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Tiddy Edition

Do you have a question about a Japanese visual novel or a translation of it?
/vn/ is ready to answer it. We are not them.

>Developer Resources, Getting Started:
http://pastebin.com/7LsCvtq3 (embed)

>Recommended Reading:
https://vndb.org/v/all?q=;fil=olang-en.tagspoil-0;o=d;s=rating
http://pastebin.com/zGVSpH0B (embed)

>For Developers. Huge collection of guides on everything:
https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewforum.php?f=42

>Ren'Py Download:
http://www.renpy.org/
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why live
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>>151203273
To make me a game

If you're going to make a shitty game though fuck you
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Quality bump
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Does anyone know where I can find a collection/gallery of high quality JVN sprites?
I want to study the colouring style to try and improve my own.
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>>151207425
I do but I'm not telling. I'm so mean.
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>>151207758
Bully ;_;
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>>151207758
I'll give you mai waifu.
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>>151208765
>>151209586
Okay, I'll spoonfeed you a bit. There are full JVN CGs and sprite rips in exhentai. Poke around there.
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>>151209915
Thanks famanon
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>>151202237
those tits are outrages.
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>>151207425
Any game gallery in exhentai?
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>>151213332
>outrages

But yea. I agree. Those tits are the worst.
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I personally avoided large tits for my characters. Did I do the right thing?
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>>151217412
No
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>>151217412
If you hate money, then yes.
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>>151217412
I also did this, but it wasn't on purpose. I just like flat girls that wear suits, so that's just what most of my characters ended up being.
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>>151217990
Is SAO 16.5 an example of a nicely written sex scene?
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>>151217990
>flat girls in suits
Show us the honey.
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>>151219987
Would pay to see SAO with lesbians.
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>>151221454
Quick! Kickstart a yuri "trapped in another world" VN!
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>>151222484

> more yuri

no anon.
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>>151222484
Instead of having the usual fantasy "trapped in another world thing", how about "trapped in a fucking advanced world" or "trapped during the biblical times"?
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>>151223978

> biblical times

just wait until someone decides to do that saint fucking game.
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>>151224121
I just want some temple-trampling action.
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STOP REVIEW BOMBING DRIFTWOOD!
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>>151224254
Huh?
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>make 30 something character with large breasts
>make her a virgin

nyehehehe
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>>151224254
https://picsurge.com/g/bp6InN

why did someone put effort into this?
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>>151224452
would she be a social retard too?
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>>151225209
just a prude who was waiting for the right one, but the right one never showed.
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>>151224452
That's super common though. Never heard of the Christmas cake archetype?
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>>151225890
most of them are used goods
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>>151226095
No, they're mostly virgins, due to the nip obsession with purity. They often complain they've never even had a boyfriend.
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>>151224902
This is how I feel about this game.
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>>151225890
oh really? well i'm fine following this trend.

>>151226095
nobody wants those.
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>>151226354
Not in the nukige I fap to, then again it is nukige
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>>151224902
>nice backgrounds
>nice sprite for the one girl
>obvious effort put into the scenes
>painful meme writing
>all the other sprites look like >>151226532


too bad.
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>>151226532
>mac
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>>151226532

>That poster

What kind of perspective is that even supposed to be? It's wrong on at least three levels.
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my meme masterpiece
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>>151228016
I love you
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>>151224254
get out driftwood dev
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>>151228016
I'm glad I didn't even give this a chance. Maybe he should have just admitted he can't do this and gave up like Dischan.
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>>151202237
>previous thread isn't in the OP
Fucking what
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>>151229756

>>150878905
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>>151229649
ikr
like i dont have an ounce of respect for him actually finishing it
its worse than fucking nothing
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>>151203273
Why do I even come back to /evn/?
It's like I think it's possible to make a good vn still.
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i feel bad for driftwood
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>>151232431
why you feel bad for shit ?
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>>151226793
>tfw never noticed sprites could be such a problem since they usually look nice
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I feel bad for good for nothing pieces of shit who like to pretend they make vns but are just hateful motherfuckers who cant actually do better so they hate everything under the sun. Fucking kill yourselves.
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>>151232748
Hi Driftwood.
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>>151232748
I-I can change, anon. If only everything weren't so easy to hate.
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>>151232431
>>151232748
>waste 8k of KS money and 20K of your families money for 3 years
>make nothing
>ask for more money to do the same thing
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>>151232970
Hey, you never know, maybe this time, he can make things right. Haven't you seen the Hollywood movies? You just need to give them another chance.
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>>151232748
jokes on you
i make real games
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>>151233243
>real games
>posting in /evn/
Why? We don't make games here.
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>>151232970
>20K of families money
holy shit sauce
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>>151232970
>20k
>make nothing
Sounds like college without the college.
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>>151232548
i feel sympathy since it does look like there was actual effort put into it

>>151232970
>20K of your families money

whew
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>>151233518
Who even makes anything without effort? That's just simply not possible unless you're autistic or like to waste time.
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>>151233626
>Who even makes anything without effort?
http://steamcommunity.com/app/423650/
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omg i thought this shit was the full game
now i learn its only the 1st fucking act
wtf
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>>151233715
Why did you post this great looking game?
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>>151233771
omg, liek, totally
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>>151228016
I can imagine them drafting the script and saying all those lines out loud before giving themselves a mental high-five.
Unless they didn't write that and they just have the misfortune of looking like someone who finds that shit funny.
Don't know what it's for, though.
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>>151234213

He wrote the entire thing himself. He also finds everything funny if his facebook is any indication.
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>>151234391
Yeah, that pose just kind of screams "I think the gangster talk translator on lingojam is the height of humor."
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Let's get some positive vibes going!

What part of your project have you completed recently?
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>>151224902

This one is my favorite.
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>>151236948
I found old shitty anime art of mine from some time ago and the differences really blew me away, made me realize I've made a lot of progress even if I'm not where I want to be yet.
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>>151236948
New background + some simple "handwritten note" CGs were delivered today. Just threw them into the game and they look pretty good.

Also did some cool (read: very basic) shader coding yesterday to get a neat little wobble/distort effect.
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>>151237013
>ZeroEscapedialogue.png
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>>151232748
Confirmed for NPD
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>>151224254
Stop releasing crappy vns that you kickstarted and abandoned. Running a new kickstarter at the moment isn't winning you any points either.
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>>151236948
all of it
now i'm waiting on others
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For some drama, Japanese dev/publisher Frontwing is holding an AMA on Reddit. They said that they have no idea why people think they have no problem releasing 18+ content. People said that Sekai Project blamed the lack of progress on 18+ content for Grisaia on Frontwing. Sekai Project's bias against 18+ content confirmed.
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Someone make a VN about mind hacks
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>>151241820
>One of the most interesting differences we've noticed about the VN markets is that Western fans tend to evaluate the amount of content in a game based on play time, while in Japan, the number of unique CGs is the biggest factor.
Heh, you guys are doing it all wrong. Artist have all the power.
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>>151242031
>mind hacks
What
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>>151242124
Gaijin fucking things up as per usual.
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>>151241820
i can't take those people seriously after purino party
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>>151242124
It's the Western fanbase's fault. Look forward to a 10 hour vn with 5 CG.
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>>151243196
At least that came with an 18+ patch at launch unlike Grisaia.
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>>151243218
This plus english devs are too fucking poor to afford art so they just settle for whatever they can get.
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>>151242723
it should be self-explanatory really
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>>151243498
It also helps that just about everyone thinks they're a writer. Many devs are also their teams writer, which saves them alot of money in that area. I feel like artist devs save a ton more money on their projects.
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>>151243845
>I feel like artist devs save a ton more money on their projects.
i paid my last writer 2000 USD, more than my backgrounds cost.
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>>151244009
>i paid my last writer 2000 USD
Last thread we were discussing that "you are a retard if you are paying for expensive music", and now you, with your numbers.
For that price that fag should've wrote 200k script without a single meme.
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>>151245220
But anon, writers should be paid 5 cents per word!
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>>151245220
it's almost like /evn/ isn't a hivemind. almost. i am using 100% stock music my soundtrack was 45$.
>200k
i wish
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>>151246039
Where do you get stock music for that price? What I could find was at least $100 per track for commercial use
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>>151242031
nukige where you mind hack to watch your parents fuck and starve to death afterwards when
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>>151247290
>mind hack your mom
>make her your sex slave
Oh wait, there's a lot of games like that already
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>>151247549
>mind hack your dad
>make him your sex slave
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>>151247791
HURRY, START A KICKSTARTER.
Make $50k milestone - trap dad.
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>>151203273
because it's more fun than doing a recorded thing? Also feels more intimate with your viewers. idk, it's weird how having a twitch stream with 50 viewers feels like a bigger deal than having a youtube with 1000 views.
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>>151249196
U wot
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>>151245469
>Actually paying your writers
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Fuck CGs desu. They are rad, but I would rather have a meatier story than a couple more still images.
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2.5D CGs?
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>>151249645
"live" has multiple definitions
he was meme'ing
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Yuri milf vn when?
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>>151251256
NOW
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>>151251465
mom pls
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>>151251465
inb4 /evn/ helps fund it.
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https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=26725

Nice game?
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>>151252794
>https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=26725
>Posted: Sun May 25, 2014
>Progress: %5 of everything T_T
>T_T
Vaporware
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>>151252794
RPG set up, but not much else to see yet. Post back when prototype.
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>>151252794
>Release date: 2015-2016
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>>151252794
>12K followers on twitter
Who the fuck is this
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>>151253347
I believe they made some dress up browser game
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>https://exhentai.org/g/963693/93ef28d3b5/
>your vn will never get a fan doujin of your character pissing into another characters mouth purely out of passion

i didn't ask for these feels
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>>151254037
>tfw no fan stuff
No Wurzels please.
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>>151254037
>artist has aspergers
VN about fucking aspergers when
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>WAKE ME UP
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>>151233518
I feel like a lot of the pains the dev had with this VN would have been resolved so easily if they didn't insist of using custom BGs and pared down the number of CGs/sprite alts... Art assets are a big money sink and can drag a project down if you try to pay for too much you can't comfortably afford.
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>>151255601
>Not tracing 3D shit
Found your problem.
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>>151244009
>Paying writers at all
Hahahaha.
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>>151254709
Rin route in KS
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>>151251073
oh
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>>151257360
it happens
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Does UAB count as EVN or does that go in VN?
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>>151260508
It certainly goes here.
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>>151260663
>>151260508
no, go to /vn/ and ask them about it, I want to see what happens
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>>151260742
Do it yourself.
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>>151250960
>meatier story
Or more meaningless, redundant writing
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>>151261291
can't you even do such a triflng thing? What a loser.
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We're not dying.
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>>151264996
DIE
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>>151264996
Actually, everyone is. Little by little, all the time.
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>>151265264
Nope. That's just you. We're all immortal and you're on some twisted Truman show.
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>>151265621
Then you're all excellent actors because I keep watching people go dedder than ded.
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>>151265264
We might stop soon, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAhjPd4uNFY
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>>151265891
Unlikely, unless genetic engineering makes us bulletproof and resistant to blunt/cutting damage too.
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>>151266395
But that's not "little by little, all the time", it's "immediately, quickly, and most likely suddenly".
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>>151266468
Only if hitting critical points. Bleeding to death can be a very slow process, and torture can also be extended for long periods of time with care and teamwork.
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>>151266646
SHAME. SHAME.
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>>151246562
sound packs on dlsite
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Lesbians are gone
No more Kickstarters to mock
/evn/ lies dead
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>>151272776
next year will be the year of the gays, just wait and see.
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>>151273063
>There are a three promising yuri games who will release demos next year
which ones?
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post progress
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>>151276980
Why bother
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>>151276980
>WAKE ME UP INSIDE
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>>151277402
>1024x768
Heuueueueueueue
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>>151281107
dos
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>>151277402
How much per bg?
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>>151283126
786432 pixels
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>>151283126
$7.50 but $10 for two
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>>151283476
So, you've been doing this bg whole day, and didn't finish it yet.
You get around $5 per day ?
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>>151284575
>taking that post seriously
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>>151284575
>being this gullible
Anon. BGs are usually worth 100-250 dollars a piece.
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>>151287332
> 100-250
but I want my 7.5-10$ bgs
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>>151288121
Why pay at all. Why not steal JVN bgs and filter the fuck out of them instead? Then you become the real AA.
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>>151288550
Hey, I never did that!
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>>151289963
Why so defensive anon?
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>>151290081
thats_the_joke.jpg
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Redoing it all
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>still no post from anon that wanted to post a gif of his sprites
I hope he got his game running again.
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>>151294653
That's me right above you. I'm going to start over with a new file and put things in one by one until I find out what the problem is. Thanks for caring.
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>>151294820
Yeah, that post reminded me of you. Good luck.
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>>151295324
Thanks! I'm gonna hoard that luck.
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>>151242124
Probably because their are a lot of flaky, mediocre artists
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Pg10
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>tfw you realize your demo has more CGs than some full length evns
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>>151305801

are they stick figures?

variations don't count, either.
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>>151305980
nope
what kind of pleb counts variants?
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>>151305801
post yfw people don't care about CGs
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>>>/u/2105012

some guy making almost 8k a month on patreon is trying to convince /u/ to give him more money
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hue
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Why is Kickstarter's project creation interface so fucking clunky?
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>>151309918
no idea. have fun editing images
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http://vnsnow.com/a-quick-look-at-locked-souls/
>The demos for The Menagerie, Ladykiller in a Bind and Seeds of Chaos all had some element of sexual domination with the protagonist usually being the plaything of someone else. Locked Souls seemingly gleams from that dynamic to build its ‘relationships’: for lack of a better word. The kick here is that the other games I mentioned are pornography. Locked Souls is not, so all of this information is less of a path to an end goal and more like…fanservice.
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>>151306542
I care about CGs
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>>151313995
fuck off
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I NEED PICTURES

PICTURES OF SPIDERVN
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literally why am I alive and someone more useful and talented is likely dead
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>>151319793
You need to channel their spirit and keep going.
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>>151319793
its okay anon
I'll be talented and useful enough for the both of us
I'll put in twice as much as work starting now
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>>151319598
marvel/dc dating sim when?
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>>151320130
Who is the best evn dev from the 1800's?
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at this rate, harem protagonist's kickstarter will not reach the stretch goal for having a female protagonist option

YURI OR RIOT
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>>151326859
there's about 300 real yuri games in the works, so
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>>151326859
It will most likely be the same game just with swapped pronouns.
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>>151326685
papilon
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>>151327908
If that's the case then why are they making it one of the last stretch goals behind the things that actually take effort to implement?
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>>151332451
To get the yuri fans to kick in lots of money. Pretty straightforward.
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I want to work on a VN as a programmer and maybe director. Anyone willing to form a group?

Also if you have an idea for a short game let's do it together! I can do lot so stuff in photoshop too.
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>>151334335
go recruit on lemma
no one works here
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>>151334838
speak for yourself, man.
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>>151340075
cut off head syndrome
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>>151334335
No. Those things and a couple more I can do on my own.
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>>151313995
>Locked Souls is not, so all of this information is less of a path to an end goal and more like…fanservice.
What is the point.
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>>151341978
>taking a vnsnow review seriously

Hi JP.
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As a writer who has to take into consideration the backgrounds involved, how do you deal with characters that are moving around a lot?
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>>151342476
Asking what the point of fanservice is when you could just have far more satisfying porn is taking a review seriously?
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>>151342520
Don't underestimate the power of the human imagination, a black screen with description used at the right time can serve in place of a background and most readers wont even realize you did it.
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Everybody's talking about Live2D, but what about E-mote? Which is easier or better? I have E-mote but haven't used it.
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I'm working on a mystery/horror romance VN with 4 romancable girls. Should it be het or yuri?
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>>151346146
yuri
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>>151346146
Change the pronouns and it can be both with almost no extra effort from you.
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>>151343918
E-mote doesn't have a definitive english documentation yet.
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>>151346398
Where's the fun in that?
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>>151347564
YES
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>>151347564
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VN about Israel demolishing Palestinian settlements when?
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Do you design the GUI or do the art first? I feel that if I design the interface after all the art is complete it will not blend in with the rest of the game.
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>>151347759
>lack of consistent past or present tense

MAKE UP YOUR GOD DAMN MIND
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>>151348596
Really? Wouldn't you be better able to design a fitting GUI after you know how the rest of the game looks? I'd be more worried of the artwork clashing with the GUI I'd already designed.
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>>151348651
I'll fix it later.
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>>151346146
Futa x Female > Het > Yuri

It's not sex without a benis.
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>>151347759
I don't want to be mean or anything but I feel some minor changes would make reading it a little better.

Something like "Despite the pleas of the villagers, houses were set aflame by the army. The entire village soon became an inferno, the German army resembling a legion straight out of hell."
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>>151347759
>Despite the pleas of the villagers, the army began to set the houses aflame.
Would sound better as well. You're using passive voice there and it's really awkward.
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>>151346146
Yaoi
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>>151348926
>>151348971

Not mean at all! Thanks!
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>>151348794
Isn't it the same either way? Get art, gui might clash or get gui, art might clash. It all depends on how you go about it. If you show the artist your game window and feel they can work with that and vice versa.
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>>151202237
I want to FUCK that ayyylien.
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>>151349343
I just mean if you already know what the whole look of the game feels like it'll be easier to design a fitting GUI. Unless you're doing all the art design based off the GUI, which seems weird to me.
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>>151348794
Maybe it's because I'm bad at design. It's hard for me to come up with a decent GUI.
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>>151349457
I mean I'm not that first anon you replied to but personally I tend to like getting the gui done first since it's the piece that's with you through the whole game. I need it to feel good with the text and buttons - it needs to have the intended aesthetic even with a blank screen. Since I write most of the novel first and leave cg and sprites for the end, it just... I don't know, makes sense to me. You have a point though I'm not saying you don't.
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>>151349425
I'll take the tits at the back.
>>151202237
I'm kinda surprise they didn't add a childhood friend considering it's suppose to be a harem meta.
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>>151350446
>balloon tits lover
This is why we can't have nice things
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>>151351047
Oppai or byebye, bitch
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>>151351389
I like tits that actually obey the laws of gravity and don't look retarded.
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Anyone have information on KS2? Forgot about it and it seems to have fallen off the face of the earth. Is it kill?
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>>151351763
Amen.
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>>151202237
Is this an actual game? I wanna stick my face in the bushy purple hair
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>>151351763
>>151352647
>m-muh physics
>muh realism
Fuck you. Anime girls don't look realistic to begin with.
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>>151352895
Yes
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>>151352895
you'll get lice
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>>151354669
Anime girls (and guys) with a little more realism to them are generally more attractive to people. It's a thing that is starting to get popular.
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>>151354669
Fuck off. The best animu grills are the ones with realistic model bods. Go back to /d/
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>>151354669
>>151354938
I don't really care about realism, I just think beachball tits are a huge turnoff and a glaring sign of a subpar artist
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Fuck this Ren'Py shit

It's a bunch of hot garbage

I could make a better language than this with my eyes closed
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>>151355980
Then get off your ass and do it faggot.
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>>151355980
And make better documentation while you're at it.
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>>151355980
It's doing what I need it to do, so I can't really complain
>>
How to bump?
>>
my first piss
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>>151359630
I'll bump yours if you bump mine bby gurl
>>
How to get a dev waifu.
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>>151362249
You train one?
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>>151362249
You make one from scratch and mold them to your tastes.
>>
>>151362249
travel to anime cons and sexually assault them
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>>151363407
en route
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>>151355264
>The best animu grills are the ones with realistic model bods
Examples?
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>>151363787
Too lood to post
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>>151362289
>>151362483
>>151363407
I see that I needed to be more specific.

How do I get a dev waifu who also lurks here. Seeing that I'm already a chan scum grill might as well find one here.

I'm just so ronery. Sry ;_;
>>
>>151365241
I'm ronery as well but I'm right in front a sea of cubicles with lots of options available. And if I stay for another 6 hours, I get trap options as well.
>>
>>151365241
>lots of options
must be nice to live in your head away from reality like that
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>>151365241
>wanting a gf from 4chins
>not making an unexpected connection with a normie who can introduce you to normie lesbo hangouts so in case you're dumped, you can have places to stalk for future gf
>>
>>151365558
>tfw actually dated 9 normies so far
>all have shit taste.
You don't understand anon. You have to have a grill who is similar to you. Normies will never understand your passion for chinese cartoons or flipbooks. Only a fellow scum will accept you as who you truly are.
>>
Speaking of lesbo stuff, are lesbian bathouses a thing in the West?
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>>151365641
I can be your grll tonight.
>>
>>151365558
it's very easy to make connections with normies, very hard to maintain them.
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>>151365641
that often makes for horrifying couples though, not even memeing, they always look like weird fucks who crawled out of a dumpster and don't know what a shower is. Kawaii dev geeef who smells of cinnamon and has long silky hair and cuddles with you in bed in PJs rewatching LOGH together is a MYTH ;_;
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It's me again. Tell me what you think about our girl.

rough sketch
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>>151365982
But anon... I AM. a kawaii dev geeek who smell like cinammon. I don't have long silky hair. But I have a qt soft, puffy mane. I also watch LOGH.

Yet I continue to be alone. ;_;


>>151365843
H-here's my throwaway.
Sorry.
[email protected]
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>>151366249
What is your first name?
>>
>>151366339
Sorry, I can't. It's too embarrassing. I only share my first name with my girlfriends.
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>>151365641
>dated 9 anyone
TAINTED TAINTED TAINTED
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>>151366416
/u/ please.

My fingers are pure.
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>>151366216
looks like just the rest of your grills t b h (but it's not bad, something about the style if preddy appealing)
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>>151365982
But my boyfriend and I are both hygienic and normal looking.
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>This thread

Normie please leave.
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>>151366467
You expect me to believe that you've had 9 different relationships and your fingers have never engaged in lewd activities?
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>>151366416
Fucking normies reeeee
>>
>>151366691
This thread proves that social reject lesbos are just as thirsty and desperate as social reject men.
>>
>>151366720
Alright. I admit. I held her hands. Am I that tainted now? Oh geez.
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>>151366830
STONE THE ADULTERING WHORE
>>
Wtf is happening here lol.
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>>151366556
>boyfriend
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>>151366889
bored male troll
>>
Wow its so interesting to see how the lesbo VN dating meta is like lol.

>tfw I use skypecalls to teach the people I hire to use the esoteric tech the game has.
>tfw I've been hit on by half of the females.

It's almost like if I was a harem protagonist
>>
>>151366954
What's wrong with pure, natural love between a man and a woman?
>>
>>151366971
I really am a lonely taco-haver dev though. ;_;
>>
>>151366993
>>151366775
>>
>>151367076
Are you fat and/or ugly and/or not a virgin?
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>>151367170
No. No. No.

Sorry. I guess I'll just... get working on my game then.

This is the only way I could feel loved. ;_;
>>
>>151367001
penis
>>
>>151367001
vags
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>>151367254
The sensation of a penis inside your vagina is truly amazing, the best thing in life. A man fitting inside you as nature designed and becoming one together. I hope you'll be able to experience it too someday.
>>
What the fuck? What is this general?
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>>151367254

don't sorry pham, I'm on a crusade to convert all females to the church of my mighty short weiner.
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>>151367426
Normies and Sluts
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>>151367389
>implying STI riddled peen can stand up to my vibrator with g-spot design
>>
>>151367426
katawa general
>>
>>151366553
Are we suffering from sameface?
>>
>>151367426
Yurus and Yuris
>>
>>151367486
>implying your fancy vibrator is fancier than me
>>
>>151367486
>engaging in perverted activities and desensitizing yourself so that sex with a partner would be less pleasurable
>not mutually losing your virginity with someone and spending the rest of your lives together
Why are you even alive?
>>
>>151367389
>implying random thrusts would ever be able to compete with masterful fingers from cunt owners who have years of experience on the vajoo.
>>
>tfw I can write but can't draw for shit
Why is being writer suffering and underappreciated? I just want to but together a dumb little game. Whine whine whine.
>>
>>151367426
r9k, losers, normies, desperate virgins
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>>151367617
Fingers can feel nice, but they have nothing on the raw power and pleasure that comes from being thoroughly taken by a man.
>>
>>151367513
yeah, but it's a cute sameface so it alright
>>
>>151367682
>Why is being writer suffering and underappreciated? I just want to but together a dumb little game. Whine whine whine.

Because writers are cheap. I can get someone else like you for half your commission price.
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VAGOOOOO
or
PENORRRRR

http://www.strawpoll.me/10966531
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>>151368003
As a dude I'd be down to suck mad cock, but I'd prefer to stick it in a vagina. Where do I vote?
>>
>>151368129
VAGOOO

OR

PENORRR
>>
penis has no value. it's everywhere. you could be some club foot ham with a snaggle tooth and still manage to get dicked by walking into a bar.

penis is writers and artist is vagoo
>>
>>151368003
>>151368204
What.
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>>151368224
>penis is writers and artist is vagoo

tfw I can do both plus code
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>>151367730
http://www.newstatesman.com/sci-tech/2014/08/five-theories-why-lesbians-are-more-likely-orgasm-straight-women

Sorry anon.
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>>151368317

VVAGOOOOOOOOOOO

OOOORR

PPPEEEENOOOORRRR
>>
>>151368582
What about boipussy?
>>
>>151368623
Faggots need to leave.
>>
>>151368623

VV̙̣̹̯̙͈̹A͠G̰̲̥̞̜̭̹O̘̤̦͖̜̩O͓̦̪̩͚̰̱O҉̟̭̣O̞̠̻̪͍̟͘O̙O̹̺̙͕͍͚̖O҉̬̳̺̜O̩͖̲̝͟Ò̠͖͉̥̲O͖̤͉̫ͅO͟
̼̻͖͉̼͙̩
̪̗̞͙̯O͇̘̱̥̗O̼O̵̘̭O̝̥̺͉Ŗ̝̹̟͔̭̼R̫͚̯̦͎ͅ
͟
P͈͖͔̳̳P̣̦͓̤͕̳ͅP͎̜͘E̖̪E̷E͙͔̬̜͉̟E̛̲͉̬Ņ͇Ó̘Ọ̰̺̥̝O͍̘̰Ò̺Ŗ̰̙͓̠̱R̖̦̲̘͎̼̥͠Ṛ̢̼̤̫͙̼R̳̝̹̹
>>
Fill in the blank: Visual ____
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>>151368793
Calm down DFC satan.
>>
/evn/ was a mistake
>>
>>151369120
impairment because of all the shitposting
>>
>too beta to hit send
>they're probably talking to lesbo chad now
>some insane penis creature snapped after seeing thirsty lesbos

i'm going to bed
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>>151369167
It's your fault.

>>151369184
And your posts aren't shit how?
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>>151369234
because they're mine, duh. Anything I make is good, anything you make is awful.
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>>151369223
>lesbo chad
>penis creature
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>>151369223
>insane penis creature
That's what your gf said (^:

The joke is you don't have a gf you scum.
>>
>>151369223
Send it anyway anon. You never know.
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>>151369417
>tfw lesbos have their own chads
Wow.
>>
Love me
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>>151372239
I like you as a friend
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>>151372239
I love you
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>>151372298
Thanks anon.

>>151372336
But why didn't you message me. ;_;
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>>151372368
>Thanks anon.
KEK
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What are easy ways to scam writers/artists to avoid having to pay them?
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>>151373597
Give them the money you said you'd pay them, then keep up pretences and be friends long enough to get yourself written into their will, then wait for them to die.
It's the long game, but it'll pay off. You might even get out more than you pay in.
>>
>>151373886
>getting attached to scum
Just pay them and keep them off your lawn.
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>>151373597
If you die they can't force you to pay.
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>>151374663
Is that you KairyuKyun?
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>>151374663
What if I get paid but die before doing my work?
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>>151375368
You will not get your 72 virgins.
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>>151374756
No. And yet, that name hits too close to home.
Chance is really a terrifying force.
>>
>>151376235
>>151374756
Can't tell if a dev that actually died, or you guys are talking about some scammer.
>>
>>151376914
Isn't that the same thing?
>>
>Check steam for new vns
>yaoi
>yuri
>otome
Can we make something different ?
>>
>>151379769
> yaoi

which one?
>>
>>151379937
fag
>>
>>151379769
VNs are now for girls only
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>>151380563
How do we survive then ?
>>
>>151381289

> we
> /evn/ not being full of girls

anon
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>>151380563
More just homos in general.
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>>151362249
Post in this thread? That's how I got mine. Half of the thread are girls.
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>>151383816
Post lewds of your "girl"
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>>151384025
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>>151384813
How big is her dick?
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>>151384813
cutie
>>
I go to sleep for one night and you dumb cunts spiral into love life bullshit

Go make an okcupid account or stay on /soc/, jesus christ
>>
>>151388736
Wanna make an evn together?
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>>151384813
You missed a great opportunity to post CLove.
>>
>>
>>151368003
Why is Neither not a choice?
>>
>>151389565
Looked her up. Her Wikipedia page reads like it was written by herself.
>>
daily reminder that if you write brown prose you are a coward
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>>151391826
But if you draw brown lolis you are a god.
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>>151391826
What EVN has the best prose?
>>
>>151391826
>tfw ESL
>tfw continuosly slipping into sentence structures of my mother tongue and making horrible long-winded cumbersome sentences
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>>151391672
It probably was. Also, calling him a "her" is giving in to exactly that.
>>
evn about cute elves doing cute things when ?
>>
Is DEVGRU-P the biggest cancer to invade /evn/ since Sekai?
>>
>>151396038
How about omniknight?
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>>151372239
only if you love me back
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>>151393383
You and me, buddy. Worst of all is that sometimes memes and idioms creep their way back and I have to look how to say that fucking thing naturally in my own language.
>>
>>151393383
>>151400519
If you are esl, why don't find translator ?
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>>151365558
Don't even try. Homos have it easy.
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>>151400861
if you point me in the direction of a translator that isn't some 15 y.o. kid thinking he's the best just by the virtue of being a murrican AND that doesn't cost an arm and a leg to hire, I'd be grateful
except you can't
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>>151400861
Nah, I can manage on my own. Just need a proofreader to point out the occasional phrasal verb slip up and I'm good.
>>
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>>151384813
This Google Image recognition AI is getting pretty accurate.
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>>151391826
What, cause purple prose is so much better?
fuck off
>>
>>
>>151374756
>KairyuKyun
fuck that guy
>>
I'm still bothered by the fact that blood for the blood good isn't a Warhammer vn.
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>>151406609
Memes for the Meme God are commonplace in the evn scene tho
>>
>tfw artist says they're interested but they haven't emailed back since
>tfw its been 11 days now
>tfw for every one of those days they've been active on social media
WHY THE FUCK YOU LYING
>>
>>151408062
for free ?
>>
>>151408398
for 4 figures
hence why I'm pissed
why do artists hate money?
>>
>>151400519
>>151393383

Best thing to do is get a playtester who has an English degree. Luckily, it seems I found one.
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>>151408062
Clearly chose the wrong artist. Hire me instead.
>>
>>151408062
>>151408506
It's crazy how you can sort artists so neatly into "demanding jerks who overestimate their own ability" and "pathetic victims held back by their crippling social anxiety"
>>
>>151410230
Me! Me!
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>>151410290
I'm the latter one!
>>
>>151410230
>>151410584
gimme your contact and I might
>>
>>151410290
silly, silly anon
for artist there is only scum
through scumminess, unity
>>
>>151410954
But I don't even know what might you need! Sprites? CGs? BGs?
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>>151411123
just sprites and cg senpai
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>>151411123
Dicks.
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>>151411317
Okay, I've sent you an email.
>>151411436
Sent you one too.
>>
>>151408506
>4 figures

just say $1000.
>>
>>151411123
Wait a second... Is "CG" in this context short for "character graphic?"
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>>151411812
through the power of magic I presume?
>>151412048
but thats wrong
>>
>>151412246
>through the power of magic I presume?
No, we exchanged emails through the Steam chat. Obviously nobody worth paying is dumb enough to post our contact info on 4chan.
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>>151412462
>through the Steam chat.
since when in the flying fuck has this place had a steam chat?
and speak for yourself, I've hired anons from here before who were good.
>>
>>151412732
>I've hired anons from here
Where are they now ?
>>
>>151412964
They completed the work I hired them to do. I have no more use for them now.
>>
What's the Steam Group?
>>
>>151413617
Searched and all I could find was a 'visual novel developers' group which is tiny and ded as fuck
anon is talking out their ass
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>>151413617
ignore that guy it's a cliche prank some anons play on generals to gaslight people, theres no steam club
>>
>>151414281
>>151413908

Why tho?
>>
>>151380563
>yuri
>for girls only
I imagine since most translated games are BxG, guys don't really have a demand for more since they already have lots of great games a few clicks away. But there aren't that many shitty niche games for women translated, so girls made their own games. It's just the market.
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>>151415079
>great games a few dicks away
What has evn done to my mind?
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>>151417293
>>
>>151415079
How about we try to satisfy them all ?
In game will be only 1 LI, and it will be Brown-Trap-MILF-Elf-Loli.
And you choose your gender at the start.
It will also have "pure" route, for paladins, and Blood for the Blood God route, for heretics.
>>
>>151391826
what the fuck is brown prose?
>>
>>151419897
He opened the drawer. There was a cat. He killed the cat and then ate it. If was an efficient and lifeless meal.
>>
>>151420498
Was the cat alive or dead
>>
>>151420753
Tha cat was. The cat is no more. The memory is.
>>
>>151420498
is this better
He pistoned his gleaming sword into her dewy core of femininity.
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>>151421407
Yes.
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>>151421556

"Ahnn!" She cried, as the drooling hellhound thrust his succulent wienerschnitzel into her shameful cove.
>>
>>151420498
What's the difference between brown prose and beige prose
>>
As the dark and mysterious stranger approached, Angela bit her lip anxiously, hoping with every nerve, cell, and fiber of her being that this would be the one man who would understand – who would take her away from all this – and who would not just squeeze her boob and make a loud honking noise, as all the others had.
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>>151421827
You have a talent for this, anon. Half-ero, half-humorous sex scenes are my fetish.
>>
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>>151422031
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>>151424986
>He called her names
Rude.
>>
this thread has been such cancer its not even worth posting progress in anymore
see you next bred
>>
>>151424986
that's not bad at all though, just you didn't use any sentence variation
>>
>>151424986

b-blue board
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>>151424986
>beleted

what were you saying about being a coward? :^)
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>>151425734
First you complain because /evn/'s too cruel, now you're upset everybody's getting along through sexuality?
>>
>>151425903
what the fuck, text only posts can get deleted?
>>
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>Don't want to draw anymore
>Don't feel up to writing
>Don't want to play video games or read
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>tfw lonely taco-haver and lesbo chad are probably uhauling by now
>>
>>151427573
Gross. Why can real life lesbian relationships be like in my yuri games?
>>
>>151427509
Same here
>>
>>151427509
then just give up dumb shit
>>
>>151427814
Because women are trouble and you're putting two of them together.
>>
>>151427509
This is what fapping is for.
>>
>>151427396
No, dumbass. Either somebody removed it for being too much of a shitpost or the poster himself deleted it.
>>
>>151427509
>Don't want to draw anymore
another flake shit artist.
>>
>got hired by a japanese VN team as a programmer
did i officially make it /evn/
>>
>>151428897
>japanese VN team
Which one?
>>
when did /evn/ become the lamentations of lonely lesbians?

i mean i'm a lonely woman too but you don't see me complaining about it
>>
>>151429926
>when did /evn/ become the lamentations of lonely lesbians?
when hasn't it been?
>>
>>151429926
For fuck's sake. If I see another post about this I'm just gonna have to come eat you all out so you'll cheer up already.
>>
Does everyone get depressed this time of day or something?
>>
>>151433791
This is the time of day when the people with day jobs get home and start drinking alone.
>>
>>151430437
lesbo chad is that u
>>
>>151433791
I've been feeling like this all day personally
>>
Looking for a good 2D VN game.

Plenty of sex
School girl setting
Can fuck more than one girl and not limited to one route etc
Maybe able to impregnate some
>>
>>151436787
>Looking for a good 2D VN game.
Well that's gonna be a problem. It's all 3D now.
>>
>>151437815
Well I don't mind that either. Just something that ticks the boxes
>>
>>151438207
Not technically what you're looking for but I think you'll love Artificial Academy.
>>
>>151438756
Nah nothing like that. I play AA2 a lot
>>
i still feel bad for driftwood
>>
>>151442927
driftwood is the name of a strip club in jacksonville, nc
>>
>>151442927
Do you really?
>>
VN about a straight woman working in a lesbo bathouse when?
>>
>>151446868
Only if she's a plant for men to lure lesbians in and get them addicted to dick. Otherwise it has to be a lesbian surrounded by straight women she converts into lesbians.
>>
>>151446868
>lesbo bathouse
I imagined a /u/ standards bath house, where people are carded at the door for having a dick near them at any point in their lives.
>>
Inb4 the bath itself is the concentration of a thousand women's love juice.
>>
>>151448083
That's fucking disgusting. It's great when a woman's wet but I don't want to swim in that.
>>
I'd like to somehow combine technothriller with battle shonen, probably as a kinetic novel.
>>
wow i thought this would be a general about good english vns and instead it's a general for shitty developers who haven't produced anything of quality bitching at each other
>>
>>151450337
leave this place and never look back
its too late for us
save yourself
>>
>>151450337
/evn/ actually stands for everyone.
>>
BOREDOM
Describe a scene of your supposedly/theoretically/presumably in the making eechi/adult EVN and I'll sketch it up for ya
>>
>>151450674
2 girls groping each other and both being very angry about it
>>
>>151451397

/u/ in a nutshell.
>>
Why am I still here.
>>
>>151451994
why are we all here? we have no where else to go
no where else to shitpost
no where else to gossip
no where else to be lazy
>>
>>151450337
this should almost be in our OP at this point
>>
>>151408506
Hire me instead. What do you want to work on? I know how much you people hate lazy artists and I'm pretty confident that I'm not one. Contact me.

>[email protected]
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>>151456405
email sent
>>
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>>151451397
Project link?
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>>151446139
yeah, i feel sympathetic to people who try hard and then miss the mark
>>
>>151457109
check your email senpai
>>
>>151458559
>people who try hard
this is a man who thought putting quotation marks around text in renpy was hard
please raise your standards
>>
>sprite artist is rather weak on CGs

What to do /evn/? I want CGs.
>>
>>151457109
Can I hire you for free senpai?
I'll only need about 100 pieces of art, not much.
>>
>>151457109
You do commissions broseph?
>>
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>>151461568
For a living, yes.
Extremely busy tho.
>>
>>151463553
What are your rates?
>>
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>>151463842
Reasonable.
>>
>>151464197
Numbers please.
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>>151464197
Post a link, you can't be accused of shilling if it's being asked.
>>
>800x600
>4:3
???
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>>151464338
>>151464603
Closed and busy, it wouldn't make sense if I post it here if I can't accept any.

>>151465774
Random sketch for a request, particularly for dev who is working on an adult evn just to fuel their motivation a bit.
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>>151464197
Why are you sketches so chicken scratchy, do you find it hard to do flicks with your pen or? I mean it gets the job done in the end but just wondering.
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>>151466879
It helps me more than clean strokes.
I use rough brush since it make the lines less defined + chicken scratch.

I have issue translating whatever I have in mind onto paper, so these rough, undefined lines sorta helps me do just that.
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>>151467441
Soo chicken scratch. Well you do you senpai.
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>>151468579
>>151467807
I'm jelly with an artist who have such confidence with their lines and sketch.
Chicken scratch is a sign of lack of fundamentals and confidence. which is exactly what I am.
>>
>>151468679
I think some level of chicken scratch is fine to a degree, it can become a bad habit to rely on though since you generally aren't observing large shapes and forms as a whole - instead relying on small shapes and constructing chicken scratch for the rest. I wouldn't let it get you down though, as long as your final product is tidy you're fine, and you're learning all the time with each image. I'm really hungry I need some noodles.
>>
>>151466879
>>151468579
I'm not an artist, but he's drawing more-or-less anatomically correct full body shots, while yours are cartoony doodles. I don't think it's really fair to compare them.
>>
Best EVN studio what?
>>
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>>151470548
I am not comparing them. I was just asking a question, not telling them off for it.
>>
>>151470548
Anon. The cartoony guy is obviously just posting randumb art to pass the time. Also, the topic are line quality. Not the theme/style. Even if you'r working on a full body. Precise and well intentioned lines are a must.

>>151468679
I agree. Having an artist who have good sketches usually translates well to good quality art/cg,

I wish I have one. ;_;
>>
Would you write a visual novel in Erlang?
>>
>>151472639
Too industrial for EVN.
>>
>>151428897
>ren'py
Did you officially make it programmer?
>>
>>151466056
Do you ever draw non-yuri porn ?
>>
>>151474598
>implying an eigowasha can't roll up some fucking kirigiri like the best of them
shm thb fma
>>
>>151470548
>he's drawing more-or-less anatomically correct full body shots, while yours are cartoony doodles. I don't think it's really fair to compare them
bruh
Clean, confident lines are always preferable to chicken scratch.
>>
>>151474792
I draw almost everything except Yaoi.
>>
>>151477169
Does cute traps doing cute things count as yaoi ?
>>
>>151477834
If it has a penis, it's gay.
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>>151477870
>>
Why is yaoi appealing to fujoshits?
>>
>>151478036
They're repressed lesbians/transmen and self-insert as the guys. Proof of this is that there are mangas where the fujoshits transforms into a man and gives their straight boyfriends a surprise dicking.
>>
>>151477169
>I draw almost everything except Yaoi.
So, will you draw: Furry Loli getting her Brain fucker, while Shitting herself?
>>
>>151478818
For the right price.
>>
>>151478818
Why is the s in shitting capitalized?
>>
>>151478818
>loli
>not baby
>no guro
Step it up, senpai
>>
i spent like 2 hours on a scene and only wrote 200 words.
>>
>>151480456
Post it.
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>>151480549
>posting progress
>on /evn/

i'd prefer /soc/ dykes and brown prose
>>
>>151480797
Why does /evn/ even exist, seriously
>>
>>151481549
for thirsty virgins who make vns about sex
>>
>>151481549
because half the people here don't use question marks
or punctuation
>>
>>151481612
>thirsty virgins
>making anything
Please.
>>
>>151481612
Is anyone currently here besides me that's making something that isn't about romance/sex?
>>
>>151481918
I am. I dropped the romance part of my game because the dateables weren't really that appealing.
>>
>>151482081
>>151481918
I also am.
>>
>>151481835
And that's a problem because
>>
>>151481918
What is the point of making JAPANESE game in english, without sex ?
>>
>>151481918
do you hate money or something?
>>
>>151482856
To tell a story. Before you tell me to write a novel, I'm not going to write a novel. It's a lot more boring to write than a VN for me.
>>
>>151483657
Post your story then. I will tell if it's better or not than chinese cartoons sex
>>
>>151482994
It's a non-commercial project so that's not a factor.
>>
>>151484473
>non-commercial project
do you hate money or something?
>>
>>151484473
>non-commercial project
do you hate your own life or something?
>>
>>151485194
Kind of but that's beside the point.
I'm only doing this because I want people to enjoy something I made. I'm not looking to make a profit.
>>
>>151483738
I don't really see them as my competition.
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>I CAN'T WAKE UP
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>>151487849
>polo trophies
gaaaaaay
>>
>>151488165
ITS CROQUET!
>>
phhhbbbbbttttt
>>
>>151487849
cute lonely flower
>>
>>151492259
but can it suck my dick
>>
>>151492730
depends how much you are paying
>>
So, how's BCM? Since it just dropped in price and everything.
>>
>>151497437
Dropping the price doesn't make it less shittier.
>>
>>151497613
Looks like a quality game, at lest it doesn't have default ren'py/tyrano menu. Why it failed so hard?
>>
>>151499101
Okay I'm dumb. $20 for a shitty evn, and the lowest price was $17.99, holy fuck, those niggers did WW tier pricing.
If it's 20$ now, what was the price before ?
>>
>>151499384

... It was $20, it's going to be $15 now.
>>
arise
>>
>>
>>151504314
That looks fucking awful and hard to see.

I think the biggest issue is the font.
>>
>>151504314
The white leaves and the font are garbage.

Have the centers of the text boxes more solid in color and change the font.
>>
>>151504314
$300 GUI ladies and gentlemen
>>
>>151507165
I hope you're kidding... Who is it by?
>>
>>151504314
this has to be a joke for a "it's shit on purpose" game
>>
>>151511485
I don't think so. It would be more evident, were that the case.
>>
Why is everything so shit?
>>
>>151511485
>>151513121


isn't this the GUI for that reach for the stars vn with the awful textbox?
>>
>>151516736
nah, theirs is purple shit with more or less legible text the last time I checked, this is something else
>>
>>151516684
Like, why are you so shit?
>>
>>151519318
No, everyone is shit except me.
>>
I wish youtubers would email me when they do a LP, I keep an eye for them but the original list of the people I asked was so big I don't even remember half of them.
>>
>>151520701
>youtubers
Those guys with 3-5 subscribers ?
>>
>>151522805
I am quite sure my game will be letsplayed by a couple people with hundreds of thousands subscribers.
And in case you thought otherwise, I am not joking here.
>>
>>151523076
post art from your game
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>>151522805
no, so far it's been people with 100-200k suscribers.
>>
>https://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=39007

I feel like I am out of the loop. What do all those terms even mean?
>>
>>151523076
>>151523246
Who are these youtubers that have so many subs yet are willing to do lets plays of evns?
I only know of 1 or 2 with that many.
>>
>>151525602
>What do all those terms even mean?
>Nonbinary (he/they). 100% gay homosexual.
It means the author is literally 15. Seriously, check her twitter. She is 15.
>>
>>151525640
just email them all dude, one or two will bite.
>>
>>151528012
Huh, that didn't occur to me. Cheers.
>>
>>151528869
the best way is to look up LPs of game similar to yours and write something like "hey, I saw you did _____ so I thought youd'd be interested in _____"
>>
Visual novel about making your girlfriend into an amputee so she can be totally dependent on you
>>
Who want to make vn with me?
>>
>>151531956
About what?
>>
>>151532796
About dicks.
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>>151531956
Not me.
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>>151533172
Pass. I'd let you write a VN about my dick, though.
And I won't take responsability either.
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>>151533787
>I'd let you write a VN about my dick
Show me your dick and I will think about it.
>>
>>151497437
it seems like a cool murder mystery but it's actually a boring slice of life with brothers you can't fug. author was uncomfortable with either the romance or BL aspect of her own story, since they didn't include much of it.

i can't recommend it at that price or the discount unless you really like the devs.
>>
roofies
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>want to make a vn
>can spend hours programming
>can't draw for shit
>all artists are jews

Should I just commit sudoku?
>>
>>151545881
>renpy "programming"
>doesn't even mention writing
Yes.
>>
>>151541730
enjoying anime cons?
>>
>>151545881
>can spend hours programming
>renpy
The sooner you kill yourself the better.
>>
>create light-hearted adventure/comedy vn
>been into drama/thriller shit lately
>want to put serious stuff into vn but it'll clash and become some fucked up mess
sigh
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