/fog/ - Fallout General

>>150317479
first for four is not good

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>>150317715
4 is pretty much the new Brotherhood of Steel.

>>150318418
I honestly cannot think of a bigger blunder in gaming than 4.

>>150318509
Spore

>>150318418
Not by a long shot

>no vault related water purifier in the DLC
fucking dropped

>>150317479
How do I move named settlers like the ones at Tenpines bluff to other settlments?

>>150319032
>no vault related water purifier in the DLC
Except that big ass Vault-Tec water purifier that gives you 100 water in the cave

>>150318685
It's a serious deviation from the series' themes and gameplay, and was produced by people who don't really understand Fallout. I'd say it's a fitting analogy

>>150319262
can build more of them?
no
no you can't

>>150317854
I take it that the showers are mods?

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Fucking Sheffield.

>>150319470
????

>>150319470
NUKA........COLA!!!!!!!

>>150319470
he said that nuka cola gives him clarity
maybe he was a martial arts master before becoming an alcoholic

>>150319271
>It's a serious deviation from the series' themes
Except its not, its a game where we see humans rebuilding in a post nuclear world and getting into ocnflict over ancient ideals such as reousrces, racism, slavery, etc. etc.

>and gameplay
Its literally Fallout 3/NV if the shooting mechanics didn't suck ass.

> and was produced by people who don't really understand Fallout.
>these meme
Yeah, because Tim Cain, Chris Avellone, and all the others who have said otherwise are all just big liars huh?

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>>150317854
>not using freecam
>not disabling headbob
>not disabling motionblur
>fountain has lower texel density than everything else in the room
>fountain doesn't match up with anything else
>fountain provides safety hazard
>poster of old-world museum exhibit in vault
>advertisment for pre-war beverage in bathroom
>out of place clock in bathroom
>water cooler in bathroom
>no lockers or spaces for personal belongings of those in showers
>toilets in shower stalls
>laundry facility in bathroom
>sensitive robotics equipment stored in bathroom
>rusty poster frames in bathroom
>rusty and filthy clock in bathroom
>rusty and filthy decor in a room with a sign advocating for cleanliness

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nth for please God let Nuka World be good.

I turned on my recently completed pc and installed games I was sure I'd play, and came across Wasteland 2 with the director's cut. I installed loaded it up because I've been on a fallout kick and thought it might be worth a replay, now I can't stop, but I've honestly only seen about 4 wasteland threads in 4 years.

Do people not like that game?

>>150320026
The Pitt 2: Electric Boogaloo

>>150320026
>its about re-establishing the raider king
>you don't get to be the raider king only you get to be stuck doing the dirty work
if this turns out to be true I'm dropping this game

>>150320109
General opinion I saw was that Wasteland 2 was pretty boring, and poorly balanced.

>>150320254
If it's anything like The Pitt I'll be happy, that was a fantastic DLC.

>>150320462
From what little we saw in the trailer, the Nuka World raiders appear to be more like ashur's raiders then ACTUAL raiders.

>>150320254
Pitt was pretty fucking amazing.
>>150320373
The teaser info suggests that you will be the one in charge. So I'm doubtful you're going to be anyone's bitch by the end.

>>150320373
>HEY BOSS WE FOUND ANOTHER SETTLEMENT TO RAID I'LL MARK IT DOWN ON YOUR MAP

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>>150320373
>you don't get to be the raider king
>you get to be stuck doing the dirty work

>>150320775
help

I really hope Nuka world has motorcycle guy in it

>>150320556
Might ne unrelated but we're there generic raiders in NV or did they all have unique gang names. 4 did this a little bit with devils and forged along with Gunners. It stands out in WoTC. Seen a three way between forged devils and raiders. Fuck the children of atom. Fuckers week my day everytime. Wait till i get ghoullike mother fuckers

>>150320604
See, people are worrying that the faction is just going to be Minutemen 2.0, but allow me to explain why that's not that bad.

>Scenario 1
>THERE'S A SETTLEMENT THAT NEEDS OUR HELP
>You have to go out and help a bunch of incompetent fucks stave off a horde of wild animals that any turret system would annihilate

>Scenario 2
>Yeah we found a new settlement, go fuck em up and take their shit
>You are going out and fucking people in the ass

The issue isn't how the mechanics work, but how they're presented. One is baby sitting and the other is being a colossal dick for monetary gain.

>>150320923
New Vegas didn't have any raiders at all really.

It had tribals, but no raiders.

>>150320392
I think it was one of few games that really pandered to the core audience that made the original games (wasteland 1 + fallout 1 and 2) such hits. The first time I played, no, it wasn't balanced, but the free director's cut made the game look a little nicer and really did a good job of balancing the game.

It's a fun game to get immersed in, but, it's just got no mainstream appeal, and what little it did have suffered from the "too little, too late" thing when they fixed everything years later.

It'll be one of those games I'm booting up 20 years later, like how fallout 1, eye of the beholder, avernum, geneforge, and others are now. Kek I just wish I had friends to talk about it with

>>150321043
>avernum, geneforge
I played those games, fucking blew ass, but amazing time wasters.

Every play the Avadon series made by the same guy?

>>150320869
pirate bay I had the same problem when it wouldn't let me redownload it after I lost everything on a drive failure
>>150321014
>who are the fiends

>>150320957
My ideal would be if you could side with the raiders instead of Preston's group right at the start of the game.

Not gonna happen though, it'd basically be adding a new main faction to the game and Bethesda doesn't want to actually have to work for their mountains of shekels.

>>150320026
Alternative PA extra slots when

That would be a way to make Raider PA more usable, have a giant smog spitting engine as a unique attachment for raider torsos, feed it with stuff made of wood to keep it going instead of fusion cores

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>>150320957
oh man my walking dead character is going to dig the fuck out of this

but my space marine sure isn't

probably gonna kill everyone in nuka world

>>150321147
Yes, they kinda do "suck," but I find that most games suck, and as far as balancing my hobbies, I could fit worse things into my vidya slot.

And yes I have them, I like them, but I have a weird affinity for these kinds of games, plus a very big collection. Physical at first but now digital. Fun ways to waste time, get comfy and have dinner in front of.

>>150321298
I think one of the most hoped for features of Nuka World has been additional upgrades to the Raider PA to make it far more usable.

>>150319470
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0zqsKfcTkFZ

>>150321298
Raider PA should give you damage bonus, or inject you with free psycho, or cause enemies to flee in fear occassionally. Low damage resist is fine but it needs to be off-set. It's not even like it's easier to find than other PA types.

As it is, there's zero reason to use it because it disintegrates the moment the first 10mm round flies past and you're gifted a complete set of T-45 at the start, which is better in every way.

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>>150320109
Try underrail

>>150321215
would you please be so kind as to post me a non-virus torrent? i don't trust piratebay and i'm salty that KAT got taken down

>>150321215
>who are the fiends
Fiends weren't really raiders, they were just druggies.

>>150321527
>but it needs to be off-set
No it doesn't.

>As it is, there's zero reason to use it
and? there was zero reason to use the Chinese pistol in fo3, it still should have been there though.

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>"Hey loser. buy me a drink or I'll punch you in the gut."
What do?

>>150321564
>Fiends weren't really raiders
>they were just druggies.
>weren't really raiders

If only we had some sort of name for a predatory mob of post-apocalyptic gangbangers who get off their heads of hard drugs and raid civilised settlements or ambush traders...........

>>150321835
Sorry sir, but I'm straight.

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>>150321835
I'd brainwash her into a loyal little slave and bodyguard.

>>150321780
>Game balance isn't neccesary

Bethdrone plz go

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>>150321835
Shoot first.

>>150321923
Raiders are raiders because they deliberately raid others and steal their shit to survive, fiends are just crazy and attack people because they are too hyped up on drugs to do anything else.

Even the Fiend's own leader is just like "yeah, all those guys outside are the crazy ones we cant control".

They aren't attacking people to raid them, they are attack people cuz

>>150321835
Set it on fire.

>>150321835
Snu snu?

>>150322046
>balance
This has nothing to do with balance you twit, nor is everything perfectly balanced with each other in a good game either, because thats not how shit actually works.

>>150321923
The proper term is kangz

>>150321835
Follower when?

>>150318601
That's a very different kind of blunder, though, so it's not really a fair comparison. Be more accurate to say that Fable disappointed its fans more than FO4.

>>150319032
Only makes sense. We already have industrial water purifiers, get used to it. Besides, like the other anon mentioned; there's a purifier which produces 100 and literally only needs you to lay down a few electric cables to get it up and running.
Not like they didn't provide you with 150 electric to begin with and enough nuclear material to afford another 500 via a single generator.

>>150322514
Either way, the post just said "blunder"

Didn't specify what kind

>>150322046
>even with all +DR perk, and a full suit of marine armor, the highest Dr one can achieve outside power armor is 220
>raider PA gives the player 500DR
>requires only the extremely common item of steel to repair

>>150322797
>breaks as soon as you enter combat

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>>150319676
Player choice is remarkably cut down, and there's also a much more black and white portrayal of these conflicts. Compare the struggle between Gecko and Vault City with Covenant. Racism is involved in both conflicts, but only one portrays it in the grey context of reality. Just like the water chip or the Ink Spots, racism isn't a key theme of Fallout. Morality questions and player choice is.

>its literally Fallout 3/NV if the shooting mechanics didn't suck ass

Yes, it's got good gunplay, but gunplay isn't the central focus of Fallout. I'm talking about build diversity, the level up system, player agency. Specialization is rendered problematic because leveling up a perk such as Gunslinger is locked behind several more levels. Thus every character is condemned to a "Jack of all trades, master of none" status as players look for something else to select. Similarly, the role-playing aspect is all but erased as players are forced into the role of a good guy veteran father looking for his son or a good girl lawyer mother looking for her son.

Bethesda doesn't flesh out these characters enough to warrant the omission of a flexible dialogue system. And the dialogue system itself is too rigid for players to role-play with four choices and characters sounding the same as your last. The result is an unrealized character that belongs to neither the player nor the story.


Tim Cain enjoyed Fallout 3, but wished that it had been more creative with it's portrayal of the East Coast. Haven't heard what he said about Fallout 4, but creating their own factions IS a step forward for Bethesda. Ditching Pagliarulo would be another.

https://youtu.be/5R8dL68KE7c

>>150322080
You have an extremely narrow definition of raiders.

raider
[rey-der]

1.
a person or thing that raids.

Fiends are raiders. They're an exclusively predatory group, they don't farm, they don't build, they just prey on civilised people, it doesn't matter if it's a conscious choice or because they're addicts. Plenty of the Fiends seem to be 'lifestyle' raiders anyway, they rape and pillage because they enjoy it.

>They aren't attacking people to raid them

Jesus Christ, you should be a fucking defence lawyer.

>'My client didn't tie this woman down, slice her tits off and snort coke off the stumps because he WANTED to your honour, he's merely the product of a inadequate social system that has failed him at every turn!'

Doesn't matter WHY fiends rape and pillage, the fact they rape and pillage makes them raiders regardless. Motive doesn't enter into it.

>>150322792
Except we all know what kind of blunder FO4 qualifies as, and so it makes sense to think of other games that also didn't live up to the hype, as opposed to the games that ruined their own legacy with ridiculous DRM.

>>150323035
But anon, when I'm in an irradiated hellhole where food is scarce and everybody is trying to rape me, I need to secure my moral high ground knowing I'm not eating a giant insect or a 12 foot tall death lizard.

>>150323002
> and there's also a much more black and white portrayal of these conflicts
Lol no. in fact, one of the few things I've seen constantly praised about Fallout 4 was that it did a much better job of portraying the factions as being grey.

>Specialization is rendered problematic because leveling up a perk such as Gunslinger is locked behind several more levels. Thus every character is condemned to a "Jack of all trades, master of none" status as players look for something else to select.
I've only ever run into this problem by metagaming, and not actually role playing

>>150322797
You're missing the part where it disintegrates the moment a gun barrel is pointed in it's general direction.

Marine armor doesn't pop off you and dive into your inventory for safety from the mean ol' .32 rounds bullying it.

>>150323172
>>150323035
>memeshit
fucking dropped

>>150323083
>or thing
Are sentient, raiding robots a thing yet? Like a faction headed by something like the think tank?

They send out robots to bring back whatever it is robots need. I know the mechanist girl did that, but it doesn't feel the same as what I'm thinking.

>>150323002
>Similarly, the role-playing aspect is all but erased as players are forced into the role of a good guy veteran father looking for his son or a good girl lawyer mother looking for her son.

>rolpylaying is lost when you are made to play a role

I love it when people say this shit without seeing the inherent contradiction in it.

>>150323371
And you're a fucking retard for thinking being forced into the shoes of a character and ability to make your own character are the same thing.

By your own stupid fucking logic, Tetris is a role playing game because you play as the manipulator of the blocks.

>>150323603
>By your own stupid fucking logic, Tetris is a role playing game because you play as the manipulator of the blocks.
Tetris doesn't have leveling up systems, or quests, or gear, or anything else that makes up RPgs

what a total false comparison

>>150323603
>you play as the manipulator of the blocks.
What? No you don't. You play as a Russian peasant during the fall of the Imperial family, and rise of the Soviets.

>>150323603
Thank god we've never had forced background elements in other fallout games.

>>150323672
>Tetris doesn't have leveling up systems, or quests, or gear, or anything else that makes up RPgs
Way to move the goalposts.

>rolpylaying is lost when you are made to play a role
Your original quote, to play a role means literally playing any video game that puts you in control of something.

See how stupidly pedantic this argument is?

>You play the role of Gordon Freeman
>You play the role of Doom Guy
>You play the role of Faggot McFaggtson in "I make stupid fucking arguments on the internet in an attempt to sound smart."

>>150323172
>Elianora's shitty Dragon Age waifu/self-insert
Disgusting. Absolutely revolting shit-tier beyond pleb tier taste.
Kill yourself.

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>>150323885

>>150323885
I can be LITERALLY whoever the fuck I like in New Vegas.
Not some shmuck veteran or fancy ass pansy lawyer from prewar.

>>150323363
>Are sentient, raiding robots a thing yet?

I want Whitechapel Charlie leading a gang of Redcoat-themed raiders.

>>150323893
>Way to move the goalposts.
Except its not.

>Your original quote, to play a role means literally playing any video game that puts you in control of something.
Wrong, my original quote was saying that playing a game where you are put into the role of a character is part of what defined role playing.

I never said, or implied, it was the only thing that mattered.

Your entire argument is based on a fucking ridiculous straw man

>>150323885
False equivalence.

>Fallout 1 - You're a Vault Dweller
>Fallout 2 - You're a Tribal
>Fallout 3 - You're a Vault Dweller
>New Vegas - You're the Courier
>Fallout 4 - YOU'RE A PREWAR SOLDIER/LAWYER WITH A SPOUSE AND SON

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>>150323269
>>150323894
I just thought Piper looked cute dammit

>>150324152
>piper
>cute
>ever
No.

>>150323986
Not him but no you can't.

You HAVE to be a mailman who has spent years in the NCR, and has gone to Circle Junction, Fort Abandon, done brahmin drives on the big circle, gone to Navarro, crisscrossed the southwest to pass through The Divide enough times to basically be reproducible for the community in the first place, and tons of other shit

>>150324137
>You're a Vault Dweller with a runaway scientist dad, black mother and desperate need to go searching for MUH FATHER
Fixed.
Don't give Bethesda credit as if 3 let you roleplay.

>>150318509
Daikatana.
Duke NUkem Forever.
Castlevania Lords of Shadow.

>>150322007
HOW DO I GET THAT ARMOR

>>150324137
>Fallout 2 - You're a Tribal
With a mom, an aunt, and a cousin.

Historical revisionism at its finest

>>150324104
>Wrong, my original quote was saying that playing a game where you are put into the role of a character is part of what defined role playing.

Oh sorry guys, Halo, Half Life, DOOM etc. are all RPGs now. Apparently this is a strawman when it literally fits your definition.

>>150324276
>>150324406
>YOU HAD PARENTS/OLDER FAMILY MEMBERS, WOW THIS ISN'T ROLEPLAYING
Having parents isn't exactly a choice we get to make, dumbasses.

>>150324276
in fallout 3 you could only talk to like 5 people about your dad not everyone you come across like in this game

>>150324385
You gotta do what you gotta do, y'know?

>>150322007
>>150324530
WHO'S DICK I GOTTA SUCK FOR THAT ARMOR

>>150324406
>>150324276
Having older family members != Not a choice.

Having a son = A big choice that defines a character's personal life.

How can you even compare these two things? You don't get to choose your parents, this is a fact of life.

>>150324489
>Oh sorry guys, Halo, Half Life, DOOM etc. are all RPGs now.
Again, nice strawman, what part of "its a PART of RPGs" do you not understand?

>Having parents isn't exactly a choice we get to make, dumbasses.
It still limits our RP because we can't make up fantastical backstorues where are parents were abusive fgts that caused up to go all edgy or w/e.

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>>150321835
Be impressed by the super mutant's ability to form a full sentence.
Proceed to obliterate the abomination.

>>150324137
Fallout 1 vault dweller out to save his people, discovers a bigger world
Fallout 2 tribal out to save his people, discovers a bigger world
Fallout 3 vault dweller out to save his dad, discovers a bigger world
New Vegas courier after some plastic, ends up fighting a war
Fallout 4 soldier or lawyer out to save their son, discovers a whole new world

Semantics

>>150324648
I'm not sure what you're even arguing at this point. At first you were arguing that literally any game where you play a role is an RPG, and now you're saying "no I meant roleplaying defines what RPGs are" as if it wasn't obvious to begin with.

Fallout 4 limits roleplaying to the extreme. Every interaction with Piper and Nick past their introduction scenes requires you talking about your son. There's no way to hunt down Kellogg without being a bleeding heart parent.

>>150324646
>pretending you can roleplay in Shitout 3
HAAH WAAW

>>150324662
yeah the helmet takes the hair slot instead of the head slot in the game

gotta change it in the geck

>>150324646
Because its a totally unneeded addition to our backstories that could easily be avoided as it is in many RPGs were the player's parents are never brought up, or, if they are, we can say they were everything from nice to shit.

They are both equally uneccessary and limiting backstory additions that could be entierly removed, and could give us many more ways to RPG if they were, but for some reason its ok when one of them(the one done by Obsidian) s in, but when BETHESDA does it its LE EVIL WRONG WORST THING EVER!

The hypocrisy in it is palpable.

>>150324881
>At first you were arguing that literally any game where you play a role is an RPG
Except I wasn't, nothing in my orignal point stated or implied that, thats your ass backward strawman as I already pointed out.

>>150324910
Fallout 3 lets you decide a multitude of factors in the LW's early life and their actions on the surface. It's just as much a roleplaying game as New Vegas. It just lacks content.

>>150324928
Having parents is nowhere near as limiting as having a son. One is an unavoidable outcome required for you to even exist, the other is a choice between two people one of whom is you.

>>150325128
>Fallout 3 lets you decide a multitude of factors in the LW's early life and their actions on the surface. It's just as much a roleplaying game as New Vegas. It just lacks content.
Ahahaha, someone ACTUALLY believes this.

>muh father!!!
>muh kindly saint dialogue :)))))
>muh kick puppies for giggles psycopath!!!

That's all of Fallout 3's dialogue, options and "roleplay" potential.

>>150325072
>rolpylaying is lost when you are made to play a role

>>150325128
>Having parents is nowhere near as limiting as having a son.
Sure it is, becuase nothing says you wanted a son, like having a son, and even i nthe MQ you can get out of mentioning your son in near every occasion except when doing the interview with Nick.

Hell, when Maxson asks why you want to get into the Institute you can give any number of reasons ranging from the technology, the mystery, or revenge

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>>150324615
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/9034/?

>>150325309
Doing the life in a vault interview with Piper requires you to mention Shaun. There is no way to avoid it.

>>150325280
>rolpylaying is lost when you are made to play a role
Which, again, says nothing about playing a role being the sole faction of an RPG, only that the idea that you play a fixed role does not discredit it from being an RPG.

Are you functionally retarded or something?

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>>150325640
>im so tired of being banned for posting porn on a blue board

>>150325640
Maybe you should go back to /v/

>>150325280
Which is fine in games with a pre-defined character like the Witcher games.

Fallout has generally been about playing blank slates where you can define the character though.

Frankly it's embarassing that Mass Effect had more leeway to define what Shepard was compared to Nate/Nora. At least there you had some minor say over the nature of your personality.

Worst you can really do most of the time in Fo4 is refuse to help people, or help people but be rude about it.

How they're going to have you suddenly decide to be a raider in Nuka World without it coming across like the SS has multiple personality disorder is beyond me.

>>150325640
I bet Fallout 4 did this...

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>fo4 is my first fallout game
>tired of wating for nuka world
>finish fo1
>start fo:nv
>realize that fo4 is shittier than I thought

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Fucking Bethesda

>Building vault
>Decide to make a little casino room
>build 4 slots machines, they aren't even powered yet
>Retard Clem and his gang of gibbering settlers rush into the casino within seconds
>They've all abandoned their posts, guards, shopkeeps, farmers. All of them have decided to gamble.
>Slot machine earnings max out at 50 caps total at 19 caps per day
>All my settlers are now not working at all, and I'm getting no caps.

9/10 It's okay

>>150326095
>my first fallout

Really? Because you sound like your average salty NV poster.

>>150326016
>>150325958
>>150325730
No its just like barely bannable shit, privates arent showing except for nipples, and in japan nipples arent censored.

>>150326000
>How they're going to have you suddenly decide to be a raider in Nuka World without it coming across like the SS has multiple personality disorder is beyond me.
Same way they did it in the Pitt, by making the raiders of Nuka world not actual raiders, but rather a small city state that uses raider aesthetics and force to get their way.

>>150326262
Or they could simply make it after the main quest... where loyalty means nothing anymore. That would be the smart fucking thing to do but no... bethesda is dumb so they will make it a completely new faction.

>>150324920
thanks!

>>150326553
Why does it need to happen after the MQ when settlement shit doesn't matter to the MQ outside the Minutemen.

Raiders also wouldn't care about The Institute

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>>150326262
I liked the Pitt. I hope Nuka World is run by an Ashur-like figure and they don't just go for some lewlsoedgy raider shit.

That's fine for minor gangs of wackjobs but a raider nation should have purpose to it's aggression.

Also raider qt's

>>150326674
Because then you don't have any moral responsibility. Your son is dead, and your wife is dead

>>150326674
>Facility capable of mass producing drugs, advanced weaponry and sex slaves
>Raiders wouldn't care

>>150326262
It will be pay evil unto evil. Youll ne raiding other raider settlements. Unless it's confirmed your antics will leak into the Commonwealth. Then idk mang.

>>150325128
>Having parents is nowhere near as limiting as having a son.

Saving your people by finding a water chip does not limit your choices?
Saving your people by finding a GECK does not limit your choices?
Finding your father does not limit your choices?

Doing nothing and not going anywhere is not a choice?

>>150326969
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, what about Fallout 2 and New Vegas? Tactics?

>>150326907
It does say lead gangs of raiders across the commonwealth, so my guess is they'll be a different faction altogether. Or bethesda was very very smart for once and added in a way for the mc to retcon the whole institute story.

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>>150324920
uhh ok new problem now i have no neck...

>>150327362
Play fallout 4 instead

>>150321563
google FALLOUT DLC DOWNLOAD

download. ffs.

>>150327479
hahaha oh thats a good one

>>150326969
>Saving your people by finding a water chip does not limit your choices?

No, because you have dialogue choices to show you don't really care about the chip.

>Saving your people by finding a GECK does not limit your choices?

Again, can be chinned off in favor of becoming a porn star, dialogue options to dismiss your shitty little village

>Finding your father does not limit your choices?

Not nearlly as time-critical as having a baby kidnapped by a homocidal maniac and taken out into a wasteland full of dangers. Your dad can take care of himself, it's just a mystery to be solved as to his motives for leaving.

A baby being kidnapped by a known killer is a 'drop everything and don't sleep until he's found' situation.

Plus you're bottlenecked with limited dialogue so you can't even be a bad parent who doesn't really give a shit about his son and just wants to snort ground mentats off the tits of some ghoul hooker in Good Neighbor (whoops, forgot, Fallout 4's settlements are all sanitized. Don't want any moral corruption mixed with our healthy gratuitous violence!)

>>150321563
Fucking idiot... skidrowreloaded.com is the only place to get good torrents. You're a pleb for not knowing.

>>150327612
>Again, can be chinned off in favor of becoming a porn star,
by this logic so can Fallout by going off to become a super hero, or solve an island mystery, or help robots launch a ship

>>150327592
Im serious stop playing your shitty outdated buggy game for the sake of a meme, and upgrade to fallout 4.

>>150327792
>upgrade
no fallout 4 is a downgrade

>>150327612
>you can't even be a bad parent who doesn't really give a shit about his son

Once you find your son and learn he is a 50 year old asshole who watched you as you struggled to find him you can walk away and do as you please and not give a shit about your son.

>>150321563
rarbg.to

>>150327612
Fallout 4 is great you're just an angry neckbeard...

>>150331030
Fallout 4 is an above average game. It is a bad Fallout game. Not even him, but don't even call it great. It isn't great.

>>150331630
Yes, it is. It's a fantastic game you stupid nigger. It's everything Fallout should be.

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>Start playing Fallout 4 again since a while.
>Follow the vault tec quest chain.
>Notice in the end that my experiment choises are set permanent.
>People dying left and right in the vault.
>Playing on survival so can't go back.
>Quit.

This shit, happends all the god damn time, just like that time i lost a settlement permanently cause of that BoS quest.

>>150326734
>raider
>qt
Pick one

>>150332208
It isn't and your bias is showing, Todd.

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>>150332264
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/16937/?

Enjoy.

>>150331630
>It is a bad Fallout game
Not him, but i love this statement because it totally ignores how every single Fallout game has had a vastly different tone from each other, and many have had vastly different gameplay, and has gotten called out for it, and yet remain Fallout games despite it.

-Tactics doesn't play like Fallout 1 or 2,
-Fallout 3 and NV dont play like Tactics or Fallout 1/2
-Fallout 4 doesn't play like any previous game

-Fallout 1 had a middle ground approach to gritty wasteland and humor.
-Fallout 2 was often mocked for taking its "humor" and pop culture refrences way too far.
-Tactics had this ultra series late 80's scifi theme to it
-Fallout 3 added a massive amounts of 50's to the pot
-New Vegas was the first game that really tried to push a grey morality narrative
-Fallout 4 is teething of a mix between Fo3 and NV

At this point, the only thing that defines Fallout is its background of being a post apocalyptic game series with ghouls, super mutants, the NCR, the BoS etc etc

>>150325334

that looks good mang, sauce please kind sir.

>>150332514
Shut the fuck up nostalgiafag nigger neckbeard.

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I'm on my first playthough of FO4, and am currently at the point where I have to decide who to build the teleporter with. How would I go about blowing up the Brotherhood with the Minutemen, but still keeping Danse as a companion?

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>>150317479
How do I move the settlers at Tenpines bluff to somewhere else?

Is there a command or a mod for it?

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>>150332537

Hey, that's pretty good.

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Do you guys think default nate is caucasian?

>>150332548
>change the definition of what Fallout is so Fallout 4 meets the definition
Wew lad. Fallout 4 is extremely different, even compared to FO3 and FNV, I don't know who you're trying to kid. It's supposed to be a main installment, but it plays like a Sims Fallout spin-off. It takes place in the Fallout Universe, so did Tactics and BoS (which were both garbage), but that doesn't make it a good fallout game. It's bad and you should feel bad for defending it.

>>150332683
Why are you so upset, Todd? I already told you your game is above average. It's just garbage for the series.

>>150331630
>Fallout 4 is an above average game. It is a bad Fallout game.

It corrects most of the flaws of FO3 and FO NV, it failed in the main quest because casual players have no interest in Boston's history (rebuilding the Commonwealth and Slavery).

Casuals want to have fun fun fun and there's no prostrate massage provided.
Far Harbor is very good and indicates the direction for the next Fallout and Nuka World may show more of Bethesda's plans for FO 5.

>>150332974
>Fallout 4 is extremely different, even compared to FO3 and FNV
Not really.

>so did Tactics and BoS (which were both garbage
BoS was garbage, but lots of people like tactics.

>>150332980
>Far Harbor is very good and indicates the direction for the next Fallout and Nuka World may show more of Bethesda's plans for FO 5
The first part is true, but the second part is not. It's been posted before, but Bethesda always gets a touch more ambitious in the story DLC than in the main game, probably because the base game has to have the more casual appeal in order to move units. That's why Dragonborn was so good, and that's why Far Harbor was too.

Expect just more of the same with Fo5 and that includes the game engine

>>150333084
Yes, really. Handing the PC a messiah complex and saying "Go fix the commonwealth" isn't Fallout. Leaving the gritty elements out, and even making them completely unavailable to the PC altogether is not Fallout. Having little to no character development throughout the game is not Fallout. I'm sorry, it is not a good Fallout game. It's barely an RPG, let alone a Post-Apocalyptic RPG.

>>150332781
enter the build mode and then aim at the settler you want to move, should say what key you need to press on the bottom row (mine is set to R by defualt)

>zenimax cocksuckers still think there's a massive obsidian organized conspiracy against fallout 4, when the reality is it's shit because people who never should have been involved with the project got involved
sasuga /fog/

>had problems running fallout for months, flickering, rainbows, crashes
>it's apparently just crossfire being a bitch for fallout only
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>150332974
>Wew lad. Fallout 4 is extremely different, even compared to FO3 and FNV
>difference between Fo4 and 3/NV

1. Gunplay isn't garbage
2. VATs is less broke
3. The skill system was updated to more properly reflect how it worked in Fo3/NV anyways
4. Power armor is actually power armor
5. More weapons/armor mods

SUCH MASSIVE FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES!

What are your must have mods for Fallout 4? I've been doing a fresh install and redoing all my stuff.

>>150333425
>Less weapons over all
>No character development
>Complete lack of choices outside of the main faction
>no defining skill system at all despite your asspull
But yeah, the gunplay is a defining characteristic of Fallout as a series.

>>150333568
uninstall.exe and that's it

>>150333312
>Yes, really. Handing the PC a messiah complex and saying "Go fix the commonwealth" isn't Fallout.
>Fallout 1 had the PC near single handedly stop and army of super mutants.

>Fallout 2 had the PC near single handedly stop the genocidal per-war government.

>Fallout 3 had the player do the same as Fallout 1/2

>New Vegas had the courier near singlehandedly determine the fate of the entire southwest

>Fallout 4 has the SS determine the fate of the commonwealth

Its literally the exact same shit as all the other games.

>Leaving the gritty elements out
Such as?

We have racism, slavery, genocidal plots, raiders killing and dismembering people.

>Having little to no character development throughout the game is not Fallout
Actually, due to the changes to the skill system in Fallout 4,its actually possible to develop your character to FAR greater levels then you could in Fo3 or NV.

> I'm sorry, it is not a good Fallout game. It's barely an RPG, let alone a Post-Apocalyptic RPG.
Its literally exactly like all the other games in the end

>>150333585
>Less weapons over all
>Weapon mods gives you more possible weapons then in any previous games

>No character development
>the perk system lets you develop your character to far greater extremes then in past games.

>Complete lack of choices outside of the main faction
>near every single side quest has multiple ways to complete it

>no defining skill system at all despite your asspull
>I CANT REFUTE THE POINT SO I AM JUST GOING TO CALL IT AN ASSPULL!

>>150332970
>Do you guys think default nate is caucasian?

He's West European with a touch of Slav.

>>150317479
complete edition when?

>>150333863
>Weapon mods gives you more possible weapons then in any previous games
That's like saying Borderlands has infinite guns even though there's only handful of guns with tiny variations between them in reality.

>>150334053
probably around Xmas time

>>150333727
>>Leaving the gritty elements out
>Such as?
Different anon, but I don't know, such as anything from the sexual side of mature content? I don't know what it is, probably something to do with stupid fucking US laws, but Bethesda has no problem putting in cartoonish levels of silly violence, but anything even remotely suggestive is off the table.

>>150334064
>That's like saying Borderlands has infinite guns even though there's only handful of guns with tiny variations between them in reality.
Fallout 4's mods offer far more useful combinations then borderalnds gun system does though.

at the end of the day
10 guns that be modded to do 1000 things total > 100 guns that can't be modded, and thus can only do 100 things total.

If you care more about textures then mechanics, go play the sims

>>150333863
2/10

>>150333727
>Fallout 1 just need to find a water chip, super mutants were actually second

>Fallout 2 just need to find the GECK, Enclave came second

>Fallout 3 gave PC a messiah complex

>F:NV sends you to get your chip and the Battle for Hoover Dam is secondary

>FO4 you're out of the Vault for 15 minutes and you're told to fix the commonwealth

>Such as?
Prostitution, there aren't really any slaves in FO4 because machines aren't slaves, there are raiders, but you can't join them hence the LOCKING THE PC OUT OF THE GRITTY ELEMENTS COMPLETELY

>due to the changes to the skill system in Fallout 4,its actually possible to develop your character to FAR greater levels then you could in Fo3 or NV.
You're going to need to explain this one to me, because it seems we have extremely different concepts of character development.

>Its literally exactly like all the other games in the end
Not even close.

>>150333863
>Weapon mods give you different variants of the exact same 10 weapons than any other fallout game
FTFY

>the perk system lets you develop your character to far greater extremees then in past games
With what perks that define you as a character? None.

>near every single side quest has multiple ways to complete it
Near every single side quest has no effect on anything including how you complete it. I'm glad you bought into the illusion of choice though.

>I CANT REFUTE THE POINT SO I AM JUST GOING TO CALL IT AN ASSPULL!
It is an asspull. There is no skill system. At all.

>>150334089
You do realize that there has been sex in every single Fallout game besides this one, despite Fallout being an American IP?

>>150334089
>but anything even remotely suggestive is off the table.
Besides Cait's backstory about being sold off to raiders to be used as a sex slave.

And have you heard some of the stuff companions talk about when you sleep with them?

I dread to think what Nora and Mccready were doing with mutfruit

>>150334064
>even though there's only handful of guns with tiny variations between them in reality
Oh come on, that's grossly unfair to Borderlands. You have RPGs, SMGs, ARs, shotguns, snipers, tons of legendary variants for all of those, weapon mods that actually change the behavior of the gun (e.g. Torgue barrels), and whole manufacturer classes that each have their own shtick (though some are more unique than others). Borderlands legitimately has a lot of weapon variety, unlike Fo4. A lot of the Fo4 weapon mods are total trash, and just damage bumps anyway, e.g. all of the base automatic laser barrels, anything but the top two or three energy weapon receivers, the shitty stocks, etc.

>>150327362
well then you need to dick around with it until you get it right try the mask slots then I don't have this issue
also test it in the geck on a new npc

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Alright, just installed New Vegas, downloaded a bunch of mods and shit, everything mostly worked.

This might be a dumb question, but how does one fix the issue where the head is a different color then the body on NPC's?

>>150334238
10 guns can't be modded into 1000 things
Or even 100
It's a straightforward tier system

>>150334361
>Besides Cait's backstory about being sold off to raiders to be used as a sex slave.
She was sold off by her parents when she turned 18 and has been at the combat zone fighting. There's little to no mention of what she did only that bad things happened to her and she got hooked on drugs.

>>150334734
bLoadGenTFace whatever in your FalloutNV ini and prefs ini. Set it to 1.

>>150334734
you haven't properly set up archive invalidation and/or mismatching body/face textures

>>150333425

6. Companions are no longer overpowered and kill everything for you.
7. Pathfinding is much improved.
8. You can not only craft weapons and armor but you can build bases to store your stuff and don't have to lose or sell everything.
9. The factions deliver real rewards.

>>150334334
>Fallout 1 just need to find a water chip, super mutants were actually second
>Fallout 2 just need to find the GECK, Enclave came second
>Fallout 3 gave PC a messiah complex
>F:NV sends you to get your chip and the Battle for Hoover Dam is secondary
>FO4 you're out of the Vault for 15 minutes and you're told to fix the commonwealth
I love the clear bias here as you ignore the fact that Fallout 3 and 4 both start off with simple stories about finding a family member, while the whole plot about saving the wasteland comes second like in Fallout 1, 2, and NV.

>because machines aren't slaves
Can you make an answer that isn't a meme?
>there are raiders, but you can't join them
Couldn't join the raiders in Fallout 3 or NV either

>You're going to need to explain this one to me, because it seems we have extremely different concepts of character development.
Easy, in Fallout 3/NV, you had a 1-100 skill system, when it came to shit like lockpicking and hacking, only every 25 points mattered due to the 25/50/75/100 invisible wall shit they pulled. Fallout 4 just converts that down to a 5 rank perk where the first 4 ranks do the same thing as the 25/50/75/100 skill from Fallout 3/NV, but also adds a 5th bonus rank, allowing you to take it further then in past games.

Similarly, when it comes to shit like weapon skills, the increase in damage per point in the 1-100 skill system was so low, it only actually increased your gun damage by an effective amount every 20 or so points. Fallout 4 converts this into a 5 ranked perk, where each rank gives you slightly more then 20 skill points did in the 1-100 system, but also gives you additional bonuses like stagger, disarm, cripple, armor penetration, and more, thus meaning you get far more out of it then you did with the 1-100 skill system.

Not to mention that you now have an unlimited umber of intense training perks to take your SPECIAL farther, and total HP and action points can be raised to far higher levels.

>>150334334
>With what perks that define you as a character? None.
Because all these perks from past Fallout games that are also in Fallout 4 = no character definition

Adamantium Skeleton
Animal Friend
Better Criticals
Black Widow/Lady Killer
Bloody Mess
Cannibal
Chemist
Chem Resistant
Commando
Concentrated Fire
Demolition Expert
Fast Metabolism
Fortune Finder
Friend of the Night(Night Person rank 2)
Ghastly Scavenger(Cannibal ranks 2)
Grim Reaper's Sprint
Intense Training
Lead Belly
Life Giver
Light Step(Sneak Rank 2)
Living Anatomy(Awareness)
Long Haul(Strong Back rank 4)
Master Trader(cap collector)
Mister Sandman
Mysterious Stranger
Nerd Rage!
Nerves of Steel(Action Boy/Action Girl)
Night Person
Ninja
Paralyzing Palm(Iron Fist Rank 5)
Party Boy/Pary Girl
Rad Absorption(Solar Powered Rank 2)
Rad Child(Ghoulish)
Rad Resistance
Rapid Reload(Quick Hands)
Scrounger
Shotgun Surgeon(Rifleman)
Silent Running(sneak rank 3)
Solar Powered
Sniper
Splash Damage(Demolition Expert Rank 3)
Spray 'n Pray(Inspirational rank 2)
Strong Back
Toughness

>>150334849
Where's that supposed to be located? install folder?

>>150334757
> There's little to no mention of what she did only that bad things happened to her and she got hooked on drugs.
Actually, she outright says the raiders had their way with her, and that she used the times after they were done to steal tiny amounts of caps until she could buy her freedom.

>>150335073
>I love the clear bias here as you ignore the fact that Fallout 3 and 4 both start off with simple stories about finding a family member
You literally get told to fix the Capital Wasteland and the Commonwealth not 15 minutes after stepping out of the Vault in clear contrast to the other games where it's an end-game issue.

>Can you make an answer that isn't a meme?
Can you?

>Couldn't join the raiders in Fallout 3 or NV either
You can join and assist both the Khans and the fiends, you lying faggot. You can join the slaver raiders in FO3, you lying faggot.

>Fallout 4 converts this into a 5 ranked perk, where each rank gives you slightly more then 20 skill points did in the 1-100 system, but also gives you additional bonuses like stagger, disarm, cripple, armor penetration, and more, thus meaning you get far more out of it then you did with the 1-100 skill system.
So you don't actually have influence on character development, nor do you want that. You want to turn your character into a walking killing machine. I was right, we have different definitions of character development and growth. You want to just be the baddest swinging dick in the wasteland instead of developing and growing your character into an individual suiting your role and tastes.

>Not to mention that you now have an unlimited umber of intense training perks to take your SPECIAL farther, and total HP and action points can be raised to far higher levels
This is not character development. This is turning a character into a god like entity in a gamey fashion.

>>150335240
And the other 100 perks that do things other than make you overpowered and define you as a character?

>>150335463
Documents, games, FalloutNV

>>150335463
>>150334734
Ah, wait. You mean the neckseam issue. It's unfixable due to how Gamebryo works. It's been like this forever. There are a few mods that give and distribute necklaces to cover it up on the Nexus.

>>150334965
The body and face mods i have are Mojave Delight BEWARE OF GIRL Type 3 HiRez Hi Detailed Replacer. I understood that they should be compatable?

>>150335759
>You literally get told to fix the Capital Wasteland and the Commonwealth not 15 minutes after stepping out of the Vault in clear contrast to the other games where it's an end-game issue.
Except you don't at all. The only person who tells you that in Fallout 3 is James, who you only meet halfway through the story, and even with the Minutemen of Fallout 4, they can be 100% ignores.

>Can you?
Yes, all thinking sentiant things can be enslaves, thinking feeling robots can be enslaved, the only person who says otherwise is you, and every time you try t push this idiotic agenda, everyone comes down on your for being retarded.

You have done it near every day for like a week, and fucking no one agrees.

>You can join and assist both the Khans and the fiends, you lying faggot. You can join the slaver raiders in FO3, you lying faggot.
Ohh nice name calling
A. Khans are trials, not raiders
B. you can't join the Fiends, you can deliver drugs to them, but you can't outright join them.
C. Slavers are not raiders

>You want to turn your character into a walking killing machine.
How is wanting the choices I make for my character actually mean something mean only that I want him to be a killing machine?

What a fucking terrible straw man.

>This is not character development. This is turning a character into a god like entity in a gamey fashion.
So taking perks in Fallout 1/2 to achive the same effect is not?

>And the other 100 perks that do things other than make you overpowered and define you as a character?
Such as?

Also, how is shit like night person, or animal friend an overpowered perk? Hell, animal friend is probably the most balanced its ever been

>>150336275
Yeah, sorry i wasn't more specific. I wouldn't mind it if it wasnst so noticible, but thanks anyway.

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I finally found a mod that does exactly what I was looking for.

>>150336576
makes cait look even worse?

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>Hit vertibird with Big Boy MIRV
>Twelve nuclear detonations fill the screen with light and my subwoofer sounds like it is breaking.
>No damage dealt

>>150332970
This is childish guys, different fallout games are fun to different people, all fallout games are fallout games. Rpg or not, fallout tactics wasnt an rpg either but it was still enjoyable and set in a fallout universe. Please stop this bickering. Either go make /fnvg/ or /fo4g/ and stop this madness, its time to let it go. Enjoy what you enjoy and stop being a dick to others because they don't meet your standards of liking games with deep rpg elements, or games with better gunplay and graphics. Just fucking end it. You wouldn't be so bored if you bothered to try and mod the game like buffscale, trainwiz, kos, and banana tits.

>>150336951
Fuck off, I'm not gonna let Fallout turn into Call of Duty by accepting 4 as anything but trash.

Are there some good mods that increase the buildable area at settlements well? What's the best mod for increasing your building budget?

I want to be able to build on all of the island Sanctuary is on.

>>150337094
you clearly have some massive anal devastation over a video game.

Go seek help.

your about as bad as that NMA guy who said he punched his girlfriend and dumped her because she didn't like Fallout

how do you change your settlers hairstyles in the barber chair

i was under the impression that was now possible w/ out console commands.

>>150337094
Its not like mods aren't being made to make the game more of an rpg, and you already have a game that fits your needs. If bethesda didnt do this there's a good chance the company would die and no fallout games would ever be made again. Youre being childish, you really cant enjoy a game for what it is? Or let others enjoy it without being a total ass?

>>150336432
>The only person who tells you that in Fallout 3 is James
And Three Dog, and the Brotherhood, and Rivet City

>You have done it near every day for like a week, and fucking no one agrees
It's almost as if there are multiple people on this board. It's almost as if I am not the only person who has posted this. It's almost as if you're a massive faggot who thinks there is only one person who disagrees with you.

>A. Khans are trials, not raiders
>The Great Khans are a raider gang found in the Mojave Wasteland in 2281.
>http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Khans

>B. you can't join the Fiends, you can deliver drugs to them, but you can't outright join them.
Never did a Legion playthrough, did you?

>C. Slavers are not raiders
You accuse me of strawman and memes and then pull this shit out of your ass? Wew lad.

>How is wanting the choices I make for my character actually mean something mean only that I want him to be a killing machine?
Because the perks you want do just that. They have no definition outside of turning you into a killing machine. It isn't even a strawman, you even chose the perks I blasted you for.

>So taking perks in Fallout 1/2 to achive the same effect is not?
They have the same perks, but they have perks of equal value that do not. The difference is that they actually give you the option.

>Such as?
Ain't like that Now, Heave Ho!, Skill Magazine perks, Skill book perks (all useless with the lack of skill system), various unarmed perks (don't even get me started with unarmed in FO4, you are actively punished for choosing unarmed) there are a shit ton of other perks as well, but these are just examples. You, and people like you, are limiting actual choices of previous fallout games with the illusion of choice in FO4 despite your claims of a more varied perk and skill system.

>>150337324
the barber chair was only meant to work with you

>>150337383
god dammit i guess i'll have to use console commands

>>150326095
Too soon man. Too soon.

>>150337352
Fuck you, Bethesda aren't some poor little developers who need this. They're just hogging the series to themselves as an easy cash cow for casuals instead of letting Obsidian pour love and care into the series.
Bethesda are actively killing the mod scene to make it even worse.

>>150334334
>You do realize that there has been sex in every single Fallout game besides this one, despite Fallout being an American IP?

He didn't have sex with the adulterous wife, the Slog hottie or the robobrain in Far Harbor!

Prostitution, child rape and murder and beast sex are not Politically Correct now.

Mock drug use, bloody mess violence and dead raider victims are everywhere.

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Ah, my favorite part of replaying New Vegas - lugging that damn anti-materiel rifle around for ages, never using it, because the ammo's so hard to get and then finally something big and scary enough pops up, you finally have an excuse to use it and just wipe the fucker off the ass of the planet.

Watching a supermutant master's head explode in a single shot is so satisfying.

I'd like Bethesda to make another TERMINATOR game.

>>150337674
>because the ammo's so hard to get
But... you can buy 50 rounds a pop from Gun Runners ever 3 days.

does doing the BoS questline make you kill off your synth and mutant friends?

>>150337763
I fucking wish. They're totally cool with you bringing Nick and Strong aboard the Prydwen when realistically the Brotherhood should light them up as soon as they get within range of the base.

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It's August. Dolphin porn Nuka World when?

>>150337362
>And Three Dog, and the Brotherhood, and Rivet City
None of them tell you to go save the wasteland.

>It's almost as if there are multiple people on this board
I never implied there wasn't, however, you have been posting the exact same shit copy-paste for nearly a week now. No one here is THAT fucking dumb to notice notice its the same person when you do it so often.

>The Great Khans are a raider gang found in the Mojave Wasteland in 2281
>wiki

>Never did a Legion playthrough, did you?
Actually I have, you still never join them.

>You accuse me of strawman and memes and then pull this shit out of your ass? Wew lad.
Salvers aren't raiders, they are slavers.

>They have no definition outside of turning you into a killing machine.
>being more carry weight is about killing
>more healing is about killing
>seeing in the dark is about killing
Uh huh, sure.

>They have the same perks, but they have perks of equal value that do not. The difference is that they actually give you the option.
You have to option to take any perk you want, or no perks at all.

>Ain't like that Now
Karma, which was removed because no one liked it.
> Heave Ho!
Part of the demolitions expert perk series
> Skill Magazine perks, Skill book perks
Perk magazines in Fallout 4
>various unarmed perks
All about killing shit, something you complained about earlier, so now your contradicting yourself here.

>You, and people like you, are limiting actual choices of previous fallout games
All the perks you listed were either entirely superficial, temporary, or continued to being able to kill more effectively, which you complained about.

Most of the perks you listed were literally "illusionary choice" perks.

>>150337968
Likely not until the 23rd, as the expected release date is the 30th.

>>150337747
Yeah, but it still runs out pretty quickly.

>>150337563
Keep repeating garbage that you heard and being a hivemind, bethesda is poor as fuck, if they hadn't appealed to normies we would have been s.o.l. after oblivion. Normies are the ones who purchase the games in droves because their friends bought the game. Lets be honest, most of us pirate the game, and then buy later if we like it or want to support the developer. You simply cannot run an industry/business catering to neets. They aren't what brings in the money. It was an executive decision that had to be made. There will probably be a fallout 4.5 by obsidian or maybe even bioware, you just dont know so stop complaining. You're making things worse.

>>150337874

Strong should be totally optional. You should be able to light him up the moment you see him.

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>assigned as director of The Institute
>We hope you can help us on our way towards out over-all goals
>Okay what are these goals
>Destroying the BOS
>and after that?
>uhhhhhhhhhh

Holy shit guys, why are you manufacturing perfect humans by the thousands if you don't even have a plan for them?

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fucking amd

>>150338319
>by the thousands
They aren't. We can see on terminals in the synth lab theres only like 10 on schedule for production.

I dont know where people get this" by the thousands" idea. Every synth in the game would even be 1,000 total across all 3 gnes.

>>150338137
So rather than repeat garbage you just made a bunch of garbage up?

>>150338368
That's a cute polka dot hat that Allen has.

>>150338049
>>150338049
>None of them tell you to go save the wasteland.
Wut. Three Dog literally tells you to "fight the good fight" a.k.a. save the fucking wasteland.


>you have been posting the exact same shit copy-paste for nearly a week now.
Yes, only one person can hold the same opinion about Fallout 4. Absolutely no one else can hold the same opinion or post similar things. Especially if one of those persons hasn't had internet for nearly a week because they just moved.

>wiki
WAAAH IT'S WRONG BECAUSE IT DISAGREES WITH ME EVEN THOUGH THE KHANS HAVE BEEN REFERRED TO AS RAIDERS SINCE FALLOUT 1. Fuck off.

>Salvers aren't raiders, they are slavers
How do you think those slavers get slaves? By raiding. Who raids? Raiders. Slavers are raiders.

>You have to option to take any perk you want, or no perks at all
Isn't much of a choice there innit?

>memey bullshit
>All the perks you listed were either entirely superficial, temporary, or continued to being able to kill more effectively, which you complained about.
I complained about it being the ONLY option, which it is.

>Most of the perks you listed were literally "illusionary choice" perks
>have actual effects outside of kill this and that
>illusionary choice
>this is what Todd believes
At this point you're arguing semantics because you've been backed into a corner with nowhere else to go.

>>150338470
like 30 Gen 3's were created while I had a chat with the head of robotics, that machine never stops running, and the synths created just kinda... walk into a hole in the wall muttering "I'm new here."

Takes about a minute for these guys to be constructed, and it's running every second of every day.

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>>150321835

>"Jaysus Mary muda'o gawd, I needs to stahp speedballin' me jet wit' psycho 'cause I don't needs t'be seein' this."

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If the guy who drew this is around, it's kinda cool thanks

>>150338513
>Wut. Three Dog literally tells you to "fight the good fight" a.k.a. save the fucking wasteland.
fight the good fight is a fucking catch phrase he says to everyone, and it means doing what you can, not doing everything yourself you tard.

>Yes, only one person can hold the same opinion about Fallout 4.
Again, never implied this. As I said, you have a very distinct arguing style that is immediately identifiable.

Maybe if you could do something other then straw man and try to move goalposts you wouldn't have these problems.

>How do you think those slavers get slaves? By raiding. Who raids? Raiders. Slavers are raiders.
Slavers do not raid towns for slaves, they capture people out in the wasteland.

Also, raiders are people who raid towns to survive, slavers do that.

>Isn't much of a choice there innit?
300+ choices actually.

>I complained about it being the ONLY option, which it is.
Except its not, thinks like animal Friend, Wasteland Whisperer, and Intimidation are all about getting out of combat.

Most things in Charisma and INT are non-combat related.

>At this point you're arguing semantics because you've been backed into a corner with nowhere else to go.
Except its not semantics to pint out the very things you complained about are the very thing you turn around and say you wish.

Unarmed speical moves perks don't do shit to define your character as they are so limited in use, and you can kill so easily without that, that haven't them doesn't actually change how the game plays, its literally illusionary choice defined.

>>150338653
>like 30 Gen 3's were created while I had a chat with the head of robotics, that machine never stops running, and the synths created just kinda... walk into a hole in the wall muttering "I'm new here." Takes about a minute for these guys to be constructed, and it's running every second of every day.

You are aware thats just an animation on a loop right?

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Fucking ghouls spook the hell out of me.

>>150339248
which means it's shitty story-telling because what you see doesn't match what you're told.

>>150339479
Is this stalker?

>>150338704
Yeah, I'm here. Was fun painting it.

>>150339486
>which means it's shitty story-telling because what you see doesn't match what you're told.
You mean like basically every game ever that tells you shit thats disconnected from what you see in-game due to limitations of the game medium?

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>Courtenay Taylor will never grope me and whisper lewd things in my ear

JUST

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>tfw I have been playing on this one save for so long that I can't go to places on the map without CTD.

Guess I'm going to start a new game with the same character after Nuka World releases.

>>150339479
>green grass but brown bushes

>>150340938
Play time has nothing to do with CTDs.

Sounds like mods

>>150341038
Nah, there are some areas I just can't go to on this save, but can on a new play through. My mods are not the problem.

>>150341038
You've got to accent-uate the positive
Eliminate the negative

Latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between

You've got to spread joy up to the maximum
Bring gloom down to the minimum

Have faith or pandemonium
Liable to walk upon the scene

To illustrate my last remark:
Jonah in the whale, Noah in the ark

What did they do
Just when everything looked so dark?

Man, they said we better accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative

Latch on to the affirmative,
Don't mess with Mister In-Between

No, don't mess with Mister In-Between!

Oh yeah!

I'm fine.

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>>150340774

>Courtenay Taylor will never sign your tits

>>150339107
I hope the guy you're arguing against is just a troll for his sake. Same shit everyday.

In New Vegas you can dress up as different factions and somewhat sneak around or between them without them going hostile. I was hoping F4 would expand on that system, maybe make it something like in Hitman where your cover can be blown. But nope...

Also, I'm only about 50 hours into the game and already kinda bored of it. But that's partially because some mods I installed to alter weapons and I ended up with some OP stuff that ends any battle quickly. Dropped down all raiders at Dunwich with a single VATS use.

So I thought I'd try survival mode, used a save that leaves me out of the vault. Two minutes later I got rekt by three bloatfly.

>>150325334
That's fucking disgusting.

>>150341717
>50 hours in Casualout 4
Jesus christ, why are you torturing yourself?
Uninstall and just mod New Vegas instead.

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>>150341853
y-yeah what a loser.

>>150341669
>best voice actress, second only to Tiffany Grant and jennifer hale

>>150341989
Jesus christ, you're either extremely autistic or just plain braindead with the worst taste imagineable.
Why would you put yourself through such garbage when you could play NV more?

pirate Vaul tec when

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>>150342101
Hey I just started playing NV again. The only reason I have fewer hours in it is because I played it years ago before on console

>>150341717
The problem with faction armor is that its actually a fairly complicated series of things that would determine if a disguise owuld work or not.

For instance, if you haven't done a lot of stuff in the wasteland, its reasonable the BoS wouldn't know who you are, so a BoS disguise might work then, but if you have done a lot of things, they would most likely know who you are so a disguise, at least the kind we get in NV, wouldn't work unless you wear a helmet.

Even then, theres factions like how you walk, and how you talk, that could give you away.

After making a faction your enemy, theres basically zero chance a disguise, like those in NV, would work, since you become public enemy number 1, and everyone would know your face.

Covering yoru face would also be a problem for a faction like the BoS, again due to the way you walk and talk, but also because they are a military operation, and a solider just coming out of nowhere isn't something that happens, so they would be pretty easily able to see through your disguise.

When it comes to factions like raiders, a disguise simply wouldn't work since all raider clans are hostile to each other, meaning they would still try to attack you.

Gunners also operate on a quasi military order, and have their blood type tattoo to their face, so again, you coming up out of nowhere would make it fairly easy for them to see through it.

>>150342269
>console
Explains everything.
These are the people who browse /fog/.

>>150341038
>>150341136
Playtime with mods can effectively bteak your game. So on a clean save the mods haven't had time to build up. That's what it sounds like lad. How much time did u put n that save? And what areas. I have a 40hr vanilla playthrough i can load up and see if i have issues as well. Unless u sunk way more time then i did. Save might be broken because it's from around game release and there's been patched since

>>150341669
wew
I just wanted her to dominate me wih that sexy raspy voice.

>>150342384
this yes

>>150342194
In 8 years, when the next Fallout is released.

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>>150341853

>nv

lmao no

>>150341853
Well, the main quest was fairly short, and from what I've read it might not be worth it to replay just to align with a different faction. So I thought I'd do other things like recruiting companions and do their missions. Curie? More like Cutie, amirite. Then I just exploring, did random shit like the witchcraft museum and the churches at the glowing sea. Now I'm just wandering around. "cause I'm the wanderer..."

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Why is the lighting so shit?

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>>150342383
I have been playing that save since launch day.

>>150342651
You are aware you dont have to build a wire from the reactor to the wall piece right?

>>150342651

the lights are set to a distance of like 500 units when they should be 1000

>>150342598
Holy shit, the braindead casual masses are invading.
What the fuck happened to /fog/?

I feel disgusted just being around a dirty peasant like you.

>>150342609
she's fucking terrible and has the mind of a child
I hate kids

>>150342651
bethesda can't into lighting

>>150342792
>What the fuck happened to /fog/?
Its literally the same as its been since after Fo3 came out

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>>150342598
>tfw I too have more hours in skyrim than NV

I am feeling it

>>150339673
>The game will never keep track of the synths you killed and "rebuild" them in front of your eyes

I have
-589 hours in Skyrim
-689 in New Vegas
-464 in Fallout 4

Though to be fair, i probably have like 200-300 more hours in Skyrim due to pirating it first, then buying it once all the DLC and shit came out

>>150343156
Most of the synths you kill are Gen 1/2s who are being sent on surface duty so the Institute can get rid of them since they are outdated and are about to do the full Gen 3 roll out.

Theres really no reason for them to track/replace them, as they want them destroyed.

>>150343631
There is the Reclamation radiant quest from that blond woman in the SRB. You get 5 plasma grenades per run.

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>"Hold it, loser. You ain't getting past me unless you kiss my biceps RIGHT NOW."
What do?

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>max strength + power armor + super sledge
>half naked raider's unarmed block stumbles me

what the fuck is this bullshit

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>>150339645
Feel like taking on another waifu?

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>>150344337
How about no

>>150342490
Why? is unpiratable ?

>>150344434
Power armor strength overrides your strength.

>>150344337
Attempt to bribe with Buffout and various Buffout-based chem mixtures

>>150342758
It doesn't work for me otherwise

>>150344582
You're dumb

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/17044/?

ITS HAPPENING
weapon mods here we come!!!

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>>150344337

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzA6kMTbUQI

>>150345083

no, never ever

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>>150344337
>this

>>150339645
This based anon is the real mvp.

>>150345539
Yes very much now!

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Is there a file anywhere of the numerical values for the different graphical settings as they appear in the .ini files for Fallout 4? If I change the settings in the launcher, they won't stay that way because my files are set to read-only, and I don't want to change that because I have other settings in there that I don't want the game overwriting.

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>>150344459
Gotchu buddy

>>150346587
Looks cool!

>>150324526
Mainly because you only needed to talk to three to find him.
3dog, li, possibly moriarty

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How the fuck am I meant to connect Vault 88 through the tunnels in the cave? Does it expect me to just have a door exiting out into the cave and then you walk through the tunnel to the next section of the Vault? Or am I actually supposed to have a fucking 10-mile corridor?

>>150346681
Pretty rough at this stage but that's just some base colours

>>150346779
>Does it expect me to just have a door exiting out into the cave and then you walk through the tunnel to the next section of the Vault?
Thats what I did in terms of reaching from the main room into the water purifier room.

I just built barricades so they wouldn't walk into areas I didn't want them too

>>150346857
That's fucking gay. The Vault looks fucking stupid from the outside, I wanted one continuous structure but it's looking that won't be possible without hallways the length of a marathon.

>>150345083
>http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/17044/?

/fog/ has cemented itself into some really stupid arguments, the idea that we weren't going to get custom animations for 4 being one of the big ones.

Just sit by the riverbank and all your mods will float by. It's not hard.

>>150346779
Wide hallways, 2 or 3 piece-wide halls, domestic/utility stairs for slopes as those perfectly match up to the slopes in the area if you started from the unscrappable piece.

>>150347013
Why would what the vault looks like from the outside even matter when you're inside of the vault most of the time?

>>150337246
source?

>>150347243
Source on what?

So I've never used a gatling laser, how does them using fusion cores as ammo actually work out? Is it a well implemented concept, or is it shit? Does having nuclear physicist and the repair bobblehead make it have more ammo?

>>150346779

I didn't sweat that so much given the nature of Vaults in 4 is that they do have systems in caves.

Even though putting your reactors on a fucking earth floor is retarded.

>>150347545
>Does having nuclear physicist and the repair bobblehead make it have more ammo?
IIRC, yes it does

>>150347448
story of the bloke punching his gf cause she didn't like fallout

>>150347545
Just don't ever reload with it otherwise you'll end up with a bunch of partially drained fusion cores. Yes. Charging barrels for best ammo efficiency.

>>150347701
ohh, thats a super old pic that got passed around long time ago, not even sure I have it anymore.

>>150342319
They had years to work on it. That's not an excuse

>>150347576
I've got no problem having an exit to the cave system, given that there are escape routes and other stuff down there. But I want to be that when you enter the tunnels, you leave the Vault, not that you enter the tunnels to get to the next part of the Vault.

>>150348090
Sure it is, when theres so many variables needed to make it work even half way well, on top of the highly limited use one could get out of it given the factions involved, theres just no fucking reason to have it.

there was no reason to use faction armors in NV, theres less reason to use them in Fallout 4, why bother wasting time on something thats not going to work, and serves no purpose?

What exactly do i do with the merged patch? Do i use it instead of all the other plugins? the pastebin is vague in that place.

>>150319676
>slavery

There's literally none in-game

>>150348268
>MUH ARTIFICIAL HUMANS CAN'T BE ENSLAVED MEME!