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GRIMly awaiting best Legendary Lord edition

>Regiments of Renown
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Regiments_of_Renown


>Call of the Beastmen
http://store.steampowered.com/app/404012/

>Cheaper Call of the Beastmen
http://www.gamesdeal.com/total-war-warhammer-call-of-the-beastmen-dlc.html

>Patch notes
http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_Update_2

>FAQs & General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)

>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>Total War Warhammer
Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications

>IS CALL OF THE BEASTMEN WORTH BUYING?
The Beastmen are a cool faction but the pack is a bit overpriced for what you get. There probably won't be a price drop for some time, so if you're impatient or really like the Beastmen then go ahead, otherwise wait it out.

>OVERCASTING SPELLS
Double click a spell (it needs to be a boostable spell and you need to have enough magic in the magic pool) to overcast the spell
There's a 50% chance that the caster damages itself though!

>QUEST BATTLE TELEPORT
Select your lord (make sure he isn't garrisoned or in a stance)
Select the quest battle (on the map or through quest log)
There's a button in the bottom right of the quest battle window that you can use to teleport for 5k gold (when the battle's finished you're automatically teleported back to your original position)

>GROUP ATTACK
Group units with ctrl + g
Select your group and right click the enemy
All your units move and automatically direct themselves to and engage enemies they get close to while maintaining formation

Thank Sigmar it's dead >>151388158
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>Rise of Persia v3.0 will never be released
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>>151471857
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>>151471784
Rollan!

>>151471878
thanks doc
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Total War: Home Improvement
Total War: Spaceballs
Total War: Star Wars
Total War: Rio 2016
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STOOOOOOOOOOOP
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>>151471896
do you have attila's one ?
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anime
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>Rome Total Realism does not include custom music anymore
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>>151471994
yup
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B A T S
A
T
S
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>>151472039
>tfw you will never ever be as perfect as Cell
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>can't play warhammer because the minor meme faction mods are all borked by beastmen
>trying to play M2 is constant yearning for replenishment in between crashes

Reposting because I forgot to ask for any kind of escape from this
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>>151472063
Thanks m8
roll
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>>151472063
>no Berbers

What is this bullshit? No thanks, I'll stick to Barbarian Invasion where I can play as my own race.
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>>151472143
Kill yourself
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>>151472068
Orphaned Bats need to be given tight blankets and constant attention otherwise they just don't do well.
That's why bat rescues always have such coddled cute bats.
The downside, is that bats carry a bunch of nasty diseases which may transmit to humans.
In Australia Total War, bats can infect horses with Hendra Virus, and then the Hendra Horses become quite an issue.
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>>151472286
Wow, watch your mouth.

This is a Christian website, please don't cuss or swear.
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>>151472039
>>>/vr/
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How much favour should you stockpile as chaos?
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>>151472442
>he thinks RTW is considered retro

Reported for being underage.
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Post Regiments of Renown
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Why is Archaon the best Husbando?
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>>151472582
Thanks mate
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>>151472617
Sigvald is for ______
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>>151472430
K̀̇͊̃҉̵̙̳̻͈̠̪̫̩I̧̹̭̥̲̠̥̒̾̏̊ͅL͖̠̭̗̎͒͘ͅL̷̰̹̼̲̮͈̥̱̯ͮ̂ͣ̉͘ ̼͚̺͒ͫͨͨY̬̳͎̐ͩ͋ͬ̅̉̍̀͞O̖̮̣ͯ̇̒U̜͙̲̜̫̽ͪ̕R̜͚̺̮̂̍͒͒̍̾̓̋͢Ś͖͖͈̰̫̦̝͚E͉͙̭̣͎ͭ͋̐͑̿͘L̤̦̱̙͔̺͊̍̊ͅF͍ͦ͋ͣͮ
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>>151472695
me
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Hello mother hello father

fleas ticks mosquitoes really bother
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>>151472308
>Australia Total War
what?
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>>151472870
? Have you been living under a rock?
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>>151472848
Dear man-things,

Your warlord, Karl FranzFranz, is very stupid and not very good at backstabbing. Dwarf-things (us) are much better at kill-kill and our breeders are much prettier. You will all squirt the musk of fear once we come down from the hill-hills, led by Thorgrim Grudgebearer, Horned Rat curse his name-name. The only way to stop us is by leaving as much warpstone as ratmanly possible outside of your sewer entrances in every city. We need this to defeat the most potent of potentates, the most illustrous of illustrouses, Grey Seer Thanquol, Horned Rat bless his great name--you would do well to erect monuments to him lest you incur his wrath. He is incredibly furry, handsome, and has a very long tail.

Sincerely,
Dwarf-things
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>>151472921
>? Have you been living under a rock?
You having a problem with that?
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>>151472946
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>>151471878
arigato sensei
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>>151473039
Not a problem, if that's your thing. People don't usually live under rocks is all.
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WORK HEBREWS, WORK!

THE PHARAOH WANTS THIS TO BE FINISHED AT DEADLINE.
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>>151473123
>People don't usually live under rocks is all.

I'm pretty sure Australians live under rocks senpai
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>>151472946
I ain't want no grudge with no dwarfs, so here take 'em
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>>151473219
I said people.
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>>151473126
Thank the LORD for freeing us from bondage.
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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?
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>>151473123
>People don't usually live under rocks is all
Oh I had no idea, sorry to bother you
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So is this all the Freelc theres going to be, or all that they have so far? Because if this is it then damn
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>>151473332
women are inferior to men.
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>>151473365
All FLC till the big "expansion"
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>>151473381
Men are inferior to women.
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>>151473428
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>>151473428
Then how come I can beat so many women in a fist fight.
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>>151473475
>being this new
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>>151473126
>ancient egyptians
>not black
smhtbqhfamalam
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>>151473607
WE
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>>151473635
WERE
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You're in the Empire with your non-humie m8s raidin, when Boris "Beastmen flinger" Todbringer shows up and slaps your armies ass, what do you do?
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>>151473664
DUMB
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>>151473709
>Boris Todbringer
how can one man be this based?
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>>151473840
>tfw Boris was supposed to be the King
>tfw it should've been Boris with the hammed up lines
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30 Years War when?
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>>151473709
>its hammers all the way down
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>>151473765
This is how I know you're not a True Christian. You probably just looked it up online instead of reading it straight from the Bible. If you actually read it from the Bible then you would know the next line teaches us this:
>but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin

Burn in eternal hellfire you unsaved heretic!
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Playing Empire: TW with Darthmod, is there any reason to go from demi-cannons to 12-pounders?
Both are horse drawn, but the 12 pounder is half the weight, costs more, and has higher upkeep.
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>>151474069
I like how the Greek phalanx was forgotten for centuries and then suddenly became popular again.
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>>151474249
uh wow could you be any more ignorant?
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>>151474195
its mechanically impossible to do that
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>>151474373
Do what, not disrespect your L-RD and creator?
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>>151474321
>implying the greeks didnt have guns
they had steam engines ffs m8

they probably just cleverly hid all their high tech weapons to keep them from falling into persian hands.
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>>151473427
and what is said expansion?
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>>151474679
Wood Elves in that big dense forest
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Is there ANYTHING in the Warhammer world that can beat THIS?
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>>151474679
the thing that will open a new part of the map with (I guess) 4 new factions

Like the south or the west
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>>151471878
danke Doktor
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>>151474679
>>151474749
Wood Elves are probably October's paid DLC. The first "expansion" will be the "second game" which may or may not be Ulthuan and the New World.
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>>151474909
Oh that could be interesting. Seems a bit soon though doesn't it?
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>2016
>Not praising Khorne
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>>151475046
Khorne is such an entry-level Chaos god. As a True Understander of Chaos, I side with
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>>151474948
well I imagine it doesn't take them that long since they don't balance fucking anything until they sell it to us beta testers
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>>151475046
ok, this is my favorite one so far
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Wood Elves confirmed September.
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I want to see love bloom between humans and elves!
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>>151475896
Elves are for breeding not love
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>>151475046
Two weeks until Chaos Crusade, slaughtering every single one of you Chaos shits.
Best day of my life!
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>>151476010
i agree, now hit me up with some elf breeding
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>>151476010
this
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>>151475853
This.
DLC 01 - May
DLC 02 - June
DLC 03 - July
DLC 04 - August
DLC 05 - September

Not sure why retards think it would be in October or even later.
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>>151476405
So when will DLC06 come out?
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>>151474948
Wood Elves or the big expansions? I wouldn't expect Ulthuan/NWorld until after most of the races are already in through DLC, because most are just DLC for the main first game judging by datamining. We'll still get small map extensions w/ Tomb Kings, Chaos Dwarfs, and Ogres.

>>151476405
I keep forgetting September exists as a month.
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>>151476070
Are we going to get some flagellants when papa Grim gets in?
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>>151476592
I sure as hell hope so
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>>151476010
Do not defile the ancient elvish bloodlines!
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>>151474519
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>>151477182
what is he trying to say here ?
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>>151477259
Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division.
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>>151477259
I imagine Bureau.
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>>151477607
but it's easy to say
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>>151477747
hook me up with a pronunciation guide
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>>151477747
I had trouble when I was like six years old, especially because nobody around me actually used that word for me to copy.

>>151477798
/'bjʊəroʊ/
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>>151477798
bu (not boo)
ro

>>151477920
guess I'm lucky to be french then
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>>151477498
>Strategic
>Homeland
>Intervention
>Enforcement
>Logistics
>Division
>S.H.I.E.L.D.
damn, is that some illerminaty shit?
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>>151471878
Thanks doc
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>>151472659

Yup. Will try and finish norse VMD in a day or two. Got started on a bunch again since the fundamental work was already done when I paused, so that's good.

Not at statting them yet by far but relooking over my spreadsheet concept it looks like, at least as a tenative plan:

Saxons/Angles will get highest tier spearmen (other norse get just a T3 armored mook, not an elite noble type), against my better judgement they'll get a heavy (at least some in mail/scale, some perhaps in just a quilted kaftan) javelinmen - I can think of them as javelinmen in that heroic iliadic sort, 2 or so melee cav, not sure if they get any berserkers.

Danes/Jutes(?) - besides naval units I am not touching right now they'll get the best/most 2h axemen (3 + a bodyguard option of one) vs 0 two-hand-axe for saxon and 1 or 0 for Geats , no cavalry whatsoever except for cav skirmishers, a hide-anywhere banditry javelinmen for shits and giggles (could siphon it off to Saxons), best swordsmen (T5 vs T4 for other two), 2 berserkers instead of 1 and maybe that unique one will be armored(?). Maybe their best 1h axemen are fully armored vs half-armored for geat/saxon.

Geats - based off those vendel plates and some roman author saying "Oh yea them geats mang they had good horses" in a single sentence. 4 melee cavalry vs 2 Saxon and 0 Dane, cavalry bodyguard option.
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>>151479060
YAAAY MELONCAT IS STILL ALIVE. We missed you m8.
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>>151479060
Nice, finally I can play as le ebin vikings
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>>151479060

With celts at least the plan as I left it, assuming I don't edit it, is:
Picts: Spears/pikes, xbows, cavalry
Caledonians: able to get some mid-late Romanized guys to be a kind of Romano-Briton
Irish: Kind of a messy business of better javelinmen, berserkers, some chariots. That'll probably change the most once I get to statting them.

In all honesty with the slavs given a dearth of material in this period I'm not sure how much I can achieve a major distinction between them. It should be somewhat possible. Before I paused my notes said Venedians had a Roman/Greek author say they "knew the use of shields, always traveled on foot in contrast to the Sarmatians" though Venedii were also paradoxically Germano-Sarmatian. Another refers to the Justinian era and a body of 1600 regular cavalry used by the Romans "the majority were huns, sclaveni, and antae".

So maybe the antae guerilla emphasis shifts to the Venedii, the Antae and Sclaveni having more cav.

>>151479162
Sorry again for having disappeared, but I do feel the modding bug biting me again so that's good, and at a minimum I can make sure all the rosters are done before I throw in the towel. Also the startpos. Also try to set up an informative database A google spreadsheet to help people modify it themselves. Since right now you need a damn rosetta stone to figure out what a Roman latin named unit is in the codework since I piggybacked on CA's own unit code names.

And I doubt I'll fully stop there since any future historical TW is at least a year or more away and butterlord is 10 gorillion years away. I dunno what more extensive stuff I'd have the stamina for after finishing, but there is still the issue of naval stuff or a kind of soft AOR recruitment. Not 'a separate roman legion shield emblem for every province' but "make it so moops conquering Roman territory can use Romano-Moopish units", or Visigoths in Africa can field berbers.
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>tfw youre finally able to send the levies home and replace them with trained soldiers

at least the survivors get back to their families
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>>151479703
>butterlord
Are you active there as well? Who are you in /mbg/?

>Chariots
HAHA TIME FOR 1500 killcounts
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>>151479703

Keeping poisonous arrows and likely giving a lot more slav units if they don't have it already ambush/hide abilities. Quite frankly CA's whole celtic angle of gorilla warfare would be perfect for the Slavs since the Byzantine 6th century book says Slavs are only deadly in gorilla warfare but when they fight you as gorillas they are vicious neo-harambists eager for blood that'll fuck you up.

For now sleep.

>>151479838

I don't frequent MBG but I will when it comes out. I played M&B way back in the day, I think since 2005-2006 when it was a wee beta (just vaegirs and Swadia and bandits. No rhodoks, nords were just sea raiders, black khergits were plate-armor wearing horse archers). I learned my way around texturing in M&B:W but just in a practicing way with the help of some there like the guy who did most of the stuff for 1257. When butterlord comes out though yeah I'll definitely try and do some stuff.

And I am not sure how lethal the chariots'll be since they'll be rickety Celtic ones, but I know I got them working in Attila (And AE did so too so it's def possible). This was a test way back without the proper rider.
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>>151471784
Having a crisis of conscience on whether I should make volkmar as my reiksmarshall or todbringer in my next empire campaign.
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>>151480143
>keeping poisonous arrows
Is there some way of making them not stupid overpowered? The exhaustion needs to fucking go for example.
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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>>151480202
I really hope they turn the office of the Arch-Lector into Grand Theogonist
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>>151480247

Before I sleep yeah you can adjust their stats and effects. I don't know how silly they are but they shouldn't be superpowered. I'm not sure how I'd cast them myself if I were to replace what CA did. Either they should sap your morale, sap your fatigue level or something else.

Looking up what poison (doggos) does in warham: ↑ Poison Attacks: The poisonous attacks of this unit weaken the target's speed and damage, whilst increasing its vigour. "It's basically a five second debuff of -22% to speed, attack, and something else."

Maybe that, minus the five second part? Not sure if it'll be translatable to Attila but it should since spells in their effects are kind of just glorified abilities.

Will look into it when I get to slavs.
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>>151480307
>this goes on for at least another 6 months
Please end it already
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>unf
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>>151480809
I want to dp Vampire-chan with Khalida
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>>151480945
>>151480809
>>151480307

>people are genuinely wanting to play boring ass Tomb Kangz before any other race
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>>151480809
What the hell does >unf mean
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>>151481220
I don't care about Kangz, I just want to dp Vampire-chan with Khalida
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>>151481220
>Tomb Kangz are VC and egyptian mixed up
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>>151481375
Unf is unf.
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>>151481375
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>you are now aware that the new expansion/Total War game will be announced in spring 2017 and release early 2018.

~1 1/2 year to go lads..
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>>151481662
WW1 TW when?
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>>151472063
pls best empire
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>>151482085
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>>151481980
Hopefully never. It doesn't fir the TW formula. TW games were always about long historical periods. WW1 was just 4 years long.
I could see this as a mini campaign t for a victoria TW though.
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>>151482085
WE
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>>151482085
HOL UP
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>>151472063
Roll desu

>>151482190
WUZ
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>>151472063
ROLLAN
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>>151482468
*deploys behind you*
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>>151482271
KANGZ
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>>151482085
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>>151482156

>long historical periods
>completely ignores Napoleon and all campaigns in Rome 2

Nah, WW1 could be done easily. There's already a mod that does a good job of it.
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>>151482874
Not him but the biggest problem is that units of men stopped mattering (on the western front) at this point. Also even on the eastern front the big thing was artillery - with enough artillery you could say 'fuck it' to literally anything else, you end up with FotS tier stalemate-battles.
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>>151480945
w-what is she doing to based vampire count?
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>>151474948

As long as they can reuse animations they will be able to crank out factions really quick. We're getting 19 new units just now for example, and most of them will either have new textures or models.

The expansion will problably feature Ulthuan since there are a crapton of elf-lovers in every community, and they can easily reuse skeletons for both Dark and High Elves.
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>>151483039
tenderly caress him with her snake tentacles
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>>151483020

That's not really a hindrance since the games feature alternate history.

Not quite sure how they'd handle a infantry squad meleeing a tank though. It works in Warhammer because of the goofy setting, but in a historical game? Debatable.
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>>151483309
Not my point, I meant that by the time period we're talking about, Artillery is not only King of the Battlefield, it's essentially the only thing that matters. Infantry are only good for overrunning enemy encampments, and even more importantly actual 'battles' stopped being a thing, it was just what amounted to continuous engagement, even on the eastern front.
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>>151481220
Tomb Kings are pretty cool, though.

I wonder how they're going to play, in TT they were the "expert" race, because of how many weird rules and exceptions they had.
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>>151484087
>in TT they were the "expert" race
>this is what Dumb Kangz actually believe
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new content when?
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>>151484358
13 days
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>>151484358
go play a finished TW while we wait for this early access game to get its next update
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>>151484186
Expert as in difficult to play.

Their army is almost entirely composed of lightly armored, slow units, their magic lore isn't all that powerful and serves mostly situational purposes, and they have a million special rules to boot. They require a lot of attention and synergy to work properly.
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>>151483408

And it's not a hindrance because Total War games are ahistorical.

And artillery being king and sending soldiers to their deaths sounds like a pretty damn boss TW game if you ask me.
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Tactics for Ebdani in the campaign? I got battles covered, it's just they seem to hit a roadblock by the time they get into lower Gaul.
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>>151484540
>Their army is almost entirely composed of lightly armored, slow units, their magic lore isn't all that powerful
So you're telling me they're a shit faction?
Good that you're seeing it yourself at least
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>>151484451
So.. 12 days from now, it'll be...
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>>151484764
No, just difficult to play.

Also, fuck off, Vampire Cuck.
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>>151484773
yes, it will be...
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>>151484840
>implying I play spooky scary skellingtons
I ONLY FIGHT FOR SIGMAR BECAUSE I'M boring
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>>151480945
>>151484941
>Ushabti with two wieners and Khalida with tentacle snakes double-teaming Vampire-chan
>The Ushabti taking her from behind while Khalida's tentacle snakes take her mouth and suck on her veiny titties
This will never happen ;_;
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>>151485120
you disgust me but that's still kinda hot
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>>151485120
Not even our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ can save you, there's nothing but hellfire for you.
You good people of /twg/, see this poor souls fall from grace and repent!
Only the one true faith can save you from eternal torment!
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>>151485487
>anime
>christfag
that kinda doesn't fit
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>>151480945
>>151483214

whats the lore behind this anyway? There some sort of feud between the tomb kangz and vc?
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>>151481220
>Tomb Kings
>Boring

That's not how you spell greatest human civilization of all time in Warhammer Fantasy.
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>>151485604
>However, Neferata couldn't keep the horrifying rumors of her people secret and word spread throughout Nehekhara that the Lahmian court had become Nagash-worshiping monsters (not untrue). Neferata's solution was to accuse her cousin, High Queen Khalida who was essentially a Paladin queen of the nearby kingdom of Lybaras, of being a bloodsucking Undead. The already stupid plan failed when Neferata's duel for honor with Khalida resulted in both receiving mortal wounds despite Neferata's immense power. In desperation she sucked Khalida's blood in front of the assembled nobility who fled in horror to alert Nehekhara that the Undead had returned. Neferata attempted to turn Khalida into a Vampire, but Khalida's dying prayers to her snake goddess Asaph turned her blood to venom and purged the Vampiric taint. Khalida's body was recovered and her people buried her as the greatest Nehekharan monarch after Settra ("greatest ever" is a theme with Nehekharan royalty) while the rest of their people gathered in a massive army.
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>>151485604
Tomb Kings HATE the Vampire Counts as they are the product of Nagash. Likewise the Tomb Kings HATE Nagash. Tomb Kings are, believe it or not, good guys and not evil despite being skeletons. They take care of their people and only rise from death to defend their homeland from invaders or Nagash. Nehekhara used to be a utopia state, equal to Ulthan before Nagash fucked it up.
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Napoleon: Total War invades Warhammer: Total War, how well would he do?
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>>151485604
>>151485798
>The Vampires fled to the Black Pyramid where they found Nagash waiting for them, eager to take these new generals to lead the Undead against the living once more. The battle raged for some time, and the leader of the living was captured and held while Nagash used the break in the fighting to begin casting a spell that would kill all life in Nehekhara for use as his animated skeleton army to march on the rest of the world. Unbeknownst to all beings involved, the Skaven had been watching the conflict and were horrified at what Nagash could do to the world if left undefeated. They forged the ultimate weapon made of pure Warpstone, a dagger so dangerous that upon touching it the bearer was doomed to a horrible and painful death and gave it to the leader of the living, who killed Nagash with it before perishing himself and falling into the ocean where he turned up later bearing Nagash's Crown Of Command. Nagash, as one last "FUCK YOU" to the living, repurposed his spell to simply kill everything in Nehekhara. Although always a desert with ample skulls, the spell rendered the entire land devoid of water or vegetation while the ground layer immediately below the sand is made up of solid skeletons. Animals, merely animated bones, still wander the desert looking for living flesh to tear.

The Vampires began to fight over whose fault the defeat was before making their way north to find more living beings. Some among their number had already fled previously, with Neferata and her husband having deserted even before the battle out of disdain for having to potentially follow Nagash as their leader, while the Captain of the Guard had left immediately after the battle in shame.
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>>151485604
>>151485869
>The most drastic effect of the spell was the effect it had on the dead; those killed by the spell immediately stood back up, bewildered at their new state. Desert winds stripped the dead flesh from the Nehekharans, leaving only bleached and animated bones remaining. As they returned to their homes they found that the kings of old, now called Tomb Kings, had awoken as well as those Nehekharans who had been entombed in their great tomb cities over the centuries. The commoners were content to reenact their living ways by maintaining the buildings, and shifting from buying, harvesting, and selling food to buying, crafting, "harvesting", and selling rocks and bones shaped like food. This however was not enough for the Tomb Kings. As hundreds upon thousands of generations in the same family line awoke, they immediately came into conflict with one another. For example, great great great great grandpa was enraged at how everyone had forgotten his name and accomplishments, great great great grandpa was shocked that his own son had taken his tomb and shoved the old man's body in a slave's casket in the entrance, great great grandpa demanded explanation for why his son had signed a peace treaty with the king who killed him in a war rather than avenge his father, grandpa revealed his son was a bastard that washed up on shore because his own sister/wife had miscarried every babby, dad died at the age of 14 after conceiving a child and demanded a prom be thrown in his honor, son had changed the main faith of the kingdom to another god and pissed off everyone else in the line, and grandson had failed to stop Nagash.
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>>151481662
expansion will likely be near ready early 2017 as the FLC plan is supposed to last from first warhammer release to the expansion and people have predicted the FLC lasts until Dec/Jan.
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>>151485604
>>151485992
>Every single one of them wants to be in charge, and sit in the throne that every single one of them sat at during their reign, and every single one has a big enough and infinitely respawning army of skeletons to use to demand they get their way. Fueling the frustration was the relatively poor upkeep many of the early tombs had seen, on top of the worst offense at all; no body of gold, no immortal flesh, only brittle bone and wrappings with the odd scarab or two scuttling around the hollow places inside. The only exception to the dusty carnage was Khalida, who strode past her warring ancestors who fought over the palace to her own palace which had been located inside the Temple of Asaph, wearing the golden armor and death mask her people had made for her and resembling the promised skin no other Tomb King had received, and took her throne to usher in the only peace to be found in the lands of the dead.
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>>151486326

>no R1 or its expansions
>no MTW1 or Shogun 1

Why?
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>>151486326
the only total wars i have is medieval (1) and memehammer
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Was just thinking, the new empire unit might not be Flagellants, it could be a War Altar given that's also a mount for Volkmar the Grim.
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>>151484739
>And it's not a hindrance because Total War games are ahistorical.
They are ahistorical in that you can lead one side that lost to their victory or make the entire Roman Army heavy cavalry. They aren't ahistorical in that Romans get two-handed axemen or that Norsemen get godly cavalry and fight like the huns.
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Tomb KANGZ when?
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>>151487386
Fucking gross
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>>151485798
>>151485869
>>151485992
>>151486083
neat
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>>151487676

I actually prefer her mummified version.

There's also a horribly digital CGI Nagash image around that's kind of similar. I think it's fanart though.
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>>151485850
>Gets his soul sucked out by some autistic Vampire spamming spirit leech
>"NAPOLEON WAS WEAK, WITNESS TRUE POWAH"
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>>151486326
Rollin
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>>151471878
Gracias Doctor.
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>>151486615
Most people don't have them
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>>151485850
How much artillery does Napoleon get?
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>>151473365
Anyone got the one that was being spread around with predictions of who it will be?

Because this update just blew the fuck out of it, they said no DLC this month and Starsnik next month with Wood Elves following.

If the Russian leaks are correct WE are September.
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>>151474948
Wait what is new world?
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>>151488645
Why.
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>>151485850

How many Old Guard does Napoleon get to bring?
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G O B L I N S
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>>151488946
are the worst
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>>151471896
Let the dice decide my fate.
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>>151489156
I was hoping for less autism, but what the hell, let's have some fun until Nagash had enough of my shit.
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>>151488645
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>>151489279
>Mannfred von Carstein
>autism
Can you delete this, please?
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>>151474862
That's cute.
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>>151489456
Sieges had so much potential in TWWH
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>>151481220
>before
No, not before.
After six other factions you silly goose.
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>>151489452
Can Manny act less autistic?

>>151489547
I hoped (but knew it won't happen) that we'll get unique siege maps for the more important cities/holds.
In Third Age that was one of my favourite things, even though it was buggy as hell at times.

Now it's just a game of rush the wall (singular) and break the gate with your miners/monsters.

Even a fucking mod for M&B can have unique cities.
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>>151489456
Yeah but can anything in the warhammer world that can beat THIS?
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>>151489456
>giant cannon for defensive siege

for what purpose
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>>151471896
why the fuck not
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>>151489981
>Laughing doggos.bark
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>>151490053
dear god no please why
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>>151490047
>Implying you wouldn't want a fuck off huge cannon to fire at fuck off huge giant spiders
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>>151471896
rollin

>>151490124
tendies arent gonna cook themselves
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>>151489981
Those blessed by the Lady.
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>>151490124
WITNESS TRUE POWER
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>>151490228
That thing probably traverses slow as fuck, doesn't even look like it could depress. It's fucking worthless.
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https://youtu.be/lxDL2VtkTnk

G-guys ?
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>>151490343
>Well, I guess they just gave us the new historical Total War everyone's been asking for.
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>Playing Rome 1
>Being a casual
>Owning a fucking iPad

If you ever play Rome 1 you need to get the fuck out of this general
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>>151472474
What is Warrior-chan going to do with all that gold?
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>>151490761
Get his dicks gilded.
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>>151472946
Uncensored version where?
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>>151471878
thanks doc
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Will Jeff van Dyck ever return?
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Post predictions for the three new LL.

Vamps


Empire


Dwarf or Chaos
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Vampire chans massive butt!!!
>>151488645
Thats actually kind of cool. If I had an I pad id be taking that for bus trips.
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>>151491016

Tomb Kings
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>>151490343
I like it
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>>151490629
>best classical tw game
>bad
haha what?
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>>151491392

That's Attila you fucking casual
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>>151489981
yes, dawi zharr
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>>151491468
attila isn't a classic tw game, its a modern tw game. try to keep up
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What do you think the odds of them adding fortification battles and town battles again?

We can assume naval battles will be back with the second title, but what about other battle types.
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>>151491613
T H I N
H
I
N
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>>151491698
about zero, naval battles are likely to happen, if only because it's already part of warscape

after the shit they pulled with sieges, town/fort battles will never happen
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so much for skarsnik...but im still confused

>Volkmar LL + ???? LL + FLC VC LL + Lore of Shadow and Grey Wizard

but that still leaves Wurrzag which is confirmed so does that mean Wurrzag is also included in this months clutch of content or is he just going to exist on his own?

also where is everyone getting Welf september from?
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>>151491698
I'd say it's a "maybe" If they do they'll just be like the unfortified ones from ROME II/Attila though. So a few streets and that would be it I'd imagine.

And yeah if the theory of of the next expansion being Lizarmen/high/dark elves then I can see naval battles coming back for sure next game.
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>>151475853
>>151476405

DLC 01 - Warriors of Chaos - May
DLC 02 - Blood and Gore - June
DLC 03 - Beastmen - July
DLC 04 - Regiments of Renown - August
DLC 05 - Wood Elves - September
DLC 06 - Halloween Spooky - October
DLC 07 - Unit pack - November
DLC 08 - Tomb Kings - December
DLC 09 - LL Pack - January
DLC 10 - Skaven - Febuary
DLC 11 - Unit Pack - March
DLC 12 - Dogs of War - April
DLC 13 - Chaos Dwarfs - May
DLC 14 - Army Painter - June
DLC 15 - Ogre Kingdoms - July
Russian data leak is 80% correct and only wrong about the last expansions, not the DLC for the first game.
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>>151491060
Dem thighs are still where it's all at.
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>>151492345
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>>151490982
one dick is overrated
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>>151492235
When will be the first expansion? Because you would need quite some map expansion to do these dlc
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>>151472529
>12 years old is not retro
i bet you think 12 years old is old eneough to sex too
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>>151492235

>Unit pack

No such thing exists.
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>>151492506
Only Ogre Kingdoms territory aren't on the current map.
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>>151492492
Yeah yours ;^)
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>>151492727
They can always spawn as a horde :^)
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>>151492727
Are they not just to the East?
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>>151493009
Honestly I can see them and Skaven using holds as their settlements. Besides all they'd need to do is add on some more area either down in the bad lands or off to the side of it and they'd be good.
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Dwarfs/Greenskins/Ogres/Skaven will all be mutually conquerable same way Undead/Humans.
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Are those lit torches? And a gate too?
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>>151493491
Skavenshits are gonna burn good.
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Are poison warhounds something exclusive to undivided and Nurgle warbands in fluff?
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>>151493491
Is that a frozen lake shaped like an eight-pointed star at the very far right?
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>>151493491

That's the surface remnants of the ruins in which the city of Skavenblight, heart of the Skaven Under-Empire, is built.
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>>151493009
>>151493186

Or combine them. Bretonnia will have Errant Wars, and Ogre Kingdoms have their migrations.
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>>151493948
nah, Errant wars will be another shitty Waaagh copypaste, same with Ogre migrations

you heard it first here
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SO WHAT THE FUCK IS BRETONNIA GOING TO GET.

>Errant Knights
Not really needed.
>Questing Knights
Obviously in.
>Grail Pilgrims
High-morale infantry. Definately in.

And that's fucking it. Empire, VC and Orcs will still have a bajillion more units to choose from.

The only thing I can think of would be longbowmen and maybe a peasant hero of some kind, and even that's pushing it.
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>>151494101

Errantry Wars is just Crusades or Jihad from the previous games. There is no reason to make it any more or less complicated than that.
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>>151494116
add the grail reliquary either as it's own unit or as a grail pilgrim variation, and maybe, sword&shield infantry?

and i can see the errant knights making it too, even if not needed
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>>151486326
rollen
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>>151491862
Yep this thing was a lie, everyone was saying it was reliable.

No DLC this month according to this, also means we are not getting Wood Elves with Bretonnia.

Or the Russian leak is wrong and WE are not DLC 5.
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SUMON THE ELETRIC COUTS
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>>151494205
What is less complicated than copypasting Waaaghs?

porting a mechanic from Medieval 2 sounds like more trouble than that

It'd be so much better tho, waaaaghs are lame as fuck
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>>151494407
Just as planned.
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>>151494527
Holy sht thatis the most fucking kawaii shit i have ever seen in my entire life i want one
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>>151494527
That's a very happy piglet
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>>151491862
People are saying wood elves next month because the Russian data mine says it will be DLC 5, the unit of renown are DLC 4.

However it will also mean Brettonia are not released with wood elves making the leaks wrong.

I will be surprised if we even get three pieces of FLC this month.
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>>151493948
I hope so, would love to have to drop everything to have to go on a Errant quest FOR THE LADY.

Would hopefully make them into a wild card in the campaign.
>>
>Alt-tab during loading scene
>Forget that its an ambush
>get memed.
well, time to save scum.
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>>151494875
>didn't install on an ssd
You brought this on yourself.
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holy shit cavalry is a lot more powerful in this game than in warhammer.
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>>151494449
This was only ever educated speculation, and not backed by the Russian leaks which mostly concern themselves with the order factions will be released in. We know there is one DLC between beastmen and wood elves, and this looks to be it.

What about this invalidates the Wood Elves + Bretonnia theory?
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>>151492727
Tomb Kings are a lot further south as well. Skaven would need some kind of under-world representation as well. Chaos Dwarfs are also further east.
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>>151495168
If Bretonnia are to be released with wood elves then we will get 4 pieces of FLC this month, which i highly doubt.

2 free legendary lords, a hero and a new lore of magic along with the DLC?
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>>151495102
You should play m2 if you want true meme-cav.
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>>151495346
Well the idea people have is that Wood Elves will be paid for DLC and in order to sweeten it over they'll release the Bretonnia faction as FLC along side.

So far CA's game seems to be releasing paid for content with something smaller for free. And considering 90% of Bretonnia is already in the game I can't imagine it would be as much work as starting from scratch.
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>>151495346
It's not unreasonable to assume we may get a new lore with the other legendary lord, whoever he turns out to be. Since it's probably a Vampire if they are doing a Sigmar's Blood themed regiments of renown release, we can maybe expect shadow. It doesn't seem too much to expect from accompanying the DLC.

That'd leave room for Bretonnia next month, along with the lore of life to fill out their damsels. The Wood Elves would have access to most of their lores at that point, with seven different lores even if they didn't add any others.
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>>151494116

I fucking hope that GW either gives them free reign to make something up or possibly take some references from rulebooks that were never made into actual units and expand those.
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>>151474069

Never, because regiments of renown are reskinned vanilla units so no pikemen of nuln.
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>>151494527

>tfw no pig species specifically bred to never grow larger than the size of a small dog
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>>151495623
>>151495591

We have been getting the bare minimal in terms of free content, we are getting one unit at a time so far.

I would be very surprised if CA gave us a free LL for vamps and orcs, as well as the Empire and Dwarf paid DLC.

Perhaps they are going to do it to give every faction their third LL, but then why would anyone be willing to pay whatever they charge for the same content when they just gave it away for free.

We are paying for the legendary lords not the reskinned units, so it would be odd for CA to give us pretty much the same content for free.
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>>151492582
Don't be gross, that's way too old.
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>>151494116
They'll get Errant Knights, because they can't afford to skip units in such a flimsy armybook and because it's easy to put in.

They'd be perfect for impetuous/may charge without orders, but we haven't seen that in game yet even though many units with frenzy from the tabletop have already made it in.

There will presumably not be any heretical accretions to the army not supported in the 6th edition list.
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>>151495956
What about some kind of knight archers that fight on foot?
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>>151495912
I should have said an extra free hero too.

So that would be all for free
Orc legendary lord
Empire hero
Vampire count legendary lord
New lore of magic

The DLC will be
Empire legendary lord
1 new unit for Empire
18 reskins
Legendary lord for Dwarf?
2 generic lords, presumably the non legendary equivalent of the new LL.

Dont get me wrong it would be nice for that to be true, but CA want to milk this as much as they can and with Sega being massive Jews its even more unlikely.
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>>151494451


I AM BRANZ AN EMPREROR
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>>151495768

They already have that permission. As long as it fits the setting I'm pretty certain they can add whatever they want.

And longbowmen would fit perfectly for Brets. Not sure what else you can give them.
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>>151496195
>knight archers
Radious get the fuck out of this general
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>>151495956

And what then? They already have a really meagre army, and they need atleast 5-8 new units to be on par with the rest of the factions.
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What are wood elf armies like?
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>>151496356
>>151496195
They are mediocre due to costing. You could make their knights aggressively costed and they'd be fine. It's sort of inevitable that bretonnia lacks a lot of tactical depth. But I sure don't see GW letting units not on the tabletop make it in.
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>>151496258
There are so many subtle references and allegories to Nietzschean philosophy in the Radious mod that so called "understanders" will never understand.
When people dismiss Radious and his works they're actually enabling him to ascend from his old self into the Übermensch of mod making, while they themselves indulge in slave morality represented by the authoritarian institutions known as "lore". Note how the lore is never represented by a single individual, only the faceless GW. The essence of slave morality (represented as "the lore" and "faction differences") is adherence to GW and rational game-design: The good is what is lore accurate, not strong and balanced units for everyone. CA does not see beyond this simple morality, but Radious does.
While decrying the mod, the "understander" will dismiss Black Orcs using bows. He does so out of misguided anger, furious that neither his faith in CA nor lore-knowledge has given him a game where he can do what he pleases with no restrictions on his choices, while the Radious mod can. At the same time, Black Orcs shooting at the sky symbolizes the death of GW (representing God) as a source of morality (lore) for the people. In understanding this one's belief is finally set free, and one can finally play a game where you have access to unlimited money and power.
With the Radious mod, the entire worldview based on slave morality is destroyed. He's destroying old thoughts such as lore. He's destroying assymetrical faction balance. He's destroying boring money limitations. He's destroying even his own reputation among the plebs as he overcomes his old self to become the over-man. In this destruction, a new idea of strategy games rises from the wreckage - the triumph of "balance" over "lore".
But if balance and money triumphs over "lore", the only meaning of the game is then the unrestricted will to power (money), and that means only the Übermensch will prosper. There can finally be true Total War.
Bravo Radious.
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>>151496417
Extremely low armor, good maneuverability. Best access to magic in the game, with bonuses to fighting and casting in forests. Rely on tree-spirits for staying power and hitpoint sponges.

They should be like celts or beastmen with deployment everywhere and being able to hide in regular terrain. Their skirmisher units are very good, but they lack any sort of artillery, so they aren't necessarily as good as dwarfs at range overall.
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>>151496685
you forgot the whole archery, armour piercing longbows and magic arrows thing
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>>151496417
stealth archers and magic treemen
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>>151497205
I said they've got very good skirmishers. They've got the best archers around, but thats not that exciting when they lose duels to quarrelers anyway because they have no armor/shields/toughness.

I wonder if we'll see any of their magic arrows make it in except for the poison ones? I expect we'll see the others only as names on upgrades in the tech tree.
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>>151480307
TOMB KANGZZZZZZ REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>151496497

>It's sort of inevitable that bretonnia lacks a lot of tactical depth.

Yeah, they'are all about tying the enemy up with shitty peasants and then charging with the knights. There's no real variety to Brets.

Not really CAs fault though, since they've been designed that way. I guess we could criminals as units, like Robin Hood, forced to fight instead of being hanged.

>>151497456

>not that exciting when they lose duels to quarrelers anyway because they have no armor/shields/toughness.

That's.... depressing.

Unless they give wood fags AP arrows. Then shit might get interesting.
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>>151496417
they have Ents with healing magic
and dudes who ride giant hawks and shoot longbows while they're at it
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>>151497456
fuck dwarfs ima give them my poison tipped dick
Woodbois WW@
>>151498041
they have extra armour piercing arrows in addition to the bows themselves having the quality by default
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Are warhammer doges OP?

cos they sure fucking feel OP
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>>151498169

Nah, good flankers but that's about it.
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>>151498169
obnoxious as fuck to use at least
waste of a slot
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>>151498169
if it's something they clearly are more powerful than they kill it quicker than anything and have the mobility to quickly move away if necessary. however against most units they get fucked unless they hit them in the back or sides.
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>>151498157

>they have extra armour piercing arrows in addition to the bows themselves having the quality by default

Looking forward to get a ranged heavy army.

Will be a pain in the ass to fight against though.
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>>151498041
Wood Elves have some AP built in by default on tabletop with the option for more, but reducing your opponent's armor close to yours (none) is still a joke when the enemy has higher toughness than you and his weapon also shoots harder than yours. Wood Elf archery is good but they tend to lose archery duels because they can't take hits at all. In tabletop their real strength was always maneuverability and being able to get combined charges with units that have great charge bonuses.

Wood Elves will hopefully be beastmen fast so we can see some really irritating kiting. Glade Riders will make marauder horseman spam look genteel.
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TTTTOOOOMMMMMBBBBB

KKKKIIIIINNNNGGGGZZZZZZ
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>>151498481

>Glade Riders
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>>151498580
>That middle one
I really don't think that's even relatively doable
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>>151498041
To be fair they're supposed to have all sorts of amo/arrows

So if they have high damage/ap they should do fine.

Dwarfs really are a "No fun" faction though.
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>>151499321
>Dwarfs really are a "No fun" faction though.
They really overdid it with the "grumble-grumpy lel" thing, goddamn.
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>>151498169
I think it's how the AI controls them, they never let up with the cycle charges and they never go for anything other than the units you don't want them to be hitting.

The same goes for the vamps bats. They're complete horse shit in a fight but you always get "LEL I'M ONE UNIT BUT I'M STILL TYING UP 3 HAND GUNNERS AND YOUR MORTAR SOME HOW"
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>>151499616
All of that is good though imo. When it come to AI that is.
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>>151499154
CA will deliver, right
Especially after we memed on them with charlejabbers
R-right?
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>>151499321

>Dwarfs really are a "No fun" faction though.

Tell me about it.
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>>151500158
>close defeat
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>>151499616

Yeah, say what you want about the AI but I think it's the best so far in any Total War game. It handles cavalry like a fucking boss, constantly cycle charging and always aiming for your most vulnerable unit. Even if you leave a guard behind for your artillery they will find a way around.
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>>151500271

Oh man, you have no idea how close it was. It was the enemy lord vs five units, 3 gobbos archers and 2 boar boys. I was charging the lord constantly with my arty with my gobbos shooting at him. I was hovering around 10-15 leadership for what remained of my army, and I didn't even manage to kill the fucker. He routed at the very single last moment.

I have no idea what happened in that battle. It was that army with boys as well as a garrison. I surrounded the dorfs easily and yet they absolutely refused to break, and I ended up with a mass route halfway into the battle. The only thing saving me was my cavalry.

I'm using the Extended Skills mod though, so their lord was a badass in terms of stats.
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>>151500479
Probably friendly fire.
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>>151488645
>iPad
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Are Cygors the best artillery? They seem to do tons of damage compared to other
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>>151488645
That music shits all over Beddow's work in R2 and half of Attila's OST
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>>151500576

Archers don't shoot if there's a chance of friendly fire.

So no, those dorf warriors were so fucking badass they soloed several orc boys at once.

Shit's insane, And they refused to break. Absolutely refused to break. They have units with only 1 or 2 models left wandering around.

>>151500676

Doom Divers.

Best artillery in the game.
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>>151500676
They do not scale with unit size, most artillery does
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>>151499553
it's not even that, just mechanically. Like they're built like tanks AND have super morale. like even the vampire counts which have no routing still suffer from weak troops/crumbling.

With the Dwarfs even if you can kill their monster of a lord, the army will stick around and keep fighting for a long time.
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>>151500792
>Archers don't shoot if there's a chance of friendly fire.
No, they don't shoot if there's 50+% of friendly fire. If more of their arrows hit the enemy than you, they will fire.
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>>151500708

I can never listen to R1's soundtrack again. There's a part where you have women singing and their english accent can't pronounce the letter R, which makes sound incredibly bad.
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>>151500918
Sounds like Romans in Rome 2
>Disciplined out the ass
>infinite fucking armor
>infinite fucking morale
>still hits like a truck
And god fucking help you if you wanted to kill Triarii in square formation those fuckers just did NOT die in early game
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>>151500985
AUTISM
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>>151498169
Just tested this

Doggos wipe out 30 empire swordsmen in 1 charge frontally and barely take any losses and they can pull back and do it again no problem
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>>151500792
They don't shoot if their view is completely obstructed by friendlies you fucking moron. They don't have 100% accuracy. Friendly fire still occurs.
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>>151501054
>unironically saying things about rome 2
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>>151500276
>>151499918
Don't get me wrong, i do love that it does this. But i fucking hate it when i'm trying to put a plan into motion.

It's a mixed feeling.
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>>151501112
>play Rome 2 Iceni
>enemy routs
>chase down enemy with chariots, enjoying muh killcounts
>suddenly general ded from a stray sling
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>>151501245
They're the ones that fit the bill best as far as being tanky monsters that never rout go.
Also fuck off there's no rule that says we can't talk about R2.
Asanagi should be /twg/'s patron hentai artist desu
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>>151501303
>play rome 2
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>>151501245
Epic
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>>151501405
? How about RTW where Romans are so ridiculously OP because the other factions simply aren't as fleshed out? Over we like to pretend the abortion that was Rome 2 never happened.
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>>151501412
>I didn't play the game at all
>I didn't at least try half a campaign Emperor Edition
If you didn't play the game what right do you have to comment on it besides meme value?
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>>151501112
>>151500931
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>>151500676
They're very good for a single unit, but there is only one of them per slot.

Considering most other forms of arty get 3-4 units.
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>>151501405
Asanagi is shit, fatalpulse would make more sense
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>>151501513
>Over we like to pretend the abortion that was Rome 2 never happened.
No we fucking don't, we simply shit on it.
>implying EE didn't fix most of the issues besides the politics
Also from the bingos people post, it feels like a good fraction of people never played Rome 1 and anyone who started with WH likely is more familiar with R2 than R1.

>>151501561
>Fatalpulse is better than Asanagi
Is this some meta-joke? What the fuck?
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>>151501054
Pretty much. It wouldn't be so bad if the unit sizes compensated accurately for the power difference but really they don't.

At least in Rome 1 the barbs got that numbers game going on.
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>>151501669
>there are people in here right now who have never played RTW and started with TWWH
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>>151501686
I'm not a fan of unit numbers being smaller if the unit itself doesn't imply that, just make them more expensive. It makes sense if it's shit like I dunno the Herculiani Seniores in Attila or trolls in WH, since the first was only ever about 1000 dudes total while the second are rare because they're trolls.

>>151501772
There's an incredible number of them. I'm not one, by the way.
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>>151501772
A sad state of affairs isn't it?
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>>151499154
I could do it for about two charlemagnes
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>>151501772
>There are people that started with Rome 2 and said "NEVER AGAIN CA"

The worst.
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>>151500893
How do you change unit size and what's the point?
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>>151501772
So /twg/, what TW games have you played?
Me: Shogun, Medieval, Rome, Medieval 2, took a break, Warhammer, Shogun 2
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>>151502047
Rome.. and that's it.
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>>151502012
More like
>there are people who loved RTW so much and got burnt like a jew in auschwitz and vowed never again to give money to CA
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>>151502047
M1; R1; M2; Empire, said fuck it to Napoleon after it; S2; R2; Attila (right before Charlie); not WH.
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>>151502047
warhammer.. that's it. other titles look boring af
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>>151502047
Rome 1, 12 year break, Warhammer. Getting into Attila now.
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>>151499154
>>151501978
Fair points, but what I actually had in mind is that the skelly had to be literally glues with Khalida's fanboys semen to that snake thing to be of any use.
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>>151502209
dude lmao like fuck history amirite haha xD :^) have a like :DD
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>>151501863
No I agree, it's just always frustrated me when playing horde factions and I'm only just barely out numbering the other side. it just feels wrong.

THAT SAID it is fine in most cases it's just the Dwarf/Roman like factions that always break it.
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>>151502250
why are history fans so annoying? can't you accept thay people have different tastes?
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>>151492582
That's still not retro you dumbfuck.

>what are 70's arcades
>what is Atari
>what is NES
>what is SNES
>what is N64/PSX
That is retro.

Rome plays and looks like a modern game.

Try watching AVGN you retard?w
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>>151502209
You should definitely try out Fall of the Samurai for something different.

Or Rome 1 for more fantasy
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>>151502047
everything post med2, including med2 obviously
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>>151502047
Just RTW, with tons of mods.

And a little bit of MTW.
I like MTW but the campaign "chess board" mechanic just kills it for me.
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>>151502293
Horde factions need the Ork WAAGH mechanic to represent basically the non-regular-combatants joining in. You should probably be able to control when they spawn though, so like a tick-box that lets to sacrifice population to get reinforcements in the form of a peasant horde.
>playing FotE
>roman garrisons are holy fuckhueg (we're talking like 6-10 units without the garrison building)
End it.
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>>151502346
>look at unit list
>they're all LITERALLY the same

uh... no.
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>>151502047
Everything after M2 including M2.
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>>151502047
All of them + all expansions
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Does Warhammer use Vulkan? I was looking at some DOOM benchmarks, and I have to say that it's surprising how the R9 holds up to the new Nvidia cards
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>>151502047
Rome 1, Shogun II, Rome II, Attila(bearly), And warhammer.
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>>151502047
Rome 2 and warhammer. Tried a little Shogun 2 but it left a bad taste in my mouth. Medieval 2 was even worse.
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>>151502047
Rome Total War, Rome 2, medieval 2, Shogun 2, Attila.

Once my computer is up again, Warhammer.
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>>151502473
>literally
Triarii and Princepes aren't the [literally] the same, so you're retarded.
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>>151502663
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>>151502693
I'm talking about fall of the samurai. They're all the same. rome is probably all boring sword and spear shit anyway.
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>>151488946
A best
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>>151502464
Or hell even just having low upkeep for the shit tier units like GOBLINS or Orc boys so you can at least have armies shadow each other with support.

I mean Empire spears are only like 30 or 50 upkeep aren't they? And a Goblin unit is 80?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkgZZ1CuoxE

>still the best intro
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>>151502047
Shogun, Medieval 1 & 2, Shogun 2, Rome 2, Attila, Warhammer.
I'm about to go and play some Napoleon though.
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>>151502047
heh, ALL of them of course, including the super secret one that only oldfags like me would know. I'm a true total war veteran.
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>>151490856
What?
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>>151502047
Shogun, Medieval, Rome, Shogun 2, Medieval 2, Warhammer.

Might play Rome 2 at some point, Nap and Empire don't interest me at all.
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>>151502569
No, the first one I heard about was Shogun actually. I really wanted to played it, finally got a demo but it didn't work for whatever reason. I was too young to figure out why though, so after exhausting every option I had at the time (turning my PC off and letting it rest, reinstalling the game while praying, trying to update software blindly) I finally surrendered and just looked at the pictures. Damn I wanted to play that game so much.

I didn't know about R1 and M1 (for a long time I thought R1 was the first game in the series) and only when M2 released, I got into the series (and yet I still suck at it). I even went as far and buy the collector's edition of Empire because it was my favorite period and had those glorious naval battles (I like age of sail).

Good times, pls subscribe to my blog, thx.
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>>151502047
All of them except Warhammer
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>>151502874
I always thought Barbarian Invasion had a nice intro.

It felt sad and dark.
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>>151502663
Shogun 2 do got the best matched combat charge desu. It's only game where matched combat charge animations happens when two units are charging each other(Rome 2 and Attila only have it for when a unit is charging a stationary unit).

I guess they bug out on terrain like that though.
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>>151498169
Only used the poison dogs during a Beastmen campaign. They got a surprising amount of kills with less losses than I expected, even discounting the kills made during a complete rout.
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>>151501669
excuse me but has EE fixed

>the piß filter
>unit weightlessness
>naval battles
>1v1
>roman flags in settlements owned by other factions
>family tree
>amphibious landings
>rollerskates
>mark strong
>unique faction advisors
>trade
>the building system
>imperium
>army limit
>army led by generals
>cavalry
>missiles
>functional siege AI
>and many more..

https://youtube.com/watch?v=DLmWrE1gZis
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>>151503363
That video is pretty outdated desu.
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>>151503694
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dy5GRaHzFnI

>rome drones will defend this
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>>151502864
>And a Goblin unit is 80?
>80
Fucking hell, I can get a unit of minotaurs for that upkeep.
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>>151503363
It hasn't. Rome 2 is too bad to fix. Everyone should just stick to the classics and play Shogun 2.
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>>151503761
You mean Rome2 drones.
Everyone knows 2 is shit.
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>>151502864
empire spears without shields are like 75 reiksmarks while the shielded ones are 100.
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>>151472063
Rollong
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>>151503781
Wait, never mind. GW minotaurs are 60 a unit, shield minotaurs 68.
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>>151502874
>>151503226
>waiting for Rise of Persia v3 to be released
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>>151502874
>best intro
>imblyign

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMK-zbBLIQk
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>>151503798
You tell them teethman
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>>151504023
Oh good so they're even more useless.

You know, I think I'm starting to see what one of the Orc's issues may be...
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>>151504334
It's shit. Any mod that claims to have "improved", "proper" or "better" somethings that someone who was actually paid to make is blowing shit out their ass.
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>>151501772
there are people in here right now who didn't start with S1TW

Fuck, I want to make a S1 webm now
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>>151504419
Play radious if you want factions with no weaknesses then. Why should your own units be paid according to how much your enemy pays theirs? They're not even the same race. You're retarded and have no valid criticism of the game.
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>>151502663
that is the least satisfying charge i've ever seen
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>>151502047
Rome I, Shogun II and Warhammer
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>>151504634
>>>/vr/
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>>151504758
You picked only good ones at least. I recommend Attila. It's pretty challenging.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMhVh6edP_k

Rate this charge /twg/
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>>151504881
>attila
>good

lmao
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>>151502874
Honestly I really like the Total War Warhammer one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i4d3ignBNQ

Before they fucked it up with that shitty new voice over
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>>151504991
Why the fuck did they change that fantastic voice actor to some retarded woman who doesn't even sound the part?
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>>151504939
Are you from some mirror universe where Attila wasn't the best TW game up to date? Or just some MedII nostalgia fag?
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>>151504634
I still remember my first battle against overwhelming odds. I managed to win it using the terrain and it made me feel like a military genius.
Also the box looked pretty damn good on my shelf. (the one with the stylized kabuto and menpo)
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>>151474221
12 pounder is more accurate, and faster, faster being relative as far as artillery is concerned
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>>151504991
Why are modern voice actors so cringey?

It's all so pretentious
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>>151505079
I'd really love to hear from CA why they did this. because honestly way to fucking ruin a amazing delivery.
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>>151505107
Yeah, so excited to play famous factions such as the.. jutes... or the uh... emos and goths.
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>>151505362
Seriously the woman sounds like an amateur pornstar trying to sound dominant while failing terribly.
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>>151505107
>Warscape shit
>good

Are you really baiting this hard?
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>>151502663
I should make a Shogun 1 version of these webms

This will be the first of many
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>>151505107
>It's the "Attila is the best Total War to date" meme again
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>>151505508
Rome 1 is the only well made game for the other 3D engine so it's not like that one has such a good track record. The other game is some outsourced australian mess.
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>>151505107
Call me when they fix the piss filter, sieges being easy as fuck, imperium and the gamey army/general limit.
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>>151505668
>Attila
>Piss filter
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>>151505796
doom filter or whatever you want to call it then. All I know is that they replaced one shit filter with another.
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>>151505668
It's always hilarious Warscape shitters never seem to realize how ugly their game looks. Soldiers look like hunchbacks, with retarded faces.

Warscape games have this retarded fog and bloom puke colors. Everything looks depressing.

Medieval 2 looks too bright and vibrant.

Rome1 and Medieval1 have the correct authentic atmospheres.

R1 had alot of historical inaccuracies but that can easily be fixed with mods, which is why Europa Barbarorum is the best game in the entire franchise.
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I never understood why Attila got a pass.

It just seemed kinda shitty.
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>>151505964
EB was a masterpiece. Probably the best mod for any game ever. Shame nobody plays it these days.
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>>151506046
It was simply less shitty than R2
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>>151505964
Medieval 2 got hunchbacks too though and the faces look even more retarded. Attila plays way better than medieval 2 so that makes it more enjoyable imo. Also I like the atmosphere.
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>>151506046
Just shills trying to salvage CA's rep in preparation for the TWWH launch.
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>>151505572
wow, nice graphics
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>everyone complains about warscape
>literally less than 1% of the posts are about non-warscape games
?
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>>151506046
The gameplay was a huge step up from Rome II.

That said it's literally just what Rome II should have been but with a more hipster setting so people give it a pass for being "original"

Even though it's unoptimized as all hell with tedious campaign mechanics.
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>>151506190
There's no fucking atmosphere to speak of in Attila. Everything from the vomit inducing modern looking UI to the gamey building mechanics and agents. It's as if everything's designed to take you out of your immersion.
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>>151506069
Then fucking post it then. If you even play it yourself.

>everyone complains about warscape

It's just a sudden outburst for some reason.
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>>151506327
What the hell? Do you have it on low or something? It looks fine IMO. Sieges with some siege escelation looks great.
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>A-atilla is good!

>literally the most uninteresting time period in history
>runs on an engine meant for musket warfare

Attila shills please go.

If you want to play as migration horse fuckers or proto French/English, play BI.
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>>151506046
I never understood why it's hated
Sure, it's got issues. But literally every TW has glaring issues. It's pretty retarded of some people to say that M2 and R1 with their at times abysmal path-finding and responsiveness are some of the best games in the franchise and then not give Attila a pass.

I'd say it's probably top 3 in terms of unmodded Total War games, competing mostly with Shogun 2. Haven't played Warhammer yet so I can't comment on it.
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>>151506261
This is literally the power of memes.
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>>151506502
Can you read? I'm talking about design choices. The 1v1 crap and hunchedback soldiers aren't anything to brag about however.
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>>151504991
this one was fucking glorious, on par with Mark of Chaos opening

that is before they ruined it with the shitty voice acting
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>>151505375
>>151506568
>IT DOESN'T HAVE MUH EPIC SPARTANS
Attila haters confirmed for 10 year olds
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>>151506327
>vomit inducing modern looking UI
If you think that's bad, you should let Rome 1 and Medieval 2's absolutely disgusting UI give you some perspective.
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>>151506574
Uh, maybe because it's not 10 fucking years old? Do you think it's acceptable for CA to go backwards?
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>>151506568
>collapse of the second most influential empire in history
>period which laid the ground-works for modern western European states
>Huns
>Byzantine-Sassanid wars
>rise of Islam
you can only say this is an uninteresting period if you know nothing about history
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>>151506652
>Can you read? I'm talking about design choices.

The atmosphere part is pretty much subjective.

>The 1v1 crap.

Attila toned down 1v1 stuff heavily though.
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>>151506785
You're putting some funny words in my mouth. How did CA go backwards?
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>>151506748
There's nothing wrong with the UI of RTW/M2. They blend into the game perfectly.
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>>151506574
To be fair Rome 1 and ME 2 have the benefits of being the grandfathers of the series. Mean while Attila came out very recently and gets out done by the previous titles in the series.

Plus to be honest the setting might be interesting in terms of history but in terms of a total war game it's pretty bland.
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>>151506940
Funny joke anon.
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>>151506785
Medieval 2 is basically going backwards from rome 1 for a lot of things though

>>151506940
The m2 might fit but it's not really pretty to look at.
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>>151506742
>literally "Who?" factions that nobody has ever heard about
>collection of tribes that vanished into thin air a couple centuries later

The migration period was shit.

The only thing that keeps it up is WRE, ERE, Sassanids and Christianity.

Europe didn't become interesting until around 800 AD and the early middle ages.
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>>151506997
>Mean while Attila came out very recently and gets out done by the previous titles in the series.
you mean literally every modern total war game?
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>>151506912
>limiting armies
>general led requirement
>limiting building choices
>the province system
>gamey edicts and agents
>1v1
>rollerskates
>pissfilter
>uninteresting factions

If I listed every flaw with the game I'll be here all day.
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>>151507124
>general led requirements

I miss being able to shuffle garrisons around and have trains of reinforcements following my main force.
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>>151507076
I mean pretty much. But I think it's more because it seems to get shilled a lot as being "THE BEST IN THE SERIES" when really it's just a solid entry.
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>>151507228
>i miss the game being easy
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>>151507050
>Franks, formed France and the Holy Roman Empire
>Saxons and Angles, formed England
>Visigoths, formed Asturias, predecessor state to Spain and began the Reconquista
>Lombards, formed Italy
i could go on
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>>151507124
last warning bud
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>>151507050
t. murican
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>>151507272
Your point? All that does is make me wish the game is set later.
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>>151507307
>Memeing
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>>151507272
In other words, chaotic tribes that have yet to find their footing.

Which is why I said that Europe became interesting around the time of Charlemagne.

The migration period was a time of transition, it was shit for everyone except ERE and Persia.
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>>151507124
Limiting armies is better than chasing tons of small stacks desu.

Edicts is such a non-issue holy shit.

Attila doesn't relay on 1v1. It's pretty much a bonus like in medieval 2.

The filter thing is subjective as hell.

Uninteresting factions is also subjective as hell. It's not like medieval 2 has a lot of diverse and interesting factions.

The better unit responsiveness gives this game a huge edge over some of the older total war games imo.
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>>151507269
>artifical constraints for no reason

Yeah, that's much better
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The fact that Tomb Kings are a DLC is worrying me in terms of how fleshed out the whole region will be. There's a lot of cool sit in Araby and there is a chunk of the Southlands on the map too.

It's not like they're going to start off the Tomb Kings with control of the entire region, so who will they be fighting? Traitors? Nagash supporters? Humans in the area? Orcs?
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>>151507412
>>151507428
>literally "Who?" factions that nobody has ever heard about
>collection of tribes that vanished into thin air a couple centuries later
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>>151505964
>Everything looks depressing.
Shogun 2 looked anything but depressing. It was all cherry blossoms, bright days, and sunsets that poets write about.
Can't argue with Rome 2 and Attila though.
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>>151507428
>>151507272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7HUBW3JgRA
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>>151507427
Yes I recognize your long list of memes from 2 year ago.
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>>151507551
Small stacks aren't even an issue. They represent small bands of roaming outlaws who would obviously run from a full fledged army but retards like you had it taken out. Thanks for that.
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>>151507663
>Frenchaboo

Someone quick, post the longbow!
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>>151507801
>Franks
>French
cmon
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>>151507747
That might be but it's such a small thing anyway. It doesn't make the game. It's also moddable.

Unit types outright not working and bad unit responsiveness is a way bigger issue.
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>>151507801
excuse me but who won the hundred years war again?
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>>151503363
>the building system
>imperium
>army limit
>army led by generals
These are all in Attila and WH too though...

>naval
What the fuck do you want? Naval battles during that time were as much of a clusterfuck as they are in R2

>cav
>missiles
What's wrong with this?
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>>151507978
>took 100 years just to get the country back after surrendering like 3 times
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>>151507973
You can't mod the army limit away you stupid moron. You also can't mod away the requirement to have a general lead the army.
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>>151507124
>limiting armies
Design choie
>general led requirement
Design choice
>limiting building choices
Design choice (fuck having to think and plan, right?)
>the province system
Design choice
>gamey edicts and agents
Design choice
>1v1
>rollerskates
Now these are actually backwards. They actually fixed the dueling thing though.
>pissfilter
>uninteresting factions
Subjective. Certainly no less interesting than Shogun with its arr rook the same.

I actually agree with you on a lot of these being bad design choices. But they're not actually going backwards, they're trying things you don't like.

At the end of the day the issues with Attila are generally pretty superficial and subjective while Medieval 2 has atrocious shit like only the front row of your units doing anything when you're trying to get the whole unit to charge.
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>>151508083
Are you going to answer me? Who won the hundred years war?
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Why are the Brits so jealous at France?

Is it because they have hotter women?
Is it because they aren't island locked?
Is it because they have a more victorious history?
Is it because they have white teeth?
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>>151507124
>Edicts
What the fuck is wrong with Edicts?

>1v1
Literally not something that affects combat and it gots toned down as hell

>filter
This is subjective.

>uninteresting factions
Because M2 is full of interesting and diverse factions right
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>>151508094
>You can't mod the army limit away you stupid moron

Wot. You can at least up it to 99 or something.

Either way these two things aren't really big issues. It's not hard to ignore them if you can ignore bad unit responsiveness and so on.
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>>151508207
???
having bad design choices is going backwards.
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>>151508231
I think both countries are too busy sniffing their own assholes to be jealous of each other
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>>151508226
the Jews
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>>151508354
They are superior design choices though.
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>>151508231
>more victorious history
>WW2
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>>151502047
Shogun 2, years ago, was technically my first, but I had to instantly drop it, since it ran at like 10 fps on minimal settings.
Tried to get into Attila, but it didn't quite click with me.
Only got into Warhams thanks to actually different factions, I think. It's also the first TW that doesn't run like fucking garbage for me.
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>>151508406
You're wrong, France won. Kicked the English off French soil back to their smelly inselaffen island.
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>>151508231
t. youtube comments on a historical video
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>>151508354
Med II is almost literally unplayable in vanilla so that should say something.

>>151508431
I disagree on many of those design choices. Limited buildings and general-led armies, in particular, since apparently Rome must choose between a barracks and a coliseum.
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>>151508231
>he's still an EUcuck
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>>151508431
You have shit taste, ever considered that?

I mean, you just admitted to liking brownbloom puke colours.
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>>151508623
Not him but if you think Med 2 looks good you need your eyes checked. Just for one, the fucking disgusting UI with stretched-out text.
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>>151508530
>le m2 is glitchy meme

Oh I can't wait to see cherry picked webms of him ordering pikemen to attack or the like.
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>>151508501
>600 years later
>still haven't managed to reconquer all of their own country
at least they tried
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>>151508693
Med 2 is too bright but that can be fixed with mods or settings.

Warscape games on the other hand, are stuck with a syrup/watery engine.
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>>151508608

>tfw a holiday in the UK gets cheaper and cheaper


I hope it goes well with you guys though.
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>>151508702
Well I guess the game isn't buggy then because you put le in front of it. Thanks for clearing that up.
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>>151508702
>cherry picked
Have you actually played the game or not, because for as good as the game may be when modded it's buggy as fuck in vanilla.

>pikemen
Well shit son that's one of the biggest problems right there.

>>151508812
Yeah and M2's pathfinding is eternally fucking borked. Face it, it's not a perfect game. Attila isn't either, by the way.
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>>151508354
Are they really bad though? For one they make the campaign gameplay a lot more interesting. You can't just build every single building and you get to manage things like edicts.

I wish they'd go the more historical and less arbitrary gamey route, but trying new things isn't going backwards.

>>151508801
I'm not sure those islands have ever really been French.
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>>151508207
Poor ashigaru, should've let them use shields.
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>>151508857
Explain to me how the game is buggy.

>b-but my troops don't instantly react on rollerskates when I order them to move!
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>>151508702
You are delusional. Almost every fucking battle(EVERY siege) got issues with unit responsiveness and units in general.
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>>151508812
What the fuck does that even mean? How can an engine be syrup? How can an engine be watery?
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Warscape worked for Empire and Napoleon.

But using it for Rome 2 was a terrible mistake, just look at the launch disaster with all the bugs and glitches. It feels off.

They should have used a new engine or used the 3D engine but with higher quality textures.
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>>151508951
To be honest I don't like the fact you can't build every single building. There is no reason you shouldn't be able to given you have enough money. Maybe costs keep rising for every one over the 5th / 3rd / 3rd or some shit but fuck having to choose between a wine market or a library for Constantinople.
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>>151508992
It looks like it's covered in a layer of vaseline or piss.
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>>151508951
They were French for 133 years.
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>>151508968
The shitty unit responsiveness is not a design choice though. Rome 1 had way better responsiveness.

>Warscape worked for Empire

Not really. Probably the least well made total war game.
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>>151508992
Have you ever looked at a Rome2/Attila screenshot in your life?

Look at the jagged lines, fog, bloom and filters. These games look awful.
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>>151509104
Pics? I have yet to experience such a phenomenon.
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>>151508968
>my troops don't react...when I order them to move
Is this not considered buggy behavior now? Your soldiers can arbitrarily decide they have bad feels and wait ten seconds before moving? Pikemen simply not working and cavalry therefore being even MORE overpowered than you'd expect isn't buggy?
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>>151508801
Real life isn't a total war game dumb fuck. There's nothing of interest to the french there. The only reason why countries want small islands is because they can claim a large area of water around it. The french have no business in the English channel anyway.
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>>151509326
/gsg/ would throw a fit
muh aesthetic borders
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Britcucks, how does it feel that you're a French colony?

William the Conqueror ;)
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>>151509326
>we failed because life is not a video-game
if it makes you feel better
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>>151509237
>Tell crossbowmen to get moving
>Nope have to finish the reload and fire animation first.

Hell on earth.
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>>151509237
They don't react instantly because it's supposed to simulate them receiving orders and they have weight. Also pikemen work perfectly. You probably ordered them to go on the offense or didn't turn on guard mode. Also RTW is on the same engine as M2 so your argument makes no sense.
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>>151509407
>Normans
>French
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>>151508968

I agree, it wasnt buggy at all

webm related shows the soldiers were smart enough to back out from a suicide charge

The M2 engine was truly ahead of its time
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>>151509502
>They don't react instantly because it's supposed to simulate them receiving orders and they have weight. Also pikemen work perfectly.


Now it seems you are just falseflagging
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>>151509534
>Frankish tribe
>located in Gaul, modern-day France
>ethnically French

>not French

Whatever you say, John Wycliffe Smith.
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>>151509485
>load crossbow halfway
>commander tell you to stop and pull back
>tell him to fuck off and continue loading so you can at least get one shot at the inselaffen

But of course this is ridiculous, everything needs to be soulless and mechanical where everyone obeys your order to a T, just like in real life (that was sarcasm).
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>>151509673
>Normans
>Franks
yes, i remember those Nordic Franks who sailed from Norway in the 9th century and settled Normandy
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>>151509661
Explain to me how pikes are fucked up without your incompetence.
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>attilafags are unironically defending casual arcade gameplay

>attilafags are attacking realism and accurate army movement

It all makes sense now.
Warscape shitters are 12 years old.
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>>151509502
>They don't react instantly because it's supposed to simulate them receiving orders
Like fucking hell it is why doesn't it simulate the fact that the general isn't a huge face floating in the sky then and limit me to Legendary 200-meter-radius ordering ability?

>they have weight
Does it take you ten seconds to start fucking walking?

>pikemen work perfectly
They don't though. And there's literally no reason pikemen can't attack - this is one of the things Attila / R2 / MAYBE Shogun 2 if you count Longspears as pikemen did much better, they just walk slowly up to the enemy and start pushing.

>RTW
>implying RTW had good pathfinding

I'm not fucking saying Warscape is perfect but if you're pretending Attila has nothing over M2, you're fucking retarded.

>>151509680
>tell him to fuck off
His head will roll then wouldn't it? You do fucking realize that the military literally operates off people learning to take orders and not question those orders?
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>>151509502
>Also RTW is on the same engine as M2 so your argument makes no sense.


But Rome 1 doesn't have a lot of the issues that medieval 2 has though. It got way better unit responsiveness and all the unit types work well

>>151509810
They drop their pikes too fast and then they get slaughtered. Guard mode doesn't help. It only makes them do no fucking damage.
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>>151509864
>realism
In Med 2 your general can literally pull a Lu Bu with the right traits. This is now realistic?

>accurate army movement
If we were going for accuracy, people simply wouldn't even be able to give more than the most basic of orders once battle started.
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>>151509680
>>tell him to fuck off and continue loading so you can at least get one shot at the inselaffen

They don't get a one last shot though. They do the fire animation but they don't release any bolts. They even have to do the reload animation again if you tell them to fire.


>>151509864
>realism and accurate army movement


This is getting fucking ridiculous. Something tells me all of this is just to make medieval 2 fans look bad.
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>>151510090
You can do that, it's called Restrict Camera to General.
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>>151509887
It's still a fucking video game. You can imagine you are god giving divine instructions directly to the unit officers if you want.

>does it take 10 seconds to start walking
The game doesn't nearly delay orders that long but certainly orders don't go out instantly.

>there's no reason why pikemen can't attack
>walk backwards

gg no re

also
>implying discipline in medieval armies
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Did you people really get baited by slavposter tier bait
Come on now
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>>151509864
i swear it's just this one guy sperging about warscape

you realise the vast majority of people are not autistic enough to be vehemently passionate about a fucking video-game engine one way or the other? the fact you feel as though there are a dedicated force of people that go around shilling for an engine is amazing
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I'm just thankful mods remove the secondary weapons from pikemen so they work to some extent.

Fucking CA Brisbane Aussies made a shitpost of a game but at least they left it up to modders to make it good
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>>151510358
Why the fuck are you even here if you're not even passionate about the game? Get out of here casual scum. You're ruining the series for the REAL fans.
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>>151510323
Worse it's artificial mass tier bait.
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>>151510323
Not bad enough english. Pretty certain it's some kind of trolling though.
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>>151510304
>it's still a fucking video game
Which is exactly fucking why there is no good reason to simulate annoying bullshit like a random timer for orders. Rome 1 didn't have that, for example.

>>151510358
I don't even care about warscape or whatnot
I'm just mad at what insane lengths this M2 shill will go to defend the broken parts of an otherwise good game. It's not like I hate the game but sometimes shit doesn't work and you have to admit it.
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>>151509864
>"casual" arcade gameplay
>realism and accurate army movement
This has to be a joke
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>>151510450
They don't fucking work if you remove their secondaries, they become overpowered and unbreakable. You faggots think you know better but you're just fucking with good design choices.
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>>151510323
pic related

>>151510358
More like you have shit taste and people are calling you out on it.

Attila/R2 look disgusting, the graphics are ruined thanks to CoD-tier filters.
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What's the point of reinforcement when they spawn so far away the battle is over before they get there?
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>>151510323
Slavposter's bait was pretty effective though
I was actually mad enough to feel physically sick for a while the first time he spammed.

>>151510496
We used to call trolling "reverse baiting".
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>>151510323
It's something you would probably find on TWC or something Legend of Total War would say about medieval 2.
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>>151486326
roll
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>>151510601
>>151510456
this is the first time i've posted about this topic in the thread. i actually prefer posting about the games rather than shitting up the thread with rage about engines.
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>>151510621
You'll understand when you fight on even terms.
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/twg/, why do you think CA still hasn't replaced warscape yet?
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>>151508442
>history begins in the XXth century
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>>151510669
He went really far with the shitposting though. Like he had no life at all.

>tfw you will never go that far.

Feels good.
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>>151510601
I don't think someone who's Chinese and doesn't recognize the Japanese as having any significant original culture outside of anime and 2ch memes can be qualified as Weeaboo desu lad.

>>151510621
Just wait until an ally reinforces you in battle.
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>>151510705
So you're new. What makes you think your opinion matters? Leave the talking to the adults, the real veterans of the series.
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>>151510853
because it's a good engine and they should continue to not listen to crying manchildren
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>>151510853
The cost probably. Warhammer works fine with it anyway so it may be improved upon a lot.
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>>151510893
Chinks aren't japs you stupid fuck. If anything it's even worse because japs committed worse atrocities against us. Fucking race traitor you are.
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>>151510912
this discussion amounts to:
>this engine is good
>no this engine is bad
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>>151510853
They're lazy.

Why be creative when you can just make soulless cash-grabs like a Napoleon game with Rome skins?

/twg/ eats it up because there's so many Reddit casuals that have taken over this place.

I have still yet to find a defense for the atrocious Warscape brownbloom puke graphics.
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>>151510997
Nah it's kind of outdated, honestly. It's olde. They should make a new engine.
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>>151510853

it provides high quality banter
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>>151510853
Because doing so would be a gigantic cost/time sink with questionable pay off.
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>>151510997
>warscape
>good engine

2/10 for making me reply

no seriously, it's an embarassment that Rome still looks better than the latest TW game.
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>>151511057
>le reddit meme

How many of you can honestly say you've never browsed reddit? It's called the front page of the Internet, it's impossible not to.
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>>151511081
It doesn't matter if it's old. Despite what you may think, code doesn't have an expiration date on it.
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>>151511049
>Chinks aren't Japs
Yeah they aren't, because they copied us wholesale before around Ming.

>atrocities
Essentially everyone who committed them are dead as are everyone who suffered through that time period. Don't be a fucking Jew who can't move past shit that happened 70 years ago

>h-haha it didn't affect you
My grandfather was a one-arm cripple until he died when I was 19 so fuck you.

>race traitor meme
Kill yourself
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>>151510997
it's really old though, way older than the average lifespan for an engine, you need to eventually replace it if you want to match your contemporaries
but that might be the problem, total war doesn't really have any competition in its niche, that's probably why they can keep feeding an outdated engine to their fans
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The problem with Rome 2 is that it always looks like dusk.

>the sun is setting
Every single screenshot.
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>>151511312
i'll occasionally google something and the most relevant thing will be a reddit link but otherwise no.
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>>151511336
>japs denying and washing their hands of all responsibility for war crimes
>b-but the affected are dead

yeah but the fucking japs aren't. It's scary how long those creatures live. One can only take solace in the fact that they're slowly going extinct.
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>>151511312
Oh shit I remember this bait
How is this? I've legit never gone on reddit unless it was from google or something

>>151511405
No it doesn't, it either looks like it's dusk and you can't see anything or it looks like high noon and the bloom hurts your eyes.
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>>151511337
How long is that average lifespan? Can you even name a single issue with the engine? And no, "it's old" is not an issue.
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>>151496581
>The good is what is lore accurate, not strong and balanced units for everyone. CA does not see beyond this simple morality, but Radious does.
But Radious is extremely unbalanced in the player's favor.
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>>151511513
>he hates reddit and claims never to browse it
>still went there at least once today

ok
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>>151511613
It's a joke pasta.
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>>151511496
Kill yourself, you are everything wrong with our country. Do you think the grandson somehow bears the sins of the grandfather?

>>151511572
Not him, but 'it could be better' is always a valid thing to say. Also it has a weird way of considering every individual member of the unit only as part of a unit, so say if one unit is stuck in melee, the other 119 cavalry can't charge anyway they just sort of turn around and walk into the fight.
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>>151504536
I do like the slower pace of combat though.
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>>151511336
hello citizen i hope you're not browsing banned dissident websites by circumnavigating our protection devices. it's for your own good.
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>>151511613
>being this new
baka desu senpai
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Is there a mod for them?
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So it's settled, we all agree that warscape games look ugly due to brownbloom filters.

End of discussion.

Remember to hide attila shitposters.
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Am I the only one who can't access the workshop?
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>>151511684
Please, I'm not a mainlander. The japs and commies sure fucked them up good. Imagine if the germans started denying the holocaust and offered no apologies. Where is the lesson learned? They'll just do it again. After all japs have no souls.
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>>151511782
Just give up
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>>151511662
Do you not know how firefox history search works
It searches all of your history, it's actually impossible to sort it by time.

>>151511767
4chan isn't banned though. Neither is sadpanda. Might want to get on that, if you feel like it, although I'm sure sadpanda remains unblocked for...private observation.

>>151511857
They literally can't do it again though, and apologies are worthless as they are nothing more than scrap of paper. It's not like we haven't had prominent members of Japan express regret, it's literally just fucking Abe aka "America's bitch".
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>>151511782
>brownbloom filters
??
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>>151509502
>They don't react instantly because it's supposed to simulate them receiving orders
Fields of Glory did that better. In TW I often feel it's because one men out of the whole unit is off picking flowers or stuck in combat while the rest of his mates are a mile away.
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>>151512013
in jap history books it's taught that jap dindu nuffin rong and atom bomb was worse than holocaust and was uncalled for.
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>>151512137
And any nip with half a brain knows that it's not true.
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>>151512137
That's not even true
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>>151512206
Yeah, too bad japs don't have any huh? Theirs is a savage and degenerative culture.
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>>151508442
>we fucked over our allies and stayed on our piss filled island: the war
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>>151512307
Their culture is literally just a modified version of OUR imperial culture.
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>Bretonnia by Prater still doesn't work
The only Bretonnian mod worth a shit and the modder is apparently a retard
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>>151511572
easy, units don't have real collision, look at Rome 2 pre emperor every clash between infantry made both armies collapse into each other, so they have to fake it
units always have to duel 1v1(wasn't like that in previous TWs, multiple units could group up on one enemy)
units can only win a duel with a killing move, which makes everything seem very wooden and fake
the engine was intended for firearms based combat, not for melee combat, so it's unoptimised for most TWs that have come out after empire, which is dumb as hell

It's unoptimised for current tech and can't make the most out of it, graphical fidelity wise and performance wise

and like>>151511684 said 'it could be better' is also an argument. Sticking with an unoptimised outdated engine(or anything else for that matter) because there is next to no competition is an unhealthy business practice
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>>151512320
>waa we couldn't defend our own country and Britain needs to save us again ;( ;(
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>>151510090
>In Med 2 your general can literally pull a Lu Bu with the right traits. This is now realistic?
You're saying Lu Bu is not realistic?
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>>151512354
Their culture is one built on perversion and genocide.
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>>151512475
t. korean
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>>151512460
He's realistic if you read the Chronicles, not the fucking Romance which makes Liu Bei look like anything other than a backstabbing traitorous hypocritical cunt

>>151512475
So the Tang Imperial Culture is one based off perversion and genocide? Kill yourself.
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i wonder if people are just pretending to be Chinese or if there's actually a lot of Chinese people here. does 2ch have a /twg/?
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>>151512435
>units don't have real collision
wew he actually said it
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>>151500792
>Doom Divers.
>Best artillery in the game.
How so?
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>>151512574
Not really a /twg/
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>>151512305
KILL YOURSELF YOU DELUSIONAL RACE TRAITOR

How many pages did you have in your history books about the holocaust? Cause pic related was all that mentioned nanking and it wasn't even treated as a rape. It was something glorious.

japs won't hesitate to violently rape your family and then behead them in front of you but being the cuck you are you would probably beg to suck their cock while they do it. You fucking peerless degenerate.
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>>151503363

The video is outdated as fuck, anon.

EE has made the game a bajillion times better. Give it a go and see for yourself.
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>>151512574
There's a shitton of Chinese TW players mate. I'm a legit mainlander. I dunno if the other guy is actually Chinese. He sounds butthurt enough to be an old-timer at least.
I also avatarfag occasionally
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>>151512562
I do like the Romance version of him though while acknowledging that it's not quite faithful to truth.
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>>151512438
>said the britcuck that needed saving from evil nazis
>ammo, vehicles, weaponry and even troops were supplied by amerifats
>britcucks are so inbred and craven they couldn't even fly their own planes when nazis were bombing their capitol
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>>151512562
BENEVOLENCE REEEEEEE
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>>151512562
I'm sorry but did the tang dynasty feature panty vending machines and child porn?
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>>151512778
is there a total war community on baidu(or whatever it's called)?
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>>151512435
You do know that Rome 2 isn't the only game on the Engine, right? Your whole spiel only really applies to launch Rome 2, so obviously these are not issues with the engine, but with Rome 2.

It's 64 bit and DX12 support is being added. It is up to date as far as being adapted to current technology goes.

It could be better, which is why they are frequently upgrading it. Throwing away a decade of progress and starting anew is not the always the best way to do tings.
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>>151512760
>How many pages did you have in your history books about the holocaust?
Not him, but the alleged holocaust barely got a few paragraphs at most here. The soviets knew there were more important, real happenings to discuss.
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>take a year or two off /twg/
>come back
>same warscape argument is still going on
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>>151512747
Yeah, skeletons are pretty cool.
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>>151513021
Then it is a goddamned travesty and deserves at least a whole chapter dedicates to it to highlight the atrocities of war and why we should aim to never repeat them.
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>>151512650

Guided projectiles.

They have really good accuracy, good arc, great damage and are just really consistent. Hands down the best artillery.
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>>151512760
>How many pages did you have in your history books about the holocaust?
American here, I don't know about now, but when I was in high school, the Holocaust got like 1 page in our world history book. We learned more about it in Literature when we read Anne Frank, than we did in history.
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>>151512813
Well no, I like the Romance. It doesn't mean I think it's good to base your understanding of history on it.
Also that manga actually portrays Chen Gong accurately, he was the realest nigga

>>151512943
>stabs his family member in the back
>gets meme'd on by Lu Bu and gets butthurt when he does the exact same thing to his literal family member
No fuck him.

>>151512980
Maybe. Baidu 'forums' are cancerous so I try to avoid them. I know there's a lot of people who play it in my uni though.

>>151512956
No but it featured Wu Zetian and Tang Taizong, the latter having the unenviable distinction of being the Emperor who started the trend of 'checking' and 'correcting' his own Imperial History and omitting the parts he didn't want known.
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>>151512854
i too remember when the Nazis invaded Britain or were in any state capable of doing so
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>>151512956
>child porn
I missed this, what?
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Rome, M2, Empire, Shogun 2, Warhammer.

I own Attila but never played it.
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>>151512650
>guided
>armor-piercing damage
>splash damage
>scales with unit size
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>>151511312
>How many of you can honestly say you've never browsed reddit?
Define browse. Sometimes a google search brings up a thread from there which I check out, but never went there specifically to look for stuff.
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>>151513093
>they will never make a series 3
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>>151513321
Well you should try it out since you own it.
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>>151513243
Remember when the home guard was armed with literally spears and churchill had to beg for shit american guns which nobody in their right mind would purchase to arm his soldiers who were too old to actually fight?
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>>151512760
>>151513176

Swedefag here.

The holocaust gets around one or two pages. Rest focuses entirely on the war.

We also don't get to read on Anne Frank or anything like that. It very much relies on "facts".
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>tfw
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>>151513243
Yeah, those air raids totally didn't happen anon. Don't let them tell otherwise! Just keep calm and carry on.
Like I said anon, you sat on your asses in your shitstain of a country like cowardly bitches.
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>>151513093
It was just a sudden outburst today.
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>>151512085
that looks unnatural as fuck.
it looks like the land is floating above the waters
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>>151513321

>I own Attila but never played it.

It's basically WH without magic.
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>>151513563
>being so fucking nitpicky
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>>151513231
>It doesn't mean I think it's good to base your understanding of history on it.
Hell no, it's just entertaining fiction for me. It'd be like learning history from Hollywood blockbusters.

>he was the realest nigga
Damn right.
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post gore
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>>151513451
nope. nice alt-history though.
>>151513542
by this logic the UK invaded Germany since the UK was conducting air raids which were far more effective on them as well
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>>151474862
Krakanrok

I keep telling you little mortal boi's about the BSG
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>>151513130
It wasn't even the worst thing to happen in a war.
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>>151513515
>jaggy lines
>ketchup blood
>pink sky
>underwater textures

Warscape kids will defend this.
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>>151513698
>>151513515

I wish warhammer could get on Attila's level of gore.
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>>151513984
You're right, the holocaust happened over how many years? Just look at nanking. That was the worst atrocity in the war and yet barely anyone knows about it and the japs get away with it scott free.
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>>151513698
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>>151514029
>unappealing elevation of hills
>ground at a less-than-ideal angle
>clouds lacking in variety for the eco-climate
2/10
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>>151514092
>You're right, the holocaust happened over how many years? Just look at nanking. That was the worst atrocity in the war and yet barely anyone knows about it and the japs get away with it scott free.
I'd argue the live burial Bai Qi pulled was worse.
Also the Three Kingdoms period killed almost as many people as who died in ALL theatres of WWII.
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We should of nuked Tokyo.
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>>151514092
Are you serious? The japs apologized over and over for the war and war crimes
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>>151514092
Nanking was like 300,000 dead max, and that's a high estimate, whereas the Holocaust was millions
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>>151512996
only the units collapsing into each other is exclusive to Rome, and warscape isn't optimised performance and fidelity wise, you can always update an engine but an engine that hasn't been build up with current or recent tech in mind will always underperform, see Bethesda's fallout 4(built with skyrim's creation engine), not exactly up to standard fidelity wise, if you compare it with its contemporaries. You can say the same for warscape games.

if you have an old crooked building that is collapsing and mouldy you can add all sorts of supports to it to try to keep it from crashing down, you can paint the walls, replace some parts, but it will keep degrading and cracks will start to show whether you want it or not; in the end it would be more efficient to just tear it downand build a new building that fullfills the same purpose.
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>>151514260
No they didn't, at least not the government
This is actually one of the greatest asspains of the Chinese and even more for the Koreans.
I'm not him but they legit haven't issued and official government one.
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>>151514092
>Just look at nanking. That was the worst atrocity in the war
you're embarrasing yourself
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>>151514190
How about you try getting raped and having a spade shoved up your cunny. You do know that three kingdoms is mostly romanticised bullshit right?
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>>151514092
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>>151505079
>>151504991
>>151505362
>>151505506
>>151505357

So, I have a theory on this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ2DVQxdZLI
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>>151514447
He was way better looking in his early years.
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>>151514428
I'm talking about the fucking Imperial Censuses from before and after the period. The last Imperial Han census minus the Imperial Jin census shows a difference of something ridiculous like 40 million.
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>>151514285
300,000 dead.. in 3 WEEKS. DEAD OF LOOTING AND RAPE.
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>playing NTW as France
>England lands 2 more full stacks in Caen

what the fuck. why does the AI do nothing if I'm playing as part of the Coalition, but there's a thousand full stacks at the doors of Paris when playing France?
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>>151513698
>tfw pretty much 0 gore since I play on medium settings
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The fuck is warscape?
inb4 hurr durr.
I just play the games, have never payed attention to the development or much to the community.
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>>151514078
WH goes a bit overboard with the flying giblets and I really don't like the colour of blood.
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>>151513782
You're clinging to this idea of "invading" as if I even implied that Nazis did exactly that.

I'll quote my posts again so you can have another take on your reading skills:

>>151512320
>>151512854

But in case it's still too hard for you here's a tl;dr:

>Britcucks were craven faggots for whom inbreeding on an island is the pinnacle of warfare
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>>151514662
Can you please stop posting?
You're making us puke with your ugly screenshots.
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>>151514383
Literally the first two results of google show a list spanning 50 years of japs apologizing and then in 2015 Abe apologized again
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>>151514732
the engine of the TW games since Empire Total War
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>>151514604
okay and the atomic bombings killed 190,000 in an hour. surely it's more the scale of death rather than the time-frame that determines the scope of tragedy?
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>>151514542
WW2 had casualties of up to 80m. I doubt there were that many men in China during that period.
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>>151513698
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>>151514539
Amen.
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So Bretonnia FLC when?

I want muh knights.
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>>151513698
bruh
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>>151514961
You can see in his eyes that he's a murderous psychopath though.
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>>151514963
>tfw all knights are saber clones
TAKEUCHIIII
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>>151514963
Bretonnia is pretty much a Monty Python joke that went out of hand
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>>151514884
I said second to WW2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anthropogenic_disasters_and_atrocities_by_death_toll#Wars_and_armed_conflicts_that.27s_highest_estimated_casualties_are_a_1.2C000.2C000_or_more
Taiping is actually higher it turns out, but whatever.
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>>151514345
Okay, Rome 2 and the games before it. On what basis is warscape not optimized? What game are you comparing it to here? I can't think of any others with thousands of soldiers fighting on screen at once that perform comparably.

>trying to argue with analogies
Fuck off. Stop trying to subvert the discussion with some sparsely related situation you made up.
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>>151514851
Justified. They probably didn't even feel it. Simply retribution.
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>>151514905
What the fuck happened there
I really can't tell
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>>151515265
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>>151514963
>not Tomb Kings
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>>151515062
>You will never have a cute knight Legendary Lord.
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>>151515142
yeah they probably didnt feel a thing
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>>151515265
>What the fuck happened there
Looks like artillery happened.
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>70 years later
>people still being this much assblasted
We will never grow as a race
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>>151514794
you, or another anon who i was responding to, responded to my post in which i said the nazis did not and were not capable of invading Britain by citing the air raids on Britain. i said that by this logic the air raids on Germany by the UK also constituted an invasion but of course that's not how it works and therefore the point you/he made is invalid.

>UK sends hundreds of thousands of soldiers to France
>UK invades Nazi-occupied Norway
>UK fleets battle Axis fleets across the Mediterranean, Atlantic and North Sea
>UK sends tens of thousands of soldiers to Greece
>UK sends hundreds of thousands of soldiers to Egypt
the UK literally did more than every other allied power. it wasn't our fault everyone else was too incompetent to defend themselves as we did.
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How come civil wars tend to be more brutal and cruel compared to wars between nations?
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>>151515461
Maybe they should've surrendered or tried not being so fucking evil.
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>>151515502
>70 years
Some people are still assblasted about ancient empires.
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>>151515453
Shit taste

>>151515572
This guy doesn't represent all of us, so pls no hate.
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>>151515476
I thought there would be a lot more dust and maybe an explosion for that but now that I see another projectile coming it seems you're right
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>>151515126
whether you like it or not, an analogy that is correctly applied is a valid argument and unless you tear it down it still stands

anyway the games after Rome 2 still have the problems CA just tries to work around them, units still 1v1 and slide around jerkily, and performance drops massively when you zoom in
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>>151515572
It wasn't that simple
>Emperor and several ministers want to surrender after Okinawa
>Army throws a shitfit
>Emperor tries to surrender after the A-bombs
>Army tries to execute a coup

Honestly the whole war was really the fault of the Army being a bunch of shitheads.
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How come civil wars tend to be more brutal and cruel compared to wars between nations??
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>>151515675
fucking imperialistic jap fantasies, look at this shit. They've learned not one lesson from the war. Given the chance they would do it again. And it is because of people like you.
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>>151515915
But Nobu a cute anon
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>>151515541
>the UK literally did more than every other allied power.
Did you forget about the USSR or are you just way too fucking high off your own farts?
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>>151515915
Let them try lmao, they're American cocksluts at this point.

>>151515887
The Japanese Army was just high on their own glory. In fact I remember some generals actually telling the higherups they were being stupid but NOPE MUH GLORY
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>>151515794
>Persian dance recital
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>>151515675
the Oda lotus(?) looks like the Tudor rose
>>
Is this what a brainwashed person looks like?
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>>151516039
I wish japan would try and America finally flattens japan and evil is exterminated from this world.
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>>151515996
literally did nothing outside of eastern europe. their main contribution was being invaded.
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>>151516201
>that screaming roman
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>>151515903
>>151515547
Will someone fucking answer me?
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>>151516048
TW games have the best dances.

>all these korean shitposting
pls
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>>151516193
>tying up most of the German forces in the east and destroying most of that in kursk

yeah they were worthless alright.
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>>151514795
>screenshots
no need for a plural, this is the first one I posted in this thread
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>>151516193
>britain's main contribution was sitting on an island
also tell your shlock to the 60 german divisions destroyed on the eastern front compared to the 6 or so on the western front, without the soviets you wouldn't have stood a chance
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>>151515903
Brüder gegen Brüder. Also more executions and few rules of war. Both parts has everything to lose.
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>>151515840
>unless you tear it down
And there lies the problem with faggots like you trying to argue with analogies doing what I said and subverting the discussion. Suddenly we stop arguing about the subject matter and instead start a back and forth over the validity of a fictitious situation you made up. Fuck that and fuck you.

Warhammer doesn't have matched combat, so no that's wrong. That doesn't mean the engine is poorly optimized and needs to be scrapped entirely.
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>>151516458
Fuck off soldat.

Someone else reply to my question.
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>>151516547
Probably because civil wars are internal in nature and often have massive popular support.
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>>151516643
Thank you. Unless you're soldat, in which case you can fuck off.
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>>151516193
>the UK did more fighting on the sidelines than the nation that actually broke the enemy army's back and was the first country to really bring the fight to them on the continent and capture their capital
Holy shit the delusion
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>>151514846
Thank you.
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>>151516714
I'm Jingbing.
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>>151516383
please refer to where i said they were worthless
>>151516449

>UK sends hundreds of thousands of soldiers to France
>UK invades Nazi-occupied Norway
>UK fleets battle Axis fleets across the Mediterranean, Atlantic and North Sea
>UK sends tens of thousands of soldiers to Greece
>UK sends hundreds of thousands of soldiers to Egypt
>UK defends Ethiopia from Italy
>UK fights Nazis in the western Sahara
>UK invades Nazi-occupied Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia
>UK invades Sicily
>UK invades Italy
this isn't even mentioning the operations they did with other nations

>USSR
>got invaded
>
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>>151516718
>Sprite/2.5D
Shogun
Medieval

>3D
Rome
Medieval 2

>Warscape
Empire
Napoleon
Rome 2
Warhammer

The consensus is that warscape is an engine specifically made for musket warfare, so it has all sorts of problems in Rome 2.

It also looks like shit, due to unnecesary fog, bloom and postprocessing.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ-txlYWOjQ

PrinceofMacedon beats a Gyro copter spam
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>>151516715
>manage to kill 1 of them for every 3 they kill of you in defence of valueless steppe
>valuable contributions
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>>151515675
>shit taste
>posts Nobu
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>>151516916
>USSR sends 11 million soldiers all the way to berlin

yep, the UK was the most helpful ally.
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>>151516162
Did you miss the religious shit last thread?
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>>151515084

Monty Pythons Holy Grail is one of the greatest movies ever made, so I'm fine with it.

>>151514963

>knight errants
>questing knights

There, enjoy your two extra knights, because there won't really be much more for the faction. Mayb grail pilgrims and grail relique, but that's about it.
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>>151516916
>UK
>sent hundreds of thousands

>USSR
>sent thirty million
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>>151517214
Actually yes
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>>151517164
Post your favorite then faggot
Basically anyone is better than muh perfect king
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>>151517214
Nope, atheists showing how brainwashed they were.
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>>151516449
>60 german divisions destroyed on the eastern front compared to the 6 or so on the western front
http://www.axishistory.com/axis-nations/134-campaigns-a-operations/campaigns-a-operations/2085-number-of-german-divisions-by-front-in-world-war-ii
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>>151517318
>Not loving saibah
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>>151517284
ussr sending millions of soldiers to strategic locations all over the globe in order to deprive the enemy of supplies and make them over-extend themselves. holy shit i can't believe we never learnt about this. to think the actual historical consensus is that they got invaded and millions of them died before managed to push them back and did literally nothing else
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>>151517319
I agree, anyone who thinks this isn't a goddess is just delusional

>>151517523
Heroine X != Saber.
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>>151515453
Why is it that japs always draw retarded armor? Dark souls had some practical shit but they still had more retarded shit. What is it with japs?
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>>151516945
Attila fixed most of the mistakes R2 made, it plays incredibly fluidly and the melee is well done.

Warhammer has the best fighting mechanics in the entire franchise.

That said, I still wouldn't want to play a pike and shot game in Warscape. Pikes in that engine don't even come close to emulating historical pikeneering.
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>>151516193

Holy shit nigger, the USSR were the fuckers that won the goddamn war.
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>>151517318
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>>151517673
Nothing in the total war works as it should historically.
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>>151517672
Unlike you, they don't have autism and therefor do not care about pre-modern European armour historicity.
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>all these people believing USSR propaganda 20+ years after the wall fell
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>>151517697
>dying in the millions when the war was being won on the Western front anyway
so... this is the power of communism...
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>>151517759
>tfw I literally can't figure out who that is with certainty
Mode Red?
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>>151517318
>not choosing perfection
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>>151517673
Tell me about pikeneering, anon
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>>151517697
You're wrong, it was America. In both world wars the nazis were desperate to keep America out of the war. Both wars ended shortly after American boots on ground.
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Is Fall of the Samurai the apex of TW musket warfare?
It feels like it blows Napoleon out of the water.
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>>151517965
>In both world wars the nazis were desperate to keep America out of the war.
This has to stop
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>>151517965
>both world wars
>nazis
Uuuh
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>>151517865
It's not about it being historically accurate, it's about not being exposed-midriff-platelegs-on-head retarded.
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>>151518026
It's literally the best TW I played.
Sucks that they didn't bother giving the Republic their own agents.
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>>151517965
>In both world wars the nazis
>ww1
>nazis

Yep, this is bait.
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>>151517965
>>151518074
Stop this meme madman
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>>151518074
>jetfag got BTFO out of /fgog/ so he's on /twg/
WEW
E
W
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>>151517965
>2 years into war US joins in
>4 years later it ends
>shortly after
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>>151517965
>In both world wars the nazis were desperate to keep America out of the war
But the nazis literally arose out of the first war!?!?!?????????????? UMMMM!??
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>>151517909
The one and only.
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>>151516527
being obstructive simply to try and undermine someone else is however not an argument, it's in the same tier as those people who cry about "burden of rebuttal

cracks DO show when you look at all the hoops CA has to jump through to make warscape work, this costs manhours and more ingame calculations than necessary
>warhammer doesn't have matched combat
and is the first warscape TW to do so(so that makes your claim that the problems were only for Rome 2 and games before it false) but now it also lost a lot of animations to compensate it seems, also you see typical warscape shit like zweihanders moving in complete sync, orcs clubbing at empty air and so forth
>>151516916
>USSR
>got invaded
>ties up vast majority of german army and destroys it
>captures german capital
>relieves britain from most pressure
I can underrepresent too, see:
meanwhile Britain
>sit on Island
>get invaded in Malaysia
>get invaded in Burma
>get invaded in new Guinea
>get invaded in Egypt
>be aircraft carrier for the USA
>
>>151517339
>The German armed forces suffered 80% of its military deaths in the Eastern Front.
William J. Duiker (2009). Contemporary World History.
also with the six or seven divisions destroyed on the western front I mean those destroyed after D-Day
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>>151517965
>nazis
>both world wars
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>>151518256
>jetfag
Literally who
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>>151518148
nazis in ww1
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>>151518318
Well Mode Red is based if a fucking canon retard so you're okay.

>>151518256
>tfw Melvin actually got fucking blown to pieces
It's incredible.

>>151518395
t. Melvin
>>
>mfw Russiaboos and Americunts arguing about who defeated Germany when none of them could have done it on their own

Germany lost because the British blockaded the shit out of them, had to keep a lot of men East that they had trouble supplying because of the blockade and then crumbled when the Allies invaded.

We won through teamwork niggas step it up
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>>151518512
>Melvin
Who are you people
>>
>>151516916
>>UK sends hundreds of thousands of soldiers to France
And lost.

>>UK sends hundreds of thousands of soldiers to Egypt
Maybe whole North African campaign had 300,000 Brits max.

>>UK invades Nazi-occupied Norway
Did not invade, sent 10,000 men along with France to help 60,000 Norwegians defend

>>UK fleets battle Axis fleets across the Mediterranean, Atlantic and North Sea
How heroic to engage an enemy fleet with a navy that outnumbers the foe 10 to 1 and still receive disproportionate casualties.

>>UK sends tens of thousands of soldiers to Greece
Largely ineffective and mainly in islands, not mainland.

>>UK defends Ethiopia from Italy
You mean a few thousand Englishmen primarily in an intel and materials role among over a hundred-thousand native Africans fighting?

>>UK fights Nazis in the western Sahara
>>UK invades Nazi-occupied Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia
>>UK invades Italy
Don't act like this was even a quarter British troops of total Allies strength.


The two most important nations on the Allies side was the Soviet Union and the United States, for combat and materials respectively(both are in second place for other role too). No other Allies countries mattered as much and if even one of those countries did not fight the Axis, a stalemate would've been the among the best possibilities for the Allies. That said, it was a coalition effort and all nations were integral to the outcome.
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>>151518402
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>>151518148
>>151518402
nazis in ww2
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>>151518395
>jetfag forgets who he is
JUST
U
S
T
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>>151485816
>t. Imhotep

Tomb Kings aren't good guys, and Nehekhara was by no means a utopia.

They're an ancient civilisation brought back by magic. Which means they do the regular ancient civilisation things like flaying slaves and hanging their skin from the castle walls, sacrificing people en-mass because the weather is bad. They're not really evil, they're just kind of dickish.
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>>151513451
There was nothing wrong with the american guns. Home guardfags just freaked out because "wtf this isn't muh smle!"
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>>151518567
Sorry anon, we're in joking.
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>>151518576
>your value in war is how many men you mindlessly send to their deaths
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>>151518567
t. Miguel

>>151518678
Nah they're the closest things to an objective good guy in that they're actively trying to say 'fuck your shit' to chaos. Also Settra Rules
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>>151517101
>PrinceofMacedon beats a Gyro copter spam
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>>151518329
>USSR
>got invaded
>ties up 60% of german army and gets destroyed but barely wins by sheer numbers
>captures german capital which UK and US would have captured like 3 days later anyway because they're much geographically much closer
>relieves Britain from no pressure considering the number of soldiers on the Western front actually increased as the war went on rather than decreased
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>>151518804
Autism.
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>>151518636
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>>151518576
>post which adds irrelevant points and opinion
thanks anon
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>>151518832
>Nah they're the closest things to an objective good guy in that they're actively trying to say 'fuck your shit' to chaos.

So are Lizardmen, Empire, High Elves, Wood Elves and Dwarfs. hell, even the fucking Vampire Counts hate Chaos' guts.

TK are neutral, same as Ogre Kingdoms.
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New thread?

>>151518875
You're an autist.
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>>151513698
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>>151517965
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>>151501772
>new and younger people are enjoying a game series I too enjoy
Why is this bad?
>>
I'm burned out guys. I don't know what to play.
Hit me with a cool playthrough, I got TWW, M2, Attila, R2, S2, Empire and Nappy installed.
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gore you say?
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>>151519049
Can you please stop posting lewd anime girl pictures?

I'm Christian and I have been no-fapping for 3 months. Atleast use the spoiler.

Have some respect for people who want to sanctify and better themselves.
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>>151519163
damn
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>>151519319
>people tell me warscape handles missiles better
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>>151518518
>Germany lost because the British blockaded the shit out of them
Definitely true for WW1 but in WW2 the Germans managed to largely avoid similar problems because they conquered such large swathes of Europe and almost literally the sucked the life out of them. While at the end of the day it was a team effort, it's pretty silly not to recognise that the USSR did the lion's share of the work and especially the sacrifice.
>>
>>151518518
>teamwork
I've had a short discussion with my bong colleague about ww2 last week. Funnily enough teamwork wasn't even remotely mentioned.
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>>151519387
Why be ashamed of your body's needs?

>>151519319
Are those javelins
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>>151519505
>anti-warscape fags will look at this and say it looks bad or, even more hilariously stupid, depressing.

Nigga the Dark Ages are the most depressing era of human history fuck outta here with your lovey dovey shit
>>
>the UK did nothing other than engage in operations in dozens of areas around the world
>the USSR did everything despite the fact it was content to not even help until it was attacked and then only fought on one front in self-defence
>>
Aren't we missing the bigger picture? That it took 3 massive superpowers to take down one country who just a decade ago was in abject poverty? Perhaps Hitler was right and Germans are the Master Race?
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>>151519652
Didn't know the Dark Ages had a shortage of colours.
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>>151519407
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Hey
What's going on in this thread?
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>>151519553
You won't tempt me, Satan.
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>>151518863
>britain
>get rekt in france and flee with tail between legs at dunkirk
>get rekt in Malaysia by numerically inferior japs on bicycles
>get rekt in Burma
>get rekt in Greece
>fight against italians and an undersupplied outnumbered Erwin Rommel who still managed to destroy the brits until montgomery got britain's shit together
>be aircraft carrier for the USA
Meanwhile the USSR causes 80% of german casualities, while you pride yourself on contributing to the 20% of their casualities
you have to be autistic to find pointless(and hopeless) arguing like this fun, simply put britain is not the most important Ally of WW1, both in Europe and the pacific you had to rely almost completely on the USA and the USSR to save you
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>>151519652
Did grass grow in water in the dark ages too? I guess the dark ages was supposed to be literal because there's no colour.
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>he believes the Dark Ages myth
plus Attila isn't even in that period
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>>151519743
Perhaps my Arsch. Too bad they forgot.
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>>151519845
You wouldn't want to fuck this would you anon?
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>>151519652
Dark ages really get overblown. Shit was bad, and there were short periods that were some of the worst, but it was not the long bleak hopelessness that is sometimes portrayed.

That said, the misery of Europeans did not do much to change the physical state of the world. Colors were still colors. The sun shone.
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>>151519881
>inferior japs on bicycles

why does this make me laugh
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>>151519049
The irony in this post is staggering.
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>>151519845
>Satan
Don't have a Satan but I can come close.
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>>151519834
M2 autism.
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>>151519927
it was actually, the dark ages(aka migration period) didn't start at 476, shit was already going down
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>>151515840
>anyway the games after Rome 2 still have the problems
You mean the
Games after med2 kingdoms? Also Warhammer doesn't have 1v1 combat any more. But it's engine still has problems. Though I will day units seem to respond and move faster in warscape.
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>>151520035
You can't depict a gloomy world with color you stupid philistine.
>>
OK guys I'm kinda bad at Medieval 2 but I wanna get more into it.
I have Stainless Steel installed.
What factions are fun to play? Nothing too hard.
I tried East Romans before and got Jihad spammed so hard I lost all fun in killing their shitty no-armor-no-weapons-but-really-wanna-keep-fighting-to-the-death full stacks, and I tried England but I'm not really enjoying it.
>>
When is the LL/RR DLC coming out?
>>
Lads I want a unit mod for warhammer that gives me rifles with rate of fire and range of assault rifles

I got knighta of verdant field who are plenty op but you can only have 4 units
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New Thread
>>151520380
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>>151520436
by the end of month, most likely

no official date
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyXgMXNkdf0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaRNvJLKP1E

>you will never live in the comfy middle ages
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>>151520283
>I don't know things are bad unless you desaturate the world to an unrealistic degree to tell me it's bad

You can spin a narrative properly while keeping in mind that the world wasn't perpetual nightmare mode even at the worst of the Dark Ages. One of the biggest myths is actually that things were dark gloomy and cold when really they were in a warming period and consistently had some of the best weather Europe's seen.
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>>151519881
of WW2*
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>>151519881
to summarise:
>UK retreats before losing hundreds of thousands of soldiers and succeeds in tying up Axis forces globally; constitutes being rekt
>USSR does not retreat and makes up 90% of the casualties in the war; constitutes victory

additionally in the Japanese invasion of Malay the Japs had 5300 men whereas the British had only one Indian brigade; they were outnumbered. Britain won in Burma, Italy and Africa.
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>>151520759
>USSR destroying most of the german army and capturing the german capital constitutes in victory
yes
>britain losing in Malaysia, Greece and France and getting pushed into Burma constitutes getting rekt
yes

also Brits were not outnumbered, they had massive forces in Singapore

stop spinning around the point, soviets were more important
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>>151520759
>additionally in the Japanese invasion of Malay the Japs had 5300 men whereas the British had only one Indian brigade; they were outnumbered.
no
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well this thread went to shit
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>>151519553
Gonna need a sauce on dat
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