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>>150283057

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
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POISE IS WORKING AS INTENDED

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4vnan9/how_poise_works/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_07Q1g-sdJ0

But in the end, its still useless as ever.
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shield bash
>shield bash
shield bash
>shield bash
shield bash
>shield bash
shield bash
>shield bash
shield bash
>shield bash
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>>150328403
>defending cheating
Cream of the Crop of /dsg/ posters. I bet you masturbate to Malcolm Reynolds videos.
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How do I fight washing pole users? The range blows me the fuck out. Rolling with demon axe and whip.
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>>150328564
Most people learn not to circle their left fairly early on, anon.
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>>150328702
Use a shield
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>>150328084
Tell me the best one
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>>150328706
so i should cycle my right so he does nothing but block? k
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>>150328702
just hold a stable shield, shuts them down completely
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>>150328702

Using just the weapons you have, try and keep mind of spacing at all times and predict when they will do a running attach to trade with a HA axe attack for more damage on your end. Or you can pressure them by running right up to them and keeping right on their ass; if you two hand the whip and use the WA while right up to them you'll either get a free hit with it or they roll out and either get hit by the end of the WA or create enough space for you to use your axe if they use a running attack.
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>>150327472
It was one of my favorite weapons in the beginning when I played my first playthrough blind.
As soon as I finished the game and tried to check out online I realized that literally EVERYONE was using it, and since I hadn't pvped with it yet I had no idea exactly how bad it was.
It's called the meme edge spin sword for a reason.
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>>150328702
black knight shield and rapier

avelyn when they give up on running r1
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Is there no difference between ng+ other than some rings?
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>>150329385
enemies have 15% more health i guess
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PS4 FC Anybody?
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Anyone else like the twindaggers?
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>>150329385
enemies have mor hp and deal more damage. you will also find different kind of souls (soul of an old hand or whatever)
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>>150328570
>guy hacks against squads
>point that hacking is never excusable
>/dsg/ shits itself
>people talk about CEing items
>oh no, this is wrong

Fucking /dsg/, make up your mind
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>>150329710
I still wreck enemies and despite a new name they still give the same amount of souls
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>all around me are familiar faces
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Getting bored of how op the astora greatsword is.
How are the gargoyle hammer or imolation tinder for pyros? Man serpent hatchet looks fun too
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What level and weapon reinforcement should I be at if I want to watchdog in Crucifixion Woods/Farron Keep respectively?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6uyuIQYlfY [Embed]

Dark Souls 2 announcment trailer was so fucking good... It set such a perfect atmosphere of despair and journeying towards a hopeless goal...

Are there any games that actually deliver what DaS2 promised?
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>>150330007
to me, hacking is never excusable.
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>>150330314

Immolation Tinder is a pure INT weapon.

Gargoyle Hammer is mediocre.
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>>150330314
>op
the only "op" thing about it is the rolling attack (which is STILL bugged 4 months later)
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GIVE SOME NEWS ABOUT THE DLC YOU FUCKING JAPS
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there's too many events we need to give events a rest for a while maybe in a few years we can have events again
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>>150330007
bypassing grinding is different from actually breaking the very fundamental mechanics of the game

whether or not you want to grind is only up to you, the end result is the same
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fashion is for gay little boys

wearing the full armor set is for patricians
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will drake host an fc tonight? supposedly we're going to have one in the infinite zombie pits outside the cathedral
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>>150329576
Sure.
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>>150328808
You have a kick for a reason.
And a bunch of weapons have Arts that let you smash their shields right out.
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>>150330686
>Patricians
You life must be shit my friendless Virgin Neet friend
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Quick, what would be a fun build to constantly backstab with?
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>>150330486
Fuck. I just want a unique weapon that isn't shit
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>>150329385
Another thing that Dark Souls 2 did better.
I mean, DS2 even has a fucking boss show up early to give you a scare.
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>>150330918
Anti-Magic Field + Fatal Anything and/or Baby's Nail.
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>>150330895
f-fuck you
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>>150330970

Witches Locks are 'alright' for pyros despite not being mechanically different from every other whip in 3.
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>>150331123
I used it for a while but honestly, I can't use these lame whips after BB'S threaded cane
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>>150330918
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>>150331308
I like you
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>>150331087
Do you suck dick?
If yes I will invite you to my Party next Week
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I want to replay DaS again, but I already know the game by heart.
How can I make it exciting again?
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>>150331484
No estus
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>tfw want to make turtlepoking greatshield strength build but full on character slots
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>>150331308
>refined with 9str/60dex
>farron ring when it only decreases the cost of quickstep by 1 FP.
>bandit's knife on a crit-focused build instead of a dagger with an actually worthwhile crit modifier
What are you doing?

Also quickstep daggers are shit for backstab fishing since you can't BS out of a quickstep like you can from a roll. You're better off just using a rapier with a shield so you can fish properly and punish retards with that stupid shieldpoke BS gimmick.
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could someone here pls help me get some stuff to my new character?

>>150331965
wait, theres limited characterslots? how many?
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>get summoned for big tree
>host summons a madman
>enjoy the show
how nice of him

host won but the fight lasted for eons
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>>150332139
i think it ten senpai

Also, I can help you mule

Watcha need transferred? Are you on PC lad?
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>>150331965
What strength weapon would you even turtlepoke with?
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>>150332274
im on pc, need some rings and armor transferred
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>>150332285
Winged spear or estoc
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Twin princes is dead now, who can I get to summon me at level 100?
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>>150332413
Might as well just go quality then, both of those are dumpster on a strength build.
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>>150332472
But that's utterly false.

Winged Spear is A strength scaling infused with heavy.
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man strength weapons are so fun to use but they're so shitty
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>>150332568
A scaling and dumpster AR
Letters ain't the whole story guy, look at the numbers before you waste your time.
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>>150332472
>>150332568
15 dex 66 str heavy estoc has 337 AR, while 15 dex 66 str refined estoc has 343

15 dex 66 str heavy winged spear has 350 AR, while 15 dex 66 str refined winged spear has 349 AR

Reminder that refined is balanced.
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>>150332636
the stam consumption is really killing pve for me
in ds1 i beat the game with like 15end and a greataxe, no issues, but in ds3 you NEED extra stam always to roll boss combos
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>>150332820
what the heck?
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>>150332637
There isn't a single better weapon in the game for turtlepoking than heavy estoc or winged spear

that's the disadvantage of not pumping dex
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>can't string R1 into second R2 or R2 into second R1
hack job
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>>150332876

Refined is fucking borken
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>>150332876
heavy estoc is a meme perpetuated by lucy trying to diss SL80 pvp. It's inherently shit
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>>150332853
This weird combination of Dark Souls and Bloodborne isn't working.

It's possible to beat the game with a strength weapon, but it's so obvious that the game wasn't designed with them in mind.
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>>150332274
how would we even do this?
can you drop your sign where ive already defeated the boss?
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How the FUCK do you PvP, let alone invade, as a mage?

I'm using a Crystal Winged Spear as my melee weapon.
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>>150333226

He's gone drop a red sign bruh
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>Old Dragon God

wew lad

quality boss fight
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>>150333056
>dex playthrough
>twin kats are shit
>ricards is shit
>sharp carthus is shit
everything is mean to be quality or nothing

only thing you get is chaos blade

>>150333252
be melee first, mage second
use spells to harass, like soulmass, hail and dart
MLGS, sage rapier or buffed twin sellswords
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>>150333287
what where?
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>>150333252
For invasions you sneak attack I've heard.
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Are soul greatsword / farron flashsword any decent (in either PvE or PvP), or should I just stick with great(heavy) soul arrows for now?

It took me 2 playthroughs to realize Orbeck of Vinheim even existed. I just walked straight past his area every time because I didn't see the upwards slope.
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>>150328334
Worst Boss in the whole series ?
Easiest one?
Best One?
Most difficult?
Your favorite?
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>>150333226
you need a red sign soapstone on whatever character you're going to use to give me the items

we'll meet at the tower on the wall bonfire with the pass "dsgmule" and you'll summon "Drake"

Use the "Leave" option on whatever items you want to transfer after listing exactly what you're going to transfer to your other character, and then you will summon me as a red phantom and I will drop the items you traded to me.
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Creepiest bosses?
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>>150333501
Bed of Chaos
The church dudes in DS2
Artorias
Pontiff
Artorias
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>>150333252
I usually lead with soulmass unlocked, sometimes if you roll into them when they're trying a running attack the orbs on the side will nick them and you can turn around to hopefully hit them with the rest.

Farron flashsword and soul greatsword have saved my ass many times, but don't spam flashsword, you'll get parried easily. toss in a running flashsword once in a while. farron dart for potshots, and crystal soul spear, although i tend to use it sparingly. People don't expect you to cast it right in their face, especially after you've used soulmass a few times.

I carry a crystal lothric sword in case I run out of fp, but it does crap damage.
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>>150333501
Worst
Bed of chaos
Easiest
Dragonrider
Most difficult
For me I'd say pontiff
Favourite
The champ followed closely by soul of cinder
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>>150333469
Soul Greatsword has basically only 1 use: it's the only sorcery for most of the game that can hit multiple targets, but unfortunately its damage isn't particularly great for how close you need to get to hit with it and how long the windup is.

Farron Flashsword is a pvp spell. The FP-efficiency is absolutely atrocious and takes forever to kill anything so it's not really worth using in pve. Any time you could've used flashsword, a regular melee weapon would have done more damage, faster and for less stamina. In pvp it basically just lets a sorcerer access downgraded straightsword R1s without wasting an offhand.

Soul arrows will be your bread and butter for most of the game.
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>>150333020
Some weapons can
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>>150334028
Thank you.
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I've beaten about 7-8 bosses so far in DaS2 and they all felt the same. Interesting bosses when?
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It sucks that the most popular fight club is in an area with a mandatory boss
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Antiquated gloves
hunter's ring
ring of favor
shcolar ring
antiquated skirt
antiquated dress
lorian's helm
55 moonlight arrows
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>>150333670
could you set your sign now at the first bonfire? the other character isnt at the second one yet
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>>150334229
Cool
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>>150333252
PVE is a cake for mages, but they were never meant to be viable in pvp. The only casters that can be viable are pyros, but experienced player can dodge all they throw.
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>>150329576
I'd play
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>>150334202

The only bosses in this franchise that are interesting are the giant humanoids with swords

>Gwyn, Lord of Cinder and Artorias
>Fume Knight and Sir Alonne
>Pope Sully and Soul of Gwynder
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>>150334228
>4 optional bosses all in bad FC areas
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>>150333837
honestly Gaping Dragon first time I fought him
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So was Lothric's kingdom entirely made up of undead?
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Any fashion that goes with the billed mask for a heretical cleric knight build?
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>>150330779
NG+7 infinite zombies seeded final destination no items allowed
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>>150334469
most people in the dark souls universe are undead friend
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>host summons an NPC phantom that does piss poor damage
>die because of increased boss damage and prolonged fight
It's not fair
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>>150334386
Are there any small bosses in the series? That rat shit from ds2 doesn't count, as ds2 was made by drunk janitors.
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>>150334469

All kingdoms are made up of undead, some just haven't remembered it yet
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>>150334386
Haven't played DeS I assume?
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>>150334469
No. The undead were doing pilgrimages there.
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>>150334543
>die because you are a scrub and not a true sunbro
>blame tough boss
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>>150333924
I don't seem to remember the church dudes in 2 for some reason
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Praise the sun desu
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>>150334563
>Are there any small bosses in the series

Pretty much just Micolash, Host of the Nightmare, Gehrman, the First Hunter, and Lady Maria of the Astral Clocktower
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>>150334386
>hating on giant guy with a hammer and giant guy with a spear
>or giant guy with a staff
>or giant guy with a hammer
>or giant guy with a halberd
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>>150333501
I haven't played DaS3, so bear with me

>Worst boss
Bed of Chaos. The two black panthers are a very close second.

>Easiest boss
Dragonriders. The one at Heide's can be hard since you find him very early in the game, and new players don't know how to dodge properly.

>Best one
That's hard to choose, I really enjoyed Fume Knight and Ivory King. I guess Ivory King is the best because the whole fight is just so fucking cool.

>Most difficult
The two nigger panthers, Lala and Zulu or whatever their name is.

>Your Favorite
I don't really know. I thought the best one was my favorite? There are a few bosses I really enjoy, and they're almost all from DaS2. DaS 1 got kind bad of after Anor Londo, and I can't say Smough and Ornenstein are a good boss.
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>>150334719
I honestly could not try harder to remember their name but I can't.
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>Belfry Gargoyles

Just how.
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>>150334229
i think you dropped the antiquated stuff twice
anyway, thanks dude
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i hope that was everything ayylmao
>>150334229
>>150334307
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>>150334703
>tfw you praise the sun
>tfw you slay bosses all day
The one true covenant
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>>150334759
didn't read your post but that picture is nice
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So DaS states that humans regularly banished undead to the north
What do you think those strictly human civilisations were like?
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>>150334719

Church dudes in DaS2 are kind of like the church dudes in DaS3 except they don't have a health-threshold mechanic to lengthen the fight or an instakill attack
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>>150334830
at least what area were they in? god I feel like I have Alzheimer's
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>>150334541
All people in DS are undead and eventually go hollow. They are all descendants of the furtive pygmy (aka anus the first man). I don't think that it is worth looking too deep into the DS lore as it will turn into bullshit if dug enough.
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>>150334719
>>150334830
Prowling Magus and the Congregation.

>>150334889
Thanks, anon. Please read my terrible opinions and I might post more from the same doujin.
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Why does Crystal Soul Spear damage Soul of Cinder twice? Been co-oping him today and it happens every time.
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>Soldering Iron
>super cool looking fun little spear with split damage
>neat special effect, perfect for spooky invasions
>completely garbage damage
>completely garbage scaling
>can't be buffed
>can't be infused
>25 durability

Why is fun not allowed?
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>>150334947

They're the midboss of Tseldora, they're literally just something you gank on your way to fight Freyja
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>>150334860
santier's spear or cheese with greatshield


should i go to NG+35 and leave deacons alive for zombie pit PC FC or just host some more official /dsg/ demon ruins pc fc (tm)
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>>150334905
>>150334947
oh Jesus Prowling Magus and Congregation I remember now, yeah that was piss easy
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Hey it's O&S here, with another edition of "Let's start an internet argument in my comment section"
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>>150334737
They are not smaller than Artorias or Gwyn. All enemies in DS are humanoids or dogs of varying sizes. In ds3 dogs learned how to teleport.
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Best Chime and Talisman at 30 FTH?
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>>150334228
There's hardly any areas in the game without mandatory bosses

Youd be limited to:
Untended Graves. Lousy scenery and small, claustrophobic arena. Locks the host out of a titanite slab
Smouldering Lake. Good but lousy framerate for toasters
Archdragon Peak. Locked behind most of the main game and bad framerate for toasters. Only 2 viable fighting spots. Locks the host out of a titanite slab
Undead Settlement. Few good arenas and locks the host out of soul transposing for that playthrough. Easy and quick to reach on a new NG cycle, though.

Settlement might actually be the best location, considering everything.
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Why does everyone hate the Santier's Spear? I admittedly didn't do too much pvp in 2
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>>150335149
okay i got a perfect argument

can anyone give me literally 1 good fucking reason that isn't obvious bias as to why From Software shouldn't double the stamina consumption of straight swords, thrusting swords, spears, halberds, glaives, katanas, and daggers and reduce the stamina costs of gretaxes, greatswords, ultra greatswords, and greathammers by a quarter?
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Physical infusions suck dick and bring absolutely nothing new to the table. It's just infusing strength weapons with heavy and dex weapons with sharp.
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>>150335313
It was pretty broken on release
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>>150334872
yeah that was everything, thanks again.
i still need 2 other items from another character, could you maybe do it again? id be very grateful
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>>150335313
only /dsg/ hates it and /dsg/ doesn't know SHIT about dark souls 2 pvp
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>>150335354
How about increase the stamina consumption of rolling by 1/4
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So 100 is the PVP sweet spot, right? you can fight with level 80's and level 120's?
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>>150335205
>They are not smaller than Artorias or Gwyn

They actually are smaller, Artorias is massive, just hunched over, and Gwyn is a few heads taller than the player. Micolash is exactly the player's size, Maria is about half a head taller because Amazon, and Gehrman's not really that much taller.
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>>150334893
I always imagine Carim being like an Italian city state (there's an earl of carim, so we know it's not a full blown kingdom)
Catarina I imagine like a sort of central european forested area.
Astora I see as like an idealised Arthurian style England/France. Epitome of feudalism.
Thorolound strikes me as dreary sort of place, lot's of highlands.
I think Zena is like an ancient roman kind of place. It's described as historical, and the nose on the preset looks like the sort of nose that was admired in rome.
I have ideas about the other places, but I don't want to bore you.
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>>150334228
>>150335265

>not dueling at the centre of Consumed King's Garden
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>>150335367

You mean infusing everything with Refined
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>>150335435
Yes

>>150335407
im working getting our FC up and running fampai
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>>150335313
It deals ok damage and breaks poise easily. I guess it's more hated than other twinblades because you can turtle with it.
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>>150335313
It was meta for a brief period early on in the game's life, when Mundane was overpowered and SM tiers were less balanced, forcing players who had just finished the game to frequently face max level mule characters that dished out like 2k damage combos with a mundane santier's while full havels and 4 stacked buffs made them nigh-invincible and unstaggerable.

Then mundane got nerfed to oblivion, mules got banned and SM tiers got fixed to properly separate endgame pvp meta and max level autists, plus people learned how easy multihit attacks were to parry so it stopped being god tier. It's still a pretty solid weapon due to its super versatile moveset, but most of the ire comes from the short stint where it was the sultan of shittery.
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>>150335516
holy fuck this would be amazing

as long as no one killed host and we had a solid place to drop signs it'd be great
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>>150335265
Yeah, Sadly dueling at settlement would hardly be... dramatic
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>>150335472
>I always imagine Carim being like an Italian city state (there's an earl of carim, so we know it's not a full blown kingdom)
>Earl

Then it's Anglo, not Italian
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>>150333501
>Worst Boss in the whole series ?
Bed of Chaos.
>Easiest one?
Prowling Magus and Congregation
Best One?
DS3 has a lot of good ones... Nameless King
Most difficult?
Manus
Your favorite?
Ornstein and Smough
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Alright senpaitachi, I'm going through NG+34, anyone wanna co-op for funsies with drakevlyn

I REALLY SHOULD HAVE FUCKING RESPECCED FOR THIS
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>>150335778
I'm just saying how I imagine it. I'm not sure how much attention they would pay to details like that anyway.
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running around with Blue Sentinels on all day and no summons after 20 minutes
what gives?
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>>150334228
>>150335516
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>>150335887
im in, where do i put my sign?
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>>150335989
High Wall of Lothric

Gotta plow through gundyr's cute asshole with dual avelyn's
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>>150335407
Hey, did you take an extra Ring of Favor? I can't find mine or my Wolf Ring anywhere
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>>150334563
Garl Vinland, DS2 Gank Squad, King Allant.
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>>150335516
The only problem with the Garden is that there's nowhere that doesn't involve mob-clearing and in NG+ and beyond, resetting after Vincent dickers Depression for the nth time would become a real pain in the ass.
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>>150335115
go somewhere interesting

>>150336164
if you die as a summon you come back right where you entered the host's world
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>>150335983
There should be a fightclub in the middle of Farron swamp where you cannot run or roll properly.
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>ds2 requires you to summon NPCs if you want to do their quests

Ugh
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>>150335354
Ultra weapons are always inferior to smaller ones and, unless the ultra player is much better or was using one of the few exceptions to the class, would lose too often. They can't be balanced properly enough since they will always need to capitalise on bigger mistakes. Knowing this From decided to show newcomers the ropes by helping them identify the good weapons
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>>150336127
nope only have one, but i can give it to you, it doesnt really do much on sl6
do you maybe have some spare dorkmoon bows and dark hands? figured since youre ng+35 youd have a load of them
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Top kek, good to see the strategy of killing dog enemies is still to hang underneath them and hack away until your hearts desire.

Seriously though I am enjoying this thoroughly more than DS2 so far. Even if both bosses I've fought to this point have been ridiculously easy (they are the first two bosses I guess), the levels feel way more open than in DS2 where they were essentially straight lines. I also walk into new areas, see all the enemies roaming around, and feel apprehensive to move on, something that I don't recall feeling once in DS2. I do miss the 60fps though Goddamn toaster.
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>>150335887
pass dsg right? i'm at the wall bonfire
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Would anybody like to coop with me for awhile RPing as bosses desu?

And can anybody spare some embers?
(Playstation 4)
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>>150336385
I was talking to havelyn, I muled some rings for him earlier
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>>150336468
Which starting class is that?
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dlc when
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>>150336693
b-but that was my post
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>>150336468
Enjoy the honeymoon while it lasts. When you're done with PvE only cancer awaits.
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The claws sure are a shitty pve weapon.
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>>150334325
But what weps are best for pyro?
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>>150336279
>if you die as a summon you come back right where you entered the host's world
And your souls lie over by that NG+5 Cathedral Knight who's purpose-built to fuck your tonsils.

That's not even really the issue. The issue is that to participate, I have to burn down 3 pus of man and a Cathedral Knight or 2, and then reclear them any time I tag the bonfire to pull something out of storage or warp to firelink and refill some consumables or warp to rosaria and change my build, and also that the host has to also reclear the area while unembered every time someone goes and murders them, making the whole process take even longer.

I'm not saying it can't be an FC location, but we ought to figure ways to make it as painless as possible because holy fuck I am not fighting these 5k hp fucksnakes every time I need to tag a bonfire.
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>>150336784
>The claws sure are a shit
ftfy
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>>150336696
Mercenary or something like that, the one that starts with the dual blades. Didn't really like them too much though so went back to ye old faithful shortsword for now, while I adjust.
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>>150333501
The 3 NPCs from DS2 is the worst
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>>150335265
Can't you summon in the room that you find Horace in? It's fairly plain so I'd imagine the fps isn't too bad and because it's off to the side you don't have to do anything of the area to host there.
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>>150336581
Sec lad, creating a memepoll for the FC event

My apologies for the extra long wait

http://www.strawpoll.me/10891471

VOTE FOR THE FC LOCATION FAGGOTS
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>playing a dual wielding swordsman with two scimitars
>get to lost sinner
>get rekt by phantom range
>give it a try with a large leather shield
>the fight is a cakewalk

So this is the power of a shield
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>>150336942
They're good in pvp since poise doesn't exist.
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How to achieve ultra hyper mode on dark souls 3 dsg ?
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>>150336279
He meant Vincent meme killing the host
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>>150337038
>no consumed garden
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Hol up
I haven't seen an estoc in weeks, what's up with that?
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>>150337418
Gottmeme's the new thing
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>>150336164
>>150335715
>>150335516

I killed everything here. I can host here if you want.
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>>150337237
Moron blade + red ring + dragon roar + Power within + other stuff that adds dmg %
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>>150335036
>>150334759
>>150334889
https://exhentai.org/g/928987/9618892565/
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>>150333501
>Worst
Dragon God.
You can rush BoC.

>Easiest one
Dragonrider

>Best one
In terms of buildup,lore significance, difficulty, presentation and mechanics, Manus. If I was given the opportunity to redesign the entire series based on the retrospect we have now, Manus would be the end boss, with Soul of Cinder being the Penultimate one.

Similarly, the first game would introduce the legend of Artorias, you'd meet the Anus Watchers in 2 with a whole Abyss themed DLC and you'd fight the real deal in DS3 DLC. In his Prime, using his greatshield.

You fight Orns and Smough in 1, Orns survives, Smough bites or gets severely injures and has to stop fighting. Ornstein will make an appearance in DS3 DLC and his intro cutscene will be slightly different if the player either has the NK soul in their inventory or has any object made with his souls.

>Favorite
Artorias. The presentation is simply awesome and I love the fact that he kills a mook anime style in his intro.
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>>150337171
Store them and get another 99.

>>150337710
w-why did you post the source of my (You) bait
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>DS3 recycled Siegmeyer, EK and tons of other shit from the first game but they didn't bring back the best NPC/set
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>>150337592
I don't trust mushrooms inviting me to poisonous areas.
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Lad, put your sign outside vordt's room

i'll get you there
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Was tumblebuffing patched? I haven't played in a while and wanted to check it out

There's a YT video uploaded very recently that showcases it but it's either been patched since then or I'm just bad
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>>150338016
forgot my pic

aye siwmae
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>>150337936
My google-fu was challenged, luckily twitter exists
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>>150338245
Nobody asked for source desu
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>Unbreakable Patches can be found within the Cathedral of the Deep disguised as Siegward of Catarina. His spawn trigger is to open the main doors, on the left of the boss room, reload the area and then return. You MUST do this before lighting the bonfire at Rosaria's Bed Chamber.
Why is this game full of extremely arbitrary triggers that block me off from doing various things?
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>>150336819
no, you only have to kill one and a cathedral knight
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>>150338389
They're trying to get the galge audience.
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>>150338389
You don't have to reload the area.

t. guy who did it today.

It's weird that you have to open that door though.
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>>150338174
Respond please
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>>150337251
don't summon him then
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>>150336819
>unembered

No one invades there. You can sprint past all the pus or just use the thrall shortcut.
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The Bonewheel Skeletons in DS1 aren't even that hard, like nigga just shoot them with a bow and chop them up when they hit the wall.
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>>150338617
What happens if you're on a melee only build?
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>>150338585
It's not an FC without all the circlejerk members
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>>150338389
That doesn't block you from anything, just a funny cutscene.
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>>150338725
chop them up when they hit the wall.
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>>150338895
What if i have no poise and they touch me?
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>>150337592

Sorry, I'm not dueling with PC players.
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ONE MORE TIME AS A REMINDER IN CAPSLOCK AS WELL AS BEST WAIFU FOR MAXIMUM ATTENTION


http://www.strawpoll.me/10891471


VOTE VOTE VOTE
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>spend an hour grinding for that specific piece of a specific set
>instead I have four duplicates of every other piece of that set

why is this still a thing?
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>>150339040
japanese desire sensor

also can i please have help at vordt he does a lot of damage ;-;
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>>150338016
Anri is what Oscar was originally supposed to be though.
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>>150338982
SEED THE ZOMBIES
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>>150338975
Then you're a retarded faggot who shouldn't be running a no poise build.
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>>150339158
will drop white, pass dsg?
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>>150339287
yes

am on PC too
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>>150339158
im on my way
pls wait
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>>150339040
because the ching chongs like that for some reason
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>>150334893
>Astora
Medieval France more or less. A lot of tradition in knighthood and traditional field combat.

>Carim.
Switzerland. The knights of Carim we see uses unorthodox gear unsuited for cavalrymen, so they probably have easily defendable terrain often not used by horses.

>Thorolund
Snowy Crusader state.

>Catarina
Italy with german placenames and a population that's half dindus and half aryans.

>Volgen
Italian city state.

>Forossa
Another mountainous region, maybe like Balkans.

>Vinheim
They're like the Vatican of sorcery with elements of modern-day Israel in the mix.
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>>150338982
what about distant manor platform?
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>>150339487
Will add in the next poll tomorrow
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>>150339040
I HAVE FOUR FUCKING HATS
I HAVE FIVE FUCKING PAIRS OF GLOVES
I HAVE EIGHT FUCKING TROUSERS
EIGHT
BUT NOT A SINGLE CHEST PIECE

WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME
WHAT
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>>150339663
cock
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>>150339663
pre order season pass
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alright you three, put your signs outside the next bonfire
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>>150339663
Collector's edition
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>DaS2 censors the letters "ho"
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>>150339824
undead settlement or the one before?
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>>150339663
Dude, the robe makes you look as fat as the evangelists. Why would you want that?
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>>150339942
>DaS3 censors "ss"
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>>150340007
high wall foot
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>>150337736
>Anus Watcher
Kek
But nice thoughts
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>>150340072
aight, sign down
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>>150339942
why do I find this image weird?
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>Using CE will get you banned
Tell that to all the fucking Invincible or Invisible fuckers ruining everyone's fun at Aldrich's.
>>
Dark Souls 3 has less enemy variety than Bloodborne.
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>>150340071
What, really?
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>>150340172
looks like plain doll and a knight
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>>150328334
So what's the chronology In DS3?
Who (the 4 Lords) linked the fire first and when did they live? During other the Games? Or between the different Games?
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>>150340241
It only bans you for having impossible stats and items. There's no secure way to detect that kind of cheating in a p2p system.
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>DaS2 combat is slow enough that you can actually heal using miracles

saved my group being a healslut and it feels good
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>>150340241
>fun allowed
>at Aldrich

Someone didn't get the mome
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>>150340307
it makes me SAD
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>>150340497
>impossible items
like what?
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>>150340441
Presumably everything in 3 happened well after both previous games, though considering that 2 took place in a different land, it doesn't necessarily have to have preceded the histories of the DaS3 Lords.

The only hints as to chronology are that Yhorm must have predated Sulyvahn, because the Pontiff's "burning" ambition took "root" after he discovered the Profaned Capital and armed his witches with its fire. The Capital only became "Profaned" when it burned down after Yhorm linked the fire.

Where the Abysswatchers fit in is a mystery, though I suspect they must have been the first of the 3 to link the fire since Aldrich's Deep worship and Yhorm's Profaned Flame both constitute signs of the Abyss that Farron's Legion definitely would not have ignored had they still been around at the time.
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>>150340810
things you can't have too early like key items, specific boss weapons or souls, too many slabs too early, cut content
>>
Alright Berkle, alienbro

signs at halfway fortress next, waiting for ya for the worst fucking NG+7 boss in the game

i pray to god you fuckers have throwing knives and magic stoneplate +2
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>>150341018
>too many slabs too early
I must be banned then
>>
>new playthrough of DS3
>get to the High Wall
>open the door to get to the first bonfire
Holy shit, there we go again. For all it's faults with the replayability, DS3 has the best Souls castle environment level set yet. When you first arrive at the High Wall, you see this huge fucking castle opening in front of you and you think that you get to explore only a fraction of it, but you actually get to explore a huge part of what you see when you enter the game world proper for the first time. You can see the bridge to the homoprinces, you can see the dome of the Grand Archives, you can see the ramparts of the upper castle and I think the bridge which houses the Dragonslayer Armour boss battle. Simply amazing.
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>>150341113
Slabbed items aren't impossible.
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>>150341062
>magic stoneplate+2
im not even in ng+
s-sorry
>>
>>150340591
DeS
>still exists

DS1
>slightly patched

DS2
>99 goes in all fields

BB
>patched

DS3
>still exists
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>>150341113
me too

didn't even leave pontiff yet and I have 20 slabs
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>>150341187
If you look to your right after the first door you can see the entirety of Road of Sacrifices.
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>>150341113
no I mean stupid things like physically having 20 slabs before even beating dancer
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>>150341316
I've been given 600 of every upgrade item except infusion gems and souls of a great champion and embers and I only had reached high wall.
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>>150341187
The attention to detail in the background designs is the best I've seen in any game. You can see all that shit in Irithyll, too, along with the Cathedral and Dungeon.
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>>150341062
Do you keep teleporting? We keep losing track of you
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>>150341250
2 is talking about the saniculars.
So sad they remove the speedrun glitches, but that one was broken in PvP
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>>150340993
>Different Land
But they all linked the same flame, even in other the Games

>Profaned Flame
I did not understand what this is and its origin

Is Lothric just a Fusion of different worlds of the different Lords of Cinders because the flame fades?
Because the Banner of Lothric says, "when the high Wall appeared". Furthermore some parts of the world justvlook like they were put together Just before we arrive, e.g. the bridge at Irythill, everything surrounding Lothric Castle. It even looks like the bridge Just appeared in the middle of Farrons Keep.
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>>150341317
if you look in front of you and up you can see the tower where the two princes are fornicating
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>>150341464
this is bullshit, you can't drop upgrade items/boss souls for other people
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>>150341517
I'm vewry vewry fast

Head to the crystal sage mist curtain, i'll summon you there berkle
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>>150341187
One of my biggest pet peeves is that the scenery from the top of the archives doesn't include any of the areas outside of the high wall. They just used a generic mountain texture for all of the background there, even though you can see the area where the cathedral of the deep and the great bridge and whatnot should be visible, there's just generic mountainface.
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>>150341590
this friend of mine used CE and transformed random items while on the ground and made me pick them up
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>>150341741
enjoy your ban.
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>>150341741
enjoy your safe and fun dark souls 3 experience
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>>150341741
you still wouldn't see them because the changes are client sided.
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>>150341785
meh, whatever, if i get banned i will be freed from this terrible game's pvp, it's not the first time i've been given so many items anyways
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>>150341465
Yeah, the environmental design is top fucking notch. In Irithyll it somewhat bothers me that you have blocky lego models when look down on all of the shit from Anor Londo but it's still super awesome to look back and see all the previous areas you went through to get there. If someone asked me what in my opin8on sets Dark Souls level design apart from other games, I'd nominate that.
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>>150341940
But I got them, please don't make me take a screenshot because I'm about to go to sleep.
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>>150341602
Somebody should make a picture of the Crystal Sage as Meth addict
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>>150342264
or one of those creepy DA pics with the extending limbs/finger crystal treatment
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>>150341659
COTD looks like a blocky lego model even from the Undead Settlement so it would've probably looked like shit.
>>
where next
t. alienbro
>>
>From will never release Souls theme Legos
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ALRIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS

PUT YOUR FUCKING SIGNS AT THE CATHEDRAL OF THE DEEP BONFIRE IT'S ZOMBIE KILLING TIME

PLEASE DONATE SEEDS OF THE GIANT FOR THE FC
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>>150342531
>FROM will never release souls themed dragon dildos
>>
>>150341521
>>150341250
https://youtu.be/T0p8j2IQw9g
>>
is great deep soul any good?
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>>150342610
drop Berke some and I can dupe them for you
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>>150342531
this hurts so much, I want all that cool armour and shit
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>>150342712
it's the opposite of great
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>>150342730
I actually have none
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>>150342712
it's the homing soul arrow of dark souls 3

so yes
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>>150342619
>tfw can't post pics of Anor Londo Sentinel penises
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>>150342712
Shit. 50% of the time it will fly over your opponent's head.
>>
>>150328334
Post your favorite DS related pictures
>>
Any lads at all with Seed of Giant?

If not, I need someone around SL212 to invade me at Cathedral of the Deep for free souls
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>>150334759
>two nigger panthers
Lud and Zallen
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>>150343191
Wtf
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>>150343191
>SL212
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>>150343191
Where do I put the sign? I'll drop two
>>
Deep Sorceries scale exactly like fire if I'm understanding the wiki, do they still get the boosts from candle and crown?
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>>150343191
Do you mean cleansing chapel? I can drop white there for seeds
>>
What are some decent early game weapons for a sorcerer?
I'm ready to fight either the crystal sage or abyss watchers, and while I'm currently using a 2h fire uchigatana it's starting to feel quite underwhelming.
I've got a crystal gem that I could use to infuse something with magic damage and int scaling. Would that be a good idea, or would a raw weapon + buff be better?
If so, what are some decent weapons you can get around this point in the game?
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>>150343557
They get buffs from sorcery rings but not magic clutch so not sure. Just run a test and see.
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hows my fashion lads
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>>150343383
I was unprepared.

I figured the Farron Bridge would get more votes

>>150343490
Cleansing Chapel
>>150343561
Yes
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>>150343620
RAWASS
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>>150343747
So raw it is. What's ass though?
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>>150343620
Get the Dark Hand.
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>>150343836
astora straight sword

>>150343936
or as this anon said, dark hand
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ALRIGHT NIGGERS, GET YOUR RED SIGN SOAPSTONES REVVED UP BECAUSE IT'S TIME FOR THE OFFICIAL CATHEDRAL OF THE DEEP ZOMBIE PIT /dsg/ PC FC

FIGHT YOUR OPPONENT WHILE GETTING GANKED BY RETARDED NG+7 ZOMBIE NPCS
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>>150344050
okay
>>
>>150344050
>PC
Damn
>>
>>150342712

Very underrated spell.

Cast a Great Deep Soul immediately followed by CSS or GHSA or whatever and there is a decent chance one of the two will hit.
>>
>>150344050
signs where nig
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>>150343989
>>150343936
>astora straight sword
But anon that requires 12 faith.
That's 5 levels I could be putting into INT for DAMAGE.
Time to die a bunch and become all mummified so that I can get that midas touch.
>>
What do you guys hope to see in the dlc?
Personally I'd love to see more about the deep and aldia.
I started the series on 2 so it has a soft spot in my heart and I'd enjoy more callbacks to 2 .
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>>150343191
>>
>>150344050
signs where, password what
>>
>>150344417
>>150344395
Password is the same as it is always is nigger

Signs at the Chapel of the Deep Bonfire, follow the Prism stones
>>
Why no flail in ds3?
>>
>>150344375
Deep, Aldia, Londor.

Something that actually wraps up some of the lore.
>>
>>150344050
>host is trapped
>host getting gangbanged by 7 zombies at once
We're off to a good start I see.
>>
>>150344367
>requires 12 faith
respecc once you get MLGS
atleast thats what i did on my mage
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>>150344584
Oh right, I keep forgetting that that's a thing.
Time for ass.
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>there are people at SL 212
D-does that mean I can go to SL 150?
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>>150344050
>>150344510
Drake, you're going the wrong way

Have people place their signs here, no one has to run through 99 zombies that way
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>>150344576
>Drake dies and learns red sign invaders don't give seeds
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Alright lads, make sure you keep fighting and dying so I can get people cycled through this mess

There are a metric shit ton of signs here. I'm actually shocked

Keep your donations coming!
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>>150344810
Look look! >>150344767
>>
What SL are u /dsg/? I'm 135
>>
>The King sunk below the scorching iron, met the one whose name must never be repeated, and became Ichorous Earth.

Who's "the one whose name must never be repeated"? The witch of Izalith?
>>
>>150344752
Well, you always could, but some retards doesn't mean you'll always find people to play
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>>150344767
>>150344856

Noted. Place your signs here. lads.

Try to keep as many fights going on as possible dudes.
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>>150345054
Gwyn i think, since he drops his soul in NG+
>>
Does anyone else see too zombies flailing at people without touching them?
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>>150345235
Yeah it's on my screen too.
>>
>>150345025
121. I was going to stop at 120, but I was already 116 when I realized I needed to level up 5 times for Yuria's quest.
>>
Wait ring of steel protection does nothing in PVP?
W H Y
H
Y
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>>150345290
+2 gives ~3.77% absorption.

>>150345289
Just go to 125
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>>150345290
does it really?
>>
>>150344375
Londor shit.
A Deep DLC with Cthulhuish shit
DS3 version.of Chalice Dungeons
More reason to keep replaying the game.
Maybe some actual NG+ content?
Shrine of Storms 2.0 with a levels having differing states of rain where it's first strong winds with autumn leaves flying and it starts raining and transforms into a thunderstorm and pouring rain.
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>>150331484
Giant Dad build
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>>150345439
>ds3 chalice dungeons

please no they were so fucking boring
>>
P-ps4 FC anybody?
>>
Does it upset anyone else here in /dsg/ that the PvP is utter shit for the supposedly last Dark Souls game?

Really bums me out.
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Holy fuck, this FC location is awesome.

Literally the perfect fucking arena in every goddamn sense of the word.

CAN WE PLEASE GET AN OVERFLOW HOST HERE TO HLEP PLEASE

THIS SCREENSHOT IS TAKEN WITH 5 PEOPLE ALREADY INSIDE
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>>150345659
alright, ill host on the same location aswell.
>>
>>150343246
Lulu and Zulu aare better pet names
>>
>costs 2 slots
>extremely slow
>more mana the great lightning spear

Is there a point to Lightning Storm?
>>
>>150345957
Looks badass
>>
>>150345787
>>150345659
can i only summon like 2 people or is everyone in the fc now?
>>
>Doors of Pharros
>open a trick door
>there's a cartoon dwarf inside it
>open another one
>oh look it's a Primal Knight
What joker designed this area?
>>
>>150346102
I believe you killed Deacons
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>>150346120
You're not supposed to open any of those doors unless you're part of the Rat Covenant.
>>
>>150346202
fuck right
im an idiot sorry
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>>150345235
PSA:
The zombies are not synced between players. I messed around and ended up killing them until they stopped respawning, but I could still see other players getting attacked by invisible zombies that no longer existed on my client.

Poor Bomarrash only lost to me because I was behind 7000 hollows.
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>>150346292
>zombies aren't infinite

Fuck
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Alright guys here's the plan

1v1 Duels will happen in the arena on the left

1v1v1 FFA will happen in the arena on the right with all of the zombies.

If the duel arena is full, hop in the FFA
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local tryhard knight ruins everything

more at 8
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>>150345957
surprises people with the range sometimes
>Storm stagger hit into Sunlight Spear
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>>150346463
W-what?
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>>150346374
The smaller pit with the Executioner's Greatsword eventually stop spawning, but the larger pit is infinite.
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>>150346463
What weapon would you prefer?
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>>150346561
Can you start using the estoc or gundyr's halberd?
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>>150346561
bare fists
naked
dragon form
calamity ring
rafters
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>tfw no paired crossbows with infinite ammo
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>>150346629
Both of those are some of the cheesiest shit imaginable though
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>>150346380
im summoning too, but only 1v1
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>>150346693
People like watching, summon as many as you can
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Is there anyone else with Deacons still alive?
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>thread dies because everyone is having fun again in drake's new FC

god damn bloodborne is definitely not worth missing out on all of the fun PC cucks are having right now ;-;
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>>150346947
cant summon more, summoning only because the other one is overflowing
i can stop if you dont like it though
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Should we refrain from using ring of the evileye for this or astor spear?
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Can 40 faith do decent damage with sunlight spears? I'm thinking of doing a 40/40 strength/faith build.
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>>150347297
That's actually smart as fuck.

Try it out and see how effective it is. If it works too well, I'll soft-ban it.

give this post some (You)s if you like this neat new FC
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>>150347162
>not having a BBDisgaea machine AND a PC
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>>150346679
Sure, but I like a challenge. You won't win against my parry skills.
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>>150347452
Lmao the useless rings finally have their day to shine.

It's probably like 5 health similar to Smoughs ham tbl
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>>150347617
+2 is 80 HP per kill, Arstor's is +24
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Lifehunt Scythe is useful in the FC
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>/dsg/ has makeshift event
>People actually show up
>I'm at work still

mfw
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>>150347452
is it still overflowing or should i stop summoning them for 1v1s
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>>150347869
Nah senpai you're good.

It's still overflowing. All fourteen participants are here still
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Are the demon fists a good pyro weapon?
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What do you lads have to advise about the Carthus Blood and Milk ring combo?
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>>150347431
Combined with the rings it should be pretty good.
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>>150348041
They're a strength weapon

Go 40/25/25 pyro. It's really fun if you're okay with ultra weapons.
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>>150348079
Bloodring is broken, milk ring us a cooler but less useful hunter ring.
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>>150348015
cant find any more signs though
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>>150345121
I'm sorry. I probably seem like an idiot. but i've been running around the cathedral's grounds and cannot find anything that looks like where you're standing
How do you get there?
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These things are usually in all Souls games :
>Patches
>MLGS
>Butcher Knife/Meat cleaver
>4 Knights
>theme of 4 with hidden 5th
>migrating merchant who will sell you stolen/ill gotten goods
>strong enemy who's a fallen knight
>4 knights
>skeletons are the only ones to use falchions
>King, but no Queen(DS2 is a big exception)
>Fire gauntlet
>boss destroys an enemy in their intro cutscene
>a magician whom you rescue from prison

Add your own if you figure more.
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>>150348204
Broken in a good or bad way?
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>>150348237
Literally right after that post it started dying down.

RIP to the Fun Club.

>>150348282
Do you know where the Astora Greatsword is? From the Chapel of the Deep Bonfire, take the first left than you can and then keep following this path to your left.

You'll run up to a drop down. Follow this drop and you'll be on this ledge.
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>>150348310
Depends which end of it you're on.
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>>150348306
big gaping anuses
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>>150348425
literally right after your post 3 signs popped up
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>>150348425
the zombies are actually a huge pissoff
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>>150348310
In a too strong way
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>>150348515
That is the point sir. They're intended to interrupt your fighting and dissuade passivity
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>sound bugs out and Torm's ToD sound byte keeps looping whenever I stand on the summon platform
>go back to the main menu to fix it
>it's still playing in the main menu
Spooky.
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>>150348306
allies
bonfires
a person that seems like a friend but is not a friend and is kind of a cunt
bosses
magic
souls

ooooh the correlations
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>>150348637
Sounds like free meatshields and healing to me.
>>
There you go Johnny, I assume you found the ledge then.
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>>150348515
They're a lot of fun. It's a good chuckle everytime a close fight ends with a zambie smacking someone upside the head, or an intense rally is abruptly interrupted by a puke or grab.
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>>150348310
Depends on your skill at dodging. Late or early rolls will fuck you over HARD, because its 15% extra damage taken, but if you dodge at the right time, it's great.

I don't use it in pve though because I'm not especially good - I expect I'll get hit 3 or 4 times in most boss fights - and if you 're using bloodring, it basically reduces that number by one. Unless of course it takes 2 hits to kill you.
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Naming remains the hardest fucking part of making a character for me.
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the shit fc with only 2 people is down, im trying to get someone to cathedral for some future fcs though
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>>150348739
I know you're making fun of me, but there are specific themes they use in all Souls games.
And of course, some of these mechanics are intrinsic, like if it's a Medieval game, of course there are going to be knights and dragons. But there being specifically 4 knights every time, or the queen being conviently ignored is another thing.
>>
Faaaack why does it have to be storming when fleshy fight pits are going down
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>>150349203
POST RAIN PICS PLEASE

PLEASE OH PLEASE
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>tfw finally ganked warmage meme
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>>150349203

I'm not seeing the relation between the two.
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>>150349003
fantasynamegenerators.com
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>>150349152
That 4 X with a hidden 5th is fucking stupid though going from that one bit of copy pasta that somebody posted the other day
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>>150349203
I like to call them butt zombies.
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>>150348310
It's honestly not that bad, as long as you know what you're doing against it. If you're using it, just roll more.
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>>150349152
The Queen isn't like that. She's never mentioned in 1, appears in two and has significant items about her in 3.

I forgot what the 4 knights are in 2 or 3.
You also forgot crestfallen.
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>>150349634
>50 vig
>less than 40 endurance
>dark sword
>new meta offhand

fuck OFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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>>150349579
>Four-Pronged Plow
>clearly has a fifth, broken prong in the icon
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>tfw too afraid to ce drake to SL802

id love to be mean to people dueling
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>>150349851
Call Vuvuzela
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>>150349808
>wrong
>needing more than 25 and investing the rest in the best stat in the game, vitality
>literally nerfed :^)
>crossbows are good
git gud
srsly though dark sword is not even that good without a stab attack it has nothing on other straight swords except 20 more AR that translates to 6 more damage in game.
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Drake either you got internet problems. or i do
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>>150350116
Literally the only reason why I ever host is because I have half-decent internet fampai
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>>150349985
If you really wanted to be mean you'd drop your level to one and make everyone play vs ng+7 hollows scaled down.
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>>150349634

>Dark Sword
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>>150348946
>>150349634

Right. Bloodborne spoiled me a little for DS3 so I figured that I might as well play to my strengths and utilize the evasive timing I learned from the former game.
>>
Anybody on ps4 willing to help me transfer a weapon between characters?
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>>150350250
:^)
>>
>tfw no +10 arbalest

s-someone donate one to me

t. 212 man
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>people whine about darksword
>when halberds exist
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>>150350882
Halberds are fun as fuck though.
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>>150350882
Dark sword is like the drake sword.
It's not mocked because it's good (though it is), it's mocked because it's the calling card of a new player that just doesn't know any better, and is probably reading a guide.
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>>150349669
Four Knights in 2 are :
Velstadt, LGK, Sir Alonne and the traitor Raime.

In 3 it's trickier since they no longer have 'big' knight characters at least as enemies but the game still has Siegward, Eygon, Anri and Horace.
There's also 4 Abyss Watchers, of which you fight 3 in the first phase and the 4th in Phase 2. There are also 4 Darkwraith enemy spawns in the game and 4 Outrider Knights, then the 5th ambushes you after you've gotten 4 Lords together...

In DaS2 there were also 4 Fire Keepers..
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>>150350882
dsg uses more halberds than ss because they think bigger weapons mean bigger skill.

>>150350986
Press R1 to receive a million hyper armor frames, shockwave frames, 1000 damage combo and fast as fuck swings. Yeah, they're "fun" alright. But Dark Sword is the problem.
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>>150350365
Post PSN lad
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How do I get miracles to not suck ass and be somewhat viable in PVP
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>>150351158
i think youre confusing halberds with glaives man

glaives are pokey-pokey, halberds are smashy shocky
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>strong attacks are stronger if you hold the button
NO FUCKING WAY
I played the game twice
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>>150351054
Doesn't know what? That it's easy as hell to use and does good damage?
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>>150350882
>zone out every non-spear weapon then punish fast ones with HA and HA ones with speed
>roll backwards then go back to passive-reactive mode

They're the sole reason I carry crossbows
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Damn... I missed the opportunity for joining the mound-makers covenant. Basically means I wont be able to get the Bloodlust katana until my next playthrough. Would any of you like to trade if you have it? Just name any other weapon you want. I've got lots.
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>>150349669
Crestfallen was absolutely best in 3. The best telling of a character storyarc of a character that has been in the series since Demon's Souls.
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Is there a way to hide the red tearstone visual effect when using the obscuring ring ? Kinda hard to snipe when they see the red effect from afar
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>triggering a backstab is a liability now
Wow, this game is like a rude awakening to DaS1
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>>150351268

Hello PC friend.
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>>150351251
Oh you meant the cancerous 2 second hitstun 360 tracking thrust halberds? They're also awfully designed, just mash R1 and win trades with leo, and if you trade you can continue your combo. Seems right up /dsg/'s "We hate the meta" alley.
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>>150351616
Claymore too is pretty strong.
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>>150351054
>it's mocked because it's the calling card of a new player
I have 650 hours of playtime, I'm using it ironically.
>>
I'm trying not to sound butthurt
But that place is really cramped as a pvp arena. I don't like it. sorry
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>>150351182
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/62236
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>>150351430
If you didn't fuck up Sirris' quest you can still get it.
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>>150351752
I'm hosting FCs all the time senpai, I'll host another one tomorrow in a different area.
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>>150350697
Where at and what pass? I'll give you TWO.
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>>150351060
>Sir Alonne is now a knight of Vendrick, DS2s Gwyn analog

News to me
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>>150351752
I enjoyed it but I also prefer demon bridge
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>>150351060
Nigga, that's forced as fuck. There are only 3 Watchers, the second phase one is the same that falls. What makes those NPCs knights but not Holy KNIGHT Hodrick or Sirris who was likely a knightress like the one in DaS or Hawkwood not count in your arbritary knight list?

The fifth outrider doesn't even ambush you, even if you do the skip, the final one is always the one chilling in the archives.

There are only 3 fire keepers.
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>>150351752
No one wanted to use the ffa hollow arena sadly.
>>
who here /stoneparma/?
>>
>>150351719
Greatsword hyperarmor is trash, the rollpoke was neutered, and the R2 is almost useless

2H R1 is the only good move
>>
>>150352167
The claymore's 2HR1 is legitimately one of the worst attacks in the game. You don't know what you're talking about.
>>
could someone quick do crystal sage with me?
on pc bonfire crucifixion woods thanks drake, i didnt know this one existed
>>
>the difference between no points in END and 10 points in END is like 20 points of stamina
I might just but them all into vigor and vitality
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>>150351938
Sir Alonne is the knight of Old Iron Nig. But he's still a knight.

In addition, the player can gather 4 Loyce Knights to follow them in the DLC.
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>>150352263
good compared to the rest of the moveset

maybe WD as well
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>>150351910
Tower on the Wall bonfire!

THANKS FOR COMING ANONS

THIS CONCLUDES THE OFFICIAL CATHEDRAL OF THE DEEP ZOMBIE PIT /dsg/ PC FC™

VOTE FOR TOMORROW'S LOCATION
http://www.strawpoll.me/10892610
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>summoned by a pyro
>he spams black serpent for the entire fight
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>hurr the homelands of the lords of cinder are coming together because of the end of the world. that's why Farron keep connects directly to Irithyll connects directly to Profaned Capital
that's such a fucking cop-out
Poorly designed to say the least
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>>150352725
>I'm retarded
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>>150352263
>>150352167
>>150352569
What? it's really good. It has hyper armor and 2hr1 is second to glaive 2hr1. You just don't know how to use it and when. The poking R2 is pretty good too if you space yourself well. You guys just have no timing? The rolling R1 has its uses, you can't spam it obviously.

The running R1 is godly too.
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>>150351182
Good fucking luck. They're not even viable in PvE yet.
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>>150351430
Just do sirris questline. If you've offered any pale tongues to rosaria though, you fucked up. Respec and appearance change don't count.
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>>150352937
>Gnawing not soloing everything but DSA
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>>150351879
I did. She told me to fuck off after I joined the Rosaria covenant.
>>
>>150353090
This.

Dorhys' Gnawing is one of the most powerful, if not THE most powerful co-op spell in-game.
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>>150352870
Being usable doesn't make it good

Taking twice the spacing and timing precision compared to other weapons is a negative

>>150351182
>>150352937
Blessed Weapon, Replenishment, the Sunlight Sword, and Tears are all pretty good in pvp

Med Heal is great for PvE too
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>>150353153
>missing on the coolest armor set in the game

I hope you're enjoying your proper bow faggot
>>
>>150353090
>DSA is weak to dark
>dark spells are shit against him because they do so little fucking damage
It's mind boggling how much they fucked that up
>>
>>150352090
>there are only 3 Fire keepers
Emerald Herald is the 4th one.
Milibeth outright tells you that there were 4 Fire keepers.
You're right in that NPC knights probably don't count.
And even if there are just 3 Abyss Watchers, Hawkwood becomes the 4th.

Although Dark Souls 3 seems to be building a theme about the number 3 :
>3 Hunters
>3 children of Oceiros
>3 Pillars of King's rule
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>>150353197
>med heal
>not great heal

greatheal is literally a 1500 HP heal

>tfw healing doesn't show up green numbers showing the amount healed
>>
>>150353197
It's a negative but it pays off since it has counter damage and hyper armor. You try attacking me and I time my hyper armor well enough and you get fucked. A weapon doesn't need to be good against every OP shit out there, but hyper armor helps. I know what I'm talking about, I've been using it a lot lately.
>>
Wait, Divine Pillars of Light scales of a Chime/Talisman's spell buff like normal, right?
>>
>there will never be a boss that we can only defeat by healing it

holy fuck has this ever been done before in any game?
>>
>>150353181
Hidden Body is the most powerful. Turns the game into a joke.
In terms of damage, gnawing spam isn't as good as GHSA or CSS spam. Sorc delivers damage equivalent to bleed every spell, whereas dorhy's gnawing does not proc bleed every cast.
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>>150353453
No because that's a fucking stupid idea
>>
>>150353453
yes
WoW
>>
>>150353453
hopefully not because that idea is retarded
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>>150353453
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>>150353453
Myth : The Fallen Lords and Myth 2 : Soulblighter.

Heal kills all enemies tagged as 'undead' instantly and both of the bosses are classes as undead.
>>
>>150353561
Is thereany area in the game you can't sprint through even without hidden body? You can dodge the archers and jailers by just running
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>tfw you use "spread out" to hide yourself on top of a ledge, so you can wait for the host, roll out of it, plunging attack
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So my covenant symbol has to started to glow sometimes after I joined the Darkmoon guild. What does it mean?
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>painted world of ariamis

holy shit

how am I supposed to kill the skeleton wheel guys? I can't see anything in the sewers because there's no torch, and the skeletons only show up in narrow hallways. I either dodge out of the way and miss the moment to hit them, or get rolled into and stunned and lose the majority of my hp. Is there a strategy to it?
>>
>>150353965
Shield with good stability and a lot of stamina.
>>
>>150353965
Yes.
Run inside, find the switch, use homeward bone, never look back.
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>>150353965
full havel's

anyone wanna co-op inna irithyll dungeon? i hate this place
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>>150353453
There are several undead bosses in Final Fantasy games that take damage from healing spells and die instantly if you use a Phoenix Down (revive) on them.
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>>150353965
dodge, run after the direction they went, hit them while they turn around which takes a few seconds
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>>150353842
I would say that's far more difficult than it sounds. I've tried that a couple times and it's easy to get overwhelmed and killed.
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>>150353940
The Covenant is trying to get you autosummoned.
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will you abuse crow?
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>>150354106
PC? Sure. Password?
>>
>invade at the high wall
>two guys cosplaying as Ornstien & Smough fighting invaders
damn. I wish I had friends
>>
>>150354156
It's rather easy if you are not fighting the enemies and know what you wish to loot, I feel like so at least, since most encounters have various ways around.
>>
>watchdog of Farron invades
>instead if attacking me he hides behind one of the big fuckers roaming the swamo
>It's been like this for 20 minutes no
Fuck From
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>>150353940
It glows whenever you're not being summoned.
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>>150354442
Do you have any idea how long it takes for summons? Do you have any idea how salty he'd be if you just walked into CS's boss room?
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>>150354183
So I just keep waiting? It's been doing this for a while now but nothing has happened.
>>
>>150354106
Phillip's CD-I? Sure. Password?
>>
>>150354365
>tfw no Souls friends to co-op as the 3 hunters with
>>
>>150352496
>DS1s four knights are Ciaran, Gough, Artorias, and Ornstein, all knights of Gwyn
>DS2s four knights are LGK, Raime, Velstadt, and Alonne for some arbitrary reason according to you when there are a host of other knights related to Vendrick

Here, let me elucidate you:
Raulmond, a knight of Vendrick (named in the First/Second/Third Dragon Ring)
Syan, a knight of Vendrick (named on his fucking armor)
The Throne Watcher
The Throne Defender
Drummond arguably

The Watcher and Defender have way better claim than Sir Alonne along with every other name on this list you mong
>>
>>150354242
>>150354561
PC, dsgcoop
>>
>>150354183
>>150354524

Am I being summoned or not? Which is it?
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>>150354213d
How come all of the crows go after brutes instead of the supreme gentlemen such as myself?
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>>150354398
Yup, that sounds about right.
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>>150354636
Sign's down by bonfire.
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>>150354558
The faggots using estus too. There should be an item that lets u get rid of invaders after 7 minutes or something. This is just time wasting
>>
>>150354106
What SL?
>>
>>150354213
>tfw you will never be abused
>>
>>150354937
Password co-op ignores it, but I'm 62
>>
>>150355071
I was going to invade
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>>150354636
At the bonfire
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>>150352594
Putting down my sign.
>>
>wanted to fuck around with shortbow
>you can only get a shortbow from greirat when he returns from his first trip
>on ng+ and just trying to rush through shit so i killed him
love...... this...... epic...... game....
>>
>>150355197
>>150355237
I got tim

who else?
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>>150355298
GIT GUD CASUL
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>only a 20% boost
Holy shit why do they keep nerfing it every game
>>
>>150355298
>he didn't buy everything on his first playthrough
>he killed Greirat for no fucking reason
>>
>>150352594
Didn't get to attend, but I'm glad someone used that zombie pit
I came across the safe ledge and thought it would be a wonderful idea awhile ago but I haven't made a new character in forever (wanted to use the ToD skip..) so I never bothered with having the area available
>>
>>150354442
>>150354907
You have everything to your advantage, use a seed, if you don't have any just pelt them with arrows or anything ranged, you can endlessly summon phantoms and equip the blueberry covenant, or run to the boss since crossing the fog door is literally instant now
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>>150355298
>rush through ng+ by killing npcs
What did he mean by this.
>>
>>150354703
It's trying to get you summoned.

It will never work though.
>>
>>150353409
yes
>>
>>150354907
You don't even need to fight him or anything, stop bitching.
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>>150355468
because swapping to it when you're low hp is some of the most cancerous shit
>>
Arbalest requesting 212 man still here?
>>
I've played this game twice and DaS 3 times and every single PVP encounter i'm in I thouroughly and totally humiliate myself
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>>150355969
Hot
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>>150355298

>he didn't buy all the useful shit on his earlier playthrough
>''rushing through the game'' means grabbing a key, going back where you came from, and killing an NPC
>>
>>150355419
>>150355527
>>150355685
>>150356160
>defending shit souls 3
holy fuck
>>
>>150353409

I see. That's unfortunate, since I wasn't planning on going beyond 30 Faith. But I guess Divine Pillars will deal shit damage with that amount.
>>
>>150356287
>defending being a retard
lol
>>
>>150354942
this is like saying "tfw you will never throw all your money away"
abuse isn't a joke which makes those that willfully subject themselves to it that much hotter
>>
>>150355804
>>150353409
>>
Yhorm's greataxebro, are you going to put another sign down by the bonfire or?

Tim, I'm going to resummon you at the profaned capital bonfire
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>>150356559
I slapped it down in the big rat room next to the jailer clusterfuck room.
>>
I blame not having done any meaningful work in the past week on this game
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>>150356309
not sure about pve but pvp i average 150-200 with 30 faith atm but am planning on going to 50ish, though id assume you wouldnt get more then 300 out of a beam.
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>>150356645
Shit, I literally just saw it the second you posted that.

we're here now
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Alright lads, just going to refresh my estus and buy some anti poison shit
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>>150356309
it will do shit damage regardless. only good as an predictable bait finisher
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Why do you guys hate ring swapping? I thought you liked efficiency.
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>>150356559
I haven't gotten to the Profaned Capital on Tim yet so it might be a while
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>>150357465
Alright, we'll go clear out the lower capital then.
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>>150357318
Got room for one more?
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>>150357668
Yeah, put your sign up by the profane capital bonfire
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>that convoluted explanation of poise
jesus christ what were they thinking
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>>150358115
poise exists?
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>>150358207
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_07Q1g-sdJ0

What was Hyper Armor in das2 is now poise in das3. It's so convoluted it needed a 38 minute video to illustrate it.
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>>150358115
>how can we be more like bloodborne but in the process make several weapon classes completely trash and armor completely useless?
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Am I retarded for using a dark man serpent hatchet on my pyro build?
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>>150358410
No you're just retarded
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>want to make a Hodrick cosplay
>flamberge is hell to farm
>set only after Aldrich
>30 fucking faith
>30 shackles
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>>150358528
You don't know pain until you tried a complete Eygon cosplay
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>>150358528
its actually 25 nerd

dont fucking name yourself hodrick you unoriginal fuck. be like "Grandad" or something
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>>150358796
You can complete it by the cathedral though
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>>150358796
>kill eygon
>wear his stuff
Sure is difficult.
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glad i got one of every item in the game, wish i could drop spells for people
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>>150358796
I didn't mind leveling up with STR/FTH until i could grab the armor without killing him myself
the equip load investment is the part that hurts
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>>150358884
That's Parry Grandpa for you.
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>>150358889
>>150358957
Its not getting the equipment. Its the cosplay itself.
>33 Vit just to fatroll
>50 STR
>30 Fai
>Using a greathammer class weapon
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>>150358528
What are shackles?
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>get parried during a true combo
gee its really like god is shitting in my fucking face please kill me lol
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>>150359143
Don't cosplay as such a terrible character. Only good thing about Eygon is his lovely voice.
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>tfw dragonslayer crescent axe

i think i just broke das2
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>>150354626
>you mong
lolololol
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>>150359143
31 vit with NG+2 rings ;^)
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>>150359216
Have you never been a purple?
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>>150358207
It's been confirmed with CE
In laymen's terms:
Everybody has 100 poise
The poise stat from armor and rings is Absorption, and functions identically to other ABS stats, reducing incoming damage by a % equal to the amount you have.
Any time you're hit, you take poise damage which subtracts from the 100.
As long as you have more than 0/100 poise left, hyperarmor works. If your poise reaches 0, it instantly resets to 100 but if it hits 0 during active hyperarmor, that hyperarmor breaks.
Most weapons and attacks only gain hyperarmor at all if you have at least 0.1 poise from equipment. Ultras, as well as some choice weapon arts, have hyperarmor even without poise from equipment.

Hyperarmor attacks have a modifier during hyperarmor that influences how much poise damage they take. This is similar in concept to how you only took half poise damage during hyperarmor in DaS2. For example, the 2HR1 of a claymore has a 1.5x modifier. If you have 100 poise (eg. full poise "health") then your 100 turns into 150 during your hyperarmor, and then back to 100 when HA ends. Every HA attack has its own value modifier that impacts how easy it is to break that attack's hyperarmor. Ultras all only have a 1.0 modifier on all of their attacks (excluding stomp and full charged R2s). Curved Greatswords, enigmatically, have a 0.5x modifier on their attacks, cutting their effective poise in half during hyperarmor and making them the easiest to break.

Poise regenerates to full 30 seconds after the last instance of damage taken or instantly if it reaches 0. It does not matter if it reaches 0 during hyperarmor or not, any and all damage counts against poise and can refill it if it hits 0. There's no way to track how much poise you have remaining or if your poise has refreshed from a hit, and no clear data on poise damage from various weapon and attack types.
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>>150359087
Extremely

I'm levelling my pyro right now senpai
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What should I do before going to NG+? Already killed yorshka for her chime I'll never use.
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Wew, sorry witch

I summoned you before resting at the bonfire

Are you coming jotun?
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>>150359585
Do a painting guardian cosplay and pvp
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>>150359537
>It took us 4 months to find this out
working as intended
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>>150359537
>The poise stat from armor and rings is Absorption, and functions identically to other ABS stats, reducing incoming damage by a % equal to the amount you have.
Correction: reduces incoming POISE damage by a %

So for example if you have 20 poise, then you take 20% less poise damage from enemy attacks. Poise "health" is always a pool of 100 that decreases every time you're attacked, but the amount of poise damage you take is mitigated by the poise stat you gain from equipment.
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>>150359537
does perseverance have anything to do with this
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>>150359701
Why?

Also adding to that, I have 5 sigils from the hollowing quest, Will I meet Yuria in NG+ without levelling up with Yoel?
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>>150359413
Oh those. I forgot they even existed since they're useless.
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>>150359845
You asked for something to do, now do it.
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>>150358575
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DRAKE THE POISEKING WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG

>>150359537
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>>150359990
You and I both know that won't end well.
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Fun co-oping with you ParryBro. Glad to get that section out of the way for ya.
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>>150359364
try blacksmith's hammer
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>>150359843
Apparently regular perseverance (eg. everything that isn't a greathammer) does not interact with poise at all, whatsoever. It's its own, completely independent buff of unstaggerability.

Greathammer perseverance basically just turns on hyperarmor for a set period of time. For some reason it's straight up worse than perseverance on everything else.
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>>150355468
Gotta stack it with Morion Blade for it to work, fAm.
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>>150359537
Even if this is true, poise is still basically worthless.
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>>150360071
Git gud.

Actually, why are all the chain/spin attacks in this game garbage? With the exception of BKG. It's so frustrating using dancer's blades or painting guardian curved sword and doing shit damage with full combos.
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Holy fuck this means the wolf ring is really fucking good.

+2 gives twenty fucking percent poise absorption. If you're running 50 poise your effective hyperarmor effectiveness is increased by double holy shit

I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG MOTHERFUCKERS
NEW META
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/62251
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/62251
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/62251
NEW META
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>>150360185
Maybe because the perseverance for greathammers isn't supposed to be for countering.
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>>150360706
Other curved swords and gotthards have good spins
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>>150360757
glaives are now broken
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>>150360784
What is it supposed to be used for?
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>>150360821
Apparently testing found that glaives have 1.5x modifiers on their 2HR1s, just like greatswords.
They're literally the strongest R1 HA in the entire game.
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>>150359537

Why would anyone come up with such a system. It doesn't make any sense.
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>>150360757
NEW MURAKUMO POISE BUILD

>>150360863
Equip a weapon that has perseverance, go to catabombs of carthus bonfire and walk a few steps. See that ball of skeletons? Use perseverance. Yes, that's right. It goes through you.
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>>150360757
the more poise you have the less poise you get from the wolf rings. you want yhorms shield
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>>150360475
I don't think anyone's arguing otherwise.

It's just amazing that From actually implemented such an insanely convoluted mechanic while making it so useless that it has no effect on gameplay 99% of the time and players actually believe it just doesn't exist.

It's like they "hid" poise in the game code for us to find just for the sake of finding it. Like it was supposed to be some mythical secret like Mew under the truck, except it actually turns out to be real.
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>>150360952
I know. Glaives are the faggiest weapons in this game and every glaive faggot should off themselves
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>>150360983
Just as Miyazaki intended.
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>>150355298
>its the games fault i fucked up
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>>150361042
Poise has diminishing returns

you can't go above like 70% poise reasonably.

If Glaives have the strongest hyperarmor they need to be nerfed then
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>>150361050
That's a pretty good way to explain it, actually.
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>Pickup the game finally

>Character creation

This is grim. Every build has wasted luck points.

But that's minor. The fucking creation options are shit as fuck. Where are all the god damn hairstyles. Why the fuck is hair colour 255 fucking middle grey and not white? Why does the face in character creator have way better graphics then what is ingame.

There's no excuse for such a tiny amount of hairstyles and shit. Most of them look terrible, all of the girl ones are awful.

Bloodborne was a good upgrade, this is a downgrade from that.
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>>150361056
Hey fuck off Bardiche is a pretty cool weapon it's not its fault that the game is SHIT!
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Wait where r u guys? I'm at the graveyard but there's no summon signs or anything. Im SL 135 is that too high? Or do I have to kill the deacons first
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>>150361050
>I don't think anyone's arguing otherwise
>literally ignoring the 30 shitposts by drake
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>>150361050
>mfw DS3 poise is what everyone hoped discovering what the Pendent did would be like.
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>>150361303
There's no FC going on right now.
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>>150361426
>that moment when someone parries you and you wait anxiously to see if they have hornet or not
Holy shittt
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>>150360757
Yes, but, how on earth are you going to survive the hits? This is during Hyper Armor, you know. It doesn't save you from times when you're hit before, or after, and defense doesn't really work that hard at all. It's not Iron Flesh Perserverence defense stacking, you're effectively naked.
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>>150361212
From's character creator is the worst. It still boggles my mind that changing the face's shape also changes the textures, as well as 30 other unrelated facial features.

On don't get me started on trying to make a face look halfway normal.
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>>150360813
Carthus spins are shit. Wardens was good, but got nerfed to shit. Curved wolf greatsword is absolute trash now, and regular curved greatswords have costs way too high to be worth the damage.
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>>150360757
Friendly reminder that because iframes do not influence poise damage detection or calculations, just like status effects, rolling through enemy attacks in pvp can incur poise damage.

If you can isolate the memory location of your current poise "health" with CE (you'd have to DIY because the reddit faggot that did this won't release his table) and view it while fighting, you can strategically roll when your poise is low to turn it over and refresh it back to 100 without ever taking damage, making any poise from equipment completely irrelevant since you can refresh it at will.

This also means that when facing weapons with spammable, running attacks that can pressure you with impunity (eg. katanas, curved swords) you can never confidently swing and expect hyperarmor to work, since you can't see your poise value without CE and are losing poise every time you safely roll an attack, with a rollover back to 100 that happens at some point you can't determine or track.

Also, headshots consistently break hyperarmor, suggesting they either have a guaranteed poisebreak property against anything that isn't stomp, or that they simply do insanely boosted poise damage. Any weapon with vertical or diagonal attacks can headshot.
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>>150360757
Will this make greatshields actually have hyper armour on attacks now or still be useless?

Bonewheel shield is literal shit because of this. Slow as fuck attacks with 0 hyper armour. What's the damn point.
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>>150361694
Fucking hell, what was so bad about "heavy armour makes you slow and roll like a fatty but you don't have to worry about not winning trades"?
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>>150361931
Greatshield attacks have block frames late in their animations. Their running attacks are fucking god-tier, and would be meta were it not for their mediocre damage.
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>>150361595
>Doing really well in a fight get them to a 3rd of their health while im at about 4/5ths
>they parry once and fuck the other 80%


In other topics, I would like to use this regen build I scraped together but feel bad everytime I buff myself 3 times so I usually just dont gimping myself.
>>
WITNESS
YOUR
NEW
MASTER
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>replay dark souls 2 again because a bit burned out of 3
>it's still absolute dog shit

Oh well.
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Anyone have a plow, evangelist gloves/boots, and spiked mace they want to trade/give to me? I've got BOSS WEAPONS and souls n such to trade

high wall bonfire
pass: dsg
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>>150362107
Regen buffstacking is pretty mediocre anyways because the buffs don;t last long and waste most of their effectiveness while you still have full health.

The chime weaponart is fast enough to use in battle if your opponent gives you any space. it's about as fast as a chug and regens about as much HP over the duration, but requires that you don't swap out the chime or 2H for the entire duration. If you want a regen build, just swap to a chime and WA after you've taken some damage
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>when you in riposte status but she still R1-ing
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>>150362309
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>>150361050
But I said poise was working ages ago. I knew it had to do with hyper armour because I was legit having weapon arts interupted sometimes and other times I'd get to do the full amount.

The most obvious weapon for this is the Winged Knight Halberd.

It's weapon art is a big chain spin. Basically, you start doing it on some unstaggerable game enemy, and they hit you during it, where you should be in constant hyper armour for the duration of the swingspam, you'll suddenly get knocked out of it by one of their attacks.

It only happened every now and then, so I shrugged it off as "some shit". Well now I know, it's because poise recharges and so on and so forth so at times it perceives that it works and doesn't all at the same time.

I think this system is stupid. They should've instead had poise govern an extra damage reduction %.

Like say, you have 80 poise, the game carries the decimal point and you get 8% extra damage reduction across the board. I think that would go a ways to make heavy armour more lucrative.
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>>150362123
WITNESS me actually posting the image
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>>150361650
When are all these dev's going to steal the korean mmo character creators.
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>>150362430
i love this
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>>150362148
Why is DS2 bad? Asking as someone new via DS3 and planning on playing the previous games.
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Why are all the fun weapons shit?
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>>150362430
ew
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>>150362608
if theyre shit theyre not fun to play with
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>>150362291
I stack the weapon art with BS, sun p. ring, anris sword, and blessed weapon buff. And I use both llyods rings since my health will keep getting topped off. Its decent but I hate looking at the other player while I spend 20 seconds buffing.
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The game isn't mostly passive anymore. It's a mix of passive and aggression. That is how poise is balanced in this game. It enables you to be MORE aggressive, because you can rely more on your hyperarmor, knowing it wont get broken as much. This lets you power through enemy attacks to get a momentum advantage.

If you aren't happy with that, this isn't your game. I empathise with you, I really do, I've been disappointed by a sequel to a game i loved changing the mechanics on me before , but you can't expect them to overhaul the entire game design now. It's not a realistic expectation.
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>>150362648
t. Dark sword user
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>>150362430
THE MURAKUMO FOREST HUNTER TIMES HAS RETURNED
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>>150362702
deluded holow bastard
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>>150362430
Friendly reminder that mugenmonkey doesn't display the diminishing returns of poisestacking correctly. You'd actually get less than 50 from that setup.

Also friendly reminder that curved GS have 0.5x poise modifers on all of their HA attacks, actually reducing the effectiveness of your hyperarmor by 50%
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>>150362430
Just use a glaive, retard.
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>>150362587
Personally? I just really hate some of the zones, it looks kinda ugly compared to ds1 and especially 3, the animations feel a bit janky most bosses are really forgettable.

that isn't to say I don't like certain elements, I REALLY like a few of the bosses (Veldstadt, Fume, Ivory king) some of which are legit contenders for being some of the best bosses in the series. But the game as a whole is just bad.
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>>150362932
that's why he needs all that poise for the murakumo
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reminder to spread this shit like wildfild
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I love losing to someone because I took damage before his weapon swung. Did I say love? I meant hate so much i want to hurt him irl lol
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>>150362932
>>150362985
WITNESS ME AND BE BAITED
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>>150363039
When you say hurt like that it gets me pretty bothered downstairs.
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>>150363035
http://imgur.com/a/1isBx
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>>150363196
you get off to shit like that? youre not even worth licking my boots
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>>150363035
Why? If poise is still pointless, knowing this doesn't change anything.
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>>150362702
Hyper Armor is piss easy to work around. It wouldn't matter if it was unbreakable 100% of the time. That was never the issue.

The issue is that you can still be staggered whenever HA isn't active, and that won't change until real poise is added or they massively extend the HA frames on all weapons.
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>>150363179
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>Iron round shield in ds1 is a medium shield
>Iron round shield in ds3 is a small shield

So much for my shiva cosplay
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>>150363179
Even anon is afraid.
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>>150363378
fuck off cretin
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>all these retards thinking poise is viable now
>they'll all be crying again in a week after CCS/Estoc/Gotthards reks them regardless
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>>150363984
Actually hyper armor is a pretty good counter to gotthards.
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>>150364057
You gonna have to hit some pretty crazy numbers to trade with leo l1
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>>150364338
Yeah something like that
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best game every. Love the part where i hit someone while he is swinging and he gets to roll out without taking a hit. awesome, love doing no damage thanks myazaki
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Ahh, you were at my side all along
My true mentor, my guiding poiselight!
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All this new information about poise is fucking incredible.

The fastest hyperarmor-enabled attack in-game is currently the greatstance stance R1. It's virtually instantaneous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwuIEBswp7Y demonstration.
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>>150364338
Most HA weapons actually extend HA well outside of the thrust counter window in both directions. If adequately timed, you can trade into bullshit like gotthards without giving them the leo thrust counter bonus. Or, I guess it's less about timing and more about luck. Either way, the leocounter isn't consistent when HA trading.
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>>150364586
>I have shit internet but blame it on From
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>>150364674
>greatstance

Please explain.
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Any of you poor souls still suffering and playing ds3 I just wanna let you know that there's DS1 and it's better in every way you should check it out
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>>150364915
im honestly way too fucking unterested and lazy to learn how to deal with backstab tech souls

i actually despise that kind of fighting aesthetically. it's so goofy and unfun
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>>150364674
>you can trade with someone with the stance R1 by just walking up to them and using it
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>>150364915
Just went back to play it. Feels clunky. Empty environments just like 2 makes it kinda lame. Bosses are ds2 tier to be frank. Just hug the side and roll.

I'll stick with bloodborne and 3
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>>150364674
Unfortunately, GS stance R1 does about as much damage as a standard R1 and can't combo so it loses out to a lot of stuff in a trade.
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>>150365272
alright I usually don't tell people how to git gud with bs but I'm feeling generous so I will tell you this once time how you can beat any backstab fisher in the world

walk the same direction as them at a slightly wider arc and rb a half count before you'd meet at the middle, you are now equipped with the ultimate ds1 backstab technique
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>Made a quality character
>Just so happens quality is perfect for cosplaying since you can use any enemy weapon
>Most enemies in DS3 that drop their sets are hollows
>No ring that functions similar to untrue dark ring, but only effects phantom color, showing my zero time in character creation for this guy, plus shitting up the cosplay

Life is suffering
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>>150365443
I'd usually take the time to explain why you're opinion is so wrong, I'm gonna skip on that this time but I want to be clear with you that you are a pleb
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>>150365485
it's not just the difficulty anon

i don't like how it looks. it's so unappealing. this shit is a spectator sport for the player. i have no interest in teleporting to my opponents' back and running him through lengthwise with a fucking scythe

it is so pathetically boring
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Hahahahahaha
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>>150365485
What's rb?
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Is Onikiri and Ubadachi shit? I either want to be a shitty buttstabbing thief with the bandit's knife or an edgy faggot with lmao2kat.
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>>150365752
Anon yesterday said it was great for bleed builds.
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>>150365656
But it's not boring, boring is ds3 where at any moment a guy is free to roll spam away and without fear of punish chug right in your face

Ds1 is better in every way but just the fact that when you're invading a guy and he's low and you're in his face he either needs to make a good play to be able to heal or he can panic chug and get backstabbed like a motherfucker. That same faggot panic chugging in your face gets to do so with no negative recourse in 3 and that;s fucking gay
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>>150365695
You can do this with SoC too.
Why do people even invade there?
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Is duplicating cracked eye orbs in DS1 considered "cheating"?

I just want to invade while still being in the Chaos Servant covenant
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>>150365861
i dont invade so this doesnt interest me either

i dont really care about killing some pve babbies

im too busy tryharding at pontiff to give a single fuck about dead souls one
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>>150365910
As long as you're not using real cheats, the game needs more invaders
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>>150365752
2kat is very stronk. The WA is overpowered and very abusable and the paired attacks do a tonne of damage. You can combo regular R1 into L1 for like 5-600 damage combos and can combo into and off of the WA for explosive 1k+ damage. The paired attacks are all trash besides the standing L1s and the WA, but the R moveset is great.
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>>150365910
The covenants are piss easy to farm. I just join dickwraiths, max my storage cap, then give humanity back to chaos servants.
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>>150365903
I dunno. I usually fight these guys but that guy was just running away from me trying to pull me to the mobs instead of just fighting me, and then he came after me when his furry friend came up. So I just booked it to the fog door and I'm still there while they're still waiting outside as CE reports.
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>>150365980
It's a free country so I suppose that's your prerogative but personally I find your taste disgusting
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>>150364793
oh yea having over 20mbps its totally my fault
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>lose eleven duels in a row
>all good duels against excellent opponents
>no meta weapons

im going to fucking kill myself if i dont get one fucking win
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PC FC WHERE
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>>150365910
you can by cracked orbs from kathe without having to be in the covenant. You just have to give him the lord vessel and have the abyss bonfire
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>>150365910
There's no anti-cheat of any kind in DaS1, so go nuts.
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Axe kicks in DaS1 do poise damage according to this: http://darksouls.wikidot.com/poise

Has anyone demonstrated it being used in PvP?
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>>150366237
6 hours ago in the zombie pit

like 18 hours from now in whatever location wins this poll

http://www.strawpoll.me/10892610
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/dsg/, how the fuck do I use this fucking thing?

I cannot, for the life of me, figure out how to get good with it.
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>>150366597
Start by throwing it away and using the estoc
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>>150366019
>The WA is overpowered

What the fuck? You mean the thing that makes you float in the air for 2 seconds? I've literally never landed that in PVP. Is there something I'm not getting?
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are there any fashion souls sites that actually work and have all the armor? Looking for DaS2. Need to find out if getting the Mirrah Hat is worth it
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>>150366728
yea it lands a 1600 damage combo
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Busy day today. How is /dsg/? FC shitters needn't apply.
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>>150366728
The entire animation has an invisible hitbox around your body that staggers whatever it touches, holding them down until the attack connects. This hitbox becomes active instantly, as you leave the ground. The whole attack also has very strong hyperarmor that allows you to use it on-reaction to trade with many attacks and leading into a 1k damage combo as a punish.
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>>150366379
http://www.strawpoll.me/10892610

Why not Anor Londo?
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>>150367101
Consider your post a vote
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Is there a complete set of frame data for DaS3 attacks?

Best I could find was:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HebtulqF41iLC4jQQHyKejrReK5V9DmBdPdp9ZVHk3s/edit#gid=421385370

But it's missing some weapon classes that I care about.
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why are greatswords in dark souls 3 cursed with those shitty vertical strikes when twohanded?
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I'm at SL 135 should I go to 140?
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>>150367369

Why not just go to 387?
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>>150367313
greatsword 2h r1s have the earliest active and strongest hyperarmor frames in the game
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>>150367369
Might as well go to 212. It's the meta for /dsg/ FCs.
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>>150367497
they are rollstab on reaction bait
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>>150367031
Going 'swell. Thank you for asking
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>>150367497
Many WAs have earlier HA and many attacks have stronger HA.
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>>150367468
>>150367537
Plz no memes .
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>>150367723
levels do not matter, at all. im not joking, its not a meme, you can level till you cant anymore and its ok, at no point do you ever need to be worried about your fucking level. youll get invaded at 250, you can invade at fuckign 300. its fine.
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>>150367369
You can still get matched with meta shitters at 140 so you're gucci
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is there some kind anon outthere who will lend me their Darkmoon Blade (miracle) for the fucking achievment, thanks in advance, currently on Great Belfry Ng + 3. I just need the miracle and a Covetous Gold Serpent Ring+2 to have all achievments.
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>>150367825
I don't wanna go that high
>>150367985
Ok thank u
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>>150367313
That attack is good with hyper armor.
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>equip wolf ring +2 after reading all this poise shit here
Oh god, now I understand. This is fucking incredible, the difference is actually pretty damn noticeable.
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>>150367993
sorry anon, but miracles, boss souls, and titanite cannot be dropped. Same go for covenant items.
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>>150368296
Yeah. I didn't need Life Ring anyway.
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>>150368416
Fortunately I had a spare ringslot on this build so I can fit it without messing up the holy trinity of life/chloranthy/fap.
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>>150368296
>poise becomes the new flavor of the month meta
>/dsg/ shitters will complain that it's OP and cry for nerfs
>all while it still does practically nothing
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>>150368296
This.

I tested morne's hammer AOE blast with the wolf ring and you can definitely do it with near 100% immunity to being fucked out of it
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>>150368354

fuck this fucking piece of shit farm fucking miracle shit+

thanks anon
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>>150368610
>meanwhile cats are still better than dogs and From won't fix it
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>>150368582
What is fap
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>>150368618
Morne's WA literally has 100% immunity to stagger under every ciorcumstance, even with 0 poise. It's literally perseverance with an attack component, it has nothing to do with poise.
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>>150368715
Favor and Protection
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If someone were to make a DaSalike, what would you want to see in it? More plot? Enemy variety? Farming? Bosses that actually fucking talk to you instead of holding a blind hatred?
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>>150368804
Dark Souls could be way, way better if it wasn't made by From. It's a shame there's not a single good company interested in making a game like it.
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>>150368736
nah dude, I'm not even that anon but I get staggered out of morne's WA all the time

I usually use it as R1 spam punish but it doesn't work all the time.

i haven't gotten a wolf ring yet but when I do I'll be very happy
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>>150368804
None of the above.
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>>150368895
Trolling attempts should be subtle.
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>>150368792
Ah, thank you
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>all this new poise shit

Huh. Guess we know why hyperarmor doesn't always work then. Good to know I suppose.
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NEW THREAD

>>150369228
>>150369228
>>150369228
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>>150368296
What the fuck? They fixed poise?
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>>150368804

I'm still waiting for a spinoff of Souls games that isolates the PvP elements and builds exclusively around them.
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