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>Tomb Kings still not announced edition #8

>Call of the Beastmen
http://store.steampowered.com/app/404012/

>Patch notes

http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_Update_2

>FAQs & General Info
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN

>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>Total War Warhammer
Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications

>IS CALL OF THE BEASTMEN WORTH BUYING?
The Beastmen are a cool faction but the pack is a bit overpriced for what you get. There probably won't be a price drop for some time, so if you're impatient or really like the Beastmen then go ahead, otherwise wait it out.

>OVERCASTING SPELLS
Double click a spell (it needs to be a boostable spell and you need to have enough magic in the magic pool) to overcast the spell
There's a 50% chance that the caster damages itself though!

>QUEST BATTLE TELEPORT
Select your lord (make sure he isn't garrisoned or in a stance)
Select the quest battle (on the map or through quest log)
There's a button in the bottom right of the quest battle window that you can use to teleport for 5k gold (when the battle's finished you're automatically teleported back to your original position)

>GROUP ATTACK
Group units with ctrl + g
Select your group and right click the enemy
All your units move and automatically direct themselves to and engage enemies they get close to while maintaining formation

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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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Ahhh /twg/… the eternal general
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>>150179785
I mean, they are skellingtons, right?
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>>150180126
>>150180191
This rattles my bones
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>unf
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>>150180108
>>150180108
>>150180108
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>>150180126
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>>150180386
yes they do
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>>150180224
...I've seen the end of catalogs, and hours from now men will post...
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>>150180224
What's his deal anyway?
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>>150180386
Yes
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>>150180478

Servant of Tzeentch sent to undermine Archaon.
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>>150180224
Advisor is pretty chill, he seems really jaded
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>>150180448
"Here began the fall of TW"

*THROATSINGS*
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>>150180448

I'm going back to /gsg/
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>>150180448

When are they announcing Tomb Kings?
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>>150180514
I always knew Tzeentch was the best chaos.
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>>150180376
Tall people are naturally more successful.
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>>150180757

Karl Franz isn't that tall though
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>>150180815
Can you prove it?
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>>150180757
Here comes another grudge.
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>Probably have to wait another 2 month for next dlc
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>>150180850

yes
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>>150180896
Where's your proofs?
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>>150180864
here comes another dunk over your stuntie ass
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>>150180864
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>>150180757
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>>150180934

Suck my dick
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>>150180992
FUCK OFF GROBI SCUM REEEE
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>>150180864

.
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>>150181083
W-would you like that?
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>>150181190
Damn son, how tall is that guy
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>>150180864

It's okay m8, your condition can be cured
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Total war is such a shit series. How can you guys justify paying for this garbage. Maybe if they fixed unit collision and made charges more realistic like pic related I'd give CA some money but not until then.
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>>150181561
>>>
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>>150180376
He's not 10ft tall though, he's only a head or so above the other guys.
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>>150181561
kek
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>>150181646

That would be fine if it maintained correct proportions, but everything is just scaled up he looks like h has gigantism
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>>150181561
go away Reynold Sanity.
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>>150181706
Not really, he's just a normal guy that's slightly taller, if he was the same size as everyone else it wouldn't put across the whole "emperor" vibe.

Most Imperials are probably manlets anyway, he's just normal.
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ONE WALL
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>>150181786
>if he was the same size as everyone else it wouldn't put across the whole "emperor" vibe

Then they should have made him taller instead of just retardedly scaling up the model.
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>>150181786

Nah mate, it looks ridiculous.
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>>150181561

So thats how the sudden moutain of corpses appeared in the battle of the bastards
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>>150181869
You want him to look like a lankey fuck?

>>150181904
Looks fine desu, to each their own.
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TW capable of 100000+ men onscreen when
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>>150181943
>You want him to look like a lankey fuck?

I would like him to look like a human
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>>150181861
>Implying huge siege battles every happen in rome 2 and Attila.

ATTACK CONSTATINOPLE YOU HUNNIC FUCKS, GOD DAMMIT
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>>150182000
He does look human.
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Fucking faggot Estalia always trying to fuck me without lubircant while I'm beastmen with their shitty 500 doom stacks and enough heroes to drown Hercules to death
How in the living shit do I deal with this
>inb4 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammer_and_anvil
Nigga the AI isnt as braindead as my friend, I need cereal help
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>>150182073

Have you ever seen a human before?
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>>150182128
Yes, surprisingly I am one.

Being slightly taller doesn't suddenly make someone completely inhuman.
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>>150182128

Well of course. We're all man-things here.
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What are the chances of Amazons showing up as a playable race?
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>>150181861
Rate my plan of attack guis.
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>>150182184

0%. The fishmen are more likely to show up.
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>>150182175
r-right y-yeah all manthings
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>>150182184

0% outside of a mod.
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>>150182184
>playable

no, but maybe as a minor faction in Lustria. Don't expect more than 2 faces and 3 body models tho
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>>150182165
>slightly taller

His head is bigger then the torso of the rest of those models.
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>>150182000
Hes bigger because hes stronger

Strong manlets dont exist
Stunties included
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>>150182225
Seems like a good plan. Putting units upon the walls is a death sentence for the defenders in those games.
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>>150182337

I'd be legit surprised if they extend the map that far south. We'll likely just get Naggarond.
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>>150182373
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>>150182364
No it isn't.
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>>150181861
But Anon, 1wall2gates is an IMPROVEMENT. Noone liked siege battles anyway. :^)
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>>150181561
>battle of the bastards.webm
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>>150182512
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>>150182667
You know he's wearing a massive fuck-off helmet right?
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>>150182667
>spot the person who actually gets meat as part of their diet
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>>150182726
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>>150182787
>undisclosed body type
>all selfies only show her face
>loves to hike and run
I'm getting mixed signals.
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>>150182460
Honestly though, why do burgers still use imperial? It's a fucking awful measurement system.
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>>150182951

Their fat clogged brains can't handle metric
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>>150182787
What the hell is a "cosmetologist"?
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>>150182951
"isolation"

>>150183009
Luckily, NASA uses metric.
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>>150183096
>the study and application of beauty treatment
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>>150183096

Nails, hair, makeup, etc
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>>150183009
But metric is easier and makes more sense.
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>>150183275
BUT WE USE A HARDER WAY TO GET THE SAME RESULTS SO THAT MEANS WE'RE SMARTER!
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>>150181861
>>150182225
>all that land
I wonder what was it like for a civilian to be stuck on a siege on the least possible place for a fight.
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>>150183180
>>150183206
KHAZRAK HELP BORIS.
KHAZRAK MAKE BORIS LOOK BETTER.
KHAZRAK COSMETOLOGIST.
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>>150180992
>old version
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>>150183924
I fucking drew that shit, so glad someone saved it
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>>150183985
Shut your mouth its my OC I just did that myself.
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Started up beastmen on hard and had an interesting long campaign. I basically killed all the Orcs, then Dwarfs, and by the time that was done nearly every major human faction was killed by Vampires or Chaos - except Bretonnia who I had to clear out.

Near the end I was getting bored of killing things but still curious how how shit would play out with Chaos since they were friendly to me the whole game. I got about 60k favor in the bank and spammed the end turn button to see what happened/

Well about 100 turns later, after the WoC cleared out every other vampire shit, every orc shit, killed the Skaeling, and the Varg were down to two settlements they declared war on me. Not bragging or anything because of course this shit was only on hard but the fights across the ravaged northern wastes against the WoC juggernauts, fighting for supremacy at the twilight of the apocalypse, was damn cool.

Eventually Archy was killed and sacrificed to the Dark Gods, along with some random fuccboys called the Warherd of Chaos who did not appear until a bit after the WoC-Beastman war started and who would not show up on the diplomacy UI even after I spotted them on the map.

Now the world is ruled by the beastie boys who make their living migrating between Orc and Varg villages, raiding them. The cycle of life.
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>>150183985
>4chan still doesnt allow sound on /vg/
>cant post my Nasheed Doomdiver webm
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>MALAGOR.. ERRP DAR OMMEM!
>Gaahhh.....

Why does he keep sighing after saying his name? Is it embarrassing for him?
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In terms of DLC Beastmen seem relatively labour-light compared to skaven and some of the other DLC races so will CA omit special campaigns or put half the rosters behind paywalls in later DLCs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3miq277PTvg
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>>150184628
Fuck off, Arch, no one likes you.
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>>150184628
>giving Arch views
kys
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Report and ignore the shill, don't give him (You)s or visualizations.
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something interesting i've noticed is that this general, even months after release, is still 90% warhammer. compare to /gsg/ after hoi4 was released which after only a few weeks settled back into its usual victoria 2 dominated posting. so does this mean warhammer is just the best total war game or that total war was taken over by new warhammer-only players?
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>>150184628

I imagine the races that come with the major expansions won't get mini-campaigns, while the DLC ones will. Not sure about the free ones, probably not.
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>>150184628
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I like how people say that the Beastmen DLC is split $8 race and $12 for the campaign, based on the fact that Chaos is race only for $8.

The beastmen race took WAY more effort to make than Chaos lol. Clearly people who say this know absolutely nothing about animating, game design or game development
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>>150180126
How are bestigors, chosen, saurus and stormvermin compared to each other lore wise and in TT? Is it chosen>saurus>bestiors>stormvermin?
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>>150184867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TehjKoZDhwg

Chaos dwarfs, Skaven, even wood elves need all original units yet are intended as DLC for this game. There's no way they can make them as complete races with unique mechanics if the beastmen, which were just a greenskin horde with 8 new units, are the benchmark for the effort we can expect CA to put into a DLC. Also its a shame they didn't add any empire units, would have liked some original dwarf units in a skaven karak eight peaks DLC or something.
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>>150185094
FUCK OFF ARCH
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>>150184062
you wish cuck boy
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>>150185205

I had that happen on my dwarf campaign too.

A+++ 10/10 quality CA
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>>150185075
Lore-wise Chosen would absolutely beat any of the other three, Saurus pretty much equal bestigors and Stormvermin come last. In TT in terms of if you'd ever use any of them, only saurus and stormvermin are worth it. Stats wise Chosen come top, then saurus, then bestigors and last stormvermin.
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>>150184628
>>150185094
friendly reminder to report people shilling e-celebs
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>>150185075
In tabletop the main rule was
>Great weapons > Halberds > Everything else
because strength (and the armour save modifier that came with it) was king.

So on that basis, chosen (great weapons) and bestigors are at the top; then stormvermin, chosen (halberds) and temple guard; then chosen (hand weapons) and basic saurus warriors.
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>>150185353
Actually thats not really the case. Saurus are much better overall because they get a parry save and extra attacks for every six they roll with an already good strength. As for stormvermin, you can field 50 of them for as much as 25 chosen or 40 bestigors and they'd win everytime.
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G O B L I N S
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>make a promise to myself to fight every battle in my new VH Empire campagin
>chaos comes and Norscan's start to trickle in
>every army is nothing but marauder horsemen

Dropped that promise like a bag of puppies.
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What CA should have done with the eye for an eye minicampaign is wait a bit and make Boris/Middenheim a playable faction, so that they could actually sell them separately
They probably don't make much from the minicampaign in that case since most people don't care about them, but a lot more people would have bought beastmen as a standalone race
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Why do you guys not like siege battles in Warhammer?

I feel like there could be more map variety, but that's really my only complaint.
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>>150186049
I like them, actually. Just wish pathing wasn't full retard.
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>>150186049
I've never liked siege battles in any total war. Mainly because you never, ever get to defend.
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>>150186049

Mostly just because the lack of variation. It's all just helms deep over and over and over.

Previous TW games would let you try to get on the other side of the city/fort and split the army or try to sneak in... you had the entire fort to play with.

Now you get 1, MAYBE two walls if you get that corner map.
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>>150185062
>t. somebody who knows shit about game development

also, check the Chaos roster again, and tell me how there was less effort involved in it
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I AM THE GREATEST SORCERER
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>>150186049

I don't mind them. I kind of wish they said to hell with balance and had each faction have it's own wall type.
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>>150185353

>Chosen with great weapons

why would you waste such a good initiative score, you're much better off giving them halberds. they'd tear through every other faction's elite infantry with the exception of some elf shit because they wouldn't get the first swing

Chosen in general weren't really taken because the only thing they offered over the basic chaos warriors was the extra WS and the ability to take halberds. not really worth the points increase.
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>>150186248

> shit about game development
> 10 year vet programmer at an AAA studio

nah bruh.

Chaos is relatively easy because the models are all just regular humans. There's significantly more animation work going into beastmen than another bipedal standard leg humanoid skeleton.

You might want to learn a bit about animation and rigging, chump
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>>150185605
They really wouldn't. And points cost didn't matter much, everyone made the 40-strong horde of heavy armour/great weapon dudes the first thing on their list so they always had enough points "spare" to make that unit.
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>>150186385
>at an AAA studio
Which? Not that anon, just curious.
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>>150186385
>Implying you know shit

I'm a lead programmer at Blizzard with 30 years of experience. You don't know shit, kid, so don't even try to act like you didn't just get owned.
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>>150185165
Wanna fight me irl? pic is me.
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>>150186049
More map variety would be nice, and a bigger area inside cities to fight in since they look great, but the AI didn't really make that good use of all the space that was in sieges in previous games.
>>150182225 has it right, the AI isn't really going to retreat and use all that space it has. Something the next historical total war game could work on is more layered city defenses.
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>>150186309

I AM THE FUCKING STRONG
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>>150186494

EA
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>>150186738
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>>150185353
Halberds weren't even a thing back when I played tabletop, there were just 1h weap, 2h weap and spears if I remember correctly.

What do they do?
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>>150186385
>all just humans
Manticore, Chaos dragon, Gorebeast, Chaos spawn and Dragon Ogres also, all Chaos "humans" do use a different skeleton than normal humans

Compared with, generic gor model, minotaurs and that's it...
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>>150186918
Halberds have been in the game for well over 15 years anon, they give +1 S, depending on edition you also could carry a shield to get a save when not in melee IIRC
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>>150185062
Because that was pretty much Attila's pricing model.
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>>150186932

Don't Ungors, Gors and Bestigors all have different models?
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>>150185929
Use the better recruitment mod. I did, and now their armies are actually a challenge because they spend their money more on armored trolls than horsies. Plus they get a couple elite units with the mod I'm using.
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>>150187040
Yes.
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>>150187040

Yea people in this general have this notion of "reskin", thinking that you can basically take an existing model and drop new skin on top and have a whole new army. This makes them drastically undervalue the time required to make these assets and thus, the bitching about pricing
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>>150187040
Models yes, but they all share animations and skeletons
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>>150187146
>thinking that you can basically take an existing model and drop new skin on top and have a whole new army
This is basically every other dlc from the previous TWs.
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>>150187172
They dont.
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>>150187172
>Ungors can be armed with bows, spears, spears and shields, axes and shields
>Gors can be armed with two axes, axes and shields
>Bestigors are armed with two-handed axes
There is precisely one overlap there (axes and shields). How are they all sharing animations again?
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>>150187208

That's because the difference between european factions are basically a new 3d mesh and some stats changes with a unique feature here and there. It takes nothing to make.

Then you look at Chaos and Beastmen which require entirely new models, skeletons, animations which means modelling, rigging, hand animating especially on the non humanoids that they cant do any kind of mocap... a TON more work goes into TWW DLC than previous total war games.

Then you add into the fact that GW is taking a huge license cut because they are jews and CA is having minimal margins
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>>150187348
>GW is taking a huge license cut
I love this meme.
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Do tired units recover fatigue during a battle if they slow down/do nothing?

Like if I have some tired guys and just put them in a line and standing still, will they eventually recover fatigue or does it only replenish after battle
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Is there any point in continuing the battle after you've won just to chase down those extra kills?
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>>150187495
They will recover during battle
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>>150187536

Yes. Each kill = more exp. If you dont chase them, they can escape and then they are back on the campaign map not dead. You only kill who you kill, so if you dont kill them they dont die
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>>150187536

It's good to finish off lords/heroes/elite units before ending the battle imo.
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>>150187035
if they just give +1S than they're just great weapons
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>>150187495
yes, but it takes so long you might as well push on

>>150187536
yes, makes it much easier to finally wipe out a enemy stack, and, if playing as the Cunts, gives you time to regroup wounded units and heal them back to full HP

let the Lord escape if possible tho, you don't want a full health lord (or god forbid it, a legendary lord) to come back
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>>150187650
Great weapons give +2 and make you attack always last, unless there's a difference in newer rules/translation took some license. I never played with english rules. Anyway halberds were the middle ground between heavier weapons and basic 1 handed.
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>playing as Empire, fighting a battle against secessionists on that big map with all the trees
>zoom into men whilst I'm waiting for the enemy to approach
>distinctly hear beastmen noises through the trees
spooky
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>>150181423
That looks so fucking painful.

God, surgery is just carpentry with bones.
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>>150188140

It would be if you weren't unconscious during the procedure...
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>>150181423
Why would anyone do this
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>>150188140

No pain compares to the life of a manlet
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>>150181423
Surely that procedure will leave you looking like some disproportion ostrich-man? Tall people are tall all over, they've got longer everything, not just longer legs.
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>>150188220
You'll wake up eventually, and I can guarantee you it will be fucking torture when you do. Painkillers can only do so much.
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>>150188140
it's for big guys
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>>150188220
It would hurt like fuck when you wake up. Trust me I have had less serious surgery on my leg than that and it hurt for days afterwards.
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>>150188292

> Painkillers can only do so much

I guess you've never actually had major surgery? The opiates you get are fucking heaven.
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>>150188283
An inch or two in the legs isn't out of the ordinary at all. I knew a guy who was like 1/3rd torso and 2/3rds legs and he looked perfectly normal until he took his shirt off, and he was still totally fuckable.
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>>150188279
This is the best meme
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>>150188278
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>>150188292
>Painkillers can only do so much.

Clearly you've never had morphine.
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>>150188334
I've had two major surgeries, and unless they're going to let you bum around in hospital for weeks sooner or later they'll send you home and cut off the good drugs.

It is fun while it lasts though.
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>>150188478

You must be around shit doctors.

Good doctors set you up with tons of Vicodin and bam, no pain for months
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>>150188529
I'm Australian, so that might explain it.
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>>150188390

Hi Prince of Macedon
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Post obscure /twg/ memes that only oldfags will understand
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>>150188602
Isn't that a jew though
And nice projection, but I see plenty of short guys with good looking girlfriends, if that's what you are getting at
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What are the good traits to pick up for Khazrak? I assume movement into something else, and then eventually lightning strikes and horde growth?
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>>150188686
He is turk/greek
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>>150188695

Lightning strike sucks for Beastmen.

There's never a time that your 4 stack can't just demolish the enemy, regardless of their reinforcements.

You do have 4 stacks, right?

2 Herds + 2 Brayherds.
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>>150188632
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>>150188686
that is turkish roach king emperor
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>>150188632
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>>150187605
I thought some of a routed unit are lost when they flee a battle/are fleeing at the end of the battle. Is that the case in warhammer? It was in attila, for example some of the horsefucker factions had a trait that they didn't suffer this on cavalry units that ran.
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>>150188686
>I see plenty of short guys with good looking girlfriends, if that's what you are getting at

Oh fuck! we got a live one here!
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>>150188408
>tfw when manlet that likes really tall girls
it is a mixed feel.
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>>150188953
>tfw peasant
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>>150188953
>mfw I don't even make the chart
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>>150188686
>I see plenty of short guys with good looking girlfriends
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>>150188378
>I knew a guy who was like 1/3rd torso and 2/3rds legs

Australian detected
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>>150182787
>4th screen shot from the left
look at that fat face.
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>>150188801
I see, I guess i'm use to it at a universal thing.

Well, should I make him a melee beast? Focus on horde growth instead? I have a gorebull for melee carnage half the time, so it seems I don't need both Khazzy and the bull.
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>>>/fit/
How about you post undeads instead
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>>150189242

Khazrak isnt as useful in melee as just a gorebull.

Best to use Khazrak to bolster the growth, reduce upkeep and siege holdout
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>>150188686
>I see plenty of short guys with good looking girlfriends

oh wow
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>>150189242

Give him his chariot and he can wreck shit even without combat upgrades.
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>>150188686
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>>150189303
That's what I figured, thanks.
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>>150189306
Not him, but I don't see how that is so unlikely. Even if someone is short he can still be good looking.
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>>150189303
I use the beastlords of the ungor stacks that follow my shitkicker (minotaur, cygor and bestigor) stacks around to have the siege holdout skills. If I want to attack that turn the main stack hits it and kicks in the gates, if not the ungor stack beseiges. Saves a couple of skill points.
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>>150188953
>Imperial units

Can someone make this chart in a not-mongoloid system?
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>>150189303
gorebull has a load of really nice army-wide buffs though, it's strange because he's really powerful but he's designed as a support hero. you should definitely focus on the buffs first at least. he's also pretty good at assassinations and damaging armies/garrisons. khazrak with chariot gets more kills most of the time than my gorebull.
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>>150189789
But then it loses its point.
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>>150189584
>Even if someone is short he can still be good looking.
>Implying facial aesthetics will save you
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>enemy attacks my city, don't have walls
>hide my small garrison in forests across the map
>don't find them within an hour
>give up instead of marching onto the undefended city
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>>150189818

Gorebull assassinations come no where near the Bray Shaman in terms of ability. The bray shaman gets a skill for bonus to success, so you can get upwards of 60-70% asssination success.
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>Sarthorael attacks me and my Averlander ally
>"sweet, an interesting battle for once"
>Averander army appears behind Sarthorael's army
>they walk

Boy, another auto-resolved battle!

Thanks CA
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>>150189584
You're taking the memes at face value, a lot of tall people are insecure about their height because it naturally makes them stand out, and obviously not everyone is able to handle it. Especially true for girls. So they shitpost about an easier target to divert normie attention and feel better because they're on the same side.
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>>150182448
>warhammer
>without lizardmen

nah, plus there's that leak in the files
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>>150182921
>all selfies only show her face
Half of them are showing her body though.
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>>150188686
>I see plenty of short guys with good looking girlfriends, if that's what you are getting at
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How does the ship sail the river with such low bridges?
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>Release a fanatasy game
>No elf faction on release
>First faction is some furry shit no one wanted

Jesus Christ CA.
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>>150182921
>loves to hike and run

All fat chicks claim to be fitness fanatics.

They just have roles of fat due to genetics obviously! No matter how little they eat whilst running half marathons every wednesday, their love handles remain!
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>>150190139
It doesnt. It unloads, then boats carry the goods deeper in.
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>>150189584
>Even if someone is short he can still be good looking
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>>150190160
>wanting elfes

Why would you want some arrogant sissies that hide in the woods?
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>>150190073
What leak?
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>>150190139
A lot of littoral trade ships had removable masts. It certainly wasn't quick or easy, but necessary.
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>>150190316
>being new
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>>150190316
Its fake anyway
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>>150189984
T.Manlet
You are right about taking a meme seriously tho.
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>>150190316
the one I posted alongside my post
>>150190448
no it's not, it's in the startpos file
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>>150190139

they would just throw the mast up into the air as they got close to the bridge, so they would go under the bridge and catch the mast on the other side

like a skateboarder
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>>150190448
So far it's been proven accurate.
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>>150190396
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCK YOU
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What's wrong with this thread?
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>>150189984
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>>150190294
Not him but High Elves are pretty much the main good guys of Warhammer so not having them in is weird.
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>its a manlet bullying episode

Always makes me laugh
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>>150190559
Someone post the chaos dwarf edit.
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Why aren't Gyrocopters/bombers good? They should feel stronger, you're BOMBING people for fuck's sake
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>>150190641
> good guys

They are self righteous assholes who only give a fuck about themselves.
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>>150190684

they are good. have you tried not using them wrong?
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>>150190473
>>150190568
You can drop the act guys, we're on the internet here
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>>150190731
They literally keep the world from being swallowed by the gods of Chaos.
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>>150190641

The only true good guys in WF are Lizardmen and Tomb Kings, everyone else is neutral at best.
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>>150190798

Because they don't wanna die, they wouldn't hesitate to throw any of the other races off a bridge if they thought it was necessary.
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>>150190684
Have you even payed attention how much health damage they do to the unit they drop bombs on?
You realise if they dont kill any models - it doesnt mean they are "useless" right?
Bombers are used to soften up the enemies, then your ground units can mop them up.
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>>150190641
>t. Teclis Barbossa
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>>150183009
>be british
>use french system

Lol
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>>150190765

In all seriousness though Height is just one of those traits that is universally attractive to all women, and no women want to date a man shorter than her.
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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Hashut want more slaves!!!
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>>150190798
That's mostly the lizardmen though. At least on the magical side of things.

The Elves just float about the world going "WE'RE HELPING" while mankind is taking the brunt of Chaos.

Not saying they don't do anything but they don't help as much as they think they are.
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>>150190641
>the main good guys of Warhammer

t. Teclis
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>>150191178

tfw you will never get to crawl on your knees to your lord malagor and slurp his slimy goat dick
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>>150191045
That's one of the reasons making tall people overly worried about their height, it makes finding a partner more difficult. Not to mention that as always extreme cases tend to get completely avoided.
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>>150191183
Why do non-chaos dawi mention Hashut? Or am I hearing things?
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>>150188695
Why should you edit her beautiful yandere moth eyes with regular anime eyes?
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>>150191584
>Edit

It's official art frienderino.
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Now what the fuck do i do here?

Vampire counts are coming at me with a 20/20 army, it has 2x20/20 armies somewhere in the fog of war.

Averland is coming at me with a 20/20 army as well.

And down below, Karak Hirn is coming at me with a 20/20 army.

All i can afford is a single 20/20 army without going into bankruptcy.

What the fuck do i do now? I have no military allies because they're all stubborn pieces of shit.

Empire campaign fucking sucks
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>>150191290

is only your imagination
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>>150191731
But I keep hearing them scream "Hashut! Hashut!"
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>>150191684
Win.
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>>150191684
You restart your campaign and play the fucking diplomacy paying attention to who likes/hates who next time.
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>>150191184

>Slann still believing any of them have as much magical talent as Teclis
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>>150191684
And would you look at that.

I missed that there's a 19/20 coming towards Gorssel as well.

I'm in a position where i'm fuck no matter what i do now.
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>>150188632
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>>150191684
How the fuck did you piss off the dwarfs?
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>>150188632
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>>150191873
Should i just spend all my money on gifts? It's like i'm fucked from the start because Aversion.
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>>150186049
I like them i just had you very rarely get to play defender because the AI would rather drown you in 2-3 full stack armies than try a more fair fight.

More map variation would be good. Having at least the important cities being bigger or with unique elements. kind of like how that one city has a giant cannon to defend it, stuff like that.


I'd also prefer if ladders were a equipment option rather than things that pop out of thin air when you get close to the walls. But that's not really important and overall been enjoying what I've experienced.
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Is Shogun 2 TROM3 supposed to be not showing up in the mod manager?
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>>150191684
Go west
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>>150191950
Great Power -20 was enough for them to attack me.
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>>150191184

>mostly the Lizardmen

The Vortex was designed and executed by Caledor. The Slann helped when he asked them to, but by no means did they 'mostly' take care of the magical side of things.
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>>150188632
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>>150192030
Not what I meant.
Take your time and explore the diplomacy map and find out how your neighbors relate to eachother. If they all hate VCs - then that's one of your primary targets. Even deploying an agent in their territory will net you +reputation with factions that hate them.
Same course of action against everyone else around you. Find the faction, attacking wich would piss off the least number of your neighbors and only then attack it. Only gift gold if you're feeling comfortable with your armies and economy.
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ARE YOU READY? to pay for more dlc

2017 gunna be good though
>Expansion 1
>Womb Kinks
>Scrapple rats
>who cares after this point
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>>150191684
You are building walls right?

Vampires should be little trouble because their early units suck hard

Sacrifice your territories in Talabecland and Wissenland (try to keep Nuln tho) you should be able to handle Averland

Try to sue for peace with Karak Hirn asap, fighting dwarfs is annoying as fuck
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>>150188632
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>>150188632
The Week of Thousand Maps was fun but nobody ever seems to remember it.

Granted it was before Rome II was released.
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>>150192376
>Zacharias
>Not Isbella
s m h t b h CA
s m h
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>>150192376
>Wood Elf campaign pack
>2 factions and a hero
Too generous.
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>>150192345
Well i did. Nobody would grant me military access though so i couldnt attack their enemies. Gave a bunch of gifts as well.

I didnt bring agents into their enemies territories though, i'll try that this new campaing.

Also, why the fuck do i start with Trespassing -16 against marienburg in a fresh game?
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>>150192514
>no Thera for newer games

Attila has enough assets put into it that we might be able to pull it off
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>ywn fight four Greater Daemons by yourself while the fate of the world hangs in the balance
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>>150192376
I want to believe in this, I really, really do.
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>>150192453
>hating on based 18th century uniforms
How do these people even live with themselves?
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>>150192531
1 faction is already in
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>>150192698
ssssupp
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>>150188632
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>>150192821
Dont know,must be really depressing hating on them uniforms, probably the same people who download no floppy hats mods.
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>>150192125
You must be new.

In the days before official modmanager and steamworkshop support at FoTS release, modders like to use movie format because it doesnt need activation like mod files
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>>150192860

>let reddit rats literally shit in his sacred pools
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>>150192862

What has he been up to lately?
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>>150192453
>pop historians cannot appreciate 18th century uniforms
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>>150192830
It's not officially playable nor is it fully fleshed out.
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>>150192908
Thanks bruv
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>>150193029
Shitting up this very thread with TWW hate.
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>>150193172
yer sure he's in twg?
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>>150192531

It's probably going to be the last DLC release for the year though and it makes sense. Bretonnia for obvious reasons since I imagine they'll feature prominently in the Wood Elf campaign. And the Lore of Life has spells that all revolve around nature, regrowth and such, Lore of Life was also a big part of Bretonnian magic in TT, Prophetess's and Damsels used it frequently.
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>>150192259
IGdood?
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Hey this is the dude who posted his channel in the last thread. I want to have 2 campaigns being uploaded at once to change it up for myself. So I figured I would let you guys make requests. I want to keep it in Medieval II for now. But just shoot out some country names and I will do a campaign playthrough of one of them while also talking about the history of that country.

Though if it is Hungary it would perhaps be better called Zoology.
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>>150193727
There's a lot of old memes in there, IGdood, Catamite, EB2, Official Licenced Europa Barbarorum Action Briefs, Segmentata, Pontus and a few others. Also a reference to the CA dev that came here.
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>>150191183
Wtf is even Hashut?
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>>150194013
Hes a minor Chaos god who showed the Chaos Dwarfs favor in their hour of need when they where off dying in the desert. Since then hes become the only god they'll acknowledge given none of the others did anything.

He also happens to be kind of a giant prick with a bull fetish.
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>>150193870
Vampire Counts have a all doggo army
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>>150192453
I am so fucking triggered right now by taste this poor.
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>Its another "Varg shits out two stacks a turn" end to the campaign
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>>150194595
>Its another "Surtha Ek is the true lord of the End times" Episode
>tfw I had enough of his shit
>Conquer the north
>Build temples and farms out the ass
>Constantly sack and loot his provinces just for shits and giggles
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>>150192453


>hating on 8th century swag-uniforms


what absolute disgusting """human beings"""
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>>150194350
minor Chaos gods.... that shit exists?
Well that was pretty nice of him, how come they cooperate with other Chaos then if only Hashut gave a fuck about them?
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>>150195032

18th*
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>>150194509
Perhaps in the future. But for now I want to do a Medieval campaign.
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>>150193870
Venice is still a thing in that game right?
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When should you just let the comp decide the fight for you instead of playing it yourself?
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>>150195125
They don't give a fuck about any particular chaos warband, but they sell high quality armor and weapons and such in return for slaves. Chaos worshippers just happen to be in a good position to do business with them.

The best suits of Warrior and Chosen armor are made by them. Also sometimes they loan out mercenary Hellcannons.
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>>150195686
When half the enemy army is ranged cavalry.
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>>150193870
Play Venice, genocide the Milanese, shove your foot up Byzantium's ass and defend the world from the Mongols.
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>>150195686
When fights are extremely onesided.
The exception is if you have a full stack of decent units against multiple enemy armies, you can pull out victories even when the odds are against you if you.
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>>150195686
When it's more than 2vs2 stacks

It's fucking painful to manage all that shit
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>>150195720
Arent most of their slaves goblins and orcs anyways? what do they need slaves for?
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>>150181423
[cringes externally]
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>>150196280
Sacrifices
Mining
Entertainment
IIRCC
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>>150193870
I suggest that you download Stainless Steel, it's harder, funnier to watch and more historically accurate so maybe easier for you to talk about history.

That being said, France or Byzantium are both good faction to play as and historically interesting, vanilla or not
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>>150195582
>>150195856
Venice is still around. That could be fun. They have a rich history and from a roleplaying perspective it would be fun to be destroying the monarchical countries as a republic.
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>>150196435
Can I turn the mod on and off like Crusader Kings 2 mods?
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guys is this site safe to buy from?
https://www.hrkgame.com/games/product/total-war-warhammer-call-of-the-beastmen/?utm_source=gocdkeys&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=comparison

If it 13 bucks thats a deal.
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>>150195125
Yeah. Horned Rat is another, for example. I can't actually think of a third.
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>>150196667
g2a is reliable from what I hear and its where I bought ck2 for like half its total price with all dlc
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>>150185252
>implying that wasn't intentional
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>>150196614
Well I have the game from a disk so that may be different for you but there are no mod manager for med2 so it just creates a new shortcut for the mod which means that you can play a campaign with the mod and a vanilla one if that's what you are asking.

It works just like you had two different games
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>>150195125
>>150196785
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Chaos_Gods_of_Law
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>>150196792
but this site seems alright and its the cheapest here. it seems g2a has a hrk promo on the weekly sale list anyway.
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>>150196915
Sounds pretty. Sweet. I will put it on my list of things to do. Thanks senpai. SInce you said it was harder I will do that after I get a couple VH/VH vanilla campaigns under my belt.
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>>150196785
There's a list somewhere, I think Kaine is one? maybe? I remember one of the Dark Elf ones being a weird Elf/chaos mix.
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>>150196982
>1d4chan
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>>150196982
>1d4chan.org
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>>150197246
>>150197136
>not liking 1d4chan.
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Why is Devolve so OP? Massive area of effect, and kills like 40% of the units.
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>>150197485
pay2win faction
It will get nerfed when sales die down.
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>>150182184


>tfw no Rise of the Empire


I want feral human tribal warfare back in the days when they were axe wielding barbarians strong as orcs
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I got the price down to 13.57 with a extra 3% off on hrk, cool. maybe its actually worth buying it now.
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>>150197579
Do people actually believe this?
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>>150197485
To emphasize how you absolutely need to rape beastman leaders
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>>150197485

It's the reason Malagor can't fly around.
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rattle rattle
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>>150198557

>hello little chinamen
>did you ever hear about how i wuz tomb kangs
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>>150199076
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>luminark gets a perfect flank shot to a Chosen pack, wiping out a entire line of demon fuckers

Best feeling.
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>>150197869
I'm disappointed we didn't get more female units. Warhammer has plenty of opportunity for it.

Norscan valkyries or something.

CA is happy to add ahistorical female units into their history games (like Rome 2 where 70% of barbarian troops were apparantly female) but in a pure fantasy setting we get nothing but vampfu?
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>>150192376

>not caring about ogres
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>>150188632
Iam an oldfag already?
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>>150181423
no sound
I added my own sfx in my head
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>>150199747

Lore, nigger. Now fuck off and wait for elves like the rest of us.
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Empire religious buildings really need a cost or a tier reduction or both. With Beastfaggots now the Chaos corruption spread is way higher and it's fucking annoying having to juggle so much bullshit with the Empire early on now.

Turn 20 I already have 20% Chaos corruption in Reikland because Khazrak made a b-line for it and is spreading it like crazy. And I still can't afford the shitty expensive Tier 3 building because they have to compete with my limp early economic push.

>Empire
>Normal

My asshole CA.

>Shrine
>Tier 1, 1750 Gold
>Reduces Corruption +3

>Temple
>Tier 3, 6000
>Reduces Corruption +8
>Enable Warrior Priest Recruitment
>Enable Witch Hunter Recruitment

>Cathedral
>Tier 5, 12000
>Reduces Corruption +16
>+6 Witch Hunter/Warrior Priest Rank
>+2 Hero Capacity

Cheaper early worship structure to combat Chaos/Vampires but that lose their recruit option. Same cost for current Tier 3, both heroes become recruitable but you lose the rank bonus and capacity bonus. More expensive, but more impact Tier 5 for Provincial Capitols designed around pumping out high powered heroes.
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>>150200863
>There are no female fighters in Warhammer lore
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>>150201348
> dumb waifu-poster

Jack off BEFORE you start playing, idiot
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>>150201506


but he is right you retard
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>>150201348
Not in the factions currently available there aren't.
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>>150201506
not wanting to play a game that gets you excited so you fap like 8 times in one day due to constant arousal
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>Eric Phillips Jr. I saw your conversation on How the Romans were more superior and how we were conquered and that is invalid. Do some research man, I thought the same thing until I dug a little deeper. The Romans was established by moores, meaning the first emporer was indeed African. The first EUROPEAN was indeed African Nomads by way of Pangea. We populated the earth had established trade around the world before whites were thought of, we had the first college which probably led to them learning our technology ( Timbuktu ) On top of that Ethiopia was never conquered or colonized, those are facts. Plus if Rome was all powerful How come they fell to Hannibal? What happened to them being superior. That my friend is check mate. Embrace your culture bruh. We are powerful people, we made the world. Melanin that's all I have to say.
I'm dead I'm ead I AM FUCKING DEAD! I thought this shit was a /pol/ meme untill I saw it linked on my facebook feed. Holy fucking shit my sides have been obliterated!

https://www.face
book.com/ATLBlackStar/videos/874179559383485/
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>Dragon ogres and dragon ogre shaggoths anti-large

Mobile counter cavalry is pretty great but every faction is getting this shit. Why?
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>>150202145
please dont bring fucking facebook shit here
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Do you still need the better AI recruitment mod, or did CA finally fix it?

I remember playing on vanilla, and the fucking orks had like 10 goblin archers in every army.
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>>150201882
This is not Skyrim modded
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>>150202323

still need it, AI buys dumbshit only without it.
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>>150202301
but this is relevant to /twg/ this guys obviously played Hannibal at the Gates. Otherwise I have no idea where he got this shit from
>Plus if Rome was all powerful How come they fell to Hannibal? What happened to them being superior. That my friend is check mate
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>>150202347
skyrim is more like spend all day being frustrated trying to get your load order right and then fap once and uninstall.
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>>150202580
More like all month, then realizing sex mods aren't worth it.
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>>150202145
wtf half of those guys are Egyptian. Only Mansa Musa was kinda truthfull
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>>150202580
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What kind of infantry comp should I run for an anti-Hun army besides puckering my asshole
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>>150183409
How many of your commie-unit using socialist shit states have been to the moon?

Check mate, atheists.
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Wait is that a . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykwqXuMPsoc
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>not heroic
What exactly are the requirements for a Heroic victory?
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>>150203141
the USSR actually got to the moon first just not with people
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>>150188632
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>>150203237
You lost too many troops
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>It's a the entire enemy is pistolierss and outriders episode
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>>150203057
Slav archers?
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>tfw all the small orks factions are dead, greenskin settlements are razed and their army constantly suffer from attrition
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>>150203237
You've got to be severely outnumbered and still steamroll the enemy from what I've gathered. Your armies were too close in size, and your losses too great
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>turn 135
>Archaon still hasn't spawned
Is that normal
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>>150203798
>tfw still cant get past the turn 11-13 waaagh on legindary dorf

I guess ill just play on normal mode
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Okay, how the fuck do I keep the introduction of chaos from breaking my game? Every time Chaos pops up in my single player campaign the camera does it's little special event camera path as it goes to the northlands then it breaks and I can't move any of my units or continue to the next turn. This has broken two different campaigns so far.
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What's the best artillery for dwarfs?
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>on Hard
>in battle the game refuses to pause or change speeds for no fucking reason
>doesn't even pause when I open the menu
literally terrifying
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>>150204865
>One guy has the only floppy hat AND the most badass facial hair

Guess we know who's going to be the sole survivor of this particular patrol through the Drakwald
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>Not having a stack of Ungor spearmen to act like a sponge for you main army
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>>150205205
okay so it happened again, wtf is going on
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>go to bathroom to take a shit
>physically cannot poop the shit out as though the shit is wider than my asshole
>have to use toilet paper as though I'm wiping my ass to dig the shit out so that it is reduced enough for me to shit it out

This has never happened to me before
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>>150205023
Organ Gun
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>>150205659
Thanks for sharing.
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>>150205659

#beastmenthings
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I'm ripping some farts right now that would peel paint of the wall, am I turning into a beastman?
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>>150206103
karl franz really have a penchant for his own name. carving it onto walls and shouting it out in battle randomly.
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Genevieve Dieudonné legendary hero when?
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fucking slayers
whats the point in paying those fuckers
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>still no option to trade regions

how fucking hard is it to just copy paradox
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>>150206775
why would you trade when you can just take his?
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>>150201348
>tfw no cute orc gf
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Poor little Veneti man
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As CA said they are searching technologies "never seen before", what will be the next historical total war?

My bet are on Asia, Victorian era or XVIth-XVIIth century
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>>150206426

KARL FRANZ
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>>150207021
ASIA PLS
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>>150204105
>Turn 140
>Chaos finally arrives in orc territory
>killed Archaon, Kholek, Sigvald and three other doomstacks led by literally whos
>"An Age of Peace"
Well, that was kinda anti-climatic.
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>>150207228
>Hey guys, I made this new unit, "terracotta guard". They're basically the same models as the current units but I coloured them red, and gave them 10x the health and armour. I think they're friendly to the lore of this historical period.
>Radious
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>>150206857
i don't want to war some fuckhuge empire just to satiate my province autism
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>>150205659
t. Khazrak
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So if Zacharias the Everliving is the liege lord added in, do you think they'll also add a new province in the Forest of Shadows for the vampires?
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>>150203237

The only heroic victory i ever got was when i was outnumbered 4:1 as empire against undead and i facerolled all of them while sustaining like 10% casualities.

A single cav charge followed up by greatswords broke an entire army that wanted to spawn right next to me, the rest trickled in like a line of idiots and got insta wrecked by whatever the musket unit was called.
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>>150205659
have a better diet you fat shit
or get a spoon
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Did I do well, lads?

They took my capital, but I ruined their army and took theirs the next turn.
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Cygors or giants?
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>>150207413
>age of peace
>all faction cancel your alliance and trade agreement

Yeah it's not like I canceled the apocalypse, you fucks
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>>150207685
I keep getting heroics against VC as dwarfs
AI cant into countering siege nor does it use enough greatswords
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>>150208009
Cygors.

>>150207480
Coward. Maybe you could incite a rebellion then?
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>>150207594
That sounds nice, too nice.

So probably not.
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>tfw my army runs away after a few minutes of hiding in trees because they're so massively out-numbered even though they haven't actually seen the enemy
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>reinforcement spawn just in front of the enemy
Fuck you
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>>150208989
I saw that happen when my beastmen approach a small army, but I don't think I saw it before the latest patch. Anybody see this before the patch dropped?
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Beastmen DLC good? you guys enjoying it?
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>>150208989
fuck savage orcs man
whenever Im playing dwarfs they bring in like 4 of boyz, 2 boar boyz and 30 arra boyz
I can outshoot most of them and then I have to make my dwarves chase rest of the ranged units until they hit the back corner
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>>150204865
>>150205287
Of course he'll survive, he's fucking captain price

COD Warhammer when?
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>>150192376

>good in melee
>great with magic

But we already have Manny, then again

>Isabelle: Dead
>Vlad: Dead
>Konrad: Dead
>Literal whos
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>>150208009
Cygors

>Watching that boulder smash into enemy units
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>Bjornlings
What's the point of this guys? they never survive more than a few turns
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>end up with 5 enemy doomstacks chasing me down
>Lead them through a ruse cruise in chaos attrition territory

I can only hope to strike them when they're weak.
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>>150210461
they're there so that dwarves/orcs won't completely unaffected by the chaos invasion

but since dwarves rape everthing and they don't have a giant corrupt home continent they eventually die out.
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>>150209948
There is an event in game called Whispers of Vlad. You get negative growth and you are told of rumors that Vlad has been resurrected. Death doesn't take that easily for vampires, it just takes someone with a lot of power to resurrect them.
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>>150192376
>Greenskins with 4 LLs while Empire still have 2

If this happens, it seems like pretty poor planning on CA's part.
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>>150195032
>>150194579
>twn be an Empire II
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>>150210592
> comfortably maintaining an army of all chosen/warriors
> would love to fight a massive battle and pile high the bodies of weak southerners
> can only fight single stacks cowering inside their towns

Is this the price of power?
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>>150211018
Plus, while Belegar's lore is cool, he's basically just a pumped up Dwarf lord when you've got Thorek Ironbrow who could bring the Anvil of Doom into the roster to spice things up.

That DLC would also make more sense when the Skaven have been added to the game so you can have Queek Headtaker joining in the fun.
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>>150210592
This is why you always take lightning strike as a horde faction.
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>Play as Malagor, spawn in Badlands
>Generic Beastmen horde in Estalia

>Play as Khazrak, spawn in Estalia
>Nothing spawns in the Badlands

That sucks, I was hoping there would be generic bray herd there just wreaking havoc on the Top Knotz and other Orc tribes.
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This guy comes in and slap your gf ass, what you do ?
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>>150211861
Tell him she doesn't have a dick which will immediately put him off
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>>150211861
Raise the Dead
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CA are such cockteases. In addition to that harpie follower and the campaign event about a Jabberslythe I just saw a loading screen quote from a Doombull.
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>>150211953
what's the story behind this pic ?
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Who here likes testing combat stats?

I'm looking at damage calculation formulas. My general already had 110 armor from barded horse + item, so giving him an extra 30 armor from skill tree would only be about 10% damage reduction from non AP phys attacks while the alternative is to give him +30% hp which helps vs ALL damage. Even for the warrior priest who only has 30 armor, an additional 30 armor only equates to about 22% damage reduction. I feel like HP is the biggest stat in this game. Ungors who have about +15% extra hp, seem to beat out empire swordsmen despite only having two thirds of their attack and defence skills.

Apparently ward saves are additive to armor, so a demigryph with ward save buff will take almost no damage.
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>>150212261
It's pretty self-explanatory
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How many legendary item quests to beasties get and how cool are they(the quests battles)?
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>>150212696
skeleton memes ?
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>>150211851
>generic bray herd there just wreaking havoc on the Top Knotz and other Orc tribes

Implying they wouldn't just get invited into war against you.
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I thought devolve was a meme. I would have liteally lost the game if it weren't for Malagor spamming devolve and withering away the enemy troopes.
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>>150211861
Get to spell stabbin'
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Why would I ever choose Chosen with Great Weapons over Halberds?

The stats are basically identical, they are the same upkeep cost , but Haberds have anti-large capability and charge def vs large.

I dont see the Great Weapons having bonus vs infantry, so I don't see why Halberds would ever be the worse choice? Unless, does being anti-large inherently make them worse vs infantry?
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WHY THE FUCK ARE NEARLY ALL THE FUCKING BEASTMEN ACHIEVEMENTS BUGGED?!?
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>>150212776
I've only played Malagor's (1) quest and he gets two battles; both are quite easy with a decent army - the first is a bit gimmicky and the second is quite generic with a fairly medium tier army opposing you on an ok but bit boring map.
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>>150206426
>>150207209
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>>150213169
Aside from the slight difference in Melee attack and Weapon damage, I think Halberds also have a longer attack cooldown (hidden stats).
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>>150181190
>Croatians
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>>150213169
Weapons secretly have different attack speeds, halberds are the slowest and I think some great weapons units are slower too. Someone actually calculated that regular marauders deal more damage vs armor than great weapon marauders due to attack speeds. Anti-large is just bonus non armor piercing damage. I would use sheilded chaos units desu, their shields are really good as they block 50% of missiles (silver) instead of the regular 30% (bronze) and the melee defence is great.
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>>150212829
I don't know why you're taking this so seriously. I mean, it's just a funny picture that happens to have a skeleton on it, you don't need to classify it or categorize it as a 'meme' or anything.
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>>150213615

I'm going up against some Dwarves so I'm trying to plan before I try to crack this nut. I figure I need something armor piercing in my melee line and the shielded guys wont cut it
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>>150212776
Only done Malagor's first quest battle, but it's quite something. Pic is what you're up against (with spoiler for those that don't want to know). And yes, the reinforcements are more minotaurs.

Funnily enough, the army comp I'd ended up with on Malagor's stack from dumping all the stuff I didn't want out of Khazrak's army was almost perfect for this battle. Got me the "spend less than half and win" cheevo to, if you care about cheevos.
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>Ogre Kingdoms still not annouced
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>>150213540
but weapon power calculates in attack time already
or it implies so in text
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>>150208367
If you play dwarf campaign every time you hold with tier 3 defenses vs full stack revolt you get a heroic victory.
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>>150213747
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>Bored with the campaign
>Give multiplayer a go
>All I get is shit like this have have less fun than the campaign

I expected nothing and I'm still disappointed
The last guy was mostly all bray shamans and gorebulls and devolved my army apart
The the next guy playing beastmen went ALL GOHBULLS

I just want to have fun
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>>150214196
>ALL GOHBULLS
So 4 then?
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>>150214196
two gorbulls keeping up vigor and loaded up with potions is optimal
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>>150214338
What?
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>>150214505
Patch notes said you're limited to 4 heroes in an army not. Is that not the case in practice?
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Is there some mechanic that makes hero actions just fail repeatedly?

I've got a 70% chance to assault units in this army, and 11 turns in a row now I've had failure failure failure. I dont understand. I feel like there is some mechanic forcing a failure thats not represented in the number
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>>150206709
don't be an asshole, give them a worthy death
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>>150214789
If you want to savescum you have to go back an entire turn
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>>150214904

I'm not save scumming. It's legit 11 in game turns. I've been following this army around assault units over and over
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>>150214789
Are you just reloading the same turn? It uses the same seed each time.
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>Dark moon comes
>Unit replenishment option is only +10%
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>>150214664
>Maximum of 4 Heroes in multiplayer battles
That's a load of horseshit and most likely a broken restriction.
I went beastmen and took straight gorebulls against the guy in my lobby just now

Maybe it's an option I missed.
>>
Just finished Greenies on Legendary in 152 turns. Surprisingly, it went easier than Dwarf Hard (took me 200+ turns).
Never touching Legendary again because the public order management is squalor-tier - doesnt make it much harder, just extremely annoying.
>>
>Get nostalgic, decide to play some Medieval 2
>Click play
>"Please run as administrator"
>Okay, fine
>"Could not connect to update server"
What the fuck is this bullshit. I don't want it to update, I want it to fucking run the game, with the version currently installed.

Custom campaign mod seems to be cooperating at least, though it wasn't what I was planning on playing.
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>>150215171
Nope. Not even an option.
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>>150215171
Ranked or not?

I'd guess that the restriction is only for ranked matches
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When does time commanders start again???

Fucking Robot wars tonight too.
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>>150211851

Actually there is a generic herd down there, but they only have 1 half stack and don't start at war with the the Top Kuntz. But they pretty much raid all of the Orc tribes down there so I imagine they get BTFO quickly.
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>CA spent money developing a language for the beastmen instead of modeling more units

http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_Dev_Blog:_Speaking_In_Beast_Toungue
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>>150210920

If they added in Vlad he'd have to replace Manny as faction leader and that isn't happening. There's also text on some loading screens alluding to Konrad not being dead either but he's an even shittier choice for an LL.
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>>150215831

I would rather they feel unique and have all the little details that make them feel how they should, than have a Jabberslythe.

Plus we all know they will be adding them with wood elves, so that they can charge a premium price for another new faction.
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>>150215831
You know that the runes and pronunciation for the Dark Tongue already existed in WHFB?
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>>150216145
>Jabbers with Wood elves
>Harpies with dark elves

Trust me on this one
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>>150215831
>http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER_Dev_Blog:_Speaking_In_Beast_Toungue

>TWG spergs out constantly about minutia
>CA engages in world building
>fleshing out a faction to have just a little iota of fluffy uniqueness about them

BOO FUCK YOU CA WHERE IS MY SHITTY ILL FITTING, LATE ADDITION JABBER THAT I ONLY FOUND OUT AND GOT MAD ABOUT ON THE SAME DAY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO

SHILLS
JEWS
NORMIES
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>>150216271
Jabber will never happen, how many Charlemagne's do you expect this game to cost
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Is there anything Gyrocopters don't take forever to kill?
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>>150205309
With my moral, attack, and weapon strength buffed ungor herd supported by devolve spamming shaman, ungor are my main army.
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>protect a city with 2 armies
>vamps send one army to siege the city
>vamps send a second army to attack the army outside the city
>both the attacking army and the sieging army fight against me
>I only have one army for no fucking reason
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>>150213684
>>150212696
>>150211953
IS THAT SOME MOTHERFUCKIN DA SHARE ZONE?
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>>150216692
Might be because your other army is stuck in the city. You know, the one under siege?
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>>150216465
Themselves.
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>>150216857
ok but why the vampires can have their 2 armies as one of them was besieging my city?
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>>150216875
buff when?
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>>150216692
This is why I constantly save. My city was under seige so I sent a small force to attack and my massive army in the city didnt reinforce.
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>>150216692
just make a save every few turns just in case of bugs like that.
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>>150216857
How are they being besieged if the vamp army doing the besieging is fighting his other army in the field?
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>tfw bretonnia counter hard beastmen
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>>150216952
>>150217074

I did, I got my 2 armies

But once on the battlefield, my second army came from behind the ennemy line

I think I'm done with my empire campaign. I just wanted to fight against beastmen (turn 200 and I did it twice, against half-sack armies)
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>>150216692
>have two armies close together
>one is attacked, got to retreat
>retreating army goes on the exact opposite direction of my other army instead of running towards backup
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>>150217174
tis a good feel
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>empire and beastmen AIs both spamming that retarded beast magic damage spell that rapes half your army with one cast
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>>150217174
they really don't

git gud
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Karak Drak playable when?
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>>150217174
One word.
Minotaurs.
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>>150217174
I found out cavalry cucks them pretty hard when I was messing around with 6 units of empire knights. Knights of the realm are direct upgrades and yeomen mounted arches are kickass. Its too bad they only have trebuches for seige, a ballista or scorpion might be fun
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>zacharias the everliving lives in the forest of shadows in ostland
>wurrzag da great is a savage orc
>CA probably still won't give us the option of different starting areas and zacharias will mysteriously be down in sylvania instead
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>>150217315
Just get the 40 units army mod.
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>tfw melting the enemies 3 stacks of demi knights with Devolve
Who in their goddamn minds let this shit through balancing?
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>Play Empire
>Destroy the beastmen before I'd even united Reikland

Well that was disappointing, did they really need to make a beeline for me
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>>150217896
they just kept repeatedly razing grunburg for me and every time i went to find them they'd gone invisible
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>>150215831

I think the beast tongue got fleshed out in the Tome of Corruption from WHFRP 2ED, so it's not like they had to do that much work.
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>>150217704
One word.
Halberds.
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>cast devolve on a unit of empire spearmen
>they turn into niggers
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>>150217896
Funny thing is empire will do the same to you when you are playing beastmen
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>>150217873
>CA
>balancing
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>>150217174
Where's tzeentch? Or is this one of those the tau actually serve tzeentch because everyone is too retarded to put it together?
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>destroy Warriors of chaos
>all the dwarfs cancel my trades and alliances, some of them engage war against my human allies
>vampiric revolt in Averland
>chaotic revolt in Nordland
>Red-Horn tribe sacking Stirland
>Grimgor and Azagh, alongside full waaaghz, are crosing the black fire pass
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>>150218061
Halberd still can't stop minotaurs
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>>150217873
>Let's make a spell that's kinda like fate of bjuna, but on multiple targets in the area
>How about this, looks good? Only need to lower the damage now and we're done
>Nah, m8, don't bother, send in that shit. They're gonna buy it anyway
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>>150218241
this is why america keep isis around
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>>150218241
Man up cunt. The emperor fought to keep the orcs at bay in blackfire pass once. Do it again.
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>>150218347
how did the anti cavalry spell turn into generic damage spell that no one need to use?
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>>150218310
If you double layer spears or halberds it will stop them, a thick line of infantry has enough mass to stop them dead.

Plus they are anti large, and Minotaurs are very expensive. Arrows also shred through all of the Beastman roster aside from Bestigors, if you focus fire on the Minotaur you will drops them in seconds and since they are taller than your halberds or spears they become sitting ducks.

Knights of the realm beat all forms of centigors, and will clean up any gors with ease.
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>>150204491
/twg/ I need you guys to save muh dick here. I really don't want this campaign to die and it seems like a constant bug.
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They promised they are going to make end times much better with the next update.
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>>150218748
I've seen it said that this is caused by too many of your allies declaring war at once. Try reloading an earlier save and break a few friendships.
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Does anyone have a link with the spell descriptions of the new lores? I don't have access to the game right now.
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>>150218831
Interesting, got a link?

Only another month till next content update.
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>>150218310
Keep in mind Minotaurs cost nearly 3x more than hlaberdiers. A fair test would be demigryphs vs minotaurs.
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>>150218896
I'm allied to one dwarf faction, bretonnia and one of the empire factions. Can the game really not handle three factions declaring war?
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>>150219227
Or just spend the same money on the halberds, so three units vs one minotaur and I can guarantee halberds win
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POO POO
PEE PEE
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>>150219481
>tfw Devolve is just your shaman going full poopoopeepee pepe on the enemy
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>>150218743
Centigors with great weapons destroy knights of the realm. Just tested it. Routed 11 survivors with 36 still left.
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>Empire and beastmen magic
Beastmen have devolve (which I agree is fucking retarded), and empire and beastmen have that shitty weak version of devolve that does no damage.
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I'm going to do a Gelt campaign where I complete EVERY chapter side quest, and do my best to complete the random missions you get from the other counts. This is only on hard though. What is the best way to get Toddbringer to like you? Even when he is underdog he hates my guts. Tablecaland always loves me though.
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>>150219828
Try it as Bretonia, the AI doesn't always get a charge of when i tried i destroyed them with like 2 losses.

Also make sure they cost the same amount.
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How do I unlock Sarthorael the Everwatcher? I have won the Grand Campaign with beastmen, warriors of chaos and empire without unlocking him. Is there anyone who has unlocked him?
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>>150220131
meant for >>150217408
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>>150210592
No shit senpai?
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So are pikemen shit in Attila?
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>>150220683
Tanuki pikes are pretty good. Low tier gothpikes, not so much.
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>>150218748
Somebody else posted about having the same problem and someone suggested it might be from the Advisor fucking up. Maybe try disabling him and see if that does anything.
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>>150220967
I just tried setting him to minimal is there anyway to flatly turn him off? Even on minimal he still takes the camera and gets it fucking stuck.
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>>150220337
Yea I have, finished grand vain laugh as chaos. Can only use him in battles and multiplayer though.
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>>150219357
No idea, it has never happened to me. I just saw that in yesterday's thread iirc.
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>>150219828
This was from head on charge, centigors failed to get a proper charge they break almost instantly if they get hit without their charge bonus.

The AI wont comply.
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Can someone link me a mod that seriously reduces campaign AI use of agents in TWW? Holy fuck mid game its basically just nothing but trying to fend off agents over and over and over.
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>>150222191
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=690832068
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>>150222393

Thanks. Does anyone know if using mods breaks the ability to get achievements?
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>>150221897
I wish there was a way to control bother sides of a custom battle.
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>>150222487
cheev's work just fine and im running a shitload of non-cosmetic mods.
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>>150222487
They don't
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Do I actually WANT to awaken the tribes as Chaos?
Last I heared they end up being dicks and fighting eachother.
I just went straight into Kislev to sack and raze, will I regret it later?
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>>150222191
War is won in the shadows anon.
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>>150213169
Charge bonus.
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>>150222656
Military allies are always a liability. If you do awaken them you might as well attack them again to subjugate them.
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>>150222512
I dont see why you cant make them both player controlled.
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>>150222191

Continuing on the subject of mods, are there any that make Sarthorael unlockable in campaign as a lord? Theres like 2 or 3 on the Workshop but they all also modify Sarth's stats to make up super powerful, which isnt something I want. I just want to have him as a lord
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flying lordheroes in mp make me angry
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>>150223194
Just use spirit leech or shims burning cheese.
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>>150222656
Legit doesn't matter. I've done my share of Chaos campaigns and raging around Norsca or ignore them and go straight for Kislev either ends up with you making peace with them or just having an ally that's totally useless
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>want to finish the campaign already
>Archaon keeps pulling deathstacks out of his ass
Even in the end this campaign manages to be a fucking slog.
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>>150223949
>slog
you don't know the meaning of slog until you have to cleanse the badlands of stunties as vampires

judging by army composition, that should be part of the last Chaos wave
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>>150219009
http://www.moddb.com/mods/call-of-warhammer-beginning-of-the-end-times
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>Confederating as the Beastman
What's the point these stacks are shit
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>>150215831
Actually giving a shot at translating those phrases.

>“Akash sur akash tarrh”
Blood fed blood god

“Shugu guar pharchaa”
Get to "khophoo"?? Could do with some help on this one.

>“Aruiby”
Oink
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>hire amber wizard to test him out
>never get him into a fight because enemy armies avoid his army like a fucking skaven dildo

Is he any good? The manticore spell looks interesting but fuck i hate that you have to keep 1 slot empty in a army to use it.
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>>150224407

Worst is clearing orcs from badlands and norsca from the north simultaneously as Chaos.
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>>150224547
>i hate that you have to keep 1 slot empty in a army to use it.
isn't the limit 40 units? (2 stacks)
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>>150224467
You get a -20% bonus to upkeep for five turns. At least in the mini campaign, not sure about the grand campaign.
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Why the hell do brayherds just attack whatever the fuck they want. just had one spawn then it immediately attacked a a settlement with a full stack on its first turn out and got itself killed.
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>>150225416

They... don't? They only attack something if you give them the target. Otherwise they just follow you around. They will attack nearby armies that come in range but they wont go after settlements. You fucked up
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>>150225416
>beastmen
>having sense or logic
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Do you like to merge/disband hurt units and just buy new ones, or do you like to sit and wait out the replenishment?
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>>150225416
They're trying to prove themselves.
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>>150225717
I guess he attacked the lone lord they had next to them and not the settlement then then. I didn't even give the damn thing a command because i wanted it to follow me. still retarded since it fucked itself up doing that.
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is there a mod that adds more beastmen factions for the GC yet? Beastmen should be a constant threat, not some nuisance that shows up every once in a while, just to get smashed in 3 turns

they haven't had an impact on any of my campaigns
>>
>wake up
>no mannfred white walker reskin
TWtards?
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>>150224407
At least Vampires are fun to play.
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>>150226637
>muh IPee
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>>150226637

you could make one for yourself and play with it. but GW are jews to the max, so nobody would be allowed to release a mod like that
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Tfw playing the most fun campaign you've ever had
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Golden nigga why
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>>150184137
post on /gif/ or /wsg/ and crosslink it here.
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>>150227554
Best metals in the north
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>>150213747
>>150214114
>Ogre """""Kingdoms""""""

It's just a few tribes full of fat people with an even fatter guy who extorts food out of them.
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Why does he have a muslim beard?
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>>150214114
What's that little thing on his shoulder?

and >>150228104
don't fuck with ogres they destroyed the giant kingdom and inbreded them
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>>150213747
>>150214114
What's the difference between orcs and ogres anyway?
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>have a beard
>playing dorf
>hear 'kill everything with out a beard'

would i be welcome in dwarven society?
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Hey TWG, I had surgery on the 28th and have been doped up too much to really play since. Are beastmen worth it? Are amber wizards any good?
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>>150228575
Are you a manlet?
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>>150228575
>hear 'kill everything with out a beard'

Humans have beards
Necromancer VCs have beards
Ogres have beards
Beastmen... well
Chaos tribes have beards

Guess the dwarfs have some exceptions
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>>150227360
what faction?
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>>150228651

yea Beastmen are very fun to play if you like the horde style. They are hit and run. You raid and raze through a land, then hide if someone comes at you, and keep that up until you pop a Brayherd (waaagh basically) and then just shred through everything
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>>150228104
King Greasus the First of his name, Archi-Tyran of the Mountain of Mourns, protector of the Ivory Road and Most handsome ogre would have a speak with you
>>
Hwudhu guwu hwuighu harzub ogu?
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>>150228238
because islam is objectively evil
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>>150228846
>most handsome ogre
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>>150228557
Ogres are larger and dumber than orcs. And frankly way easier to have as your neighbour since they will accept some gold to keep of your turf and not immediatly break the agreement.
You can even hire some as mercenaries. Which is what I think Ogres place in TWW will be, strictly mercenaries and maybe playable in multi and battles.
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>>150228897
Well that does seem like a reasonable request. Why not?

You may rape me, shit on me, then kill me.
>>
Does the Empire AI usually get dicked over on the Campaign map, or have I just had an odd string of games so far?
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>>150228935
>trying to imply that Vampires are evil
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Proper faction DLC when?
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>>150229057
>ogres dumber than orcs

They can craft black powder weapons and tame a lot of wild beasts
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Kislev when?
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>>150228703
no i am above average in height and weight :^)

I like steampunk and explosions though
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>>150229149
They usually do ok in my games.

In the 5 games i have done the Orcs always beat Dwarfs. Empire tend to confederate a few times and have a medium strength ranking, but they have never been taken out.
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>>150229149
my excperience are
When you play as
Chaos/Beastmen - curbstomping
Orcs - roughly 50/50 of either curbstomping or mediocre/shit
Dwarves - 80% shit
VC - dunno, only played once
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>>150228273
A gnoblar
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Gnoblar

Goblin-like dudes who follow Ogres around for protection
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>>150229241
>They can craft black powder weapons and tame a lot of wild beasts
looted dwarven cannons and slave not! goblins
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>>150229107
Ui tuff quared nakuichekkui huizzh rak..
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>>150229662
>what are ogre pistols?
>what are stonehorns?
>what are mournfangs?
>>
After beating my Greenskin campaign I got a message "something-something(looked like Lord of Change) is now available in single and multiplayer". I thought I'd be able to recruit him as a Lord in my chaos campaign but I guess I cant.
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>>150188952
If there aren't enough models left to form a unit - they won't. For instance 2 fleeing peasant bowmen will never reform into a unit.
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>>150229870
>giants trees are a thing

I think wood elves and lizardmen battlefields are going to be great

>giant jungle trees and long grasses with dinosaurs pyramids in the background
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How many more horde playstyle faction do we have left?

I enjoy the horde playstyle but i hope the roster does not become bloated with them, so far they take up a third of the roster and the AI can not competently use them.
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>>150229290
>Posts a Knight of Panther, asks for Kislev
I want both
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>>150230169
They are easy to make for CA, so you will only get horde factions now

Get used to it
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>>150230169
Ogres most likely, and Demons are another likely candidate
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>>150230169
maybe Ogre kingdoms, but the rest of the faction have settlements
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>Orcs raid Reikland until a rebellion happens
>This is their fucking army
>It's turn 25

What the fuck is this?
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>>150230676
Franz, meet Hanz.
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>>150230268
>Husaria
>Knights Panther

Knights Panther wear full plate harnesses. That is clearly a Winged Lancer.
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>>150230396
>>150230545
Wouldn't wood elves be a horde too?
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>>150230794
Current speculation is that they will be a faction that has a corruption like ability, but with trees.
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>>150230676
Rebels constantly pull out high-tier units out of their asses. Wait till they start recruiting steam tanks.
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>>150213747
Only after Chaos Dwarfs.

Mountains of Mourn are on the other side of The Dark Lands, after all.
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>>150230794
Forgot about the tree huggers, another horde for you
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>>150230794
>>150231196

Wood Elves are not a Horde
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>>150231275
Wild Hunt
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>>150231446
>Wild Hunt
>not space elves
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Do the Beastmen make the Empire campaign harder or easier?
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>>150231275
Well, I can't see them taking any settlement outside Athel Loren, and god save us if we have to go back to Athel Loren every time you need to replenish and recruit
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>>150185062

The reason Chaos only costs 8 is because Chaos was always going to be in the game in some form as a non-playable faction in the style of Bretonnia, the extra funding they got from making it pre-order DLC is what allowed them to finish it off and make it a full race.

Essentially you're only paying for a half a race when you buy the Chaos DLC, the half they weren't always going to make.

If Chaos hadn't been an this kind of essential "Would be there anyway" faction then it would have been $15 like every future race DLC (that doesn't have a campaign) is going to be.
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>>150231787
They'll probably crate some NEW(tm) FACTION TYPE

You'll have a super capital in the forest. You can build up the capital to unlock recruitment and bonuses for your troops, and then your armies can enter HIDDEN IN TREES stance and you can recruit anywhere and replenish.

But it's not a horde because you have a city with a few buildings.
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I haven't touched Warhams in awhile, is the Beastmen pack worth 19 bucks? From what I've read it looks like orcs, overpowered orcs with a hiding stance. I like total war's mini campaigns but steam reviews seem to be really shitting on this DLC and it kind of worries me
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>>150232178
They are pretty good but a bit overpriced thats why people are bitchy on the reviews
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>>150232178
faction is very fun to play, but minicampaign itself is shit and boring
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>>150232178
The problem is price.

The faction is fun to play, the minicampaign is alright, but $19 is ridiculous for one faction.
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>>150231787
Like in R1/M2? God pls no.
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>>150232178
Everyone says it is good, but they complain about the price. If you don't want to spend 20, wait for a sale.
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>>150232316
Damn, that sucks to hear, I liked Caesar in Gaul and Hannibal.

>>150232391
I felt the same, this is starting to become the tabletop hobby, still way cheaper, but damn, I paid 44 bucks for only 5 races.
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>>150232178
https://www.kinguin.net/category/28515/total-war-warhammer-call-of-the-beastmen-dlc-steam-cd-key/
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>>150232396
you do realize you could have more than one city in those games, right?
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>>150231727
Depends on your skill level and difficulty, I guess. In theory they should make the game more challenging since it's another faction on the map that's always hostile towards you.
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>>150232178
Overpriced for what it is, the mini campaign is meh at best, and you will only bother with it once for the unlockable character

The beastie bois are fun, but Devolve and minotaurs are OP
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>>150231727
They're another thing that may come out of the woods to rape you to death. With other humans nearby, though, they'll probably get fucked up before reaching you.
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>>150232178
Its really good and you will get your moneys worth in content.

It is expensive as far as DLC goes, but few DLC will give you over 30 hours of content.

So its down to whether you view it as expensive for the amount of entertainment it offers.
>>
>confederate middeland for dat Boris
>try check out his stats
>LOL CRASH

Do I have to play the mini campaign to unlock him so that i can get him in GC or is he not meant to be gotten in the GC at all?
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>>150232316
Well it's not that bad. I can totally see the reason why they went with a more focused campaign to go along with the beastmen because the beastmen are just most known for raiding the shit out of empire lands, and of course the fued between khazrak and toddbringer.

Before the beastmen dlc people were fucking wanking themselves to death over the thought of a Toddbringer vs Kazrak campaign.

Personally I played the campaign for over a whopping 400 turns as I was just having so much fun ignoring all the campaign objectives and just went about fighting and raiding aimlessly.

Couldn't get enough of that sneaky campaign map play, can't wait to fire up the GC as beastmen.
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>>150232543
>>150232178
wrong link, meant this one:
http://www.gamesdeal.com/total-war-warhammer-call-of-the-beastmen-dlc.html?___store=english&a_aid=pccdkeys
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>>150232642
>>150232727
well I meant they might fuck up the Brettonians instead. On legendary the fucking bretonnians always declare war- Now maybe they'll be busy
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>>150232752
>Do I have to play the mini campaign to unlock him
Yes, and you have to complete it, not just play it.
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>>150232552
You do realize cities and castles had access to different kinds of units and you couldn't immediately recruit elite units everywhere you liked so you had to go back to core settlements for most of the campaign anyway, right?
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>>150232789
thanks, couldnt access kinguin. I guess its a tiny bit cheaper than 19 bucks, and I think I will get it. But I'm still not happy that this game is turning into the Sims.
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>>150230676
>letting rebellions happen ever
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>>150233243
>this game is turning into the Sims.
what?
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>>150233472
Paying 20 bucks a pack for 10-16 DLC packs
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How is Chaos supposed to replen? They have no allies with territory really, unless they awaken but even then they are shit and only way up north... so they can only replen while in encampment mode... in which case they are not generating raiding income and even at max replen skills you can look at 5-7 turns after a big battle to full heal your units... and your heroes may never full heal. I've got a sorcerer and a melee guy who are looking at 11/12 units to full heal
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>>150233472
Oh never mind I see, the DLC policy.
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>>150211861
>Louen used to be a rightful and just King
>Child support payments to Mallobaude fucked him up.

JUST
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Thank fuck for Artillery ships

Wouldn't have held the settlement without them
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>>150218037
Nope, it didn't.
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How do I get good at combat in this game? I Keep sucking at it.
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>>150233941
What race do you use the most?
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>>150232825
Eventually they'll come to fuck you up, as well, since they also start out in the north. They also spawn as roaming hordes out of nowhere, later on in the game.
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>>150234061
Probably Empire and Dwarfs. Been trying beastmen as well since I like them, but I suck fucking ass as horde armies.
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FIRE
RELOAD
FIRE
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Should I rush level 5 horde or focus more on units as Beastmen?
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>>150234112
>They also spawn as roaming hordes out of nowhere, later on in the game.
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>>150234798


Fill your army with ungor. Cheap as fuck and doesnt need any buildings, get the min 17 units so you can spawn Brayherds, then work on growth from there.
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>>150233595
They aren't, you constantly disband and recruit. It's a pain to play but doable, dragon ogres are OP.
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>>150234185
Give me an example of shit that's not working out for you as beastmen, what's your army composition etc?
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>>150235384
I've been usually running Khazrak, a Gorebull, some normal Gors (like 3-4) and a couple of Shield Gor's since ranged fucking sucks. A unit or two of raiders until I can get Cygors (if I last that long), and then the rest are the unit of minotaurs you get, centigors you get, and usually Ungors with vanguard (another unit or raiders or just the vanguarding ungors) to fill up the rest of the slots until I can buy 2-3 more units of minotaurs and eventually Cygors. As I lose Ungor units I start replacing Gor units, but for the most art Cavalry fucks me up as does constant attrition and no easy way to repleneish because when i'm not raiding and razing i'm losing money.
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>>150235649

dont get cygors. Waste of money.

They are nice, but you are better off just getting a Bray shaman who can summon you a cygor and still do other things (devolve).
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>>150234749
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>>150235649
should be getting centigors and minotaurs rather than cygors
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>>150235649
Get rid of all your ungor shit, replace them with gors/shielded gors. Doesn't even matter if you have no ranged units, remember gors have vanguard deployment so if you're ever really in a bad spot against a good ranged army, just deploy all your vanguard stuff as close as you can, tie them up until the rest of your army gets there. It's good to take a centigor unit or two so you have some cav to back up your vanguard gors.

The most important tip I have for you though is this; get minotaurs asap. Lots of them.
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>>150236067
That movie is so good
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>>150237238
Are bestigors worth it or just normal gors?
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>>150237238

> using gors as meat fodder vanguard

uh, no. Use ungors for that, they are cheaper and with proper Lord buffs can be very tough units. Plus the Shielded Gor's dont have Vanguard, however the shielded ungors do. That way you can deflect missile while you are moving in to distract. Plus they have Stalk which means they wont be seen until up close, whereas the Gor you have to forest hop and hope you can get up there

>>150237432
Bestigors are great because they are Armored and Armour-piercing. You dont want a ton of them, but 2-3 units is a solid backbone that you can use to smash armored forces. Plus since they are armored they are super tough
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>>150237432
Bestigors are so fucking worth it. I basically use them as my warchief's personal bodyguards or in sieges like this so I know I'm gonna have no fucking problems on the walls.
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Did they lower the amount of money you get from sacking settlements as chaos in a past update? i remember when i first played them i was getting 10000 or more in towns and now im rarely getting above 5000. anyone else notice this?
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>>150237620
Well not meat fodder per se but just a tricky distraction. Split them up, make them run at the enemy army from multiple angles with your centigors supporting them coming in from another angle.

Just keep boxed in and skirmish with them until the bulk of your army gets there so you can bring it all in together.
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When playing with Grimgor, I know I should be leveling him as a straight melee fighter, but what should I be getting first?

Defensive things like health? Weapon skill? Damage?

It's a bit unclear which is better.
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>>150238110
Are you getting 5k from tier 3 settlements? I haven't played Chaos in this patch, but I too remember getting 10k-11k or so from most tier 3 settlements. If you're only getting 5k then they have definitely nerfed it.
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>>150238110
It may be so low depending if you are still early in the game.
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>>150238184
Things can't kill Grimgor if Grimgor kills them.
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>>150238110

Maybe you're just getting better and rushing hard? Gotta give them time to grow nice and juicy before sacking. I was finding capital cities that I was pulling 20-30k from just today
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>>150238184
Don't get melee defense or charge. Get health and ws instead. Melee attack is fine, but generally everything you hit will get wounded, anyway, so it's not terribly useful.
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THORAKITAI
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>>150238682
>>150238734
Alright, thanks guys.
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>>150237861
Thanks. How should I replenish though? Beastmen are so fucking slow on the replenish side, it's kind of torturous outside of those 50% increased or full regen full moons.
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>>150238994
Merge units and hire more
Go full ham during the gen moons
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>>150238994
Merge units and recruit new ones.
You should only ever hold onto a unit if it's level 7+ imo.
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>>150238994

Pay close attention to the moons and plan around replenish on the moon cycle
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>>150233675
Damn Louen is looking rough...

As if getting upstaged by Giles himself during the End Times isn't enough.
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>>150241321

>End Times

AKA GW letting us know how much antipathy they have for anything that wasn't Chaos.
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>>150233675
>>150211861
>>150241321
>Out of all the Kings and rulers of the old world, Louen was probably the mightiest warrior, capable of killing a Great Unclean One simply with his Holy blood and slaughtering enemies in their droves, older than any other human ruler, his experience in combat and politics was unquestionable. Leoncoeur was one of the most powerful Grail Knights in the old world, faster and stronger than any mortal warrior and protected from powerful magics. He also possessed an ability that only the greatest Grail Knights were gifted, he could regenerate his wounds, the blood shining with a holy light before eventually disappearing completely. His power increased tenfold when he died during the End Times. Becoming a minor god in Lileath's plan for a New World.

Quick reminder that Louen is 100x more qualified to lead humanity against Chaos that KF is.
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WOOD ELVES WHEN?
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>>150241979
mañana
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NAKED WARRIORS
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How do I see what's affecting my public order? I have -8 to all of my land because of 'Events' but I don't know what event it is
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>>150241979
I morgen
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>>150242218
On the top bar in campaign. Should be some little circles that show what current events are happening.
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That's an extraordinarii K:D ratio
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>>150241979

Probably around September/October
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Someone probably knows this.

Why isn't there mini campaigns designed around pvp? Like pick a province and blow it up in size like they did for the beast men campaign but make 2 playable races on it. Then you could do 1 v 1 pvp versus campaigns. Don't even need special quests or anything, just so you could do the crazy shot from the campaign against each other.

And there are even enough provinces that have 2 race mixes you could have any kind of match up you like.
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What's the best way to make peace with someone?
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Cannons are for _____
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>>150243596

Am I the only one whos actually hyped for more DLC? I mean yea, sure, I'd love to not pay for it to get each race, but realistically I'll probably continue to buy into each race pack as they come out because I really love Warhammer Fantasy. This is great and I feel like a pariah for not really caring about the price of the DLC. If it was $30 or 60, sure, but I dunno. I just can't find myself getting up in arms about it like the steam reviews. Every steam review is "Wow this is really good and fun but [MIDDLE FINGER ASCII] for making me pay for it!"
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>>150241979
Nice mega armor or state troopers fag
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>>150243782

Take a look at the little face showing the relation. See what you are doing that makes them mad, and then do the opposite of that.

Also money bux
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>>150244116
What happened here?
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>>150244295
Had that army perched up on a hill perpendicular to Thorgrims while I just threw shitty miners into them to gum them up.

They got C A N N O N E D
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>>150208237

keked
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>fight outnumbered 3 to 1
>tide finally starts to turn
>enemy lord killed
>they start to break
>WARHAMMER.EXE HAS STOPPED WORKING
I'm too mad to even start up again. That battle took almost 20 minutes.
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>>150244136
I'm right there with ya. Yeah its expensive but I've already gotten a weeks evenings worth of enjoyment out of it. And a weekend so that's good value to me.

Plus things like tomb kings, ogres, high elves, dark elves, skaven, and so on are just going to make grand campaign so good
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>>150244136
You're not. I'm quite excited too. I mean I do wish it was a little cheaper but I don't mind the cost and I really, really want to see the other races. I want a massive campaign map with various armies throwing down hard.
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>>150244136

Nah I basically feel the same way, I didn't hesitate for a second to pre-purchase the Beastmen DLC. And I say this as someone who avoided 75% of the DLC put out for Rome 2 and Attila even on discount.

I just like the setting and if CA is going to ask for $10-$20 every few months to add in more races, LL, campaigns, etc than I'm all for it. In the grand scheme of things it's a nominal sum when taken in aggregate of the rest of my expenditures.

No one complains about spending $20+ every week or so on putting gas into their car, or blowing $10 on cigarettes. But everyone gets outraged over content for video games.

I love it, it keeps the game interesting and fresh and I hope CA can bring us more content ASAP.
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>>150246395
>>150246043
>>150246584
Same, if anything I feel like the $20 asking tag is too cheap. I would gladly pay at least $40 to see these races come to life.
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>>150246682
If we had proof a higher price tag would either get us more content or faster content I'd be down for that.

But otherwise 30 really is at the upper end of acceptability for me.

Even if it is niche, gouging is still gouging.
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>>150245641
That happened to me a few days ago except I had won the battle already and was watching my men run down fleeing troops.

I needed a break from TW for like 2 days after that.
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give me one good reason why gorebull warchief's aren't a thing
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Going to play M2 for the first time. Any mods I should have?
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>>150247036
They're too retarded to lead.
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>>150247036
having two flavors of fighty lords is redundant and a waste of resources on CA's part. The only faction with two different lords are the ones with a magical and fighty lord.
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>>150244284
>military action against the empire
>war against the empire
Can't give them money sadly, hope they don't do something worth writing in the book
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>>150187348
>Then you look at Chaos and Beastmen which require entirely new

>models
check
>skeletons
nope
>animations
not really, but okay let's see where you're going with this
>which means modelling
that's not how animating works
>rigging
you're half right, the only real rigging that would need to be done would be on the centaurs though
>hand animating especially on the non humanoids
that's a given, hand animations are also a hell of a lot less expensive btw
>that they cant do any kind of mocap
hahahaha no you can mocap anything you fucking retard
>>
Witcher vamps> Warhammer vamps. They make so much more sense when they can't spread by bite.
>>
What's the cutoff for routing units not being dissolved after a battle? 10?
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>>150186049
I do like them though.
The last battle in my empire campaign was like something you'd see in a movie. Basically the last enemy I had in the campaign was Von Carstein holed up in his castle, the fight was a full stack of his units plus the garrison defending against my 3 armies of Franz, Gelt, and a Generic general.
Rocket batteries and mortars were unloading into the city as all my siege engines and troops stormed the wall, Gelt and my bright wizard were popping off spells left and right, and Franz was fighting a terrorgheist (iirc) in mid air over top of the walls while the boys were fighting

It was crazy stuff

Usually though I just like defending. Sometimes I'll set up a 40 v whatever battle where I just put like 34 hand gunners on the walls with a couple halberdiers and mortar batteries in support
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>>150248083
???
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>>150247036
Those don't exist.

A doombull on the other hand, well that'd cost at least 28 Charlemagne's.
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>>150248298
Oh I'm retarded. That's neat. Like it when fantasy lore has reason for vamps not spreading like crazy.
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Should I take Vampire land as the Empire? Seems like it's not even worth it with all the corruption
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>>150248502
The corruption's bad, but not too bad. You can just deploy some empire captains or whatever to increase order and get rid of the corruption over time, and getting access to the gold and wine is pretty nice.
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>>150248502
Seeing as it's a campaign objective yes. It's not that difficult to capture either, there's general abilities that reduce corruption and it dissipates pretty quickly on its own. Your going to have to garrison provinces for a while though. Much harder to spread corruption as vamps.>>150248502
>>150248502
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>>150248502
You have to iirc, that's one of the campaign objectives.
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>>150248502
Remove vamp. Crush them, subjugate the towns, garrison until happy plebs, unify the empire. Crush chaos, bro up with dwarfs.
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>>150245641
That happens to me a lot, especially when there's tons of reinforcing armies. I think that fucks the AI to the point the game crashes.
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>>150248502
Occupy with a big army, build church of Sigmar, deploy priests or agents with "remove corruption" skills.
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>>150249009
They should of added kill greenskins as a empire objective. Beat the long campaign but I'm looking at all the orcs on the map thinking if I really won.
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eheheh
EHEHEHEHE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>150247056
Play vanilla to appreciate it when you mod.
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>>150244136
I'm actually really hyped because unlike things like previous Total War games so far they're done a good job making each faction feel different. The price is a little too much but i don't mind because I know I'm going to be playing each race at least once. ultimately I hope the paid content gives CA enough of a push to keep pumping out free content or more packs.

Honestly I just want them to stuff as much as they can into these three games. If Warhammer fantasy is going to go out let it go out with one last great game that captures as much of the setting as it can.
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Has there been any confirmation on the rumor that the three Warhammer games will link up into one mega-campaign?

The idea of splitting all the factions up fucking kills all my hype.
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>>150249986
Literally the devs from when the game was announced, it was never a rumor.
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>>150244136
$20 for a new race is just a bit steep to me, I mean that's 1/3rd of a fully priced game.
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>>150188632
Is it really that old and obscure?
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>>150249986
Not a rumor it's the overall plan in making these games. Apparently the second expansion should be adding back in naval combat but that could be subject to change.

I think there's a map that's been floating around from the data mining that shows off what they might be aiming for.
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>New Empire VH
>Take Reikland fast, Wissenland wants to confederate early so why not
>Orks all eliminated, Mannfred declares war and gets hit shit slapped so hard he begs for peace
>Dwarfs getting their ass kicked, send Franz down to relieve Barak Varr of a 3 stack siege, the old alliance is renewed in a massive battle.
>Suddenly 1 turn later
>My trusty Nordland allies lose their capital city to fucking rebels who are becoming crazy powerful
>Both northern dwarf territories declare war on me
>Beastmen sprint through Brettoria and attack Marienburg.
>Lose 2 cities and my 2nd army to 4 dwarf stacks and Franz is still with my main army in Greenskin land. Reikland burns while Franz is on vacation.

Fuck the dawi. I never should have helped them.
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>>150249986
As far as I know it's not a rumor, just the plan.

Each expansion will add to the map and a number of factions.

What I am wondering is what they're going to do for the win conditions for the factions. Once they add in all these different factions, is Empire still going to win by just fucking around with some vampire counts then killing chaos? What about the KANGZ and Ogres and Elves?
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>Start beastmen VH campaign as the crowfather
>By the time I'm fully done in the badlands and border princes chaos has already reduced the north to rubble.

I should just duke it out with them and be the last man standing.
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>>150251410
>play any faction but Empire
>Chaos has already reduced the world to rubble
It's so fucking boring. I wish they'd nerf it to shit or just remove it completely.
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>>150251610
>Play any Total War game
>Defeat your early game opponent
>World is full of minor factions doing fuck all and you walk over them one by one

I wish they'd come up with a way to fix this. Because in every total war game there is rarely ever other major powers to fight, it's always bullshit.
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>>150253214
>he's fast!
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>just another day in Norsca
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>>150249459
Yeah but I was just wondering since there seems to be a shitload of them.
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>17.29 for Beastmen

I'm tempted. It's still high but I really want it. I also know it's never going to go below $8 and probably won't be on sale for 4+ months.
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>>150253876
>>150253876
new
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>>150253876
>>150253876
new
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>>150252094
I kind of miss rebel factions for this reason, but at least you got to fight an early game opponent

When I played Rome 2 I NEVER got to fight Rome or Carthage because they always either got slaughtered by nearby factions immediately or fell to civil revolts
Athens and sparta fell to Epirus which itself was irrelevant all game because it was constantly fighting rebels

Not like it mattered because they never graduated beyond fucking tier 1 skirmishers anyways
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