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/cfog/ - Classic Fallout/New Vegas General

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First Edition

>1 and 2
>Mods and Patches
http://pastebin.com/mtYCtDLV

>New Vegas
>General Information, Recommendations, Run Ideas, etc:
http://pastebin.com/wVAqLvCD

>/fog/ Asset and Mod Repository (Mods, Rips, etc):
http://pastebin.com/q5ryvSZc

>VGU (Rips):
http://pastebin.com/v1adFSwj
http://pastebin.com/S2eDehza

>Fallout
http://store.steampowered.com/app/38400/
>Fallout 2
http://store.steampowered.com/app/38410/
>Tactics
http://store.steampowered.com/app/38420/
>1,2 and Tactics Bundles
http://store.steampowered.com/sub/45615/
https://www.gog.com/game/fallout
>New Vegas
http://store.steampowered.com/app/2028016/
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We made it boys, we /vg/ official now
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First for Hell.
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Why is everyone in Resurrection such an edgelord?
Why every person seems to have 11 in Perception and 300 in steal?
>Hub given the non-canon ending of being wiped out
Back to F1/F2 for me, any build ideas?
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>>150725601
>tfw my FO1/FO2 Mods and Patches pastebin made it into the OP
I'm glad I could contribute something.
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DAILY REMINDER
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I'm starting a new playthrough after not playing the game in like two years.

I can't wait.
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>>150725735
God damn I love the Enclave, I'm not sure why. Probably that sexy as hell Advanced Power Armor.
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Just installed TTW for the first time, still figuring out how to get FCO faces to apply to Capital Wasteland NPC's to no avail. What ENB do y'all like best? I'm using Chromatic Melancholy, but it might be too bright and saturated for my taste.
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>>150725941
Nevada ENB with RWL.

Made for NV & TTW as long as you're using RWL.
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>>150725601
we could probably include links to the hi-res patches for fallout 1 and 2
and maybe the 2's restoration patch
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>>150725601
11th for ghouls.
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>>150726132
Come on, anon. I didn't make that pastebin for nothing, look at the OP again.
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>>150726269
>implying I can read
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>>150725940
>Plasma
>Air Superiority
>All American badasses
>Best armor in the wasteland
>Based and memorable characters

The Enclave are the heroes the wasteland deserves, it's a shame Bethesda fucked them up so royally.
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POST COURIERS AND LONE WANDERERS
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>>150725798
Dunno, I'm like 3h in the game in Sedith, it's fun so far, only person that wanted to shagg was ghoul.
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>>150727048
He's a big guy
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NCR is the only thing you need.
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>>150727163
Get that fucking propaganda out of here.
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>>150727048
Guess my tagged skills.
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>>150727127
Courier?
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>>150727242
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>>150726897
>The Enclave are the heroes the wasteland deserves, it's a shame Bethesda fucked them up so royally.
Fuck, man. Don't remind me. The Enclave were such a terrifying and extreme presence in FO2. The game made sure you know from the beginning of the game, before you even completely knew who they were, that they ruled the wasteland. They were the most powerful people to live in the post-nuclear world.
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>>150727219
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>>150727242
He doesn't get to bring any chems.
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Nitty, did you ever finish vanilla-fying NV Interiors?
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Bring on the baneposting
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>>150727445
There are more CIA/NV images than there really need to be.
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>>150727445
TELL ABOUT THE BURNED MAN
WHY DOES HE WEAR THE BANDAGES?
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>>150727502
You don't get to bring platinum chips
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>>150727220
Guns
Lockpick/Repair/Survival
Speech
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They work for the missionary... The burnedda man...
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>NCR
>Not sluts

Pick one and only one
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>>150727409

Nitty, from Nitty's Wild Ride?

If he's here, Nitty, does your mod really depend on JSawyer or can I get rid of it as a master file? I want to use the JSawyer Ultimate mod.
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So, what's been your favorite moment in any of your playthroughs?
>New vegas
>Confront Benny in his suite, before sending him away
>Pull out my power fist because I snuck it in
>Look him dead in the eye before punching him
>He pulls out maria and I charging strike him
>He stumbles back and drops maria
>We both dash for the gun
>I grab it first, and Benny starts to run when I take aim
>Pour every VATS shot into his skull
>Last shot in VATS crits and blows up his head thanks to Graham's armor
>take platinum chip off him
>Looks_like_you're_chip_outta_luck.jpg
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>>150727537
You're a burned guy
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>>150728238
lol someone edited my OC. feels good
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>>150727048
k

I hope this general survives

>>150728156
it's not a greentext story or an event, but the first time I played through Dead Money is my favourite moment

about 30 - 40 times later and it still hasn't lost its charm for me, either
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>>150727940
GET 'IM ON THE CARAVAN, I'LL CALL IT IN
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>>150728470
Same, gradually piecing the story together is one of my favorite experiences in videogames. I get the issues people have with it but it's like an exaggerated case of the main game for me where the story and characters really make up for the lacking gameplay.
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What are the worst choices in new vegas?
For me its
>Siding with the Legion and letting Caesar die
>Nuking the Long 15
>Evacuate Zion
>Killing mobius
>Killing the Van Graffs and the Crimson Caravan
>Make the Remnants join the Legion
>Make Veronica join the Followers
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>>150728156
>Doing Veronica's quest
>Fast travel to the followers
>Spawn in the middle of a herd of bighorners
>Veronica blows their heads off
>Now standing in the middle of a pile of bighorners headless corpses
Why are their heads so fragile?
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>>150729087
>Letting the Khans live and move into Idaho
>Blowing up the REPCONN ghouls
>Fiend dog brain for Rex
>Not killing the Powder gangers
>Blowing up the securitrons in a YES man run
>Putting the dam out of commission
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>>150727337
Fallout 2's intro is so fucking good in that regard

>vault opening
>enclave troops outside
>vault dwellers happily wave to the troops
>cue hail of 5mm
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>>150729703
What happens if you give Rex a fiend brain?
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>>150729538
When you've got a huge head that could get blown up in a hostile work environment, it usually will
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>>150729747
Why did they fire on them? I thought there were purists and only wanted to kill muties.
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>>150729771
>Revitalized by Violetta's brain, Rex eventually learned to balance the memories of his old life with Violetta's experiences among the brutal Fiends. His mind had difficulty adjusting, but Rex eventually found peace with his new, more vicious self
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>>150729747
NOTHING
WRONG
i love the fo1/fo2 cutscenes
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>>150727048

This is as much of my character you will see.
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>>150729909
How do you talk to the fiends? Do you need to have a negative reputation with NCR?
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>>150730387
you can't talk to the fiends. At least not the ones outside vault 3
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>>150730387
I don't think you can outside of Vault 3 without mods or console commands, it's a shame because Nephi, Cook-Cook and Violet all have really distinct voice acting. I can only assume you were supposed to interact with them originally, perhaps as part of that Khans quest but it got cut.
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>>150725745
>travelling new vegas
>enemy pops up on compass
>crouch to try and sneak up on in
>1 enemy turns into 3
>3 turns into 7
>wtf is going on?
>big black and yellow things everywhere
>stealth doesnt work
>spotted
>cant run
>dead
>reload from a save
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Anyone have the link for New vegas Mod organizer?
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>>150730739
think i had less trouble with the dam quarry full of deathclaws, at least they cant fly at you at 500 mph
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>>150729909

This upsets me a lot. I don't get how Rex works. Replacing his brain feels like he is no longer Rex, he's just another dog.

I wish we had a special quest to actually cure him as opposed to replacing his brain.

Also, on an unrelated note: still patching my installation, revisited some NPC edits and realized I missed a few very important YUP fixes, mostly removing No Low Level processing flags and restoring the right outfits to the Omertas and Chairmen, as well as removing Legion faction properties from the Disguised Frumentarius (this explains why I kept seeing him dead in my last playthrough).
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>>150729995
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/55334/?
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>>150730523
c u t c o n t e n t

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/58324/?
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>>150730608
>there is no cut content mod for NV
It'd be a huge undertaking but it'd improve the game so much. Especially if the Legion gets more fleshed out considering how empty they are right now.
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>>150731386
NV in a current engine with all the cut content restored and the DLC further integrated into the game (minor stuff like stuff like reuniting Veronica and Christine or showing Follows Chalk the outside world) would really be my dream game. It sucks that despite how fucking huge that game is they had so much more they wanted to do with it that they just weren't able to.
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>trying to melee the powder gangers be like
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Help this poor wastleland scavenger
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>>150732080
toggle archive invalidation
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>>150731929
>current engine
I want this more than anything. Fucking Gamebryo is built out of goddamn toothpicks.
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>>150732240
Even the F4 engine is outdated as shit
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>>150731929
>reunite Christine with Veronica
>not having them Let Go and Begin Again

baka
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>>150732338
>Even the F4 engine is outdated as shit
That's because it's still Gamebryo with a new coat of paint.
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>>150732349
>not killing Veronica and Christine
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>>150732173

archive invalidation on = gun broken, everything else works

archive invalidation off = gun works, everything else broken

well
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>>150726897
Yeah seriously. I was so pissed when I couldn't join them in fo3. I personally thought that the Brotherhood was fucking boring (minus Three Dog)
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>>150731929
>>150732240
Well, it's possible. Look at what the guys are doing with stuff like Skywind, which is a much bigger game than Oblivion (though probably easier to create). Unfortunately I don't think NV has enough of a following to ever really get that.

If I knew how to mod in any way I'd definitely work on trying to implement some cut content, but unfortunately I'm completely clueless.
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>>150732581
I was only memeing you as it's a trivial step that people forget about

but I said toggle, so turn it off and then back on again
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>>150732663
>tfw TESfags are always more devoted
IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>150732640
>he liked Three Dog
Holy shit, casual scum spotted.
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We /offcial/ now? Finally!

Enclave is the best faction.
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>>150733483
Yep, thank /v/ mods for that.
Of course they are. Nobody else compares.
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>>150731068

Already got that one, senpai, but thanks anyways!

>>150732640

>three dog

I think that character embodied the nigger community fairly well. Loud, annoying, stupid.
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>>150732675
Did it a thousand times, I had problems before with WRP but fixed them by installing it manually. After a day I get this. I don't even know what's causing the error, doesn't looks like a simple mesh error.
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>>150733598
I was in the last thread, but I signed off after a while. It feels good to wake up to this.
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>>150732808
Don't get me wrong, I loved Enclave Radio but the same 10 patriotic songs and 5 speeches by the president did get a little dull fairly quickly. Also how Three Dog described your character with what your Karma/level was a nice touch (it did conflict though: calls you a wasteland messiah then calls you an asshole for blowing up Megaton 5 secs later)
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>>150733875
>Also how Three Dog described your character with what your Karma/level was a nice touch
It's immersion breaking for him to know every little thing and know it was all you literally as soon as it happens.
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>>150733782
>No feathers
TRASHED
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How are you people able to take such awesome screenshots?
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>>150734024
heh, I guess you're right about that.
Are there any mods that add a Enclave victory ending that involves you actually becoming a part of the Enclave.?
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>>150734280
ENBs.
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>Favorite gun
>Favorite secondary gun
>Favorite armor
>Favorite companion
>Favorite faction
>Favorite minor faction
>Favorite DLC
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are Mr. New Vegas's news segments bugged? Because he's supposed to say something when you retrieve Ranger Morale's corpse, when across several files, I've only heard that broadcast once.
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>>150727048
Ave, True to Yes Man.
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>>150734974
>Favorite gun
Paciencia
>Favorite secondary gun
The 357 magnum revolver pistol.
>Favorite armor
Lightweight leather armor is both aesthetically pleasing and useful.
>Favorite companion
Raul Alfonso Tejada and Rex.
>Favorite faction
Mr House or NCR
>Favorite minor faction
The kings, which puts me in a bit of an awkward position.
>Favorite DLC
Dead Money
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>>150734974
>Favorite gun
Medicine Stick
>Favorite secondary gun
Dinner Bell
>Favorite armor
Remnants Power Armor
>Favorite companion
Veronica
>Favorite faction
NCR desu famalam.
>Favorite minor faction
Brotherhood of Steel, Khans are awesome too.
>Favorite DLC
Tie between Dead Money and Honest Hearts, loved the shit out of Dead Money's stories and how Dean is related to it, but goddamn the Randall Clark story rivals it too.
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>>150734974
>Favorite gun
Plasma Defender, honestly forgot about this gem at first.
>Favorite secondary gun
Ballistic Fist
>Favorite armor
Elite Riot Gear
>Favorite companion
ED-E
>Favorite faction
Enclave (sided with Yes Man)
>Favorite minor faction
Boomers
>Favorite DLC
Old World Blues
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>>150734280
ENBs, console commands, weather mods & retextures
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Hot damn! I been looking for one of those for years! For my customers, I mean... I'm not into that kind of shit.
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>>150736330
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>Fav gun
Tri-beam laser rifle (GRA)
>Fav secondary gun
Survivalist's rifle
>Fav armour
Elite riot gear
>Fav companion
Raul
>Fav faction
Mr House
>Fav minor faction
Boomers
>Fav DLC
Tie between Dead Money (story/ characters) and OWB (dialogue)
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This honey mouthed son of a bitch just slapped your gf on the club and said he was a freeside VIP. What do you do?
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how do you install fomods in mod organizer?
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>>150736946
Jokes on him I don't have a gf so he just slapped some random bitch.
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>>150734974
Elijahs advanced LAER
Holorifle
DM stealth suit with ghost people head
Ed-e
Yes man
The kings
Lonesome road
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>>150736946
yell EXTRAVAGANZA as a shoot him in the face
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>>150736330
>been looking for years
>never walked down the street to the old robot company building

what a silly cleft he is
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>>150737098
>ghost people head
You can loot their helmets? What the fuck...
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>>150725864
Fuck off with your NCR propaganda.
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>>150736975
anyone?
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>>150737184
you can get the entire ghost people outfit (hazmat suit) in OWB
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Holy shit, just finished exploring Vault 11 and learning it's lore. Goddamn, why is Obsidian SO FUCKING GOOD WITH WRITING LIKE HOLY SHIT MAN THEY'RE SO GOOD.
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>>150737343
>>150737184
What he said, you should check the wiki for the exact location
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>>150737350
Which vault was that again?
>>150736946
Break his teeth, take his caps and hire Ben
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>>150737278
I'm using MO and have was able to install that very same version of that mod with no issues, sorry dude but I think it's a problem on your end. I'm using W7 and it looks like you're on 8 or above so it could be related to that.
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>>150737209
Hello Leigon shill.
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>>150737581
One where people vote for a sacrifice so that they won't be killed. It's amazing really, makes you think "why the fuck is the person elected refusing to be part of the election?" Then you read the terminals and you slowly realize, damn. There's also that blackmail thing where they forced a woman to do their sexual favors in order for her husband to not get elected, he got elected anyway.
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>>150737873
I didn't know about the women. Or maybe I have bad reading comprehension. That shits pretty fucked up.
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I bought my wife a little car here in New Vegas. An Omerta. It has a hood under the hood. Ay-ay-ay!
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>>150738110
I didn't understand some of his jokes. Can I not into slang?
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>>150736330
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>>150738110
Whoa, baby! Am I looking at a mirror, or are you just that ugly?
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>>150737964
But wait, there's more!

"In an act of suicide they defied the vault computer and refused to send any more sacrifices, only to discover that their defiance was exactly what the vault computer wanted. They were given the freedom to leave the vault and congratulated for their selflessness."
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>>150738238
Damn, he's even considering himself to be a fucking degenerate.
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>>150738252
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>>150738412
It's great to be up here, looking down at all your smiling faces. That won't last long
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>>150738412
Damn, what visual setup?
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>>150727048
Here you go
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>>150738727
Looks like standard Darnafied UI.
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>>150739000
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>>150738727

- NMC's Texture Pack Medium (lel, 1GB VRAM)
- New Vegas Redesigned 3.7 (don't know if this changes anything, though)
- Ghouls Hi-Res Retexture
- Wasteland Clothing HD
- DarnUI
- Dynavision
- Interior Lighting Overhaul
- Reshade preset for Realistic Wasteland Lighting Enhanced
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The Mojave sure is beautiful
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>>150739686
Sure is.
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>>150739878
I can't help but hear this in my head when I see that screenshot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM
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Daily reminder there are cut content restoring mods that restore anything from a pointless NPC to a significant dialogue exchange such as this one.
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>>150740525
That quotes in the base game.
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>>150730608
>>150731386

There are quite a few cut content mods.

- New Vegas Uncut 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 (what I use)
- New Vegas Uncut - Outside Bets
- Uncut Wasteland (compatible version with the above)
- Strip Wall Billboards
- Cut Sewers Restored
- No More Giant Manhole Covers

All of those but Outside Bets are recommended by EssArrBee's guide. I don't use Strip Open and Freeside Open because they are known to cause troubles.
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>>150740963
Yeah, these restore a lot of cut content, but only the smaller stuff. There's huge chunks of NV missing which no one's even attempted to patch in.
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>>150741041

May be because it would be a nightmare to, not to mention one may have to create their own content to patch it correctly. Or in the worst case, having to create new dialogues...
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>>150725601
>NV cucks finally made their own containment general

Thank you, sincerely, thank you.
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>>150741442
now stay in your own.
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New Vegas is fucking shit
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>>150739878
>>150740113
The Emperor: THIS IS SO SURREAL. AM I ON DRUGS?
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Ignore Bethesbabby bait
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>>150741220
I mean, yeah, you wouldn't be able to patch it straight in. You'd have to actually create content. But that wouldn't be such a huge undertaking compared to some of the huge mods already out there especially seeing as there's already bundles of information to go off.
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We did it!
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>>150741861
What weapon did you use?
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>>150742024
i believe i see some kind of super sledge on his back
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>>150741515

No, you.

I'm debating on whether to continue playing in my current save and face the consequences of deleting some fairly big mods, or start anew in the not-so-near future.

What sould I do, guise?
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>>150742024
Dinner's Bell with Dragon Breath ammo. The entire cave.

>>150742074
That would be correct, it's Oh Baby!
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>>150742083
Tell us about the mods you removed, most mods don't affect save files permanently
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>>150742074
Mauler on deathclaws is so fucking good.
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>>150742467
Not bad.
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>>150742467
nice
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>>150742467
How do lower karma fast other than slaughtering towns and stealing shit.
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>>150742737
if you want to grind it out in a cheesy way, activate owned terminals repeatedly
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Like I always say, a polite society is an armed society.
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How would I go about making a Judge Dredd character in NV? What would be my SPECIAL, Skills and Perks? How would I go about roleplaying?
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>>150743316
Make sure your ending is NCR with bad karma.
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>>150742221

Well...

- STUN
- NV Bounties I
- NV Bounties II
- The Inheritance (I had already started the mod)
- King of the Ring
- New Vegas Killer (I believe)
- NVInteriors
- Unique Skill Magazines

I have removed other mods, but like you said, those don't affect saves permanently. It's these ones which worry me. I'll need to fast travel to Novac and see if I CTD upon entering my room (I had decorated it with items from NVInteriors).
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>>150742737
Nuking people oughta do it.
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>>150743935
I wouldn't sweat removing any of those mods, they look fine, and the NVInteriors items should just disappear from your hotel room.

What you really have to watch out for is any weapon mod by Millenia
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>>150742467
>speech successes: 1279

how
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>>150744954
Guess it was time for a bit more conversation and less action.
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>>150744954
Angela Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9gFYv1GVAs
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Quick /cfogabcdefdg/, I'm going to be making a custom npc but don't know who to base it on. Any ideas?
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>Splitting generals
This is retarded, you all should be ashamed of yourselves
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>>150745349
Benny. Ring-a-ding-ding, baby!
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Is it possible to use the 4gb enabler mod on a pirated copy? The mod author explicitly made it so it requires a steam verification of sorts. He either did it because it's truly necessary for some reason or because he's a moralfag. Given his predisposition towards anyone that dares ask him this question, I would say it's the latter or both. Also yes, yes, i know i'm a pirate scum. It's complicated but i have my reasons. I just would like to know if there's a workaround to this or another mod that does the same thing that I may not know about.
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>>150744635

Well, so much for The Inheritance... left a black door where the door to one new interior used to be.

I'm too autistic to continue playing in this tainted playthrough.
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>>150745528
Mods legitimized it, cry to them shitcunt.
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Anyone else played 1.5 - Resurrection? I really enjoyed it but it was too short for something that was being developed for over 10 years. Still, I wish it was canon, the whole Rebirth stuff was better than anything that ever came out from jewthesda
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>>150745648
Nexus speeds are shit so I can't download it and check, but try this in the console

>prid 001790c2
>enable
>prid 001790c3
>enable
>prid 000cd207
>enable

if that works, he disabled them with a script for no good reason
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>>150745638
You can use it on a pirated copy, however you should use Large Adress Aware instead, better results & compatibility.

The 4gb enabler is shit.
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>>150745158
>exploiting a glitch
Well, that playthrough is worthless now.
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>>150746472
Okay, i will look into it. Thank you.
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>>150745538
Thanks senpai.

On a semi-related note, screw you facegen, you're terrible at making unique custom faces.
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>>150746680
Freaking normies, I swear.
>Hurr I found a glitch in teh game XD
>It will take me hours to complete XDXD
>What's the console? Is that like a hacker interface? XDXDXD
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I'm so glad we're our own separate general, away from Betshitsdas' games now.
Thinking of replaying 2 for the first time in years. Any recommendations, tips?
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>>150732080
Nobody? There needs to be something I can do about it
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>>150746396

It worked, but how did you do that? What if there are more bugs like this one regarding doors?
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>>150747341
Not this anon, but how can I into that game? I tried playing the beginning of it, but just got bored with the temple tutorial level.
>>150747818
I don't see anything wrong with the record you posted?
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>>150748443

>I don't see anything wrong with the record you posted?

Yes but the gun is still fucked. Thats my problem m8
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>>150748280
>how did he do that?
Those are doors and header markers I think?
>What if there are more bugs like this one regarding doors?
Find the refid for the doors and header markers that were deleted.
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>>150745638

Yes it is. But you need a trick to do it.

http://www.girlplaysgame.com/2015/08/17/fallout-new-vegas-beginners-guide-to-modding-a-next-gen-wasteland/

That explains it.
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>we have a general for real and decent Fallout titles

I'm pretty fucking chuffed with this

Feels good not dealing with Bethtrash, both games and players
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>>150748280
I just went to that same location in my untainted save and grabbed the ids with the console (you could do it in the GECK just as easily)

Honestly that mod author should have an uninstall option on his mod if he's going to do shit like this
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>>150746389
I don't like it.
>Hub wiped out
>Every character is an edgelord
>every guard seems to have 11 in perception, >Merchants have stuff nobody in the world is able to afford according to the setting.
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>>150748905
Hell yeah, took long enough
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>>150749015

Thank you!

I'm going to download the GECK right away, seeing as I found another of those bugs: right where the entrance to his boxing quest mod was.
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>>150746943
fuck I want some pizza
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>>150748443
>but how can I into that game?
stop being such a casual

Honestly, everyone hates the Temple of Trials, it's shit and devs were forced to include it in the game. Even once you get out the game can be a little slow at points (mainly because you only have terrible weapons) but it picks up pace soon enough.
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>>150749467
>OP Enrollment
What did they mean by this?
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>>150750337
It means they're hiring faggots.
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does anyone have that roll sheet?
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>>150751474
LGTSS
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>>150749467
nice screenshot
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>>150751617
Thank you anon, also roll
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>>150734974
>>Favorite gun
Pic related
>>Favorite secondary gun
Not a secondary, but the Holorifle.
As for a side arm, probably the Wattz 1000, but I've been really diggin' the RCW lately, now that I remember it exists because it never fucking spawns on anyone.
>>Favorite armor
Any kind of armoured duster or the Followers armoured coat. Gotta get me some of that Science cooch.
>>Favorite companion
I got it alone or Russel
>>Favorite faction
Do the BoS count as a major faction?
Also House and occasionally the Enseear.
>>Favorite minor faction
Flowers of Pocklips, Xenophobic BoS and the Khans, but the Followers come out in top, if only they'd realise the necessity of violence.
>>Favorite DLC
Fuck letting go
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Okay so I've been playing NV for the first time on the PC (yeah I was resigned to console faggotry before hand forgive me) and I'm trying to do veronica's quest and she won't talk on the damn intercom.

Tried to do it by just picking the lock and going in the old fashioned way and deal with the ranger and shit, and it forced her to talk to Macnamara, but when we're outside nothing I'm just forced to deal with the Ranger like normal and I could make you care just is stalled seemingly.

Am I fucked?
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>>150752491
Are you using any big fixes? If not get YUP and maybe load a save before you entered the bunker. If it's still screwed up you could try forcing the quest to progress through the console.
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>>150751617
roll-o-rama
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>>150752839
I have YUP.

I've tried saves from ages ago, nothing seems to let me in.

Aside from YUP all I have is Project Nevada, WMX, and it's compatiblity patch for PN, and the Run the Lucky 38 mod at the moment.
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>>150743486
>being the law gives you bad Karma

>>150743316
8-10 Strength, low Charisma, high everything else.
Use the most versatile rifle you can, probably an energy weapon due to the high tech nature of his even though it seems silly because he uses ballistic rounds there's a mod that was recently released which has his armour and then go be THE LAW.
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So where do I find mods?
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>>150753036
Have you tried using the setstage console command?
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>>150753036
Also I just tried forcing it though the console after the outside thing and so far nothing.
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>>150753483
No dice for some reason. Should I removing the quest and see if I can trigger it again? or just try to force it further along?
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>>150753483
>>150753525
Aw shit
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>>150753685
I'm fucked ain't I?

I'll try progressing Eyesight to the blind a bit more.

It's no real big deal if I complete it or not, I've done it a million times before and I'm doing a house run so she might hate me soon enough anyways since I plan to blow them all up.
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>>150753367
The Nexus, for starters.
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>>150753834
You can get a mod that's technically a restored content mod including voice files that allows you to ally the BoS with House.

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/37729/?
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>>150753673
I'm pretty sure you can't remove progress in a quest, only move it forward, so yeah try moving it forward by each stage until you get something that works. Worst case scenario you should at least be able to force it to whatever ending you want. That sucks though, I've experienced a few quests getting screwed like this but never Veronica's, although Eyesight to the Blind was one such quest, hopefully that one at least works for you.
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>>150754079
Yeah, it's weird I've played the game god knows how many times on the buggiest system to play this shit on, and hers was always the most consistently completable out of all the companion quests. (It was always boone's that fucked me over nine times out of ten)

>>150754069
Well shit. I might have to get that now.
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>>150754390
I can't play without having it, especially knowing that it was originally intended to be in the vanilla game.

Hell, even if I'm not siding with House I have to make sure it's installed.
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Lads, I feel dirty. I decided to do a play through on PC for the first time (originally playing it on Xbox). I went into Vault 34, and I now believe that place is literally hell. Trillons of ghouls, the radiation, and turrets made me their bitch. I went in with like 2. RadAways and I had to use console commands to reset my radiation because I couldn't find out how to get out of that godforsaken place and I ran out of RadAway. That place is nothing like I remember it when I played years ago on Xbox, and the o lay mod I have is project Nevada. Please forgive for using console commands lads.

Also, I've noticed a few things having not played in years. First, why is it that all your companions are pro NCR cucks? Their all either literal homos or sluts? ED-E is still the goat companion though.

What other mods should I get? I only want mods that make the game more "realistic", aesthetically pleasing, or balanced.
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>>150751617
Have one for Fallout 3?
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>>150754661
Project Nevada is probably the best mod available for New Vegas.
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>>150754697
I'm pretty sure there is one out there but I don't have it on me, sorry m8.
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>>150754661
I would recommed Realistic weapon damage
Shooting some dude in the head like 5 times is immersion breaking for me
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>>150754661
JSawyer is definitely worth checking out, it's a personal balance patch by the lead designer, you need to start a new game to use it though.

Vicious Wastes is pretty good if you want a more "hardcore" experience, it adds stuff like bleeding and drastically lowers your carry weight, it has a lot of MCM options too and has a patch for JSawyer.

There's also a newer recreation of JSawyer called JSawyer Ultimate by another guy which has MCM options but there's no compatibility patch for it and VW, so I can't say how they play together.
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>>150727048
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Does anyone know how to edit the weather frequencies for Realistic Wasteland Lighting Enhancement? I like the weathers being in but it rains too goddamn much, literally every day so far.
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>>150749439
>Hub wiped out
It made sense considering the NCR was too weak in the 2160's and couldn't protect it, and the mutants would most likely want to destroy it for revenge.
>every character is an edgelord
I can kinda agree with you but considering the post war situations you can't expect everyone to be welcoming and happy to talk with complete strangers. All the swearing was kinda excessive though, yeah.
>every guard seems to have 11 in perception
Never had a problem with that, your build probably sucks
>Merchants have stuff nobody in the world is able to afford according to the setting.
Such as? Never seen a merchant outside of Albuquerque (the most prosperous city in NM) sell anything better than a combat shotgun, plus Rebirth ghouls carrying advanced weaponry get killed all the time, providing caravans with said equipment.

All in all it was pretty good but again too damn short
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>>150755652
>Vicious Wastes
>I found dying to be too hard let's make healing items kill you faster
Can't recommend it.
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Can someone help me out
I want to uninstall some mods that I don't I've found better versions of but I don't want to fuck up my save
What types of mods are safe to uninstall from my game without ruining my playthrough?
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>>150756602
Yeah it can be a bit much for normal play, I only really use it every few runs when I'm in the mood for particularly tough playthrough.
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>>150756602

What?

The mod is great. And I say this having played a guy with low Barter, low Speech, and low Medicine during the start of the game.

I do use the Relaxed carry weight setting, because anything less feels too much of a bore.
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>>150757037
Not everyone enjoys sticking steel rods into their dick, anon.
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>>150757118
you're exaggerating t b h
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>>150754661
>Cucks
The memes
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>>150756724
Show us what you have.
We can't just say anything is fine without knowing what you actually have.
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Recommend me some lore friendly mods for character appearance
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>>150755910
>two hands on the pistol grip
>not using the fore grip
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>>150759091
NVR2
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>>150759138
>>>/fo4g/
Go take your cuckspeak elsewhere, graphics whore.
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>>150759091
FCO, if >>150759212 doesn't do it for you.
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>>150759314
Not him, but that's nothing related to graphics, retard.
That's just improper gun use.
Hell, I'm from a no-guns country and I know that.

Stop trying to instigate shit.
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>>150759314
Don't be a sperg
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>>150759314
>pointing out that a character doesn't hold a weapon the right way makes you a graphics whore and a bethesdrone
You can't make this shit up
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>>150759314
Come on now
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>>150759505
>>150759545
>>150759641
>>150759686

Holy shit.
I don't even know where to start making fun of you. This is like when an elite hitter gets a fat BP fastball and he panics because he doesn't expect it.
Did you even read the post? Is your reading comprehension the lowest level possible? Clinically Retarded? Autistic? Drunk? Vision Impaired? Trolling? TDK? Distracted by your own small penis?
I am at a loss. It's like you read the first word of my post, made up your own idea of what the post was going to be, and then just posted what ever shit came out of your ass first. HURR. HURR. DURR.

You should stop posting. Forever. Turn off your computer, unplug it forever, and just walk away. Just walk away.

Dumbest post I've read all year. By far. I honestly believe you don't deserve to breathe anymore. You should be locked in a room, and hooked up to an oxygen machine. Except this machine hold out, giving you no oxygen until the last possible second and you wail and gasp in pain, and gives you a tiny amount, before starting the torturous process all over again. Don't worry, it won't effect your brain like it would normal people who aren't fucking retarded.

Please do us all a favor and take a knife or pen, whatever you can find with a point, and push it up into your jugular vein. You need to stick that so far into your neck that it comes out the top of your head. You are the stupidest fucking moronic retard I've ever seen post on here and the world would be a better place if you weren't in it. I wish I could go back in time and abort you by finding your mother and kicking her down the stairs, stomping on her stomach and making her drink bleach. Never, ever post here again you stupid cunt muscle.
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>>150759353
Nah, FCO is inferior in every way to NVR2. In fact if you want to use FCO assets use NVR3. The guy who made FCO made characters really terrible, females look like traps and males stare deep into your soul.
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>>150759138
Yeah I wish the holding Animation was like that but eh it could be worse
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>>150734336
For Fallout 3, search for Enclave Improvement Project by Pistolero/Lawlder or whatever his name is on the Nexus.

Someone else also uploaded various fixes for the Enclave faction. but I don't remember what that one is.
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>>150759876
ok
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>>150759876
>putting this much effort into b8
I don't have enough (You)s to give you, I hope one will suffice

>>>/b/
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>>150759876
is this pasta?
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>>150758945
heres my loadorder
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>>150729863
Pic related.

If the wiki is right and I remember correctly, the Enclave were putting down "attempted resistance"
So it was mostly likely just brutality because fuck it.
Vault lives matter, etc...
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>>150760989
>Waving hi is attempted resistance
So for no reason?
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>>150761173
>he doesn't like the enclave
>>
Why do you have to use mods to be able to equip a mask, googles and helmet at once. This shit should be in the game from the get go
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>>150760484
Holy shit.
I don't even know where to start making fun of you. This is like when an elite hitter gets a fat BP fastball and he panics because he doesn't expect it.
Did you even read the post? Is your reading comprehension the lowest level possible? Clinically Retarded? Autistic? Drunk? Vision Impaired? Trolling? TDK? Distracted by your own small penis?
I am at a loss. It's like you read the first word of my post, made up your own idea of what the post was going to be, and then just posted what ever shit came out of your ass first. HURR. HURR. DURR.

You should stop posting. Forever. Turn off your computer, unplug it forever, and just walk away. Just walk away.

Dumbest post I've read all year. By far. I honestly believe you don't deserve to breathe anymore. You should be locked in a room, and hooked up to an oxygen machine. Except this machine hold out, giving you no oxygen until the last possible second and you wail and gasp in pain, and gives you a tiny amount, before starting the torturous process all over again. Don't worry, it won't effect your brain like it would normal people who aren't fucking retarded.

Please do us all a favor and take a knife or pen, whatever you can find with a point, and push it up into your jugular vein. You need to stick that so far into your neck that it comes out the top of your head. You are the stupidest fucking moronic retard I've ever seen post on here and the world would be a better place if you weren't in it. I wish I could go back in time and abort you by finding your mother and kicking her down the stairs, stomping on her stomach and making her drink bleach. Never, ever post here again you stupid cunt muscle.
Yes, it is pasta.
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>>150761237
I don't know if you know this Anon but The Enclave lost
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>>150760980
>pickable cave fungus
It's such a small mod, but I can't play without it.

As for what you can safely uninstall, I couldn't say as I don't recognise some of it and you've got so much there that I'd recommend backing up your save, then reinstalling everything you want.
That's the safer option because, due to the large number of mods you have, there's always going to be scraps of them lying around to cause issues.
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>>150761173
They were vault muties, Enclave had no choice
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Should I do a House run or go Leigon?
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>>150761416
>The Enclave and its war machine lost to a tribal
Born cucks, die cucks
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>>150761506
hmm ok i might just stick with what i have until i do another playthrough then
thanks anyway
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>>150761653
>House
May as well play Fallout 4.
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>>150762027
It's probably for the best.
Otherwise you'd definitely be risking it fucking up and ruining a fun playthrough.

What better versions of things came out that you want to update to?
There's probably an easy to update them all.

Or is this like switching JSawyer to the Ultimate version?
>>
How many times did Benny shoot the courier in the head?
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>>150761272
What mod?

>>150761653
House, ally with the BoS and go full technocrat, purging less intelligence wasters.
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>>150761653
Legion, it's pretty fun. Although I have a hard time doing degenerate quests such as searching for a sexbot, but if I were to outlaw anything deemed degenerate by the legion the playthrough would be pretty dull.
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>>150762497
>House and BoS
Don't do this to me
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>>150762497
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/45485/?
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>>150762491
2 times iirc.
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>>150762727
Why?
It's fun.
Get all the best tech, anon.

Give Cass over to the Van Graffs, too.

>>150762809
Does this work with other mods that add it armour or is it purely vanilla stuff?
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>>150762257
i wanted to remove milenias m4 mod because i have the aks and ars mod
i wanted to remove MAIBATSUs ak12 mod because ive got a better mod that adds that weapon
and i want to switch from the vertical recoil mod to real recoil when it gets a few more updates
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>>150763207
I actually don't use any of those, so I've got no clue about updating.
There may be some help in the "posts" tab on their respective nexus pages.
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>>150762918
>implying House's tech is worth anything when Big MT exists
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>>150763464
MAIBATSUs weapons are gone from the nexus and the ak12 mod im replacing it with is from the Gunnetwork
but ill see what i can find about the recoil mods
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>>150762918
It works with all armors and pieces.
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>>150759091
Those other replies are bang out of order

If you want to stick with lore, then you're after Hall of Face
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>>150764662
Ace of Base*
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>>150764662
The Lore version of NVR is really faithful to the original designs, it mainly just makes the more ugly faces look presentable. I agree that the Recommended version changes too much however.
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>>150765129
He modified a few people for personal tastes because he felt they would look different, though.
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>>150765231
I suppose you're right, I guess I just generally agree with them so they don't stick out to me.
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>>150759876
This is pretty good pasta.

yum yum
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What mods for New Vegas make melee combat fun?
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>>150766393
It's not a major change but makes it a lot better imo.

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/57729/?
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>find New Vegas mod that has Bane mask
>its been taken down from the nexus
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>>150766959
just wear the rebreather, its good enough
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>>150766959
Check LL, they don't give a fuck about copyright infringements.
If you find it, post it here.
I want to add in a pastebin to the OP with joke mods I also want to be a big guy.
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>>150768637
power bottom
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>>150768637
Top
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>>150768637
Top, obviously.

Also why did you faggots split the general? FUcking faggots
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>>150769020
Why do you care?
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>>150769020
Because this general isn't for waifu-posting, and that's the only reason to discuss Bethesda Fallouts.
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>>150769020
>why did you faggots split the general?
Mods did it. It's better this way.
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>>150769020
NVfags were at odds with the 4fags in /fog/, so started making daily /v/ threads, mods saw these as generals in all but name and moved one of the threads to /vg/ as its own general separate from /fog/.
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>>150769146
>It's better this way.
Not him but it's pretty retarded.
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>>150770174
In what way? We can't get along with /fog/, making separate generals is better for the both of us.
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>>150770174
Why? The two generals are made up of people that find each other insufferable. It makes sense to split them up, especially after the nearly constant New Vegas threads on /v/.
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Reloaded a save where I sided with Hardin, since my quicksave got corrupted. Is there any way via console to reinstate McNamara as Elder? I can reset Still in the Dark, but he's still a knight and Hardin's still the elder.
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>>150770174
>Not him but it's pretty retarded.
How so? NVfags and 4fags always hated each other. And having the classic games here as well means they'll have more discussion here than they ever had in /fog/.
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>>150770376
>We can't get along with /fog/,
Sure you can, both side just need to stop purposefully antagonizing each other with bullshit on purpose.
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>>150770492
Does anything happen if you make Hardin the elder?
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>>150771087
You cant get him to side with the NCR
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>>150770627
It's the internet, that will never happen
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>>150770627
You're speaking like this is simple.

We objectively cannot get along /fog/posters. The biggest reason being because we have different interests. /fog/posters have interest in arcade-oriented Fallout games by Bethesda, waifus with big asses and tits and other bullshit. /cfog/posters have interest in RPG-oriented games, lore consistency, writing, game design, etc.

It's just too difficult to get along. Even if we did 99% of the thread would be 4 vs NV arguments and that's just retarded. /fog/ doesn't like /cfog/ games and vice versa. It's better to gather people with overall the same taste in their own general because threads won't fall into mass-shitposting, conflicts, etc.

That's just one extra thread. Let it be. Again, it's better for the both of us.
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>>150771087
You can't broker peace with the NCR, I think that's the only major change.
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>>150771201
>/cfog/posters have interest in RPG-oriented games, lore consistency, writing, game design, etc.
No you don't.

And this fictional differences is exactly why you are here.
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>>150771201
Animeposter is right.
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>>150771289
>>150771174
Will I still have to complete Still in the Dark?
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>>150771434
You never HAVE to finish any quest.
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>>150771334
>You don't know what you like
Kill yourself
>>150771475
If I want power armor yes I do. Or I can just be a fag and do arcades quest but that takes a while.
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>>150771582
>You don't know what you like
I would honestly argue that you don't, because, if you did like all of those things, you wouldn't like NV very much.
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>>150771334
>And this fictional differences is exactly why you are here.
There are no fictional differences, it's like you never visited a /fog/ thread. /fog/ threads are 90% waifushitting. We don't want this shit here, this is why NVfags and fans of the original games walked away from /fog/. You're a delusional babby if you think we'll ever get along. Why are you asshurt about having two generals anyway?
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>>150771334
>fictional differences
Are you retarded?
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>>150771334
>fictional differences
>>>/fog/
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>>150771718
>/fog/ threads are 90% waifushitting
And from what i've seen, nearly half this thread is just gunfu posting.
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>>150772156
(You)
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>>150772156
>nearly half this thread is just gunfu posting
So you just rebutted your own argument. There are no fictional differences between /fog/ and /cfog/.It's time to go back.
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>>150772605
Why don't you go back then?
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>>150772156
>>150772605
>>150773109
You have to go back.
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>>150771201
>/cfog/posters have interest in RPG-oriented games, lore consistency, writing, game design, etc.
Ok then lets see

-New Vegas stated that Mr Handy robots were the invention of Robco, making no mention of General Atomics, the company stated to have made them in every other game.

-Both ultra-jet, and the wasteland survival guide, are in the mojave region, despite there being no realistic means for them to get there from the Capital wasteland in just 4 years.

-The DT armor system is so fundamentally broken that, in the base game, Enclave APA let you survive effectively zero more shot from two thirds of the weapons in the game. DT was so broken in fact that Sawyer had to give all medium and heavy armor DR in his mod to make them actually resist more damage then light armor.

-Because the armor system was so broken, alternate ammo types were effectively placebo effects, since armor didn't actually do anything.

-The faction reputation system was terribly broken, resulting in psychic NPCs who knew everything you did, even if there was no one around to witness it.

-The faction armor system was equally as broken, with NCR soldiers forgetting who you are, even if you are idolized with them, and Legion soldiers forgetting you are their worst enemy since Oliver when you are vilified with them, simply by putting on non face covering armor. Not to mention faction armor was never used in any quest, making it literally worthless on top of being broken.

-The 1-100 skill system had all the problem it did in Fallout 3, with some skills, like those relating to lockpicking and hacking, being worthless outside of the 25/50/75/100 thresholds, making all the other skills points invested into it a waste. While other skills like weapons skills, and medicine, offered up such low bonuses per point that they effectively only mattered every 20-25 points, making leveling them feel very weak and unrewarding.

(cont)
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Is real world lighting good?
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>>150773746
>>150773746
>>150773746
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>>150773808
I was afraid this would happen.
Now the mods will delete /cfog/ and we'll be back to square one.
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>>150773808
Oh boy here we go
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>>150773808
Stop trying to get this thread deleted, shitposteranon.
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>>150773808
Seriously, nigger?
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>>150773425
-The NPCs in New Vegas were barely more developed then those in Morrowind, with most of them never moving from one spot unless it was to go to bed, or to walk back and forth in a line for 5 minutes.

-Most of the shit you did in-game had very little effect in the game itself. Even things that should be massive like Gunderson blocking food deliveries to the Strip causing food prices to skyrocket had zero effect on the actual prices because Obsidian couldn't finish their own damn game.

The Narrative of the game is a trainwreck in itself.
-The Courier has no reason to go after Benny(something even Sawyer admitted)
-House destroying all trace of the culture of the triblas he recruited in just 7 years time is impossible(Something Sawyer admitted)
-Caesar doing the same to the trbials he conquered is equally implausible(something sawyer admitted to)

-When you get to New Vegas every faction jumps you for basically no reason, and tells you that they need you r help towin the war, then they send you on a series of quests that most of which have nothing to do with the upcoming battle itself, while leaving all the actual battle preparations as optional side quests that dont effect how the battle turns out.

-The NCR are one dimensional caricatures, who literally can't do a single thing, even as basic as clearing some giant ants off their major trade road, without slipping on a banana peel loony toons style and needing the player's help.

-The Legion are mustache twirling cartoon evil, raping, enslaving, and killing everyone for petty reasons that basically boil down to "this is the easiest way to control people". On top of that, the game makes them Legion of Dom evil by making them behind basically every single thing in the game to the point its has no credibility.
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>>150773808
Oh please no. Fuck off.
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>>150773957
>>150774007
>>150774020
>>150774101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
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>>150774179
-House's plan is so full holes, and hes done literally everything he can to sabotage himself, that he comes off as completely bipolar, and like he was written by several people who had no idea what they wanted to do with him.

-The DLC was jammed full of Avellone self insert special snowflake character Ulysses who was apparently even MORE behind everything bad happening then the Legion was ruining any sort of credibility that plot may have had.
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>>150773808
Fuck off
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>>150774179
>>150773425
Nice pasta, did you write that on your /fog/ sekrit club to shit talk New Vegas?

gb2 bethesbabby general
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>>150727048
>COURIER
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>>150774445
If this is a New Vegas general we should be able to talk about New Vegas, including all of its flaws right?
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>>150773425
>>150774179
>>150774403
Did Todd offer to suck your dick if you posted these?
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>>150762809

What terrain textures, anon?
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>>150774554
b-but anon this is classic fallout general all fallouts allowed even if we only talk about new vegas right
yeah i know /fog/ was the same thing but with fallout 4 being talked about the most but please don't point that out
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>>150774554
New Vegas has flaws but it's still better than Fallout 4, if you really don't like it I suggest you fuck off to your own general
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>>150727048
Old ass courier
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>>150773957
/cfog/ is literally mod approved, just ignore faggots who think they're in a position to police content they happen to dislike.
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should I
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>>150774983
Unequivocally yes.
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Yes, /cfog/ has a lot of posts pertaining to New Vegas, which is not a classic Fallout game. But Classic Fallout General is what we decided on name-wise. It was the option that people were in favor of the most.
FO1/FO2 have the potential to be discussed more here than any other place on /vg/.
On /fog/, FO4 barely relates the originals, so there's no point in talking about. And I'm sure most of the people there haven't even touched the originals.
Something as stupid as /ifog/ is a terrible idea. As much as I love the classic fallouts, you'd be fucking retarded if you actually think there's enough people to talk about it regularly without every thread getting archived in 10 posts.
With Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 being here, it has the potential for the most discussion, since FNV is heavily linked to the originals. It just makes sense.
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>>150774983
buy it you dumb leaf
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>>150774983
Of course not idiot. Buy the truly superior Fallout 4.
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>>150775246
May as well delete /fog/ and make creating /fog/ threads a bannable offense if all Fallout discussion pertaining to older games is relegated to this thread.
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>>150774697
>New Vegas has flaws but it's still better than Fallout 4
Really?

Fallout 4
-Took all the broken 1-100 skills and compressed them down into how they effectively worked away while offering more damage per perk then getting 20 points in one of the skills offered, but also added things like stagger, cripple, disarm, throwing arcs, and other special abilities, meaning they are worth more then the 1-100 skill was in past games.

-The new DR system in Fallout 4 works as a combination of DR and DT, offering a better armor system then either Fo3 or NV.

-The removal of skills, and locking everything to SPECIAL not only made SPECIAL far more useful then it was in Fo3 or NV, but also prevented many of the illogical scenarios fo3 and NV had were you could have 1 charisma, but still manage to convince everyone of whatever you say because you had 100 speech, and having only 1 INT, but still being able to solve any technical problem because you had 100 repair, or 100 science.

-Fallout 4's faction system works on behind the scene scripted events. These scripted events being far more controllable means we no longer have the bizarre situations like at the end of Lonesome Road where you can launch nukes, and have no one see you do it, but every faction knows you did it regardless because magic

-To compare the factions
--The BoS gets far more shit done on their own then the NCR does.
-The Institute, while portrayed as being behind everything, is revealed to not be, and most of the people in it are sympathetic of the plight of the wastelanders, unlike the Legion.
-The Minutemen are a for the people cooperative group instead of the police state of Yes Man.
-The Railroad are a group of freedom fighters fighting for a noble cause, and managing to survive a decades long fight against one of the most powerful group in the post-war world. Compared to House whose basically failed at everything hes ever done.

-Much hated features like Karma, and item repair, have been removed,
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>>150773808
DELET THIS
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>>150775534
Never said it has to be here. I'm just saying this is the best place for it.
They sure as fuck aren't getting discussed over there.
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>>150774983
> A FUCKING LEAF
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>>150775571
>Much hated features
>karma
>item repair
How to know your opinion is trash. I won't even bother comment the rest of your bullshit.
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>>150775617
It's not being discussed there because nobody's discussing it.
People are responding to bait and shitposting and then claiming it's censorship by proxy.
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this gun is ridiculous
i like it
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>>150725601
whoah whats going on in here? classic fallout, n-new vegas ?? WHATTTTTTT!!! WHY YOU DONT TALK ABOUT FALLOUT 3 AND 4!!!!!
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>>150775724
>>karma
Had no reason to exist in New Vegas and was too easy to game in Fallout 3.
Slaughter a family of innocents and cleanse yourself by handing a bottle of water, of which you have many, to some asshole outside Rivet City.

>>item repair
Made you hoard guns and armor to repair, making it pointless.
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>>150775571
-While not the same as alternate ammo types, weapons legendary effects are generally far more useful then alt ammo types were in NV, and many of them, like explosive rounds, being tied into the perk system makes their effects, and your character's perks, far more integrated into each other then in past games.

-NPCs are far more alive and active, having actual schedules.

-Power armor is the best its ever been i nthe series

-Weapon and armor modding has been taken to new levels

-The modular armor system allows for far more customization then previous games.
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>>150775824
DELETE THIS
LEGION SCUM
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Jesus Christ, guys. Are we really gonna argue about the games here too? Why can't we just live in peace?
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>>150775859
>using Fallout 3 in a NV vs 4 argument
This is how I know you're grasping at straws because you know yourself you're bullshitting.

Please fuck off back to /fog/.
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>>150775980
no
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>>150775530
Fuck off Todd
Shoo, shoo!
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>>150776048
Pre-FO4 /fog/ was the same, exact thing.

>>150776087
New Vegas didn't use karma at all.
Fallout 3 did, so that's the only comparison available to the exclusion of karma in 4.
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>>150775918
-Fallout 4 also took in many of the changes NV made such as a multi faction MQ, companions with quests and their own perks, and other means of getting perks like from magazines, and added them into itself.
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>>150728156
The moment I was smuggling drugs to the fiends for half a cap on all kinds of deadly mods
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>>150759923
>NVR2
How does
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/35100/?
have anything to do with making characters look good? Also FCO does have a "no npc edits" optional plugin.
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>>150776048
We're being invaded by autists from /fog/.
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>>150776236
>New Vegas didn't use karma at all.
Not him but yes it did.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Karma_(Fallout:_New_Vegas)
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>>150776345
>m-muh pure NV thread..!
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>>150775571
>>150775918
>>150776259
>Zenimax shills at it again
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>>150776452
>anyone saying anything positive about BETHESDA REEEE!!!! are Zenimax shills.
I can see why /v/ would kick you out.
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>>150774554

Wew. Let's see:

>New Vegas stated that Mr Handy robots were the invention of Robco

Citation needed.

>Both ultra-jet, and the wasteland survival guide, are in the mojave region, despite there being no realistic means for them to get there from the Capital wasteland in just 4 years.

There is no realistic means for the WSG to be mass produced, period. And Ultrajet is sold by Contreras, who has his fair amount of shady business.

>DT

Bad game mechanics, like in any game.

>Faction reputation

Same. And a needed one, too. NPCs are psychic because time in Fallout goes very slowly, and word would take ages to spread. This complaint of yours is ridiculous. Or do you complain about the timescale not being realistic?

>The faction armor system was equally as broken

Bugged, yes. Useless? Not at all. I blew up the monorail as a Legionaire because I disguised myself as an NCR Ranger.

>The 1-100 skill system had all the problem it did in Fallout 3

That's what happens when you make a sequel on the same engine and same mechanics.

>The NPCs in New Vegas were barely more developed then those in Morrowind

Yes, because as well all know, NPCs in Morrowind had distinct personalities, things to say, and schedules.

>Even things that should be massive like Gunderson blocking food deliveries

It's nitpicking time.

>The Courier has no reason to go after Benny

Revenge? Curiosity?

>House destroying all trace of the culture of the triblas he recruited in just 7 years time is impossible

Why?

>Caesar doing the same to the trbials he conquered is equally implausible

He doesn't. You can talk to the dog master in the Fort, and he clearly loves his former tribe, emotionally breaking down when talking about Caesar's Legion burning their dogs.
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>>150776394
Stealing already gets you shot on sight.
It has a very negligible effect on one companion.
Being good allows you to get Lanius to fight you one on one.

That's something, I guess, but nothing noticeable.
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>>150776343
Not the same NVR.

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/39218/?
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>>150776343
The NVR2 he's referring to is New Vegas Redesigned 2.

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/39218/?
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>>150776552
You tell him goodgoy! Where are my shekels now?
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>>150774554

>then they send you on a series of quests that most of which have nothing to do with the upcoming battle itself

False. Most of the quests consist of crippling the opposite factions, enlisting the helps of others, and making sure the faction will have total control after the war.

Or does "suicide attack by the Khans, help from the Boomers, upgrading Securitrons" doesn't ring a bell?

>The NCR are one dimensional caricatures, who literally can't do a single thing, even as basic as clearing some giant ants off their major trade road, without slipping on a banana peel loony toons style and needing the player's help.

Reminds me of certain NPCs in every RPG ever made.

>The Legion are mustache twirling cartoon evil, raping, enslaving, and killing everyone for petty reasons that basically boil down to "this is the easiest way to control people".

Who would have thought destroying people would be an effective tactic?

>On top of that, the game makes them Legion of Dom evil by making them behind basically every single thing in the game to the point its has no credibility.

Elaborate.

>>150774403

>House's plan is so full holes

Elaborate.

>special snowflake character Ulysses who was apparently even MORE behind everything bad happening then the Legion

Elaborate.

It's easy to spew shit ("doesn't make sense") when you don't explain yourself.

9/10, made me reply seriously in two fucking posts.
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Jesus fucking christ stop replying to the /fog/ shitposters it's pointless
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>>150777236
welcome to 4chan.
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>>150776593
>Revenge? Curiosity?

Additionally

>Failure to deliver the proper recipient may result in forfeiture of your advance and bonus, criminal charges, and/or pursuit by mercenary reclamation teams. The Mojave Express is not responsible for any injury or loss of life you experience as a result of said reclamation efforts.
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>>150776593
>Citation needed.
Inside the Repconn HQ in NV one can find a Mr Handy Robot with a plaque that claims it was made by Robco

>There is no realistic means for the WSG to be mass produced, period.
Because there is no such thing as a working printing press?
> And Ultrajet is sold by Contreras, who has his fair amount of shady business.
Which still doesn't explain how it made it to the west coast.

>Bad game mechanics, like in any game.
One that Fo3 and 4 don't have.

>Same. And a needed one, too. NPCs are psychic because time in Fallout goes very slowly, and word would take ages to spread. This complaint of yours is ridiculous. Or do you complain about the timescale not being realistic?
Except Fallout 4 achieved the same thing with scripted events that works without NPcs being psychic. So no, its not needed.

>Bugged, yes. Useless? Not at all. I blew up the monorail as a Legionaire because I disguised myself as an NCR Ranger.
thats not a bug, thats just the way it was designed, and you can do the same thing via sneaking.

>That's what happens when you make a sequel on the same engine and same mechanics.
The engine has nothing to do with it, as they could have turned it into something like Fallout 4, or closer back to Fo1/2 if they wanted.

>Yes, because as well all know, NPCs in Morrowind had distinct personalities, things to say, and schedules.
That would be a valid argument if it was true for the ones in NV

>It's nitpicking time.
In a game that tires to say your hcocies matter, and then they don't, thats not nitpicking.

>Revenge? Curiosity?
Aka, psychosis. Bad motivations

>Why?
Because its impossible to remove centuries old traditions in less then a decade.

>He doesn't. You can talk to the dog master in the Fort, and he clearly loves his former tribe, emotionally breaking down when talking about Caesar's Legion burning their dogs.
Except he clearly stats the Legion is better then what they were living like.
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I sure do love being raided by salty /fog/ niggers.

Back to waifu central with you.
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>>150725798
Because it's made by F1 fags that think 2 was too goofy so they went full retard in the other direction
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>>150727048
>a fucking mailman
Because NCR Ranger combat armor + helmet is the best armor in video game history and ED-E >>> everyone else.
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>>150776593
>House destroying all trace of the culture of the tribals he recruited

A better reply is the fact that this didn't happen. All Roads went on about how even the most loyal faction of The Strip, the Chairmen, still had members like Chance and an old storyteller that were wistful for their old lives as Tribals. The White Glove Society is civilized, but still cannibals that kidnap and eat people, only more orderly this time. The Omertas are still depraved animals that House has you put in line.

>The Courier has no reason to go after Benny

And this is true. One could easily make a Courier that wishes to avoid Benny altogether and live on with his life. The only time he has to actually go after Benny is if he wants to work around New Vegas, and the Platinum Chip is a part of it. Then he can have the reasons you said like personal revenge or curiosity, with additional ones like lust for power and money being thrown in as you talk to House.
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Ignore the /fog/ retards, you other retards.
Now, which game do you think had the better map and why?
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>>150776669
>>150776684
Ah okay that clears that up. I was always confused when someone mentioned that mod by using those initials when referring to better characters, and thought it was either some meme or shitposting.
>>150777236
We've only had one general and it's already going to shit.
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>>150777907
>We've only had one general and it's already going to shit.
It was always shit, even before this general was made.
/cfog/ was a mistake.
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>>150777779
Fallout 2
The only thing 2 has going against it is pop culture references and a weaker story. It is the better CRPG
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>>150777571
And they failed at that too.
IF you want a sad dying world, don't give merchants valuable shit they neither use nor can sell to anyone.
>lowest barter in f2 leather jacket costs 800
>lowest barter in ressurection it costs around 3 grand where the best you can get early game is 10-30 caps from picking pockets.
what the shit.
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>>150778006
>Fallout 2 is better than Fallout 1
Here we go again
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>>150777017
>False. Most of the quests consist of crippling the opposite factions, enlisting the helps of others, and making sure the faction will have total control after the war.
None of which have any reason to be involved in the war at all.

>Reminds me of certain NPCs in every RPG ever made.
and yet the BoS in Fallout 4 manages to plow down hordes of everything on thier own

>Who would have thought destroying people would be an effective tactic?
That wasn't even the argument.

>Elaborate.
Fiends attacking the NCR?
Khans attacking the NCR?
White Gloves turning back to cannibals?
Omertas plan to gas the strip?
Trouble with the monorail?
Searchlight getting radiation bombed out of nowhere?
Nipton goes quiet?
Van Graffs are working with shady character to attack the NCR?
the list goes on, The Legion is either directly behind or actively supporting literally EVERY single leaky pipe in the mojave. It goes beyond the realm of beliveable and realism into pure Gargoyles Xanatos Gambit level master plans.

>Elaborate.
>claims to want to rebuild Vegas
>wakes up over 100 years before NV begins
>does nothing to rebuild new Vegas until the NCR shows up. forcing him to pull last minute desperation tactics when he could have had the city already built up and defensible decades ago
>Throws everyone who wont play his dress up games out of the city, despite the fact this accounts for most of the people in the Vegas area, and means he has no support among the populace, making his plans that much harder.
>His method of overseeing the Strip, aka, nto doing it at all, is obviously going to cause massive dissent among his followers, which is turn causes the White Gloves to break their promise of no cannibalism, causes the Omertas to hatch thier plan to take over, and causes House's hand picked successor to betray him.
Literally everything House does is an obvious act of self sabotage that anyone with even a speck of intelligence could see coming and would avoid.
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Never played FO1 or 2, but I love new Vegas. Should I play 1 and 2? I feel the the 3rd person element could be really cool. How have those games aged?
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>>150777292
Not him, but I'm pretty sure they would waive that shit on account of, literally everyone thinking you died.

I still like NV over 3 and 4 though, I don't need much of a reason to go after Benny because I'll find an appropriate reason depending on the character I'm playing.
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Fuck's sake TTW makes loading plugins with the GECK unbearably slow. Half the time it never even finishes and just crashes.
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>>150778557
This is New Vegas General, sorry.
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>>150778557
Of fucking course you should play Fallout 1 and Fallout 2.
Dumb mouseposter.
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>>150777375

>That would be a valid argument if it was true for the ones in NV

I'm not even bothering with you anymore.
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>>150778760

I understand the joke but I did explicitly mention NV in the post so nice try I guess

Also, I need a mod for New Vegas that makes the damage more realistic. I have Porject Nevada, but I'm putting 3-4 plasma rounds into a ghouls head and it's not dying.
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>>150779290
SMELL
THAT
AIR
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>>150774179
>Sawyer said the couriers motivation to go after benny is bad
Source?
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>>150779529
Funnily enough Realistic Weapon Damages might be what you're after.
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>Some autists actually bumped the /ifog/ thread
It was about to get archived too.
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>>150779585
Not him, but It was on his tumblr somewhere, he said it some time ago.

Sawyer basically said he understood why a lot of people felt like the game offered them no reason to go after Benny, and that he had considered, and probably should have put it into the game, that the player could just leave the Mojave to its fate by leaving the region via the Mojave outpost and going back to the NCR where they came from, which would result in an ending of its own of how the Mojave out turn out if you never got involved.
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>>150778760
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLE3f0kWjoM
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>>150779863
Did he specify any further than that, like the fate of the dam?
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>>150779983
No, he just said "we maybe should have done it" he didn't go into detail as to what all the ending slides would be or w/e.
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>>150779949
Put the disk in the drive, anon, and nobody gets hurt.
>1366x768
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>>150780119
It's a shame they didn't do it. It's not like this was heavily time-consuming.
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>>150780543
Its pretty obvious looking at the game code that Obsidian had very little idea how any of this stuff worked, and tried to stay as hands off as possible to prevent stuff from breaking any further.
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>>150780770
I can understand that, they were using an engine made from toothpicks.
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>>150780165
>The Geck requires some unknown arbritary disk to be inserted into drive D
>Not any drive but specifically D
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>>150773808
DELET THIS!!!
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>>150780895
The engine is far from the problem, its how the engine is used that matters.
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>>150779863
That's very interesting, how do you think would the mojave turn out without the courier?
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>>150781028
Obsidian used the engine well. They managed to jury rig this shit to support looping reload animations and more effects than 3 had. The secret ending just involves a chain of dialog and ending slides.

Meanwhile in 4 looping reloads don't exist.
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>>150773425
>New Vegas stated that Mr Handy robots were the invention of Robco

They were an invention of robco AND general atomics. It's in the wiki.

>Both ultra-jet, and the wasteland survival guide are in the mojave region

Could you explain then how the fuck is there jet in the capitol wasteland? trade routes my man. 4 years is more than enough time to make that trip.

>The DT armor system is so fundamentally broken

One of the main reasons they changed the DR system from fallout 3 is because it made the game too easy. Wearing light armor and heavy armor do make a slight differences though, heavy armor just doesn't make you invincible like before. The mod that adds a small DR boost is nice though i give that.

>alternate ammo types were effectively placebo effects

Less bullet spray, more damage than normal bullets depending on the target, less wear to the weapon, different effects like explosive, incendiary, pulse, no? nothing at all right?

>The faction reputation system was terribly broken

So you would prefer your choices having no consequences? Scripted shit like in fallout 4?

>The faction armor system was equally as broken

It's a disguise mechanic yes, so npc don't recognize you when you wear them. They're useful in quests too, there just isn't a quest marker telling you to "put the disguise" since this isn't bethesda.

>The 1-100 skill system had all the problem it did in Fallout 3

Literally the only skill that has that 25-50 problem is lockpick. All the other skills including science have many skill checks at different thresholds (something not present in 4), and are also required for crafting different things. Different weapons have different skill requirements too (also unlike fallout 4).
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>>150781104
Based on how the game was going, I would saw the Legion would likely win, though with Caesa'r tumor, it would be a short lvied victory.

The simple fact of the matter is that Obsidian made the NCR so completely and utterly incompetent at literally everything they were doing in-game, and made the Legion such "masterful" planners that managed to get basically every faction thats not the NCR on their side, that the NCR has no real chance to win without you coming in and fixing everything for them.

House has literally no chance of winning, as he really has no other agents as skilled as needed to get the chip back, and activate the securotrons under the fort, needed for him to win.

but as mentioned, while the Legion would win, Caesar would die of his tumor long before he could finish remolding the Legion like he wanted.

resulting in the Legions collapse as all the various local commanders and groups within the Legion started fighting among themselves, breaking down into basically the same sort of tribal morass they were before Caesar came along in the first place, except better armed and trained.

The NCR would likely suffer some massive internal issues due to the failure of the war in the Mojave, but otherwise they would likely survive as political entity, and everything would just regress to what it was post Fallout 2 pre NV
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>>150778178

but it is, truth be told.
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>>150781628
Please stop replying to shills.
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>>150779863
So what? They're whining that you couldn't end the game as fast as possible?
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>>150781645
Do you think House would survive holed up in the lucky 38?
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>>150781628
>It's in the wiki.
That was added after NV came out as an attempt to explain the plot hole.

>Could you explain then how the fuck is there jet in the capitol wasteland?
Jet is a pre war drug.

>One of the main reasons they changed the DR system from fallout 3 is because it made the game too easy.
Actually Dt makes the game more easy then DR did,. since its far easier to reach the maximum resist cap in NV then it is in Fallout 3, since DT works on a straight subtraction system, and most guns do such shit damage that even light armor can negate it down to the 20% cap, which was the cuase of needing to add DR in the first place.

>Less bullet spray, more damage than normal bullets depending on the target
All of that ws negated by the fact spray never matters, additional damage didnt matter sincey ou already did so much damage it ws just overkill on overkill, and wear to the weapon was negated by the fact there was a town every 5 feet, and it was piss easy to get shit repaired.

>So you would prefer your choices having no consequences? Scripted shit like in fallout 4?
Except they do have consequences in Fallout 4, far more logical ones then in NV since it is scripted.

In Fallout 4 I can play the various factions for ages since I dont magically lose rep with them by doing something they have no ability to know I did like in NV.

In Fallout 4, I can kill patrols in the wastes, and not get kicked out because they dont magically send telepathic messages that I was the one who killed them like in NV.

In New Vegas, you were basically forced to work with a faction entirely, or not at all, there was very little in the way of being able to play them all, while working for yourself, because everyone just KNEW what you did magically.

Fallout 4 gives you far more options in that regard, and makes when you do get kicked out far more impact, since its happening because it should, not because
>LE MAGIC!

(cont)
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Why did they do everything they could to paint the legion as the bad guys? All your companions hate them, everyone in the Mojave hates them, etc...
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>>150782456
because they are the bad guys...
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>>150782415
>Jet is a pre war drug.
Is this you Pete? What are you doing here?
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>>150782415
jet is a post war drug, you retard
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>>150782415
>Jet is a pre war drug.
(you)
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>>150782629
>>150782652
>>150782697
>Sure he's a compulsive liar, but he was telling the truth this time!
>it's not like he copied a pre-war drug during the worst economical downfall in US history..!
>b-brahmin didn't exist back then, it's not like regular manure would w-work!
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>>150781628
>It's a disguise mechanic yes, so npc don't recognize you when you wear them. They're useful in quests too, there just isn't a quest marker telling you to "put the disguise" since this isn't bethesda.
They are only useful if your so bad at the game that you cant either sneak or kill shit, which means, you basically have to be bad at the game entirely.

>Literally the only skill that has that 25-50 problem is lockpick. All the other skills including science have many skill checks at different thresholds (something not present in 4), and are also required for crafting different things. Different weapons have different skill requirements too (also unlike fallout 4).
All of which doesn't change anything since
A. All skill check levels are 100% arbitrary, and having them at various levels didn't matter much because it was so easy to boost your skills that it as neigh impossible to ever not be able to pass a check. One could easily just reduce them down to 25/50/75/100 skill checks, and have the game play exactly the same.

B. Crafting is exactly as arbitrary as the skill check levels were, and can be handled in so many different ways, like Fallout 4 did with various perks, magazines, and other shit.

C. weapon skill requirements meat about as much as strength requirements, which is to say, nothing at all since if ou were playing a guns character, you were going to try to level our guns skill to max ASAP anyways, meaning you basically had to TRY to not meet gun skill requirements.

On the subject of weapon requirements, STR requirements were equally as pointless and a non-mechanic because, if you were going for heavy weapons, you would already be trying to raise your STR so carry them and not have them take up all your inventory.

With how ineffective they were, its not surprise they were removed in Fo4.
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>>150782896
You tell him friend!
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>>150782005
The Legion may be primitive by compare, but eventually they could topple the place, or blast the main door open and get inside and kill him.

The only reason the NCR hasn't is because they don't want to waste men that could be used to fight The Legion
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Remember to come here for your isometric Fallout needs.
>>150773746
>>150773746
>>150773746
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>/fog/ shitters so mad we got our own general they're trying to troll and create an isometric fallout generals to get this one deleted

Simply ebin
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>>150783345
Having gone to /fog/ none of them knows who made it, and no one is talking about it.

Seems more like internal problems.
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>>150782896
Myron's a compulsive liar? Since when?
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>>150774179
>The NPCs in New Vegas were barely more developed then those in Morrowind

Just like fallout 3. At least named npc's are interesting to talk to, most of them anyway.

>Most of the shit you did in-game had very little effect in the game itself

Most of the things you do possibly will make a faction angry and appear in the ending where it tells you what happened. The gunderson thing is a rare case but the game was rushed remember?

>The Courier has no reason to go after Benny

As said before: revenge, answers, the contract telling you that if you don't deliver the package a group of mercenaries will kill you, general role playing reasons.

>House destroying all trace of the culture of the triblas
>Caesar doing the same to the trbials

Explained several times through dialogue. The whole white glove quest is about not letting go of the old ways of that tribe.

>When you get to New Vegas every faction jumps you for basically no reason

They say that they're impressed about the "splash" you caused in new vegas since your arrival and the fact that you made the head of the tops flee from his own casino. They basically send you to tie loose ends and gain allies for the upcoming war, that pretty important to me I don't know.

>The NCR are one dimensional caricatures
>The Legion are mustache twirling cartoon evil

Literally no, they both are both fairly morally gray. The ncr wants your help if you're willing because due to bureaucracy they can't get anything done, is not that they can't kill those ants if they want. The legion is nothing like you described it. You barely played the game.
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>>150783520
Just stop replying to shills, they will get bored if they are ignored ffs
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/cfog/ Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bQGRRolrg0
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>>150783520
>Just like fallout 3
Actually NPCs in Fallout moved around quite a bit. Lucas Simms for instance would patrol the whole town, go eat and his house, and even sometimes stop at Moriarty's. Most NPcs in the larger towns like Megaton, Rivet city, Underworld, would walk around and visit each others stores/shops.

> but the game was rushed remember?
The game being rushed would mean that Obsidian's time was cut short at some point. IT was not. Obsidian knew how much time they had from the beginning, and got the time they were promised, that they used that time poorly is their own fault.

>Most of the things you do possibly will make a faction angry and appear in the ending
hat would be a valid argument is this was 1998, it is not. Obsidian's inability to make a game they could complete is not excusable by "well it was ok back then!"

>As said before
All of which Sawyer said he udnerstood why they wouldn't motivate people.

Not to mention the contract things is debunked by the fact you were a week overdue by the time the game begins, and no mercs had been sent to you. It was literally a hollow threat by the time you wake up.

>Explained several times through dialogue.
Except, again, it was only a small group of them doing it. No one can so thoroughly erase the tribal identity from so many people in a group in just 7 years.

I don't know why you are so hellbent on defending this when even Sawyer said it was a mistake

>They say that they're impressed about the "splash" you caused in new vegas since
Which makes about as much sense as the US Government going up to Robert Downy Jr and saying people love him as Iron Man, go to Iraq and negotiate truces with all these local group for us.

>Literally no, they both are both fairly morally gray.
They are grey in bases, in implementation they are taken so far to their various extremes they stop becoming believable, and instead become cartoon caricatures
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>>150783863

I can't live without you /cfog/. Please... Come Home...
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>>150783697
You know what, you're right. There's really no point.
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>>150784206
i don't think you quite understand what "rush" means
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>>150785085
>he has no argument so he drops it entirely
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Just how long was Long Dick Johnson's dick?
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>>150782456

Because they are fairly evil. You can either agree with their methods or not, but that doesn't stop them from being evil.

>>150782896

>oh, the game said something
>let's blow that something out of proportion!

Yes, because FO2 really intended Jet not to be created by Myron.

Also

>b-brahmin didn't exist back then, it's not like regular manure would w-work!

How would you know? Are you implying that regular cow shit is the same as Brahmin feces?
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>>150784206
>Rushed
If I gave you a 3 minutes to walk across a desert, you'd know how much time you have, but still be unable to do it
>Ending
You mean the thing that you had to pay for in 3?
>Sawyer
He understood spergs like you wouldn't be pleased with a character with no predetermined character.
>Iron man
Except you actually did it. Which would be Iron man and they would send you to negotiate.
>Cartoon Caricatures
How so?
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>>150750414
What mod did you use for those eyes?
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>>150784206

>Obsidian knew how much time they had from the beginning, and got the time they were promised, that they used that time poorly is their own fault.

>you are only giving me two days to film this 90 minute film!

>but you know beforehand, so it is enough time

>oh you are right sir
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>>150785779
He seems to consume it on a regular, an expert in shiteating.
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>>150785235
I had an argument for your last post, but is there a point? I will refute everything you said and you will deny all of it because in your mind it has to be new vegas=everything is bad, everything is shit, fallout 4 good, new vegas shit. Just read what you said in your last post, it's all fucking retarded. It's tiresome, man.
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>>150785659
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>>150786141
What is this abomination?
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>>150785849
>How so?
See things like
>>150778242
>Fiends attacking the NCR?
>Khans attacking the NCR?
>White Gloves turning back to cannibals?
>Omertas plan to gas the strip?
>Trouble with the monorail?
>Searchlight getting radiation bombed out of nowhere?
>Nipton goes quiet?
>Van Graffs are working with shady character to attack the NCR?
>the list goes on, The Legion is either directly behind or actively supporting literally EVERY single leaky pipe in the mojave. It goes beyond the realm of beliveable and realism into pure Gargoyles Xanatos Gambit level master plans.

On the NCR side
>Cant remove giant ants from the road
>Cant keep deathclaws out of the quarry
>Cant locate the BoS
>Cant send even one guy to investigate nipton
>Cant take back a prison held by people less equipped then raiders
>Cant manage to get supplies other then water and canned beans at their main base
>Cant work their radio system
>Cant rescue two guys in a cave
>Cant recuse a few men being crucified in a town
>Cant manage to investigate why one of their outposts went dark
>Cant manage to take out a few raider bosses.
>Cant manage to do basic investigation on their monorail

The NCR literally cannot get ANYTHING, literally ANYTHING done on their own.

They make Daffy Duck look successful in upstaging bugs bunny by compare they are so Loony Toons bad.
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>>150786357

Cass. But she does look too much doll-like. I'm gonna see if this mod www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/51887/?
works with my installation.

>>150786383

>The NCR literally cannot get ANYTHING, literally ANYTHING done on their own.

Missed a spot, boy

>NCR literally won the last battle at Hoover Dam
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>>150787019
>NCR literally won the last battle at Hoover Dam
Only because you basically did the whole battle for them.
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>>150787148
The last at the time New Vegas starts, meaning the first battle
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>>150787308
Buit thats before the game begins, I was talking about in-game.

that they won is just another part of the massive disconnecte between what the game says, and what is actually in-game.
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>>150787148

What >>150787308 said.

You think the NCR is incompetent. It isn't. It just isn't ready to defend the Mojave, and if you think being set up from every angle makes you incompetent, well...
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>>150787742
>You think the NCR is incompetent. It isn't
Except, quite literally, the whole point of NV was that it was. Which is why everyone, even the people in it, tell you it is.

The entire point of NV was to show how "war,. war never changed" how all these failed ideas of the pre-war world are failing in the post-war.

And just like the pre-war USA, the NCR is mired by incompetence at all level.
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>>150787623
I don't remember seeing any legion soldiers in the dam when I first started the game. How the fuck is what the game says different from what the game has?
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>>150787623

Not really. They were better prepared 2 years earlier and had the full support of the NCR politicians, commanders and the troops.

Now they have to try to keep the Dam, protect their encampments and try to do all the other shit. 2 years later the campaign has been slowed down and hindered on purpose by their own leaders (not to mention third parties), they are understaffed and the reinforcements they were promised aren't going to arrive at all.
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>>150787623

>Buit thats before the game begins, I was talking about in-game.

Don't move the goalposts.

>that they won is just another part of the massive disconnecte between what the game says, and what is actually in-game.

No. That they won is what eventually leaves them in such a bad position to defend the Mojave. Because now it's not just about taking over a territory, but defending it.

Fuck off, dreamboy.
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>>150788010
>How the fuck is what the game says different from what the game has?
You aren't very good at following conversation are you?

>NCR is incompetent.
>Lists all the ways the fuck up
>BUT THEY WONT LE FIRST BATTLE
>Points out how their ability to win that battle doesn't make sense with the ineptitude shown in-game.
>WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH IT!
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>>150788087
>Don't move the goalposts.
I wasn't. We were, and always have been, talking about how they are in-game.

You are the one who tired moving goalposts by bringing up pre-game shit.

>but defending it.
They were defending it from various threats even before the legion.
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>>150788232
Their ineptitude IS the result of the hoover dam battle. They don't have enough resources to hold the Mojave, let alone protect it. How fucking hard is it to understand this?
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>>150788370

>You are the one who tired moving goalposts by bringing up pre-game shit.

No. An incompetent faction wouldn't be able to win the battle at Hoover Dam.

You give the Legion the Mojave, and see how well does it handle it. The difference between the NCR and the Legion is that Caesar is at the head, and in the Mojave. The NCR literally is hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away from the Mojave.

You see it as incompetence from the NCR. I see it as the Legion using all its arms.
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>>150788803
>You give the Legion the Mojave, and see how well does it handle it.
Given that they tamed Arizona, which according to Raul, was apparently even worse off then the Capital Wasteland, the Legion will probably do better with it.

>The NCR literally is hundreds (if not thousands) of miles away from the Mojave.
Your not very good at geography are you?
The Legion's capital of Flagstaff is 249 miles away from Vegas

The Hub, the NCR's largest trading center, is 207 miles from Las Vegas.

the NCR is closer to the mojave then the Legion is.

Also, THOUSANDS? Really? that would put them on the other end of the COUNTRY.

Dear lord, no wonder this has gone on for so long, you have the mind of a 10 year old.
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Heres another map with all the locations marked
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>>150786383
>Leigon provoking people to attack their enemies
>Leigon provoking people to attack their enemies
>Leigon giving the finger to House
>Leigon want to attempt to kill house by proxy
>Leigon wants to bomb NCR transportation
>Leigon accidentally blows themselves the fuck up
>Leigon uses town to inspire fear in NCR
>Leigon using one of NCRs enemies against them
Ok? They have spies everywhere. They tell you this. They have a title given to Leigonaries that do this shit.
>Held by orders
>Too many would die fighting deathclaws
>Can't find a hole in the middle of a desert
>Held by orders
>Held by orders
>Held by orders
>Held by orders
>Held by orders
>Dangerous raiders (Dog girl is the exception)
>Didn't know about the bomb before hand
Ok
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I'm stuck trying to pursue the legion pathline
Vulpes won't appear outside of the Topps, and I can't start it sort of problems.
I've killed Benny and gotten the chip, but nobody greets me to start the Render unto Caesar quest.
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>>150789694
>Ok? They have spies everywhere
Which is another hilarious aspect of the game
>do all this shit for the NCr
>Get message on the screen
>LEGION SPIES SEE EVERYTHING YOU DO! STOP NOW OR YOU WILL BE MADE ANENEMY OF THE LEGION!
>Ok, so were are these psies so I cant kill them?
>THEY AINT IN THE GAME, ITS JUST THE EXCUSE WE USE TO NOT HAVING TO FIX OUR FUCKTARDED AND BROKEN FACTION SYSTEM OF PSYCHIC NPCS!
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>>150789246

>Your not very good at geography are you?

Forgive me for not being American and using meme measurement units.

One way or another, the point still stands: the Legion has Caesar at the helm in the battlefield, the guy who decides everything. It has a commander, Lanius, that doesn't give two shits about his Legionaires, meaning he is willing to take more chances than the NCR.

The NCR will lose the battle not because it is incompetent, but because it doesn't have the means to win. And if you want any proof, that is it: the NCR has won the war before.

Now you start your endless charade of "the NCR is stoopid, you are talking pre-game events!"
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>>150789694

Lemme add something he previously ignored:

understaffed and without any hopes of troop reinforcements.
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>>150789787
Have you talked to Yes-Man to end Ring-a-Ding-Ding! ?
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>>150789896
>but because it doesn't have the means to win
Except it does have the means to win, as we can see in-game once we sort out all their problems for them.

Your argument is literally disproved by the game itself.
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>>150789942
no
Ring ading ended when I looted Benny's body
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>>150789843

It's this "game mechanics = lore" meme I keep hearing about...
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>>150789843
>A military will use spies to fuck with their enemy and gain intell
>HURR Y DUS TIS HAPPEN? ENSEEYAR IS STUPID.
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>>150790167
Man, you really know how to miss the point don't you?
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>>150790079
Try speaking with him anyway, if that still doesn't cause Vulpes/NCR guy to appear you could just start it through the console.
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>>150789940
Yeah it's fucking ridiculous how spread apart they are. I still like the NCR though.
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>>150790002

>Except it does have the means to win, as we can see in-game once we sort out all their problems for them.

No shit, senpai. Every single faction can win the war once we take care of its issues.

The point is that without our intervention, the Legion will definitely take over the Dam. Using le Courier man to prove your point is stupid because we could literally carry a tribe of dog worshippers into winning Hoover Dam if the writers chose to do so.
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>>150790219
If you wanted to find a spy in Mcarran or the Strip you'd need to kill everyone there.
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>>150790307
>The point is that without our intervention, the Legion will definitely take over the Dam.
thats what I fucking said all the way back here
>>150781645

holy shit kid, just keep making yourself look even more stupid.
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>>150790537
Ur dumb but I won't say why
Kill yourself.
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>>150789843
>>Ok, so were are these psies so I cant kill them?
They wouldn't be very good spies if the NCR or the courier knew about them, now would they?
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>>150790465
Or you could do what any decent game does and actually have forces in-game that are stated to be there

>Fallout 3
>Eden talks about Enclave forces appearing all over the CW
>Enclave actually set up bases across the wasteland, and a number of random encounters and scripted events were they start dropping off troops and carpet bombing others like Talon Company start up.

>Fallout 4
>BoS says they have numerous parties out across the Commonwealth purging muties and looking for the Institute
>One can see the patrols all the time in-game

>New Vegas
>claims spies are everywhere watching you
>no such NPCs exist in-game.

Man, gotta love How Obsidian can't make a game worth shit when the games immediately before and after it managed it
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>>150790537

>holy shit kid, just keep making yourself look even more stupid.

No, you are simply clinically retarded and fail to understand what "incompetent" means, or your definition of "incompetent" isn't coming across correctly, because right now, it feels like you are saying "the NCR is moronic".
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>>150790465
>If I don't see em, they don't exist
what's the point of the spies if a random nobody can find out who they are?

>>150790304
Yeah, I know. The faction isn't inherently incompetent, it's being held back by a corrupt leadership and a plethora of third parties actively working against them.
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This retarded new vegas rant is still going? holy shit, c'mon people stop being so fucking autistic.
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>>150790923
>Fallout 4
>Glory claims she saw your performance when you followed the freedom trail
>She does not spawn at all during the freedom trail

HURRRRRR DURRRRRRR LOOK AT ME IM SO RETARDED
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>>150790923

>Man, gotta love How Obsidian can't make a game worth shit when the games immediately before and after it managed it

Confirmed Betheshill.

Thank God I thought we were having a neutral discussion about New Vegas.

>Enclave actually set up bases across the wasteland, and a number of random encounters and scripted events were they start dropping off troops and carpet bombing others like Talon Company start up.

>19-year old still beats them
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>>150791280
oops, meant to quote >>150790923
instead of >>150790465
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>>150790923
Enclave forces that have no reason to be in those irrelevant positions
>Talon company
Yet they never bomb BoS or Any of the other towns
>BoS
Why. What purpose does it serve them to exterminate them? They don't have any technology and they already studied what supermutants were so why?
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>add sex and pregnancy mod
>start new game
>put 10 skill points into Luck
>put 10 more into Charisma
>put your spare points into endurance
>ignore main quest
>knock up every woman in the wasteland
>kill all men
>makes the world vault 69
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The autist who started /ifog/ is now claiming we kicked him out of /cfog/.
What the fucking hell is going on.
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>>150791460
>What purpose does it serve them to exterminate them?
>what purpose does it serve to eliminate the only faction in the wasteland that has technology even remotely approaching yours, and has deep ties to the project you are attempting to take over!

Dear god, you took idiocy to a whole new level.
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>>150791315

Agree. I won't even bother replying to a man so blind to the facts.

True to Caesar.
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>>150791619
I was talking about the mutants you fucking idiot
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>>150791615

KEK wtf??

Why does that shit even have replies? should've been dead hours ago.
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>>150791581
Nice
>>150791691
Where are his eyebrows?
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>>150791751
>Why exterminate a force of overly hostile super humans that try at every possible chance to attack anyone and anything that isn't them, who raid cities in attempts to kidnap people to forcibly dip into more of their own, or to eat as food, and who refuse any and all attempts at peaceful dialog.

Is this a trick question?
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>>150791691

Man, FCO is so shitty.
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>>150791758
He said it over on /fog/. Autist thinks since we're posting about New Vegas more, absolutely no FO1/FO2 discussion can be had here.

Don't forget that this isn't Classic Fallout General for no reason.
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>>150791958
Maybe on the west coast. On the east coast they're retarded and shouldn't be a problem for the tank like power armor.
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Should I just shoot him for his bottle caps?
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>>150792081
> On the east coast they're retarded and shouldn't be a problem for the tank like power armor.
This is a meme.

East Coast super mutants are far stronger and hardier then their west coast brothers, due to the V87 strain of FEv imposing constant growth on them.

Also, they show the ability to build defenses, conduct raids, maintain high tech laser weaponry, operate vault equipment, and show some level of a command structure where the oldest ones act as squad leaders to younger ones.

That they have speech difficulties does not make them retarded.
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>>150789942
Ok so just went back through the tops section.
Vulpes did appear, but the dialogue camera zooms in, then releases with no dialogue.
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This place is a cesspool of rotten old fucks and degenerates.

If the Enclave were still here they'd have this wiped clean in a week.
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Man you'd think splitting the generals to separate the fanatics on each side would lead to an era of peace but now we just have arguments spread across both of them.
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>>150792553
> you'd think
That was your first mistake anon
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>>150792553
this type of friction between generals is normal. it'll stop or at least reduce eventually.
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>>150792309
Yeah. I think intelligence when they hang bags of flesh around for no reason and scream DIE! They show about as much intelligence as a tribal or raider. That's still not very smart.
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>>150792885
>Yeah. I think intelligence when they hang bags of flesh around for no reason
Food and intimidation.

Just like raider do with corpses.
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>>150792320

I had that happen to me, it was a mod, but I don't remember which one.
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>>150790923
Aren't spies supposed to not be noticed and to blend in the ranks of an enemy faction without anyone knowing who they actually are? If you just approached a random ncr trooper or engineer and it said "legion spy" it would kind of defeat the purpose don't you think?. Also the events you mentioned happening in the other games don't really compare to the example you gave to new vegas. A more related thing would be how the npc's say that the veteran rangers are coming from baja and after a certain point in the story, when the tension for the imminent battle is getting higher you will see a lot of heavy ncr troopers with salvaged power armor and elite rangers everywhere just like the npc's said.
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>>150793278
A good game would let you uncover the spies and kill them so they cant report your actions.
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>>150791892

Dunno.

>>150791973

Joke's on you, I'm using NVR3.
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>>150792553
The autistic fuck who started /ifog/ isn't helping.
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>>150792309

>East Coast super mutants are far stronger and hardier then their west coast brothers, due to the V87 strain of FEv imposing constant growth on them.

So strong a teenager without power armor can kill them easily.

Fuck off, dreamboy.
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>>150793490
which, includes FCO meshes and models.
And that face is one of those.

There is a reason NVR2 is recommended over that.
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>>150793612
>So strong a teenager without power armor can kill them easily.
you mean likw hot the battle harded NCr troops are so strong a mailman that could be of equal age can kill them with equal ease?

gameplay =/= lore
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>>150793028
>Food
You'd think if they were that desperate they'd cannibalize each other.
Why are there so many supermutants anyway?
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>>150793106
dammit
And I was so wanting to actually have a playthrough.
Too scared to try altering my load order, took several weeks chasing down all the red boxes.
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>>150793734
In NV you have the option to roleplay as who ever you want as long as it fits into the story. That means you can roleplay as a killing machine if you want. In 3 you'll always be the nineteen year old son of Liam nesson.
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>>150793961

Pastebin me your mods, it might jog my memory.
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>>150793851
>Why are there so many supermutants anyway?
They have been kidnapping people and gassing them with FEV for 200 years.

The bombs fell in 2077, and the first super mutants appeared in the wasteland in 2078

>You'd think if they were that desperate they'd cannibalize each other.
I doubt they find themselves tasty.
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>>150794150
>Kidnapping humans
Why? And why use their food source like that?
>I doubt they'd find themselves very tasty
Anything will taste good when your hungry enough.
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>>150794317
>Why?
To make more of themselves. V87 super mutants are instinctively drawn to make more of themselves.

http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Vault_87_super_mutant#cite_note-FO3OGGGYE-1

>"The Super Mutants that infest the urban ruin of Washington D.C. originated in Vault 87. Those unlucky enough to have reserved space in Vault 87 soon found themselves forcefully taken to a secure part of the vault, where they were locked in airtight chambers and exposed to a concentrated form of the F.E.V. The Overseer and his security force had no real idea what to expect; they were simply following the "plan." When the exposed vault dwellers started transforming into Super Mutants, nearly the entire vault population had been exposed. Those who hadn't yet metamorphosed knew what was coming, and, well...it didn't end well for humanity.
>The dwellers of Vault 87 were turned into Super Mutants in 2078, and have been a presence in the Capital Wasteland ever since. Most of those original Super Mutants have long since been killed. But whether it's because of the nature of the F.E.V. they were exposed to, or a simple underlying human instinct, the Super Mutants of the Capital Wasteland are obsessed with the preservation of their own species. Super Mutants are asexual and incapable of procreation, so their only way of reproducing is to kidnap other humans, drag them back to the Vault 87 chambers, and infect them with F.E.V. And so they have done, for nearly 200 years.
>Super Mutant society is loosely hierarchical, with the weaker (most recently transformed) Super Mutants generally giving way to the stronger. The Super Mutant hierarchy, as defined by the Capital Wasteland contingent of the Brotherhood of Steel, is as follows: Grunt, Brute, Master, and Behemoth. Generally speaking, the Super Mutants of the Capital Wasteland get bigger, stronger, and dumber as they age. The Behemoths are so strong and savage that they’re the only thing feared by the other Super Mutants."
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>>150793482
>A good game would let you
That's a really subjective thing to say, you really have any way or reason to uncover allll the legion spies. Besides if you're working for the ncr why do you care about becoming an enemy of the legion. Why do you have to be a quadruple agent working for every single opposed faction? It's pretty silly to be honest.
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>>150794646
*you don't really.
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>>150794114
http://pastebin.com/XqAte3j6
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>>150792287
yes
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>>150794978

can't see anything that would modify his behavior, besides YUP, and I highly doubt that was it.

But it seems it can happen even without mods interfering with him:

>There's a glitch which can prevent you from being able to speak with Vulpes, even when he triggers the conversation. The camera will zoom in on him like it would usually do when initiating conversation, but will then quickly retract, bringing the player back into control. Reloading to a recent save doesn't seem to fix the issue. A possible fix is to reload to a save before confronting Benny, then walking out of the casino before talking to Yes Man, this has been observed to work in several cases. This may be caused by obtaining a large amount of legion infamy.
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>>150794646
>why do you care about becoming an enemy of the legion.
I don't, I simply hate it when games try to tell me I can't do something for no other reason then the devs are too lazy to do it.

While I never play Fallout 4 by being a quadruple agent, the fact that the game doesn't pretend to have a "SO REAL!" faction system that I can view with my pipboy, and the fact that you only get booted out of factions only for things they logically have a reason to know if you did or not, makes it far less annoying, and far more enjoyable, then NV.
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>>150725601
What does /cfog/ think about DT
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>>150795552
What would be the point? These factions have a bunch of spies that they'd send any way
>Too lazy
Maybe if Bethesda didn't ask them to finish it in a year. Bethesda just didn't give a shit and wanted shekles and wanted to make a game to keep people entertained before Christmas break. They even removed the faction system because "my job is hard" It's just fucking lazy
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>>150795552
At least in NV I don't get brutally massacred by a friendly faction for accidentally taking one of their items.
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>>150734974
>Favorite gun
All-American
>Favorite secondary gun
A Light Shining in Darkness, plus various revolvers.
>Favorite armor
Really don't know how to answer it. A permanent element is patrolman glasses. In the beginning, I usually use lightweight leather armor with some cowboy hat. Desert Ranger armor is probably my most used outfit. I also used to rock Vault Security armor with some bandoliers and shit from mods.
>Favorite companion
Idk, nobody comes to mind. I usually get their quest and then travel alone. Boone I guess?
>Favorite faction
NCR
>Favorite minor faction
BoS remnants? Do they count?
>Favorite DLC
Really like Honest Hearts and Dead Money. All DLC's are pretty nice, really can't put one ahead others.
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>>150795552
>SO REAL!" faction system

Realism isn't the problem, it's just congruence. It doesn't make sense to become the general of the minutemen, and then a paladin of the bos, and then an agent of the railroad and meanwhile be working for the intitute. It's pants on head retarded.

>and the fact that you only get booted out of factions only for things they logically have a reason to know

You literally only get "booted" out of a faction after you're done mass murdering them all at the end of the game. And the game don't really give a choice in that matter. If you side with one faction you WILL have to annihilate all the others, minus the literally invincible minutemen.
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>>150796497
>BoS
They count
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>>150778242
>None of which have any reason to be involved in the war at all.
Confirmed to have not played the game.
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>>150796178
Except taking an item in NV will automatically cause everyone around you to start shooting unless you do it without being seen.

Fallout 4 is like Skyrim where you can take an item, and that items owner will try to walk up to you and take it back, only if you move away from them while trying it will they start shooting.

>>150796034
>Maybe if Bethesda didn't ask them to finish it in a year.
18 months

Also, that isn't an excuse, they knew how much time they had, and thier attempts to slap in as many features as possible, regardless of if they worked or not, onyl sevred to shoot them in the foost.

Most of the reputations were meaningless anyways, and the main faction ones could have easily been done by the less time consuming scripted trigger approach, wich would have not only saved them dev time, but also created less broken situations.
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>>150796563
> It doesn't make sense to become the general of the minutemen, and then a paladin of the bos, and then an agent of the railroad and meanwhile be working for the intitute. It's pants on head retarded.
Except it does becuase
A. The BoS and minutemen don't care about each other.
B. No one knows your in the Railraod except other railroad operatives
C. All the other factions ASK you to infiltrate the Institute for them, so they all expect ou to be pretending to work for them.
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>>150796718
>If they catch you stealing they will attack on sight.
That's bullshit.
>18 months
It was explained to you before that knowing you have little time won't help you if you're on a time limit.
>They shouldn't have put in so much contents! Why do they cares so much about the game their making
Or we could have another Bethesda game where they remove even more features!
Kill yourself.
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>>150796497
Also:
>saw this thread
>got an itch to play it again for nth time
>realize that I'll need to shake the dust off from my modding skills
>literally million things to re-remember and new stuff to explore
>no free time
>lose motivation
>mfw

Every fucking time. I think I'm postponing my new NV playthrough for a few years already. Too lazy and too stupid for all that.
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>>150796905
If they don't care about each other why do they want to kill eachother in the late game?
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>>150797345
>That's bullshit.
Except its not, I can go to the Mojave outpost right now, with idolized NCR rep, take something off the shelves of that girls shop, and have everyone start shooting at me.

>It was explained to you before that knowing you have little time won't help you if you're on a time limit.
It can help you pan for what you need to do.

>Or we could have another Bethesda game where they remove even more features!
Any game with less feautres, but ones that work, is better then a game with more features that don't.

Any functional game is better then a nonfunctional one.
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>>150793734

>gameplay =/= lore

Don't know, man. You seem to believe New Vegas is literally what is shown to you and nothing else.

So I reply just the same: you have the BoS appearing from time to time, but in the end, the 19-year old player can easily kill Super Mutants, leaving me to think why the fuck the BoS has such a hard time fighting them.
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>>150797496
>If they don't care about each other why do they want to kill eachother in the late game?
They don't?

The BoS and Minutemen will only become hostile with each other if you, the leader of the Minutemen, attack the BoS first.

Otherwise you can go through either the entire BoS MQ, or the Minutemen MQ, and never once have them fight each other.
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>>150797503
I stole a battery in front of novac when liked and my reputation with them just went down
>It can help you pan what you need
Why not go the extra mile and give people extra content to play around with. I'd take it over Fo4.
>Defending a game with less features despite being in development longer
How much does Bethesda pay you to shill? unless you do it for free
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>>150797367
I don't think I'd ever have the energy to start over modding after this last time, I had to manually set the file paths for face textures for every single race to get Redesigned 3 to work.
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>>150797572
>leaving me to think why the fuck the BoS has such a hard time fighting them.
Because
-There is like a million super mutants

-The Outcasts took most of the BoS's best men, and a huge number of their PA and weaponry with them, when they defected.

-Most of the wasteland recruits they have been getting killed off like insects since they simply dont have the resources to train them or arm them very well.
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>>150797891
>Actually thinking that making a game you couldn't reasonably finish is something to be proud of.
I love the length obsidian fan will go to defend them when Obsidian themselves have said they have a bad habit of not having realistic goals.

Your entire argument boils down to quantity > quality.
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>>150795685
It needs to coincide with DR to be effective.
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>>150797891
>Why not go the extra mile and give people extra content to play around with.
Because you wont be able to finish it, or make it worthwhile.

Its like Morrowind, Morrowind had a shit ton of weapons and spells, but the devs spent so much time making them all they didn't actually have the time to make them useful.

This "MOAR FOR THE SAKE OF MOAR!" sort of thinking is why every single Obsidian game before south park was a vastly lower rated sequel to someone elses work.
>>
How come the "classic" fallout thread has a spin off like new Vegas in it and not just the numbered games. I mean I understand not having fallout 4(since it's current gen) but I think fallout 3 should be classic since its not only a direct sequel to FO2 unlike new Vegas. But it's also way better and actually cannon.
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>>150798256
>Actually thinking a that making a game you don't give a shit with less content than predecessors for no reason is something to be proud of
I love the lengths bethesda fanboys will go to defend their games

FNV is better in quality and quantity. Atleast the parts that make it memorable and interesting.
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>>150798525
Because this is NMA 2.0
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>>150798602
>Atleast the parts that make it memorable and interesting.
Such as?

The dead world?
The lifeless NPCs who barely move?
The companions who do nothing but splerg life stories and encyclopedia entries at you?
The MQ that gives you no reason to care?
All the broken features and item bloat?
The DLCs full of Avellone's self insert special snowflake character he uses to push his shitty high school philosophy class shit on?

The most memorable think about NV was
>MUH BULLS MUH BEARS!
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>>150798841
The desert has memorable and interesting shit in it
The better companion personalities that aren't the generic quirky truth seeking news girl or big dumb orc
The main quests multiple factions and ways to deal with things
The vast amounts of quests
The weapon variety
The interesting characters and their perspectives
The most memorable thing about fo3 was three dog and the most memorable thing about fo4 was Muh synths plot twists.
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>>150798841
Because fallout 4 doesn't have any of that right? Are you literally a bethesda employee? serious question.
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>>150799451
>The desert has memorable and interesting shit in it
Such as?

>e better companion personalities that aren't the generic quirky truth seeking news girl or big dumb orc
N, instead we get
>MUH PTSD WAR HERO
>MUH IM TOO OLD TO BE USEFUL
>MUH DADDY ISSUES
>MUH GRANDMA TAKE UR MEDS!
etc. etc. cliches played 100% stright.

>The main quests multiple factions and ways to deal with things
All of which played near exactly the same.

>The vast amounts of quests
Most of which went nowhere, and had no effect on anything. Many of them were radiant tier, without the infinite generation part of radiants.

>The weapon variety
Which didn't matter unless you were a dress up fag because so many weapons had such similar stats that they basically played the exact same anyways.

>The interesting characters and their perspectives
Such as? The only NPC who displayed any sort of emotion or personality was Fantastic, and the King, and fantastic was just a dumbass.

>The most memorable thing about fo3 was three dog and the most memorable thing about fo4 was Muh synths plot twists.
And the world, the towns, and most everything else.
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Are there any mods for death animations?
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>>150799926
>displaying emotion now means being a quirky wacky character
jesus christ no wonder you like fallout 4
>>
Daily reminder to not respond to Bethesda shills.
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>>150800537
>displaying emotion now means being a quirky wacky character
No, those were just the only two character who didn't sound like they were just reading a off the script in an unenthused manner.
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>>150798094

>There is like a million super mutants

Doesn't seem to stop the player.

>Most of the wasteland recruits they have been getting killed off like insects since they simply dont have the resources to train them or arm them very well

Again, a 19-year old fresh from the Vault easily takes on the Super Mutants.

Fallout 3 seems like such a shit game.
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>>150800658
the world is an apocalyptic wasteland
most people have little education
people are constantly being kidnapped and killed, or worse


why are you expecting them to sound anything but detached?
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>>150800715
>Again, a 19-year old fresh from the Vault easily takes on the Super Mutants.
And a mailman manages to overpower the armies of the greatest nations in the pst war world

Just like a Vault Dweller frswh fro mthe Vault managed to take down an army of super mutants in Fallout 1.

And a literal tribal managed to take down the power armored pre-war government in Fallout 2

Its almost like every RPG has this trope or something!
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>>150799926
>Everything about new vegas is cliche, lazy and bad.
>Everything in fallout 3 and 4 is good, interesting and original though
What the fuck is your problem?
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>>150801057
>Everything about new vegas is cliche, lazy and bad.
>Everything in fallout 3 and 4 is good, interesting and original though
I never stated either of those things, can you not resort to blatant straw mans?
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>>150800930

>Its almost like every RPG has this trope or something!

You are finally understanding, bethdrone, good!
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>>150799926
>All of which played near exactly the same.
As opposed to FO3/4's skyrim tier quests which are so much better and totally non repetitive, right?
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>>150801585
>As opposed to FO3/4's skyrim tier quests which are so much better and totally non repetitive, right?
No
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>>150799926
>Companions
Cass only mentions her dad twice, Raul is an old bastard that's seen some shit and wants to give up, lily is a giant blue mutant that acts like a grandmother. I'll give you Boone but he's on the same level as Danse in terms of companion personalities in their games and Boone still blows him out of the water

>Main quest
You should play the game before you start shitposting

>Effects nothing
How about the monorail quest?
>Dress up
So do the ones in fallout 4. And what about Uniques?

>Only mr fantastic and the King
>I only like lel whacky characters
>>>/reddit/

>The towns
All six of them
>The world
I love my metro tunnels and cartoony buildings. I'll give you the glowing sea, diamond city, and the left part of the map of 3
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>>150800629

This.

The guy clearly knows New Vegas is better, but wants to shit up the general. So let's ignore him.
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>>150801762
>and Boone still blows him out of the water
I cared far more for Danse then I did Boone YBH.

>You should play the game before you start shitposting
I have, three times through.

>How about the monorail quest?
What about it? Even as an NCR I never used the monorail, no reason too.

>So do the ones in fallout 4.
Except theres only like 1-2 weapons per type in Fallout 4, you dont get them for looks, you get them for what they do.

>And what about Uniques?
A cancer that should be removed from games in general.

>I only like lel whacky characters
Where did you get the misguided idea that I liked either?

>All six of them
And all of them were far more distinct then the ones in NV.

>I love my metro tunnels and cartoony buildings
When were the buildings in any of these games cartoony?

Unless your definition of cartoony is brightly painted?
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>>150800537
>>150801057
>>150801585
>>150801762

Stop it, guys.

Anyhow who says

>Even as an NCR I never used the monorail, no reason too.

is not worth arguing with.
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>>150802359
>is not worth arguing with.
Not him but why? with fast travel it was always easier to just fast travel to the strip
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>>150801146
This >>150799926 stated otherwhise though
>Such as?
I don't the whole region close to jacobstown where there's a lot more green and trees and snow. The fort with it's gloomy atmosphere. New vegas with the neon signs.
>cliches played 100% stright.
So there's no cliches in fallout 4? the noir detective? the quirky obtrusive reporter? the brute orc?
>All of which played near exactly the same
They didn't. It's not the same to save the president than to be the assassin that tries to kill the president.
>Many of them were radiant tier
Fallout 4 has LITERALLY radiant quests. A lot of them actually.
>Which didn't matter unless you were a dress up fag
Why the fuck would someone dislike weapon variety in a open world rpg?
>Such as?
There's some interesting npc's in new vegas such as there is in fallout 4. You're just being a faggot here.
>And the world, the towns, and most everything else.
Because the world and towns are not interesting in nv right? You're just a biased bethesda drone. Even i admit that fallout 4 did some things right.
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>>150802094
>I cared far more for Danse then I did Boone YBH.
Boone is nowhere near as retarded as Danse.
>um I told my field scribe to mercy kill a fellow BoS member in cold blood and then she came crying to me is she ok??
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>all this pointless arguing
It's like you guys never split up from /fog/.
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>>150802094
>I cared more about Danse than Boone
I don't care
>I did three times
Than you'd know the different factions have different endings
>1-2 per type
Yes. Even less content. That's just swell anon.
>Cancer that should be removed
Yes legendaries and DayZ crafting shit is fine though.
>I didn't say I like them
So they have to be extremely flamboyant and exaggerated for you to think they're good?
>All of them were far more distinct than nv
I'm sure rivet city or some bumfuck town in 4 really left an impression on people
>What buildings were cartoony
The art style of 4 is cartoony.
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>>150802670
/cfog/ has less waifuposting and overall faggotry so it makes it the superior thread for arguing
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>>150802930
But the arguing is ridculously cancerous and does nothing but make us all look like idiots.
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>>150803023
speak for yourself
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>>150802452
>The fort with it's gloomy atmosphere
It had literally the same involvement type as any other generic place in the wasteland.
>I don't the whole region close to jacobstown where there's a lot more green and trees and snow.
Amused by white colored dirt?
> New vegas with the neon signs.
Which didn't really glow.

>So there's no cliches in fallout 4?
OFC there are, i'm not the one saying Fallout 4;s companions are masterfully written things that put everything else in the series to shame though.
>They didn't
They did though
>Get the boomers
>Deal with the BoS
>The President

>Fallout 4 has LITERALLY radiant quests. A lot of them actually.
Yeah, which means it has an infinite number of the kinds of quest NV had as well. Meaning more content.

>Why the fuck would someone dislike weapon variety in a open world rpg?
Becuase in a single player game mechanics matter over looks. This isn't an MMORPG, where all end game items are just ultra rare/expensive versions of otherwise common items that people use to show off. A good SP RPG could be focused on mechanics, not pointless
>MUH SHINEY!

>There's some interesting npc's in new vegas such as there is in fallout 4.
I honest to god can't remember anyone in NEw Vegas Strip itself sans House.

>Because the world and towns are not interesting in nv right?
No, outside of the fact that Goodsprings was the starter town, I honestly can't recall anything that made any city in the southern part of the map unique.

When it comes to Vegas itself, North Vegas, Westside, and Freeside, were so similar they all blur. Only the Strip was really defining, and only Jacobstown and Nellis had anything that set them apart from the rest.

On the other hand, all the major towns in fo3 and NV were visually distinct, and had themes or specialties only they had.

Megaton was a junk city built around a bomb, Rivet city was built inside a decaying aircraft carrier, Underworld was built into a Museum and housed the ghouls, etc.
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>>150803190
>infinite quests means more content

Fuck off, Todd.
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>>150802670
ok fine I'll learn to let go
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With all this bullshit arguing I'm beginning to think that /cfog/ was a bad idea. It doesn't look any different from /fog/ now.
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>>150802094
>A cancer that should be removed from games in general.
You're a cancer that should be removed from the planet, faggot. Enjoy your magical healing fat man that you got from the ass of a "legendary" mosquito.
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>>150803325
>infinite quests means more content
If a quest in NV were the only option is to go into a mine, ill a bunch of Legion soldiers, and untie two guys, counts a content in NV, then a quest where someone gets kidnapped by raiders, you have to go shoot through a bunch of raider, and untie them, is content also.
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>>150803467
I dislike the legneadry system as well.

OFC, none of you here seem to be able to go one post with using straw man

No wonder /v/ kicked you all out
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>>150803491
It's okay when you do that quest once. Doing 9000 more variants of it on the other hand is just pure laziness and not content at all.
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>>150725601
Which factions do you kill every playthrough?
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>>150803634
>Making a system that can generate more quests rather then idiotically making only one of them is being lazy.
It actually takes more effort to make the system then to not.
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>>150803750
When did effort = quality? Having that system only makes the game worse because it gives out the illusion that there is plenty of content to explore.
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>>150803697
none, because i roleplay
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>>150803065
What is that even supposed to mean?
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>>150803934
>Having that system only makes the game worse because it gives out the illusion that there is plenty of content to explore.
>illusion
So its not illusionary when done once, but it is when done more then once?

I love all these mental gymnastics you do to hate on the game
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>>150803987
>make us all look like idiots.
>us
>speak for yourself

>What is that even supposed to mean?
Go figure.
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Are there any mods or overhauls to download that breathe some new life into New Vegas? I've cleared the games a bunch of times now, but I haven't really dabbled in mods much. I'd love to take some recommendations though, and try something out.
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>>150804110
kk retard
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>>150803452
I wonder if the mods created this general just to kill off New Vegas posters. At least to silence that autist that was sperging out 24/7 that there was a New Vegas thread on /v/. Speaking of which, is there still a /v/ thread? Holy fuck is this general shitty.
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>>150804083
Are you even reading my posts? A system that rehashes the same quests gives the illusion of infinite content. When you have ONE quest and only ONE there's no illusion because there's no content to explore further.
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>>150804418
>because there's no content to explore further.
So its less content then?

> A system that rehashes the same quests gives the illusion of infinite content
How is that illusionary? it IS infinite content, no one said all of it was UNIQUE content.

Again, all these mental gymnastics and bullshit word definitions are hilarious to read.
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How the fuck do people create UV Maps for their meshes in their mods? I try doing it, and the fucking parts never line up where they should. All I want is the Point Lookout carnival food items with food/tops added to them.
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>>150803190
As i said, biased braindead bethesda drooling drone. As a point of comparison, pete hines, the vice president of bethesda, don't put nearly as much dedication to defending his games as you do.
>Yeah, which means it has an infinite number of the kinds of quest NV had as well. Meaning more content.
Fucking sad that you think this way.
>Becuase in a single player game mechanics matter over looks
Wouldn't that be the other way around? I don't care about what weapons kills shit faster in a single player game. I just want to roleplay as a cowboy with a sweet looking repeater rifle.
>Megaton was a junk city built around a bomb, Rivet city was built inside a decaying aircraft carrier
So you like nonsensical things?, k.
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>>150804778
Nobody reply to this bait. Discuss NV instead
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>>150804565
But Infinite quests don't mean infinite content. It's just the same regular content copy pasted to make it look infinite. God, you're retarded. I'm done talking to you.
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Is there any interesting Low INT dialogue for house?
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Tell me why Boone + ED-E isn't a god-tier companion combo

>Even in the pitch black of night without Cateye, you can still snipe Legion fucks & Ghouls from half a mile away

>Pro tip: you can't
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>>150728470
Post ass or feet
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>>150805194
Easy mode. The best combination is Cass and the Courier
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>>150804525
I love the Tesla Coil Cannon thing from the Crashed Vertibird; that plus the Old World Blues DLC is fun as hell.
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>>150805090
>But Infinite quests don't mean infinite content. It's just the same regular content copy pasted to make it look infinite
There is literally no difference.

Never ending content is never ending content, even if its just the same quest in multiple locations
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>>150805386
Don't reply to this bait. Discuss NV instead. Let go
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>>150805386
>Go grab 10 glowing Sunset Sasparilla bottles from Location A

>Go grab 10 glowing Sunset Sasparilla bottles from Location B

>Never ending content is never ending content

What's the point if it's not fun?

>>150805580
Too late
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>>150805360
Is there anyway to repair it without spending a fortune on it?
>>150805639
let go. You'll feel better.
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>>150804778
>So you like nonsensical things?
Actually they do make sense. As stated by Pinkerton, Rivet city was orignally picked becuase it contained and old pre-war science lab the rmenas of the Naval research Institue wanted to use.

Megaton was turned into a cit because the hole in the ground protected people from the windstorms, and kept them out of site from raiders, super mutants, and other things that would attack them. Also the bomb wasn't apparently active or doing anything, so it wasn't much of an issue.

>Wouldn't that be the other way around?
No, because roleplay doesn't mean anything unless the things you have actually chosen about your character actually ACT different from the things other people have chosen.

When they don't, your both playing the same character, regardless of what textures are on your guns.

>Fucking sad that you think this way.
Its sad that I think a quest thats perfectly acceptable for NV can be made to repeat itself, especially when its a logically repeating event?
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>>150805146
Answer my question please
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>>150805639
What do you think it's the point? this guy as literal autism. EVERYONE complains about the radiant shit, even normies. Why do you think that the whole "another settlement needs your help i'll mark it on your map" became a meme?
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>>150805771
Haven't run into that issue, but it's a 2-handed heavy weapon so something similar should do it. I've got mods to let me repair with scrap metal tho, that shit's awesome.
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>>150805871
play and find out mane
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>>150804173
Bump, help me out somebody
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>>150805905
>>150805835
Don't reply.
let go
>>150805949
B-but it's midnight
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>>150805639
>What's the point if it's not fun?
That's the question I have with most of NV's quests, outside of Come Fly with Me, Beyond the Beef, and the one where youg et various whores for that one casino, all of them were rather dull.
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@150805835
Please stop discussing the abominations that are Bethesda's shit with Fallout slapped on

Little Lamplight.

You don't deserve a (You)
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>>150725601
I think for the next general OP should post links to download FO1 and 2 for free since the money goes to Bethesda anyways
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>>150806091
>>150806040
Don't reply
let go
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>>150805997
If you've never done ANY mods, JSawyer Ultimate might be a good place to start.
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What's the best heavy weapon?
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>>150806445
you've you 3 non-heavy weapons there anon
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>>150806446
Hunting rifle scope.
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>>150806540
They all look heavy to me. Which one besides the thumper and grenade launcher?
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>>150806602
That's not what I meant but it'll work
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>>150806031
Don't worry, i won't. I have to go to sleep anyway.
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>>150807057

Sweet dreams,Anon
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>>150806395
Anything else? What are some of the good gun mods? And Armor mods? I know I'm asking to be spoonfed, but I'm new to this
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>>150806446
>tfw you forgot you bought 15,000 surplus 5mm bullets for peanuts
>tfw you've had the minigun and just now realize how to switch ammo types

Condition be damned, this is gonna be fun
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>Plasma and laser pistols use the same ammo
Why
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What are some mods that fix some little autistic details

I'm looking for something like this
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/40329/?
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>>150807538
>Cash register
My sides
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Well it's that time again. Post songs
https://youtu.be/VcLk3fQ3Zwg
Rate me
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>>150808549
Sleep,go to sleep
Just lay down your wary head
Dream,sweetly dream
Dream about tommorow instead
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>>150807413
not in fallout 4
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>>150809923
Sleep,go to sleep
Whispering a lullaby tune
Dream,sweetly dream
Swinging with the man in the moon
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>>150809992
?? Fallout 4 doesn't exist.
The series ceased to exist after New Vegas.
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>>150810228
Why don't you go
Down where the sandman plays
And take it slow
Cause you can doze all day
And don't you know
That when you wake
All your lovely dreams will come true
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>>150808549
I'll give you the best song.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3jxn1sqAQ-c
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>>150810591
So just close your eyes
Listen to a sweet lullaby
Sleep, softly sleep
And let the world go by
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>>150810768
That's good. I wish they kept that in NV.
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NV has the comfiest songs
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>>150778242
>and yet the BoS in Fallout 4 manages to plow down hordes of everything on thier own
And yet the entire BoS can be slaughtered by a housewife
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>>150803452
One autist is shitting up a storm. It will hopefully go away when assdamaged /fog/ posters stop coming by to have a conniption.
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>>150811987
>forces you to roleplay
>forces you to roleplay as the least immersive, most retarded thing possible
Thanks, Fallout 4.
I couldn't possibly be forced to roleplay as someone who is atleast cool like Geralt, right?
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>>150811987
let go
>>150812154
It looks like things are back on track now.
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>>150812281
let go
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Things are quieter now. Let's try and keep it that way.

>>150810995
I believe the song can play in FNV at the Wrecked Highwayman
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>>150811896
Correction: NV has the comfiest songs because it reuses a lot of amazing FO1/FO2 songs.
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>>150812598
Then it has the comfiest songs+New comfy songs
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>666 replies
Spoopy
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>>150811896
>>150812598
>>150812682
A few examples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2VTulxEDig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7xfM1FeKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPa1i96ZvHE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPArO-OI_3U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKPCLNscnug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btcs_GmF3Tk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP7jZeaqKSo
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>>150810995
>>150812503

Try this,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOjvrPLw9Ws

First time going to vault city it was a surreal experience.
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>>150813896
>Using the radio
>Not listening to that amazing ambient music
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>>150814279
God damn I love FO1/FO2's soundtrack. I'm glad it got reused.
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>>150814279
Vault City has such a unique atmosphere because of this. It's so clean and safe yet so uncomfortable.
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Are there any mods that add fast food items to the world, like burgers and fries? You know there so full of preservatives and salt they'd last forever, and the Fallout world seems lacking in artery clogging items.
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>>150815149

...Is there even a twinkie in Fallout?
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>>150816225
No I don't think so.
It's pretty frustrating too, because the closest I can get to something like a burger is the Point Lookout burger box.
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>>150754079
I solved it, I just broke in like I was did all macnamara's shit and I had to follow him back to his room like normal and she triggered in the hallway just before his office.

So all's good there.

Anyways anyone have some quest mod recommendations for NV? Doesn't have to be super complex just something fun.
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>>150818784
I think everyone is asleep right now.
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>>150818784
NV Bounties 1 and 2, but haven't played 3 so I can't rightfully recommend that.
You could also get the companion mod "Russel" which is made by the bloke who made NV Bounties, Russel has his own questline with new areas when you're getting attacked on both sides by feral ghouls: RUN, they're never ending and even has unique dialogue for Bounties 2.
His questline was designed to be played in between 1 and 2, just so you know.
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>>150819340
Yep. Middle of the night in Burgerland.
Real nigga hours
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>>150813896
>all those links for Big Iron and Johnny Guitar

lel
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Lads what the fuck. I downloaded realistic damages (whatever that mod is called), and it absolutely fails to take info comparison those "New Vegas" moments. For example, while playing on hardcore w/ project Nevada, I don't think it's realistically possible to not get killed by the robots at the climax of Vault 11. in a scenario such as this, is it acceptable to use god mode or console commands?
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>>150822308
Fuck oath it is, provided you didn't just run in there at level 4 or have otherwise fucked yourself up through idiocy.
In that case, reload an old save, you died.
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>>150822308
Acceptable by who? God won't come down and murder you if you use console commands.
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Man this general turned to shit quickly. Why don't we just go back to /v/ to the New Vegas Threads
What should I pack for the Lonesome Road for the first time?
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>>150822559
Mods decided it so I doubt they will accept it again. It's not like /v/ NV threads never went to shit. If only NVfags could just stop fucking replying to shitposters it would be OK.
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>>150822559
What difficulty/which mods?

Also, House or Legion this playthrough? I'm proper torn
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>>150823264
Play Legion Vexillarius. I'm doing that now, and it's honestly one of the most fun playthroughs that I've done.
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>>150823264
Normal, hardcore mode with mostly just Project Nevada with some bug fixing mods
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>>150819340
Probably.

>>150819536
I was looking into bounties I'll try them out.
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>>150806446
>no AK12
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>>150826905
The AK is an evolution of the 47-74 format, it doesn't share the same basic internals so it shouldn't be there, just like the AEK971 or AN94 shouldn't be there.
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Texas Red had not cleared leather
'fore a bullet fairly ripped
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>>150829306
wat
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>>150829967
It's Hadrian, king of the Zing!
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What's the nicest NV can possibly look at this point in time?

I want to go back but i remember how fucking ugly everything is to look at. Everyone looks like they are made of pudding and have jaundice.
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>>150829967
the more I think about you, the worse you seem
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>>150830165
Well it comes down to personal preference but I use Nevada ENB with western skies.
And Zion just looks naturally good.
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mod that ports fo4's power armour into NV?
I know theres one that mimics the mechanics of the frame but where is the one that ports the whole new skeleton and fancy bulkiness?
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>>150830348
Oh, I see
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>>150830574

Been looking for a bulkier/bigger PA myself. Don't care about the exoskeleton or mechanics tho.
There is a mod that makes em bulkier on the nexus, but it's a bit lacking, imo.
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Ambassador Crocker for president
Colonel Hsu for General

Make the NCR friendly again
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>>150830165
Depends on how many mods you wanna use.

>>150736262
>>150749467
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Smile!
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A tribe called Enseeyar
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>>150831623
>tfw you can't keep him as a companion after you leave Zion and show him the outside world
>tfw no dialogue lines for every iconic place in Vegas
>tfw no dialogue lines on the NCR and Legion
>tfw no dialogue lines on the critters of the Mojave
>tfw no dialogue lines on supermutants and robots

Honestly the worst part about Honest Hearts.
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>>150829967
Fuck off assbreath, you've already heard my spiel. You really gotta see Hadrian
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>first thread spends half the time on page 10
>second is filled with more shit flinging than peak /fog/

I wonder how the next will go
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Thank God the shill is gone.

Reminder you can't argue with retards. They will drag you down to their level, and beat you with level scaling.
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>>150831290

What texture pack?

>>150831804

>tfw multiple companions in Nexus
>tfw they are all the same unimaginative shit, just with more or less blasphemies
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>>150807413

Why shouldn't they?
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Anybody know if there is a patch for FCO 3 to include the DLCs? Just got into Honest Hearts and it's like walking into an ugly convention.
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Guys, how do I start modding Nv? I want to go from vanilla slowly forward. I bought the base game + dlc pack from steam like a year ago and have only ever played without mods.
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>>150836180
Read the pastebin, it's got all the basic info you really need.
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>>150836180

Best advice: add only the things you really need, .esp wise.

Know that a lot of meaningless .esps can be merged.

I went from 141 plugins to 95 by removing mods I didn't like, and merging others.
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>>150835358
Textures are better normals 1.7 with Recreational Project NV. First one is not on the nexus, but google will give you it, second is on the nexus.
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shouldn't this shit be in /fog/
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>>150837326

Many thanks. The mod is Detailed Normals, by the way, just found it on a French site.
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Currently working on a pair of mods, just fishing for replies and feedback

>RNV Reporters
Adds Radio New Vegas reporter NPCs after completing certain quest criteria, to correlate with the broadcasts made by Mr.New Vegas.
So for example, after completing "Ghost Town Gunfight", a reporter will spawn in Goodsprings and will begin to "interview" Easy Pete.

>Where'd ya go?
I hate in games where once an NPC stops serving their purpose for a quest, rather than stay put, the developers decide to remove said NPC from the game. This mod removes this feature, adding some new locations and new quests for previously disabled NPCs.
For example, after recruiting a sheriff from Primm, going back to the Vicky and Vance will trigger a group of NCR deserters. In game, you exchange dialogue (or gunfire) and then they vanish from the game. In the mod, they retreat to the unused railroad building near the NCRCF, where they will offer some quests, such as convincing them to reenlist after you retrieve their discarded dog tags.
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Don't see too many of these out west.
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>>150838961
Are you planning on doing voice acting for both of those mods? Please don't. All but the best-tier voice-acting is absolutely cringe-inducing.

For the only good examples I've seen, see
-August Leaves
-Someguy Quests
-Delilah (Only alternative voice mod)
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>>150838961

>Adds Radio New Vegas reporter NPCs after completing certain quest criteria, to correlate with the broadcasts made by Mr.New Vegas.
So for example, after completing "Ghost Town Gunfight", a reporter will spawn in Goodsprings and will begin to "interview" Easy Pete.

If this was Fallout 1 or 2, I'd tell you you are a genius. Given this is New Vegas, I don't suggest you do it, unless you can manage to give Easy Pete extra dialogue lines or something. Same problem with your second mod. Echoing the words of Bethesdrone anon from yesterday, why don't you make a mod that makes NPCs more lively? Have them go into stores, eat, drink, and so on. Would be pretty cool.

Fuck, I wish we could go back to the good old days of mute characters, so much potential for modders there.
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Dat wet leathery butt.

>>150839578

>best-tier
>Someguy Quests

The voice acting is pretty crap. Joe Sellers in The Inheritance was cringe-inducing, he waited like 4 seconds between lines, and he didn't come out as "dying", but "uninspiring".

Same with Bradley, the microphone was good but the voice was shit, no delivery at all.

And let's not forget that voice acting is not just about microphones, but right voice, right delivery, and good writing.
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>>150839578
No and for two reasons.
I'm English so I'm not being "that guy" who tries to do an American accent. Plus, the NPCs who are being changed have existing voice acting, so it would sound weird unless I redub the whole voice, which isn't happening.
I'd add Bison Steve Casino to the list of good voice acting.

>>150839679
I have no idea why most NPCs don't have schedules anymore, when I'm pretty sure it exists in the GECK for you to make it so. It's more a case of "hey what was said on the radio I can actually see!". Makes the world seem more alive and consistent, even if they aren't going to be doing much.

Biggest issue for NPCs for me is that now the dialogue is VERY minimalistic. You can't exchange great reels of information because it wouldn't all fit on the screen nor would it fit with the voice actors pacing. That and people are too impatient now to sit through dialogue in an RPG, hence why they have "4" options in Fallout 4.
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>>150840115
You're right enough. I guess I am just way easier on people with proper microphones, because 80% of mod-voices are people talking into webcam mics from across a dining room.
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This shit si LITERALLY impossible to use, everytime there is something that goes wrong.
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>>150840415

No worries. I'm just pissed I had to uninstall all his mods mid-playthrough and have the save tainted with missing doors and stuff.

At least right now I'm doing a better job at patching my entire installation than I did last time, plus I know very well which mods I'm using.
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>>150840858

The problem is that the mod conflicts with a lot of mods.

- Enhanced Camera (3rd person arms in 1st person option)
- Weapon Animation Replacers
- Weapons of the New Millenia (since it uses WAR)

And I vastly prefer those three mods, all compatible with each other, over a single mod that breaks everything else.
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>>150841163
I use hitmans animations with enchanced camera and have had no problem with it.
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God bless you random wastelander, and your huge balls.
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>>150841163
>>150841241
Just disable the "Enables experimental third person arms when in first person" option and your be fine.

For me it broke a lot of millenial meshes, some reloads and it didnt even change the reloads on some guns for some reason.
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Why are plasma weapons so shit
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http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61026/?
I wish this were a bit more functional and compatible
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what do
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http://wiki.step-project.com/User:EssArrBee/FalloutNewVegas
Good, functional modding guide if you have time to go through it all
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>>150842414

MirĂ¡ que distintos somos.
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>>150842115
That's what I followed, for the most part. There are some mods I just skipped because they seemed pointless and others that I replaced with other mods that do the same thing, but they go in-depth with everything.
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>>150842795
Yeah, there's some stuff I don't use, but the merging instructions, and in particular the FNVEdit changes that it recommends, are useful
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>>150842897
Oh yeah, I'm a fucking idiot when it comes to FNVEdit and Wrye Bash. STEP saved me a lot of headaches/chimpouts.
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>>150843009
I'm following it right now, second time I've done it I think

The biggest changes I'm going to make are:
1. instead of optimizing the textures myself, I'm just going to download the optimized textures from Nexus
2. no alternate start
3. no Willow
4. maybe some other companion to replace her
5. ENB
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>>150814442
I agree

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfK3s73ObjY
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Goddamn, just made a radio station with this album and suddenly New Vegas became my favorite game of all time.
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>>150843248

What is the optimization for? Reducing the texture resolution, or just deleting unnecessary alpha layers from the textures?
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preparing a new thread

>>150844087
yeah, from what i understand, a lot of the textures aren't optimized properly, so just running them all through ddsopt helps even if you don't change the resolution at all
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>>150844174
but it's 4 posts early
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thread is ready when we reach 750
i changed a few things in the OP, mostly just some grammar and consistency changes
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>>150844495
>>150844495
NEW
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>>150844495
That sounds ominous.
>>150844597
NEW! NEW! NEW MODEL!
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>>150844652
>>150844652
>>150844652
>>150844652
new
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>>150844495
THREAD
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Why is the NCR, the most boring vanilla faction in FNV, most player's favorite?
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>>150844731
Most content. Because it's an RPG, and they're comparable to real-world government, they are also the most practical faction for moralfags, because you can personally fix all of their problems.
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>>150795391
So I tried several times to see what happens, fort chases, sleeping, murder spree, suite.

Bupkiss.

As for mods, I have isolated it down to fook or one of its daughter patches.

>Oh fucking ass rape me with cass's shotgun and pull the trigger tier problem

This breaks most of my load order, resulting in the only to do legion, pending not speaking with caesar as well, would be to do a vanilla game to the strip, then redo my entire game thus far with all the missions.

So, pointlessly stupid and frustrating barring their being an fosave/nvse save program I can copy data with.
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Hey, /cfog/. Let's talk about some FO1/FO2.
What's your favorite gun in either if the original games? My favorite is the Combat Shotgun.
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>>150848380
turbo
plasma
rifle
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>>150841967
Ally with them and get the uterus eater mod to become a true legionary.
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