/twg/ Total War General

Ranged LL when?

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>>150569519
>Cute Orc Girls
That's going in the book, Umgi.

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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2lCDQ8j9bE

>>150570264
women are inferior to men.

>>150570312
men are inferior to women

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G O B L I N S

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>TW 40K still not announced

So Marienburg was getting butt fucked by multiple Norscan stacks, until my army came in at the last second to purge the chaos filth from the land, saved Marienburg, and now they've confederated with me, thus securing the river Reik under my control.

What should I name my heroic general that saved the day and brought glory to sigmar?

>>150570536
>he didn't conquer marienburg right before turn 10

but why

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Making a video for you guys, lads. It could take at least a week though. Here's a thing I've made earlier though so you know I'm not lying.
https://youtu.be/JWFnCcHsKZw
Unfinished test version is on the way, if you want what I have so far

holy fuck gobboz have to be the best unit in the game

only 300 for 160 solid ifantry and only 300 for 80 wolf riders

insta route everything

the only downside is that it takes a tol on your rig cause there are so many gobboz

>>150570743
>Solid
They run away if you fart in their general direction

>>150570670

because I'm no conqueror, friend. My campaign has been all about bringing together the different empire nations under one banner. also I don't feel like having to keep track of large swathes of land if I don't need to

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>best elves still not announced

>>150570913
Just don't use against brets, then.

>>150570915
>total WAR WARhammer
>i don't like waging war
>i don't like looking after my lands
>still protects his neighbors
>confederates with them anyway

why the fuck are you even playing this game?

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>>150570743

>>150571294

Because I'm enjoying myself, that's why, friend :^)

maybe you should lay off the autism and let people play how they like

>>150570687
Here's what I have so far.
https://youtu.be/piZpR_jw3jQ
Do you guys think I should keep going with it?

how much does the AI benifit from good buildings on legendary? I know the AI cheats like crazy. Is it important to focus on depriving them of special unit-boosting locations/does ensuring my allys have such locations help their respective armies a lot, or do they all just cheat up maximum armys of highly trained units regardless?

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THEY MADE PEACE WITH THE SEPERATISTS, BUT A NEW STACK SPAWNS EACH TURN, WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO

>>150571294

>hurr there's WAR in the title, so you have to be at war with every faction every turn

yeah no, go fuck yourself

>>150571701
>Do you guys think I should keep going with it?
No. The joke was funny once and you've been doing it nonstop since.

>>150571852
This is the first I've even touched the joked Tbh.

>>150571821
KILL THEM
RAISE THEM

>>150572056
I like to imagine the voices belong to two different people and they're arguing about whether they should slaughter their enemies or bring them home and give them food, shelter and a moral upbringing.

>>150571701
Yeah man, let's see what you can do.

>>150571360
Were Steam tank nerfed?

>>150571839
That is exactly how the devs want you to play. Shit diplomacy is a feature designed for you to be in a constant state of war. The this is total war achievement requires that you declare wat on every faction that you meet. That is the way total war is meant to be played.

>Play Dorf
>everyone loves me
>I unite the world into an anti-Chaos NATO
>everyone loves each other
>I defeat Chaos
>everyone instantly declares war on everyone
Stupid fucking Umgis

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Is it even possible to play multiplayer campaigns with randoms? None of my friends play Total War anymore, and it seems it's impossible to join any Warhammer game since one person having even a minor mod makes the game incompatible.

____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________TOORA LOORA LOORA LOO

>>150573178

>the game is meant to only be played in the way I perceive it to be

haha alright friendo, I haven't had any problems in my campaign using my methods thus far. Loads of dosh, lots of allies, decent chunk of land, and holding off chaos invasions like no problem, top tier units.

but hey, we all have our preferences. If you wanna make war with everyone, be my guest, but if you're gonna tell me how I should play the game I bought, you should go hang yourself with barbed wire

>>150573239
I'll play with you my freund

>>150573424
You could've conquered the world by then. If you're earning too much money then you're wasting them by not having another army up. You're playing the game the wrong way. Drink bleach.

>>150573178
>The this is total war achievement requires that you declare wat on every faction that you meet.
That's just one cheevo anon. It doesn't mean the entire game is based around that, otherwise using allies as meatshields against Chaos or Attila wouldn't be so effective.

>>150573460
You got a preferred game? I'm up for anything.

>>150573894
It is the dev's way of saying this is how it's meant to be played. That and the shit diplomacy system.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGA2Baia93o

This fits TWW pretty well when you get tired of hearing the same 3 tracks. Dat menu theme at 59:30. Too bad this was the best part of WAR

>>150573620

the autism is strong with this one.

did daddy touch you somewhere? were you beaten as a child?

its okay to lash out anon, i'm here for you.

i'm sorry the way I play my game bothers you, but if you'd like to cry it out i'll be your rock

>>150574031
confederation is proof that you are supposed to assimilate everyone through diplomacy :^)

>>150574031
>That and the shit diplomacy system.
It's pretty straightforward, and some alliances are effective. Chill out with the autism anon.

>>150574059
https://youtube.com/watch?v=LaJoDAXkSMw

this is pretty good too.

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vampire-chan is a slut and a shit

and so is anyone who likes her

>>150574031

>i'm bad at diplomacy, so it's shit

maybe you shouldn't be such trash at the game? I've gained a lot of land through diplomacy without a drop of blood spilled.

why are you so careless with sigmars children?

>>150574306
fuck you vampire chan a best

in longer fights should i be trying to swap out tired units with fresh ones to let them rest? Telling ranged units to stop firing for a while to catch their breath?

>>150574251
It's never beneficial to have an alliance. You don't get the income their cities generate, get pulled into their wars (a good thing) but get no benefits for fighting them, and worse still if you grab lands far from your borders you have to raze it or suffer border gore. You're basically a cuck.

>>150574616

autism, anon, autism

>>150574616
>not having a buffer against Chaos or Huns
>not having Allies that assist you in your wars and help protect your borders
git gud

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>>150574554
Event art Vampire Chan is better desu.

>>150574616

sorry bub, you're just shit at the game

>>150574720
Yeah it's pretty autistic to care about spilling the blood of soulless pixel soldiers in a war game.

>>150574821
Don't need buffers when you got a million armies on the map thanks to all the cities you didn't waste time trying to protect for free

>>150575089
>thanks to all the cities you didn't waste time trying to protect for free
What cities? What are you talking about?

>>150574945

know what's more autistic? You.

>hurr durr I'm so shit at this game I can't properly use diplomacy, so it's the games fault, not mine, no, not my fault in the slightest

>>150575163
All of the ones you can occupy. They're generating income for YOU because you decided to take it instead of being a cuck.

>>150575267
>thanks to all the cities you didn't waste time trying to protect for free
>protect for free
That part autismo. What the fuck are you even implying with that?

>>150575184
>i'm terrible at the game and i need AI crutches, but it is you who conquers everything and is done by turn 100 who is shit at the game heh

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>>150574306
FUCK YOU

>>150575329
Name one benefit you get from not taking cities of other factions.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eKbJJ1I1Jg

All these kids these days, they know nothing of what we had to sacrifice.

>>150575401
I was done with my Empire campaign around turn 90 largely because I had my ally Brettonia and dorfs keeping orks and other shit in check. Find some gud anon, then git it.

>>150575610
By turn 70 or 80 I would've razed everything south and the rest of the turns spent mopping up the rest of the map. By done I mean DONE. No loose ends.

>>150575537
You can have a powerful ally that cheats just as much as enemy AI. They can help protect your borders, or simply exist as a buffer between big invasions of Chaos, where you sweep in and take both their territory and mop up weakened invaders when the battle is over.

>be dorf
>raze a greenskin villiage
>it requires some dorf soldiers to colonize it
>merely occupy a greenskin villiage
>requires no troop sacrifice

Does this imply that goblin townspeople magically turn into dwarven townspeople if you dont raze? Are they kept as slaves?
What is happening to the goblins?

>>150575857
Or you can take the city and have it generate income to create another army which is infinitely more useful than anything the AI can shit out. Unless you're telling me you actually lose to AI.

>>150575886
Razing is just much more violent and renders the settlement and surrounding lands unsuitable, living conditions wise. It's an obtuse abstraction because VIDYA GAMES.

>>150574824
her forehead is too big desu

>>150576010
>Or you can take the city and have it generate income to create another army
Which will require MUCH more investment before it generates enough to support a full army. You don't have to expand your empire in every single direction at the same time anon. That can only hinder your expansion by exposing you to too many enemies at once.

>>150575553
Give me a week or so, I'll see what I can get done.

>>150576708
You don't just stop at that city you dumb fuck, you take the cities bordering it too. Don't stop until all the lands are yours. It's that simple. The lands behind your borders are safe. The more lands you gobble up the less fronts you have to worry about.

>>150577079
>The more lands you gobble up the less fronts you have to worry about.
If you expand in every direction you only expose yourself on more fronts retard. No one is saying you don't go to war at all and make peace with everything, just that an ally here or there is useful, especially in warhammer, seeing as you can't settle in cities that don't belong to your race.

>>150577282
Doesn't matter because more cities = more armies and since you're on the offense all the time you won't have to worry about defense. Losing a minor settlement or two doesn't matter at all. Although you would still do well to quickly conquer that front all the way to the end. The only credible threat with this strategy is beastmen but they can only raze shit non capital villages so it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LPBVgRSaes

Here's the most broken empire army in the game currently.

Don't call me a shill I don't get paid to do this I just like showing off cool shit I find while I play this game.

>>150577730
If you have Dwarven allies you don't have to worry about defense much either, since going to war with them gets you literally nothing, and they can help you fight Chaos, Norscan shits or whoever.

>>150578002
They're subhumans. No loose ends. Much better for you to bring the fight to the enemy than them bringing the fight to you. Chaos always runs from me because I've got enough stacks trailing them around that win autoresolves.

>>150578297
>No loose ends.
How are they a loose ends? They are more armies that help you expand quicker. Going to war with them only hurts you.

>Age of Peace
>Karl declares war on me
>don't even fight back, just pay every other faction 100k+ shekels each to war against him
>Empire is wiped out in 10 turns
Have I finally mastered the Mountain Jew faction?

>>150578535
Doesn't hurt me when I raze their cities to the ground and use that money to upgrade capital buildings which give me more money

Anyone have a good picture of an ingame Vampire count castle?

>>150578705
You can have that small amount of money or a half dozen dorf stacks wrecking chaos alongside you. Which is better?

>>150579215
Money. It's no miniscule amount either. The AI is just dead weight.

>>150579305
The AI cheats like crazy, having your own cheating AI to nullify the enemy cheating AI and then just confederating when its all over is clearly the superior option

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As the vampire cunts, should I be starting as Manfred or as the Neckbeard Necromancer?

>>150579726
Doesn't matter. The AI does jack shit with those stacks. They're incapable of decisive battle. If they win a victory all they do is sit in their hovels instead of pursuing.

>>150579963

Mannfred is much, much stronger, and starts with fluffy.

>>150578497
This picture gave me a think. How does the lore of Orc healing work? Can they survive losing arms? Do they heal like lizards and regenerate limbs?

>>150580329
>Can they survive losing arms?

Yes. Orcs are pretty tough, though not to the retarded levels of 40K orks. No regen, though.

>>150580074
>The AI does jack shit with those stacks.
I've had dwarves completely wipe out Chaos in my campaign before. It's clear you haven't actually played the game with allies much because you're just making up shit now.

>>150580980
Try playing on difficulties other than easy.

>>150581251
I play on Very Hard and Legendary exclusively. Try again autismo.

What's a good nation to start as in Attila?
I don't know what I'm doing in it, shit's way more complicated than in Shogun 2.

>>150581726
Yeah and I play on hardcore, a secret difficulty beyond legendary

>>150581756
Play as one of the viking nations, you're in a strong position and dont have much competition.

The vandals are also really fucking fun.

Once you have a bit of experience under your hand try a horde as they are fun as fuck.

>>150581756
The empire is the most beginner friendly faction. Alternatively you could choose greenskins and rely on orc wave attacks but that's not very fun.

Has anyone tried playing a VC campaign where you try and go south early - basically immediately after acquiring all of Sylvania - and fighting dwarfs to garner respect for the greenskins? There are 5 greenskin factions that have vampiric influence, so could you not potentially ally yourself with a massive host of greenskin tribes?

>Walking down the mountains
>See some ugly grimgi
>He starts chattin to me about teef and fightin and other stuff
>I ask him if he wants a drink
>He says he doesn't like ale
>MY FUCKING FACE WHEN

ANOTHER GRUDGE

>>150581961
>shitpacker

Did CA/GW give a timeframe for this game?

Because I'm worried they won't possibly be able to add everything they should in a year, or even two years.

Please keep developing the game for like 3 or 4 years. I'll keep buying DLC like a good goy. I just want one good Warhammer Fantasy game now that it's basically gone forever.

>>150582212
10 years.

>>150582212
I wouldn't be surprised if they already had a ton of content ready to go that they simply withheld, or even cut from the game.

>>150582212
they were still printing dlc for attila after a year from release
and considering that they can start selling legendary lords as seperate DLCs after races are set were good for at least two years

>>150582024

But greenskins love booze, especially dwarf booze.

>>150582516
Atilla had only half the attention though, feel like that game fizzled out way to fast considering how good it was. Probably the time period that scared everyone off

>>150582694
Maybe that greenskin is a recovering alcoholic, or has diabetes and can't drink ale anymore.

Please consider others.

>>150582516
Yeah but DLCs in attila were just reskins. Some don't even have unique voices lmao.

>>150582713
Eh, the problem with Attila, for me, was I dislike playing as huge empires at the start (WRE/ERE/Sassanids), and I dislike horde factions.

For me, there wasn't really that many factions I wanted to play. I still bought it, and got like 40 hours as it because I played through as the ERE, but overall I was not a huge fan of the campaign map.

>>150582769

How can you tell me to be considerate of others when you're the one creating a grudge against him?

>>150582896
ANOTHER GRUDGE IN THE BOOK

>>150582889
You could have always played one of the germanic nations and settled quickly which was a possibility. Also the WRE you have to pretty much abandon everything and lots of the DLC factions had settled cities. I get what you're saying though, I personally loved the hordes but I understand why people didn't like them.

>>150582896
You can hold a grudge and be considerate at the same time. All that matters is that you were wronged, regardless of circumstances.

What was the /twg/ recommended submod for Third Age again?

>>150583894
Try the uninstall mod.

>>150583932
N-no bully!

>>150583894
Dont need one, it's perfect as is

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

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>>150584021
What has the world come to where bullies can't freely express themselves?

Will Wood Elves have a large emphasis on removing corruption? Beastmen spread chaos at a crazy rate.

>>150581251
this argument makes no sense, in fact its exactly the oposite, the easier the difficulty the stronger the player is compared to the AI. The AI is always the same strength relative to itself since all AI gets the same enhancements as difficulty goes up. Going around claiming you solopwnmobile the entire game and dismissing the AIs usefulness just makes it sound like you are playing on easy mode where the player is far superior to the AI

>>150586054
The player is FAR superior to AI on all difficulties.

>>150586054
Stop letting him bait you, anon.. You're better than this, by Grungi...

>>150567250
That makes a lot of sense, but now I'm wondering why that doesn't happen

>>150571701
maybe if you get a non potato pc or sort out your capture quality issues

>>150585438
I honestly have no idea what they have planned for wood elves. I don't know how they could add them without making athel loren a bit bigger but then what? Nowhere to expand but bretonnia. I think it would be easier for them to add dark elves along with naval combat but I honestly have no idea. I don;t really keep up with anything CA says.

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>Confederating with every other Beastmen tribe

I've got 7 stacks and I'm only paying 5k favour

>>150590031
do you get extra background money or something for confederating?

I always did the quests to get their respect but they always suicided on the nearest city before I could get anything more than a defensive alliance out of them.

>>150570514
Well since Rhana Dajnadra begins, I think in the next year.

>>150590118
-20 upkeep for confederating. Try and get that new army to you original ones or a safe area ASAP. Plus if you use your new stacks as ungor spam stacks and attack with them first with your actual armies supporting you basically have a brayherd with you at all times. Then just make a b-line to Minotaur then a Pile of Flesh for you new stack and you're golden

>>150590031
Actually, I'm paying 3k a turn now

What's your favorite /twg/ meme as of late? I always smile at G O B L I N S

>>150591032
Me too. I look for him every thread.

>>150591032
TOMB KINGS STILL NOT ANNOUNCED

>>150579963

I'd say go kemmler actually. If you start a campaign with him, it only takes like 10 turns max to unlock manny.

whereas if you start as manny, it takes for fucking ever to unlock kemler

>>150591032
I always preferred WEZ GOBBOS

>>150591032
Not really a meme, but I enjoy the occasional fights over which Chaos god is the best.

>>150580329
Apparently an Orc's biology is so crazy that an arm reattached with hammer and nails will sometimes fix it.

Oh and Orc "doctors" are called pain boyz.

>>150580329
Not really any regeneration, but if I recall correctly there are magikz by doktors that can help to regenerate Orkz.

If not, they probably can get metal ones. 'ard as nailz.

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>>150591032
>POO POO PEE PEE
was pretty fun but with Beastmen released it's not posted much anymore

what tree do you go down with thorgrim?

yellow, blue, red?

>>150591254
patrician taste

>>150591460
Also good

>>150593124
It was fun, but it burned out too fast. But a week long good meme is better than a month long bad meme

>>150573230
Oh shit me too. Killing Chaos makes the Old World a depressing postwar landscape with a lack of a common enemy.

>>150593520
Then it's simple... don't kill Chaos. Eternal War. Unified.

I wish I could take Grimgor and put him in any other army.

Grimgor is so fun to use. Crashing into groups of units and watching him slaughter them by the hundreds.

But he is in the least fun faction in the game. Even the dwarves have more interesting units than the Orkz.

>>150594571
yeah
why didnt they put in squigs?

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>Tomb Kings still not announced

>>150594571
The big problem with Orkz is that goblins are terrible, so any goblin unit is automatically out the window.

Their ranged units are useless past the early game, and against armor, so can them.

They're basically left with Big unz and Black Orz, some boars, and some doom divers, and thats your army. Maybe a giant or two.

It's all fucking infantry and a few units of mediocre cavalry.

>>150591032
Charlemagne as a unit of money.

>>150595078
They still do have trolls, arachnorok and goblins have purpose as meatwall so those units dont get charged or surrounded
well, normal boyz are better for it
goblin morale is just so pitiful single chaos spawn will cause all of them to run

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how accurate?

Is there still a first person artillery option in Warhammer? Never saw anything about it like in Shogun 2

>>150595373
Looks about right
- Rome I and Medieval 2 were great games during their time
- Empire will always be a buggy mess but has so much potential which Napoleon fulfilled (except for the campaign map)
- Shogun 2 and FotS are masterpieces
- Rome II sucked and is still only a mediocre game
- Attila a best
In addition
- Warhammer is good but still missing content to make it feel complete

>>150595762
It's in Rome II, Attila and Warhammer

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Is it confirmed that there will be 4 legendary Lords per faction or are you guys just guessing that they will to keep the factions even?

Who do you think a 4th chaos Lord would be? Who are some big players in the lore other than Archaeon for chaos?

>>150595906
>Is it confirmed that there will be 4 legendary Lords per faction
No, but when e.g. Orcs get 4 LL's I'm pretty sure every faction (except for maybe DLC factions) will also get 4 in total

>>150595373
to me only rome matter
so very inaccurate

>>150596036
Orcs are getting 4 LLs? What?

why are these raiding achievements bugged. I spent the last 2 hours carefully building my hordes without actually destroying anybody so that I could get 6000 chaos bucks and I finally get it and no achievement. I got 8,500 raiding income a turn and nothing.

I remember that hte ork raiding achievement also didn't ding till I lowered my raiding to 9k or something

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>>150596384
>Orcs are getting 4 LLs?
Probably, they have 2, get Wurrzag for free and the chances for Skarsnik in a LL pack are high.

>>150596746
I bet Skarsnik with squig unit dlc

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>>150596797
>unit
>singular

>>150596797
this desu

Where is the link to the previous thread

>>150597076
Faggots never link to the old thread now, dunno why though

So wait, are they gonna add lord packs for races that were added as dlc?

>>150571821

Those face models are Oblivion-tier.

>>150595762
not only is there a first person artillery option, But you can actually fly the goblin artillery.

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Your on the battlefield, fighting some Ork Boyz when this guy comes up and slaps your empire infantrymen's asses.

What do you do?

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>>150597784

>>150597784
Rout

>>150597880
>Fire cannons at one dude when he is flanking your main infantry line

So what you're saying is you want your own cannons to kill a bunch of your troops, and Gimgor isn't gonna give a fuck about a few cannon shots. He has like 6000+ HP.

>>150597784
Have Karl and a unit of greatswords dance fight him while I direct the rest of my army to smash his on the dancefloor.

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>>150598018
>you want your own cannons to kill a bunch of your troops
I'm a sneaky git, boss

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>>150597784
I have his entire army killed and watch him run away.

>>150597784
>What do you do?
Behead him with kingslayer.

>>150597784
rape his cunny

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>>150596797

>Skarsnik
>no Gobbla, just regular old squigs

delet this

>>150595906
Vilitch the Curseling, Wulfrik the Wanderer, Be'lakor, Valkia the Bloody. Chaos has a metric shitton of potential LLs.

>>150571701
>no bombing run
>generic shot of melee combat instead

>>150598221

Why did Grimgor run away?

What was his reasoning? Grimgor seems the sort like he wouldn't give a fuck if all his boyz died if he found a good fight like he did with Crom.

>>150595158
It's been co-opted by reddit, which significantly lowers the quality of the meme.

>>150595373
Switch the Medieval II and post-patch Rome II faces and we're gold. Also make the second Empire face more frowny, the game is still a broken piece of shit and was never patched by CA to do otherwise.

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>tfw savage orcs constantly attacking me as greenskins
How do i get them to fuck off?

>>150600394
>Switch the Medieval II and post-patch Rome II
>Rome II
>anything but mediocre

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>>150600287

GRIMGOR WAS WEAK

WITNESS TRUE POWAH

>>150600287
Presumably he knew there were tougher characters out there and he didn't want to lose a chance to fight them.

If an orc dies he loses, but if he runs away then he can try again.

From their point of view they can't lose no matter what.

>>150600437
stomp 'em, ya git

>>150600438
Post patching it's brilliant imo, much more functional than Medieval II.

Is there any faction unlocker that's updated for Beastmen patch?

>>150600287
Orkz are pretty smart.

They realize that if they die, they can't fight anymore. Grimgor isn't just gonna sit there and fight some git while his boyz run. He'll eventually be overwhelmed.

Better to regroup and then go fight another day. And considering he went and slaughtered all of the chaos dwarves, and chaos in general, I'd say he did a good job.

>>150600649
>much more functional than Medieval II
That's true but I think the image is trying to show the 'evolution' of TW and not how they are atm.

>>150600753
Yep, and the evolution for Rome II was a piece of shit and then something brilliant, rather than a piece of shit to something meh like the image suggests.

>Your drivers may be out of date. Check for updates.

Fool me once, shame on me? Fool me twice, and I won't, you can't fool me.

>>150600825
Rome 2 sucked at release and it still sucks now.

t. Someone who has 302 hours, because I was determined to get my moneys worth and tried out way too many mods.

>>150600825
I really wouldn't call it brilliant, especially with the features Attila has (which shouldn't actually count for the image)...
Well, a more positive reaction would make sense probably, but it's not a brilliant game even after all those patches.

>>150570510
good post

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>>150570510
GOBBO A BEST

What are some mods that make Chaos more fun? I want to be Archaon and fight dudes

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Hashut want more slaves!!!

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>>150601129
WE BRING DOOM FROM ZHARR NAGGRUND

>>150579963

Manny if you want a good lord at the start, kemmler if you want to be efficient because unlocking Manny is super easy compared to kemmler.

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>>150601129
>>150601197

hey guys can anyone give me some pointers on how to use chariots in TWWH I know I should be cycle charging them but it seems like they just get wrecked anyways and normal cavalry would just be better, but I might just be shit at microing them

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>>150592759
Slaanesh a best like always.

>>150600919
>Rome 2 sucked at release and it still sucks now.

You should play the release version of the game and then play the version we have now.

>>150601129
I really hope they do decide to put Chaos dwarfs in.

>>150601402
You're right, the only creative and original faction in the whole game maybe except for WWI ratmen and Aztec Lizards is boring.
Let me guess you like generic egyptican mummies?

>>150601586
Datamined info says yes, also the east would be pretty empty without them

>https://twitter.com/feralgames/status/761127268227747840
For all you retards and turbo autists in here

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

I hope we eventually get a Kislev DLC

IT'S OGRE! CA IS FINISHED!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0BuQ6jbvZE

>>150602310
not gonna happen
fuck slavs

What would be /vg/ approved mods ?

I'm looking for the best:
- Bretonnia overhaul
- Border Princes if it's balanced
- Anything you think is essential

>>150601621
>chaos dwarves
>creative and original

It's just evil dwarves, calm the fuck down

>>150602621
They are the only race banking on mesopotamian culture, which is rare in fantasy.

>>150596449
All the beastmen achievements seem fucked. Lots of people got the grand campaign achievement for winning the minicampaign, for example.

>>150602415
>gimmicky physics game made by a redditor

>>150602856

>Better battle simulator than CA has been able to develop in 2 decades and millions of dollars

>>150602415
Fuck off shill. Make a general for it if you want to discuss your shitty 40-man battles game.

>>150602928
>two models walk into eachother
>one falls over because lol physics

>>150602928
>runs after eachother like retards.

>>150602423
empire of sigmar.

It's been a long ass time. I don't know why I ever left.

Lakhmids have an ass fucking hard start, by the by.

>>150603045
too many units, look unbalanced

>>150603138
I wish it wasn't scripted so you go to war with either the sassanids or ERE really early. If you want to go against the sassanids you get fucked as they throw all their stacks at you, no matter who else they're at war with, and there's no way you can resist it that early in the game.

>>150573239

>Is it even possible to play multiplayer campaigns with randoms?

Fuck no.

Even with friends Coop campaigns take a lot of commitment.

>>150603312
Yeah. And if you stick with the Sassanids (Who get pissier and pissier) you go broke due to being their vassals.

Are Dragon Ogre's any good?

>>150603451
Minotaurs are better

>>150603486
It's amazing how stupid strong minotaurs are. I hope this isn't a herald of things to come, with every new DLC faction having a ridiculous unit that surpasses all previous ones.

>>150601525
I did. The version we have now is better, but it's still not good.

>>150603567
It's not Iike they are actually over powered, and most anti large or giants beat them.

They cost an absolute bomb, and should be good considering their price, a single minotaur costs two crypt horrors.

>>150603486
So where does that rank them?
Deciding whether to put Chaos Spawn or Dragon Ogres in my army, what do you recommend?

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How do I get enemy named generals to recruit? Do I have to confederate that faction, destroy them or do they randomly appear in my lord pool eventually?

>>150600163
Stop stealing my memes!

>>150604057
Confederate. You get their army with their faction leader.

>>150603567
But which units from each faction will be ridiculous?

>Skaven
Given how broken wardogs have been in previous TW titles, I'm going for the left-field choice of giant rats.

>Wood elves
Wardancers who dance straight through your front line without penalties and start fucking up the missile troops/war machines/wizards behind. Or just dance over a unit then rear charge it.

>Ogres
Leadbelchers with actual cannons on every model, plus ogre melee stats.

>Pansy elves
Phoenix guard with their 50% ward save, on top of being top-tier heavy infantry anyway.

>Edgy elves
The hydra with its hyper-regeneration.

>Dinosaurs
A bit like leadbelchers, bastilodon (variant with laser beam) can shoot like a luminark and tailthump like, er, an angry dinosaur.

>Chaos dwarfs
K'dai causing AOE fire damage around themselves.

>STILL NOT ANNOUNCED
Casket of souls to be the new Devolve.

>>150604219
>AOE fire damage around themselves
That's already in the game.
It's shit.

>>150604023

It's just too easy to lower upkeep cost as Beastmen.

A fully developed horde can sustain itself for next to nothing.

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>>150604219
I'm ok with that all

Also
>Ogres
My body is ready for an army full of 'minotaurs'

>>150603567

That's how it should be do. It's more enjoyable to achieve balance by letting every faction have something broke, rather than neutering every faction.

>>150604296
Is it? What unit does that?

It clearly is shit if I've never noticed the damage from it happening.

>start legendary dwarf
>ignore gunbad
>zhufbar never fucking takes anything north and im constantly raided

>start legendary dwarf
>rush gunbad
>zhufbar caps the villiage on turn 5

fucking zhufbar

>>150604424
Eternal fire banner or whatever it's called.

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>>150604052
If you plan on auto resolving a lot then pick chaos spawn, for some reason Dragon Ogres are a lot worse on auto resolve and thus your army will take more casaulties. Otherwise if you are picking a rush army use ogres as they have a good charge and great missile resistance.

>>150604219

>Skaven
Weapons teams for skaven should be amazing if done right, they should route units in seconds and be mobile enough to escape units. That and rat Ogres, following the theme of monstrous inftanty being OP.

>Dunno enough about about Wood Elves

>Ogres
Leadbelchers, and mounfang cavalry giant cav just sounds like it will be insane demigryphs on steroids.

>High Elves
lothern sea guard, amazing melee stats and some of the best archers in all of the Warhammer universe, the unit itself might not be near invincible like others but frees up a unit space by combining two units, plus its means you can have insane amounts of elite archers without sacrificing any melee capability.

>Dark elves
Dragon riders?

>Lizardmen
Crocsigaurs, or however you spell them. Big monstrous infantry on par with Minotaur.

>Tomb Kings.
War Sphinx?

>>150604312
In single player anyone can be over powered though,my chaos run I had nothing but chosen with great weapons and giants.

Dwarfs have iron breakers.

Empire can spam demis, and steam tanks.

Orcs can spam araknarok, and black orcs

Vamps have the best cav in the game, and vargulfs that can wrek anything.

>>150604219
>>150604821
Im getting hype over here guys

Weaponsmiths or armourers for my infantry/melee cavalry in Shogun 2, fellow daimyo?

>>150570281
>it aint me starts playing

>>150604821

DE don't get dragon riders outside their lords if I remember correctly, only HE get Dragon Riders.
DE stronk units might be Hydra, Executioners, Cold One Knights, repeater xbows (interesting to think how they will factor in Stupidity).

Actually most elf factions will be ridiculous thanks to ASF and especially DE with eternal hatred.

High elves faction

> Tier 1
Archers (bow)
Spearmen (spear, armored, shields)
Ellyrian Reavers (light cavalery, bow, vanguard)

> tier 2
Swordmasters of Hoeth (Armored, Great weapons, Fast)
Whitelions (Armored, Great weapons, Bonus vs Monsters, Resistant to projectiles)
Lothern Sea Guards (Armored, Shields, Spears, Bow, Decent Fighters)
Silverhelm (Heavy Cavalery, Armored, Shields Lances)
Repetition balista
Tiranoc chariots (bows)
Great eagles (Flying monsters)

> Tier 3
Phoenix Guards (Armored, Hallebards, Cause Fear, Ward Save)
Shadow Warriors (Bow, Decent Fighters, Vanguard, Immune to Psychology)
Dragon Princes (Heavy Cavalery, Armored, Lances and Shields, Res to Magic, Magical attacks, heavy upkeep)
Whitelion Chariots (cause fear)
Phoenix (Flying Monster, regeneration, rebirth)

> Heroes
High elf noble (Fighter, can mount a horse then a griffin)
Mage (No mount, Lore of Fire, Metal, Light or High Magic)
Shadow Prince (Archer, no mount, can get vanguard)

>Lords:
High elf Lord (Fighter, can mount horse then griffin then dragon)
Archmage (can mount a Phoenix, lore of metal, fire, light or high magic)

> Legendary Lords
Tyrion (Hero killer, can get regeneration with magical items, mount is a super horse)

Teclis (No mount, can pick spells from any lore)


> DLC Lord pack
Alarielle (Mage lore of light, huge healing power for the army)

Eternal queen guards (Bows, magic attacks)


> Lore of High Magic
T1:
Drain magic (remove mp from ennemy hand, remove all spells still at play around the caster)

Apotheosis: Heal a unit, the unit also cause fear

Hand of Glory: Boost stats

T2:
Teclis Labyrinth (teleport a friendly or ennemy unit on a small distance, can teleport on/from walls)

Tempest: Massive damage against multiple units

Ardent convocation: Invocation of a Phoenix, fire damage around the invocation ground

>>150605532
I always liked the armoursmith and naginata samurai combo

Makes them invincible

>>150605669
FUND IT for first or second expansion ;_;

How do you get close to an enemy without getting shred by artillery as VC?

>>150605662
Repeater crossbows, yep thats the good unit any fast firing missile with armor piercing is going to destroy armies.

What are their elite infantry? Black guard?

>>150605669

>Swordmasters of Hoeth on the same tier as Ungor herds

Or did you just forget that this game has 5 tiers?

>>150603301
its good for fluffing out the empire roster, and most units are capped at 1 or 2.

>>150605929
>did you just forget that this game has 5 tiers?
Does it ?

High Elves should be hard to get end-tier units to represent the fact they are so few. Let's say Tier 1 is actually 1, 2 and 3 while Tier 2 is 4 and Tier 3 is 5

>>150605669

I suspect we will have Lore of Life before we see HE, and boy will it be a game changer for the Empire. A lore dedicated to healing units will just change the dynamic of whoever possess it, and also weaken the VC significantly.

Available to Brets, lizardmen, High elves, and Empire.

I think we will get it when Bretonnia are added, it will buff out their roster.

>>150605929
>>150606026
TWWH units arent tiered like other TW games have

>>150606026
High Elves will be similar to Dwarfs, their Tier 1 units should beat any other tier 1 unit but cost the same as a basic tier 3.

They are expensive and few in number, but strong as fuck.

>>150606105

Not in the old sense.

There are the building tiers required to get them though.

>>150605871

Elite would probably be Black Guard, Executioners, Cold One Knights, Cauldron of Blood.

It's hard to say really, because they have amazing army compositions and all their core/special choices are just as good as their rare choices.

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>>150602621
>they're just aztec lizards
>they're just vampires
>they're just dead Egyptian humans

Etc. You're a retard, you can simplify any race. It just so happens the Chaos Dwarves are one of the most unique races in the setting and fantasy in general because people usually have 20 flavors of elf and then 1 flavor of dwarf. And the dwarf is always a good guy.

Chaos Dwarves within the setting of warhammer and made further unique by the unique traits of warhammer dwarves- they hold an eternal grudge against the dwarves of Karaz-a-Karak for leaving them for dead in ancient times and for then denying their existence once they rediscovered them. Unlike other dwarfs they created their own mountain-shaped in the middle of a plain rather than carving their home out of a mountain like the dwarfs. They, like the Skaven, have their own unique chaos god. The fact that Dwarfs in the setting have a resistance to magic and inability to use magic is overcome by their association with Hashut, but the price of trying to overcome their natural Dwarfen biology is that sorcerors turn to stone over hundreds of years until they are statues.

The faction they are probably most similar to are the Skaven, and even that isn't quite right because while both take slaves and are mad engineers warped by chaos with their own race-specific chaos god the Skaven are very numerous and expendable while the Chaos Dwarfs are few and elite. And the Skaven are also a very unique faction within the Warhammer setting and fantasy settings in general.

>>150603793
No I mean side by side, it was so long ago you've forgotten how shit it was in comparison, and you've let the prevailing image of the shit Rome II release cloud your judgement of the current game.

Rome II nowadays is one of the best Total War games.

>>150606148
They're highly skilled, but they die like bitches. Don't think they'll be anything like as solid as dorfs in the low tiers.

>>150595373
Where's shogun 1 and medieval 1 you baby?

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zogging gits

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>>150596449
>8500 a turn

How?

>>150606282
aztec lizardmen who hate skaven with a passion so they're actually kind of good guys

your argument is invalid, didn't read.

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>>150606420
stomp them gobbos

>>150606420
>being surprised when goblins are backstabbing little shits
You're the git here, anon.

Does Malagor spawn in the Badlands when playing Beasties in GC?

>>150606420
>Not betraying them as early as possible

>>150600437
Reminder that Savage Orcs speak a language which consists entirely of the word Waagh pronounced differently

>>150600394
Empire was fun regardless of how broken it was

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What the hell, I have literally never seen the Top Knotz wiped out other than by myself having to stomp them into dust.

>>150606617
>didn't read
Yeah that shows

>>150606671
>Empire was fun regardless of how broken it was

Some people say the same about rome 2, so there is that.

I would love it if Skaven were designed to reflect the nature of the swarm.

For example, an Empire swordsman group consists of 90 soldiers, I'd love it if a Skaven unit of the same cost/strength consisted of 180 rats that were half as strong as the swordsmen.

Would make them a bit worse in direct confrontation but have a lot more potential for flanking and morale damage

>>150606715
But empire had a lot of unique mechanics like multiple continents and trading outposts between them which haven't been used since

I wish I could find my empire discs

>>150606686
I love the fairly random nature of the campaign, the AI's don't always do the exact same things each campaign.

>>150606739
They'll have the same unit sizes as goblins on most units.

>>150606823
>But empire had a lot of unique mechanics like multiple continents and trading outposts between them which haven't been used since

And they were mostly shit in that game. It's not like the trading outposts were interesting.

>>150606739
If anything they'll come close. I think as it is Goblins at max are 160 per unit so i can see it being along the same lines as them.

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>>150606856
AND GOBBO UNITS ARE TOO SMALL!!!

>>150606739
I hope they dont have moral penalty for friendly fire, its a key part of their play style firing into slave rats that tarpit the enemy.

Cant wait for weapons team, and jezzails to just rip and tear through entire armies.

>>150605669
Ignoring everything else that is shit about this speculationfag roster, the fact that you haven't got the Phoenix King as a legendary lord is pretty retarded.

It's like having the Empire without Karl Franz.

>>150607345
>Phoenix King

lol

>>150607528
FUCK YOU

>>150607528
My HE lore is a bit sketchy, but Finubar is still King at the time of Karl isn't he?

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>>150607345
>Phoenix King as a legendary lord

>>150607345
>everything else that is shit about this speculationfag
Yeah because there's sooooo many more units that could be in.

> Phoenix King
Have you ever play High Elves or you just like shitposting ?

>>150606551
eye for an eye campaign

I have quest rewards for 100 percent bonus raiding income, 15 percent bonus for tech, and 6 hordes camped out in 3 provinces.

>>150607736
>>150607817
I just know the lore, what's so ridiculous about having Finubar as the Legendary Lord? He's the race leader, so why not?

>Yeah because there's sooooo many more units that could be in.

>all those elite units at tier 1 and 2.

>>150607976
It's a samefag dude, It's just one guy trying to push his shitty meme.

>>150606652
Only if you choose him.

>>150607976
>>all those elite units at tier 1 and 2.
> tier 1
> elite
What ? Reavers are elite now ? They are core is the frigging TT game.

Also there's only 3 tiers in this exemple, just to show in which order you're supposed to get them, not setting a definite building tree

> Finubar
The Phoenix King, in almost all TT edition, is famous for never showing up or being even playable. Tyrion is doing the job for him, even when it gets to plow the Eternal Queen. So yeah, Finubar as a LL would be weird, Teclis and Tyrion were always the most famous HE heroes

>>150608245
Lucky this isn't TT ;). This is a Total War game where the faction leader is always represented.

>>150608358
>the faction leader is always represented
Morghur is playable ? GREAT !

>>150608358
>faction leader
Dunno if you can really count Grimgor, Mannfred and Khazrak as faction leaders.
Grimgor is just a powerful orc but not leader of all orcs.
Mannfred is head of the von Carsteins but there are other houses.
Khazrak is leader of a bunch of Beastmen in the Drakwald, imho Malagor should be the leader since he's directing the fate of the beastmen or something like that

>>150608358
Bullshit. Lileath isn't in the brettonia roster.

>>150608486
He's not the faction leader, beastmen don't really have one at this point in time. Gorthor could probably have been called that, but he ded.

>>150608520
Mannfred is the faction leader and the most prominent of the VC lords, he is leader of the Von Carstiens who are the biggest and only relevant house.

>>150608632

>t.Mannfred

>>150608632
>>150608762
Would be cool if, if/when the map expands south and east, Neferata is in the game ruling the silver pinnacle.

>>150608762
Mannfred is the greatest Lord to ever shed his shadow onto the warhammer universe, he is far stronger and smarter than the loser Nasgash. Mannfred is the rightful leader of the Empire, and an accomplished elector count.

>>150608632
>Mannfred
>>150608632
>most prominent of the VC lords
choose 1
Mannfred get cucked by karl like a baby the only thing mannfred as done right is nagash resurection and he was at that time under Arkham the Black

>>150608947
DELETE THIS

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>confederating half the badlands in one turn

Mork (or possibly Gork?) would be pleased.

>>150609339
>gayfederating
>making Mork or Gork happy
Pick one!

>>150609426

>not being a cunnin git

get a load of this git

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holy shit Greenskins cannot into sieges

>>150609684
how the fuck

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>>150609684
they literally just sit 90% of their men in range of my towers and wait as they die, is this normal?

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>>150608632
>>150608889
Why do I love Mannfred so much?
It's pretty simple when I think about it.
Mannfred isn't just the best character in the Warhammer world, he might just be the greatest character of all time.
Just imaging him riding through the swamps of Sylvania, the wind in his hair, his mighty steed below him.
As he rides through the World's Edge Mountains, the Lahmians swoon at his very scent.
They know how he smells, the essence of his smell is sold in Marienburg under the the name of "Carstein Orgasm."
The very nature of Mannfred is mystery.
Could he be playing a deeper game than even his creator realizes?
The answer is yes, he has transcended such boundaries as the written world, and has free will to do whatever he sees fit.
However, Mannfred is filled with such guile, such arcane craft that he does not even use these powers.
Why, you might ask? You will never know, for the mind of the Mannfred is not one that is easily penetrated.
Mannfred is such a force of nature in his realm that nothing can truly touch him, the only thing keeping him bound to the page at all is his will to exist within the preordained boundaries of his world.
Mannfred is not only beyond the comprehension of us, he exists within a plane of true focus and beauty.
Observe his playful smile, his gorgeous and rippling biceps, his gallant nose, and most importantly, his eyes.
His eyes, like pools of saffron, provide the only glimpse into the true machinations of Mannfred. Do not stare into them. Many good men have gone mad in the attempt.
Mannfred is not just a character, a formless collection of words and images, he is himself is the binding that holds the Warhammer world together.
Without Mannfred, the entire Warhammer world, the entire Games Workshop as we know it crumbles.
The Reik would stop flowing without Mannfred, Athel Loren would become a desolate crater, and Norsca would melt without his frosty gaze.
These are just of a few of the reasons why I like Mannfred so much.

>>150609792
Yes.

Despite CA's main reasoning for the gimped sieges being "the AI actually works now!!!!!", the ai doesn;t actually work.

>get shogun 2
>enjoy shogun 2
>get attila
>don't know what the fuck I'm doing

This shit looks way more complicated
what do?

>>150609684
One day spiders will be able to climb the walls. One day.

playing as the saxons in attila

why are so many of my f*cking soldiers women? this is not realistic. it has to be at least 1/3

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>>150609848
WE SHALL RISE

>>150610047
are you speaking of nordic band or all units in general?
band is your leftovers peasant corps so it has all the useless people

>>150609848
THE TRUE VON CARSTEIN

>>150610190
Dogger

>>150574306
Good reference, got a chuckle from me senpai.

>>150609848
>, the wind in his hair
what hair?

>>150609874
Don't play as one of the roman empires for your first playthrough.

Probably the biggest change is your settlements are now in "provinces", normally with one major settlement and two minor ones. Public order, sanitation, religion, income, and recruitment are shared across the settlements of a province. So for example, you don't need a food building in every settlement, an outlying town can provide the food for the big city.

The main things to make sure every province has enough of are food (go with goats if you're not sure what's going on with fertility) and sanitation (build a well in a minor settlement, you don't want negative squalor).

With barbarian factions you'll get recruitment options from farms and industrial buildings and taverns and stuff, they don't have dedicated military buildings like barracks.

The building browser is actually quite useful in attila compared to shogun 2.

Any of that help?

>>150609848
>Carstein Orgasm
Yes.

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hey guys, just wanted to say how handsome and strong Mannfred von Carstein, truest of his name, is. i think it's pretty great how he destroys Karl Franz and instates himself as the true emperor, which he certainly is. also his immense power, surely surpassing that of Nagash, is just really amazing to see. who would protect the world from Chaos if not for Mannfred?

I fucking love grudgethrowers, why are dwarfern cannons so shit?

>>150610484
I don't know yet but I appreciate your effort

>>150610738
cannons low arc just makes them harder to use in turtling

Why is Manlet von Cuckstein so shit?

>>150610738
Organs > Grudgethrowers >>> Cannons > Flaming Meme Cannons