/scg/, /edg/, /nmsg/: Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, No Man's

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First for Brabo did nothing wrong.

>left nmsg in

for what purpose

reposting

>>151159090
>3 fighters for an Idris
retard detected.

Bring 9 of them, but have it so that they swap out every now and then for refueling or ammo. Honestly, this can work with 12 if you guys are truly organized. An issue I have with CIG's decision on carrier shit is that they have a hard limit of 3 ships for the Idris. This can be 3 massive Superhornets to fill the whole space, or 3 tiny m50s. I hope they make it so that "whatever fits can land" so that being able to carry a massive amount of m50 for swarm tactics is viable.

>>151159308
Fair point. Looks like it's too late though

>>151159159
NMS has a general now, restart with a new OP.

>>151159314
>retard
You realise the current limit for fighters in the Idris is three, right? Unless they remove the forced limit like they have on the Endeavor it's three, otherwise we'll be filling it to the brim with 28 mini fighters

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>>151159159
/nmsg/ still in

>>151159413
Don't worry. Containment thread still exists.

>>151159563
Then it already has a general, remove it you autistic fuck, like another anon said it's just a beacon for lost shitposters.

Next thread, assuming I'm OP again, I'll remove No Man's Sky from the OP.

>>151159546
It can land 3 fighters, but you can have 6, or really however many others, tag along. When they need fuel, you have your 3 landed fighters take a flight shift and the other fuel up, get ammo, repair, whatever they need. If you think 3 fighters is enough for any kind of Idris, you're dumb. If they keep with the hard limit of 3 fighters per ship, rotating them is the only way to efficiently go about being a carrier.

>>151159842
Anon, you don't understand the concept of containment threads do you? It's okay, reddit is easier to understand.

>>151159842
I didn't make the OP. Pretty sure /v/ will ignore this though once they see the NMS logo.
>>151159887
Sweet as dude

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>exit station
>target obscured by planet
>prepare to supercruise
>all of a sudden target clear
>fuck it

>>151159887
You can't jump or quantum with more than 3 fighters currently, the only point in carrying around fighters rather than just flying with them is because you can carry then protected then deploy them before attacking. It's absolutely retarded to overfill a ship then fly it around unable to even quantum.

>>151160036
>You can't jump or quantum with more than 3 fighters currently

Why not?

>>151160089

Because that's how cig currently have it artifically limited

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14989-MISC-Endeavor-Q-A-Part-2

>>151159996
Why so much heat sink?

>>151159889
Containment threads/boards don't work if you allow their content explicitly in the threads you are trying to keep free of them. Might as well make the next thread

/scg/, /edg/, /mlp/, /utg/

>>151160287
smuggling build I guess. I use it for trading too

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>>151160232
>can't load up an Idris with 30 Merlins
God damn it

>>151160232
Hmm, makes sense.

Gameplay wise it would be bad balance to let folks just load up on dozens of ships just because the space allowed it.

>>151160338
Anon, you aren't able to get this do you? The /v/ shit posters just see the NMS logo and click on it rather than this thread, the NMS thread then contains the shitposters there. You understand reading comprehension right anon?

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>>151160036
I'm making my statements with logical assumptions on how the group mechanics would have to work to effectively support org play. Here's a situation: let's assume you and your organization have 16 ships to move to another system for whatever reason. 1 Idris, 15 Gladii (for simplicity sake). The idris can only have 3 of them landed inside due to hard limit (even though it looks like it can hold 6). Okay, so when you need to Qdrive to another planet, the fighters Qdrive first and the Idris Qdrive last. They all arrive and continue. When the fighters need fuel, they take turns landing and refueling. When they need to go to another system, if CIG intends for any kind of multiplayer in this game, there would be a system for them all to jump together, similar to EVE, so that they all arrive in the same instance.

Rotating ships isn't that complicated. You work around the hard limit by having ships take turns landed.

>>151160089
arbitrary limit.

>>151160338
>implying /v/ will see past the logo
See how this thread goes, Anon. Since I made the /nmsg/ all the shitposting in here stopped. You'll be fine.

>>151160483
>>151160543
I hope you anons are right, but I'm skeptical. I just want a nice comfy space games general. Once /v/ gets bored of NMS I'm sure it'll be fine to share a general.

>>151160795
You'll see. Every new, hyped game is the same. /v/ leaks for a few days then gets bored and moves on. Your thread will be comfy again soon.

>>151161239
Right, no reason we should invite the torrent of shit onto ourselves is all I'm saying.

I backed SC a couple of years ago now but I haven’t really paid attention to it for a while. Have they made any real progress? Is this shit ever going to come out? Are people still buying jpegs of ships for hundreds of dollars?

>>151160795
>fine to share a general

As long as we don't have legitimate shill retardation saying shit like "You just don't get it man"

>>151161424
Does google just not exist for a majority of humanity?

>>151161424
Yes, one day, and yes.

Here's a tip from someone who's been watching the development the whole time: forget about it for another year. I wish I could. It makes the wait a lot easier.

>>151161424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlNldjFmjvw

Here you go anon, this is everything available in a quick viewing format.

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tfw shitty pilot
Who /noncombat/ here?

>>151161569
You just don't get it man. 18 quintillion.

I just realized I bought Starmade a while ago.
Is it worth an install?

>>151161727
>bought Starmade
What? Last time I checked it was free on their website.

>>151161727
Uh kind of?

It's fun for a short time.

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>>151161630
I just wanna race.

https://youtu.be/doEwWzMz99A

>>151160795

As I said in the actual general, it's going to be bad probably for today and the next few days, but I'm wagering that it'll calm down by PC release where it'll have mostly people who are getting it for PC and people who are skeptical but actually want to discuss the PC release to see if they want to buy the PC release if at all. Give it time but I think sharing a general with this one would be foolish, the game just released and we're going to end up flooding this general with NMS discussion and leftover mega autist shitposters that may linger for a week or more.

>>151161630
If you're a shitty pilot then you just need to be a gunner, melt that Orion for a Reclaimer and turn it into a autogun boat

>>151161576
>>151161595
Thanks.

>>151161727
If you like building your own ships and stations, then yes.
Also >>151101637

>>151162338
>/svgg/

Guess I'm going to need to update my list with categories now

>Space Sim
>Voxel Based Space
>Etc

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My autism was spiked with this carrier conversation

Can fleet play or general Idris usage be more viable with something like a small refueling ship? Fuel seems like it's going to be an issue for traveling when an Idris can go forever without refueling but its fighters can only go through 1 or 2 max. So, if CIG makes a ~25m refueling ship as sort of a beginning into a fueling career (rather than having to start and end your progression with a massive Starfarer) much like how they have the Prospector for beginner mining, you could very well have 3 of them on board an Idris, have them come out to refuel a large compliment of fighters, and then come back and land to get their fuel back to repeat in the next star system. You can probably have NPCs do that job too.

/autism

>>151161925
Or he can be a miner? Sitting in a turret is an AI job. It looks boring as fuck for people who don't RP.

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>>151163072
I can see SC fuel rats already

>>151163410
>I can see SC fuel rats already

I can see it actually being a way to earn some cash instead of silly RP.

See in SC you can actually pay other folks money for services.

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>>151163673
>See in SC you can actually pay other folks money for services

I know...

>>151163749
I never understood why they don't allow that in Elite.

It could create actual emergent gameplay.

>>151163823
dads

their main argument is that a noob could get donated a whole bunch of money and they crash their expensive ship and then complain on the forums,or that they'd "skip the game" or some shit

thing is the dads are the ones flying without rebuy 90% of the time they they complain when they get destroyed by a player or a NPC

>>151163823
The dads think that if actual player trading is allowed chinese bots will start taking over the game.

>>151163947
>>151163993
dads are fucking retarded

>>151163072
Oh shit anon I see it now, a small cargoship conversion that can't gather fuel but can pick it up and travel out to sell it at profit via a small refueling dock.

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>>151164070

You're telling us.

>>151163410
i'm not sure the hatred against the fuel rats is warranted. they are dads just like all the other dads, except they went and did something outside the narrative of the game. in a game where you have no inventory and you can't give money to other players, you have no reason to help other players, these dads went out of their way to help other dads with their fuel problems not because this was a legit form of game progression but rather because they could.

the anger clearly stems from how frontier, even when faced with this prime example of what sort of player-player interactions the dads WANT from the game, still refuse to deliver on the potential of the game. it's so painful to have to watch these dads go out of their way to do things completely unsupported by game mechanics even when it means they have to resort to roleplaying just because there's some vague fear that player-player interactions will be abused or what have you.

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>>151163993
>>151163947
>>151164070
>dad
I'm unfamiliar with this meme. Explain please?

>>151164396
>review of a pizza

anyone else played star trek online? kind of sucks those cryptic jews never cared about PVP.

>>151164553
old geezers who played the original elite in the 80's and believe that was the pinnacle of game design

>>151164576
>star trek online?

Preordered it played through the year of no content. Played some more years after that. Eventually lost interest.

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>>151163072
>small refueling ship
Probably not your definition of small, but the Crucible is supposed to be able to do that. I really hope they don't fuck it up. It sounds like the ideal support ship.

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>>151163673
Not yet, but some day.

>>151164264
Sort of. I was thinking of a dedicated fueling design. Basically: the starfarer at a much smaller scale, so 25 meters, that way 3 can fit in an Idris hangar. It would make sense for it to have fuel scoops to offer the full career potential. I think the Hull C and above have what you're referring to.

>>151163410
It would be pretty cool honestly. With that you could make fleet gameplay viable. I want to see the fleet strategies go into play some day. But I'm still salty over the hard limit for carrier ships. They said that future tech may be able to remove the hard limit, but for now it stays.

>not allowed to fill an Idris with m50s like last thread to BTFO everything and everyone
>not able to load a million dragonflys for literal swarm gameplay
why even live

>>151164424
People's over-reliance on them probably draws some ire. As long as they don't bitch about people "not playing the way they approve", they're fine in my mind. Those are the only people that I truly hate.

I want Lakon spaceways to do Alliance ships so we can have Alliance DBS (2S 2M 1L lol) and a combat oriented Alliance Type 7 (1H 3L)

>>151164424
You're right, the Fuel Rats should be commended for thinking out of the box in a game that usually slaps you down hard if you even think about playing the game in ways the designers didn't envision.

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>>151164836
The crucible is literally the best support ship in the game, but when it pertains to lugging it around for space combat, it doesn't seem ideal. With my current understanding of the Idris, it can repair rearm and refuel ships it carries. You won't need to rearm anything but missiles since any non-retard would have their fighter compliment use only energy weapons. Repair needs to be done only after a battle, so not very frequently, but refueling needs to be done twice every system.

I don't know. I'm just spitting out my autistic thoughts into the thread. They're nice ideas, but so is the most of Star Citizen for now.

>>151165916
>but refueling needs to be done twice every system.

mistake on my implication, but meant to say frequently, or at least twice every system.

>>151165025
you'd just get an Alliance Asp

it would have 420m/s boost speed

Elite: Dadgerous; screenshot simulator

>>151165916
>any non-retard would have their fighter compliment use only energy weapons
If energy weapons worked properly. Right now (and for the past patches) ballistics have been ridiculously op compared to energy weapons. They definitely need to fix that sooner than later.

>No Man's Sky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq_YEgwd58k

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>>151166376
Ballistics are supposed to be better. They punch through shields with damage reduction and hit the hull, and eventually hit components. Yes, some balance is needed, but consider this: in a full scale universe that SC plans to be, running out of ammo in the middle of bumfuck nowhere is basically death. I've run out of ammo countless times in AC and simply killed myself to get back ammo, but that's TDM. It's not a viable tactic in PU since ammo restoration could be 3 planets away, or no where if you're star system a shit. Energy weapons, on the other hand, work so long as your ship has energy, so basically forever. They have a problem with overheating, but any good pilot knows how to deal with that.

This is hypothetical, but if an idris has 4 "hardware resupply" slots, you could very well fill them all with missiles instead of ammo that runs out very quickly when they could all just not be space shitters and watch their energy weapon heating. They won't punch through hulls until they get down the shields but for the long run it's the superior choice in my opinion.

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>>151166298
>>151165025

me and my autism made something

>>151167305
Out of all the things you could hate about NMS, I think what I hate the most are the disgusting pastel colours.

>>151167345
Yeah, sure. And I agree. But they definitely need to work on the balance. Right now ballistics are so much stronger that the ammo limitation just isn't enough of a drawback. Ships smaller than the Hornet or Sabre running energy weapons just aren't viable because they are unable to even get through shields properly.

Might as well post here.

So why is the combat in Elite so bland? Outside of turning radius the ships I fight and fly don't really feel different and it always seems to end in a turning contest.

Have flight sims and energy fighting spoiled me?

>>151168913
yes

use FAOFF to spice things up I guess

>>151167305
>it really just was a newgame+

HHHHHHAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

>>151169049
That just makes the ship wobble a lot for me and effectively useless. Any trick to it?

>>151163072
The entire point of a carrier is to refuel and rearm fighters.

If you're stuffing refuelling ships into an Idris all you're doing is making a Starfarer but worse

>>151169221
throttle and thruster control, aka git gud

listen to eurobeat and go do strafing drifting runs with your gunship/conda/Type 9

>>151168913
it's the yaw speed

if you could realistically maneuver the ships i have a nagging suspicion that it'd actually make flying ships more fun, but muh ww2 fighter combat i guess

can't have dads accidentally yaw too much and crash into an asteroid or whatever the fuck the reason is they made flying so fucking boring

>>151169501
But WW2 combat is interesting this is flying a Zero in space against other Zeroes and noone can run or do fuck all but turn once the fight started.

Missiles any good? Havent bothered with those last time I played.

>>151169324
>eurobeat
Well at least we have the same shittaste.

ED: why you no have turrets be good and only exist for huge mounts so that big ships are more like big ships?

>>151169969
I just want BVR combat

today a fighter jet can lock on and missile a target that's over 50 miles away, why the fuck not in 3302? Also all ships need to be significantly faster. Like even the Type 9 should be able to hit 1km/s in boost

>>151170145
>mfw I can visually identify ships before my ship's computer and sensors can.

>>151170252
in the fucking 34th century, ain't that a shame

>>151169984
Can't have a capship sim Anon. No clue why but you can't.

>>151170145
I wouldn't mind some really basic DCS BVR. I love WW2 shit but Elite took the non fun parts of it. You can't have no energy management and expect it to be anything but a turnfest.

>>151169984
>not throwing your battleconda around like a sack of potatoes in FAOFF and unloading waves of missiles on the enemy

What's an energy management.

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>>151169235
Here's the difference: Starfarers can't fit inside an Idris. they would have to tag along behind the commanding ship, so it would be a prime target for enemies to shoot at. This means you'd have to dedicate resources to protecting another a large ship, an easily destroyable one at that. Not only that, but I think currently it can only refuel one ship at a time anyway. The point of having 3 smaller refueling ships is for drastically reducing the time it takes to refuel, and they can be protected effortlessly inside of the Idris. If CIG actually makes their goal of tons of people in the same area (hundreds of people and NPCs across multiple servers working together) then large battlegroups will need this.

If a very large, hypothetical group had 31 ships (1 capital, 3 refuelers, 27 fighters; 9 squadrons of 3 fighters) you can set it up so that when refueling time comes around, the ship tenders come out and have squadrons refuel in a pre set order. Certain sqauds get allocated to specific refueler ships, and the others go into the hangar to refuel. An operation that would've taken a long time can be done much faster since there are now 4 places to refuel. I take particular note to refueling because, as stated before, fuel is needed in every system, so being able to reduce the time it takes to do mundane shit is essential to efficient operations.

>>151170635
How fast you are going or how high up you are and trading between altitude/distance and speed in a fight.

Inertia might be the word.

It's a thing for flight sims and all of course so really only partially applicable. But if you're gonna do dogfights and remove this kind of "mechanic" the fights get really boring.

>>151171016
Starfarer Gemini's are designed to take punishment, unlike piddly little refuellers.

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>>151171428
>Starfarer Gemini's are designed to take punishment
They really need to up the shields on larger shields. Maybe that's just the Starfarerfag in me talking, but right now even a single fighter can down the shields in seconds and destroy the thing without too much effort.
also it's fucking ugly compared to the regular Starfarer

>>151172237
>larger shields
I'm apparently retarded. Larger ships of course.

>>151172237
It looks like someone glued a football helmet to a box and added some balls on a string at the back. The interior is comfy though, I give them that.

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>>151171428
>still bound to be focused by enemies
>still needing resources to defend
>still can only refuel one at a time rather than 3 separate refueling stations

no. And the strength of the small refuellers is irrelevant because they are non-combatants. They won't see combat since they will sit in the hangar until they're needed. Never ever let logistical vehicles see combat, never ever bet on their defensive capabilities in large scale warfare.

>>151172237
Have they even implemented the Large shield set yet? I don't think they have. I'm sure they will when other large ships come about, but currently small shields and medium shields are here because 95% of the ships we currently have use small and medium equipment.

Hey, elite fags, is it more cost effective to load your sothisconda with 200ly worth of fuel and only refuel once, or leave it for cargo space and refuel at pretty much every star?

>>151172595
I don't think so. Stuff like reworked shields and the ballistic penetration/armor system have been right around the corner for like 1,5 years now.

>>151172725
if you gotta get a fuel tank they get 400+ LY range. What you're describing is the worst of both worlds

>>151167510
Your Vulture needs to go on a diet.

>>151173021
What tank would I need for that?

>>151172595
I think what you're talking about is potentially viable, just not in the fleet sizes we'll ever see in SC.

Removing the entire fighter wing of an idris is just too much of a downside.

>>151173030
that's the idea actually: a bigger, badder, FAS. which is already a bigger, badder vulture, basically. Made by Core/Lakon because why the fuck not. There's already a Core/gutamaya ship

>>151173215
7C. 320 cargo capacity with 4A shields and a discovery scanner.

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>>151173346
>removing

I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say. reread >>151171016
The fighters that tag along will be with the Idris, but the space inside of the idris isn't for fighters to just sit around. They'll fly with the Idris. With this kind of strategy you can field more fighters and save time refueling. I know it's all hypothetical. My expectation for this game to release is well into 2019 or 2020, so by then I'd have faith that they can get significant amounts of people into the same instances. They have the money and time with plenty of space for optimizations. New tech and more powerful hardware will probably be around as well.

IF ONLY THEY WOULDN'T MAKE THE SQ42 EPISODES BACK TO BACK

>>151173346
Even if an SC "fleet" consists of an idris and 12 fighters, having a small ship tender would still be useful.

>>151172237
>mfw I made that image

The asspained Freelancer faggots tears in that thread were wonderful.

>>151174489
Theres a reason you don't see F/A-18s flying alongside already full carriers, anon.

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>>151172237
Shields are a mess across the board right now. No point in doing anything about balance until the lazy fuckers finally add their new unnecessary multi-shield unit system in.

>>151163993
Yeah. They cant even get players in a group to land in the same instance....but bots will take over?

They go full retard. Its the only thing they go 100% on.

>>151174786
Because real life fighters require constant maintenance, use fuel at all times of operation, are susceptible to significant weathering, and can't float or fly in any direction they want to therefore forcing them to fly in circles?

SC will have none of these issues. Ships will not be tremendous hassles to maintain with thousands of parts, use fuel only when Qdriving (and not a lot btw), don't have to slow down for environmental shit other than easily avoidable asteroirds, and can fly at any speed they want to in any direction they want to. If the expectation for capital ships in SC is that they can only bring along the 3 or 4 fighters they can hold inside them, than they will be utterly useless. There's no reason, given the game mechanics, that you cannot rotate out multiple squadrons of fighters.

>>151175603
>SC will have none of these issues.

They've explictly stated the opposite, actually.

>>151175142
>orange HUD and red alerts
for a second i thought this was elite dangerous

>>151175603
Sigh... imagine a version of Star Citizen where the Hornet and Sabre were short range carrier based ships that needed massive support to function compared to ships like the Avenger or 300i.

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Will i have problems travelling here with a more or less 35 to 38 jump range?
I found a good amount of white dwarves and neutron stars to grind
However i fear that i'll get stranded somewhere around that shitass zone

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>>151161812
Brother.

>>151175245
Is this whole dad thing just a meme or did they actually fuck up all the fun parts of this game?

>>151175817
>ships will require maintenance after almost every flight
>ships space "weathering" will be significant to the point of making ships dangerous to use after a few flights
>ships use their fuel at all times
>ships don't have 6 DOF nor can they fly at any speed they wish (within their max limit)

Sources for any of these?
The only thing up there that I know will exist is weathering, but not to the point of making them unfield-able after a few flights like real aircraft. It's mostly visual with components being replaced every now and then.

>>151176081
You would end up with Avenger fleets, angry fighter pilots, and a dead game if fighters needed carriers to do anything. Might as well be a carebear

>>151176296
Not a meme.

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>>151175982
it was from when they had just got the Scout flyable and it was using the Vanduul UI

>>151176296
Dads is not a meme. These people legit believe that if players were allowed to trade that somehow chinese gold farmers would buy copies of the game.

Mind you, ed is fuckyouhuge. Except for the shitty start point there isnt a real congregation point. The instancing is 32 players. The networking is p2p. The dads usually play solo or private group.

Somehow someway bots.

Thats just one tiny example. Ive been kicked off the forums too many times asking if pescisk is a paid employee of ftroop. Havent been back in years because its just not worth it.

>>151176443
>You would end up with Avenger fleets, angry fighter pilots, and a dead game if fighters needed carriers to do anything. Might as well be a carebear
It should be expressed in the actual range.

Where the short-range fighters have enough fuel to only go one and a half systems, while the ships with medium range can reach three or four, and the actual long-range ships can go seven or ten.

>>151176948
Sounds fun.

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>>151176443
>You would end up with Avenger fleets, angry fighter pilots, and a dead game if fighters needed carriers to do anything. Might as well be a carebear
As opposed to the current game which bends over backwards to make the sure the Hornet is viable in every situation. It's a great fighter, it has a jump engine and has the same range as the rest of the small ships, it can hold as much cargo as an Aurora, it can be equipped with ewar capabilities, needing beds was likely scrapped because it might give the hornet an actual disadvantage, etc

>>151177408
Still mad that they just casually added the S4 mount.

>>151164576
In the end I just ERP'd in it. Couldn't keep up DPS-wise after the fall of Aux2Batt and the beamscort meta. I might have to go back sometime.

>>151177024
But that's exactly how it would be planned.

>>151175817
>he thinks SC ships will be as complicated as real life ships

Nope. I don't see an issue with bringing more than 3 ships with an Idris.

>>151177408
Hornets die very quickly to Sabres, 2 or more smaller fighters, or Vanguards. They're fantastic fighters but they aren't the end all to combat.

>needing beds was likely scrapped
I have seen no indication of this. Beds will still have uses, and it is a very real disadvantage to single seat fighters in sparse areas.

>>151177408
>carries more cargo than an aurora
at the cost of 1/3rd of its firepower. The hornet is mostly a dedicated fighter. There are a lot of things it can't do in relation to other ships, but what it can do, it does best.

>>151164880
>stuffing an Idris full of m50s

But then that would be extremely OP. The clown car idris would be hilarious the first time though.

Can we, in SC, so far add any weapon to any slot as long as the size requirements are met? Or are there currently limitations?

do we have a good discord or are the furries still in it?

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>>151181642
First time on 4chan?

>>151181778
Sounds like you missed the last thread

i cant work up the motivation to unlock certain engineers just so i can have a snazzy combat ship

i dont want to mine shitloads of stuff just so i can have huge hull reinforcements

>>151178358
3 xS3 guns still puts it ahead of every other small ship that can hold cargo.

Hornet ghosts will likely be the best smuggling ships in the game since they finally allowed it to equip a cargo box.

>>151182224
>best smuggling ship

I still believe that the best smuggling ship in the game might be a Merchantman. So long as Ben doesn't touch it.

>>151181930
??

>>151177393
Mining in elite sucks. You drill a rock and hope something worthwhile comes out and hope the pirates arent too annoying. Most of the ships you would fit for mining arent very manuverable so you had to scoop each chunk out one at a time and depending on the purity was between 3 and 6 chunks to make 1 ton of refined product. Only gold and platnium sold for much so only pristine mettalic sold.

People wanted a tractor beam to scoop instead of manual scooping and the dads hated on the idea and thought it was best if you scooped manually.

Ftroop semi relented and added drones which dads were against as well. Drones take up space require a controller and crash often because the ai is terrible. 1 limpet is 1 ton of cargo but last 7-10 min depending on the controller that takes up a ship slot.

Dads are terrible and stupid but ftroop only partially listened to them in thi one instance.

>>151181969

this

the mods i want lie behind an engie that wants 25 of the ultra-rare nigh legendaru modular terminals before he will talk to me, let alone give me an invite. then i need to travel 5k ly out to even be considered for palin. fuck. all motivation = gone

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>>151182551
Have they produced an alien ship that wasn't overpriced crap yet? Until I see it in game, I assume the BMM will just be a fancy looking 250 dollar Constellation Taurus.

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So what is NMS like?

Another repetitive shit with nothing to do?

Just as we predicted?

>>151183287
Trying a bit too hard there, buddy. Some shitposters actually put in more effort.

>>151183225
No. It will hold more cargo and is supposedly some kind of mobile marketplace, whatever that means in regards to selling cargo.

>>151183287
Go ask /nmsg/. Almost all NMS posters went there to defend their game.

>>151182851
Why would anyone want that? I feel like I'd have more fun with this game if it was less of a grind and all, but of course we can't have that because it has multiplayer.

I might just go back to playing Freelancer despite how damn crowded that space feels.

>>151183457

ED and SC have made shitposters lazy and NMS is just too easy to shitpost on. It's like space games are basically babbys first shitpost topic. What sad state of affairs. Oh, Rogue System, please deliver us from this horror, you're our final hope.

>>151183287
3D starbound.

>>151183896
Does Rogue System have any content other than Space DCS as is?

Or will it suffer from the same fate as DCS in that it won't have any content beyond learning how to fly your plane?

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>Derek hasn't posted anything remotely funny for nearly 24 hours

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>nms
>That last minute delay for US PC.

>>151184750
Did you preorder?
If not, why even be upset, senpai, just play something else until you pirate it.

>>151184902

I bought it through GoG.

>>151184073

IDK, lost track of development because too much work this year. Right now that one is the only thing giving me hope that space games won't die off again. ED is boring. SC is buggy. NMS looks like Spore level fail. Enemy Starfighter is... good for about 4 hours. X-Rebirth is really X-Abortion.

WTF is it with the space sim genre? Where is my Freespace 3? My iWar 3? GIVE ME BACK MUH GOOD SIMS! *sob*

>>151185075
I preordered through steam because I don't like GoG's service ever since they dicked me out of Heroes of Might and Magic 3's full version.

>>151185572
Please don't preorder games.

>>151185506
SC still has hope. Just eat healthy and run a lot so that we might survive long enough to see the finished product.

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>>151183225
The Banjew Merchandice Market is basically a Hull-C except it's cargo is held internally and much more dificult to knock off

It's also got MOAR DAKKA and makes the tantive IV blush at it's mighty blockade running speed

those aren't engines you pleb

>>151163993
would that even be a bad thing? it might add some flavour to the galaxy, having creatures out there somewhere between player and NPC who you'll never be sure just what they're up to.

>>151184424
>still giving a damn about what derek says
It's not even funny at this point. It hasn't been since last year.

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>>151180717
Limit theory did it better

>>151186791
If the BMM really has guns the size of auroras (Size 10?) can we see it become some sort of corvette or capital hunter? 3 of these chasing your ass with ample fighters would be shitting-bricks tier.

>>151186420

I think I'll sooner see Dwarf Fortress 1.0... But hope dies last.

If NMS had been marketed as solo play Elite: pastel edition, would we be seeing the backlash we do now?

>>151187491
>hope

Don't anticipate: forget. Forget about SC for a while if you can. The game development continues. Considering what has been shown so far, forgetting about SC another year or 2 might be ideal.

>>151187665
certainly not.

>>151185506

>SC is buggy

no fucking shit, it's not even close to being done

>>151180717
game? never seen a station like that

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>mfw i warp to a neutron star the first time
>that little shit seemed so far away but it's actually 0.18 LS away

>>151186306
Why?

>>151187741

My doubt lies in whether if will ever be done. I don't think it won't be like Dwarf Fortress which can go on for decades unfinished and still be fun to play. I should do like >>151187704
suggests, and to be hones I have. This year I have too much work to really play anything or barely give shits to post on /vg/.

You think they'll be able to finish it? I really hope so. 2 more years and I'll retire and if SC is finished that's where I'd like to spend my retirement at.

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>>151187393
Merchantman has been described as being convertable to Q-ship, so yes

>2948
>be space pirate
>crusing in my polaris enjoying my npc bot crew
>out of fucking terra export rum again
>got plenty of nyx toilet wine but fuck that
>need to get more when i spot a pubby flying merchantman
>fucking pubbies
>"i bet that fag has some rum"
>navigate my ship towards his and try to raise him pretending i need help
>fucking pubbies always fall for this shit
>he doesn't respond
>"captain sharthawk, prepare to fire" i say to myself before fiddling with the interface
>just as i bring my weapons online i notice the merchantman react
>it's not a cargoship
>it's a q-ship with more forward firepower than three constellations
>it's hull is filled with 50 basesuit baldies the pilot picked up at the starting system
>they're all armed
>i've never felt more alone as i take a breath and prepare to be boarded in the rear
>FUCKING BOARDERS GET OFF MY SHIP REEEEE

>>151188206
> 2 more years and I'll retire
Dads confirmed in the general, shut it down

>>151187393
Did what better, the art? I wont contest that limit theory is more aesthetically pleasing but I am pretty sure that is a sky box that an artist painted and not a navigable celestial body. If that is what you are saying there is not much of a ground for comparison based on that those two renderings of a planet serve different purpose.

>>151188607

Not quite a dad, just very thrifty.

>>151188206

It's definitely going to be finished my dude. Chris Roberts is too autistic not too. Forgetting is your best bet. I backed in 2012 and came back for 2.0 and I'm pleased with progress atm but still recommend people forget about it until release.

Planets soon tho

>>151188551
>Q-ship
What does this term mean?

>>151189196
I'll spoonfeed you once, anon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q-ship

>Q-Ships were heavily armed merchant ships with concealed weaponry, designed to lure submarines into making surface attacks. This gave Q-ships the chance to open fire and sink them

>>151189196

Qapital

>>151189313
>I'll spoonfeed you once, anon
I could do without the sarcasm, but that was a very interesting article about a term I had never heard before.

>>151189530
You could do without my cock in your mouth but you happily accept that too

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>>151188206
Yes. I'm going to forget about SC starting this september when wrestling season starts again + classes

This year I managed to forget about SC for 2 months. I plan to go from september to march this time. I'll skip citizencon and wait for a massive update in march, or really occupy myself and forget about it until I hear about it in the news. I'd much rather get off the ride for 4 years than to wait week by week. It's totaly doable too.

>>151188707
No, it's an actual object.

>>151188551
>Idris captain and his 18 fighters float around looking for trouble
>Enter: death squadron
>comprised of 4 banu merchantmens packing S10 murder canons with an escort of 14 m50s
>hfw he can't outrun BMMs
>hfw little nigger m50s never die
>hfw focus fired by 8 S10s

>>151189613
Post yfw the Q-Ship OP Merchantman can have it's cargo space converted to hold 5 m50s

>>151189810
That won't happen, sadly. See >>151160232

>>151189613
>>151188551

The fucking merchantman is going to make up the backbone of 95% of pirate and outlaw fleets that couldn't afford a Idris/Polaris, isn't it? I saw have saw this coming, it even looks like a 16th century sailboat

>>151189969
these are both posts by me, keep in mind the limit is per ship and the javelin can still hold 10+ gladiators and atleast 2 retaliators

>>151190071
>outlaw fleets
>having large command ships

Hell no. Idrii and polarises are for stealing and reselling, or nuking if you're a hired gun. Outlaws could never afford something like that and it would slow them down. I even doubt player outlaws to use caterpillars. Maybe for a central command ship they'd use something like a constellation or redeemer since those are smaller, easier to replace, and obviously more nimble than larger ships, and probably harder to be detected.

>>151190226
Please tell me you morphed 3 posts into one, because if you think the Javelin's tiny ass hangar can hold anymore than 2 or 3 tightly fit small fighters, you're retarded. The hangar is not that large.

>>151187393
I doubt it will be allowed to have retracting capital ship tier guns. Probably will end up with a pair of S5's that permanently stick out the sides of the ship and ruin the sexy profile.

It would be nice if they allowed it to be converted into a pocket carrier. The game desperately needs one. Seems like all there is right now is a science/medical vessel with a hanger module, a military frigate, and a flying auto shop.

>>151190640
>Javelin

Fucking shitty charity shop missing pieces legoset of a ship, I meant the Bengal

>>151190640

Are you aware that several furry and/or shitter pirate orgs that have not one but multible idrii already?

>>151186826
I don't take him seriously, but the cringe he produces is, at least for me, comedy gold.

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>>151190823
The Bengal's certainly confirmed for holding a shit ton of ships. The Javelin will be lucky to match an Idris' fighter capacity.

>25 Modular Terminals
fuck my ass

>>151190071
>>151188551
Ii feel like the cat is going to be the player pirate mainstay, with the mm being more conducive to traditional jewry.

>>151191207
>laughing at the mentally ill
Not okay.

>>151191229
The Javelin can only hold a single Redeemer or four merlins, it's severely limited. The Idris is definitely the current mini-carrieR

>>151191142
Currently crewed by hopes and dreams. A lot of money spent on theorycraft.

>>151190823
The bengal can hold way more than 10 fighter bombers. I'd put it at around 100+ since there's so much space in there. That doesn't include something like 4 Retaliators. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLvpaYD0GYM to know that there's lots of space.

>>151191142
And just how useful is a capital ship going to be when you're trying to steal other ships? The expenses for running it will probably be worth more than what you can steal. It's useless to pirates.

>>151190757
I will wager that it will get its own Banu weaponry that can't be swapped out for human guns. They can't be S5s. That would look too stupid and be useless against larger ships considering that apparently a Constellation has 4 of them now. If that becomes the case, take 4 constellations and you'd have a much stronger team comp for fucking everyone's asshole.

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So first people to try no man's sky, is it actually fun? I've been watching lirik play, and it seems like the game is really annoying with limited inventory and one planet he had non-stop hostiles attacking him. Seems not very fun. Thoughts?

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>>151192069

>>151192243
for which part? I responded to 3 posts.

>>151185506
>iWar
Was the second one open world? I got stuck in some nebula during the tutorial and haven't tried since.

Also Star Shatter or something like that was a pretty neat game just for some carrier and fleet ops.

>In Elite Dangerous
>got 4 heatsink interlinks or some shit from a mission
>literally only thing in cargo
>plot route to system 3 jumps away
>first jump
>"Big haul like that, surprised you made it this far"
>interdicted while still charging jump to next system
>still, do the minigame until my bar is full
>align with destination
>"Align with ship trajectory"
>by now my interdiction bar is full, assume i'll get away anyway
>NOPE FUCK YOU, FSD FAILURE
i went to task manager and i ended that shit
you dont fuck me over like that and expect me to take it

>>151192167
They split off thei own general. Expect defensiveness to be at maximum.

>>151192489
All of it

>>151192814
I would assume /vg/ can be critical. I mean its a 60 dollar game, so it has to be really worth it in my opinion. Doesn't matter if theres a lot of planets if all of them suck

>>151192789
your interdiction escape vector and jump vector have to coincide to allow you to jump escape

I think that's bullshit, hyperjump should be an escape anyway

Yeah. First one was kick ass too. But second one was more sandboxy and pretty much everything I wish E:D had been. Never got much into Starshatter myself, but I did love the concept.

>>151193023
Not only that, because you arent flying through space in a straight line because he is hurling you around sideways, your orientation, escape vector, and the jump vector need to work together.

>>151192964

The number of stars in that game is ABOUT the number of molecules in your average log of shit.

>>151193153
I just got Starshatter because it has decent looking capship combat in it ... shame its annoying to get the resolution to be ok.

So you are saying I should just play IWar 2? Is the grind for the capship à la IWar 1 at the end worth it? The tug you start with feels shit.

Hol up
aren't destroyers larger than frigates

>>151192838
Citation for Bengal carrier is video. It has plenty of space for fighters. 100 does not seem like too much for a Bengal carrier, although that would mainly be for show and Sq42 since I doubt we'd be able to do that in-game

CIG has stated multiple times that expenses for capital ships will be high, and logic follows that pirates would not want to use massive, slow and expensive ships so that they can steal some Hull C's cargo.

The third one is currently unprovable since I didn't save the pic, but some avocadanon posted pics of the new m7a on vangaurds and constellations and I believe the Starfarer G turret.

>>151192069
>Constellation has 4 of them now
I thought the connie's main gun hardpoints were S4 and the ship will eventually come with gimbaled S3 guns instead of the current loadout, once they actually fucking add S4 gimbals.

I have 233 million credits, should I stay with my ASPie, or upgrade to an Anaconda?

>>151193636
[citation needed]

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some guy made this last night and then never posted it

>>151193634
They are. In regards to SC the Javelin Destroyer is about 100m larger than the 250m Idris frigate

>>151193589

I' ll say it's better than ED and SC and all the other crap that's out right now.

>>151193634
Corvette > Frigate > Destroyer > Cruiser > Battlecruiser > Carrier > Dreadnaught

This is how a Star Citizen ''do''

>>151193763
Do you really think Roberts would let anyone downgrade his shipfu?

>>151193636
>some avocadanon
That's me, but I'm not home atm. I can post more when I get back if you want.

>>151194162
Do you know how greater than/less than signs work?

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>Ship is a goddamn vertically orientated flying wing with pivoting ball thrusters.
>By most reports, the ship's pitch movement is vastly stronger than it's yaw movement.

How is this even possible? I hope it's flight model in the test realm is just a place holder. Bad enough they seem to have ditched the horizontal mode=fast/vertical mode=agile concept.

If i want to do Sothis runs in an Anaconda, what build should i use?

>>151194059
I just need some space feels fix and have IWar on GoG so why not. I remember not great controls but might check it out again.

>>151194162
It's still kinda funny how Dreadnought has managed to somehow become equivalent with a giant battleship in a lot of these. Considering it predated the battleship as a class IRL and is smaller.

>>151194913
The only build good enough for it come along when you _____________________________uninstall____________________________________________________________________

>>151194543
Yes please, I want to see it on the connie and Vanguard. Could you eventually make a webm of shooting it? I must seem more bruv.

>>151194568
I never liked the Reliant idea. It was designed based off of a poll and career specific ships lost to this piece of fragile shit. It's gimmicky and pointless other than looking cool once or twice.

>>151194568
Ships have different flight models and behave differently based on their thruster configuration. For a ship like that, it makes sense that primary maneuverability is in the ED sphere of movement due to the engine configuration. If they start going too far in that direction though I'm gonna be pissed.

>>151195192
You think you can hide your mistake anon?
I saw what you did

>>151195192
too late, we already read it

>>151195192

This is just embarrassing anon

>>151195479
>>151195503
>>151195718
pls no bully ;_;

>>151196032
Admit it, you deserve this for fucking up that badly

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>>151196032
How do you forget spoiler tags?

>>151194568
probably because the balance of size vs output for thrusters is way off; that thing has a couple dinky little jets out at the wingtips that are no doubt exerting almost as much force as the main engines that are much closer to the center of gravity. also appreciate that there is no drag in space so the wing shape really is not relevant in any way. I bet that horizontal config will be a game changer if and when they throw this beast into the new aerodynamics system for planet landing.

>>151194978

Ha, controls are probably crap, but at the time I thought it was pretty nifty you could do *everything* by using the hat control on the stick.

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>>151194978
>Dreadnought
>predated the battleship as a class IRL and is smaller
Not quite.
Brace for TL;DR history

Historical 'Battleships' were what we generally call pre-dreadnoughts. Most had four big guns, half a dozwn medium caliber guns, and a dozen or more small acliber guns.

Then came the 'all-big gun battleship', commonly called 'dreadnoughts' after the first ship that followed the concept.
Generally speaking, these ships eliminated all teh medium calibers guns, and some of the small caliber guns to have between eight and ten big guns.

Parallel to the development of the dreadnoughts, there are battlecruisers. These are ships that are as fast (or faster) than the armored cruisers that existed then, have armor to shrug off hits from those armored cruisers, and carry the same guns as the dreadnoughts.

This was followed by what was essentially an evolutionary step, larger, better armored, often slightly faster ships which were commonly called 'super-dreadnoughts'

This, in turn, was followed by a move towards what was later called a 'fast battleship', a ship that was as fast as a battlecruiser but armored and armed like a superdreadnought.

In reality, this whole development was in no way organized, was interrupted by WW1 and the naval treaties, and to muddy the waters completely post WW2 people called their ships whatever the fuck they found it politically opportune to call them, which means we have cruisers that are the same size as destroyers, frigates that are larger than some destroyers, aircraft carriers that are called cruisers or destroyers, and the roles between them are so unclear that it isn't even funny anymore.

tl;dr: They'll call their shipclasses whatever they want, just laugh and run with it.

>>151195192
>career specific ships lost to this piece of fragile shit.
The terripin was never a mining specific ship. It was a slow, but sturdy multirole option for people didn't want a fast, agile ship like the avenger or 300i

It had some flavor text about people converting them to mining ships which meant at most it would have a mining variant.

And this was all back before CIG decided mining was some super special thing that ships had to be built around rather than converted into.

>>151194568
I am really down with the better better role and pitch then yaw fight model. While I don't mind the current set up for most sc ships there is no intensive to use my hotas set up over a mouse, and while I know sticks arent for every body they can be fun and it would not hurt to have a few ships option that are suited for them.

>>151199045
>any ship "suited" for hotas

Fuck off, perhaps?

>>151199045
How would any ship not be suited for hotas?

Havent played SC in ages but it's a space game, shouldn't have trouble to play with a stick. Unless pvp has a huge bias towards the mouse like MWO or something.

>>151200215
Gimbals are incredibly useful in Star Citizen, but the HOTAS has a massive advantage at fixed shooting, which gives you a massive damage boost over gimbals. So it's a trade-off, with neither having a set advantage. Personally, I find fixed weapons to be more useful, but I've been dealing with that sort of thing for the better part of a decade and a half, so that doesn't say much. It's pretty interesting how they've managed to give it a trade-off thing going on instead of favoring one over the other exclusively.

Anyone know what the percentage is for friendly in Elite Dangerous?
I'm at 33% and still only cordial

>>151195432
>Could you eventually make a webm of shooting it
I'll do that later, but I need to download the new patch first. Might take a while, I have to limit the speed so I can play EDF 4.1 online during the download.

>>151200215
>>151200798

Yeah I think the mouse vs hotas things is fairly balanced but if you have have learned to use a stick with roll on the stick's side to side and yaw on the twist, then I think it is a little less efficient. I.e. in sc you are yawing more often then you roll and for me at least that uses the twist axis which I don't thinks is as comfy. Now that I have though it all through it dose seem a bit nit picky but since I do have a reliant I wont be bothered if I have to roll more to fly it efficiently.

>>151187665
console shitters don't know what elite is so no

>>151200798
this is as it should be, nobody seems to appreciate that. trade-offs and compromise are what the different weapon loadouts are all about, it's called balance. I have no idea why people can't grasp this extending to peripherals irl.

anyway, gamepad is the true top dog, giving you gimbals and stick control at the same time, and being the only interface that allows you to independently operate gimbals while maneuvering.

>>151201631
I don't mean that literally, I just mean in the sense of rather than saying YOU CAN DO ANYTHING they had been honest about the depth of it all.

>>151201156
post the pictures you had from before

>>151201535
Fair point, but as I grew up with Wing Commander I'm used to sending my non-dominant hand flying to the keyboard at a moment's notice for any function I can't do on the joystick, which was most of them (and continues to be because I can't afford a HOTAS). So Rolling and twisting with the keyboard didn't really strike me as difficult or new.

A pretty good setup is probably rolling with pedals so you can focus on the non-movement functions, but that would require money I don't have to spend on things I can do perfectly fine without.

>>151202054
Controller balance is really important, I agree. The gamepad still has a major drawback in the lack of enough buttons to truly control every motion independently. You'll get a lot of pilot strain trying to go between the gamepad and keyboard constantly, so it's not quite top-dog, especially when you start getting into the deeper functions of your ship.

There's hardly any SC ships with strong yaw though. Aside from the Sabre (despite it having the same thruster placement as the pitch focused Gladius) I even think of one.

>>151202206
Being honest is not good marketing.

These space games with INFINITE POSSIBILITIES are sold on the hype. it has been so for 30 years..

It's astounding that it still works, but the gaming community in general has short memory.

>>151202445
you're right about the gamepad. If I could just make the fucker work without going haywire on SC, I think the steampad would really shine here. it's got the accuracy and sensitivity of a mouse, and you can set it up with multiple profiles to switch on the fly for your various needs, effectively tripling the button count, but last time I tried it with the game it fucked everything up for several versions until I could find the problem, and I've been leery of trying again.

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>>151202289

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>>151203094

>>151203094
What gun is that is the S5 slot?

>>151203362
A ballistic cannon by Behring, I think. The C-788 Combine? No, it's the new one! How's it shoot?

>>151203362
>>151203693
Behring M7A. It's a laser. Basically an upgrade to the M series. Moderate rate of fire, good damage. Range is terrible though. Like 1700m.

>>151203094
Christ that looks stupid.

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Heh heh.

>>151204336
fucking kek

>>151204237
There was an uproar about this when the vangaurd was first unveiled. They didn't listen to us.

>>151204336
And thus the shitstorm begins.

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>>151204518
>They didn't listen to us.
>implying Paul would be capable of constructing a ship that's not trash

>>151204336
Called it.

It's a shame though NMS could have been decent if only sean didnt lead people on like he did. His statement about the game being divisive is more self fulfilling prophecy than anything.

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>>151204336
>game was never advertised as multiplayer
>Sean was just being cheeky, teasing at possible multiplayer FEATURES and stuff in the future updates with shit like "Maybe, yeah.. ;^))) "
>Players just dreaming up scenarios since 2014 wildly
>Get disappointed after they buy a product that's literally been advertised as having no Multiplayer


>Then there's the retards on /v/ like you

Fucking lmao.

>>151204898
can you please mommy post in this thread too?

I wonder if he's going to respond to any of this, because even his last response on this subject matter was "It's ALMOST zero".

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>>151204898

2.5.0 PTU TONIGHT

https://i.imgur.com/yL1iLwS.png

>>151205330
Sure, son.
>>151205526
I don't understand why you're linking me butthurt reddit posts about autists making shit up in their headcanon and then getting disappointed when reality hits them hard.

This is "Naruto should have ended up with Sakura" tier faggotry.

>>151204898
>never advertised as multiplayer

That doesn't matter. He said there was multiplayer. Even if it was unlikely to happen because of the scale of the universe (which clearly ended up not mattering at all) we'd be able to meet others.

Now it's officially proven - NMS has no multiplayer. He's a lying cunt with an overpriced game.

>>151205684
>Got into PTU once
>Never got invited again

Oh well, I don't really want to download 30 gigs twice.

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>>151205843
>Doesn't matter if they never advertised multiplayer functionality outside of naming shit for others to see

>We'll bitch about our own imaginary multiplayer functionality projections for this indie game

Huahah.. okay faggots. peace out

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A

>>151206131
no you fucking nigger. They clearly said, time and time again, that you can meet other players under very very rare circumstances. You don't say "meeting someone is highly unlikely to happen" when you mean that "meeting someone is impossible because there's no multiplayer".

Now fuck off.

>sony
>full $60 price tage
>>>indie game

>>151206259
>can you run into other players
>YES

>>151206131
BTFO you dev dick gobbler. Weasel your way out of that shit.

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>>151206259
>>151206131
GET FUCKING REKT

MY SIDES

>>151205526
that first comment holy kek, that reads like the silly ironic funposts of old /scg/ but it's real

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What if you can meet players on PC but not on Consoles? :^)

>>151206810
I would stop calling him a lying cunt, but I would still call him a shady shit.

>>151205684
MT

>>151206074
You need to be useful. Report as many bugs as you can. It's not for joking around and having fun. It's to help test the build.

>>151206131
BTFO

>>151205843
>you mad bro?

please post source of him saying "this is multiplayer!"

NMS>RSISC officially proven

>>151206926
read thread
:^)))

>>151206926
>>151206259
Eat shit.

>>151206926
that's some spicy as fuck denial mate. he lied about the ability to meet other players, time and again, full stop. whatever you choose to call this functionality is irrelevant, as it does not exist under any name.

>>151206914
>As many as you can

Yeah, the one time I was on I only reported/confirmed one.

>>151206926
Please don't respond to this poster any longer. This should be his last (You)

>>151206926
Refer to >>151206259

https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/762688708764135425

¯\_(シ)_/¯

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>>151206926

>>151207056
>>151207059
>>151207069
>>151207090
>>151207107

>not mad see!!!

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>>151207090
>>151207107
Fuck. Too late, mate. I'd already pressed send.

>>151207206
>greentexting yourself
Meta

wow you guys are lot easier to trol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A
TODD 2.0

>>151207371
>I was just pretending to be retarded xD

>>151207206
why would we be mad? we don't give a shit about NMS and never did. do you still dispute that Sean said there was multiplayer and that there is no such thing?

I didn't think it was possible to have space combat even more boring than in ED but damn it, NMS did it

>>151207562
There's some shit going on when your "Combat" trailer is one second cuts that doesn't actually show any combat.

>No Mans Sky is a huge shitfest
>Elite Dangerous is plagued with VISION and Dads instead of actual content
>Star Citizen has a shitty business model

this is how spess sims go kill

>>151208770
Oh good, that means Star Citizen will be the best game after beta when it adopts the eve model without the monthly fee

I'd just like to offer thanks to the PS4 console kids for beta testing the NMS release for us. Saved a good number of us $60.

I wonder how many steam refunds went in today.

>>151208770
>>Elite Dangerous is plagued with VISION and Dads instead of actual content
What do you mean by this

>>151208937
>Eve model without the monthly

You mean being able to use in game currency to keep subscription? How would it adopt it?

>>151209239
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwcJNsoY50E

>>151208770
>crowdfunding more than 100million
>shitty business model

U fukin wot, they made a killing towards development with their pledge packages. I don't know how this affects gameplay for you since you don't have to buy expensive ships to play our buggy alpha build

>>151209440
oh, you wait. Once the news of Sean lying goes everywhere, refunds will be rampant.

>>151209557
>oh, you wait. Once the news of Sean lying goes everywhere, refunds will be rampant.
Like the Star Citizen ones? :^)

>>151209257
Reminder anon, we have entire planets that we can drive around and all you can do is scan rocks or shoot bases.

>>151209349
You buy a game package and then have the optional choice to buy ISK (read: UEC).

Except in SC you don't need that ISK to keep playing for free.

>>151209738
I don't have any of the games.
What did you mean by VISION

i have to admit that the NMS flying is ALOT better than sc

>>151209841
Braben once said "We had a vision".
Anon was just calling the game poorly thought-out and shitty.

>>151209715
>Like Star Citizen

There was information about that they made 800-1million in the month of july.

>>151209841
I didn't post the VISION post, but the VISION is the term all of these developers use to try to explain what their goals are for their game. Roberts has a VISION also. It's become a meme because usually their VISION is never met or executed half assed.

>>151209841
Braben promising shit and never delivering because the dev team is retarded

>>151205684
Alas, I don't play enough to be on the 1 st round invites anymore.

>>151209715
>let me bring up a completely unrelated subject because I have no argument to support the original concept being discussed

k

>>151209841
It's a term used by Braben, head of E:D development, that described his creative prowess. It ruined the game in spectacular fashion, and the Dads came and sealed the deal.

>>151202445
Yeah I while I love my x52 it was not a wise purchase for a student. (Although I still think the x52/pro is probably the only sane chose of sticks with a ton of buttons, despite having horrible drivers.) In the end I had to buy a new office chair (more expensive then the stick its self) and mouthing hardware just so I did not destroy my wrist using it on the desk. On top of that it needed a dedicated usb 2.0 pci-e card in my rig just so the drivers don't shit all over windows trying to work over the usb 3.0 chips on the mother board.

>>151205684
So just a pirate base, correct? We can now spawn without getting insta-killed by the security camping the place? I guess that's good. Reliant is ok too. The argo is useless until we have an Idris. New clothing too.

Not too much in this update that's groundbreaking.

>>151210656
>Insta-killed by security

That can happen? I had criminal status for a long time at one point and never so much as once saw security. Actually, the pirates that normally hang out at the relays were gone also.

>>151210780
Sometimes when you're a criminal and spawn, they would sit around like normal but immediately shoot you once you got into your ship.

Will dads leave positive reviews on NMS because it's as shallow and soulless as E:D or will they leave negative reviews because it's not E:D?

>>151210656
>nascent faction warfare and territorial disputes
>nothing groundbreaking
don't forget a lot of the lawful missions send you into the Yela system to do rescues or whatever which happens to be where the pirate base is located. you'll be contending not just with NPC pirates now but also the local players, who will likely be friendly to pirate NPCs. hell, they might even have missions generated to go defend the pirates.

>>151211173
negative because they can't just look up where are the best money making zones are and have to go find them on their own

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>>151210656
>The argo is useless
At least it's fun to fly it around the Station for a bit. The troop transport version is like a clown car and can hold 8 people. Boost sounds like a mix between the Inception horn and a Reaper. Doesn't have nearly as much impact though. Reliant main engines sound...weird and rather unsettling.

PTU is out for 1st wave now by the way.

>>151211540
You make them sound like more than what they are.

Unless if I'm mistaken, "faction warfare" is a feature for organizations, not just bad people shooting at not-bad people. There's no territory to hold since they currently have no importance that makes them want to be kept. There's no cargo to steal. No HVTs to target. No teamwork incentives. I'd be hard pressed to call it territorial disputes when there's really no purpose to dispute territory. Once other careers come about and it's actually possible to steal a ship or its cargo while it's not landed, than we'll be talking since now bounty hunters can exist which in turn means we'd need a job board to use, which will increase player interaction and then we'd have escorts, and so on.

>>151212069
finally.

>>151212362
nascent being the operative word here. by territorial disputes I merely mean lawful players being sent on missions at the pirate base's doorstep and possibly vice versa. we haven't heard much about any changes to the missions thanks to NDA, but they've been known to make pretty significant changes to them in minor patches before, so I'd be surprised if no changes there accompanied the establishment of a pirate base as basically a faction headquarters.

when I say faction I don't mean some lore and dev established Thing, just a group of likeminded folks spawning in the same area and generally having the same goals, which pirates will be now.

>>151212069
>PTU 1st wave
I am genuinely supersized I just got in. Its not like I report bugs or am active on the forms.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13LzkKzDOKIdrhwL5E2n2Co6THa74A2izxn8lykDuPAk/edit#gid=1241570521

2.5 weapon stats

>Grim Hex station is going to be semi difficult to find

On one hand cool, on the other, fuck.

>>151213221
there is an easy way, but it's going to cost you a life.

I wonder how the player balance is going to sit with this new system given how easy it is to accidentally become a criminal, and how difficult it is to scrub your record.

>>151212967
Oh, I see now. Hopefully you're right anon

>>151213221
I remember seeing it located around the back side of the asteroid ring at Yela in a video. I could be wrong but while it is camouflaged a bit I think most people will spot it if they know were to go.

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so what's in 2.5?

>>151214019
Argo, Reliant, Pirate station around Yela, S5 gun, new landing system. Oh, and spess pirate clothes.

>>151214019
>>151214172
Actually, here you go.
http://pastebin.com/byFZEZYw

>>151213543
the more I think about this, the more I see the distribution of players becoming a problem long term. think about it: probably 1/3 or 1/4 of players will either already be criminals when this drops, or will intentionally douche it up to get an easy road to see the new content, and that might even increase over time if the place really is difficult to find by navigation. then you've got the people who get griefed into a criminal record by some shiteater bumping into them on purpose, or just putting themselves afoul of the law through newness and incompetence, not to mention bugs. Once you've gone criminal, it's very difficult to get into the Crusader authorities' good books again, and failing the Kareah job typically means you only get a worse rap sheet, as does successfully defending yourself from bounty hunters.

so the longer you play, the higher the likelihood that you'll be spawning on Grimhex, with a very small window of opportunity to get back into the Olisar spawns. Unless they make it easier to change your legal status, harder to obtain illegal status, or just do regular record wipes, I foresee Olisar becoming a ghost town or tutorial island, that only new players and perhaps an elite few lawfags and redditors call home, with the vast majority of the playerbase living in the trenches around Yela.

>>151215368
What you describe though is consistent with people in a dying empire who are experience a decrease in their standard of living.

Honestly, I would be fine with what you are describing.

Will Star Citizen have an offline static version of their PU?

>>151181642
The discord is full of ved rejects avoid at all costs.

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Post your speculation on what you think will be in Star Citizen Alpha 3.0

Personal: I think they will finally introduce something like mining or cargo hauling. Maybe if we're lucky they'd have Nyx finished as a location we can jump to. Also potentially Idris hangar or flight ready That's it.

>>151215776

Yeah they confirmed private servers and mod tools a long time ago. Probably won't be till a while after launch though.

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>>151215778
>normal, civil discussion on discord about both games
>you get butthurt because you saw an avatar
>instead of dealing wuth it like a normal person, you go "reeeeEEEEEEEE SOMEONE MIGHT JACK IT TO PORN I DON'T LIKE MOOOOM" like the triggered tumblertard you are

>>151216049
This. So essentially, private servers and mod tools are the last thing they will implement (if ever) so expect them very far in the future.

>>151215936
Org 2.0, Idris, multiple star systems, larger instances.