was actually TCG-Exclusive and banned?

GATEWAY OF THE SIX
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>>151882859
Rota should go to 3.
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>>151882859
Terraforming is more like fossil dig than anything
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>>151882434
>>151882586
>>151882672
>>151882675
>>151882843
you must be shit players if you can't even play around a shit deck like kozmo
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>>151883171
Great Construct to 3 and ban shadoll fusion happy?
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>>151883319
I can play around Kozmo even WITHOUT the Lightning, retard. The main problem I have with it is that Dark Destroyer is an inherently bad card for future decks to deal with. In addition, remember the reason Towers was banned too?
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>>151883467
Shaddolls go back to full power, stop being salty anon they did nothing wrong.
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>>151883576
Answer the question do you rather have shadoll fusion or construct?
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>>151883467
What the fuck are you on about, you shitter? Construct can be outed by anything, not to mention that 99.9% of decks now float.

Dolls better be back just sp shitters like you can rage.
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>>151883319
Gee I wonder who could be behind this post

No, but seriously. Kozmo isn't difficult to play around, it's just loaded with too much of everything with no down cost whatsoever.
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>>151883694
Construct isn't the problem its light monsters that can be sent with shadoll fusion but you can't ban shadoll fusion without raping the deck so construct was the hit
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>>151883656
There's no point in having one without the other. It's like saying "would you rather have brilliant fusion or seraph" or "norden or instant fusion"
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>>151883837
It's nothing like that, shadolls are based around shadoll fusion, you can't hit shadoll fusion without ruining the concept of the deck so they have to ban construct

This ain't hard to get senpai it's like banning the exodia head
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>>151884110
But its not banned
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>>151884110
Shaddolls are completely dead right now because there's no construct, keeping either construct or shaddoll fusion on the list will achieve the same result.
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>>151884289
Its not dead they just can't compete with the meta right now, but it can put some work against other decks they haven't been hit as hard as qlis or necroz
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>>151883738
Yet it can't beat BA/Monarchs/Pendulum remnants
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>>151884573
>It's not dead, but it's dead
Sorry, what?
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>>151883819
brilliant does the exact same, do you want to ban seraphinite too?
damage juggler is gone now so what's the issue?
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>>151884701
How many gem knights get grave effects?

shadoll fusion is a +3 or more with construct
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>>151884672
You are everything wrong with the game today
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>there are people itt who think unbanned Shaddolls are op

Holy fuck what the fuck is wrong with you shittters? Just because they rape your petdecks doesn't mean they're op. Dolls need to be at full power again.
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>>151884573

>It's not dead
>Literally the key firgure of the deck and the lore is banned
>Not topping anything at all
>Not being used as an engine in anything topping at all
>Not Dead

I want the Reds to leave.
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>>151885356
>>151885196
>>151883319
Why do people like avatarfagging as this guy?
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>>151884573
Not being able to compete with the meta is the definition of dead.
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>>151885196
Imagine you're konami trying to ban anything that gives free advantage (see upstart) and are trying to shill a new product but shadolls don't stop being meta

what do you do?
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>tfw your favourite deck will never be good

Who is she, /dng/? Mine is Dolls/Lunalights/Ritual Beasts
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>>151885592
Blue-Eyes
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>>151885457
Because glorious fusion race,
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>>151885457

2 of those were posts about fusion

Iunno about the kozmo dude

>>151885592
>never

But dolls were good.
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>>151885515
Being completely unplayable is the definition of dead and if you think shadolls are just that maybe you're just bad at the game ever think of that?
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>>151884901
lazuli, but it's not opt so you can plus pretty hard off of it
what good light monsters can you send for construct?
outside of clown and turtle I can't think of anything
>shaddolls doing what they were designed to do
>implying current meta decks can't plus even harder
pantheism, tincan, town etc.
full power shaddolls would do nothing in this format outside of a few rogue tops
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>>151885592
Fluffals are my favourite deck in the entire world, but they need waaaayyyyy more consistency before they can be meta. or a future fusion, that'd fix the deck real quick
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>>151885812
Look man, I'm the biggest petdeckfag around, but you brought up that Shaddolls still work as a petdeck in the middle of a meta discussion. That's just silly.
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>>151885592
zombies(using isolde)
tramids
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>>151885805
Don't remind me. Konami is too jewish too give them back full power.
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>>151885812
>implying non-meta decks are playable
Someone get this retard out of here.
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>>151885841
Lightsworns also [damage juggler/spoiler]
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>>151885973
I never mentioned the meta, this all started with the banlist talk
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>>151885457
He makes funny faces.
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>>151885592
Buster Blader
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>>151886013
what did he mean by this
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>>151886016
>lightsworns
irrelevant
>juggler
anon...
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>>151885860
They are consistent enough but they don't have good fusions.
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>>151885592
Gemini
Buster Blader
Crystrons
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How to build good Lunalight deck? The Metalfoe one keeps bricking on me. Like, I know how to use foes in yang zings, but wtf do I do with the trap in Lunalights?
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>>151886252
>tfw the best character in arc-v is an old dude in pajamas
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>>151886013
You want to know how i know you have autism?
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>>151886213
They have an armades, a norden for their fusions, a JD with enough mats, a wolf that never stops attacking and goyo that summons the monster in attack. What else do they need? A crystal wing?
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>>151885196
>he doesn't see the danger of a splashable Shaddoll suite being played in anything that can run lights
It's like people just don't get the absurd hybridization posibilities made possible by a single Construct. Like, Jesus Christ, do you *really* want to see Blue-Eyes Shaddolls shit on everything?

Ulti-Canna and Shurit are the ONLY DUEA archetype-specific cards that unequivocally deserve a bump up on the list. I will never understand why people want degenerate gatekeepers or ubiquitous threefold Foolishes running around everywhere.

Not gonna lie though, it'd still be cool as hell to see it all back.
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>>151885592
MPB
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>>151885592
Fluffals, Trains and Spellbooks.
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>>151885812

The only person bad at the game here is the one trying to push that shaddolls are some how Ok without construct.
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>>151885196
nononono
They are just waifufags
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>>151885592
Burning Aby-
Oh wait
>>
Shaddolls can't even keep up with current meta decks. Theyre slow, inconsistent, and a single shaddoll fusion doesn't do fucking shit without clown engine to make it degenerate. They can't even break Crystal Wing + Harbinger boards, who fucking cares?
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>>151886353
ENJOY
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>>151800702
Utopia the Lightning.
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>>151886435
>shaddolls
>danger

Have you seen the meta recently? We're gonna have ABCs, Metalfoes, Blue-Eyes and fuck knows what else. Dolls will need full power to be able to keep up with them.

And no, just because a deck can be diverse and splash in different stuff doesn't mean it's op. It means it's a good archetype that should encourage deck building.
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>>151886636
Anon. Think for a second. Think REAL good now. What meta deck uses LIGHTS, likes Level 8s, and would fucking love free Foolish Burials if you keep an ED monster on the field?
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>>151886754
I see reading isn't your strong point.
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>>151886479
>Gee the ban of one card and the semi-limited of another card nobody played at 3 really killed the deck, you can literally make no plays now

come on son
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Post yfw there won't be a banlist until ABC is out here so Tewart can kill them and lovetap Kozmo
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>>151886808
Monarchs, but they're shit with an extra deck.
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>>151886636
This. I love dolls, but they're becoming power creeeped.

>>151886808
>>151886858
So you're the autist that keeps going on about how Dolls will fuel Blue-Eyes? Who the fuck cares? Blue-Eyes lose more by running dolls, since they're incosistent anyway, but running Shaddoll Fusions plus a bunch of lower level flip monsters with no synergy with dragons will not help them.

Now fuck off, retard.
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>>151886754
>since Lightning is AFK
When will "muh Rank 4" shitters learn to read?
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>>151886808
This, Kaizmoba would be insane if Construct was legal. They can start recycling their BAs without even needing to summon Dante since they could just mill him.
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>>151886808
>clutter brickeyes with even more bricks
yeah that hand full of dolls really helps the engine, as well as their complete lack of other attributes to go into other shit. Construct is not impressive as her role as a beater in a deck with a shitton of better beaters.
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Can he go to 3 and Scout to 2? Please?
>>
Let me kill Shadolls right now ban Winda and Shadoll Fusion

Limit beast

Semi limit dragon and falcon
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>>151887107
I don't see why not, but jewart says no.
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>>151887107
And Construct to 3.
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/11002161
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what deck can main/side this?
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>>151887107
>Unironically wanting Qlips back
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>>151887107
>he
lol
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>>151887097
You really underestimate the power of shadoll fusion huh?

have you ever even played them?
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>>151887231
Yes, and?
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>>151887198
Every deck, once they've made their plays.
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>>151886808
Blue-Eyes gets free foolish burials out the ass regardless. Shaddolls would only reduce consistency and put more strain on an already packed extra deck.
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>>151887107
Back at 3 only if you ban scout happy?
>>
>tfw loved running Ritual Beasts
>tfw loved running Dolls
>tfw love running Lunalights
>tfw like Fluffals

Why is Fusion so fun?
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>>151887425
Why are we making trades here? This isn't a negotiation, we want towers back to 3 and scout back to 2.
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>>151887425
Killing Scout completely kills Qlis. Also, there's no reason that Towers should stay on the list other than salty shitters.
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>>151887198
>Agumon

Why is this allowed?
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>>151887279
>3-of fusion that bricks in multiples and needs your opponent to have something on board to not be shit
>bunch of shitty dolls floating around in your deck that are slow and do fucking nothing on their own
>fusions that do fucking jack shit in this current meta
yeah, real powerful. You're better off just running chaos MAX if you want more bricks for more power.
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>>151887550
Do you even know what Shadoll fusion does?
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>>151887279
Jesus Christ, you fuckwit, I'm not even the guy you're replying to but you're autism is too strong. BluEyes + Dolls is SHIT.
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>>151887674
Be a shitty vanilla unless your opponent is retarded? Yes
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>>151887687
ITT: Faggots who don't understand why Construct was banned and just cry MUH WAIFU M-M-MUH W-W-WAIFU
Then again all you fucking Reddit shitters only came back into the game after Construct was banned, so what should I expect
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>>151887674
Based on the name I'd say it fuses shaddolls.
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>>151885776
Why is Serena offering glasses?
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>>151887850
>waifu

She's not my waifu though, you autist. Just admit that your idea was shit and that Dolls are fine at full power.
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>>151887850
construct is shit right now anyways
>monarchs walk all over her
>BA can float and OTK harder now than shaddolls ever could
>blue eyes can sit on a vanilla Blue eyes and beat them to death
dolls are fucking dead, it's not like nekroz where they had insane consistency and a trishula which was and still is outrageously good.
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>>151887798
>My opponent is a retard if he uses the extra deck

i'm out good night
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>>151887850
Construct was banned because konami wanted kill the entire meta to make way for the new format. Same reason towers got hit, and cannahawk, and shurit.
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>people actually think blue eyes dolls would be viable
Call me when Chaos MAX tops consistently
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>>151886807
Believe me, dude, I want nothing more than to see the old meta greats back in some capacity, but it's neither the topic at hand nor will it ever happen. Construct cannot come back as long as Konami continues to print lights with powerful grave effects. Her existence warps card design.
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>>151888069
Thank fuck. One less autist to deal with.
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>>151888121
i appreciate you adding the consistently part so that this post doesn't get referenced for years on end after max wins worlds
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>>151888145
The only light construct broke was clowns because fusion + rank 4 was busted.
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>>151888085
>>151888061
One guy says they can't compete with the meta at full power the other says they got banned so that the meta could compete

can you autists just admit that the hit was reasonable?
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>>151888069
Not using domain monarchs does make you retarded, yes.
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>>151888261
Killing a deck outright is not reasonable when everything in the current meta floats, searches, and otherwise renders its wincon irrelevant.
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>>151888145
>neither the topic at hand
>nor will it ever happen

This is some next level bait. Construct is fine at coming back. The only decks that will suffer are shit petdecks. All the meta can handle her fine.
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>>151888261
It was reasonable at the time yes. But now? Did you not see Dark Destroyer kozmos steamroll dolls? They can't even stand up to any meta deck now, dolls are slow and garbage. How do you autists not get this?

DOLLS
ARE
INCONSISTENT
SHIT
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>>151888261
I said KONAMI hit her so the new meta could compete. Just because that's what they thought doesn't mean it's correct, after all they know absolutely nothing about the game.
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>>151888261
Shaddolls were already dying out and Konami tried to speed it up forcefully. They're fine now because of Powercreep, like Towers.
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>/dng/ in charge of explaining the banlist but missing the point
Never change /dng/
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>>151888486
Towers wasn't doing shit, even at the time it was banned.
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>There's an actual autist trying to argue that Dolls are too good with Construct at 3

Just fuck off and die already. You clearly know nothing about the last 12 months and how the meta has shifted.
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>>151888592
Someone here said no one would run pot of greed if it came back to one. People here just talk shit.
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>>151885592
Gusto ;_;
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>shaddolls will never get more support
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>all this shitposting about bringing back Shaddolls

You do realize that even if they unban Construct, they're not going to do anything special, right? Once ABCs arrive followed by D/D/Ds, they're not going to do anything remotely special. Hell, if Konami really wanted to, they can unban Zenmaity and it'd still do nothing for Wind-Ups, but they're not, because the primary focus of KoA is selling their products, not bringing back things that they can't even profit off.

I don't care if you fags shitpost about your cardfus and your petdeck builds, just stop trying to force a meme that won't even go past Domain Lock.
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>>151889032
>le everyone who disagrees with me is a waifufag meme xD

Fuck off and kill yourself. You know your argument has fallen apart, so stop posting. Dolls probably raped you and your shitty deck didn't they? Explains why you're so afraid of them.
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>>151889001
pls no
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>>151889032
Still scared of the big bad Towers anon? I sure cant wait for the 2nd reign of Qlis.
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>>151889538
>I sure cant wait for the 2nd reign of Qlis.
When was the first?
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>mfw niggas think construct at 3 will do nothing
are you the same faggot who thinks stratos at 3 won't do shit?
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>>151889032
>dolls can't out domain lock
>activate shaddoll fusion, send dragon
>dragon activates popping domain
>shaddoll fusion resolves summoning construct
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>>151889538
konami has done literally nothing for the last year except print easy towers outs. All the atk boosts in the world in every deck now, it's piss easy to out towers. They learned from their mistake.
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>>151889634
Hikokubo pls go
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>>151889631
How does it feel knowing you're the most retarded person I've met today?

Construct at 3 is fine and anyone who says otherwise is a shitty petdeck user.
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>>151889032
>if Konami really wanted to, they can unban Zenmaity and it'd still do nothing for Wind-Ups
I'm still mad abount hunter loop so fuck that
>>
You need to protect a shitty vanilla for 10 turns or your mom dies in her sleep tonight. What stall cards do you use?
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>>151889538
Mind telling me when the first was, guy?

>>151889316
Did you even read my post? Of course you didn't. You just chose to reply without reading anything I said, just like how you couldn't read any of your opponent's cards. Have fun with a deck that won't even make Top 32.
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>>151889802
>Being mad about a deck that can't do shit in this day and age
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>>151889842
Safe zone white dragon ninja
>10 turns
four turns, if you have three giga nigga in hand
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>>151889631
that is for sure
>>
>Waifufags shitting up /dng/
It's better than the homo defense squad backpedalling like crazy I guess
>>
>all this Shaddoll circlejerk
Why the fuck people want to revive one of the most boring fusion decks in existence? Might as well bring back HEROs while you are at it.
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>>151889001
They just got more support though.
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>>151889842
Wall of Revealling Light
Swords of Concealing Light
Swords of Revealling Light
Scrap-Iron Scarecrow
Negate Attack
Battle Fader
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>>151889918
So you admit that Dolls won't be OP with Construct at 3 then? Because from what I read just now, you told me that this deck won't even make top 32, yet you shitpost constantly about how bad Construct at 3 will be.

>>151890053
>>151890076
Stop the samefagging son. Most of us here actually enjoy decks that aren't boring as fuck to play. Go enjoy your petdeck.
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>>151888391
>neither the topic at hand
You misunderstand what I was saying - I assumed the discussion was revolving around supposedly plausible, fair, whatever banlist hopes, not far-fetched pipe dreams.
>nor will it ever happen
...Then again, we're talking about Construct here. Does any of you even remember all the Nekroz Shaddoll hybrids running around right before Nats 2015? Or the goofy BA/Shaddoll Hybrids that snagged a few tops, including a YCS? Or the time Desmond Johnson actually topped a YCS with Blue Eyes Shaddolls?

Let me tell you what I'm not saying: I'm not saying that pure Shaddolls will suddenly shit on the meta, nor am I saying that Blue-Eyes Shaddolls would suddenly be the end-all be-all of the meta. I'm definitely not saying that I'd hate to see it back. What I AM saying, though, is that the decks that can afford the mere 5-6 card slots it takes to toss in a Shaddoll suite will have a dangerous ceiling lift over those that can't. Blue-Eyes, ABC, maybe even DDD each would get a nifty boost from just siding 3 Fusion and 2 monsters - it goes even higher if they can afford to build their main around it. Konami would need to design every single light monster and archtype with Construct in mind to avoid breaking it, and god knows they don't give enough of a shit to even consider the effort.
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>>151889842
I put a gun on the table and tell my opponent that if he attacks me I'll blow his fucking brains out.
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>>151890273
>Stop the samefagging son.
Check the time, faggot.
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>>151889618
>He doesn't remember triple Scout, triple Saqlifice, triple Skill Drain and Vanity's format
Oh how I wish I were so blissfully naive.
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>>151890168
subtle
although i would have picked scrap iron scarecrow since less people are likely to know what it does
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>>151890273
>yet you shitpost constantly about how bad Construct at 3 will be.
>"You do realize that even if they unban Construct, they're not going to do anything special, right?"

Third line, first sentence. You really are retarded.
>>
>>151885592
Chaos Dragons WERE good. Now they will never be since we can't have decent dragon support that isn't for level 7/8 only.
>>
>>151890530
swift scarecrow, i mean
what a silly mistake to make
>>
>>151889802
Hey
What if
Just maybe
KoA pulls their head out of their ass and puts Zenmaity to 3 and Hunter to 0 as nature intended. But we know that ain't happening
>>
>>151890284
>3 fusion slots

That's a lot of monsters to take out for the ED. Most decks like blue-eyes and abc already have their EDs packed and it would be hard to find room for them. On top of that, you're saying they'll run 2 extra cards in the main, reducing consistency in already bricky decks? And all this for just to use Construct? I don't even know what the fuck is passing through your mind that you'd do all that to use Construct, which doesn't even have an eff that most these decks can't use themselves.

Please think before you post bullshit.
>>
>>151890735
Hey
What if
Just maybe
KoA actually balances their card game by making it fun for everyone instead of hitting every other deck to sell their TCG-only archetypes? Nah, that's silly.
>>
Are you guys actually arguing or is this mutual shitposting?
>>
>>151890735
i agree with this change, zenmaity to 3 but hunter to 0
actually, why the fuck isn't this a thing already? Why keep hunter?
>>
>>151890902
Not like the OCG freed Construct.
>>
>>151890658
>direct attack

You fool ass, fool
>>
>>151890372
>what is waiting between posts

>>151890551
What the fuck are you even talking about, you fuckwit? Have you changed your argument now? 'HURR DURR IT DON'T MATTER GUISE DOLLS ARE SHIT ANYWAY'
>>
hey /dng/ american airlines just lost my bag which had my trade binder and kozmo deck in it what do
>>
>>151890962
Aren't you a redditor?
>>
>>151891370
yeah, it's battle fader but worse (although it's a machina fortress target) so people are less likely to know what it does

you know, for the purpose of the joke, which is incorrectly naming direct attack negaters as some kind of protection to bring out zushin
>>
>>151891457
Sue them
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>>151891457
Drive the plane into the twin towers, jk fbi

>>151891526
no u
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>>151890808
>3 fusion slots
For 3 Shaddoll Fusion, yes. The only fusions you'd really need are a Construct and maybe a Winda.
>And all this for just to use Construct? I don't even know what the fuck is passing through your mind that you'd do all that to use Construct, which doesn't even have an eff that most these decks can't use themselves. Please think before you post bullshit.
Tell that to the countless skilled Nekroz players in the middle of 2015 who did the same damn thing just to use Construct.
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>>151891457
Maybe just go contact AA and see if they can find it?
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>>151891656
I have, they thought they found it 4 days ago but now claim they just have no idea where it is
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>>151891621
>comparing a format one year ago to today's format

Just stop.
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>>151891457
contact them and tell them you lost your bag, they have a lost and found place full of unclaimed baggage
and they keep them for years there unless they start to stink for unknown reasons (like food etc)
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>>151891420
>backpedaler is trying to say that I'm backpedaling

Nothing about my argument has changed since I made that post. You're just shitposting for the sake of shitposting.
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>>151891616
and use the money to buy more cards, that's genius
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>>151891656
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>>151891884
(You)
>>
This is really easily solved you guys. We could test my DUEA Clown Shaddolls vs. whatever else is meta nowadays.
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>>151891656
>tfw no porn of her
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>>151891976
>Let's use my shitty deck so that when I lose I can just say that it was my wrong build xD
Fuck off
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>>151891728
Start stealing shit off the baggage carousel until you get enough money from hocked goods to replace everything.
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>>151891457
contact CIA
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>all this talking
>no action
what would a shaddoll/blue-eyes deck even look like, something like this?
its ok, i guess.
>>
>>151892202
That looks inconsistent as fuck.
>>
>>151892114
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, you honorless crumb-bum.
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>>151892202
Living and Dying in Brick City/10
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>>151891897
I'm no stranger to sarcasm
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>>151892391
>Saying the truth is now shitposting
lol
>>
What stuff synergises with Lunalights well? Mealfoes just brick on me and dolls are too weak.
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>>151892502
Do you want to get dueled into a corner? Didn't think so. Shut your mouth, jabroni.
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>>151892337
>>151892392
bricks a little bit less than you'd think.
not a lot less, though.
>>
>This card is unaffected by card effects
>Skill drain is up

What happens? I'm trying to simulate it but the AI is hell of retarded
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>>151893172
If you summon the monster while Skill Drain is up the monster's effects are negated but if it's flipped after, the monster's effects are not negated. That's how it was with Towers
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>>151887863
It lets you use cards from your deck as fusion materials. That means if your opponent uses ANY extra deck monsters (which they will unless they play Monarchs or Qliphs) you can summon your boss immediately.
So, you get a boss monster out immediately, no big whoop right? Wrong. Shadoll's shit on special summoned monsters, which is everything but monarchs/qliphs, and bringing out any single one you want, with the ability to bring a spell (shadoll fusion) back to your hand upon death, means you will always have something to fuck them in the ass.
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>>151893172
It depends on what hits the field first.
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>>151893172
If Skill Drain was face-up before the monster was summoned, the monster is affected by it.
If Skill Drain was flipped up after the monster was summoned, monster doesn't give a shit.
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New meme shit thread
>>151893431
>>151893431
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