/evog/ - Evolve General

Fucking character limit.

>>151004936

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Wraith a best

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>>151189567

>Still havent fixed Behemoth

>Hank still tier 0
What the actual fuck TRS

Jesus fucking goddamn.

Who gave the ok for this cataclysm? As if playing pubs wasn't hard enough with retards, now you have to deal with meteors hitting you in the head, krakens camping the green heals, and your medic running inside all orange auras.

I also tried out the coop feature. I thought it would be a fast way to get some coins and level up my characters. I was wrong. It is not fast.

RIP HANK
RIP SLIM
RIP MARKOV

>>151190056
>markov is too good, lets cut his damage by 10%
>people are bitching about how strong acid spray is since the monster can actively track you with it when you try to jetpack out
>lets nerf it by 6%

thanks.

>>151190056
>RIP HANK
This is your average /evog/ player.

No wonder they want hunters buffed and monsters nerfed.

Install is at 20%

I really only plan on playing the monster. What am I in for?

>>151189773
2nd time playing against behemoth the other day as assault#
i kept on jumping up close to it and using my flame thrower, was a really long match and died 3 times, after coming back the third 3rd time i thought hmm maybe i should attack from afar... tfw will never be able to say sorry enough

>>151190389
an enjoyable experience. the free tutorial monster you get is pretty fuckin' good now. the other op monsters would be gorgon against pubs, and kraken against everything.

>>151190389
You'll win 80% of your games until you hit level 40, then you'll never win again.

>>151190389
Brutal painful violation
After a while it will turn into brutal painful violating
Buy Kraken, be a dickbag

This game's development feels exactly like Hawken and Planetside 2 did before they died. Just desperate low-effort shit (adaptations)

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[TIER LIST UPDATE]

>Blitz Markov moved down to tier 3 - despite the buff today his nerfs were way too great
>Gorgon moved down to tier 3

>>151190389
For your first few games, you're in for a good dicking

Then after you become familiar you'll do okay providing you don't get matched up against super good people

>>151191082
Markov is Tier 2 now after his nerf. that 10% damage hit is a really big deal, especially on damage oriented comps

>>151191082

Why is the new space caira tier 5? I have not played her yet.

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i design new hunter charater
what do you think?

>>151191082
You might want to consider dropping parnell to 3 due to all the nerfs to perks. Weapon Swap/Damage/Capacity/Reload were all hit pretty hard and are essential for his damage.

>new map literally turns fights into a coin flip because people get randomly knocked around into damage fields

wew

>>151191528
despite being a medic she doesn't actually heal anyone

>slim fucking nerfed again just when he was barely viable under specific comps
>no rework on the useless spore cloud launcher

I guess I'm playing EMET. I really wanted to pick up Slim hoping that they would fix his Spore Cloud Launcher this patch— silly me thinking TRS was actually competent.

At least my boy Jack isn't getting anymore CD nerfs.

>>151189909

It really is a shitshow.
Giving the monster the ability to heal itself is fucking game breaking, that's why they removed the tyrants. Now they've implemented one because... Both teams can make use of them? But oh wait, the monster can just bat whoever he's focusing around like a cat with a mouse, the RNG meteors favor the monster in just about every way. It is hilarious.

And the best part? They wasted man hours on this garbage instead of implementing aviary, dam, slag town, broken hill mine, or any number of legacy's maps or game modes.

Seriously, what fucking imbecile gave the greenlight to this shit?

>>151191528
bad at heals

I've been doing double swap time and dmg for parnell and consistently hitting 18-27k damage

Why is this guy considered bad? He shit as much mid range damage as any of the others and cuts like a knife if the monster doesn't move for a few moments.

>>151192707
He has to aim for more than 5 seconds so markov and hyde pickers hate him.

>>151190539
I'm level 50 and the only times I lose as a monster is the 1% pre made group or I lose connection.

>>151191528
Because there bad and barely play.

Give it a week and she'll be tier 1.

>>151191463
So there would be no Tier 1 Assaults? As much as that 10% nerf hurts, Markov's still your absolute best bet against any monster.

Chain lightning is great against banshee mines and spiders. Not to mention the huge range that gun has, which is an amazing counter to monster mobility.

>>151191725
I personally don't think the nerfs on those numbers are that significant. Do you really think Parnell deserves to be on the same tier as Lennox and Blitz, while having very consistent damage at all ranges?

>>151191528
Pure trash. Her healing rates are awful first of all. You need to stand in a very obvious small round area for the heals to work - that is an absolute DREAM for the monster. All you need to do is deny that area and the game is over.

>>151191725
Everyone suffers.

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>>151191082

>Wraith moved down because a her bugged decoy was fixed, but her bugged abduction was also fixed making it far more reliable
>moved down to tier 4 because a bug that anyone with half a brain could deal with was removed

This makes no sense at all. The decoy bug did one thing and one thing only, it allowed shit monsters to pick wraith and face roll really shit hunter teams. It was hard countered by slim, one of the worst medics for fuck's sake.
She is definitely still in tier 3. She does not get abused.
Please explain to me how you reached this decision to move her down to T4 and I will explain why you are wrong. She is T3 at the very least. At the very LEAST.

>>151193219
I agree that she's T3, but abduction is only good if you want to give a decent team a couple of seconds of free damage

>>151193435
it was hit for a total of 13% if i recall correctly. that's a pretty big deal on a entire utility based perk.

>>151193773
Maybe it's time to invest in silver rocket man and use it to manage your distance to the monster better. It does a huge difference for me.

>>151193219
I've lost to a Wraith perhaps once in the last week or so. And that was a combination of decoy bug and a fairly good monster player.

I'm seriously think about moving her back up, but as a hunter I've only been really hurting against Krakens and Goliaths. I think this is also due to the fact Wraith and Gorgon have very small health and armor pools, making way less room for mistakes.

>>151193675

Depends who you abduct.
Assault is usually best avoided, but they are a low priority target anyway.
It can be safely used on just about any medic but Slim, which is a big deal, and even then the damage he's going to do to you shooting you in face is still probably worth the abduct.
Supports are often busy doing their thing so again it is very usable on them.
The trapper really needs to be on point but I'd still say they are a viable target, but again, they are a lower priority than medic or support. For these reasons I'd say it is still a very valuable and usable skill.

It's value lies in the ability to control the fight and force the hunters to re-position around you. Abduction is a critically under-rated ability, granted it's bug is a problem, but I will maintain that it is more than worth the risk. Abduction is Wraith's bread and butter as much as Warp Blast is.

>>151194175

Please do not let the legion of skew your tier list. Too many bads pick wraith and go for a decoy spamming build. That may be what is advised on reddit and the TRS forums but it is not what is advised in these threads. Your tier list is the /evog/ tier list, and if a new player follows the advice given her I can promise she most certainly will not be abused.
I play hunters as much as I play monsters, and I understand where you're coming from. When I see a Wraith pick it doesn't ring nearly as many alarm bells as some other monsters, but I can categorically guarantee that she will not "be abused" as her current tier suggests, so long as she isn't built around decoy spam. She definitely deserves to be in tier 3 at the very least.

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Holy SHIT parnell is sex. 5 wins in a row. 3 of them with the monster at -3 health bars in the first dome. Don't get reload just swap speed and damage. They reload exactly in the time it takes the empty the magazine. It is like doing constant markov lighting damage at all range with the option to triple the damage output the moment the monster stops focusing you. This shit is bonkers.

>>151195079
>monster focusing assault
Is it actually viable after all the assault shield nerfs now?

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>>151195079
>They reload exactly in the time it takes the empty the magazine
I'm an autist and this is very pleasing

If there was a male Wraith, would it just be a trap?

>>151195287
Not really I think unless you know he has over committed and you can down him. Does the most damage but does the least to keep the other hunters up and downing hunters is the priority for the monster.

If a hyde blows his entire jetpack and matrix just to get in your face then yeah fuck his world up.

>>151195287
yeah, assault takes half damage during it. only half. so your time to kill goes from 5s to 7.5s

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>>151195331
>male wraith

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>>151194906
I really can't control what kind of monster players I keep getting. I play a great deal of Support and Medic, and I am always focused by the Wraith. Any time I'm abducted I jetpack boost up once or twice and watch the helpless thing try to do something.

The most scary Wraiths are the ones constantly hitting those abducts and chaining them with the warp blast. I just felt I either got good at dodging those, rather than the skill level of the Wraiths dropping. I can tell when the opponent is a shitter, but those swimming in the sea of mediocrity can often be hard to judge accurately.

I've moved Wraith back up to T3, I suppose overall the change was more personally biased and uncalled for. In the end there's no way Wraith can sit in the same tier as Elder Kraken.

>[mandatory Tier List copy paste for CTRL+F fags]

>>151196370
Since you have it listed

How in the hell do you beat a good Kraken?

The ones that perma float in the air for 45 seconds at a time raining down death? It seems there is no comp that can deal enough ranged damage while avoiding all the bombardment in a protracted dome fight.

>>151196370
Markov should probably be moved to t2 tho
literally 10% dmg nerf

>>151196808
Still one of the best all around picks. No real weakness. Consistent damage. Can deal with a lot of annoying chaff like kraken mines and gorgon spiders with the snap targeting lighting gun. Mines can actually help protect your team while all the other Assaults have little to no ability to help aside from damage.

>>151196769
your best bet is to use good terrain to your advantage. that also means that a bad dome just means another two strikes to your team, or worse
also dont roach, kraken just laugh about it.

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>>151196808
>half the assaults are tier 2
So we have on class that is actually balanced.

>>151197304
trapper are balanced as well

>>151197431
Trapper really isn't, the only thing keeping shitters like the Maggies and e griffin high is how good the 4 is.

>>151196769
You need a character that's good at taking out his little floating balls or at least rockblocks them. It's the same deal with Gorgon and its spider.

Got matched against a ESL monster with more than 20 times my play time. Can someone explain this 'skill' based matchmaking to me?

>>151195756
Are you saying that Kala is a trap?

>>151197942
based on overall win % is my guess. it really should separate for monster overall and hunter overall though.

>>151198424
>dissolving the lines between genders, species , and identities
>endlessly brings up this "fact" to all those around her regardless of the ongoing conversation and making it an incredibly big deal that everyone MUST be a part of
>self destructive behavior that will end to her being a burned out dead corpse

Yeah, she is a trans alright.

>>151196769
How do you beat a good Kraken? You don't.

The best you can do is have your teammates focus the banshee minese. If they run Grounder or the movement speed slow on attacks perk, you might as well kiss your ass goodbye. The only time they will miss that lightning strike if the terrain is heavily against their favor.

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>>151191082
Just why is Lazarus that bad?
I dont get it

Speaking of medics, after playing Val, her kit is incredibly bloated and should be nerfed. She's got so much good shit to her, tranquilizer that slows and tags the monster, a sniper rifle that deals a lot of damage and creates large weak spots that amplifies the damage dealt to monster by 2x and a heal gun, also healing burst.

And how do we fix Torvald?

>>151199517
Clearly we need to give Torvald a tranquilizer mortar

>>151199517
>Just why is Lazarus that bad?
His single purpose of healing the team. He cannot do it. All he is good for is if your team is already kicking the shit out of the monster and you can undo a strike as it runs for it's life. If the monster is actually dealing damage then he is worthless. Any monster worth his salt will simply camp the body waiting for the revive. Rendering the team unable to truly fight back.

>two healing meteors drop on my downed body and heal me back to full
>doesnt revive
I am offended
This game is offensive

>>151199517
because he can't heal and hunters are given a strike if he brings them back from the dead. so he has literally no fucking purpose against any half competent monster. You used to be able to sneak revives if the assault got his attention for 1s, now you need to keep him entertained for 3s for a revive. Really fucking retarded.

>>151199517
Make his mortars work their magic faster or some shit.

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Thinking of buying Slim
Is there any way to make him work? Perks or anything?
I do not wish to buy Emet, Caira or either of Val's. ( and I already made the mistake and bought Lazarus, not falling for Quantum Caira doe [maybe] )

Why the hell did they nerf Slim again ?

>>151201256
Slim isn't that bad, but requires more work than for example Val. his smoke launcher is complete useless, though.
he works best with maxed out reloading perks.

>>151201484
statistics said people had fun

>>151201256
>Thinking of buying Slim

I wouldn't if I were you. They just nerfed him again and he was just barely viable before. His Spore Cloud Launcher is useless and is basically a visual fx dispenser (I also read somewhere that it's actually bugged and that hunters who shoot will have their name and hp bar become visible, regardless if the monster is standing in the dome).

>>151201596

I'd argue capacity is just as good, just more expensive since no hunters have its superior versions in their progression unlock.

>>151195331
We already have a Wraith Trap and it sucks ass.

>>151201761
Sounds about right.
I'm waiting for the day when playing with pubs will become an absolute nightmare. Most of the hunters I get on my team are absolute drooling retards who just stand there when I'm boosting them as Sunny. Slim was (emphasis on was) the only medic I had fun playing before the nerf, now it's back to square one.

>>151201256
i'd wait until his rework since only his gun and heal burst are notably useful. his healing bug is aight for some free chip healing during jetpack boosts though.

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>read TRS official forum
>only vocal monster shitter discussing there
>'why nerfing grounder, it was perfectly fine'
>'full DR is not OP, because you're mission out on feeding speed'

>people saying lazarus is balanced

My fucking sides. No other character was nerfed as hard as lazarus when 2.0 came around. Not even lennox comes close to the amount of nerfs that Laz got.

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For maximum asspain on parnell. Do you do reload/capacity/swap/dmg?

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>>151204240
poor serbian medic
its already hard to remove monsters from premises

>>151196370
https://www.reddit.com/r/EvolveGame/comments/4w3y1r/the_current_huntermonster_tier_list_according_to/

Guys, if at any point you thought you were shitters and still learning the ins-and-outs of the game, you should read the thread above.

How am i supposed to keep my team alive as medic when the supports never do anything to help?

>>151203483
>>151204240
Honestly I wonder with TRS even listens to monster main shitters, getting a win against a decent monster in pubs is nearly impossible.
You got monsters with 90% winrate for fuck's sake.

>but muh premades
Wew, that sure allows us to nerf hunters indiscriminately every fucking update.

>>151204585
Swap on tier 2 is the most important since it allows you to keep great DPS in rage mode. For tier 1 and 3 damage perks are a good choice but if you feel like you have trouble staying in the monster's face Rocket perks are good too.

>>151204729

Sorry, I meant trappers. Monster is hugging my buts 24/7 and I can never get a peel

we see Markov is much better than other assaults and we want to make everyone equally viable. so we nerfed Markov. what? you expected some buffs for the others? dont be silly, too much work.
t. TRS

>>151204585
My personal preference is swap > lithium > rocket king.
For me it's all about keeping up with the monster.

>>151204729
>>151205221
Pray for a retarded monster :^).
Other than that, there's not much you can do, you can try to play extra carefully but a good monster will always find a way to get your ass in pubs. Hank or Sunny are good choices as support to help protect the medic but it implies your team isn't shit.

>>151205373
Pretty much. I wonder if one day TRS will ever do something but objectively bad picks. The game has so many characters and yet I almost always end up picking a few ones because I know that my winning chances are slim to none with some picks.

>>151204728
It's just leddit being leddit as usual.

>>151204728
kek, a nice read
lellit are mouth breather

jesus fuck, im even losing to goliaths now. I just can't get a good team in ranked. down to bronze master. I'm a good enough caira, but it's like trappers and supports don't even exist

>>151207105
>even losing to goliaths
>even
Goliaths are good, though and unlike Wraiths and Gorgons they forgive many mistakes done by the monsterplayer

>>151207105
Normal Goliath is quite retarded on damage since the buffs. You should not feel bad losing to those at all.

Even before the patch, 1000+ hour monster players with Goliath were a force to be reckoned with.

>>151207105
I lose a lot and try the coop mode against bot monster... this is absurd easy.

>>151207469
You would think bot matches would go smooth as butter.
You would think wrong, never underestimate people.

>>151207761
It's imposible to lose against bot. What are you trying to say?

>>151207761
matches last 3-5min, monster (always Goliath) never reaches S2

>>151207469
>this is absurd easy

It is fun

No hacker, no autist and no retard as monster

I love all those loser tears who are pissed that pug groups can enjoy Evolve now.

>>151208324
it's never an impossibility
your teammates might be complete fuck-ups or just afk for most of the match
you might have 3 leavers and you're left with a team of bots and it's actually possible to lose with this game's AI hunters because they're retarded
If you get caught in an environmental hazard like those plants, the bots wont try to save you, they just watch you slowly die, medic occasionally heals you but that's about it

Never question how fuckign bad people can be in games, and how stupid AI is, or sometimes how good it is.

>>151209296
it could use more monsters, though
since they never reach S2, it would be nice to set sem to S2 or S3 from the start for additional awards

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>emet isnt a meme pick guise

>>151210197
At least he revived the support, I guess?

>key earnings have been nerfed to the ground
>nerfing hunters some more

Thanks TRS, really making me want to keep playing.

Also,

>previous patch, "No Preference" advertised 20 bonus keys but was bugged and didn't award them
>went up to 150 and worked
>now it's 15

Are they smoking crack? What the fuck is wrong with these retarded developers?

>>151210463
>now it's 15
It's 10

>>151210463
the 150 and 100 was part of a bonus key weekend. The real values have been stated to be this low for awhile

>>151210463
Meanwhile at TRS headquarters:
> all active players will be pissed when we wipe progress transitioning out of beta
> therefore cull playerbase intentionally, hoping those who do return for the final release take having to start from zero with less bitching
it is intentional and damn if it ain't working!

>>151211143
>all active players will be pissed when we wipe progress transitioning out of beta
Is this a real thing? I'll probably quit playing if they wipe my progress.

>see medic picks laz
>why not, guess I'll go bucket since he's supposed to be good with him
>my 4 reveals him to the monster
Was it always like this? What the fuck is the point of a cloak when your own team mate can reveal you to the monster?

I just learned what direction you aim affects your leap as Goliath. Suddenly games are million times easier. What other dumb shit could I have missed?

August 9th, 2016

>Monsters buffed
>Hunters nerfed


Golly gee, what a surprise. Those darn hunter players were having a bit too much fun this last week. Meanwhile, twitchtv/autismo and the 15 Evolve competitive players have all unanimously agreed that Monsters were UP; I guess we should buff them some more.


Care to take predictions for the next (week's?) patch notes /evog/?

>starting to have hunters dodge if they don't get monster

Why do people rate regular Markov better than Blitz Markov?

Whenever I play regular Markov, his lightning gun just feels very weak, it's only decent against wildlife

Blitz Markov gets huge damage multiplier on the Lightning Gun when you keep the tether on the monster and with good aim and fast movements, it's easy to keep on the monster, and it demolishes their health bar.

Explain

>>151213303
Try keeping the gun on a kraken that never lands and is on the edge of every map spamming skills and attacks. Or the amount of assfuckery and interrupts almost every monster has

>>151213303
good luck keeping that tether up against a monster with a brain

Blitzkov is fucking trash whenever all the monster has to do is press space to negate 80% of Blitzkov's damage

>>151212367
>All monster abilities now count as melee attacks
>Monster ability cooldown reduced by 33% by default, can be increased by extra 33% through evolution
>Reduced primary weapon damage for all assaults by 20%
>Reduced Defense Matrix to 10% damage reduction from 50%
>Reduced medic healing across the board
>Maggie now only has one harpoon trap
>Wasteland Maggie has no harpoon traps
>Wasteland Maggie now deals no damage
>Daisy now stays at spawn like a good doggie
>Greatly reduced Griffin's harpoon range
>Increased hunter class ability cooldowns by 100%
>Hunters no longer receive passive abilities from albinos
>Lazarus' personal cloak now locks him from being picked at character select
>Hunters no longer playable

Anything else?

>>151199517
make his mortar slightly aimable after shooting, like as in you need to keep the mouse key pressed and it tracks a bit if you do

Anyone wants to team up? I'm in the /evog/ group chat.

>>151213303
Much shorter range and if the monster farts in your direction the beam is broken. You have to keep the beam on the monster for 4 seconds at MINIMUM to break even. This is keeping in melee range but not being attacked.

Meanwhile OG Markov does good damage at a longer range and can get the full discharge off without being interrupted and can be switching to the rifle until it recharges.

>>151213935

They should make a Monster Brawl mode. I'd probably have more fun at this point if they just allowed everyone to play monster and just duke it out. Kraken would still probably win though.

>birds removed from cataclysm map
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>151216107
>birds

They should remove everything. Including the map.

Holy shit, Cabot's damage was nerfed as well. Doing 130 per shot when I did 190 before the patch

the new co-op is a bit repetetive, but at least I got 20k keys out of it + some perk that make real hunt a bit easier

why do they try to force their stupid telemetry based balancing so hard when most new players play hunter side? it doesn't even have to be 50-50 right now and at low levels, it actually should be slightly skewed in favor of the hunters since there are more hunter players

shit monster players would still lose as monsters even if they are buffed but they just have more wiggle room in terms of mistakes

hunters have almost none despite having fucking 4 people on the same team

it's fucking infuriating reading the dev replies to criticism, they have their tm data and their heads so far up their own asses despite their stupid ideas causing the game to bleed to death

so they made monster AI even shittier but at the same time made it so that the AI goliath can literally throw the rock in ANY direction while facing another and turning instantly in less than a millisecond

>stand behind monster
>see monster pick up a rock and aim it at the medic
>it lets go of the rock, throwing it without turning around
>but the rock suddenly hits me who is about 170-180 degrees behind where it was actually aiming
>later see it aiming and starting the release animation in my direction but then the rock actually flies in another direction

still a joke to beat but that kind of fuckery is just poor AI coding just like rubberbanding in racing games

TRS is truly amazing

Daily reminder that Evolve could have nearly 100k players playing it right now and that number would be increasing little by little each week if the devs were competent instead of dumb retards.

>>151219368
It could always do that.

Not going to lie. When I get an utter shitter two games in a row as Hunter, trolling him by just forcing him to lose is absolutely fantastic. It's zero effort on my end but madness-inducing on their end.

>>151197304
Balanced but a bit underpowered, really. I do my best as assault but 9 times out of 10 the stage one goliath comboes my medic/support down about when I get through his armor, and god forbid I let a pub guy play assault.

Also with all the traversal changes stasis feel virtually useless.

>>151219794
it was fucky before but I don't remember it being that fucky before since it used to throw it in the direction of the throw release animation, now the rock can fly in any direction

>its another monster plays like the biggest pussy on earth
>its that rerun AND hes playing kraken this time
>its another lazarus episode

Get in the Steam chat if you want to play.

>play grind mode
>get a genuine shitter medic that picks Slim and spams spore bubbles when chasing the monster, actually making it harder to spot it

all Slim needs to do especially in bot matches is to spam the shitty shotgun damage and then use burst as needed or spam that too

pretty sure he stopped playing at some point near the end since he didn't even come to the final dome, what a useless piece of shit

You know... I never thought I'd dodge a coop AI match but then I saw that name.

That

Fucking

Guy

Fucking "dellerius".

One of the biggest shitters to EVER play this game.

>>151224850
is that some streamer or some random shitter you played with previously?

Is there a good video tutorial for each of the characters and monsters?

Perks for hank and tech hank?

>>151225901
there used to be in the FUCKING GAME, but TRS removed them

Is Parnell the best long-range assault? Are there other options?

>>151226062
Why? Also the voice acting for the tutorials is terrible.

>>151225628
Random shitter that at least two, me and some other guy from here, has played with before.

He is extremely bad and would just make the match last longer than it should.

>>151226153
because the game changed enough for some of them not to be valid anymore

>>151226941
I'm guessing they're too cheap to update them.

can we get a team for quick co op grind? the mode is so braindead easy and I don't want to deal with random idiots anymore + there should be the party bonus available I think

>All this talk of meteors and self healing

I dropped Evolve Stage 2 for a week and a half. What the fuck did I miss?

>>151227956
>What the fuck did I miss?

>hunters nerfed more
>coop vs ai (like hunt, but monster leaves)
>new map with meteors that fall and generate auras that damage or heal both monsters and hunters

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aw shit man these apparently new fucking lines are fucking nice

>>151229693
>New

>>151230795
my Hyde's nearly level 40 and I have not seen those lines in stage 2 before

>>151230925
Because you shouldn't see Hyde and Cabot together.

>>151231017

cabot is a bro, cuck

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>38 games winstreak
>join a new match
>black screen
>game wont start
>force shut down the program
>que to a new match
>winstreak completely flushed

I am fucking ready to kill a nigga

>>151232258
I've gotten the same shit. This game doesn't even work any more.

>>151231017
Is it because they're both white?

>>151232685
>Cabot
>White

>>151219368
Don't forget hive mind AI

>>151226106
Yes and mid range and close range. Don't spec into reload or capacity. Get swap and damage and change every time a weapon runs dry. The damage is nutty professor if you can aim in the least and let's you truly melt a bitch nigger if he focuses someone too long. Point blank or long range just fire whatever you have out. The reload and capacity means dick when they reload so quickly when offhanded.

>pick monster in coop mode
>always get your second preference
>every single time

unless there's another one who knows this trick and chooses monster

nice work trs

anyway, enjoy your free 15 keys every time

>>151226280
I think I played with him before,
> he got eaten by a man eating plant
>I freed him
>walking around like a lost puppy suspicious not to walk in to another one
>walks into another one
>free him again and he just walked around really slowly looking around in every direction possibl
>basically dead weight
>basically he was left behind and we fought monster in dome where we almost kill monster
>he is like across the map
>we ambush monster and kill him and mid ambush I'm pretty sure he got eaten by another plant

>>151233339
well I mean you get 15 keys nonetheless for monster but you will also get your preferred grinding class as a bonus

>>151219667
>nearly 100k players
That's a bit generous, but we would probably have a stable playerbase instead of being on life support

>>151219667
Turtle Rock has been hit harder than any other AAA studio by the socjus meme. They've fired so many good technical workers in favor of sociology degree meme women.

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>>151234806
>meme women

>>151234806
Sauce, I want to read that.

>have a nice 30 winstreak in grind mode
>game doesn't load
>just blackscreens
>"not responding"

I guess there goes another winstreak and the 150 winstreak will elude me forever if it keeps crashing randomly like this now.

>>151218010
Did you damage monster? Cabot wasn't in patch notes, probably monster had damage reduction perks.

>>151189292
Any new monsters added yet? If not I'm going back to overwatch general

yet another game BTFO of itself with """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""balancing"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

>>151233178
>damage
>for a shotgun

explain

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>This is after a brand new patch
>It still lost 500~ more players
>The new patch spike was lower than the previous day

Down to 5k peaks by the end of the week, I'm calling it now.

>>151235447
Parnell's shotgun hurts point blank what is confusing?

>>151235447
I'd say 60% if not more of parny damage is the rock it lawn chair. Not to mention when you land all the pellets the damage adds up.

>>151235819
even if you stack damage, that's 19% applied to a 10 damage pellet

how is that not a waste

>>151235928
i suppose, maybe i just need to try it

dmg% perks work best on attacks that have high single hit damage, not spread shit like shotgun pellets or low damage per bullet automatics

but since lennox was nerfed to shit and the perks as well, the perks are not even really worth it on her anymore
it's better to have boost/speed skills to catch the monster and be able stick to it and dodge heavier attacks when out of shield or medic range

>>151236197
You don't stack damage on Parnell

That is the point

>>151236197
Hunter damage perks were nerfed by 3% by the way.

So was everything else.

stop being so shit TRS
you are making me REEEEEEEEEEEEE

It would appear that the wraiths rank 3 supernova is bugged and reduces the damage you do to 50 per hit, from the 60 per hit from rank 1 and 2.

>>151240901
Quality entertainment™

>>151240901
TRS, truly the greatest dev team.

>remove clutter from maps
>tone down clusterfuckery effects
>introduce a map variant that is more clusterfuckery than any other map available

well done, TRS, well done...

HOWEVER

>>151235543
We are about 2 patches away from ded.
They are nerfing literally everything about the hunters every patch and buffing monsters.

I mean keep going TRS, you are almost there, the game is almost dead.

A FREEEEEE game is dying, sinking like a rock. Well done.

CALLING IT NOW, THEY WILL NERF JETPACK RECHARGE NEXT PATCH!

gobe go

>>151243464
a few very minor monster nerfs but also buffs
hunters will be nerfed more

and another 2000 players gone because of it

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>>151243954
So what's the next step in their master plan?
Crashing this game with no players?
They are getting no money, they are killing off ALL potential playerbase. Yet they don't stop , they just go full "fuck it" and are trying to sink it fast and hard.
What...what are they hopping to achieve?!

>>151244406
I want to get off TRS's wild ride

>like the game
>keep playing
>it will all be for naught
>the game will be gone before the end of the year

same shit happened with DI:E

fucking stupid devs making stupid decisions and killing games with potential

Is there any way to actually make Turtle solo queue and actually play their own damn game

>>151245909
they normally only play monster solo and when they play hunter they of course play in a team of their own people and twitchfags that are already competent etc

not true randoms

>>151246346
Saw one of their balance guys(I think insane?) solo que as a hunter once.

>>151246346
>>151245909
If the devs ever hope to have any idea about balance in this game they need to play 150 hours in SOLO QUE.
Without fucking 4 man premade team, to see what 95% of players experience every game.

>>151246481
I did as well

he lost that time

>>151247002
> hunters are op
>can't win a pub game because he doesn't have a premade team to help him out

>>151242646
i regret buying a founders key

>>151248193
as do I

I mean I got plenty of hours out of this game but it's going to die way too soon

>>151246558
>hunters are op
playing hunter takes skill, you have to manage your own toon, and 3 other retards on your team

>>151248193
>>151248363
Ah, well, what can you expect when they devs are legitimately perfect examples of Monster-Only shitters that have never solo queued in their life?

On top of that, they don't even queue with a couple friends that aren't amazing at the game to see what it feels like for a non-tryhard premade either.

The statistics speak for themselves, there's really no point in trying to convince them of anything because they're dead set on sinking this ship.

>>151248363
Yeah
I mained monster. This game had a lot of potential and was fun for awhile but I've gotten bored of it when it became clear that every game was going exactly the same, even as a hunter.

I really do wonder what TRS has planned. Did they really never intend to ever include anything you have to pay for? Do they still think the game can be saved?

>>151248657
>Do they still think the game can be saved?

TRS is deluded as fuck

I am not giving up you faggots. We want shit changed?

Lets organize a meeting with one of the devs on their Discord. Lets have an open and constructive discussion instead of backseat commenting like pussies which is typical for this general it seems.

Fuck their forums. Spam them on Twitter or lets raid the Discord and have a talk.

If you care, then take action before its too late. I don't know about you but Imma hop on Discord tonight at about 3PM PDT. I'll dm one of the CM girls maybe she can get the balance guy to hang out and have a chat.

>>151248934
I like your moxie, but you're a bit hopeful

>>151248934
>If you care, then take action before its too late.
I don't care.
If the devs are So set out to kill their own FREE GAME. Then I don't think
1.)They can be saved from their delusion
2.)They should be saved from their delusion

It's 2-3 patches away from ded, just let them finish their job

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>>151248934
Yeah but I don't care though and I want it to fail at this point.

They deserve the crash and burn, and they certainly don't deserve any of my effort.

>>151248934
the lead designer is an idiot who likes his telemetry data too much, it's impossible to get any game saving ideas (like making the game more about fun instead of making monster play easier and easier and that it's ok if hunters have a slight edge in wins especially for now) through his thick skull

>>151248934
I """barely""" care
I've already moved on.
Maybe if they ever release behemoth i'll play again for a bit but if this game i dies, i won't care that much

>>151249381
yo hold up *smacks lips* yo telling me I shoudln't balance the game around 5 premade teams that are in the tournaments and instead should balance the game around solo que where 95% of the player base is going to be?

>>151248934
I'll watch, already being in their disco, but I don't know enough yet to make informed calls

>>151249530
>Literally wanting the game to cater to casual retards with no friends
>"wahhh I should be able to win by my effort alone in a team based game"
Congrats on being a cancerous shitbag.

>>151250269
>I rather the game be balanced around 4 man premade teams with perfect teamwork and mics that play in tourneys
>I don't care if 95% of players are suffering playing this game solo
>git gud shitter HAHAHA
>t.monster main and TRS

Look man, you can balance the game for the 1% of the population and have that 1% of population stick around a bit longer.
Just don't come crying to us when you are bored and sad of playing same 200 players over and over again.

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>>151249187
>>151249204
>>151249286

Aight. If you stopped caring, shut the fuck up or leave.


I am going to continue spamming them until they ban (at which point uninstall) or at least try and have a good conversation with meaningful feedback.

Telemetry data or not, I'd much rather push for action than shidbosding on an indonesian barn LAN café

>>151250608
>Telemetry data or not, I'd much rather push for action than shidbosding on an indonesian barn LAN café
Is this your first game ruined by devs?
Awww how cute. I have been through this song and dance over 6 times now, I really learned that you should just bail early and not waste any time, money, energy into games that devs are set out to kill.

>>151250872

No. This is actually my 9th game ruined by devs, but I'm not phased by trying, unlike a huge chunk of these jaded faggots on this board.

>>151251179
By all means, go try it and waste your time. Don't act like a bitch though when others know better though.

>>151251312

I am certainly not going to come back and complain on this board. I wanted to rally people so we can at least send a message, but tis fine I've done this before on my own with less momentum.

>>151250608
haha, the fuck are you on about autist?

>>151251603

I'm calling you out like the backwards swamp man you are :•DDDD

Lets take a look at a PRO evolve hunter player playing in solo que :^)
Mind you this person plays in tourneys and wins.

tv/xxwardoomxx/v/82710499
Skipt to 7 hours 40 min for a perfect example.

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>Glances at official forums
>It's nothing but Monster mains telling everyone that monsters are hard to play and to watch out for the intense learning curve

There comes at point where it's not funny and you just want to watch the ship sink with them on it. Die, Evolve. And bring your shitters with you.

>>151252460
Also, hah. It's perfect. Just a little before 7:40 (like 7:38) is just him talking about how much of a bitch it is to play Hunter at this point.

Back in your grave, Evolve. No one wants you anymore.

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>>151252835
>>151252460
Yeah, I just saw him winning against 40 winstreak twicth cunt with pubs kek

Assault rules, literally. Saved the day alone

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>>151253405
> Saved the day alone
You know he is playing with a premade, right? RIGHT?! TELL ME MONSTER MAIN YOU AREN'T THIS RETARDED.
Also the monster let the team revive people for free.
He won by the skin of his teeth. If either factors weren't present he would have lost.

>>151252835
>It's nothing but Monster mains telling everyone that monsters are hard to play and to watch out for the intense learning curve
Yeah pic related.

>>151253659
this explains a lot. the monster mains just have autism

I think the game balancing might be bad when 1/3 of the characters aren't even viable in a pub setting. Inherently, monsters themselves are designed to be good as 4 hunter players so if one of those hunter players is garbage, then the hunters have no hopes of winning. Whereas with monsters, you literally don't need to rely on anyone else to do their job.

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ahahaha
>that damage

>>151253405
>plays 3 games against the same monster
>loses 2 games even with his premade
>wins the last game with his premade and by the fact the monster let them revive for free
>wins by the skin of his teeth
>Wow hunters are OP

Yeah, yeah delusional monster main showing up once again.

>>151253818
Looks like a match where the Assault didn't do fuck all and there was a Cabot so the Trapper had more time to shoot

What about it?

>>151253659
>You know he is playing with a premade, right? RIGHT?!
No, he does not.
The only pre-made guy was Sakusomewthing dude and he wasn't better at Evolve than me and I'm pretty bad.

Another guy was a random pub Monster main and barely played hunters.

Medic was random and he also quit in the end.

So no, it is not proper pre-made.

>Also the monster let the team revive people for free.
And? That's his mistake as a montser and their sucess as a hunter. It is not like he willing let them do that. Why are you stating it like some kind of advantage hunter had for free. They earned it, little faggot.

>He won by the skin of his teeth.
That's like how all the victories in pub with braindead people.

>>151253791
That is the core of the issue.
But monster mains and TRS solution to that is to scream "git gud shitters, why don't you have a 4 man premade at all times"
Don't forget muh HUGE learning curve with monsters :^)
Don't forget monster mains taking great pride in stomping uncoordinated pubs, like it's a feat or something.

>>151253920
must have been a torvald. his grenade and abe's shotgun plus cabot's damage buff would do huge damage

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>>151253874
>>151253659
>being this assblasted that a good competitive played does MILES better than him in braindead pub
kek
the salt is real

GIT
U
D

>>151253967
>you know he had a premade
>lol no he didn't have a premade
>he only had 1 guy who was a premade with him
WOW monster mains

>talk about solo que
>it isn't solo que, he is premade with a friend
>w-w-well that doesn't count HUNTERS ARE STILL OP!, they win 1/3 games, sometimes...

>Medic was random and he also quit in the end.
Yeah when he was dead

>And? That's his mistake as a montser and their sucess as a hunter. It is not like he willing let them do that. Why are you stating it like some kind of advantage hunter had for free. They earned it, little faggot.
Explain to me how exactly does a hunter EARN the monser completely ignoring a revive for FREE. You don't EARN the mistakes of your opponent.
The same way you as a monster main, don't EARN the 1 of the hunters running off from the group, doming you alone and then you promptly killing him for a free strike.

>That's like how all the victories in pub with braindead people.
Yeah, except if he wasn't premade with the guy, or the monster didn't give free revives, he wouldn't have won that 1 out 3 games.

>Monster-Only autists will defend TRS's absolute dumbfuckery until Evolve's dying day
>They'll never admit the game died because of how shit it was for 4 out of 5 people
>They'll bullshit some excuse that they actually force themselves to believe about why the game died, like "muh learning curve"

The good thing is that the game will be dead in around 2~ weeks so they don't need to defend a flawed product for that much longer.

>>151254139
>miles better
>winning one out 3 games against a monster by the skin of his teeth while with a premade.

Delusional monster main.

>>151254191
this desu senpai hunters are alphas who just play the game and hop off monsters and the kind of turbonerds that go to forums when they are butthurt and complain. they are literally killing the game by being pussies that can't get good

>>151254191
>>151254272
>git gut hunter shitter
>monsters have a HUGEEEEEEE learning curve
>git gut, you are getting rekt because you are just bad
>I have over 90% win rate because I am just so pro you see!
>WTF I LOST? FUCKING HUNTERS OP, my 100 win streak is RUINED! I need 10 patches worth of blanket hunter nerfs and monster buffs!!!!

t.every delusional monster main

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>>151254160
>WOW monster mains
Yes, they tend to be pretty bad as Huntersm especially on dodge. Both support and trapper were pretty bad on that in that game.

>Yeah when he was dead
Exactly. They managed to win against 40 winstreak main without a medic at all. All he did whole game is healing himself.

>Explain to me how exactly does a hunter EARN the monser completely ignoring a revive for FREE.
Are you literally autistic? Any mistakes monster makes or hunter force him to make is hunter's success REGARDLESS. They capitalize on that.
The monster made a mistake and hunters were damn good to notice it and use to their avantage. That means they are good hunters.
it is not like Monster were bad, the had 40 winstreak and won against Wardoom twice, until the latter picked up Assault and ravaged hi ass. Literally this was the breaking point in the rematches.

>Yeah, except if he wasn't premade with the guy, or the monster didn't give free revives, he wouldn't have won that 1 out 3 games.
>that fallacy after fallacy
Do you think if you keep repeating "monster gave them free revives!" over and over like a mantra it will change something? I can't and I won't take you seriously if you think this is something you can use as an argument. Monster made a mistake - hunters won. That means HUNTERS were BETTER than Monster. Easy as that.

If hunter would fail to use his mistake to their advantage then they would lose and that would mean monster is BETTER that hunter. But that wasn't the case.

This is what skill is - being able to notice mistakes your opponent did and using them against him and capitalizing on that. Hunter (that team pretty much consisted only one decent hunter) were more skilled.


--------

Anyway, the amount of salt I see in your raging post clearly indicates you were the Monster fag who got his ass raped by one decent player in the pub.

This is literally pathetic.
>losing as a monster
>in the pub

The kekiest of all keks.
please delete the game

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By the way, this guy who is being assblastmad about his lose to Wardoom right now named Prodigy or something like that.

Point and laugh.

I will post twicth later top rub it in.

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>Playing Evolve at this point and not contributing to its death by not playing

What are you people doing? Just give up already. Let them have their 200 player peaks with a 20 player competitive scene. It's fine. You can let it happen, it's not a big deal. Better games have already suffered worse.

>>151254605
>Any mistakes monster makes or hunter force him to make is hunter's success REGARDLESS.
>my opponents mistakes are MY SKILL
>delusional monster mains mindset as he stomps some pub retards who can't even switch weapons

>This is what skill is - being able to notice mistakes your opponent did and using them against him and capitalizing on that.
Yeah yeah, as I pointed out above, you think it's your skill stomping pubs because obviously all the mistakes they make is your pure skill.

>Anyway, the amount of salt I see in your raging post clearly indicates you were the Monster fag who got his ass raped by one decent player in the pub.
You literally have brain damage if from all my complaining about monster mains, you concluded that I am indeed some monster main myself.

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>>151253659
Can't make this shit up.

>>151254361
i owned a monster main /evog/ sperg not too long ago. he cried hacks the moment we started beating his ass it was hilarious you can look in the archived thread and see it if you care

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>>151256095
oh boy....

Have they reduced the non preferred role bonus? Only got 15 keys

>>151256495
my fucking sides don't they realize you can simply focus Hank and his shield won't mean shit

>>151256551
Nah son the shitters have spoken
New hunter nerfs incoming, enjoy seeing hank drop through the tier list faster than the game's playercount
Plus more lazarus nerfs because why the fuck not :^)

I miss Blitzkov.

Doing 1/3 damage for 80%+ of the match feels terrible. Every single accidental hit or movement the Monster makes reverts his damage back to Trapper levels.

They honestly might need to make it tick up faster if they ever want to see him played again. That long of managing to be close range while not getting tapped is pretty much impossible once real Monster players start getting involved.

I understand they're on a crusade to make the Hunters shit and possibly kill their game, but the garbage Hunters need buffs even though they're rapid firing High Explosive N.E.R.F. rounds into crowds of their playerbase.

>>151256551
Don't you realize you are talking about a monster main? They are delusional as fuck.

>>151256659
Hank and jetpack recharge is getting nerfed next patch.
Also abes shotgun.

kraken is still 9 fucking levels of bullshit. he had a 90% ban rate in TOURNAMENT play, and he still hasn't gotten a nerf? Are you fucking serious.

>>151257361
Hes actually getting a buff.

>>151245608
Happened to Nosgoth too...

Rib in bebberonies ebolb :--DDDD

>>151201256

He's not great, but he can be viable.
He really benefits from a Sunny or a Hank.
As for perks I go regen/reload/reload
The extra 20hp per sec counteracts his nerf to a degree, and you really need all the help you can get in terms of survivability. Reload is self explanatory, as his spore cloud isn't even worth the time it takes to switch to it, just just spend 99% of your time on the leech gun and throw out a bug when the situation arises.
Good Krakens and Gorgons generally shit on him.

>>151256659
But anon, telemetry says Lazarus is the absolute best medic. :^)

Another day in pubs, another day with a Parnell who never uses super soldier or shoots the damn monster when I'm amping. Lost to a shitty wraith thanks to that.

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Will they ever fucking update their abilities so it matches what they really do. Almost everything they say Laz does is fucking lie. His weapon isn't silenced. His cloak doesn't actually hide you but reveals you instead. His device still fucking gives you ticks if you revive a dead player.

>>151245608
>DI:E
What's that?
>>151259783
But regen doesn't work after getting damaged, why not take move speed or jetpack?

>>151256551
too late, TRS will see this post and the vocal shittery and nerf Hank even more

>>151260449
>community wanted a better ability description so they know what it does
>TRS literally copied the text you see when pressing Esc to the ability window

I dont want to know that a gun goes pew pew and a healing beam heals you. I wanted fucking NUMBERS, ffs TRS

>>151261802
It doesn't matter what the numbers are, as long as they're higher than zero monster players will complain that hunters are OP, TRS pls nerf hunters they managed to hit me once and damaged my armor and it made me sad

So this cataclysm map seems god awful for monsters, how is it for hunters?
From what I've seen unfold cabot is by far the strongest assault ingame now.

"Hp regen perk for monster is a good option to add
Dont be mad hunter players
you have perks too bruh"

"hunters can t remove strikes
why should the monsters regen their hp"

"Hunters can by laz
Don't expect to see a full hp monster everytime"

Thanks Discord, for proving you don't know how to play the game

>next patch
Lazarus glove just let you revive instantly, instead of pressing E for painful seconds. But it gives strikes.
See? We fixed Lazarus.
t. TRS

>>151262264
Can't believe these people exist. I hope Evolve will be a case study in years to teach folks that retards should never ever be in charge of balance in a multiplayer game.

>>151260449
>expecting TRS to put actual effort in
Whoa son, we can't afford that kind of extravagance
Changing text descriptions means we'd have to forego an entire one hunter nerf to get the patch out on time, don't you know how game development works?

>>151262264
.... J-Jesus Christ almighty... is this for real?

>>151262915
You bet it is.

>>151263185
At the risk of exposing myself to fatal amounts of weapons-grade self-delusion... link?

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>some fag adds me to tell me the goliaths aren't tanky at all and in fact need health buffs

anyone want to grind babby coop mode together?

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>>151262264
So playing like a pussy is even more rewarding even though they can already regen their armor almost instantly. Whoever thought this was a good idea should be shot.

>>151263963
honestly they need to have their limbs torn off as slowly as possible

>>151263262
https://discord.gg/Evolve
I think this is it

Found this while looking for it though
• Got feedback or suggestions for Evolve?
https://talk.turtlerockstudios.com/c/suggestions

Probably has less traffic the a leper hooker with downs

>>151262440
>Lazarus glove now gives strike upon revival of incap or dead hunters, in exchange the pickup time for the glove is .5s, cooldown is reduced from 20 to 7 seconds

He'd actually be really fucking good if this happened.

>>151263708
What's your profile ?

>>151264779
I'd say he'd be worth it if it was that and no strikes. Keeping the strikes would just result in a team of cripples who die to a midly erect wind

>>151264779
I rather have Emet at that point who can just do a full team revive.

the reason behind the stupid co-op AI is apparently because its the tutorial AI to test co-op. thats the reason there is only Goliath monsters right now.
TRS might implant the normal AI or a better one next patch. right now this stupid monster dont run after dome fights, stops to kill animals that it doesn't eat and refuses to evolve.

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I'm new to hunters after 30hours of monstering; for my boy Crow I run efficiency, swap and jetpack recharge, right?

For actual gameplay send bird in one possible monster juke direction then run the other and stasis>rifle until reload>sasis>repeat?

Why isn't cabot a hunter?

>>151265131
>right now this stupid monster dont run after dome fights, stops to kill animals that it doesn't eat and refuses to evolve

Only if you constantly slow him (btw. I have seen worse monster player than the bot).
Love this mode. No more monster player, who either sucks or is an autist.

Now I can enjoy the surrounding and the gameplay. I hope this esports garbage will end. If I want a challenge, I challenge myself with other real life things than "challenging" some retarded kids on the internet.

>>151263708
>>151264834
I'm in too

what is the optimal team for burning through coop? I'm thinking either slim/cabot/abe/torvald or laz/cabot/abe/parnell.

>>151234806
give sauce

Welp, that's it folks I am finally giving up, the devs are beyond retarded. What is truly infuriating is that when this game reaches 200 players again, the devs are going to be blaming the concept of evolve instead of their incompetency. I am back to playing bethesda shit and indie games until Civilization VI comes out. It was nice knowing shitposting with you, cya in /fog/ in the meantime

>>151265606
>I can enjoy the surrounding and the gameplay.
The current state of the bot is not to have so much fun now ...

>>151265849
Who cares. For now it's imposible to lose.

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>>151266229
>he doesn't want to grind optimally/as fast as possible

>>151266462
>he doesn't want to grind
Yep, I played this shit no mode twice and I'm not going to lose more time, shitter.

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>>151266525
>gain ez fast keys and exp and level all the worthless characters not viable for actual hunt mode
>m-m-muh precious time

>>151266664
>Playing games in a boring way.
>Grind against the wall.
Get a job.
Shitter.

>>151266940
Get out, dumb normie.

>>151265414
He is though

>>151265849
I use the hunter I need to level up or hunters that would drag down the team performance in real hunts, like Lazarus or Tech Hank
thats all.

>>151266965
Yeah, a job.

>>151266940
>>151267057
>Because I don't like things, everyone can't like things.
Fuck off mate.

>>151267006
looks like it's bad idea to even play coop with /evog/

fucking stupid tryhard mentality even in coop mode as if hunter picks make a noticeable difference in braindead mode

>>151267074
That's a wrong fucking image upload oops

>>151267076
Seriously, do you like to play against this no AI monster? What the fuck...

>>151267246
Maybe, but you have to suck my dick to find out.

>>151267246
nobody likes it but it's not the point

it's not fun playing vs a shitty monster in regular hunt and it's even less fun fighting those 1k+ hour autists with retarded pub hunters

coop mode is just chill grind and you can play any hunter and still win easily

>>151260676

It doesn't? Well shit. probably jetpack efficiency then.

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>>151267158
if it's any consolation, I'd say it's a pretty alright image upload. You did well, anon-kun.

>>151267428
>>151267454
Ok, enjoy your grindfest... shitters.

>>151267724
Psssh...nothin personnel...kid...

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>coop mode skews winrate telemetry in hunter favor by a massive margin
>TRS nerfs hunters so far into the ground the only way they can win is against the retarded AI

I just remembered this little happening from the first week Stage 2 was live

>Monster leaves as we drop
>AI took control
>Lennox player says something like "Alright scan the AI is really difficult"
>I couldn't stop myself from saying "No they're not what" in a laughing tone
>He gets flustered and gets adamant about it
>I'm like nah brah they don't do anything
>He says "Alright fine whatever I'll just do this"

>Starts shooting the ground with the autocannon

The fuck? What is he even doing? Pouting at me like I care over the internet or something?

>Notice Monster HP bar slowly dropping
>We're just in the middle of the map, no monster nearby
>Starts fisting the air
>It dies
>He starts talking shit
>The whole time I'm like ???? what are you even on about autismo

I think I met the original hacker and didn't realize it until just now

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>>151268151
>coop mode skews winrate telemetry in hunter favor by a massive margin
>TRS nerfs hunters so far into the ground the only way they can win is against the retarded AI
TRS isn't that stupid, roit m8

>>151268151
normally one would just consider this a joke
with a dev team as retarded as TRS I am worried because of this

>>151268151
I could genuinely see them using the "data" from that mode to dilute their other TELEMETRY so they could fuck hunters even deeper into unplayable valley.

They'd really do it to I'm not even fucking around

>>151268151
>hmm hunters win 99% of the matches against the bot
>we have come up with a solution!
>we doubled the monster's damage output, gave it 100k HP and made it so that it spergs out at someone until they die if they get close to it
>enjoy these improvements, dedicated fans

>>151268586
There's a shitter literally saying Laz is fine in Steam discussions because he has 60% winrate. This is the kind of people TRS listens to.

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Are we fucking play videgame or what?

Join the chat and let's do some publosing together

>>151268297
Tripwire used telemetry to say demo did the most damage to justify it being good, forgetting details like "overkill damage" "heads have less health than bodies" and stuff.
By that point I fully believe trs to be equally or more incompetent than twi, so...

>>151268675
I hsve 100% with him. He's fine.

>>151268675
I have a 70% win rate with Laz but that doesn't mean he isn't shit.

>>151269036
Playing less the ten games which can easily get a 100% if that's the case Waggie is one of the best trapper who needs a nerf.

>>151269036
Yeah, I have a 100% winrate with torvald out of 4 matches, nerf please.

>>151269384
I think he was being sarcastic

>>151269384
just play co-op
many of my new characters have 100% win rate with over 50 games

constant shitting on Laz really gnaws on the credibility of /evog/'s opinion on things, even it's just two shitters and one of them is a monster maining retard

I mean these neckbeards even shat on Parnell and he's fine

>>151269683
>50 games
I feel bored only reading it.

>>151269781
>/evog/ is one person

>>151269868
then don't read it fag face

>>151269781
No, Parnell is terrible, second worst assault, buff pls.
Actually just buff all the assaults, they didn't get buffs when stage 2 buffed the monsters to be viable at stage one and only got nerfs since, they simply can't do meaningful damage before the first strike at stage one even with a tanky team if the monster is running any perks.

>>151269781
parnell is FUCKING GARBAGE compared to his pre-stage 2 version. Same with Laz and Waggie. Now I'm not saying parnell is bad currently, but the fact that all the assaults have had their damages toned down so much (except for markov who pretty much stayed the same from stage 1 > 2 which is part of the reason he's so good) is absolutely ridiculous.

Parnell got a 25% damage hit to his shotgun, a 40% hit to rocket damage, he lost his free reload speed from super soldier, he lost 15% of his free movement speed from super soldier, he lost his (minor) free weapon swap speed during SS.

Lennox used to deal 550 damage a punch on launch. before stage 2 came around she did 450 damage a punch which they confirmed was gonna be lowered a bit in exchange for removing the movement speed penalty on her plasma lance attacks. Her fucking autocannon did 55 damage a shot. almost the same damage as a single crow shot and could headshot before it was nerfed several times.

and the entire time that they're nerfing these hunters, they're straight buffing the monsters. I can't even play slim anymore after the nerfs they just did to capacity and weapon swap + his healing because he just feels like a shitty emet

>>151270842
The future of this game is hunters against retaded bot and monster against 4 retarded bots.

>>151271469
>The future of this game
you sound very optimistic

>>151271652
People are actually playing against the no IA bot.
It seems that this coop formula would work.

>>151199517
>Mortars are now two-stage rockets that fly directly upwards when torvald fires and after a delay they launch themselves at high speed to where he is currently aiming
>Shrapnel grenades are launched from mortar as an ability with a 5 second cooldown so you don't have to waste time pulling it out
>Shorty gains 1 damage per pellet for each hit landed with no pellets missing (reset after mag is empty)
That or just make him into a Parnell skin

>>151271897
Yea also judging from a lot of forum threads of monster only players whining and people saying laz is fine, a good percentage of the player base might be retarded

wait, so is the monster health regen already in, or are they just planning to add it?

>>151273570
the assets have existed since the original game (albino tyrant buff) so it's entirely possible that they could implement it. I would hope they aren't that retarded, but this is TRS.

>>151273570
no health regen for monster yet and they are not planning to add it, but give monster shitter enough time to cry very loud and we will see.
there will be monster passives, though. maybe one of them will be health regen, it wont surprise me

>>151272021
>Torvald gets double the amount of projectiles per shotgun blast that he currently gets
>Torvald murders weak points now, is now balanced and not trash
>Mortars remain basically only to make Monsters fuck off of bodies or corners

or

>Torvald's Mortars now have triple the previous movement speed (why do they move like they're made out of foam or something?)
>Torvald can now hit more mortars, Torvald is balanced

Hire me TRS I'll fix all your shit.

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/evog/ if you ever see; Frankenstein, Kainnemesis and toaster in a game, either dodge or start recording. Played against these guys twice now, first time I just thought they were good, I was playing GOliath only got 2 strikes and they killed me I thought it was just a close game, 2nd time I fucking stomped them both times I got domed, 2 striked on medic and support, 1 on assault. As soon as their medic went down in the 3rd dome their assault toggled and I died in 2 seconds flat with full armor and hp. They've all got 1000+ hours too.

>monster AI in co op doesn't use traversals to escape
>ignores people shooting at it to stop and kill shit and then walk away from it
>in the two games I played multiple people with 40+ winstreaks implying they actually grind this gamemode for whatever reason
Jesus how do people find that fun?