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Platonic Edition

http://store.steampowered.com/app/273350/
http://evolve.wikia.com/wiki/Evolve_Wiki

>What is Evolve?
Evolve uses an asymmetrical structure where five players, four playing as hunters and one as the monster, battle against each other in an industrialized alien planet called Shear.
Stage 2 is the transition to Free To Play + a lot of gameplay changes.

>What's new?
http://www.evolveupdates.com/stage2/

>I heard the game was dead?
It was, ~200 players on Steam and little to no updates from the developers. If F2P can bring it back is unknown, but as of right now it's been hovering in the teen thousands.

>Should I "get" it?
It's free. 18GB. Download and test it out.

>F2P Model?
Every week, four hunters (one of each class) and one monster will be in the free rotation. There are currently 24 Hunters and 7 Monsters in total. By playing the character tutorials, you unlock one hunter (Markov) and one monster (Goliath) to keep forever.

Additional monsters, hunters, perks, and skins are unlocked by earning silver keys. Silver keys are earned by playing the game, leveling up, or getting login bonuses. Currently you can't actually buy silver keys, presumably so they can test the unlock rate, but that's coming later.

There is also a monthly login bonus punch card. You get one punch for each day you log in. Beyond silver keys, this can directly award new Hunters and Skins.

>What if I don't want to grind for characters and perks?
You can buy the game and it to gives your account full founder benefits, which gives you 30k keys and most characters.

>Microtransation?
None as of yet.

>Steam group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/evolvevg

>Perk info(Inc. how to unlock them)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=721252371

>Patch info:
https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/introducing-cataclysm-and-co-op-update-2-05-live-now/97767

>Old:
>>151189292
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>>151398825
nah, Behemoth is more my cake
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l-l-lewd thread
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>unbalanced, the game

kraken shitter everywhere
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>Evolve profile service error

gee golly thanks trs
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Have they said anything about Slim for next patch ? Feels like last nerf was a bit unecessary to be honest.
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Reminder to buy Rocket king and lord if you haven't already, they're bugged and cost 1k keys
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>>151400773
>hunter nerf
>unnecessary
not in TRS's eyes!
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14-88th for fuck this game and gas tryhard monster pickers.
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>40 wins streak monster with legacy avatar
>beats us easily since medic can't jetpack
>gg
fuck you
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>>151401685
git gud
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>>151401685
29 winstreak lvl 40 kraken against my team composed of lvl 27 val (me), lvl 4 waggie, lvl 2 parnell and lvl 5 griffin that didn't put a spike down the entire game.
How the fuck do these people even reach lvl 20 to play ranked?
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>>151401937
>>151401685
better question is why the stupid match making puts noobs with monstershitters in a match
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>>151401553
Nah but seriously, it just feels like they knew he was very sub par, tried something out of desperation and backpedalled.
I don't even know what they want to do with the character, I sorta like his kit but it still feels like something's missing. Not to mention his secondary is the most useless thing in the game.
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Do y'all know how pros rank the monsters these days? They are putting Moliath and Elder at the top, then OG Goliath, then Kraken, then Gorgon/Wraith, Bob at the bottom
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>>151402802
>Elder at the top
Too obvious.
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>>151402946
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Dead serious, not trolling rn.
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What kind of stuff would you do to Caira?

Regular Caira not that pig-disgusting helmet-wearing Quantum whore.
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>tfw saw my first hacker in co-op
why?
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>>151403370
I want to inject her with Wraith HNA.
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>>151403467
did he at least make it end fast? be grateful, coop is just for grind, the quicker the better
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Anyone else experienced more profile and connection issues and bugs after last patch?

Now they're not only killing the game with bad balance fuck ups but they are adding more and more bugs.
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>>151398825
That is truly dank my man
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>>151403907
Yeah I got some weird stuff since last patch. People getting frozen in place (sometimes only monster). Time out connections, people just getting disconnected and that can't reconnect.
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Since you guys are obsessed with wraith, here's a fun fact: Wraith currently has a 30-35% win rate across all skill levels!
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>>151404363
pls no bully
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>be medic
>team mates pick kala/torvald/waggie/cabot
>ask them to switch
>"no dude trust us"
>I respond "whatever, if you're picking trash so am I"
>pick laz
>"LOL DUDE LAZ IS GOOD"

Only the dead can know peace from this evil.
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wew this shit game isn't letting me sign in anymore

out of fucking nowhere
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>stage 3 kraken
>team is preparing for defense at relay
>trapper goes on his own and dies to it
>kraken comes to the relay
>kala uses a teleport and teleports where the trapper died to revive him
>assault traps me and himself with the monster
>lose
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>>151404527
are you ok
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>>151404527
he literally is though, have you seen his comparative winrate?
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>>151405584

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kBwFPSa54w
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>>151404626
hunters with higher than 0.7 WLR are autobanned for hacking.
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>>151405717
for once turning it off and on again worked

it doesn't make much sense though as my internet wasn't screwy or anything
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>>151405650
>only competent 4 man premades play with laz and they build the rest of the team around him
>only 65% win rate
so OP, pls nerf.
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OFFICIAL /EVOG/ TIER LIST

meta tier: markov, parnell, griffin, abe, val, hank

viable enough tier: hyde, crow, rval, sunny

barely mediocre tier: maggie, lennox, t hank, bucket, e griffin

too counterable tier: blitz markov, jack, cabot, caira, slim, EMET

fundementally awful design tier and worthless tier: kala, q caira, lazarus, w maggie, torvald
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hey guys, what if the hunter win rate telemetry TRS is looking at is actually W/L ratio and they think it's actually percentages because nothing they see is above 1.0? if this is the case hunters have a 25% win rate, not 50% like they claim.
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>>151405650

>M-MUH TELEMETRY

I hope your one of those retarded shitposters that just spams TRS comments.
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>win 150k matches to unlock skin
What?
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>>151400872
holy fuck thank you dude
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>>151406708
>meta tier: markov, parnell, griffin, abe, val, hank
I wouldn't say meta tier. They are just good for all situations.

>viable enough tier: hyde, crow, rval, sunny
Yep.

>barely mediocre tier: maggie, lennox, t hank, bucket, e griffin
I would push Bucket up to viable tier. His mechanized recharge is really good to have and his sentry guns are decent consistent damage.

>too counterable tier: blitz markov, jack, cabot, caira, slim, EMET
With recent buffs I would put EMET in viable tier as well. Destroying buoys means nothing as he can keep cranking them out and a 300hp heal burst every 4.5-6 seconds is great

>fundementally awful design tier and worthless tier: kala, q caira, lazarus, w maggie, torvald
Yep. Laz and Torvald can be decent if the whole team builds around them but there are better picks out there. Even if you build a team around them it pushes them just up to "too counterable tier"
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is gunslinger/rocket lord/rocket king good for parnell
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>>151408603
shut the fuck up and get to it!
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>>151409405
force/swap/force
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>>151406739
Pretty sure they account for that.
They just balance for the top 1% instead of striking a balance.
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I started playing 5 days ago. I realy enjoy Evolve. I mostly played hunter, but after my first monster win I was literally shaking. One of the best experiences in gaming in a long time. I still enjoy hunters more. Im lvl 17 now and there is no real point to this post. I cant wait to understand more of the game and get realy bitter.
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>>151409574
>Not picking rocket after the nerf of everything else
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>>151410509
>I cant wait to understand more of the game and get realy bitter
oh you'll have so much bitterness in your heart, you won't even know where to put it ..
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>>151410794
you poor fool

>they nerfed it so it's bad now
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>>151410881
After looking at all the hunters for the first time, I thought Torvald and Slim looked by far the coolest. I def wanted to buy them first. The bitterness is already starting.
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>>151410509
>I was literally shaking
you some kinda pussy senpai?
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>>151410915
I'd rather take more mobility over going full DPS.
The jump height alone ensures that I can empty an RPG load from a difficult angle, and more jetpack means hero mode will not go to waste when the monster is an avoiding piece of shit.
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>>151411206
it was probably the rush of battle, famiibo
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>>151411206
it's called adrenaline, anon.
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>>151411206
>>151411318
Yeah, just shitting on four people at the same time is pretty cool. I can see why all the 14yo edgelords are monster mains. But it seems realy easy, even coming fresh from the tutorial. Of course the hunter are also shit at that level. Since then i only played hunter and its super fun.
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>>151411318
>>151411424
lol bet you dweebs get adrenaline rush from dayz get a life lmfao haha
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>>151411813
it affects you less and less quite quickly since monster skill cap is so low and you see that you can't even lose as a monster unless you meet good premades or a hacker
might as well use only your dick to play and poke 1-4 to win as monster
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>>151411813
>He doesn't get adrenaline rushes
You're either playing wrong or playing against shitty pubs.
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>>151412206
im just really cool and idgaf because its just a game xD
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>>151412106
>>151411714

hey, im the noob posting here. What felt weird to me was the low CD on the monster abilities. I could press 1-4 on one guy and by the time 4 was finished, 1 was already up again. That doesnt seem right. Im just mashing buttons and all i have to do is stay on target.
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>>151411231
Learn to aim

you need both 1st and 3rd tier damage to 1 shot spider traps

your job as assault is to do damage

need I say more?
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It's getting hard not to commit social suicide and tell my friends they all fucking suck and the game is an absolute waste of time with them because they haven't gotten better and still play like garbage even after 40~ levels
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>>151412483
it's not the fact that people lose itself, it's the fact that people lose because one (or more) of the hunters is retarded and that causes a massive imbalance when a monster takes a lot less skill and coordination to win.

what this game needs is for monsters to have a higher skill cap that's more on par with hunters. which is hard to do since needing to communicate and coordinate with 3 other people isn't an issue for the monster.
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>>151413458
play in-house games against them as monster until they git gud.
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>>151413165
Aiming is not going to help you when the monster is 50 meters away and behind a cliff.
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>>151413656
>Game session simultaneously interacts with 3 other sessions
>Monsters in various discrete game sessions must accomplish asinine subobjectives in tandem with other monsters to aid eachother
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>>151414165
>monster needs to complete a randomized subobjective in order to be able to evolve
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>>151414097
neither will your jetpack perk dumbass
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>>151414447
>Fuel recharges faster
>Use it to boost around a pillar
>Shoot monster
?
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>>151416136
but the most annoying thing about fuel isn't even the time it takes to recharge, but the time it takes to START recharging. TRS is retarded for doing that, because there's nothing you can do when being targeted by a monster.
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>first cataclysm game
>wraith just straight up regens as much armor as rage trooper deals damage in the open
>43k damage in 13minutes to kill a WRAITH
WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA
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>>151417515
Probably the same person who got them to disable the skip map button.
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>>151417776
why do people need a skip map button BEFORE Cataclysm?
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>>151417918
to watch the little green/red square toggle back and forth while they wait for people to stop dodging.
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>>151417515
>50k keys

how
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>>151418094
>to stop dodging
I capslocked at a guy to "JUST PLAY THE FUCKING MONSTER ALREADY" after seeing him leave the game for the third time, and he actually did it. Felt good.
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>>151418129
>play a bunch
>dont buy anything
>???
>50k keys
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>>151418129
>he missed the 150 bonus keys per game week
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Did they really disable the skip button to force people to play this garbage map?
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>there are people that suck at monster they have to putt a wall of text up on steam
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Anybody wants to team up? I'm in the group chat.
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>>151418928
>>151419109
was that rephrasing really necessary?
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>>151419045
retarded monster playing shitters are pure cringe material

you have to be so fucking bad at this game to lose as monster

if your win ratios are not over 90% after 20 matches, you need to fucking uninstall on the spot
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>>151419257
No, but neither was your question.
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>>151419257
it's just a reddit poster don't worry about him
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>>151419512
touché
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>>151419564
what does it smell like?
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>>151419879
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>>151419564
I want to plunge my DNA so deep into her HNA that her RNA melts.
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>>151419564
>>151420051
kys
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>>151419879
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>>151420185
I'm already dead inside, besides if I'm dead who will my mother leech off of then?
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>>151419564
I want to bite it
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>>151421970
>you will never be able to touch your xeno waifu
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>>151421970
>>151422242
this meme isnt funny
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>>151422686
the pain isn't funny either
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>>151422686
>implying it's a meme
>implying there is people that don't genuinely want to fuck it

(I'm not one of them)
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>tfw no wraith wife
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>Get forced into playing monster
>That fucking map where meteors and shit are raining down
>Pounce on somebody
>Immediately 3 fucking meteors hit me and take off 2/3 of my health
Nope, I'm done, uninstalling.
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>>151422862
Huh?
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>>151422862
wow it's as if you couldn't dodge the match!
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>>151423086
I too enjoy spending 15 minutes in queue only to alt-tab to /evog/ to see people bitching about how overpowered monsters are yet nobody seems to want to play them.
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>>151419045
Yes, us poor monsters don't stand a chance, ehehehe.
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>>151419879
Damp, a bit like caves and grass.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10971314
http://www.strawpoll.me/10971314
http://www.strawpoll.me/10971314
http://www.strawpoll.me/10971314
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>12k shotgun damage
>monster tracked for 82% of the time
>11 minutes and a half
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>>151424078
>only managed to maintain 18dps
>took over 2 minutes to dart the monster
shit abe.
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>>151423818
>so hard, Lazarus couldn't fix it
so always?
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>Finish Blitzkov level 40 just to get it done after dropping it during his mega-nerfs
>The skin looks fucking great

Too bad I am averse to playing this piece of shit with his inconsistent damage
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Strawpoll? Alright then

http://www.strawpoll.me/10971528
http://www.strawpoll.me/10971528
http://www.strawpoll.me/10971528
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>daily win nerfed to 100
>it now takes over a month to get enough for a single rank in a single perk from it
Thanks, TRS.
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>>151427248
made 20k keys off the prefer monster shenanigans while in a premade
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Holy shit the meteorite heal armor as fast as stinkbombs, I've never felt that bad for the hunters.
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Dream team against Kraken?
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>>151432613
doing something else for 20 minutes
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>>151432613
leave the moment the game starts because kraken is never fucking fun to play against assuming the kraken player actually has half a brain.
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Best Girl Strawpoll?

No aliens, otherwise Wraith would win.
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>>151433631
Fuck forgot the link.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10971966
http://www.strawpoll.me/10971966
http://www.strawpoll.me/10971966
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>>151433631
>they don't invite gorgon to hang out with them
poor girl
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>>151435245
She brought her zola skin. Behemoth was hungry.
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>>151433631
Caira. I like her stupid voice and intelligence.

Runnerup might be Lennox.
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>>151433631
>>151433806
I can't
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>>151436585
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>>151436830
>Press trillion dollars button
>Gain trillion dollars
>Use half of trillions to buy Wraith trap facility
>Now be rich and have mind-broken wraith waifu
Fucking scalies make things so hard for themselves.
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>>151436830
easy one
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wraithfags are cancer
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>monster fuckers
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>>151439253
Who makes these? I loved the EMET one.
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>tfw I have more problems with people that pick Bucket and expect to actually win
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>>151439947
bucket+emet is really fucking strong.
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>>151439253
>picked Hyde on the new map without thinking
>monster took all damage reduction perks
>mfw

I did not realize how bullshit healing meteors are until we had a dome filled with them. At least the monster was a good sport and let us fuck around a bit to show off how dumb it was.
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I want to sniff Caira's dirty butthole
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>>151443278
>dirty
you meant Jackal, right?
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>>151398825

damn the population took a nose dive after the last few updates, what went wrong?
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>>151443618
Monster babies got their wish and huntered got nerfed patch after patch. While the monsters got buffed patch after patch.
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>>151443793
this
monster shitter get upset that OP hunter prevented them to go above 30 winning streaks, TRS acted
now only 1/5 people have fun per match
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Huh watching Wardooms stream and he let slip some possible buffs to Caira and Val (he said the devs were thinking about it so its not set in stone)

Caira is possibly getting an extra grenade (probably to counteract the nerf to capacity perks)

Val is getting better self-sustain? Not sure if they were talking about R.Val. or buffing normal Val's healburst.
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>>151444916
>buffing one of the best medics with another heal nade
holy shit best girl is getting better
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>>151444916
>Val is getting better self-sustain?
I think Vals healing burst have to different values. her selfheal is lower than the teamheal. a little buff would be welcome, because depending on your support the team falls and crumble with her when focused
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Slim is no longer a shit medic

Health Regen, Damage Reduction, Class CDR as perks

Ive outhealed a shitty goliath when he had me in a corner. Since the buffs and the baby nerf they gave him I've gone 10-1 with him. Reload speed or capacity is probably pretty good on perks too.
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Why the fuck is TRS so ignorant? are they using their shitty statistics to please 2k?
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commencing dump of justice
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10972776
http://www.strawpoll.me/10972776
http://www.strawpoll.me/10972776
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>>151447654
>pubs
all monsters, but Kraken especially
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Don't interrupt a woman eating

That's all of them
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>>151447654
>>151448090
gorgon is literally the easiest monster
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>>151448090
Kraken is shit with retards.
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>>151448216
a good husband interrupts his love before she gets too fat
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>>151298820
took me pretty long, and it's obviously nowhere near the quality of most drawfags, but I had fun.
I still hope you enjoy it.
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>>151447315
he's shit after the nerf he just got and the hit to perks.
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>>151449052
kek
Lennox is finally useful again
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>>151449052
How to fix Lennox: Make her stay airborne as long as she lands punches.
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>>151449052
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>>151449052
please color and polish this, it has amazing potential
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>>151449052
Ten out of fucking ten
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>>151449725
Not drawfag, but these drawings aren't exactly the kind you can colour in
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>>151449052
9/10
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This thread is getting slow.
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yfw you realized the monsters are basically pokemon
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>>151452535
I would love to catch a Goliath and tear my enemies appart in some turnment for little kids, watching them cry as he eats the remains
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>>151452535
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>>151452726
I want Goliath to catch me
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>>151452980
I want to come home every day and have a cute Goliath get all excited and assault me with its tongue.
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>>151453631
I want to come home from hard work and see Wraith in the kitchen, taking the meatloaf out of the oven. she calls for dinner and our 5 beautiful kids will run down the stairs.
>it will never happen
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>>151401937

>Team had Waggie
You deserved that loss.

>Team had Griffith
No seriously, you deserved that loss.

I haven't met a Griffith yet who could do his job. Always bitching about how his harpoon is useless. AND IT IS!

But then again, I'm just some shit assault who has the easy job. Or preferably, the Monster. :^)
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What's your longest round?
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>>151454935
>blaming the trapper
every time
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>>151454935
23 minutes or so. Fuck kraken
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>>151454935
just had a round where I got 17k damage on abe

our Parnell was complaining about frame drops when we had a Q Caira on the cataclysm map against a kraken.
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>>151455384
He was right to blame the trapper. He domed every time he could, also at the relay, and got himself killed. The monster literally had less than 100 health when he almost wiped us. Daisy did more for us than the trapper.
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>>151456706
Why do people play as W/Maggie when the other trappers (except electro griffin) are superior? Also lol at the W/Maggie nerfs last patch, she's already dogshit
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>>151456706
he would suck with every class, because the problems you described is not trapper specific
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>>151454935
32 minutes
I don't remember how it happened but it involved a wraith and a slim
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>tfw no wraith wife to come home to and tell her how my day of hunting was
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>>151449052
Nicely done! If it's alright, I flipped the first panel around because it puts the focus on Lennox suddenly turning 180 degrees instead of the camera.
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>>151458076
Yeah, makes sense now that you say it. Thanks!
What's with the filename though?
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>>151458304
>he doesn't know about the Lennox-acceleration
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>>151458516
I do. Why else would I have made that? I just thought there was another meaning to the name.
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>>151458684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9hdS2Qtwq8

In this case autocannon backblast hits Krakens with her fist.
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>>151458684
>I do. Why else would I have made that?
>I
nice try "anonymous"
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>>151458885
i mean.. "He does, why else would he have made it?"

>>151458824
makes sense now
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So has this game gotten better since going f2p? is there any p2w stuff? I can I unlock all the important stuff just by playing the game? Thanks for your time
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>>151460489
some aspects have gotten better, but its overall worse and getting worse

theres no p2w, yet, and you have to grind for everything you want, theres no microtransactions to speed it up
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>>151460642
How has it gotten worse?
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>>151460642
You're doing something wrong if you've had to "grind" for anything.
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>>151460743
Each update adds some good things and some bad things. The most recent one has been balancing monsters in favor of hunters.
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>>151461694
>The most recent one has been balancing monsters in favor of hunters
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>>151461847
I haven't gotten much sleep but i'm pretty sure hunters are losing now because of whiny monsterbabbies
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>>151460743
>nerf hunters continously
>keep buffing monsters

TRS just really has a hate boner for assault class

we went from 100% dmg reduc for defense matrix to 55% now
every assault has been nerfed repeatedly now
all dps perks keep getting nerfed
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What are the best perks for Parnell for MAXIMUM FUCK damage? Markov just tickles now and blitz is crazy unreliable.

I don't care if I have to weapon swap every 2 seconds to achieve it.
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>>151464731
jump height

i see cucks on here shill damage/switch/damage but damage % on the measly shotgun pellets seems utterly wasted
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>>151464939
This.
I can't count how many times the rocket perk's jump height has allowed me to land rockets on a fleeing monster, and this is just one aspect of the perk.
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>>151464939
>>151465265
>triple jump height perks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-dMSstLDqM
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>player found
>player found
>player found
>player found
>Still searching

T-thanks
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>>151464939
Naw Damage/Swap/Damage I think is still better

The % doesn't effect the shotgun as much but is nice for the rocket launcher. Synergize with a Cabot and that damage jumps even more. Parnell has good range so its not like you need to be boosting around as much as Lennox or Blitz. You should have more than plenty of fuel to take a rock or two and still get the altitude you need.
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>>151465820
Why are you taking tier one damage? It's literal shit.
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>>151466447
While its weak its still a tiny bit of extra damage on your rockets. Everything at tier 1 is kinda shit for Parnell so might as well add a little bit of extra damage since thats your main role as assault. He doesn't need any movement/jetpack buffs as much because his rage gives him speed and he has good range.
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>>151463407
yeah but imagine how catastrophic it always is when a 3000 hour twitch monster autist actually loses to some random premade team and he loses his 420 winstreak?
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I often take T1 Health Regen on assaults, then either double Jetpack Hero or double Capacity for T2+T3.
That little bit of extra health regen can save your ass when somebody else is being focused in fights and the medic can't take time to heal your ass. The jetpack is to never lose LoS of the monster inside a dome.
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Any newer players need tips? Monsters in particular but I know hunters pretty well. specific questions
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>tumbleweed.gif
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>>151472254
>monster mainer

kek
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>>151472254
Have any gud tactics for Bob?
Perk setups too?
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>>151470795
t1 health regen is one of the most worthless perks, idiot
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>>151472634
Bob?
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>>151473579
Behemoth
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>>151473610
Why is he called that?

And a few good behemoths have rekt me before. Well maybe I just suck, but it seemed like the behemoth started out with like 3 in fissure and 1 in lava bomb or something like that. Maybe it was flip flopped, but I know he didn't use the big wall ability or tongue grab at all until later when staging up.
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>>151472634
I mean I gotta start off by saying a team of pros will beat you 8 times out of 10 because Behemoth's traversal is poor and you're going to eat so much chase damage it isn't even funny. You can try to counter this with move speed/feeding speed or damage resist perks, stack them high. For your average team, use Brawler - Cooldown - Cooldown. People can dodge your melee all day so you gotta rely on short cooldowns (esp fissure when somebody is running around a pillar constantly)

Start with 2 points of fissure and 1 in lava bombs (or vice versa), 1 in tongue grab. Predict their movement or hit their platform with your lava bomb - > land a tongue grab -> pop a fissure as they're flying to you -> melee the shit out of them, roll melee to finish them off. Hold down the tongue grab button and release to be sure you're going to land it. Stage 2 go 3 Fissure, 1 Tongue, 3 Lava. Only pick up rock wall if there's a Lazarus since you can murder somebody, block off right after they die and feed on them. Stage 3 put 1 in rock wall since 2 in tongue grab is more than enough and it can be used to cut off retreats but it's largely unreliable right now.
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>finally getting the hang of bob, doing good in a match
>steam servers down for routine maintenence

What in the fuck. Never in 10 years have I been kicked off a game for steam servers going down, much less maintenance.
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>>151472621
I play no preference; I've fight with just as many shitty pub teams as you all have. Eventually you'll get frustrated enough with clueless teammates and you'll pick up monster (or just quit the game)
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this patch has ruined playing hunters
the good hunters got nerfed and its easier than ever for monsters to avoid engagements and just rush stage 2->3

on top of that the usual shitters who pick the worst hunters are still throwing games and mmr is still fucked with giving you sub 10 hour kids as your teammates vs a 1000+ hour monster
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>>151477387
b-b-b-uh it takes SKILLL into account not levels or hours! a 10 hour game time player can be just as skilled as someone with 1000+ hours of experience!
t. TRS
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THOSE HIPS DON'T LIE
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>>151477387

played ranked
find a team to play with

Your fault
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>>151478869
Pretty clear that nobody here wants to hear that they have to put a good team together to win regularly in this game.
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Game is broked?
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>>151454935
21m
I blame trapper too!

Oh wait
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>>151455952
>17k
heh, just a baby
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>>151480329
seems like it is steam related as some are saying other games are having the same/similar issues
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>>151480697
great

time to fap to shemales and go to bed i guess
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Where were you when you realized they invented meteorites so they could justify not touching kala?

>Kala is good guise, proof being she's required to deal health damage when the armor regen outpaces your assault's damage while standing still
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>no servers are available to play this game
Thanks TRS
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>everyone dodges shit meteor map

Did TRS think that map was fun or something?

They're all monster players so I guess they enjoy the infinite armor, but that shit is cancer.
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>>151487904
TRS has spent the crucial time after making the game free on making absolutely shit characters and now a shitty meteor variation, instead of making completely new maps and gamemodes, it's like they want the game to die.
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>forced to play monster
>eh whatever
>decide to make it interesting for everyone else
>pick 3x movement speed
>sneak faster than other monsters would run
>dont use traversal because no use
>tfw hunters only know my general direction for some seconds every half a minute

damn that was fun, still lost but I also did many mistakes
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>>151474090
>why is he called that?
dis development name was bob the boulder.
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wraithfags seriously need to kill themselves
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>>151490406
t. Gorgon
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>>151490406
wraith is actually pretty weak right now, especially considering she has almost no vertical capability.
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>pretty much every other perk nerfed
>rocket lord and rocket king price dropped
Any bets on time till rocket perks get nerfed? I guess everyone and their mother runs those two now.
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>Slim joins the team
>He actually plays well
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>>151491402
his healing bursts can recharge incredible fast now and you dont have to run aimbot for it
all the skill to do well with Slim boils down to "avoid the worst attacks" and "press 4 as fast as possible"
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>>151491402
after the nerfs to capacity and the 10-15% nerfs to his party and self heal I've stopped playing him. With only a single good thing in his kit he's pretty ass. Maybe if his bug wasn't killed by dot and his spore cloud actually did something i'd pick him up again.
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>>151491685
I'm still baffled that TRS actually greenlighted the spore could as a weapon and thought it would EVER have its uses.
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>>151491945
TRS is literally just one guy left who manages the updates
the rest is working on L4D3
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>>151492112
I thought L4D belonged to Valve now.
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>>151492226
>Valve making new games ever
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aviary when?
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what is Lennox famous for?
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>>151497475
Building all the relays you fight to protect
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>>151497475
"famous" engineer, owns the colony on shear, mother of the jackal.
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>>151498065
>>151498074
>>151497475
>that banter convo between her and Griffin where he literally BTFOes her
the keks are real
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>>151497475
her secret technique >>151458076
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>tfw people are jelly of your autistic coop grind winstreak and have to comment on it despite it having nothing to with them

and it's always shitters with under 10 wins as well

l2grind newbs xD
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>>151498623
I wonder... what would be the best class to sabotage winstreak accolade attempts once you've done it yourself? Medic or Assault. The monster AI is absolutely terrible and I know for a fact it's beatable without a medic since I had one retard not move from the drop off point for the whole match but the 2 others on the team carried their weight and none of us went down even once. But how about an assault that only seems to miss a whole lot? Could that ruin some shitter's day? I hate nearly everyone playing the game so killing someone's streak like that might be fun.
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>>151498989
If the monster is Goliath or Bob, Assault without a doubt. The rest of the team will probably never do significant damage in time for the monster to lose.
Though if you're that bored I'd suggest playing another video game.
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>>151499235
people want their winstreaks in the AI mode and it's only a retarded goliath
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>dome gets down after 1.5 monster healthbars
wasn't it 2? did they change it?
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>>151499403
changes depending on monsters stage
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>>151499403
it's percentage based + depends which dome in terms of numbers (1st, 2nd, etc)
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>>151499403
I miss the old gurranteed two minutes dome
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>>151499403
dome loses 60 seconds when x% of the monster's max hp is lost, armor doesn't count. if a goliath/MG is standing still at stage one with no armor when the dome goes down and you have your whole team headshotting him from start to finish the you can do about a quarter of his HP before the dome drops. the percentage increases when the monster stages up.
>>
Alright I've heard your complaints about the frustration of a monster player losing their 20+ game win streak, so I think we here at Turtle Rock Studios have a solution.

Armor will also count towards taking down the dome, as health does. It doesn't make sense that you can just do that much damage to the monster and give him no escape. We hope that with this change, the game will finally be balanced.
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>>151500419
how about we add a dome that the monster can throw down that traps the hunters for 60 seconds and can be deployed regardless of LoS and distance? it's not fair that when I hit stage 3 without getting domed once that the hunters can get to the relay and defend it before I destroy it.
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>>151500625
Can we also put all monster abilities on instant cooldown? Sometimes the hunters take off three whole bars of armor and I get really worried about my winstreak.
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>>151500625
>it's not fair

WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
delicious monster shitter tears
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>>151500419
>monster player losing their 20+ game win streak
this game favours hunters too much
no need for drastic changes, though. some new monster perks that lets you regenerate armor during a fight would be enough
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>>151500876
>>151501206

Fucking retard idiot that doesn't know anything about game design or balance right here.
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>>151501206
>Not health regen
C'mon man, us monster players are dying out here.
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>>151501206
but there already is a perk that lets them recover armor faster AND increase dr at the same time

>>151501283
fuk u and ure whore mom
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>see Trello roadmap
>announced 3 new map variations
>variations
>not a single new map announced
well shit. time to stop wasting my time
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>>151501685
and worst of all, they will have RNG elements in them probably
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>>151501348
>but there already is a perk that lets them recover armor faster AND increase dr at the same tim
yea, but I have to hide. thats not fair when they dome you in a stupid place

>>151501283
eat shit like you always do
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>>151501794
Not to mention the fact it looks fucking retarded
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>>151502065
what the stupid fuck is this?
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>>151502261
Gigantic light pillars to help people find important animals

Just kill me now
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>>151502065
just how many women and sjw dykes do they have working there?
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>>151502261
The new map variant friendo.
Because fuck working on getting the old maps into Stage 2 and working on this dumb shit later, we need this NOW.
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>>151502065
its sad that there is nobody who put a hand on TRS shoulder and say very honest that it's a shit idea they should not waste any time on.
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>>151502065
>tfw no burkha gf to ruin a fun game for you
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>>151502445
>Burkha
>Showing neck
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>>151501813
Please stop having autism and learn to recognize parody and sarcasm.

Thank you.
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>>151502350
.... don't those already have the pillars? do they need to be even more obvious with this? holy shit
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>>151502593
you first, Faggotron
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>>151502065
The game isn't dying anymore

It's being executed
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>>151502539
it was a joke, wagey
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>>151502065
the fuck is this technicolor rainbow shitshow
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>>151502610
right now we only have light beams on albinos. this looks like it will show all wildlife spawns with different colors for different types. assuming the hunters can see these beams too then it makes tracking the monster even easier and forces the monster to not finish off a group of wildlife in order to not give the hunters what is essentially a free ping.
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>>151502065

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i4ucx3yYp4

aaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaAAAAAAA!!
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>>151502998
Our imminent future.
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>>151503237
You alright mang?
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>>151503429
TRS is giving me a stroke
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>>151503237
can I get a summary or at least a time stamp on the important bits?
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>>151503621
22:37 for incoming cancer
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>>151503237
>hashtags
>plays like shit
>'easy game'
devs are literally normie monster shitters
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>>151503621
>he doesn't have 46 minutes to suffer through the whole thing

woooow look at our important busy VIP man
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God fucking dammit, the Parnell has "Challeging" tag for a reason. If you can't play him properly and lay down your shots please delet.
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>>151503237
>a SJW with a master degree in being offended and some minor degree in something computer related, probably blogging
game is dead, you can't criticise at this point anymore, because TRS will get only defensive and drives even faster towards the cliff
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>>151503707
thanks, anon.

>>151503793
I'm not going to be the one to blame when the family plan data cap gets broken this month.
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>>151503872
>playing cabot
die
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>>151503872
>parnell
>switch between 2 weapons when they run out
>press 3 in dome fights when the ability has reloaded
>challenging
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>>151503718
Did you expect anything different given this game's "balancing"?
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>>151503872
>>151504157

>"Challeging"
I always wondered who came up with this classification
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>>151503993
desu looks like the assault was more to blame on this game
sub 10k damage with the amplifier is laughable if there's a parnell on the team
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>>151504157
>>151504258
People who understand that you need to fucking hit 98% shots to actually outdamage Markov
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>>151504258
it actually requires you to aim, especially if the target is far away and moving and you need to land shots with rocket
thats alreaday too much for the average casual
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>>151503237
>there are at least 2 female producers

oh god

anyway I'd totally fuck Tara though
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>>151504490
>being this desperate
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>>151504306
pants on head retarded post lad
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>>151504553
she's kinda cute
she just needs to lose the lip piercing, lose weight and stop dyeing her hair in stupid colors
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>>151504553
>not wanting to hump tara

what are you, nu-male?
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>>151504963
I'm not into pony but this titts are not from this planet
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>>151504963
yellow quiet>purple smart
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>>151504963
even in the video her tits are about to burst from that shirt and that's fucking delicious
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>>151504963
Who does she voices in Evolve?
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>>151505752
nobody, but she was electromagnetic motion capture model for Wraith titts
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>>151506024
first time seeing real degenerate
cool
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should I make a macro that types into all-chat "UHHHHN THICKER" whenever I evolve as wraith?
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>>151506836
wow, 2 degenerates in a row with minimum time span
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>>151506917
are you implying that there's anything else to actually discuss about this game besides wraith's juicy thighs?
>>
Make Torvald great again
>>
Will Wraith's adaptation be Thicc Wraith?
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>>151507590
>again
when was he ever great
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>>151507651
in old-gen Evolve

he had 100% ban rate in competitive kek
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>>151507651
he was more bullshit than Waggie on launch. God I miss it so much.
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>>151507596
someone make art of this now
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>>151508020
>tfw Cabot damage amped a full barrage
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fuck torvald, unnerf lennox NOW
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>>151508316
>>
+2 /evog/ premade, no monsters allowed

steam://joinlobby/273350/109775243423399987/76561198001239855 or join from steam group chat
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http://steamcommunity.com/app/273350/discussions/0/353916584666587509/

>another user dissatisfied with the bugged garbage bots in the game
>oblivious furry TRS cocksucker posts a reply

/evog/, instead of complaining why don't you "wright" a constructive response on the "officail" forums?
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>>151506024
Please post details.
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>>151508596
Logic doesn't apply to the TRSian's brain
>>
what other dev would so actively try to kill their own game? I mean every week they fucking slam another nail in the coffin, it's amazing

usually games die because of neglect but not in this case
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>>151509517
this isn't neglect, it's straight up abuse. I'm reporting TRS to the CPS right now.
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>>151509659
I hope Evolve gets a new loving home. CDPR or Blizzard
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>>151509818
>Blizzard
>Good
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>>151509818
>goliath skin for diablo in HotS
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>>151509902
they never abuse their own
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>>151510039
Hope you look forward to loot boxes. Now with a one in a hundred chance of containing the skin you actually want!
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>>151510039
Yeah they do.
Warcraft is a rotten corpse with raped lore that would make chinese cartoons look consistent and well thought out.
Diablo is just as bad.
Starcraft is almost as bad.
And their games all suck sticky casul dick.
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>>151510039
>they never abuse their own
o i am laffin
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>>151509902
At least if Blizzard got their hands on this game they'd raise the polycount of every female hunter's butt.
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>>151510815
So lemme see if I got this right
>Shit lore
>Shit gameplay
>Loot boxes
Is fine because
>Virtual butts
Waifu-fags. Not even once
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>>151510539
I'll grant you the lore is destroyed, and WoW is a rancid pile of decomposition, but come on man. All of Blizzard's games have been hits (Diablo 3 was shit though)

If Blizzard got a hold of Evolve, you know they wouldn't be making these absolute dumbfuck balance and design decisions which are responsible for killing off the game.

>>151510183
Who gives a fuck about skins? If you care that much just dump your money into the boxes, be a retard.
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>>151510815
>they'd raise the polycount of every female hunter's butt.

don't forget the boobies

also jiggle physics
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>>151511391
Blizzard sure knows their audience
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>>151511240
I'm not even remotely interested in Overwatch as a game.
It's Blizzard's attempt at cashing in on Team Fortress 2's gameplay and the "hero" shooter fad. It's a meme game that'll die out within the next couple years or less.
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>>151511380
Wrong.
All of blizzard's game have been hit within the blizzard fanbase, which is a self-contained ecosystem of blind retards.
Diablo 3 is shit.
Starcraft 2 is meh.
Hearthstone isn't a game.
Hots is as much of a window display as it is a game.
OW is as much of a window display as it is a game.
Blizzard's strong suit is casualizing, marketing, and click-bait. Not game design OR balance.
>>
>Prefers Monster
>Prefers Monster
>Prefers Monster
>Prefers Support
>Prefers Medic
>"[All] why did you leave the lobby retard!?"

GEEZ I DON'T KNOW
may be Because these pussy monster mainerS will leave it anyway and I will have to requeue
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>>151512248
did you miss the week of 150 free keys per game for being in a party?
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>>151512670
...what
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>>151508040
I have art of it

You do NOT want to see it
>>
So niggas anyone wanna play?
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>>151511380
That's exactly my point numbnuts. In Evolve's current state I can consistently earn enough keys to be able to buy the shit I want. With Blizzard I'd have to buy loot boxes with real money and pray that they have the shit I want.
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>>151512827
last week they put in a bonus 50 keys for picking no pref and 150 for not getting your #1 pref. naturally TRS didn't stop to think for a second and people who were in a party would set monster to #1 and always get the free keys because they couldn't get monster.
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>>151512989
read this

>>151509151
>>151509151

were still up
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>>151513104
It was still better than people leaving for not getting their preference over and over.
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Got a link to the steam group?
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>>151515367
>hello I am too retarded to read the OP post

kill yourself, friend
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>>151513123
says dead
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>>151515036
I completely agree, kinda wish they didn't fix it though, I enjoyed getting 250+ keys a game. you can still pref a hunter as #1 and set monster as #2 while solo and dodge if you don't get monster for fast key farming, especially if you just wait at spawn and let them kill you.
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>missed the party
Fuck. Anyone still wanna play?
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>7 dmg per pellet on goliath
>less than 70 dmg per rocket
>on a monster with already tons of health
"Fun".
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>>151512141
>What is Warcraft 1-3
>What is Diablo 1 and 2
>Implying SC2 isn't a great game
>Implying Overwatch isn't a great game

Casualizing I can grant you, but marketing? Click-bait? Do you even know what the fuck these are? Blizzard has a vast amount of resources at their disposal, of course they have marketing out the ass. The balance in Overwatch is more balanced than this piece of shit garbage game.

>>151513014
You don't have to buy loot boxes... you get one every level up and they can contain credits or whatever. I have 2k saved up in the game and haven't spent a dime on lootboxes, which are PURELY COSMETIC might I reiterate
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whose goddamn eyeball is in Jack's amulet?
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>>151517372
WTF that's way too much damage... TRS please rebalance hunters NOW.
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>>151517427
>Shilling Blizzard this hard
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>>151517372
yea whatever, but this monster can't eat very fast or increase its damage with poison claws!
checkm8, m8
you see its perfectly balanced
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did they fucking ruin the monster preference trick in coop? fucking asshole devs FIX ACTUAL PROBLEMS YOU SHITS AND FUCKING SHOVE YOUR CATACLYSM MAP IN YOUR ASS nobody likes that shit
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>playing goliath
>absolute destroy cunts
>stage 2
>trapper domes me when he's alone
>stealth pounce
>annihilated
>proceed to destroy rest of team
>post game lobby
>"yeah seems legit lol.... hacker...."
>mfw

So I lost a bar of health, has TRS noticed this bug yet or?
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This place makes me not feel guilty about 40 game winstreaks as monster
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>skip map button doesn't work
"Fuck you and your game".
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>>151516245
Sure make the join link
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>>151517761
>sh-shill! shill!!!!!!

Fuck off back to /v/ where you belong you moutbreather
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>>151518601
you make your mom not feel guilty after her 40 men streak
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>>151518907
Add some more stuttering. It'll make up for your lack of an argument.
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>>151504963
>mdw tara
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>>151516245
>>151518896
no link?
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>>151518896
really makes you link
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>>151518896
Some people invited me so I left the chat.
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>>151519394
>cites my lack of argument
>when he's the first one to use a meme phrase in place of any arguments himself

Sad!
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>>151519394
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>>151509310
>Why don't people try to communicate with walls, I am sure they hold the answers to the universe, have you tried talking to them in a constructive manner?
Thats you.
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>on friend loves torvald, EMET, and Laz
>the other loves kala
>third guy is slim only
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>>151522780
Sounds like a winning combination :^)
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I'm thinking
whatever/silver switch/reload on jack.
Yes?
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>>151523507
Weapon swap and double capacity is all that you shoule run. It has a chance of being able to stop a movement ability as well as a traversal before it runs out.
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>>151523507
first swap is the best you can get on bronze
then reload/capacity or capacity/reload
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>>151522780
Torvald is fun at least.

I don't get Kala though. Her teleporters are useful but extremely situational, and her armor drain is fucking garbage. Like I guess it's cool you can just start eating at his hp, but then his armor will come back and you'll have done less damage to his HP overall. Unless of course he is utter shit or he trashes your team. If he sucks then you'll slowly trickle him down till he's stage 3 with 1 bar of health and then you cheese a win, or if he's really good you're going down in the dome extremely fast but the armor drain lets you get at least some damage on him.
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>see laz
>pick lennox for free xp
>end up winning in record time
Poor bob. We domed him in a cave, too.
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>>151398825
Do these stupid jetpack perks stack at all?
I used all three of them last match which would have put at like 50% efficent whatever ++ but it still drains and recharges like ass.
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>>151524465
diminishing return on all hunter perks afaik

first perk operates with 100% power
second perk with same stats only at 30%
third 10%

this rule does not apply for monster perks of course
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>>151524120
Kala can squeeze those stage 3 wins though when the monsters gets away or tries to get away and replenish armor with minimal HP left

just spam a few mines around his path and switch to the armor drain beam and whammo and this is what she can do solo and with an assault on their ass it's a quick death for the monster if it tries to cheese
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>>151525401
This is a joke right
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>>151525401
what?
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>>151525401
Well that's dumb.
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>>151525401
got PROOFs?
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>>151525401
Bollocks.
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>>151525401
>giving RTS ideas for the next """""""balance""""""""" patch

absolute madman
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>coop match ended in 3:05
>but the monster got to stage 2 somehow and was caught with its pants down
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>>151518907
mongoloid
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>>151527389
AI is strange sometimes
one time it waited for us at the dropship landing, another time it went fast s2 than moster monster player I've ever seen. it still got its ass kicked because the AI does terrible mistakes that should be fixed
>it never focus one player, it jumps between them
>it stops to kill wildlife after dome, even turning around and comming back through the hunter team if it spots something to kill
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>Torvald (fucking again)
>Griffin
>Caira
>Kala
vs
>Kraken

its even more pubstomp week
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>>151529450
guess I'll be practically maining assault again quite ebin
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>>151529450
I'm grinding coop right now
feels good not to be bothered by this shit anymore
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https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/why-co-op-is-better-than-hunt/98379/18

>Quickplay: 53%
>Co-op: 19%
>Solo: 16% (training, solo, try-before-you-buy, etc)
>Customs: 11%
>Ranked: 2%

>THAT'S OVER 100%! ...because of rounding :)

enjoy your dead hackerfest mode, rankedfags!
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>>151530470
if coop had all monsters and a little bit better AI it would be enough to kill hunt
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>Play against monster who isn't very good or isn't playing seriously.
>we win
>our torvald start gloating with ez EZ
>asking why he is gloating so hard
>ahhaha your tears are delicious to me, only makes me cock hard hahaha

Fucking idiot doesn't even realize I was on his team, what the hell is up with these people.
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>>151530965
I feel like I've read this post before. Is this /evog/ pasta?
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>>151530965
won the first time with Neverwinvald
let him his moment, anon
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So Wraith is female and Kraken is male
Does that mean Kala is turning into a monster futa
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>>151532835
oh boy
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>>151532835
oh man
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>>151532835
Oh geeze, Rick.
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>New rotation

Torbad
>Primary damage source is mortars
>Mortars can only hit the monster when its either an actual retard or Bob
>Mortar Cannon has a distinguishable firing sound so the monster knows just to keep moving and it won't get hit

Kala
>Armor Reducer functions contrary to Stage 2's dome mechanic and only makes the dome go down faster
>Teleport Pads are as fragile as every other deployable

I'm not surprised anymore that they're actively trying to kill their game a second time.
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>>151532835
dude... I want to see that
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>>151532835
How shocking.
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Why is Kala so fucking popular with new players!?
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>>151534805
she requires very minimal aiming skills to hit something

TP IS SO KEWL

isn't she in free rotation right now?
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>>151534805
Because
>>151532835
>>
>medic picks laz
>goes down in 10 seconds at stage 1 fight

everytime
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picking torbad even against the AI monster is awful just because it's a retarded sperg and it never even focuses anyone down and when it's running it stops when it feels like it and once you switch to mortar to shoot it then it decides to jump 50 meters away at the perfect moment and when you try to predict it's usual escape path it then picks the other one it rarely takes
easier and more reliable to just use the nade every 3 shotgun reloads or so and spam the shotty

god I fucking hate the easy but so incredibly retarded sperg AI and fucking torbad
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>>151538685
Yeah that happened to me yesterday in a match when the monster disconnected right away, when we got the AI down to 50 percent health it basically stopped attacking and did nothing but run for the entire duration of the domes.
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>>151538685
monster ai is dumb but omnipotent. It uses the same ai as harpoon and instantly knows when it has been harpooned and it instantly knows where mortars are going to land once they've been fired and will immediately jump.
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it really is true that Sunny is some kind of IQ tester

all you need to do is boost someone and see what they do most of the time
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>>151542117
>boost assault
>keeps on running slowly
>uses minigun constantly and not the flamethrower even when there are no characters in play that can create weakspots on the monster
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>>151542117
>outside dome
>65% of the time it's nothing
>25% of the time they don't dash and just fly upward
>5% of the time they actually use it to effect

>inside dome
>50% of the time they waste the whole thing in one go
>40% of the time they don't use it at all, either letting the monster beat on them or not getting in an optimal position
>5% of the time they use it to effect, without being aware of it
>2.5% of the time they use it to effect and figure it out
>2.5% of the time they use it to effect and know what they're doing

this is my experience thus far.
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>>151543257
>50% of the time they waste the whole thing in one go
I don't play Sunny, so I'm not sure what is the optimal way of using it. Outside of the dome I always boost forwards when I'm boosted, getting as far ahead with it as I can.

Inside the dome I generally only get boosted when I'm focused, and I usually do something like boost away and try to fly up a cliff.

What's the best way to utilize it though?
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>>151545568
like you said, it's highly dependant on the situation. for outside the dome try to just use one or two boosts, you want to leave some for the rest of your team and not get caught out of position. for inside the dome try to use single boosts at a time, avoid wasting it on floating unless you think that's the better option.
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>Stopped playing monster much after early levels
>Decide to try a few games
>Get matched up against Wardoom and his crew

Th-thanks game
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>>151547974
trello roadmap says they are working on a better matchmaking, but its one of the last things they do. TRS should get their priorities right, because many new people dont bother anymore after getting fucked by the top1%
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>>151548495
>many new people dont bother anymore after getting fucked by the top1%

Yeah if the average monster gets rekt as hard as I just did I'm not surprised. I can't imagine what it was like playing against these guys before all the monster buffs and hunter nerfs too.
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dont die on me you stupid ded general
>>
hello darkness my old friend
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I'm just here until Behemoth returns
And I guess I want to see what 100% kills the game
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What do I even play to give my team the best chance of killing an average Kraken player? Every time I play a role other than assault it feels like no damage is happening, and whenever I play assault it feels like there's no heals, no shields and not much of anything. How to carry?
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>>151553767
Bucket is a pretty good balance isn't he?

You can shield, double shield, and sync up for double heal bursts. Plus sentries do insane damage when left ignored.
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>>151553925
chain lightning still destroys them they never fixed it
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>>151553438
All I want is to see Behemoth's adaptation.

Elder Kraken got a better model treatment than Moliath. I can only imagine what they can do to the most gorgeous monster design.
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>>151553767
crow markov hank laz. Hank runs tinkerbell. Laz runs health regen. Crow plinks away with charged shots while markov works on the armor, once a bar and a half of health is taken crow switches to uncharged shots to finish off whatever little armor remains and everyone goes full damage on kraken while Laz prioritizes banshee mines.
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>>151554735
they give it some futuristic rings and a stupid helmet with a visor, because nobody told the variation-designer how fucking shit eGriff and qAira are
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>>151555067
This comp is literally only good against kraken, it will not work against any other monster due to how krakens burst damage and targeting works. It also requires that your crow be on point for headshots and be reliable in maximizing stasis time. Having that 1.5 bars of health damage before support is incapped is absolutely critical to the comp
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tell me how to fucking beat a ESL monster assuming you're stuck with random pug hunters
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>>151554180
Chain lightning? You mean Aftershock? If the Kraken is using Aftershock, you shouldn't lose. If the Kraken is an Elder Kraken, which you did not specify, then you should also not have a problem because Elder Kraken is not nearly as fucked as Kraken.
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>>151556053
cheat. because that's literally the only way to win against good monster players after all the hunter nerfs and monster buffs. Assuming you're playing pubs of course.
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>>151556053
You can't unless they are fucking around. I'm not an ESL monster but pretty good and all it takes is one weak link on your team and you're fucked. You can have an all star 3 player queue and one weak player would make you lose. Start befriending people who you can tell are good after a match and soon you'll have a roster of good players to queue up with.
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>>151556079
Chain lightning is the Elder Kraken's 'Aftershock'. Also pubs lose to OG Kraken aftershock build all the time.
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>>151535083
Cabot is free right now.
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Holy fuck, has anyone seen the new tunnel vision bug?
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>>151560614
They have finally nerfed the Kraken.
https://www.TEEwitch.tv/silikone/v/83284207
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>>151562232
>my eyes
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monsters fuck off
t. hunters
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hunters fucking leave shear
t. monsters
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>>151565867
>>151566484
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>>151565867
>>151566484
cant we just get along?
lets write TRS that we would like to have a comfy game like Mario Party with monster and every hunter but Kala. Kala is a party pooper
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>>151567094
no
i cannot into peace with monsters
fuck monsters
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>>151567094
all hunters most be killed and eaten
no peace
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>>151567094
Hey anon, we think that's a great idea! But hunters in Mario Party are far too powerful compared to the monster (the monster always loses!), so we've decided to base our new installment on pic related.
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you like Renegade Abe?
I think he looks good, especially after Quaira and Egriff.
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>>151568775
Its okay
I'm scared to see what'll happen to his kit though
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>>151569703
>shotgun does less dmg
>stasis granade have half the radius but do dmg now
>dart gun is now a poison gun
it can only get worse
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>>151568775
>>151569703
>>151569857

you guys realize he's going to be an assault right?
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>>151570432
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>>151570835
Parnell is going to be a medic and and is going to be an assault. This matches with the trello board and the secret image they released on Qaira's page that has parnell with a medgun.
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>>151570942
>parnell with a medgun
Parnell is a good boy, but some things I dont want to test out
and wouldn't it be strange when assault-Parnell is in the same team as medic-Parnell
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>>151570942
err, and Abe. Man it's a bad idea to be posting after work. Trello board has a unannounced medic and assault being "Completed"
Lazaras's adaption will probably be a support so they can make him actually good and "non toxic"
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>>151570942
That's too drastic of a change to be believable. Remaking the characters as a different class would require a shitton of effort, and all of TRS's work on stage 2 shows that they're really not capable of something like that. They'd also have to go back and redo a lot of the characters' lines to fit their new role. Considering they didn't even give Quantum Caira new lines when they had the chance, I can't imagine it'll be anything more than a slightly altered kit
>>
>How low can this player peak go
>They haven't realized making the game a chore for 4 people and easy fun for 1 person doesn't work
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>>151570942
Pretty sure Parnell with a medgun is a reference to one of their stage two trailers where griffin is surprised that everyone can dome
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>>151572603
>number four is better/higher than one
how could they fuck up so hard?
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>>151572603
solution is easy
favor hunters, but compensate monster with many keys
even when monster start crying, at least four other people wont
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>>151571672
Qcaira got additional lines because the VA is an inhouse employee. They've already confirmed that adaptions exist in some sort of parallel universe type shit where none of the other characters will acknowledge them (barring certain VA's that are inhouse who they can drag down whenever they want for pretty much no fee) and that they will not have unique dialog lines (barring specific VA's at mentioned above)

also remaking the characters for a different class is easy. for abe they'd add some sort of DoT effect to all his weapons, change his tracking dart to a 6-shooter, slow grenades to napalm field grenades, and his tracker to DR.

They've also shown with Qaira that they WILL be doing UNIQUE class abilities for some characters. So it's not too far off to think they'd move some variations to other classes.
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what happened to all the old content from stage 1?
defend mode? nest mode? a few maps, the single player campaign, the cutscenes, where is it?
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>>151572603
I completely can't play this with friends. The Hunter skill requirement is too high and I just lose 10/10 matches if I try to have any fun whatsoever with people I know. This is why the playerbase is completely gone and dropping like a rock.

My friends are all level 30-40, but they legitimately don't play well for a single second of the entire match. They don't have any idea of where to position, they flail around wasting boost when targeted and stay on the ground, and they do low damage if they're Assault.

This game is genuinely hopeless.
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>>151574918
All gone. No guarantee that any of it will come back
You'd think bringing all that back would be a priority and not shitting on the current maps
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>searching, get a twitchfag who i can only assume is a monster main preferring monster and some other loser who prefers monster
>matches fail to form 3 times
>finally get one and twitchfag is on cabot
>monster is goliath, same guy kraken in previous game
>he quits after getting to half hp on wraith trap
>twitchfag "did... he... just.... LOL"
>"shut up twitch cancer"
>salty LOL!!!!

alright then
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>>151576315
Did you expect anything more from this community?
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>>151579235
It's really amazing how terrible it has become. Monster mains are fucking assholes, and then there's just loads of people who say stupid "GG EZ" shit when it's a new monster or new hunter. Why be such a colossal dick when this game can't afford to cultivate that kind of behavior?
>>
Least we're a little over halfway to the Old Man Hyde skin
http://www.evolveupdates.com/cataclysm/
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>>151580694
>more hunter wins than monster wins
Nani!?!
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>>151580694
Not unless TRS decides to cut out all the solo/coop queue wins near the end like you know they will.
Can't have hunters winning at anything, now can we? :^)
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>>151580904
Co-op wins against the AI count to it as well.
But I guran-fucking-tee TRS will somehow spin this into an excuse to nerf hunters more.
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>>151581082
I honestly believe they outright lack the ability to do so.
The entire reason the solo/co-op matches count might be because they can't code their counter to only register pvp games.
>>
I'm curious if they keep nerfing hunters, will pub players begin creating smurf accounts so that they can cheat numbers back to what they were before the months of nerfs.

>>151581283
all matches count, even custom games. The system works by detecting all players who were online during a time period and successful finished a round. You don't even have to contribute to the goal, you simply need to have played a single match while connected to the internet.
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>>151581438
Wow, it's even lazier than I thought.
>>
>this weeks rotation
>kraken
>torvald

what are RTS trying to do, figre out if the "leave game" button works?
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>>151580694
The aforementioned Old Man Hyde skin. Plus the monster reward
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why won't the game start? It keeps finding 4 other players but it refuses to advance
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>>151586958
Getting the same thing
>>
RE: Cataclysm battle for the hyde skin and if co-op victories count

don't believe they do
it's not like we need any help on the hunter side anyway

I've heard they do
Which to me explains why there's a 15k difference in the hunters favour


Doesn't matter how many balance changes they do
Hunters will still be favored
>>
>>151581095
>Co-op wins against the AI count to it as well.

Not true, I said this in a streamer's chat the other week and two different devs told me those wins get thrown out.
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>>151589618
then this is the very first weekend event in the history of evolve to do that. Because Evacuation counted. Solo counted. Custom games counted. there is no reason why versus ai would be excluded if custom games counted.
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>>151582545
goliath skin looks like it's a lot like the reverse of the savage skin
>>
>tfw no wraith wife to cook me hunters for dinner
>>
ded bred
ded gam
>>
>bitching about dev
>bitching about certain match
>hate this
>hate that
>keeps playing anyway
>>
>>151595284
The game has potential but is being strangled to death by its devs
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>>151596512
yes we all know that
every week the grip tightens
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>>151595284
But I haven't played for 4 days now anon
>>
I wish there was a way to turn off the chat, too.
>>
>>151596915
I wish there was an actual chat
>>
>>151596665
why are you here? thread so good and the bantz are so great?
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>>151595284
Game loses 1000-1500 players per 30 hours, if you don't play now you will not have another chance anymore.

>>151596609
>every week the grip tightens
unf
I'd like that grip on my penis
>>
>>151419951
sauce?
>>
don't you die on me
>>
>>151600594
The Lazarus Device is charged
>>
this died quickly

rip in peace
>>
>>151604225
It's okay, it's all part of the plan
>>
>>151606748
Was killing your game before monetizing it part of the plan?
>>
>>151607532
OF COURSHE
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>>151608190
WELL YOU GOT YOURSELF DED
WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP IN YOUR MASTER PLAN?
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>>151600820
How many times do I have to tell you Laz?
You can't revive corpses that are eaten by the monster players.
>>
When the fuck is bob coming out. I don't want to spend 2bucks getting him.
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>>151609436
Holy shit really? What the fuck is Laz even for, if eating a corpse takes 12 nanoseconds and is basically a death sentance even more than just having Laz on the team?
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>4 man premade, all prefer monster
>gee shock and awe I end up monster yet again
>fuck it, time for Bob
>corner me in a tiny cave
>foolishly follow me in
>wall, shockwave, rollout
>'monsters win'
>"holy shit, when are they buffing hunters this is fucking ridiculous"
God damnit do I love bob. One of them was even that asshole who posts his twitch url as his username.
>>
>>151609436
According to the wiki the decay delay is just reduced.
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>>151610128
>According to the wiki the decay delay is just reduced.
If he takes a BITE
IF the monster eats it, all that is left is BONES and you can't revive that.

The monster player literally has counterplay vs laz at every step of the way.

>>151609613
Yes really.
>What the fuck is Laz even for
Pissing off the player base and rubbing it in their face just how much you hate them as devs.
>>
The quality of the games is only gettin better than all like to leave the noobs, so I do not think it's bad. A little more time and we can finally play a real game, I think the ppl who want to play with things and learned to get used to things. This free time who do not want to learn, and just bump monster player group, you can leave made
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>>151612527
>this post
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Johnny Bravo hunter when?
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>its the 'Kala is actually useful' episode
>its also a 'Torbad vs Kraken' episode
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Hunter roles with most carry potential?
I feel it goes like:
Medic > Support > Trapper > Assault
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>>151525401
I put this to the test with damage perks on Hyde. Hyde is a good example of how damage perks scale differently across 3 different damage types: DOT, bullet, and single hit damage. This is based on wildlife, but they take the same damage as a monster without damage reduction:

>Flamethrower

No perks: 32

Bronze: 33

Silver: 34

Gold: 35

Bronze and silver: 35

Bronze and gold: 36

Silver and gold: 36

Bronze/silver/gold: 37

>Minigun

No perks: 18

Bronze: 19

Silver: 19

Gold: 19

Bronze and silver: 19

Bronze and gold: 20

Silver and gold: 20

Bronze/Silver/Gold: 21

>Toxic Grenade

No perks: 111

Bronze: 114

Silver: 117

Gold: 120

Bronze and silver: 120

Bronze and gold: 123

Silver and gold: 125

Bronze/Silver/Gold: 129

I'm not a nerd and I don't want to test any other perks, so could someone tell me if these numbers look right?
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>>151615790
Assault or Support
It doesnt matter how hard you carry if all 3 others are retards tho
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why did we as hunters suddenly just die? same happened to enemy monster one game. other hunters found him and that monster died really fucking fast.
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>>151616968
hacks
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>>151615791
numbers for the flamethrower are correct however you're missing the fractional increases which means it's accurate to within .9 units of damage. Unsure about minigun and toxic, I never did any actual hard research into it. there is no diminishing returns though. this has been checked with health regen, efficiency, recharge and reload speed.

Cannot be verified with capacity due to some special lines of code TRS has with capacity that causes certain weapons to round up or down while other weapons don't round at all. very inconsistent.
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>>151615791
damage perks are 3/5/8%, so using your toxin nade for numbers, they all match up. And the numbers follow normal rounding rules, which is why silver by itself gives +6 damage, because 5% of 111 5.55
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>>151617092
well that's fucking nice. this game will be deader than dead soon.
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>>151615791
so what you're trying to say is it's best if you skip damage perks and go for shit like capacity and rocket on assault?
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>>151615791
damage perks are clearly not worth it anymore

nice how TRS made them useless
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Ayy guys
started the game a few days ago...
passable hunter but I really suck when playing a monster

any general strategies? tips, advices?
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>>151618362
stack DR, button mash
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>>151618362
monster is incredibly easy against everything but good premades
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>>151618753
DR?
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>>151618753
Isn't cooldown most effective thing? If it actually works by decreasing cooldowns and not increasing recharge speed (like it goes FOR HUNTERS), then 2 maxed ability cooldown perks increase monster dps by 50% or close to that. Assuming he spams them as fast as possible and doesn't attack.
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>>151618362
Focus a single hunter in dome fights, best if its a medic or support
Remember that if the terrain isnt to your advantage you can simply run to another part of the dome
Dont stay around after dome goes down unless you are just a little bit of damage from downing a hunter or there is only one or two wounded hunters alive left and dropship is a long time away
When you regained armor dont be afraid to do hit and runs on lone hunters to get free strikes during dome recharge
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>>151619025
damage reduction is technically more efficient due to how math works. you have longer engage time with damage reduction allowing for more time for your abilities to cooldown. I believe that it comes out to being ~13% more efficient to run DR than ability cooldown.
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>>151619196
Wouldn't greater difference in monster DPS and medic/support HPS be more important? No point in fighting if you're not making strikes.
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>>151619361
If there's no dome and you're ful on armor you can easily down someone if it's not the whole hunter group, while taking minimal damage and having time to escape
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>>151618989
damage reduction
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Why will anyone want to bang Wraith? She's gonna crush you to death with her weight.
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>>151619196
this is the autistic mathfag way to look at things (the wrong way)

reminds of TRS telemetry faggotry that is very much detached from actual reality
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>>151620140
death by SNU SNU is the most glorious end
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>>151619361
normally i'd say yeah, but with all the hunter nerfs and monster buffs, all you need to do is focus the support (unless the medic is laz in which case he is priority) since supports can't do shit to keep themselves alive anymore (except kala) and all of the trapper Cc has been nerfed to being shit compared to what it used to be

Hunters no longer have a reliable way to peel the monster off the support and monsters now deal enough damage that they can easily focus through the (now nerfed to being pretty bad) support shield burst and the medics (every medic except emet has had their sustained healing significantly weakened) sustained healing.

Beforehand trapper cc like harpoons and repulsor were amazing at buying time for supports and medics to mend their wounds and get a good position when they were being focused. Supports had a cloak to protect themselves and others from being focused for the duration of every dome.
Now there's literally nothing you can do to avoid being focused except running the tinkerbell perk set and spending all that time in the air.
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>>151619361
Exactly my thoughts. Never understood running DR over at least 1 CDR.
>>151619697
What do you mean? If you're full on armor the difference between taking 3 instead of 2 armor bars (not even factoring in the faster kill speed with other perks) doesn't seem like a big deal
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>>151620507
after the next patch or the patch after that, "tinkerbell" will be nerfed to shit as well

and that will be the final killing blow to the game
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>>151620507
>be griffin
>harpoon monster
>breaks it in 0.76 seconds
>reload 3 seconds
>harpoon monster
>breaks it in 0.57 seconds

god damn
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>>151620591
full damage reduction give you 53%? more health AND armor. or was it 63%? I can't remember anymore, all I know is that it's a lot. Also having higher damage reduction means that your passive armor regen, channeling regen AND armor gained by eating also becomes equally more effective.

>>151620897
3s? you mean 4.5s which I believe is the new harpoon reload time for griffin. They've added 1.5s of reload since the launch of stage 2.
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>>151620507
Eh, I'm not saying it's required, just talking about efficiency. Though I'm still noob enough at monster that every match has me shaking a bit.
>>151620989
Become one with Parnell and swap Harpoon everytime instead of reloading.
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>>151620812
tinkerbell is ridiculously overpowered, can't tell you how many times i've rage quitted because hunters fly around like there is no tomorrow, that's why it gets used by most hunters. other perks are not viable because of how op this is, giving it a nerf across the board will help diversify perk choices. in the end it's a buff for hunters
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>>151621154
>nerf perks that makes the monster autist rage and lose because he sucks even after being given that can keep hunters more or less glued to the ground
>i-i-it's better for hunters, a buff even!

christ I hate monsterfags
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>>151621154
I hope you're being ironic, because right now everything but jetpack/move speed/swap speed just feels underwhelming. Not sure about poison rounds.
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>>151621154
you mean everyone is now running tinkerbell because of the nerfs to all other good hunter perks right? Reload speed went from 34% to 27%(+/- 1) capacity went from 40% to something like 35/36, swap speed lost 13%, Afterburners lost like 5 or 6%.
Damage reduction went from like 20% to 15%, damage increase is down to something like 12% from 20%
poison bullets has lost like 33% of its damage, however in their defense of this specific change they've also reduced monster poison damage perks by a roughly equal amount.

what the fuck is left to use? Tinkerbell, health regen, jetpack recharge (which was 75% in legacy and is now like 60 or 65% in stage 2)
Infravision and class ability cooldown recharge.
The fuck we supposed to do? Ability cooldown is pretty fucking great on a couple of hunters, but I expect that to be nerfed too.

That leaves the choices of Tinkerbell, full health regen (complete fucking garbage unless you have a hank) or ability cooldown (which is trash on over 50% of the cast.
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>>151620812
god forbid hunters use tactics based on perks they choose!
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can't wait till they give tink a good spanking
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>>151621457
>Not sure about poison round
poison rounds got nerfed and it was shit before because how the mechanics work
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even if the hunters just stood there and took a beating, monter autists would find something to cry about
like how the hunter took 5 hits instead of 3 to die

HUNTERS OP PLS NERF
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>>151620989
It's 53% with full DR (49.5% with minor brawler) which yea, that sounds like a lot and would probably make pubstomping more brainless but against good hunters I would rather be able to down quicker. Also kinda depends on the hunter team, if they're running Cabot comp being able to last longer will be key but it's gonna be hard to bust through a Hank Val team without dps from perks.
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>>151622157
how about nerfing instant heal bursts? give it a wind-up time that can be broken by taking damage
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>>151621154
Tinker bell is used so much because the rocket perks are the only perks that have as large of an impact as monster perks.
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>>151622157
Lazarus totally needs further nerfs
Actually what does he need heal burst for? He isnt supposed to heal, right? Just revive.
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>>151622180
val has 120hps, healburst of 303 every 15 or 20 seconds. Hanks self shield is down from 700 to about 580 with a 30% longer cooldown than other supports. one goliath rock will take down his shield and bleed into his health. One leap smash will chunk 28% of his heal fire breath is another 33% and charge is another 28%. Even if val is healing this entire time, he'll be dead in your next cycle of attacks.

If we were talking stage 1 hunters then yeah, you'd absolutely be right. However we're talking about horribly watered down stage 2 hunters and stimmed up stage 2 monsters.
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>>151622603
>medic with a sniper rifle
common, I cant be the only one who thinks its stupid. next patch should replace it with a scalpel. yea sure, he wont hurt anymore, but he can still revive people and that balances it out
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what the fuck is the tinkerbell build?
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>>151622961
the 3 rocket perks
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is it possible to beat moliath?
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>>151623379
no he has a 100% winrate at all levels
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>>151623234
im sure they dont stack additively, wouldnt it be better to do fly eff/recharge/rocket king?
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>>151622961
hunter who take jetpack perks and stay in the air for some more seconds (monster shitter will tell you forever)
its a fun way to fuck with first time monster player who are forced to play, everyone else dont give a fuck really
Goliaths smack you back to ground, roast you midair or throw a rock you can't dodge
Kraken don't have any problems either
Wraiths abduct/bomb you midair
Bobs tonguegrab you and sometimes their abilites hit you for some reason, not sure if bug
Gorgons have an easy time smacking you mitdair or shitting a net in your face and force you down with no fuel left

monster are just mad they can't hit hunter 100% of the time
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>>151623476
double efficiency and rocketking is the tinkerbell setup. and yes they stack additively.
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>>151623506
I imagine it being a larger problem for some monsters than others. I play gorgon and nearly every move I have fucks with it, except for spider trap. It's not really a problem for me.
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>>151625782
that's just fucking gross m8

delete it
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>>151625870
What is it, won't load for me
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>>151626007
a pornstar named tinkerbell getting fucked
its horrible cropped, though
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>>151626007
tinkerbell getting stuffed
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>>151626007
a gross tattooed 3DPD skank being plowed
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>>151626729
it's cropped for a reason, this is a blue board
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Reminder that 1 won match for hunters counts as 4 wins for each individual player and that is on TOP of co op games counting where people farm stationary AI monsters.
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>>151629503
TRS will spin this as HUNTERS OP PLS NERF and make it impossible to win pub matches and the 200 monster autists left playing the game will be happy
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>>151629503
Is that first part true? That's the first time I've heard that.
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>>151629503
Let's take a moment to consider that monsters would still have as many wins as they have now if hunter victories counted only as 1 win for an entire team of 4 hunters.

More than anything I believe that hunter scoring works as it does now because TRS wants people to believe that hunters are balanced.
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I want to stick my dick in wraith's asshole if you know what I mean
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>team mate picks tech Hank
Yeah I didn't want to win either
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>>151632996
tech hank is good tho
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>>151633262
Playing with brand new players sure.
Against anyone higher than level 20 you're literally dead weight in a dome.
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>>151633467
>t. level 21 superpro
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>>151633835
He's not wrong. His shield burst is ass and while he can put a shield on everyone that only works for the first 10 seconds of a dome, after which he's only good for his orbital drill. The only support that's worse is kala, and that's because someone is going to be retarded and make her teleporters worthless
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>>151506584
Fuck off
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>>151634538
>t. level 22 superpro
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if you don't vote to skip the cataclysm map, you need to kill yourself
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>>151636389
>not dodging it

I don't dodge ANYTHING normally but fuck that meteor shit
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>>151637223
first you vote
if someone doesn't vote you tell them to kill themselves
then you dodge
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>'You should have evolved into something that doesn't suck!'
>Abe to a stage 3 Kraken
Why is Abe such a boss
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>cabot dcs 10 seconds in
>can't take over
>bot is stuck in a spot whole game
>wraith monster doesn't just end it right there and drags out the game for no reason

fuck having fun ya
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>>151637982
funny, he said the same thing to Kala
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futa kala art when
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Why is Kala such a self-centered whiny bitch
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>>151640890
they had to fill the quota and make a character a feminist could enjoy
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>>151641184
love the Kala-Crow conversation

>hey Crow
>hm?
>am I, I mean, what do you think
>think what?
>ah. nevermind
>ok.
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>>151641423
I like the slim one where she tries to fish for sympathy from him and he tells her to fuck off
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>>151641423
All the Crow onversations are lovable
He is a lovable guy
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>>151642565
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>hgl tourney chat
>everyone crying about how slim is op

THIS IS WHAT TRS ACTUALLY BELIEVES
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>>151644121
>oh hey an evolve tourny
>its just the monster getting rekt over and over again

TRS should just give up on this, I can't even imagine the nerfs that are coming to Slim, Maggie, and Hank after that 1v3 fight
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>>151644121
>>151644934
>More slim nerfs incoming
Stop, he's already dead
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>>151490496
>No vertical capability

What is Abduct and Warp Blast, not to mention her traversals can go any which way.

And my ass is she weak, maybe it's because the games I've played against her my teammates can't dodge to save their lives, but I can't outheal her stage 1 damage as Val when popping healing fields off cooldown.

MGoliath is still better though
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>>151642565
>your friendship will never convince Crow to come back to civilization with you
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>>151644121
>1%-hunter hit every maggot and press 4 the micro-second its available
>Slim will get nerfed so the 99% rest can't use him
TRS, I hope you're reading this. DONT TOUCH HIM! REEEE
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>>151517372
Played against a Goliath the other day with max DR and he got the damage resistance armadon perk. My rockets did 59 damage, I was a sad assault for the entire game.
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>>151645912
I hope they don't to be honest.
If they continue nerfing shit at some point the game will be a handful of viable hunters and a bunch of meme picks.

Slim's kinda fun to play as far as medics go but if they make him shit there's no point. Last nerf was already a bit too much.
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also to those anon(s) that said co-op didn't count
https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/t/cataclysm-weekend-community-challenge/97907/50
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>>151646524
perfectly balanced. keep in mind this way he couldn't use the 10% dmg albino perk or poison albino perk
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>>151646524
doesn't stack yo. Wildlife buffs do not stack with perks. Whichever the highest buff is will be applied.
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>slim/hank team
>goliath gets first strike on the assault

absolute madman
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the cataclysm experience
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>>151644934
monster winning hard right now
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>>151646716
absolute madmen
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How do you view people's levels? I thought they were all hidden now, but I still keep hearing people say "look at his level" for whatever reason.
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>>151647991
>nice a new map
>nah, not really new
>fps go down
>random shit makes hunt longer than it should be
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What perks for Abe? I've been stacking max movement speed for a while and it works pretty well for the tracking bit but I'm wondering if things like jetpack perks wouldn't be overall better.
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>>151647991

>y'know what this game with totally fucked balance needs? A RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR
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I have Goliath, Moliath, Kraken, Markov, Hyde, Parnell, Griffin, Abe, Crow, Val, Laz, Caira, Hank, T.Hank and Bucket unlocked and 32k keys to spare
What should I buy
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>>151648317
swap/reload/something jetpack related
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>>151648317
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>>151648317
in my imo trappers are the least dependent on perks, so i mostly just stack the jetpack ones since nothing else really would benefit more over just being able to survive better

trappers dont dps
trappers dont really need faster reloads
trappers dont need faster class cd, thats a waste
so jetpacks
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>>151648515
Lennox, Jack, Slim, Emet, Sunny, Gorgon
Buy 1 or two of those and get a shitton of perks
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>>151648710
>trappers dont dps

t. not Abe
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>>151648978
you're doing it wrong if you stack force perks and exclusively only use the shotgun
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>>151648006
>monster winning hard right now
PURE SKILL BABY
>hunters win some games
OMG HUNTERS ARE OP, WE NEED TO NERF THEM SOME MORE, OH AND DON'T FORGET THE MONSTER BUFFS

Love these devs
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>>151649090
naw, I stack jetpack and always run with the dart gun out when not in dome
Abe still does proper dps
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>>151641423
poor kala. sees jack hitting on all girls, but ignores her
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>>151641423
>#WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU?! YOU HAVE SNAKES UNDER THAT HOOD?!
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>cant buy perks from the store window
>characters arent in any way sorted either for that matter
Who designed this shit
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>>151649918
turtle rock studios
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>>151649918
I dont know but its full with bad decisions

>even you are naturally alone as monster, you have to type /all
what do devs think I want talk to, when I press enter as monster?
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>>151650229
>there is no chat window
>if you didnt pay attention in the 3 seconds the text shows on screen you cant even check what it was
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>>151650229
You could use it to write down buffs or something... if there was a chat log
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>>151648515

Gorgon, Slim
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>>151648835
got Sunny, Lennox, Gorgon and Slim
what gold perks do I go for, have lvl 3 rocket king and movement speed for hunters and lvl 2 DR for monsters
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>>151651113
and considering Slim*
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does every monster run damage reduction? where the fuck are the nerfs
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>>151651437
not every, but its perfect for Bobs and Goliaths because they have a fuckton to behin with and make the most out of it
"squishy" monsters should go for CR
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>monster won again
but hey, a monster needs to win 4 times to equal the statistics for every hunters win
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>>151651113
feeding speed or cooldown reduction works for most monsters
item swap's good for almost every hunter, everything else is pretty situational. Class skill reduction and capacity work well enough for most of the characters you have
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>monster won again
where does this "good hunter win 99% of a time" meme come from?
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>monsters getting wins

So do you think they'll nerf the Goliaths or just buff every other monster
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>>151653061
By the way, if I use reload perks, will it lower the CD on Parnell's super soldier ?
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>>151655292
>>151655389
what are you guys talking about
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>>151656921
yes
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>garbage hunter team
>stomp them because they get easily singled out
>"that was sooooooooo fun broken game"

I wish really awful people weren't allowed to speak, I'm not even good myself
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sourcetv confirms slim 'pretty OP'
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>>151657174
Evolve HGL Far Arm League Tourney
lets watch the stream together, its better than playing
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>>151657264
*when backed up Hank, Goliath getting dickblocked by the best Jack player known so far and Parnell intercepting rocks with his handsome face

truely very OP
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Is it just goliaths so far? What's do the hunter comps typically run?
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>>151657702
I'm pretty sure goliaths are all that have won so far
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>>151657408
and where would we watch this?
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>>151657702
right now its eKraken
Slim and Hank are used every time
assault varies between Parnell and Hyde
and trapper is Abe most of the time
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>>151657264
Wew, that faggot is really is really pushing either for a Slim nerf or a Hank nerf.
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>>151657983
www dot twitch dot tv slash superbadjuju
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>>151658234
no live shit
no fun
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>>151658042
Time to nerf them
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>>151658507
but it is live?
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>>151658682
no it's not
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>>151658974
it is
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>>151658974
yes it is, autist
unless you're saying you want to see it from the hunter team's POV
some of them are streaming it live
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>>151659296
no it's not
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>>151658974
it is
hover your pony mouse icon over the screen, the red-dot-LIVE icon will show up
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>>151655292
1 won game for hunters counts as 4 wins for hunters
1 won game for monster counts as 1 win for monster
Devs look at the statistics and say WELL the hunters are winning too much, we should nerf them.
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>>151659457
no it's not
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>>151659413
>being this retarded
WEW
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>cabot

let's see how this goes
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>>151660089
no I'm not
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They dun goofed. I dunno if Cabot was the right choice, Hyde hit really hard thanks to hit but Caira got to 2 strikes really quick.
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>"pro" tournament
>always the same 2 teams in finals
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>>151661736
/evog/ team when
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>>151661876
We'd just all play monsters
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>>151661876
if there was a successful /evog/ team then maybe devs would listen to us

would be too late to save the game though
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Servers ded
Thanks TRS
>>
NICE CRASHES TRS
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>game crashes during stream
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>poison crow
why? but hey, they are pros
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>Moliath in charge of not being OP
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>>151661876
Torvald, Abe, Bucket, and Val

Sentries and Abe take advantage of the the million weakpoints while Bucket keeps Val alive/Val keeps Bucket alive.

FLAWLESS
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>>151663684
3 times in a row killing the assault first and nobody can stop him
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>>151664143
Working as intended
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>>151664143
>only 3 times
Trs needs to drop the shield to 50% already, assault can tank too much
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>>151664254
yeah shield too stronk, the shield should drain health too
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>>151664415
"shield" should make you juicier. the assaults job is to take aggro from the group after all and b8ing the monster to attack only you
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>>151664602
it should give the assault a big boyish bubble butt for the monster to chew on

BUBBLE BUTT

BUBBLE BUBBLE BUTT

BUBBLE BUTT
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>>151664914
...I miss the invincibility shield
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are these "pro" teams throwing hunter side matches on purpose to get some buffs for hunters? one can only hope

they are making some really dumb position choices and trying to solo the monster like pub retards
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>>151665841
Isn't it just a community tournament?
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>>151665958
dds and ndg are the two dominant """""pro""""" teams of the game
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molly is very balanced
>>
>veracor fucked up
>blame ryke

wew nice
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>final
>kraken vs lazarus
Did gun be gud.
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>Laz + Bucket
either they win hard or get fucked hard
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>bucket laz

ITS TIME
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>le healer outside dome shittery
really?

also Crow is in, that means every lost health bar will hurt during S3
>>
giant balls kraken
>>
That was actually fun to watch
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>>151669528
I agree
close as fuck
Bucket should have run away and set up some turrets
>>
>>151669639
TRS definitely can't listen to twitch monster shitters anymore, at least when it comes to Goliath/Kraken

They should definitely focus on buffing the shit characters at this point over nerfing everybody across the board when it comes to balance.
>>
>>151398825
juju is a chill skeleton
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>>151670129
this will not happen, every hunter will just get nerfed to torvald/slim/kala tier
>>
>>151664914
fuck you now it's stuck in my head
>>
I can't wait to see the patch notes.
>>
>>151671475
it will be like this time: patchnotes will come with the patch so people can't complain and hopes are not destroyed
>>
>>151671619
The suspense is killing me.
>>
>>151671724
just expect more unnecessary nerfs to hunters and the game being ruined a bit more
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>>151671921
But how bad is it gonna be? How wild can it get? How much can they fuck this up?
I wanna know.
>>
ok just ran into some hacking fag in coop

that was a quick dropship win

I guess they just saved me some time
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so it beginns
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>>151672904
>make other nerfed hunters more viable
>by nerfing the only viable characters that stand a chance against meta monsters
>>
>>151672904
>monsters win more and more
>even in the finals
>BETTER NERF HUNTERS
>>
>caira sunny griffin markov
>meaty
>solid comp
>gonna have fun
>monster dcs before we even get down from ship and we win by default

fucking gay
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Wow......really makes u think....
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>>151674330
redditors are fucking braindead

why are you browsing it anyway?
>>
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>>151675007
For giggles.
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>>151676013
muting voicechat is really difficult
>>
>>151676013
Might help if the guy stopped being such a noob nigger fucker.
>>
Will Bob be available for purchase anytime soon? If not, I would just stop playing this game with all the stupid balance decisions the game devs implement
>>
>>151680693
roadmap says they are still balancing without any end in sight, so no
you might as well take a long brake until he comes out
>>
>>151680831
Pretty sure I'm gonna uninstall and never look back if I do that right now. Game gets stale after you play each map and are only solo queing. Not to mention I rather play hunters than monster, which the devs keep ruining
>>
>>151672904
I think that this non-logic is pretty prevalent amongst TRS. It's the kind of retarded shit that seems logical to the unintelligent so dumbfucks look at it and think it makes sense.

That dumb bullshit right there is why the game's almost dead again. That is legitimately their balance philosophy.
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>>151681009
>I rather play hunters than monster, which the devs keep ruining

What would give you that idea
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>>151683704
>>
>>151683704
>monster takes skill
is there any meme bigger than this?
>>
I genuinely think that the fate of this game is to die regardless if they "fix" any percieved issues.

The matchmaking is not up to par and the game's UI and systems are really hard to comprehend for newcomers.

Truly, the saddest of generals here on /vg/
>>
It's still kind of unbelievable how huge the difference in required skill between Monsters and Hunters is.

Just for example, what's hard about making Gorgon's spit not do damage 15 feet up? Why doesn't that ability do high damage if their feet are on the ground? Why doesn't the Spider Mine only grab people for its remaining lifetime instead of resetting the timer to full if it grabs some one after they run for 5+ seconds? Why does Kraken's Lightning Bolt hit 10 feet outside of the circle? Why do all of Goliath's abilities hit outside of their indicated range? Etc.

Monsters don't have to be this buttfuck easy but here we are with a 7500 peak playerbase and dropping 500+ a day
>>
who thought cataclysm was a good idea?
>>
>>151691349
I played it twice, once on hunter and once on monster

really unfun on both, waste of dev time
>>
>>151691349
The potted plant that's assigned to game balance.
>>
>Pick Torvald
>Be Psychic
>Hit 60%~ish of Mortars
>Monster is pepperonies

Feels good not being shit
>>
HOW ARE THERE STILL SO MANY SHITTERS? why havent all the shitters quit yet????
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>>151693835
The "shitters" are actually average players and monster is just that easy to play
>>
even though i like this game, the sad reality is that it wont make it for another two patches
>>
>>151694732
I just want to be there to see whatever finally kills the game
I thought orbital drill cataclysm would do it but we're still here
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http://www.evolveupdates.com/cataclysm/

literally says hunters have more wins gamergate virgins literally BTFO
>>
What perks on Kala would work best for her? I was thinking of running capacity. Yes I know she is shit.
>>
>>151694520
>people still dont know to go in 2 teams at all times: support/trapper and medic/assault
>people still dont trap the monster at stage 3 even if he just evolved and has no armor
>people still pick kala
>>>""average""
>>
>>151695653
you run the reroll perk
>>
>>151696738
Yeah I was thinking of playing more Laz.
>>
So which Val is best medic for carrying?
>>
>>151697996
vanilla val, rouge val is great for shitty monsters but any monster that has played for more than an hour will know that r val cannot out heal any damage
>>
ded
>>
thred
>>
new
>>
game
>>
hello
>>
darkness
>>
my
>>
old
>>
friend
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>>151695653

Red: Afterburners
Blue: Class Ability Cooldown
Gold: Class Ability Cooldown

Don't even bother with the armor reducer if you can't communicate with your assault. Siren missles are damn easy to use, can do a lot of damage, and can chase the monster pretty damn far.
>>
>>151710472

Also with regards to your teleporter, there's some essentials you need to get down and tell your team about.

Place them on opposite sides of a dome to give whoever's being focused a chance to escape. Even better is placing one on the outside of the dome for total evac.

Otherwise, make sure your teles are on opposite sides of the map. Only 2 of you should go through when the monster flees, don't want your entire team jumping through only to get juked by the monster.

Even the worst characters in the game can win on teams where you communicate and know what every character is capable of. Now don't be a bitch and rock the Kala.
>>
Which perks work on Crow well?
I felt like damage is good on him since he hits like a truck, always does health damage, and never gets focused.
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