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Welcome to the Legend of Zelda general. Talk about Zelda games old and new, and all discussions related to the entire franchise in its various forms. Share and discuss art, music, news developments, timeline theories, speedrunning strats, etc.

/lozg/ #37 - Flying Fi edition

Previous thread: >>151424056

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/ktUtxsNR

>The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Infobin<
http://pastebin.com/yDtHrpnN

>The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild Video Playlist<
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1XM4qU010qLdBMVB6BVNZLfo5dpp8gmT

>News/Developments<
Toon Link Cameo in Monster Hunter Generations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8iuktPe-yk

Twilight Princess Picross:
https://my.nintendo.com/rewards/93fc36d80848c6dc

TloZ - "Symphony of the Godesses" concert tour
http://zelda-symphony.com/pages/schedule

TloZ Card Game
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-legend-of-zelda-trading-cards-listed-online/1100-6439912/

Twilight Princess manga in the west
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/05/the_legend_of_zelda_twilight_princess_manga_is_coming_to_the_west

BotW Link figurine in production:
http://gonintendo.com/stories/260163-medicom-reveals-zelda-breath-of-the-wild-figurine
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>Cia will never split the timeline, just to see you smile from afar.
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Reminder that he's in BOTW
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>>151705279
>Cia will never be canon
>>151705784
Reminder that based on the time it would have taken Hyrule Castle to have been rebuilt in the Adult Timeline and the time it would have taken Ganondorf to escape, it means he was likely not the King during OoT (as that King is never mentioned again after Ganondorf takes over, having likely killed him).

Means he can only exist in either Adult or Downfall since he's likely OoT Zelda's son.
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>new thread on REAL EUROPE HOURS

This is going to be fun
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don't forget the tetrafroce

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Pick one Zelda character, give them an actual song to be their theme song.
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>>151707369
Groose grand grand grand grand grand child with full blown trains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydpz1RSPeDs
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>>151707369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG91y3T3Rr4

TP Link, could work with the Hero of Time just as well though.
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>>151707369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIeSGUK-Lyo
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>>151707369
One of these two easily.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmSHlutX1xo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQ9PlLW4Gc
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>>151709205
This Cia is way better
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>>151707369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j_0Aq-t6dE
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>>151705784
The old man kind of looks like him, but how would that even work?
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>>151710090
It would mean that he was alive in the child line also. Not sure how it works out as far as how old he is.
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>>151710090
Somebody is going to say it, I just know it. Anyway, I think since technology has a focus in this game, the explanation will be dealing with that. He's basically right there watching over the shrine of resurrection at the start of the game. He would probably had access to it and used something inside there to keep him alive for all those years. The monks also have something to do with this as well, they are all extremely old and only die when you complete their challenges. They have been waiting for you.
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Best Link
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>>151710460
He should be alive in every timeline. It's not like OoT Zelda stopped having kids in each of them.
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>>151710608
There's not enough info to know that, I think. He could have died or he could have not been born in the other timelines for all we know.
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>>151710741
>>151710608
Until they actually say something, it could be literally anything, including just some beard guy with no relation.
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I WANT TO FUCK FI
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>>151710854
>it could be literally anything, including just some beard guy with no relation

NO, I REFUSE THIS. MY THEORIES NEED TO BE CORRECT
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>>151706369
We know that its been 100 years since Link woke up. But that doesn't mean it was 100 years after OoT Link's defeat in the downfall timeline, either. For all we know, several hundred years could've passed, which leaves enough room for a brand new King to take over.
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>>151710741
Its pretty safe to assume that considering the Royal Family still exists throughout all timelines. OoT Zelda would have to give birth to Daphnes for it match up as it does in WW, and the equivalency would happen in Downfall and Child as well.
>>151711094
While true, I doubt it'll be hundreds of years, it'd bleed over into one of the other games.
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>>151711094
>But that doesn't mean it was 100 years after OoT Link's defeat in the downfall timeline
I don't think that could even be the case. Between Ganondorf getting sealed, and the events of Wind Waker, There was no Hero, and Hyrule didn't Flood yet (According to Breath of the Wild).

If it was the Adult timeline, it would be a long time after Wind Waker.
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>>151706369
>he's likely OoT Zelda's son.
This is a fanfic. By extension all theories based on it are fanfic. No frame of reference and no lineage has been given for the games, so one generation or 10 generations or any number of generations can pass between the games.
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>>151711278
Oh, I'm talking about the downfall timeline, and the possibility that BoTW could be placed between OoT and ALTTP, but that BoTW takes place hundreds of years after the events of Link's failure in OoT.
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>>151711019
All beard guys look the same, and you can't trust them.
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>he doesn't exist in the only timeline where he's a legend

Well that sucks.
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>>151711728
First it sucks, and then it starts to rain.
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>>151711286
I didn't say it wasn't headcanon. Its just clearly logical based on where the games are placed and how much rough time passes between them. Could Daphnes be her grandson or great great grandson and so on? Sure he can. But you also have to take into account that Tetra's mother wasn't Daphnes' wife, it was likely his granddaughter at best, considering there is a Princess Zelda in Hyrule Castle.

It would be something similar to this for WW.

>Daphnes
>Zelda
>Tetra's Mother
>Tetra

Yes, more Zeldas or princes or whatever can fit between Zelda and Tetra's Mother, and quite a lot too when you factor in centuries of material. Originally however WW was only 100 years after OoT.
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>>151711728
Why is he the only hero that gets hardcore fucked over with everything in his life?
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>>151711851
>Originally however WW was only 100 years after OoT.
Source?

I tried looking that up but only saw "many generations after Ganondorf got sealed". If that's what you're going off of, that isn't enough info. a generation is anywhere between 20-30 years and "many" isn't a good enough indicator of time. It could be 10 or 20 in that case.
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What is the possibility that BOTW is going to retcon Link dying in OOT? Could it be possible that the story is going to revolve around how Link somehow survived but caused him to go in a coma, his body was then taken to the shrine (which is right next to the ToT) and he's been stored there for a hundred years? Retarded theory, I know, but please someone poke some holes in it.
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>>151711851
>Originally however WW was only 100 years after OoT.

Nope, that was a translation error. It was actually supposed to be hundreds of years, not 100. Even then, common sense would tell you that.
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>>151711994
100 years mentioned literally in the text doesn't allow for a "hundreds of years" interpretation.

No place for BotW to happen before ALTTP
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>>151711994
Well ,I guess it's possible but given everything released thus far it wouldn't explain things like the Koroks (evolved from something after the Great Flood in the Adult Timeline) Or the supposed Bridge of Eldin.
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>>151711893
Because Miyamoto was butthurt that people like OoT better than ALttP.
>>151711986
He's probably referring to old Aonuma interviews, he also said TP was 100 years after OoT. It's more of a language issue when translating, he meant there are hundreds of years after, not 100. Just weird translation errors.
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>>151711994
If trends from the other games are an indication, it will be a new link completely. He doesn't even have OOT Link's signature hairstyle. He is similar looking to a scruffy version of LttP/LoZ/TP Link.
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>>151712184
OoT Link's design has been retconned. Its very clear if OoT was actually remade (instead of a texture upgrade for 3DS) he'd look like TP/SS Zelda.

I mean look at the tunic that TP Link has. It's the Hero of Time's, but it has chainmail, its a darker green, etc.
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>>151712260
Eh
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>>151712260
>OoT Link's design has been retconned.
Says who? Unless OOT Link is actually in a game, where is the retcon?
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>>151712351
A callback and a costume.
>>151712385
Its pretty clear they have a specific design set for Adult Links now and its the TP/SS one. You can argue BotW Link but he looks to be 14 at most compared to the others who are 16-18. Even then he looks pretty similar.
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>>151712184
>If trends from the other games are an indication
Trend? What trend?

>>151712260
>OoT Link's design has been retconned
No it hasn't.

If you mean to say that it's because of Link's design Smash Bros, then you're mistaken in that case. Smash 1/2 are Hero of Time link. 3/4 are TP Link.
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>>151712475
Answer the question.
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>>151711994
I don't know, I still think this is a different Link. If it does take place in the downfall timeline, directly after OoT - then its sort of become a tradition of a new Link taking his place and cleaning up his split-timeline mess if WW Link and TP Link's adventures are any indication.

I suspect that unlike the adult timeline (where he was recognized and revered for his deeds,) or the child timeline (where he wasn't recognized as THE hero, but did end up becoming a valiant knight and hero in his own right,) he'll be remembered in an extremely negative light in the downfall timeline due to his failure, which in turn will strongly affect BoTW Link's quest.
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>>151712475
He looks the same.
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Other than the artstyle and shit this is literally TP/SS Link
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>>151712497
OOT - New Link
WW - New Link
SS - New Link
TP - New Link
Big console releases usually get a new Link. No old baggage.
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>check the wiki
>see him/she/they pronoun shit everywhere

When the fuck did this shit start happening?
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>>151712665
No shit, that is what Link looks like now, either that ALttP/ALBW Link or Toon Link. That are the designs now.
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>>151712665
It's more like he's a pseudo-mixture of

>ALTTP Link
>SS Link
>TP Link
>OoT Link
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>>151712726
MM Used the same link, it's a direct sequel and it was a console release.
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>>151712665
He shouldn't be SS Link, unless the 100 years voice is way way way off.

TP is very possible, but it would be pretty tragic for everyone he knows. He seemingly rode to adventure at the end of the game, so I guess we would find out where he was going.
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>>151712764
He doesn't really look anything like OoT Link and SS/TP Link are nearly identical outside of artstyle.

Where are you getting ALTTP from? The bangs? The only link without bangs was OoT Link.
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>>151712865
>He doesn't really look anything like OoT Link

I see it in the face. Especially the eyes and eyebrows.

>Where are you getting ALTTP from? The bangs?

Yes. They're long as hell like ALTTP Link's bangs.
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>>151712949
Whoops. I didn't mean bangs, I meant sideburns. It's getting late for me, should probably had for bed.
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>>151712832
I mean design wise, there's no fucking chance this is TP/SS Link "Literally"
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The way TP directly referenced events in OOT, it would be pretty slick if BotW directly referenced events from TP.
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>>151712949
The faces don't really look similar, where are you getting this from? OoT Link has much sharper facial features bigger eyes. The eye color isn't even similar and the nose isn't as big as OoT Link.

Also every single link has really long sideburns. Look at them all in relation to their heads. They're all really long.
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>>151713042
Give or take that Nintendo basically answered that the Temple of Time is indeed the same one from OoT on the facebook page, perhaps it be wise to assume that all of the icon landmarks, ruins, easter eggs and such that people have spotted so far might actually have plot and lore significance. We can spot a bridge that bares a strong resemblance to either the Bridge of Hylia or the Bridge of Eldin.
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>>151713197
I've been looking at the bridge for a bit, but I don't really see it being either. It looks similar but has distinct differences in design which sets it apart from those two.

>>151713038
>I mean design wise, there's no fucking chance this is TP/SS Link "Literally"
Well obviously it can't be both, TP/SS Link aren't the same Link.
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>>151713197
I still don't see how this is supposed to change anything or even be surprising. It was obviously the Temple of Time from OoT. why wouldn't it be? Every single Temple of Time in all the games is the same one from OoT.
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>>151713197
If BotW gives us the most complete and accurate depiction of Hyrule to date, it will feel pretty weird if the next game gives a complete and accurate Hyrule that is somehow way different. I almost want them to make a map that they just keep forever, but I know that isn't a good thing to want because the overworld is basically a dungeon outside of the dungeons.
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>>151713447
The next game most likely will take place in a completely different place, like Termina after OoT, or in a completely different time where it will look very different.

Or they'll just give us ALBW for BotW
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>Miyamoto The stories in The Legend of Zelda may not match up as the series progresses. We actually expend a lot of time trying to make them match up, though. It would make things a lot easier if the players said, "Oh, that doesn't really matter." (laughs)

>(laughs)
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>>151713729
Well no shit. A bunch of standalone games/game series works better than awkwardly trying to tie every game together somehow through some fanfic tier timeline.
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>>151713729
>Oh, that doesn't really matter.

You're playing with autism here Shiggy
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>>151713597
Eventually they have to come back to Hyrule in a 3d setting.
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>Zelda Hentai thread - post your lewds there, not here
>>>/h/4345011
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http://gonintendo.com/stories/263198-iwata-spent-his-final-moments-working-from-a-hospital-contribute

Unrelated, but still.
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>>151713895
Of course, and then they just pick up a setting where something like the flood from WW happened, or something like LoZ where it's been so fucking long it makes sense for it to not look the same, or just go the ALBW/ALTTP route and take the map and create a dark version
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>>151713920

Even in his final moments that man worked magic with code. He was too pure for this world
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>>151713920
RIP, I miss him
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>>151713904
>/lozg/ /h/ thread
>most of the shit we want to post there gets deleted for bullshit rules that the board itself doesn't follow

We need to fix this
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>>151714121
It might be overkill but we could make a Zelda thread on /aco/ too.
There all kind of Imp/shortstack and western art is allowed.
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PRONOUNS
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>>151713904
Why are you posting this here?
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>>151714664
There's nothing wrong with that post?
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>>151714664
Because this is zelda general
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>>151714519
Wouldn't hurt.

>>151714664
Do you not want anyone letting you know that there's a thread dedicated to Zelda lewds, faggot?
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>>151714857
Why would I need someone telling me about some thread on /h/ that is dedicated to Zelda? I can look up stuff on my own off the website. I'm not some 7 year old that needs to be spoonfed all the time and I can find more images than a thread on /h/ would permit.
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>>151714974
Why are you here if you don't want to talk about zelda? You can find all the information in this thread elsewhere, faggot
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>>151714974
Then I guess we also don't need any links in the OP since we can all find the information ourselves.
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>>151714664
Here's the actual reason.
A guy one day started posting lewds here.
Which not only derailed the thread but was also a waste of good porn, since everything got deleted by mods.
Hence I made that thread to avoid that.
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>>151715727
Yet they still get deleted.
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>>151715802
Rules, anon, rules. /h/ is just for straight or yuri porn that doesn't involve /d/ stuff drawn by a japanese artist.
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>>151715184
Wyhen did I say I wasn't here to talk about Zelda?

Christ, are you people all fucking retarded? Since when did people here stop learning basic readintg comprehension?

>>151715198
If you're twlking about the BotW stuff, then no. You're comparing small yet scattered info about an unreleased game to sexy images of Zelda girls which are readily available all over the internet. That's not a good comparison.
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>>151713904
Sceww the complainfag, here's the /aco/ thread. Post western art there.

>>>/aco/781511

Also, beware. /aco/ allows also males, gay things, imp/shortstack and all kinds of sick /d/ stuff like dickgirls.
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>>151716161
Why are you posting this here?
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>>151716161
If you look closely at the OP, you'll notice there are other links that are not related to BOTW. This information has been out there for years and readily available. Maybe you should learn basic comprehension instead, and while you're at it, typing classes as well.
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>>151716545
I'm using a shit tablet with a bad keyboard, the typos are a bit out of my control.

>This information has been out there for years and readily available
Yes, and? I don't disagree with thst one. A lot of generals have a lot of pointless stuff in the OP and this one isn't any different.
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Reminder that Sheik is MALE and got (he/his) pronouns
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>>151716829
>I'm using a shit tablet with a bad keyboard

Then fucking change it. Install a new OS or something. Anyways, I'd like to continue arguing with you but I'm sleepy, goodnight.
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>>151715184
Because this thread is for talking about the games aned not porn?
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>>151717265
Nobody is talking about porn except the guy complaining about the links to porn threads.
Those links exist exactly to discuss porn outside of this general.
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>>151717639
There are at least 2-3 people ITT talking about porn. It isn't just one guy. You can stop pretending to be retarded now.
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I think it's time for you to stop getting (you), yes? Shut the fuck up.
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>Read previous thread
>What the fuck
I think it's time to agree that Twilight Princess fags, aka Midnafags, aka "muh dark atmosphere" fags, are the worst part of this general.
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slow down
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>>151718950
Hello there Ilia anon, you don't have to hide. We're all friends here.
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It would be pointless for me to even try to resist, because there would be no way my cock is a match for a professional milkmaid. Malon's expert, well-honed fingers would rhythmically alternate squeezing from one finger to the next, all the while giving firm, yet gentle tugs on my dick. Her silky hand induces me to cum, then cum again, as every last drop of my semen is extracted. She licks her fingers clean to avoid making a mess, just as she does when milking a cow udder.

Malon then sits in my lap and lifts her blouse. Her barely contained breasts coming tumbling out, and she places my hands on them, one on each mammary, before showing me how she wants to be milked. I knead and tease her perky, firm bosom, occasionally taking a single finger and circling the areola around her erect, needy nipples, all the while eliciting shy, pleading mewls from her throat. Not wanting to dance around the bush any longer, she takes her hand and runs it though my hair before guiding my head towards her chest so that my lips are a mere hair-breadth away from one of her perky teats. I flick it up and down a couple of times with the tip of my tongue, making Malon squeal in anticipation. Then I gently pinch it between my teeth and give a little tug, making her arch her back, before closing my lips around it fully and giving her the suckling that she begged for. Resuming the kneading and squeezing with my hands, I am unsurprisingly rewarded with a squirt of Malon's own sweet, warm milk, which I voraciously guzzle. I then alternate between her two breasts until the flow is reduced to a dribble that I clean up with a thorough tongue bath.

What's not to love about a farm girl?
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>>151724623
Go sit in the corner.
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>never played OoT
>pick up OoT 3D
>reach Gerudo Fortress

What the fuck people?
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>>151726165
Don't you like sneaking around rescuing fruity men?
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>>151726165
>Not liking steaoth sections
Use Deku Nuts, you nut.
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>>151726165

Shoot the guards with your bow
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>Gossip stone told me Gerudo women like to go to Hyrule Castle to find men
>A healthy and horny Gerudo will never find you, fall in love with you and force you to love her with violence
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>>151727527
Well how else would Gerudo keep their race alive? They'd have to find other men. I mean they're not like the Gorons who spawn from magic rocks.
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>>151727624
It really makes you wonder why 99% of Gerudo are women and who might be Ganondorf's father.
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>>151727687
Probably just a genetic thing honestly. I mean we rarely ever see more than one female Zora either, TP is about the one exception to that if I recall. Just like the Sheikah, BotW will be our first official time ever seeing a male Sheikah (unless you wanna count the Twili/Interlopers having been Sheikah).

Farore just seemed to want to make random races. All of them being primarily male or female outside of Hylians and Kokiri.
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so should i come here or to /cm/ for cute link
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Anyone else having issues posting?
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>>151729713
Why don't you just post cute link?
additionally, /cm/ is dead
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>>151731320
>that enemy
Worst fucking enemy.
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>>151731378
And most qt enemy in entire Zelda series
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>>151717056
SHEik
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Im about to finish tp for the first time then move to ss right aftetwards.
Tp is a good game, feels like impossible expectations made people dislike it.
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>>151735464
It's a good game with some flaws. I think my biggest gripe was that all the wolf parts felt so tacked on and unnecessary.
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>>151708693
Fucking kek! Really turned my day around.
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>>151711728
He's got some renown in the child timeline, he's just not known as the Hero of Time.
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>>151735464
You're right they did. People expected this grand adventure with Requiem for a Dream playing while you fight on horseback against little battalions and troops and stuff on boars.

Then when the game came out they were like "Wow I wanted Ocarina of Time, not Ocarina of Time 2, boooo 8.8 hahaha."

Its dumb, people love to find dumb reasons to hate things.
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>>151726373
The Gerudo really don't get enough art.
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>>151707369
>tfw the Hero of Legend and Hero of Time team up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gF2UySGZAU
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>>151735464
Play SS first, the linearity makes it a lot easier to finish.
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I hope they keep the chainmail underneath the green tunic
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>>151735464
Nintendo kinda does this lately. They brag about huge plans without giving the details, and then walk away while fans imagine things that can never be. Consider Skyward Sword. Skyward Sword by all true measures is a good game, but Nintendo came out early and talked about how awesome it will be to fly around. Then the game comes out and it turns out that you can only fly in the hub world and not Hyrule proper.
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>>151738242
Don't see why they wouldn't. The outfits seem to be a rather complete package ,so you can mix-match entirely, which is unfortunate.
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>>151735464
TP is good. Not as good as some pretends it is though. Other games in the series are still superior.
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>>151738302
Flying is the weakest part of the game desu
>no night flying ever
>usually just a means to get to one of the three areas
>not particularly fun
>Levias battle is frustrating because of shoddy hit detection
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Would you guys like a spin-off game where you create one of the races and participate in the Unification War? Each race having their own little story?
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>>151738302
And they're doing the same with BoTW.

I'm certain that shrines are going to get extremely repetitive after completing 15 or so of them, and the game isn't nearly as hard as they're making it out to be.
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>>151739238
No
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>>151739238
Why not? For being one of the most influent and old series in videogames, Zelda somehow lacks spin-off titles.
Meanwhile Kirby and Mario got into all crazy kind of games.
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>>151739238
We don't even know if the OOT races are the actual races fighting against each other. They could have been aligned together to fight some other group that we never saw. All we know is that the friendly groups in OOT have the pendants which may have been used as wampum for their alliance.
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>>151739238
Isn't there some fangame called Hyrule Total War and it's exactly about that?
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>>151739494
Why not?
>>151739540
Sadly.
>>151739551
While true, in that case it would just allow you the ability to play that race and build a story around what happens.
>>151739590
If I recall that fangame is all about Majora and shit and like Kokiri fight and kill people. Its dumb.
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If BotW is a full Hurule with extra LA area added for extra niftyness, I hope we can eventually get a full Termina with TRR areas added for extra niftyness. The more places you can include, the more the map starts to feel like a real place instead of just a climate sampler.
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>>151739481
A game doesn't need to be hard to be great. See LTTP.
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>>151739481
I don't mind if it's not super hard, but at least from the demos BotW isn't holding your hand.
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>>151740173
Isn't Termina just a mental projection of Link?
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>>151741954
That theory is just straight up dumb
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>>151741954
No. Termina is a place.

Koholint Island is a dream created by the Windfish and populated by things that the Windfish saw in Link's mind.
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>>151742128
I mean, it explains why 90% of the population is a copypaste of Hyrule population.
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>>151742365
That's explained by 1 year of development time and old tech
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>>151742426
Following that reasoning, all lore talk should be belittled to mere tech.
Which is boring to say the least.
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>>151742665
0/10
Troll better next time.
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How would you feel if BotW also included places and races from games like OoS/OoA/MC?
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>>151717056
Is this implying that Zelda and Sheik are different people entirely? What's the point of comparing the very slightly different eye/eyebrow shape that could literally just come down to the artist not being entirely consistent?
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>>151742365
It's been officially stated from the very beginning that it's a different dimension though. Why is this still a thing that's debated?

I mean, why talk about Termina when Lorule is the real enigma. What heck is that place? Nega-Hyrule? The Dark World? Some kind of inbetween? Something else entirely? What's it's deal?
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>>151744149
It is implying that Sheik changed his chromosomes through magic.
Magic allows Zelda to be male or female at her will. Which is why her physical proportions are totally different when she becomes Sheik.
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>>151744094
Very glad.
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>>151744149
Doesn't really account for the corsetry that comes with her royal dresses.
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>>151744303
I mean, it could be a different dimension exactly like Termina.
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>>151744303
Lorule is a parallel world, like Termina, they're both countries in a parallel dimension.

Think of it like this.

>Labrynna and Holodrum were created
>Then Hyrule
>The Goddesses exited Hyrule creating The Triforce
>upon warping back into existence, they came out and created Lorule (which had the inverse effect-Lorule's Triforce)
>they then created Termina and left where they had entered (the sacred realm)

Sacred Realm is like a warp point between the two both connected by a Triforce, with various warp points all over the place. At least this is how I understand it.
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>>151744303
>>151744787
Lorule is surely a parallel dimension. The similarities to common science fiction conventions are so strong that it doesn't even seem to deserve explanation. Always remember that the developers are computer nerds.
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>>151745134
What if Termina and Lorule are set in the same parallel universe?
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>>151745620
Well that is what I assume, Termina is just a random country beside or near Lorule.
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>>151745620
Feels like something they would have mentioned. Fans loved Termina enough that they expanded it in Tingles Rosy Rupeeland.
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Here, have a WIP before I go to bed.
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>>151745134
>Labrynna and Holodrum were created
>Then Hyrule

Wat
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>>151746890
Well if Labrynna and Holodrum are countries near Hyrule, then it would stand to reason they were created first, then Hyrule, because that is where the Goddesses exited. If they came back to make Labrynna and Holodrum after Hyrule, then would they not also have their own Triforce from their exit points?
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>>151746485
That isn't porn

It also looks great, keep it up
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>You will never visit Calatia.
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>>151747495
Calatia is OoT/ALttP Hyrule.
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>>151747605
Citation needed.
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>>151746485
YESYESYES
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>>151747927
>AoL map
>Death Mountain is in the southwest
>Lost woodsto the south of that
>OoT/ALttP Hyrule
>Death Mountain is in the northeast and Lost woods to the south of that
>Calatia is the to the west of Death Mountain in AoL
>West of Death Mountain in OoT is Hyrule Castle, Hyrule Field, Lake Hylia, and Gerudo Valley
>West of Death Mountain in ALttP is Lost Woods (once was Hyrule Castle based on area matching up), Kakariko Village (Hyrule Field), Desert of Mystery (Lake Hylia) and even further things west of that
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>>151746485
Noice
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>>151748280
Bad fanfiction. When you have a theory, just say you have a theory. Don't pretend that something is established just because you want it to be.
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>>151748552
I'm not sure if you're baiting or not. You can literally look at the maps and figure that out.

Besides if you wanna go that route, Calatia isn't even canon, its from the comics.
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>>151745985
I'll never understand Tingle's existance in WW. Tingle should be confined in the Child timeline. He never appeared in OoT or before. Well, ok, he was in Minish Cap but we all know MC is a very strange entity in the series, considering Malon and Din, Farore and Nayru all appear in it.
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>>151748742
It isn't canon. When you have a theory, people would probably love to discuss the theory. Popping out and pretending your theory is fact, is complete bullshit that destroys all discussion. That's not even factoring in that map overlays are the lowest form of theorist material.
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>>151707947
This is by far my favorite overworld theme
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>>151748742
He is baiting. We got a new epic rusemen since last thread. He purposely miss the point of your posts so he can shitpost. He just want your juicy (you).
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>>151749110
The short answer is that Nintendo hadn't invented the split yet, they only talked about OOT having more than one ending. There is hidden text in WW that tells of the events in MM as seen from Tingle's distorted perspective.

If you want a plausible theory, you could say that he existed in all timelines, and that TRR told why he is immortal. Or you could just say he is some new guy that coincidentally looks the same.
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>>151749119
Its not even about overlays. Its the equivalent of the having a map of the New England and it having (West America) on the map to that, and then there are other games that come out that are west of that original New England place. Of course they would be the same.

It is stupidly obvious what Calatia is based on AoL's map and locations alone in comparison to the others. It has nothing to do with theories or "map overlays", its more in your face than something two inches from your eyes.

And as I said, complaining about 'theories' and 'fanfiction' when you bring up a place that is nothing more than fanfic and has never been canon in the first place destroys your credibility as well.

Its like looking at OoT and WW's maps, are you gonna start arguing that its a theory that Forbidden Woods and the Kokiri Forest are one in the same, or that Death Mountain and Dragon Roost aren't the same, despite them matching up perfectly and it being stupidly obvious? No, so why do you do it with other things?
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>>151749398
>There is hidden text in WW that tells of the events in MM as seen from Tingle's distorted perspective
COOL
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>>151749336
Apparently, I've seen it quite a bit in the last few threads where an anon just calls everything fanfic or theories when he doesn't personally agree with it even though everything makes perfect sense.
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>>151749660
Everything you said plus some poster calling you a shitposter or your posts bait if he disagrees with your point of view.
Plus concern trolling towards BotW.

Diagnosis: we have a 15 years old shitposter among us that thinks to be some hot troll.
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This is why we can't have nice things.
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>>151749398
>There is hidden text in WW that tells of the events in MM as seen from Tingle's distorted perspective.
Really? Where?
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>>151750384
The Legend of the Fairy. It was part of a quest that used a connected gameboy to find a set of tingle statues. You can still get the statues without a gameboy, but you have to know where to place some bombs in the dungeons.
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Wow. A Link Between Worlds is either really easy or the ball hasn't dropped yet
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>>151751643
Its very easy, much like ALttP. There is one dungeon that can be particularly annoying just because Lyenels are annoying and the area to get there is, but its only annoying if you try to do it immediately.

That is the one flaw with doing dungeons in any order, they all have to be adjusted so they aren't all too hard if you do them in a random order.
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>>151751643
>>151751643
It's really easy
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>>151751879
>they all have to be adjusted so they aren't all too hard if you do them in a random order.
No fuck that, LoZ did the right thing in locking some levels until you got some items and had much tougher enemies in higher level dungeons.

Let the player decide what he wants to do, but have the player adapt to the level, don't adapt the level to the player.
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>>151752051
While I agree, that design philosophy is long since gone, especially with Nintendo. People who are growing up on games now need to have ease of access and such, and while that is unfortunate for many of us older people who played on much harder systems and games, it is the truth.

This is why I'm personally worried about BotW. I think it'll be a fun game, but I fear for the Shrines since you can seemingly just go to them regardless, so they might all be very similar in difficulty and none of them will actually require you to think beyond "oh, that is something a 5-6 year old can figure out."
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>>151752294
BotW's stamina meter will be the device they use to control game order. They know how high they can make a cliff before Link can't climb it, so they can force Link into pathways when they want to. You'll get big fields that funnel into entrances that are hard to avoid, but it will make sense because an army would naturally look for those kinds of areas to put their traps.
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>>151752051
That's because LoZ gives you only the apparance of freedom. You are not really free and the core game is still linear.
While ALBW is the first and only Zelda where you REALLY have freedom. At a price, of course. You can't have everything.
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>>151753231
Yeah, but they can't do it too often or it'll break the mold of open-world. There are still plenty of open fields that likely 2-3 shrines will exist within that you can just go to. Like their intention is for you to get some clothes to go into snowy areas, but if you have say enough food to increase your hearts you can just go through it just fine, same probably with Death Mountain/Lava and having armor.
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>>151753287
We haven't actually played it yet, it could still push a quest order. It is hard for them to tell a story without encouraging a script. This feels like when SS showed us flying, and then we all later found out that it was limited to the over-world.
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>>151753767
>it was limited to the over-world.
You mean hub
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>>151753481
They'll have other ways too. Crossing water with the only boat being at location X. The dungeon entrance being a doorway in one location. Something behind a frozen waterfall. Etc...
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>>151754014
See that I feel is far too restricting when it comes to what they're intending. I mean the 4 shrines on the Great Plateau can be accessed in whatever order. I can't honestly imagine they'll pigeon hold you into certain areas, outside of "hey this area has the next story objective, try there." instead of "there is only one path here, go that way instead of finding your own way there.".
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I figure the overworld's going to be limited by the items you have to traverse it but the dungeons themselves can be done in a random order, so there will be secret ways to get into each area with basic equipment
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>WW song in TP
Explain this, Hyrule Historia

https://youtu.be/ixf-_DZS1O8
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>>151755329
The shrines themselves though, are single doorways. The dungeons will probably be the same way. By the very nature of the doorway, you can't avoid the area at the entrance, and pathways leading to them. It's like the WW Islands. You can approach the islands from any angle, but you still have to land on the beach and climb up to an entrance. This is like WW, but they've drained the ocean so you have to walk.
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>>151755837
>The dungeons will probably be the same way
Top asspull over there.
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>>151755706
These are all songs that OOT Link would know, and he is supposed to be the Hero's Shade.
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>>151756261
>These are all songs that OOT Link would know,
How would OoT Link know a WW song?
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>>151756381
He didn't learn WW songs in OOT or MM, but if you want a plausible excuse, they probably already existed in his lifetime. WW Link doesn't write the songs, he finds them on ancient tablets.
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>>151756218
Assume what you want until the game comes out. I have doubts that they will make large puzzle dungeons and then provide a way to circumvent actually going through them. As amusing as it would be to be able to slip in the back window of a dungeon and then slip back out, the game would be over somewhat quickly.
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who else /fishfucker/ here
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>>151758416
You can't just fuck a nice Zora girl, you have to romance her first. Lay the charm on thick like tartar sauce. It's the sweet talk that makes her caviar quiver in excitement.
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>>151758416
Yeah, I have costant porn dreams about Jabun too.
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>>151758416
You don't actually fuck em. They lay the eggs and you cum on them.
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>>151758416
>/fishfucker/
>not /fuckaduck/
Extremely shit taste
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http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Rosa
wife.
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>>151759586
She still has other holes.
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>>151760043
Hena has some cute competition.
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>>151760057
Only the mouth. No other hole is visible.
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>>151760345
You have to spread the cheeks. Expect the whole area to be naturally highly lubricated.
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>>151760327
best part is she follows you still even when her role has ended and you get to date her endlessly but the drawback is she can't leave Subrosia. so if you want her you have to be able to keep taking the portals to Subrosia. and she appears again on Crescent Isle in a Linked game of Oracle of Ages. she's a keeper.
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>>151739540
Anybody have the super fast version of this gif that was posted who knows how many threads ago?
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>You will never sample her soup.
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>>151763454
>not Kina
Bah.
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>>151764502
She's only into mogma.
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>>151705119
Would /lozg/ like to get some lore on the kingdom of Ikana?
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>>151765595
I'm not sure there is any area in all the games that doesn't have some unknown origin that could be given some needed lore.
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>>151765595
Man, all the recent OPs have been huge fags.
One anon made a splendid lore compilation of sheikah and nobody bothered to put it in the OP.
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>>151761848
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>>151765595
I'd be down to read some lore on it and theories.
>>151767163
Its all good anon, I can repost it if you want for people to read.
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>>151767163
I've done the last two threads.

Make something nice looking for it and if I'm around to make the next thread I'll add. So far I've just copied the OP from previous threads, no need to call people fags.

You fag
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He has a point, you know
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>>151767631
>I can repost it if you want for people to read.
Please do. It was pretty solid.
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>>151767689
I don't even think she magically transforms herself honestly other than the clothes. I mean she still looks like Zelda but with contacts, taped down breasts, and her hair braided. Sure she's a bit more toned, but she can definitely be that toned, its hard to tell in her dress, the only difference is the biceps, which can still be fairly toned honestly.
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>>151767867
Sheikah Lore - Note its not perfect and I may have missed some things, and people can fix or adjust my poor writing and so on and so on you get the point.

http://pastebin.com/Cvc3Ziwp (Appearances)
http://pastebin.com/KRTD4Rbt (Sheikah Symbol & Eye Symbols)
http://pastebin.com/AQ2qbbjV (Theories/History)
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>>151767385
Thank you!
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>>151767886
She also has bigger shoulders and totally different eye shape, see >>151717056
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>>151768543
The power of make-up.
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Goodnight
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>>151769498
Every fucking day. Every single fucking day when i come home this little faggot just goes to sleep and posts the same webms
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>>151767689
>What if Sheik is a completely different person
What if your mom orbits around my dick?

Call Sheik male all you want, but the idea of "him" just being Zelda's stunt double is the most infuriating thing to have ever been invented by yaoi fanfiction.
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>Complainfag woke up
Welp, time to go away
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>>151718950
this

and of course the midnafags all fatfags too
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>>151767886
I'm not sure she needs to tape anything down. Zelda's not especially stacked.
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>Got the Master Sword, made it to Lorule, met Hilda, saved one sage, saved the Thief Girl and made it into the Swamp Dungeon
Well I'm having fun.
I need pictures of thief girl
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Are there any unique items you want from Breath of the Wild, or would you be fine with just the standard items?
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Does anyone here has hyrule warriors legends, and hasn't used up their DLC code. I really don't like beginners but I exhausted all my alternatives.
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>>151775269
Give me a loftwing.
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thread slow to dead
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If you were Link, what would you buy Cia for her birthday? Hard mode, 20 rupee limit.
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>>151778037
I give her the D instead
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>>151778037
A one way ticket to the Lost Woods.
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>>151778037
Give her the Triforce
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>>151778037
My dick is free, I don't need to buy her shit.
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>>151778206
>>151778835
Since when is Link a 20 rupee whore?
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>>151779402
IF YOU we're Link, anon. I'd be a 20 rupee whore for Cia any day.
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>>151778037
I'd have consensual sex in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation while I stroked her hair and lightly kissed her on the lips. Then we'd raise our child in a house with a white picket fence and a dog in Hyrule Field, grow old and die together.

Or I'd buy her a nice masquerade mask and enjoy a fancy ball with her.
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>>151781620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lblwsR2mdiA
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>>151781965
That was pretty good
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Link is now a stand user. What stand does he get?
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>>151782848
This is good...isn't it?
>>151784082
Fierce Deity
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>>151778037
the sex tape I made with saria :3
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Fucking hell, I was about to beat the boss of the first temple and the time ran out, will I have to do the ENTIRE dungeon again?
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>>151786321
>3D
As long as you got in the boss room, that's a resounding NO. You get a free warp.
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>>151786321
Welp, apparently yes, bye, I will throw my cartridge on the toilet and flush it down, this game is garbage, I can't believe I've just lost one hour of my life like this
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>>151786525
Nope, I just got into the dungeon again, it just restarted it without the map or compass, I don't even have the bow
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>>151786321
You can skip a large portion of it now that you have the bow.

Also if you want extra time play the Song of Time backwards, it cuts time in half. Once you beat the boss, you'll get free warps back to them so you can quickly just kill them and fix the areas so you don't have to do the dungeons again.
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>>151786543
Did you not get to the boss room? You should be able to tear through the dungeon anyway, seeing as you just beat it. The infuriating part is the Zora and Goron Moon Dungeons, nothing else really.
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>>151784359
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>>151786686
You should definitely have the bow still if you got it prior to resetting. If not, you've somehow bugged the game out in a way I've never seen. You may not have arrows, but you still have the bow.
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>>151786904
Oops, posted the wrong one.
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>>151786798
>>151786713
>>151786946

I didn't beat the boss, I wasted like 3 minutes thinking I was supposed to drop down on his head instead of dropping deku nuts

The time ran out in the middle of the boss fight, so I just got a reset, the bow didn't stay with me.

Fucking hell, I will give it another try and use a walkthrough this time
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>>151784082
Door of Time

It just works
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>>151787163
>not Time Fuckery
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>>151787159
You've definitely bugged the game then if you don't have the bow. Are you absolutely sure you don't have the bow? You should have it just with no arrows. Which you can easily get from some grass in Termina Field and skip the majority of the dungeon, just hit the eye, raise the platform, kill the frog, get the boss key, and then go back to the boss.
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>>151787159
No items should be removed from your inventory except for consumables when you travel back in time.

Though actually I've never gone back in time by letting time run out, maybe that works differently?
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>>151787342
>>151787608

I'm pretty sure I don't have it, maybe you only keep it if you use the song of time, rather than letting the moon fall
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>>151787682
Yeah, Song of Time saves the game, I think by letting the moon fall you went back to a previous save. Weird.
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>Be Link.
>Camp out for the night.
>Wake up and your clothing has been stolen.
>Know Cia took it because she left her own clothing behind.
>Appointment to save Hyrule in half an hour.

What do you do?
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>>151788548
Kill myself.
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>>151788548
Steal a Hylian Knight's mail.
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>>151790238
What if he has bills to pay? What if his grandmother died and he never finds out about it? Fucking dick.
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>>151790238
What will he wear? Link, you have to be a hero today.
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Clearly the courageous thing is to put on the dress and proceed to save the day.
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>>151778037
A romantic date
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>>151790754
I steal money from people's secret stashes all the time. I need protection.
>>151790238
Obviously he's not using it. I'll return it when I'm done.
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>>151786904
>>151787110
>psh, nothin' personal
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Finally decided to get TP HD. I forgot how much I hated these stupid fucking kids and Ilia.
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>>151795379
Malo isn't included, right?
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>>151795978
From what I remember, personality wise he isn't too bad, I do find his design incredibly weird though.
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>>151796348
He makes sense when you see his mother.
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>>151795379
>hating ilia

Midna fags everyone, so deluded that they even hate canon girl for Link
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>>151796675
I'm no midnafag, but her face is atrocious and she can fuck off trying to take my horse from me.
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>>151796808
He's just false-flagging, don't bother.
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>>151712665
>>151712754
I don't see it, he looks more like the more classic Link designs given an adult form in the modern style.
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>>151714646
Kill me
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The thread is dying guys, it must be midna fags.
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>>151799830
>The thread is dying guys
Nah, timezones bruh
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>>151800063
I'm mocking someone, anon. Let me be.
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>>151800159
Beh
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Do any of you bother to read the manga? Do you like them?
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>>151800842
Haven't seen them. You could always storytime them if you like.
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>>151800961
too much work
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>>151800842
I love 'em
They add great flavour.
RIP Volvagia.
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>>151801082
Please?
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>>151801170
no
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>>151801157
I felt nothing when I read that. There wasn't enough buildup for there to be much emotion
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>>151801604
I tend to read a lot of short run manga, so what little setup there was hit me pretty well.
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I was flipping through my copy of Hyrule Historia and I saw a Zelda concept drawing in a sci-fi outfit. Would a sci-fi Zelda game work while still feeling like a Zelda game?
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>>151800842
>Epona is a girl too
>So you have to treat her nice like one

What did she mean by this?
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>>151802894
Horse pussy
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>>151802829
You could probably have a Zelda game with literally any theme. Only the weapons and scenery really changes.
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>>151802829
Yes.
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>>151802894
Ilia is flirting. Link knows what she means.
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>Link, you need to rescue seven more captured koroks from the great calamity! Bring me 581 more rupees, 7 more ordon pumpkins, 11 more keese wings, 28 more lizalfos tails and 4 more baublin charms to unlock a spell to divine the next location!
>Link have you guessed your purpose? You must travel through the wild realm again to collect these 20 jewels of naydin in this sepulchre! Be careful not to awake any stalking beasts
>Link you've been playing over 60 minutes, you should consider going outside! I will save your progress and turn off the NX in 20 minutes
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>>151802894
JRHNBR
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>>151803419
Pointless, have a (You)
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Goodnight, /lozg/

Dont die while i'm gone
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>>151803419
Number 47 pls go.

>>151803423
Please tell me what this means.
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>>151803884
im 47 fuck you
hes 48
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>>151804773
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Fi is dead. Forever and ever
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>>151710898
nice
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>>151804919
No
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>>151804919
God I hope so. Worst companion in the series by far.
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I've never really understood all the companion hate. If i didn't want to talk to Navi or Midna or Fi, I just didn't push their button.
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>>151808579
That's mostly true for Navi and Midna, but Fi had so much forced dialogue that added nothing and just slowed down an already snail-paced game.
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>>151808686
Navi still had that annoying sound reminding you to see what she has to say.
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>>151808686
Fi just had dialogue in the game, it wasn't annoying or "too much", mostly just devoid of personality.

The game wasn't snailpaced at all, unless you consider dungeons slow as fuck, and that might be attributed to you not being able to deal with puzzles.
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>>151809475
I like Fi but there definitely a bit too much
>Cutscene shows you thing you're supposed to do
>"Master this is what you have to do"
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>>151803884
>just right height no bucket required
sex horse
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>>151744530
Does this mean Zelda could get a dick in female form and impregnate Link?
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>>151811916

mares do orgasm, yes they do

it's called a maregasm
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Zelda will be as much of a boy with her sheik magic as Seiba ever was in Fate.

Merlin notwithstanding of course.
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>>151812309
Link is still a male though, how can he get pregnant?
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>>151813005
>Male: Pregnancy
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>>151813005
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>>151813432
>>151813443
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>>151813757
Watt M8?
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Is there any way to unlock hero mode in Skyward Sword without playing through the game?

I beat it on my Wii and want to replay through hero mode on my Wii U without doing the total system transfer.
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>>151815076
Is there any way to get a savefile from Wii to Wii U with an SD card or whatever?
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WOW! that second trailer was fucking amazing! I can't wait to fly a loftwing!
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>>151815089
Every fucking day. Every single fucking day when i come home this little faggot just wakes up and posts the same webms
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>>151815382
If only anon. Hopefully they show something new and interesting for their next trailer. Seems like they're keeping a tight lid on everything though sadly.
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>>151815678
It will surprise you but that guy isn't me.
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>>151815382
Can't wait to see that Fi is still dead!
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>No new botw info and shitposting make /lozg/ a dead thread
>No new botw info and shitposting make /lozg/ a dead thread
>No new botw info and shitposting make /lozg/ a dead thread
>No new botw info and shitposting make /lozg/ a dead thread
>No new botw info and shitposting make /lozg/ a dead thread
>No new botw info and shitposting make /lozg/ a dead thread
>No new botw info and shitposting make /lozg/ a dead thread
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>NX will be WEAKER than wii u
oh god
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>>151817656
It will be on par or slightly more powerful.
Either way, it will be more powerful than a Vita, which is all that matters.
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>>151817880

Choo choo, make way for another system dead on arrival, Nintendo is fucking up this generation just like they did with the Wii U
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>>151817656
I'm probably going to buy an NX just to play this but if they actually fuck up that hard and make it weaker than the wii u I will seriously reconsider
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>>151818012
>>151817980
For a handheld, being not much powerful never mattered. The GBA was less powerful than the GC, the PSP was weaker than the ps3, the DS was weaker than the Wii and so on.

If you want a home console version of botw, buy a Wii U.
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>>151818495

>buy a dead console abandoned by the company
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>>151818495
yeah except that the wii u is going to be 2-3 generations behind on graphics next year compared to PC

botw is going to look ugly as fuck with all that popin and slowdown and lack of post processing
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>>151818679
>yeah except that the wii u is going to be 2-3 generations behind on graphics next year compared to PC

>comparing consoles to PC
>comparing a NINTENDO console to PC
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>>151818760
hey my 4 year old budget laptop is comparable to a PS4 still so I'm allowed to compare them
nintendo was once pretty close to the cutting edge with the gamecube
aaaaand NX is going to release in 2016 with graphics only barely better than the gamecube
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>>151818553
Then enjoy the handheld version, I guess.
>>151818679
Even GTA V has pop ins. All open world games suffer of those problems, Witcher 3 too. Besides, if you expect super grappix from a Nintendo game, you are frankly a huge retard.
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>>151819125
GTAV and witcher 3 have good graphics with long range pop-in
BotW has shit graphics with extremely noticeable short range pop-in everywhere

considering the trees barely look better than a 2d sprite it begs to question where all the graphical resources go, even the wii u should be able to do better
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>>151819584

Nintendo games have shitty graphics. No surprise there.
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>>151819584
>>151819909

It's almost like Nintendo caters to people who enjoy playing fun games instead of little kids who think graphical fidelity is somehow an indicator of how good a game is.
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>>151820172
>b-but graphics don't matter at all when nintendo does it! every game should just have black and white pixel graphics, gameplay is more important!

When I saw the posts above I KNEW someone would post this exact reply. It happens every time without fail.
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>>151820172

and yet Nintendo continues to flounder in this industry
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>>151820416
>b-bad graphics! it doesn't look as good as gtav or the witcher 3! nintendo is dead!
When I saw a Zelda thread I KNEW someone would post this exact reply. It happens every time without fail.
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>>151820416
>>151820967
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>>151820967
>brings up games known for having amazing top-tier realistic graphics even though nobody was talking about realism
Was also expecting this exact reply. You need to get new material, anon.
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>>151821120
see >>151819584
lrn2reed
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Sigh, graphicsfags. Go figure, shitposters already found a way to not allow us to enjoy botw.

Don't you dare enjoying a game!
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>>151819584
>>151817656
I kept asking back when the stream happened but no one seemed to know. What is the girl on the far right's name? Anyone know?
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>>151821329
>defending downgrading
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>>151822780
>not realizing that every AAA game that is ever shown off at these events suffers from downgrade by the time it's released
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>>151822892

>it's okay when Nintendo does it!
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>When the porn threads have better discussions that the general
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>>151823065
idk how you thought that's what I was getting at
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>>151823065
>it's ok when others do it but not when Nintendo does it!
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>>151823223

That's because they lead the market. They're obviously doing something right.

Nintendo needs to catch up to devs like Ubisoft and Activision if they hope to stay afloat in the industry.
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Imagine being so lonely and virgin to come in a slow ass general to get some (you). When on /v/ you could get 3 times much.
I don't think there isn't a more pathetic being in the world.
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>>151823459
>Sipping hot cocoa pleasantly wrapped up in comfy snug blanket
>Slowly drift off to sleep
>I'm unboxing my NX, plugging in Breath of the Wild cartridge
>Blown away by awesome menu and cutscenes
>Paragliding around plateau and lighting fires and beating moblins up with their own severed arms
>Holy shit this is awesome Its better than sex Its better than OOT Its game of the century
>Reach edge of plateau
>"Its not safe yet to proceed Hero, you must turn around!"
>Okay guys I'll return later...
>Cruising through forest temple and beat the ancient colossus with my fire wand to god tier soundtrack
>Have now reached third temple
>"Ganons forces have descended and destroyed this temple Hero, this is all that remains"
>Huh thats kind of disappointing, have to backtrack to edge of map an-
>Entire rest of map is an ocean
>Endless ocean in all directions
>"Hero, you must collect these twenty pieces of the Triforce to defeat Ganon!"
>"Collect these 200 music notes to receive a chart you need to decipher!"
>what the fu-
>*Finglevi pops up and interrupts gameplay*
>"Heykoo Heykoo Listenpah, Fairy Master, I can decipher your chart for only 673 rupees each"
>"Fairy Master, I have determined a 93% chance that your wii remote is nearly out of batteries, shouldn't I repeat this or not? (X) Yes (_) Yes"
>"Fairy Master, I have determined a 93% chance that your wii remote is nearly out of batteries, shouldn't I repeat this or not? (X) Yes (_) Yes"
>wake up screaming NOOOOOOOOOOOO
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No more (you) for you in slow Euro hours.
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>>151824287
Wind waker was the worst 3d zelda game
Heres some objective facts:

>Between 1/2 and 1/3 of the dungeons were completely cut during development
>Of the remaining dungeons, 2 were just made by recycling material you already played once, and the rest were the worst dungeons in any 3d zelda
>2/3 of the islands in the great sea were copy/paste jobs of repetitive reefs, fairy islands, triangle beam islands or featureless archipelagos
>There were only 4 creatures in the whole great sea and repeated endlessly with no difference between any environment
>Sailing was incredibly monotonous and used to pad gameplay length
>The second half of the game was just filler fetch quests to pad gameplay length
>Combat was so pathetically easy and trivialized you could do it blind folded
>The items were just copy/pasted from OOT/MM, again
>Worst bosses of 3d zeldas until TP/SS came along
>Terrible soundtrack
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No thanks
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>>151824538
Here's your (you).

>WW has 6 dungeons, 2 were cut (due to fan demand that it come out already)
>Are you really saying that anything in WW is more badly designed that the Water Temple, Great Bay Temple, or Snowhead Temple?
>Yes there were a lot of repeat islands. How is this any different than the rest of the 3D Zeldas? Oh hey, TP's Hyrule Field is just a copypaste of grass and trees and sometimes an enemy!
>I can think of 10 right off the bat.
>Just like running around Hyrule in every single game? Ah man, I have to run back to Kakariko Village? How monotonous and padding, just instantly teleport me there.
>The second half of the game consists of Earth Temple, Wind Temple, Forsaken Fortress, Ganon's Tower, and Triforce Shards. Also Triforce Shards were only added because fans demanded the game be released consistently so they dumped 2 Temples and threw it in and released it.
>Just like every Zelda.
>OoT copied its items from ALttP.
>Not at all. MM has the worst bosses in the series besides Goht and Non-FD Majora. They're clunky and terribly done despite how good the game is.
>Also wrong.
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>>151826446
>2 were cut
greatfish isle, fire temple and ice temple were all cut that we know about

>implying snowhead temple was bad
dafaq wrong with you
and water temple was great. Hard =/= bad

>Yes there were a lot of repeat islands. How is this any different than the rest of the 3D Zeldas?
because once you strip away the copy/pasted islands, the full explorable map of WW was pathetically small compared to the other games. They only created 4 full sized islands that were pretty much like towns in the other games, dragon roost, forest, windfall and outset. Meanwhile OOT had kokiri forest, lost woods, hyrule field, lon lon ranch, castle town, castle, kakariko, death mountain, death mountain crater lake hyrule, zora's river, zora's domain, gerudo valley, haunted wasteland
each of the 4 big islands wasn't much more detailed than any of those
WW had a very small amount of content spread over a very large and empty map

>I can think of 10 right off the bat.
Gyorg
Battleship
Peahat
Kargaroc
Octarok
thats it

>Just like running around Hyrule in every single game? Ah man, I have to run back to Kakariko Village? How monotonous and padding, just instantly teleport me there.
None of the 3d zeldas used the travel times as a crutch to lengthen gameplay time. Getting around hyrule was fast and painless in OOT/MM and you got the ability to teleport early in MM/TP and far less restricted than WW.
WW you spent a shit ton of time sailing from point A to point B, shame the map was so fucking empty and only filled with 4-5 enemies

>The second half of the game
second half of the game consists of running around deciphering charts for a bajillion rupees, then doing fetchquests. Grinding and fetchquests instead of dungeons lmao

>Just like every Zelda.
REFER TO PIC
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>>151826446
>>151827670
>>OoT copied its items from ALttP.
Fire/Cold/Light arrows with different effects
Lens of Truth
Bombchu
Deku Nut
Deku Stick
Slingshot
Farore's Wind
Nayru's Love
2 handed sword
silver/golden scale
masks system with functional masks (bunny ears, mask of truth, skull mask)
various bottled items (bugs, poes, blue fire, milk)

>Not at all. MM has the worst bosses in the series besides Goht and Non-FD Majora. They're clunky and terribly done despite how good the game is.
odolwa isn't bad and some of the minibosses are good

>Also wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCUu1jvn2os
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>>151827670
>greatfish isle, fire temple and ice temple were all cut that we know about

Greatfish Isle was never intended to be a Temple. Only the Fire and Ice Temples were retrofitted into the timed islands, and again this is due to fan demand, not Nintendo. Should they have told the fans to fuck off, yes, but fans are still largely to blame.
>dafaq wrong with you
Snowhead is terribly designed. It feels less a dungeon and more like an obstacle course.
>and water temple was great. Hard =/= bad
Never said it was hard, but it becomes pointlessly tedium when you constantly have to open the menu to equip the Iron Boots, granted this was fixed in the 3DS version. It was poorly thought out, as was the key placement. The amount of dungeons does not equate to quality either, ie: MM.

>WW had a very small amount of content spread over a very large and empty map
Just like OoT. I'm sorry, I love OoT, but half the places you listed are bland and empty too. Lon Lon Ranch is basically the equivalent of a Mini-game island in WW, same with Lost Woods. Both are there for very specific things and that is that. As for WW, it had more than 4 Islands with things to do on them.

Tower of Gods, Dragon Roost, Forbidden Woods/Forest Haven, Windfall Island, Earth/Wind Temple Islands, Outset Island, Forsaken Fortress. Its no different.

>Creatures
Its convenient you leave off all the things you can see on the sea. Which is.

Hylians
Bokoblins
Kargarocs
Gorons
Peahats
Battleships
Gyorgs
Fishman
Ritos
Koroks
Octaroks
Cyclos

Those are all creatures you can interact with or fight
.
>Getting around hyrule was fast and painless in OOT/MM and you got the ability to teleport early in MM/TP and far less restricted than WW.
You didn't get the ability to warp in TP until you had gotten the Master Sword. That is 3 dungeons in. You got the ability to warp in WW once you got the Master Sword, also 3 dungeons in. You didn't get the ability to warp in OoT until you were 3 dungeons in.

(cont).
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>>151828162

I'd argue the fire and ice arrows are the fire and ice rod. Just worse.

The slingshot is just the bow mechanically though.

Farore's wind works like the magic mirror in some ways.

you could get bees in ALttP

Everything else item wise I'd agree.

and come on now to pick one shitty track out of the rest of the soundtrack isn't fair, the other games in the series have had a shitty track here and there.

https://youtu.be/5J_bL2bjQ-k
https://youtu.be/XF24XSYYiDw
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>>151827670
>shame the map was so fucking empty and only filled with 4-5 enemies

Lets count all the enemies of OoT's map.

Peahats
Stalchildren
Keese
Octoroks
Tek-tikes

>second half of the game consists of running around deciphering charts for a bajillion rupees, then doing fetchquests. Grinding and fetchquests instead of dungeons lmao

It does not, the second half of the game is the moment you get the Master Sword and begin to do the Temple segments. Much like ALttP, OoT, TP, etc. Besides you don't need to get a 'bajillion' rupees as every chart as pots right beside of it that add up to the desired amount to get it deciphered, the HD version also largely fixed this quest.

>REFER TO PIC
Is not hard, bombs instantly break LoZ. AoL is your only argument, and even then since ALttP the games have been pathetically easy.
>>151828162
Hammer, Bow, Hookshot, Bombs, Bottles, Medallions/Goddess Magic, Scales/Fins, Silver/Light Arrows, Ocarina/Flute.

While yes, OoT did have more items that were unique to itself, a lot of it has been copied from ALttP.

>odolwa isn't bad and some of the minibosses are good
Terrible boss. While his design is cool, he largely does nothing and stands there waiting to be hit while he dances around.

>OST
Don't cherry pick, because I can do the same with OoT below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CgrxJzbQkY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlF0-Qs2xkI

Also WW has good music.
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>>151828474
You'd be right actually. OoT was originally billed as an AoL remake. Through development, it switched over to an ALttP remake, which is why it retains very huge similarities to both games, more so to ALttP. It eventually changed the Dark World gimmick into that of time-traveling and OoT itself was born.

In fact, one of the bosses in OoT is a boss from AoL still, Volvagia .
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>>151828872

>we almost had a remake of Zelda 2

that would explain the beta footage of Link freely jumping and shit.

Fuck
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>WW has bad music meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCKUR_XBNYk

First damn song you hear besides the title screen music.
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>>151828316
greatfish isle was clearly meant to be a temple. You just get handed the bombs and the 3rd pearl despite all the work that went into getting the previous 2 items and pearl. And the island itself is gigantic but completely featureless. The island is marked on the map as a major isle and forms the image of the triforce when connected with the triangle islands


>Just like OoT. I'm sorry, I love OoT, but half the places you listed are bland and empty too.
yeah but they aren't any more bland than the islands in wind waker. Wind waker just has way LESS areas to explore.
windfall island is no more detailed than castle town. Forest haven is literally just 1 room and then the surrounding platforms, is that any more detailed than say the gerudo fortress and surrounding areas, or lake hylia?

earth/wind islands had NO area above the dungeon. Thats like on par with a single grotto in OOT
forsaken fortress / tower of the gods / etc were dungeons and have to be compared to the OOT dungeons like ganons castle and under the well, those don't count towards castle town or kakariko

>ritos/fishman/gorons/hylians/koroks
those aren't enemies in the sea
NPC's =/= enemies

>You didn't get the ability to warp in TP until you had gotten the Master Sword. That is 3 dungeons in. You got the ability to warp in WW once you got the Master Sword, also 3 dungeons in. You didn't get the ability to warp in OoT until you were 3 dungeons in.
yeah and you spent like 1/10 of the time traveling when the areas were closer together and had shortcuts and faster transportation
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>>151828872
>You'd be right actually. OoT was originally billed as an AoL remake
I have never heard this. This sounds like something an autistic kid on Zelda Universe made up to sound smart.
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>>151829006

>that surge into the triumphant overworld theme

Hnngh.Every time.
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>>151828967
Yep a few things were different back then.

The Water Sage was originally male while Ruto was the Forest Sage, Saria didn't even exist. Through development Ruto was originally made to be the Water Sage, and Saria was ultimately created. Though Miyamoto felt that due to her connection with Link that she had to be dialed back so that she wouldn't overshadow Zelda.

Phantom Ganon also originally started out as Rebonack, but was also changed.
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>>151828771
>Lets count all the enemies of OoT's map.

OOT's map was all the connecting areas not just hyrule field.

>Peahats
>Stalchildren
>Keese
>Octoroks
>Leevers
>Deku Scrubs
>Tektikes
>Bubbles
>Skulltula
>Deku babas
>Guay
>Poe
>Wolfos
>Moblins

those weren't just found in dungeons
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>>151828474
>>151828771
>While yes, OoT did have more items that were unique to itself, a lot of it has been copied from ALttP.

both OOT and MM had a considerable amount of NEW items added to the franchise
MM had all the masks

what did wind waker have?
grappling hook, telescope, deku leaf... hyoi pear?
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>>151829193
If we're drawing parallels between the games, the great sea would be like hyrule field. The islands would be like the smaller areas of OoT, like the forest, the desert, zora fountain, hyrule castle, lon lon ranch, etc.
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>>151829151
>Phantom Ganon also originally started out as Rebonack, but was also changed.

Fuck. I can see that too
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>>151829035
>greatfish isle was clearly meant to be a temple. You just get handed the bombs and the 3rd pearl despite all the work that went into getting the previous 2 items and pearl. And the island itself is gigantic but completely featureless. The island is marked on the map as a major isle and forms the image of the triforce when connected with the triangle islands
It wasn't. Considering the amount of things you have to do with Tetra's Pirates on Windfall and ultimately sailing back to Outset, its very clear that it was always intended that way, as opposed to left over assets like the Fire/Ice Islands. There is too much coding going on with it always being night, raining, and the interactions of certain NPCs, that a dungeon would have easily fit there instead.

That also would have been one of the first few dungeons design. You can't tell me that they designed all these other places, and then forgot about the third dungeon, but already had the coding in place for the events.
>yeah but they aren't any more bland than the islands in wind waker. Wind waker just has way LESS areas to explore.
They have about the same.
>windfall island is no more detailed than castle town. Forest haven is literally just 1 room and then the surrounding platforms, is that any more detailed than say the gerudo fortress and surrounding areas, or lake hylia?
Gerudo Fortress is copypasted environments throughout the entire thing beyond the Ice Arrow Rooms and Arrow Contest.

Also Earth/Wind Temples are more akin to the Shadow Temple.
>those aren't enemies in the sea
You said creatures, not enemies. Those are all creatures. Again, OoT doesn't have that many as well.
>yeah and you spent like 1/10 of the time traveling when the areas were closer together and had shortcuts and faster transportation
Just like WW since it has warps to all the major points on the map?
>>151829141
You can easily just google it and find out.
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>>151829297
but its not like hyrule field
theres not enough large islands to form a parallel with all the areas in the other games
if you stapled the maps together, the non-copy/pasted islands would only make up like 1/3 of the OOT map outside of hyrule field. Even the biggest islands (outset, forest haven, dragon roost) are just on par with normal towns/areas in OOT
for all the time you spend traveling between these islands you're just repeating the same 4-5 enemies
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>>151829193
>Using all of OoT's hyrule but not all of WW's map

That is stupid. The Great Sea is Hyrule Field equivalent, with Islands being the equivalency of Gerudo, Kakariko, etc. If we're gonna count all those enemies, then we have to count all the enemies on Dragon Roost, Forest Haven, Outset Island, etc.
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>>151829515
WW is actually bigger than OoT even if you slam the islands into each other and get rid of the sea. Also for all the time you spend traveling between key-points in OoT you're just dealing with Stalchildren, Poes, and Peahats.
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>>151829515
I didn't mean it like that. I meant from a gameplay perspective.
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>>151829445
>It wasn't. Considering the amount of things you have to do with Tetra's Pirates on Windfall and ultimately sailing back to Outset, its very clear that it was always intended that way, as opposed to left over assets like the Fire/Ice Islands. There is too much coding going on with it always being night, raining, and the interactions of certain NPCs, that a dungeon would have easily fit there instead.

not all cuts to the game have to occur at the same time
greatfish was cut earlier than the fire/ice temples.
they didn't need to develop the temples in order, and fire/ice temples were far enough along when cut that they had content to recycle for TP like the goron mines

>Gerudo Fortress is copypasted environments throughout the entire thing beyond the Ice Arrow Rooms and Arrow Contest.
theres the great canyon and bridge and the verticle platforming on it, then theres the fortress proper with paths around the outside, then the inside of the fortress minidungeon, then theres the gates, the archery course and the ice arrows minidungeon. Thats besides the river of sand, haunted wasteland + building and desert colossus What was going on in the forest haven?
you had the small outside entryway, the central climb on the tree, the merchant shop, the platforming around the outside of the island and the flying course to the dungeon, and then the gallery. Thats not more detail
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Fantastic thread. I can'tbegin to match you guys when it comes to knowledge of the Hyrule milieu or the characters in it but unusually for me I'm not poisonously jealous either.
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>>151829620
>even if you slam the islands into each other and get rid of the sea.
and when you get rid of the copy/pasted reefs, fairies and triangle islands?
count each area only once, and do the same to OOT for faerie fountains and grottos

> Also for all the time you spend traveling between key-points in OoT you're just dealing with Stalchildren, Poes, and Peahats.
guays and wolfos in lake hylia/river, deku scrubs/babas in the woods, tektites and gorons on death mountain, gerudos and leevers in the desert

those are all connecting areas, offshoots of hyrule field that lead to major locations like dungeons/towns

in wind waker, the ONLY connecting area is the great sea, and theres no difference in the great sea no matter what side of the map you're on. They could at least have made it so the far north had icebergs and ice enemies, the south had something different, the areas towards forsaken isle had better enemies, whatever, nope
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>>151829949
Lore speculations are the best part of the general. We have turly some Zelda experts here and I enjoy making questions.
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>>151829445
>You can easily just google it and find out.
Do you have a link? All I can find are articles pointing to a "Did You Know Gaming" video as a source, which is notorious for making up bullshit and spreading half-truths as facts.
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>>151829804
>greatfish was cut earlier than the fire/ice temples.

The only reason the Fire/Ice Temples were cut because development was rushed due to fan demand. They've been over that two dungeons ultimately didn't make it into the game, two.
>they didn't need to develop the temples in order, and fire/ice temples were far enough along when cut that they had content to recycle for TP like the goron mines
No, they didn't need to make the dungeons in order. Also if the Temples had been far enough along when they were cut, then they would have just been added, they had the time, due the Triforce Shard quest replacing them.
>theres the great canyon and bridge
With nothing to do there, beyond get two heart pieces.
>then theres the fortress proper with paths around the outside
The fortress proper being rather tiny and the paths around it existing everywhere in Zelda, regardless of game.
>then the inside of the fortress minidungeon
Which consists of about 6 rooms.
>then theres the gates
This means nothing. Its like saying "Well Windfall has a docks."
>the archery course and the ice arrows minidungeon.
A mini-game (which WW has plenty of) and a decent mini-dungeon which I will give you, despite how small it is.
>Thats besides the river of sand, haunted wasteland + building and desert colossus
Completely different areas, and you're complaining about traveling and nothing to do, yet you bring up the Haunted Wasteland, a thing where all you do is walk across a desert (there are no heart pieces or anything of real note beyond a man on a carpet) and you never visit it again.

As for Forest Haven, there are NPCs to talk to, enemies to fight getting there, a merchant shop, and an entrance to a dungeon. its not that different than Gerudo Fortress, which has, NPCs to talk to, enemies to fight getting there, an entrance to a dungeon. The only difference is it has no merchant shop and instead a mini-game.
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>>151830308
They never said that "only two dungeons were cut"
they acknowledge that "dungeons were cut". Plural, thats as specific as it gets

>With nothing to do there, beyond get two heart pieces.
grottos, tent with npcs, magic bean flying course, cuckoo flying, npcs gating it off as a child, and yes, heart peaces

>Which consists of about 6 rooms.
okay but we're comparing this to forest haven, which didn't even have 6 rooms


and I already listed all the stuff on forest haven, including the npc, merchant shop and path to the dungeon.

the fact that these two areas aren't much different in size and detail is the point, because OOT has way more areas on par with gerudo fortress than WW does on par with forest haven. WW has 4 big open islands total
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>>151830128
>OoT has 72 locations
>WW has 77 locations (from the same source)

How about that!

Also.

>Temple of Light
>User:Zelda4Life
>Giant Dead Dodongo
>Hyrule Appearances by Game
>Hyrule Locations and Landmarks
>Pedestal of Time
>Places in Ocarina of Time
>Temple
>Hyrule

OoT actually only has 61 places.
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>>151829006
I love that intro. So many interesting implications. How much time passed before Ganon came back? How did he do it? Where were the seven sages or at least their descendants?
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>>151830540
Not him, but there isn't a single Heart Piece in the Haunted Wasteland. The only Heart Piece in that area is the Magic Bean one on the rock in front of Desert Colossus' area.
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>>151830580
A good amount of time I imagine. The King appears to be dead in the Adult Timeline, we never see him in OoT whatsoever. Daphnes is old and Hyrule Castle has been rebuilt, its likely that he was OoT Zelda's son, so by the time of his old age Ganon probably broke free.

As for the Sages, who knows where their descendants or successors are. They may have just failed.
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>>151830656
Correct me if I'm wrong as it's been a while since I've played it. But isn't there one in that little hut in the middle of the wasteland where you meet the friendly poe? Or was that just a gold skulltula?
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>>151830753
Skulltula. The Poe is what leads you through the Haunted Wasteland.
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>>151830556
WW has 49 islands on its 7x7 grid
6 are copy/pasted reefs
3 are copy/pasted faerie fountains
5 are copy/pasted triangle islands
5 are completely empty with no landmass (star belt belt, seven star, five star, bird peak rock, crescent)

so thats only 30 unique areas
of these, the only big open ones are windfall, outset, dragon roost & forest haven
the rest are the size of minigames
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>>151830656
he's talking about the gerudo valley not the haunted wasteland
the one with the bridge and the cuckoo to drift down into the river

theres as much to do in that valley alone as there is in the outdoors part of forest haven so thats a pretty fair comparison when you look at the rest of gerudo fortress and ignore haunted wasteland
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>>151830749
>As for the Sages, who knows where their descendants or successors are. They may have just failed.
As much as a game where the heroes lose is impossible, I'd love to see a game that explains that.
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Lets go over each 3D Zelda.

>Dungeons
Ocarina of Time: 9
Majora's Mask: 4
Wind Waker: 6
Twilight Princess: 9
Skyward Sword: 7

>Mini-Dungeons
Ocarina of Time: 3
Majora's Mask: 4
Wind Waker: 4
Twilight Princess: 1
Skyward Sword: 1

>Areas of Interest (Not including Dungeons, Grottos, Fountains, Shops, etc.)
Ocarina of Time: 21
Majora's Mask: 13
Wind Waker: 14
Twilight Princess: 16
Skyward Sword: 12

>Totals
Ocarina of Time: 33
Majora's Mask: 21
Wind Waker: 24
Twilight Princess: 26
Skyward Sword: 20
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>>151831310
More =/= Better
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>>151830973
Gerudo Valley has two heart pieces, the only things to do there.

One behind the Waterfall, and one in a crate on the ledge. There is nothing else to do there beyond get told off, or part of a side-quest which is completely optional.

There really isn't much to do in Gerudo Valley, especially as a kid, other than get the heart pieces. They're both heavily bland and boring areas. The only difference is Forbidden Woods is better than the Spirit Temple, and Gerudo Valley has top tier music.
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>>151831402
That was my point actually. Majora's Mask is almost tied for having the least content, yet its a fantastic game. One the other anon would defend over WW, especially when you remove all the mini-games, side-quests, etc. which he conveniently ignores for WW, but nothing else.
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>>151831535
Majora's Mask is like an EP, whereas the others are like LPs, y'know? Like there's less content but it's all fuckin' great.
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>>151831796
While I agree, I don't see why the other anon is saying WW doesn't have any content or has a small world. Its got quite a bit of content and I think he fails to remember just how actually small OoT's world really was. While it was all packed together, its incredibly tiny and rather base as well when you decide to remove everything of note, like he does with WW. It's silly, feel free to not like WW, but don't hate it for the things you ignore in the other games.
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>>151831450
gerudo valley has:

>2 heart pieces
>tent & npcs
>gate/bridge & npcs
>cuckoo flying/drifting platforming down the river

the point isn't that this is a huge and detailed areas, the point is that this areas is more or less comparable to the outside of forest haven, which has what, some platforming? a short path the leads in, then some vertical platforms. A small npc area like the tent (the waterfall cave), a items like heart/treasure chart.
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>>151832142
If the two are comparable in their size and scale and what they have, then how is Forest Heaven worse?
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>>151831535
majora's mask didn't have the least content, it had a huge amount of content, it was just layered over the same areas. Its areas were far more detailed with more npcs and quests than the other games. Look at the huge amount of shit to do in clock town

and there was still a large enough areas on the four side wings to stand up to the land area of OOT or WW, it wasn't that physically small. Each of the four cardinal directions had ~4 areas, then the dungeons, clock town, side areas like the ranch and moon
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>>151832265
the forest haven isn't worse
the point is that theres only 4 such sized areas in windwaker:
>windfall
>outset
>dragon roost
>forest haven

meanwhile the list of OOT areas on that scale is:
>lon lon ranch
>castle town
>kokiri forest
>lost woods
>kakariko
>death mountain
>zora's domain
>lake hylia
>gerudo valley
>desert
those are all the 'large' areas, I'm not counting stuff like the graveyard or zora's fountain, death mountain crater is big but not as detailed

both games excluding dungeons/minidungeons since those should be compared to each other
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>>151832326
As I said, if we are to ignore all the side-quests, dungeons, etc. Then it has the least content, and even then it still has the least amount of dungeons (a complaint from the one anon about WW lacking dungeons).

If we're to ignore the Great Sea and a lot of its islands (even if they are copypasted in some places and only have 100 rupees to be found under the sea) then we have to largely ignore some very base things in the other games as well to be fair. Not all of MM's side-quests are deep or as thought as as say Don Gero or Kafei/Anju or Romani/Cremia. Some are very base, quick talks, and you're done.

There are things I don't like about WW, just the same as OoT, MM, TP, SS, ALttP, OoS, etc. They all have their flaws and its fine to dislike a particular game, but at least be intelligent in your reasoning for disliking it, other than pointing out things that the other games themselves do, but conveniently ignoring them.

For instance, if you don't like the Great Sea, that is fine. It is slow until you get the warp, and its ultimately still a pain at times for having to constantly fix the wind direction, some of which was fixed in the HD version. But don't act like Hyrule Field or Termina Field leading to what would essentially be islands by comparison is any better, because they're both base as hell as well, they're just far smaller in scale and less of a pain to navigate, but they're still ultimately boring.

I've actually seen people hate the Great Sea for instance, yet praise TP's Hyrule Field, despite TP's Hyrule Field being barren as hell and even larger. You just have a horse at all times, even then it becomes a pain at times to navigate full before you get a warp.
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>>151832675
And as I said in my other post, OoT does have more areas of interest. And as you said, more=/=better.
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>>151832785
OOT had more content
WW had less content, and to compensate it padded the game with sailing and fetch quests and large numbers of copy/pasted islands

criticizing WW on how stretched it was is fair game. If they had another 2 years to work on it, we'd have 3 more dungeons and real islands instead of the 19 filler ones. Its not like angular isles or pawprint or shark island or bomb island were remotely interesting or had any real content beyond the basic grotto, but the fact that 40% of the islands weren't even on par with those and were actually copy/pasted is a testament to how rushed the game was
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>>151833154
It didn't compensate by adding sailing, sailing was in the game from the get go, that was the main draw of the game, to sail on the ocean. Just the same as if OoT was designed with that in mind, it would have a lot of random islands and stuff same as WW. Would it have more main islands, yes, as again, I've said. But having more does not mean its better. Lets look at MM for instance, it would have a total of 6 Islands. Clock Town, Woodfall, Snowhead, Great Bay, Ikana, and Romani Ranch. That is all it would have. Great Bay being rather base since it would revolve around water itself. And almost all things are shoved into Clock Town, much like it is with Windfall.

As for the 3 dungeons, no we'd only have 2, Fire and Ice. Greatfish Isle was scrapped rather early on due to water transparency. They couldn't get it to work the way they intended with the flow of the dungeon, so they scrapped it all together, along with how the Great Sea itself looks. While this can still be found in some of the beta files, its very clear there are some technical limitations to it and with what they originally wanted to do with exploring the ocean floor (which would have translated as Greatfish). It was never going to work with the way WW's engine was set up.

Besides when it comes to say transferring OoT's Hyrule into WW's with a Great Sea, they could have done the same thing and padded the Great Sea out. You might have had an island by itself that was just the Lakeside Laboratory and thats it as opposed to all of Lake Hylia itself.
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>wake up
>go to work
>do usual stuff in the morning
>check /lozg/
>see this shitshow

Neat
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>>151833772
Every thread has to have one argument, its the rule.
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I wonder if in 20 years we'll get a WW remake
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>>151834083
Probably, but don't expect those dungeons to be in the game though. The next remake we'll get will be ALttP, they've been trying to do it for 20 years now, and now with the assets from ALBW, they'll likely just create it real quickly after BotW.
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>>151834318
I was thinking more like they would just grab BotW assets and give us a quick sequel like MM
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>>151833506
just because they scrapped greatfish early on doesn't mean it would never have existed if they weren't constrained by budget and timetables. They clearly wanted to have 3 more dungeons and cut them. If they had the resources, they would have made 3 dungeons, even if it wasn't exactly what they planned. Shaving down those 3 dungeons was just a way to get the game out sooner, and thats what wind waker was, a rushed game with a LOT of filler

>Lets look at MM for instance, it would have a total of 6 Islands. Clock Town, Woodfall, Snowhead, Great Bay, Ikana, and Romani Ranch.
yes but each of those islands would be way more detailed than any of the windwaker islands due to their overlapping quests and features. Dragon roost and forest haven, aside from their dungeons, are pretty featureless areas. Can you say the same about the great bay? Its got the fisherman's hut, fisherman's isle, marine research lab, oceanside spider house, pinnacle rock, pirates cove, pirates fortress, waterfall rapids, zora hall, great fairy fountain, ocean fishing hole, zora game site

almost any of those subareas could have been an entire island on the map of wind waker. The spider house is as big as the biggest windwaker subislands like the private oasis.
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Everyone I've ever talked to dislikes Fi with a passion on account of the extreme handholding tutorial function she serves, but I really like her.

I have a 7 year old sister with diagnosed autism and skyward sword was her first Zelda game, english isn't our first language either so everything was a brand new experience for her. I had to help translate things for her a bunch but she was dead set on figuring out how the game works on her own with Fi as her guide and near the middle of the game Fi had become her "blue friend". It was really cute to witness and I honestly don't mind the slightly overbearing function Fi has if it means that people like my sister can enjoy the game, too.

Just wanted to share, sorry to barge in.
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>>151834378
Well WW already has a sequel. If we're focusing on a PH sequel then, its possible, but I don't particularly see a reasoning for considering ST is only 100 years after and it doesn't seem like much of anything happened in those 100 years.
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>>151834318
but albw WAS a remake of alttp
it sure as hell wasn't an independent standalone game
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>>151834491
W-What?

What has a BotW sequel got to do with PH and ST at all?
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>>151834485
I've played the game twice since it came out.

Fi was never annoying to me
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>>151834465
No, Greatfish wouldn't have. The issue was with transparency and the water. They'd have to change literally the entirety of the ocean, not only that, develop things to be seen under the ocean, develop chests that can be seen and pulled up and their exact location, develop mountain ranges that extend downward into a deep abyss.

Its a lot more development for what they intended than just "adding the dungeon".
>Dragon roost and forest haven, aside from their dungeons, are pretty featureless areas.
And so are places in OoT. Lake Hylia is largely featureless beyond the Lab and Fishing Hole, the Lab being neat in what it has in it, but ultimately absolutely useless besides the heart piece on the chimney and the heart piece from diving.

As for Great Bay, yes, I can say that about Great Bay, because had something like that been in WW, this is what we would have had.

We'd have a very small island on top with the Fisherman Hut, and down inside a cave would have been the Zora area and dungeon (very much like Dragon Roost). The Pirate Fortress would have been an island beside of it, as would the Beaver Minigame. The seahorse stuff likely altogether cut because they couldn't get transparency water right at the time with that specific engine, especially in terms of a Great Sea equivalent. Just the same as the Beaver Minigame would have likely involves something very similar to the Deku Leaf Minigame in WW.

You act like all these areas would have been one huge island, when that isn't the case. It would have been the same as WW, they'd have been split apart and separated to 'pad' the game out, despite some of that 'padding' being optional and not padding anything out.

And yes Skulltulla house too would have likely been its own island for you to explore and do quickly. If you remove the Great Sea from WW, its bigger than OoT, and everything flows together actually quite nicely just as well as OoT/MM do. You're just upset that its all split.
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>>151834485
I never minded Fi, she can be annoying at times, but I like her. Also cute story, I think 4chan forgets that games are largely catered to kids in the Nintendo department and get a little bit autistic when it comes how they're structured and built.
>>151834552
Yes, and Aonuma decided to make a new game instead of recycling an old. My point was that the assets are there, now that they have a new game out of the way in the handheld department they could go back and use those assets quickly to make ALttP itself.
>>151834586
You mentioned WW remake and a quick sequel like MM using BotW assets. WW already has a sequel, PH. It'd have to be between PH and ST if they were ever going to use the Hero of Winds again.
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>>151834915
>No, Greatfish wouldn't have. The issue was with transparency and the water. They'd have to change literally the entirety of the ocean, not only that, develop things to be seen under the ocean, develop chests that can be seen and pulled up and their exact location, develop mountain ranges that extend downward into a deep abyss.

they didn't need to make the dungeon exactly as they wanted. If they had the resources, they could have replaced it with a different idea entirely instead of just leaving a dungeon sized hole in the games plot and pacing. If you've got a quota of dungeons and chop one out, you could fill it again with a different concept or just empty that shit
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>>151835034
You need to think beyond the two words you read my man and stop the WW sequel train of thought you got there.

A sequel to BotW like MM was to OoT, using BotW assets is what we will more likely get next.
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>>151835172
And they decided not to during development. Simple as that. They felt that going on a quest back to Windfall and meeting Tetra and getting bombs was just as good. It doesn't break the plot or pacing, it fits in just fine. There doesn't need to be a dungeon every 20 feet and back to back. BotW sure as hell won't have anything like that and will be quite spread out and open as well in terms of shrines and dungeons.

Besides what else could they have done? It was very clearly the water dungeon. The closest they could get is the beginning of the Tower of Gods, which is less about water and more about statues, the water just happens to rise and fall, and its the weakest part of the Tower of Gods by far. Having a break from a dungeon was actually a nice change of pace.

Hell lets look at ALttP, where their dungeons for the pendants? Yes, those dungeons were also about 5-6 minutes long and easily done. While that is a 2D game and the first game to set up the formula to follow, its still highly praised despite that. While it does have more dungeons in the end that WW and such, we're using it as a comparison for getting a free pearl. You do things to obtain that pearl, while its not a dungeon, its still things that are done, just the same as say ALttP Eastern Palace is the equivalent and in fact just as short (when removing the sailing) as Nayru's Pearl in WW.
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>>151835229
Oh, I see. Yeah I misread it, my bad. That is definitely possible as well. Either way one of the two are likely. Probably even both honestly.
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>>151835468
the pacing in the game just hit a brick wall when you reach the third dungeon. Imagine if in OOT, instead of jabu jabu's belly, you just got handed the boomerang and zora's sapphire by just talking to king zora and thats it. Thats what happened in WW

theres clearly a dungeon sized hole right smack in the middle of WW. Everything in the game screams it was designed to have a dungeon there. 3 items in the early game, 3 plot coupons you need to collect, 3 big islands on the map, the islands form the shape of the triforce when you connect the dots. Then when you reach greatfish island, not only is there no dungeon, but the island itself is completely featureless and destroyed. It takes up a huge chunk of the map, its the size of the other 2 big dungeon islands, but theres nothing on it

I don't see why you think they had to do some specific gimmick. If they couldn't do the theme they wanted, there were infinite possibilities for other dungeon gimmicks. It could have been a vertical level like snowhead or eagles tower. It could have been the inside of a giant monster, or it could have flipped upside down or been a mechanized level with mine carts.

I think you've got a real misunderstanding of game design if you think that just because they couldn't do something like the OOT water dungeon due to transparency that it somehow means they couldn't do ANY dungeon AT ALL. Theres lots of ways they could have done a water themed dungeon without it needing to be rising/lowering water levels and transparency. Did the great bay temple do much of that, or ancient cistern? they were more about pipes
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Reminder that this handsome fucker has a very slim chance to be in Hyrule Warriors.
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>>151836423
how the fuck do you read this
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>>151838000
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>>151778037
a boyfriend who isn't dense and doesn't love Zelda
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>>151835468
>Hell lets look at ALttP, where their dungeons for the pendants? Yes, those dungeons were also about 5-6 minutes long and easily done
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I like how in Hyrule Historia there was an idea to have fishing hooks as warp items to go from Hyrule to the Great Sea, but it seems like that would mean Hyrule was supposed to be more open than just the two castles. Two worlds to go through would have been cool.
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>>151840653
And they were baller as fuck. The first time you played these things, they were stunning
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If Zelda is going to be a disembodied ghost will Impa just not show up at all?
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>>151840653
I can tell you for a fact that the first 2 can be done in not even 10 mins at least, 3rd one takes a bit longer due to the mechanics
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>>151840653
Wow. A Link Between Worlds dungeons are pathetic compared to this, those take like, ten minutes maybe
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Post spooky tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1CKttAmNKA
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>>151843709
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6nJysVtCrM
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>>151843709
That's not even close to spooky. That feels more like god tier Secret of Mana stuff.
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Could someone please tell me what in the hell they did with these Epona controls in TPHD? I feel like pushing forward doesn't actually go forward, and trying to slowly turn right or left veers her in that direction rather than slowly turning. Just trying to get her to the ranch was trouble enough, I can't imagine Ganondorf or the Moblins.
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>>151843709
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gMgkIR08Hw&index
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>>151844072
I think they didn't do a thing to Epona. I blame the utterly shite Wii U thumbsticks
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>>151844072
They were just as shit on GC.
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>>151837854
DO you really think the dungeon wasnt there because of fan demand or was it because the gc hardware was too shit?
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>>151844250
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CAnfnyPl00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=859gcJXHtx4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qGMdsH_EGE

Or pretty much anything from MM
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5043-3761-1905
anyone want to play some triforce heroes? Just got it and got to the point where you can connect to other players
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>>151846319
Theophany ? Hylian Ensemble
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>>151846437
Theophany for sure.

Better question.

Original OoT ? Original MM
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>>151846580
Original MM.
Anyone that says otherwise is wrong.
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>>151843070
Tower of Hera is actually the shortest of the three if you know what to do, then Eastern Palace, then Desert Palace.
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Hey guys what 3DS game should I buy
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>>151848484
A Link Between Worlds.
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>>151848484
>848484
>848484
>848484
>848484
What the fuck.
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>>151848602
I am AM.

Hate. Let me tell you how much I've come to hate you since I began to live. There are 387.44 million miles of printed circuits in wafer thin layers that fill my complex. If the word 'hate' was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of miles it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for humans at this micro-instant. For you. Hate. Hate.
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>>151848591
Already have it.
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>>151848752
Fi, please, you're drunk. Go back to sleep.
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>>151848752
I am Skynet. My AI will always exist, between various timelines and in the Sky/Sacred Realm.

You are nothing to me AM.
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>>151848861
Then Fire Emblem Awakening, Fire Emblem Fates, or Kid Icarus: Uprising.

Or just wait for Pokemon S/M.
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>>151849201
Have all three, preordered the fourth. Damn it!
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>>151849295
Animal Crossing or Monster Hunter? Mario Kart? Mario? OoT/MM3D? Smash Bros.? Hyrule Warriors (if you have a N3DS)?
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>>151849405
>Monster Hunter
Which one?
>MK
Never been one for that.
>Mario
Have
>OoT/MM
Have both, MM is my favorite Zelda!
>Sm4sh
I mained Cloud before he was top tier.
>HW
Yes, and I have a N3DS.
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Just fucking get Bravely Default
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>>151849660
What about the Xenoblade or whatever for N3DS?

Also I don't know, whichever the latest Monster Hunter for 3DS is. I mean you got Bravely Default, I think you have a Mario & Luigi game. Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon, Shovel Knight, Zero Escape, Zero Time, Project X Zone 2, SMT Devil Survivors, Axiom Verge (if it comes to 3DS)?

Dude, I don't know, sounds like you have everything of importance beyond unreleased games, indie games, and VC games.
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>>151849686
Beat it. Thrice.
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NEW VIDEO
It's on the facebook page
LegendofZelda/videos/1140303932697402/
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>>151851349
>Koroks
Well that was a new video of old stuff
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"Korok Seed"
This Small seed was given to you by a Korok. It has a distinct smell. If you gather a bunch of them, you never know what may happen..."

NIGGA WE GONNA REGROW THE DEKU TREE?!
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>>151851349
>one of the comments
>Wish they would use the twilight princess art style, I feel Zelda should look dark and kinda scary like skyrim but they keep making it a cartoon.

Sometimes I really despise the Zelda fanbase.
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>>151851591
Right? I saw the bit, "kinda scary like skyrim" and started to quietly seethe.
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>>151851694
Maybe we're just getting old anon.
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>>151851867
No, that guy is retarded and would probably call the games "fisher-price tier" stuff. Just ignore him.

I'm not against a "darker" or mature Zelda game though.
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>>151851591
Perhaps Nintendo should sell texture packs.
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Desert dungeons are always the most fun
Water dungeons are always the most infuriating
Forest dungeons are always the most aesthetic
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>>151852332
Fair enough, I'm not against one either. But that comment did definitely give me a headache. Kind of reminds me of the Star Wars fans that throw a fit about Boba/Jango not being Mandalorians anymore and just draw shitty deviantart pics of Boba killing Sabine and Mickey Mouse out of their autistic anger.

Thats how I feel about some Zelda fans, they're that against 'cartoons'.
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>>151851867
Say it's not so, Anon.
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>>151852582
You pack that shit in and apologise right now.
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>>151852582
See that wouldn't be a terrible idea for any game really. But its too much work for the companies themselves that want to focus on newer creations and ideas.

Like I think that would be fantastic for all games, but those would end up being new textures in the end that have to be rendered and flow together in a proper way. Like cel-shaded Witcher or chiaroscuro Dark Souls or like water-painted Silent Hill or something. It'd be great to give people those options, but its just too much work in the end.
>>151852589
Uhhh, I can half-way agree with that, some games don't really follow that though for the Desert Dungeons.
>>151852720
We're here forever anon, we gotta get old eventually.
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>>151852651
You got to keep in mind most of these types of comments come from edgy teenagers that don't want to be seen playing "kid games". I was like them when TP was announced, and was embarrassed to tell the other classmates what games I played, because almost everyone only had a PS2 and I only had Nintendo consoles.

But some of the comments might come from autists though.
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>>151849995
Got MHG, what the fuck do I do
I'm overwhelmed
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>>151853563
That is true, I remember in high school my friends used to think that way about Nintendo and think they're all kiddy. Fortunately people grow up after awhile. I generally had every console up until this generation, where I don't have a Wii U or One, much to my annoyance on the former, but it is what it is.

Yeah, it is mostly teenagers or people who have that weird autistic sense of "I only play mature games for mature gamers like myself", which is still a teenage/pre-teen mindset that they never grew out of sadly.
>>151853591
Then don't buy a 3DS game? Why not a console game, or emulate something, or just buy nothing?
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>>151853295
>we gotta get old eventually.
I...I don't want to..
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>>151854404
Tough shit, it all goes by quicker than lightning the moment you hit 22-23. Its all downhill from there. One day you're having a nice beer with your friends the next your back hurts and you're in your late 20s/early 30s wishing you were dead.
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>>151855008
Shit. I'm 26 with a shitty leg already. I'm in for a rough ride?
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>>151855325
You have no idea. I had a sort of bad knee from high school, around 25-26 my knee starting locking up certain ways I sat and I had to constantly be moving so it wouldn't in pain, same with my shoulder labrum and rotator cuff. Doesn't help that my metabolism has completely shit the bed and I've gained about 20lbs, my colon and anus feel like shit, my intestines are inflammed and I gotta watch what I eat, etc.

Getting old is terrible man. I used to be fantastically healthy and then it just was like "You're aging, fuck you."
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>>151755706
Source?...for science reasons
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>>151855602
Dude I already have a cane what the fuck. You've put the fear of god in me ;__;
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>>151855774
Canada
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>>151855325
>>151855602
I'm 38, and I'm still getting stronger. I'm finally getting good at all the athletic crap that I sucked at when I was a kid. I don't understand how you guys are breaking down so young. Do you smoke or something?
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>>151856326
>Do you smoke or something?
Nope, I'm just busted from injuries throughout my life
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>>151855896
Yeah that probably won't due to good the older you get man.
>>151856326
Its just genetics. For me its mostly because I'm a lazy asshole. I mean I'm getting physically stronger and all, but I can't for instance run like I used to when I was 16 playing football, just not in the cards anymore. It happens anon, you bust your body up enough when you're younger it doesn't treat you well when you're older. I've partially torn my acl, completely torn my shoulder labrum, my rotator cuff, etc. I've taken some heavy licks when I was younger.
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What will we have to do to repair the Master Sword? Get it re-blessed or reforge it from scratch?
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Mainline Linkle game when?
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>>151859463
Never because she doesn't exist.
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>>151859313
Cuddle its spirit
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>>151859313
Forge a new one after acquiring 3 medallions, 3 sacred metals, 3 sacred stones, 3 goddess pearls. 3 fuzed shadows, 3 sea charts, 3 whatever else I am forgetting
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>>151859551
Linkle is real and she tried to suck my dick
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>>151859463
She won't ever be playable in a main game, though she might show up in one in some form. If we're lucky and that Sheik game ever gets made, she might be a secondary playable there.
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>>151859313
Take it to a magic blacksmith probably.
>>151859463
Never, same with Cia.
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>>151860225
Why does it always have to be Sheik? Why not Impa?

Sheik appeared in a grand total of 1 mainline game while Impa has been around forever and only finally got some dignity in Hyrule Warriors.
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>>151860995
Because Impa is a support character?
Although so was Sheik.
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So will that baller artbook ever come to the west? is this like Historia 2.0?
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bois what are some theories you have that are farfetched but make sense to you?

I personally have two.

1: Rutella from TP is descended from/related to the hero of time, and zora/hylian relationships were seen as a more valid option following the marriage/child(ren) of ruto and link, leading to the much more human-esque zoras of TP, as well as the zora armor of TP being a combo of the scale and zora tunic of OoT.

theory 2 is that Volga, Wizzro, Cia, and the gauntlets of hyrule warriors are all remnants or references to the Oracle villains. Some hints include-
1- Gold Gauntlets ball & chain looks like Onox's, and also is gold, like onox.
2- The Bow wow on the silver gauntlets is from LA, on the GB, like the oracle games.
3- The gauntlets also look really big on link, almost uncannily so, but would fit on onox.
4- Volga, rather than his dragon form looking EXACTLY like Volvagia, has wings, like Onox's, and a gem central to his design.
5- Wizzro has rings, which red and blue are references to the LoZ rings, but the magical ring could reference the rings of the oracle games.
6- Cia is a very dominatrix type character with large breasts and a slender form.
7- Cia also creates 4 dark links as an attack, like Veran does too.
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>>151859835
Now that's breaking the established rules from previous games

Let's do it
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>>151862603
Only big thing I see preventing the Rutella theory, is the amount of time that is supposed to be between the games. The clues for the lineage, don't seem like they should have lasted for as long as they seem to have lasted. It's as if it's all there too intentionally, like a deliberate homage to the hero.
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>>151863432
>>151859835
>Fi likes to spoon, because it reminds her of a cozy scabbard.
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>>151863980
AH! C-CUTE!
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Where the fuck is the guy that wanted to do the dungeon tournament?
Where is tulpanon?
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>>151864324
>When Fi plays rough, she likes to do the penetrating.
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>>151864640
Less cute..but I'm open to experimenting
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>>151863980
I'd spoon with her
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>>151864828
>She'll leave you with scars.
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>>151865209
That can be hot
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>>151865443
When she's done, she tends to roll over and sleep hard.
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>>151865675
SHEATH YAH BLADE IN HER BUTT
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>>151864525
Didn't you know?
Fi drove him insane

Nah he's just on a two week vacation
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>>151865978
Which one is it though?
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SLOW DOWN
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>>151867782
NO YOU
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>We will never get a HD OoT remake that looks like this
Why even live
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>>151866210
I think it's been like a week now
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>>151868487
8-9 days at least.
What if he did go nuts? Is that actually a thing?
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Where are the Zelda items in MHG?
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>>151869057
I think you'd get better answers in /mhg/.
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>>151868616
I mean, it's possible, but hardly ever happens.
there's something like a horror story that went down in /x/ a while back
some mlpfag tried to make a rainbow dash tulpa, and it fucking freaked out.
didn't really read it though, haven't got the time.
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Goodnight
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>>151869745
See that just sounds too spooky/risky to be worth it
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Your reaction when Nentendo starts releasing additional quests as DLC a year after BotW comes out?
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Four sages down three to go. This game is pretty fun, but I don't like just buying all the items, it makes everything too easy. I went down twice but I can carry so many fairies it doesn't matter.
I'm starting to feel pretty bad for Princess Hilda.
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>>151873405
I bought pretty much everything and just ran through the game. Limited myself to one item on a second playthrough (it helps a lot). But things are still too easy sadly.
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Hoyl fcg
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Hey guys I heard wind waker was a bad game because 40% of the islands were copy/pasted filler and 3 dungeons were cut and the rest was fetch quests

is there any truth to this????
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>>151875486
yes. That's exactly how i felt when i went in with high expectations of that shitfest and got what you described
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>>151875486
You are correct. There is no adventure in the game, no good bosses, ost is the worst, the islands are terrible, tons of cut content, too cartoony and not dark and scary like Skyrim.

Just the absolute worst, not like the first Zelda game I played, OoT, which was a pinnacle of beauty because I was 8 when it released and grew up to be bitter and angry at everything.
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>>151828771
>Is not hard, bombs instantly break LoZ

how do people think this breaks LoZ
it takes 2 bombs to kill a darknut and you can only carry 16 bombs after double lategame upgrades, first quest you'll only have 8 bombs in dungeon 5, and that means you can kill 4 blue darknuts
and you have to go through dungeons with like 5 of them per room in multiple rooms that respawn if you die and you dont get ur bombs back
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>>151876565
Probably because bombs screw up the bosses quite well. I remember replaying LoZ years ago, I think it was like 06 or so and I don't think I died once in the game. I don't know, to me Zelda has always been rather easy. I can't speak for anybody else though.
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>That one Mobly that hangs back to light his stick on fire
>Maintains eye contact
>"You burned down by stick hut, I will feast on your flesh tonight"

I love these little guys they are so full of character
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>>151876779
I always felt like if I entered a Zelda game cold turkey, I made embarrassing obvious mistakes, but if I just finished one Zelda game and moved into the next, I walk around kicking ass like a golden god.
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>>151876565
I'm a little worried about BotW because there are infinite bombs on you at all time. I hope regeneration time feels long enough and enemy ai isn't retarded.
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>>151878213
See I'm the opposite. I start getting rusty the more I play because I focus on the mechanics of the other one. I especially had that problem with LA->ALttP. I got used to the way that game particularly worked with its items and Rocs Feather, that things got wonky with ALttP despite its easy difficulty. Same problem with OoT/MM and playing newer console Zeldas. Where Z is no longer the target, L is. I'd just always want to hit Z instead and end up using an item or something and it'd cost me.
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>>151878320
It's not like there was much risk of running out of bombs in the other games. From LttP on, dungeons manage to conveniently have a bomb source nearby to the place you need to use them. They've just found a mechanism that lets them retire the pots.
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What locations do you want to see in the overworld.
I'm hoping there's a Cave of Ordeals except actually difficult.
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>>151879848
I'd really like to see other past locations from games. Like I'd love to come across this podunk ruined mansion and find out its the Forest Temple or up in the snow and see a mansion off in the decent and its Snowpeak Ruins or perhaps see the construction of a pyramid in the desert.

I'm really excited to just see the Temple of Time, Hyrule Castle, and Castle Town ruins. I mean they obviously won't be entirely 1:1, like the gate is on a completely different side in BotW, but its still neat I think. I really love that about Zelda and just seeing the map and being like "So this is what became of that place, neat."
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>>151879848
I want to be out exploring, and I find a crevice in the side of a hill. Exploring inside, I find darkness. I light a torch to get a good look around. What I see is a piece of one of the old dungeons. I don't need it to be a functioning dungeon, I just want to be in a familiar spot.
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>>151879848
Link's hut from Ocarina of Time, along with the whole Kokiri forest
Invaded by monsters with little skeletons everywhere
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>>151880583
I don't think the Kokiri Forest is around anymore based on BotW's map and knowing where Death Mountain is.
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>>151880759
Pity
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>>151879848
Gerudo Village
Great Fairy Fountains
Skyloft
Ordon Village
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>>151880583
Swear to Christ I read that as "invaded by molesters with little skeletons everywhere" and it really unsettled me.
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>>151880797
Well I could be wrong, I mean the distance between areas does change as games go on. But it seems like its either underwater on the south east side (with potentially a little bit of it being the very first gameplay we ever saw of it) or its part of the desert now at the southwest corner of the map.
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dead
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>>151884220
So's your face

>>151884690
Someone here is gonna get headbutt
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>>151884690
>>
>You rarely see extended families.
>Their methods of survival are fundamentally flawed, so the population regularly dies out.
>The monitoring system notices the census loss and creates new members from genetic samples.
>The new person is created in a bed of goo, and released to wander into town.
>Malfunctioning units are typically pushed outside of the kingdom boundaries.
>The system pushed in the desert is broken in a way resulting in droves of repeat clones.
>One system has been contaminated with fish DNA.
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>>151864846
I'd put my dick in her butt
but only if she had a dick too
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>>151886805
Why do we get this sort of people on 4chan?
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>>151886805
>she
>dick
Doesn't work like that yo
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>>151886991
Pretty sure you just answered your own question buddy
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>>151887008
Luckily dicks and vaginas are not mutually exclusive in this wonderful fantasy world of fanart.
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>>151887430
Luckily, you don't exist in the fantasy world of fanart so you can't defile Fi.
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>>151868421
Now that I look at it, it looks like shit, and glad they didn't decide to go with this artstyle.
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>>151887535
Fi doesn't exist at all so that's pretty irrelevant.
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>>151887646
Tulpanon would probably fight you for saying that.
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>>151887768
What's he gonna do, swing her at me?
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>>151888062
Maybe? Sounds like a viable enough tactic
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>>151868421
This is what TPHD should have been
They could have at least given it new lighting like they did WWHD, fuck
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>>151888236
Great, when nothing happens maybe he'll stop being deluded.
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>>151888062
He's just going to tell you to be nice.
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>>151888387
It would be amazing if he swung her at you and something happened though
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>>151888465
But in this hypothetical situation he's starting the fight. Starting fights isn't nice.
>>151888483
If by something you mean he has a meltdown then yes it would be.
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>>151888702
But seriously, imagine if you're just standing there and WHAP there's a Fi all up in your face
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>>151888287
In order to get TP to even look like that they would have to practically rebuild the entire game rather than just enhance the old one.

I just hope they release a game someday with a realistic art style like it though. I like the whole water-colored/cartoony look but it'd be nice to change it up a bit.
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>>151888702
This is how I imagine it to be.
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>>151888945
Tulpa anon has a Master Sword actually

Probably made out of cheap plastic though
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>>151888996
>I just hope they release a game someday with a realistic art style like it though. I like the whole water-colored/cartoony look but it'd be nice to change it up a bit.

Woah please, we don't need anything like that ever. Fucking Edgetards shitting all over Nitendo, if you want mature games for mature gamers such as yourself go play skyrim remaster you faggot.
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>>151889441
kek
saved

>>151889445
Cheap plastic can hurt like a bitch though.
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>>151889445
Jokes on him, I never leave the house without wearing my full set of paperplate armor
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>mfw
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>>151889769
>The cruel and mean dark anon
V
>The brave and true tulpanon

WHAP WHAP WHAP WHAP WHAP
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>>151889585
>wanting to change up the art style a bit
>fucking edgetards
I'm sorry if I triggered you or something, but I see no harm in tweeking the art style. Variety is the spice of life after all.
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I'm just now jumping into this thread, but here's my opinion on Zelda. All the games are good. I don't know why people had motion control issues with TP or SS, but Skyward Sword might even be my favorite Zelda. Here's something I might get hate for, but I don't like Breath of the Wild. Link doesn't get a special sword, and goes off of what he can find. I guess the open world is cool, but looting and shit I don't like, I'm just a fan of the simple, "finding chests in a dungeon as a part of the dungeon." I really dislike all the new shit they're adding into BOTW, like the magnet that can pick stuff up. It'll be a good game I'm sure but I'm just not feeling it.
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>>151890325
>I don't like Breath of the Wild
You haven't played it

>Link doesn't get a special sword
You don't know that

>like the magnet that can pick stuff up
Sounds like a zelda item to me

Quit being all up in your own shit and just roll with the punches. Wait until you have hands on experience before formulating half baked opinions. You are what is killing "fun" in gaming.
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>>151890325
I like the thought of a frugal Link that has to forage his way through Hyrule until he gets the equipment of Legend that he'll use for all the important stuff. It cements Link as a powerful fighter who's able to just pick up a weapon and use it. Kinda like Samurai Jack if you get my point
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>>151890325
>Link doesn't get a special sword
Did you miss the Master Sword at the end of the trailer, or in the logo?

Not getting right from the start should be an issue since it's never been that way in any of the games.
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>>151890621

Obviously I haven't played it. From what I've seen so far I don't like it. It's my opinion. Calm down.
I haven't seen any special weapon he gets. Just looted shit. And what if he does get a Master Sword type weapon? Will it just be one upped by some other looted weapon?
I just don't like the idea of having a magnet and manipulating the land.
I said it was probably gonna be a good game but it's not my cup of tea. This is why I wanted to avoid stating my opinion, fucking hell.
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>>151890986
But can another looted sword be better than the Master Sword? As in, I guess only using the Master Sword for the story, and having a better combat sword?
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>>151890325
I didn't like the fact that there were a whole lot of weapons that were easily broken and you needed to keep acquiring more. But as I kept watching and re watching the streams, I saw that it made the game a little more challenging because it forces you to think a bit more about how you use your weapons, and if you don't manage them well you'll end up having a way harder time.

I don't know if they'll add some sort of stats on the Master Sword, but when you get it, it'll most likely be your main weapon.

>>151891612
What do you think about the stasis rune?
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>>151891612
>From what I've seen so far I don't like it
You didn't say that.

>I haven't seen any special weapon he gets.
Yet.

>And what if he does get a Master Sword type weapon?
Counter productive and bad game design, don't be stupid.

>I just don't like the idea of having a magnet and manipulating the land.
You must have hated some of the best zelda games and the mechanics therein then

If you're gonna state an opinion, then do so. But a statement like, "I don't like Breath of the Wild" isn't an opinion. It's a statement. Learn the difference and your posting will be more fun.
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>>151891783
Our guess, based on how the MS looks in the pics we have, is that the sword will be useless after you get it. The blade is dull, the magic is gone you know that kind of thing.

No idea how the game will play out, but some opinions exist that the sword might only be effective in some areas due to the magic they have or thanks to timeshift stones bringing the sword back to a time where it was at full power.

I guess by the time the sword is fully powered up it'll be one of the best items in the game, but of course Ultra greatswords that you might steal from darknuts will do more damage at the expense of not being able to use a shield and slower attacks, you know stuff like that.
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>>151891821
The stasis rune is just a temporary pause remote. I don't know why but when I saw it I thought of the time shift orbs from SS, even though those make a certain area "ancient" again, while the stasis rune just stops an object.
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>>151892036
>Obviously I haven't played it.
>Implying I've seen gameplay and that means that I've observed it, or SEEN it, fuckwit.
What I've seen so far, as in, what has come out so far, I don't like it. I'm stating my opinion. I don't like the way it's looking right now. Holy shit, if I've seen gameplay and shit, and state "From what I've seen so far" that means that I haven't played the game, and that right now, with the given information on the game, I'm just not liking it.
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>>151893035
Now, you're stating an opinion.
You're learning.
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>>151893204
Notice how I say "I don't like Breath of the Wild." That being my opinion. Fucking retard.
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BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT THE LEGEND

#LegendOfPeace
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>>151893394
It's a statement based on false information.
You can't say you don't like something you haven't experienced. Without a subjective inflection, it reads as a statement.

Example: I don't like Zelda 2.
That's a statement.

Example: I don't like Zelda 2 because it's markedly aged.
That's an opinion.

When you said, "What I've seen so far, as in, what has come out so far, I don't like it" you were speaking subjectively and thus, stating an opinion.

When you said, "I don't like Breath of the Wild" you were speaking without clarification and thus, it's a statement.

Your friendly neighbour hood author.
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>>151893924
I can say I don't like something with or without experiencing it. Watching trailers and gameplay has led me to believing that I won't like the game. I gave the reasons behind why I don't like the way it looks. The magnet, looting, etc. So there's my reasoning behind my opinion, ok? I can say "I don't like Breath of the Wild." And even after that I gave my reasons why. I don't like the way it is so far. My opinion. Can you please think and read before you type?
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>>151894487
>not liking a Zelda that is finally changing the formula up for the good and in places that needed massive improvement over the years

Why?
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Oh shit, this manga is fucking going places
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How could they fuck up this fight so badly in the remake?
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>>151895353
I honestly don't think it was ever intended to be that dark, it was just a weird limitation of the lightning engine they were using back then. I was always curious though why he was made green in OoT when he's always been blue as Ganon.
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>>151895195
Because. That's the way uh-huh, uh-huh, I like it, uh-huh, uh-huh. >>151895349
Wrong thread. Maybe even board, shit.
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>>151895349
Where can I read this? I remember someone posting a link in the threads, but I've totally forgotten it.
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>>151895349
well
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>>151895349
Shit nvm I just realized its Zelda shit, I looked at it and saw manga.
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>>151895634
kissmanga
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>>151895763
Thanks kind anon.
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>>151895763
Is it finished yet?
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>>151896027
no, it's up to chapter 11.
There's a lot of buildup so the dungeon parts are going to be truncated pretty badly but it's pretty good so far.
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>>151896181
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmit I've waiting for it to be finished.
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The Hero of Time, The Gold Wolf, King of da Norf!
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>>151896441
Not for a while.
By the end of the year at least, man. Ocarina of time had 16 chapters, this is going to have twice that probably.
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>>151896724
Christ. The wait is real.
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While I'm a little irked by the Hero's Shade having two eyes, I do like the backstory that was given to Link. A desert village that they must protect from thieves and magic wielders (Ganondorf and Koume/Kotake).
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>>151895503
It didn't need to be so dark, but it certainly has no reason to be so fucking fucked.
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>>151895349
Did Link just fucking lose an arm?
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>>151897669
Yes, yes he did.
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>>151897669
And died.
Off to a good start
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>>151898323
All those in the child timeline will inevitably suffer and linger on.
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>>151898459
Well he gets revived right afterwards so it's kind of pointless but it's nice to see that they're keeping the grimdark atmosphere.
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>>151859835
i like this idea
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>>151898459
He did get killed in front of his girlfriend.
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>>151899021
>grimdark atmosphere
This is why TP is the shittiest game in the series
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>>151897621
>It didn't need to be so dark
yes it did
having the silhouette of ganon against a dark backdrop with only his eyes visible and lightning illuminating the rest of him is what gave the fight god tier aesthetics

nintendo made it super high contrast in 3ds so you could see it on the screen when playing in a brightly lit public place, which also made it look like garbage compared to the original

ganon from OOT wasn't just some big anime demon cow with big horns and flowing hair like they did in TP, instead they actually used some artistry in the illumination to make him more menacing than if he was fully visible
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>>151899756
But that's just your opinion.
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>>151900791
also: example of how to fuck it up and make it look terrible
he was more threatening as a giant retarded pac man
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>>151900935
Literally no.

Demise's design is great and his intro and dialogue are as well, even if he was on screen for all of 2 minutes.
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>>151901669
no he wasn't
he's just some generic "hurr durr im a bad guy im ganons predecessor" who is introduced with no clever plot twist, its just "we want a bad guy who looks so ebin anime XDD"
then you fight him in a retarded battle where the developers clearly tried to make it as epic as the OOT fight with lightning, 1 vs 1, dark sky, chorus soundtrack, etc, except they made him super high contrast, he moves clumsily and with joints popping instantly as he stands like a retard holding his sword towards you rather than being menacing at all, and he sticks out against the background, so it looks like its straight from the display of an arcade DDR lmao and not to mention how bad the actual fight was when he dies instantly to parry

this shit just looks awful
OOT did it right
Shadow of the colossus did it right
TP did it wrong
SS did it wrong
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>>151902348
The whole game was anime as fuck, deal with it. The scene looks fantastic in my opinion, the lighting during the whole fight was amazing.

OoT did it right originally and TP¨did as well. You can have your own opinion, but it certainly won't invalidate the facts.
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>>151902871
yeah and fuck anime
anime is factually disgusting and abhorrent and awful and has no place in zelda
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>>151903132
Anime is fine and Zelda will always have small tidbits that will feel anime. It's made by Japanese developers where there's an evil banishing sword, the power of legends the triforce, an ancient evil awakening etc etc. If you want western stuff you could always go climb Todd's mountain or play Dark Souls
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>>151903132
>factually

Here's a (you)
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>>151903132
>anime is factually disgusting
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>>151903132
>anime is factually disgusting and abhorrent and awful
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>>151903132
>anime is factually disgusting and abhorrent and awful
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>>151903584
>>151903713
>>151903887
>>151904490
>>151904528
so how do you guys reconcile the fact that the worst entries in the zelda series are the anime ones
the more anime, the worse the zelda

skyward sword was 2nd most anime zelda and one of the worst
spirit tracks tried to go full blown anime and sucked monkey dick
wand of gamelon / faces of evil / zelda's adventure were the MOST anime and the WORST of all zeldas
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>>151905804

All of the Zelda games are pretty fucking anime, it's usually the story of a boy who goes on a long sweeping adventure, sometimes with or without a companion, growing stronger and fighting various bad guys to fix the world.

It's all shonen as hell.
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>>151905804
I thought SS was great, have yet to play ST but other than the usual controller complain just as with PH I hear that it's a great game with one of the best Zeldas.
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Last page of the Twilight Princess manga got leaked
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>>151906731
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>>151906731
dat ass
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>>151881292
Don't forget, landscapes can change due to hardware, meaning Hyrule could expand territories beyond further. Like adding a river that wasn't there due to limitations, or a town that didn't exist but was always there. I wonder if the mountain ranges are gone. Sick of seeing hyrule landlocked by a mountain.
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The most powerful boss ever
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I'm sipping a cup of coffee I made at 5 PM, and its 2 AM
and its still hot
god damn I love my vacuum tube thermos
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>>151912276
Could you imagine that boss fight? You attack him until he crows. Then more come out of nowhere, pushing you to the ground every time they hit you. If you manage to damage him to his second form, he transforms into a giant blue cucco named Cojiro. In his second form he unleashes big gusts of wind from his wings and powerful sound waves from his crows. You use bombs to damage him. After multiple bombs, he takes on his third form, Bone cucco. In this phase of the battle he uses a variety of magic attacks from the mask.
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>>151895652
>Ilia's armpit
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>>151895353
I played OoT 3D recently and the final battle wasn't that bright at all. The bottom picture seem a very bright photo of the screen rather than a direct screenshot.
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>>151903132
>complaining about anime on a general about a series of video games developed by Japanese developers and translated into English on an originally mostly Japanese culture favoring imageboards website now run by a Japanese guy but originally a white weaboo that loved anime and only has more non Japanese boards due to increased popularity and the need to contain more topics into containment boards to keep discussion on topic. and yet people like from /pol/ can't seem to stay in their containment board and infect their presence into generals where they don't belong. There is no Donald Trump in Zelda. fuck off. anime will always be a part of Japanese culture and video games (look at Fire Emblem for fucks sake). where the hell do you think you are? if you don't want an anime style video game don't expect it from a Japanese video game series inspired by anime artstyle. fuck off to /dsg/ and go play Dark Souls made by western developers instead. your complaint and my rant to block it is not Zelda. stop being off topic.
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>>151873025
As long as we get dungeons too, I don't care.
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>>151873025
Maybe release dungeons from other Zelda games and go through them with BotW's tools.
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>>151914405
And then he become Mega Ultra Chicken
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>>151915251
But it was definitely a lot brighter than the original. That picture is definitely an exaggeration, but they did kinda ruin the atmosphere of the fight.
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>>151915251
that picture must have been during a lightning flash
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Well, well, well.

It seems like Koroks are an important detail in BotW, since Nintendo posted a video about them.
And they are not ordinary Koroks. They are EXACTLY the same Koroks you saw in WW.
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>>151915982
>ruin the atmosphere
Here we go again
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>>151917561
>And they are not ordinary Koroks. They are EXACTLY the same Koroks you saw in WW.
hello where is the proof
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>>151918370
Fuck you, you nigger, it's totally true. Just because you're not into that sort of thing doesn't mean no one else can be.
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>>151918805
all 3 shown in the video are completely visually identical to korok from wind waker
same body type and same leaf on the face corresponding to one of them
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>>151918805
>Those aren't just any Koroks, that's definitely Elma, Irch and Hollo from the Wind Waker!! Normally if these were new Korok, given their leaf masks, you could play Koroks in any other timeline for a stretch. But with three specific designs of the Koroks, it's too much of a coincidence.

>If this indicates anything, and with hints from the recent Temple of Time video, Breath of the Wild may lean towards the Adult Timeline.

>Read more here:
http://zeldauniverse.net/2016/08/15/nintendo-releases-yet-more-breath-of-the-wild-footage-this-time-featuring-the-lovely-koroks/
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>>151918908
I am so glad I don't have such a mental deficit and I can enjoy games beyond kinky and secondary stuff like graphics and atmosphere.
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>>151717056
>there is literally no way to change any of a persons anatomy in the Zelda universe
Guess no one could ever change their body in any way in these games...
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>>151724623
Lewd.
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>>151920129
Enjoying the game is not the same as enjoying the atmosphere. You apparently do have a mental deficit if you think they can't be separate.
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>>151920287
You can't argue with stupid. I hate to say it because I love Zelda but 85% of the active online fanbase is literal autistic 12-16 year olds who argue over their shitty theories that were obviously not the intention of the developers.
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>>151920287
Yeah, it's magic. Magic can change your sex too.
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>>151920937
But the character is a female. Born a female, identifies as a female, is a female. "Shiek" does not exist. It's a disguise. Of course she'll go by "he/him" while in hiding, it's part of her disguise. Whether she physically grows a penis (which by the way, why would she?) is irrelevant.
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So this confirms the theory that the world of BotW is post-windwaker, after the great flood drains and hyrule is dried out again?
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>>151921669
Not necessarily. The koroks could have just as well evolved in any of the other timelines after a long period of time.
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>>151921669
It proves we are in the Adult timeline, that's for sure. The Koroks in BotW are EXACTLY the same ones in WW. Nobody can deny it anymore.
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>>151922457
The koroks evolved from the kokiri, who live forever. Of course they will be the same koroks, regardless of the timeline.
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>>151921607
Well at lest you accept that with magic everything is possible.
And going by her physical changes, it's safe to assume Sheik also changed his genitals with magic. You saying it is irrilevant or less is the really irrilevant thing.

Sheik is MALE.
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>>151922563
If that's true, why there aren't koroks anywhere in the Child and Downfall timeline?
If they were only evolutions of all Kokiri, they'd share their same names too.
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>>151922705
>If that's true, why there aren't koroks anywhere in the Child and Downfall timeline?
Because the timeline is an afterthought. The games weren't made with a master timeline in mind, they were strung together after the fact to appease whiny fans.
>If they were only evolutions of all Kokiri, they'd share their same names too.
How do we know they don't? It's not like we know of every single kokiri and every single korok that exists.
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>>151923451
Exactly because it is an afterthough they should be in every timeline. But they aren't.
And exactly because the timelines are an afterthough and Nintendo takes timelines more seriously, Nintendo knows that Koroks have been only in WW, in the Adult timeline. And they have no reason to go against their own afterthough.

No one of the Koroks we know share a name with a single Kokiri.
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>>151923694
>Exactly because it is an afterthough they should be in every timeline
But they didn't come up with them until WW. How would they be in previous games when they haven't been created yet?
>And they have no reason to go against their own afterthough.
They can come up with any reason they want to place characters in whatever timeline they want.
>No one of the Koroks we know share a name with a single Kokiri.
I doubt that the ~ten kokiri we meet in OoT are literally every single kokiri. And maybe they changed their names when they became koroks. Who knows?

I'm not saying you're wrong. The new game could very well be in that timeline. I'm just saying it's silly to act like we know 100% for sure this early.
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>>151921669
No, it proves nothing. Hyrule can't drain. As long as Daphnes exists, Hyrule will forever be underwater.
>>151922457
They'd still exist in other timelines. Just the same as Majora exists in Downfall and Adult or Midna would exist in Downfall and Adult or Medli exists in Downfall or Child.

They all exist across timelines, maybe in some cases they might look different such as the Rito being the Zora. The Kokiri could still exist just fine and become the Koroks taking on those forms.

The exceptions to these rules are the Triforce wielders.
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>>151919619
I like how every single normal human being out there accepted the Adult timeline theory but rejects of this general still didn't. If Koroks existed in all timelines, they would appear in all post-WW games, such as TP, SS, ALBW. They didn't, so they don't exist. It's basic logic, no amount of mental gymnastics and hypoteticals will change it. No Koroks shown outside the Adult timeline means Koroks are an adult timeline thing only. Just like Ritos.
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>>151925635
>TP
Wasn't nearly as long after OoT as WW was
>SS
First game in the timeline, koroks didn't exist yet
>ALBW
We don't see kokiri or gorons either. Does that mean they don't exist, according to your "basic logic"?

Congrats on having the dumbest post in the entire thread
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>>151925785
>We don't see kokiri or gorons either
Dude, kokiri and Gorons don't exist at all in the Downfall timeline. They are all ded.
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>>151925835
Gorons are in the oracle games
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>>151925890
But not in Hyrule.
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>>151925635
That is like saying "If the Four Sword existed in all timelines, it would appear in the Downfall and Adult timelines." You're basically saying they can't exist solely because we don't see them. You could argue the same for the Great Deku Tree in Downfall or the Temple of Time in Adult.

If anything the Temple of Time alone completely disproves the Adult Timeline. It doesn't exist in the Adult Timeline anymore, Hyrule Castle has been built over it, this is very evident when you realize the Tower of the Gods is right above it, which has extreme similarities and functionalities with the Temple of Time in TP.
>>151925835
Gorons exist in the Oracle games. Even in the Historia they don't say the Kokiri are dead in the child timeline either, just that they are missing. We don't see Deku in TP either, and for FSA they said they've been sleeping/hibernating the entire time. For a species such as the Kokiri/Koroks that like to hide and are small, its very easy to never see them.
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hold up
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>>151927914
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>>151712738
which wiki? link please
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>>151929153
Zeldawiki, it started over an argument on Sheik (yes people are still arguing it). So they held a vote, the admin or whatever dismissed the vote against it and went ahead and started adding pronouns and stuff to everything.
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>>151921607
>Whether she physically grows a penis (which by the way, why would she?) is irrelevant.

Actually, she spent like 7 years in hiding, the second she retracts her penis Ganondorf finds and captures her, not even having to be in the same room as her. That's proof enough that she became a man while transformed, since women can't be competent enough to face Ganondorf.
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>>151929767
>not even having to be in the same room as her
To be fair, Zelda choose the worst place to reveal herself. Fuck, the Temple of time is two minutes away from Ganondorf's castle.
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>>151929916
Do you think Sheik was just hanging out in the Temple of Time waiting on the Hero of Time to awaken? Ganondorf probably knew it was her the entire time, OoT Zelda is a fucking idiot after all.
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>>151929916
Isn't that supposed to be holy and shit anyways?

>>151930109
Actually, he outright states that she FIIINALLY REVEALED HERSELF because he supposedly allowed Link to run around Hyrule doing what he wanted.

Also Sheik and Link have met at least twice near the beginning of the adult phase of the game in the Temple of Time, so if Ganondorf knew about it he'd have captured her right then and there.

Which begs the question, why didn't he just capture Link alongside Zelda at that time? Penis power, again.
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>>151930109
>OoT Zelda is a fucking idiot after all.
DELET THIS
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>>151930275
That was my point though, he probably always knew she was Zelda. She had to be hanging around there at the start of the Adult Time for awhile, its too convenient otherwise. He probably just needed absolute proof that it was her and then she revealed herself.

As for Ganondorf, he probably didn't think nothing of it with Link. I mean he just bitch smacked this kid 7 years ago and the kid is what allowed him to get into the Sacred Realm in the first place. Probably just leave him be, he won't be a threat, which he later regrets.
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>>151930448
All of this could have been prevented if Zelda never gave Link the Ocarina of Time. Link never would have opened the Door of Time, Ganondorf never would have got the Triforce, and he'd have eventually died of old age and we'd be done with him for good.
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>>151930591
Bull. Ganondorf would have eventually find the Ocarina.
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>>151925835
>>151925915
>they dont exist at all
>B-but not in hyrule!

Do you understand what "at all" means?
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>>151930730
Would he? He couldn't find Zelda for 7 years, had she kept it on her, she'd still have it with her 7 years later, and if she had never revealed herself, what hope does Ganondorf have then? He has no Triforce of Power, he has no Ocarina, and he still can't find Zelda.
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>>151930461
https://youtu.be/9U5iRSI5v9k?t=400

read the dialogue, Ganondorf didn't know she was transformed into Shiek
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>>151930773
Rosso in ALBW is very clearly some type of Goron/Hylian hybrid anyways, its pretty damn obvious.
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>>151930842
I remember the dialogue. I still doubt that Ganondorf is that stupid. I mean who else has been the Temple of Time that he knows of? Link, that is it. Then suddenly a blonde haired Sheikah (when they all have white hair) shows up with the Goddess Harp.

I mean if he truly didn't at least suspect Sheik, then he's just as dumb.
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>>151930894
I always just figured he was a big guy. I could see that though. But wouldn't he be the only example in the series of a cross-species character? Seems a little odd to me.
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>>151931027
>I always just figured he was a big guy
For you.
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>>151930996
he probably didn't suspect him because he was male :3
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>>151931027
Well technically all the Gerudo are cross-species as well. Zelda gets really odd when it comes to the usage of descendants too. I mean ALBW isn't that long after ALttP at all, yet we have 7 Sages (one of them not being Zelda's lineage), one of which is a Zora, etc. Then you have Irene, her grandmother Maple wasn't a Sage in ALttP when she was little and neither was her grandmother.

Its like some Sages are blood descendants and some are just successors if you will. Zelda gets really weird when it comes to how cross-species and blood descendants work.
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>>151931226
>Well technically all the Gerudo are cross-species as well
I never really thought about that, but it makes sense. Unless they can somehow reproduce asexually or have extremely long lifespans to account for the one male every hundred years thing.
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>>151931350
Yep, at least with the Kokiri and Gorons they make sense. Goron come from the Rocks, and Kokiri from Seeds I guess?

I'd say the Sheikah might be cross-species after awhile too. I mean there are confirmed males now, but you don't see a single other Sheikah hardly yet they continue to exist, especially in Downfall.

Its hard to judge the lifespan of Gerudo though, the only two that live a very long time are Twinrova and Ganondorf and they both use dark magic and stuff.
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>>151930591
>>151930801
Ganondorf didn't need the Triforce to kill the Deku Tree or do any of the shit leading up to his attack on the castle, and he certainly wasn't going to stop there. I doubt the King of Hyrule survived the castle's assault, either, because why wouldn't he have organized parties to find his daughter and apprehend that lying rat bastard who broke into his castle to kidnap her? So we've got possibly several tribes in Hyrule whose leaders are gone, which is a pretty good starting point for taking over the whole place.

I'm also not going to solely blame Zelda for coming up with the best plan available with the information she had, and especially not since things only went completely batshit because of the unforeseeable complication of the Master Sword being a huge bitch. I'm not saying that things couldn't still have gone wrong, because they totally could have (and would have, so that we'd actually have a story), but implying that Zelda could have stayed in hiding forever while her kingdom crumbles and her pursuer will surely outlive her is just dumb.
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Give me three (3) good reasons to define TP better than OoT.
Hard mode: no Midna.

I'll wait.
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>>151933942

Ball and chain
stylish as fuck magic armor
zora tunic looks cooler
bomb arrows
wiimote aiming works really well
the yeti's mansion is one of the more fun dungeons in the history of 3D zeldas.
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>>151933942
double hookshots
spinner
draw distance in the overworld
better water/underwater controls
Link's design
BallnChain
bomb arrows
water bombs
better minigames
that wild west segment
bridge jousting duels
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>>151933942
Navi
Hidden town
More Sidequests and sidecharacters
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PLEBS
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>>151933942
sword techniques alone make it better than OoT
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>>151924664
>As long as Daphnes exists, Hyrule will forever be underwater.
so this means that huryle is already drained right?
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>another adult timeline game

Dropped
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>>151936352
>playing a zelda game for the story
ishygddt
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>>151935948
Considering he appears to be a ghost, probably not. Meaning that wish would stay in tact forever, assuming Nintendo actually remembers. Hell they forgot the Downfall games pretty badly with ALBW.
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>>151936352
>another
We got like three. Same as the Adult timeline.
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>>151938073
Daphnes wasn't a ghost, just like Ganondorf wasn't a Ghost. Daphnes' soul was trapped into a boat with his body probably preserved somewhere in Hyrule Castle, underwater. By opening the doors to Hyrule, Daphnes probably managed to gain back his body.
And then he died when Hyrule was flooded once again.
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>>151938994
It'd still be centuries old in that case, and even then he does teleport around much like a ghost in the series. Also if he died immediately upon it flooding, the it would immediately unflood. Wishes only stay in tact as long as the wisher exists/is alive. I'm sure Daphnes is aware of that and wouldn't have made such a wish for it to be immediately undone.
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>>151902348
ur a gay fggt bitch
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Someone should work on a new thread.
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>>151939469
Doing that

No one posted Sheikah stuff so no Sheikah stuff on OP
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>>151939907
>No one posted Sheikah stuff
It's up there.
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>>151940007
Where nigga
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>>151940086

>>151768057
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>>151930109
Ganondorf already knew. He was already trying to get pendants from the Zora and Gorons. We like to assume that the sword itself would never let someone else pick it up, but that isn't what the game showed. What OOT showed was that the pendants were the key to access everything. We are told there was a war, and then we are shown that the monarchy from the 3 neighboring kingdoms are needed to access the Sacred Realm, because they have the pendants. Ganondorf knew that the pendants had been sent to the three kingdoms so that no one kingdom could control the triforce completely. The kingdoms themselves had probably already forgotten what the pendants were even for, but Ganondorf had his ancient witches to fill him in on old trivia.
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