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wat do

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>Kill the entire Dwarf army, minus Mr. Slayer King
>He is "confident"
>I kite him around the map for 35 minutes until my goblins are out of ammo
>Despite being a dwarf, he is very slightly faster than my army
>Is able to slowly catch up and when he reaches me, he routs my army with one attack

I'm Reeing right now, m8s.

>>150462967
free xp/loot

>>150462967
Farm revolts for xp

>>150462967
Let them fight

As Orkz, is it better for me to focus on going south, to fight the other ork tribes, or to go north and fight the dwarves?

Both of them hate me, so I feel sandwiched between them.

How should I be building my Vampire Cunt armies?

Specifically against Chaos.

>>150463354
>vampire counts unironically fighting chaos

>>150463837
You literally have to to win.

>>150463903
>falling for the winning is worth it meme

>>150464000
Fuck off, memer.

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G O B L I N S

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>>150462429
>No Pokemen in TWW

>>150464558
Thank god, we don't need that stupid fanbase in our game.

>>150464302
are you feeling better today anon

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>>150463354
Anything armor piercing or anti large

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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?

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>Laying waste to the manlings in the north
>Vampire Cunts and Bordeleaux start repopulate the wasted south

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BmEGm-mraE

>>150465538
Did seeing G O B L I N S anon remind you to post your shitty Mary Sue?

>>150463301
Dwarves.

Cause fighting dwarves makes orks like you. Fighting orks doesn't make dwarves like you unless you literally slaughter the whole species other then yourself.

Leave defense though cause orks can smell weakness.

>>150465953
t. somebody who has never actually read a book that features Genevieve

I've only missed one thread in the last two months anon.

>>150465351
Recovering nicely thank you.

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>Asrai still not announced

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>Custom battle
>Make 2 ai armys of 40 units
>play as just an artillery and use first person firing
does anyone else do this? It can be lots of fun.
Sometimes you dont even know how the battle around you is going and just trying to kill to keep enemys from overrunning your guns.

Its immersive and fun.

Is there any equivalent of Black Orkz for the Emperor?

I mean in the lore. Is there any mod?

>>150466662
Greatswords

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>>150466514
I feel you, bray. I like to whip up a battle, hit k, and watch that shit unfold.

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Are there any ASOIAF mods for RTW or M2TW?

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>Druchii still not announced

Why do Great Weapons Longbeards lose against goblin spearmen?

Why is this game so shit?

>>150466662
Do you mean stat wise or character wise? Like the superheavy armored fuckers who smash everything up, or the BIGGEST, BLAKKEST ORCS AROUND THE CAMP kinda thing?

>>150466937
>wanting to play this

>>150467046
its not hard to stick a spear in the eye of something that comes up to your knees anon

>Teleport to Fall of Man
>Game crashes

The Dark Gods are not done playing their games.

>>150467218
He said goblin spearmen. Manlet v manlet

>>150467175
>Not wanting to kill and sack the crap out of the hedonistic Tyrell and burn Highgarden to the ground.

>>150467398
It probably wouldn't be too hard to make. You'd just need a new map. The M2 rosters should be sufficient

Have they said anything about Skaven?

>>150467692
no but russian leaks confirmed em for early '17

>>150467334
goblins have the ingenuity to stand on each other's shoulders and perform a double poke, one to the cock and one to the eyes

>>150467879
Do they get a proper campaign or mini-campaign?

>>150467879
Russian leaks are based off of old data, so probably not entirely accurate.

>>150467046
That's what happens when you fight naked

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WITNESS TRUE POWER

>>150467046
>falling for the great weapon meme

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anyone have any experience modding characters?

How hard would it be to modify a bretonnian damsel, but instead of heavens magic give her beast magic and add them to the campaign?

>>150468275
absolutely, they are more than likely changing their schedule around to fuck with us and if they can't make them work they will probably delay or cancel them.

>>150468127
we don't know anything beyond the release schedule for DLC, but the russian leaks had everything they planned out and so far everything has been correct (blood knights & gore dlc, lore of the wild and beastmen dlc)

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>>150468484

>>150466937
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?721-Westeros-Total-War

>get tired of tedious shit I have to manage in my dorf campaign
>fuck off to play Paradox games for a month
>get tired of no visceral connection to my autistic maps
>return to TW

How has the game changed in the past month? I know of the new DLC, but how has the game changed if I haven't bought it?

And are Beastmen fun to play as?

How do I make my Karl Franz to breath fire these modding tools are fucking har

>>150469535

You should read the patch notes in the OP and the ones before it if you are interested in grabbing them. You will need them if you wanna get Beastmen too.

They're super fun to play as. Probably my favorite faction so far. They somehow beat greenskins for outright ass kicking and head stomping. They are pretty easy because some of their units are a bit OP and aren't much of a threat on the campaign map if you aren't playing as them, but they are good.

>was hoping call of the meme men would revive this general
>it's ridiculously dead as frick

suffering

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>Trying to play Orz
>Hard and Very hard are basically the same
>All of the Dwarves confederate within 5 turns
>They never make peace
>The southern Ork tribes never make peace, and never want to confederate, even when I have 10x their power
>Becomes a slog and is really unfun, trying to slowly widdle down the massive Dwarven Empire, who's troop quality is above the orkz

>Normal
>The AI becomes fucking brain dead and doesn't do anything ever, basically just letting you walk all over them

Goddammit. Hard was perfectly fine for the Empire, and I even beat the game as Chaos on Very hard, but playing as the Orkz is super annoying. FUCK YOU DWARVES, STOP CONFEDERATING THEN MARCHING TWO FULL STACKS INTO MY TERRITORIES ON TURN 8

>>150469965
The worst part is that Orkz aren't even that fun to play.

Grimgor, Giants, and Black Orkz are fun to use, but everything else sucks. No good ranged units, their artillery is mediocre, their cavalry is mediocre. Every battle is making a line of guys, reinforcing certain parts, and flanking with a couple of dudes.

Having to get to turn 40 to have late game units for your faction to be fun is no good.

>>150469965
you need to take the 2 eastern purple dwarf towns asap and immediately hit karaz-a-karak with a waagh by turn 8. dwarfs will be dead by then since they usually don't go after bloody spearz if you go straight north which gives you more confed options and removes any dwarf confeds.

>>150469591
It wouldn't work with any of his animations, but you could create a new missile weapon in missile_weapons, a new projectile in projectiles, and a new explosion in projectile_explosions. Set the projectile model to fireball or whatever's closest, and make the explosion do ignition damage. Make sure you set the explosion in the projectile's explosion column, and in missile_weapons, set your projectile as your weapon's ammo. In land_units, find Franz (there are a few instances of him, one on foot and one for each mount) and add your weapon under primary_missile_weapon. Export your tables and compile them (I guess?) with BOB. KF would now be able to shoot explosive fiery balls, but it'll look like shit because his model doesn't have a ranged attack animation. (I found this out when I was trying to make handgunner slayers)

There are mods that give all magic lores to Empire LLs and lords, that might be a better option.

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>when you beat off 4 full orc stacks without moving because the map you're in lets you deploy in a cozy little corner
These Dwarven artillery buffs are great

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>>150470776
Quarrelers are great, huh, anon?

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>>150470776
>when you beat off 4 full orc stacks

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>>150470964
Quarrelers only exist to beat back enemy archers. The real MVP are cannons and organ guns.

>>150471036
Fuck off, stupid frog poster. Pic related.

>spending 3 hours restarting over and over to get good starting lord attributes

bad game design desu

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It's only turn 50 and somehow Zhufbar have took the entire World's Edge mountains, Barak Varr is still around and kicking ass while Karak Azul are retaking settlements and the beastmen are nowhere to be seen. I also see Black Venom on the left, who usually die by turn 5.

Did I step into Bizarro Old World or something?

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I want vampire chan to give me a kiss on the cheek and smack my butt!

>>150471201
>Being this autistic

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>>150471179
I wasn't doubting you, I just enjoyed your choice of words. Well done, Anon.

>>150471201
>having autism

bad human design desu

>>150471437
There's nothing wrong with beating off dudes.

Go away you stupid sexy frogposter.

>>150471331
need every edge i can get to not get crushed by 3 waaaghs simultaneously at round 12

What should I level on a wight king?
I got him his horse, but seeing as he's already hard to kill and does well I don't know if the yellow path is any good

Just picked up fall of the samuai, what am i in for lads? Shogun is so far only total war i have not played.

>>150471748
Just build a bunch of quarellers and run a deficit for a while

If you're playing greenskins, just abandon the bad lands for Mount Gunbad and Zhufbar

>>150471303
i want to kiss her on the butt and smack her cheek.

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>>150463161

One wrong put right.

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>>150471303

help me understand what the fuck the dwarfs are saying, /twg/

>click a lord: one rag (???)
>send something to attack: kazakakhi or some shit

there's also something every chaos human says, something like 'SOOOOOOOOOOOOO', what is that?

>>150471303

>those veins on her tits

MUH FUCKIN DIK NIGGA

>>150472451
I've always been a fan of that too.

>In the middle of sieging altdorf as VC
>make non-aggression pact with Wissenland who holds some surrounding territories, they're fighting with dorfs and I don't need their interference
>during the siege, Empire confederates with Wissenland and now has several cities behind me
Fuck off Franz
Maybe I'll be able to pay off the beastmen or something

>>150472305
That just makes her endearingly cute!
>She doesnt know what her fangs are for
>you have to remind her not to show them around in public
>she knocks herself out using her head as a battering ram.
>>150472451
>>150472509
I like them aswell.
>>150471996
same t b h.

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>>150471303
Event art Vampire Chan is better desu.

>>150472814
>those hips
thicc

Do you think Mannfred beats his Vampire waifus whenever they ask when Vlad's coming back?

>>150472949

>WHERE IS KRELL???????

>I-I don't know, H-Heinrich-san...

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>>150472340
http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Khazalid
>Khazukan Kazakit-ha - "Look out! The Dwarfs are on the warpath!"
>Wazzock - Foolish, gullible; someone who has exchanged valuables for something of little worth.

Why don't Irondrakes get any love?

You put them on your flanks and they just completely ass fuck everything with fire.

>>150473364
>Chuf - Piece of old cheese kept under hat in case of emergency
>Ghal Maraz - Skull-Splitter
>Gor - Wild beast
>Konk - Large and bulbous nose; gold which is ruddy in colour

Konk is my new word for kike.

>>150473663
Iron drakes are the best flanking forces for dwarves.

Seeing them shoot flame along the battle line and causing a mass rout is always fun.

>>150473663
I love irondrakes. Flame cannons, on the other hand... now that's a garbage unit.

>>150473772
>>150473930

Speaking of Dwarfs how do i survive early game on hard? Ironhide cracks down hard on me and usually shows up with 2 stacks before i can even get one fully up.

>>150473106
> Kemmler lays waste to an Empire city

"Even Krell would be impressed!"

> a single tear rolls down his cheek

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

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>>150474156

>tfw no big nig skellington to destroy the old world with
>just an angsty manlet sigvald wannabe with a faggy staff and manlet sword

I hope the LL for VC is Krell and not Isabella

>>150465953
G O B L I N S is a way better anon

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>>150474746
>Not using the mod that swaps Mannlet for Abhorash

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>>150473364
>Wanrag - Where
>Wanrak - When (preceding a verb)

>>150471901
Get lots of artillery and laugh as you mash everything

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>>150475007

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>this is what has become of whfb

God, no wonder people are so salty. It's sometimes indistinguishable from 40k. Everything is so generic, too. What the fuck were they thinking when they decided to bank their company on this trash.

It would be fun to have a 40k tw game. They could do something like DoW: Dark Crusade. That was pretty fun.

>>150475346
>You will never fight chaos with Gilles and Abhorash

why live.

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Poor little Brettonians

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Nighties 'ere!

>>150477065
Why is it called age of sigmar? Does it harken back to the time when sigmar unites the tribes of man? If so why is everyone dressed like blood angels space marines?

>>150477407
G O B B O S
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>>150477570
So you know how the Chaos invasion is supposed to herald the End Times? Well, GW decided that it actually happened. But it turns out Sigmar was living with a celestial dragon who revealed to him multiple planes of existence. The men you see are humans who have been taken from the old world and brought into Sigmar's celestial plane and basically turned into Space Marines with genetic enhancements, special "sigmarite" armor and lightning weapons. Also, everything is Latin/Greek now, and not German-ish. Everything now takes place on the planes of existence now that the old world is destroyed, so you have the planes of death, light, beasts, etc. Plus, they simplified the fuck out of the rules. They wanted the Call of Duty audience and lost pretty much everyone with Age of Shitmar. It's a shame, too, since TW:W is probably the last piece of WH Fantasy media we will see.

>>150477682

THEY HAVE WRONGED US

>>150477682
That's a grudgin'

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>>150477938
We have scores to settle!

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>>150477848
How can they fuck up this bad?

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>killing ghosts so hard they make corpses

>>150478247

They gambled and put everything on a new audience at the cost of the old one, if age of Sigmar is a financial success or not is beyond me.

>>150477848
>TW:W is probably the last piece of WH Fantasy media we will see.
At least it's one hell of a way to go

I just saw a horde of Savage Orks show up at the North End of Kislev. Can they show up from the east end of the map? I though it was just the south.

Also, any tips or guides you recommend for playing as Chaos? I feel like I'm not doing so well, and not sure how I should be handling awakening the tribes.

>>150477848
No wonder you people got so upset

>>150478475
There is a clan of savage orcs called the Skull-Takerz or something that spawns around the Empire's starting city but they usually die by turn 10. When I play Chaos I often see them re-emerging and they are indeed usually around Kislev.

First tribe you wanna awaken is the Baersonling tribe but you don't wanna do it in Baersonling's landing - sack this for about 7 turns until your starting lord has Level 3 horde growth. You also might wanna get rid of whatever starting units you have and replace them with marauder units since Chosen are suuuuper expensive.

Another EXTREMELY important thing to do is when you awaken a tribe, declare war on them and defeat their city. This will give you the option to subjugate them, which turns them into your vassal (instead of an ally if you don't subjugate). Being a vassal means they can't declare war on anyone, and the chaos tribes (including your own ones) declare war on each other very often. Vassalizing them prevents this.

You should probably choose your starting legendary lord based on their quest battles for their artifacts as some of them are much harder than others, like Kholek's weapon and Archaon's armor. If that doesn't bother you, go by whichever you think is easiest to unlock - Sigvald requires you to awaken all 4 tribes, Kholek requires a dragon ogre gathering to be built in a horde and Archaon requires 10 post battle sacrifices.

Any fun mods to use for dorfs?

>>150478475
>at
>>150478937


I should also mention the reason you don't awaken the tribe in Baersonling's landing but instead Frozen Jetty is because Kislev will very often venture into Baersonling's landing and constantly raid, sack or raze it and the tribe along with it before they get an army up.

>>150478937
>When I play Chaos I often see them re-emerging and they are indeed usually around Kislev.
Yeah, it's the Skull-Takerz. I was really confused, wondering if they somehow managed to raid all the way up to the north.

I'm guessing the sacking repeatedly is more for the XP than the money since it's less after being sacked, right?

I actually vassalized Baersonling, but then Kislev marched up and wiped them off the map. I guess that's why I should awaken them at the other settlement? Is there any way to encourage vassals/allies to take ruins?

>>150479187
Ah, I figured. Alright, thanks! I'm gonna start another run and see how it goes this time.

>>150477848

>Gorkamorka, the merged Gork and Mork (or is it Mork and Gork?) was found by Sigmar trapped in sapient amber named Drakatoa that had claimed the Realm of Beasts for itself. The two ended up having an arm wrestling match

you can't make this shit up

>>150477065
wow, i always liked 40k better than fantasy but i played warhammer online same as most and i was kind of fond of it.
The real strength it had over 40k was the asthetic style and it looks like they just fucked that all over. While i like me some grimdark spess futures, fantasy had a sort of 'plaguepunk' setting going for it that had a charm you cant get anywhere else.

Im kind of sad.

>>150479482
Did the Orks survive the transition to AoS alright? Or did they fuck them up? Honestly I think you could put Orks in any setting and they'd be pretty hilarious at least.

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I've played two races so far, and neither were really fun.

Dwarves and Orks both have the same problem of the campaign map really sucking for them. They're super linear and generally pretty unfun.

As Dwarves, you're forced into fighting the Orkz for the majority of your campaign. It's mostly not very fun because you have to deal with random Waagh(!) stacks, and constant ork raids. The most annoying bit is trying to wipe out an ork tribe, only to have another raid your provinces which nukes public order and income.

The Orks spend most of their campaign fighting other Orkz, and then Dwarves. They have similar problems with raids from other Orkz, as well as the random Waaghs. Dwarves are frustrating to fight because they tend to confederate, and moving about the mountain (even with the underway ability) is really tedious.

Now, I'd like to emphasize that I'm not saying the races were hard, or the battles are unfun. Quite the contrary. I really enjoy the dwarf units, and Grimgor is a really cool lord (who actually feels like a Legendary Lord).

The problem are purely campaign map related. Too little variety and annoyances. Hopefully, as they add more races, they'll improve the situation in the bottom corner of the map. The Dwarves and Orkz really, really need some love right now. They need another faction or two (and I'm not counting the beastmen, because they only spawn down there later) in the south to fight. Something hostile to both dwarves and orkz.

As an aside, how are Empire/Chaos/VC? Are they more enjoyable to play than the other races?

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>>150479934

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>>150479907
While I dislike it too, the real issue is that Warhammer fantasy was just hemorraghing money, so they decided to do this rather than just can the whole thing.

>>150479934
Orks are now called Orruks, and fill the same niche, just rampaging across the realms, as neither order nor chaos, fucking everything up just because. They also wear what look like 40k space marine terminator armor, for some reason. It looks cool, but just doesn't fit a fantasy aesthetic.

>>150480067
Empire's pretty fun, finished a GC with them, haven't finished with the other two though, but they have pretty varied styles of gameplay.

Honestly, the Dwarves (at least from what I've seen people say) seem to be the least fun, but that might be related to units rather than campaign map stuff like you said.

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>>150480160
Yeah, that armor's definitely a bit different. I also totally forgot they changed the name of everything so it can be trademarked, good lord.

>>150480067
Wait for the first expansion or some more dlc, with Ogre Kingdoms, Chaos Dwarfs and Tomb Kings there will be more than enough for Orcs and Dwarfs to fight, atm there's still some content missing to make the game feel complete

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>>150478980
I recommend getting a unit pack or two. I don't know the names of the ones I use off-hand, but they're good to the lore and fairly well balanced. Then there's one that adds wolf, boar, and griffon cavalry, but the riders don't have arms and their weapons just float there.

>>150480067

Dwarfs and orcs are my least favorite campaigns too because of the monotony of fighting the same enemies. Empire has to deal with Chaos, Humans, maybe Vampires and dwarfs and every now and then some orcs. Same goes for vampires. Plus, their units and tech tree are more interesting than dwarfs & orcs, imo.

Vampires are pretty fun but not having ranged units is an interesting gimmick that I really like. Their foot soldiers are solid and their cavalry is incredible. They have awesome flying units and monsters. The campaign map can be tough as you are disliked by pretty much everyone but you don't start off at war with Chaos unlike everyone else.

Chaos campaign can be played 2 ways - either extremely trivially (conquering the entire northern tribes) or going balls deep into human territory at the start. The 2nd one is super hectic and really tough, but it's way more fun than chasing retarded tribes around the place ad infinitum.

>>150480067
Most factions have that problem right now.

Humans are surrounded by too many humans

Vampires are surrounded by too many vampires

Dwarves and Orks you explained.

They need to add more races, but I am concerned about one thing:

They added in so many neutral factions to make the map still feel full like a normal Total War game. What are they do when they add Skaven, Tomb Kings, Ogres, Elves, and the other races? Is the map going to expand further? There is a point where the map is too fucking big.

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>>150480765
Vampires and Chaos sound fun.

Do you have any tips for Vampires and Chaos you could give me? I've never played a horde faction before (despite having like 100 hours in Attila), and no ranged units sounds really weird for the Vamps, and they have a lot of different systems.

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Show me how much time you've wasted.

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Reminder that I love you guys, wherever you are.

>>150480770
>Vampires are surrounded by too many vampires
I fucking wish. There is a one city perimeter around your starting province as vampires and then that's it. No more vampires to fight, which sucks because they are my favorite army to fight.

>>150480770
From my understanding the expansion are going to be added new areas to the grand campaign map. At the moment they're populating the the current map so heavily because that is where a lot of the action in the setting does take place.

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>>150481190
Mousillon can get going sometimes.

>>150480969
Vampires are a pretty slow faction. You need to consolidate often and wait for things to fall into place.

The vampiric corruption mechanic causes any living army to suffer attrition if it's >50%, and any undead army to suffer attrition if it's <50%. There are also public order penalties if a settlement is too corrupt (non vampire) or not corrupt enough (vampire) - which makes blitzing settlements impossible because you will have rebellions every few turns.

Vampires can raise shitty armies pretty quickly due to the Raise Dead mechanic. You can train an unlimited amount of units in a single turn at the cost of no movement as long as there are units left in the local region's 'death pool', which recharges every now and then, not sure exactly how long. If a large battle has taken place in a region, you can move to it and raise even stronger, higher tier units from it.

Vampires excel in sending shitty units as meat shields and distractions to tie up good enemy units while your good units come in from behind and fuck them up or fight their shittier units. Some of their units inspire terror in enemies which causes them to randomly flee and depletes their leadership pretty quickly, forcing an early rout. Combining some shitty zombie charge followed by some giant flying units from behind can cause insane amounts of losses for the enemy and all you will lose is a unit that you will be able to instantly raise after the battle anyway.

Plus, one of your army lords can be the necromancer, who have ridiculous spells like the Invocation of Nehek that can be overcharged into an AoE heal that will turn the tide in any battle - your units, no matter how shitty, will refuse to die and continually heal until the spell ends.

Finally, avoid Black Coaches. They're fucking garbage.

>>150481408
What I mean is, if they keep making the map bigger, it feels like the problems the empires near the center face (Empire, Dwarves, Orkz) which have the biggest problems won't see any improvements. Just because the add Ogres and Tomb Kangz to the far off reaches won't mean the Orkz won't be fighting Orkz for 50 turns.

>>150480160
>While I dislike it too, the real issue is that Warhammer fantasy was just hemorraghing money, so they decided to do this rather than just can the whole thing.

How exactly do they lose money with such overpriced.. everything?

If they are losing money that way its because a lack of interest in tabletop wargaming, not because anything was wrong with the setting. In fact on the contrary, their new video game strategy with freer distribution of their IP can do nothing but make them money, and has been pretty successful thus far i think. Ive never even thought about getting into the tabletop aspect, but im quite fond of the setting of both 40k and fantasy.

They would have been better off canning the tabletop but leaving the IP intact to license to video game developers than doing what they have done here.

>>150481707
Empire will get Bretonnia when they revamp them in the FreeLC as well as Wood Elves if they snowball hard enough.

>>150481529
Interesting points, thanks a ton anon.

How about units, which should I be aiming for? And what about early game strategies? Any tips?

How the fuck are you supposed to use chariots in this game?

I feel like they just don't do anything.

Wow, Beastmen really are easy mode.

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>>150481776
Well see, the issue with that is that they've never seen themselves as anything but a delux tabletop collection studio. That's also why they overprice their models, they don't care about the wargame, they consider their production of 'collector's models' their first and foremost business, and to them, the issue was that people were not buying the fantasy models, so they shook things up with the setting, to make it like 40K, which is their biggest seller, hence the new bulky armored folks instead of the gothic aesthetic.

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>do now mock me

What did he mean by this? Manny sounds like a school kid that gets bullied.

Do beastmen still get easily wiped out in early game?

>>150482297
*not instead of now of course

>>150482367
Generally yes, but they never stop returning.

>>150482002
Units - crypt horrors ASAP as they are insanely OP and very easy to get. Zombies, skeletons and crypt ghouls as your line infantry until you get grave guard. Grave Guard as your line infantry when you can afford them. Switch to Grave Guard (Great Weapons) when fighting dwarfs or chaos and late game Empire. Black knights are good cavalry but are a pain to unlock and are pretty expensive. Blood Knights are an extreme pain in the ass to unlock but are the best cavalry in the game, by far. Vargheists, varghulfs and terrorgheists are all excellent units and are worth going for once you are comfortable with playing. You wanna avoid fell bats, though. Useless unit.

As for early strategy, do a raise dead immediately. You should be able to get 2 zombies, 1 skeleton and 1 skeleton spearman unit. After that, kill the army right next to you. After that, go straight for the settlement north of your city. While still on turn 1, delete the barracks in your capital and build a gold mine and charnel pit. The reason to delete the barracks is because the middle city already has one, and they only upgrade to tier 3, meaning it's a waste in a capital city. After that, go to the north city again on turn 3. This is usually a big turn, as they AI sometimes builds a garrison building in that city, making the fight way harder than it should be. Plus, the AI may send an army to the middle city to either sack it or recapture it, so don't build anything in it for a bit.

After killing off Templehof (purple vampires) and Schwartzhofen (green vampires), you will wanna chill out for a bit while spreading corruption to neighboring regions to make capturing them easier. While waiting for this, I usually start a war with the blue dwarfs to the south, exterminate them, and then the red dwarfs to the northeast.

I generally prefer picking Heinrich Kemmler as my starting Lord because his units are really cool and Mannfred is extremelyyyyy easy to unlock (capture the 5 vampire towns).

2cygors4gorebulls/wpotswinslol

>>150482541
Wow, thanks bro. I'm going to have to save these in a .txt file or something for tomorrow.

How are siege battles with Vampires? To be honest, in Total War I generally get artillery for siege battles, because I hate using battering rams and siege towers.

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Just rolling for not huns

>>150482280
But those sigmarines look like something right out of captain proton. Is 1950s pulp sci-fi really going to sell better?

It seems like its in direct competition with 40k actually, even though nobody is going to buy that crap.

I always hate when companies dont know what they have and ruin it all because they are morons. This is why copyright is horrible, they honestly dont deserve control of the IP.

>>150482541
Different anon, but from previous advice I've gotten, I was told it's best to appease the dwarfs near you, maybe take out a roaming greenskin horde to get ++ rep with them. Are they not a good buffer against the greenskins so you can go in and kill off the empire and the different human factions?

>>150482002
Not that anon but,
Always pick manfredd, spec for invocation. Take care of your starting varghulf, he can shit on pretty much anything but needs the leadership support til he's higher rank.

You dont have range units so use bats instead. Use them to tie up enemy range units or cavalry, and then send it troops to kill them. Vargheists seem weak because they can get killed pretty fast but can also dish out lots of damage, use them in tandem with bats, have them fly away if you see tougher enemies coming for them.

>>150482076
I think you have to micro them to go thru enemy formations instead of attacking, otherwise they'll get stuck

>>150482687
Siege battles are pretty fun. Obviously, you wanna lead with shielded or meat shield units so your good shit doesn't get destroyed by ranged units. High level walls in cities get better towers, so they will shred you. Since you have no ranged units, that means that everybody (barring flightless monsters and cavalry) will be able to go on the walls, which means you should generally, if you feel the need, build siege towers for each encounter. Flying units are super fun to use in sieges, especially vargheists, as they can just fly over the walls and come in behind when your towers/ladders make it and deal massive damage. If you do the tutorial for Vampires, it starts as a siege and can be a good intro to vampire sieging.

In the most recent patch, CA added a new ability to some units called 'Siege Attackers' which allows the army of that unit to be able to attack walled cities without requiring rams/towers/etc. Mannfred starts with one of those units and most monstrous units come with it.

>>150482868
I haven't done the greenskin thing personally but I prefer to do it anyway as it curbs the actual Dwarf faction quite hard by removing 2 confederation factions and getting your lords a good few levels and a hefty amount of cash. Plus, because of aversion, you will have to deal with them eventually. But you can totally attack the Bloody Spearz orcs who quite often go through your lands and are nearby, getting a bit of +rep with all non greenskins.

>>150482076
>be lowly empire general
>come across norscan raiders
>they have 1 basic lord and 19 chaos chariots
>my entire army of demigryphs, steam tanks, luminarks and greatswords get mowed down before being placed on the battlefield
>such is life against the chariot hordes

>>150483050
Hmm, alright. Something else I tried in my VC campaign was trying to get the two greenskin factions that had vampiric influence to side with me, helping me crush the dwarf factions between us. But then the bloody spears - which were ranked at 2 at the time - suddenly decided to confed with greenskins and I was back to being surrounded by enemies.

>>150482892
and
other anon, is it 50 - 50 between picking mannfred and kimmler? Why exactly should I pick Kimmler over Mannfred? Mannfreds' early game seems really strong.

>>150482868
I'd advise against this, dwarfs are traitorous cunts

Zhufbar has 3 settlements, all of which are near Sylvania, raze them and let corruption build up there for a buffer

Also, if the main dwarf faction confederates with them, you wasted your time and money building diplomacy

And, if you get to be the deciding factor, let the Greenskins take the badlands, removing greenskins is not a victory condition, dwarfs are

>>150483263
I personally pick a lord based on how easy they are to unlock compared to their starting units. Manny's varghulf is extremely throughout the game, but he's really easy to unlock - just conquer all of Eastern and Western Sylvania, whereas Kemmler requires you to build an expensive Tier 4 building, which is generally 40-60 turns into a game, compared to Mannfred's 15-25. It's really up to you and what units you prefer to start with. They're both solid choices, though.

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pfffftthahahahahahahaha

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>>150482776
That's exactly the idea. They don't care that it's just a different look for 40K style units, they specifically changed the style to resemble 40K because, as one insider put it, it was decided that what sold was not the setting, but big, armored dudes who looked shiny. Which is why we now how big, armored chaos dudes, big, armored khorne dudes, and big, armored ork dudes. Flavor is scrapped in favor of what sells the most, and what sells the most is random rule of cool shit that catches a kid's eye on a shelf. In age of Sigmar, many fantasy armies are entirely scrapped, major fantasy factions like brettonia, the empire, tomb kings, etc, were all done away with so that they could just make it about big dudes in bigger armor.

>>150483263
There is very few reasons to pick Kemmler, most of them related to how incredibly easy it's to unlock Mannfred (while Kemmler needs a T4 building)

Also, the starting units, if you are not that fond of Varghulfs

>>150483587
the amount of units I've built in the game would've cost me at least 5000€ in plastic so I'm absolutely ok with 15€ dlcs for a new faction and campaign (although it's not story-driven like they promised)

>>150483587
Still cheaper then buying physical, also the base game itself sets the price of a faction at 15, 12 if you count chaos.

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>>150483587
Well, it's true. From a certain point of view.

>>150483263
I dunno, to me it feels more like a 90 - 10 in manfredd's favor. Manfredd and varghulf can solo entire early game armies while kimmler cant even get mounts. Maybe he has some strat bonuses? I've never rly paid attention to him

>>150483587
I spend more on a single meal every day than the cost of TWW DLC

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>>150483601
One of my biggest gripes with AoS is that they replaced the empire with this, just some giant space city that is ruled by Sigmar personally, and consists of citizens from every race. So long my cool, fantasy Holy Roman Empire.

>>150483965
also, the fiery thing in the center isn't the sun, it's the warhammer fantasy planet's core :^)

>>150483341
>>150483648
>>150483794

Hmm, thanks for the advice. I'm normally not too good at properly building lords, and not good at micro managing spell casters.

For Mannfred, is it best to put most of his points in his combat tree and a few points in campaign? Or should I put more points in to his spells?

>>150483965
>Orbiting city
>Orbiting city, in a fucking comet
This is much worse than expected

>>150484035
I'll tell you one good thing about age of Sigmar. Goblins can consistently hit now

recommend me some twg approved mods

>>150484323
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=689913357&searchtext=

>>150484323
Better camera

>>150484428
>radious

are you serious?

>>150484323
Better loading screens

how do you pronounce /twg/?

>twig master race, twugs need not apply

Are the units added by radious supposed to be literally invincible?

>>150482716
roll

Can I have some unit mods that are twg approved?

>>150484876
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=689913357

here ya go anon

>>150484785
double U = two U's
tuug life

>>150484785
tee doubleyuu gee

Why do some many people call the game "Unfinished"?

>>150485102
because it is objectively true.
they are still working on the game, making dlc and expansions and shit, they aren't finished with it. ergo unfinished. QED

>>150484785
tee-dubya-gee

They should really remove the ability to reinforce from the Forced March stance.
The "march two armies up to the enemy and initiate with the third" bullshit is getting annoying.

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Settra Vs Nagash when. Tomb Kings when

>>150485176
Not having every single race in the Warhammer setting doesn't make the game "Unfinished", Dawn of War only had 4 playable factions and nobody complained that it was unfinished then

>>150484143
Yeah thats ok. as long as you get invocation and zombie dragon mount you can pour points into anything else.

Important thing to note as VC is that your fodders are expendable. It's okay to lose zombies skellies and bats if it means you save your higher tier troops and monsters

>>150485287
By the end of all its expansions dow had like what 8 races? People did complain that dow2 is unfinished because it releasd with 3 races instead of 8

So I am staring a very hard chaos warrior play through and am looking for pointers, there was an anon here last week that said that kislev got a free army if you snjugate baersonlings, is that true, and should i try to yolo it with one army or get an early second one? any help is appreciated

>>150485498
>By the end of all its expansions
Precisely, nobody complained when the Base game was released, you completely missed my point and yet proved it at the same time.
Somehow its DLC/Expansions back then > DLC/Expansions now

>>150484323
The "better shields" mods are nice for variety.

The Mousillon mod is pretty well done if you want some bretonnian undead.

Southern Realms is also good if you want to have Estalia, Tilea and the Border Princes more fleshed out into something.

Better camera and better loading screens are nice too.

Honestly there's not a hell of a lot out. that's game changing. I know there are a few mods they try to make magic more powerful but I've not used any of those yet.

Honestly just shop around and see if there's anything that peaks your interest.

>>150483601
>>150483965
wut
fantasy was killed in favour of not 40k?
Why couldnt they just keep continuing 40k instead.

>>150485635
No anon, i agreed with you. Pls dont hammer my anvil

>>150485740
Yeah. And they do continue 40k, and do interesting stuff with it, they just wanted another model line that could sell as well as 40K, and get rid of the not-selling fantasy line. Their answer was to, lorewise, end fantasy and begin an entirely new setting. In the worst way too, the End Times was essentially a drawn out way of having chaos blow the world up so that they could make it about magical space shenanigans.

>>150468703
Not too hard; just get the Lore change mod for malagor and modify that.

>>150484785
I always think of it as just saying each letter out laud rather than to together as a word.

tee-double you-gee

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>150485620
I don't know about a free army, but subjugating baersonlings makes kislev and other AI ridiculously aggressive and they end up getting razed a lot unless you want to make a second stack and park it near them till they can defend themselves. Some anon claimed it isn't as bad if you awaken them at the northern town and use baersonling landing to just constantly sack for easy levels, but I don't know about that.

I like to sack and raze my way through norsica awakening tribes along the way, then when that is done take an army down to kill brettonia because they aren't too strong yet and taking htem out also gives you a lot of diplomatic bonuses with Moussilan, giving you some friendly territory down south to replenish in.

Why the fug don't shattered troops drop their weapons?

>>150485837
>Pls dont hammer my anvil
Are you going to stop me slut?

>>150485694
thanks

>>150486146
Why the fuck the LLs dont get different weapon models?
Why does Karl start with his hammer?

>>150465578
>I ain't no Elector Count's son starts playing
'wald was hell. Got drafted in summer of 2469, lost my entire platoon down there. They jumped us from the trees, I got locked up in the bamboo cage and they pissed and shat on me. I still have nightmares.

>>150486778
shoulda bullied some ungors, then they would have respected you.

I love warhammer but every fucking fight is a full stack and it's getting on my nerves a little bit.

>>150487214
removing captain-led armies was a mistake. makes no fucking sense.

>>150483601
The problem is 40k big armored dudes are still cooler. Why buy the sigmar ones when they look like generic comic book stuff? And why come out with another product line that is in direct competition with a more popular one that does what you are trying to do better?

It makes no sense for them to do this even if they thought big armored dudes was why 40k sold well

>12 Magic
>Gamble
>Ranald is with you!
>12

Damn trickster gods.

Whats a Good beastie boys comp? Rolling 3 archers, 3 greatweapon centigors, and like 6 minotaurs, two regular 4 great weapons, the rest are great weapon bestigors. This is getting wrecked by that fucking Khorek or whatever he's called.

>>150488051

The more Minotaurs you have the better.
2-3 archers is fine for focus fire on soft targets to make them break easier.

Do you have some Gorebulls? At least 1 with the red attack or armor buff is essential.

>>150488051
Too many centigors

>>150487214
Honestly I've been enjoying that, the problem is for me has been that the AI is always bum fucking it's self around the map with 2 or 3 stacks.

And because you can't fight with more than 40 units per side it turns into a Auto resolve off.

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>>150484323

>>150489078
who approved this?

>>150489408

Most likely Satan himself.

>>150489078
g-got a link?

also any additional units for chaos thats not radious?

>>150471901
Get lots of boats and hiroshima every fortress

>>150473106
>>150474156
>>150474746
>recruit Wight King
>add him to Kemmler's army
>rename him Krell
>profit

>>150477065
That's what happens when you have multi-million company and you don't do market research (you are actually proud of not doing it). GW claims that video games have zero effect on their miniatures sales (but since they don't do market research, they have no evidence for this). Let's be honest, vast majority of 40k "fans" know it only from DoW games.

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>>150489078
HAMMERER IRONBREAKER QUARELLERS (Light Infantry)

>>150482541
>You wanna avoid fell bats, though. Useless unit.
you wot
they melt ranged/artillery units in seconds

>>150490691
BIG BLACK ORC ARCHERS

>>150490507
This always makes me laugh. I'd love to see the sales info and cross check it with each Dawn of War games release.

And you're not wrong on the fan part either, hell most of the people I know who are into 40k got into it because of Dawn of War.

This all is just making me feel sad over Warhammer now...

>>150485892
>And they do continue 40k, and do interesting stuff with it
Aside from Space Yiff going full furfags, 40k fluff is dead in the water

>remove Estalia early as Beastman
>find Skavenblight on the map

Shiiiiiiiet

Why did they stop making faction intro videos? Those were awesome

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Oi fellow gits.

I just smashed all the stunties except karak kardin ans subjugated all the small greenies in the south.

Main stunties faction is dead. should I start killing dead humies now to get to the north?

>>150491393
>faction intro videos
but they're still there for TWW that is

>>150484785
Tee-Wee-Gee

Roast me

>>150491506
literally how i do it, only way to do it

>>150486546
Lazyness, modeling those weapons would take 0.6 Jabbers, stop being so entitled

>>150488051

Cut centigors down to a single unit, make sure you have a Gorebull with the armor buff skill and a Bray Shaman with Devolve, possibly add 2 Cygors.

>>150490507
You are wrong, GW claims that videogames HARM miniature sales :^)

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>playing beastmen grand campaign
>Manage to wipe out Stirland and Talabecland before camping to recruit/build etc
>Empire and Ostland occupy ruins
>captain discovers me
>flee to Kislev
>wipe out Kislev then camp to recuperate
>Ostland occupies all of Kislev in 5 turns.

Why is it so easy for the ai to resettle?

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What was his deal?
Also, do the campaigns of each faction happen sequentially, the reason i ask is because it seems this guys dies halfway through when playing as chaos.
Haven't got beastmen yet, is he there too?

>>150492790

Developers spoiled him during one playthrough accidentally. He's actually an agent of Tzeentch playing every faction against each other

>>150492887
And Tzeentch plays him out too...

>>150492243
That's why you keep a second herd around to kill of the half depleted stacks after settling.

>playing chaos, turn 32, 4 vassals
>next turn
>all but 3 declare independence

I don't understand. Okay, Varg, I understand, they hated my guts, but why the others? They were all at around 100 relations and I'm stronger than all of them put together.

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I just bought rome 2 emps edition, was this a mistake?

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Well, /twg/, what do you choose?

>>150494227
Not really, it's a great game now. Did you get any DLC?

>>150494327
I can't help but laugh whenever I think of Bitchworth's lines.

>RAAAAAVENDILLLL....help me.

>>150494481
His voice is what sells it.

>>150483341
>dwarfs are traitorous cunts
t. gobbo shitposter

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>>150494395
just blood and gore, baktria and seleucids. Any suggestions for what to get on sale or now, anything you would suggest for a first time play through?

So I just bought a new pc and it turns out that KAT was killed while I had no computer. Where do you guys torrent your stuff from now? I want to play this but I can't buy it yet

>>150492887
Will this be "officially" revealed in the Tzeentch campaign?

>>150494941
For first time playthrough, blood is all you need really. Everything else is just extensions to the game for repeat playthroughs. It's a grey area for the unit packs though, they're fairly minor.

My favourite culture pack is the Pirates & Raiders one and for campaign pack it's the Hannibal DLC.

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>>150494968

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>>150494968

I've got bad news for you kiddo

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>>150494968

>>150492887
its pretty obvious though

>>150494327
Every time the dwarf spouted a generic rpg line I laughed my ass off

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>>150494968

>>150478431
But that's wrong, Man O'War hasn't come out yet

http://store.steampowered.com/app/344240/

I don't know if they're still making DLC for Vermintide but that exists too, and apparently Drachenfels is in it

>>150496403

Vermintide is half-dead due to fatshark focusing on the console version and not fixing the pc versions problems, Man o'war does seem promising though.

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>>150494968

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>>150494968

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>>150494941
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lrC2OpyYbk
>I just bought rome 2 and then hear ancient empires is releasing in a couple of months
still hyped though

>>150496727
>all those headbutts
I don't know man, using your head as a weapon doesn't sound clever.

>>150493990
Oh, I figured it out.

Skull-Takerz declares war on Bearsonling, and if I join in, Varg declines. But if I declare war on the previous turn, then Varg and Baersonling decline. And of course, if I decline at all, Baersonling leaves.

What a shitty situation. Anybody know a possible way to avoid the vassals leaving? Try throwing money at skull-takerz?

>>150497184
headbutting when you have a helmet + awareness of the point where your skull is thickest you can use it as a near instant blunt weapon to throw your opponent off balance or stun him as long as you know where he's keeping his weapon, you can then follow up with a pull back/shield smash or an attack.

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>>150494968
Are you fucking serious?

>>150497432
most of the barbarbrs dont have helmets

>The Savage Orcs speak a language consisting entirely of different intonations of the word WAAAGH!.

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>>150497675
>He doesn't speak a language consisting entirely of different intonations of the word WAAAGH!
Get a load of this WAaAAgh boys.

>>150498023
Waaagh wAAAgh, WAAAGH!!!

>>150498482
What in Davy Jones’ locker did ye just bark at me, ye scurvy bilgerat? I’ll have ye know I be the meanest cutthroat on the seven seas, and I’ve led numerous raids on fishing villages, and raped over 300 wenches. I be trained in hit-and-run pillaging and be the deadliest with a pistol of all the captains on the high seas. Ye be nothing to me but another source o’ swag. I’ll have yer guts for garters and keel haul ye like never been done before, hear me true. You think ye can hide behind your newfangled computing device? Think twice on that, scallywag. As we parley I be contacting my secret network o’ pirates across the sea and yer port is being tracked right now so ye better prepare for the typhoon, weevil. The kind o’ monsoon that’ll wipe ye off the map. You’re sharkbait, fool. I can sail anywhere, in any waters, and can kill ye in o’er seven hundred ways, and that be just with me hook and fist. Not only do I be top o’ the line with a cutlass, but I have an entire pirate fleet at my beck and call and I’ll damned sure use it all to wipe yer arse off o’ the world, ye dog. If only ye had had the foresight to know what devilish wrath your jibe was about to incur, ye might have belayed the comment. But ye couldn’t, ye didn’t, and now ye’ll pay the ultimate toll, you buffoon. I’ll shit fury all over ye and ye’ll drown in the depths o’ it. You’re fish food now.

Hello

SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS

>>150499768
Is there anybody in there?

>>150500017
ded gaem
ded series
ded general

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>>150500017

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>>150500358
anyone playing rome 2 here?

When next DLC announced?

You Mork?

>>150500730

Or was it Gork?

>>150487774


The versatility of the w40k universe is an underrated aspect of it. Contributors of books and fluff are drawn in from a more diverse group of authors.

You've got the space marines vs chaos and orks etc. ofc but you also got cyberpunk elements in there, you got hive cities with the judge dredd arbites, you've got ww1-esque imperial guard combat, ww2-esque aerial combat, inquisitor spy novels and naval space engagements which vary in style from star wars to age of sail in space.

>>150500709

ʍoɹɹoɯoʇ

>>150500709
mid August I guess

>have ports in game
>but naval combat won't be a thing until 2017

>>150482280
>never seen themselves as anything but a delux tabletop collection studio
WRONG

They used to be a breakout crew trying to make wargaming more community-based and by the people, for the people. Way, way back, in the 80s and early 90s. But somewhere during the 90s, something inside of GW died and they turned into the soulless machine that they've become nowadays.

You can read a detailed recount of the fall of GW on 1d4chan.org, it's been penned down by true oldfag fa/tg/uys years ago and regularly updated.

>>150500017
just nod if you can hear me

>>150500709
I think Beastmemes were announced on July 15

So probably August 12 with the DLC coming out on August 25

>>150501239
Is there anyone at home?

>>150499768
FUCK OFF

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Hashut want more slaves!!!

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>>150501602
PRAISE HASHUT!

>>150501602
Hashut?
More like WHOshut
LOL

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>>150501662
>>150501602

>>150496403
>>150496572
Man o war looks like mount&blade at sea

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>>150501727
Look who's talking

>>150501602
>>150501662
How would Chaos dwarfes be played tho?

In the BotET mod theyre just a few dwarf elite units with hordes of orcs/gobbos.

>>150501851
WEWUZ

WEWUZ

>>150501889
>a few dwarf elite units with hordes of orcs/gobbos
Sounds about right

>>150501851
>>150501948
WEWUZ DA 6 GORILLION

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>>150496403

>chaos warriors and chaos spawn

>not Norscan raiders
>no Black Ark Corsairs
>no Lothern Sea Guard
>no Bretonnian Freelancers

>>150501851
>>150501948
>>150502046
DELETE THIS

>>150502046
>>150501948
>realizing that nagash holocausted the tomb kings
>tomb kings are actually jews back from the dead, not egyptians

at last I truly see

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>it's a top knotz invasion episode

>>150500497
I'm going to start a new campiagn with rome, I miss it.

>>150502120
>he missed the part where it's an early access game aka buy the beta and fund the development

>>150501970
How the fuck do the chaos dwarfs even control all the gobbos and orcs in battle?

>>150502517

How much does it cost using current Jabberslythe conversion rates?

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Ancient Empires when?

WHEN

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>>150502474
>Top Knotz in charge of making a proper army

>>150503290

>implying that's not legit

Our arrerz will block out da brighty burny thing in da sky

>>150503290
their roster is like 3 units

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Which faction are you always drawn back to when you want to play a new race? Dawi for me. Something about them being mechanically advanced and the stereotypical dwarves is enough to draw me back all the time.
And removing the greenskin shit stain is also great.

>>150501602
>*Random door closing*

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what makes warhammer fanboys so retarded? CA knew they couldnt lose on this one

>>150503742
You forgot the big uns versions.

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>>150481039

>>150504095
Steam is full of retards.

>Steam "reviews"

>>150503734
>their arrers got memed on by the superior Quarrelers instead
REMOVE URKI

>>150502605
It's fully one quarter Jabber.

Quite a steal I believe.

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>>150501889
A few, elite CD units, a shitload of slaves, and the rapest artillery in the game.

Also, K'daai Destroyer.

>>150504336

>Quarrelers

Like that's even an achievement tbqh famalam.

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>>150504095

>>150504095
>CA knew they couldnt lose on this one

Pretty sure CA said the same when they made the slav dlc for the slavic hisfags.

>>150501889
Probably as war machine specialists with expendable tarpit units that have poor leadership.

I guess kind of like the Orcs but with good high tier infantry/range and artillery.

>>150505048
rabid warhammer fanboys that will buy anything related to the franchise outweigh that small cross section of total war/slav history fans, i think

>>150505116
>small

Them and the greeks are fucking everywhere.

>>150505048

I thought they were happy with the result.