/dfg/ - Dwarf Fortress General

>>150547056
Ghost are actually dangerous as fuck if you dont slab them
do eet

If no one bumps this we are going to die again.

>>150549909
>post number 2
/DFg/

>>150549909
It was inevitable.

>>150549909
How fragile we are... Begone fear!

is there a booru for dr pics?

>>150551638
>dr
df

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>>150551802
dor rortress

Are blind cave Ogres useless in battle?

i mean they are blind right

Well then. I've learned my lesson: never settle in a terrifying biome ever again. Not only does the rain of vile goo happen EVERY 5 seconds, I think it fucks up the dwarves in the long run as I had several squads of dudes knocked out unconscious around a SINGLE yak bull all the while I have a hospital set up for emergencies and not one motherfucker would at least drag the dudes there.

What the fuck?

>>150553910
Set evil rain to 0. Its boring as fuck, but more importantly, a land having evil rain usually cheats it out of having evil clouds.

>>150554446

Well, I am going to try again in case it's something I did because I am still kind of new at this game so yeah.

>>150553857
Sure anon, your civilians will mop the floor with them.

Some migrants have arrived.

>>150553857
Capture them and put them in a pit where you feed them your prisoners.

why can't I use kaolinite for walls, the red color really suits my vampire comedy-program's house, but I can't use it!
it's very important, please help

>>150555468
because its clay

>>150555464
FPS death is a thing of the past, my child.

>>150555464
Because Dwarf Fortress has quite a bit more in depth when it comes to certain things than Rimworld and therefore more replayability.

>>150555780
..... lol no it's not.
Show me the patch notes where they have significant frame rate enhancements.

Did they somehow multithread pathing?

>>150555826
I can agree with that. But you can never pierce the depth because to get a king, you need a FPS killing number of dwarves. You can also never breach the caverns. And the magma sea is just to top it all off.

>>150555998
>But you can never pierce the depth because to get a king
>you need to get a king to get the depth
>80 dwarves kill your fps
I know this is bait and all but you could stop pretending

>>150555468

Use bauxite, same color.

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>>150555998
But I've done all of those things in my current game, and the fort is still running smothly.

>>150556310
Okay, get 80 dwarves, and breach the caverns. Create a tavern, create a library.

enjoy your sub 25 FPS. which drops exponentially after a year.

>>150555998
> But you can never pierce the depth because to get a king, you need a FPS killing number of dwarves.

Horseshit buddy. My last fort I had a king and was at a steady 20 FPS and this was before 64 bit. Besides, a lot of the depth comes from the incredible world and history generation, something completely absent from Rimworld.

>You can also never breach the caverns.

You can though, just wall off what you don't use.


Have you even played in the past year?

>>150556553
>>150556324
He's just stirring shit or it's one of the rimworld shitposters
Just ignore him, you won't change his mind

>>150556553
Yes, I have played.

20 fps is terrible, and it only gets worse from there as the years go on.

Even with strict management like atom smashers and trading off everything excess.

>>150556630
No, I'm just trying to get the shitty mathematician to fix his shitty code.

Maybe if he started losing his neetbucks, he might.

>>150556321
thanks senpai

>>150556894

Keep in mind I saw bauxite as red when I tried using a tlieset, haven't seen it yet in ASCII.

>>150556676
>20 fps is terrible

That's subjective. It was quite playable for me and I played a few more years on it before it dropped anymore.

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>>150552357
Dor Rortress is a hell of a thing.

So, which rehaul of some aspect of df you expect the most?
I can't decide between language or psychology

>>150557094
Try starting a new game after it drops to 15 fps, feels like you can actually accomplish shit instead of waiting for for your dwarves to do anything.

>fastdwarf 1
mandatory to have this now, and even then it's shitty because it makes combat completely unfair.

I'd rather have toady start from scratch with optimization in mind instead of this.

Every new feature is another thing that taxes the FPS.

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>>150556817
>No, I'm just trying to get the shitty mathematician to fix his shitty code.
By shitposting on 4chan? Go to the forums if you want to make a suggestion to Toady, bud.

Pic is what you're actually trying to say.

>>150557595
>still replying

>>150557595
Sure it's mostly complaining, but maybe it will convince someone to stop funding him and his brothers shitty after school project.

>>150557665
This is the correct answer.

>>150557812
Yes, you sure convinced me. Up until now, Toady had fooled me that his game was fun to play, and I had actually spent several hours per day playing, and (mistakenely, of course) thought that I had a good time doing so. However, your truthful words have made me realise how boring this game actually is, and how mistaken I have been when I thought i was having fun with it. Today will be the day I stop playing DF.

I also totally agree that we should stop funding DF so that Toady can't fix its shortcomings.

>>150557812
I'll never understand what motivates someone to go shitposting to an autism room like this, i really won't

>>150558370
Except that's not true.

>>150558390
>>150558258
He does it because you respond. He wants to stir shit. If you stop, he will go away. If he's shitposting, report it.

now with 64 bit. When he had 64 bit a long time ago it ran like it was a tabletop game for me.

>>150558614
hmm, good idea

how many idlers vs population do you have /dfg/

Was something changed about parties? I've got dwarves kinda pissed that they haven't socialized in a long time, and now I realize in 4 years they haven't thrown a single party. I have the meeting hall designated. Did they add something else that's required? Nothing I can find on the wiki.

>>150561412
Dont you need a tavern for that?

>>150561620

Yes, you do. You need to assign it as a location.

>>150561243
2 out of 77, and the only good reason they are doing like that is because they are starving in the prision for reasons
>>150561412
>>150561620
Taverns do that now, there aren't parties

If one of my dwarves likes cobaltite and my floor is made of it, will she get good thoughts from it?

>>150561620
>>150562034

Fuck, I wanted to avoid having visitors, since I haven't played in a long time and just wanted to use this fort for relearning the basic shit. Now I'll have to worry about dickhead vampire visitors. Those Dwarven bastards better appreciate this.

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>>150562224
I'm not sure but I wanna say no, and she definitely won't like falling on it.

Will The rapist be updated anytime soon for .43? I can manage manual labor assignment for 7 dwarves, but 80 is a bit much

>>150555468
You can. z > stones > economic > kaolinite > enter
It's automatically filtered because it's used to make porcelain. Which is a much more intelligent use of it, btw.

>>150555698
It's stone in DF.

>>150562316
You don't have to have visitors. When you make your tavern pay attention to the settings. You'll figure it out.

>>150562938
You should ask in the rapist forum thread. Link is in the OP.

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>>150562224
This is the proof, that's the prision
It also holds a bleeding distracted dwarf ghost, normal tuesday

>>150563162

It's a clay as I can use it in the clay maker's place.

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So I've come back to Dwarf fortress, like the crack that it is, created a world and started adventure mode, to my joy, as an eagle man
>try to eat
>you lick the plump helmet
>you lick the tea leaf
Did he change how you ate food, because besides a few additions, which are great, I can't seem to eat food.

Please help, I'm starving /dfg/ teach me how to eat.

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>>150562938
Last figure I saw was a month or two at the very least until rapist works again for the most recent version


>Guy trying to get used to the game again
>A second Ettin attacks my Fort
>Have burrows set up for my marksdwarves and hammerdwarves
>Set them both to the military burrow alert, all with orders to defend those two burrows
>Unpause
>They immediately leave the squads and head for the civ burrow
>Frantically try to figure out what's wrong
>Keep pausing and unpausing for a few moments to see if they change what they're doing
>Realize nothing I'm doing is working
>Go to check on the Ettin
>It wandered into one of the random cage traps I had started setting up around my perimeter

Well... Good. That gives me some more time to figure this out.

>>150564326
It's a stone as it's defined in inorganic_mineral.txt, leaves boulders when it's mined, it can be smoothed and engraved, and can be worked by masons and stonecrafters to make stone objects and stone crafts. You can use numerous other stone types in kilns as well, for making plaster powder or glazes.

>>150564557
Eagles are carnivores, anon. Giant_ and _man variants inherit tags from the animal they're based on. You'll have to fight for your supper.

>>150564557
eagle-man are carnivore senpai
have you ever seen an eagle eat a salad?

>>150565034
>>150565085

OH

In retrospect that makes perfect sense

I starved an eagleman to death trying to force feed him veggies

"DID you hear about that eagle guy who walked into town the other day, he starved to death licking tea leaves"

I love this game.

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>>150567439

>>150562316
I made the tavern, and now some of these dicks just won't leave. I'm talking its been multiple sieges with some of these people sitting inside. Right now I've got a caravan here, and my broker refuses to stop socializing. I notice its purple with a ! rather than the green some of the others have. Am I to take from this that it takes a lot longer for this to end if its been a long time since they've done so?

>>150569150
Send in the military.

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>>150569110
I was wondering if/when you would square up vorpal with diagonals. It's gorgeous.

My only complaints are that the shading(?) causes a lot of black space contrast, and makes open space hard to differentiate from unsmoothed stone floors with varied ground tiles turned off. I can switch back to raving real quick if you want to see a comparison screenshot.

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>>150572398

What's better, dedicated high-skill dwarves with personal workshops and no other jobs, or a mass of dwarves with every labor enabled and a big pile of workshops?

What are your storage preferences, individual stockpiles linked to worhshops and managed with hauling routes, or an enormous multi-z-level everything-stockpile?

>>150574231
Depends on whether you want everything done fast all the time or you want everything that gets made to have a higher quality on average. A corp of highly skilled craftsdwarves can make a big difference to your fort's value, especially when you start working with high value materials. But until you have a lot of highly skilled craftsdwarves, hunger, thirst, sleep, and recreation can seriously bottleneck your production.

For stockpiles, that's kind of a personal preference as well. I personally hardly stockpile anything at all outside of food and metal ores, and when I do it's usually small stockpiles for a specific tasks or qsps for collecting a resource. I don't think my approach is typical, judging from what I see posted here.

>>150574231
I go with dedicated dwarves. Current fort has a pop limit of 60 (for FPS reasons) and got:

1 weaponsmith/metalcrafter
1 armorsmith/blacksmith
1 mason/architect
1 mechanic
1 carpenter/woodcrafter
1 stonecrafter/bonecrafter
3 strand extractors
6 furnace operators
1 woodburner/soaper
1 potash maker/lye maker
2 stone detailers
1 cook/farmer
1 brewer/farmer
1 gemcutter/gemsetter
1 weaver/clothesmaker
1 tanner/leatherworker
1 miller/papermaker
1 papermaker/bookbinder
4 farmer/hauler
10 marksdwarves

Rest is hauling. Got 7 mercenaries as well.

>>150575883

should have dedicated metalsmiths w/ furnace operator if you care about moods, same with a lot of those

>>150575637
for stockpiles I create an industrial level of my fort with individual wood stone gem and bar/block stockpiles that are all right next to their respective workshops and food stockpile next to dining hall. everything else like weapons, armor, finished goods go into a giant stockpile near the bedrooms.

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Yes, that fucker took a candy bar.

Any guesses?

>inb4 toy boat

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>>150572398
There it is without the shading.

>>150577306
bones are the main component?
I'll say short sword

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>>150577643
Wood was main component (on last page).

Wood crown. Still worth ~390k dorfbucks.

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I wish there was a way to trap ghosts in a room so when I throw elf merchants down in my pit, they'll all kill each other

I just started but this game is crazy/overwhelming.

How do things like this exist in the world? Just think about it. Crazy time to be alive.

So...

Gold walls compared to standard masterfully engraved stone walls for my noble quarters?

>>150577832

I theorize you could somewhat reliably do this by putting visitors where you want your ghosts to be, leaving them for a couple of years and then killing them

Why even bother with stone buildings wehen clay exists?

It takes years to build a giant stone keep/entrance/castle over the entrance to your underground home.

Less than 2 years out of clay. Even got some shacks and a tavern for new migrants so I never have to open my caves to the surface

>>150578595
Well, time to make a miasma ghost pit fit with vermin remains and chinese water torture in case they fall asleep

>>150579097

Less time and labor expensive to build a mason workshop in your quarry and then spit out 4 rock blocks/boulder which can be hauled quickly, this is how boulders are supposed to be used since the move speed/boulder reduction changes.

I think I've got my crash pinned down but to confirm- anyone else here crash in Fort mode during invasions often due to traps in 43.05?
Back to waiting for a functional version I guess.

My metalsmith's forge and craftsdwarf workshops are both cancelling their jobs one at a time with no message associated. I have tons and tons of materials for the jobs, anyone have an idea why? Nothing came up on google.

>>150579931
Did you bug report it?

>>150579931
>Back to waiting for a functional version I guess.
Yeah, that'll take 10-15 years, mate.

>>150580327
The bug report exists a few times over. No need for more dupes.
>>150580339
Your faith in the Toady One far exceeds my own pious one.

>warm native gold walls
that's a little scary.

>>150580325
The craftsdwarf one is only doing it with engraving slabs, to be clear. Wipes out the order within a couple seconds with no message, 4 dwarves with the labor enabled.

>>150580836
do you have stockpiles linked to the workshops?

Should I even bother with marksdwarves and all the hassle the are, or should I just make another 10 axedwarves

>>150581353
Ah shit, that's it. I didn't think it was the workshop link since my metal stockpile had the required bars and still wasn't working, but I forgot it wasn't one solid stockpile due to the limit in size, and the dorfs had piled all the bars in the other one. Thanks.

>>150581423
Marksdwarves are fantastic for defensive/tactical play or in forts built to their strengths. They may not lead charges as well but having a squad is well worth it.

>>150581597
if it's a non-magma forge you'll probably need a charcoal stockpile linked too

>>150581423
marksdwarves are fucking great. kind of situational though, they're at their best when you can ambush an enemy around a corner and concentrate fire all at once. if your strategy is to send all of your militia dwarves out in an open field to charge the opponent, marksdwarves are just a liability

How important are noble mandates? My baron wants windows, but he seems kinda happy.

>>150582513
Mandates have to be met I think, demands can be ignored if you don't feel like it, unmet mandates lead to beaten craftsdorfs and such.

>>150582513

I don't think there's any punishment for not filling a mandate but it will piss him off in the long term, easier just to do it.

>>150583142
I was right, just checked, mandates get punishments if unmet, demands get annoyed nobles who forget them after a few years if unmet.

>>150583715

My bad, got my terminology mixed up, I mod out mandates and demands because fuck all that noise.

>engraver hit by minecart
>leg explodes into gore
>taken to a hospital bed
>needs traction
>one tile away from a traction bench
>two doctors beside him, one is actually standing on the tile with his bed
>"Discuss Migratory Patterns!"

Research hospital was a mistake.

Is it possible to choose specifically where you start in adventure mode? I'd like to see my fortress as an adventurer but it's just sticking me in random dwarf fortresses around the map.

>>150584236

Yes when you choose your background you can sort of pick where you will end up, namely any town/hamlet/whatever that your civilization controls. Toggle between locally important and peasant or whatever.

>>150582513
If you don't have a prison/jail, you can ignore them without issue.

If you do have a prison/jail, better make sure they are fulfilled or else you will enjoy dwarves spending entire seasons locked up

>>150584236
Yes, on the character creation screen cycle the peasant/fortress guard option repeatedly until your fort comes up, it chooses a random hillock or fort to stick you in every time. You'll need to know the name of your fort, obviously.

>>150584327
>>150584515

Got it, thanks guys!

smooth ALL walls

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I want some.

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>>150587810
This demands an explanation.

>>150587376
>Fort has some dirt in it so you cant smooth/engrave

>>150588405
>thoughtitwasatrolldollfromthethumbnail/10
wtf man

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So I'm not sure what's up, but recently when I opened up the wiki This one of course http://dwarffortresswiki.org/
And it's doing a thing where usually it opens pages normally, and then other times appears like the page is an .txt file with hyperlinks mixed in. (See Pic related)
There doesn't seem to be any common thread as to when it does this, same page opens like this sometimes, and then perfectly fine.

Does anyone else get this? Is my computer fucking up on this particular website, or is it just like this now? Can't remember it having this issue a month or two ago.

>fort entrance is protected by 3tiles wide 15 z levels deep abyss, its floor already soaking with mud rain and blood
>decide that 80 dorfs are enough for my fort, no more migrants allowed
>they camp right before the abyss, eating vermin and freezing in the cold
>another migrant wave with a woodcutter
>they are now building literal favelas and their first workshops
>a miner arrives


I will make two separate forts. this will be fun

>First Werebeast ever is a Weregecko
>Beat its ass no casualties, no injuries with a ragtag military
>2 years later a Werecamel shows up
>Kills my woodcrafter and 6 legendary +5 Hammerlords before going down

Well, fuck.

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>>150590112
Only thing I see missing is the images and lefthand bar? The colors are from my userstyle on firefox.

>>150590112
Wait, it's also missing the little top bar, do you have noscript and shit on full-prevent?

>>150590696
>>150590975
Yeah, basically the sidebar is missing, and while the images are there, they aren't in their place (so if normally it would be off in the right, it just appears on the left like all of the text aswell.)

I pretty much ruled out any setting in Firefox (which I use), since again, it's seemingly random. Sometimes the page looks perfectly fine, sometimes it looks like pic related. Infact, I even managed to switch between the two looks by simply pressing F5 (sometimes it fixes it, sometimes it breaks it).

Now based on you sounding like this is new to you, I'd write it off as my connection being shit or something like that, but again, every other site works fine, it's just the DF wiki that does this.

Just started playing this after several years of my D&D group enjoying it and telling stories and jokes and such. It's pretty overwhelming, but once you get things going, it's really fun to watch the dwarves go about their jobs so dutifully.

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>>150557812
You are a monster and there should be a law wherein such actions resulted in execution for crimes against art.

You FUCK.

My FPS has gotten down to 9, and Fun hasn't even shown up yet. Feels bad.

>>150594264
Limit your pop to 60 or 80. Plenty to get lots of industries going and a squad or two.

What do you guys do for squads? I currently have a squad of 10 hammerlords and 10 marksdwarves, but having just lost a bunch to a werebeast I'm wondering if I would've been better off with a different general composition.

I've discovered the ultimate entrance for any fort:
Riding a minecart over a gap
No danger of enemies jumping in, one-way travel airlock, stylish as hell, doubles as a way to haul stuff in from outside.

Bonus points for using a pressure plate to open a door just long enough to get through, keeping your fort safe from fliers.
Extra bonus points for jumping through a water/lavafall.

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>>150595729
>jumping through lavafall

It's been a long time since I played - are raised bridges still indestructible/impassable?

>>150595785
I call it the holocoaster, dwarves go in, minecarts come out.

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>>150595923

>>150595729
>Extra bonus points for jumping through a water/lavafall.
So, Batman fort?

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I can't wait for proper arena mechanics. Both the adventure and fortress mode aspects.

>Kobold thief triumphs against all odds, earning its freedom/a fort citizenship offer/a better weapon for its next fight (depending on what the player has set)

>Post-currency update, a single dwarf bets against the entire fortress, bankrupting everyone and starting an economic crisis/tantrum spiral.

>>150595726
WARMINERS

>>150595726
My general setup:

10 marksdwarves
3 axedwarves
3 hammerdwarves
3 speardwarves
1 lasher

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I hope there's a general increase in fortress threats. I know you can choose your own difficulty and all but still. One shouldn't have to embark on a terrifying glacier that is also home to an entire goblin civ to encounter challenges beyond the occasional vampire.

Especially since there are so many ways to get food/keep up morale these days.

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>>150595729
>tilesetanon stamp of approval

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I want to make Immunity Cat as a creature in DF.


How would you do it?

>>150593707
>when you decide to make one of the random dorfs you favourite and give him a better room and look what he does all day
I really like you, Iluk.

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>>150596634
Once I start getting some better metals than copper (Yes, year 5 with just copper and silver, you read that right. mi 2 pussy 4 cavern) or the caravans bring me more useful gear, I'll try that out.
Just lost 2 marksdwarves to the largest gobbo siege I've ever had to deal with. At least I'm not dying to the very first like before.

>>150597630
>tfw at 160th z level and still no proper metal

now they have candy swords

>>150598216
Oh god, I hope that doesn't happen to me.

This is my first successful fort, so I'm just terrified to go into the cavern and invite some fucked megabeast in to destroy me like in the past. I'm trying to get my entire outside ringed in traps first, which is taking quite a long time.

>>150598806

Go ahead and breach the caverns. Make a one tile hallway going in and just wall it off if you get a Forbidden Beast you can't handle. Normally it's not any more dangerous than sending woodcutters outside.

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>>150599094
I'll do that if I survive this Bronze Colossus. So far its not looking good.

>tfw you realise that your dorfs will happily butcher and eat great apes
we africa now

>>150599287
Well that was a fucking stupid way to lose a fort.
What causes random holes in the ground? The colossus got into my base through a tile that previously had been closed off. Or can they just smash through the ground as they please?

>>150599730
if you cut a tree with no dirt under it will leave an open hole

>>150599896
Its listed in the bug tracker, so I'm alt+f4ing and continuing on from the last autosave. Had it approached my fort from the entrance it would've been manageable anyway.

>>150600070
Don't feel bad when savescumming. I did it a lot in the beginning in order to actually learn stuff before getting rekt by invasions or monsters or clowns.

>>150597195
Replace the cat in the raws to this
[CREATURE: Immunity cat]
[DESCRIPTION: Immunity cat protects it's owner from the supernatural. The owner of immunity cat will no longer live in fear, because immunity cat will always be with them.]
[NAME: Immunity cat: Immunity cats: Immunity felines]
[CASTE_NAME: Immunity cat: Immunity cats: Immunity felines]
[PREFSTRING: Protectiveness]
Remove [ADOPTS_OWNER]
There, all cats are now immunity cats, and I fixed the catsplosion.

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>orthoclase!
>orthoclase!
>orthoclase!
>tetrahedrite!
>tetrahedrite!
>orthoclase!

>>150601716
>complaining about billon

>>150595870
Ya

>>150600209
I play a lot of roguelikes, and generally that's gotten me to be very against savescumming, but when I lose a full day's gametime because of a known bug, I bend my own rule a bit.

Now if only these kids would hurry up and grow up so I could use them for the slave labor I so desperately need. So much hauling to be done.

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Nice. The interesting motive compensates for the shitty materials.

Is there any use at all to wooden bolts? I've got rhinos, giraffes, etc in my embark and it seems like my hunter (master crossbowman) just mutilates the animals a bit and never actually kills them.

>>150603128
training

>>150603128
Wooden bolts are the only thing I use for training.

Also what the fuck is with this captcha? It made me go through like 5 sets of images instead of the usual 'pick the storefronts' or whatever. And told me I mistyped it. Thanks, neo-moot.

>>150577832
>>150578595
I can confirm this. I have a prision where I send dwarves I don't like or think that aren't gonna benefit the fortress to starve.
Eventually, they die, and as most dwarves frequent the place where they have died, they sort of pile there, battering the other dwarves I sent there.
It's a really fucking cool project that takes some time, but it pays off
I don't know, a ghost-filled deep pit prision is always cool

>>150584078
that's what you get for investing dorfbux on healthcare and research instead of military

>underground crops are grown seasonally
>surface crops can be grown year-round

toady pls

>>150596426
I Imagine that the starting scenarios will bring a lot of roles and different places to the game
Designating an arena in fort mode where dwarves bet on the fighters doesn't sound like something unachievable at all

>>150603494
Balance. If underground crops could be grown year round they'd be OP.
See: plump helmets

>>150596705
this made me think about you
>http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=159800.new#new

>>150603859

that would be better managed by adjusting maturation rates or yields

>>150603915
Ok, when I get home I'll try it out by changing all underground crops to be grown year round but multiplying the maturation time by the amount of seasons a crop doesn't grow. I.e. Pig tails dont grow in 2 seasons. Double the maturation time.

What happens when I pump magma into a room with chalk walls?

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>>150604113
You get a room chalk full of magma.

>>150604457
According to the wiki, chalk isn't magma-safe. Does that influence anything?

>>150604492
Constructions and natural walls are entirely indestructible (except for deconstruction/mining, of course).

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the magma garbage dump might need a redesign

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this seems like a fine idea

>>150605050
is pitchblende ever going to actually do anything

fresh report from Toady
>Working to wrap up the worldgen artifact interactions we'd like to have for this time. Artifacts can now be given between entities during peace or when peace is made. Heroes can also make journeys (potentially with buddies) to recover heirlooms (still need entity/religious recovery).

I also included artifact claims in war/diplomacy calculations. For instance, in events spanning 124 years, the periclase bracelet Lusterlabored was made by a dwarf in a goblin tower and given to the dwarven master (the original demon was killed by an elephant while invading the elves). Stored in the tower for several years, it was eventually stolen by the kobold Tobogochrursnus. Tobogochrursnus brought the bracelet along on various thefts, only to be cornered by a human hamlet lord, Emim Squashchewed. Emim kept Lusterlabored as a family heirloom for forty years, but this eventually brought the attention of the same dwarven master back in the goblin tower. A war was launched, and Emim went to defend the main human city of Largeplot, where he was killed by the elf Ber (who had grown up in the tower). Ber took the bracelet and assumed the position of administrator over the conquered town. She had a more or less peaceful rule for decades, until the rampage of a werehyena found Ber devoured and Lusterlabored with a new owner.

Seems like we are gonna have some more content in the next update

>>150605195

no

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Newdorf here, first time getting this message. What are the repercussions, if any, of saying yes to this?

>>150605576

Repercussions are shit mandates unless you vet your promotee

>>150605576
your fort will become an official land of the dwarven realm

I havent played DF for like 8 years or something and I really feel like starting it again. Its just a huge step to learn the game again, even if I have some experience.

>That one time when I made a wall out of blocks of ice. Summer came and melted the ice, but the wall remained. End result: wall of solid water
>That one time when I made a system that captured elves to glass cages and hauled them to the dining room, where they eventually stripped themselves in madness

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>>150608067
This should help you a little.

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Made some skellingtons, but their legs look a bit weird. They need to be tweaked a bit.

>>150608875

the skeletons look bigger than the bodies they're supposed to fit inside

>>150608875
look a little too bulky for skellies

What all do jungles need? I'm trying to make my world as full of jungles as possible.

Rainfall - high, presumably
Temperature - high, presumably
Drainage - ???

>>150609527
high, presumably

>>150609527
Snakes, man.

>>150609527
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Biome#Generating_a_Biome

>>150609146
True to life, skeletons are kept under pressure in our bodies and expand to their full size once they escape.

What's the easiest way to prepare my fortress and body for Goblin Sieges?

Anything I can do to attract scholars? I've got a tavern up and running with mobs of bards all the time, but even with loads of chairs, tables, bookshelves, and blank books, my library gets no visitors. I even promoted two idiots to scholar and now they just sit around all day talking about bandages. How do I get visiting scholars? I want some dwarves as autistic as I am

>>150610495

a wall tile

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Changed the skellies a bit.

Alright /dfg/, what's the most valuable item you've seen?

>>150610570
>skeleton
>ears

>>150610591
oh gosh well I went on a tour of the Tower of London and saw the largest cut diamond in the world in the Royal Scepter so I figure that's probably the most valuable item I've ever seen.

>>150610660
Havent you touched your ears? They are not soft like muscle and skin. That means they have to be the ear bones.

What the fuck, a naked goblin surgeon "guest" just ran in to my fort and stole some clothes

>>150610771

then you forgot the noses d00d

>>150610821
Geniuses are always eccentric.

>>150610591

Don't remember off the top of my head but I've forced strange moods to use adamantine so it'd be one of those.

>>150610821
Should have dissolved her in magma for stealing.

I keep accepting all the citizenship petitions and like half of my population is now useless people who don't work. Fucking immigrants, I should build a wall

>>150611686

they even tell you that they're just there to party

>>150605230
>found Ber devoured and Lusterlabored with a new owner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2wEDBY7jOU
AMPED

How can I make a place where only certain dwarves can acces.
Im trying to build a cozy cabin outside for some guys, but the other dwarves keep entering just to sleep in the ground
Sending rude dwarves to starve doesn't work,pls halp

>>150616227
Burrows should help you with this

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literally zero children in the fort

>>150615301
Not to deamp you or anything, but creatures, including site leaders, can already get devoured by werebeasts.

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>>150616631
he's drawing parallels to pic related.

>>150616435
but how? Do a asign the whole fort to the whole embark but the place I don't want them to go?

>>150617114
I don't see how the goblinized elf ruler of a human town being eaten by a werehyena has any parallels to gollum or anything else in LotR.

>>150610660
>>150610880
I did the ears show up in order to make the races more distinguishable. I can remove them if you want me to.

Is it common fot fugitives to synch with werebeast attacks? Three times it happend now on this run.

I'm early in my fort life (<50 dudes) and I'm thinking of maybe an above ground mini-tower (accessible only by underground) with one or two good marksmen.

Just won my first open field battle against the goblin filth

a knife ear caravan was caught in the carnage and accidentally got slaughtered and plundred


If a dorf loses the ability to walk is it possible to restore it or should i just retire him?
poor sod lost his foot to a goblin

>>150618692
I'm not either of them.
I don't think it's a problem whether they have ears or not. On the one hand, it is an awfully convenient way to be able to distinguish races' skeletons. On the other hand, there aren't significant differences between creatures of similar size once they become skeletons, aside from their names. It's a pretty stylized tileset, so I'd say just go with whatever solution you feel fits the style best.

Incidentally, cartilage doesn't rot in DF outside of refuse piles without modding. So there's that.

>>150619354
depends how badly you need military dwarves, I guess. once he gets a crutch he should be able to walk (slowly at first), but he'll only have 1 hand free
I'd probably retire him

>>150619121
>fugitives
What?

>>150619354
Depends on the nature of the injury. Some will heal completely, some will have permanent function loss. z > health to see the full extent of the injury after he's been diagnosed.

>>150619528

Right one handed crutch wielding axe dorf arent very intimidating nor fast

>>150619669
Heavy metal crutches are a fucking terror in combat. Give that dude a platinum crutch, watch him pop heads all day long.

>>150619669

an experience warrior can still put up one hell of a fight

just so i get this right, temperature in DF uses a fahrenheit scale offset from 10000° celsius, and absolute zero is 9508°?

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I removed the ears from the skellies. Now goblins and dorf skellies are exactly identical, and humans and elves skellies are almost identical(the elves have slightly lower shoulders). They still retain some of their personality, though. I might go with this.

>>150620637
The skulls look great, not so sure about the rest of the body yet.

>>150620637

the ears were fine, i was just messing with you

>>150621105
Messing or not, it got on my head, so the skellies will now be earless. The earless variant looks a bit more consistent.

>>150620842
I'm working on better bodies right now. It's a bit tricky, since they need to have clear segments.

>>150621550
>they need to have clear segments.
Do they? Maybe it's enough if they are thin.

>>150620637
better but the arms still look kinda muscular/fat

I was thinking of making a fishing platform in one of the caverns

Does FBs swim? im terrified of them after the last one rampaged thought my last fort

>>150622819

i don't know about swimming, but they can effortlessly wade through a tile of 7/7 water

>>150622819
>Does FBs swim?
Yup, some do.

>>150622819
they don't drown anyway, I don't know if all of them will actively path through the water, but certainly some will, and if they can see a target on the other side of the water I suspect all of them would. and a fair few cavern creatures can swim too (trolls for a start)

cave crocodiles love eating fisherdwarves

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I' still not pleased with them, but I'll call it a day. I have a pretty interesting fort to go back to.

>>150623825
Looks better already. Though I'm not sure why you chose to give the bones muscles.

>>150578271
>Noble quarters
>Not just throwing nobles into the deepest, darkest, most goblin infested pit you can find

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>>150624361

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>>150624361

>>150624595
>>150624858
I want /fit/ to go away

>>150604457
I know your dad never told you this, and your guidance counselor said you wouldn't ever amount to anything, but goddammit anon, I'm fucking proud of you.

>>150610386
I'm proud of you as well, not as much as the chalkanon above though.

>>150620637
Add like, fangs, to the bottom of the goblin skulls.

>>150620458
What's the celsius nonsense? It's Urists son, water freezes at 10k Urists, ordinary absolute zero is 9.5k Urists, and absolutest zero is 0 Urists. None Urists is 60k+1 btw.

>>150623825
Goblins, fangs, do eet.

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>>150625010
Honestly though, I made the skellies thinner.

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>>150625173
>temperature measured in urists
>weight also measured in urists
dem urists man, dem fukken urists

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>>150625221
After posting >>150624361 I also played around a bit.

I think elves having a thinner skull helps further distinguishing them

>>150625221
>>150625581

the thin, short limbs and big skulls make them look like children

>>150625687
>>150625581
Sorry, but making the skull thinner than the head is a total no-no for me.

The skull should have the same basic shape as the head, period. Also, your edits made them look a bit too much like some CLA tiles. Those are not the aesthetics I'm going for.

do sea creatures not show up on the creature list? I'm embarked on a savage ocean and stingrays and fish show up periodically, but they don't show up on the list and I can't view them. Does that mean I would have to use a small animal trap to catch them?

>>150626196
CLA is the shit.

>>150625581
They do kinda look like creepy little kids, or aliens, or alien kids!

>>150626519
Vermin(which is an umbrella term for all small animals in the game) can't be viewed and won't show up on the creature list. This includes most marine fauna.

Interestlingly, despite the fact that you can't view vermin, they still have descriptions. Those descriptions could earlier only be read in the raws(to my knowledge), but now they can also be read through the image creating screen.

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>>150626196
>Also, your edits made them look a bit too much like some CLA tiles.

>mfw that's because I'm CLA

Man, I didn't think the style would be that distinguishable.

one of my dwarves is flashing x is shaken to the core!
is this new? is it basically very frightened?

>>150627693
wut

quick, which stones have the same colour as microcline

>>150628729
The majority of all microcline is pink IRL(like most feldspars). Only amazonite(which DF microcline is based on) is blueish green.

In DF, the only rock or mineral with the same colour as microcline is adamantine, as far as I know.

>>150622928
>>150623432
>>150623432


Jesus Christ, looks like i am not starting any enterprises in the caverns just forever bypassing theme

>>150629220
fugg
and cobaltite? which ones?

>>150630273
Cobaltite is blue, not cyan.

When will labor unions be implemented?

>>150630604
Maybe 5 years, maybe 20.
A recent (the latest?) FotF talks about it.

>>150630604

guilds would be vastly more appropriate

>>150630505
yeah, I mean which ones look like it.
I need a good contrast between blue and red
already got slate, but I need blue

Is anyone seeing way fewer elves in .42? Lots of worlds I've generated and no elves so far

>>150623432
>they don't drown anyway
They do drown. They're all "amphibious", though, so they won't start drowning unless they're in 7/7 water (or magma) with at least 1/7 water (or magma) on the tile above them. Fire FBs won't drown in magma. I'm not sure if FBs can have the shape of an aquatic animal, but they probably can't since aquatic animals air drown when they leave water.

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>>150631940
You mean 43.05?

>>150627693
Still wutting, comfyanon=cla, or thisanon=cla responding to the post about comfyanon resembling cla?

>>150632614
>thisanon=cla

>>150631940
Im playing 43.03 for DFhack, and during world gen a good amount of elves spawn, but during history they get killed in wars and their forest retreats get taken over by gobbos and humans. Have you tried increasing the amount of civilizations in paramaters for worldgen?

>>150629291
Walls are as effective in caverns as they are on the surface. More so even, caverns have a roof already.

>>150633449
What if the FB can fly

Then you're fucked.

>>150632791
(hi cla)

>>150632456
>>150632889

Whoops, meant .43; I'm on .43.03 as well for DFHack. I'll try loads of civs.

>>150633529
Rocs and some titans fly too, that doesn't keep you from building walls on the surface, does it?
Besides, you ignored the "caverns already have a roof" part. Build your walls to the top of the cavern. It's easier to secure a cavern than the surface precisely for that reason.

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Four wafers lost to this garbage. Next time I know to make the craftworkshops in a drowning chamber to prevent useless people from touching my precious adamantine.

>>150580339
You mean never.

FPS death will make sure this game ends like george RR martins legacy.

In the trash.

>>150634337
Three wafers at most, there are only 3 adamantine decorations on it. A lot of times a single mat will be used for multiple decorations, so it could be fewer, but it definitely isn't more.

Next time a moody dwarf claims a craftsdwarf shop just forbid all your adamantine until they begin construction.

Are silver bolts more efficient against were beast than normal bolts?

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>>150634747

>>150635005
Nopers, they're vulnerable to random retarded shit.

I like to mod werebeasts so they're vulnerable to silver, the werebeast antagonist civ from Masterwork has a very vanilla feel and is crazy dangerous.

>>150635005
It depends on the beast specifically, I've seen them with steel vulnerabilities, iron, gold, silver, etc.

>>150635027
>Realistic complaints about a game thats been in development for 10 years.

Actually thanks for correcting the record.

>>150635709
>think it is a game rather than an ongoing process to produce the best fantasy story generator ever
There's your problem.

>>150636192
>story generator that generates 1 year per hour after year 250.

Guess you like some short histories.

Or maybe you like all those stories about how named donkeys killed the goblin ruler or how those 10 legendary hammermen you left behind got killed by a 20 goblin siege that sustained 0 casualties.

Such a good story.

Let me tell you the epic about my ancient 200 year old dwarf civilization.

Gas yourself

>>150636561
How about you take your shitposting somewhere else?

Some of us like the game. Heck, I bet the majority of us does.

So fuck off.

>>150636707
I enjoy it, for the first hour before FPS death.

>>150636801
Reduce the embark size, limit your population, avoid too may animals, avoid waterwalls, lakes and stuff like that. Heck, there's even a page about it on the wiki.

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>>150635092
>Masterbloat
>a very vanilla feel

>>150636976
>>remove all fun feature from your game in order to play it.

SURE THING

Any idea why my clothier would refuse to make clothes with no message? There's plenty of cloth, there's no stockpile giving to mess it up, he has no other labors, and he's getting drunk at the moment. Does that outright cancel jobs with no message, even when put on high priority?

>>150637128

>says "thing is very vanilla"
>response is "literally everything by the author of the thing is vanilla? lol!"

>>150637360
Are all the resources forbidden or dumped or something?

Maybe burrow is set on?

Maybe he's just slow as fuck, if you give them too many distractions (tavern, meeting hall, library, temple) they spend more time fucking around because in between binging they are praying or some other shit.

>>150637589
All resources unforbidden and not dumped, burrow is off. The only location in my fort is a tavern, where he's currently drinking and singing and whatnot. If that outright cancels jobs instead of just making them wait until he's done, that's very stupid.

>>150637814
nah, it wouldn't cancel them.

Try making a new workshop. Maybe you set a workshop profile that was fucked up or something.

>>150637924
I haven't made any profiles at all.
After he finished singing at the tavern, he started actually doing his job instead of autocancelling every job after a couple seconds. I hate when I can't find the root of the problem, I feel like I'm going to start mass producing something important and not notice this happening until its too late.

>>150638302
The first thing I make is a manager.

I never single queue anything again.

Managers for everything, because they can't cancel those.

>>150638519

same, except when i want the job to use up all the mats, manual (r) is great then

>>150638627
I do that for food or brewing.

>>150638519
I haven't made a manager because from what the wiki said, the way it handles multiple orders from the same type of workshop doesn't seem like I'd be very happy with it. I'd rather have two workshops working on two different things than have both working on the same job, then moving on to the next job. Unless I'm misunderstanding what the wiki's saying.

Nah you are right.

I think you can fix that by designating a specific stockpile for that workshop only.

So your generics can do workorders, and your designated can pump out steel weapons/armor.

>>150639691
Can anyone confirm this? That I could handle.

>>150636561
You're absolutely right, there, you won, I'm going to quit playing and stop supporting the game. You can leave now.

>>150641476
Another cuck redpilled.

>>150641476
Agreed, my record has been corrected. I used to be the biggest Dwarf Fortress fan around, I even made my wife live in a hole in the backyard and hit her with a hammer when she would export socks, but I am now ready to #Rim4RimWorld

Any reason why one of my miners would be stopping mining to go pick plump helmets? He has no labors on but mining, and he's the only miner I ever see do it.

>>150642698
I think harvesting is a "hauling" labor, not growing or whatever.

>>150642698
Because your fort is set to All Dorfs Harvest.

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>>150642826
>All Dorfs Harvest

>>150642698
>>150642826

that's fucking disgusting

>>150642826
>>150642957
>>150643179
I had no idea this was a thing. The baron's gonna be pissed that Urist McRockfucker stopped digging out the tomb to pick a plump helmet to add to the pile of 2500.

>>150643660
>overfarming

>>150643838
>not liking food, a comfy and easy way to generate massive value

>>150643838
>not ensuring you have a surplus of food to survive any siege

>>150644094
>>150644193
Ordinary farming does this.

Bless the stone for cowardly drakes

One of the drakes pasturing was to late to retreat when a FB attacked and lead it on a wild goose chase through the caverns eventually managing to bit it in the foot (dying in the process)

was easy picking for my marksman rabbles

>>150643838
I'm not going to pretend I'm any good at the game. I just went into it thinking that it'd be better to have a lot more food than needed than end up with too little.

>>150645019
I end up having to throw tons of food away with even small farmplots.

But I use fastdwarf 1 because today can't program worth a fuck.

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First thing that attacks me in this fort. My militia is ready, but I'm afraid that the merchants get to her first.

>>150645019

a single 3x3 plot will feed a surprising amount of dwarves once your growers start gaining some skill

>>150645285

My first giant encounter

>Giant comes swooping inn
>Boom crash, Stone trap breaks its legs
>Overpopulated dog pen at the gate charges at it

>Giant drowns in barks as 30 dogs and puppies tears it apart

>next day i introduce 20 dogs to the butcher

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>>150645410
Feel free to laugh at my setup.
Most of them are for pig tails since I have a large clothing industry, but a lot of them end up doing plump helmets during one season or another.

Also I'm still having the problem where people are cancelling their jobs to sing in the fucking tavern, or any other tavern thing, nothing else is cancelling things. Why can't they just keep the job up for when they're done? Its annoying to have to keep checking up on those morons rather than just having it queued up.

Exactly what would be required to make it so that humans and dwarves can survive in worldgen in good/evil biomes?

>>150646000

Looks comfier and nicer than mine. I just get pissed and start mixing piles...

>>150644259

And kitchens make you hella money with prepared food. You can buy out entire caravans with a few pots of prepared food.

>>150608453
How important is weapon degradation? I don't really want to find a steel sword in adventurer mode only to give it up a few days later

>>150646000
>random pair of boots sitting in the middle of the field
oh dem dorfs

What does DF have that stonehearth doesnt besides larger number of units on screen at once

I made a stockpile for food down where my miners are doing their thing so they can travel a shorter distance when they need to eat, but peasants, after hauling food down there, are coming back and hauling food away. Any way to prevent this?

How bad does Cave Adaptation fuck shit up? I want my militia to be able to fight on the surface, but I also want to keep most of my buildings in caves like real dwarves.

>>150646000
Is that sand?

If it is, why arent you running a glass industry instead

>>150627861

Might be unconscious. Check his vitals with "v".

>>150637128
Nothing is wrong with masterwork. Just turn off the shitty workshops it adds if you dont like them, everything else is just improvements

>>150648273
I haven't played in years and I was even worse at the game back then, I just went with what I know.

>>150634337

Man, why do dwarfs claim the crafts shop ALL THE FUCKING TIME? Running a fort now and every dwarf has claimed the craft shop. I got a weapon rack, a mini-forge, and a ring as artifacts.

>>150646000
Manager solves all problems. The only manual workshop order I ever make is for a single chair. After that everything is the manager.

>>150648273

Looks like bins as represented by a tile set...

>>150649046

retard

>>150648709
In order to get any artifact other than craft you need dwarves that are already skilled in another profession like weaponsmithing or armorsmithing, even if it's just novice level. You should make a couple of your dwarves forge some giant axe blades or something

>>150649223
This, you're a fucking retard for thinking those are bins. They are dirt floors.

>>150649532

Ah yeah. I see what you mean. I would've swapped dwarves around but it's rather nice to have your army walking around with masterpiece weapons even if they are only silver.

Well, I thought I was doing pretty well, but all my dwarves just dropped dead of dehydration. I made a still and they had plenty of booze, so what happened?

>>150647637
I've literally never seen weapons degrade.

Armor degrades generally only when penetrated, so I've seen a steel gauntlet degrade only once (stuck by a goblin spear).

>>150648120
Badly. Have a sunlit area that is high traffic

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ambitious. most people settle for a mountaintop or a waterfall

>>150647967
A general

>>150549836
But what if their corpses were either lost or the dwarves won't touch said corpses??

>>150651680
Dont need a corpse to slab someone

I dont remember the process or else I would tell you, but just google dwarf fort memorial slab

>>150649532
So if someone is a legendary miner and novice weaponsmith, will he make a weapon artifact?

How do I get, say, the miners to eat from one stockpile, and the rest to leave that stockpile alone and eat from the main one?

>>150652008
Burrows. Probably