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Thread #7: We will bang now edition

>What is this?

Merge general of Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen

>Elite: Dangerous information pastebin. Update as needed.
http://pastebin.com/ZT9GWmaC
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>Star Citizen information pastebin. Update as needed.
http://pastebin.com/UNEJYGHp
>2.5 is PTU now btw
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>other games
if it doesn't have a general, come on in. just don't get upset about sharing.
Last thread: >>151295730
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First for Vision and Dreams.
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First for fidelity
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>>151448003
2nd for group posting
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>>151443164
>>151448317
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>>151448317
I should have specified, I meant a real person from the community, rather than a character.
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>>151448564
Star citizen would have been a complete game and a huge commercial success, today, right this second, if it had the same level of fidelity as Unturned
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I like space games but I don't wanna spend like $150 on E:D DLC or $10,000 on Star Shitizen ships I'll never get to actually enjoy

What do
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>>151449208
SC: buy basic ship -> steal better ship from whale when implemented
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>>151449309
I'm guessing you use the FPS component to board and take control of ships? That'll be really cool if so.
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>>151448814
Well, the thing is, no person or personality, whether player or deveoper, has made any sort if meaningful impact on ED since it's initial launch, such is the purposeful staleness of the game.

I guess you can look through those cringy DeviantArt fedora portraits someone made of players with their ships and see if anything takes your fancy.
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>>151449208
don't fall for the bullshit and just get a starter ship package for 45 to 60 dollars. Anything beyond that is to further support development, which isn't required to play the current alpha for finished game a few years from now.
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>>151449605
yep you can do it now. it will be significantly more difficult when there's actually door controls; currently you can walk right in the back of someone's ship and shoot them right out of the pilot's seat, and all they can do is try to get off the pad before somebody sneaks in.
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>>151449208
Play other space games you nignog. Starsector is good, so is House of the Dying Sun.
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>>151450814
I've been playing a good amount of Starsector, it's pretty rad.
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>>151449208
pick up star citizen on a sale when it's finally live
kill faggots who spent $10000 in your starter ship with friends in starter ships
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>>151449651
that is most unfortunate. I was hoping for someone worthy of standing beside our own Dan THE MAN Gheesling.
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>>151451465
ain't that the Christian Jesus boy?
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>>151449963
>Not using the turret entry exploit to sneak into the ship before they even unlock the door.
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>>151451465
>Dan THE MAN Gheesling
I watch his videos because I like watching people who have less skill than myself.

I also find is excited voice extremely grating.
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>>151452179
Dan really isn't very good at games, but I appreciate that he seems to honestly like SC, tries out things, and isn't a carebear.

His mannerisms are really annoying, though.
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>>151452571
>but I appreciate that he seems to honestly like SC
Yeah, that is the main reason I watch it, he really gets into what he is doing and is very animated. I may find his mannerism peevish like yourself, but I do agree with you about how he gets into it.
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>>151451608
he was a b-list celebrity CIG hired to be community manager for all of five minutes.

>need to get obese heavy breathing man off the camera
>hire daytime TV star
>he claims to be a big fan of wing commander games from way back
>says he pledged a lot and loves all CR's old games
>he's clean and attractive and well spoken
>community hates him
>calls him a lying shill and chases him away immediately
>CIG let him go quietly like two weeks later
>bring back the fat guy that breathes into the mic every episode
>Dan still plays and streams the game to this very day because it was all true

anyway here's the abortive OP I was making
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Anybody else in the 2.5 PTU?

I'm downloading it now.
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So now that the kong shitpost squad is back in full force, how do we deal with them once and for all?
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>>151453646
Wait, Dan worked at CIG? When was that?
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>>151454270
they hired him to be the community liaison or something during TNGS. the backlash was immediate because he seemed like an 'outsider' not being a filthy neckbeard
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>>151454469
Jesus, I had no idea. Man, I may find his mannerisms annoying but at least he cares about the game. What a horrible community.
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I remember seeing Dan The Man appear on TNGS for the first time. Didn't like him, but he was bearable. I feel bad for him now, seeing how much he legitimately likes the game.
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>>151454270
>>151454469
>>151454691
>>151456278
Even /scg/ is guilty of shitting on him. There were a lot of people who thought he was a "poser".
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>>151454469
>>151454691
Personally I didn't have a problem with him as a person. They just happened to bring him on at a time when CIG was apparently haphazardly spending money on top of having shill sale after shill sale when I felt they should have been more conservative. It felt more like he was a victim of bad timing than anything.
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what happened to these two fair-haired lads?
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>>151456787
went off and made their own shitty game
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>>151456853
While trying to use SC as a talking point about the merits of their game.
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>>151456787
Left either got fired or left because he didn't want to relocate, right followed him and they made their own shitty game. They even kept the same video format.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXapNU5zmhE

He also got banned from RSI for shilling his game too much.
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>>151456940
>>151456853
yeah and their game looks not bad
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>>151457094
You might say it looks Decent
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>>151457068
>august 5, 2016
that's just fuckin weird, these two are part of a bygone age to me. this is like a time capsule
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Is the Avenger still obnoxiously strong by comparison to it's price tag still?
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>>151457068
>221 views
Jesus, its like time stopped for those two.
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>>151457368
it doesn't BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT so it sucks still
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>>151456787
To think we shunned Dan to retain this gravity well.
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>>151457314
>>151457592
It honestly baffles me that they kept the exact same format. Title, intro, editing, categories and everything.
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>>151457068
holy shit they've got Micheal Morlan! I liked that guy
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>>151457704
heart disease will get 'em before it's too late
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>>151457704
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>>151457704
tfw his sepsis didn't kill him a few weeks ago
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>>151458306
Ben is on the edge of crippling obesity. Any fatter and he'd be too fat to get out of bed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO5S6LiVS5k

Now with high fidelity elevator waiting times.
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>>151458812
I didn't know this was Mass Effect online.
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>>151458812
It gives depth to the game DESU
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tfw post in old thread
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>>151460634

had 52 fps for a time, fun times in and around grim hex
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Anyone know were i can read this PCGames article/Magazine that leddit is talking about?
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>>151461284
It bought the article. I can translate the most important bits if you want.

Part of it is this interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvule1cD_zk
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>>151461392
>it
It's retarded. I bought the article. Or rather the magazine.
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>>151461392
No need to translate, just post the main points that aren't in the interview(i already watch it yesterday).
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>all this new info
>the new ATV/RTV format
>2.5 released
>tfw on the right side of history
>tfw Roberts is our savior
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>>151462537
i'll suck he dick if they actually manage to get stable framerates in multiplayer
inb4 2.7
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>>151462537
Derek Shart on suicide watch!
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fuck
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>>151462860
What ship is that?
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>>151461718
They did a tour of F42 Frankfurt with Brian Chambers and Chris+Erin. Got to see Star Marine and procedural planets, could play the build. Landing on Nyx, the planet looks significantly better than 2015. Terrain looks great and even the curvature of the horizon is correctly simulated. They can simulate orbital motion of planets, day/night cycles. Seamless space/ground transition kept in mind for missions, will profit S42 as well. They have a powerful editor for topography and biomes, which get automatically blended. Objects like hidden ruins/wrecks/stations etc. can be included for exploration.
Star Marine in 26 outside of the PU on its own new maps. "They put a lot of effort into reworking fps mechanics, which is noticable compared to the rudimentary system in 2.4" -Roberts. The gameplay they showed looked excellent. Animations, controls and gunplay feel smooth and it's a good gameplay experience for fps fans.
Procedural planets in 2.7 with Hurston and Microtech coming in following patches. Full Stanton system with all landing zones and stations (40 locations) before the end of 2016, including more missions and the ability to buy/sell stuff. New netcode that allows more players in the same instance. Less instancing is the goal.
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>>151457368
CIG nerfed it pretty bad a while back, when they realized that there was still a viable multi-purpose sub 100 dollar ship available. They made the main gun overheat super fast and knocked the combat speed down to 210m/s (also might have made it a bit more fragile, hard to say)

The new 2.5 patch. buffs the speed back up to 240m/s. Gatling gun still overheats quickly though. But yes, it's still the best ship you can get for under 70 dollars, since the Reliant has turned out to be a huge disappointment.
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>>151463043
Thanks my man!
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>>151463079
the reliant was always going to be pirate bait and an NPC loot pinata. Don't know why anyone thought otherwise
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>>151463009

Python.
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>>151462537

I feel like they're actually properly starting on the game at full steam now, and all the stuff in the past was preparatory shit.
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>>151462860
Are you the same guy that keeps taking missions like this? You know you can check the system map before you accept the mission, right? It tells you how far from jump in it is.
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>>151463590
>cant even recognize the ship that i currently fly
i am retarded
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>>151463043
Oh, also they said planetary landing has "a better technical execution that Elite". Planets apparently also benefit greatly from the new lighting system. They say it's impressive how you transition from space to ground and all the details appear. Also the volumetric clouds look good with summits peeking through them and everything. There's no view range limit, so valleys and mountains in the distance slowly disappear in the fog. Somthing about parralax occlusion mapping. Also AI activity/update-/tick rate scales based on how many players are around.
Also something about PBR and how the handheld railgun has 60k polys.
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>>151464037

No. I always check. This was a mission to get engineer access though, so no way I wasn't taking it.
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>>151464394
Ah, my bad then.
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>>151464152
Lighting without (left) and with (right) parallax occlusion maps.
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>>151464152
>better technical execution than E:D

Least surprising thing in there.
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>>151464152
I hope they will show it on Gamescom.
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>>151463079

>super fast

you can do pretty lengthy bursts with it from my time playing with it

it's not the heat buildup that's the issue, it's that it doesn't cooldown very quickly
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>>151464664
so it's just a lighting trick?
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>>151464840
I'd be surprised if they didn't, really.

tfw visiting F42 Frankfurt as well in 2 weeks (tm). I'm legitimately hyped.
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>>151462537
>right side of history

Stop shitposting and get back to running the country, Obama.
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>>151462860

>he spent money on the alphabet pack

Why.
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>>151465073
Oh, I hope they put the F7A bodykit mod for the F7C back up for sale when the F7A is done. Half because I want one, and half because I want to see the fuckers who bought them for stupid amounts of money off reddit/ebay get salty about it not being rare anymore.
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>>151465709
Not him, haven't bought any interior stuff, but if you're going to waste as much time as you likely do, why not buy the extra frills you want?
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>>151462537
>>151462852
lol, keep on culting
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>>151465749
I really hope that they make it so it's a bodykit for the Mk 2 version. They could just troll everyone by having it upgrade to the Mk 1.
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I live in Houston. What do they do if you visit their studio?
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>>151465983
Did you get bored of Line of Defense again?
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>>151465007
parallax is magical anon--surfaces that are flat appear to be 3-dimensional with the proper textures
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>>151466131
Suck your dick.
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>>151466091
You know what, I'm gonna bug concierge about this.
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>>151465914

Because FD doesnt deserve extra money for cosmetic shit.
Especially when they're going to charge you another $60 next year when they release another season with no fucking content.
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>>151466912
BUT SPACE LEGS
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should I be playing on the PTU?

i've been using the regular client because my internet is literally africa-tier and I try to minimize updates, but maybe it would be worth it to try out the newest build
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>>151466912
And we're all going to fucking pay for it anyways because it's the closest thing we've got to the promises of Star Citizen until they get their full solar system going, so you might as well buy the dumb bobbles and skins that you want.
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Why is this such a common occurrence?
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>>151467324

ptu testers get to try the reliant, and agro. some cool shit in there like grimhex but i have a feeling it'll be released to live next week or something
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>>151457068
>it's literally exactly the same
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Has the updater been fixed so you don't redownload the entire game every update yet?
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>tfw can never bring myself to melt it for something else

i dunno why but this big dumb ship has really grown on me
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>>151457068
Watching this fucked me up. It's insane how far Star Citizen has progressed in terms of quality versus this. Really puts things into perspective.
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>>151468384

has not been fixed, might happen in the fall / end of year
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>>151468639
That's annoying, I guess I'll wait until at least 2.7 to download it again as the changes before then won't really be that big.
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>>151457068

didn't these guys buy the decent IP and hit a really far along, and good, fangame with a c&d? i remember being disgusted by a situation like that
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>>151468406
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>>151468406
'cuz it has a cage in the back for all the cute traps we get to capture :D
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>>151468816
I thought that was Interplay. Sol Conspiracy? Contingency? Something like that.
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I may pirate or buy NMS tomorrow.
I may end up instead installing E:D tomorrow night because I haven't played it in years and only did like a few tutorial levels.
I may hate both, but I'll b comfy.
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>>151469397

oh you're right, but

>Sol Contingency project lead Maximillian Schulz has received a cease and desist notice from Interplay Entertainment, which he has posted on the Sol Contingency website. The letter follows previous contact with an unspecified “daughter company” of Interplay

>unspecified daughter company

this happened shortly after decent studios opened up and announced decent underground, and i'm pretty sure wingman was posting some rude shit on their forums
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We did it /scg/ we got rid of Sandi!
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>>151466291
pfttthahahaha

classic cultist

how much you in for?
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>>151469859
So are you really the angry negro from twatter?
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Is Elite Dangerous worth coming back to? Haven't played in like 6 or 7 months and don't have horizons, but I have like 150 million dollars. Should I?
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>>151469656
>Playing
>Elite: Dangerous
It's almost like it plays itself with minimum player input. I mean, I'm training to get a CDL and E:D still feels more like a job than long distance driving.
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>>151470345
>Is Elite Dangerous worth coming back to?

No
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>>151470345
It's not hugely different from when you left it. If you enjoyed it then you'll enjoy it now.
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>>151469656
Is it even possible to pirate nms? I thought it was some need constant online connection thing
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>>151470940
it has an offline mode and is on GOG and is 2.6GB
easiest pirate you'll ever see, aside from Paradox games
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>>151467598
Realism
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Why is it that every fucking system worth seeing has been explored by someone?

Should i even bother scanning those planets?
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>>151470464
FAS > FGS > FDS
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>>151469145
>Video games keep adding all sorts of horrible identity politics bullshit.
>Yet they still won't let you play as a cute trap.
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>>151471119
Well, you get a "lot" of credits from scanning planets, so yes.
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>>151471249
The FDS has the most optional core slots so I can fit a lot of cargo into it. But yeah, the goal is to upgrade once I've used the hell out of the FDS.
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>>151471486
It's a shame 'cause the FDS beats the other two by miles aesthetically.
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>>151471050
I would probably buy it if it was 30 bucks, but 60 dollars is way to overpriced for that game
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>>151470119
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>>151471832
Same. Figure I'll pick it up on a sale if they actually end up releasing a lot of "free updates".
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>>151471719
They're priced pretty similarly though, strangely. It's just a matter of grinding up to the point I can switch between them depending on the mission. Honestly, I'll probably end up keeping the FDS just because I actually sort of enjoy flying it, strangely enough. Not enough to keep the rest of the game from being boring, but enough to make it slightly less bullshit.
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>/scg/ is back
>now with /edg/-bros as well

Neat.

I haven't checked up on SC in a while. Anything interesting coming up?
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>>151472293
2.5 with a bunch of random things just hit PTU.
Big things for the rest of the year with Star Marine and procedural planets, but you know how their timeline works.
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>>151472547

>Star Marine

Are we actually getting it this time?
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>>151472607
2.6 is where Star Marine is released. 2.5 isn't quite the time yet, so if you want that you may want to wait a month or two.
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>>151472726

Alrighty
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>>151472293
Only if you're a reliant or criminal fag.
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>>151467598

That's pretty much what you'd expect to find around most red dwarf or cooler stars in the real galaxy.

Check hotter stars if you want less ice.
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Any way to set up rudder pedals along a hotas for SC or is it only single controllers as is?
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>>151474101
SC can do multiple controllers. The menu is terrible at actually listing which controller is which though
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>>151474391
Didn't seem to recognise pedal input but maybe that was my fault then.
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>>151474391
Does it work with a Steam Controller?
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>>151471119

Everybody stays within 1Kly of Earth or beelines for famous stars or nearby nebulae. So don't do that.

If you want uncharted territory, make a mad dash around 3Kly in a random direction (like not directly towards a nebula or the core) and suddenly everything is unexplored. The scale of the galaxy is so huge that it's literally impossible for even a small fraction of it to be covered.

Also learn what different star classes look like on the galaxy map, because there's some crazy shit right out in the middle nowhere and you might spot some nearby that way.
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>>151474618
Which pedals? The CH ones tend too be crotchety if you don't use their driver configuration tool.
>>151474714
I've seen posts by people who've used one with it.
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>>151475150
Some random saitek ones I got half a decade ago or so.
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Have there been any specifics of mining as a mechanic in SC?
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>>151477878
Not yet, aside from the stuff they released when they did the prospector jpg sale. So far it seems like they want it to be a great deal more involved and specialized than it is in most space games
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>>151477878

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14522-Star-Citizen-Careers-Mining

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15306-MISC-Prospector-Unearthed

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14518-Rugged-Colossus-Orion-Mining-Platform
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>>151478621
>I thought you were on a diet
Gets me every time.
I hope he chokes on a cheez-it.
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>>151468453
I second this. It's surreal to think about the old wingman hangar days when all we could do was walk around a hangar.
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>>151480428
And I was still amazed back then, although for a lot less time.
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Hey guys Im new to Star citizen and have a few question

1) is it a mmo?
2) how does the hangar work? Is it a instanced place or is your hangar actually floating somewhere? Can your friends visit you with their ship etc?
3) what should I actually download for the next free testing event? Last time I missed the chance to test this game on my pc.

thanks
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>>151483835
1
its two games, mmo and single player campaign
2
instanced for now, the goal is to have it in the universe and your friends can visit, etc.
3
just download the game
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>>151448003
I'll take feature bloat and incompetent leadership for 500
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>>151483835

>1) is it a mmo?

As of now the game has been split into two pieces. Star Citizen, which is the multiplayer persistent universe, and Squadron 42, which is the singleplayer story-driven campaign. The persistent universe is pretty much an MMO. Moreso an MMO than a lot of games that claim to be. Most of the ships and characters you meet will be NPCs thanks to instancing and sheer population density though. If I remember right they wanted to have 9 NPCs for every 1 player as a means to fill out the game.

>2) how does the hangar work? Is it a instanced place or is your hangar actually floating somewhere? Can your friends visit you with their ship etc?

Right now the hangar exists as its own little bubble. I'm not sure of the exact details as far as how they want to implement them or which locations you can start from. Hangars will eventually be tangible places but right now they're glorified showrooms with only a passing connection to the Baby PU and the landing zone Area 18. You can switch between the three areas using an elevator in your hangar.

>3) what should I actually download for the next free testing event? Last time I missed the chance to test this game on my pc.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/download

The installer/patcher is always available here. The next free flight event will probably coincide with Gamescom next week. They like to do free flights around events where they do presentations.
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>>151484832
>>151484114

thank you for the answers

>Most of the ships and characters you meet will be NPCs thanks to instancing and sheer population density though

but it is still one server and you could meet everyone?

NPC are not bad, every mmo needs them
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>>151485167

>but it is still one server and you could meet everyone?

If you mean in the style of EVE Online, where every single player is in the same instance as long as they're in the same star system, no. With the amount of resources and bandwidth it takes to keep everything running at the level of detail the game operates on, every player in a star system is not necessarily in the same instance.

That said, they've done a lot of very interesting things with instancing. For example, the outside of a ship and the inside of a ship exist as instances that can be seamlessly transitioned between by players. They're setting up a system where individual areas, ships, and even sections of ships can be separate instances while exchanging information in such a way as to function as if they were all the same instance. This is especially important when they start sticking Capital Ships with potentially dozens of players in the game.
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>>151485442
They called it the zone system. Should be with 2.7 as they'll have to include new netcode with procedural tech, which would otherwise be the instancing system alone.
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guys i actually bought the freelancer pack for 125 burger bucks, how blacked did i just get?
I didnt know getting better ships would be as easy as just stealing them.
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>>151486843
>stealing
Well it is now apparently but I'm sure it won't work that way in the release.

No clue about the Freelancer though except that it looks neat.
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>>151465749
I have to wonder now if I still will be able to put the body kit on my super hornet...
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>>151471119
But what makes Elite so compelling isn’t so much about the game as the experience. It’s the tinkering with and the taking out of a performance car for a Sunday drive, not to rack up more miles, nor to break any speed limits, but to just feel the growl of the engine and the wind comb through what’s left of your hair. To remember those carefree days arched over a BBC Micro or blinking angrily into a Lenslok and to forget for a short while that you have to make 357 people redundant in the morning. Elite is a hermetically-sealed escape capsule and it’s the best there is. Hell, you could fire the game up and just sit there on a launch pad and the sounds are enough to carry you away, so strong is your ship’s presence and so absorbing are the station surroundings.

Taking off, tearing through the station entrance a little too fast and just missing a Python, angling for the next jump, scooping fuel from a blazing sun, spinning the camera around your ship to catch its best profile, starting a fight just for the hell of it, seeing smok rise from the command console, hearing the screen crack and precious oxygen escaping into space and landing back at base with seconds to spare – these are the moments that make Elite essential. Trading, missions, mining – not so much. But it’s ok, we’re not going anywhere.
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Anyone want a key for dreadnought?
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>>151489089
Sure.
[email protected]
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>>151489176
sent
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>>151489504
Thanks pal.
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>>151489557
Make some webms if you can
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Will you gamergaters please stop harassing Sandra Roberts?
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>>151489089
What was Dreadnought going to be
again?
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>>151490096
Looks like WoWS in space.
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>>151490148
So another grindfest? Or is it just gonna be an arena game?
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>>151490240
says 5v5 PvP battles
but with more to be added
I think that's all there is now though.
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>>151490332
>>151490240
In closed beta at the moment and it shows.
And it's a grindfest, yea.
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>>151490389
desu it just looks fun.
Is the green beam some sort of repairer?
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>>151490532
Yep. So far there is 3 ships in each class. Each ship has a slightly different focus.
For example there's offensive support with damaging beams, damage amplifiers but no healing. Defensive support with healing beams, heal aura but no primary weapons. And there's an inbetween.
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>>151488237
you posted the wrong image m80
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>>151454469
I wonder how much of this was from people who hated the idea of TNGS and picked on him because he was an easy target.
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I dunno who said sothis was better than 17 drac for rank grind but they were full of shit because sothis/ceos are spawning fuckall courier missions
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NPCs sound cool as fuck t bh

Is it confirmed if they will show any subsumption at gamescom or citizencon?
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>>151493038
It's on the list of 2.7 stuff, including procedural planets.
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im looking for a federation system with a metric shitload of courier missions

does such a thing exist? It's for fed rank grind
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>>151491438
ikr
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>>151448003
absolute madman
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>>151485568
>the zone system
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>>151493928
Sothis/ceos
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>>151497081
no

barely any courier missions there, and there's only one fed faction
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Anyone have a sothis/ceos annie build on hand?

Ive got most everything d rated for jump distance except my sensors because either they dont have them or the dock just has a-c rating...even ditched weapons because annie a go go no stop now.

Just wanna make 500mil and then become a miner when i play and pretend i have any meaning in korean grindfest.
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>>151454190
I'm on PTU.
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>>151497914
Is a cargo mechanic in already? Or is it just the transporter?
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>>151497985
no cargo yet. It's just the ship flight ready.
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>>151497914
those guns aren't going to make the Reliant any better. It's still garbage.
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>>151498082
And it handles like shit.

>>151498187
They might trick people into buying it.
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How do I get started in X3? I did the tutorial but am still completely lost.
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>>151498453
Develop autism. Alternatively, I think there are YouTube videos to guide people through it.
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>>151498453
You figure out the game. By the time you've figured it out, it becomes piss easy and you get bored of it.
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when do you guys think the mustang D will get unfucked?
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>>151498678
What's wrong with it?
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>>151496921
The Zone poses multiple danger! Do not try to penetrate the secure area! Do not risk your health and life for the sake of dubious profits!
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Is there any point in buying the ~20 quid base package of E:D? Or do I need to buy all the DLC as well to get any fun out of the game?
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>>151499405
it glitchy as hell half time when you get in it you shoot through the roof. Sometimes when when you eva out of it shoots away from you at mach 10 leaving you stranded or killing you on the spot. You can't land it with a broken with. The ports for the missile pods are broken and the shield are always in some form of fucked up state.
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Ded?
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>>151499779
Freedom patch best patch.
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>>151498678
The delta is currently the best Mustang. It murders shit with the dakka and rockets.

>>151499824
Hate to break it to you, but "fun" is not a characteristic of Erectile: Dysfunction. Maybe it's fun doing everything the first or second time, but nothing changes and it's a massive grind for ships that only serve to be the next level of grinding. Save your money for something else.
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>>151500503
Those are bugs? Sounds like standard features for Consolidated Outland ships.

Does the ship still greet you with 'system failure imminent' every time you start it up?
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>>151499824

You'll still get the honeymoon phase with the base game. Having the dlc will extend it for a few hours. I'd say go for the base game, and if you do like and/or if FD doesn't drop the ball in the next update, get Horizons. There's only one dlc out as of yet.
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>>151500973
yup that too and if some gets on ladder while your climbing up it bugs you out are you have to restart your client.
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>>151497914
Shame you can't fly the Reliant like a giant Horten.
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hello darkness my old friend
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>>151500890
wew new wallpaper here
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>>151502053
Drac brother. 40% in lieutenant here.
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>>151473075
>implying grimhex is only for criminals
you can go there and be a slum tourist to shop at their hot topic and show everyone back on Olisar how edgy you are, or go there with a posse of armored marines and mass murder criminal scum in the halls with no consequences. just try not to hit the tourists.
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>>151474714
steam controller works with everything. haven't tried in a few versions. if you try, let me know how it goes for you; I had some driver issues fuck my shit up real good and I'm not sure if they were related or not. if it does happen to you, it's an easy fix once you know what it is.
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Does Elite Dangerous having a modding community?
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>>151502975
You know those pasta that kept being posted about NMS

>I'm going to start up a galactic police and engage any criminals i see

You can literally do that at GrimHex, and on foot.
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>>151502975
>go there with a posse of armored marines and mass murder criminal scum in the halls
You can't actually. Weapons are disabled in most parts of the station. You can use them on the landing pads and in 1-2 secluded sections that don't have gravity.

>>151503108
What's that even supposed to be? Looking nothing like the manufacturer's style seems to be a common theme among fan ships.
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>>151484832
>>151483835
guys the hangar will always be an instanced place, just someday it will be instanced to a particular location and you won't be able to access it from anywhere, and eventually will be able to invite others in.
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>>151502240
100% ensign, I do the Drac>Sothis>bubble triangle

I donated like 15M to get from 75% to 100% ensign. A friend of mine just told me he spent 5M going from CPO to rear admiral
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>>151503340
that was back in december, btw
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>>151497914
that is sexy. I thought the reliant only had a gun on one end? or is the combat variant the one in game for now
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>>151503616
It has 2 S1 hardpoints on the wings and "utility mount caps" on both ends which can be removed for a S3 hardpoint. I assume they're placeholders to some degree.
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>>151497914
>they still haven't had some artist mirror that gatling so they can be symmetrical

>>151497985
cargo mechanics appear to be getting their actual use testing on the Caterpillar, I'm guessing it's release will be the earliest we see cargo mechanics in game.
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>Elite Dangerous
>modding
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>>151503108
what the fuck is that thing it looks awesome. must be the Prospector?

have the forums wailed and whined about not having the cockpit top center like every other ship yet? god I hate them almost as much as they hate uniqueness and fun.
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>>151503243
>You can't actually. Weapons are disabled in most parts of the station. You can use them on the landing pads and in 1-2 secluded sections that don't have gravity.
lame, but the devs have said that's not going to last. they want automated security systems and maybe NPC guards that will blow you away for fighting depending on the station to keep things from turning into a constant deathmatch, but they want grimhex to eventually be completely weapons free (free as in unrestricted) at some point in the future.
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>>151504235
Luckily it's not the Prospector, but some stupid fan ship.
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>>151504472
what is that nozzle even supposed to me
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>>151504665
it's where you inseminate from
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>cg in pladeas
>player group vs NPCs
>dads and fedfags support NPCs
FUCKING STOP IT YOU STUPID FORUMDAD SHITS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>151500774
no
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>>151505927
Don't pretend you aren't erect to the thought of fighting a whale's army clad in identical armor.
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>>151448564
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>>151505927

What's going on there? Are they butthurt over Russians winning the DG and now they're all throwing their weight against them?
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>>151505652
finally some 0G interiors for real space gunfights. when they fix the netcode so firing weapons isn't wonky and retarded this shit is gonna be tight
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Will No Man's Sky be part of this general?
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>>151508516
When the hype and and mad has died down a bit.
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>>151508516

No, they have their own which goes at a pretty nice pace and they weathered the storm of shitposting so they can talk about their game. There's no reason for them to be here.
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>>151508683
this.

I own all 3 games, and I want the NMS crowd to be separate from my super serious space sims for now.
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>>151506207
>whales hiring in bulk
>they went for quantity over quality
>hordes of D rank shitters that can't aim vs you as a real player
>mfw scenes from Star Wars are quickly becoming a reality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gehC8NUAi88
shit shit writes itself man. the best part is that Zurokec was talking about this exact thing being in the plan just yesterday.
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>>151465073
It's so fucking bad
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Why can't we have nice things?
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>>151509723
why is it bad? it goes back to the original look of the GDC hornet, without being quite so cartoony (even though I loved the original cartoony aesthetic)
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space hacking when

I want to sit back in a Herald fucking up an org Idris' systems while the matrix streams across my side monitors and this plays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaOiHVgP3Pw
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>>151509754
Was Tachyon open world or not?
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>>151509886
It makes it look like another aerodynamic piece of spaceplane shit.

the older Hornet, going right back to the original GDC one was blocky as hell, it looked like a Star Wars style spaceship.

But we can't have that, everything has to look as much like a jet fighter as humanly possible.

It no-longer even has the cool X-wing style cockpit.
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>>151508516
It's a dramatically different game with a very different audience (mostly console meme lovers)
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>>151509754

because house is a faggot
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>>151510279
the hornet has always been a spaceplane, there's no getting away from that. the number 1 complaint about it has always been that it was way too fat, the original cockpit was the size of a small car interior. that's fine for a civ craft which the mk1 is, but for military it's bloat.
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>>151510582
Slimming it was good, but changing it's iconic blocky nose and squareness away from being a space-crate to looking like another identical jet fighter was completely unnecessary. It was actually one of the least space plane looking fighters before, which goes to show just how much like spaceplanes every ship is.
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>>151510279
>>151510809
You don't have to fly it if you don't want to anyway. It's exclusive to S42 and they said that you can choose between the old and new model.
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>>151510904
You have to fly it in S42, it's the main ship. I was really looking forward to flying all those missions with that god-tier cockpit view, but they had to fuck that up.

We literally can't have nice things.
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>all those shipfus
>money only for Aurora

why live
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Someone buying NMS pls let me know if it's a terrible PC port.
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>>151504665
dildo for ERP
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>>151511010
I'm sure somebody will mod it twelve minutes after release.
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>>151511010

>god-tier cockpit view
>struts
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>>151511010
If I can live with hideous spaceships in X and Freespace then I'm sure you'll survive a slightly rounded Hornet.
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>>151510279
I think you're over exaggerating how blocky some of the Star wars fighters were. I think the new hornet looks a lot closer to the X-wing now that the old stubby mess did.
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The old hornet model had too much of a Y Wing vibe.
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>>151512901
The x-wing is literally the only exception to the rule, and even that is far, far less of a spaceplane than 90% of Star Citizen ships.
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>>151512070
>being autistic about one fucking strut

It doesn't obscure your view at all, there are UI icons over ships, and it just made the cockpit way more comfy and rugged looking.

People complaining about tiny struts like that are literally retarded or just autistic, it's not like your ship isn't constantly in motion on every axis.
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>>151513649
I'd like to see a full scale X wing rip apart in a wind tunnel.
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>>151513389
>implying the Y-Wing isn't the best shipfu
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>>151513968
because it isn't.

Y'know, I think this was the most disappointing thing about TFA, no new star fighter designs to argue over. They couldn't even give the special forces tie fighter it's own unique panel shape.
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>want to change HUD color
>every single thing i do doesn't change it
I edited both the graphicsconfiguration.xml files in the ED and ED horizons folder, and went into appdata to create the options>graphics>graphicsconfiguration.xml to change it and its still the default orange. Pls help
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>>151515005
Same problem
I used to do it without problems before buying the engies expansion
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>>151515005
May as well wait until they officially implement it in two years after another two 60 dollar expansions
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>>151511362
this pic will never not make me laugh

anyway save your money, earn ships in game once they're done and you know you like them rather than playing the studio roulette
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>>151510064
I want to be an AWACS providing detailed combat information at long range.
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>>151515808
To be fair, each manufacturer has been assigned to a specific studio for a while now and, considering how much manpower they have availible now and how bad the CGbot ships turned out, they probably won't outsource again.
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>>151514790
Well at least you posted an A-Wing. But yeah was a shame they only had X v Tie in that movie.
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>>151516403
Y-wing was my favorite, too. At least from the movies. Virago's my all time fave. Which is why I got the Khartu-al.
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>>151513968

Y-wing was my favorite (and most broken/OP) ship in all of Star Wars Battlefront 2. The lasers were the best once you got used to the velocity, and did heavy damage. Also, getting up to a transport and hitting them with torpedoes melted them in 2 or 3 hits.

Y-Wing will have a special place in my heart, even from X-Wing vs TIE Fighter. Its just a fucking bruiser.
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>>151516862

>He bought the Khartu Al

The only good part of that ship was the opportunity to get a Sabre for 150 dollars. Other than that, its complete shit.
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>>151510561
Well maybe the NCR will ruin your space casino.
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>>151516310
yeah after both CGBot and Illfonic I doubt they'll outsource anything again. but even the best studio does not have a sterling record here.
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>>151517384
Don't care, still most aesthetically appealing ship for me.
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>>151517384
Don't have a Khartu Al, but that is one sexy alien fighter. I want one.
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>>151516862
>>151517038
Y-Wing is top if only for the fact that it served from the Clone Wars to the Civil War.

Too bad those rebs were too lazy to do proper maintenance and lost the covers.
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>>151517384
At least the custom QD animation looks kinda cool.

>>151517602
They outsourced some of the Vanduul ships to those guys a while ago: https://www.streamline-studios.com/portfolio.
Those were probably the assets that were in the leak, which they said were either getting reworked or replaced. For some reason SC is no longer in their portfolio.
Apart from that, I don't really have an issue with F42. Their worst offenses are the Retaliator and Vanguard, everything else turned out pretty good.

>>151518108
>fighter
It's a scout with trash weapons.

Also
http://imperialnews.network/2016/08/reverse-the-verse-episode-2-03-summary/
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>>151503108
No. The game would probably be good by now if it did. Maybe once FD shuts down the servers and distributes the source code.
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>>151518543
>FD
>distributes the source code
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>>151518859
they said they would in kickstarter: jussayin' edition
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>>151518974
They said a lot of things in kickstarter. Like clouds. Procedural clouds.
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>>151518974
>he believed them
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>>151518974

>trusting brabo and sandro
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I wan't to belive
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>>151519631
Gamescom in 7 days, comrade.
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Is Levski located in Stanton?
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>>151520357
No, it's in Nyx. The planets in Stanton are Crusader, Arccorp, Hurston and Microtech.
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>>151511389
It is.
It's so shitty we'll be able to add back NMS to this thread in a few days.
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>>151520056
fug I thought gamescom was this weekend

>>151520357
it will be in 2.7 because the Crusader alpha system is a mash together of whatever's done and needs testing. at full launch it will have it's own system and it won't be on a full planet, but a big asteroid.
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>>151519631
>>151520357

I has question about planets in Star Citizen. Will they have some kind of gravity fall off? Say, if you're within a certain distance of a celestial body, will the gravity begin slightly influencing your ship to go towards it, requiring you to fly farther away if you don't want to have to constantly realign yourself?

If it would be real, I can already see some ship getting fucked in low orbit and then slowly falling towards the planet.
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>>151520357
No, but they are going to move it there until they have jump points working apparently.
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>>151521107
They're already working on an atmospheric flight model and the large (industrial) ships are supposed to be unable to land on planets. I assume there will be something like you described.
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>>151521107
I think that's the plan yeah, and I hope they do it justice.
>luring capshits into high orbit and disabling them, then watching them fall helplessly to ground
someday.
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>>151521278
Is it bad that I got a Redeemer and a Retaliator just to hunt whales?
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>>151520931
rip
I did end up buying it but I'm 100% steam refunding.
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>>151521570
that's about all the retaliator's gonna be good for, but it will be the best for it.

>>151521609
what's the deal, I hear it has huge performance issues on PC?
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>>151521570
>Is it bad that I got a Redeemer and a Retaliator
Yes.
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>>151520056
I half expect them to knock the price of the sabre up just to prevent all those free ccu's from the khartu-al. People were already pissed when the recent subscriber only sale didnt allow upgrades
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>>151448003

So how are people telling themselves that what has happened with NMS cannot happen with SC?
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>>151522078
>that's about all the retaliator's gonna be good for, but it will be the best for it.
I am actually thinking of melting it because of how single use it is in favor of the Polaris whenever that is released.

>>151522139
>baww, someone has nearly $500 dollars to spend on things I dont like!
Good post.
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>>151522078
You can't alt-tab out and back in, it runs like shit, it crashes a lot, it has a console interface, it still tells you to press PS4 gamepad buttons, it has a shitass draw distance, the graphics are outdated.
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>>151521107
>If it would be real, I can already see some ship getting fucked in low orbit and then slowly falling towards the planet.

An impact sufficiently large to displace its orbit like that would more than likely shred the ship or splash the occupants.

Unless the planets are smaller than kerbal ones.
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>>151521273
>>151521278
thanks fampais. It would be fun to see someone get rekt within the gravity influence area and then go at an increasingly fast speed to the surface. Will the speeds that we enter atmosphere at create something like fire at the front of the ships or is this too specific for what they told us so far?

>>151521570
Not at all. I plan to hunt larger ships as well. Sell Redeemer for Gladiator though. I don't think boarding is going to be worth it when you can get trapped in a hallway.
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>>151521570
The retailator is terrible ship that was intentionally designed to need constant fighter support to do anything. Any other bomber would be a better choice, even considering their less powerful torpedos.
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>>151522484
this and the FOV slider is definitely a lie, feels like 60 when it goes up to 100
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>>151522449
Anon, you can spend how much you want, I don't give a shit. But somehow you managed to chose to buy 2 of the biggest fuckups.
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>>151522484
>it has a shitass draw distance
>see people in the nms thread asking "How do i disable all this fog??"

How far we have come.
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>>151522337
Well for one thing, even the current mini persistent universe and space combat is better than anything in nms that involves space ships.
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>>151522538
>Sell Redeemer for Gladiator though.
I have a vanguard and SH though, so I dont really see the purpose of doing that.

>>151522563
Hence why it will now be traded for the Polaris.

>>151522591
>no no, I really dont care that you spend your money in ways that I dont approve of as evidenced by my series of posts about the subject.
>But somehow you managed to chose to buy 2 of the biggest fuckups.
>subjective opinions are now facts.
I forgot that people here get those two concepts confused so often in /scg/
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I sure hope the Polaris can be a Hunter Killer. I want Das Boot in space and the Retaliator doesn't count.
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>NMS
>898 positive reviews
>2135 negative reviews
Most of them complain about the game optimization, but is there anything about the gameplay it self ? Anyone of this thread tried it ?

And SC when ?
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>>151522538
Don't forget the Redeemer has a fuckton of small torps and a enough dakka to damage large ships.
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>>151522836
Well that's not really saying much.

What's the current status of the gameplay loop? Is it on par with ED in it's current state?
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>funding drops like a rock
Truly ded
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>>151523103
>2× (5x S4) – 2× (5x Talon ASIM-20/c Stalker V per rack)
Redeemer updated payload

10 s4 Missiles
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>>151522337
>Implying that they wont patch nms.

Not saying that it wont be too little to late for nms but star citizen gets nothing but vigorous testing.
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>>151523103
what can you do with the redeemer anyway? transporting few soldiers, yes I know but can you make money with it with quests also pve?
Is it worth for pvp somehow?

I like the concept, it remindes me of the Mi-24 Hind
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>>151523025
>Gameplay
Game has not been out long enough.
Or find PS4 review.
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To throw myself into this conversation of bombers n shieeet, given the way that things currently work and will perceivably work in the future, I'm of the opinion that instead of having 6 people crew a single retaliator, You're better off with multiple Gladiators. Mainly because of >>151522563. The retaliator relies on other ships to not get solo-raped by a fighter, even with the buffed turrets.

It has really powerful torpedoes, but the use of the heavy bomber is over when it drops those. If I may drop some squadron autism, a group of 2 retaliators would require 12 - 14 crew to be at full efficiency, and will run after dropping the ordinance. A group of 6 Gladiators (or more, if the turrets are used by the pilot), however, can drop their weaker ordinance in higher volume, but can still fight off fighters or continue to shoot the ship with it's somewhat usable guns, so it stays in the fight.
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>>151522484
>You can't alt-tab out and back in, it runs like shit, it crashes a lot
for a second I thought you were talking about star citizen
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>>151523349
It's essentially a no-brainer upgrade from the cuttle-ass. It has a docking collar, so you can presumably board ships. If it stays in its current state, it can be a good main-ship for a small group of fighters.

>>151523608
but NMS is released as a finished product anon.
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>>151522484
>Alt tab out
>Crashes and can't tab back in
>Restart game and immediately on a different planet
>Can't even lean back in chair with gamepad and treat this like a casual exploration game because the controls are complete asshole

It's very rare that I regret pirating something
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>>151523349
It has one small cargo hold stock and you'll be able to swap out the dropship module for a second cargo hold. They also mentioned a module that can carry a planetary rover.
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>>151523103

I bought a Redeemer when it still had LTI. I've been hoping they'd unfuck the design by they've apparently had the guy who made it working on other shit so it never got done. I was really reluctant to melt it but the Caterpiller + 2 Dragonfly LTI sale finally convinced me.
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>Free Fly Starts next week featuring the Mustang Gamma, Sabre, And Freelancer

Well there you go kiddies. Free Fly with pretty good ships courtesy of Gamescom.
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>>151524358
I am keeping mine until I decide whether or not it will be good for whale hunting and piracy.
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>>151523141
not really. the mini universe is only good for a few hours worth of content, and the arena combat mode is in a horrible state since they're inbetween overhauling the ship component system. Maybe by 1st quarter 2017.
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>>151453646
>check him out just to see what he's up to
>he's being a rampaging lawfag with a squad murdering anyone who goes near Kareah
>exactly what I wanted to do on Grimhex
a man after my own heart.
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>>151523998
Right there with you. Slideshow on a 1080 with latest drivers, regardless of settings. Already deleted, ain't worth my time.
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>>151524875
>rampaging lawfag
>with a max criminal rating
I dont know if you're paying enough attention anon.
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>>151523141

>What's the current status of the gameplay loop? Is it on par with ED in it's current state?

That depends, do you consider a few hours of fun better than hundreds of hours of abject boredom?
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>>151525292
I like the truck driver routine vibe that ED has.

I just want to know what the gameplay loop is in the current game. Mine, fight, sell, pvp? How grindy is it to get a $1000+ ship? More than eve or less than eve?
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>>151523493
To add to this, you could really just have Gladiators, Wardens, and some fighters escort a Retaliator or two if it's serious business.

I wonder if CIG will actually make a way that bomber groups could get jobs to bomb certain ships that aren't vanduul. Say, if you're on the bad side of the law, you get a mission to bomb some faggots 890Jump because he's been fiddling with pirate money or assets. Or a political opponent. That would be the best, most exciting shit ever.
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What an unfortunate OP.
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>>151525590

There's a few simple quests in the current build of Star Citizen, PvP, and some freeform gameplay involving fighting NPCs. Mining, cargo hauling, and shit like that aren't implemented yet. The $1000+ ships aren't even in-game yet and even if they were you wouldn't be able to get them with the in-game currency since barebones persistence was just added recently.

CIG has been all-hands-on-deck making Squadron 42 for the last several months and the additions to the alpha have been simple and steady. If you're looking for a game to sit down and play for hours on end right now you probably don't want to drop $45-$60 on Star Citizen for another couple months.

The $1000 ships are decommissioned UEE Navy Frigates and they're not going to be very common. They were sold in limited numbers and probably won't be something you can just go out and drop a shit ton of UEC on any time you want one when the game gets up and running. Probably going to need a high reputation and contacts in the Navy.
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>>151525923
Shame I missed the TB stream and ragequit. That must've been fun.
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I hope the Herald doesn't end up being a worthless piece of shit. It's the only ship bought.
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Bros please convince me not to upgrade my freelancer to a constellation aurora
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>>151526290
Well the Connie is kind of uglier than the Freelancer
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>>151523493
>>151525610
Why not just put some npc´s into the turrets?
No one ever will fly a gladiator or superhornet with 2 persons.

the retaliator could get some npc´s too
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>>151526184
I'm hoping it has exceptional radar. This would make it a very good ship for people on the hunt or something.

>>151526484
Yes, maybe if NPCs were free slaves we could buy. Straight from Tony Z who's making it, they will cost a salary an have basic "needs", whatever that implies. The SH and GD, since they're small, can have their turrets slaved to the pilot, so the second seat can be empty if there's nothing that a second crew member would be needed for. If someone wanted to utilize full NPC usage for all available positions, 14 would equate to about 7 GDs or SHs (Retaliators have pilot, repairbitch, 5 gunners).

The more I think about it, the less useful the retaliator becomes on a conceptual level. Who the fuck would pick a single-use ship with such high cost over 3 or 4 smaller, easier to replace ships. RIP retaliator †bh
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>>151526484
The issue is that manned turrets on small and medium ships are crap. And the ship handles worse than even similarly sized ships. A fully manned retailator is still terrible.

It's clear the ship just exists to be a slow, fragile, defenseless gimp to build Squadron 42 escort missions around. The same way they only made the Starfarer huge as fuck because they'll do an 'under siege' type fps mission inside a Gemini.
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>Played Elite Dangerous for a few hours when it came out
>Got bored and quit
>"Hmm I wonder why I didn't like the game I'll re-install it and try it again"
>Dog fights are 20 minutes of jousting in space to kill 1 opponent

Ah yes I remember now
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>the meltdown over the PC port is even worse than the PS4 launch

Amazing.
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>>151528185
>>151528024
Im pretty new to this game. Couldn't you just replace the manned turret with a fixed or gimbed? gun?
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>>151528635
How they fucked up combat as bad as they did is beyond me. Should've just copied X-Wing or something if they wanted the WWII stuff.
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>>151528889

Remember kids: A delayed game is eventually good. A bad game is bad forever.
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>>151529147

But they did delay it.
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>>151528952
With a special mount on ships like the cutlass or Super Hornet, yes. But not the kinds of turrets on the Retaliator. They're actually built into the design of the ship itself. They wanted the retaliator to be a ship requiring support at all times.

The thinking is done.
Fuck the retaliator. It's shit.

>>151529147
>yfw NMS was delayed
>yfw it's bad too
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>>151529265

Clearly not long enough.
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https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15451-Gamescom-2016-Details
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>>151529617
na Im not talking about the retaliator specially.

I fell in love with the gladiator, the freelancer and cutlass are great too but I dont like this manned bullshit in smaller ships.

So in smaller ships Im fine?
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>>151529617
I'm not sure, but didn't the description of either the S4 ballistic or one of the S4 mounts state that it was originally developed for the Retaliator?

But even with those, the location of the mounts is terrible and hitting anything with pilot controlled guns is pretty much impossible, considering how sluggish the thing is.
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>>151530101
That's kinda cool for a pic.

Any news on spaceship sales?
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>>151530101
6am and 4am start times for me.

welp guess I'm not watching it
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>downloaded the NMS just to join the shitstorm going on
>run the game
>yep it runs like shit
>roam around a bit ship controls are a fucking mess
>found some temple like structure
>activate a knowledge stone
>words learned for alien species, vjakit for VISION
>are you fucking kidding me
>roam around for some more
>found a settlement and a filthy thargoid inside
>thargoid teaches me a new word, its VISION AGAIN
>realize I cant escape this purgatory
>close the game instantly and resume grinding for the corvette in elite
>oh Braben forgive me, for I have sinned
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>>151530642
We know there's going to be a new ship that may or may not be the Terrapin on Friday. Apart from that I expect the usual Gamescom sale with some limited ships (last year it was the Reclaimer, BMM, Khartu and something else iirc).
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>>151530642
so it looks like Cologne will be the last Earth landing zone.
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>>151530124
Yes. The freelancer turret isn't in a position to be useful as a larger gun hardpoint since it's on the back, but other ships like the SH, GD, and most likely the buccaneer can have their turrets slaved to the pilot without the need for a second crew member.

>>151530569
They did away with that along with the underslung S6 cannon idea. It was in a jump point but I can't remember. Either way, even if you can make the hardpoint a S4 gun like the cucklass or SH, it will still 2 S4 guns, which is jackshit, and even STILL, it has terrible maneuverability.

>>151530791
top fucking kek
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>>151530864
All I want is that M50 or the 350R, but I guess we'll see.

>>151530987
This some lore?
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>>151530791
>nu males sky buyers in a nutshell
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>>151531256
>buyers
though I wish I have bought it so I could refund the game
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is monoboat ballistics still the hot meta?
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>>151531190
they started with 3 guaranteed earth landing zones; new york, moscow, shanghai. they were gonna put a fourth in europe somewhere and Cologne seems like it won that raffle by being their location for events
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>>151531819
>Cologne
Will I be able to ficki ficki people there, I want to fit in.
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>>151523103
Thats a sexy ship...at least at first glance. Would pilot.


So is this ship the most dakka? Is there other 1-3 man craft that has more guns?

The federal gunship in ed is our dakka machine if you know what i mean. 7 hardpoints you can stick multicannons in.
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>>151531928
no in 2900 it will be a strict sharia society and they will cut your hands and dick off
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>>151531819
>moscow

great, back to the motherland comrade

>Köln
ficki ficki WE WUZ SPACE AND ENGINEERS

SHEEEEEEEEEEIT
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>>151531739
Yes. They're still really good for TDM kinds of modes.
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>>151531967

in terms of amount and size of guns, it's up there
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>>151532030
What happens if it is a kaffir though, the Koran states its fine then.

Praise space Muhammad (PBuH)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YP_O3cjSuk

This weeks RTV with the modeler guy and based Tony.
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>>151531819
tbf they also did a poster of Manchester like that for Citizencon last year.
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>>151532118

considering the mini PU runs like hot dogshit that's pretty much all I can stomach at the moment
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>>151531967
It has lots of weapons. If all guns fire forward, it's 1 S3 from the nose, and either 8 S2s (4 S2s from manned turrets and 4 S2s from unmanned side guns) or 4 S2s and 4 S1s if those side guns are as small as I think they are. It also apparently will have 5 S4 missiles. So yes, if it stays this way, it will have the most weapons out of any ship its size but it's fitting for an actual gunship.
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I can't believe it.
Both EDG and NMS were huge disappointments.
Now the only space game I'm looking forward to was the one I thought would be the worse.
I can't believe how bad we got fucked with space ships. The only somewhat decent space games we got are just crafting bullshit.
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>>151532676

Welcome home brother. Put on your robes and join the Cult of Roberts.
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>>151532676
>mfw I used to shittup scg with scamposting when E:D released

not going to copy my greentext from a few threads ago, but I was the same. But it's ok, all are welcome hear to either grieve over E:D or make an occasional NMS post.
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>>151532924
please don't start this now

we've been going so well
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Did they really list an incompatible card as the minimum specs? How? I had a tiny bit of hope left for this game being something to pick up on a sale or so up until now.
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>>151533390
not incompatible but will grant you about 5 fps.
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>>151533205

I think you may be missing the point of the image.

>>151533390

Oddly enough I had absolutely no interest in NMS because it looked like Spore 2.0 to me when I first saw it get announced. Seeing the on-going shitstorm makes me feel confident about my ability to sniff out games that are Dead on Arrival.
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>>151533390
>so may of you are playing! wow!
why does he keep repeating that?
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>>151532563
Hmm but earlier in the thread its made out to be a steaming pile.
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Is 200 million cr enough for a Dadconda?
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>>151533660
It's currently not flyable, but the reason it's shit on is because most think it looks like trash because of the nutcracker engines. It's a long story, but there were different ships that were better that somehow lost to it in a competition.

>>151533390
There's no saving him at this point.

gg
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On the topic of exploration games, has anyone here got Rodina?

Is it worth those 15.-? Played the demo and had some fun but it feels empty given that the planets seem to be rocks and not much more.

>>151533647
It's probably just some reflex at this point.
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>>151534053
>better
Once again /scg/ forgets that its opinions about aesthetics are not facts.
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>>151533647
Because despite the terrible performance of the game graphically and terrible content, he's using that to essentially say

>Hey, look at us. Despite all you haters we fucking sold shitloads, suck our dicks

Man, this game is pretty shit though. And the flying is absolute garbage. No wonder they didn't show off any spaceship combat. It's pure shit with a mouse and tolerable at best with a gamepad.
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>>151533660
It's supposed to be a gunship, yet the interior is wasted on pointless shit like an entire coffee kitchen and the exterior design is terrible. Paul, who's behind it because his team won the community contest with this ship by having the RSI site ddos'd so people couldn't vote for the other team, got hired by CIG a while ago and proceeded to fuck up one of the community's favourite ships.

They even had to add some extra guns to it because otherwise people wouldn't buy it.
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>>151534053

>It's a long story, but there were different ships that were better that somehow lost to it in a competition.

I'd take the Redeemer over the fucking Scimitar.
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>>151534242
>Entire kitchen
>In the redeemer

You're shitting me.
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>>151534170
well, opinions are what they are.

>>151534384
fucking this. The scimitar is worse. Your pic and the Brutus were the best though.
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>>151534683
/scg/ acts as though their opinions about the Redeemer are facts all the time, in fact it is all they do about the ship as it isnt even flyable and therefore you cannot reasonably say anything about it aside from your opinions.
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>>151534474
I wish.
https://youtu.be/sUOwvS9uV3U?t=8m
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>>151534384
That looks like a proper space helicopter.

>>151534242
What did he fuck up? And how? I'm curious.
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http://pureplaystation.com/petty-developer-photoshops-our-mass-effect-andromeda-article-to-bash-star-citizen/2016/08/

lol
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>>151533647
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>>151534874
The Vanguard. The concept model was relatively well received due to its aggressive look and interesting features like internal missile bays and a retractable turret. Apart from removing those completely the ship turned into a fat spacewhale that's 100% Retaliator part copypasta (with a Sabre cockpit).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhiaGAnOalA
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>>151534874
The vanguard

can someone post the comparison pictures? I never saved them.
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>>151535201
Jesus fuck, I was wondering why the turret didnt go into the craft like the concept animation did. That bothers the shit out of me, I really liked that idea for a fast craft to move things to the inside during cruising speed to reduce any potential for damage.
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>>151534857
>We've got a coffee machine to start with

Why is this guy so proud of virtual eating utensils? Especially ones that do not have any impact on the game aside from aesthetics.
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>>151534913

>the doubters are coming back into the fold
>Derek is finally on the business end of internet backlash
>Star Marine is finally coming out this year

What a time to be alive.

>>151535201

Eh, I don't know. I don't really mind Aegis ships sharing assets since they're all from the same manufacturer. I just wish he'd unfuck the Redeemer because it looks terrible.
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>>151535917
There's nothing wrong with sharing assets to some degree, it makes a lot of sense to keep a uniform aesthetic among manufacturers. It just feels like, in case of the Vanguard, it's just kind of....lovelessly slapped together.
Also the Sabre is more or less entirely original, even though it was supposed to be fast-tracked by using existing assets. Still fits the Aegis style and only took a couple of months.
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>>151534053

>different ships that were better
>that somehow lost
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>>151535917
>>151536362
this

you dont need 20 different coffee machine from the same manufacturer.

>>151535917
whats wrong with redeemer? Honest question
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>>151534242

>ddos

proofs?

>guns

they added extra guns because the original design specs were anemic to begin with by comparison to literally everything else

no one likes a liar
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>>151535917
That Sabre is still so goddamn sexy.
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>>151537068

>whats wrong with redeemer?

It looks like the bloated corpse of a parasite infested dolphin, especially compared to the concept art the guy who made it ended up with before making it. The connection point between the ship and the nacelles looks like it's going to snap off. It doesn't fit in with the rest of the Aegis roster. It doesn't hold enough shit to be worth using (the fucking Argo holds more people now).

The only way to save it is a hull redesign and slap a Titan Armor station in that bitch.
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>>151537425
the new cockpit looks better but the whale tail

wew
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>>151537425
>It looks like the bloated corpse of a parasite infested dolphin, especially compared to the concept art the guy who made it ended up with before making it.
Totally subjective.
> It doesn't fit in with the rest of the Aegis roster.
Shocking given that the lore states that Aegis is trying to move in a different direction design wise to distance themselves from their older ships used in massacres of civilians.
>It doesn't hold enough shit to be worth using (the fucking Argo holds more people now).
Seems really useful given its jump capacity of zero.

So really you have nothing to say aside from, "I personally dont like how it looks!"
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I bought a Star Citizen ship pack over a year ago and haven't been following the development at all since they released the application where you could walk around a hanger and view your ship.

What's new /scg/? Is the game ever coming out?
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>>151538730
>Is the game ever coming out?
nope
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>>151538485

>Totally subjective.

So what you're saying is that you don't think it looks like a bloated misshapen clusterfuck of poorly proportioned parts? Because if that's what you're saying then I can safely say you're objectively wrong because that's exactly what it looks like. Just look at its silhouette.

>Shocking given that the lore states that Aegis is trying to move in a different direction design wise to distance themselves from their older ships used in massacres of civilians.

What's shocking is the fact you're using this retarded reasoning in an effort to refute what I said even though the Sabre and the Vanguard are both new Aegis designs.

>Seems really useful given its jump capacity of zero.

More useful than the Redeemer since the Redeemer's primary role in reference to other ships seems to be sitting in the hangar of a Javelin. It's not going to be boarding much of anything its own size or smaller what with the exit ramp and lack of a docking collar.

>So really you have nothing to say aside from, "I personally dont like how it looks!"

Whatever you say chief. You're talking to somebody who bought a Redeemer on the second day of its LTI sale before they added the extra guns to it. I love what the Redeemer is on paper, just not how it's designed. It's poorly conceived and needs significant changes.
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>>151538232
>hating the whale tail

>>151534242
Ya the entire kitchen stuff is a complete waste of space on something that is supposed to be a gunship. However, I recall something about their design being more like an outpost/patrol ship so it would sit on a border or on guard duty and that's why it has the whole live in area. If they do end up reclassifying it as such then I don't really have that big of an issue with it.
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What's the difference between Squadron 42 and Star Citizen?
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>>151539226
>objectively
You are confusing objectivity with subjective opinions about looks, a common mistake in these threads.
> new Aegis designs
The same lore states that the Redeemer is the newest Aegis ship.
>More useful than the Redeemer since the Redeemer's primary role in reference to other ships seems to be sitting in the hangar of a Javelin
The argo must really have a lot of weapons and shields then to make up for the lack of jump drive....
> It's poorly conceived
All you have said is that you dont like how it looks and that your subjective opinions are in fact facts and not opinions.

So really you havent said anything aside from admitting to people that you think your autistic opinions are facts and that we should just believe you because of reasons.
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>>151539626
single-player campaign vs MMO
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>>151537425
>Those Arwing thrusters

Hnnggggggg I hope they open like this in the final version I just found my new favorite ship.
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>Derek is getting BTFO left and right
>Gamescom stuff is coming up
>No Man's Consoleport crashed into the ground like you would at the start of the game
>ED is just like it's universe: empty
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everyone has different tastes

I loved the design of the Imicus in EvE
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So both Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen look pretty awesome. Which should I get? What are some ways these games are really different from each other?
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>>151539626

Squadron 42 is a singleplayer campaign.

Star Citizen is the multiplayer persistent universe.

They're both set in the same setting.

>>151539707

>You are confusing objectivity with subjective opinions about looks, a common mistake in these threads.

No, this is objectively a bloated misshapen clusterfuck. I shouldn't need to break out the dictionary definition of "bloated" or the dictionary definition of "misshapen."

>The same lore states that the Redeemer is the newest Aegis ship.

That's nice, but the Sabre itself is referenced as a "Prototype" so whatever lore you're referring to is contradicted.

>The argo must really have a lot of weapons and shields then to make up for the lack of jump drive....

Is that supposed to be relevant?

>All you have said is that you dont like how it looks and that your subjective opinions are in fact facts and not opinions.

Whereas all you do is pretend like the ship itself isn't an obtuse monstrosity and post completely wrong information that has been contradicted by multiple lore sources including concept sales.

>So really you havent said anything aside from admitting to people that you think your autistic opinions are facts and that we should just believe you because of reasons.

Loving all this projection you've got going on here. Really ties your posts up into a little bow and sells them as the work of someone with a learning disability.
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>>151530987
>Land at Cologne
>Discover it's a primitive luddite Muslim hell hole
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>>151540318
>No, this is objectively a bloated misshapen clusterfuck. I shouldn't need to break out the dictionary definition of "bloated" or the dictionary definition of "misshapen."
>subjective opinions about aesthetics are facts, why dont you believe me!!
Okay, here is an example of a fact, before Nov 2014 the Redeemer was undergunned for a gunship, now since they have updated the guns and mounting points it is more in line with a gun ship. <---That is a fact.

I dont like the way the Redeemer looks, it has strange bumps and the thrusters look stupid<---That is a subjective opinion on aesthetics.

>That's nice, but the Sabre itself is referenced as a "Prototype" so whatever lore you're referring to is contradicted.
A fighter craft is not a gunship, should they share the same general layout to satisfy you opinions about aesthetics?
>Is that supposed to be relevant?
Just as relevant as bring up the Argo at all, so you tell me.

>Whereas all you do is pretend like the ship itself isn't an obtuse monstrosity
Do we need to go over the difference between subjective opinions and facts again?
>post completely wrong information that has been contradicted by multiple lore sources including concept sales.
Where did I say something wrong about Aegis moving away from its old designs for better public image?

I truly love how often people bitch about the Redeemer and have literally nothing to say besides opinions masquerading as facts about looks, a subject which is totally dependent on someones opinions about aesthetics.
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Why does Aegis get all the best ship designs
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>>151540471
>lands in new york

HOL UP
>smacks lips
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Well, I apparently able to run NMS and even get a tolerable frame rate... but christ it's dull. The ship doesn't have enough room to hold things because a tiny hand sized ceremonial knife takes the same sized inventory slot as a fuck load of mineral units, *everything* suit life support, mining multitool, engines runs out of power super fast, mining lasers (both hand and ship) overheat in seconds, for some reason your helmet scanner shows items for twenty seconds then the info just vanishes till you scan again and walking around on foot is slow as shit.
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>canceranon died before star citizen came out
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>>151541034

>Okay, here is an example of a fact

Here's another example of a fact: You're a faggot.

>A fighter craft is not a gunship, should they share the same general layout to satisfy you opinions about aesthetics?

It's cute how you immediately jump to setting up a false dichotomy between "gunship" and "fighter" even though CIG's website classifies the Redeemer as a Gunship and a Fighter.

>Just as relevant as bring up the Argo at all, so you tell me.

No, it's actually not as relevant since the point being made is that the Argo carries eight people whereas the Redeemer's undercarriage carries a grand total of six. One is supposed to be a utility ship and the other is supposed to be a dropship, yet the former carries more people than the latter.

>Do we need to go over the difference between subjective opinions and facts again?

Do we need to go over how you just plug your ears and pretend the ship isn't poorly shaped, as if its primary nacelles are going to break off the moment it hits a pressurized atmosphere? I guess we do since you seem incapable of processing this and instead screech about how you played the Arthur Fact Or Opinion game yet still can't understand the difference between easily observable design traits and opinions directed towards these design traits.

>I truly love how often people bitch about the Redeemer and have literally nothing to say besides opinions masquerading as facts about looks, a subject which is totally dependent on someones opinions about aesthetics.

I truly love how you are defending the Redeemer from what you think are subjective opinions by just repeating "NUH UH THAT'S JUST YOUR OPINION" as if that's not you using your own opinions to justify its aesthetics. You seem to completely lack self-awareness and are obsessed with your own sense of superiority despite being an incredible hypocrite. Bonus points for calling other people autistic during this discussion when you are displaying traits thereof yourself.
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>>151533875
Assuming by dadaconda you mean exploration, if so, yes.
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>>151541746
I'm surprised there wouldn't be some landing site in African filled with Chinese nationals.
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>been glass-eyed scrolling down the thread while distracted by a conference call
>call ends and I actually start reading this utter garbage in front of me

what the fuck are you retards publishing at each other? is this about the redeemer? it totally is. fuck you guys, shut the hell up. this shit is retarded.
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>>151542436
>Here's another example of a fact: You're a faggot.
So you admit that you dont know the difference between opinions and facts, I am glad we agree on something.
>It's cute how you immediately jump to setting up a false dichotomy between "gunship" and "fighter" even though CIG's website classifies the Redeemer as a Gunship and a Fighter.
A ship classified as a fighting ship and troop transport is not the same thing as a fighter aircraft. That is like saying an AC-130 is a fast attack fighter just by the merit that it has guns just like an F-22 has guns. You are literally comparing apples to oranges right now and struggling to find overlap while declaring yourself a winner.
> yet the former carries more people than the latter.
Without ship based weapons that are strong enough to defend itself while it is alone or a jump drive, once again apples and oranges.
>Do we need to go over how you just plug your ears and pretend the ship isn't poorly shaped, as if its primary nacelles are going to break off the moment it hits a pressurized atmosphere
>baww I still think my strongly held opinions are facts and I will insult you until you believe me.
You really arent good at this, are you?
>I truly love how you are defending the Redeemer from what you think are subjective opinions by just repeating "NUH UH THAT'S JUST YOUR OPINION" as if that's not you using your own opinions to justify its aesthetics. You seem to completely lack self-awareness and are obsessed with your own sense of superiority despite being an incredible hypocrite. Bonus points for calling other people autistic during this discussion when you are displaying traits thereof yourself.
Not an argument, it is however subjective opinions.
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>>151541746
Men in Black was 20 years ago, man.
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>>151543060

>So you admit that you dont know the difference between opinions and facts, I am glad we agree on something.

Now we have reached the point where you invent delusional narratives in your head. Great work.

>A ship classified as a fighting ship and troop transport is not the same thing as a fighter aircraft. That is like saying an AC-130 is a fast attack fighter just by the merit that it has guns just like an F-22 has guns. You are literally comparing apples to oranges right now and struggling to find overlap while declaring yourself a winner.

Hey look at all these cute mental gymnastics that have absolutely nothing to do with the game or the Redeemer. Grasping at straws much?

>Without ship based weapons that are strong enough to defend itself while it is alone or a jump drive, once again apples and oranges.

More irrelevant posturing.

>You really arent good at this, are you?
>Not an argument, it is however subjective opinions.

More evidence of you being a hypocrite without an ounce of self awareness.
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>>151534913
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>151543294
>no no guise, you see my opinions about aesthetics are actually facts, here let me list a long string of opinion facts and insults.
>I am the winner guise!
Lel, okay buddy.
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>all that Redeemerposting
Just stop now, anons.
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Real dad here, I've given in. I'm re-installing E:D
I need my deep empty space fix
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>>151543416

And here's the culmination of the argument: A greentext strawman and a single sentence retort. Thank you and good night /scg/ you've been a wonderful crowd.
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>>151543519
It happens every fucking time the ship is brought up. There are always people bitching about how it looks and someone else always points out, that well that is actually not related to why the ship is bad. Then it just devolves from there, every single time.

Why do people still even bother posting the damn thing?
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>>151534913
>Derek Smart, a washed-up developer with nothing going for him

Oh my lord, I'm fucking dying.
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>>151543637
>A greentext strawman
>I am still confused about the definition of the word fact and the term subjective opinion based on aesthetics.
Indeed.
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>>151534913
>Update #3: After reading his website, we’re not sure if this guy is an actual developer anymore; he seems to spend an awful lot of time writing articles about Star Citizen and how much he dislikes it.
Beautiful.
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>>151543830
Well time to rewatch stargate sg1.
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>>151544023

Whereas you're still confused on what the words "bloated" and "misshapen" mean and how the Redeemer is both of those things. But that's okay I'm sure you're autistic enough to fight with me over who gets the last word.

>>151544031

Almost makes you wonder where these articles were months ago when Derek started his lengthy tirade culminating in the bogus Escapist article.
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>>151544737
>Whereas you're still confused on what the words "bloated" and "misshapen" mean and how the Redeemer is both of those things. But that's okay I'm sure you're autistic enough to fight with me over who gets the last word.
If only because you really seem to not understand how aesthetics is totally subjective to the beholder and is not shared among all the user base. If only I could be as bullheaded and obtuse as yourself about such basic terminology.
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>tfw grinding Sothis for a Corvette and it is literally draining my soul and desire to live

I just wanna go play Overwatch and Dota fuck
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>>151545287
listen to the FTL soundtrack while grinding

it helps me immensely
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>>151544737
>Almost makes you wonder where these articles were months ago when Derek started his lengthy tirade culminating in the bogus Escapist article.

Likely trying to suss out who DS is, what SC really is, and how likely it was actually a scam. Actually, for this particular place, probably completely oblivious seeing as they deal with playstation stuff exclusively.
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>Beginning on Wednesday, August 17th we’ll be streaming five days of live Star Citizen game play directly from the our Show Booth in Hall 9 on the Gamescom floor.

hype
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>>151546247
>Wednesday
noice

get hyper niggers. Got mommys credit card. Who needs ships?
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>>151448003
I haven't played Elite since the pre-order beta and I just bought the Horizons season pass to get back into it.

What should I expect nowadays?
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>>151546460
buy me the game plz
the most basic pack will do
ps i'm poor
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https://community.elitedangerous.com/premonition

Wow guys, are you ready to be a part of the epic book based on your immersive choices in ELITE?
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>>151546664
rng grind
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>>151546664
Do you people not do some research before spending your money?
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>>151547073
I did a little, but I want to get back into Elite so I figured I should have the complete experience. I know there's engineers and crafting now as well as rovers on planets, but I'm not sure what use those rovers have. I'm assuming they can mine unique resources or something.
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>>151545947
I listen to podcasts / True Capitalist Radio or right now Dota 2 TI6.
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>>151547762
How do you get 3rd person view in Elite?
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>>151546664
You fucking idiot. It's boring repetitive shit. Expect an endless grind to larger ships that will eventually lead to the only option being uninstallation.
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>>151534913
>Related Items:Derek Smart, News, Pathetic Creature
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>>151547762
You may like Caravan to Midnight then.
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Any of you chucklefucks have some solid numbers on how much damage is converted to heat for thermal conduit and thermal shock on beams?
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>>151547925
In the options you can assign a key to the "Debug Camera mode" or whatever it's called in the current patch. I have it set on the P key.

>>151548196
What is it, a podcast?
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>>151548493
>What is it, a podcast?
Pretty much, it is hosted by John B Wells, he was fired from C2C for calling Obama a communist.

They cover the economy and alt news that the MSM doesnt report on. Day before yesterday he had on the program the parents of one of Seal Team 6 who were talking about the fact that the DoD knew there were Taliban on the rooftops when that helicopter was shot down. He had internal DoD intelligence documents about the event.
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>>151547935
Yeah okay so what's a better space game then eh? No Man's Sky is definitely not for me. Star Citizen is never coming out. Can't even think of another similar game.
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>>151548687
Sounds good, truth be told TCR is a bit tin foil hatty and preachy, and Ghost just keeps saying the same things over and over, and I'm also kinda tired of Alex Jones' constant fearmongering.

I'll make sure to check it out, thanks anon.
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>>151548967
The show tries to stay away from woo-woo subjects unless the person talking about the subject has extensive credentials or researched material. One of my favorite interviews is with Dr Joseph P. Farrell about whether or not the nazis ceased to be at the end of WWII or managed to slip away and what sort of things they were researching at the end of the war.
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thanks Reddit
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>>151545287

>hostile
>some of the engi bases are in federal or imperial space

I think FD secretly hates powerplay but doesnt want to remove it because the dads would get mad.
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>>151550456
how did it get so hyped?
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>>151550456
Positive review:
>The refund button works well
topkek
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Is there any reason to launch Elite: Dangerous without Horizons? Steam always asks when I launch and it's annoying.
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>>151550828

Sometimes it helps because you can fall into a planet or succumb to some other hilariously incompetent piece of code and opening the game with no Horizons will just spawn you in orbit instead.
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>>151550694
Everywhere I go everyone hates me :(
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>>151551270

That's what happens when you fly a FDL.
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>>151551270
kill them, kill them all
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How much does an explorer conda cost?
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In Elite do you fly with mouse and keyboard or just keyboard?
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>>151551476
But it's so pretty and it flies so sexy...

>>151551584
Why do you think I bought the FDL for?
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>>151551980
Looks like you're flying in a floating field of shit.

No seriously
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>>151550735
no idea; they had the same bland trailer every year at E3 and other Expos
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>>151534913
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>>151552315
It looked like chocolate cereal to me, not shit.
But I can see where you're coming from.
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>remove NMS from OP from some anon saying it'll bring shitposting
>k
>NMS general was full of shitposting

>mfw now NMS is fucking ravaged across the entire internet with asspain beyond what should be physically possible

Whoever that anon was who recommended the OP change, may RNGesus bless your soul. This shitstorm is astronomical.
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>>151552872
despite le ebin meme faces that comic is p fun
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Why does the Sidewinder just look like a doorstop? I get it's the starting ship and very basic, but damn it's just SO simple.
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>>151539928
Wrong.....ed is like brabens soul....empty.

Damnit i just wanna wing up with some mates and mine or bounty hunt or both. Doh


So, in star citizen not every player ship is jump capable? Do i need to see a stream to get the jist? Is it like frelancer with trade lanes and jump points and cruise speed? I probly shouldnt let hype build.....but ed has got me so down. The only upside is i havent bought horizons
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>>151552872
There were a couple, I was one, rageface comics are cancer.
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i've been getting SC shilled on me for a long time, is it worth playing at this point or should i wait for a more complete product

this isn't the first time this has happened and i should have waited
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>>151553076
>>151553338
>he didn't read the filename

I searched for "dodged a bullet" since /scg/edg/ dodged a massive bullet here, but I haven't seen a ragecomic in years.

So glad we're comfy though.
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>>151553359
$60 should be worth it for SQ42 alone, with a bonus of an entire online persistent universe. The alpha of the PU will give you a few hours of fun, but won't keep you long though, so if you want a game right now, best to wait for 2.7 or solar system.
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>>151553359
Speaking as someone who pledged hundreds of dollars on day one and would do it again, you should wait.
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>>151553359
Imo you can wait tell 2.7 or Squadron 42 is out if that is how you feel.
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>>151553579
Ah, you got me. Bastard.
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>>151553318
The only ships that can't jump are: Merlin, Argo, P 72 Archimedes (merlin for zooom) and the 890J's personnal transport. They're classified as snub ships and can't Qdrive or jump.

>>151553359
wait. It's best to simply forget about the game for a few years. There's no rush.
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>>151551813
if you gotta ask, you can't afford it

the hull alone is 130M
the fuel scoop alone is 90M
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>>151553318

The grand majority of ships in SC are jump-capable, the ones that aren't are usually attached to a capital ship and act as escort or as a utility vessel. It doesn't use trade lanes like Freelancer, it has a quantum drive which is sort of like a warp drive or lightspeed jump in star trek or star wars, and travel between systems is similar to freelancer, except instead of jump gates it's wormholes.
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>>151553872
Wow, so dragonflys have qdrives? Awesome. :^)
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>>151554105
cheeky breeki

already forgot that thing existed.
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>>151553359
wait m8, or be filled with h8. I just tried to play and had this wonderful experience after taking ten minutes to get through the fucking airlock.

>>151554105
dragonfly isn't a ship.
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>>151554612
>dragonfly isn't a ship

According to who?
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>>151554612
That could be related to you trying to play on a potato.
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>>151555012
never had this problem before, the game just turned into a slideshow in the last couple patches.

>>151554769
according to the developers that came up with an entirely new classification for it somewhere between ground vehicle and snub fighter
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>>151555378
I have never had that problem ever and I play on an old computer.
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>>151555529
have you played 2.4.1? it's been constant for me. gtx670, i5 3570k
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>>151555378
It shouldn't be a slideshow but you are not going to get over 30 fps in the Pu RIGHT now tell 30fps on a full instance.
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>>151555825
Yes, I was just playing yesterday and my biggest problem was the game crashing sometimes after I exit my Warden Vanguard. I have literally never experienced your issues in my constellation.
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Will there be a way to make a custom travel location? So, I can sit in some random place in space and create a place on the Qdrive screen that people can quantum travel to? Or maybe, a waypoint for only people we want to see it/org members?

I'd imagine that if this was going to be a thing, a Herald will be the one doing it.
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Loving this.

>be miner
>get shot

fucking NPCs.
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>>151556193
Presumably, yes.

It would be the mechanic to aloow selling the coordinates of resources, or derelicts, etc.
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>>151557127
>carebears getting 'griefed' by NPCs
can't wait for the bug reports
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>>151557504
[CIG: Fix Your Fucking Game]

"I cannot describe how frustrated I am. I spend hundreds of dollars for this game on a nice ship to make some small money. Yet CIG thinks "NOOO, you don't deserver this!" and a FUCKING NPC GOT ME KILLED. Never in my life . . ."
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>>151558183
Nah they wouldn't be so direct. The implication that they died to an NPC without some gamebreaking feature preventing them from fighting back is too embarrassing for a professional carebear.
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>>151558183
>>151557504
>>151557127
I hope NPCs can hire players to bounty hunt other players if they break contracts and shit. Like if a hauler takes a big mission, then cancels it and sells the goods for a higher profit, the NPC that gave the mission generates a new one calling for bounty hunters to take him down.
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>>151558183
[Bugged NPC]
>I took a mining job off the Levski board, but when we got there the miner turned into a pirate somehow and started shooting me. I didn't even bother trying to fight it because I shouldn't have to deal with this, I expect my ship and lives to be reset. The NPC's name was Ed Teach flying a converted Cutlass, something's obviously broken here
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>>151558552
>NPCs hire Players/NPCs to bounty hunt others

Oh man, kill off the dads. I love it. As long as it can't be abused though.
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>>151558894
>As long as it can't be abused though.
Why play an online game at all then? Humans will find a way to abuse anything that is available.
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>>151558552
NPCs will hire players to do shit without a doubt.

>>151558894
It's hard to say

On one hand, you can say "You can't put a bounty on someone's head without a valid reason." But then, what if two organizations are in an unofficial war in unclaimed space but want specific people dead in another org? That's a valid reason, since they're at war, but I'd be hard pressed to think a bounty system can adapt to this shit.
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>>151559014
>Why play an online game at all then

Online games require rules, just like real life to function best.
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>>151558894
how could you even abuse that?
>steal someone's ship while they're offline
>take a job using their Hull ID
>sell off the goods rather than delivering
>their ship is missing and they have a bounty next time they log in
that actually sounds hilarious
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Neutron stars freak me the fuck out.
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>>151558817
>I didn't even bother trying to fight it because I shouldn't have to deal with this
If he was in a prospector he'd die anyway. A fucking 140 dollar ship having the worse firepower and shields than the game's starter ship is pretty fucking rubbish, built for mining or not.
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>>151559303
>how could you even abuse that

I mean hopefully there's a limit to the pre-requisites to place a bounty. It wouldn't be fun if some rich asshole can just place one for every player they meet.
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>>151559413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrMvUL8HFlM
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>>151558183

Fix what game?
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>>151559976
The game.
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>>151559693

Welp there goes the next 3 hours.
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>>151559505
well for lawful side sure, but they're gonna have a less reputable bounty system for criminal areas.
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>>151563883
Looking good. Can't wait to fly mine.

Yellow or black Dragonfly /scg/?
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>>151564071
Black, of course. Not a fan of bright colors.
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Oh fucking hell, NMS does that long ass star field thing every time you start the game not just on a new game.... Also you apparently can save in space, you start back at the last save before you left a planet/station
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>>151564942
Err... *can't* save in space
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>>151564071
Yellow. Love the yellow/black color combination.
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>>151563883
so wait, does it work in space too with a suit, or is it a land bike?
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>>151567569
Both. It can't transition from ground to space though.
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WTB modular terminals
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>>151454197
Did I bully Arakk too hard?
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>They aren’t interested in having people hire NPC’s to do their bidding out of sight because then it becomes a different game that they’re not looking to have

Thank god.

Fuck those dadwhales who want to run a space empire all by themselves.
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>>151569646
I see there's a couple of dads migrating.
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>>151569646

Is that a fucking fridge with a giant screen on it?

Why
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>>151570171
Smart fridges are the future. And the future is retarded
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>>151570347
You now realize you will never jack into your fridge watching a times square marquee of whats in the fridge and what you want this week for dinner.

>>Hello dave, i cant let you buy that mac and cheese for thursday night because it exceeded your calorie count for that day
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Remember when they said that if we had multiple game accounts, we can could have something like personal NPCs? I know CR has said something like that, but I can't remember which 10ftc it was

With the recent update on their plans for NPCs, this has me thinking that you can have a few of these guys as personal NPCs to make into anything if you train them enough. They can essentially be 24/7 guards, in addition to whoever you hire. Should be a cap though, so maximum 2 or 3 of these guys per player. What I also want to know is if you can have NPCs do tasks for another player so you could say "Defend [other player]", or maybe even make custom commands in some way
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>>151569646
11/10 reflection
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ED and SC

https://youtu.be/oxKCPjcvbys
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>>151564071
Green and purple respray.
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>>151574023
Yeah right, more like https://youtu.be/8MC0G-Lbuuk

And devs like https://youtu.be/di60NYGu03Y
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>>151523493
>>151525610
With this I think it's safe to say that the retaliator won't have a place in bomber squadrons. There are too many cons to deal with (crew, defendability, speed, etc) than there are pros, and the only perceivable pros are having a single size larger torps than the Gladiator and range. I can see strategies revolving around just Super Hornets and Gladiators, honestly. Maybe a few Vanguards.

Sad I missed the good bomber discussion earlier
It's what I want to do most but I wasn't available :(
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>>151569646
>being a mall cop
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>>151576681
I'm still mad that the Vanguard turned out the way it did. Apart from the design, it's just somewhat undergunned really. Having nose guns that can't be swapped is a giant disadvantage. A single S4 gun doesn't really cut it, considering the Hornet can also mount one. Really depends on how they implement S5 guns. Ballistics are ouf of the question anyway since the pips will never even remotely line up with the nose guns. Oh, also they had to fuck up the shield hardpoints of course, but that's another story.
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>hungry, no food around
>go buy frozen tendies and an energy drink from the nearby Walgreens
>cashier asks if i've played any No Man's Sky today
>"yeah, i tried it, wasn't a big fan--a bit too simplistic"
>"how about kerbal space program?"
>"yeah, I got a couple dozen hours in it! is that what you're playing?"
>"No, I don't play video games."
what the heck i feel so used
i don't think i can speak to another human for another 2 years
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>>151577657

I'm hoping the whole thing is reworked. The Vanguard was my shipfu, but then they raped it.
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>>151577657
>S5 gun

The S5 guns are no longer some kind of magical super weapon. The constellation can mount 4 of them. The Starfarer top turret can mount 2 of them.
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Can someone post the JUST psyduck thing some guy found in no mans sky?
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>>151523301
>Implying NMS will be patched
Allow me to introduce you to the VISION.
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>>151578040
Yes, I know. That's why I said 'guns'. Maybe there's one that has the same projectile speed as the S2 nose guns, who knows. But apart from that, with the maneuverability nerfs to the Constellation I doubt that it's going to do much fighting. May just be able to absolutely obliterate similarly sized ships then, but probably not fighters. At least I hope so. That would ruin any resemblance of balance the game has.

>>151577958
So do I, anon. Better get that free CCU to the happy merchantman next time it's on sale though.
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>>151578324

this thing looks positively retarded
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So what's the estimated flyable ship count "by launch" at this point? I keep losing track and all the fighters are starting to blur.
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>>151579141
prob. like 100 including variants
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>>151579141
Two years ago there were sixty or so without counting variants.
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>>151578961
Don't you like winglets, anon?
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>>151580162

unironically looks like one of the shitty fan designs posted on the forums
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>>151580162
Winglets are the best.
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>>151580162
My shipfu. Still can't believe there is a ship this sexy made by CIG, it'll look nothing like this when we get it.
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>>151580358
At least they're still working on the concept. Ironically it's by the same guy who also concepted the Gladius and Sabre and did some work on the Starfarer.
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>>151580506

aren't those called scimitars now?
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>>151580570

would explain all the shitty winglets
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>>151580626
scimitar-class winglet
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>>151563883
Can you race it?
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>>151582030
https://www.robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link//15389-Drake-Dragonfly-Q-A-Part-1
>How does the Dragonfly compare in speed to other ships?
>Right now, we’re currently working off an SCM speed of 180 with a max cruise speed of 300. We want the acceleration to these speeds to be a bigger hallmark for the Dragonfly, so while it should overtake most freighters, it won’t be outrunning the fastest of the fast.
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>>151582030
now THIS is podracing
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tfw they know the ship is so bad nobody wants it at full price
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https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/4xfoic/thank_you_cig_in_light_of_nms_release/
we did it reddit pc gaming is saved
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>>151583651
Bah... I wish they'd just up and knock the tana's price up so i can use the upgrade tokens I'm sitting on and then forget the rubbish ship exists
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>>151584016
NMS was a serious failure. I'm so glad I followed my instinct.
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>>151448003
What happened to no mans sky.
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>>151586681
Bland, overhyped ps4 indie title that got a terrible pc port
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>>151586681
go ahead and check their general ;^)

you live under a fucking rock, don't you?
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>>151586681
they contained themselves in their own board plus >>151552872
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What's a decent HOTAS kit I can get right now to get back into ED, and also for getting into some flight sims (looking at DCS and Prepar3D). I had last played last year with a Saitek X52 Pro which I had to sell due to moving halfway around the world. It was decent, but build quality was really meh, and it was limited due to being fairly out of date and the throttle and stick being a single unit/controller. I was looking at the X56 but all the reviews seem to suggest it's a piece of crap with even less quality control than the X52. Should I just buy another X52?
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>>151586681
Has its own general now, new game and all.

Good thing too, what with the ridiculous amounts of shitposting going on in that thread.
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Did Derek ever sue mandalore or did he bitch down as usual?
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>>151586896
Do you really even need to ask?
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>>151586896
>derek
>taking any kind of action against anything legitimately

Maybe you're new around here, but derek is quite literally a shitposter. Perhaps the most persistent one to ever exist.
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this game is basically scientology right?
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>>151589398

It's science fiction if that's what you're asking
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>>151589510
no i mean with the brainwashing and how it monetizes hope
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>>151589532

I don't remember those being features in the game. A brainwashing minigame would be kind of cool, dunno how it would effect players though.
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Spent two hours looking for modular terminals missions, found one (1) with a total gain of four (4) items. Looking at about 25 more hours in game before I get the privilege of grinding more mats for the fucker Qwent.
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>>151569646
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>>151591120
Are you doing it in a system where you have decent rep? I did it in Gende, where I'm allied with everyone because I used to abuse ALD rating 5 bounty hunting there, and I got a modular terminals mission with almost every board refresh. It's also a high tech system, that might have something to do with it.
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>>151591165

Is this the Star Citizen model of dad?
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>>151591334

I tried doing Sothis/Ceos courier jobs, I'm allied to everyone there.

>high tech system

Could be. Haven't tried that, neither my """home system""" or Sothis/Ceos is high tech. Will try tonight.

Then I'll just have to grind him out and then get 25 unknown fragments and travel 5k ly before I can grind mats for grade 5 dirty drives... fuck.
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SPACE LEGS WHEN?
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>Star citizen dont have manufacturers who are based on Russian/soviet and American aircraft manufacturers

mehh


They woud have already a good story
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>>151569646
What even is the point of being a mall cop if you don't ride around on a segway?
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>>151595641
>do all day nothing
>get money
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Space sluts when?
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>>151541982
Space games are meant to be boring as fuck

it's a kind of tradition by this point
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>>151599313
This is true, but I got bored with NMS in a couple hours. ED lasted me a few hundred, at least, and it remains to be seen how much time I'll be able to sink into SC, but I suspect it's going to be quite a lot.
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>>151599514
I don't suspect anything except that there's a high chance it will blow

A massively space game hyped up to all incredulity? Your cynicism should go to overdrive. That should be the default reaction.
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>>151599645
I'll be surprised if it's bad. It's already reasonably fun and the rate of progress is picking up. I'm not expecting it to be the greatest thing ever, but there's no real reason to think it's going to be shit at this point, either.
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I quit the game roughly a months or two after spacetrucking and missed the expansion? Did anything change with the expansion aside landing on planets?
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>>151593673
I thought anvil was supposed to be from moscow.
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Been gone about two weeks /scg/.
Did Ben die or something? The forums seem to be way calmer and more reasonable than usual like some shit happened
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>>151600250
A semi popular video came out showcasing their autistic ways.
Sandi quite social media due to goons/Derek
Gamescom is soon

One of those probably
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>spawn on Olisar
>ALL PADS FULL
>wait five minutes
>ALL PADS FULL
>wait another five minutes
>ALL PADS FULL

>take some fag's Mustang Alpha
>fly to Covalex
>get out
>some cunt warps in and blows up the ship
>whatever

>fly into Covalex
>approach closest green tablet
>get shot six times with a shotgun by some faggot who is sitting in a corner waiting to kill people

Well this alpha is a pile of shit and has a playerbase to match.
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>>151600416
What video was that?
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>>151600593
umad?
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>>151600661
Reddit imploded, Derek threatened to sue
www.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DIHUbzzKJXBc
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>>151578040
>turreted S5 guns
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>>151600593
Sounds like it was a good day to be a gangster
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Alright, guys. How many of you cucks shilled out for SC? I jumped on the cheapest $45 deal I could find back in Feb and I really like the progress they're making with this game. So I've gotta ask. Should I upgrade to a better ship? Or just wait it out for an official release so I can buy shit ingame?
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>>151604650

wait for the official release and buy shit ingame
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>>151605005
>implying the grind in the persistent universe won't eclipse the grind in elite dangerous ten times over
>implying the game won't be LITERALLY pay to win
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>>151605283
If its better than korean grindfest and i can join a guild and do space shit id pay2win. The soul crushing loneliness of space sucks.

All im doing ia running an annie back and forth doing sothis/ceos. I have 130mil, an annie and a full kitted fdl. Id love to play in open but the server craps out after a few jumps. Switch to solo and no more interuptions. It truly is a single player experience.
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If only we could somehow harness the power of the autistic rage over NMS to improve ED.
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>>151606654
Not a chance, the next development preview will tease space legs

Naturally using your space legs will be restricted to walking on planet surfaces. Entering and exiting your ship is done with a black loading screen. There will be literally nothing to do on your space legs other than look at how big your ship really is. You wont be able to enter stations on your legs, either
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>>151606654
Lots of those autists are flooding into ED, ED was in the Steam top Seller list again. Maybe the sudden influx of cash and the amount of anger about shallow space sims will make braben hire people who actually understand game design. Or almost certainly not
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>>151607080
I want to believe that if they end up bitterly enraged by ED it will somehow affect Planet Coaster sales.
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>>151605283
If the careers, job system, and NPC/ organizational interaction are exactly as described in their current design docs and descriptions, the 'grind' in Star Citizen will be quite fun. I'd be hard pressed to call it a grind if things turn out the way they were described since there's a kind of complexity to doing something like mining, which is notorious for grinding. You have various scanners for different stuff in the asteroids, volatile gas pockets or something, refining and selling (in an orion). This, coupled with other things, will at least make it more than point and click like E:D or EVE.
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>>151600212

Anvil is a Terra company iirc
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>mining Osmium for RNGineers
>get massive amounts of Painite
>spend hours finding enough Osmium
>go to unlock the 10 painite engineer afterwards
>mine from same ring
>hundreds of tonnes of Osmium
>no painite
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>>151600141

Engineers. You get to grind more stuff so a string of text posing as an npc can take your grinded stuff away and mod one of your modules, giving you an rng-based effect.
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>>151608630
>string of text
>tfw grinding fed ranks, rank up messages bugged out and sent me rear admiral for warrant officer, and next up for next rank, until I got past Admiral, all the while the actual messages for warrant officer were completely blank
>now all my rank ups are single blank messages titled "federal navy promotion to <x>"

Really knocks the wind out of your sails when even your congratulations are bugged.
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>>151607803
>mining mission for osmium
>offers 4 comodities as reward
>it's osmium
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>>151599313
eve online is boring too but I managed to play all 30 days in the trial and I would continue... but not for a monthly subscription..
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>>151609085
You can pay with PLEX, Anon.
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>>151578062
I know this is super late, but here.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FanEYdkFQXA&feature=youtu.be
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>>151609239
you cant farm all that money in 30 days... atleast not a newbie with a new character and without help from others.

I tried and could maybe MAYBE manage it when I would play 20hr a day
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>>151610098
Well, you pay for a month to keep getting your money up, then pay PLEX after that. $15 for an MMO isn't a bad price.
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>>151511362

was alread posted here

>>151609551


but still this guy cracks me everytime up..
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>>151610098
Nah, you could probably manage it as a noob with a bit of luck.

Exploration is insanely profitable, but also high-risk. People will sometimes even leave the sites alone as traps making them into d-scan grounds.

Though, given the price of PLEX has tripled since the last time I played, ostensibly due to the world's economy.
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they're waking up
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/4xif4q/so_it_seems_that_star_citizen_is_now_my_final/
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>have slow download speed
>want to prepare for next weeks free flight
>installed launcher
>actually can not download as long as I dont have a ship

....
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>>151587090
>motherfucking Jedi Knight reference on /scg/

Wtf
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>>151611068
DF2:JK is my second favorite vidya of all time, can't help it. deus ex is #1 if you were wondering.
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>>151611257
My sub saharan sibling.

You always see people obsessive over JKII and III, but the original with the cheesy FMVs was the absolute best.
>>
So I played a bit of E:D again ... what's the next step after the Viper Mk III? The IV seems to be exactly the same in terms of combat ability.

I really just want a bigger boat so I can try one of those, local station doesn't sell any though. Then again I'm only at 400k Cr, so no clue where that gets me.
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>>151586863
This one looks interesting, not out till next month, if they're still on schedule.
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>>151611630
>all those coolie hats
Yeah I need something like that at some point. The X52 has way too little of them.
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So, ED

I started today, have 50k creds. Should I buy a hauler or should I wait for the Adder?

Is there a point in making my way to core Federation or Imperial systems? Ships available there should be different right?
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>>151607265
I just can't believe anymore, we heard the same shit from Braben about ED, the same shit from Chris about Strike Commander and Freelancer.

I hope they manage though it. I really do.
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>>151607080

I bought ED today precisely because NMS sucks fucking balls

I used to play frontier and first encounters heavily though, guess that makes me a dad.
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>>151611516
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>>151611959
Adder
and no, no real point to going to core systems yet.
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>>151611959
Only difference between empire and fed space are that they sell their respective ships on some stations

A rank your FSD ASAP, fill your sidey with cargo racks and get to Sothis/Ceos. get rid of your guns and shields, too.
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>>151611516
The IV is a slow bastard. Maybe a Diamondback or Vulture.

>>151611836
The stick has a good rep and the throttle looks decent. I think it's like $120 or so.
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>>151611516
Asp. Head to sothis. Take missions
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>>151612179
>telling a guy with 400kcr to get a DBS or a Vulture

Oh you.
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>>151612007
>I just can't believe anymore

It's ok. I understand your position on this from being burned by E:D, and NMS if you actually bought that shit pile. It all adds up to us just having to wait and see. I have full confidence that CIG can make these things interesting. It'll need time, but I'm willing to wait another 4 years or so if it means we can get a game that'll last the next decade with expansions and all types of player generated fun, like wars, new star systems, or what have you.
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>>151612103
>those prices, whelp there goes the motivation.

>>151612235
>sothis
What is there to do there?

>>151612179
So around the same as the X52, which is fair enough, I might go for one of those when I upgrade. This thing here is old as hell at this point.
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>>151612742
>what is there to do there

hauling missions that give ~5M for 10 tons
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>>151612260
He's only a few bounties off a Diamondback. Vulture, sure, that will take longer.

>>151612556
Since I haven't bought into SC I'm just sitting back, checking in with the progress every few months.
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>>151613097
Shit's so damn far away though. I'm in LP-751-1
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Do you think planet exploration in Star Citizen is gonna be beefed up to the extreme now they see what NOT to do because of NMS?
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>>151613138
What's he gonna do with a stock DBS and no insurance? Cultivate disappointment?
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>there is a /v/ thread on /scg/ RIGHT NOW
>the orgposters are in it

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>>151613492
Not to mention retards defending Smart again.
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>>151613492
>>151613592
At least this thread is still comfy.
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>>151613138
>>151613398
>DBS
Well is it useful now or not? It's not like this Viper III is super outfitted either.
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>>151613749
It'd be useful if you had another million. It's great when outfitted well.
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>>151613398
Well obviously he should save enough to put some guns on it and cover insurance. But he doesn't have to a-rate it in a single go.
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I'm bored as fuck

who wants to hold an autistic and pointless discussion on 20 ship team compositions in Star Citizen for various activities like invading vanduul space or fucking up Idrii
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Meanwhile in Germany

http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/star-citizen/news/star_citizen,48820,3301173.html

>Nevertheless, the hate campaign has continued in social media. The driving force behind it is ex-developer Derek Smart, who tried to discredit Sandi Gardiner personally and attacked her family.
>ex-developer
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>>151614020
who builds a carrier for just 1 fighter?
it just doesn't make sense anon!
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>>151614141
Beautiful. Dragging Smart out into the light for what he is makes me so happy.
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>>151614348
It's written by the guy who made the LOD video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7n29gEV18w). He also linked pic related in the article. Savage.
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>>151614269
Makes sense if it's a racer, like an 18 wheeler.
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>>151614269
You say that, but a system like this would be used for extending the range of the fighter.

Examples of real life occurrences would be that russian air-carrier that had a bunch of I-16s strapped to it. It's not exactly great, but for a game it's a good enough concept.
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>no flight sticks with a twist feature and a decent number of buttons and hats besides saitek shit.
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>>151614475
Somebody said it last year already, but seriously: Smartie needs to seek help.
Some sort of counseling or something. This kind of obession can't be healthy.

And while there is a certain lulz factor in doxing people, you just don't do that to sombody with young kids.
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>>151615451
Logitech. I have a Logitech Pro to accompany my CH Pro Throttle. Gets the job done. Also worked pretty well in BMS 4.0 when I used it.
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>>151614269
It's actually a repair ship. It's currently thought to be the best support vehicle to be in the game.

>>151614141
I have enough autism for this

I plan to invade vanduul space in the beta, so for 20 ships I guess the most unbeatable team would be
>6x SH
>6x Sabre
>4x Gladiator
>1x Redeemer
>3x [whatever small repair ship they eventually make]

All energy weapons, no large ships allowed. They're big, slow targets that are hard to defend and are bound to be focused due to size by ships like pic related.
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>>151614269
>>151615191
Can the crucible repair (or refuel) ships thet do not fit into the bay?
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>>151615490
Apparently he also got permabanned from reddit for participating in opening a hate sub against Wulf Knight and doxing his wife after he called Dirks bluff on the FTC investigation.
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>>151615609
it appears so
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Make way for my favorite best ship design that I hope is one day in game.
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>>151615609
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZHQYws8MNo
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>>151616169
Why do you continue posting this? It will never be in the game.
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>>151616702
I've posted it once, this post.
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>>151617361
I've seen it every single thread. Nevermind.
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>Was going to make a pastebin for alternative space games that are coming out/playable
>Pastebin refreshed and erased 10 minutes of sourcing

Welp.
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>>151617682
Whenever I type long posts, I always copy the whole thing to my clipboard every few sentences or so. Usually I type it in text edit then copypaste to whatever place I'm trying to post to. This is after I lost 7 paragraphs of information I was giving someone elsewhere when the internet decided to kill itself temporarily.

don't give up
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>spend half hour searching asteroid belt looking for the new outlaw base
>finally find it
>try to land, some asshole starts shooting at my ship
>can't hop out of ship before it explodes because CIG changed the fucking 'get out of seat' button again.

The place needs some landmarks or thief signs to make it easier to find. It was easier to just get a wanted level then suicide than actually fly there.
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Here we go. If next OP wants to incorporate this or anyone wants to clean it up or add to it, everything that I could remember, with some outliers such as KSP

http://pastebin.com/ngckGufJ
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Apparently, Hot Topic survives into the year 29XX

Also noticed that there are finally pirate npcs in Cutlasses now. So no more jokes about how even the npcs won't fly that piece of shit, I guess. Npc ships seem way more missile happy now.
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>>151619902
Hot Topic is literally built upon memes. They will be around forever.
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Hey lads will SC run ok with medium settings?


i7-920 clocked to 3,4GHz
R9 380 Black Edition(overclocked) 4 GB
6k ram ddr 3 1333 (probabl will upgrade to 12gb 1600)


Im not graphic whore but it should not look like ps2
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>>151619902
>there are finally pirate npcs in Cutlasses now
Every time I encounter one they fly off and explode on their own.
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>>151620537
All I can say is that it runs meh with some settings in the config off with my 970.

>>151619482
KSP still has a general doesn't it? It'd belong in the engineering games one anyhow if they didn't anymore.
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>>151620583
Is that what's happening to them? I was assuming the game's ai had them get scared and flee after i blew up their buddy. My mistake for thinking cig did something clever for once instead of it just being a bug.
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what do you think dererk will meme about in 2019 when CIG lays off a 4th of its workforce because they've released the game?
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Dreadnought Anon, where are you?
My framerate keeps dropping to 0 for a second, that's kinda annoying. How do I fix this shit?
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>>151620537
You can probably get electronic access arena style games to work well at 60 FPS. However the test universe won't run that well due to netcode. Has almost nothing to do with specs.

>>151620857
>Still has a general

Nope. Search KSP and you get three Pokemon Go generals.
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>>151620537
Most performance is server bound a the moment and graphics settings will not change anything on high end hardware. So I would expect 25 to 28 fps at best. If you can live with that there is some fun to be had.
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damn ive been gone for ages. sandi was in porn?
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>>151621619
ya
she also fugged derek smart behind chris' back ;o
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>>151621189
Welp, disabled Aero, now it works perfectly, gg no re.
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Was just thinking back to my Tera days. What do you guys think about having massive RNG spawned bosses to occasionally deal with? Something like a mini community event that may spawn (something such as) a buffed up pirate Idris that would could be/would need to be engaged by many people to destroyed.

Would such a thing even work in SC? Thanks to instancing it surely won't work in ED
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>>151620982
does it even matter?
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okay I got an Adder

how do I outfit it for soulless mining grind, I have 117k cred now
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>>151621989
damn i tried to look it up so i can see her subpar tits but all the links are broke.
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>>151622186
Larger battles, yes, NPCs spawned for no reason to be a "boss" battle, no. These kinds of things will not be able to work effectively because 1: why the fuck would pirates have an Idris, and 2, it wouldn't be logical to do this since not everyone is flying around in massive squadrons to run into some huge enemy. I prefer a more realistic approach, in which an org gets a rare party mission (requiring a larger-than-normal minimum amount of ships for the mission) so that some organization can take up the job and fight off some large amount of pirates, or whoever, with regular SC constraints.

>>151622365
It was tickle porn from more than a decade ago.
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>>151622529
>Spawned for no reason

Of course there could be a generic reason to add. Pirates want to take over Olisar, spawned a ship there. Defend the station, etc. And I pose the question of would this even work for a few reasons, although they are definitely not the same games:

>In Tera the game spawns a boss randomly, however players communicate along the global channels where it is and use various means of transportation to all get there and engage

Thanks to the various methods of travel that SC has/will have, along with Roberts' want to have a lot of players within a single instance/space, it just got me to thinking if something like this could potentially work. And hell, it could even potentially lead to some emergent(?) gameplay changes. Pirates win and take over the station.
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>>151623083
To be fair, as a temporary addition to the current alpha, it could be fun for everyone to jump to a single place and fight off tons of pirates and a capital, but honestly they're better off adding this to AC as its own mode since it would take away from the mini PU. And even still, if they were able to do this without much issue, they'd even be better off adding pirate swarm to the game.
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>>151611836
>The X52 has way too little of them.
I know the pain, I spent a few hours yesterday using the bloated software to set up a clutched mapping for as star citizen as as far as I can tell SC dose not let you use custom modifier keys.
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>>151623712
>Pirate swarm

I just use the Idris ship as one example. Pirate swarms, Vanduul Swarms at Olisar or various stations or cities, etc. I hope for dynamic random events like this. They help add excitement to the game(s) if implemented properly.
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>The drifting on the Gladius

why did they make this thing handle so poorly

i thought the whole idea was it's supposed to be a hyper agile lightweight

then again they also have the avenger being slow as balls when it's labeled as an interceptor so who the fuck knows
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>>151624016
Apparently it's significantly better in 2.5. I don't have a Gladius, otherwise I'd test it.
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>>151624016
One of the many changes in the flight model across the board fucked it. They haven't got round to fixing it again. Calm your tits.

Avenger is getting a speed buff again btw.
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>>151623984
In the final game CIG will create events like Vanduul invasions, system wars, among other shit to generate jobs for players to taker like destroying ships, finding stranded pilots, materials shipping, material mining, killing vanduul, etc.
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>>151624016
I heard it was better now
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>>151622220
Keep telling you sothis. Do a bunch of courier missions to get to the good stuff.....find a 10 or 18 combat steroid mission fron sothis to ceos and youve got a cool 5 mil
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>>151623761
Any way to make use of the double trigger for SC? I want the cannon and my laser on that ... or does it not support multiple bindings for the same function at all?
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The effects they've implemented are pretty goddamn nice. It's been a while since I've been enthralled by something as little as an explosion

https://youtu.be/W7nTpaAj4jY?t=15s
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>>151624838
I don't think Star Citizen will ever be the game people dream of it being, but if it continues at this pace and just expands some more like it's looking like it will, it should be pretty fucking great.
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>>151624457
He wasn't me, who asked earlier. But seriously is it worth travelling for hours?

Speaking of which I'm kinda close to Earth, anything worthwile there? Or nothing?
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>>151624815
Yeah I have that set up in SC. I have fire group 1 set as the first stage and fire group 2 set as the second inside the key bindings. When you are setting it up you just pull through the first stage quickly and it should figure out that you want the second. The other option is, and I have this set up for any button I want to have two functions, is to bind the fire groups to unused keys and them map those keys as macros for the triggers/buttons you want in the saitek software. The programing software is the most abysmal tool I have ever used but once you work out is logic it is serviceable.
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>>151625031
To make money in ED you're going to be doing shit for hours, quite literally. And there is absolutely nothing at Sol system. Maybe if you want to "sight see" our solar system in ED. Nothing more.
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>>151624815
SC Doesn't allow binding multiple keys to the same function, but you could use saitek's configuration tool to set up that up by binding keystrokes to the buttons.(it's also handy to change the hats from 4 to 8 way) I recall having the trigger on my old stick set to fire weapon group one for stage one and fire both weapon groups for stage two.
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>>151626134
Yeah nevermind I'm an idiot I didn't think about weapon groups. Used to just bind primary and secondary together to the trigger.

And yeah the saitek software is shite afaik. Then again I never bothered with it as most games manage to work out how the stick works by themselves.

>>151626143
I am well aware about the grind. Any good place for bounty hunting though? The average I get is just 20k or something.
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All around me are familiar faces, worn out places, worn out faces
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>The Adder looks and sounds like a space truck

Is this basically Euro Truck Simulator in SPESS

I-I'm okay with it
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>>151626486
>Any good place

Quite literally any system that has RES close to a station. Just like with resetting mission boards, if you're not getting good bounty targets to hunt, logging in and then out resets it to potentially get you better shit to kill.
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>>151624016
They fixed the Gladius' flight a lot in 2.5. Though the Sabre is still a straight up p2w upgrade to it and the current flight/gamemechanics still don't favor fast, lightly armed, agile ships very well.
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>>151626704
>Is this basically Euro Truck Simulator in Space

Sure, if the Truck simulator series had you go down an endless straight highway for an hour with nothing to see. Oh also if you didn't actually drive your truck until the last second when you had to stop at your destination. Then yes, it's exactly like Truck Sim.
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>>151626790

i can work around being outgunned, I can't work around being outgunned AND outmaneuvered

so if they gladius at least handles better than the sabre/hornet than it can at least function
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>>151627091
>>151626790
Isn't the Sabre supposed to be an outright better ship?
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>>151626720
I might try that again, last time I did enemies barely spawned in the RES. But fair enough.

>>151627202
It's supposed to be the successor from what I know. But if anything it's just a space Tomcat.
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Hey, for all you fags grinding rank in E:D, I got a breakthrough for you.

At 100% I got no missions, doing 17 Drac. Refreshed for 20 minutes. Decided "fuck it" and did more donation missions. As soon as I hit 5% into the next rank, the mission immediately popped into the mission board without refreshing. Curious, I cycled modes a few times, and there was a fed navy mission every single time. Tried it next time I hit 100%, same result, nothing until 5-6% into the rank, then 100% there. So if you're cycling with no luck, maybe this info will help.

Sorry if it's old info, but I never came across it.
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>>151627202

it's slower by about 20 m/s in regular flight and has less cruise speed

also has less missile racks since the Gladius can mount I think up to 12 if you get some aegis triple racks

if the handling changes are noticeable the gladius can have it's niche back as a quick and nimble shitkicker again
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On another note, let's say I want to try something other than hunting and buy a different ship for trading. Do I always have to go back to the system where I parked the Viper to get into it? Does it basically tie me to a couple of systems to own multiple ships?
>>
apparently this vid shows how the gladius handles in 2.5
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>>151627336
It should work. Sometimes the game just says fuck it and gives you nothing everywhere you go. If that happens, log out and take a break. It's what I used to do. Usually when logging back in hours later RNG would be in my favor again, seemingly.

>>151627579
>Slower
>Less missile racks

So it's more heavily armored and potentially has more lasers/ballistics I assume?
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>>151627741

whoops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTqFyYg46-Y

>>151627792

overall more health (armor is the same) and it has 4x S3 gun mounts
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>>151627091
It handles better than the hornet now, but it's still about even with the Sabre's maneuvering (the Sabre ALSO got an agility buff in 2.5 for some fucking reason), but the Sabre basically has twice the fire power which, in the current state of SC, is a metric fuck ton more useful than the 20m/s edge the Gladius has in combat speed.
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>>151628032
>agility buff in 2.5
What? I don't fly my Sabre often, but I'm quite certain it feels more sluggish in 2.5.
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What happened to it?
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>>151628241
Did the dev ever recover from that burnout he worked himself into.
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>>151627935
>That video

That video is why I prefer SC's flight to ED's overall.
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>>151628032

Based on my limited playtime with it, it honestly feels less agile than it did before, but it feels...easier to maneuver?

Hard to explain.
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>>151628518
He said he was working on it, but wasn't going to post updates anymore as he had some sort of mental breakdown and needed some time for himself supposedly
Then he went completely silent
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>>151628241
Fourth complete rewrite, this time to add modding.
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>>151627202
>Isn't the Sabre supposed to be an outright better ship?
The speed and agility really shouldn't be as close as it is, since one is a twin engine light fighter, and one is twin engine medium fighter with the same number of mav thrusters.

I think the real issue is that the Gladius is just weak as shit without spamming missiles It actually has less firepower than an Aurora LN and the Space BMWs .

Also 2.5 locks missile racks to the ship, so no more Gladius' flying around with 8 or more missiles.
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New thread where?

Not it!
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Are they going to change the landing again after this 2.5 patch for SC?

https://youtu.be/D1nq4mu1D6w

I feel like automated landing is a giant portion of flight just... Removed.
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>>151628239
>>151628581
I'm just going off what it says in the patch notes and what it says in here; https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17xAPQZlWbnec5wnDjjtbHg74KfsR9NRSPP0tUf3JgbA/edit#gid=1113415115
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Making new thread right now
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>>151629257
>Force into precision mode for no real reason

I'd rather have precision mode forced. Before I got my HOTAS, the number of times I would fly forward because I didn't have precision mode on while landing was many, and it resulted in me getting killed quite a lot.
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Let's go gently into that sweet night
Do not rage against the pillars of light

>>151630358
>>151630358
>>151630358
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Is X3 Terran Conflict any good?
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>>151514790
I rented a M50 just so I pretend its an A wing.
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>>151633108
You and every other M50 owner
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bring back space games

what's the point.
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>>151642615

One can only play so much Dwarf Fortress before wanting to look to the heavens.
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>>151631771
I played it for a couple 100 hours. As it stands it is a much better single player experience than E:D. DO NOT get near X-Unbirth though.
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