/kfg/ Killing Floor General

a l i v e

someone give me a rundown of today's stream please

>>151310515
>opt in beta tomorrow if all goes well
>demo gets pewpew rifle with GL
>SWAT is in (mp7, mp5, p90, Kriss, flashbang)
>Riot shield is being worked on for a later date
>more large zeds on higher difficulties
>albino crawlers and alpha clots
>chance of SC spawning on early waves
>some new animations and sounds and effects for players and zeds alike
that's what i remember

I'm anticipating this update, mainly because some perks might be unfucked now

>>151311017
>>151310515
Oh and Support can now repair broken doors. We almost KF1 now.

>>151310414
>While you have body armor, you only take Health damage from sonic attacks...
Isn't this a bad thing?

>>151312146
no

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The only thing I don't like is the new Medic, everything else sounds pretty great, really excited for it
SWAT is a bit underwhelming though, I expected more

>10th class isn't martial artist, katana going to berserker in the update
wew lads
why the fuck did they even keep it as non-perk weapon for so long

>>151311017
also random starting spawns

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>>151312689
>>151310414
>During Zed time, you move in real-time and have massive knockdown power when you run into a Zed.

Holy fuck. Imagine being totally pinned by nasties, getting zed time, then just plowing the fuck through the horde like a fucking train.

>>151311017
>M4 203 can be used with the RPG
>Hans can also dodge stuff now, also looked like it had lower HP

>>151312585
I don't remember how much attacks penetrates normally. I was thinking at pre wave 5 that perk would only make you wear your armor faster than necessary, making the perk just an extra expense. But i can definitely see how it's good against FPs and such.

So, Hans new evasion moves, he's just teleporting, or what? Hard to see.

>>151310075

So the FN P90 is out tomorrow with SWAT right? That's the thing I've been waiting ~2 years for.

>>151313721
yes, with red-dot sight

now all i need is FN FAL

This game is still updated and played? Thought it died in early access hell. Surprised to see it still around.

>>151313721
yes
>That's the thing I've been waiting ~2 years for.
but, damn, you need to brace for disappointment because that thing does not look especially interesting

>>151313985

If it's highly mobile, I can't care about the damage too much.

>>151313859
Large update tomorrow so yeah it's still getting updated. There's 1 more class coming out after SWAT and more maps coming as well.

The game lost of a lot of players when the devs took too long to add "new" stuff to the game. Basically it has taken too long for people to stay interested, but there's always an influx of players with every update. It's starting to come together nicely now.

>>151314138
See >>151310414

Use tactical movement and you'll scoot around like a madman in no time.

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>the zeds from Versus mode will also have a chance of spawning as buffed versions of normal enemies on Suicidal and HoE
>so far only the (normal) Clot, Crawler, and Bloat have alpha versions
>Hans can block and evade attacks
>Support's armor backpack gives 20 armor
>Commando's weapons had their sounds changed
>running animations were tweaked
>zed voices are being worked on, there are some of them in the new update already
>the Fleshpound and Bloat have "new sounds," not sure if that's just new sounds or voice lines

>SWAT's bonus XP is gained by killing Clots
>gets 30% perk damage bonus at max level
>gets 100% damage resistance (immunity) to bullet damage at max level
>gets 25% increased magazine size at max level
>player spawns will be randomizedso they don't always spawn in the same place
>MP7 is the starting weapon, then MP5 at tier 2, then P90 at tier 3, then the Kriss at tier 4
>Kriss weighs 6, MP5 weighs 4, P90 weighs 5, so you can carry them all at the same time
>there is a chance that Scrakes can spawn on wave 2
>SWAT has a fuckton of ammo
>Siren screams go straight through SWAT's armor even with the perk on
>the flashbang is able to stun Fleshpounds(?)

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Twitch VOD for anyone who missed it
/tripwireinteractive/v/82866875

>>151314938
and for those who just want a summary

http://steamcommunity.com/app/232090/discussions/0/360672047209736154/

>>151314443

Cool, I didn't mind "Stalker" in Modern Warfare 3, so that was what I was gonna pick anyway despite the armor being the obvious better solution. Being able to ADS constantly and zip around with the SMG's is my jam.

>>151313837

Awww... no iron sight option? :( I use iron sights on all guns.

>>151310414
I feel like Tactical Movement and Close Combat Training should switch spots. Because otherwise TM literally would never get selected by anyone.

>>151314138
>If it's highly mobile
it's basically not
equipped weapon, other than melees for berserker, don't affect movespeed in kf2
inventory weight affects movespeed, but only a bit, and p90 isn't particularly light, heavier than gunslinger's tier 3
SWAT has a shit skill to move regular speed when crouched or aiming, but nothing for moving faster than usual

>>151315213
There's no weapon customization. You'll have to live with the red dots.

>>151315213
>option
i don't think any weapons in kf2 have sight options

I prefer iron sights as well. If you spam the devs enough maybe they'll add options for it down the line, but i doubt it'll happen any time soon. MP5 has iron sights though, and it's looking sweet.

>>151315274
putting it up against tactical reload probably wouldn't be any better

>>151313696
He uses his jetpack thing

Anyone got webms of the new guns yet?

>>151310414
rapid assault sounds like a superior version of some existing zed time skills, unless they changed the old zed time skills too

>>151314848
>there is a chance that Scrakes can spawn on wave 2
seems like a shit idea

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Who /stoked/ here?

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>>151318774
>he thinks good things will happen

>>151318774
I'm a little excited, but not much more than that.

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>>151318774
>My man Support is back
I can't wait

>>151319375
Are they fixing what they did to the DB?

Pure combat medics report in

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>>151310414
The hour is upon us.

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>>151313195

I'm actually so hyped for that skill.
I actually think the other skill is the way better choice, but this just sounds so much more fun.

>Surrounded by grubs everywhere
>Suddenly zed time
>THRASHBALL MODE ACTIVATE

THE COLE TRAIN
RUNS ON WHOLE GRAIN
BABY
WHOOOOOOH

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Guy who uninstalled after the resistances crap here, have they removed them or at least heavily changed them since then? I don't need exact numbers, just a yes or no is fine.

I'm asking for spoonfeeding, I know, but I don't want to go through the news on Steam with the way Yoshiro writes

>>151321261
Yes, only Bloats are tanky now
And it actually made killing SCs and FPs easier.

>>151321261
>have they removed them
Nope.
>or at least heavily changed them
Kinda.

is KF2 saved?

>>151321426
>>151321457
That's good enough to me. Thanks guys, I'll download the game again to give it another try hearing this.

>>151321261
Almost everything with the resistances were reverted back. Pistol still feels weak against everything that isn't a crawler and cyst, gorefasts have higher head hp and bloats are insanely tanky. The shitty incap system is still in, so the old fun combos mostly don't work anymore.

>>151321261

The lesser aspects of the Resists still remain, but the old bullshit like:
>Crawlers having 70% fire damage resist
>Sirens surviving Pulv explosive hits
>Cysts surviving Zwei heavy hits
No longer exists.

Basically everything that made the game unbearable is gone.

>Katana moved to Zerk
>Katana now gets all of Zerk's buffs

Is it time for the anime uprising?

>>151323275
If they buff the damage just slightly it'll probably be on par with the pulverizer.

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>>151323275
Ninja class never

>>151323275
>Lightning fast Katana for trash
>Pulv for business
It'll be like the old days again, if only we had the Hand Axe

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>>151323275

>>151320275
PLEASE PLAY WITH ME, FILIAPOSTER

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>>151323275
Yes!

Did they say anything about offperk weapons getting perk bonuses for using the same type of arsenal? Like Support using Trench Gun or Commando using Medic AR.

>>151324940
Not a thing right now, but maybe later

So, is KF2 saved?

>>151323275
So what will MA be now?
Electric+Freeze weapons?

>>151328062
No. When they fully get rid of resistances and knockback we can start discussing that.

>>151328365
Hasnt knockback been pretty much reduced to big guys know? Seems more than reasonable that a scrake can slap you a couple meters out of his face

>>151328574
Some attacks still do but it's not as common as before, mostly "heavy" Zed attacks

>>151328759
Guess i've been lucky enough to dodge those

>>151328228
I doubt it will even be Martial Artist. They're not even referring to it by name anymore, they're just saying the 10th perk "isn't what we think it is."
So I'm inclined to believe it will be a new perk altogether. And I've got a pretty decent lead on what it might be.
Remember that so far all the new perks have just been splits from the old ones.
KF1 Medic became KF2 Medic and SWAT.
KF1 Sharpshooter became KF2 Sharpshooter and Gunslinger.
KF1 Berserker was going to be KF2 Berserker and Martial Artist before (presumably) they changed that, or it could possibly still be Martial Artist but it won't be based off of anything from KF1.

So that leaves us with 5 perks that they could split in two.
Commando is practically the same as its KF1 counterpart.
Support is practically the same aside from the lack of shotgun variety, but that will be addressed with post-release content.
Firebug is the same; that is to say, useless and a waste of space.
Demolitions lost its pipebombs and will presumably never get the M32 back. Pipebombs were replaced by C4 of course but they don't act nearly the same.
Toxic is an underused weapon type and they're trying to get Medic and Demolitions to make some use of it, but currently they're both pretty limited (Medic's toxic damage is utter trash, Nuke only works in zed time.)
So I'm inclined to believe Demolitions will be split in 2. Demolitions as we know it know will remain a single-fire, spike damage/low DPS damage dealer, while a new perk will be created that can fire multiple rounds at once and possibly lay down traps/explosives that blow up on their own.

So, my educated guess is that the perk will be something along the lines of a Trapkeeper.
It would probably be a support/damage dealer, like SWAT. It will get its damage done with DoT and has crowd control for zeds such as panic and knockdown. Its top tier will probably be a grenade launcher that shoots either mines or grenades with a toxic area of effect to them.

>>151329410
Furthermore, my "evidence" to support this is just trends.
KF1 Demo had 7 perk gun if you don't count pipebombs (because they're not really a gun.) Out of those 7, 4 had magazines, and 3 of them let you fire multiple explosives in a row without needing to reload.
KF2 Demo will have 5 weapons soon, of which only 1 has a magazine but doesn't let you fire multiple explosives in a row.

Pipebombs worked as a trap that blow up autonomously, while there's nothing in KF2 that blows up/deal damage "on its own" other than door traps. I might add I think that skill will also be moved to Trapkeeper eventually.
The Seal Squeal kind of worked as an explosive that stuck to walls. I'd imagine Trapkeeper's tier 3 would basically be an evolution of that; it shoots toxic grenades that blow up when zeds come close enough to it.

>>151329410

I'm not even sure why they would do Martial Artist when Berserker is nearly that. Just let Berserker have a tier in perks where they unequip weapons and have a benefit just punching Zeds in the face. BOOM, there's your Martial Artist class.

>>151328365
>fully get rid of resistances
KF2 has always had some resistances; and they were pretty much fine before bullseye overdid them.
To remove them all would be to just overdo it in the other direction, several of them do have good reason and should be kept.

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>MA has been canceled
DAMMIT, NOW WHAT HAVE I GOT TO LOOK FORWARD TO AND GET DISAPPOINTED LATER BY?

>>151331886
Just revert the resistances to pre-"resistances"-resistances then.

>>151332320
and demo is back to having a "kick me at the final trader time" sign on his back

>>151332284
The final release?

>>151332320
They just have to tone it down on Gorefasts, Bloats and Sirens, maybe Crawlers

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>>151329410
>Firebug is the same; that is to say, useless and a waste of space.
lying is a sin, anon

Anyway, i think MA is out of the picture, but a trapper class sounds lame. Maybe a CBRN soldier class thing is what awaits us? Or a mix of that and some RA2 shit?

>Acid blaster
>Tesla gun
>Rad cannon
>Dirty bombs as grenades
>Shockwave gun

the final release is after this beta branch is done

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>SWAT perk
>No Benelli Nova
>No shotguns at all
>no riot shield

>>151333005
>Source: my ass

do resource boosters increase the number of tracers you get? I think that would explain why I'm getting so many

>>151333124
And its a fine ass

>>151333032
>riot shield is being worked on
>what is support
calm down, anime

>>151333201
No pics no proof

>>151332460
Jesus Christ, do I need to make 50 asterisks for every tiny change that was actually good?
Okay, here we go:
Remove damage type Ballistic_Submachinegun or set it to x1.0 for all zeds except the Fleshpound who should have a x0.5 modifier to it.
Remove damage type Ballistic_AssaultRifle or set it to x1.0 for all zeds except the Fleshpound who should have a x0.5 modifier to it.
Remove damage type Ballistic_Rifle or set it to x1.0 for all zeds except the Fleshpound who should have a x0.5 modifier to it.
Remove damage type Ballistic_Handgun or set it to x1.0 for all zeds except the Fleshpound who should have a x0.5 modifier to it.
Remove damage type Ballistic_Shotgun or set it to x1.0 for all zeds except the Fleshpound who should have a x0.5 modifier.
Remove damage type Ballistic_Submachinegun or set it to x1.0 for all zeds except the Fleshpound who should have a x0.5 modifier.
Set Slashing, Slashing_Knife, Piercing, and Bludgeon to x1.0 for all zeds except the Fleshpound who should have a x0.5 modifier.
Set Fire to x1.0 for all zeds except the Husk and Fleshpound who should have a x0.1 and x0.5 modifier, respectively.
Set Microwave to x0.35 the Clots, Crawler, and Stalker, x1.0 for all other zeds.
Set Hans and Patriarch's resistances to x1.0 across the board except x0.1 Toxic for Hans and rebalance their HP/damage where needed.

>>151332689
>a trapper class sounds lame
So does a SWAT class that uses only SMGs and has recycled boring stat boosts with little to no unique abilities whatsoever, but that didn't stop Tripwire.
I'd rather have something boring and unique and different than a copypaste perk.
>CBRN soldier class thing is what awaits us?
I want to say "doesn't sound like it would fit the theme of the game" but that went out the window long ago.
I don't like the idea nonetheless.

>>151333724
Man you're no fun at all.

>MA is probably dead
I want my money back.

>>151335110
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>>151310075
>SWAT opt in beta TOMORROW >probably

>>151335867
?

>>151333125
oh fuck I just realized what thread I'm in, ooops

>>151337227
He's throwing dosh you doofus

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Well its been fun seeing you again for a few hours /kfg/, i'll see you back in the grave by morning.

If you stay alive until the big probably beta tomorrow, maybe we'll have a reason to unironically play and keep this boat afloat.

>>151337452
forgive me father for my idiocy it has been many moons since I last played

>>151337725
I can't say I blame you, we need to adjust our memes

>>151336809
Yeah sorry about that, fork-chan. I should have said unless there's an unexpected problem

stay strong, stay tuned

>>151337267
yeah i was wondering what that was all about

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>will never play on a ranked 64-player full server on meme maps with /kfg/

>>151338964
>Implying we even have 64 regulars

>>151339293
>/kf2g/ steam group has 720 people
>only ~10 people usually in group chat
>even less actually playing kf2
It's a bit optimistic but a lot more people will start playing for the opt-in or official update when people see the kf2 banner has changed again, just depends how long the hype will last or if people even bother to come back.
No one's going to play if they already have all perks maxed and achievements unlocked unless they like to play with pubs.

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>all these changes

>>151341057
>craving cock more than usual
>kf2 updates tomorrow
feeling fine

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So now that Demo is getting his 5th weapon, name one wepon for each class you want the to add in post-post-post release

you're all shit

>>151341684
>Zerk - Fire Axe
>Commando - FAL or Galil
>Support - HSG-1
>Firebug - Flare Revolver so I can off-perk them
>Demo - FUCKING M32
>Gunslinger - MK23
Don't care about the rest

FIGHTING FIT

>>151341684
>Berserker
Dool wheel weapons for fun or a spear
>Commando
An MG42 or M60
>Support
KSG/HSG
>Medic
Medic sniper rifle
>Firebug
Flare revolver
>Demo
M32 or a shotgun with frag rounds
>Gunslinger
VP70 or LeMat revolver
>Sharpshooter
Maybe a unique pistol
>SWAT
MP40 or Thompson

No new character?

>>151346448
they gave us RAE and a new HORZINE SUPER SUIT
what more do you want

>>151346825
Mrs. Foster

>>151346448
Just Agent Wilkes armor

>>151346894
Coming post-release for $9.99

>>151341520
you're my kinda guy

It'd be cool if when you freeze and shatter alpha crawler it wouldn't explode into a gas cloud

>>151351423
I agree. Go tell TWI

>KF2 update while TI6 is on
Well fuck you too, Tripwire.

>>151352013
TIwho?

Hue hue kfg is back from the dead for a few days.

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>>151353496
>tfw you're making a map but will need to wait until /kfg/ is in a non-dead spell to actually post it whenever it's done

>>151353632
It's actually a bit sad that good game like kf2 is dying. Sure twi fucked up here and there, but they trying to fix this. Hope is only that game will rise at least to stable 4-5k online after release.

>>151354012
I thought even KF1 averaged 2k-3k during its peak

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>>151354012
I still think they'd have fared better if they hadn't blown their load with EA, I get that the "instant massive cash injection" is probably too tempting to ignore, but it would've worked better if they'd have just got it to all ther perks and then released. THEN they could've just done/tested any tweaks with the beta system, something they're already (redundantly) using while still in EA.

>>151352928
No, TI6.

>>151353632
Make it not dead by posting some screenshots.

>>151354526
I don't like teasing things because I have a fucking horrible work ethic that means I might put a random 10 straight hours into the map one day and then never touch it for 3 weeks and shit like that, or work on it every day for a week and then literally forget it exists for a month.

Tripwire actually looking like they might be starting to unfuck the game is making me want to work on it more consistently, though.

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New 10th perk speculations, boys?
Now that MA is scrapped.

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Will support be useful again?

>>151355703
Shieldbearer
Literally a guy that can buy different shields and do some shield-related activities
Gibson decided this when the riot-shield shitposters got too intense

>>151355949
>50% more ammo
>Can fix doors
>Extra weight is finally a passive
>Supplier is a passive too
>30% extra damage on top of the passive 25%
>Damage fall off gone, Tight Choke skill takes full advantage of this
>Other players can also get 20% armor, AND you get extra 20% ammo yourself on top of your passive
>Real-Time ZT shooting
Hell yeah buddy, current Supp can already solo FPs and SCs if done correctly, now imagine with these buffs

>>151355949
yes

So what is the new bullshit that will TWI throw in with the next update? You don't expect it to be only good things, right?

Do we still not have KF2 Modding Tools?
What are they afraid of? The community balancing and fixing the game and doing a better job than they ever could?

>>151356654
>new trader UI still makes you sell or buy the wrong weapon at times

I would be pretty fucking mad.

>>151356654
Medic, Albino Zeds (Bloat leaving mines on death, Crawler exploding in gas), early waves Scrakes

>>151356802
You mean the SDK?

>>151356868
to be fair all the perks got a good buff with the update

>>151356654
spawning in locations that you can't escape from

>>151352013
>being a dotard

>>151355703
Some class with custom home-made improvised guns, kinda like some of Zerk's weapons but for mid-range

>>151356654
auto-upgrade button fucking something up

>>151356802
SDK has been available since day 1, shitposter-kun

>>151357695
>try auto-upgrade
>it fills the weapons you have and sells them
>leaving you without money to buy next tier
>you have 9mm and grenades for next round

>>151357839
yeah, something like this. Or just generally failing at math and wasting your money

>>151357839
this would actually happen

>>151357834
My mistake I've never noticed.
Can you only make maps or does it do the whole shebang?

>>151358121
You can do a lot of shit, rebalance mods have been a thing for a while now

>>151358121
the whole bazooper, you might have also missed the entire steam workshop

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>>151357839
>Autoupgrade
Why would you waste money on a weapon that isn't the part of your final loadout.

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>>151358269
Damn Dude, will definitely look into it now.
>>151358318
desu haven't played kf2 in a long time, was waiting for release but looks like I might hop back in.

>>151358842
We don't want you, we prefer to be dead.

>>151358396
To cruise control yourself to the next tier, although i can already see 100 ways it could fail since loadouts usually mix different tiers including offperk weapons
>have tier 1, want to ADD tier 2 to your loadout
>it sells 1, buys 2
or
>have tier 1 perk weapon, tier 2 offperk
>it sells everything and buys tier 3 perk weapon

>>151358895
ty senpai

>>151358987
I forgot people on hard have dosh to waste.

>>151359095
you got me

>>151359095
there's dosh to waste on every difficulty past wave 2 or 3

>>151359318
So you're fully loaded after wave 2 or 3?

I don't know why I'm replying to this shit.

>>151359318
>playing short length games

>>151359735
Pretty much, after 3 I always have enough to get $ even on HoE. It's only Support and Demo that seem to struggle with cash

>>151314848
>>Siren screams go straight through SWAT's armor even with the perk on
The perk actually means that ONLY siren screams go through your armor, nothing else.

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>go SWAT
>take movement perk
>crouch
>get max level medic friend to hit you with a dart with every speed boost possible

Will it finally be possible to go in sneaky beaky like?

oooohhh shiiieet i can discuss kf2 on 4chan now

>>151361640
we've always been here, friendo
we just die for weeks at a time sometimes

>>151361640
t. meme stealing redditor

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Bolt-action for Sharpie when?

>>151361925
Never
>the community doesn't want any more crossovers

>>151311017
>SWAT is in without shield

So what's their use until then? Like weaker Commandos?

>>151362424
Does not have anything to do with crossovers

>>151319375
Where the fuck have you been the past year? Support has consistently been one of the better perks, and I can't even remember a time when I couldn't top the HoE scoreboard with it.

Do you actually play the game?

>>151329410
>And I've got a pretty decent lead on what it might be
sure you do

>>151340232
Tbh a lot of people probably don't go to the steam chat because there's literally 0 reason to. The people in here don't play the game so what the fuck is it good for?

>>151346825
Someone who isn't utter garbage

dam senpai can't wait for new update.

I really try to give /vg/ and by this i mean /kfg/ a chance but you guys are just total fucking turds. Most of you niggers plainly admit to not play the game and spout stupid shit like "oh i havn't played in 6 month is it worth playing now????" or "no one's playing this dead game if they maxed out achievements" and that's fucking retarded. Ever since TWI started to get its shit slightly together after the resistance debacle, the game has been really fun and alive. I play 4 hours a day and I can tell you the game is actually well balanced and good as it is right now. There's just the railgun that's a bit too OP but that's it.

No, support is not and has not been shit for a long fucking time. It's a really fucking solid trash and medium clearing perk. You can also save yourself from a big one if the team lets it through.

No, firebug is not shit at all atm. Shrapnel isn't as OP as it used to be but it still clears out big crowds. Firepanic actually is a huge credit to the team as it disables sirens for your zerk to charge in, or for you to kill her. You can easily hold a whole lane for yourself.

Demo is actually very strong right now you'd know that if you played the fucking game. It clears trash better than anyone with the m79 explosives, as well as dud headshots on sirens/husks/bloats even gorefasts if need to, and it absolutely fucks up scrakes with RPG dud. Fleshpound as usual doesn't like getting blown up much.

Some niggers still pretending zerk is shit? Go in the game and play a few HoE game. You'll see better players than you use the evisc to fucking eat scrakes and fleshpounds like they're candy.

Sharpshooter is sort of OP with his railgun and people are getting tired of it, I play more and more HoE with no railgun at all. Sadly, we see even less m14, it's been weeks since i've heard one.

tl;dr you are a bunch of bitter dumbasses who should really stop coming to these threads to spread misinformation without playing the god damn game.

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>>151357839
>try auto-upgrade
>it fills the weapons you have and sells them

I am 100% ready and waiting for this to happen.

>>151364547
>930 in-game
>~4,000 for updates, even more if it's a free weekend
>mostly normal/hard servers are filled
>maybe 1 VS game
>"the game has been really fun and alive"
>clinging to a dead game with no content when you've already completed it.
>writing an essay to say shit perks aren't as shit as people say
>not mentioning medic, commando, gunslinger because they're actually balanced

>>151365376
My point is people like you are bound to exist but why do you even come to the general? You don't play the game, you don't know what's going on and you don't care, so what's the point of coming here? I was told /vg/ was a shithole but I don't understand why you make it so.

>>151365508
Never said I didn't play, there's just no reason to play as often as I used to because the game is stagnant.
You don't need to constantly play the game if you already know what its been like since the last update.
Literally nothing changes between content packs except a few bug fixes or live updates that change 1-2 values that really weren't that important in the first place.
/kfg/ isn't nearly as bad as the rest of /vg/'s general.

>>151366059
Nah, it's not a stagnant. Development of the product that complex like a videogame is a very slow process. Newbies and normies just get acquainted with that fact now thanks to all those early acsess games that stay in early for whole years.

>>151364547
shut up white bitch

>>151366426
Some games like AC that come up every year are being developed by a few fucking different studios with an actually thousands people in them. Does TWI and all that small companies have thousands of people to make games fast'n'cool? They haven't, and the EA is the way for you to support their slow development, not bitching about long development for a year. Why did people even try to play a product that is not finished yet if they don't understand how it works? Wait for full release like a normie human bean, play different games and do other stuff.

>>151366059
The game is stagnant? What does that mean? Do you need new content to enjoy a game? I played css for 6000 hours just constantly the same 50 maps with the same community. We don't need new stuff is the game is fun and good.

Which KF2 truly is atm. I like new content too but that's just a bonus added onto a solid game.

It all boils down to this. If you need a reason to play the game you probably just don't like it.

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Where is muh beta branch

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>>151369683
Stay tuned! About 8 hours, assuming TWI doesn't fuck something up.

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Okay so what is the significance of playing Gunslinger or Commando over SWAT outside of a little tankyness?

Better yet, what is the significance of playing those two if SWAT is tanky and has stumble? The Twitch stream made it look like SWAT could hold his own pretty well and he has more ammo to boot I think.

>>151370763
Gunslinger for big zed killing
Commando for removing all trash from a sightline

SWAT is going to be a tank like Berserker, we don't know how much dmg his weapons have, but it's safest to say his high firerate, big mags, and tankiness is a ranged equivalent to Zerk bodyblocking

SWAT/COM will probably be the new non-sharp scrake combo

>>151370763
SWAT is weaker Commando with bigger magazines and more ammo.
Unless for some reason they make SMGs do more damage than ARs
Pretty much firebug with bullets.

>>151370946

Seems kinda pointless to have. Another flavor of Firebug/Commando. I would've preferred if SWATs abilities were better at controlling ZEDs and their pathing instead.

An actual aggro class outside of Zerker and less focus on offense and more on defense.

I heard they might do a perk wipe during EA, what are the chances of that happening?/

>>151371316
>A note from the PC Gaming Show at E3: we will NOT, repeat NOT, being wiping stats and achievements during Early Access or at any time, so go get 'em!”
From the store page

>>151371053
TWI can't control the zed pathing, what makes you think they can make a perk that can?

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>>151370946
>Pretty much firebug with bullets.

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>>151371572

Alright everyone, let's do a luck test.
Take a coin, flip it.
If heads, the update will come out today.
If tails, it won't.
Post results.

>>151373084
Tails.

>>151371653
Less stupid fiery bullshit covering the screen and halving the framerate.

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>M4 M203 + RPG is viable
Yes, the fire rises

Can you guys just keep the thread updated in the next 3 hours, wether or not the beta is ready will determinate if I leave work at 16 today or tomorrow.

thanks

Infernal Realms looked impressive the few first times I played on it as a gimmicky map and that was gfine, it's what custom maps are.

What the fuck are they thinking putting it in the main game? I has nothing to do in there it's a fucking fantasy map with purple fire skull torches lamps and lava pools. What's next? Helm's Deep? Heaven's Gate?

Why can't they make a fucking map themselves like they used to, evac point is amazing, manor is fucking glorious, you can't just stop working and cashing in on the modder's work TWI you fucking assholes reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>151373504
missing out on 20 40mms compared to m79, though

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>>151374816
Do people in low diff actually play this map? I've been on it 3 times in total over the course of a year.

>>151374816
Museum isn't even officially in the game, why did they think putting it on the workshop would get people to play it when most servers only have stock maps?
Containment station is a joke compared to every other official map.

>>151375130
Museum? What about museum, you lost me.

>>151375234
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=674148429
One of their guys made a map with reused assets and put it on the workshop instead of just adding it to the main game officially.
It's not bad but i've only played it once on a VS server because no other servers have it.

Where are the patch notes?

>>151374816
>>151375026
What's wrong with infernal realm other than "muh theme?" Is it actually a bad map to play on?

>>151375408
Museum is a pretty subpar map as far as KF2 custom maps go (not including all the generic box 'defense' maps)
It lacked a lot of the clutter and debris found in official and better custom maps.
It's layout was simple, larger exhibit rooms connected by corridors. The overall small size of the map and lack of alternate path options made it a pretty dull map sadly.
I run a (HoE) server, so I try to keep in touch with players to see what maps they like and which they don't.
Museum was removed the same day it was added, it was unimpressive at best.

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>Finally get to unleash the katana's true potential
I've been waiting since day one for this

>>151374816
>evac point is amazing
They didn't make that map.

>>151376579
The theme is the best part of infernal realm, and is what I think makes it worthy of being an official map. The level design as far as playable areas are concerned is pretty basic, but offers enough disparity between its different sections for them all to feel unique as locations and zed defense areas.
My only real complaint with the map is the lack of clutter, debris and furniture along paths and in rooms. Playable areas feel a bit barren and underwhelming when they're all plain stone floor, even when they're surrounded on all sides by impressive scenery

>>151377460
Who, then?

>>151378619

He's talking shit.
It's one of their maps.

>>151376579
It's really nothing special. You've got some platforms and stuff, but meh. The theme is cool for a moment I guess but it's not KF2's theme.

I actually like it as a custom map and thing it's cool to have a random fantasy themed map, same way I like Bikini Atoll but I really wouldn't put it in the official game.

I can't find any source on my claim, but I could have fucking sworn it was a community map that Tripwire did some finishing touches to and then added to the game.
I guess I'll take it back since I don't find any proof of it.

>>151376882
This, Museum really looks like a cheap custom map made by some guy who only knows basic SDK use. (no custom models or textures, no details on anything, copy-pasted room and surfaces, not really any cool spot or look to it, nothing but square angle room and pre-made staircase meshes, flat ground, etc.

Infernal Realm is better, I like it. I'd rather them making a map themselves than making it official though.

>>151380594

I know what you mean. Infernal Realms is a cool map, but anyone hoping for KF_Hell v2 is going to be kind of disappointed.
I'll enjoyed playing Infernal though because I'm very superstitious and the distinct discomfort I feel from playing in such a demonic environment will add to the immersion.
Fugg I kind of wish Infernal was never made official because KF_Hell creeped the Hell out of me and I was hoping I'd never have to back and fight in a nightmare like that again. I should've known better.


Bikini Atoll is my fucking jam tho.

>>151377460
If that's true I'd be surprised. It's really detailed/well designed and has a lot of original stuff like the boat, escalator, the hazmat equipment, the barbed fences, everything inside the hotel, etc. All of this were brand new models and textures.

Then again, nothing('s impossible, some randome /vg/ shitposter made Nuked and it's easily TWI level.

Talking about nuked, why the fuck do I keep running into a version of the map where there's no scaffolding leading up to the bridge? Every time I do, the team wipes at wave 3 at best. Are there two different nuked or what?

>>151381192
is the beta out yet? 30min till I decide when to leave work. It's important.

>>151381362

Let's put this way Mister.
I'm in NZ.
It is just about 1:30 morning.
Usually, TW WWAUTs and Updates don't come to me until about 8am - 11am.
If TW keep to their usual time methods or whatever, this shit won't be out for another six or so hours.

Go to work and earn a living you goober.

>>151381535

Mang I type like shit at 1:30 in the morning.

>>151381535
fugg
i'll trust you

>>151381535
Does NZ play KF2? If yes, how many of you?

>>151381806

Yeah off you go.
Don't worry about it.
If I'm right, you'll be off making some paper while doing something productive and my wise counsel helped you to it.
If I'm wrong, I'll get to laugh at the goober who went to work while I wake up to blast grubs.
So no matter what happens, it all works out.

>>151381932

I do, my younger brother back home plays it very casually, and some weeb from Bay of Plenty.
Literally the only NZers I know that play KF2, so 99% of my time is playing in Aus servers.

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>>151383107

>"community wants no more crossovers"

This seems wrong but I'm glad they're thinking that way. Crossover shite is awful, especially if they're going to end up going to PAYDAY or some bullshit.

>>151376882
Do you rent or do you host your server?

>>151383528
I host it on my PC, seems like a lot less effort than renting a server.

>>151383107
Hey hey, that guys actually p cool. We used to play on suicidal custom servers together alot. We still talk, dude is actually p chill

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>>151383760
Onice, whats your server name and location? Might hop in today or some time

Seems like the server browser is STILL broken. Even with no filters enabled it shows 0 servers.
Anyone else had this happen to them? How do I fix it?

>>151383951
It's an Aus server, the names Chiefs Hopeless Zedpocalypse (pls no bully, I'm terrible at naming things)
Most of the time I run HoE, and sometimes with the half life zeds mut.
It's not up at the moment but whenever the beta goes live I'll be update and run it again.

>>151383951

Ignore this guy >>151384880

He's a 100% goober, can't play to save his own life.
If you are gonna play with him, you better have a sturdy back and big strong arms, because you will be carrying. He's like a little baby.

>>151385010
I don't play to save my own life, I play to save the lives of shitters like you.
The only way I'm like a baby is that I'm light and hard to hit, as a Zerk should be.

>>151385469

Whoa buddy, settle down before I call Triple 0.
Literally nothing but my generous patronage allows you to take more than a single step without being 1-hit KO'd by a cyst. That I even deign to set foot in your grubby server should be considered an incredible honour for which you would receive me with exuberant exaltation. You should be grateful.

Go calm down and get yourself some Burger King- oh wait, I mean, "Hungry Jacks".

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Nothing new.
Just let it die.

what the fuck's going on here

>>151386368

Some Ausfailian is being taught some valuable life lessons by a random and completely unrelated passerby who is currently up at 3am waiting for his dumb bitch flatmate to get home because she forgot her key and he has to open the door for her because if her boyfriend catches her coming home this late he's gonna start asking some difficult questions that I will have to answer with complete lies because I ain't getting kicked out of my flat over an illicit encounter or two or four.

Also we're staying tuned for the fucking update.

>>151386007
That's bannable offense talk right there friendo, if I catch bants like that flying my server you'll be banned so fast you'll think you've been hit by a second emu war localised entirely within your kf2 experience.

>>151386846

You're lucky that that line of cheeky banter was sufficiently handled and invoked a good chuckle out of me, or I would've ordered the very skies over you head to descend upon you with lightning and thunder to destroy your wretched life for that moment of thoughtless insolence, it is well within my power.

>3:18am
>I'm still up
>The update comes tomorrow morning and I'm still up
>This bitch calls me a minute ago saying she's only just hit the motorway
>Other flatmate will be getting up for his 5am run soon

Well, good day/night /kfg/
Let's hope today won't be turrible for all of us.

>>151387079
>I would've ordered the very skies over you head
>you head
>you

Usually I don't stoop to the level of correcting grammar, as I believe it's up to each individual to review and rectify their own mistakes.
However I feel in the case of some smug uppity pub shitter making lofty claims of descending upon with me with lightning and thunder, it is appropriate to point out.

You'd think it would be well within your power to shitpost and maintain basic levels of grammar at the same time.

>>151388428

>Lowly Aus peasant expecting me to even bother with proper grammar at 3am when dictating toward such a trivial and irrelevant insect such as he

You are truly amusing. I am glad I decided not to bring utter ruin to your little baby soul.

>>151388608
The only thing being brought to ruin around here is kf2, seeing how it's infested with smart-mouthed, no-skill scrubs like yourself.
Maybe TWI will base a new zed off your innate ability to spew utter shit every time you open your mouth.
Think of a brown bloat, that vomits feces instead of puke, couple it with a sirens ability to scream and send excrement flying, and we've immortalised you in KF2 form shitposter-kun

>>151366836
>Why did people even try to play a product that is not finished yet if they don't understand how it works?
Because they said projected end goal was 6 months
Then November
Then end of year
Then some time after new years
No one knew it'd be 16months and still not done

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>>151311017
What's the point of swat?

Are they really trying to make a class around SMGs?
How laughable is the flash grenade?
How long til they nerf these actually useful perk so they can become bullshit % bonuses like the other classes?

>>151392121
>Are they really trying to make a class around SMGs?
Well, that's what Medic was in KF1. Admittedly it had healing, but still.
>How laughable is the flash grenade?
Apparently (not confirmed) it can stun Fleshpounds.

>>151392121
>How laughable is the flash grenade?
It stunned a 6p Sui Fleshpound on the stream, kind of like the old Demo nades
Didn't blind the player either

Hey, let's not have the thread die just yet.

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>>151361925
literally impossible, they don't have the time

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Where's the beta reeeee

Update when?

IT'S OUT

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be honest kfg, you enjoy getting cucked, don't you?

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>>151397626

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>>151397902
I can shut their mouth for you~

>>151398583
that would be nice of you, thanks

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>>151398720
aight mate it would be fun

>>151398849
enjoy

>>151397729
>>151398583
>>151398849
What the fuck is wrong with those animes

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>>151399078
What do you mean by wrong?

>>151399078
it's the pleasure of being collapsing in on yourself

I cant find a single server, what's up? no beta yet

>>151399078
Some newbie who start watch mangos want to say that he's in family now.

>>151399985
I get that all the time, just have to wait 10min usually

>>151399985
Chek yout filter options. It's fucked up sometimes.

>>151313195
Why the fuck didn't zerk get this.

>>151400423
cause zerk has a small penis y'know. he's more about ninja shit with swords and runaway dodges.
swat in the other side is a big serious guy who don't need swords, he literally fuck zeds with his bear hands.

>>151400791
>with his bear hands.
*dumping huge mags from three guns

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>>151401249

>>151401249
The power of a third limb.

With the abortion of MA, will we see Zerk gaining the ability to deal more damage from behind to zeds again?

>>151401249
>huge mags
will be
mp7 40, mp5 30, p90 50, kriss 33
I think, base value, then gradually up to double those with the passive

mp7 is gonna be OP as hell for a tier 1 unless the damage is even lower than medsmg

>>151401435
I'm ashamed that I didn't figure out how to get that N.E.E.T. skin I saw, for my enforcer helmet,
even if that's only clientside.

>>151402230

I'm the guy who made it. What do you need help with?

>>151401964
It should be 2bh, 4.6x30 of AP doesn't seem like a great crowd control weapon

>>151402368
Thanks for asking, though I don't remember what the initial problem I had was. After that, I thought it was completely taken down, but now I'm seeing that you have a nonsteam download.
Let me give it another try now and see if I'm not too dumb today.

>opt-in beta patch
>for early access game
>beta of a beta

wew ebin

>>151402368
The instructions worked fine for me now, thanks again.

>>151404581
It's pretty sweet right?

>>151405284

No problemo.

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Now if only there were a serious professional, but cute, character.

IT'S OUT FOR REAL THIS TIME
RESTART STEAM

>>151405710
I'm holding out for an edgy prick character. About as likely as getting Insult Players back, though.

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>>151405918
ITS REAL RESTART

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>>151405918
>It's real

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>>151406064
>>151405918
it's seriously actually real

IT'S TIME

REV UP THAT DOSH

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>5.8 GB

>>151405918
>>151406064
6 gig download, huh. Actually legit.
http://steamcommunity.com/games/232090/announcements/detail/959650850589500948

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>5.8 Gb

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blessed we are

>>151406006
Cyberbullying is a crime, anon.
Tripwire is going to have to have a talk with your mother.

Imagine finishing the download, only for the game to suddenly patch again and TripWire posting "Oops, we found a critical bug. Stay tuned!"

>>151407265
I should have known TWI were necromancers.

>>151407268
a 7gb critical bug

>>151407268
imagine the swat class being fucking boring as shit

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5,8 gigs

>>151407534
that's fucking nothing, desu

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how do i change the sirens sound effect? Sick off that annoying screaming

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>>151407867
It took me fucking 10 minutes.. I almost died waiting!

>>151407338
They have lots of experience with kf2 dying every couple months.

>update fucked up all my mods
chicaNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>>151407869
it's supposed to be annoying, mate

>>151408325
Well they can tell her all about my online bullying so long as they also tell her we miss her.

But seriously, an edgy prick character would be a good option, though fosty and classic masterson are usually standoffish enough for me.

>>151408527
>not having a back up folder already prepared
do you even early access

5,8GB

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supersanic stalker+crawler attack confirmed

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>>151409490
no, qt swat girl is better

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All around me are familiar faces

>AA12
>Damage reduced to 140 (was 175)
Support gets shitted on again

>>151410240
Might be worth it to pick up a Kriss as a CIWS for those fuckers

>>151411263
>I still have 3 hours and 30 minutes of waiting to download the entire game again with my shit internet
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>151411490
What the fuck.

>>151411490
>increased ammo pool
>perks that boost his dmg quite noticable
It still kicks like a mule.

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>>151410240

>SC/FP head HP is now barely less than body HP
We're now fully in magdump meta, no point in solo skill kills.

>kriss vector getting added for swat

fuck yea

can finally use my waifu

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Anyone have experiencing updating ur server to the preview version?

>>151412689
app_update 232130 - preview

>Disk write error

Wtf? My HDD is fine and all my games run fine. I can't even find a solution off of google that works.

>>151412369
ah, I was wondering what this big update's obligatory colossal fuckup would be

>update has been out for an hour
>steam didn't start it

what the fuck, now I have to wait an hour

>>151413095
it's a beta branch ya turkey

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For the longest time

>>151412873
Not enough disk space

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Wtf?

>>151413209
I already opted it, it scheduled the download to start in 12 hours for some reason

>>151412856
Thanks. Feeling dumb now.

Is anyone else having issues setting their servers difficulty/length?

Every time I change maps after applying changes they just revert back to what they originally were.

>AR15
>Damage 30 (was 20)
>Ammo cost 20 (was 14)
>Bullpup
>Damage 30 (was 25)
>Ammo Cost 30 (was 24)
>Total ammo amount 300 rounds (was 330)
so the bullpup exists, why?

>>151413538

45 round mags

full auto

scope

>>151413538
>9mm in varmint rifle = 5.56 out of bullpup

>>151413538
Larger mags.

>>151413320
I have 150 gb of free space?

>>151413830
Then it's steam fucking up, try restarting

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oh man I missed Collaps... I mean

RULES OF NATURE

>>151413538
Instead of reverting the gorefast head health to where it was, they're ruining the balance of everything else to compensate?

I thought 1858s were garbage before, but now that ar15 does just as much damage per shot, wow.

https://www surveymonkey com/r/KF2AugustBeta

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>Fleshpound - Total Revamp (yes, he talks now)
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