/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

>designate meeting hall around dining room
>make it a tavern/inn
>press space
>about 1 second passes
>Åblel Kekïmingiz, Axedwarf is visiting.
>Gasim Dukorimtil, Human Bard is visiting.
>Onaf Tolbuh, Human Swordsman is visiting.

Whoa, that was fast. I didn't even get any migrants yet.

So, why exactly is it taking so long for Therapist to update? Is it because of the new x64 meme? Cause .43.05 didn't take a long time to release at all.

Alright, this time I'll try to dig down to the near the magma asap, carve out my fort there while gathering a ton of plants & wood on the surface.

What could go wrong?

>>150829243
>Is it because of the new x64 meme?

pretty much, all the addresses would have moved, the way the data is accessed and edited potentially changed

Is there a way to do the prospector thing for the new version?

>>150830131
you'll have to go with exploration shafts instead of dirty cheats

I'm considering using DFhack to make soil at my fort, which is located very deep down, near the magma sea.

Yay/nay? Having farming and rest of fort seperated by ~130 z-levels doesn't seem very effective.

>>150835880

no water in your caverns? dropping water down is pretty easy

>>150836174
Actually, I have water pretty close to the underground fort. But what does that have to with anything?

>>150836235

>But what does that have to with anything?
watered stone can have farms built on it?

>>150836317
Woah, really? Awesome!

>>150836542

are you bullying me :(

It's been a while.
Is it normal that the 64bit version actually runs slower than usual? My computer isn't the greatest thing but at least I got 100 solid fps on embark while now I have something like 80. Shit's gonna go awry as soon as I get migrants.

>>150837298

have you hit the caverns yet? pathing is a big thing and it takes into account every accessible tile from what I understand, for every creature, at every step

>>150837368
No, I've just seen the fps drop at embark. I'm going to keep playing and see what happens once I hit caverns.

>>150836927
No, I just didn't know it. For real. I've always built my fort 5-10 levels below the surface and then kept farming in the natural soil up there.

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why is it inaccessible?

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>>150838539
no real obstacles that I can notice

>>150838685
Boulder. Smooth it.

>>150838685
>>150838539
that boulder there outside the entrance, you can build a floor on it then remove the floor and it will be gone, looks like a sideways 8

>>150838772
this works too but looks ugly imo

>>150838772
>>150838815
fuckin hell, didn't see that. Still learning the matrix

thanks

>>150838830

it always gets ya when you're learning, it's not a very intuitive functionality

What is more dwarfy?

Building into the face of a mountain?
Or building straight down like a bunker?

>>150839610
I'd say mountain. Dorfs are to mountains what elves are to a vegetable garbage dump

>>150837368
>it takes into account every accessible tile from what I understand, for every creature, at every step
It doesn't. It counts tiles in every accessible direction until it reach its pathing destination whenever it has to calculate a path for a creature. Having caverns open will mean that sometimes those calculations might flow into into the caverns. But unless a dwarf is pathing to a destination hundreds of tiles away or the calculation begins near the cavern, most of the cavern will usually not be included in the calculation because a path will be found to the destination long before any significant portion of possible cavern paths are drawn. Some creatures, notably thieving animals and building destroyers, will path into your fort from the caverns.
It becomes an issue for really big forts and forts that built near the caverns, but in the typical /dfg/ memefort (3-5 zlevels of rows of squares just below the surface) most paths will be drawn to destinations near enough that the caverns will never considered in the calculation.

>>150839610
ultimate dwarfy as far as I'm concerned is building on the side of a worldgen tunnel

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First blood at Metaldale. Does it count if a dwarf wasn't (initially) involved?
A cave troll got into the halls somehow and ran into a human bard who was leaving after a successful gig.
The bard fought back wielding his percussion instrument but got fucking wrecked before he managed to knock the troll out. Both started collapsing and vomiting all over the place; a passing fisherdwarf then tried to kill the troll with his bare hands but couldn't dent its thick skull.
The sole member of the militia was busy drinking and fetching a shinier mail shirt, but eventually showed up and finished the creature off.
I almost wish this place was getting more migrants.

>>150839934

huh good to know, thanks

>>150839610
Depends on if we're talking hill or deep dorfs.

The niche of the player fortress is largely bridging the two realms.

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>>150839610
Dwarfiest not to choose one or the other.

how hard is it to do an above ground fort? Assuming favorable conditions

>>150840671
Favorable conditions meaning access to a forest? Not too bad, you probably wanna make a fence around your fort tho.

>>150840671

much easier than it was before trees dropped a bajillion logs, much harder than before things could climb

>>150840861
Those two things happened in the same update.

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>>150840982

If I have really high velocity cart get on the highest friction track stop, is it possible that it can't slow down to a halt and try to go into the next tile? I have a floodgate behind that stop, will it smash through?

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>kangaroos are milkable

now that is a fucking impressive feat

>>150840671
not very hard, but can get annoying
an early werebeast attack is much harder to deal with, so you might want to make (even temporary) walls around your building area and take a couple extra dogs to keep watch
your overall building progress will be slower than if you were digging. not really a big deal if you know what you're doing in DF, but something to keep in mind if, say, you're choosing a dead civ where there's a chance one of your starting dwarves is going to become monarch and start demanding super-nice rooms right away

other than that, the main concern is probably flying creatures. not necessarily because they're dangerous (you HAVE to have marksdwarves anyway), but because things like buzzards or kea will constantly interrupt and annoy your dwarves. make sure you always have plenty of booze on hand as I think this helps keep citizens from freaking out, and make sure your marksdwarves have tons and TONS of ammo available, since they will waste loads of it shooting down irritating birds

oh and when you go about building your actual, final walls, remember to make them 2 z-levels thick and at least that high, ideally with an overhang too

>>150841628
>2 z-levels thick
2 tiles thick, I meant

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>>150841171
>>150841348
I don't get it. Are you dogposting to deflect criticism for the stupid thing you said? Is it working?

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>>150841929

>>150841530
*If I have a high velocity cart that passes over a highest friction stop

I don't know what the hell happened to my post back there.

>>150841929
yo'ur memes

>>150841530
I'm not sure what exactly you're asking, but the amount a cart will slow from a given track stop depends as much on its weight as the friction of the stop. A copper cart moving at the same speed as a birch cart will take a lot more work to stop than the birch one will. How fast "high velocity" is matters a lot. In any case, high friction stops don't usually completely halt the momentum of even light carts if they're moving very fast, so if you want to stop it you should consider a series of stops. Turns are very effective for leeching momentum as well.
Minecarts can't destroy buildings, but if they're moving faster than 1 tile per tick they can teleport through them (and walls too).

My outpost liaison is a goblin and so are a lot of the positions listed in the civ tab. What's this?

2016

>>150843489
goblins are small humanoids prone to evil

>>150843489
you like goblins for their terrifying features

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So one corner of my fortress's embark zone is sinister with a chance of fetid rain. Of course that's exactly the direction the merchants would be coming from.
They don't seem to be enjoying their visit too much.
Can merchants actually go crazy in recent versions? In the past it was possible if they got stuck or spent too much time breathing miasma and/or smoke, but seems like stress builds up much slower than unhappiness did.

>>150843803
Yeah, merchants will still go crazy if they're unable to leave. Merchants going crazy from miasma or smoke has never been a thing.

Any good informative lets plays I can watch? Id learn a lot better just watching someone decent play than reading guides.

I made my track spiral go like this. As you see I placed no piece of corner tracks on ramps to evade that checkpoint bug, and yet the cart still slows down after a few levels. I just wanna be able to push it once and leave it rolling all the way down. Does anyone here dabble in the mystical arts of minaecarts? How do you organize your downward routes?

>>150838539
I just noticed that merchant not leaving Depot may be also problem its acces. Trying to fix that problem now before they go mad.

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>>150846191
Forgot the picture dammit.

>>150845686
You'll learn more still just by playing, I think. your first fort might be a fuck-up, but everyone's first fort is a fuck-up, and your first fort would probably be a fuck-up even if you watched every LP in the world beforehand
besides, most of the people who make those (and guides) are married to stupid ideas, often obsolete ones from old versions of DF, and you can find better solutions by trying stuff out on your own

>>150845686

if you can't learn properly with guides this game isn't for you pamilya

>>150846434
I can't see any reason the carts would be stopping on the tracks, the momentum gained from a drop should carry it to the next ramp at the very least. Maybe try using a heavier cart?
Personally, I rarely let carts go on momentum alone, I prefer guided carts or powered/impulse tracks. In fact, if your carts keep stopping even after trying a heavier cart, you might consider impulse power every few z levels to give it a boost.

>>150848964
I think I've been designating tracks on the ramps wrong the entire time. I used to start designating on the track itself, and then continue in the direction I wanted it. Now I've read on that advanced guide that the piece of track on the ramp must touch a wall, so I redesignated some carving to be done. I'll let you know if the cart breaks the sound barrier.

>>150843489
goblins can sometimes integrate with dorfs

Few visitors are standing in big 3/4 water pond and are rarely if ever moving. Even if ramp or doors are near.

>>150849856
It was inevitable.

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>>150849856
Is this you?

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>>150850394
>tfw miasma feels tunnels

This may be common knowledge, but if you must attack a goblin dark fortress, do it at night. So many sleeping goblins will make the FPS much better.

Of course you will want to bring a murder macro for all the beheading you'll be doing.

>>150850394
>>150850498
Still not funny.

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>>150850738
But it is.

>>150850394
I bet you made that post and now trying to force meme.

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>>150851042
As if. It's a wide-spread internet phenomenom.

>>150850394
This is amazing, though perhaps it could use someone that either looks like a dfg player or like a dorf

>>150850738
>>150851042
found the source

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>>150851246

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>>150851395

this shit's so forced not even seaking could save it

>>150851042
Trying to force stupid memes is a widespread internet phenomenon, too.

>>150852137
Shit. Meant for >>150851189

alright lads what is the BEST animal-man to play as in adventure mode?

>>150852369
anything big or flying is good, but I had dangerous amounts of fun playing as a hippo man a while back. big and strong as fuck, amphibious, and can one-shot goblins by biting their heads off
only downside is they're physically incapable of jumping

>>150852369

Elephant man due to size I reckon

Am i better off making a temple for every single deity my dwarves worship, or should I just make one good temple to no one special?

>>150853030

big one

>>150853030
Start with the latter, and then add more as you see fit.

I AM a DWARF

And I'm DIGGING a HOLE

DIGGY diggy HOLE

DIGGING a HOLE

xD

Like some anon pointed out a couple of days ago. underground plants don't grow all seasons but above ground plants do. that's stupid, so I changed the raws so that underground plants grow all seasons. but I also doubled the maturation rate in an effort to balance plump helmets etc. It's kind of ridiculous that a couple of 4x4 plots of plump helmets can feed 200 dwarves.

>>150854004
Dude. With normal raws a 3x3 plot of plump helmets can feed 200 dwarves.

>>150854004
That IS stupid. Underground plants aren't going to be affected by the seasons on the surface, why are they limited like that?

>>150852369
Elephant man. Very VERY powerful, but its tusks are a truly incredible weapon.

>fun embark with lots of hematite and flux
>random fisherdwarf making weapons and armor because of negligence
>finally get some migrants, start setting up militia
>build stress from thoughts of steel being crafted (slowly) into inferior gear
>Rîsen Ûthirkûbuk, Fishery Worker withdraws from society...
It's that fisherdwarf. And he's carrying stuff into the metal workshop. Praise Armok!

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>>150843489

>>150854925
This picture always horrifies me. There isn't interspecies miscegnation in the game, but dorfs and humies can still find themselves swamped by hordes of goblins until dorflands are nothing but a sea of green.

>dat feeling when anyone born to visitors in your fortress automatically becomes a citizen who you must feed and provide for for his entire life

>>150854276
>>150854436
it depends on the skill of the growers but yes it's ridiculous.
a 3x3 plot can hold 9 plants
a well trained grower gets stacks of 5 plants per growing spot. this adds up to 45 plump helmets for a 3x3 plot.
plump helmets mature in 25 days. this results in around 13 harvests per year. which equals 485 plump helmets per year.
if all these were converted into drinks the amount would be multiplied by a factor 5.
so you would end up with 2425 drinks per year for a 3x3 farming plot.
this amount of drinks can sustain around 202 dwarves.

if you want to supply them with food you need around 2-3 3x3 plots

>>150854851
He made Akurenam, "Championpure", a steel spear. It is encircled with bands of oval granite cabochons and menaces with spikes of steel.
It's worth about 100k and almost tripled the wealth of the fortress.
His weaponsmithing also went from dabbling to legendary +something. I guess we'll have decent weapons after all.

>>150855329
That's why I stick with 4x4 plots.
A little bit of extra never hurt anyone.

>>150854436
"We come from a family of botanists and gardeners."
-Toady One

>>150855879
>went from dabbling to legendary +something
If he was dabbling then it went to legendary +1. Moods grant a flat +20k xp in the skill, which is exactly enough to go to leg+1, and dabbling skill isn't enough to push it beyond that.

>>150854436
Maybe they grow on the ceiling and not the floor and are actually roots?

That doesn't explain why surface plants aren't seasonal, though.

Not much about underground plants makes sense.

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bumpa

GPU broke today i think

Screen goes all black with spooky green dots covering it at boot

anyone ever experience anything like this before?

not entirely dorf related i know

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how they can lay ruin to entire civilisations and have entire eras named after them is beyond me

>>150861457
Yeah had something like that happen. Weird bands of dotty-color and blackness and streaks and shit. See if yours is still under warranty.

>>150855879
Well, that's an artifact to deserves to be called it
I wonder if Toady will change things in this update so artifacts can make more sense/be more epic

>>150857603
>Maybe they grow on the ceiling and not the floor and are actually roots?
No, you can grow them no matter how far up the ceiling is. Besides, there aren't any plants that have mushrooms for roots.

>>150856381
Did you read that eventually you'll have an interface dedicated to soil moisture and nutrients of the soil?
It'll probably be abstracted with dwarven opinions on how the soil looks
>Doduk soileater tastes the soil
>It tastes acidic and dry!
>better irrigate it and throw some pig blood on it!

At what level down can I comfortably stop worrying about things getting in/out?

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>>150867173
It doesn't have anything to do with depth.

Basically, having a few "airlocks" consisting of two doors or hatches, preferably with a few cage traps between them, will stop most stupid animals from getting into your fort. You can also have your militia squads train in the corridors that connect your fort to the surface and caverns, although this will make it harder to control the cave adaption of said squads(one reason to have dedicated subterranean squads for fighting cave fauna and FBs).

>>150867173
>>150868069
I assume he means how many sheer z-levels you need to stop things from climbing
in which case there's no 1 answer, but even 2-3 levels will suffice IF it's smoothed natural rock. any other material and you're only making it extremely difficult for someone to get out, not impossible
if you want to make something impossible to climb, have an overhang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cweWy1sP0M

>>150862830
hydras are pretty cool my dude. I got a male and female hydra that I'm currently trying to tame, andat somepoint I will have domesticated hydra babies ready to inhabit my pits.

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>>150849182
This is the problem.

Start one tile on the wall below where the ramp lifts you to, end in mid-air where the ramp drops you.

>>150861457
Sounds like you pushed "Start Game" to me, mate.

>>150859983
>last part

>>150871179
Yeah but how many of them can you facefuck at once?

>>150871354
>tfw you wonder how many heads hydra males have

>>150871354

0,1428

two words

elves

fault

>>150875420
Everything is the fault of the regressives, Communists, Muslims and Jews. What would be the Dwarf Fortress equivalent of those groups of subhuman enemy combatants?

>>150875674
Dwarves are commies
Goblins are Muslims
Humans are jews
Elves are bacteria found in the large intestine

>>150875914
>Elves are bacteria found in the large intestine
where do you think the E in E. Coli stands for?

>>150875914
So basically everyone except the Kobolds need to die in Dwarf Fortress?

>>150876080
>except the Kobolds
right, and they need to be institutionalized and re-educated

If I embark between 3-4 goblin civilizations, does it increase the chance for a siege or other combat?

>>150877241
Marginally.
Population, produced wealth, and exported wealth are what draws them like flies.

Just came back, are there updates for DFHack or anything yet? Will my tileset be broken?

>>150877573

So the only way to get more combat is to piss off other civs/tower, and then just export fuck tons of everything?

>>150878106
That's my understanding. You can also mess with the siege trigger tokens in the raws, but I'm not sure that effects the frequency of sieges or just whether or not they can occur.

>send miners to explore downward passage near map edge in caverns
>yay, more tetrahedrite and pretty microcline, you can come back now
>miners emerge from passage longing for drinks and the comfy atmosphere of the tavern
>spitting quadruped Forgotten Beast made of opal appears on map edge 10 squares away
Well, the crypts _did_ take some effort to build. About time we put them into use.

>>150879891
Eyyy!

>>150877898
Tilesets don't break. Graphics sets generally work unless there were raw changes, it's fixable, dfhack is still updating for the 64 bit version.

>>150879891
>miners
>beast made of rock
Let them die fighting.

>>150879891
Yer boned.

I have a demon of prase opal in my world. Every few months, they grab 10 goblins and defend their home against 6,000 humans, lose all the goblins, and kill 25-50 humans before the assault force retreats in the face of this unkillable monster.

I check legends every few adventurers and their killcount just keeps rising.

One of the 4 miners survived with minor injuries by deflecting the spittle with his pick, striking the beast once and fleeing. The other three basically got Kenshiro'd. A kitten that was following one of the miners exploded into a spectacular shower of blood and teeth.

Appropriately enough, the FB was named Lomoth Skullmines for this.

The militia then sculpted it into a mangled 21149 uristgram cherry opal menacing with spatter of 3 miners, a kitten and a cave troll.

>>150840625
>according to this map, they walked some 6-800 miles
>durin's bridge is 7 miles long

>>150882342
>21149 uristgram cherry opal
I guess one could probably mod this in somehow but it drives me nuts that you can't do anything with this by default
even if the corpse just reverted to a statue like how bronze colossi do it would be neat

would've loved to have had a sapphire statue of a giant lyrebird from that one FB

/dfg/, dank thread is visiting the top page.

>>150841738
Reasoning?

>>150855318
Accidents, good friend.

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So, my fort seemed to die, and I couldn't stand so much of my dwarves dying, so I abandoned the fort, but later the guilt was eating me alive, so I went to reclame it
Do you remember that old bug where all non-habitants would turn hostile against you?
welp, that bug is fixed, but this one is pretty cool too, I actually prefer it

>>150888793
dwarves in combat or sparring will occasionally warp through 1 tile-thick walls

>>150889223
>having an outpost liaision is a good thing
For me, outpost liaisions have always been a bad experience. I always spend hecka lotta time on my royal palace, only to completely forget the outpost liaision's quarters until the fucker actually arrives.

>>150889575
M8, my fort has oficially his own diplomat and outpost liason, and they function as normal dwarves

>>150882579
Nah, Middle-earth was set on the continent, these are metric leagues. They're only 38 decametres each.

Woah there friend

>>150855318
There will be, and I imagine it will lead to player-run eugenics programs to create the ultimate hybrid.

One of threetoe's stories details a man born of a dwarf father and human mother appearing mostly human (aside from rapid facial hair growth, ti seems) and joining the city guard only to realize that the guard is about to enact anti-dwarf pogroms.

The other involves a goblin somehow wooing an elven princess (much to the chagrin of her prime suitor/arranged husband to be) This resulted in an elf with the red eyes a goblin. The father kidnapped her and raised her as a goblin, before eventually returning her home when she was of-age.

>>150866384
It wouldn't surprise me if he ended up tying certain types of object to spheres. IE: Dwarves posessed by/who worship war gods more likely to make weapons.

Dwarf Fortress 101

1. Cages trap anything, even the strongest monsters in the game, without needing any weapons what so ever.

2. carpenter, woodcutter, miner, mason, mechanic, farmer, and blacksmith are the only things you should consider starting with, as carpenters can make wooden spike balls that sell for 300 each at the trading depot.

3. Rivers and waterfalls can kill dwarfs if you are too stupid to split them and or make a dam. You deserve the whole thing if you don't do this.

4. Quick build order, stockpile area, workshop area, barracks, farm, dining hall, rooms for sleeping, graveyard, training spear room.

5. About -10 depth has adamant ore. It's a bitch to process and make something, but, can allow a dwarf to kill most forgotten beast without a cage.

This games not fucking hard. I would suggest just cheating for fun. It adds to the game.

So I'm making a moat around my fort using a river. The idea is to make a pumpstack/waterfall in the tavern that will be there, then dig a big channel back out to the river that the water is sourced from. Will that work, or will the river not take the extra water off the map quickly and back up the moat/waterfall and flood me?

>>150895381
Miners and woodcutters are wholly unnecessary. A dedicated miner or woodcutter is a noob trap.

>>150897386
You don't need very many miners or woodcutters to make a fort that can house starting and every migrant after. You literally only need 1 and a fractal pattern.

>>150895381
>even the strongest monsters in the game
setting up a giant cave spider - webbing cage trap system is actually kind of a pain. I'd rather use a militia squad to take down a FB

Anyone know whether an iron scourge or a silver scourge is better?

>>150899467
It's an edge weapon, so iron is better

>>150898953
True, but its also a convenient way to get a truly devastating weapon skill early on and train stats, etc. Just seems better that if you're going to have a dedicated miner and a dedicated woodcutter, to draft it from the inevitable potashmakers and clerk migrants.

There is no need to feel vengeful. This is my thread too.

>>150895497
No, building moats out of existing rivers does not cause flooding.

Since fucking when was /vg/ so fast? 20 minutes without a post and we're on page 9.

>>150905762

more shit games with more shit generals

>>>/df/ when?

>>150904623
It doesn't sound like it's the moat that he's concerned about flooding, but rather the pump/waterfall arrangement. With poor design, those absolutely can cause flooding. We don't have enough information to make a determination about whether or not it will, though.

>>150906315
Oh, I see what he means now. I think as long as he doesn't take the water directly from the river tiles but rather from his channel he'll be fine. Or, alternatively, he could just make a mist generator and pretend it's a waterfall.

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>>150909030

>>150909635
>>150909030
how do i minas tirith /dfg/?

>>150911557

Exposed marble face

>>150911709
I suppose mudrock won't work

>>150911742

It would have to be pretty huge too I guess, deffo no gross mudrock

>>150911557
Strike the earth from the top down one z level at a time!

>Play adventure mode in fresh new world
>Start in a tree with elves telling me they brought me here to be executed
>Jump off tree to escape
>Didn't see that I just jumped off a mountain
>Break neck and die

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Will this be the end for Avuz Rothtun, the werechameleon hermit marksdwarf? Let's find out.

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>>150912816
Captain Avuz Rothtun, slayer of the forgotten snowball Olnge Mugubutux, werechameleon extrordinaire, has fallen in battle. Had he managed to survive 4 more months, Relicwebs would have gone 10 years without a single death.

>>150835880
>using DFhack to ruin the !!FUN!!
No.

>>150912816
>>150913890
His song shall ever echo in the great halls of the mountain home!

It's probably a good sign of me having been up too long that I read
"It has a broad shell and it-
Has a [huge] bloated body!
It's teal feathers are downy!
Beware its deadly blood!"
to the tune of the Addams Family.

>>150912407
"By the gods I was only joking! The absolute madman!"

I'm reading through the ascii stories section of the wiki and if these have any legitimacy like the regular stories than boy-oh boy is there some good shit planned.

>>150915721
>The dwarf pressed a secret button and a blade emerged from the end of the staff. The wizard called on his generals. The skeletal ghoul drew his saber and charged. Twan spun with expert skill and took out the phantom's knees, such was the power that the staff bestowed. Two more undead warlords entered the tent. Twan thrust the staff at Maxelman but a undead general threw himself in front of the blade, impaling himself and collapsed into dust.

>Twan caught the thrust between his palms. As the wizard snarled, Twan took the staff in one hand and with several quick motions, activated the secret switches along its length. The dwarf released the staff as saw blades swept out of the shaft and sliced off the wizard's hands. Twan jammed his helmet into the skull of the phantom general and smashed all the bones in its face.

>>150914869
Or you know, he could just irigate some plots around his fort. Doesnt matter if its 130z levels deep.
Underground crops give you everything you need anyway

>>150915312
"It's just a prank, bro!"

where are my jabberers

I need me some elephant sized emus

come and step on the traps you fucks

What Z level do you usually find magma in?
I've been digging for a while and all I got are gems gems and more gems.
and an assload of gold.

>>150922851
100+ if not any sooner

>>150922851
This reminds me
Is there any reason for my digging to just straight up not work?

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>>150920997
>elephant sized emus

>>150924628
what exactly are you doing?

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Wait, what, does it have infinitely smaller recursing images of itself?

What's the absolute best start I could be looking for?

>>150925202
Looks like it,

>>150925326
Define "best".
Do you mean most fun?
Do you mean smooth sailing all the way to becoming Mointainhome?
Do you mean crushing your foes, seeing them driven before you, and hearing the lamentations of their women?

>>150925483
Preferably all of the above

2/3 if I had to pick

>>150925392
Now that's good craftsdwarfship

>send militia to kill annoying giant mole outside
>giant mole is gibbed
>everyone drops their gear and scrambles to replace it with others' dropped items or stuff from inside
>half of them run back inside near naked
>macaques spawn to replace giant mole
>A rhesus macaque has stolen a =steel mail shirt=!
>A rhesus macaque has stolen a +steel high boot+!
>A rhesus macaque has stolen a *steel helm*!
I'm pretty sure some armies would shoot you for this, dorfs.

>>150926708
Why didn't you take your time and designated specific arms and armour for every dwarf? You are the one responsible for this mess, and some armies would court martial commanders for serious mistake like this.

>>150926939
I hate bureaucracy enough when I don't have to carry it out via Toady's beyond-quality UX.

>>150927093
So not only you admit it's your mistake but you also admit to it happening due to your own negligence. Guilty as charged then. Send him to the interface re-education camp.

>>150829265
High chance of running out of booze.

>>150927246
We don't actually have a penal system here.
The great leader grumbles about it sometimes but he enjoys the tavern's endless air guitar performances too much to really give a shit about anything.
Also, when I was serving in the glorious gommie army nobody cared whose things you were carrying long as you had them to present when asked xD

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this is pretty weird, fbs get stuck pathing in this little spot where the red W is

the 10x15 stone stockpile as a mistake

>>150929072

How are you enjoying the "carry the stone to the pile" conga?

>>150926939

>designated specific arms and armour for every dwarf

You mean for every army dwarf or for EVERY dwarf in the fort?

>>150928307
Do you have any building/construct there?

I after some time figured out that all beast I faced didn't stuck but were busing destroying traps or doors. That's what saved be from Firemade FB.

>>150929657

nope there's a clear path directly into my fortress, all the doors are open, only thing I can think besides something fucky going on is there's a pasture directly below the bridge so maybe it's trying to run to animals and then deciding to go up

>>150929371
But that's the same isn't it anon? Don't tell me some of your dwarves are not in the army?

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>>150931386

what the fuck, can these things hatch?

>>150931430

Yes, if you don't have your dwarfs eat the eggs.

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>>150931430

2croc

>>150926708
Jesus Christ, learn how to military

>>150924628
Digging straight up anywhere there could be liquids is a terrible idea, you don't get the usual warning. You'll just flood everything with lava or water.

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My jeweler just made this.
How he only used one gemstone for it is a mystery for me but the deity that possesed him probably had something to do with it

>>150933442
wew
nice
imagine the size of the zircon

value?

Apparently dwarven children can get possessed by strange moods as I've had two of them do so already...

>>150934196
Good thing. They can be useful and do some cool thing, and if just crap it's still legendary skilled dwarf. Even if it go berserk it will not do much damage and there one less kid to worry about.

>>150934601

craft skills are pretty crap strange moods imo, the only reason you want them is to churn out goods and if you can be bothered you have the resources to level up a whole fortress of the fuckers to legendary anyway

>>150934793
Still better than nothing.

>>150934929

ehhhhh yeah nah I don't reckon, they could be saved for a better mood in a skill which takes better resources, but to each his own

>>150934793
>viewing moods solely as a way of getting skilled craftsmen
I never understood this meme. I think interesting artifacts, especially those with images of historical events on them, are always nice. The skill increase is just a bonus.

>>150935047
I don't even play with moods on, maybe once we get some magic shit I will

>>150933817
Around 45k, still a lot considering only one gem is used

>>150935047

I like getting all kinds of artifacts and the strange moods in general. Makes the fortress feel alive sort of and some artifacts you can place in places to increase happy thoughts.

>>150932947
Trying to. I guess the uniform system is just another broken newbie trap in its current state?

I mean, I just did what seems like the sane thing and mass assigned everyone the same uniform. Now as soon as someone makes a better piece of armor, the militia commander drops his existing item to scramble for that, causing someone else to drop theirs and go fetch the militia commander's previous item, etc.

Not only are they dropping their stuff all over the place (take it to the fucking armory first!), but the entire squad is basically off duty for ages because of Pickup Equipment.

>>150936448

Try assigning them specific armor pieces. I've noticed less equipment mismatches that way.

>>150936448
I don't assign specific armor either, unless it's for the champion or commander. I don't really feel like replacing every piece once my smiths start crapping masterwork. There are other ways to avoid the sort of trouble you had, like forbidding and so on.

You should also analyze each situation, throwing your dwarves at anything usually isn't a good idea. Avoiding unnecessary damage and containing their movements is the basic.

>>150936448
>broken newbie trap

You literally get what effort you put in. Its exactly like saying its a newbie trap in adventure mode that you have to find and equip items laying on the ground to use.

You select a guy, you can either tell him a very vague guideline for items to try to find and he will try to look for those sorts of items, or you can assign specific items per character, which is what you always should do.

If this sounds like a horrendous amount of work, one frikkin squad of well trained dwarves will obliterate sieges and essentially anything that isn't spraying webs, poison gas or deadly dust everywhere.

Just assign specific equipment. Don't think of military derfs as fire-and-forget miner plebs, think of them as analogous to adventurer characters. You get heavy control over them and they're of great utility.

>>150915721
Yeah, that's some thing I love about the brothers
When they develop the game, they don't ask ''what should we add to the game to make it better?
They fucking do stories representing the game they want and say '' hey, maybe we should add secret compartiments for swords, or more complex battle stances based on the creatures phisiology'', etc

That's how you know that they know exactly what they are doing, not unlike other devs

Tell me /dfg/, what do you want the talking system to get in adventure mode?

I personally want flirting and emotion based communication (choosing what emotion to emit when saying certain stuff)

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>tfw adventurer tools got removed from dfhack indefinitly
>tfw no more bodyswapping with demons and ghosts
Who is responsible for this?

>>150938139
Pretty much, yeah. I mean you can already arouse NPCs, presumably including children (not sure) with erotic performance.

I'm curious as to whether you get any extra dialogue with your gf or wife in this game. I got my friendship rating up to 92 with a female follower, but as you have to be within 10 years of age (according to the wiki) its difficult to find someone compatible

>>150931386
damnit 1 of my crocs must be a fag

>>150938139
just more variations of every piece of dialogue in the game, I guess, and more of a loose mapping of certain tones of speech to certain personalities/states of mind

>>150938139
Definitely some more insight on emotions too yeah
I've always imagined that judge of intent would play a role similar to that of observer, like , in the future when/if you are able to have moderately complex conversation, have something that tells you the perceived mood of the person you are talking too. More level, then you get more info of his mood.
It's much more realistic than people shouting:
''Oh, I've improved my fighting, I'm ecstastic'' to everybody
Instead of that, when you, for example, compliment somebody, she could probably not say a thing, but a phrase would pop up, like in battle mode
She seems deeply flattered by your compliments, and listens interested!
But if you had little ability, it would just say
She has blushed
something along those lines, and I would also like more non-verbal talking, although that's relationed to what I just said anyway

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>>150938705
>She has blushed

>>150938523
Uuuh, I can see this working
Imagine you go to a brothel and start talking to the first girl you meet like if she was the queen of your civ
or viceversa
Hilarity ensues
>>150938139
I want puns and the ability to wreck somebody as much as if you were battling him using only words
The time when mental manipulation and personalities that uses them (sociopaths) arrive to dwarf fortress, it will be a great time

>>150937623
>Don't think of military derfs as fire-and-forget miner plebs, think of them as analogous to adventurer characters.

That's really fucking dumb if you have any worthwhile amount of dorfs wanting for equipment upgrades.

>>150938458
Breeding egg layers is stupidly hard. The male has to be next to the female for the entire period of incubation. Largely it aint gonna happen.

>>150940104
Hey, if you are so autistic that every soldier must use the most upgraded item, either:
1. Do it yourself
2. Let the dorfs handle it pell mell, dropping shit everywhere, clogging your orders, and then bitch about your own laziness and incompetence on /dfg/

>>150940248
are you sure this is the case?

what about caging them next to the egg box?

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>>150940248
is this a recent thing? in 42.x it was easy

>>150940104
Basically, a working fortress should never have more than twenty soldiers. Twenty soldiers aren't too hard to keep track of individually.

>>150940330

Wow, you're dumb.

It's an improperly implemented gameplay mechanic, needs a bit of refinement.

I bet you bitch about using Dwarf Therapist too.

>>150940369
That may work. I have no idea what the implications of caging are.

>>150940426
Who knows?

>>150940781
well I know non egg laying animals can breed through cages now so I'll give it a go and see what happens

>>150940624

>Wow, you're dumb.

I am truly sorry for hurting your feelings.

>It's an improperly implemented gameplay mechanic, needs a bit of refinement.

Nah, this is a case of you suffering from your dorfs doing exactly as they're told. Most (legitimate) complaints about fort behavior stems from dorfs not doing as they're told, but this is a case of them obeying directives immediately (ie ordering them to pick their own uniform within a set of criteria results in them picking the best items, and carrying it out immediately and as quickly as possible by dropping their shit).

If it bothers you, order them into where you want to stash your gear (that's the nice thing about military, you can order them with fairly precise detail), then give them the new uniform equipment order.

>I bet you bitch about using Dwarf Therapist too.

I absolutely 100% do not care how people get the job done, so long as they do not whine about how lazy and inept they are.

>>150940624
The mechanic is fine, you can use it as long as you know what you're doing.

Stop being a raging child and do it again.

How big pastures do I need to keep elephants? How much does one of the beast need? What about giant elephants?

>post rant about dorfs doing unexpected stupid things
>go jogging for a bit, get some beer
>mfw sperg war going on about whether said behavior is a feature
Don't build up too much stress, guys.

>>150941263
I don't have any firm answers, but pretty big
what I do know is that grazing was modified maybe a year ago, so if you're reading some guide that says "it's IMPOSSIBLE to keep elephants because they eat so much," that's no longer true. just put them in a decent sized pasture (maybe 16x16, more if you have a bunch) and keep an eye on how much grass they're using

>>150941263
last I recall elephants can't be grazed by default, they can't eat enough to survive, could have changed since then though

>>150940248
>>150940369
They don't. The eggs are either fertile or not as soon as the female claims a nestbox. The male has no role once the eggs are laid.

>>150941080
>I am truly sorry for hurting your feelings.

You only really hurt any credibility you might have had with your defending of poorly implemented gameplay mechanics. It'll be patched soon I'm sure, there's probably a report up on the bug tracker as is.

I won't bother reading the rest of your post because you've nothing valuable to say.

>>150941808
>It'll be patched soon I'm sure

Guess how I can tell you're new to Dwarf Fortress?

>>150940852
Creatures don't breed cages. A creature that's already pregnant when caged will still give birth, but can't get pregnant again until released, and a caged male can't impregnate females.

>>150941808
Its not even close to being a bug, just operator error.

>>150942000
>and a caged male can't impregnate females

I think you'll find you're incorrect in that m8

>>150941924

Playing longer than you

>>150938998
>The giant Toad blushes
>You really say so?
>He looks surprised and hoping
>Yes, I love you, -you say
>Do you want to marry me?
>The Giant Toad answers quickly
>Yes, yes I do!
>The Giant Toad looks ecstastic and other emotions you can't decipher

And that's how future communication and romance will be habdled, fanfic apart

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>>150942551

And yet you don't know how the military acts by default.

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>>150942696

I know how it should act and how Toady envisioned it to work.

>>150942696
I'm not sure even Toady does.

>>150942787
see this>>150942787

But anyway, stop sperging that much guys

First Time Elf diplomat whined about trees. I may negotiate amount of tree to cut but if I will not stop doing it.

>>150943552
Mod the elves to turn into logs when they die, and then stop cutting trees and start cutting elves instead.

>>150942787
With the exception of armor stands and weapon racks not being used to store equipment it's working exactly as intended and as designed. And it works well if you know how the system functions.

>>150943940

Nope.

>>150943910
Better mod Ents for Elves to use in sieges who would drop wood.

>>150931430
Cave crocs are the ultimate basic livestock. Massive egg clutches, lots of meat, lots of leather, trainable(?), make great guard animals due to their physical characteristics.

>>150944382

not war or hunting trainable but easily modified

Do multarmed creatures (like 4 arms) are better at fighting?

>>150944382
>cave crocs
>not jabberers

>>150944382
They don't give any leather at all, they give scales. They're not trainable by default, but that's easily modded. Also gizzard stones. Always nice to get those high value gizzard stones of rocks you would never cut yourself.

>>150944475
I'm not really sure. I played a firefly man adventurer for a while and it didn't seem to give me any new options
I suspect if you had a very large/strong creature with multiple arms it would be extremely good at wrestling because it could pin multiple limbs at once, but I'm not sure about standard fighting

>>150943552
Does ignoring the tree cap do -anything-? Because I have friends who have killed every elven visitor for years and never got attacked.

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>fort's only doctor picks a 1-on-1 fight with a giant cave spider
>survives

So the elves have sold me a giant badger sow. Is it useful as a guard, even without training? Will editing the raws allow me to train it?

>>150945243
It makes them more likely to declare war. Much more than just killing elves. If you want to fight elves your best bet is to offer them wooden objects in trade and let at least one merchant leave the map alive to tell the tale.

>>150944475
Yes, 3 shields + 1 weapon is very awesome. 3 weapons + 1 shield is less so, but the extra weapons still parry, and you could, say, stab someone with a spear to hold him still and do the other attacks simultaneously. If you have one limb grapple the target, they will first try to break the grapple as their next action generally, which buys you time and prevents a dodge.

>>150945427
It's as useful as any other animal at that size. They'll occasionally get enraged which will cause them to do more damage. You can add [TRAINABLE] to the raws for giant badgers (or regular badgers) to allow you to train them.

>>150945629
can multiattack now hoss

>>150945484
Well that's great news.

>>150945813
Having extra arms doesn't make multiattacks any better than for creatures with only two arms. Or only one arm, for that matter. The tag [ATTACK_FLAG_INDEPENDENT_MULTIATTACK] allows for multiattacks without a penalty, and only appears on hydras for their bite attack.

>>150946259
>>150945813
They can carry more weapons to multiattack with, is the point.

>>150946259
sure but it would allow you 4 punches or slashes or whatever instead of 2 right?

I,m just thiniking about usefulness of my Beetleman in military.

>>150942561
Can't wait to be able to marry Toady and have half-toad-half-rhynomen children

That communication system is pretty rad m8, but it would be horrendous to talk to various people at the same time
Well, right now it already is, so it doesn't really matter

How much do you value your dwarves anon?
Do you treat them good?

>>150947829
depends on what my goals for a given fortress are but usually it's either extreme disregard or extreme care

everyone please post your non-graphics pack fortresses
I need to find one that looks pleasant before starting to play again.

>>150947829
this exactly >>150948756
sometimes it's fun to run a chaotic fort where dwarves die all over the place, often so fast their ghosts haunt the fort while your masons and haulers work through a backlog of coffin/slab production and burial
having a fully ""functioning"" dwarven justice system complete with near-executions for petty non-crimes, watching dwarves walk away from their jobs to mourn a relative and so on can be amusing

but my default is autistically caring for everyone and being overly cautious with everything that looks like a threat, using burrows and walls liberally, only sending people into the caverns with a military escort, etc.

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so I decided to try getting into dwarf fortress one more time
my first fortress was going okay but I've been attacked by a werehorse. It murdered 5 of my dwarves with its bare hooves, crippled one other dwarf and killed a dog
then a month after that it turns out that two of my military dwarves were infected and have now became werehorses themselves

TL;DR any tips on how to deal with werehorses or werebeasts in general?

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This will be the second FB punked by a magma crab in this fort. Hopefully the fire will get rid of the deadly blood.

>>150952951
Military early, military often. Generally speaking, the best werebeast defenses are to have one or two fully armored militia before the first one shows up, and to tie up watch animals in a perimeter around where you'll be working for early detection. Always read combat reports after a werebeast fight to see if any of your beards caught a bite that broke the skin.
Also, read the wiki. Read the wiki. Read the wiki.
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Werebeast#Defending_your_fort_against_werebeasts

>>150952951
there's two main ways of going about this. they're a bit of a challenge for new players because they attack so early, but once you ride out the first couple years it's not so bad. that said,

>option 1 - kill it
this basically requires making one of your starting 7 into a military dwarf and bringing a couple pieces of equipment (weapon, helm, maybe breastplate - make some wooden shields after you start) with you on embark and drafting a couple of your first migrant wave into the militia squad right away (they'll need equipment too, obviously).
set some guard animals outside to watch for the werebeast (even 1 will do) so your militia can react before the werebeast gets to civilians
if you're embarking somewhere really dangerous this is basically all necessary stuff to do anyway

>option 2 - hide
make sure your fort only has one entrance, and get everybody inside as soon as you can. keep a big crowd of animals (war dogs, draft animals that came with your wagon, etc.) in a pasture on the surface, a good 10-20 squares away from your entrance, but close enough that a werebeast will definitely encounter them. when you do get a werebeast attack, it'll be spotted early and drawn to attack the animals, which will buy you quite a bit of time - use a civilian alert (check the wiki) and temporarily wall (or raising bridge) yourself in the fort. all your animals will die, but it's not a huge sacrifice.
often the werebeast transforms back to human/dwarf/whatever form before it even thinks to move on to your dwarves

>>150952951
Try to have horde of dogs to guard you, they are enough to make one werebeast busy until your dofs kill it.

>>150954237
>bringing a couple pieces of equipment
It's cheaper and much more effective to bring the materials to make the gear on site. A 42 point investment gets you enough to make full coverage armor and a weapon from bronze with materials left over. All you need is a fire safe stone and a log beyond that, which can easily be gotten on site or brought along for another 6 points.

How is this new update?

Does 64bit make it run better? Are there still no sieges?

biggest problem in this game is that caravans don't carry anything useful like in 2D, so there's no reason to create wealth which is the objective of the whole game

>>150955708

I just buy up ALL their cloth & leather and food (raw & prepared) with a couple of barrels of prepared food and then just have my leather and cloth dwarves go to town so that everyone can at least have decent clothes to wear.

>>150947829
Depends on how useless their skills are and how needy their personality

>>150955708
>Does 64bit make it run better?
In some instances where the lack of memory was the bottleneck. Probably not in the way you think it does though.

>Are there still no sieges?
There have been sieges again since 40.03 or so.

>>150956206
I'm doing the same, but I found a way to easily automate a cloth industry + dying so I don't worry about that as much as I used to.

>>150955708

Sieges do occur but if you're in a relatively calm area and you don't have any enemy neighbours then you might have to wait a while for a siege to occur.

>>150956470

I never thought of dye. Hmmm does dying clothes raise their value somewhat or is it just for roleplay reasons?

>>150955708
64 bit mainly just means it won't crash somewhere past 2 GB memory usage. You can start a ridiculous sized embark now but it'll slow down just as badly as ever and eventually the sim runs so slow you can't tell if it has crashed or not.

The caravans' usefulness depends a lot on what your fortress has problems with. Sieges are still unpredictable.

Also, not sure when damage started chaining to joints when body parts are hit or shaken, but it's broken as hell. Being hit in the arms causes shoulders to explode from the force and the GCS now instakills dwarves by shaking them when its traditional "bite the steel helm" strategy fails. Bolts seem to do more damage by tearing skin open in adjacent joints than actually penetrating into the vital organs, or something.

>>150957183
Big monsters have always killed people by shaking them.

>>150956470
>easily automate a cloth industry + dying
TEACH ME

>>150955708
>Does 64bit make it run better?
Marginally.

>Are there still no sieges?
There was never no sieges. You got memed, son.

>biggest problem in this game is that caravans don't carry anything useful like in 2D, so there's no reason to create wealth which is the objective of the whole game
Everything there is wrong. Caravans carry can anything their civ produces from any material their civ has access to. Whether or not any of those things will be useful to you is entirely dependent on what you can produce at your site and what your goal is.
The game doesn't have an objective. It doesn't have a victory condition or any defined goals. Once you know how to survive, the objective is entirely up to you. Creating arbitrarily large wealth is the easy.
Even if any of that were correct, it would be far from the biggest problem in the game.

>>150957341
>read sleeping in trees "may" prevent bogeyman attacks
>sleep in trees for 5 adventurers in a row, getting no bogeymen attacks
>make a sixth adventurer, sleep in tree
>get slaughtered by bogeymen

I guess it was just a coincidence.

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>tfw you got a 250yo pocket world where a dorf fort is the last remaining non-gob site

>>150957291
The 43.04 / 6/20 release added this:
>Allowed strong attacks/shakes to translate some force to joints and parent parts even if blocked by armor

It's a bit unbalanced right now. Basically attacks may completely fail to do damage but still explode bones, joints and arteries because of the way impact force works. Even sharp stuff like sword stabs and bolts sometimes do more damage through impact force translation than the actual hit, which doesn't make a lot of sense.
I think it also made shaking more lethal than ever.

http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=9861

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It was a possession, too.

>>150958494

True, but DF bolts have always been long rods of solid metal that do blunt as well as piercing trauma. I certainly have not experienced bolts being ANYTHING remotely like their old counterparts, which pretty much bored through to the bone with every hit.

>>150958526
you lucky bastard, my last possession was a pair of pig bone greaves

>try to get into dwarf fortress
>wiki guides are written by idiots who don't know how to write essays
>literally no reason mouse support can't be in this game
>suddenly everything clicks, my little guys are doing things


This is fun

>>150959204
arguably more useful than a candy stick. although nowhere near as valuable, I guess

If a dorf goes into a mood and requests, say, gems, does it actually matter what gems I have access to? Does he care which type it is?

>>150960063
generally not, but if he prefers a certain type (and your fort has had access to it at some point) he might insist on that.
I've never actually seen that happen with gems before but it happens with metal all the time.

>>150960183

Well I've got a dorf who's in a mood and is demanding trees, cloth, leather, gems and bars, all of which I have in spades. I can't figure out why he won't go get any of the items whatsoever.

>>150960496
my first guess would be the cloth. they want a specific type (yarn, silk, or plant), but if it's a possession mood, it won't say which. so check to see if you have all 3.
after that, check the moody dwarf's preferences. if he likes iron (for example), no other type of metal will do

http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Strange_mood#Demands

>>150960843

That's bad. I just used up a lot of cloth for my hospital after a necro/goblin siege (at the same time, fun). Welp, guess who's getting locked in. Thanks for the help.

>>150960941
>Welp, guess who's getting locked in
it's not hard to get 1 unit of cloth. and try the metal preference thing too, that might fix it.

if you have any sheep, alpacas, or llamas, get shearing and spinning
silk can easily be gathered from the caverns

>>150959365
>mouse support
enough with this meme

>>150959365
>mouse support
Honestly, mouse support tends to equal mouse dependance in this kind of games. It's pretty comfy to just use your keyboard and still be confident that you can access all commands.

How do you guys equip your military? Do you guys deck them out in steel, or is iron armor + steel weapon/shield good enough?

>>150963490
Tier 1 is copper picks/silver hammers, wood shields, bone armor, and maybe a metal helmet.
Tier 2 is leather/iron gear, depending.
Tier 3 is steel.

Just rushing to bang out some copper/silver weapons, wood shields, and bone armor is imo a good first step.

>>150963490
Depends on what I've got access to. Bronze/iron>steel/adamantine is my usual progression, but I'll make do with copper if I have to until I get my trade agreements feeding me materials.

I'd like to start an 100% underground fort, walling myself off from the world and only using underground farming and underground animals for food.
Any advice? I'd especially like to use purring maggots for milk and spider silk for clothes

>>150964814
You shouldn't have any particular problems.

>>150964814
I'd recommend use dfhack's reveal command to find a good embark location. Otherwise if you might waste a lot of time trying to find a nice bit of cave.

>>150963490
Obsidian swords and silver maces/hammers are also good.

>>150964370
>>150963992
What about equipment attachment? I use danger rooms since I'm an ultra-pleb, and my guys get attached pretty quick. How do I remove the attachment?

>>150965554
manually assign them a new piece of kit
bit of a pain but it works

>>150965554
Equipment attachment is a nonissue. I don't know how it became such a meme for new players to worry about it.
It doesn't prevent uniforms from functuoning properly. If a uniform excludes a piece of equipment they won't use it, whether they're attached to it or not. A dwarf could be attached to 500 different bronze battle axes, if their uniform specifies a steel battle axe then that's what they'll use.

>>150964814
Bring some raw crystal glass if you don't expect to find rock crystal, sand if you know your embark doesn't have any, and a shearable animal. Makes you mostly immune to failed moods, at least until you run out of crystal glass or sand. Shells are still an issue if you can't catch cave lobsters, but moods rarely need them.

>>150827773
Legos are cute.

>>150961851
It's really useful to be able to just paint designations with the mouse though, when appropriate. And support for that is already in the game, so I'm happy.

So I finally got a legendary migrant and it's a pikedwarf...
Why is this even a thing?

>Kuda Adurin, Elf Bard has been elected as mayor
Why? Because it is 255 :P

However Elf diplomat whined about trees and there could be war with them and this Elf bard will be in office during it.

>>150970003
does he have a kill list, or family, or anything?
just wondering if he's a legit historical figure or just generated

>>150942696
Is that Nigel?

>>150970003
>Why is this even a thing?
Pikes are things. Dwarves are things. Etc etc.

Seriously, try editing the raws for pikes to replace 62500 with 60000. It might work for a game in progress, I've never tried. Then acquire a pike from a human caravan, and Cilob's your uncle.

>>150966250
>>150965554
WTF is equipment attachment?

>>150971253
It's when a dwarf starts to prefer a specific piece of equipment over anything else, even superior equipment.
Like keeping a training axe when steel is available.

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>>150971253
when someone uses a piece of military gear long enough, you'll see an announcement like this (what kind of retard lets a dwarf get attached to a no-quality shield made out of extremely light wood LOL)

sparring seems to accelerate the process

>>150970260
No relations or kills so I assume he's no one of note.
He's also a legendary cheese maker though so maybe that's his primary profession

>>150971836
is your civ dead by any chance? sometimes you get wacky dwarves like that when DF is generating them out of thin air. pretty sure I've had a high master blowgunner before

>>150972038
As far as I know it's still alive and kicking.
Interestingly though, they did just elect him mayor

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>>150968653
indeed
>>150970268
You forgot 'based' before his name


So, doing some science on adventurers and the old unretiring bugs, and to this point, it all seems relatively fixed
I have unretired a dwarf and a human in my old fortress, in several reclamis, and they both are counted as full members, being able to check their thoughts, asign them jobs, and etc.
I didn't know if it was necessary, So I asked to a guy living there to join me before retiring the two times I did it, so I stumbled with pic related, something I had never seen until now

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>>150974779
>imblyign