/scg/, /edg/: Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, General

Reposting from the old thread.

Looking for a comfy space game, not really interested in doing E:D again.

help

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First for comfy spess

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>CIG forgot about The Next Great Star Marine contest

1st for thread is complete sucess

>>151295579
It's so fucking great

Can't wait for SPOOKY derelics in spess citizen

>>151295961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trOB7WQ4et0

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>>151295945
Repost
>>151295208
Depends on what you want for comfy. I had tons of fun with Rebel Galaxy for a while, but it's really just a broadside simulator and less the "fly into sunset" kinda comfy.

Just to fly about and do fuck all E:D is probably still comfy.

This >>151295395 is also pretty good, but I wouldn't call it comfy. The Alien gets annoying after a while.

>>151295726
Nah some cool designs from a meh animation about some sprint racing. Name is in the filename I think.

Repostan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B3aMchQMUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kMt3hjeNcI

>>151296074
Thanks. I'll probably do more space trucking in E:D for the time being

>>151294226
If it were regular torpedoes, it can be difficult, but tiny soft armored ships will probably not be an issue if you bring fighters with you. They would be a prime target of the utmost importance when launched. I don't know how extensive CIG will make their NPC commands for things like controlled warfare, but these would be expected from a void.

But even still, taking down a void is a fucking achievement if I've ever seen one. It's their largest sub-capital ship. I doubt we could ever take down their destroyer (the next largest ship we know of) so the void will have to suffice. Other than a fighter compliment, if the model stays the same as the reveal, it only has about 4 turrets on top with weapons no larger than S3.

>>151295961
I kind of glad. It's a waste of their time for something so insignificant. I'd much rather another, more streamlined TNGS.

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>>151295961
Someone post hardsuits

>>151295958
redeemer is still more comfy on the inside

>>151295980
Star Marine and Star Marine contest are two seperate things, the contest is for fans to make mech suits.

Anyone else hype for Objects in Space?

>>151296486
>redeemer
>more comfy than beta

what are you smoking? Whatever it is, I need some.

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>>151296486
Paul please. Your coffee kitchen doesn't belong in a gunship.

>>151296132
Thanks, so happy to see my shipfu in the game.

What originally made me fall in love with spacesims was the different shaped ships on the front box of Privateer. The fact that you could make your own choice which of these totally different looking ships was your own and then go on spess adventures with it just blew my mind.

And then when we finally got a successor with SC, 90% of all ships are spaceplanes.

jesus, torpedoes are useless in ED
>fire torpedoes
>keep shooting at target
>target dead before torpedoes hit

>>151296676
But how else will I engage in high fidelity space cooking? The "Gunship" part is just to keep people away from attacking my oven, do you know how dificult it is for a souffle to rise in zero gravity? It get's all puffy then collapses when gravity is enabled.

>>151295961
for the best, I don't want any more community involvement in the design process. yes, we'd see better work than what CIG can do, and like TNGS we'd see it flushed down the toilet upon completion in favour of something shitty because there was a girl on the team.

>>151295958
beta needs the ability to casually sprawl around those couches. also, it's gonna need a little suit locker so you can sprawl around in comfort
>all the toilets and showers in tiny ships and they never even considered where people will change
I'd bet money that every ship that has a small shitter room will see it turned into a changing booth because we could actually use that

>>151296132
>5e
they've already iterated that many times?

>>151297645
>where people will change
All of these ships with showers, toilets and beds have more interior open space than most tents used for camping and people somehow manage to change in a tent. So, I wouldnt get too autistically caught up on that fact.

>>151294780

>100

From long time ago they said it's possible to do hundreds or more together, and they reaffirmed this in a recent PCgamers interview shortly after the magazine. While I don't expect that amount being possible with current tech, I think it's important to note. Of course it's all just talk until they blow us away with more than 150 ships on screen with stable FPS above 45 with players, NPCs, everything.

>>151297645
>changing rooms
>being relevant to space ship design

I know they added shit like little coffee mugs and all, but adding more useless shit is a waste of resources and time.

>>151296132
anyone tried racing it yet?

>>151298179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2_lE8ZnAHM&feature=youtu.be

Yep

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>>151296132
slick

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>>151295961
I hope they still do it, I need mechs in my spess

>>151298274
oh god I never even thought about the starting tunnel
they really need to get that horizontal fastmode locked down

I have to wonder because I don't remember, will the M50 be available at some point again?

>>151296132
That gun is underwhelming.

>2 years later and people are still assblasted the best ship won TNGS

anyway

what's the hot new meta ship now for shitting on people

>>151296719
watching that vid, you really get a feel for how tall the ship is just by the way the guy flies, it looks like a totally different experience, like being up in the Slave I. looks pretty neato, coming from someone who had no interest beyond shooting at it until now.

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>>151299296
Yeah, sure. Either at Gamescom next friday or the anniversary sale in mid-late November.

>tfw still waiting to land on atmospheric planets

>>151299472
Why did you rice it mang?

How much did these go for again?

>>151295730
stop choosing gay OP pics anon
but at least the nu mans bait is gone from the OP

>>151299324
>5 shots pirate
>underwelming

The connie can mount four of these.

When 2.5 drops on the normal servers will they reset monies and items again?

>>151299324
Its power isn't underwhelming. The sound and muzzle flash is. It just doesn't feel powerful.

>>151299663
We need a drawfag to make some erotic ED and SC pilots drinking at a bar with their ships visible outside the window


erotic because it's highly implied they're going to FUCK each other afterwards

>>151297839
yeah but what they actually need gameplay-wise is a place to swap gearsets as they have now, even if it's only a wall texture you click on that looks like a locker, as they have by the airlocks on olisar

>>151298048
this isn't useless shit, it's the one aesthetic 'fidelity' thing they could add that would actually be relevant to gameplay.

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>>151299878
That reminds me, what happened to shipfu anon?

>>151299878
[chuckling sounds in background intensifies]

>>151299878
Too bad, I can only draw ships but not people and my holidays just ended.

>>151300024
Carrick ara ara obviously

>>151300024
He isn't aware that /scg/ is back and currently has been hanging around /swcg/ in /co/

>>151299878
but will the ed pilot or the SC pilot be the girl?

>>151300163
>but will the ed pilot or the SC pilot be the girl?
how about both

>>151299663
>nebula art
>gay

found the fag

>>151299608
Hopefully they can get that shit working in the game by Feb.

>>151299983
It'd be relevant to RP niggers, not any career in the game. Beds will be useful for logging out and shit, and apparently NPCs will do stuff with drinks. There's no more need to add more fluff to the game when there are guns, ships, places, and other objects to be made that are more important than a fucking room dedicated to clicking a button for a different outfit.

>>151299635
Well I just googled and apparently it was $80, that might be worth the swap just to have it over the 325a.

Just bought a vive

If elite any good with it? Cant remember the last ship I had, it was the sexy bounty hunter one

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I don't know if this will ever be needed but in case it starts to come up more in 2.5 here is how to find Hex without out getting a wanted level.

>>151300402
Originally it was $80, but they raised it to 100 a while ago.

>>151300331
what stuff are you going to do with drinks when you've got a helmet on? it's good for more than RP because eventually you won't be able to pilot in anything heavier than medium armor, so anyone who wants to fly their ship will need either a way to change or never wear more than a basic level of protection.

>>151300539
Oh well that's $30 difference then.

That thing any good in fights/interception? I suppose the better question is, can I put two huge cannons on it and just boom-zoom everyone?

>>151300492
>mfw putting something on the far side of a moon actually makes it difficult to find
I always thought that was a cheesy explanation in any universe with readily available space travel, never having considered the actual distances involved.

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>>151300331
generic boring nebula shot #2935
yeah thats gay

>>151300542
That's why lockers exist dumbass. They hold wardrobe equipment that you put in there. you change it when you need it.

>wear regular EVA suit in case you need to eject
>go to locker after landing to put on heavy armor if you need to go outside

Is it that hard to understand? This does not need a dedicated room.

>>151300759
y r u so meen anon :(

>>151299802
Another question I have is, would a Vanguard Warden be any good for boom and zooming folks?

>>151300826
I specifically said it wouldn't need to be an actual room you silly fucker. but if they decided some of them could be it would be an actual use for/viable replacement of the existing bathrooms, without taking more than the effort of a USE button and a texture or two to swap if they wanted to. and you know they want to. I'm not cheerleading the idea here, just saying I bet it will happen because that's the kind of thing CIG does.

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>>151300974
Vanguard is not good for anything and gets shit on by the Constellation which costs more or less the same.

>>151301237
>Vanguard is not good for anything and gets shit on by the Constellation which costs more or less the same.
Wouldnt that change though when armor is implemented?

>>151300974
>boom and zoom

No. In the newest meta, Constellations are the heavy hitters you want. And for "zoom" you may want to wait on the Buccaneer. It's current concept is a lightish fighter with very good weapons.

>>151301412
>>151301237
Constellations are a way bigger target and will be no way near as sustainable as Vanguards or as suitable for pure combat, plus as the other anon said, armour isn't implemented yet.

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Welcome to /scg/ /edg/

We desperately need a drawfag, I can barely get FUN to this

>>151301390
Armor can't fix the fact that it's massively undergunned compared to even ships like the Freelancer and is lacking strong shields. I'm not sure how familiar you are with the new shield system, but a Hornet has (is supposed to have) 4 small shield slots which can mount 4 small or 1 medium shield. 1 medium is as strong as 5 small.
Anyway, the Vanguard has 2 banks of 3 small, effectively resulting in 6..let's call them 'shield points' vs 5 on the Hornet running a medium shield while being a significantly larger and smaller target.

>>151299429
Sabre with broadswords or panthers with rattler missiles, or the super hornet of course.

>>151301676
Fair enough on the size and sustainability, but it's very, very hard to look away from the 4 S5 guns, the portable fighter, endless missiles, 2 turrets, and cargo space to boot.

We need video of the new constellation dogfighting ASAP. I heard maneuverability is different across the board for most ships. of course, I wasn't invited to the party. Upload to YT pls

>>151301754
Surely /scg/ would be a bitchy girl and /edg/ would be a DILF?

>>151302081
Yeah you shouldn't get too carried away with working out metas in the PU, at the moment they are just trying to get everything flying to the bare minimum functionality. Balance comes way later, we've already see how brutal they can be with the Freelancer.

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E:D storage fucking when? Game is fucking unplayable when you get interdicted every single time you enter supercruise.

>>151302048
Yeah but the vanguard can utterly destroy a hornet if you aim well in 4 seconds.

I have a super hornet and a vanguard and I much prefer the vanguard truthfully and I dont expect that to change once armor is implemented.

Further, when comparing a long range fighter to christ roberts shipfu it seems sort of silly, seeing as the Constellation is just fucking retardedly strong given its size. I dont expect the Constellation ever getting a downgrade on anything given that fact too.

>>151302326
>we've already see how brutal they can be with the Freelancer
>space truck
>still has quad gimbaled S3 guns
>still has 10+ missiles
Brutal indeed.

>>151302081
>We need video of the new constellation dogfighting ASAP
I'll try and record something in a couple of minutes.

>>151302595
>storage
?

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>>151299878

>>151303104
like a storage chest that can be accessed from stations

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>>151303172
das good shit mane

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>>151303172

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>>151303172
oh my

>$90 hull B has 384 cargo units
>$140 freelancer max has 123 cargo units
>$150 constellation taurus has 243 cargo units
Why is this allowed?

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>>151303413

>>151303172
would be funnier to have the ships 69ing

>>151303172
10/10, came buckets

>>151303517
>why do different ships with different intended purposes yet some overlap differ?
Why bother posting?

>>151303517
The Hull Series carries their caro externally, which isn't exactly protected. It's basically the difference between a flat bed truck and a container truck. You'll want to carry high-value cargo via internally stored ships.

This is also an advantage the merchantman has.

>>151303517
was about to respond but >>151303728 took what I would have said. Reconsider life

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Uguu

>>151303413
I-is that a space tomcat?

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>>151303172

>>151303728
>>151303885

These are all cargo ships with the same intented purpose.

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>>151304135
Welcome to your space waifu, anon. She's called the Aegis Sabre.

what's the largest base on a planet in ED?

>>151304191
The hull series is meant to transport a large amount of goods in a manner that leaves it open to attack.

The other two ships you mentioned are meant to transport smaller amount of goods in a more secure manner.

Why are you comparing them?

>>151304191
first off the price of the ship is irrelevant since you will eventually be able to get them in game without RL money (and their core mechanics aren't in anyway) unless if you want to support with mo moneez

Secondly, the Hull series are purely dedicated to cargo hauling from point A to point B. The Andromeda and Freelancer can carry cargo as well, but not as much. A trade off, but they have much better ways of putting up a fight and defending their cargo if attacked. Hull series ships will need larger escorts than ships that have their cargo within the hull itself.

>>151304418
fuck me that thing's sexy

You guys sound like a bunch a NERDS

>>151304963
rude

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>>151304963

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>>151304418
Outside of the stupid cutout just before the inlets that's pretty sexy.

Where can I get one?

>>151300712
No. It's good in a fight in that it's hard to hit and you can run the fuck away in a pinch... But you probably won't be killing anyone with it either.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMChucmgsQY

fucking HNNNG


>>151305198

Either wait for November sale, or if you haven't yet already grab a starter package for spess citizen and then get one ingame.

>>151301237
They apparently nerfed the connie so that it doesn't handle like a fucking fighter anymore. So the vanguard might have a bit more use... Though the S5 looks fucking stupid hanging off the chin

>>151305373
That's why I was hoping to put big guns on it ... to fly it like a Focke Wulf, that is to say a stupidly fast fighter that has a bunch of heavy hitters on it.

But I guess it's running then.

>>151305571
Well I just saw the price and I figure I'll just wait. Still top design though.

>>151303212

Fuck it, I'd even take station specific storage. Have it be a service like outfitting or shipyard where you can store both modules and inventory. Perhaps gaining rep with local factions could unlock the storage/upgrade it?

Dads can't say it's gamey since you need to go to a specific station, but at least you'd have somewhere to put stuff.

>>151302595
Probably never. The list of shit they need to fix to make the game remotely fun or playable is just so huge that most of is never going to happen.

>>151305748
Why not even that is a thing is beyond me. Guaranteed all I've been doing in E:D is hunting bounties so storage has never been one of my issues but still.

>>151305748
Dads have literally, unironically said that storing commodities would somehow cheapen the experience of getting the materials because you can just stockpile for upgrades, and that the system we have now is somehow superior.

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>>151305682
Consider the Aegis Gladius if your budget is short, it's the older model of UEE fast fighter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBIFpEPl8kk

>>151306018
just wait until you start grinding RNGneers, you'll see why everyone is shitting their pants over the lack of module/commodity storage

you get interdicted every 2 seconds if you're carrying ANYTHING, and you have to carry a bunch of shit to do upgrades, it's fucking stupid

>>151305571
I like this Polaris Corvette so freaking much, my favorite SC design by far.

I really really love it.

Most of the designs in SC I don't like much or at all, but this one, this one makes me hard.
It looks exactly like what I imagine a space corvette should look like, it's so sleek but at the same time powerful and thick.
The sexy lines.

It's perfect.

So I have a Vanguard Warden, Redeemer, Retaliator, and a Super Hornet, what else should I get?

I was thinking of melting the SH in favor of the Polaris when it is released.

>>151306218
You do realize that it's just some fanmade mockup?

>>151306073
Dads will suck FD's dick no matter what they do. If they implement storage, dads will fall all over themselves to applaud FD for the decision.

>>151306141
>Gladius
The whole point is that the other one looks like an F-14, why would I want anything else.

>>151306179
I don't have Horizons so I doubt that'll happen anytime soon, then again I've not fired the game up in half a year.

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>>151306316
What?

Oh my god...

>>151295730

I don't know fuck all about Star Citizen, but thinking about taking the ride. Referral code? Is the game worth it in its current form?

>>151306484
>Referral code
STAR-MNYT-LXVW

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>>151306410
he's talking about this image. It's been adopted and reworked as the offical Polaris, you didn't hear it here

>>151306601
>It's been adopted and reworked as the offical Polaris, you didn't hear it here
Really, is that true?

>>151306410
RIP ANON

>>151306313
Melt retaliator and get Gladiator. Trust me, bruv, the Retaliator has a bleak future as a "heavy bomber". It can put up a good fight after the bombs are dropped. And honestly, you wouldn't see too many targets large enough to justify the retaliator's payload anyway.

>>151306601
I wish. This design isn't too bad, other than a severe lack of turrets.

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>>151306601
So is it gonna be in SC or not?

>>151306775
Are you really this gullible? jesus christ

>>151306808

I don't know anon, I never said that. Just compare these two pieces of artwork.

>>151306601
>>151305571

>>151306939
Do you believe me now, anon? If you've been in the old /scg/ for even a little while you sould reconise this tripcode.

>>151306784
>Melt retaliator and get Gladiator. Trust me, bruv, the Retaliator has a bleak future as a "heavy bomber". It can put up a good fight after the bombs are dropped. And honestly, you wouldn't see too many targets large enough to justify the retaliator's payload anyway.
I honestly havent even flown it yet, not enough friends online at any given time to fill it up.

I was leaning more towards a larger craft as I actually like the Vanguard and I feel that it would be fine to use alone or with one other person for extended periods of time. I would be willing to melt the Retaliator and the SH for something else that is larger though.

>>151306939
>Are you really this gullible?
>Asking if something is true makes you gullible
No anon, believing without question makes you gullible, being incredulous of a claim is actually the opposite of being gullible.

>>151303517
Hull B is weak as fuck and can't land on planets. The max can defend itself and fit in the smallest jump points. The Taurus is strong and holds a lot but is a size category larger than the Max.

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>>151306313

Hey /scg/ how much have you spent on the game? What ships do you own?

Do you feel you've spent too much?

pic related is me
Definitely spent too much

>>151306601
What is the ball thing on the nose?

>>151307465
I dont look at that screen and I certainly dont show it to my wife.

>>151307465
I started with the $45 pledge pack and an Aurora. Upgraded it to an Avenger, then later to a Hornet. Yes, I've spent too much money.

>>151307565
Radar?

>>151307465
$70 on a 325a LTI

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>>151307465

How is that too much?

>>151307465
$140. Got a Freelancer DUR and nothing else. I don't think I spent too much but I (probably) won't be spending any more

>>151307803
>$1,605.00 USD

Also guess my ships.

>>151307465
Kind of up in the air since Im waiting for the tana to get a price increase so I can use my 315p to Tana tokens to save some money on larger ships. But will probably end up with a Taurus and a hornet at the end.

>>151307995
Too many and too expensive ones.

>>151306601
I want this. Holy shit I want this. That is a sexy fucking ship.

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>>151307465
Plus some standalones and the Caterpillar/Dragonfly pack. I have the Vanguard->BMM upgrade in my inventory and the Retaliator will become a Starfarer next sale.

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>game drops me THROUGH station
>instantly bumped by fuckhuge rotating cargo rack or whatever
>have to wrestle fully laden tradeconda through two rows of habitat centrifuges and multiple rotating solar panels
>with D rateed thrusters

most fun I've had with the game in weeks desu

>>151307995
>one connie
>one or more hornets
>one freelancer
>one reclaimer
>one orion or hull d
>one vanguard
>some other smaller shit

>>151307995
constellation, Reclaimer, Orion, maybe a merchantman?

>>151307260
Well, the BMM seems like a good idea. Corvette would probably require a lot more people and be war focused. If the BMM becomes what it was described to be for so long, it should tanky with large frontal weapons.

>>151308210
>>151306775
accept it now that it will never happen. Don't get hung up on impossibilities.

>>151308280
WHY

>>151308280
>Armada pack

Christ. Why do you people spend so much goddamn money on a video game? I only have a Titan because I got SQ42+SC for either 30 or 45 bucks.

>>151307995
>>151308435
This anon was closest

I own five Merchantmen and a original concept Cutlass package.

>>151308280
jesus fucking christ

>>151308610
>five Merchantmen
jesus christ

>>151308610
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>151308610
>5 happymerchants

literally pic related.

>>151308610
>Five

For what purpose

>>151308610
>I own five Merchantmen
Fuck dude.

>>151308481
>BMM or Polaris
That is pretty much where I am right now, either I get the BMM which would be a fine all around ship to fuck around with friends or I get the Polaris which is about the same size but more combat oriented. I need to get more decisive I guess.

>>151306557

Used your code if I decide to take the plunge.

Generally speaking, is it viable to expect to not have to spend hundreds of buckeroos on spaceshits? Can you earn shit in game or what?

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>>151307465
As I was thinking about this post I went back to check, and apparently had a mental block of how much I spent. I think I'm addicted to the feeling of spending money. Someone should help me.

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>>151308791
forgot image goddamnit

>>151308892
>Generally speaking, is it viable to expect to not have to spend hundreds of buckeroos on spaceshits? Can you earn shit in game or what?
Yeah, right now you can rent stuff and when full launch happens you can get it in game by working for it as well.

>>151308792
>>151308791
>>151308739


I'm going to melt them for as many Polaris Corvettes as I can or will keep them if the Polaris is overpriced or shit.

I'm waiting for the Terra vs Earth civil war in +5 years. Yes, I'm literally doomsday prepping in a video game.

>>151308998
Eh, my wife found two of my invoices last night for a rifle and its scope. Lets just say that what you have spent on this game isnt that bad comparatively.

Hopefully she never finds more invoices of anything else.

>>151309219
At least you can use a rifle and scope for productive things. The fuck am I gonna do with $5000 USD in virtual starships?

>>151309049

Thanks for the info.

It's hard to know. I'm so tired of games being full of broken promises. Star Citizen, though glacial in it's movements, does seem to be moving forward.

>>151309367
I've put $500 into starcitizen and made $2300 on the grey market reselling concepts

>>151308826
you can probably buy one off of this faggot >>151308610

>>151309076
>basing extreme monetary decisions on a in-development game for content that is 6+ years away with no indication it will be realized to the point of description from2 years ago

Autism is an understatement.

>>151309367
>At least you can use a rifle and scope for productive things.
Not really, its a comp gun, its too heavy to carry around for a long time.

>The fuck am I gonna do with $5000 USD in virtual starships?
What am I going to do with a $7000 dollar rifle?

It is all about how you value your time and what you like to do in your spare time, your priorities are different than mine but what you have spent your money on is no different than what I have spent my money on.

>>151309420
>I'm so tired of games being full of broken promises
Dont get hopeful here then. It does look very promising and as the years have gone by it has gotten better and better but hope is the worst thing to have and this is true in all situations.

>>151309629
Mind sharing a pic of it?

>>151309606
That's actually about only 5-7% of my expendable yearly income, which in total makes up less than 10% of my total income. I can afford it.

I've just got to thank all the people who believed my lies and bought no man sky for getting me this much money.

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>>151309971
Here is a picture of my $3,500 GAP-10 and a $3,800 rifle scope. No pictures of the other rifle as I have yet to build it, I have the action, barrel, bolt, bottom metal, and trigger. I am waiting for the stock to come in then I will chamber and barrel it.

>>151307465

I just bought the starter package for the Mustang Alpha. I'm probably not going to buy anything more until I'm sure the game is going to be completed, and even then I'll probably just get the Avenger. Buying ships seems like paying to skip gameplay.

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Reposting from last thread because of truth

Just what is there to talk about in regards to E:D other than "how outfit ship" or posts about our sadness of getting jewed and pissed off about Dads and our anger with how the game failed?

>dads did this
>VISION
>anaconda or vette-kun

at least SC has a weekly video to discuss for a few minutes with hopes and dreams and maybe a patch every year or so that adds to their bugged alpha, but we really have nothing left for E:D. Not even hope at this point.

>mfw I remember the days of flooding /scg/ with shitposts about us having a RELEASED game earlier than they ever will
>mfw their thread went to eternal shitposting hell
>mfw our game ended up being utter trash and "releasing" was it's only """"""merit"""""
>mfw SC is probably going to win in the end
>mfw now I'm relegated to post in what is essentially an SC thread with a few remorseful E:D leftovers clinging on

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>>151310219

>magpul PRS

MY NIGGER

Also we're getting too /k/ in here so let's discuss how much we need that PRS in spess

>>151310219
>buys expensive rifles but is still stuck on a single screen

Anon, why...

>>151310458

It wouldn't be as comfy without our E:D friends.

Also without the occasional VISION shitpost this thread would die quicker. You guys should stick around.

>>151310219
>scope costs more than the rifle
Woah

>>151310484
It is a nice rifle, it goes pew pew well.

What I really want in SC is a large caliber anti material ballistic rifle to space people in fighters when they land on space stations. Of course dealing with thrust generated by firing such a weapon would need some sort of system to deal with it.

>>151310706
I am fine with one Dell Ultrasharp as my monitor. I dont really play games right now much anyway, I will fire up SC and play it like once or twice a week to try to stay decent at flying but aside from that I dont really game much right now. I figure whenever SC actually launches I will upgrade my computer and just play this game all VR like.

>>151310910
Welcome to long range shooting.

>>151310958
They're working on a railgun that you heft over your shoulder to shoot. That should be fun.

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>>151311042
>>151310958

Sneak peak of the railgun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg67FPHOhus

>>151311042
Well I couldnt have asked for more then.

>>151311173
If this thing can damage ships, I'll be fucking pissed.

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>>151310458
But what makes Elite so compelling isn’t so much about the game as the experience. It’s the tinkering with and the taking out of a performance car for a Sunday drive, not to rack up more miles, nor to break any speed limits, but to just feel the growl of the engine and the wind comb through what’s left of your hair. To remember those carefree days arched over a BBC Micro or blinking angrily into a Lenslok and to forget for a short while that you have to make 357 people redundant in the morning. Elite is a hermetically-sealed escape capsule and it’s the best there is. Hell, you could fire the game up and just sit there on a launch pad and the sounds are enough to carry you away, so strong is your ship’s presence and so absorbing are the station surroundings.

Taking off, tearing through the station entrance a little too fast and just missing a Python, angling for the next jump, scooping fuel from a blazing sun, spinning the camera around your ship to catch its best profile, starting a fight just for the hell of it, seeing smok rise from the command console, hearing the screen crack and precious oxygen escaping into space and landing back at base with seconds to spare – these are the moments that make Elite essential. Trading, missions, mining – not so much. But it’s ok, we’re not going anywhere.

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How do i grind Exploration ranks "fast"?
Is there some external tool?
Right now i'm searching as many neutron stars - white dwarves as i can and bookmark them, for later visit them one by one

I feel like fucking kill myself

>>151311428
>If this thing can damage ships, I'll be fucking pissed.
Why? Wouldnt that be the point of a railgun, to damage armored targets with small high velocity projectiles?

>>151311428

Why would this make you pissed?

>>151311613
>>151311821

>size 1 railguns, or just guns in general are large in reality
>have the energy of multiple ship powerplants at their disposal
>does jack shit to ships

>shoulder mounted gun less than half the size of the S1 railgun
>does not have large powersource
>can somehow damage ships

it wouldn't make sense at all.

>>151312048
>ship based guns are large and need more energy to push a larger projectile fast enough to damage a spacecraft
>smaller projectiles need the same amount of energy from its power plant to push a smaller mass that same speed
That isnt how physics works.

>>151302912
based anon. Will wait for video.

>>151311448
just post sauce on this slut so I can see her suck dick in a desperate bid to keep her stupid club together and while I fap I'll pretend the club is /edg/

>>151312234
>its powerplant
what powerplant? This conversation is going to go all over places and reach nowhere in the end. I just think some hand held railgun compared to a ship gun shouldn't be able to damage a ship in any way that isn't just make the shields light up. It's terrible for balance.

>>151312646
You're not supposed to respond to the shitpost anon.

>>151312652
>what powerplant?
Let me put it this way, it will always require more energy to move a larger mass. If the larger mass needs to go fast enough to damage a ship in this game it will take more energy to achieve the speed to do so compared to a smaller sized mass. Both masses now can damage a ship, however the amount of damage will obviously be tied to the mass itself. In this case the larger mass will do more damage however the smaller mass can still be damaging if it hits the right portion of the craft, say a pilots forehead.

This wouldnt be bad for balance as it would require either an amazing amount of luck to hit something important or skill which not every player will have.

So really, what is the problem hear aside from your kneejerk reaction to
>muh infantry can damage my precious Super Hornet!

>>151312652

>>151312652

I imagine it would only be an actual threat against ships who decide to sit and hover to try and shoot at exposed dudes on the ground

basically like trying to decimator an ESF in planetside 2, it just punishes bad behavior and nothing else

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I have not been updating myself on SC for quite some while (September last year).

Does it have any kind of progress system yet? Ingame Ship stores? Ship equipment stores?

How's 2.5?

Also, whats the best pvp arena ship so far? Is it still missile meta?
I've heard good shit about Gladiator.

>>151311485
fastest way is the neutron star grind

just google it, there's a couple videos out there about where to go for it

exploration elite is honestly the most hellish thing in the game, seriously ask yourself whether or not you want to put yourself through that

>>151313076
>pilots forehead

aside from ships having very strong "Diamond/metal laminate" magic glass to protect people from getting one shotted out of cockpits like the 0.8 days. The idea itself is terrible. Shields reduce Ballistics damage, and the relatively massive S1 guns with their massive amount of energy from the powerplants that power entire ships should not be equally powerful as some shoulder mounted railgun relying on some battery.

I just can't see something like that being able to pose any kind of threat to a fighter craft, given the amount of damage fighters can take, the shields, etc. It doesn't sit right with me. I'm a Gladius pilot btw.

>>151313736
>progress system
sort of
>ingame ship stores
we can rent?
>ship equipment stores
yes, ship guns, personnel guns, armor, clothes.
>2.5
in PTU. New pirate station, Reliant flight ready, Argo flight ready, other small stuff.
>PvP
Sabre is good, SH is still king since it essentially turns into a flying cockpit rocket, and Gladiator is a good ship.

Come back next year or the year after. They've been saying it all last thread - it makes the wait easier.

>>151313736
you can earn money and buy stuff for your mans, (guns, clothes, armor) and stuff for your ship (guns, powerplants I think?) but you can't buy ships with in game money yet

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>>151314269
I've done some math and it may seem to be a bit less bad than what it seem
Every planet you find with the ADV give 500 credits, and you need 160 millions of creds to get to Elite rank
It means scanning 320000 planets, and it shouldn't me hard since you easily come by systems with 10 to 40 objects
It's still bad, but scanning water worlds and earth likes (haven't found one of those yet) gives an hand too
I still want to kill myself

So I started up SC after a long time and I have no weapons for my ship. I click the little dots and the only thing I can change on my ship is the power plant. AC and Universe. The fuck is going on?

>>151313736
missiles are fucking GARBAGE now.

I'm salty as fuck over missiles. They rarely ever hit their target

I just want them to finally implement dumbfire rocket pods to replace missile slots like they promised a long time ago. S2 rocket pods would be incredible for dogfighting. I would be so much happier.

>>151314835
>the relatively massive S1 guns with their massive amount of energy from the powerplants that power entire ships should not be equally powerful as some shoulder mounted railgun relying on some battery.
You are still forgetting the difference in size of the rounds fired versus the amount of energy needed to accelerate them to the same speed.

>>151315012
save yourself and uninstall

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>>151315712
I'll let you know when i give up

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>>151316280

"Gamer Commits Suicide Due to Catastrophic Loss of Vision"

>>151315217
I even tried that site that lets you upload your xml file to equip it that way and the fucking website can't even load my ship

ATV tomorrow, right? What studio is it this time?

>>151317491

Texas I believe.

>>151317706
>austin

they're head of the shopping and persistence shit right

I feel like this will be an underwhelming update when it comes to playable content.

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>>151315012
>earth likes
sure, if it weren't so fucking rare
pic semi related, those two bookmarks are the ones i've discovered.
there was another in the middle but a dad claimed it.


jesus fuck finally managed to get myself closer to the center
should be a straightforward journey from here

>>151318259
At least we'll get Tony Z talking about the vision (tm) for the future of the PU.

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>>151318447
Christ sake

>>151317481
The 2.4 patch broke that site

>>151318823
it's the fate that i chose for myself for believing that FDev had something hidden behind the fucking grind that was that journey to the far side of the galaxy

>>151318704
It's always a pleasure to hear Tony speak at length

>>151314269
Is there one that gives a cut off mark for rank 5ing farseer?

>>151318259
Yeah, they are a bunch of fat, bearded middle aged men who have earned a salary drinking beer and doing lightning passes on ArcCorp the last few years. They are the definition of deadweight.

>>151319367
you're going toe wrong way. You need to head to the FAR left side of the galaxy in that picture, directly away from the core. Thats' where the propes originated

>>151318704
>>151319541
Tony Zurovec should do the gamescome presentation. He really is the best talker than Mr. Chris "uhh, ahh, yes, no- uhh" Roberts.

>>151319654
kek pretty much

>>151319816
maybe someday
I just wanna deliver this data asap without getting burned again on a binary

I've been away from the bubble for long. Should I take this shit to Farseer? or dump it to UC on the nearest station?

>>151320526
Farseer.

>>151320937
then i'll need a cargo hold, a meta alloy and pray i won't get interdicted more than 20 times by the same npc on the way back

>>151320526
Dump it into the UC at farseer. That way you can rank up with it while getting all the money.

>>151319654
To be fair they've been working on Nyx and other PU shit we haven't seen yet.

>>151321334

Reminder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2YMlnn4Ngk

Nyx is coming in 2.7 temporally added in the Stanton system until it's home system is ready

>>151321334
yeah we haven't seen any of the Levski landing zone since concept, I bet it's gonna feature heavily in the gamescom show, since supposedly it's long done and they're just waiting for the planet tech to catch up.

>>151321334
I hope you're right anon

>>151321837
If it's been "finished" all this time, they should have another landing zone almost done. Arccorp is done, Nyx is "done" (won't believe it till I see it), and that was a long time ago. It's been just lighting and VFX updates from them since then so they should have a trump card up their sleeve or something. I remember Hurston having some kind of sneak peek? Can't remember it well.

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>>151322185
>>151321768

Looks pretty much don to me anon.

Also Hurston has been shown off about six months ago in this image.

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>>151322432
that wasn't just an image, as I recall it was an actual in engine vid of it, and it was looking pretty spiffy. I think they have a whole lot up their sleeve, but they'll hold on to em unless they get desperate for content. they love dropping way more than peoiple expect after all, and what would be more unexpected that multiple completely unseen before new locations in the eventual Stanton system expansion?

pic related, where they were not long before that was teased, and the stage we're currently seeing of Microtech, the next to last planet they need for Stanton.


I wonder why they put Crusader in first when they're leaving it's planetside build for last.

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Any noteworthy Derekposting today?

>>151323316
you seem to care enough to post caps, go tell us.

>>151323316
Take it to shitpost containment central
>>>/r/dereksmart

We don't care for derekposting here.

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>>151323316
Apart from him still trying to defame the CS manager again. I skimmed him sperging out about 2.5, but didn't read it.

>>151323316
Pointless angered. Why do you care so much about what he has to say anymore? It's boring now. It's been boring for a while now honestly.

What is the point of the torpedo pylon
Its so useless

I'm just glad they finally got rid of the headbob.

This will be the only time I mention this but Angels Fall First got a new update, the net code was completely rewritten.

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>"remove NMS from op, they have an active general now"
>removed NMS from OP
>decide to check their thread to see if it was a good choice
>4 hours old, 400 posts, 90 posters
>they must be doing really well
>...I thought, until I read the thread

>literally from top to bottom is anger and turmoil the likes of which have never been seen before with walls of text and asspained NMS fans trying to tell people to stop shitting on their game throughout the whole thread

Audibly laughed. The salt is zesty. Good choice, /scg/edg/

>>151326000
Why only? Is it good?

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>>151326158
>tfw have ED,SC and NMS
>tfw raking in the salt from everyone

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>>151326158
Yeah, in there too, don't even plan on pirating the mess at this point, but it's a good thread to laugh at.

>>151326393
I just thought I would mention once it since I know a few people here probably have bought it. It is good however the player count is very low which is mitigated by players commanding their own squad of bots.

The space combat is 3rd person and very arcade but it is fun.

>>151326673
You can talk about any dead space Sims in here as much as you want, bro. That's the whole point of this general.

>>151326158
wtf. I just took a good look at the picture I posted and it is strangely high quality for a reaction image.

>>151325494
Fucking this. Head bob was terrible and useless. "m-muh immershhiiioooonn"

They made me hate that fucking word now.

Hey /edg/ guys, need your help. Fastest way to rank up Fed at the moment? I need that corvette.

>>151327559
I already told you
uninstall to not suicide

>>151327818
Not whoever it was you told that to, and I'm more than autistic enough to be fine doing whatever it is.

So is Star Citizen worth picking up now for $45?

>>151328395
Get the 45 dollar package and sit on it for the next few years. It's all you need for the PU and S42. Right now it's in an alpha stage, which comes with bugs, testing, etc.

>>151328395
Just had a new pirate base added. Still FPS issues. But if you do STAR-PP5Y-LLJW

>>151328395
Yes.

>>151328395
Yeah, sure. If nothing else you get SQ42 which'll definitely be worth the price, especially if you loved Wing Commander.

>>151328557
>>151328867
Not him, but i have a similar question
I bought a package that originally had Squadron 42 and they later rescinded it and took away my rights to it.
I currently have an Avenger, what would be the cheapest way to get S42, buy a whole new aurora?

>>151329689
I think if you already have a ship you should be able to get a game package without buying a ship?

>>151329689
>They later rescinded it

What? Are you sure?

>>151329856
Positive, and I know it sounds crazy.
It was the AMD Never Settle Space Edition. It originally had squad42 but if you didnt redeem it fast enough, later people had it taken away.

http://gameranx.com/features/id/67537/article/the-star-citizen-stretch-goals/

reminder that we have a long way to go.

>>151329689
I think so.

>>151330142
I'm guessing you didn't redeem it fast enough?

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>>151330215
I wonder who's behind that article

>>151330583
It doesn't really matter who. It's true regardless, and I think it's good to keep ourselves informed of the undertaking this game is. It keeps us down to earth and realistic about what to expect.

>>151330338
I guess I wasnt in the cutoff, but it was at the point where I had it, and they removed it from my account, they actually removed it. Its wack, and im surprised more people didnt complain.
Anyway, so I gotta pay $45?

>>151331759
sadly, yes :/

I was never aware of this being an issue. Although, I think almost everybody wouldn't have sat on it for months.

>>151331759
I'd ask support first. Maybe something went wrong with your account.

>>151331759
Try to contact their CS to see what can be done. If not, then yeah, 45 for the campaign. You still have access to the PU, right?

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Packages/Squadron-42-Standalone-Pledge

>>151332053
>Still have access to the PU?
Honestly I havent turned on the game since they added it. Imma file a support ticket and see what comes about

>>151307465
$50
$45 for starter aurora package $5 to upgrade to lx for the leather seats
:3

>>151328867
>>151328867
the $45 package doesn't have sq42 anymore, the $60 one does

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>>151330853
Nick Monroe seems to be rather salty.
I agree that we should definitely be aware of the scale of the project. However, I don't think we've reached a point at which it's somehow required to start counting features to prove some sort of point.

I'm finding NMS enjoyable as a casual exploration game, but all it's really doing is fueling my want for a more complex singleplayer space experience. Did X Rebirth end up any good after 3 years of patches and expansions?

>>151330853
>and I think it's good to keep ourselves informed of the undertaking this game is. It keeps us down to earth and realistic about what to expect

The stretch goals thing is a meme. Most of them were slated for post launch and therefore can not be called feature creep.

>That’s what the 10 for the Chairman show basically turned into.

This guy's a fucking retard if he thinks every autistic thing Chris has talked about on 10FTC is a promised feature. Who the fuck is this guy?

>>151334564
kek what a shitfaggot, almost as bad as Derek

>>151334859
Did you mean X: Stillbirth?

>>151334564
Well fuck. I didn't know the guy was an anti-shill.

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I can't play NMS, my space autism won't let me fly around in ships that look like that.

>find a cool fucking huge dragon ship

Jesus fuck console tards have no taste

>>151334859
>Did X Rebirth end up any good after 3 years of patches and expansions

Purely anecdotal but I understand it's okay now if not very good.

>>151307324
That's wrong.

A and B were sold saying they can do planets.

They invalidate all other cargo transports

>>151335542
>a space RV with TIE fighter wings

>>151335997
Eh, we'll just wait for X4
If they keep it like X3 and add multiplayer or even just coop, it'll easily beat out all the other space sims right now

>>151337337
Belongs in Spaceballs

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>>151337593
not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing

Right, tried to do a video of the Constellation. Didn't really work out since PTU runs terrible and I was getting sub 14fps. Anyway, it definitely maneuvers worse than before. The quad S5 are powerful enough to 2-shot NPCs. I'm relatively sure that they'll absolutely destroy Freelancer-sized and above ships, but lining up shots against fighters should be somewhat problematic.

>>151296948

With a speed of 150m/s and a horrible turning radius literally every ship in the game can outmaneuver and outrun them.

>>151338398
instead of pursuing targets, why not go in reverse while they chase you?

Also pls make attempt at video again :( I really wanna seee

Argo is CUTE!
https://youtu.be/2UL1bq6d7d4#t=16

>>151327559
Please.

>>151340807
the flashing lights on the ground look a little bright

>>151327559
>>151340946
I'm getting a lot just warping back at forth between Sothis and Ceos, but that's also early in the career.

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>>151338398
these should have been in the condensed notes

>>151342165
That was only in the first 2.5 release. They fixed it in a or b.

>>151338740
I tried to record your video and ended up in an instance that wasn't hot garbage, but didn't meet a single player. Blew up another NPC, watched a NPC Cutlass explode on its own without me ever touching it and took a trip to Grimhex before the server disconneced me. I can upload it anyway if you want.

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>>151340807
Argo can potentially be a mini troop dropship.

>>151336904
Unless you don't feel like having a fucking hornet babysitting you constantly.

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>>151343164
>Watched a... Cutlass explode on its own
That's the Cutlass experience for you.

>>151343346
fucking kek. This image always gets me for some reason. old /scg/ dank memes were slightly enjoyable.

>>151343218
It could. Though, there will be better ships for the job. You could clown car a Vanguard protected by other fighters. That's better than needed a carrier ship for the Argo, since it's a snub ship with no Qdrive or Jump drive.

>>151340807
The clown car variant is cooler.

God damn it, I just wanted to reopen the game and make a video of that, but they dropped another 11gb update.

If your cargo hold is full, how do you actually exit out of your Reliant?

>>151345016
You can't completely fill it, so that space between the mag plates is always clear

>>151345972
What if I fill it with bodies?

>>151334564
Fun fact. That is one of Dodger's most obsessed stalkers now working for Escapist and Gameranx

>>151343218
As someone who memes a healer in most MMOs, the idea of ferrying wounded soldiers around makes my dick hard.

>>151348535
>Pick up wounded soldiers
>Steal their organs
>Sell on black market

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>>151348375
Somehow this doesn't surprise me.

>>151348535
The third Argo variant that isn't in the game yet is search&rescue with like medical supplies etc. onboard.

>>151348707
>>151348375
lmao

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>>151348707
variants are for pussies
i'ma be an ambulance with default

>>151348870
cutlass red :)

Also, expect to be shot and killed many times.

>>151334564
>Star Trek Online
>An alternative to Star Citizen

This alone just shows how full of shit he is.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy STO, and still play it but it's so far from even elite dangerous let alone star citizen it's not even funny.

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>>151348870
Godspeed, anon.
But tbf, default Argo doesn't have anything attached. The containers are modular. Good luck with that.


>>151349000
Did it ever get any significant updates? I sunk like 1000 hours into it years ago and stopped shortly after they introduced the Romulan ships.

>>151348707
>>151348375
Oh wow
https://kiwifar.ms/threads/nick-monroe-pressfarttocontinue.22108/

>>151349208
The Romulan story is actually pretty fun. It's like a proper Star Trek RPG for the most part.
The Klingon story is great, though I don't know when exactly that was introduced so I don't know if you've played it.

They have a new agents of yesterday thing going on for the 50th anniversary. You create a TOS character and after an all too short albeit amazingly campy and fanservicey TOS story you become a temporal agent and get thrown into the main game where you get a fairly sizeable headstart in gear and can get even more bonuses for playing.

I can't comment on the end game because I really just play it to get my star trek fix because it seems like since bridge commander everyone has an aversion to releasing a decent trek game.

>>151349735
>>151349208
The end game is korean-tier grindfest.

Capped dailies so you have to log on and do hours of "quests" for 30 consecutive days.

Some of the space "dungeons" were really cool. They were short and sweet fights but you still have to do them over and over.

>>151349735
>>151350197
I see, thanks. Back then I played up to max level (50?) and ran a Temporal Destroyer on my science character. Shit was fun, but getting constantly outmemed by Aux2Bat cruisers got rather lame after a while. Also grinding dailies/reputation/fleet gear was horrible. I hear it's up to Mk XVI equipment now.

>>151350603
I ran broadside photon beams in my Reliant clone. Hitting Fire At Will with 9 photon beam bays never got old.

/edg/ fag here - do we know if players will be able to construct or at least own/control assets like space stations and planetary bases in SC?

>>151352901
back when I read about the game in 2012 I had the impression that groups would be able to control space stations
and I also imagined there would be administrative powers over colonies but maybe that was a dream
no construction as far as I know

>>151352901

Sandro made a forum post saying that he is interested in players being able to own and control stations and sections of space. We'll see how it'll go but from what I have seen a majority of people on the forums are against players having any sort of agency because muh grieffons

>>151352901
I think they're planning for player owned stations. There was also talk about player owned factories on planets, which they could use to produce various goods and either sell them off there or export. It was in one of the oldest videos about the economy.

>>151352969
>tfw Freelancer mods have spess station construction online

>>151352901

in SC? there's space stations players will be able to fight over for control, maybe for bragging rights or some other goal.

there will be a few persistent carrier ships, 1 or 2km long, that players will need to band together to fix, and control.

i don't think construction is planned, but in the monthly report there was talk about a service beacon. i guess you activate it and you broadcast a message much like a distress beacon, but players can go there expecting* to do business like trading

*probably will be used by pirate players to ambush more often than anything

>>151352901
They talked about owning unique assets like Bengal carriers years ago. You won't be able to construct them though, only repair the derelict ones.

Question for /scg/, is there anything that I should try and upgrade my Aurora MR package to, or would I just be better off buying another ship?

If it matters, I'm looking for something more combat-oriented for serving as an armed escort.

>>151352969
>>151353158
>>151353394
>>151353420
Good enough for me. I don't need construction, as long as the players are able to have an actual impact on the game world in one way or another. Sounds like SC is planned to be pretty much everything I was hoping for in ED.

>>151353121
got a linkie by chance?

>>151353425
Just it earn it in-game.

It'll be more fun that way.

>>151353425
Get the Aurora LN. It's a significant upgrade. If you want a combat ship you can upgrade to the Mustang Delta when it's on sale again. The Avenger and Gladius aren't that good, 300 series is trash until it gets reworked. If you really want to shell out get a Hornet, Super Hornet or Sabre.

>>151353425
Neither unless you really, really want to support the developers. Everything can be earned in the game anyways.

>>151353450
Found the economy video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0qXEAqYIH8
Keep in mind though that there are several times more NPCs than players. So having a fully player controlled economy like in eve is (luckily?) not possible.

>>151353858
is the video any different from the post? Always skipped the videos, but the post was dank fuckin' shit and originally got me interested.
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/13128-The-Star-Citizen-Economy

>>151353858
That's actually not the video I had in mind. But I swear that I remember CR saying years ago that players could own factories.

>>151353972
It's in that post actually, thanks anon. The post goes into more detail, video is pretty basic.

>>151353450

No link, sorry, and I can't seem to find it. I would take it with a grain of salt because Sandro is the type of person that would say anything sounds cool but then never do anything about implementing it because he has ten thousand other "cool ideas" to implement in a half baked manner because he can't focus on one thing.

>>151353629
Well, I specified upgrading to imply that I was looking for <$100, so I'll go with the LN.
I was just looking at that actually, but I wasn't sure if it was really worth the little bit extra, though. Thanks.

>>151353616
>>151353704
And I'm aware that ships can be earned and in-game, though right now I'd just like something more to fuck around with in the babby-PU.

>>151354174
Sandro really should be fired. That fucking autist ruined ED. How did he think RNG was a good idea for Engineers? How did he think that Powerplay was fine? How is anyone that retarded?

>>151318447

That's some tough luck, man. I ran through the neutron fields just behind the core and back, and found at least a couple dozen ELWs. They're plentiful enough that I don't even bookmark them anymore.

Most of them were in the neutron systems themselves.

Not around a companion star either. They orbit the NS directly, often with no other stars in the system.

Plenty of terraformables too.

Neutrons in ED have a habitable zone over 2,000ls wide around 3-5K for some dumbfuck reason.

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>>151353858
>>151353972
based info, anons, thanks for the help

>>151354836
that's beautiful anon

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>>151354380
ONE JOB

I'm not that interested on ELWs anyway, i'm only scanning between systems while i make it back to the bubble.
How accurate is this anyway?

>>151355353

Not very.

Scan values have gone up, as has the amount of data you need to hit exploration elite.

Neutrons and black holes are worth 40-50K now for instance.

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Hey guys why does the flight computer mention the N-Gage every time you jump to a new system in ED? Is frontier in cahoots with Nokia?

>>151355798
>Dad jokes for a dad game

I see what you did there.

Reinstalled SC overnight and just quickly launched the hangar before leaving for work.

The thing was completely empty.

Should I be worried?